[00:02] durt: will look into that [00:56] hi [00:57] anybody out there? [01:25] yeah [02:36] how do i fix this? it happens quite often http://pastebin.com/m1911f4c0 [02:42] have you tried apt-get update? [02:46] yeah but it doesnt fix the problem, it only temporarily goes away [02:48] have you tried googling it? [02:48] or checking on the forums? [03:05] Techie, sorry. do you have any ideas for me? [03:06] umm, not really... i havent worked with aptitude entries in so long, so i cant remember much about them [03:06] ok [03:06] but [03:07] its telling you that you have 2 entries in your apt-get sources that are identicle [03:07] yeah [03:07] i dont exactly have an *buntu machine here with me so gimme a minute while i ssh to a server in australia and find the location [03:08] okay [03:08] your magic file is located at /etc/apt.sources.list it would seem [03:09] check that for a duplicate entry for http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages [03:11] i dont have that at all [03:11] could it be from when i added google chrome to my sources? [03:11] possibly [03:12] where would that be? [03:12] its not in /etc/apt/sources.list [03:12] http://pastebin.com/m1a1f8e52 [03:13] i would think it would be the same between xubuntu and ubuntu server edition [03:15] seems like it [03:15] i have this file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list [03:15] which contains deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main [03:16] shouldnt make a difference [03:17] i also have this file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list.save [03:17] maybe thats the problem. i dont know [03:20] the error is very clear about the double entry [03:20] its just a matter of finding where the second entry is and removing it [03:25] right [03:26] but the main problem is the duplicate entry comes back, even after apt-get update fixes it [03:26] hrmm [03:30] im at a loss here [03:36] me too [04:13] whatsup! [04:13] hi people [04:14] heya rubenset [04:14] kde fail U_U [04:15] xfce forever [04:15] lol [04:15] xDDD [04:15] explorer.exe FTW [04:15] xD [04:15] pidgin forever === patrick is now known as Guest76437 [06:55] how do I get my sound card to work with this freshly installed xubuntu === patrick is now known as Guest46395 === patrick is now known as Guest34673 === jussi01 is now known as _ === _ is now known as jussi01 [13:27] Is there a .2 for the LTS ? [13:27] 8.04.2 ? [13:27] Or is .1 the latest Xubuntu release that is Hardy [13:27] .3 if i remember right [13:27] !hardy [13:28] Ubuntu 8.04-LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04 - See !lts for more details. [13:28] hmm [13:28] that's ubuntu [13:28] AKA: slowbuntu [13:28] i think .1 is the latest xubuntu [13:29] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219580 [13:30] Sysi: Doesn't appear that there is one to download then ? [13:34] * Name141 imagines at tons of updates that he will have to get once he installs it [13:34] "I recently downloaded and installed the newer version. When you do the download the ISO file should say 8.04.3" [13:34] i still think there are hunreds of updates [13:35] :-/ [13:35] http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.04.1/release/xubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ? [13:35] dunno if netinstall or pxeboot could get newest about everything [13:36] I'm in XP now. Thinking about changing back over to Hardy [13:36] i wonder how long support it still have [13:36] I don't know, but Interpid and Jaunty blows [13:37] The NIC support about died [13:37] I filed a bug report with nothing resolved [13:37] maube on karmic [13:38] there's a lot newer kernel [13:38] it's not stable yet but it may will work [13:38] karmic ? [13:39] The e1000e module works fine for my NIC in Hardy [13:39] or did [13:39] But in Intrepid+ , it just sits there and twinkles (at the router light) [13:39] and never connects [13:40] I can remove and then modprobe e1000e , and sometimes it reconnects [13:50] I'm looking for a lightweight movie collection manager, which can scan my hdd's for videos, it should not be something advanced like xmbc, just a lightweight app, any suggestions? [13:59] Name141: where did you file the bug ? [13:59] eh.. bugzilla ? [13:59] or something [13:59] bugzilla.kernel.org ? [13:59] * Name141 shrugs [13:59] !bugs [13:59] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [13:59] that [13:59] Can you point me to that bug report ? [14:01] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/408351 [14:02] SiDi_: that one [14:04] Thanks [14:04] SiDi_: It seemed that everyone with my computer had the issue [14:04] Or atleast in some places I looked [14:05] it also didn't work in Fedora 10 [14:05] (properly) [14:12] !info linux hardy [14:12] !info linux intrepid [14:12] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.24.24.26 (hardy), package size 25 kB, installed size 52 kB [14:12] linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.27.14.18 (intrepid), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB [14:12] http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11998 Name141 :) [14:14] SiDi_: that's right [14:15] SiDi_: they don't appear to have a fix? [14:16] no, but they seem to have identified the issue at least [14:16] im linking your report to theirs, to avoid duplicates. Please read the whole comments and see if there is any further information they need [14:16] SiDi_: I heard of 'ndiswrapper' , would it be possible to use the windows drivers ? [14:16] even though it's wired [14:17] yes it would [14:17] but before doing that, make sure to provide to the kernel developers any information they may need to fix it :) [14:17] I assume that they are working on it ? [14:18] they probably are [14:18] your bug was filed a month ago in ubuntu and there are about 2300 bug reports opened [14:18] so its completely normal that it didnt get any attention yet :) [14:19] (5700 opened, 2300 new, actually) [14:20] OK, so maybe I should try the next LTS? [14:20] You could stay on Hardy and use PPAs and backports for now, i think [14:21] i dont know if it will be fixed in karmic, as the kernel there is quite advanced already and as there is no fix yet in kernel.org for your bug [14:21] but i think it should be fixed by the next LTS, which is in ~8 months [14:21] OK, I guess I can download live disks and see how they run [14:21] as the errors appear in live sessions too [15:37] Hey all. Anyone here experienced in "apt-get source" installations with no root password, installing under fakeroot? [15:59] hi. does anyone know a syntax highlighting text editor for xubuntu? [16:00] Ruien: what do you mean ? [16:00] SuperUser|David: go for gedit or geany [16:00] SiDi, ok, will try, thanks [16:00] Ruien: if you mean installing from source, usually the source has an INSTALL file, and a README file too, with instructions [16:01] the vast majority of projects uses ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make [16:01] then you can just use your binary as is if you're not root, or install it in your home [16:01] (./configure --prefix=/home/yourname/your_path/ && make install) [16:03] right, and that will fail, because the said program probably has uninstalled dependencies. Apt-get normally takes care of that for you, but you need to be root. Supposing you don't have access to a root account, can apt-get be of help in providing the dependencies? I will know my --prefix (--prefix=$HOME/env) [16:04] It won't fail because if you're building from source it's your own responsability to fetch the dependencies. Which usually are listed in README or DEPS file in the tarball (or in debian/control for source packages fetched with apt-get source) [16:04] and, you cant install deps without being root [16:04] SiDi, it is gedit for me, thanks [16:05] unless you install them locally and modify your XDG environment variables a bit [16:05] SuperUser|David: great :) [16:06] right, and that README file isn't recursive. Apt-get already has an internal system to handle this, so I am asking if there is a way to take advantage of it when building from source, but i see what you mean [16:07] apt is a front-end to dpkg, which handles _packages_ [16:07] not libraries [16:07] You can modify source packages to build them in your home [16:07] can you have different background images on different workspaces? [16:07] but you'll be stuck for the deps too [16:07] you'll have to do it for each dependency too [16:08] and you'll have to tell your system where to look for these deps [16:08] (by modifying some environment variables containing the path to the config files / libraries / include files / binaries, but i dont remember all of them) [16:09] right, it's just a lot of manual labor. I was just checking to see if someone making apt-get had done some of that recursive dependency-listing work since it already handles dependencies with binary packages. [16:10] i dont think it can do that [16:10] maybe adding that into apt-get isn't as simple as I had imagined. It sure seems pretty straightforward though [16:10] yeah, thanks for your input though, i appreciate it [16:11] but you might be able to use apt-get with the download option to fetch the deps, then modify the packages on-the-fly with a script to change the place where to install them, fetch their deps with the download option too, etc, recursively in a big and complex bash script [16:11] i think its just insame :p email your administrator instead :p [16:12] i am the administrator! i want to make a cool way for users to install programs into their home directory under $HOME/env [16:12] i'm open to writing a script to do that, and i'll look into the apt-get download options as you suggest [16:13] i think you should get some packaging background though, that'll help you much :) [16:13] i'm a total noob in packaging [16:14] yeah me too! [16:14] maybe you can do it w/out apt-get download btw [16:14] oh, i have [16:14] if you want to install package X which depends on Y and Z, for instance [16:14] apt-get source X [16:14] then use a script to parse debian/control of the source tarball [16:15] then apt-get source X and Y [16:15] debian/control? I thought it would have been in debian/rules ? I'm pretty new to dpkg [16:15] (Y and Z i meant), then change the install prefix of Y and Z, and build them [16:15] debian/control lists the deps [16:15] debian/rules tells how to build the binary packages [16:16] ohh okay, so debian/contol was what i was looking for initially. I just don't understand enough about dpkg that i'm asking the wrong questions [16:16] once they are built, you need to build X, but your script should find a way to properly export the path to your new deps [16:16] right, as long as the installation is standard, that should be possible [16:18] hello again. how do i get different background images for different workspaces? [16:21] SiDi: for future reference if you ever deal with dependencies, someone made the program to do the recursive dependency thing you thought up: check out "apt-rdepends". Pretty slick [16:27] oh, great [16:27] SuperUser|David: i think you cant :p [17:52] hi === hhlp_ is now known as hhlp [20:06] Hello [20:07] does anybody know a way to remap a dead key on my keyboard? [20:07] i need the "; ." key to be called from another key like F9 or some unused key in general [20:08] I tried with xmodmap, and it works, but only for one keycode at a time [20:08] so, I cannot do the Shift_L + new key to have the other keycode... [20:11] Naunaud: hi [20:11] Can you show me the command you use so far ? [20:11] hi SiDi [20:12] xmodmap -e "keycode 75 = 46" [20:12] which set the "." to the F9 key [20:12] xmodmap -e "keycode 75 = 59" => this one is for ";" [20:12] What about using xmodmap keysym instead ? [20:12] So you can redirect the F9 keysym to the . keysym independently of modifiers [20:12] so basically, I'd need those to on F9, but with the normal behavior ";" would be normal and Shift_L or R + F9 would give me "." [20:13] Could you show me with an example SiDi? [20:17] Naunaud: i cant :P [20:18] Just check the manual of xmodmap [20:18] ah damn, xmodmap did work [20:18] now i cant tzpe z [20:20] Naunaud: just replace keycode by keysym and it should work [20:20] i do have Shift+z turning into Y if i bind z to y with xmodmad -e "keysym 122 = 121" [20:22] all right [20:22] I'll test [20:23] SiDi: I see that the bug report was changed to "linux" instead of Ubuntu [20:24] Name141: you reported to the linux package in Ubuntu [20:24] (the linux package contains the Linux kernel) [20:24] i reported it against linux itself, and linked to the bug report in linux's own bug tracker (http://bugzilla.kernel.org) [20:24] OK. I suppose people know about it atleast. [20:24] OK. [20:24] It sounds like it's a wide spread problem anyway. [20:24] seeing as Fedora didn't work either [20:24] Now all we have to do is wait for a linux developer to fix it [20:25] AKA: about 9 years? [20:25] Or is that just Microsoft [20:25] Yeh, many problems are widespread; But there is a lot of hardware and not many developers. [20:25] Depends... some bugs have been opened for much more than 9 years :p [20:25] LOL [20:25] other ones got fixed in days.. :P [20:25] you should expect it to be fixed in karmic +1 imo [20:26] What is "karmic" ? [20:26] The ubuntu coming ? [20:26] the next ubuntu version coming in october [20:26] oh [20:26] I would assume that STEAM works well in WINE along with the Half-Life series ? [20:27] It works. I dont know if it works _well_ [20:27] Someone stole my steam account years ago so i dont really use it now :P [20:27] Well it don't work "_well_" in XP from what I've seen. Sometimes I get off the game and BOOM! Bluescreen about nVidia's dll [20:27] haha [20:29] SiDi: Would #ubuntu+1 have any idea if that bug would be being fixed? [20:31] Nope, Name141 [20:31] I don't think it's fixed yet, otherwise it would be marked as fixed on kernel.org [20:31] Oh yeah. [20:31] And, your problem is widespread, but your network chipset is just one among others [20:31] you have little to no chance to find help outside of specialised channels [20:32] I assume that I'm not the only one with a Dell Inspiron 530, yeah lol. And whatever else it's being used in. [20:33] It seems to hit T61 and vostro 200 too, but thats still not many people in #xubuntu or #ubuntu+1 :) [20:35] hi. how do i use gpp with geany? [20:35] SiDi, "keysym 122 = 121" => 122 and 121 are decimal values? [20:36] Naunaud: it was an exemple, dont use these [20:36] unless you wanna say goodbye to your Z key :D [20:36] but yes, its decimal values [20:36] Well, I tested it =D [20:36] Had to reboot though... [20:37] As my ; . is dead on the concerned computer, I don't know how to find the good value... [20:38] all I have are keycode values of ; and . separetely [20:41] use these keycodes [20:53] Well, it doesn't work SiDi, it seems that the shift key is ignored in fact... [20:53] Hey caps lock works! [20:53] YEAH [20:53] thanks SiDi ^^ [20:58] mm [20:58] It only works with your keycode, SiDi [20:58] oO [20:59] hm :P [20:59] you should write a custom keyboard layout [20:59] 122 works on F9, i can type z with F9 and Z with caps lock + F9 [21:00] yeh but i suppose its because caps lock + F9 doesnt make sense, so caps lock + . cant be turned into that [21:00] Yeah, I read about that, but I'm not skilled enough for that task :p [21:00] or something like that [21:00] it's not as hard as it looks [21:00] just copy /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/fr to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/mycustomlayout [21:01] then you just have a copy paste to do in the file to modify the place of the . ; key [21:02] and if i didnt forget anything it should work :p [21:03] ok, I'll try that :p [21:08] I have the line with the semicolon and the period, but I don't get what to do with them [21:08] there are nothing related to functions keys [21:11] find the line with F9 [21:12] and put the semicolon and period instead [21:16] I found F9, but it's in srvr_ctrl... [21:18] * SiDi_ thinks Naunaud will buy a new keyboard monday [21:19] xD [21:19] for a laptop? :s [21:19] haha :D [21:19] contact your manufacturer [21:19] when i broke my keyboard i whined at dell.fr and i got a new one the next day ! (but ive got a pro warranty :p) [21:20] SiDi_, :P [21:20] I don't have the money to put in a keyboard, I contacted them once and it would have cost me 20€ for the keyb itself and then 25€ for shipping... (from holland to belgium...) [21:20] and my lappy is 5 years old :D [21:20] oh :P [21:20] no warranty for him :p [21:20] buy a new lappy for 30 € then :D [21:20] lol [21:22] I remaped the fuckin dead key to another key in my beCustom layout [21:22] how do I activate this layout? [21:23] hm [21:23] setxkbmap [21:23] okay, thank you SiDi_ ^^ [21:23] You're the man :x [21:23] :P [21:23] It works ? [21:23] I'm rebooting now [21:23] I like to reboot [21:24] :s [21:24] you dont need to reboot :P [21:24] favourite sport [21:24] if it doesnt work instantly it means it doesnt work :P [21:24] Well some keys were still fucked up with xmodmap [21:24] :s [21:24] * SiDi_ learnt that because he wanted a custom keyboard layout for ET:QW :P [21:24] it'll be fixed with setxkbmap [21:24] xmodmap modifies the keyboard map, but setxkbmap completely reinitializes it with a new layout [21:25] gee, I had to re-reboot, forgot to select xubuntu and it booted OS X :s [21:25] all right then, there we go for the setxkbmap [21:25] * SiDi_ prays the god of kittens for it to work [21:26] Error loading new keyboard description [21:26] SiDi_, http://i29.tinypic.com/29qcoly.jpg [21:26] WHAT THE HELL :o [21:27] You forgot to pray :s [21:27] Naunaud: ok, thats what i thought [21:27] you have to tell it you added a keyboard layout [21:27] and guess what : i forgot how [21:27] :D [21:27] lol [21:27] nice =D [21:27] knome: do you want an stegosaukitten ? [21:27] SiDi_, not meh [21:28] SiDi_, that's my mothers cat [21:28] is a cute kitteh [21:28] mkdir /var/lib/xkb [21:28] ? [21:28] Naunaud: definately not that [21:30] All right [21:30] It's working [21:30] the first time I specified the complete path [21:30] and it seems it"s not needed :s [21:30] it fails when you specify it... [21:32] yeh, its only the file name inside the directory sorry [21:32] like, fr, be, etc [21:32] I have my settings for left handed mouse... but when it starts it is acting right handed.... I have to manually change it to right and then back to left for it to work, what up with that? === jiohdi3 is now known as jiohdi [21:35] SiDi_, I think I know how to bind my key to F9, as I ran setxkbmap in verbose, I saw what other symbols file he joined with my custom layout, so, I can modify them (after backing em up of course) [21:36] hm yeh [21:36] that can be a more radical option [21:36] I like radical =D [21:39] Doesn't seem to work [21:40] I'll stick with my hack :o [21:41] now I can type . was a little harsh to have to cp it in an editor everytime :s [21:41] hehe indeed [21:43] but I guess I won't code anymore on this laptop :s [21:43] thank you for the help SiDi_ :p [21:43] je peux te dire merci, tu comprendras aussi je suppose ^^ [22:07] I have a intel video card, and Im not sure how to get the drivers, [22:07] any suggestions ? [22:08] you have they alredy [22:08] intel drivers are open [22:09] Naunaud: you're welcome ;) [22:09] but there are major changes going on with them [22:09] dylan_: hello, what xubuntu version ? [22:10] SiDi_, 9.04 [22:11] oh btw SiDi_, can you confirm me that Sigmatel 9200 cards are a pain in the ass to get working on Xubuntu? It's working out of the box with Ubuntu live CD 9.04, but not Xubuntu 9.04, any ideas? :D [22:11] http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html [22:11] everything seems slow when I move windows around the screen [22:11] Naunaud: sudo aptitude purge pulseaudio && killall pulseaudio ? :) [22:11] these cards work very well, Naunaud [22:11] let met reboot under Xubuntu to test that :D [22:11] dylan_: its because Intel released _crappy_ drivers for the version of X.org in jaunty [22:12] so is there a way to get the good drivers ? [22:12] using the link above, you can try to install newer versions of these drivers. it should be safe but in case of problems there is no official support of course :D [22:12] thanks SiDi_ [22:16] SiDi_ [22:16] Do I have to reboot? [22:16] he said that no process was killed [22:16] maybe [22:16] lulz [22:16] wasn't installed [22:16] -_- [22:16] gee [22:16] kill me [22:16] :s [22:17] !flood [22:17] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [22:17] mhh, that was not the right one [22:17] !enter | Naunaud [22:17] Naunaud: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [22:17] oups [22:17] sorry [22:18] I'll try to keep that in mind, I was caught by my utter idiocy [22:18] Naunaud: it was just ranting from me [22:19] What laptop model do you have exactly ? [22:19] Naunaud: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/audio_intel_hda [22:19] check this out, its all there [22:19] And describe exactly whats not working too please :) [22:19] don't laugh :D it's an acer TravelMate 3002 WTMi, never failed me (except when I recently spit water on they keyboard and ended up with my ;. key dead) [22:20] SiDi_, ok so I followed that link and upgraded the xorg drivers (intel) to 2.2.7.1 [22:20] now it sais to enable "uxa" [22:20] but in my xorg.conf file, It doesnt even state that its using the intel drivers [22:21] http://pastebin.ca/1555340 [22:21] Tell it that its what its using then :P [22:21] (i really meant that i could not provide support for it btw. I _only_ buy nvidia cards) [22:22] nvidia is definately the best but this computer does not have a agp or pci-e slot [22:22] only pci [22:22] Just paste the whole device section [22:23] under "device" it says "configured video device" thats it [22:23] should I change that to "intel" ? [22:24] I changed my xorg.conf, now it looks like this http://pastebin.ca/1555343 [22:24] dylan_: replace the device section with the one proposed in the tutorial [22:25] "Please be sure that VideoRam matching the ram of Video card based on what you calculate above. Of course the option UXA is mandatory too." [22:26] SiDi_, how do I tell how much ram the video card has ??? [22:28] this is the video card 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) [22:31] google says 64MB [22:31] up to you to trust google; [22:32] its a intel p4 so I can't see it being 32mb [22:37] SiDi_? [22:37] SiDi_ is currently rebooting his brain. SiDi_ will be available again in a few weeks. [22:37] can't I just do a codec dump on a ubuntu live cd and somehow import it on my xubuntu? [22:37] lol, ok :p [22:38] Naunaud: you still didnt describe me the bug with your sound card :D [22:38] there's no sound :s [22:38]