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| Himtuna | hi | 09:50 |
| Himtuna | I am looking for a solution were all lab computers are connected to one server. | 09:51 |
| Himtuna | the data is stored on server but all processing is done on client machine | 09:51 |
| Himtuna | ( as college will not spend money on new server) | 09:51 |
| Himtuna | anybody here? | 09:52 |
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| mhall1191 | nubae|work: you around today? | 16:14 |
| ace_suares1 | LaserJock: where do i report bugs to the installer/dvd ? | 18:06 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | hi baby | 18:36 |
| Baby | hi :) | 18:37 |
| ace_suares1 | hi all | 18:37 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | hiya ace_suares1 | 18:37 |
| ace_suares1 | Ahmuck-Sr: did you test the dvd ? | 18:37 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | nope | 18:38 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | i kinda like stable systems :) | 18:38 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | what's on the dvd ? karamic? | 18:38 |
| ace_suares1 | yeah the edubuntu version of karmic but i run it in a virtualbox just for testing and helping them | 18:41 |
| ace_suares1 | gotta go now sorry! | 18:41 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | will do then | 18:42 |
| * Ahmuck-Sr listening to good ol bluegrass :) | 18:42 | |
| Ahmuck-Sr | link to dvd ? | 18:43 |
| mhall1191 | http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/ | 18:56 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | no torrent ? | 19:10 |
| mhall1191 | not that many people would be seeding anyway | 19:16 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | agreed | 19:28 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: well, depends on the bug. what happened? | 19:50 |
| LaserJock | we will *really* need testers between now and the 22nd (Karmic Beta release) | 19:52 |
| LaserJock | we've missed out on Alphas 1-5 | 19:52 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | 22nd of Sept ? | 20:13 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | Release is as Keramic Beta | 20:14 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | anywho | 20:14 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | it as | 20:14 |
| ace_suares1 | LaserJock: still there ? | 20:28 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: yep | 20:29 |
| ace_suares1 | pkay so let me ask you something, I tested the live cd and installed it too in a virtualbox. But there is NO clu as that this is edubuntu. | 20:29 |
| LaserJock | Ahmuck-Sr: 22nd is when the Ubuntu Beta will be released | 20:29 |
| ace_suares1 | It has the ubuntu logo and there is no spceial edubuntu content | 20:29 |
| ace_suares1 | was this intentional? | 20:29 |
| LaserJock | well, sorta | 20:29 |
| LaserJock | I haven't done much yet, other than create our own seed | 20:30 |
| ace_suares1 | okay i understand | 20:30 |
| ace_suares1 | so a lot has to be done then ;-) | 20:30 |
| * LaserJock notes that he has been saying that for months :-) | 20:30 | |
| ace_suares1 | can you send a mail to edubuntu-users when you re build the dvd ? | 20:30 |
| ace_suares1 | i am using zsync now and want to try and keep up to dat. But a full downlaid takes 12 hrs with my speed. | 20:31 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: the DVD is rebuilt daily automatically | 20:38 |
| ace_suares1 | yeah well, if nothing edubuntu specific changed, then why test it? | 20:38 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: the size of download is one reason why we didn't want to go to DVD, it makes it much harder to do trivial testing | 20:38 |
| LaserJock | well, I intend to make edubuntu-specific changes | 20:39 |
| ace_suares1 | yeah well if you do, can you send a mail? I think you want the logo on the splash screen at least, and also the menu filled with all the edu apps? | 20:39 |
| LaserJock | well, the logo will probably take the longest | 20:40 |
| LaserJock | but we need to decide what apps should go in there, etc. | 20:40 |
| LaserJock | right now I believe the edubuntu apps are in, just not in the Live part | 20:40 |
| ace_suares1 | hm i wouldnt wait for anyone to decide ;-( | 20:40 |
| LaserJock | well, I know | 20:41 |
| ace_suares1 | well i downloaded yesterday and the menu didn't even have an education entry | 20:41 |
| LaserJock | right | 20:41 |
| LaserJock | the .debs are on there though | 20:41 |
| LaserJock | just not installed into the live session, I need to figure out how that works | 20:41 |
| ace_suares1 | yeah well I assume you want people that download a edbunut dvd not to have to manually install them ???? | 20:41 |
| ace_suares1 | oh and they ar enot installe dinto the install version too 9i installed FROm the live cd, not from the bootup menu!) | 20:42 |
| LaserJock | well, no, that's why I said I need to figure out how to get them into the Live session | 20:45 |
| LaserJock | there's a fair amount of work yet to do, and not a lot of time as this was *supposed* to all be done by August 27th | 20:46 |
| ace_suares1 | LaserJock: i don't understand. Okay, they are not IN the live CD; but if you click the INSTALL button on the desktop, then that is the same as installing from the boot menu, or not? | 20:46 |
| LaserJock | no, no | 20:46 |
| LaserJock | well | 20:46 |
| ace_suares1 | hmm so When I install from the boot menu, then they will be in the menu? Or also not ? | 20:46 |
| LaserJock | I don't think so right now | 20:47 |
| LaserJock | the way the DVD works is it has the typical Live CD part + tons of .debs | 20:47 |
| LaserJock | that can be installed later, for people without a lot of bandwidth | 20:47 |
| ace_suares1 | ok got you, that's the whole Idea of the dvd isn't it. | 20:48 |
| LaserJock | so for the Ubuntu DVD it's basically Ubuntu Desktop CD + most .debs in Main | 20:48 |
| LaserJock | well, we're a bit different | 20:48 |
| LaserJock | in that we don't have a Live CD | 20:48 |
| LaserJock | and our contents is quite a bit larger than Ubuntu's | 20:48 |
| ace_suares1 | ah really didn't know that | 20:49 |
| LaserJock | so the split between what goes on the Live part of the DVD and what will just be .debs is something that needs to be figured out | 20:49 |
| ace_suares1 | okay well i propose to at least fill the education menu. Can't you with tasksel automatically install the edubuntu meta packages? | 20:50 |
| LaserJock | well | 20:50 |
| LaserJock | if I was using tasksel yeah :-) | 20:50 |
| ace_suares1 | so how can i help | 20:52 |
| LaserJock | mainly in testing I think right now | 20:52 |
| LaserJock | tweaking the seeds takes just a couple minutes for me to do | 20:53 |
| ace_suares1 | what's there to test? What can I test? Procedure? | 20:53 |
| LaserJock | but I often don't have much time to test the result | 20:53 |
| LaserJock | well, you already did a test for me | 20:53 |
| LaserJock | :-) | 20:53 |
| LaserJock | you said it was no different | 20:53 |
| LaserJock | so now I'm going back to the seeds to see if I can get the Education menu populated a bit more :-) | 20:53 |
| ace_suares1 | yeah so thank me 1000x :-) | 20:53 |
| ace_suares1 | okay that would be great! so please send a mail on the list when you done it so i know on which days i have to do the zsync dance whihc is time consuming! | 20:54 |
| LaserJock | ok, that sounds reasonable | 20:54 |
| ace_suares1 | i am extremely reasonable :-) | 20:54 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: btw, how long have you been working on the wiki? | 21:00 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: woah, why are you renaming the meeting logs? | 21:05 |
| ace_suares1 | hi LaserJock | 21:17 |
| ace_suares1 | stil there i gotta go for an hour | 21:17 |
| ace_suares1 | can talk to you later about the wiki | 21:17 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: yeah, we can talk later | 21:20 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | oooh, look that computer has regular internet | 22:01 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | which one | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | that one, with the big blue e | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | oh | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | um, why can't i hear sound on this one | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | well, how bout this one, it's the server | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | ok | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | ... | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | my text is to small | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | where | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | over here on the server | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | oh, let's change the resolution | 22:02 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | [Your video card does not support this driver, would you like to use the proprietary one instead?] | 22:03 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | ... | 22:03 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | hrm, it was ok before the update | 22:03 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | ... | 22:03 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | how did you get to that website ? | 22:04 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | um, on this link | 22:05 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | [ouch] | 22:05 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | goes back to trying to figure out how | 22:05 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | ... | 22:05 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | looks like myspace and facebook is going to be a problem | 22:32 |
| Ahmuck-Sr | gaia online, facebook for kids ? | 22:36 |
| ace_suares1 | hehe nice 'converstaion' Ahmuck-Sr | 22:41 |
| ace_suares1 | sbalneav: ping | 22:55 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: geeze, you renamed 50+ meeting pages?! | 23:02 |
| ace_suares1 | hey that's called WORK :-) | 23:02 |
| LaserJock | but why did you rename them? | 23:04 |
| ace_suares1 | becasue they now are under our own WikiSite. | 23:04 |
| LaserJock | I don't see why they should go under WikiSite, that just makes the URL longer | 23:04 |
| LaserJock | it also breaks any external URLs | 23:04 |
| ace_suares1 | okay well maybe you should bring it up next meeting | 23:05 |
| LaserJock | I thought you were using WikiSite for stuff specifically about the wiki, like cleanup and such | 23:05 |
| ace_suares1 | I don't mind to make redirects for all pages if it really breaks outside links but I think that those page don't have outside links! | 23:05 |
| ace_suares1 | No, wikisite is the new wiki | 23:05 |
| LaserJock | ?!! | 23:05 |
| ace_suares1 | everything is going to be moved or redirected to that new structure | 23:06 |
| LaserJock | that seems a bit odd | 23:06 |
| ace_suares1 | okay well there a lot of odd things | 23:06 |
| ace_suares1 | in last meeting i got the go ahead to do what I think is needed | 23:06 |
| LaserJock | can't we just take WikiSite out of the URL and get the same effect? | 23:06 |
| LaserJock | it just make everything have a longer URL | 23:06 |
| ace_suares1 | this doesn't mean you can't comment on what I do but I'd rather have structural discussions then well you know, vetting over every small thing | 23:07 |
| ace_suares1 | I put up a lot of tasks to be vettted nobody paid attention | 23:07 |
| LaserJock | I never saw ( I could have missed it) anything about moving the entire wiki under WikiSite | 23:07 |
| LaserJock | I saw cleanup, etc. | 23:07 |
| LaserJock | which is awesome | 23:08 |
| ace_suares1 | awesome panda? | 23:08 |
| ace_suares1 | say, how ode smeeting records and meeting logs relate? | 23:08 |
| ace_suares1 | how ode smeeting = how does meeting | 23:09 |
| LaserJock | well, we used to just copy-n-paste the IRC log into the meeting logs | 23:09 |
| LaserJock | now we tend to summarize | 23:09 |
| LaserJock | but ideally that log namespace should hold the "results" of all our meetings | 23:10 |
| ace_suares1 | IF the log namespace should hold the RESULTS what does the RECORDS mean ? | 23:10 |
| LaserJock | how do you mean? | 23:22 |
| LaserJock | results seems to me to be more-or-less the same thing as records | 23:22 |
| LaserJock | I think there is an Ubuntu-wide logging service for #ubuntu-meeting | 23:23 |
| LaserJock | so the raw logs aren't as needed as they used to be | 23:23 |
| LaserJock | so we tend to keep summaries, results, tasks/agenda item lists | 23:23 |
| LaserJock | but the namespace can be generally the same | 23:23 |
| ace_suares1 | I read about the ScribesTeam and I will contact them to see if they still summarize meetings. That would eb a good thing. | 23:26 |
| ace_suares1 | In /Logs you do find logs, but also fully transcribed meetings. | 23:27 |
| ace_suares1 | https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Logs/2009-08-28 I made this for our 28 aug meeting | 23:27 |
| ace_suares1 | LaserJock: are u there? | 23:31 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: yep | 23:34 |
| LaserJock | sorry, I'm floating between unpacking boxes | 23:34 |
| ace_suares1 | So It seems that the meeting RECORDS is just one big file, with a lot of individual meeting LOGS. | 23:34 |
| ace_suares1 | I wanted to ask you somethng but I figured it out already. | 23:34 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: I just thing the Meeting namespace was pretty OK where it was | 23:35 |
| LaserJock | *think | 23:35 |
| ace_suares1 | fine, thank you for youe opinion! | 23:35 |
| LaserJock | the URLs are quite long as it is | 23:35 |
| LaserJock | ace_suares1: for a move that large you might want to email the mailing list first for discussion | 23:35 |
| ace_suares1 | yeah sure I'll do that! | 23:36 |
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