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| maxb | https://dev.launchpad.net/DetailedCoverLetterTemplate is quite daunting | 00:45 |
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| maxb | does it really all apply for a 3-line change? | 00:45 |
| maxb | e.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maxb/launchpad/py2.5-buildmailman/revision/9329 | 00:46 |
| mthaddon | maxb: I imagine (but am definitely not really that qualified) that you'd want to include all those section, but if they're not relevant, very briefly explain why | 00:55 |
| jml | maxb, I almost never follow the template & I've yet to get in trouble :) | 01:26 |
| maxb | :-) | 01:26 |
| jml | maxb, I find it helpful to think of the headings as a checklist | 01:26 |
| jml | maxb, so that when I'm writing a cover letter, I think "Have I explained the implementation? Have I mentioned how to do QA?" etc. | 01:27 |
| jml | flacoste, do you know how to submit a branch to launchpadlib? | 01:28 |
| * jml keeps getting rejected by PQM | 01:28 | |
| wgrant | jml: Merge to trunk! | 01:29 |
| wgrant | It's not PQM-owned. | 01:29 |
| jml | wgrant, ahh, ok | 01:30 |
| jml | my local trunk branch is branched from pqm | 01:30 |
| jml | hmm | 01:30 |
| * jml corrects | 01:30 | |
| wgrant | jml: Is there a DEV_SERVICE_ROOT yet? | 01:30 |
| jml | wgrant, no, how about I sneak one in with this change | 01:30 |
| wgrant | jml: Thanks. | 01:31 |
| jml | hmm | 01:35 |
| jml | we should set lp:launchpad to append_revisions_only | 01:35 |
| wgrant | lp:launchpadlib, you mean? | 01:35 |
| jml | no :) | 01:35 |
| jml | although that too | 01:35 |
| wgrant | But lp:launchpad isn't pushable to. | 01:36 |
| jml | I almost typed 'bzr push lp:launchpad' from my launchpadlib branch. | 01:36 |
| wgrant | So why does it matter? | 01:36 |
| jml | wgrant, it is by me :) | 01:36 |
| wgrant | Oh. | 01:36 |
| wgrant | Of course. | 01:36 |
| jml | I don't want permissions to do so, but I have them. | 01:36 |
| wgrant | Wasn't that meant to go away? | 01:36 |
| jml | I couldn't persuade thumper to do so. | 01:37 |
| jml | well, not in the short term | 01:40 |
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| maxb | When a test reports failure, without any error messages whatsoever, how do you debug? | 11:18 |
| wgrant | maxb: Pastebin? | 11:26 |
| maxb | preparing | 11:27 |
| maxb | http://paste.ubuntu.com/265476/ | 11:29 |
| wgrant | maxb: Odd. But my guess is that you don't have the right python-sqlite. | 11:30 |
| maxb | hmm | 11:30 |
| wgrant | Or sqlite2 or whatever it is. | 11:30 |
| maxb | I seem to have both | 11:31 |
| wgrant | That's a pretty wild guess, though. | 11:31 |
| wgrant | Does it say anything more if you run just that test with lots of '-v's? | 11:31 |
| maxb | no :-( | 11:40 |
| wgrant | maxb: Does -D drop you into anything useful? | 11:41 |
| maxb | self.assertFalse(broken_builder.builderok) | 11:44 |
| maxb | hm | 11:44 |
| maxb | eww | 11:46 |
| maxb | we really ought to disallow assertions without messages, or make them show a traceback | 11:46 |
| maxb | It's throwing a twisted.trial.unittest.FailTest and that's disappearing into the voids | 11:48 |
| maxb | *void | 11:48 |
| wgrant | Ah, yuck. | 11:49 |
| wgrant | Ah, that's from the top failure which I had no idea about. | 11:50 |
| wgrant | In what environment is this failing? | 11:50 |
| maxb | karmic/py2.4 + a few innocuous patches which I can't believe are related | 11:51 |
| maxb | but I'll revert them anyway and try again | 11:51 |
| wgrant | Hmm | 11:51 |
| * wgrant tests. | 11:51 | |
| maxb | on lp:launchpad/stable | 11:51 |
| wgrant | maxb: Um, it fails here too, but doesn't contribute to the failure counts. | 11:54 |
| maxb | ! | 11:55 |
| wgrant | How odd. | 11:55 |
| wgrant | maxb: Ah. Sampledata change. | 12:03 |
| maxb | ooh | 12:03 |
| maxb | right | 12:03 |
| wgrant | maxb: But not in the direction that I would expect... | 12:04 |
| maxb | but....... doesn't make check reload it all every time? | 12:04 |
| wgrant | Yes. | 12:04 |
| wgrant | There's something strange here. | 12:04 |
| wgrant | The test should fail. | 12:04 |
| wgrant | And I suspect buildbot logs will say it does. | 12:04 |
| wgrant | But it's not counting in the totals. | 12:05 |
| wgrant | This is very very bad, or we are very confusing. | 12:05 |
| wgrant | (the change was to make 'bob' in the ftest sampledata OK, so this test should obviously faily) | 12:05 |
| wgrant | But if it's in stable, the test never failed. | 12:05 |
| wgrant | But we know it did. | 12:05 |
| maxb | unpossible! :-) | 12:06 |
| wgrant | And: | 12:06 |
| wgrant | Failure in test testScanRescuesJobFromBrokenBuilder (lp.buildmaster.tests.test_manager.TestBuilddManagerScan) | 12:06 |
| wgrant | testScanUpdatesBuildingJobs (lp.buildmaster.tests.test_manager.TestBuilddManagerScan) (1.593 s) | 12:06 |
| wgrant | That makes me very scared. | 12:06 |
| wgrant | Ran 4 tests with 0 failures and 0 errors in 9.342 seconds. | 12:06 |
| * wgrant retries the test with old and new clean sample data. | 12:08 | |
| * maxb kicks off a testrun of devel/jaunty/py2.4 and goes out shopping | 12:29 | |
| wgrant | security.py is not being friendly. | 12:29 |
| maxb | and after shopping, I shall get stuck into writing merge cover letters | 12:31 |
| wgrant | Fun fun. | 12:32 |
| wgrant | maxb: So, that test has been failing. I thought to check an ec2test log from a couple of days ago, and it's shown there (the only failure). | 12:51 |
| wgrant | But the test suite completes successfully. | 12:51 |
| maxb | riiigh | 12:51 |
| maxb | t | 12:51 |
| * wgrant files a bug. | 12:51 | |
| wgrant | Two bugs | 12:51 |
| maxb | well, that sucks, and I have more weird failures too | 12:52 |
| maxb | For example a couple of launchpadlib-1.5.1's doctests are exploding because I'm getting bytestrings and the doctest expects unicode strings | 12:52 |
| wgrant | Same. | 12:52 |
| james_w | maxb: I landed a fix for that a few weeks ago I thought | 14:00 |
| james_w | ah, that was wadllib | 14:05 |
| james_w | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lazr-developers/wadllib/trunk/revision/11 | 14:05 |
| james_w | might help though | 14:05 |
| maxb | Data point: running make check on an AAO takes 9ΒΌ hours | 22:30 |
| wgrant | maxb: *Ouch.* | 23:19 |
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