[04:25] <nixternal> hrmm, who keeps breaking the apport support in kdelibs?
[04:29] <jjesse> i do
[04:29] <ScottK> jjesse: Get your keyboard working?
[04:29] <jjesse> ScottK: haven't had more time to work on it been away all day
[04:29] <ScottK> Ah.
[04:29] <jjesse> i can't get the esc hit the right time
[04:31] <nixternal> ScottK: should I upload a fixed kdelibs, or should I just commit the changes to bzr?
[04:31] <ScottK> nixternal: I'd upload it.
[04:31] <jjesse> thinking about just reloading it w/ a fresh load of alpha 5
[04:31] <nixternal> roger that
[04:36]  * ScottK is currently working on NBS.
[04:41] <nixternal> doh!
[04:41] <nixternal> kubuntu-feedback plasmoid...I have no idea where Riddell got the source from, but it is not correct at all :)
[04:42] <nixternal> people are emailing me with all kinds of issues :D
[04:47] <ScottK> Wouldn't it be handy if you were a core-dev and could upload the right thing.
[04:57] <nixternal> ya, maybe I should become a core dev :p
[04:57] <nixternal> I am fixing it now, and will upload the correct release
[04:58] <ScottK> Yeah!
[04:59] <ScottK> nixternal: I discovered last night the kairmode can also work as kteenager_supposed_to_be_concentrating_on_homework_mode.
[04:59] <nixternal> hey, it will not be a 0.1 release but a 0.2 rleease, will you have to push that through for me?
[04:59] <nixternal> lol
[04:59] <ScottK> Bug fix only.  No problem.
[05:00] <ScottK> Just file a bug documenting what you did and it's cool.
[05:00] <nixternal> right
[05:01] <nixternal> testing it to make sure that it does in fact work
[05:01] <ScottK> Good plan
[05:02] <nixternal> and it does :)
[05:03] <nixternal> what happened is Riddell uploaded the version that was hardcoded to a survey url, and I had created a PHP script that the widget would connect to and pass the version info and what not, and then the script would scrape the survey website for the correct version as well as match it up to the latest alpha/beta/whatever release
[05:11]  * ScottK decides not to make any snide comments about php.
[05:13] <nixternal> make them, I hate it, but it was handy for a remote script in this case
[05:14] <nixternal> though, the amount of code it took, could have been done in probably half the lines with python
[05:25] <nixternal> jeesh kdelibs takes a bit to build
[05:25] <nixternal> all of this just to edit one patch (kubuntu_51_launchpad_integration.diff) to s/p/P in the apport-kde line
[05:31] <nixternal> new kdelibs uploading now
[05:39]  * spstarr builds today's Qt 4.6 git snapshot and KDE trunk
[05:43] <nixternal> uploaded to repos and pushed to bzr for kdelibs
[05:50] <spstarr> i wonder if I should setup a PPA for Qt 4.6/KDE trunk
[05:51] <ScottK> We need help with making Qt 4.5.2 and KDE 4.3.1 better.
[06:01] <jithine> hi guys. If there is a issue with release notes who to contact.
[06:02] <jithine> the feedback on the page is not working.
[06:03] <jithine> when loggin in its giving an error that unknown timezone asia/culcutta
[06:04] <ScottK> jithine: nixternal just uploaded a fix for it.
[06:05] <jithine> the forum timezone issue? cool! I had the issue for months
[06:07] <nixternal> ScottK: that is another issue that jithine is talking about....I just saw the same a few minutes ago
[06:07] <nixternal> but on a different page
[06:07] <ScottK> Oh
[06:08] <nixternal> and then I also noticed "Internal Server Errors" with LP as well
[06:08] <jithine> ScottK: its the same error
[06:08] <jithine> ScottK: UnknownTimeZoneError
[06:08] <jithine> 'Asia/Kolkata'
[06:08] <ScottK> Oh
[06:08] <ScottK> Hopefully nixternal can fix that one too.
[06:09] <nixternal> I don't mess with that stuff thankfully :)
[06:09] <nixternal> newz2000 works on that stuff
[06:09] <jithine> The feedback I wanted to give is this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7903269
[06:09] <jithine> its about the social features in release notes. unfortunatesly all of them should be in known issues.
[06:13] <nixternal> ok, time for sleep...i got a new power washer today and spent the entire day power washing everything!
[06:13] <nixternal> g'nite
[12:20] <markey> wow, logout from kde works again
[12:20] <markey> hugs and kisses to whoever fixed that :)
[16:30] <Guest87394> In the kubuntu netbook remix alpha 5, in the installation to hard disk, the first dialog is to big for the screen of a eeepc 701 (resolution 800x480).
[16:33] <ScottK> shtylman: ^^ He has some ideas on how to solve this without a total redesign.
[16:34] <shtylman> ScottK: can I get a screenshot? ... also .. no .. not really. We never planned to be able to handle 480px vertically and that is just too small of a resolutiion
[16:34] <ScottK> Guest87394: ^^
[16:35] <ScottK> shtylman: Yes, I recall.  I thought it might be worth discussion of alternative approaches since he had some ideas.  I have no idea how impossible they are to implement.
[16:35] <Guest87394> Ok, I will launch the netbook :-)
[16:35] <shtylman> ScottK: gotcha...well, once i see the screenshot I can give it some thought...I do have a possible solution though. I can query the resolution and load a different stylesheet with smaller fonts and smaller central area
[16:36] <shtylman> but realistically we do have to draw the line some where
[16:36] <shtylman> because honestly at that resolution the map display is probly most of the screen
[16:37] <shtylman> and the slideshow would also be too big for that screen iirc
[16:39] <ScottK> shtylman: Agreed.  There are a fair number of 480 devices, so it'd be nice to support it if we reasonably can.  IMO, for the installer, you're the decider on reasonable.
[16:40] <shtylman> ScottK: if there are a number of devices and I can (after seeing the screenshot) squeze things down with just a stylesheet change I will, cause honestly that is easy to do. If it would require moving widgets physically...I will probly be less inclined.
[16:41] <shtylman> I would need to look at what would be *reasonable* small font sizes for those screens
[16:42] <ScottK> Guest87394: So I think you can help out here.
[16:42] <ScottK> Since you have the device.
[16:52] <Guest87394_EeePc>   http://rapidshare.com/files/276445062/eeePC701_instqllqtionHD_snapshot1.png.html
[16:55] <Guest87394> There is also a possibility (oldtimed) to propose a virtual screen. It's in another level but could be more general.
[16:55] <shtylman> Guest87394: Guest87394_EeePc: alright...I will take a look at trying to make it vertically smaller...the buggest problem pages are going to be the user setup screen which has alot of input fields and labels stacked vertically. The keyboard display screen and timezone may also be a problem.
[16:56] <shtylman> Guest87394: im not sure if that would be possible...
[16:56] <shtylman> Guest87394: I could provide a scroll bar...but I don't want to do that...ever
[16:56] <shtylman> it ruins the look
[16:57] <Guest87394> I think it's possible since the possibility in the ubuntu remix exist.
[16:57] <shtylman> I will probly just descrease the font size and then make everything vertically smaller and it will just be that way for very small screens
[16:58] <shtylman> what does ubuntu remix do?
[16:58] <Guest87394> Show the install to HD.
[17:48] <Guest87394> shtylman I have try to move other dialog with "alt right click-move". It works. This suggest that a decoration in the install dialogs could be set to a wrong value (as maximized).
[17:49] <freinhard> hi!
[17:50] <freinhard> just updated to the most recent knetworkmanager 0.1~svn1017841-0ubuntu2~jaunty3
[17:50] <freinhard> is it supposed to work? clicking wlan a essid does nothing
[18:31] <refic> spstarr: 07:50:21 < spstarr> i wonder if I should setup a PPA for Qt 4.6/KDE trunk
[18:32] <refic> absolutely :)
[18:32] <spstarr> ;)
[18:37] <shtylman> Guest87394: I don't fully understand what you mean...
[18:46] <Guest87394> shtylman One eeepc when you have a dialog box which is to big for your screen, you have the possibility to move the dialog with the alt key pressed the left button pressed and moving the pointer.
[18:46] <Guest87394> Then the cursor change in a four arrow shape.
[18:47] <Guest87394> You release the mouse button and the dialog is moved.
[18:51] <shtylman> Guest87394: thats not an eeepc thing...thats a window manager thing
[18:55] <shtylman> anyhow know how I mark a bug as low importance?
[18:55] <Guest87394> Yes.
[18:57] <shtylman> Guest87394: so what is your point?
[18:57] <a|wen> shtylman: eh, click in the importance field and choose low (assumig you have the appropriate rights)
[18:58] <neversfelde> is there sometinh that changes *.desktop files? Probably any translation system?
[18:58] <neversfelde> s/somethinh/something
[18:58] <shtylman> a|wen: guess i don't have the rights then :)
[18:59] <a|wen> shtylman: heh :) you can apply for bug-control membership ... or just join the rest of us as ubuntu developer / motu of any kind ;)
[19:00] <shtylman> I see :)
[19:07] <nixternal> ryanakca: hey, I need the header stuff for h.k.o that I need to add to the docs...I am going to start working on it again and have it on my todo list. this project == PITA!!! :)
[19:09] <Guest87394> shtylman I guess medium, not for the Eeepc701 (which is quite old and I have found a acceptable work around) but for developper on exotic hardware.
[19:12]  * Riddell away until thursday
[19:12] <Guest87394> shtylman A correct workaround for the installer on eeepc 701 is to use an extermal monitor (with can have higher resolution (until 1200x1600) ).
[19:12] <shtylman> Riddell: unacceptable :p
[19:13] <Riddell> try not to panic
[19:13]  * nixternal runs around like a chicken with its head cut off
[19:14] <nixternal> PANIC!(!(!(&#!&#(!&!!
[19:14] <shtylman> but but...!! help!
[19:14] <shtylman> what will we do?!
[19:16] <nixternal> ryanakca: I will also need a checkout of the website so i can run it and test locally to make things easier as well...I think I will need this, unless you know of another way to do the testing
[19:22] <freinhard> Riddell: knetworkmanager is broken on jaunty, go fix it! ;)
[19:24] <freinhard> running 'round with a 40m rj45 cable feels so... 1990s
[19:26] <smarter> freinhard: I so need something like that :P
[19:26] <smarter> wifi just sucks
[19:51] <EagleScreen> wifi and bluetooth sucks
[21:36] <neversfelde> bug 411020 needs a sponsor
[22:48] <sgh> Hi. What is happening with dosemu in karmic. It segfaults if running it as an ordinary user. Running it as root works fine though. mmap_min_addr is set to 0. Any ideas or can someone confirm this?
[22:50] <neversfelde> sgh: please report a bug in launchpad. I guess the Kubuntu dev channel is not the best place to talk about it.
[22:53] <sgh> neversfelde: Its on karmic so I was hoping for a talk on what migh be wrong. But I will report the bug. Thanks :)
[23:13] <a|wen> sgh: dosemu is not really kde-stuff :) so kubuntu-devel isn't really the best place to find people knowing anything about it
[23:47] <sgh> a|wen: ah ok .... of cause for ubuntu-issues in general maybe #ubuntu+1 would be better. Did not realize that this i of cause KDE-specific. Sorry :)
[23:48] <a|wen> no worries :)