sybariten | durt: will look into that | 00:02 |
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MastaAce | hi | 00:56 |
MastaAce | anybody out there? | 00:57 |
sybariten | yeah | 01:25 |
MTec007 | how do i fix this? it happens quite often http://pastebin.com/m1911f4c0 | 02:36 |
Techie | have you tried apt-get update? | 02:42 |
MTec007 | yeah but it doesnt fix the problem, it only temporarily goes away | 02:46 |
Techie | have you tried googling it? | 02:48 |
Techie | or checking on the forums? | 02:48 |
MTec007 | Techie, sorry. do you have any ideas for me? | 03:05 |
Techie | umm, not really... i havent worked with aptitude entries in so long, so i cant remember much about them | 03:06 |
MTec007 | ok | 03:06 |
Techie | but | 03:06 |
Techie | its telling you that you have 2 entries in your apt-get sources that are identicle | 03:07 |
MTec007 | yeah | 03:07 |
Techie | i dont exactly have an *buntu machine here with me so gimme a minute while i ssh to a server in australia and find the location | 03:07 |
Techie | okay | 03:08 |
Techie | your magic file is located at /etc/apt.sources.list it would seem | 03:08 |
Techie | check that for a duplicate entry for http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages | 03:09 |
MTec007 | i dont have that at all | 03:11 |
MTec007 | could it be from when i added google chrome to my sources? | 03:11 |
Techie | possibly | 03:11 |
MTec007 | where would that be? | 03:12 |
MTec007 | its not in /etc/apt/sources.list | 03:12 |
Techie | http://pastebin.com/m1a1f8e52 | 03:12 |
Techie | i would think it would be the same between xubuntu and ubuntu server edition | 03:13 |
MTec007 | seems like it | 03:15 |
MTec007 | i have this file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list | 03:15 |
MTec007 | which contains deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main | 03:15 |
Techie | shouldnt make a difference | 03:16 |
MTec007 | i also have this file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list.save | 03:17 |
MTec007 | maybe thats the problem. i dont know | 03:17 |
Techie | the error is very clear about the double entry | 03:20 |
Techie | its just a matter of finding where the second entry is and removing it | 03:20 |
MTec007 | right | 03:25 |
MTec007 | but the main problem is the duplicate entry comes back, even after apt-get update fixes it | 03:26 |
Techie | hrmm | 03:26 |
MTec007 | im at a loss here | 03:30 |
Techie | me too | 03:36 |
rubenset | whatsup! | 04:13 |
rubenset | hi people | 04:13 |
Techie | heya rubenset | 04:14 |
rubenset | kde fail U_U | 04:14 |
rubenset | xfce forever | 04:15 |
Techie | lol | 04:15 |
rubenset | xDDD | 04:15 |
Techie | explorer.exe FTW | 04:15 |
Techie | xD | 04:15 |
rubenset | pidgin forever | 04:15 |
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Guest76437 | how do I get my sound card to work with this freshly installed xubuntu | 06:55 |
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Name141 | Is there a .2 for the LTS ? | 13:27 |
Name141 | 8.04.2 ? | 13:27 |
Name141 | Or is .1 the latest Xubuntu release that is Hardy | 13:27 |
Sysi | .3 if i remember right | 13:27 |
knome | !hardy | 13:27 |
ubottu | Ubuntu 8.04-LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04 - See !lts for more details. | 13:28 |
knome | hmm | 13:28 |
Name141 | that's ubuntu | 13:28 |
Name141 | AKA: slowbuntu | 13:28 |
knome | i think .1 is the latest xubuntu | 13:28 |
Sysi | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219580 | 13:29 |
Name141 | Sysi: Doesn't appear that there is one to download then ? | 13:30 |
* Name141 imagines at tons of updates that he will have to get once he installs it | 13:34 | |
Sysi | "I recently downloaded and installed the newer version. When you do the download the ISO file should say 8.04.3" | 13:34 |
Sysi | i still think there are hunreds of updates | 13:34 |
Name141 | :-/ | 13:35 |
Name141 | http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.04.1/release/xubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ? | 13:35 |
Sysi | dunno if netinstall or pxeboot could get newest about everything | 13:35 |
Name141 | I'm in XP now. Thinking about changing back over to Hardy | 13:36 |
Sysi | i wonder how long support it still have | 13:36 |
Name141 | I don't know, but Interpid and Jaunty blows | 13:36 |
Name141 | The NIC support about died | 13:37 |
Name141 | I filed a bug report with nothing resolved | 13:37 |
Sysi | maube on karmic | 13:37 |
Sysi | there's a lot newer kernel | 13:38 |
Sysi | it's not stable yet but it may will work | 13:38 |
Name141 | karmic ? | 13:38 |
Name141 | The e1000e module works fine for my NIC in Hardy | 13:39 |
Name141 | or did | 13:39 |
Name141 | But in Intrepid+ , it just sits there and twinkles (at the router light) | 13:39 |
Name141 | and never connects | 13:39 |
Name141 | I can remove and then modprobe e1000e , and sometimes it reconnects | 13:40 |
aladoin | I'm looking for a lightweight movie collection manager, which can scan my hdd's for videos, it should not be something advanced like xmbc, just a lightweight app, any suggestions? | 13:50 |
SiDi_ | Name141: where did you file the bug ? | 13:59 |
Name141 | eh.. bugzilla ? | 13:59 |
Name141 | or something | 13:59 |
SiDi_ | bugzilla.kernel.org ? | 13:59 |
* Name141 shrugs | 13:59 | |
Name141 | !bugs | 13:59 |
ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 13:59 |
Name141 | that | 13:59 |
SiDi_ | Can you point me to that bug report ? | 13:59 |
Name141 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/408351 | 14:01 |
Name141 | SiDi_: that one | 14:02 |
SiDi_ | Thanks | 14:04 |
Name141 | SiDi_: It seemed that everyone with my computer had the issue | 14:04 |
Name141 | Or atleast in some places I looked | 14:04 |
Name141 | it also didn't work in Fedora 10 | 14:05 |
Name141 | (properly) | 14:05 |
SiDi_ | !info linux hardy | 14:12 |
SiDi_ | !info linux intrepid | 14:12 |
ubottu | linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.24.24.26 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB | 14:12 |
ubottu | linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.27.14.18 (intrepid), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB | 14:12 |
SiDi_ | http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 Name141 :) | 14:12 |
Name141 | SiDi_: that's right | 14:14 |
Name141 | SiDi_: they don't appear to have a fix? | 14:15 |
SiDi_ | no, but they seem to have identified the issue at least | 14:16 |
SiDi_ | im linking your report to theirs, to avoid duplicates. Please read the whole comments and see if there is any further information they need | 14:16 |
Name141 | SiDi_: I heard of 'ndiswrapper' , would it be possible to use the windows drivers ? | 14:16 |
Name141 | even though it's wired | 14:16 |
SiDi_ | yes it would | 14:17 |
SiDi_ | but before doing that, make sure to provide to the kernel developers any information they may need to fix it :) | 14:17 |
Name141 | I assume that they are working on it ? | 14:17 |
SiDi_ | they probably are | 14:18 |
SiDi_ | your bug was filed a month ago in ubuntu and there are about 2300 bug reports opened | 14:18 |
SiDi_ | so its completely normal that it didnt get any attention yet :) | 14:18 |
SiDi_ | (5700 opened, 2300 new, actually) | 14:19 |
Name141 | OK, so maybe I should try the next LTS? | 14:20 |
SiDi_ | You could stay on Hardy and use PPAs and backports for now, i think | 14:20 |
SiDi_ | i dont know if it will be fixed in karmic, as the kernel there is quite advanced already and as there is no fix yet in kernel.org for your bug | 14:21 |
SiDi_ | but i think it should be fixed by the next LTS, which is in ~8 months | 14:21 |
Name141 | OK, I guess I can download live disks and see how they run | 14:21 |
Name141 | as the errors appear in live sessions too | 14:21 |
Ruien | Hey all. Anyone here experienced in "apt-get source" installations with no root password, installing under fakeroot? | 15:37 |
SuperUser|David | hi. does anyone know a syntax highlighting text editor for xubuntu? | 15:59 |
SiDi | Ruien: what do you mean ? | 16:00 |
SiDi | SuperUser|David: go for gedit or geany | 16:00 |
SuperUser|David | SiDi, ok, will try, thanks | 16:00 |
SiDi | Ruien: if you mean installing from source, usually the source has an INSTALL file, and a README file too, with instructions | 16:00 |
SiDi | the vast majority of projects uses ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make | 16:01 |
SiDi | then you can just use your binary as is if you're not root, or install it in your home | 16:01 |
SiDi | (./configure --prefix=/home/yourname/your_path/ && make install) | 16:01 |
Ruien | right, and that will fail, because the said program probably has uninstalled dependencies. Apt-get normally takes care of that for you, but you need to be root. Supposing you don't have access to a root account, can apt-get be of help in providing the dependencies? I will know my --prefix (--prefix=$HOME/env) | 16:03 |
SiDi | It won't fail because if you're building from source it's your own responsability to fetch the dependencies. Which usually are listed in README or DEPS file in the tarball (or in debian/control for source packages fetched with apt-get source) | 16:04 |
SiDi | and, you cant install deps without being root | 16:04 |
SuperUser|David | SiDi, it is gedit for me, thanks | 16:04 |
SiDi | unless you install them locally and modify your XDG environment variables a bit | 16:05 |
SiDi | SuperUser|David: great :) | 16:05 |
Ruien | right, and that README file isn't recursive. Apt-get already has an internal system to handle this, so I am asking if there is a way to take advantage of it when building from source, but i see what you mean | 16:06 |
SiDi | apt is a front-end to dpkg, which handles _packages_ | 16:07 |
SiDi | not libraries | 16:07 |
SiDi | You can modify source packages to build them in your home | 16:07 |
SuperUser|David | can you have different background images on different workspaces? | 16:07 |
SiDi | but you'll be stuck for the deps too | 16:07 |
SiDi | you'll have to do it for each dependency too | 16:07 |
SiDi | and you'll have to tell your system where to look for these deps | 16:08 |
SiDi | (by modifying some environment variables containing the path to the config files / libraries / include files / binaries, but i dont remember all of them) | 16:08 |
Ruien | right, it's just a lot of manual labor. I was just checking to see if someone making apt-get had done some of that recursive dependency-listing work since it already handles dependencies with binary packages. | 16:09 |
SiDi | i dont think it can do that | 16:10 |
Ruien | maybe adding that into apt-get isn't as simple as I had imagined. It sure seems pretty straightforward though | 16:10 |
Ruien | yeah, thanks for your input though, i appreciate it | 16:10 |
SiDi | but you might be able to use apt-get with the download option to fetch the deps, then modify the packages on-the-fly with a script to change the place where to install them, fetch their deps with the download option too, etc, recursively in a big and complex bash script | 16:11 |
SiDi | i think its just insame :p email your administrator instead :p | 16:11 |
Ruien | i am the administrator! i want to make a cool way for users to install programs into their home directory under $HOME/env | 16:12 |
Ruien | i'm open to writing a script to do that, and i'll look into the apt-get download options as you suggest | 16:12 |
SiDi | i think you should get some packaging background though, that'll help you much :) | 16:13 |
SiDi | i'm a total noob in packaging | 16:13 |
Ruien | yeah me too! | 16:14 |
SiDi | maybe you can do it w/out apt-get download btw | 16:14 |
Ruien | oh, i have | 16:14 |
SiDi | if you want to install package X which depends on Y and Z, for instance | 16:14 |
SiDi | apt-get source X | 16:14 |
SiDi | then use a script to parse debian/control of the source tarball | 16:14 |
SiDi | then apt-get source X and Y | 16:15 |
Ruien | debian/control? I thought it would have been in debian/rules ? I'm pretty new to dpkg | 16:15 |
SiDi | (Y and Z i meant), then change the install prefix of Y and Z, and build them | 16:15 |
SiDi | debian/control lists the deps | 16:15 |
SiDi | debian/rules tells how to build the binary packages | 16:15 |
Ruien | ohh okay, so debian/contol was what i was looking for initially. I just don't understand enough about dpkg that i'm asking the wrong questions | 16:16 |
SiDi | once they are built, you need to build X, but your script should find a way to properly export the path to your new deps | 16:16 |
Ruien | right, as long as the installation is standard, that should be possible | 16:16 |
SuperUser|David | hello again. how do i get different background images for different workspaces? | 16:18 |
Ruien | SiDi: for future reference if you ever deal with dependencies, someone made the program to do the recursive dependency thing you thought up: check out "apt-rdepends". Pretty slick | 16:21 |
SiDi | oh, great | 16:27 |
SiDi | SuperUser|David: i think you cant :p | 16:27 |
slow-motion | hi | 17:52 |
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Naunaud | Hello | 20:06 |
Naunaud | does anybody know a way to remap a dead key on my keyboard? | 20:07 |
Naunaud | i need the "; ." key to be called from another key like F9 or some unused key in general | 20:07 |
Naunaud | I tried with xmodmap, and it works, but only for one keycode at a time | 20:08 |
Naunaud | so, I cannot do the Shift_L + new key to have the other keycode... | 20:08 |
SiDi | Naunaud: hi | 20:11 |
SiDi | Can you show me the command you use so far ? | 20:11 |
Naunaud | hi SiDi | 20:11 |
Naunaud | xmodmap -e "keycode 75 = 46" | 20:12 |
Naunaud | which set the "." to the F9 key | 20:12 |
Naunaud | xmodmap -e "keycode 75 = 59" => this one is for ";" | 20:12 |
SiDi | What about using xmodmap keysym instead ? | 20:12 |
SiDi | So you can redirect the F9 keysym to the . keysym independently of modifiers | 20:12 |
Naunaud | so basically, I'd need those to on F9, but with the normal behavior ";" would be normal and Shift_L or R + F9 would give me "." | 20:12 |
Naunaud | Could you show me with an example SiDi? | 20:13 |
SiDi | Naunaud: i cant :P | 20:17 |
SiDi | Just check the manual of xmodmap | 20:18 |
SiDi | ah damn, xmodmap did work | 20:18 |
SiDi | now i cant tzpe z | 20:18 |
SiDi | Naunaud: just replace keycode by keysym and it should work | 20:20 |
SiDi | i do have Shift+z turning into Y if i bind z to y with xmodmad -e "keysym 122 = 121" | 20:20 |
Naunaud | all right | 20:22 |
Naunaud | I'll test | 20:22 |
Name141 | SiDi: I see that the bug report was changed to "linux" instead of Ubuntu | 20:23 |
SiDi | Name141: you reported to the linux package in Ubuntu | 20:24 |
SiDi | (the linux package contains the Linux kernel) | 20:24 |
SiDi | i reported it against linux itself, and linked to the bug report in linux's own bug tracker (http://bugzilla.kernel.org) | 20:24 |
Name141 | OK. I suppose people know about it atleast. | 20:24 |
Name141 | OK. | 20:24 |
Name141 | It sounds like it's a wide spread problem anyway. | 20:24 |
Name141 | seeing as Fedora didn't work either | 20:24 |
SiDi | Now all we have to do is wait for a linux developer to fix it | 20:24 |
Name141 | AKA: about 9 years? | 20:25 |
Name141 | Or is that just Microsoft | 20:25 |
SiDi | Yeh, many problems are widespread; But there is a lot of hardware and not many developers. | 20:25 |
SiDi | Depends... some bugs have been opened for much more than 9 years :p | 20:25 |
Name141 | LOL | 20:25 |
SiDi | other ones got fixed in days.. :P | 20:25 |
SiDi | you should expect it to be fixed in karmic +1 imo | 20:25 |
Name141 | What is "karmic" ? | 20:26 |
Name141 | The ubuntu coming ? | 20:26 |
SiDi | the next ubuntu version coming in october | 20:26 |
Name141 | oh | 20:26 |
Name141 | I would assume that STEAM works well in WINE along with the Half-Life series ? | 20:26 |
SiDi | It works. I dont know if it works _well_ | 20:27 |
SiDi | Someone stole my steam account years ago so i dont really use it now :P | 20:27 |
Name141 | Well it don't work "_well_" in XP from what I've seen. Sometimes I get off the game and BOOM! Bluescreen about nVidia's dll | 20:27 |
SiDi | haha | 20:27 |
Name141 | SiDi: Would #ubuntu+1 have any idea if that bug would be being fixed? | 20:29 |
SiDi | Nope, Name141 | 20:31 |
SiDi | I don't think it's fixed yet, otherwise it would be marked as fixed on kernel.org | 20:31 |
Name141 | Oh yeah. | 20:31 |
SiDi | And, your problem is widespread, but your network chipset is just one among others | 20:31 |
SiDi | you have little to no chance to find help outside of specialised channels | 20:31 |
Name141 | I assume that I'm not the only one with a Dell Inspiron 530, yeah lol. And whatever else it's being used in. | 20:32 |
SiDi | It seems to hit T61 and vostro 200 too, but thats still not many people in #xubuntu or #ubuntu+1 :) | 20:33 |
SuperUser|David | hi. how do i use gpp with geany? | 20:35 |
Naunaud | SiDi, "keysym 122 = 121" => 122 and 121 are decimal values? | 20:35 |
SiDi | Naunaud: it was an exemple, dont use these | 20:36 |
SiDi | unless you wanna say goodbye to your Z key :D | 20:36 |
SiDi | but yes, its decimal values | 20:36 |
Naunaud | Well, I tested it =D | 20:36 |
Naunaud | Had to reboot though... | 20:36 |
Naunaud | As my ; . is dead on the concerned computer, I don't know how to find the good value... | 20:37 |
Naunaud | all I have are keycode values of ; and . separetely | 20:38 |
SiDi | use these keycodes | 20:41 |
Naunaud | Well, it doesn't work SiDi, it seems that the shift key is ignored in fact... | 20:53 |
Naunaud | Hey caps lock works! | 20:53 |
Naunaud | YEAH | 20:53 |
Naunaud | thanks SiDi ^^ | 20:53 |
Naunaud | mm | 20:58 |
Naunaud | It only works with your keycode, SiDi | 20:58 |
Naunaud | oO | 20:58 |
SiDi | hm :P | 20:59 |
SiDi | you should write a custom keyboard layout | 20:59 |
Naunaud | 122 works on F9, i can type z with F9 and Z with caps lock + F9 | 20:59 |
SiDi | yeh but i suppose its because caps lock + F9 doesnt make sense, so caps lock + . cant be turned into that | 21:00 |
Naunaud | Yeah, I read about that, but I'm not skilled enough for that task :p | 21:00 |
SiDi | or something like that | 21:00 |
SiDi | it's not as hard as it looks | 21:00 |
SiDi | just copy /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/mycustomlayout | 21:00 |
SiDi | then you just have a copy paste to do in the file to modify the place of the . ; key | 21:01 |
SiDi | and if i didnt forget anything it should work :p | 21:02 |
Naunaud | ok, I'll try that :p | 21:03 |
Naunaud | I have the line with the semicolon and the period, but I don't get what to do with them | 21:08 |
Naunaud | there are nothing related to functions keys | 21:08 |
SiDi_ | find the line with F9 | 21:11 |
SiDi_ | and put the semicolon and period instead | 21:12 |
Naunaud | I found F9, but it's in srvr_ctrl... | 21:16 |
* SiDi_ thinks Naunaud will buy a new keyboard monday | 21:18 | |
Naunaud | xD | 21:19 |
Naunaud | for a laptop? :s | 21:19 |
SiDi_ | haha :D | 21:19 |
SiDi_ | contact your manufacturer | 21:19 |
SiDi_ | when i broke my keyboard i whined at dell.fr and i got a new one the next day ! (but ive got a pro warranty :p) | 21:19 |
knome | SiDi_, :P | 21:20 |
Naunaud | I don't have the money to put in a keyboard, I contacted them once and it would have cost me 20€ for the keyb itself and then 25€ for shipping... (from holland to belgium...) | 21:20 |
Naunaud | and my lappy is 5 years old :D | 21:20 |
SiDi_ | oh :P | 21:20 |
Naunaud | no warranty for him :p | 21:20 |
SiDi_ | buy a new lappy for 30 € then :D | 21:20 |
Naunaud | lol | 21:20 |
Naunaud | I remaped the fuckin dead key to another key in my beCustom layout | 21:22 |
Naunaud | how do I activate this layout? | 21:22 |
SiDi_ | hm | 21:23 |
SiDi_ | setxkbmap <filename> | 21:23 |
Naunaud | okay, thank you SiDi_ ^^ | 21:23 |
Naunaud | You're the man :x | 21:23 |
SiDi_ | :P | 21:23 |
SiDi_ | It works ? | 21:23 |
Naunaud | I'm rebooting now | 21:23 |
Naunaud | I like to reboot | 21:23 |
Naunaud | :s | 21:24 |
SiDi_ | you dont need to reboot :P | 21:24 |
Naunaud | favourite sport | 21:24 |
SiDi_ | if it doesnt work instantly it means it doesnt work :P | 21:24 |
Naunaud | Well some keys were still fucked up with xmodmap | 21:24 |
Naunaud | :s | 21:24 |
* SiDi_ learnt that because he wanted a custom keyboard layout for ET:QW :P | 21:24 | |
SiDi_ | it'll be fixed with setxkbmap | 21:24 |
SiDi_ | xmodmap modifies the keyboard map, but setxkbmap completely reinitializes it with a new layout | 21:24 |
Naunaud | gee, I had to re-reboot, forgot to select xubuntu and it booted OS X :s | 21:25 |
Naunaud | all right then, there we go for the setxkbmap | 21:25 |
* SiDi_ prays the god of kittens for it to work | 21:25 | |
Naunaud | Error loading new keyboard description | 21:26 |
knome | SiDi_, http://i29.tinypic.com/29qcoly.jpg | 21:26 |
Naunaud | WHAT THE HELL :o | 21:26 |
Naunaud | You forgot to pray :s | 21:27 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: ok, thats what i thought | 21:27 |
SiDi_ | you have to tell it you added a keyboard layout | 21:27 |
SiDi_ | and guess what : i forgot how | 21:27 |
SiDi_ | :D | 21:27 |
Naunaud | lol | 21:27 |
Naunaud | nice =D | 21:27 |
SiDi_ | knome: do you want an stegosaukitten ? | 21:27 |
knome | SiDi_, not meh | 21:27 |
knome | SiDi_, that's my mothers cat | 21:28 |
SiDi_ | is a cute kitteh | 21:28 |
Naunaud | mkdir /var/lib/xkb | 21:28 |
Naunaud | ? | 21:28 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: definately not that | 21:28 |
Naunaud | All right | 21:30 |
Naunaud | It's working | 21:30 |
Naunaud | the first time I specified the complete path | 21:30 |
Naunaud | and it seems it"s not needed :s | 21:30 |
Naunaud | it fails when you specify it... | 21:30 |
SiDi_ | yeh, its only the file name inside the directory sorry | 21:32 |
SiDi_ | like, fr, be, etc | 21:32 |
jiohdi3 | I have my settings for left handed mouse... but when it starts it is acting right handed.... I have to manually change it to right and then back to left for it to work, what up with that? | 21:32 |
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Naunaud | SiDi_, I think I know how to bind my key to F9, as I ran setxkbmap in verbose, I saw what other symbols file he joined with my custom layout, so, I can modify them (after backing em up of course) | 21:35 |
SiDi_ | hm yeh | 21:36 |
SiDi_ | that can be a more radical option | 21:36 |
Naunaud | I like radical =D | 21:36 |
Naunaud | Doesn't seem to work | 21:39 |
Naunaud | I'll stick with my hack :o | 21:40 |
Naunaud | now I can type . was a little harsh to have to cp it in an editor everytime :s | 21:41 |
SiDi_ | hehe indeed | 21:41 |
Naunaud | but I guess I won't code anymore on this laptop :s | 21:43 |
Naunaud | thank you for the help SiDi_ :p | 21:43 |
Naunaud | je peux te dire merci, tu comprendras aussi je suppose ^^ | 21:43 |
dylan_ | I have a intel video card, and Im not sure how to get the drivers, | 22:07 |
dylan_ | any suggestions ? | 22:07 |
Sysi | you have they alredy | 22:08 |
Sysi | intel drivers are open | 22:08 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: you're welcome ;) | 22:09 |
Sysi | but there are major changes going on with them | 22:09 |
SiDi_ | dylan_: hello, what xubuntu version ? | 22:09 |
dylan_ | SiDi_, 9.04 | 22:10 |
Naunaud | oh btw SiDi_, can you confirm me that Sigmatel 9200 cards are a pain in the ass to get working on Xubuntu? It's working out of the box with Ubuntu live CD 9.04, but not Xubuntu 9.04, any ideas? :D | 22:11 |
SiDi_ | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html | 22:11 |
dylan_ | everything seems slow when I move windows around the screen | 22:11 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio && killall pulseaudio ? :) | 22:11 |
SiDi_ | these cards work very well, Naunaud | 22:11 |
Naunaud | let met reboot under Xubuntu to test that :D | 22:11 |
SiDi_ | dylan_: its because Intel released _crappy_ drivers for the version of X.org in jaunty | 22:11 |
dylan_ | so is there a way to get the good drivers ? | 22:12 |
SiDi_ | using the link above, you can try to install newer versions of these drivers. it should be safe but in case of problems there is no official support of course :D | 22:12 |
dylan_ | thanks SiDi_ | 22:12 |
Naunaud | SiDi_ | 22:16 |
Naunaud | Do I have to reboot? | 22:16 |
Naunaud | he said that no process was killed | 22:16 |
Naunaud | maybe | 22:16 |
Naunaud | lulz | 22:16 |
Naunaud | wasn't installed | 22:16 |
Naunaud | -_- | 22:16 |
Naunaud | gee | 22:16 |
Naunaud | kill me | 22:16 |
Naunaud | :s | 22:16 |
knome | !flood | 22:17 |
ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic | 22:17 |
knome | mhh, that was not the right one | 22:17 |
knome | !enter | Naunaud | 22:17 |
ubottu | Naunaud: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 22:17 |
Naunaud | oups | 22:17 |
Naunaud | sorry | 22:17 |
Naunaud | I'll try to keep that in mind, I was caught by my utter idiocy | 22:18 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: it was just ranting from me | 22:18 |
SiDi_ | What laptop model do you have exactly ? | 22:19 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/audio_intel_hda | 22:19 |
SiDi_ | check this out, its all there | 22:19 |
SiDi_ | And describe exactly whats not working too please :) | 22:19 |
Naunaud | don't laugh :D it's an acer TravelMate 3002 WTMi, never failed me (except when I recently spit water on they keyboard and ended up with my ;. key dead) | 22:19 |
dylan_ | SiDi_, ok so I followed that link and upgraded the xorg drivers (intel) to 2.2.7.1 | 22:20 |
dylan_ | now it sais to enable "uxa" | 22:20 |
dylan_ | but in my xorg.conf file, It doesnt even state that its using the intel drivers | 22:20 |
dylan_ | http://pastebin.ca/1555340 | 22:21 |
SiDi_ | Tell it that its what its using then :P | 22:21 |
SiDi_ | (i really meant that i could not provide support for it btw. I _only_ buy nvidia cards) | 22:21 |
dylan_ | nvidia is definately the best but this computer does not have a agp or pci-e slot | 22:22 |
dylan_ | only pci | 22:22 |
SiDi_ | Just paste the whole device section | 22:22 |
dylan_ | under "device" it says "configured video device" thats it | 22:23 |
dylan_ | should I change that to "intel" ? | 22:23 |
dylan_ | I changed my xorg.conf, now it looks like this http://pastebin.ca/1555343 | 22:24 |
SiDi_ | dylan_: replace the device section with the one proposed in the tutorial | 22:24 |
SiDi_ | "Please be sure that VideoRam matching the ram of Video card based on what you calculate above. Of course the option UXA is mandatory too." | 22:25 |
dylan_ | SiDi_, how do I tell how much ram the video card has ??? | 22:26 |
dylan_ | this is the video card 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) | 22:28 |
SiDi_ | google says 64MB | 22:31 |
SiDi_ | up to you to trust google; | 22:31 |
dylan_ | its a intel p4 so I can't see it being 32mb | 22:32 |
Naunaud | SiDi_? | 22:37 |
SiDi_ | SiDi_ is currently rebooting his brain. SiDi_ will be available again in a few weeks. | 22:37 |
Naunaud | can't I just do a codec dump on a ubuntu live cd and somehow import it on my xubuntu? | 22:37 |
Naunaud | lol, ok :p | 22:37 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: you still didnt describe me the bug with your sound card :D | 22:38 |
Naunaud | there's no sound :s | 22:38 |
Naunaud | at all | 22:38 |
Naunaud | I can play with the mixer | 22:38 |
Naunaud | but that doesn't do anything | 22:39 |
Naunaud | the speaker is grayed | 22:39 |
SiDi_ | okey | 22:39 |
SiDi_ | thats a funny bug | 22:39 |
SiDi_ | so aptitude isnt running, right ? | 22:39 |
SiDi_ | pulseaudio | 22:40 |
SiDi_ | not aptitude | 22:40 |
SiDi_ | see, i'm tired | 22:40 |
Naunaud | well | 22:40 |
Naunaud | nothing is killed when I try to kill it ^^ | 22:40 |
SiDi_ | Did you perform that tutorial i posted above to make sure the model used is the one for your hardware ? | 22:40 |
SiDi_ | (and honnestly, why the hell did you buy an acer laptop ? >_>) | 22:41 |
Naunaud | well my model is not there :s | 22:41 |
Naunaud | (shush, it's a good machine) | 22:41 |
SiDi_ | TravelMate ALC260/ALC883/ALC888 options snd-hda-intel model=acer | 22:41 |
SiDi_ | [23:20] <Naunaud> don't laugh :D it's an acer TravelMate 3002 WTMi | 22:41 |
Naunaud | yes, of course, but the card is listed as STAC92xx | 22:42 |
Naunaud | not ALCxxx | 22:42 |
SiDi_ | try still please | 22:42 |
SiDi_ | but before | 22:42 |
SiDi_ | open up xfce4-mixer, click on properties, check all boxes, then max out the volume of all tracks and make sure they're all unmuted | 22:42 |
Naunaud | All right I have some sound now | 22:45 |
Naunaud | but the speaker is still light grey | 22:45 |
SiDi_ | I assume the issue was that the master track had been muted by you ? :D | 22:45 |
SiDi_ | What do you mean by light grey speaker ? | 22:46 |
Naunaud | Well, it's very visible :o maybe it's the default icon, I don't know, but when something it means deactivated for me | 22:47 |
SiDi_ | Screenshotplease :) | 22:47 |
SiDi_ | if you mean the panel mixer icon, just right click it, go into properties, choose the card/track you want it to manage, click ok | 22:48 |
SiDi_ | and then scroll it | 22:48 |
SiDi_ | and then send me some cookies please :P | 22:48 |
Naunaud | Oh yeah =D | 22:49 |
dylan_ | SiDi_, | 22:49 |
dylan_ | I tried lspci -vv to get the ram for the video card | 22:50 |
dylan_ | http://pastebin.ca/1555377 | 22:50 |
Naunaud | thank you SiDi_ :x | 22:50 |
SiDi_ | Naunaud: shall i PM you my address for the cookies ? | 22:51 |
dylan_ | actually trying to get the non-prefetchable memory | 22:51 |
dylan_ | but 128mb for prefetchable doesnt seem right | 22:51 |
Naunaud | Huhu, SiDi_, I don't bake cookies :o | 22:51 |
dylan_ | I can't see this video card being 128mb. Maybe I am wrong, can you check that pastebin link I sent you ? | 22:51 |
SiDi_ | dylan_: 128 sounds a lot to me too for this card | 22:52 |
SiDi_ | but if its what it says... | 22:52 |
SiDi_ | the problem is that there isnt even accurate info on intel.com x_x | 22:52 |
dylan_ | well that lspci -vv is supposed to tell you | 22:52 |
SiDi_ | i found 64 after a quick google search, i know there is a website that has accurate info about all GPUs but i forgot its name :/ | 22:52 |
dylan_ | lspci -vv -> http://pastebin.ca/1555377 | 22:53 |
dylan_ | not sure where to look in that | 22:53 |
SiDi_ | i read your pastebin already | 22:53 |
SiDi_ | Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] | 22:54 |
SiDi_ | it says 128 | 22:54 |
SiDi_ | that sounds a lot to me but why not | 22:54 |
dylan_ | ok I am going to configure the xorg.conf for 128 then | 22:54 |
Naunaud | I can have 128Mo on my GMA 900, it's taking off the main memory.. | 22:54 |
SiDi_ | hm | 22:54 |
SiDi_ | okey actually its wrong dylan_ | 22:55 |
SiDi_ | take 64 | 22:55 |
SiDi_ | mine reports 256, so as Naunaud said thats the ram it takes from your physical ram | 22:55 |
SiDi_ | we're interested into the VRAM inside your GPU | 22:55 |
SiDi_ | it should be 64 | 22:55 |
SiDi_ | if you're not sure, put 32, that'll be safer | 22:55 |
* SiDi_ is now absent | 22:57 | |
Naunaud | good night SiDi_, I'm off too | 22:58 |
Naunaud | thanks for your help | 22:58 |
Naunaud | much appreciated | 22:58 |
dylan_ | SiDi_, I am going to make a xorg.conf for 128 mb and a second for 64 and a third for 32 | 22:59 |
dylan_ | that way when they don't work I can switch from one to the other | 22:59 |
SiDi_ | dylan_: good idea | 23:00 |
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