[00:02] <sybariten> durt: will look into that
[00:56] <MastaAce> hi
[00:57] <MastaAce> anybody out there?
[01:25] <sybariten> yeah
[02:36] <MTec007> how do i fix this? it happens quite often http://pastebin.com/m1911f4c0
[02:42] <Techie> have you tried apt-get update?
[02:46] <MTec007> yeah but it doesnt fix the problem, it only temporarily goes away
[02:48] <Techie> have you tried googling it?
[02:48] <Techie> or checking on the forums?
[03:05] <MTec007> Techie, sorry. do you have any ideas for me?
[03:06] <Techie> umm, not really... i havent worked with aptitude entries in so long, so i cant remember much about them
[03:06] <MTec007> ok
[03:06] <Techie> but
[03:07] <Techie> its telling you that you have 2 entries in your apt-get sources that are identicle
[03:07] <MTec007> yeah
[03:07] <Techie> i dont exactly have an *buntu machine here with me so gimme a minute while i ssh to a server in australia and find the location
[03:08] <Techie> okay
[03:08] <Techie> your magic file is located at /etc/apt.sources.list it would seem
[03:09] <Techie> check that for a duplicate entry for http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages
[03:11] <MTec007> i dont have that at all
[03:11] <MTec007> could it be from when i added google chrome to my sources?
[03:11] <Techie> possibly
[03:12] <MTec007> where would that be?
[03:12] <MTec007> its not in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:12] <Techie> http://pastebin.com/m1a1f8e52
[03:13] <Techie> i would think it would be the same between xubuntu and ubuntu server edition
[03:15] <MTec007> seems like it
[03:15] <MTec007> i have this file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
[03:15] <MTec007> which contains deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main
[03:16] <Techie> shouldnt make a difference
[03:17] <MTec007> i also have this file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list.save
[03:17] <MTec007> maybe thats the problem. i dont know
[03:20] <Techie> the error is very clear about the double entry
[03:20] <Techie> its just a matter of finding where the second entry is and removing it
[03:25] <MTec007> right
[03:26] <MTec007> but the main problem is the duplicate entry comes back, even after apt-get update fixes it
[03:26] <Techie> hrmm
[03:30] <MTec007> im at a loss here
[03:36] <Techie> me too
[04:13] <rubenset> whatsup!
[04:13] <rubenset> hi people
[04:14] <Techie> heya rubenset
[04:14] <rubenset> kde fail U_U
[04:15] <rubenset> xfce forever
[04:15] <Techie> lol
[04:15] <rubenset> xDDD
[04:15] <Techie> explorer.exe FTW
[04:15] <Techie> xD
[04:15] <rubenset> pidgin forever
[06:55] <Guest76437> how do I get my sound card to work with this freshly installed xubuntu
[13:27] <Name141> Is there a .2 for the LTS ?
[13:27] <Name141> 8.04.2 ?
[13:27] <Name141> Or is .1 the latest Xubuntu release that is Hardy
[13:27] <Sysi> .3 if i remember right
[13:27] <knome> !hardy
[13:28] <knome> hmm
[13:28] <Name141> that's ubuntu
[13:28] <Name141> AKA: slowbuntu
[13:28] <knome> i think .1 is the latest xubuntu
[13:29] <Sysi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219580
[13:30] <Name141> Sysi: Doesn't appear that there is one to download then ?
[13:34]  * Name141 imagines at tons of updates that he will have to get once he installs it
[13:34] <Sysi> "I recently downloaded and installed the newer version. When you do the download the ISO file should say 8.04.3"
[13:34] <Sysi> i still think there are hunreds of updates
[13:35] <Name141> :-/
[13:35] <Name141> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.04.1/release/xubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ?
[13:35] <Sysi> dunno if netinstall or pxeboot could get newest about everything
[13:36] <Name141> I'm in XP now.  Thinking about changing back over to Hardy
[13:36] <Sysi> i wonder how long support it still have
[13:36] <Name141> I don't know, but Interpid and Jaunty blows
[13:37] <Name141> The NIC support about died
[13:37] <Name141> I filed a bug report with nothing resolved
[13:37] <Sysi> maube on karmic
[13:38] <Sysi> there's a lot newer kernel
[13:38] <Sysi> it's not stable yet but it may will work
[13:38] <Name141> karmic ?
[13:39] <Name141> The e1000e module works fine for my NIC in Hardy
[13:39] <Name141> or did
[13:39] <Name141> But in Intrepid+ , it just sits there and twinkles (at the router light)
[13:39] <Name141> and never connects
[13:40] <Name141> I can remove and then modprobe e1000e , and sometimes it reconnects
[13:50] <aladoin> I'm looking for a lightweight movie collection manager, which can scan my hdd's for videos, it should not be something advanced like xmbc, just a lightweight app, any suggestions?
[13:59] <SiDi_> Name141: where did you file the bug ?
[13:59] <Name141> eh.. bugzilla ?
[13:59] <Name141> or something
[13:59] <SiDi_> bugzilla.kernel.org ?
[13:59]  * Name141 shrugs
[13:59] <Name141> !bugs
[13:59] <Name141> that
[13:59] <SiDi_> Can you point me to that bug report ?
[14:01] <Name141> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/408351
[14:02] <Name141> SiDi_: that one
[14:04] <SiDi_> Thanks
[14:04] <Name141> SiDi_: It seemed that everyone with my computer had the issue
[14:04] <Name141> Or atleast in some places I looked
[14:05] <Name141> it also didn't work in Fedora 10
[14:05] <Name141> (properly)
[14:12] <SiDi_> !info linux hardy
[14:12] <SiDi_> !info linux intrepid
[14:12] <SiDi_> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 Name141 :)
[14:14] <Name141> SiDi_: that's right
[14:15] <Name141> SiDi_: they don't appear to have a fix?
[14:16] <SiDi_> no, but they seem to have identified the issue at least
[14:16] <SiDi_> im linking your report to theirs, to avoid duplicates. Please read the whole comments and see if there is any further information they need
[14:16] <Name141> SiDi_: I heard of 'ndiswrapper' , would it be possible to use the windows drivers ?
[14:16] <Name141> even though it's wired
[14:17] <SiDi_> yes it would
[14:17] <SiDi_> but before doing that, make sure to provide to the kernel developers any information they may need to fix it :)
[14:17] <Name141> I assume that they are working on it ?
[14:18] <SiDi_> they probably are
[14:18] <SiDi_> your bug was filed a month ago in ubuntu and there are about 2300 bug reports opened
[14:18] <SiDi_> so its completely normal that it didnt get any attention yet :)
[14:19] <SiDi_> (5700 opened, 2300 new, actually)
[14:20] <Name141> OK, so maybe I should try the next LTS?
[14:20] <SiDi_> You could stay on Hardy and use PPAs and backports for now, i think
[14:21] <SiDi_> i dont know if it will be fixed in karmic, as the kernel there is quite advanced already and as there is no fix yet in kernel.org for your bug
[14:21] <SiDi_> but i think it should be fixed by the next LTS, which is in ~8 months
[14:21] <Name141> OK, I guess I can download live disks and see how they run
[14:21] <Name141> as the errors appear in live sessions too
[15:37] <Ruien> Hey all. Anyone here experienced in "apt-get source" installations with no root password, installing under fakeroot?
[15:59] <SuperUser|David> hi. does anyone know a syntax highlighting text editor for xubuntu?
[16:00] <SiDi> Ruien: what do you mean ?
[16:00] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: go for gedit or geany
[16:00] <SuperUser|David> SiDi, ok, will try, thanks
[16:00] <SiDi> Ruien: if you mean installing from source, usually the source has an INSTALL file, and a README file too, with instructions
[16:01] <SiDi> the vast majority of projects uses ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make
[16:01] <SiDi> then you can just use your binary as is if you're not root, or install it in your home
[16:01] <SiDi> (./configure --prefix=/home/yourname/your_path/ && make install)
[16:03] <Ruien> right, and that will fail, because the said program probably has uninstalled dependencies. Apt-get normally takes care of that for you, but you need to be root. Supposing you don't have access to a root account, can apt-get be of help in providing the dependencies? I will know my --prefix (--prefix=$HOME/env)
[16:04] <SiDi> It won't fail because if you're building from source it's your own responsability to fetch the dependencies. Which usually are listed in README or DEPS file in the tarball (or in debian/control for source packages fetched with apt-get source)
[16:04] <SiDi> and, you cant install deps without being root
[16:04] <SuperUser|David> SiDi, it is gedit for me, thanks
[16:05] <SiDi> unless you install them locally and modify your XDG environment variables a bit
[16:05] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: great :)
[16:06] <Ruien> right, and that README file isn't recursive. Apt-get already has an internal system to handle this, so I am asking if there is a way to take advantage of it when building from source, but i see what you mean
[16:07] <SiDi> apt is a front-end to dpkg, which handles _packages_
[16:07] <SiDi> not libraries
[16:07] <SiDi> You can modify source packages to build them in your home
[16:07] <SuperUser|David> can you have different background images on different workspaces?
[16:07] <SiDi> but you'll be stuck for the deps too
[16:07] <SiDi> you'll have to do it for each dependency too
[16:08] <SiDi> and you'll have to tell your system where to look for these deps
[16:08] <SiDi> (by modifying some environment variables containing the path to the config files / libraries / include files / binaries, but i dont remember all of them)
[16:09] <Ruien> right, it's just a lot of manual labor. I was just checking to see if someone making apt-get had done some of that recursive dependency-listing work since it already handles dependencies with binary packages.
[16:10] <SiDi> i dont think it can do that
[16:10] <Ruien> maybe adding that into apt-get isn't as simple as I had imagined. It sure seems pretty straightforward though
[16:10] <Ruien> yeah, thanks for your input though, i appreciate it
[16:11] <SiDi> but you might be able to use apt-get with the download option to fetch the deps, then modify the packages on-the-fly with a script to change the place where to install them, fetch their deps with the download option too, etc, recursively in a big and complex bash script
[16:11] <SiDi> i think its just insame :p email your administrator instead :p
[16:12] <Ruien> i am the administrator! i want to make a cool way for users to install programs into their home directory under $HOME/env
[16:12] <Ruien> i'm open to writing a script to do that, and i'll look into the apt-get download options as you suggest
[16:13] <SiDi> i think you should get some packaging background though, that'll help you much :)
[16:13] <SiDi> i'm a total noob in packaging
[16:14] <Ruien> yeah me too!
[16:14] <SiDi> maybe you can do it w/out apt-get download btw
[16:14] <Ruien> oh, i have
[16:14] <SiDi> if you want to install package X which depends on Y and Z, for instance
[16:14] <SiDi> apt-get source X
[16:14] <SiDi> then use a script to parse debian/control of the source tarball
[16:15] <SiDi> then apt-get source X and Y
[16:15] <Ruien> debian/control? I thought it would have been in debian/rules ? I'm pretty new to dpkg
[16:15] <SiDi> (Y and Z i meant), then change the install prefix of Y and Z, and build them
[16:15] <SiDi> debian/control lists the deps
[16:15] <SiDi> debian/rules tells how to build the binary packages
[16:16] <Ruien> ohh okay, so debian/contol was what i was looking for initially. I just don't understand enough about dpkg that i'm asking the wrong questions
[16:16] <SiDi> once they are built, you need to build X, but your script should find a way to properly export the path to your new deps
[16:16] <Ruien> right, as long as the installation is standard, that should be possible
[16:18] <SuperUser|David> hello again. how do i get different background images for different workspaces?
[16:21] <Ruien> SiDi: for future reference if you ever deal with dependencies, someone made the program to do the recursive dependency thing you thought up: check out "apt-rdepends". Pretty slick
[16:27] <SiDi> oh, great
[16:27] <SiDi> SuperUser|David: i think you cant :p
[17:52] <slow-motion> hi
[20:06] <Naunaud> Hello
[20:07] <Naunaud> does anybody know a way to remap a dead key on my keyboard?
[20:07] <Naunaud> i need the "; ." key to be called from another key like F9 or some unused key in general
[20:08] <Naunaud> I tried with xmodmap, and it works, but only for one keycode at a time
[20:08] <Naunaud> so, I cannot do the Shift_L + new key to have the other keycode...
[20:11] <SiDi> Naunaud: hi
[20:11] <SiDi> Can you show me the command you use so far ?
[20:11] <Naunaud> hi SiDi
[20:12] <Naunaud> xmodmap -e "keycode 75 = 46"
[20:12] <Naunaud> which set the "." to the F9 key
[20:12] <Naunaud> xmodmap -e "keycode 75 = 59" => this one is for ";"
[20:12] <SiDi> What about using xmodmap keysym instead ?
[20:12] <SiDi> So you can redirect the F9 keysym to the . keysym independently of modifiers
[20:12] <Naunaud> so basically, I'd need those to on F9, but with the normal behavior ";" would be normal and Shift_L or R + F9 would give me "."
[20:13] <Naunaud> Could you show me with an example SiDi?
[20:17] <SiDi> Naunaud: i cant :P
[20:18] <SiDi> Just check the manual of xmodmap
[20:18] <SiDi> ah damn, xmodmap did work
[20:18] <SiDi> now i cant tzpe z
[20:20] <SiDi> Naunaud: just replace keycode by keysym and it should work
[20:20] <SiDi> i do have Shift+z turning into Y if i bind z to y with xmodmad -e "keysym 122 = 121"
[20:22] <Naunaud> all right
[20:22] <Naunaud> I'll test
[20:23] <Name141> SiDi: I see that the bug report was changed  to "linux" instead of Ubuntu
[20:24] <SiDi> Name141: you reported to the linux package in Ubuntu
[20:24] <SiDi> (the linux package contains the Linux kernel)
[20:24] <SiDi> i reported it against linux itself, and linked to the bug report in linux's own bug tracker (http://bugzilla.kernel.org)
[20:24] <Name141> OK. I suppose people know about it atleast.
[20:24] <Name141> OK.
[20:24] <Name141> It sounds like it's a wide spread problem anyway.
[20:24] <Name141> seeing as Fedora didn't work either
[20:24] <SiDi> Now all we have to do is wait for a linux developer to fix it
[20:25] <Name141> AKA: about 9 years?
[20:25] <Name141> Or is that just Microsoft
[20:25] <SiDi> Yeh, many problems are widespread; But there is a lot of hardware and not many developers.
[20:25] <SiDi> Depends... some bugs have been opened for much more than 9 years :p
[20:25] <Name141> LOL
[20:25] <SiDi> other ones got fixed in days.. :P
[20:25] <SiDi> you should expect it to be fixed in karmic +1 imo
[20:26] <Name141> What is "karmic" ?
[20:26] <Name141> The ubuntu coming ?
[20:26] <SiDi> the next ubuntu version coming in october
[20:26] <Name141> oh
[20:26] <Name141> I would assume that STEAM works well in WINE along with the Half-Life series ?
[20:27] <SiDi> It works. I dont know if it works _well_
[20:27] <SiDi> Someone stole my steam account years ago so i dont really use it now :P
[20:27] <Name141> Well it don't work "_well_" in XP from what I've seen.  Sometimes I get off the game and BOOM! Bluescreen about nVidia's dll
[20:27] <SiDi> haha
[20:29] <Name141> SiDi: Would #ubuntu+1 have any idea if that bug would be being fixed?
[20:31] <SiDi> Nope, Name141
[20:31] <SiDi> I don't think it's fixed yet, otherwise it would be marked as fixed on kernel.org
[20:31] <Name141> Oh yeah.
[20:31] <SiDi> And, your problem is widespread, but your network chipset is just one among others
[20:31] <SiDi> you have little to no chance to find help outside of specialised channels
[20:32] <Name141> I assume that I'm not the only one with a Dell Inspiron 530, yeah lol.  And whatever else it's being used in.
[20:33] <SiDi> It seems to hit T61 and vostro 200 too, but thats still not many people in #xubuntu or #ubuntu+1 :)
[20:35] <SuperUser|David> hi. how do i use gpp with geany?
[20:35] <Naunaud> SiDi, "keysym 122 = 121" => 122 and 121 are decimal values?
[20:36] <SiDi> Naunaud: it was an exemple, dont use these
[20:36] <SiDi> unless you wanna say goodbye to your Z key :D
[20:36] <SiDi> but yes, its decimal values
[20:36] <Naunaud> Well, I tested it =D
[20:36] <Naunaud> Had to reboot though...
[20:37] <Naunaud> As my ; . is dead on the concerned computer, I don't know how to find the good value...
[20:38] <Naunaud> all I have are keycode values of ; and . separetely
[20:41] <SiDi> use these keycodes
[20:53] <Naunaud> Well, it doesn't work SiDi, it seems that the shift key is ignored in fact...
[20:53] <Naunaud> Hey caps lock works!
[20:53] <Naunaud> YEAH
[20:53] <Naunaud> thanks SiDi ^^
[20:58] <Naunaud> mm
[20:58] <Naunaud> It only works with your keycode, SiDi
[20:58] <Naunaud> oO
[20:59] <SiDi> hm :P
[20:59] <SiDi> you should write a custom keyboard layout
[20:59] <Naunaud> 122 works on F9, i can type z with F9 and Z with caps lock + F9
[21:00] <SiDi> yeh but i suppose its because caps lock + F9 doesnt make sense, so caps lock + . cant be turned into that
[21:00] <Naunaud> Yeah, I read about that, but I'm not skilled enough for that task :p
[21:00] <SiDi> or something like that
[21:00] <SiDi> it's not as hard as it looks
[21:00] <SiDi> just copy /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/mycustomlayout
[21:01] <SiDi> then you just have a copy paste to do in the file to modify the place of the . ; key
[21:02] <SiDi> and if i didnt forget anything it should work :p
[21:03] <Naunaud> ok, I'll try that :p
[21:08] <Naunaud> I have the line with the semicolon and the period, but I don't get what to do with them
[21:08] <Naunaud> there are nothing related to functions keys
[21:11] <SiDi_> find the line with F9
[21:12] <SiDi_> and put the semicolon and period instead
[21:16] <Naunaud> I found F9, but it's in srvr_ctrl...
[21:18]  * SiDi_ thinks Naunaud will buy a new keyboard monday
[21:19] <Naunaud> xD
[21:19] <Naunaud> for a laptop? :s
[21:19] <SiDi_> haha :D
[21:19] <SiDi_> contact your manufacturer
[21:19] <SiDi_> when i broke my keyboard i whined at dell.fr and i got a new one the next day ! (but ive got a pro warranty :p)
[21:20] <knome> SiDi_, :P
[21:20] <Naunaud> I don't have the money to put in a keyboard, I contacted them once and it would have cost me 20€ for the keyb itself and then 25€ for shipping... (from holland to belgium...)
[21:20] <Naunaud> and my lappy is 5 years old :D
[21:20] <SiDi_> oh :P
[21:20] <Naunaud> no warranty for him :p
[21:20] <SiDi_> buy a new lappy for 30 € then :D
[21:20] <Naunaud> lol
[21:22] <Naunaud> I remaped the fuckin dead key to another key in my beCustom layout
[21:22] <Naunaud> how do I activate this layout?
[21:23] <SiDi_> hm
[21:23] <SiDi_> setxkbmap <filename>
[21:23] <Naunaud> okay, thank you SiDi_ ^^
[21:23] <Naunaud> You're the man :x
[21:23] <SiDi_> :P
[21:23] <SiDi_> It works ?
[21:23] <Naunaud> I'm rebooting now
[21:23] <Naunaud> I like to reboot
[21:24] <Naunaud> :s
[21:24] <SiDi_> you dont need to reboot :P
[21:24] <Naunaud> favourite sport
[21:24] <SiDi_> if it doesnt work instantly it means it doesnt work :P
[21:24] <Naunaud> Well some keys were still fucked up with xmodmap
[21:24] <Naunaud> :s
[21:24]  * SiDi_ learnt that because he wanted a custom keyboard layout for ET:QW :P
[21:24] <SiDi_> it'll be fixed with setxkbmap
[21:24] <SiDi_> xmodmap modifies the keyboard map, but setxkbmap completely reinitializes it with a new layout
[21:25] <Naunaud> gee, I had to re-reboot, forgot to select xubuntu and it booted OS X :s
[21:25] <Naunaud> all right then, there we go for the setxkbmap
[21:25]  * SiDi_ prays the god of kittens for it to work
[21:26] <Naunaud> Error loading new keyboard description
[21:26] <knome> SiDi_, http://i29.tinypic.com/29qcoly.jpg
[21:26] <Naunaud> WHAT THE HELL :o
[21:27] <Naunaud> You forgot to pray :s
[21:27] <SiDi_> Naunaud: ok, thats what i thought
[21:27] <SiDi_> you have to tell it you added a keyboard layout
[21:27] <SiDi_> and guess what : i forgot how
[21:27] <SiDi_> :D
[21:27] <Naunaud> lol
[21:27] <Naunaud> nice =D
[21:27] <SiDi_> knome: do you want an stegosaukitten ?
[21:27] <knome> SiDi_, not meh
[21:28] <knome> SiDi_, that's my mothers cat
[21:28] <SiDi_> is a cute kitteh
[21:28] <Naunaud> mkdir /var/lib/xkb
[21:28] <Naunaud> ?
[21:28] <SiDi_> Naunaud: definately not that
[21:30] <Naunaud> All right
[21:30] <Naunaud> It's working
[21:30] <Naunaud> the first time I specified the complete path
[21:30] <Naunaud> and it seems it"s not needed :s
[21:30] <Naunaud> it fails when you specify it...
[21:32] <SiDi_> yeh, its only the file name inside the directory sorry
[21:32] <SiDi_> like, fr, be, etc
[21:32] <jiohdi3> I have my settings for left handed mouse... but when it starts it is acting right handed.... I have to manually change it to right and then back to left for it to work, what up with that?
[21:35] <Naunaud> SiDi_, I think I know how to bind my key to F9, as I ran setxkbmap in verbose, I saw what other symbols file he joined with my custom layout, so, I can modify them (after backing em up of course)
[21:36] <SiDi_> hm yeh
[21:36] <SiDi_> that can be a more radical option
[21:36] <Naunaud> I like radical =D
[21:39] <Naunaud> Doesn't seem to work
[21:40] <Naunaud> I'll stick with my hack :o
[21:41] <Naunaud> now I can type . was a little harsh to have to cp it in an editor everytime :s
[21:41] <SiDi_> hehe indeed
[21:43] <Naunaud> but I guess I won't code anymore on this laptop :s
[21:43] <Naunaud> thank you for the help SiDi_ :p
[21:43] <Naunaud> je peux te dire merci, tu comprendras aussi je suppose ^^
[22:07] <dylan_> I have a intel video card, and Im not sure how to get the drivers,
[22:07] <dylan_> any suggestions ?
[22:08] <Sysi> you have they alredy
[22:08] <Sysi> intel drivers are open
[22:09] <SiDi_> Naunaud: you're welcome ;)
[22:09] <Sysi> but there are major changes going on with them
[22:09] <SiDi_> dylan_: hello, what xubuntu version ?
[22:10] <dylan_> SiDi_, 9.04
[22:11] <Naunaud> oh btw SiDi_, can you confirm me that Sigmatel 9200 cards are a pain in the ass to get working on Xubuntu? It's working out of the box with Ubuntu live CD 9.04, but not Xubuntu 9.04, any ideas? :D
[22:11] <SiDi_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[22:11] <dylan_> everything seems slow when I move windows around the screen
[22:11] <SiDi_> Naunaud: sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio && killall pulseaudio ? :)
[22:11] <SiDi_> these cards work very well, Naunaud
[22:11] <Naunaud> let met reboot under Xubuntu to test that :D
[22:11] <SiDi_> dylan_: its because Intel released _crappy_ drivers for the version of X.org in jaunty
[22:12] <dylan_> so is there a way to get the good drivers ?
[22:12] <SiDi_> using the link above, you can try to install newer versions of these drivers. it should be safe but in case of problems there is no official support of course :D
[22:12] <dylan_> thanks SiDi_
[22:16] <Naunaud> SiDi_
[22:16] <Naunaud> Do I have to reboot?
[22:16] <Naunaud> he said that no process was killed
[22:16] <Naunaud> maybe
[22:16] <Naunaud> lulz
[22:16] <Naunaud> wasn't installed
[22:16] <Naunaud> -_-
[22:16] <Naunaud> gee
[22:16] <Naunaud> kill me
[22:16] <Naunaud> :s
[22:17] <knome> !flood
[22:17] <knome> mhh, that was not the right one
[22:17] <knome> !enter | Naunaud
[22:17] <Naunaud> oups
[22:17] <Naunaud> sorry
[22:18] <Naunaud> I'll try to keep that in mind, I was caught by my utter idiocy
[22:18] <SiDi_> Naunaud: it was just ranting from me
[22:19] <SiDi_> What laptop model do you have exactly ?
[22:19] <SiDi_> Naunaud: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/audio_intel_hda
[22:19] <SiDi_> check this out, its all there
[22:19] <SiDi_> And describe exactly whats not working too please :)
[22:19] <Naunaud> don't laugh :D it's an acer TravelMate 3002 WTMi, never failed me (except when I recently spit water on they keyboard and ended up with my ;. key dead)
[22:20] <dylan_> SiDi_, ok so I followed that link and upgraded the xorg drivers (intel) to 2.2.7.1
[22:20] <dylan_> now it sais to enable "uxa"
[22:20] <dylan_> but in my xorg.conf file, It doesnt even state that its using the intel drivers
[22:21] <dylan_> http://pastebin.ca/1555340
[22:21] <SiDi_> Tell it that its what its using then :P
[22:21] <SiDi_> (i really meant that i could not provide support for it btw. I _only_ buy nvidia cards)
[22:22] <dylan_> nvidia is definately the best but this computer does not have a agp or pci-e slot
[22:22] <dylan_> only pci
[22:22] <SiDi_> Just paste the whole device section
[22:23] <dylan_> under "device" it says "configured video device" thats it
[22:23] <dylan_> should I change that to "intel" ?
[22:24] <dylan_> I changed my xorg.conf, now it looks like this     http://pastebin.ca/1555343
[22:24] <SiDi_> dylan_: replace the device section with the one proposed in the tutorial
[22:25] <SiDi_> "Please be sure that VideoRam matching the ram of Video card based on what you calculate above. Of course the option UXA is mandatory too."
[22:26] <dylan_> SiDi_, how do I tell how much ram the video card has ???
[22:28] <dylan_> this is the video card       82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:31] <SiDi_> google says 64MB
[22:31] <SiDi_> up to you to trust google;
[22:32] <dylan_> its a intel p4 so I can't see it being 32mb
[22:37] <Naunaud> SiDi_?
[22:37] <SiDi_> SiDi_ is currently rebooting his brain. SiDi_ will be available again in a few weeks.
[22:37] <Naunaud> can't I just do a codec dump on a ubuntu live cd and somehow import it on my xubuntu?
[22:37] <Naunaud> lol, ok :p
[22:38] <SiDi_> Naunaud: you still didnt describe me the bug with your sound card :D
[22:38] <Naunaud> there's no sound :s
[22:38] <Naunaud> at all
[22:38] <Naunaud> I can play with the mixer
[22:39] <Naunaud> but that doesn't do anything
[22:39] <Naunaud> the speaker is grayed
[22:39] <SiDi_> okey
[22:39] <SiDi_> thats a funny bug
[22:39] <SiDi_> so aptitude isnt running, right ?
[22:40] <SiDi_> pulseaudio
[22:40] <SiDi_> not aptitude
[22:40] <SiDi_> see, i'm tired
[22:40] <Naunaud> well
[22:40] <Naunaud> nothing is killed when I try to kill it ^^
[22:40] <SiDi_> Did you perform that tutorial i posted above to make sure the model used is the one for your hardware ?
[22:41] <SiDi_> (and honnestly, why the hell did you buy an acer laptop ? >_>)
[22:41] <Naunaud> well my model is not there :s
[22:41] <Naunaud> (shush, it's a good machine)
[22:41] <SiDi_> TravelMate	 ALC260/ALC883/ALC888	 options snd-hda-intel model=acer
[22:41] <SiDi_> [23:20] <Naunaud> don't laugh :D it's an acer TravelMate 3002 WTMi
[22:42] <Naunaud> yes, of course, but the card is listed as STAC92xx
[22:42] <Naunaud> not ALCxxx
[22:42] <SiDi_> try still please
[22:42] <SiDi_> but before
[22:42] <SiDi_> open up xfce4-mixer, click on properties, check all boxes, then max out the volume of all tracks and make sure they're all unmuted
[22:45] <Naunaud> All right I have some sound now
[22:45] <Naunaud> but the speaker is still light grey
[22:45] <SiDi_> I assume the issue was that the master track had been muted by you ? :D
[22:46] <SiDi_> What do you mean by light grey speaker ?
[22:47] <Naunaud> Well, it's very visible :o maybe it's the default icon, I don't know, but when something it means deactivated for me
[22:47] <SiDi_> Screenshotplease :)
[22:48] <SiDi_> if you mean the panel mixer icon, just right click it, go into properties, choose the card/track you want it to manage, click ok
[22:48] <SiDi_> and then scroll it
[22:48] <SiDi_> and then send me some cookies please :P
[22:49] <Naunaud> Oh yeah =D
[22:49] <dylan_> SiDi_,
[22:50] <dylan_> I tried lspci -vv to get the ram for the video card
[22:50] <dylan_> http://pastebin.ca/1555377
[22:50] <Naunaud> thank you SiDi_ :x
[22:51] <SiDi_> Naunaud: shall i PM you my address for the cookies ?
[22:51] <dylan_> actually trying to get the non-prefetchable memory
[22:51] <dylan_> but 128mb for prefetchable doesnt seem right
[22:51] <Naunaud> Huhu, SiDi_, I don't bake cookies :o
[22:51] <dylan_> I can't see this video card being 128mb. Maybe I am wrong, can you check that pastebin link I sent you ?
[22:52] <SiDi_> dylan_: 128 sounds a lot to me too for this card
[22:52] <SiDi_> but if its what it says...
[22:52] <SiDi_> the problem is that there isnt even accurate info on intel.com x_x
[22:52] <dylan_> well that lspci -vv is supposed to tell you
[22:52] <SiDi_> i found 64 after a quick google search, i know there is a website that has accurate info about all GPUs but i forgot its name :/
[22:53] <dylan_> lspci -vv  ->  http://pastebin.ca/1555377
[22:53] <dylan_> not sure where to look in that
[22:53] <SiDi_> i read your pastebin already
[22:54] <SiDi_> Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
[22:54] <SiDi_> it says 128
[22:54] <SiDi_> that sounds a lot to me but why not
[22:54] <dylan_> ok I am going to configure the xorg.conf for 128 then
[22:54] <Naunaud> I can have 128Mo on my GMA 900, it's taking off the main memory..
[22:54] <SiDi_> hm
[22:55] <SiDi_> okey actually its wrong dylan_
[22:55] <SiDi_> take 64
[22:55] <SiDi_> mine reports 256, so as Naunaud said thats the ram it takes from your physical ram
[22:55] <SiDi_> we're interested into the VRAM inside your GPU
[22:55] <SiDi_> it should be 64
[22:55] <SiDi_> if you're not sure, put 32, that'll be safer
[22:57]  * SiDi_ is now absent
[22:58] <Naunaud> good night SiDi_, I'm off too
[22:58] <Naunaud> thanks for your help
[22:58] <Naunaud> much appreciated
[22:59] <dylan_> SiDi_, I am going to make a xorg.conf for 128 mb and a second for 64 and a third for 32
[22:59] <dylan_> that way when they don't work I can switch from one to the other
[23:00] <SiDi_> dylan_: good idea