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sylv1hi guys00:01
harjot_how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?00:01
harjot_how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?00:01
harjot_how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?00:01
FloodBotK2harjot_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:01
sylv1does anybody know if it's possible to get a good localization experience with kde 4.3 from backports PPA ?00:02
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fysaen:D00:14
Hei_KuIs there someone from the Spanish translation team around?00:26
Hei_KuRosetta made it again and screwed it up with the  %n strings00:26
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Hei_Kucan someone point in the right direction to report this and have it fixed. It's kind of a repeating story with every update00:30
Guest8622ciao00:30
sourcemakerhow can I add myself to address book... I receive the following error message: You do not have your own contact defined in the address book.00:34
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Mist_How does one disable the builtin plastique in Kubuntu?01:07
Mist_err.. 9.04 that is01:08
Detteis there a way to set up Kubuntu 8.04 the way i want it, then make an install disk that will reinstall it the same way it was? like a backup image but works like a regular install?01:10
caseydhas anyone successfully used the 'gmail-plasmoid'? I get Could not create a python ScriptEngine for the widget.01:18
Detteis there a way to set up Kubuntu 8.04 the way i want it, then make an install disk that will reinstall it the same way it was? like a backup image but works like a regular install?01:44
Zeelothey I'm having a problem with sound, having lots of static in the background (like I have to turn the volume way too high to hear the sound)01:58
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coilettedoes kubuntu 9.04 isntall video drivers automaticly?02:26
coiletteor do i have to do something special to install the best drivers?02:26
Dettemaybe02:30
KDeskhi02:38
KDeskI want to open epub books, but I read that okular doens't support this in kubuntu, I have to compile it with epub. But I don;t know how to do it, what do I need?02:40
* Dette quit sleeeeeeep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz02:49
coilettewhats dolphin's imbedded search apps name?02:53
coilette"The Process for the nepomuksearch protocol died unexpectedly"02:54
coilettewhat i i need to remove and replace to be able to search my comouter?02:56
Mist_So.. how does one share a folder on the network.. did properties and then share tab and pressed the button.. entered the sudo password into the box and then.... nothing...03:00
Mist_hm..03:00
Mist_ah one need to install samba.. it doesnt do it for you.. and edit smb.conf etc. kk.. fair enough..03:07
coiletteahh how do i run as SU? hehe03:09
coilettenvm, did it my CLI03:10
Mist_aaaand that didnt work too good anyway... as usual..03:11
Mist_Anyone know how to do this in kubuntu 9.04, sharing folders via smb?03:13
coilettecan somebody have a look at my error log for ati driver installation please? http://pastebin.com/d4907f48003:17
what_ifHas anyone found a workaround for installing koffice on 9.04 ?03:40
KDeskwhat_if: which version?03:42
what_if1:1.6.3-7ubuntu603:43
what_ifin actuality I only need kformula. the rest of the packages are optional;03:43
what_ifbut would be nice to have03:43
Mist_Anyone know how to do this in kubuntu 9.04, sharing folders? Anyone? Anyone alive? Is it possible?03:46
malkaranihi03:48
coiletteno idea Mist03:48
rdef@ mist i would try right clicking on the folder and then choosing ->properties then click tab ->permissions then under "ownership" near the bottom click ->group and choose "sambashare" at the bottom03:53
rdefthis "should" make it shared when networked using samba03:54
rdefbut i have only done this in ubuntu... much easier there lol03:55
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Mist_rdef: yeah.. I started to think kubuntu is taking the experimental way for some time now :P04:01
Mist_I dragged down samba configure utility and smb4k etc and figured it out somewhat now though. I know the old way editing smb-conf etc, but it was a long time ago and was really hoping to a gui working 2009 :P04:02
Mist_But any working way.. is a good way :)04:02
Mist_Besides.. I kinda miss old school terminal editing.. I really do.. just.. growing old.. hopefully not bald though :P04:03
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KDeskwhat_if: I can install koffice 1.6 in 9.04. Why don't you can?04:05
what_ifKDesk: Because installing koffice or kformula wants to remove many other packages that I need. Like KDE404:07
what_ifKDesk: I am on amd_64... are you as well ?04:07
KDeskwhat_if:  yes, but I use now karmic (9.10)04:08
KDeskwhat_if: can you do: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kformula04:09
KDeskwhat_if: and paste everything in http://pastebin.ca/index.php ?04:09
what_ifkformula: Depends: koffice-libs (>= 1:1.6.3) but it is not going to be installed04:09
KDeskwhat_if: and if you try to install koffice-libs ?04:11
what_ifhttp://pastebin.ca/155568004:13
what_ifA long string of depencency errors...04:13
KDeskdid you do an apt-get / aptitude update?04:15
what_ifmany times. Same error every time04:16
KDeskodd...04:16
what_ifI know...04:17
what_ifthe only non-ubuntu  repository I have is for wine only, so that should not cause any issues04:17
KDeskwhat_if: could you please also attach your sources.list to the pastbin?04:18
KDeskwhat_if: install is an alias, right?04:18
KDeskto what?04:18
what_ifalias "install=sudo apt-get install"04:19
KDeskwhat_if: hmm. Maybe If you try aptitude?04:20
what_ifhttp://pastebin.ca/1555689 <-- pasted sources.list to the end04:21
what_ifaptitude wanted to un-install 134 packages (all of KDE) to install kformula04:23
what_ifsame as synaptic04:23
KDeskwhat_if: yes, sources.list is ok. I dont' understand, I installed koffice one month ago in 9.04, the same version, 1:1.6.3-7ubunut604:23
what_ifI don't know either04:26
KDeskwhat_if: does it say why? a conflict with koffice-libs?04:26
what_ifdownloaded the koffice source, compiling is probably easier than fixing this04:26
what_ifkdelibs5: Conflicts: kformula but 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu6 is to be installed.04:27
what_if   koffice-libs-kde4: Conflicts: koffice-libs but 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu6 is to be installed.04:27
what_if   koffice-data-kde4: Conflicts: koffice-data but 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu6 is to be installed.04:27
KDeskyou can try the version 2.1 beta 104:27
what_ifis that in the repos>04:28
KDeskwhat_if: ah, you have koffice 2 installed.04:28
what_ifthis is the error then ?04:29
KDeskwhat_if: I think you can not have both, koffice  1.6 and 2.x installed04:30
KDeskat the same time04:30
KDeskwhat_if:  you can opgrade koffice 2.0 to 2.1 beta 1 or install 1.6 removing 2.004:30
what_ifinstalling 1.6 removes kde though... I am just going to compile it04:31
KDeskwhat_if:  should not, do:    sudo aptitude remove koffice-data-kde4 koffice-kde4 koffice-libs-kde404:33
what_ifdone04:35
KDeskand now install koffice04:35
what_ifthe kformula package still wants to remove 190 other packages. See : V04:37
what_iflol... http://pastebin.ca/155570004:37
theadmin...*tries* It does that for me too...04:38
KDeskwhat_if: I think you should better use aptitude, because with apt-get there are (or where) some problems handling dependencies.04:39
KDeskwhat_if: try with: sudo aptitude install koffice04:39
theadminKDesk: And i thought they are the same thing04:40
KDesktheadmin: not exactly, but aptitude has also a nice interfaz if you only run "sudo aptitude" :)04:41
what_ifaptituce did help a little, only tried to uninstall 142 packages : http://pastebin.ca/155570704:43
what_ifstill, that number needs to be 004:43
theadmin...now it tries to remove GNOME?04:43
what_ifdid it?04:44
* what_if looks again04:44
what_ifso odd04:44
what_ifthe package conflicts with desktop environments...04:45
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KDeskwhat_if: which kde version do you have?04:46
theadminOkay, also, try with synaptic, maybe that'd help04:47
what_ifkde 4.204:48
theadminWhat is the package name for openoffice.org database?04:48
what_ifopenoffice.org-base - full-featured office productivity suite -- database04:49
what_ifsynaptic also wants to uninstall kde04:50
what_ifits koffice!04:50
what_iflol04:50
mitdwhat is diiference 'tween http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu and .../kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu ?04:52
Dragnslcrmitd- they're different repositories, so they'll have different packages04:54
KDeskwhat_if: the problem is that kdelibs5 conflicts with the package kformula, I don't know why, maybe a mistake by some dev04:56
mitdthx, am upgrading to 4.3.1 (on 9.04) using backports and saw other ppa mentioned thx again04:57
Mist_sigh.. timeout with remote smb share.. what the frack is wrong now with this.. agh.. ffs what is it with kubuntu and networking stuff not working.. geesh.. less time throw in arch and config it and it works than this..04:57
KDeskmitd: but the backports one has kde 4.3.1 and the other has 4.2.4... beter use the backports one04:57
VK7HSE-EeeThe default network manager in Karmic alpha5 for some reason doesn't want to sync with my WAP (40bit) however I have overcome this issue by using WICD ...04:57
Mist_starting to feel being on a windows machine even..04:58
theadminMist_ maybe something with the share itself?04:58
Mist_I gone really deep.. 777 deep in fact. And all share config is open for all. Still it announce itself.. but it refuse to work and just time out.04:59
mitdroger that good tp know since I am 25 mins into upgrade lol04:59
KDeskwhat_if: you can fix this (not sure, but almost) by installing/upgradeing to kde 4.304:59
what_ifI will just wait04:59
KDeskwhat_if: and kde 4.3 is better than 4.2 :)04:59
what_ifi'm sure kde 4.3 will be coming soon.05:00
what_ifit would be great if that update fixed this problem05:00
theadminKDesk: It will, when they release 9.10. what_if: It'd come around october05:00
what_ifhmmm...05:00
KDeskwhat_if: why? it can take some days or weeks, come one, upgrade. with the ppa05:01
KDeskwhat_if:  this is the ppa url: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports05:01
theadminKDesk: 4.3 has some issues on 9.0405:01
KDeskwhat_if: and the repo:   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main05:01
Mist_im just tired.. but 2 days not getting it to work after countless forum threads and questions and tries.. it is just not like it should be for someone that fiddled linux since 93..05:01
Mist_maybe kubuntu just.. hates me...05:02
KDeskMist_: what happend to you?05:02
Mist_kubuntu and smb share etc happened..05:03
KDesktheadmin: ah, didn't knew.. what is wrong?05:03
theadminKDesk: He can't connect to a samba share05:03
theadminKDesk: Plasma does not start, some other issues05:03
KDesktheadmin: the only issue I had was that in the upgrade it killed/restarted the xserver.05:04
theadminKDesk: Well, that is normal. It needed to upgrade KDM ;)05:04
Mist_KDesk: the share is there.. set anyone to be able to connect, view and write to it. And folder and everything under is 777 chmoded. Group even set to smbshare.. it just refuse and timeout from this 9.04 ubuntu machine. This smb client works.. work towards pclos2007 and 2009 box and windows and itself so.. hmm..05:04
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Mist_logfile.. need to.. look logfile.. sleep.. not an option.. failure.. not an issue.. must..05:05
theadminMist_: Hey, Linux is not windo$e, it won't solve your problems. Unfortunately for some, but it really lets you learn your pc.05:07
what_ifKDesk: than you for your help. I will see what else I can find out about his issue05:07
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KDeskwhat_if: sorry I could relly help with  the problem, you can try installing from ppa koffiec 2.1 beta 105:11
what_ifI'm compiling the kformula from source.05:11
KDesktheadmin: but it can upgradeit without killing kdm, after that i had to continue the upgrade manually05:11
what_ifThat will solve all my dependency issues05:11
KDeskwhat_if: ah, yea, it seems to be a shorter way05:12
Mist_theadmin: Yeah I know.. I started out with slakware in 1993 compiling my OS..05:12
Mist_theadmin: and now it is 2009, and things like gfxcard drivers arent stuffed in default like it should, network doesnt work like it should and displayed, shares dont work out of the box, remote doesnt work like it should and so on.. the most basic and most used stuff around and they dont work.. 16 years later..05:14
Mist_But that is not the issue in general for me..05:14
theadminMist: I know... So i've asked, is the share itself working?05:15
Mist_theadmin: it should but it doesn't ^^ But.. it works towards this box that has exakt same setup, permissions, kubuntu 9.04 as well.. it is really weird05:16
KDeskMist_: hmm, I had once a porblem with samba or nfs, I had to manually change some file in /etc maybe  /etc/hosts.allow05:17
theadminMist_ So, as far as i get it, it just sudennly stopped working?05:17
Mist_theadmin: configured both at same time. The other box doesn't work of these two, he he05:18
Mist_But.. I might be on to something maybe..05:18
Mist_ah yes..05:18
Mist_the other box.. lack /etc/samba/smb.conf05:18
Mist_why is beyond me..05:19
Mist_that file should be there.05:19
Mist_Since all config utils have the settings and take them from somewhere..05:19
theadminMist_ Copy it from working box?05:19
Mist_sounds like an option atm yes.. but why isn't it there.. something of these 2 boxes failed on the other one with that config file.. still samba-configure-utility get it settings from smb.conf. But if it isn't there.. it shouldnt be able to.. still it has all correct data..05:21
theadminMist_ I have a smb.conf in many places, so it might be another one. Take a look at that list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/265904/05:23
theadminHow do you enable graphical login for root? Just wondering :D05:26
theadminNever mind, found it05:33
Mist_so weird.. everything checks out.. still not working.. only thing I can now think of is that this box have the kernel after the other one installed..05:42
Mist_bet its one of these things being to tired to see the truth.. and will solve it during sleep or see it through fresh eyes after rest.. :)05:43
lukegot a hardware question/problem anyone here a mobo expert?05:45
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Mist_ok.. now I get pissed.. suddenly it starts working.. argh I hate when that happen and I dont know why...05:52
Mist_this is it.. im going to bed.. sob.. gl guys and girls.. im confused..05:53
jcihello05:56
jciI'm looking for some help connecting my ubuntu laptop to a mac mini's Airport connection05:56
jciIs this the right place?05:56
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pipegeek_anyone know which package contains the kde4 theming control panel?  It doesn't seem to get installed along with systemsettings.06:01
hectorHola06:01
pipegeek_hi06:01
jcihello?06:06
surfinmdq_hi, i wanted to install Koffice but I don't if I should do a sudo aptitudo koffice or just a sudo aptitude koffece-kde406:08
surfinmdq_so, what you say!?06:08
theadminHello again. I wanted to know what is the "loop" part in "sudo mount -o loop somefile.iso /media/isodevice"06:11
surfinmdqsorry I closed the IRC client, so, what should I install, plain koffice package or koffice-kde4? I'm running KDE406:12
theadminsurfinmdq: We discussed a problem a few minutes ago, in which koffice tried to remove KDE with installing. Go with openoffice.org :)06:15
surfinmdqtheadmin: koffice trying removing kde? weird! it's like outlook trying remove windows lol06:17
surfinmdqtheadmin: very much thanx for this critical advice :D06:17
surfinmdqanother one: which solution do you recommend to make a 1:1 copy of my / partition (clone it)? it would be invaluable to have it restored in minutes if there's any problem when installing/upgrading my current Kubuntu06:21
surfinmdqI remember some time ago using Remastersys, very great soft, but may be some other options out there06:21
theadminsurfinmdq: you might try clonezilla... I don't know much of those, really, but well.06:24
theadminfsarchiver is a way too06:24
theadminoh, also, partimage06:25
surfinmdqtheadmin: cool, tnx again pal :)06:25
surfinmdqsee you!06:25
jciI'm looking for some help connecting my ubuntu laptop to a mac mini's Airport connection06:39
jciIs this the right place?06:39
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kalphi,which is latest intel processor?and its price07:09
kalp?07:09
_tjintel.com ?07:11
bdizzlehi, I Just noticed something rather odd a moment ago. I am running Kubuntu 9.04 on a laptop that is currently unplugged and running off of battery. Yet the Power Management believes that it is charging for some reason (obviously it is not, as the % decreases and it is unplugged)07:13
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jlillyhey folks. I need to install the kde4 development libraries to install a kde4 based package. I'm running 9.04 (ubuntu, not kubuntu). Any help? Figured this was the place to ask as its a question about kde libs.07:50
dwidmannjlilly: try install kdebase-dev kdebase-workspace-dev kdelibs-dev and libqt4-dev and then try07:59
dwidmannjlilly: **kdelibs5-dev, actually - oh, and you'll need cmake too08:01
jlillythx08:05
jlillyI have cmake.08:05
surfinmdqhi, what's the name of the package that have the tools to compile!?08:41
surfinmdqi need to compile latest digikam and can't run a ./configure08:47
surfinmdqso i need to install the compiler packages08:47
surfinmdqbut i don't know which are they :(08:47
Leobuntutry "build-essentials"08:56
surfinmdqLeobuntu: cool, i remember now, that's what i was after, tnx :D08:57
Leobuntu:)08:58
surfinmdqLeobuntu: still can't tun ./configure09:06
surfinmdqi figure i'm missing something, i can't remember the package's name with the tools to compile grrr09:06
theadminwhat is the difference between "sudo -u username" and "su username"??09:08
SoftVisionhi what is the path for the configuration file for grub2?09:18
theadminSoftVision: Karmic support in #ubuntu+109:19
VirtualDisastersurfinmdq:  build-essential09:21
VirtualDisastertheadmin:  different programs?09:21
theadminVirtualDisaster: Excuse me?09:21
VirtualDisaster<theadmin> what is the difference between "sudo -u username" and "su username"??09:22
surfinmdqVirtualDisaster: hi, yeah, that package is already installed but i keep recivieng: ./configure: no such file or directory09:22
surfinmdq=(09:22
theadminVirtualDisaster: Yeah, but they do pretty much the same thing09:22
VirtualDisastersurfinmdq: well if the pkg works then  guess youre ok?09:22
VirtualDisastertheadmin: yeah but they do them differently, so best not to get them confused09:23
VirtualDisasteri must say kubuntu has come a long way09:23
VirtualDisasteronly issue is 37" monitor09:24
theadminVirtualDisaster, i always do "sudo" for console things and "kdesudo (-u when nessecary)" for graphical09:24
VirtualDisasterbut it works so im ok i guess09:24
surfinmdqVirtualDisaster: sorry, the pkg is installed but i cannot run ./configure because i receive a "no such file or directory" when doing a ./configure from bash :P09:24
VirtualDisastertheadmin: yeah same09:24
VirtualDisastersurfinmdq: what?09:24
VirtualDisasterbrb updates done09:25
surfinmdqVirtualDisaster: nevermind, what i had missing was *just* the gcc09:25
surfinmdqtnx bro09:25
theadminWhere should i write to ask a certain thing to be added to repos? Just wondering :D09:29
Taggnostrhello09:47
Taggnostris there a way to upgrade kde from 4.2 to 4.3 even if it's not in the available updates?09:48
theadminTaggnostr: you need to add the backports repo09:48
Taggnostractually I only need to upgrade konsole09:49
theadminTaggnostr: eh, what's wrong with 4.2 one?09:49
Taggnostrwith konsole 2.2.2 I have a problem that make it crash, and a used with 2.2.3 and kde 4.3 wasn't able to reproduce it, so maybe it's fixed now09:50
theadminTaggnostr: Konsole separately not available in backports repo, sory09:51
Taggnostrdo you know when kde4.3 will be added to the updates?09:53
theadminTaggnostr: October.09:53
TaggnostrI guess I can survive another month09:54
Taggnostrdo you want to try to reproduce my problem? what version do you have?09:54
theadminTaggnostr: 9.04 JJ, KDE 4.2.209:55
Taggnostrif you want to try here is how (warning, all your konsole may crash): 1) open konsole 2) type 'python' and hit enter 3) paste print u''.join(map(unichr, range(0x1d400, 0x1d7ff))).encode('utf-8') and hit enter09:56
theadminTaggnostr: crash with signal 11 (SIGSEGV)09:57
Taggnostryep, same here09:58
theadminYou can try using gnome-terminal09:58
robin0800theadmin: works fine in gnome09:59
theadminrobin0800: Ofcourse. GNOME is generally more stable.09:59
Taggnostrit used to work on kde309:59
Taggnostrgnome-terminal is not installed and requires several other packages, are there other terminals already installed in kubuntu?10:01
theadminTaggnostr: No, unfortunately.10:01
theadminTaggnostr: Try installing gnome-terminal, it asks for only 2 packages for me so not a problem10:03
Taggnostrfor me it says 0 upgraded, 67 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45 not upgraded.10:03
theadmin67? paste a list to http://paste.ubuntu.com please10:04
Taggnostrhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/265993/10:04
theadminOkay it tries to install GNOME i think. Forget that then.10:06
Taggnostrok, can I also remove those packages at line 5-6?10:07
theadminTaggnostr: Use "sudo apt-get autoremove", that would remove them if they really are not needed10:08
Taggnostrok, done10:09
Taggnostrwell, thanks for all the help10:09
theadminTaggnostr: You might also try asking on kubuntuforums.net, maybe there is a fix10:10
rubyistwhat package are kde dev files in?10:12
theadminrubyist: "kde-devel"10:13
rubyistthanks theadmin10:21
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rubyisthas anyone tried to install the kate filetree plugin?10:21
rubyistI keep getting.. in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.10:22
rubyistSo, check this please and use another prefix!10:22
rubyisti don't see any option to select where the KDE libs are(from ./configure --help)10:22
jonathan__hello10:25
jonathan__?10:28
theadminjonathan: Yes?10:28
jonathan__hello just testing irc on kubuntu10:29
jonathan__where do you get help installing qt and c++?10:30
theadminJonathan__: Here of course :)10:30
jonathan__yeah10:30
jonathan__is there a easy package way or does it have to be manual?10:31
theadminjonathan__ Meh, look in synaptic there. There are too many packages listed so i'm not sure which one is needed10:31
jonathan__yeah... i did but allegdly those ones update10:32
jonathan__everyone calls it synaptic but mines called kpackagekit10:33
theadminjonathan: Kpackagekit is not fully working yet. Press alt+f2, type konsole, press enter, type sudo apt-get install synaptic10:34
Mamaroktheadmin: why? he is better off with the command line10:34
Mamarokjonathan__: also, if you have KDE installed, so is Qt, KDE doesn't run without Qt and C++10:34
theadminMamarok: O_O10:35
theadminI don't even quite know what Qt is10:35
jonathan__kk but i would liket o develop10:35
Mamarokjonathan__: then check out kdevelop, it should install everthing you need10:35
Mamaroksudo apt-get install kdevelop10:36
jonathan__i already installed kdevelop10:36
Mamarokwell, then start it :)10:36
jonathan__kk10:36
jonathan__theres like 8 launchers in the menu10:36
Mamarokkjona10:37
Mamarokjonathan__: sorry, there is a help file attached10:37
Mamaroktheadmin: Qt is the basic framework for KDE, as well as GTK+ is for Gnome10:37
jonathan__ok so i opened kdevelop for c/c++10:38
Mamarokjonathan__: also, for developing in KDE, see http://techbase.kde.org10:38
jonathan__that me done ready for some coding?10:38
Mamarokjonathan__: have you coded before with an IDE? It's pretty much the same as all IDEs10:39
jonathan__yeah only was delphi in windows10:39
jonathan__lol10:39
theadminjonathan__ Nothing windows counts10:39
jonathan__ok well i drew a wee house with open gl on opensuse10:40
Mamarokjonathan__: check out that link above and read, there is not much I can do else for you, also #kde will be more of help, this channel here is more for users than developers10:40
jonathan__but someone else setup my work station10:40
jonathan__kk10:40
Mamarokjonathan__: I can't read documentation for you, that is something you will have to do yourself10:40
theadmineeek! How do i stop a ping? O_O it started and ain't finishing10:41
Mamaroktheadmin: Ctrl+C10:41
rubyistgr10:41
Mamaroktheadmin: else, close the konsole tab10:41
jonathan__what is commands to get current version of stuff like gcc and qt ?10:41
Mamarokjonathan__: which Kubuntu do you use?10:41
theadminMamarok: Ctrl+c worked :)10:42
jonathan__the jaunty one :010:42
jonathan__its highly groovy10:42
Mamarokjonathan__: well, you will have to upgrade to KDE 4.3.1 first, developing for earlier versions is of no use, see the channel topic plase10:42
Mamarokjonathan__: and if you have kdevelop, you have the correct versions of Qt and gcc for the KDE versions you are using already10:43
jonathan__ok ok nice10:43
theadminHow can i prompt a user to enter a variable in a shell script?10:43
Mamarokjonathan__: please, read that website I gave you, you will have to read some documentation first, and get yourself a good book for C++10:44
Mamarokjonathan__: the one y Daniel Molketin is state of the art for developing in Qt10:44
Mamarokby*10:44
Mamaroktheadmin: with a script? same for you, read documetnation, script writing means reading docs first10:46
theadminMamarok: Okay, i'll google around10:46
Mamaroktheadmin: check the bash documentation10:46
theadminMamarok: "man bash"?10:46
Mamaroktheadmin: why don't you just try?10:47
jonathan__cant find book by this guy10:49
jonathan__but found interesting blog10:49
Mamarokjonathan__: wait, I will tell you10:49
Mamarokjonathan__: first result in Google, btw: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Qt-Art-Building-Applications/dp/1593271476/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1252230620&sr=1-210:50
Mamarokjonathan__: also please check here: http://qt.nokia.com/products10:52
jonathan__u spelt his name wrong earlier :P10:53
jonathan__so i design forms in this qt4 designer and write code in the kdevelop10:55
Mamarokjonathan__: nope, you use either kdevelop or Qtdesigner, but not noth10:55
Mamarokboth*10:55
jonathan__o10:55
Mamarokkdevelop is specific to KDE, Qtdesigner has a broader target10:56
Mamarokbut if you are a beginner in C++, read first, then you choose10:56
jonathan__i did c++ in uni10:57
jonathan__mostly embedded stuff10:57
jonathan__most ppl in my work seem to code in kdevelop using the qtdesigner to draw their forms10:58
jonathan__my qt desinger help>about claims its version 4.5 :)10:58
jonathan__which version of linux do u have man?11:00
Mamarokjonathan__: guess what: Kubuntu 9.04 :)11:02
jonathan__u like it?11:02
Mamarokthat is a strange question in a #kubuntu channel11:03
Mamarokjonathan__: this channel is for support only, please take discussions to #kubuntu-offtopic11:03
Mamarokand yes, of course, else I wouldn't be here11:03
jonathan__lol11:03
jonathan__ok11:03
rabidweezle!alsa11:07
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:07
_tj!mp311:11
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:11
rabidweezleis pulseaudio *needed* ?11:11
rabidweezleI'm getting sound issues with wine11:11
rabidweezle!pulseaudio11:11
ubottuPulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions11:12
jonathan__ohh yeah can i ask about wifi help in this channel?11:15
josef_hey11:16
rabidweezledon't ask to ask, just ask :)11:16
josef_know someone a software to make musik in ubuntu?11:16
rabidweezleaudacity11:17
josef_for*11:17
josef_is that for ubunut =O11:17
rabidweezleyep11:17
rabidweezlesudo apt-get install audacity11:17
jonathan__wifi will not reconnect automatically on boot i have to manually start it11:17
josef_nice one11:17
josef_i had that on windows ^^11:17
rabidweezlejonathan__: is it because of the kde keyring asking for a password?11:17
josef_thank you allot11:17
rabidweezlefor the wep password11:17
rabidweezlenp josef_11:18
josef_bye =P11:18
jonathan__i dont know11:18
jonathan__when it boots it appears to just try the wired connection11:18
jonathan__then i just press the wifi11:19
rabidweezlea wire hooked up?11:19
rabidweezlecause if not, that sounds like a waste of time11:19
jonathan__asks for a wallet password and then its good, but i would like it to reconnect automatically11:19
jonathan__??11:20
rabidweezleI was able to do that in opensuse with using ifup somehow :/11:20
rabidweezledon't ask me how though, it was through their networking stuff11:20
jonathan__get it to auto connect ?11:22
rabidweezleI just checked kde wallet... and I can't make it auto login to itself :(11:23
robin0800jonathan__: there is a tick box in network manager for that11:23
rabidweezleyeah, mine autoconnects to my router as soon as I login to my wallet11:24
jonathan__yeah and can you get wallet to auto connect to?11:24
rabidweezleI wish11:24
rabidweezleI just checked, and it has no such option :(11:24
jonathan__ok sorry for my noobness11:25
jonathan__i found the autoconnect button11:25
robin0800rabidweezle: gnome dosn't even ask for that only if you wish to change it11:25
jonathan__so i will still have to type in wallet password11:25
jonathan__?11:26
rabidweezleyeah, but gnome doesn't have a sexy plasma desktop11:26
rabidweezleyes jon11:26
Mamarokplease, could we stay on topic? It is not relevant what Gnome does or does not, we are talking KDE here11:27
Mamarokrabidweezle: autologin kdewallet is not going to work, it is a security feature, if you don't want to enter a password, then don't use it11:28
Mamarokautologin would override that security, hence maing a wallet useless11:28
Mamarokmaking*11:28
jonathan__well i do want security but i dont want to have to tell wifi to connect11:28
jonathan__if wireless is set to autologin will it just prompt for wallet password?11:29
Mamarokjonathan__: if you use the wallet, you have one password, and you just have to allow the network to use the wallet always, then you don't have to enter something11:29
rabidweezleI think it's for like corporate security than home security for the wifi access, since if you get on a corporate wifi on a stolen laptop you can do real monitary damages11:29
Mamarokjonathan__: but you should also upgrade to KDE 4.3.1, this is not going to work in 4.2.2 IIRC11:29
rabidweezleso it's good it's in there11:30
jonathan__how to you find out my current version11:30
jonathan__how to i update?11:30
Mamarokrabidweezle: it doesn't matter if it's for corporate or private, it's a security feature, if you don't want it, don't use it, as simple as that11:30
Mamarokjonathan__: well, if you have a basic Kubuntu 9.04 without having added other repositories to the sources then it is 4.2.211:31
Mamarokjust open dolphin or any other KDE application and check the Help menu -> about KDE11:31
rabidweezle4.2.211:31
Mamarokjonathan__: for updating, check the channel topic, please11:31
MamarokI told you so earlier11:31
jonathan__yes but i am a noob11:31
Mamarokwell, then maybe read some basics on the Kubuntu.org website and wiki then?11:32
jonathan__no im still reading the other things :)11:32
* rabidweezle adds the backports repo11:33
Mamarokjonathan__: well, before starting to develop for KDE you should read the basics on how to use KDE I think, but that is just a suggestion11:34
jonathan__ok it says11:34
jonathan__4.2.211:34
rabidweezlearg... repo in chicago is down.... ...switches repos11:34
Mamarokjonathan__: if you type /topic you will see the link to KDE 4.3.1 and how to upgrade, but as I said, there are websites like Kubuntu.org and the wiki that give some help, too11:35
jonathan__i see11:35
jonathan__thanks man11:36
rabidweezle!offtopic|rabidweezle11:36
ubotturabidweezle, please see my private message11:36
jonathan__why do links open in konkrer and not firefox11:36
Mamarokjonathan__: you are welcome, but I am not a man :)11:36
jonathan__lol no way11:37
Mamarokjonathan__: because it is the default browser, firefox is not a KDE application11:37
jonathan__can i choose to make firefox default easily11:37
jussi01jonathan__: system settings -> default applications11:37
Mamarokyes, in the system settings11:37
Mamarokjussi01: thx :)11:37
rabidweezlefirst thing I did was that11:37
rabidweezlejonathan__: I suggest making yourself familier with that system settings dialog, it's extrememly usefull11:38
jonathan__just type firefox11:39
jonathan__into11:39
jonathan__in the following browser: ?11:39
rabidweezleit should be on the list if firefox is installed11:39
jussi01jonathan__: yeah, just type firefox11:39
jonathan__ok i got it11:39
jonathan__thanks geting all problems sorted11:39
rabidweezlegood deal :)11:40
jonathan__ok i was also looking a wee dolphin beside my kickoff launcher in my main panel11:40
jonathan__do i use a launcher?11:41
Mamarokjonathan__: you can launch any application wit Alt+F2, then type the application name11:41
jonathan__but i want the icon in the panel aswell11:41
rabidweezleI made a nice little drop down quick launch panel on top with my favorite icons on autohide :)11:42
jussi01jonathan__: just make sure your icons are unlocked, then you can drag and drop from the menu11:42
jonathan__no way! really?11:42
rabidweezleyeah, if you sit down and play with kde for a while, it's loaded with all sorts of customizing options like that11:43
rabidweezleI also suggest kde-look.org for more customizing options11:43
jonathan__oh dear it looked like it wanted to add to my panel but now my launcher wont open :(11:43
rabidweezlelauncher for what?11:44
jonathan__i got my launcher menu kickoff11:44
jonathan__back11:44
jonathan__but i cannot add any items to the panel11:44
jonathan__is it cause of the old kde11:45
jonathan__i must upgrade11:45
rabidweezleright click and click add to panel11:45
jonathan__awesome11:45
rabidweezleleast that's how I do it11:45
jonathan__lol11:45
jonathan__i have to add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main to sources list?11:46
rezonans19Всем привет11:47
rabidweezlethere's probably a gpg key to go with that11:48
jonathan__:s11:48
jonathan__yeah11:48
rezonans19Hello to All11:48
jonathan__hello11:48
rezonans19Is anybody from Russia?11:48
rabidweezle!russian11:48
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke11:48
rabidweezle:)11:48
rezonans19Yes I am a russian.11:49
rabidweezlethat's the russian support channel if you need it11:49
rabidweezle:)11:49
rezonans19Linux rezonans-19-mainframe 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 ia64 GNU/Linux11:50
rezonans19uname -a ???11:50
Mamarokrezonans19: was this a question?11:51
jonathan__ok so i dont know what a gpg key is11:52
rezonans19Yes. I mean it is very interesting to know11:52
rezonans19Sorry for my English11:53
Mamarok!gpg | jonathan__11:53
ubottujonathan__: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts11:53
Mamarokit is used to signe repositories to guarantee the source not being corrupt or shipping malware11:54
rezonans19Also see http://silverghost.org.ua/public-gpgkey/11:54
rezonans19and it http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-ru/2009-February/000301.html11:55
rezonans19and it http://www.google.ru/search?q=gpg+key&hl=ru&newwindow=1&lr=lang_ru&ei=vpSjSpG0JtO1sgaNgs3SBA&sa=X&oi=lrtip&ct=restrict&cad=811:55
Mamarokrezonans19: stop that, please!11:56
rezonans19Ok11:56
jonathan__lol11:56
MamarokI think the official links I gave are enough for now11:56
jonathan__so much reading11:56
Mamarokjonathan__: well, you want to be a developer, no? Then you can't do without reading11:57
Mamarokfood time, later11:57
jonathan__but its basically a public encryption key madness11:57
Mamarokwhy madness?11:57
Mamarokit is very useful11:57
jonathan__is local dialect11:57
jonathan__::))11:57
rezonans19:)11:58
jonathan__ok if i go to sources file it wont allow me to save :(11:59
Mamarokjonathan__: did yu read the procedure to downlod the key?12:00
Mamarokdownload*12:00
Mamarokalso, /etc/apt/sources.list is a system file, you need to open it with sudo rights12:01
jonathan__well i did those two commands12:01
jonathan__ohh ok12:01
Mamarokand if you open it with kate, this would be 'kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list'12:01
Mamarokas all GUI applications need kdesudo instead of sudo12:02
Mamarokelse it will cause file permission problems12:02
jonathan__i did su12:02
MamarokKubuntu and Ubuntu doesn't use su, it's sudo12:02
jonathan__and now when i kdesudo it says no protocol12:03
Mamarokyou can't use du as there is no admin password, for security r4easons again12:03
Mamarokwell, kdesudo command, not just kdesudo alone :)12:03
jonathan__says root@jonathan-laptop:/home/jonathan# kate /etc/apt/sources.list12:04
jonathan__No protocol specified12:04
jonathan__kate: cannot connect to X server :0.012:04
Mamarokif you want to edit it on the command line, that would be sudo nanon /etc/apt/surces.list, this will open a command line ditor12:04
Mamarokeditor*12:04
Mamarokwell, as I said: kdesudo kate12:04
jonathan__no still says the same thing but i am logged in a su12:05
jonathan__should i try without being logged in12:05
Mamarokjonathan__: of course you should not be logged in as root, never12:05
jonathan__noob12:05
Mamaroktype exit to get out of there12:05
jonathan__i am12:06
Mamarokwell, if you don't have a root prompt anymore, now the command should work12:06
jonathan__ohh12:06
jonathan__we are in12:07
jonathan__it works12:07
jonathan__so i just add that line and my repositories will always use newest kde??12:07
rezonans19Mamarok: How I can set an encoding in Kate? I try change it to CP-1251, but it give me an alert message: "Не возможно поменят кодировку текста, обратитесь к разработчику"12:07
Mamarokwell, yes, as long as the Kubuntu ninjas package for Jaunty12:08
Mamarokrezonans19: you should avoid ISO encoding, use UTF12:08
Mamarokand I don't read Russian, sorry12:08
jonathan__so long as what?12:08
rezonans19Mamarok: Thanks for advice (or advance?).12:08
jonathan__advice12:09
jonathan__:)12:09
Mamarokjonathan__: well, as long as there will be packages backported to Jaunty, you can use that sources.list12:09
jonathan__ohh12:09
jonathan__so they have to release them to that list then i can get them12:09
jonathan__?12:09
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Mamarokok, now I am really away to eat, jonathan__ , please read some basic information in kubuntu.org and the wiki there, we can't learn for you, you really need to read that yourself12:10
jonathan__enjoy your food12:11
jonathan__with deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main in the sources.list what next??12:13
lakis1982hello .. i want to specify a command of suspend to ram  to a multimedia key of my keyoboard so that when i press it , the pc goes to sleep mode....  do you know what's the command that i should assign please???12:14
jonathan__??12:19
lakis1982hello .. i want to specify a command of suspend to ram  to a multimedia key of my keyoboard so that when i press it , the pc goes to sleep mode....  do you know what's the command that i should assign please???12:19
Mamarokjonathan__: patience :)12:24
Mamarokjonathan__: saved the file already?12:24
jonathan__i have little patience :P12:24
jonathan__i have to run apt-get install KDE?12:24
Mamarokwell, this is a community support, for impatient people there is paid support available, too :)12:24
Mamarokjonathan__: run sudo apt-get update12:25
Mamarokthen sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:25
Mamarokand be patient, it's faster to upgrade than any Windows, but still needs some time to proceed :)12:26
jonathan___hello12:29
jonathan___?12:29
Mamarokjonathan__: did you read what I said above?12:29
jonathan___i got disconnected :(12:29
Mamarokok, once more:12:30
jonathan___i managed to run sudo apt-get update12:30
Mamarokjonathan__: run sudo apt-get update12:30
jonathan___now its runing sudo apt-get dist upgrade12:30
Mamarokthe sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:30
jonathan___kk12:30
Mamarokand be patient, it's faster to upgrade than any Windows, but still needs some time to proceed :)12:30
jonathan___if i get disconnected while im upgrading will it resume upon reconnect?12:31
jonathan___(PLEASE say yes)12:31
Mamarokwell, just restart that12:32
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Mamarokand get yourself a stable connection...12:32
Mamarokjonathan___: and read the instructions given on the screen12:33
Mamarokdid it finish the update process?12:33
Mamarokelse you might have to run sudo apt-get update again before dist-upgrade, to make sure oyu have everything12:33
Mamarokonce the udate is done, it's working locally anyway12:33
Mamarokand get yourself a stable connection...12:34
jonathan__lol12:34
jonathan__im at mums house12:34
Mamarokjonathan___: ethernet doesn't disconnect that easily, and it's more stable than a shaky WiFi connection12:34
Mamarokwell, if the upgrade finished correcty and the files downloaded, it should proceed without problems, but upgrading with an unstable connection is not the best idea12:36
lakis1982hello .. i want to specify a command of suspend to ram  to a multimedia key of my keyoboard so that when i press it , the pc goes to sleep mode....  do you know what's the command that i should assign please???12:36
Mamaroklakis1982: check the system settings -> keybpoard & mouse, and the power management in the advance tab12:36
Jim_MorrisonCan I upgrade KDE ?12:37
lakis1982mamarok ichecked t but there is no option to add a combination key12:37
MamarokJim_Morrison: a bit more information about where you want to upgrade from mmight help12:37
Jim_MorrisonThx Mamarok12:37
Mamaroklakis1982: of course there is, if your keyb0oard is fully supported, there certainly is12:37
lakis1982i press this combination but it only locks..it doesnt suspend to ram12:39
meta_Hi all12:39
Mamaroklakis1982: you need to assign it yourself then12:40
meta_I know that it is possible to make a tun device, which (ssh) tunnels _all_ of my conenctions via a server12:40
lakis1982i press this combination but it only locks..it doesnt suspend to ram12:40
meta_Is there a howto for it, or anybody knows the exact name of this technique (as i'm not found anything, maybe because i don't know the name of it)12:40
lakis1982ctrl alt l12:40
Mamaroklakis1982: did you  check the Power management settings in system settings -> Advanced tab?12:41
lakis1982yes12:41
lakis1982it doesnt have hotkeys there12:41
Mamaroklakis1982: please, read the global shortcuts available in the keyboard & Mouse settings12:42
Mamarokfor global Power Manager12:42
Mamarokand assigne the key combination you need there12:42
lakis1982mamarok im in global settings now and there i no option for suspend to ram12:43
lakis1982so ?12:44
jonathan__ok its done...12:45
jonathan__how do i know it worked?12:45
Mamarokjonathan__: if you have nothing held back and everything installed, just check with sudo-apt-get dist-upgrade again to be sure12:46
Mamarokthen you can restart KDE if you have everything installed and no error messages12:46
jonathan__how d you restard12:46
Mamaroklogout12:46
jonathan__restart *12:46
Mamarokno, log out12:46
jonathan__ok well i owe you many thanks12:46
Mamarokcheck the menu12:47
Mamaroklakis1982: and your multimedia keyboard mapping is correct ?12:47
lakis1982what do you mean ?12:47
Mamarokwell, you need to have your keyboard layout working correctly, then you have acces to advanced keys, too12:48
lakis19822 button of my keyboard are not working only.. when i try to assign a command on them it gives me :   this button isnt supported by qt12:49
Mamarokwell, that's not a big issue, as "Suspend to Ram is a sysrq action, so assigning that shouldn't be a problem, did you read that: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-146186.html12:51
Mamarokok, off for the day, later :)12:52
lakis1982yes12:54
jonathan__hello everyone13:17
jonathan__??13:19
jonathan___?13:22
slow-motionhi13:23
jonathan___hi how do you remove the stats graph in kde 4.3.1 which sits on the desktop after install?13:23
jonathan___:D13:24
jonathan__how do you remove the stats graph in kde 4.3.1 which sits on the desktop after install?13:28
csthello14:02
cstis there any turk users?14:02
tandersonhi14:11
tandersonAre kubuntu amd64 livecds supposed to work with intel core2duos?14:11
DragnslcrI would assume so14:15
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BluesKajHiyas all14:48
mrwoodydoes anyone know how to install the latest version of digikam? is there a repository for that?14:55
miriam_channel italy?14:58
miriam_loffio14:58
miriam_ma nn posso reastare14:58
miriam_su un canale14:58
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BluesKaj!it | miriam__15:03
ubottumiriam__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)15:03
neco198i have problem for graphic15:04
ivan_hi15:06
ivan_to all15:06
andreime_hello... i have a question; i am trying to install toggle-compositing plasmoid and in the help file it says something like (Where $KDEDIR your kde installation directory)... where is the installation directory in ubuntu?15:07
neco198one half of the high image quality while the other bad15:07
andreime_this is the full code ~$ cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=($KDEDIR) ../15:07
andreime_any ideas?15:08
ivan_restart pc15:10
andreime_why?15:11
ivan_because15:11
andreime_... you are a sad person15:14
ivan_no15:14
BluesKajandreime_, I think it's in /usr15:18
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andreime_BluesKaj, thanks for the tip someone tolled me that kde4-config --prefix helps to find that out15:20
BluesKajandreime_, yup , I see that15:21
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ubuntu_suup15:32
ivan_ivan15:35
ivan_kjk15:35
Nesmeroвсем привет)15:38
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BluesKaj!ru | Nesmero15:56
ubottuNesmero: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:56
firehi, can anyone help me with kopete?15:57
Nesmerowhat`s wrong?)15:58
firebefore on kde3.5 I used it to conect to messenger and used my webcam, was this function canselled in kde 4.3?15:58
BluesKajNesmero, nothing , we can't read cyrillian script here15:59
Nesmeroto which messanger?16:00
firemsn16:00
fireyes, before on kde3 there was a button for sending and recieving webcam and now in kde4 there is none16:03
Nesmeroi don`t know16:04
Nesmeroi use my w-cam only for skype16:04
firethat is what I've been doing so far, but I have contacts that don't have skype accounts16:04
fireand I don't know why but amsn support for web cam conversations fails16:05
BluesKajfire, amsn is an alternative to kopete , afaik it's webcam capable16:06
BluesKajoh ok , fire , didn't know that amsn fails ..bummer16:07
fireI know, actually I used amsn before, but liked better the gui of kopete, and now I have installed amsn but the webcam is somehow not working propperly with amsn16:07
matthias_hi, using cpufreq-set -c0 -d 800 Mhz I can change the minimum, though after a reboot I have to set that again, what can I do about this?16:10
martijn81anyone willing to help with making the wiki of an open source application better?16:10
martijn81the KTorrent wiki need a lot of extra work16:11
firematthias_ you could write a simple script and run it automaticaly on startup16:12
matthias_fire: where do I have to store such script?16:12
pcI just upgraded to 9.10 alpha 5 and I can't connect to my wifi. What can I do?16:13
BluesKajpc ask 9.10 questions in #ubuntu+1 , we can help you there16:14
firedepends on weteher you ant to run it every single time or only when specific users sign in16:14
pcI just saw the info on this channel and I copy/pasted my question there, thanks BluesKaj16:14
BluesKajright16:15
matthias_fire: every single time and not depending on X or anything graphic realted, so as soon as the pc boots16:15
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* nit is away: Gone away for now16:24
* nit is away: Gone away for now16:24
* nit is back.16:25
nithow do i remap my trackpad buttons separate from my trackpoint ones?16:33
the_madmanLo everyone.16:37
the_madmanSo I'm having a problem with Nepomuk.16:37
the_madmanWhen I try to activate it, it shows this error message in a console: "(Soprano::PluginManager) found no soprano plugin at  "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so""16:38
the_madmanThing is, I double-checked and that file does actually exist.16:38
the_madmanI'll paste the whole thing now.16:38
the_madmanhttp://pastebin.com/d5d82769c16:40
philipp__hi16:43
proctishi philipp__16:45
philipp__kann mir jemand schnell helfen?16:45
proctismaybe. But could you speak english ?16:45
philipp__oh sry i thought this is an german irc chatt16:47
rethusdoes kubuntu same community like ubuntu, or this an other developer?16:47
philipp__i think this is kubuntu16:47
ooberethus, kubuntu and ubuntu are the same if you ask me16:48
oobethey are part of the same community16:48
Dragnslcrrethus- Kubuntu is part of the Ubuntu project, though there may be different developers that focus on Kubuntu16:49
rethusjes, only ubuntu has gnome, and kubuntu kde16:49
rethusah, ok16:49
rethuscause i want to switch to a debian-based desktop16:49
rethusand i use kde and would not like to change16:49
oobeyeah then get kubuntu16:50
oobeits good16:50
oobei think naming ubuntu and kubuntu causes too much confusion16:50
oobethey are really both the same just named differently based solely on choice of desktop16:50
rethusi have look at this before (i'm not a linux newby) and i remember there was other like xubuntu and so on.. but i need stable system and kde16:51
oobekubuntu is a nice choice16:51
rethusso like i know linux... it not have to be hard to migrate suse kde to kubuntu kde ?16:51
rethusi'm right16:51
oobeplus you can update to the newest kde using backports16:51
DragnslcrThe different editions all use the same repositories, they just have different packages installed by default16:51
rethusok, i didn't want to live on the edge... kde 4.2 are enough16:52
oobewell said Dragnslcr16:52
DragnslcrSo Xubuntu has XFCE installed by default instead of Gnome16:52
oobe4.3 has less bugs16:52
oobeand its easy to upgrade16:52
rethusand thats the reason why i not use debian itself.. software-releases are to old... or if i have to choose "unstable"16:52
rethusoobe: but its not stable declared from kde-team ?16:53
oobehttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.116:53
DragnslcrDebian is generally intended for server use, where you need more long-term stability16:53
oobehttp://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.1.php16:53
oobeyeah it is stable16:54
oobewas made stable not long ago16:54
rethusoobe: wow, nice to know :)16:54
oobei had a few issue's with kde 4.2 4.3 fixed them all16:54
rethusdragnslcr: problem wit debian... if u still want to use php5 yout have to use backports. That are not a real solution.16:55
DragnslcrReally? PHP5 has been out for something like 4 years. I could see Debian still being on something like 5.1.6, but I can't imagine it not having PHP5 at all16:56
ooberethus, i think you will have a great time with the ubuntu repo's you can get everything that is newest and stable16:56
rethusmhh. i mean i have read 5 minutes ago such a article on Ubuntu vs. debian-page16:56
oobethe huge thing that makes debian different is that there idea of stability is too strict making development and updates too slow16:57
oobeon the other hand there support is miles in front16:58
oobemost ppl on help forums for *buntu are newbs who just learnt somthing and are looking to answer questions that they dont understand16:58
oobeno offence to anyone here just my opinion16:59
rethusoobe: so i will try to migrate from suse 11.0 to kubuntu... Are there some tips to migrate? I would install kubuntu and than mount my home/partition... install all programms that i nee... and then i think.. it should work... what u meand17:00
oobebut if you are already experienced with linux and can use google well then that shouldnt be a problem17:00
ooberethus, that sounds like it will work17:00
rethushave do so many times with suse, cause suse doesn't have the nice Distribution-upgrading like debian (only still at 11.1 and new zypper... but know is to late ;)17:01
oobeyou may need to overwrite or remove some old configs in you ~/ folder17:01
rethusoobe: why17:02
oobethey may not be compatable17:02
oobethis is purely a guess17:02
oobei think for the most part using your old home partition should be fine17:02
proctisEasy question: I how can i get Expose like efect in kde ?17:03
rethusdoes the kuuntu community such big like ubuntu community?17:04
oobeno ubuntu is more popular17:04
proctisrethus: who knows ?17:04
rethuswhat are good forum-pages to get help?17:04
oobebut most technical problems are not DE specific anyway17:04
oobeubuntuforums.org17:05
dwidmann_proctis: if you have effects turned on, slam your cursor against the top left corner and attempt to keep going17:06
Dragnslcrproctis- System Settings -> Desktop17:06
bobbob1016How can I get the data transfer notifier to show megabits per second, instead of mebibits or whatever it is showing now?17:06
proctiswow, it's cool17:07
rethusoobe: what u meand "not DE specific way"? how can a technical problem "DE specific be"17:08
Dragnslcrproctis- System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges has an Activation delay setting that you might be interested in changing17:08
proctisok, thx17:08
DragnslcrIf you set it to 0, it'll show all of the windows immediately when your mouse hits the corner, instead of needing to keep pushing the mouse17:09
rethusoobe: and i see... kde 4.3 is very "eye candy" (theme air)17:09
oobeexactly most techincal problems are not DE specific17:10
rethusoobe: but what means this... at the moment i not remember to any DE secific problem?17:11
rethusu mean with umlauts (Umlaute)17:11
oobeDE = Desktop enviroment17:11
oobeall i mean is if someone has a for e.g network issue why are they posting it in a forum as a kubuntu specific issue17:12
* nit is away: Gone away for now17:12
rethusah (ups) i think u mean DE for Germany17:12
oobethis slows down the process of support17:12
rethusoobe: ok, but i find some help for this on ubuntu-forum ?!17:13
rethusor in kde-forum?17:13
oobei think you seem to know enough i would just install kubuntu from cd17:13
oobeand take it from there17:13
oobeyou will need to format a fresh / partition17:14
oobethen mount your /home partition afterwards17:14
oobeu could even back up your existing / before you do17:14
rethusu mean in my suse-system... create a new partition, install kubuntu at it, start on this part. and mount my home... reconfigure the kubuntu-home and try it?!17:15
oobeyeah if you want17:17
oobeall you need is 10GB+ of empty space17:17
oobethe installer can resize partitions if you wish17:17
rethusso i have choose now. Next update are a migration du kubuntu !17:18
oobei dont know what you mean17:18
oobedo you mean when is the next version of kubuntu coming out17:18
rethusno, i mean, that i not migrate now or tomorrow, but if i update my linux system.. i migrate to kubuntu17:19
rethusmeans from suse to kunbuntu17:19
rethusi love linux, i love kde and i think i will love kubuntu in future - cause its stable like debian17:20
rethusthanks a lot, for your support.17:20
oobeok good luck17:20
rethusthanks... in future (if i have migrate to kubuntu) i'm much often here17:21
mick_I'm having trouble with WINE17:46
mick_When I try to run WINE, my computer slows down, but the program never opens.17:47
mick_Hello?17:47
mick_Anybody on this channel?17:48
firewhat version of wine do you use?17:49
mick_1.0.1, I think.17:49
mick_Ubuntu 8.1017:49
fireand what program do you want to run with wine?17:50
mick_WeatherBug.exe, but this happens with everything.  I can't even open WINE configuration.17:50
firewhat bottle of wine are you using?17:51
mick_I don't know.17:51
firemm.. not even the configuration?17:51
mick_Nothing ever seems to happen.  I eventually have to go into System Monitor and kill the wineserver process.17:51
firebut wine is running in the background right? after you try to run a program17:52
franz_Hello. Totally new to Kubuntu 9.04 after having been on different KDE3 versions up to 8.04.  Now, after having installed a new program, how can I have it in the start menu (if it does not show up there by itself) ? I couldn't find how to manage this new start menu in KDE417:52
mick_I guess so17:52
firefranz_you can manage in menu editor17:53
mick_It briefly appears in the taskbar, but nothing ever runs in the foreground.17:53
mick_Ever.17:53
franz_fire: thanks but if I am asking it means i haven't found yet how to access it!  ;-)17:53
firemm why don't you try a reinstall? it's been a long time since I used wine, try crossover17:54
mick_Is it free?17:54
fireyofranz_ you can access it by right clicking or in the lancelot menu there is a button in the top right corner that gives you access to a menu there you can click on the menu editor17:55
firesorry mick_ it's not free, but runs way better than wine, even though it uses some things of wine17:56
franz_Thanks fire    One more question: how do I add anew icon for a program on my desktop?  It was so easy before.....17:56
fireyou can add it as a widget17:56
firesimply drag the icon to the desktop17:57
fireand it will turn into a widget17:57
franz_what is a widget? I searched a dictionary (not english mothertongue) but i couldn't find this word. I only need a "symbol" to click on it and make a program start17:58
fireis that program you want to start in the kmenu?17:58
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franz_yes17:59
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fireok, just open kmenu left click on the program's icon and drag it to the desktop17:59
franz_ok fire, thanks again.  I'm wondering why they modified a simple procedure like putting a new icon on the desktop into such a clumsy sequence. Why not leaving something that works fine as it is?  It's a silly word!18:01
franz_world*18:01
fireprehaps they thought it was easier that way18:02
fireenven thou I actually don't use the menus, it's easier to run the krunner and launch everything from there18:02
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franz_I agree fire, but sometimes you can't remember the exact spelling or even the name of a program that does a certain task18:04
firefor that you can change the program's name to an easier one18:04
franz_doesn't it affect dependencies?18:05
fireno, just change the name in the menu editor18:05
fireand so you can call the program with a nickname18:05
firekeep the same command in the menu editor just change the Name of the program18:06
fireor call the program with the description of it18:06
franz_ah ok, i see.... well I will be able to have things the way I like at the end, but I stinn can't understand this mania of changing things when they work fine!18:06
franz_still*18:07
fireit's because they changed everything in kde, you could post this coments in the kde blog18:07
fireand by the way widgets are all the icons and applications that are on the desktop18:08
franz_i will have a look there, but I bet there is already lots of complains!18:08
firelike the thermal monitor, or the file viewer or photo viewer and all those things you gind in the add widget menu18:09
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fireactualy there are, but still you can use kde3 just by  compiling it18:09
firethe windgets are what superkaramba was for kde318:10
firewidgets**18:10
franz_it is a possibility... but is it still supported?  An anyway KDE4 is nice to see.... only it makes things unecessarily less straightforward... after having been on KDE3 for many years18:11
fireit just takes time to get used to it18:12
Guest40079h18:13
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geenuxHi everyone, I heard about the kate kpart, which now contains a vi-like mode. But I can't find how to use this kpart (for example in konqueror).18:13
franz_see: when 6 years ago I switched to linux from Windows (After having been on Win3.1-95-98-XP) it was much easier than switching from KDE3 to KDE4!  This is crazy!18:14
franz_or may be I'm simply getting old....18:18
fireohh.. well it was also hard fot me, I was used to mandrake's kde3 and then went suse kde adn solaris, and yes kde4 is different, but you get used to thi's logic easily18:19
snikkerhi, ubuntuone doesn't work with kde4?18:21
BluesKajat first I thought kde4 was just more eye candy , but eventually it won me over altho plasma crashes too easlily when launching kate18:21
firewhat version of kde4 are you using bluesKaj18:22
fire?18:22
novalgina2fasthi guys,i have a problem with wireless connection,it doesn't work(i can't active wlan0....)i'm using kde 4.3 and plasma-widget-network-manager18:22
BluesKajfire,  4.4.0-8ubuntu218:23
firegeenux, it's easy to start kate in vi mode just: in Settings → Configure Kate… → Editing → Vi Input Mode18:23
firedon't use the plasma widget, use the network managet that apears on the system tray18:24
tspyhey!18:25
mitshi... does anyone how to enable alsa mixing? / if alsa mixing is enabled can all the applications output sound simultaneously without problems?18:25
firenovalgina2fast, use knetworkmanager as it comes18:25
firemits you could use pulse inorder to have all the aplications sound simultaneously, just be careful while setting it up18:26
coilettehehe wow i screwed my KDE up.. bear with me, i need some assistance.. I did a dist-upgrade to 4.31 and now my KDE is all over my screen.. i need t know how to get it back to something like the original18:26
novalgina2fastyeah but if i install knetworkmanager and not the widget a lot of gnome library came in my pc18:26
VirtualDisastercoilette: a dist-upgrade from what?18:26
firethe problem is that in kde4.3 the widget is not 100% functional, at least for me doesn't work18:26
VirtualDisasterfrom 8.10 to 9.04?18:26
VirtualDisasterfire: what widget ?18:27
coiletteKDE 4.2.2 to 4.3.118:27
mitsfire: i'm using it right now, but it crashes frequently (in karmic) :(18:27
VirtualDisastercoilette: um thats not a dist-upgrade, thats just pkgs, what distro did you upgrade from and what distro did you update to18:27
novalgina2fastso i have to take the gnome's library?ok,thanks for all^^18:27
coilettehag on.. the command was dist-upgrade somethig18:27
VirtualDisastercoilette: cat /etc/lsb-release18:28
firemits well remember that karmic is not a released 100% operational, you have to be used to have bugs in the system, I'm not familiar win karmic, so I can't really help you that way18:28
coilettesorry i know this os going to spam a few lines >.<..18:29
coilettesh -c "echo 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"18:29
coilettesh -c "echo 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"18:29
coiletteapt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A18:29
coiletteaptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade18:29
fireVirtualDisaster: the widget I'm talking about is the network manager widget, it doesn't work for me, I use knetworkmanager18:29
FloodBotK2coilette: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:29
VirtualDisasterfire: oic18:29
coiletteyeah i know >.<18:29
VirtualDisastercoilette: i have no idea what you did all that for18:30
VirtualDisasterunless you know what youre doing i suggest to stay on latest version ...18:30
VirtualDisastercoilette: run this command in a terminal so we can see what youre wokring w/18:30
geenux"to use this kpart (for example in konqueror)."  Yes, I know. But I'm quite sure there is a katepart, and as it is the point of kparts, I should be able to use it instead of all standards text edit area18:30
coilettei did this only for kopete to work correctly18:31
VirtualDisastercoilette: cat /etc/lsb-release18:31
VirtualDisastercoilette: dont justify it :P we've all done similar items before18:31
jamesb_How do I enable my nvidia drivers?  I saw an icon pop up in the taskbar but it's gone now..18:31
coilettelol all i need to know is how to set my widgets up. it looks like KDE ate my gui and puked it up at random lol18:31
firejamesb: just go to hardware configuration18:31
VirtualDisasterjamesb_: go to system settings and look for hardware drivers18:32
firebut if you want the latest nvidia driver you will have to do it the hard way18:32
mitsfire: yeah, i know :( it's just that i got bored with (the non-problematic) jaunty :) thx anyway18:32
coilettehold on VirtualDisaster.. kickpad is gone, gotta find konsole18:32
jamesb_The hard way? I kinda like the sound of that..18:32
VirtualDisasterfire: lets keep people using the recommended items18:32
VirtualDisastercoilette: alt+f218:32
VirtualDisasterthen type in terminal18:32
jamesb_That's why I'm using Kubuntu.. time to learn a new OS..18:32
firejamesb: download the latest driver form the nvidia drivers (google it)18:32
VirtualDisasterjamesb_: use drivers from repo18:33
VirtualDisastermuch simpler and they work, (im using it now)18:33
coiletteohh duh yeah i use ubuntu 9.0418:33
firejamesb: if you are new use the repo drivers18:33
jamesb_VirtualDisaster:  but will this get the latest drivers?18:33
VirtualDisasterjamesb_: do you want latest or do you want functional?18:33
VirtualDisasterjamesb_: futhermore keep it simple, dont make learning a new OS more difficult than it has to be18:34
VirtualDisasterif i would have kept it simple i wouldnt have wasted 3 years on gentoo18:34
VirtualDisasteractually 2 years and a lil time on arch18:34
fireVirtualDisaster: I use the latest ones and they work good, just of course you have to recompile adter a kernet update18:34
jamesb_Ok.. nvidia says latest linux drivers are 185.18.36  .... if I could just get that icon back.. lol.. it asked if I wanted to activate the driver..18:34
VirtualDisasterfire: im saying dont have new users trying to do semi-advanced items18:35
VirtualDisasteruse what (k)ubuntu offers and learn the base OS18:35
VirtualDisasteractually learn the OS then go out and do extra stuff18:35
fireVirtualDisaster: I know, that's why I said that if he was a noob use the repo ones18:35
VirtualDisasteric18:36
jamesb_I'm not seeing driver options in system settings.. I clicked the advanced tab too..18:36
firein kmenu go to hardware dirvers18:37
jamesb_duh.. got it.. lol18:37
firegood18:37
jamesb_Installing.. says version (180) .. looks good to me.. .18:38
fireyes that one18:38
jamesb_ok18:38
jamesb_Linux has changed a bit since the last time I actually played around with it..18:38
firewhy do you say that?18:38
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jamesb_Functionality...18:38
jamesb_Seems much easier.. I've never really used Linux before..18:39
jamesb_Need to restart.. brb18:39
firethere have always been many ways for doing things, now it's more graphical18:39
coilettehow do i rebuild my system bar(i think thats what its called) you know with the K! button, taskmanager, desktop selector, system tray..18:39
fireit's called the panel18:39
coiletteits all in pieces and i dont know how to put them together lol18:40
fireyou deleted it?18:40
coiletteno its all just messed up18:40
firein pieces how?18:40
coilettei may have deleted it.. i dk18:40
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fireit doesn't apear or just the items in it are all messed up?18:40
coilettei didnt format /home im guessing that my dad messed it up last ngiht18:40
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RasmusHello18:41
coilettei have all the widgets.. there just not attached to a panel.. how do i make it18:41
fireHello Rasmus18:41
Rasmusi really need18:41
Rasmussomm help18:41
Rasmushow to pm??18:41
fireoh, that's easy, right click on the desktop and add a panel18:41
coilettewow i knew it was something insanely easy18:41
fireno problem coilette18:42
coiletteits locked?18:42
fireRasmus: what do you mean with how to pm?18:42
firecoilette: what do you mean locked?18:42
Rasmusi really need some help with my ubuntu pc ;)18:42
coiletteits stuck in the top right, i cant move it18:42
coiletteleft actually*18:43
pair0docfire my guess is Rasmus means private message.18:43
Rasmusfire: i need to know how to get two partions to one18:43
firecoilette: click on the semi circle on the right, that'sthe panel menu18:43
fireRasmus: you want to merge the partitions?18:44
personal¿Algun canal en español?18:44
Rasmusfire: what does merge mean??? imn from sweden18:44
firepersonal: yo hablo español18:44
Rasmusfire: i got to partions but i just want to have one18:44
pair0docmerge == combine18:44
fireRasmus: what do you want to do with the partitions?18:44
Rasmusfire: get them together18:45
Rasmusfire: so they will be just one partion18:45
fireRasmus, but do you want to keep the info that is in both partitions?18:45
fireRasmus: or just combine the space?18:46
Rasmusfire: its just info in one of theme18:46
Rasmusfire: i want to combine the space18:46
jamesb_This is so much fun.. any recommended reading for noob's?18:46
pair0docRasmus do you have the info (data) backed up?18:46
jamesb_Resources... things like that?18:46
Rasmusfire: i got ubuntu on one of them but i want them together18:47
Rasmusfire: no18:47
firejamesb: I recomend you google a lot and mess up with your instalation ( use a separate partition for that)18:47
Rasmusfire: but i just wanna delete one partion18:47
Rasmusfire: with gparted18:47
fireRasmus: you can use the partition manager of kde18:47
jamesb_That's what I've heard.. just play and play and play./...18:47
Rasmusfire: gparded18:47
Rasmusfire: ??18:47
pair0docjamesb_, can I msg ya?18:48
fireRasmus: you have gnome or kde?18:48
Rasmusfire: gnome i think18:48
jamesb_Of course pair0doc18:48
fireRasmus: and you have the partition manager running for gnome?18:49
Rasmusfire: can i just take my time and write the hool story??18:49
fireRasmus, if you are going to write a lot do it in a private window18:49
Rasmushow to get a private window??18:49
Rasmusi know18:50
coiletteanybody have any idea what setting in synclient is for the speed the mouse moves when you've come to the edge of the touchpad?18:50
mitdfire re: Rasmus might be a good idea he do  mount [enter] and see both parts are mounted18:51
fireyes, he must umount the partition he wants to delete, the thing is that he has one ntfs and has to change it to etc318:51
chemicРуддщ! Ш have a question: I mount a partition ext3 but can't paste on it any file . what i s'do18:52
novalgina2fasthi,me again,i can't activate wireless connection in kde 4.3 after the upgrade from 4.218:53
firenovalgina2fast: you want to use the wirget right?18:53
firewidget*18:54
mitdnovalgina: +18:54
chemicanybody help me?18:54
novalgina2fasti'm using knetworkmanager now18:54
firenovalgina2fast: and it doesn't work with your wireless??18:55
novalgina2fastit see my home connection but when i click on it...it doesn't do anything18:56
firenovalgina2fast: have you enabled wireless?18:56
novalgina2fastyes18:56
novalgina2fastwith kde 4.2 this afternoon worked ç_ç18:57
firemm.. :S18:58
chemicHello! I have a question: I mount a partition ext3 but can't paste on it any file . what i s'do18:58
lillakaHi all, what is the official French Ubunut Channel please ?18:58
novalgina2fastlillaka, i think #ubuntu-fr18:58
chemicHi all, what is the official Russian Ubunut Channel please ?18:58
firechemic: are you sure that partition was mouted by you with the correct rights, or maybe it is only owned by root18:58
lillakaThanks a lot novalgina2fast18:58
pair0docnovalgina2fast, can you still connect via a shell to verify that it is just a knetworkmanager issue?18:58
novalgina2fastpair0doc i don't remember how...sorry18:59
chemici mount from console under root priveleges. mount /dev/sdc1 /media/home19:00
novalgina2fastchemic russian channel is #ubuntu-ru if you want it^^19:00
fireyou have to give yourself priviledges19:00
chemichow I may mount it from user?19:00
chemicsenks19:01
firechermic: you can't mount it from user, but you have to mount it with open privilidges19:01
chemichow?19:01
alchemist_some one lives in brazil19:02
firethe simplest way, run sudo dolphin select the partition you have mounted and right click to change the preferences19:02
mitdnovaL i had same problem (wireless) when upgrading (backports ppa) to 4.3 I had to install kdenetwork 4:4.3.119:04
fireI did that too and my knetwork manager works fine19:05
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mitdthe plasma? network thingy is broken :(19:06
fireyes it is19:07
firemaybe they will fix it later as they fixed the kopete CPU clock19:07
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mitdfire: i also had problems with libindi0?? did you see this?19:07
firemitd: I haven't cheked that19:08
novalgina2fastfire,do you remember how say to network manager to start when i switch on pc?now i have to start it o_O19:08
mitdits tied into kdeedu specifically kstars if you dont have kdeedu/kstars installed it goes away19:09
firenovalina2fast: in system manager go to advanced and there in autorun, place the command there19:10
novalgina2fastok thanks19:10
firewellcome19:10
firemitd: I not's use kde edu19:11
* nit is away: Gone away for now19:14
* nit is back.19:15
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RasmusFIRE!!!!!19:52
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coilettei would like to increase the speed the cursor moves, when my finger hits the edge of the touchpad, anybody know this setting in synclient?20:05
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blackmoonhi, i'm under jaunty and with nvidia 6600gt, kde4 sometime is very slow, on so i must restart the kdm... someone can help me?20:23
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coilettesimple reboot take too long o.-20:26
gescociao20:29
coilettewhere are programs installed to? looking for the equivelent to20:29
coiletteopps.. "program files"20:29
blackmooncoilette: what are you looking for?20:30
coilettewell when the download manager for firefox pops up.. and i click open containing folder.. it asks me to select a program to open it with.. i use konqueror right now..20:31
coilettei need to let firefox know to open the containing folder with konqueror20:31
blackmooncoilette: konqueror is into: /usr/bin/konqueror20:32
blackmooncoilette:the folder is /usr/bin/20:32
coilettethanks blackmoon20:32
blackmoonno problem20:32
chemicrussian chanel  please20:53
alvinyang916a20:55
chemicsomthing like #kubuntu-ru but dont worck20:55
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chemicsorry I found20:57
unknown1how to request to lift a ban on a username, any other ways that in #ubuntu-ops?20:58
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unknown1a21:04
Psi-JackThere's not a karmic RC release CD/DVD yet is there?21:08
vavrekno21:08
Psi-JackOkie dokie. ;)21:08
apparleI have two mirrors setup in sources.list -- 'in.archive.ubuntu.com' and '10.1.11.48' a local mirror.........whenever I donwload any package how to select which source to download from21:08
novalgina2fasthi guys,i can't connect in wirelles then the upgrade from kde 4.2 to kde 4.321:09
novalgina2fastwireless*21:09
Hiistyapparle: why u have local mirror?21:10
apparleit is setup by our college.........we get download speed of around 12MBPS21:10
apparle!wifi | novalgina2fast21:13
ubottunovalgina2fast: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:13
apparlenovalgina2fast: remove the current network-manager package and install wicd21:13
apparleHiisty: ??21:15
novalgina2fast_i have done it,after?21:18
vavrekapparle: 1st rule: mirror with newer version of package is used; 2nd rule: mirrors are used according to their pales in sources.list21:18
Psi-JackHmm, well, this sucks. Kubuntu 9.04 DVD torrent seems to be doing be absolutely no good.21:18
vavrekpales == places21:18
DragnslcrPsi-Jack- most recent test version of 9.10 is alpha 521:18
vavrekDragnslcr: exactly...21:19
Psi-JackDragnslcr, Yeah, well, I'm trying to just get my FreeNAS server to download 9.04's ISO for DVD or CD.21:19
vavrekand I was also having problem toeven start Xserver on ATI graphic card (RS780)21:19
vavrekon Karmic21:20
Hiistyapparle: i don't know how to solve that, but if that local mirror is always up to date, then what is the reason to use offical repo?21:20
Psi-JackOh, nevermind! It's working, just wasn't refreshing.21:21
vavrekPsi-Jack: http://ubuntu-releases.sh.cvut.cz/kubuntu/9.04/21:22
Psi-JackI got it.21:22
Psi-JackIt's downloading, just transmission webUI wasn't showing updates proper.21:22
vavrekgod-sake why You are using torrents to get kubuntu ?21:23
Psi-Jackvavrek, Because it works well, and it downloads it straight to my NAS server which has a burner.21:23
Psi-JackI'm downloading both the DVD and CD ISO for 9.04 Kubuntu, at each averaging 1.2MB/s21:23
Psi-JackSo, yeah. Question is, why would I NOT use Torrent?21:24
vavrektorrent is p2p... so usually you are not only downloading but also uploading21:25
vavrekwaste of bandwidth21:25
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Psi-Jackvavrek, I have 20Mb/s down, 10Mb/s up, and it's QoS'ing the upstream.21:25
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Dragnslcrvavrek- some people don't consider providing extra bandwidth to help distribute Ubuntu a "waste"21:26
Psi-JackDragnslcr, Exactly.21:26
apparlevavrek: both the mirrors are up to date and I tried changing the order21:26
novalgina2fastok,i have installed wicd21:26
Psi-JackI mean, yeah, I'm downloading at extremely high speeds, and sharing it back at about 40KB/s for others also downloading.21:26
Psi-JackBut, right now, Upload rate is 0B/s, so only I am downloading right now.21:27
Psi-JackOccassionally it'll show a few KB/s upload, but not so much.21:27
coiletteSo correct me if im wrong, but if i where to reinstall kubuntu, and not format sda7 (/home) all my settings will stay?21:27
vavrekDragnslcr: Psi-Jack: I think there is enough university servers and other which do this.. no reason to use torrent... http / ftp protocols are more accessible (and less restricted by providers) thn p2p21:27
Psi-Jackvavrek, p2p is not restricted at all.21:28
apparlenovalgina2fast: try configuring it..........because I don't know wireless, never had my own21:28
apparle!wifi | novalgina2fast21:28
ubottunovalgina2fast: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs21:28
vavreklots of ISP do restrictions to p2p the biggest reason why - is that p2p makes lots of connection for each download/uplod and involve high load to providers (21:29
vavreknevermind21:29
Psi-Jackvavrek, I wouldn't pay a provider to restrict me in any way. I would choose more wisely.21:31
[agatha]good evening, i have a question... lately my computer freezes without any apparent reason most of times i am using firefox but some others it just dies, the hard disk stops working and noting will work. is there any way to check what might be going on?21:31
vavrekcoilette: in global Yes... but maybe You want to backup some files from /etc (like fstab xorg.conf)21:32
vavrek[agatha]: look into /var/log/syslog*21:34
coilettei need somehting new to tincker with lol.. hmm what should i look into next21:36
coiletteproprietary ATI drivers in jaunty was utter fail.. but there must be somehting21:37
coiletteoh.. does anybody know if theres anything i can do about the scrampled image of the last session when reboot and log in?21:38
coilettescrambled*21:38
coilettethat must happen to other people right?21:38
vavrekeverything taht happend to your machine is logged to /var/logdmesg* and also /var/log/syslog*21:40
coiletteyou dont get this weird image when you log in?21:40
vavrekI have no idea which other information you wnat to get21:40
vavrekwhich image ?21:40
coilettets like a screenshot of the session you where in before you reboot/shut down, but its somewhat scambled like your video drivers are messed up21:41
vavreknever seen :-)21:42
coilettevavrek when you log in do you see a picture at all when after the login screen, before you see the desktop?21:46
coilette!mp3 editor > coilette21:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 editor21:46
coilette!fail21:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about fail21:46
coilettewhere does amarok2 store its playlists?21:49
jamesb_Folks I'm having trouble installing Java runtime environment.. I'm trying to install Sun Java but I keep getting an "unknown" error ....22:05
pinucsethi, I've just installed kubuntu 8.04 and after some updates when I boot it starts without kwin (no titlebars, etc.); if i start it (alt+f2 + kwin) i have titletables but I don't have the name of the applications in the panel22:25
pinucsetdo you have some solution? :S22:25
coilettewould anybody be up for giving me a hands on tutorial for retrieving code from a repo, and compiling from source?22:27
coilettesomething i've always wanted to learn!22:28
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coilettenobody can help me compile source? i figured everybody but me knew how to do that22:37
DragnslcrThere should be a README or INSTALL file with the source code22:38
Spacemancoilette: do you like fps games? have a look at Nexuiz www.alientrap.org the forums have lots of help for compiling the game22:55
Spacemanit's a 3 part compile, all fairly quick22:55
Spaceman1 compile the game engine Darkplaces22:55
offermannN'Abend22:55
Thornamd22:56
Spaceman2 compile the game code compiler Fteqcc22:56
offermannoh22:56
Spaceman3 compile the game code22:56
offermann where is the german chat?22:56
Spaceman#kubuntu.de ?????22:56
Spaceman#kubuntu.german22:57
Dragnslcr!de | offermann22:57
ubottuoffermann: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.22:57
Spaceman#kubuntu.germany22:57
Spacemanjust a wild guess22:57
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Bi-Boy25uo22:58
Bi-Boy25donde estoy22:58
Bi-Boy25?22:58
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offermann#kubuntu-de22:59
offermann#kubuntu.de22:59
Hiistywhat?22:59
Bi-Boy25i need help23:09
Bi-Boy25to connect a server23:10
Bi-Boy25who help 4 us...23:10
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Noi25woo23:10
david___hello23:12
SpacemanNoi25: you appear to be connected to a server23:12
Noi25maybe23:12
Noi25some spanish persone23:13
Noi25to speak about,how can i conected to a server 4 spain windows...thanks!!23:14
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coilettei have a hung application, how do i kill it23:54
Spacemanrun top, kind the id_number, kill -9 id_number23:55
Spacemancya chaps23:55
coiletteisnt there a GUI process manager?23:57
coilettei saw it before i just dont remember where23:57

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