[09:39] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[09:40] <mac_v> !logs
[13:04] <dashua> Good morning.
[13:06] <SiDi_> heya dashua
[13:07] <dashua> Hey SiDi_
[13:07] <dashua> How's things?
[13:08] <SiDi_> fine, you ?
[13:08] <dashua> Good good.
[13:09] <dashua> Had a silly idea with the gconf settings in notify-osd.
[13:09] <dashua> Not even sure if it would be possible, but I don't see why not.
[13:09] <dashua> Would a compiz plugin be possible?
[13:10] <SiDi_> hm
[13:10] <SiDi_> I dont know anything about compiz :P
[13:10] <SiDi_> but surely, i think its possible
[13:10] <SiDi_> all you have to do is manipulate keys, so w/e app using gconf / xfconf is compatible
[13:11] <SiDi_> of course the compiz plugin wouldnt work on xubuntu :p
[13:11] <dashua> Yeah, that's the problem
[13:11] <SiDi_> anyway, since we dont use gconf, we'll have to have our own 'theming' utility aside from the one used for the gnome notify-osd
[13:11] <dashua> There's already a positioning code for edge behaviors
[13:11] <SiDi_> so that shouldnt stop you
[13:12] <dashua> I'll look into it.  I'm not sure of the compiz code as it is being rewritten
[13:12] <SiDi_> Actually
[13:12] <SiDi_> a python app correctly written could handle both
[13:13] <dashua> The configuration menu is in python.
[13:13] <SiDi_> for now i think the best is to let notify-osd mature and let it land in karmic, w/out exposing the features
[13:13] <SiDi_> then i'll see how i can write an app that can be put directly into the xfce settings window
[13:14] <dashua> Nice
[13:14] <SiDi_> that app could also be used w/ gconf, i think (since you can handle import errors very very easily in python)
[13:16] <dashua> Ah
[13:28] <mac_v> dashua: look at how dust does the compiz changes
[13:28] <mac_v> you could just copy the file and use your own settings
[13:29] <dashua> I was thinking of an actual plugin for CCSM that would be configurable.
[13:30] <dashua> But that may work just to set the gconf settings if notify-osd
[13:30] <mac_v> dashua: that would be too much work , compiz devs wont easily allow new plugins
[13:31] <mac_v> and cmopiz is too complex , a plugin has an impact on every other component
[13:31] <dashua> Yeah and I'm not familiar with the new C++ code
[13:31] <mac_v> compiz*
[13:31] <SiDi_> dashua: i'll probably write some notify-osd utilies at some tme
[13:31] <SiDi_> i began writing an history browser in vala but i'll probably go for python
[13:31] <dashua> SiDi_, Sweet.
[13:31] <SiDi_> so there will be only one package for n-o and n-o-xfce :p
[13:34] <mac_v> dashua: do you want any changes to the buttons? or are they fine as is?
[13:36] <dashua> mac_v, I have no problems thus far.  Waiting for input from other users, but nothing yet.
[13:36] <dashua> They look very good to me.
[13:37] <mac_v>  :)
[13:37] <dashua> Have you tested it out?
[13:37] <mac_v> dashua: other users? as in SiDi_ ;p
[13:37] <dashua> Hehe
[13:38] <SiDi_> metacity ?
[13:38] <SiDi_> i asks screenshots :)
[13:38] <SiDi_> let me know when you wanna release btw dashua so i'll do the xfwm the day before :p
[13:38] <SiDi_> (i know ive been lagging out the last few months, but well :P)
[13:38] <dashua> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Hanso?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=terminal_metacity.png
[13:38] <dashua> Ok cool
[13:39] <dashua> I have 0.3.1 for coming soon
[13:39] <mac_v> i'v used it and my obseravtions are almost the same since yesterday ;)
[13:40] <SiDi_> the menu button is definately sexy :)
[13:40] <SiDi_> dashua: do you have a screenshot of an app with a statusbar in the bottom ?
[13:40] <dashua> Not on the Wiki yet
[13:41] <dashua> You want a shot of Nautilus?
[13:42] <SiDi_> i saw one on the wiki
[13:42] <SiDi_> you didnt change the bottom of metacity till then, right ,
[13:42] <SiDi_> ?
[13:42] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23835/screenshot_014_964Kna.png
[13:42] <mac_v> dashua: 1: light shade for the metacity bottom , 2: use same maximize animation for both normal and maximized windows , 3: i prefer app icons ;p
[13:42] <dashua> No, that is still the same
[13:43] <dashua> mac_v, Get rid of the square you think?
[13:43] <mac_v> dashua: i would think the square is better for both , just use it reversed for the maximized windows
[13:44] <mac_v> or what you could do is
[13:44] <dashua> Ok, get rid of the arrows pointing inward and out then?
[13:44] <mac_v> dashua: use the square for normal and the prelight as the arrows
[13:45] <mac_v> if you want it that way^ , i have an idea of an icon for that
[13:45] <dashua> Ok, I'll try some variations
[13:47] <SiDi_> you should do something for the shadow of the forward label dashua :)
[13:47] <mac_v> dashua: if you are using the square , we can use the arrows on the sides of the square , similar to the fullscreen icons
[13:48] <mac_v> but without the square
[13:50] <dashua> SiDi_, The shadow I would like to change, but not sure how =/
[13:51] <mac_v> SiDi_: you cant...
[13:51] <dashua> mac_v, Cool, I will try these different variations
[13:51] <mac_v> dashua: let me know if you can :)
[13:51] <dashua> mac_v, I don't know of any way
[13:51] <SiDi_> mac_v: im sure you can ! :P
[13:51] <SiDi_> you can has cheezburger
[13:51] <dashua> Haha
[13:51] <mac_v> ;p
[13:52] <SiDi_> its the shadow of deactivated text in toolbars
[13:52] <SiDi_> that should be reachable :P
[13:52] <mac_v> dashua: where is the shadow variable set?
[13:52] <dashua> Insensitive text maybe?
[13:52] <mac_v> there *must* be something for that
[13:53] <mac_v> Cimi: hi... any ideas, where how shadows for the inactive text are set?
[13:53] <mac_v> *where/how
[13:54] <mac_v> dashua: insenstive text? i didnt understand?
[13:54] <SiDi_> dashua: i think its insensitive yes
[13:55] <dashua> Yeah, that changes the text, but not the shadow of the icons
[13:56] <mac_v> dashua: GtkStatusbar     ::shadow-type       	= GTK_SHADOW_NONE
[13:56] <SiDi_> yay
[13:56] <mac_v> dashua: GtkToolbar     	::shadow-type       = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
[13:56] <dashua> mac_v, w00t
[13:56] <dashua> Nice
[13:56] <mac_v> \o/
[13:57] <dashua> I already have those set though
[13:57] <Cimi> mac_v, in the engine, in the code
[13:57] <mac_v> thanks
[13:59] <mac_v> dashua: try shadow		= OUT   or shadow		= IN
[13:59] <dashua> Ok
[13:59] <mac_v> works for pixmaps , not sure how it works for the rest
[14:06] <mac_v> ah doesnt work :/
[14:08] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23844/screenshot_015_yo039j.png
[14:08] <dashua> Better?
[14:26] <SiDi_> YES :]
[14:27] <SiDi_> what does it give if you unsaturate the insensitive text ?
[14:28] <mac_v> dashua: \o/ how did you do that ?
[14:30] <Cimi> mac_v, fg[INSENSITIVE]
[14:31] <mac_v> Cimi: oh... thats what that is , hehe
[14:46] <SiDi_> dashua: could you please send me those desaturated status icons you use, with their sources if possible ?
[14:48] <mac_v> --
[14:48] <mac_v> Steve Dodier
[14:48] <mac_v> OpenPGP : 1B6B1670
[14:48] <mac_v> IRC : SiDi on irc.freenode.net
[14:48] <mac_v> Jabber : sidi@im.apinc.org
[14:48] <mac_v> steve.dodier@gmail.com
[14:48] <mac_v> https://launchpad.net/~sidi
[14:48] <mac_v> lol! ;p
[14:59] <dashua> mac_v, I didn't change the icons, just the config
[15:00] <dashua> Just pushed them to trunk, now to the metacity
[15:00]  * mac_v checking
[15:01] <SiDi_> mac_v: whats wrong with my signature ? :P
[15:04] <SiDi> Damn ISP
[15:04] <SiDi> dashua: i dont know if you got my message :P
[15:04] <dashua> Which one?
[15:05] <mac_v> lol
[15:05] <SiDi> When i asked you if you could send me the panel status icons you use in your screenshot
[15:05] <SiDi> the grayish ones
[15:05] <SiDi>  w/ the sources if possible :p
[15:06]  * mac_v knows which ... hehe.... <evil grin>
[15:07] <dashua> Oh shit, thought that was mac_v
[15:07] <dashua> Too many names in here
[15:07] <SiDi> only mac_v you, SiDi_ and me
[15:07] <dashua> I have no sources it just does it in the theme
[15:07] <dashua> 50/50 shot andd I guess wrong =/
[15:07] <SiDi> send me the theme then please :P
[15:07] <dashua> Ok
[15:07] <mac_v> dashua: he's talking about humanity
[15:08] <mac_v> panel icons ;)
[15:08] <SiDi> mac_v: i dont think it was humanity x_x
[15:08] <SiDi> but yeah i speak about the panel iconz
[15:09] <dashua> I am confused now.  SiDi what theme are you asking for?
[15:09] <mac_v> dashua: he *is* talking about humanity and doesnt know it ;p
[15:09] <SiDi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Hanso?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=desktop_full.png
[15:09] <SiDi> the one with the grey volume icon in this screenshot
[15:09] <SiDi> mac_v: i use humanity and never saw these icons :P
[15:09] <dashua> Oh yeah
[15:10] <dashua> They are mac_v's creations
[15:10] <SiDi> why is mac_v keeping secret icons out of my reach ? :P
[15:10] <mac_v> SiDi: they are in the humanity theme , latest revs
[15:11] <dashua> bzr branch lp:humanity
[15:11] <SiDi> i see
[15:11] <SiDi> i use the PPA
[15:11] <SiDi> got xcf/svg sources ? :P
[15:12] <dashua> No they are rendered in trunk
[15:12] <mac_v> SiDi: all the humanity icons are svg , just pull them from bzr
[15:12] <SiDi> okey
[15:13] <dashua> mac_v, The bars are back for nm-applet :)
[15:13] <dashua> No more circles, eh?
[15:13] <mac_v> dashua: the nm icons were not Dan's idea
[15:13] <mac_v> he didnt like them
[15:14] <mac_v> dashua: as i said earlier ,they dont match the rest of the icons which are crisp , Dan felt the same too , before i could even mention it he had them changed ;)
[15:14] <mac_v> already
[15:15] <dashua> Yeah, after you mentioned that I noticed it.
[15:16] <mac_v> dashua: the funny thing is , i had done a very similar icons as those but did not show Dan , because they didnt match the theme
[15:16] <dashua> I need to talk to Cory about getting those into Breathe, so much nicer
[15:16] <dashua> Or something similar
[15:16] <SiDi> mac_v: shouldnt audio-volume-muted show a little 'muted' cross ?
[15:17] <mac_v> yeah my thoughts exactly,
[15:17] <mac_v> SiDi: have to discuss it first
[15:18] <mac_v> thanks for reminding, i had been meaning to change that for 2 days :)
[15:19] <mac_v> SiDi: ^
[15:20] <SiDi> discuss it with kwwii ? :P
[15:20]  * mac_v wonders why SiDi thinks kwwii is the author
[15:20] <SiDi> kwwii is the main author of Humanity, right ?
[15:21] <SiDi> but i understood you're the author of these sexy icons, mac_v :P
[15:21] <mac_v> wrong
[15:21] <SiDi> oh ?
[15:21] <SiDi> why is it in his PPA then ? :/
[15:21] <mac_v> SiDi: for testing ,
[15:22] <mac_v> SiDi: Daniel Fore , you could have just checked the lp
[15:22] <SiDi> okey
[15:22] <SiDi> sorry for that confusion :P
[15:23] <mac_v> SiDi: we have been discussing this right under you nose in ayatana and you never knew it ,   it was so funny the other day when you kept asking kwwii
[15:23] <SiDi> mac_v: you're evil :D
[15:24] <mac_v> ;p
[15:36] <mac_v> dashua:	GtkButton      ::focus-line-width  = 0
[15:36] <mac_v> try adding that and check out how it looks^
[15:36] <SiDi> mac_v: oh you icon expert
[15:36] <SiDi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=notify-osd-default-icon-set.png
[15:36] <SiDi> where are these wireless icons from ?
[15:36] <mac_v> SiDi: thats kwwii/mat_t
[15:37] <mac_v> SiDi: why the doubt?
[15:56] <SiDi> What do you mean by doubt  ?/P
[15:58] <wers> !theming
[15:58] <wers> !gtk
[15:58] <mac_v> SiDi: wondered why you asked about the notify-osd icons...?
[15:59] <SiDi> mac_v: i just didnt manage to find these in any theme
[15:59] <SiDi> i know usually the design document is modified by mat
[15:59] <SiDi> but i was wondering if you'd know which version of which theme these icons are in
[15:59] <mac_v> SiDi: it is in Human
[15:59] <SiDi> in karmic ? :p
[16:00] <mac_v> SiDi: oh those...! those were the initial designs... i think macSlow will has them
[16:01] <wers> If you like the humanity icon theme, i recommend checking out Erectus. Very complete, human-ish, and tango-compliant http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Erectus?content=100254
[16:01] <mac_v> SiDi: *i think macslow has them
[16:01] <mac_v> he uses them in his screencasts
[16:43] <mrdoob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257165&page=2
[16:44] <mrdoob> thoughts anyone?
[16:46] <mac_v> mrdoob: is that your handy work? looking good :)
[16:46] <mrdoob> handy work?
[16:46] <mrdoob> I was trying to make it more simple :)
[16:47] <mrdoob> less borders
[16:47] <mrdoob> you know
[16:47] <mac_v> how was it previous;y , i remember it without the explanations , is that alpha 5?
[16:47] <mrdoob> top of the page = old
[16:47] <mrdoob> bottom of the page = new
[16:47] <mrdoob> I mean..
[16:48] <mrdoob> top of the page = current
[16:48] <mac_v> hehe , gotcha
[16:48] <mrdoob> bottom of the page = my suggestion
[16:48] <mac_v> mrdoob: have you tried to contact the guys?
[16:48] <mrdoob> which guys?
[16:48] <mac_v> who are doing the slideshow
[16:48] <mrdoob> no idea who it is doing it :)
[16:49] <mrdoob> that's the main problem I'm finding while trying to contribute
[16:49] <mac_v> ;)
[16:49] <mac_v> mrdoob: wait let me get you the link
[16:51] <mrdoob> did MadsRH did that one?
[16:53] <SiDi> MadsRH did the look of the current slideshow
[16:53] <SiDi> i remember helping him with css
[16:53] <SiDi> i think there is a ubuntu-slideshow lp project
[16:53] <mrdoob> ok, I'll ping him then
[16:59] <mrdoob> thanks SiDi
[17:00] <dashua> mac_v, Ok, I had it, then reverted
[17:05] <dashua> wers, Erectus is ok, Breathe combined with Humanity still makes the best set IMHO
[17:07] <wers> dashua, breath looks good but I still prefer Erectus because it fits the rest of the desktop. i know that trying to get the oxygen look is great but it will take a while before it oxygen-ize the whole desktop
[17:07] <wers> it will always lack visual consistency because apps will always follow tango guidelines
[17:09] <wers> as for Humanity, it's not really tango as well. i guess, it fits the preference of many users because of its modern look but for a larger audience (official themes for release), i prefer tango compliant ones
[17:09] <dashua> True, there are some inconsistencies but still is or was in  active development
[17:10] <dashua> mac_v, http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23853/screenshot_016_zcoidW.png
[17:10] <wers> yep. it's in very active development. it's nice to see where it is heading but before it completely changes every tango icon on the gnome desktop, they're not really for production imho
[17:10] <dashua> I don't like this focus and was a serious area of contention for the Human theme in Jaunty
[17:11] <mac_v> dashua: hmmm.. i didnt understand?
[17:11] <wers> dashua, which focus? the one on check buttons?
[17:12] <mac_v> dashua: i *hated* the lines around them , that was one of the reasons i was hunting for the focus
[17:12] <dashua> mac_v, I like the effect it has on the button itself but it does some ugly things elsewhere
[17:13] <dashua> I just remember it being a big issue in Human with the murrine engine
[17:13] <mac_v> hehe i thought it was better ;p
[17:13] <dashua> Cimi, fixed it right before release
[17:13] <mac_v> dashua: or try this> GtkButton      ::interior-focus	      = 0
[17:14] <mac_v> remove the previous line and try this one^
[17:15] <wers> i think, it would help if the focus is more pronounced. the solution could be keeping the lines or darkening the highlight
[17:16] <dashua> mac_v, I messed with all of the options and could not come to a reasonable compromise
[17:16] <mac_v> hehe ;p
[17:23] <dashua> mac_v, SiDi_, http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23855/screenshot_017_nn1xHq.png
[17:23] <dashua> Look better than the previous insensitive?
[17:24] <mac_v> looks better , :)
[17:24] <mac_v> dashua: which are the lines you adjusted?
[17:24] <dashua> The fg[INSENSITIVE]  for dark
[17:24] <mac_v> mrdoob: you need to get in touch with the ubiquity-slideshow mailing list...
[17:24] <SiDi_> yes dashua
[17:24] <SiDi_> much easier to read
[17:25] <dashua> It matches more along with the metacity
[17:25] <dashua> Ok cool, I thought so too :)
[17:25] <SiDi_> but i think you should try to make the saturation identical to the one of the icons dashua
[17:25] <SiDi_> ie. more grey
[17:25] <mac_v> eeek!
[17:25] <mac_v> no , its nice now :)
[17:26] <dashua> SiDi_, icons should be the same as before
[17:27] <dashua> Grey or brown, whatcha think?
[17:27] <mac_v> for which?
[17:27] <dashua> fg[INSENSITIVE] for dark
[17:28] <mac_v> dashua: give the current full value you are using  , let me test it out
[17:28] <dashua> fg[INSENSITIVE]   = "#664E30"
[17:29] <dashua> This is against the brown pixmap toolbar as well
[17:30] <mac_v> dashua: hmm... i think you have adjusted something else as well , its not the same for me as the screenshot
[17:31] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23856/screenshot_018_fI3nfw.png
[17:31] <mac_v> dashua: could you push to branch
[17:31] <dashua> There is SiDi_'s recommendation
[17:31] <dashua> Sure, grey or brown?
[17:32] <dashua> Consensus?
[17:32] <dashua> Out of the two last screenies
[17:32] <mac_v> hehe , i must say SiDi_ is always right
[17:32] <dashua> :P
[17:32] <mac_v> greay
[17:32] <mac_v> grey
[17:32] <dashua> Yeah, he is =/
[17:32] <dashua> Ok one sec
[17:33] <SiDi_> mac_v: dashua <3
[17:34] <mac_v> i imagined grey= lightgrey!
[17:34] <dashua> Pushed
[17:34] <SiDi_> with grey it is as easy to read but brings less the attention, making it more clear that its insensitive ;p
[17:34] <dashua> Thanks for the input
[17:34] <SiDi_> you're welcome
[17:34] <mac_v> dashua: what else is easier than input ;p
[17:34] <mac_v> ;)
[17:34] <dashua> You think that would look good on the unfocused metacity?
[17:34] <dashua> Brown now
[17:35] <mac_v> let me check
[17:35] <dashua> Let me test
[17:36] <mac_v> dashua: the humanity battery icons are fixed \o/
[17:36] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23857/screenshot_019_zNBkMq.png
[17:36] <dashua> Wow
[17:36] <dashua> That does look nice
[17:36] <dashua> mac_v, Sweet
[17:36] <dashua> I uninstalled g-p-m
[17:37] <dashua> Monitor would not sleep with it installed
[17:37] <mac_v> hmm... you can use $xset s 300
[17:37] <mac_v> that will solve it or
[17:37] <dashua> Yeah, I never had to that before
[17:37] <dashua> Something has changed
[17:38] <mac_v> dashua: that is not a gpm problem ,it is actually xorg problem
[17:38] <mac_v> the two just keep getting confused :/
[17:38] <mac_v> each thinks the other is working!
[17:38] <dashua> Yeah, but the patches were sent upstream for the xorg-xserver and they still do not work
[17:38] <dashua> I thought they were pushed to Karmic
[17:39] <mac_v> no they havent fixed xorg yet
[17:39] <mac_v> dashua: only gpm is fixed and the screensaver works fine now , no problems there
[17:40] <dashua> Hrm
[17:40] <dashua> I just get a black blank screen that is not asleep
[17:40] <mac_v> now the screen does go to sleep also.
[17:41] <dashua> Hrm ok, I don't really need g-p-m or haven't missed it thus far
[17:41] <mac_v> have you tried locking the screen?
[17:41] <dashua> I wish it would work though
[17:41] <mac_v> ;)
[17:41] <dashua> No, I didn't try that
[17:41] <dashua> Works fine on my netbook where I do need it to work
[17:42] <dashua> mac_v, Alright, lots of nice enhancements pushed to trunk
[17:42] <dashua> Now, I will mess the button icons
[17:42] <dashua> You guys are making this a killer theme :)
[17:46]  * dashua --> Lunch
[17:46] <dashua> Feel like MacSlow now ;)
[17:51] <SiDi_> dashua: /away /back
[17:51] <SiDi_> thanks :P
[18:01] <mac_v> phew... i feel much better after fixing the gpm icon problem! \o/ that drove me crazy
[18:05] <SiDi_> you ARE crazy
[18:39] <mrdoob> Another version...
[18:39] <mrdoob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257165&page=3
[18:48] <mac_v> mrdoob: the forums is not a good place for the mockups :( , it wont reach the devs
[18:49] <mrdoob> Yeah I can imagine, but I find the mailing lists tedious :(
[18:49] <mrdoob> maybe with a bit of luck
[18:49] <mrdoob> someone will repost on their list
[18:49] <mac_v> if you are willing to contact the ML , alone any time spent is useful , else its just for your timepass
[18:50] <mrdoob> :)
[18:50] <mrdoob> I pinged MadsRH, he'll consider it if he likes it
[18:51] <mrdoob> better than subscribing to a ML, posting and unsubscribing
[18:51] <mac_v> mrdoob: did madsRh do the first one?
[18:52] <mrdoob> as far as I know, yes
[18:52] <mrdoob> http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/08/ubiquity-slideshow-for-ubuntu.html
[18:53] <mac_v> mrdoob: man , you are lazier than me ;p
[18:54] <mrdoob> yeah
[18:55] <mrdoob> doing the bootscreen
[18:55] <mrdoob> I was told I should contact macslow
[18:55] <mrdoob> so he could let me know about the limitations
[18:55] <mrdoob> he never replied
[18:55] <mrdoob> the whole workflow is random
[18:55] <mac_v> mrdoob: i told you!
[18:55] <mrdoob> you told me he'll never reply?
[18:56] <mrdoob> or to contact him?
[18:56] <mac_v> mrdoob: people dont reply to mails unless they know who you are
[18:56] <mrdoob> haha
[18:56] <mrdoob> right
[18:56] <mrdoob> I do :P
[18:56] <mrdoob> oh well
[18:56] <mrdoob> bad luck
[18:56] <mac_v> u need to understand though you mean well , there are several who just spam!
[18:56] <knome> good evening
[18:56] <mac_v> since the email id in on the lp page
[18:57] <mac_v> knome: hola  ;)
[18:57] <knome> hello mac_v
[18:57] <mrdoob> yeah I understand that
[18:57] <mrdoob> but you know, I was linking to my work
[18:57] <knome> mac_v, is your nick pronounced like mac(gy)v(er)
[18:57] <mac_v> knome: hows the wallpaper coming?
[18:57] <mrdoob> I was kind of saying who I was, but well
[18:58] <knome> still http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/9.10/Mockups/06-hires.png
[18:58] <mrdoob> It'll last whatever it'll last
[18:58] <mac_v> knome: nope , it was an old one , it was supposed to mean mach 5
[18:58] <knome> a-ha!
[18:58] <knome> but should the v be a capital V in that case? :)
[18:58] <knome> *shouldn't
[18:59] <mac_V> better? ;)
[18:59] <knome> hehe yup ;)
[18:59] <knome> the romans had no "U" because it would have been too hard to write on a stone so it became just "V"
[19:00] <mac_V> interesting ... hm..
[19:01] <mac_V> yeah... thinking about it.... all the roman numerals are just scratches
[19:01] <knome> yup
[19:02] <mac_V> knome: hehe finally i ended making wireless icons for humanity ;p
[19:02] <knome> it's really intelligent otherwise as well as it uses minimum possible characters :P
[19:02] <knome> \o/
[19:02] <knome> i still haven't looked at humanity properly
[19:02] <knome> i should
[19:02] <mac_V> bzr branch lp:humanity
[19:03] <knome> i know
[19:03] <knome> i am not home right now
[19:03] <mac_V> oh
[19:03] <mac_V> the icon set is awesome , but i'v only done the panel icons
[19:04] <knome> yeah, SiDi is talking about it all the time
[19:04] <knome> ;)
[19:04] <mac_V> the funny thing was until today he didnt know who made them
[19:04] <knome> haha
[19:04] <mac_V> he kept constantly asking kwwii "you are the author of humanity, right?"
[19:04] <knome> he definitely is a funny guy
[19:04] <mac_V> kwwii never replied
[19:05] <mac_V> even worse was i was discussing the icons constantly in #ayatana with Daniel and SiDi_ was ther so many times
[19:05] <mac_V> he just never realized it ;p
[19:05] <knome> hehe
[19:05] <knome> SiDi, you are dumb!
[19:05] <knome> :P
[19:06] <mrdoob> bye people
[19:06] <mac_V> mrdoob: bye
[19:06] <mac_V> mrdoob: contact madsRH
[19:07] <mac_V> damn it SiDi missed all the trash we talked about him!
[19:07] <mac_V> his stupid connection!
[19:07] <knome> :D
[19:07] <knome> yup
[19:08] <knome> i can repeat it to him tonight
[19:08] <SiDi> OKEY
[19:08] <mac_V> lullaby ? ;p
[19:08] <knome> sure
[19:08] <knome> :P
[19:08]  * SiDi goes get angry kitten launcher
[19:09] <mac_V> where is kwwii ?
[19:09] <knome> SiDi, my mother now has a cat here
[19:09] <mac_V> missing his bot
[19:09] <knome> SiDi, let me remind you, the cat is totally scared of me *buahaha*
[19:10] <mac_V> lol
[19:10]  * SiDi goes get his angry t-rex launcher
[19:10] <knome> haha
[19:10]  * SiDi pms cody-somerville to ask him to upload a BROWN theme for Xubuntu !
[19:10] <knome> i've never heard of an alive t-rex :P
[19:10] <SiDi> you can be angry AND dead
[19:10] <knome> SiDi, hah, cody wouldn't do that ;)
[19:11] <knome> SiDi, on the other hand, if he did, he'd know i'd bug him EVERY day about BZR and stuff ;)
[19:11] <knome> and he's scared of *that*
[19:11] <SiDi> you'd have an heart attack
[19:11] <SiDi> in green + fuschia
[19:11] <SiDi> that'd kill you
[19:12] <knome> no, i'd just change my distro
[19:12] <knome> o.o
[19:12] <knome> and the all lot of you would cry :P
[19:12] <knome> especially you;)
[19:13] <knome> (i wouldn't be telling you about new bands anymore :P)
[19:14] <SiDi> OKEY
[19:14] <SiDi> i'll paint your house in PINKthen
[19:14] <SiDi> ha !
[19:14] <SiDi> and i'll broadcast some R&B music in your living room !
[19:15] <knome> YAY
[19:15] <knome> r&b is not bad
[19:15] <knome> and our white walls acutally need some color
[19:15] <knome> ;)
[19:15] <knome> you see, there's no way to hurt me ;)
[19:15] <SiDi> haha
[19:15] <knome> i'm so open to new things
[19:52] <SiDi> mac_v: Celeste has actually not commented the feature itself :P
[19:53] <mac_v> SiDi: i have recieved personal mail from her!
[19:53] <SiDi> aw ! :P
[19:56] <mac_v> SiDi: the mailman is slow , so you might not have recieved it
[20:19] <mac_v> SiDi: the volume mute has been edited
[20:21] <SiDi> mac_v: it lacks a cross :d
[20:21] <mac_v> yup , no cross ;p
[20:22] <mac_v> *every* theme does that!