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[09:50] <Himtuna> hi
[09:51] <Himtuna> I am looking for a solution were all lab computers are connected to one server.
[09:51] <Himtuna> the data is stored on server but all processing is done on client machine
[09:51] <Himtuna> ( as college will not spend money on new server)
[09:52] <Himtuna> anybody here?
[16:14] <mhall1191> nubae|work: you around today?
[18:06] <ace_suares1> LaserJock: where do i report bugs to the installer/dvd ?
[18:36] <Ahmuck-Sr> hi baby
[18:37] <Baby> hi :)
[18:37] <ace_suares1> hi all
[18:37] <Ahmuck-Sr> hiya ace_suares1
[18:37] <ace_suares1> Ahmuck-Sr: did you test the dvd ?
[18:38] <Ahmuck-Sr> nope
[18:38] <Ahmuck-Sr> i kinda like stable systems :)
[18:38] <Ahmuck-Sr> what's on the dvd ? karamic?
[18:41] <ace_suares1> yeah the edubuntu version of karmic but i run it in a virtualbox just for testing and helping them
[18:41] <ace_suares1> gotta go now sorry!
[18:42] <Ahmuck-Sr> will do then
[18:42]  * Ahmuck-Sr listening to good ol bluegrass :)
[18:43] <Ahmuck-Sr> link to dvd ?
[18:56] <mhall1191> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/current/
[19:10] <Ahmuck-Sr> no torrent ?
[19:16] <mhall1191> not that many people would be seeding anyway
[19:28] <Ahmuck-Sr> agreed
[19:50] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: well, depends on the bug. what happened?
[19:52] <LaserJock> we will *really* need testers between now and the 22nd (Karmic Beta release)
[19:52] <LaserJock> we've missed out on Alphas 1-5
[20:13] <Ahmuck-Sr> 22nd of Sept ?
[20:14] <Ahmuck-Sr> Release is as Keramic Beta
[20:14] <Ahmuck-Sr> anywho
[20:14] <Ahmuck-Sr> it as
[20:28] <ace_suares1> LaserJock: still there ?
[20:29] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: yep
[20:29] <ace_suares1> pkay so let me ask you something, I tested the live cd and installed it too in a virtualbox. But there is NO clu as that this is edubuntu.
[20:29] <LaserJock> Ahmuck-Sr: 22nd is when the Ubuntu Beta will be released
[20:29] <ace_suares1> It has the ubuntu logo and there is no spceial edubuntu content
[20:29] <ace_suares1> was this intentional?
[20:29] <LaserJock> well, sorta
[20:30] <LaserJock> I haven't done much yet, other than create our own seed
[20:30] <ace_suares1> okay i understand
[20:30] <ace_suares1> so a lot has to be done then ;-)
[20:30]  * LaserJock notes that he has been saying that for months :-)
[20:30] <ace_suares1> can you send a mail to edubuntu-users when you re build the dvd ?
[20:31] <ace_suares1> i am using zsync now and want to try and keep up to dat. But a full downlaid takes 12 hrs with my speed.
[20:38] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: the DVD is rebuilt daily automatically
[20:38] <ace_suares1> yeah well, if nothing edubuntu specific changed, then why test it?
[20:38] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: the size of download is one reason why we didn't want to go to DVD, it makes it much harder to do trivial testing
[20:39] <LaserJock> well, I intend to make edubuntu-specific changes
[20:39] <ace_suares1> yeah well if you do, can you send a mail? I think you want the logo on the splash screen at least, and also the menu filled with all the edu apps?
[20:40] <LaserJock> well, the logo will probably take the longest
[20:40] <LaserJock> but we need to decide what apps should go in there, etc.
[20:40] <LaserJock> right now I believe the edubuntu apps are in, just not in the Live part
[20:40] <ace_suares1> hm i wouldnt wait for anyone to decide ;-(
[20:41] <LaserJock> well, I know
[20:41] <ace_suares1> well i downloaded yesterday and the menu didn't even have an education entry
[20:41] <LaserJock> right
[20:41] <LaserJock> the .debs are on there though
[20:41] <LaserJock> just not installed into the live session, I need to figure out how that works
[20:41] <ace_suares1> yeah well I assume you want people that download a edbunut dvd not to have to manually install them ????
[20:42] <ace_suares1> oh and they ar enot installe dinto the install version too 9i installed FROm the live cd, not from the bootup menu!)
[20:45] <LaserJock> well, no, that's why I said I need to figure out how to get them into the Live session
[20:46] <LaserJock> there's a fair amount of work yet to do, and not a lot of time as this was *supposed* to all be done by August 27th
[20:46] <ace_suares1> LaserJock: i don't understand. Okay, they are not IN the live CD; but if you click the INSTALL button on the desktop, then that is the same as installing from the boot menu, or not?
[20:46] <LaserJock> no, no
[20:46] <LaserJock> well
[20:46] <ace_suares1> hmm so When I install from the boot menu, then they will be in the menu? Or also not ?
[20:47] <LaserJock> I don't think so right now
[20:47] <LaserJock> the way the DVD works is it has the typical Live CD part + tons of .debs
[20:47] <LaserJock> that can be installed later, for people without a lot of bandwidth
[20:48] <ace_suares1> ok got you, that's the whole Idea of the dvd isn't it.
[20:48] <LaserJock> so for the Ubuntu DVD it's basically Ubuntu Desktop CD + most .debs in Main
[20:48] <LaserJock> well, we're a bit different
[20:48] <LaserJock> in that we don't have a Live CD
[20:48] <LaserJock> and our contents is quite a bit larger than Ubuntu's
[20:49] <ace_suares1> ah really didn't know that
[20:49] <LaserJock> so the split between what goes on the Live part of the DVD and what will just be .debs is something that needs to be figured out
[20:50] <ace_suares1> okay well i propose to at least fill the education menu. Can't you with tasksel automatically install the edubuntu meta packages?
[20:50] <LaserJock> well
[20:50] <LaserJock> if I was using tasksel yeah :-)
[20:52] <ace_suares1> so how can i help
[20:52] <LaserJock> mainly in testing I think right now
[20:53] <LaserJock> tweaking the seeds takes just a couple minutes for me to do
[20:53] <ace_suares1> what's there to test? What can I test? Procedure?
[20:53] <LaserJock> but I often don't have much time to test the result
[20:53] <LaserJock> well, you already did a test for me
[20:53] <LaserJock> :-)
[20:53] <LaserJock> you said it was no different
[20:53] <LaserJock> so now I'm going back to the seeds to see if I can get the Education menu populated a bit more :-)
[20:53] <ace_suares1> yeah so thank me 1000x :-)
[20:54] <ace_suares1> okay that would be great! so please send a mail on the list when you done it so i know on which days i have to do the zsync dance whihc is time consuming!
[20:54] <LaserJock> ok, that sounds reasonable
[20:54] <ace_suares1> i am extremely reasonable :-)
[21:00] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: btw, how long have you been working on the wiki?
[21:05] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: woah, why are you renaming the meeting logs?
[21:17] <ace_suares1> hi LaserJock
[21:17] <ace_suares1> stil there i gotta go for an hour
[21:17] <ace_suares1> can talk to you later about the wiki
[21:20] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: yeah, we can talk later
[22:01] <Ahmuck-Sr> oooh, look that computer has regular internet
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> which one
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> that one, with the big blue e
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> oh
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> um, why can't i hear sound on this one
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> well, how bout this one, it's the server
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> ok
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> ...
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> my text is to small
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> where
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> over here on the server
[22:02] <Ahmuck-Sr> oh, let's change the resolution
[22:03] <Ahmuck-Sr> [Your video card does not support this driver, would you like to use the proprietary one instead?]
[22:03] <Ahmuck-Sr> ...
[22:03] <Ahmuck-Sr> hrm, it was ok before the update
[22:03] <Ahmuck-Sr> ...
[22:04] <Ahmuck-Sr> how did you get to that website ?
[22:05] <Ahmuck-Sr> um, on this link
[22:05] <Ahmuck-Sr> [ouch]
[22:05] <Ahmuck-Sr> goes back to trying to figure out how
[22:05] <Ahmuck-Sr> ...
[22:32] <Ahmuck-Sr> looks like myspace and facebook is going to be a problem
[22:36] <Ahmuck-Sr> gaia online, facebook for kids ?
[22:41] <ace_suares1> hehe nice 'converstaion' Ahmuck-Sr
[22:55] <ace_suares1> sbalneav: ping
[23:02] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: geeze, you renamed 50+ meeting pages?!
[23:02] <ace_suares1> hey that's called WORK :-)
[23:04] <LaserJock> but why did you rename them?
[23:04] <ace_suares1> becasue they now are under our own WikiSite.
[23:04] <LaserJock> I don't see why they should go under WikiSite, that just makes the URL longer
[23:04] <LaserJock> it also breaks any external URLs
[23:05] <ace_suares1> okay well maybe you should bring it up next meeting
[23:05] <LaserJock> I thought you were using WikiSite for stuff specifically about the wiki, like cleanup and such
[23:05] <ace_suares1> I don't mind to make redirects for all pages if it really breaks outside links but I think that those page don't have outside links!
[23:05] <ace_suares1> No, wikisite is the new wiki
[23:05] <LaserJock> ?!!
[23:06] <ace_suares1> everything is going to be moved or redirected to that new structure
[23:06] <LaserJock> that seems a bit odd
[23:06] <ace_suares1> okay well there a lot of odd things
[23:06] <ace_suares1> in last meeting i got the go ahead to do what I think is needed
[23:06] <LaserJock> can't we just take WikiSite out of the URL and get the same effect?
[23:06] <LaserJock> it just make everything have a longer URL
[23:07] <ace_suares1> this doesn't mean you can't comment on what I do but I'd rather have structural discussions then well you know, vetting over every small thing
[23:07] <ace_suares1> I put up a lot of tasks to be vettted nobody paid attention
[23:07] <LaserJock> I never saw ( I could have missed it) anything about moving the entire wiki under WikiSite
[23:07] <LaserJock> I saw cleanup, etc.
[23:08] <LaserJock> which is awesome
[23:08] <ace_suares1> awesome panda?
[23:08] <ace_suares1> say, how ode smeeting records and meeting logs relate?
[23:09] <ace_suares1> how ode smeeting = how does meeting
[23:09] <LaserJock> well, we used to just copy-n-paste the IRC log into the meeting logs
[23:09] <LaserJock> now we tend to summarize
[23:10] <LaserJock> but ideally that log namespace should hold the "results" of all our meetings
[23:10] <ace_suares1> IF the log namespace should hold the RESULTS what does the RECORDS mean ?
[23:22] <LaserJock> how do you mean?
[23:22] <LaserJock> results seems to me to be more-or-less the same thing as records
[23:23] <LaserJock> I think there is an Ubuntu-wide logging service for #ubuntu-meeting
[23:23] <LaserJock> so the raw logs aren't as needed as they used to be
[23:23] <LaserJock> so we tend to keep summaries, results, tasks/agenda item lists
[23:23] <LaserJock> but the namespace can be generally the same
[23:26] <ace_suares1> I read about the ScribesTeam and I will contact them to see if they still summarize meetings. That would eb a good thing.
[23:27] <ace_suares1> In /Logs you do find logs, but also fully transcribed meetings.
[23:27] <ace_suares1> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/Logs/2009-08-28 I made this for our 28 aug meeting
[23:31] <ace_suares1> LaserJock: are u there?
[23:34] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: yep
[23:34] <LaserJock> sorry, I'm floating between unpacking boxes
[23:34] <ace_suares1> So It seems that the meeting RECORDS is just one big file, with a lot of individual meeting LOGS.
[23:34] <ace_suares1> I wanted to ask you somethng but I figured it out already.
[23:35] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: I just thing the Meeting namespace was pretty OK where it was
[23:35] <LaserJock> *think
[23:35] <ace_suares1> fine, thank you for youe opinion!
[23:35] <LaserJock> the URLs are quite long as it is
[23:35] <LaserJock> ace_suares1: for a move that large you might want to email the mailing list first for discussion
[23:36] <ace_suares1> yeah sure I'll do that!