[00:01] <sylv1> hi guys
[00:01] <harjot_> how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?
[00:01] <harjot_> how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?
[00:01] <harjot_> how would i use ssh to launch applications on the person im sshing?
[00:01] <FloodBotK2> harjot_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:02] <sylv1> does anybody know if it's possible to get a good localization experience with kde 4.3 from backports PPA ?
[00:14] <fysaen> :D
[00:26] <Hei_Ku> Is there someone from the Spanish translation team around?
[00:26] <Hei_Ku> Rosetta made it again and screwed it up with the  %n strings
[00:30] <Hei_Ku> can someone point in the right direction to report this and have it fixed. It's kind of a repeating story with every update
[00:30] <Guest8622> ciao
[00:34] <sourcemaker> how can I add myself to address book... I receive the following error message: You do not have your own contact defined in the address book.
[01:07] <Mist_> How does one disable the builtin plastique in Kubuntu?
[01:08] <Mist_> err.. 9.04 that is
[01:10] <Dette> is there a way to set up Kubuntu 8.04 the way i want it, then make an install disk that will reinstall it the same way it was? like a backup image but works like a regular install?
[01:18] <caseyd> has anyone successfully used the 'gmail-plasmoid'? I get Could not create a python ScriptEngine for the widget.
[01:44] <Dette> is there a way to set up Kubuntu 8.04 the way i want it, then make an install disk that will reinstall it the same way it was? like a backup image but works like a regular install?
[01:58] <Zeelot> hey I'm having a problem with sound, having lots of static in the background (like I have to turn the volume way too high to hear the sound)
[02:26] <coilette> does kubuntu 9.04 isntall video drivers automaticly?
[02:26] <coilette> or do i have to do something special to install the best drivers?
[02:30] <Dette> maybe
[02:38] <KDesk> hi
[02:40] <KDesk> I want to open epub books, but I read that okular doens't support this in kubuntu, I have to compile it with epub. But I don;t know how to do it, what do I need?
[02:49]  * Dette quit sleeeeeeep.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[02:53] <coilette> whats dolphin's imbedded search apps name?
[02:54] <coilette> "The Process for the nepomuksearch protocol died unexpectedly"
[02:56] <coilette> what i i need to remove and replace to be able to search my comouter?
[03:00] <Mist_> So.. how does one share a folder on the network.. did properties and then share tab and pressed the button.. entered the sudo password into the box and then.... nothing...
[03:00] <Mist_> hm..
[03:07] <Mist_> ah one need to install samba.. it doesnt do it for you.. and edit smb.conf etc. kk.. fair enough..
[03:09] <coilette> ahh how do i run as SU? hehe
[03:10] <coilette> nvm, did it my CLI
[03:11] <Mist_> aaaand that didnt work too good anyway... as usual..
[03:13] <Mist_> Anyone know how to do this in kubuntu 9.04, sharing folders via smb?
[03:17] <coilette> can somebody have a look at my error log for ati driver installation please? http://pastebin.com/d4907f480
[03:40] <what_if> Has anyone found a workaround for installing koffice on 9.04 ?
[03:42] <KDesk> what_if: which version?
[03:43] <what_if> 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu6
[03:43] <what_if> in actuality I only need kformula. the rest of the packages are optional;
[03:43] <what_if> but would be nice to have
[03:46] <Mist_> Anyone know how to do this in kubuntu 9.04, sharing folders? Anyone? Anyone alive? Is it possible?
[03:48] <malkarani> hi
[03:48] <coilette> no idea Mist
[03:53] <rdef> @ mist i would try right clicking on the folder and then choosing ->properties then click tab ->permissions then under "ownership" near the bottom click ->group and choose "sambashare" at the bottom
[03:54] <rdef> this "should" make it shared when networked using samba
[03:55] <rdef> but i have only done this in ubuntu... much easier there lol
[04:01] <Mist_> rdef: yeah.. I started to think kubuntu is taking the experimental way for some time now :P
[04:02] <Mist_> I dragged down samba configure utility and smb4k etc and figured it out somewhat now though. I know the old way editing smb-conf etc, but it was a long time ago and was really hoping to a gui working 2009 :P
[04:02] <Mist_> But any working way.. is a good way :)
[04:03] <Mist_> Besides.. I kinda miss old school terminal editing.. I really do.. just.. growing old.. hopefully not bald though :P
[04:05] <KDesk> what_if: I can install koffice 1.6 in 9.04. Why don't you can?
[04:07] <what_if> KDesk: Because installing koffice or kformula wants to remove many other packages that I need. Like KDE4
[04:07] <what_if> KDesk: I am on amd_64... are you as well ?
[04:08] <KDesk> what_if:  yes, but I use now karmic (9.10)
[04:09] <KDesk> what_if: can you do: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kformula
[04:09] <KDesk> what_if: and paste everything in http://pastebin.ca/index.php ?
[04:09] <what_if> kformula: Depends: koffice-libs (>= 1:1.6.3) but it is not going to be installed
[04:11] <KDesk> what_if: and if you try to install koffice-libs ?
[04:13] <what_if> http://pastebin.ca/1555680
[04:13] <what_if> A long string of depencency errors...
[04:15] <KDesk> did you do an apt-get / aptitude update?
[04:16] <what_if> many times. Same error every time
[04:16] <KDesk> odd...
[04:17] <what_if> I know...
[04:17] <what_if> the only non-ubuntu  repository I have is for wine only, so that should not cause any issues
[04:18] <KDesk> what_if: could you please also attach your sources.list to the pastbin?
[04:18] <KDesk> what_if: install is an alias, right?
[04:18] <KDesk> to what?
[04:19] <what_if> alias "install=sudo apt-get install"
[04:20] <KDesk> what_if: hmm. Maybe If you try aptitude?
[04:21] <what_if> http://pastebin.ca/1555689 <-- pasted sources.list to the end
[04:23] <what_if> aptitude wanted to un-install 134 packages (all of KDE) to install kformula
[04:23] <what_if> same as synaptic
[04:23] <KDesk> what_if: yes, sources.list is ok. I dont' understand, I installed koffice one month ago in 9.04, the same version, 1:1.6.3-7ubunut6
[04:26] <what_if> I don't know either
[04:26] <KDesk> what_if: does it say why? a conflict with koffice-libs?
[04:26] <what_if> downloaded the koffice source, compiling is probably easier than fixing this
[04:27] <what_if> kdelibs5: Conflicts: kformula but 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu6 is to be installed.
[04:27] <what_if>    koffice-libs-kde4: Conflicts: koffice-libs but 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu6 is to be installed.
[04:27] <what_if>    koffice-data-kde4: Conflicts: koffice-data but 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu6 is to be installed.
[04:27] <KDesk> you can try the version 2.1 beta 1
[04:28] <what_if> is that in the repos>
[04:28] <KDesk> what_if: ah, you have koffice 2 installed.
[04:29] <what_if> this is the error then ?
[04:30] <KDesk> what_if: I think you can not have both, koffice  1.6 and 2.x installed
[04:30] <KDesk> at the same time
[04:30] <KDesk> what_if:  you can opgrade koffice 2.0 to 2.1 beta 1 or install 1.6 removing 2.0
[04:31] <what_if> installing 1.6 removes kde though... I am just going to compile it
[04:33] <KDesk> what_if:  should not, do:    sudo aptitude remove koffice-data-kde4 koffice-kde4 koffice-libs-kde4
[04:35] <what_if> done
[04:35] <KDesk> and now install koffice
[04:37] <what_if> the kformula package still wants to remove 190 other packages. See : V
[04:37] <what_if> lol... http://pastebin.ca/1555700
[04:38] <theadmin> ...*tries* It does that for me too...
[04:39] <KDesk> what_if: I think you should better use aptitude, because with apt-get there are (or where) some problems handling dependencies.
[04:39] <KDesk> what_if: try with: sudo aptitude install koffice
[04:40] <theadmin> KDesk: And i thought they are the same thing
[04:41] <KDesk> theadmin: not exactly, but aptitude has also a nice interfaz if you only run "sudo aptitude" :)
[04:43] <what_if> aptituce did help a little, only tried to uninstall 142 packages : http://pastebin.ca/1555707
[04:43] <what_if> still, that number needs to be 0
[04:43] <theadmin> ...now it tries to remove GNOME?
[04:44] <what_if> did it?
[04:44]  * what_if looks again
[04:44] <what_if> so odd
[04:45] <what_if> the package conflicts with desktop environments...
[04:46] <KDesk> what_if: which kde version do you have?
[04:47] <theadmin> Okay, also, try with synaptic, maybe that'd help
[04:48] <what_if> kde 4.2
[04:48] <theadmin> What is the package name for openoffice.org database?
[04:49] <what_if> openoffice.org-base - full-featured office productivity suite -- database
[04:50] <what_if> synaptic also wants to uninstall kde
[04:50] <what_if> its koffice!
[04:50] <what_if> lol
[04:52] <mitd> what is diiference 'tween http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu and .../kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu ?
[04:54] <Dragnslcr> mitd- they're different repositories, so they'll have different packages
[04:56] <KDesk> what_if: the problem is that kdelibs5 conflicts with the package kformula, I don't know why, maybe a mistake by some dev
[04:57] <mitd> thx, am upgrading to 4.3.1 (on 9.04) using backports and saw other ppa mentioned thx again
[04:57] <Mist_> sigh.. timeout with remote smb share.. what the frack is wrong now with this.. agh.. ffs what is it with kubuntu and networking stuff not working.. geesh.. less time throw in arch and config it and it works than this..
[04:57] <KDesk> mitd: but the backports one has kde 4.3.1 and the other has 4.2.4... beter use the backports one
[04:57] <VK7HSE-Eee> The default network manager in Karmic alpha5 for some reason doesn't want to sync with my WAP (40bit) however I have overcome this issue by using WICD ...
[04:58] <Mist_> starting to feel being on a windows machine even..
[04:58] <theadmin> Mist_ maybe something with the share itself?
[04:59] <Mist_> I gone really deep.. 777 deep in fact. And all share config is open for all. Still it announce itself.. but it refuse to work and just time out.
[04:59] <mitd> roger that good tp know since I am 25 mins into upgrade lol
[04:59] <KDesk> what_if: you can fix this (not sure, but almost) by installing/upgradeing to kde 4.3
[04:59] <what_if> I will just wait
[04:59] <KDesk> what_if: and kde 4.3 is better than 4.2 :)
[05:00] <what_if> i'm sure kde 4.3 will be coming soon.
[05:00] <what_if> it would be great if that update fixed this problem
[05:00] <theadmin> KDesk: It will, when they release 9.10. what_if: It'd come around october
[05:00] <what_if> hmmm...
[05:01] <KDesk> what_if: why? it can take some days or weeks, come one, upgrade. with the ppa
[05:01] <KDesk> what_if:  this is the ppa url: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[05:01] <theadmin> KDesk: 4.3 has some issues on 9.04
[05:01] <KDesk> what_if: and the repo:   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[05:01] <Mist_> im just tired.. but 2 days not getting it to work after countless forum threads and questions and tries.. it is just not like it should be for someone that fiddled linux since 93..
[05:02] <Mist_> maybe kubuntu just.. hates me...
[05:02] <KDesk> Mist_: what happend to you?
[05:03] <Mist_> kubuntu and smb share etc happened..
[05:03] <KDesk> theadmin: ah, didn't knew.. what is wrong?
[05:03] <theadmin> KDesk: He can't connect to a samba share
[05:03] <theadmin> KDesk: Plasma does not start, some other issues
[05:04] <KDesk> theadmin: the only issue I had was that in the upgrade it killed/restarted the xserver.
[05:04] <theadmin> KDesk: Well, that is normal. It needed to upgrade KDM ;)
[05:04] <Mist_> KDesk: the share is there.. set anyone to be able to connect, view and write to it. And folder and everything under is 777 chmoded. Group even set to smbshare.. it just refuse and timeout from this 9.04 ubuntu machine. This smb client works.. work towards pclos2007 and 2009 box and windows and itself so.. hmm..
[05:05] <Mist_> logfile.. need to.. look logfile.. sleep.. not an option.. failure.. not an issue.. must..
[05:07] <theadmin> Mist_: Hey, Linux is not windo$e, it won't solve your problems. Unfortunately for some, but it really lets you learn your pc.
[05:07] <what_if> KDesk: than you for your help. I will see what else I can find out about his issue
[05:11] <KDesk> what_if: sorry I could relly help with  the problem, you can try installing from ppa koffiec 2.1 beta 1
[05:11] <what_if> I'm compiling the kformula from source.
[05:11] <KDesk> theadmin: but it can upgradeit without killing kdm, after that i had to continue the upgrade manually
[05:11] <what_if> That will solve all my dependency issues
[05:12] <KDesk> what_if: ah, yea, it seems to be a shorter way
[05:12] <Mist_> theadmin: Yeah I know.. I started out with slakware in 1993 compiling my OS..
[05:14] <Mist_> theadmin: and now it is 2009, and things like gfxcard drivers arent stuffed in default like it should, network doesnt work like it should and displayed, shares dont work out of the box, remote doesnt work like it should and so on.. the most basic and most used stuff around and they dont work.. 16 years later..
[05:14] <Mist_> But that is not the issue in general for me..
[05:15] <theadmin> Mist: I know... So i've asked, is the share itself working?
[05:16] <Mist_> theadmin: it should but it doesn't ^^ But.. it works towards this box that has exakt same setup, permissions, kubuntu 9.04 as well.. it is really weird
[05:17] <KDesk> Mist_: hmm, I had once a porblem with samba or nfs, I had to manually change some file in /etc maybe  /etc/hosts.allow
[05:17] <theadmin> Mist_ So, as far as i get it, it just sudennly stopped working?
[05:18] <Mist_> theadmin: configured both at same time. The other box doesn't work of these two, he he
[05:18] <Mist_> But.. I might be on to something maybe..
[05:18] <Mist_> ah yes..
[05:18] <Mist_> the other box.. lack /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:19] <Mist_> why is beyond me..
[05:19] <Mist_> that file should be there.
[05:19] <Mist_> Since all config utils have the settings and take them from somewhere..
[05:19] <theadmin> Mist_ Copy it from working box?
[05:21] <Mist_> sounds like an option atm yes.. but why isn't it there.. something of these 2 boxes failed on the other one with that config file.. still samba-configure-utility get it settings from smb.conf. But if it isn't there.. it shouldnt be able to.. still it has all correct data..
[05:23] <theadmin> Mist_ I have a smb.conf in many places, so it might be another one. Take a look at that list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/265904/
[05:26] <theadmin> How do you enable graphical login for root? Just wondering :D
[05:33] <theadmin> Never mind, found it
[05:42] <Mist_> so weird.. everything checks out.. still not working.. only thing I can now think of is that this box have the kernel after the other one installed..
[05:43] <Mist_> bet its one of these things being to tired to see the truth.. and will solve it during sleep or see it through fresh eyes after rest.. :)
[05:45] <luke> got a hardware question/problem anyone here a mobo expert?
[05:52] <Mist_> ok.. now I get pissed.. suddenly it starts working.. argh I hate when that happen and I dont know why...
[05:53] <Mist_> this is it.. im going to bed.. sob.. gl guys and girls.. im confused..
[05:56] <jci> hello
[05:56] <jci> I'm looking for some help connecting my ubuntu laptop to a mac mini's Airport connection
[05:56] <jci> Is this the right place?
[06:01] <pipegeek_> anyone know which package contains the kde4 theming control panel?  It doesn't seem to get installed along with systemsettings.
[06:01] <hector> Hola
[06:01] <pipegeek_> hi
[06:06] <jci> hello?
[06:08] <surfinmdq_> hi, i wanted to install Koffice but I don't if I should do a sudo aptitudo koffice or just a sudo aptitude koffece-kde4
[06:08] <surfinmdq_> so, what you say!?
[06:11] <theadmin> Hello again. I wanted to know what is the "loop" part in "sudo mount -o loop somefile.iso /media/isodevice"
[06:12] <surfinmdq> sorry I closed the IRC client, so, what should I install, plain koffice package or koffice-kde4? I'm running KDE4
[06:15] <theadmin> surfinmdq: We discussed a problem a few minutes ago, in which koffice tried to remove KDE with installing. Go with openoffice.org :)
[06:17] <surfinmdq> theadmin: koffice trying removing kde? weird! it's like outlook trying remove windows lol
[06:17] <surfinmdq> theadmin: very much thanx for this critical advice :D
[06:21] <surfinmdq> another one: which solution do you recommend to make a 1:1 copy of my / partition (clone it)? it would be invaluable to have it restored in minutes if there's any problem when installing/upgrading my current Kubuntu
[06:21] <surfinmdq> I remember some time ago using Remastersys, very great soft, but may be some other options out there
[06:24] <theadmin> surfinmdq: you might try clonezilla... I don't know much of those, really, but well.
[06:24] <theadmin> fsarchiver is a way too
[06:25] <theadmin> oh, also, partimage
[06:25] <surfinmdq> theadmin: cool, tnx again pal :)
[06:25] <surfinmdq> see you!
[06:39] <jci> I'm looking for some help connecting my ubuntu laptop to a mac mini's Airport connection
[06:39] <jci> Is this the right place?
[07:09] <kalp> hi,which is latest intel processor?and its price
[07:09] <kalp> ?
[07:11] <_tj> intel.com ?
[07:13] <bdizzle> hi, I Just noticed something rather odd a moment ago. I am running Kubuntu 9.04 on a laptop that is currently unplugged and running off of battery. Yet the Power Management believes that it is charging for some reason (obviously it is not, as the % decreases and it is unplugged)
[07:50] <jlilly> hey folks. I need to install the kde4 development libraries to install a kde4 based package. I'm running 9.04 (ubuntu, not kubuntu). Any help? Figured this was the place to ask as its a question about kde libs.
[07:59] <dwidmann> jlilly: try install kdebase-dev kdebase-workspace-dev kdelibs-dev and libqt4-dev and then try
[08:01] <dwidmann> jlilly: **kdelibs5-dev, actually - oh, and you'll need cmake too
[08:05] <jlilly> thx
[08:05] <jlilly> I have cmake.
[08:41] <surfinmdq> hi, what's the name of the package that have the tools to compile!?
[08:47] <surfinmdq> i need to compile latest digikam and can't run a ./configure
[08:47] <surfinmdq> so i need to install the compiler packages
[08:47] <surfinmdq> but i don't know which are they :(
[08:56] <Leobuntu> try "build-essentials"
[08:57] <surfinmdq> Leobuntu: cool, i remember now, that's what i was after, tnx :D
[08:58] <Leobuntu> :)
[09:06] <surfinmdq> Leobuntu: still can't tun ./configure
[09:06] <surfinmdq> i figure i'm missing something, i can't remember the package's name with the tools to compile grrr
[09:08] <theadmin> what is the difference between "sudo -u username" and "su username"??
[09:18] <SoftVision> hi what is the path for the configuration file for grub2?
[09:19] <theadmin> SoftVision: Karmic support in #ubuntu+1
[09:21] <VirtualDisaster> surfinmdq:  build-essential
[09:21] <VirtualDisaster> theadmin:  different programs?
[09:21] <theadmin> VirtualDisaster: Excuse me?
 what is the difference between "sudo -u username" and "su username"??
[09:22] <surfinmdq> VirtualDisaster: hi, yeah, that package is already installed but i keep recivieng: ./configure: no such file or directory
[09:22] <surfinmdq> =(
[09:22] <theadmin> VirtualDisaster: Yeah, but they do pretty much the same thing
[09:22] <VirtualDisaster> surfinmdq: well if the pkg works then  guess youre ok?
[09:23] <VirtualDisaster> theadmin: yeah but they do them differently, so best not to get them confused
[09:23] <VirtualDisaster> i must say kubuntu has come a long way
[09:24] <VirtualDisaster> only issue is 37" monitor
[09:24] <theadmin> VirtualDisaster, i always do "sudo" for console things and "kdesudo (-u when nessecary)" for graphical
[09:24] <VirtualDisaster> but it works so im ok i guess
[09:24] <surfinmdq> VirtualDisaster: sorry, the pkg is installed but i cannot run ./configure because i receive a "no such file or directory" when doing a ./configure from bash :P
[09:24] <VirtualDisaster> theadmin: yeah same
[09:24] <VirtualDisaster> surfinmdq: what?
[09:25] <VirtualDisaster> brb updates done
[09:25] <surfinmdq> VirtualDisaster: nevermind, what i had missing was *just* the gcc
[09:25] <surfinmdq> tnx bro
[09:29] <theadmin> Where should i write to ask a certain thing to be added to repos? Just wondering :D
[09:47] <Taggnostr> hello
[09:48] <Taggnostr> is there a way to upgrade kde from 4.2 to 4.3 even if it's not in the available updates?
[09:48] <theadmin> Taggnostr: you need to add the backports repo
[09:49] <Taggnostr> actually I only need to upgrade konsole
[09:49] <theadmin> Taggnostr: eh, what's wrong with 4.2 one?
[09:50] <Taggnostr> with konsole 2.2.2 I have a problem that make it crash, and a used with 2.2.3 and kde 4.3 wasn't able to reproduce it, so maybe it's fixed now
[09:51] <theadmin> Taggnostr: Konsole separately not available in backports repo, sory
[09:53] <Taggnostr> do you know when kde4.3 will be added to the updates?
[09:53] <theadmin> Taggnostr: October.
[09:54] <Taggnostr> I guess I can survive another month
[09:54] <Taggnostr> do you want to try to reproduce my problem? what version do you have?
[09:55] <theadmin> Taggnostr: 9.04 JJ, KDE 4.2.2
[09:56] <Taggnostr> if you want to try here is how (warning, all your konsole may crash): 1) open konsole 2) type 'python' and hit enter 3) paste print u''.join(map(unichr, range(0x1d400, 0x1d7ff))).encode('utf-8') and hit enter
[09:57] <theadmin> Taggnostr: crash with signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
[09:58] <Taggnostr> yep, same here
[09:58] <theadmin> You can try using gnome-terminal
[09:59] <robin0800> theadmin: works fine in gnome
[09:59] <theadmin> robin0800: Ofcourse. GNOME is generally more stable.
[09:59] <Taggnostr> it used to work on kde3
[10:01] <Taggnostr> gnome-terminal is not installed and requires several other packages, are there other terminals already installed in kubuntu?
[10:01] <theadmin> Taggnostr: No, unfortunately.
[10:03] <theadmin> Taggnostr: Try installing gnome-terminal, it asks for only 2 packages for me so not a problem
[10:03] <Taggnostr> for me it says 0 upgraded, 67 newly installed, 0 to remove and 45 not upgraded.
[10:04] <theadmin> 67? paste a list to http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[10:04] <Taggnostr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/265993/
[10:06] <theadmin> Okay it tries to install GNOME i think. Forget that then.
[10:07] <Taggnostr> ok, can I also remove those packages at line 5-6?
[10:08] <theadmin> Taggnostr: Use "sudo apt-get autoremove", that would remove them if they really are not needed
[10:09] <Taggnostr> ok, done
[10:09] <Taggnostr> well, thanks for all the help
[10:10] <theadmin> Taggnostr: You might also try asking on kubuntuforums.net, maybe there is a fix
[10:12] <rubyist> what package are kde dev files in?
[10:13] <theadmin> rubyist: "kde-devel"
[10:21] <rubyist> thanks theadmin
[10:21] <rubyist> has anyone tried to install the kate filetree plugin?
[10:22] <rubyist> I keep getting.. in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.
[10:22] <rubyist> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[10:22] <rubyist> i don't see any option to select where the KDE libs are(from ./configure --help)
[10:25] <jonathan__> hello
[10:28] <jonathan__> ?
[10:28] <theadmin> jonathan: Yes?
[10:29] <jonathan__> hello just testing irc on kubuntu
[10:30] <jonathan__> where do you get help installing qt and c++?
[10:30] <theadmin> Jonathan__: Here of course :)
[10:30] <jonathan__> yeah
[10:31] <jonathan__> is there a easy package way or does it have to be manual?
[10:31] <theadmin> jonathan__ Meh, look in synaptic there. There are too many packages listed so i'm not sure which one is needed
[10:32] <jonathan__> yeah... i did but allegdly those ones update
[10:33] <jonathan__> everyone calls it synaptic but mines called kpackagekit
[10:34] <theadmin> jonathan: Kpackagekit is not fully working yet. Press alt+f2, type konsole, press enter, type sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:34] <Mamarok> theadmin: why? he is better off with the command line
[10:34] <Mamarok> jonathan__: also, if you have KDE installed, so is Qt, KDE doesn't run without Qt and C++
[10:35] <theadmin> Mamarok: O_O
[10:35] <theadmin> I don't even quite know what Qt is
[10:35] <jonathan__> kk but i would liket o develop
[10:35] <Mamarok> jonathan__: then check out kdevelop, it should install everthing you need
[10:36] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[10:36] <jonathan__> i already installed kdevelop
[10:36] <Mamarok> well, then start it :)
[10:36] <jonathan__> kk
[10:36] <jonathan__> theres like 8 launchers in the menu
[10:37] <Mamarok> kjona
[10:37] <Mamarok> jonathan__: sorry, there is a help file attached
[10:37] <Mamarok> theadmin: Qt is the basic framework for KDE, as well as GTK+ is for Gnome
[10:38] <jonathan__> ok so i opened kdevelop for c/c++
[10:38] <Mamarok> jonathan__: also, for developing in KDE, see http://techbase.kde.org
[10:38] <jonathan__> that me done ready for some coding?
[10:39] <Mamarok> jonathan__: have you coded before with an IDE? It's pretty much the same as all IDEs
[10:39] <jonathan__> yeah only was delphi in windows
[10:39] <jonathan__> lol
[10:39] <theadmin> jonathan__ Nothing windows counts
[10:40] <jonathan__> ok well i drew a wee house with open gl on opensuse
[10:40] <Mamarok> jonathan__: check out that link above and read, there is not much I can do else for you, also #kde will be more of help, this channel here is more for users than developers
[10:40] <jonathan__> but someone else setup my work station
[10:40] <jonathan__> kk
[10:40] <Mamarok> jonathan__: I can't read documentation for you, that is something you will have to do yourself
[10:41] <theadmin> eeek! How do i stop a ping? O_O it started and ain't finishing
[10:41] <Mamarok> theadmin: Ctrl+C
[10:41] <rubyist> gr
[10:41] <Mamarok> theadmin: else, close the konsole tab
[10:41] <jonathan__> what is commands to get current version of stuff like gcc and qt ?
[10:41] <Mamarok> jonathan__: which Kubuntu do you use?
[10:42] <theadmin> Mamarok: Ctrl+c worked :)
[10:42] <jonathan__> the jaunty one :0
[10:42] <jonathan__> its highly groovy
[10:42] <Mamarok> jonathan__: well, you will have to upgrade to KDE 4.3.1 first, developing for earlier versions is of no use, see the channel topic plase
[10:43] <Mamarok> jonathan__: and if you have kdevelop, you have the correct versions of Qt and gcc for the KDE versions you are using already
[10:43] <jonathan__> ok ok nice
[10:43] <theadmin> How can i prompt a user to enter a variable in a shell script?
[10:44] <Mamarok> jonathan__: please, read that website I gave you, you will have to read some documentation first, and get yourself a good book for C++
[10:44] <Mamarok> jonathan__: the one y Daniel Molketin is state of the art for developing in Qt
[10:44] <Mamarok> by*
[10:46] <Mamarok> theadmin: with a script? same for you, read documetnation, script writing means reading docs first
[10:46] <theadmin> Mamarok: Okay, i'll google around
[10:46] <Mamarok> theadmin: check the bash documentation
[10:46] <theadmin> Mamarok: "man bash"?
[10:47] <Mamarok> theadmin: why don't you just try?
[10:49] <jonathan__> cant find book by this guy
[10:49] <jonathan__> but found interesting blog
[10:49] <Mamarok> jonathan__: wait, I will tell you
[10:50] <Mamarok> jonathan__: first result in Google, btw: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Qt-Art-Building-Applications/dp/1593271476/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1252230620&sr=1-2
[10:52] <Mamarok> jonathan__: also please check here: http://qt.nokia.com/products
[10:53] <jonathan__> u spelt his name wrong earlier :P
[10:55] <jonathan__> so i design forms in this qt4 designer and write code in the kdevelop
[10:55] <Mamarok> jonathan__: nope, you use either kdevelop or Qtdesigner, but not noth
[10:55] <Mamarok> both*
[10:55] <jonathan__> o
[10:56] <Mamarok> kdevelop is specific to KDE, Qtdesigner has a broader target
[10:56] <Mamarok> but if you are a beginner in C++, read first, then you choose
[10:57] <jonathan__> i did c++ in uni
[10:57] <jonathan__> mostly embedded stuff
[10:58] <jonathan__> most ppl in my work seem to code in kdevelop using the qtdesigner to draw their forms
[10:58] <jonathan__> my qt desinger help>about claims its version 4.5 :)
[11:00] <jonathan__> which version of linux do u have man?
[11:02] <Mamarok> jonathan__: guess what: Kubuntu 9.04 :)
[11:02] <jonathan__> u like it?
[11:03] <Mamarok> that is a strange question in a #kubuntu channel
[11:03] <Mamarok> jonathan__: this channel is for support only, please take discussions to #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <Mamarok> and yes, of course, else I wouldn't be here
[11:03] <jonathan__> lol
[11:03] <jonathan__> ok
[11:07] <rabidweezle> !alsa
[11:11] <_tj> !mp3
[11:11] <rabidweezle> is pulseaudio *needed* ?
[11:11] <rabidweezle> I'm getting sound issues with wine
[11:11] <rabidweezle> !pulseaudio
[11:15] <jonathan__> ohh yeah can i ask about wifi help in this channel?
[11:16] <josef_> hey
[11:16] <rabidweezle> don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[11:16] <josef_> know someone a software to make musik in ubuntu?
[11:17] <rabidweezle> audacity
[11:17] <josef_> for*
[11:17] <josef_> is that for ubunut =O
[11:17] <rabidweezle> yep
[11:17] <rabidweezle> sudo apt-get install audacity
[11:17] <jonathan__> wifi will not reconnect automatically on boot i have to manually start it
[11:17] <josef_> nice one
[11:17] <josef_> i had that on windows ^^
[11:17] <rabidweezle> jonathan__: is it because of the kde keyring asking for a password?
[11:17] <josef_> thank you allot
[11:17] <rabidweezle> for the wep password
[11:18] <rabidweezle> np josef_
[11:18] <josef_> bye =P
[11:18] <jonathan__> i dont know
[11:18] <jonathan__> when it boots it appears to just try the wired connection
[11:19] <jonathan__> then i just press the wifi
[11:19] <rabidweezle> a wire hooked up?
[11:19] <rabidweezle> cause if not, that sounds like a waste of time
[11:19] <jonathan__> asks for a wallet password and then its good, but i would like it to reconnect automatically
[11:20] <jonathan__> ??
[11:20] <rabidweezle> I was able to do that in opensuse with using ifup somehow :/
[11:20] <rabidweezle> don't ask me how though, it was through their networking stuff
[11:22] <jonathan__> get it to auto connect ?
[11:23] <rabidweezle> I just checked kde wallet... and I can't make it auto login to itself :(
[11:23] <robin0800> jonathan__: there is a tick box in network manager for that
[11:24] <rabidweezle> yeah, mine autoconnects to my router as soon as I login to my wallet
[11:24] <jonathan__> yeah and can you get wallet to auto connect to?
[11:24] <rabidweezle> I wish
[11:24] <rabidweezle> I just checked, and it has no such option :(
[11:25] <jonathan__> ok sorry for my noobness
[11:25] <jonathan__> i found the autoconnect button
[11:25] <robin0800> rabidweezle: gnome dosn't even ask for that only if you wish to change it
[11:25] <jonathan__> so i will still have to type in wallet password
[11:26] <jonathan__> ?
[11:26] <rabidweezle> yeah, but gnome doesn't have a sexy plasma desktop
[11:26] <rabidweezle> yes jon
[11:27] <Mamarok> please, could we stay on topic? It is not relevant what Gnome does or does not, we are talking KDE here
[11:28] <Mamarok> rabidweezle: autologin kdewallet is not going to work, it is a security feature, if you don't want to enter a password, then don't use it
[11:28] <Mamarok> autologin would override that security, hence maing a wallet useless
[11:28] <Mamarok> making*
[11:28] <jonathan__> well i do want security but i dont want to have to tell wifi to connect
[11:29] <jonathan__> if wireless is set to autologin will it just prompt for wallet password?
[11:29] <Mamarok> jonathan__: if you use the wallet, you have one password, and you just have to allow the network to use the wallet always, then you don't have to enter something
[11:29] <rabidweezle> I think it's for like corporate security than home security for the wifi access, since if you get on a corporate wifi on a stolen laptop you can do real monitary damages
[11:29] <Mamarok> jonathan__: but you should also upgrade to KDE 4.3.1, this is not going to work in 4.2.2 IIRC
[11:30] <rabidweezle> so it's good it's in there
[11:30] <jonathan__> how to you find out my current version
[11:30] <jonathan__> how to i update?
[11:30] <Mamarok> rabidweezle: it doesn't matter if it's for corporate or private, it's a security feature, if you don't want it, don't use it, as simple as that
[11:31] <Mamarok> jonathan__: well, if you have a basic Kubuntu 9.04 without having added other repositories to the sources then it is 4.2.2
[11:31] <Mamarok> just open dolphin or any other KDE application and check the Help menu -> about KDE
[11:31] <rabidweezle> 4.2.2
[11:31] <Mamarok> jonathan__: for updating, check the channel topic, please
[11:31] <Mamarok> I told you so earlier
[11:31] <jonathan__> yes but i am a noob
[11:32] <Mamarok> well, then maybe read some basics on the Kubuntu.org website and wiki then?
[11:32] <jonathan__> no im still reading the other things :)
[11:33]  * rabidweezle adds the backports repo
[11:34] <Mamarok> jonathan__: well, before starting to develop for KDE you should read the basics on how to use KDE I think, but that is just a suggestion
[11:34] <jonathan__> ok it says
[11:34] <jonathan__> 4.2.2
[11:34] <rabidweezle> arg... repo in chicago is down.... ...switches repos
[11:35] <Mamarok> jonathan__: if you type /topic you will see the link to KDE 4.3.1 and how to upgrade, but as I said, there are websites like Kubuntu.org and the wiki that give some help, too
[11:35] <jonathan__> i see
[11:36] <jonathan__> thanks man
[11:36] <rabidweezle> !offtopic|rabidweezle
[11:36] <jonathan__> why do links open in konkrer and not firefox
[11:36] <Mamarok> jonathan__: you are welcome, but I am not a man :)
[11:37] <jonathan__> lol no way
[11:37] <Mamarok> jonathan__: because it is the default browser, firefox is not a KDE application
[11:37] <jonathan__> can i choose to make firefox default easily
[11:37] <jussi01> jonathan__: system settings -> default applications
[11:37] <Mamarok> yes, in the system settings
[11:37] <Mamarok> jussi01: thx :)
[11:37] <rabidweezle> first thing I did was that
[11:38] <rabidweezle> jonathan__: I suggest making yourself familier with that system settings dialog, it's extrememly usefull
[11:39] <jonathan__> just type firefox
[11:39] <jonathan__> into
[11:39] <jonathan__> in the following browser: ?
[11:39] <rabidweezle> it should be on the list if firefox is installed
[11:39] <jussi01> jonathan__: yeah, just type firefox
[11:39] <jonathan__> ok i got it
[11:39] <jonathan__> thanks geting all problems sorted
[11:40] <rabidweezle> good deal :)
[11:40] <jonathan__> ok i was also looking a wee dolphin beside my kickoff launcher in my main panel
[11:41] <jonathan__> do i use a launcher?
[11:41] <Mamarok> jonathan__: you can launch any application wit Alt+F2, then type the application name
[11:41] <jonathan__> but i want the icon in the panel aswell
[11:42] <rabidweezle> I made a nice little drop down quick launch panel on top with my favorite icons on autohide :)
[11:42] <jussi01> jonathan__: just make sure your icons are unlocked, then you can drag and drop from the menu
[11:42] <jonathan__> no way! really?
[11:43] <rabidweezle> yeah, if you sit down and play with kde for a while, it's loaded with all sorts of customizing options like that
[11:43] <rabidweezle> I also suggest kde-look.org for more customizing options
[11:43] <jonathan__> oh dear it looked like it wanted to add to my panel but now my launcher wont open :(
[11:44] <rabidweezle> launcher for what?
[11:44] <jonathan__> i got my launcher menu kickoff
[11:44] <jonathan__> back
[11:44] <jonathan__> but i cannot add any items to the panel
[11:45] <jonathan__> is it cause of the old kde
[11:45] <jonathan__> i must upgrade
[11:45] <rabidweezle> right click and click add to panel
[11:45] <jonathan__> awesome
[11:45] <rabidweezle> least that's how I do it
[11:45] <jonathan__> lol
[11:46] <jonathan__> i have to add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main to sources list?
[11:47] <rezonans19> Всем привет
[11:48] <rabidweezle> there's probably a gpg key to go with that
[11:48] <jonathan__> :s
[11:48] <jonathan__> yeah
[11:48] <rezonans19> Hello to All
[11:48] <jonathan__> hello
[11:48] <rezonans19> Is anybody from Russia?
[11:48] <rabidweezle> !russian
[11:48] <rabidweezle> :)
[11:49] <rezonans19> Yes I am a russian.
[11:49] <rabidweezle> that's the russian support channel if you need it
[11:49] <rabidweezle> :)
[11:50] <rezonans19> Linux rezonans-19-mainframe 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 ia64 GNU/Linux
[11:50] <rezonans19> uname -a ???
[11:51] <Mamarok> rezonans19: was this a question?
[11:52] <jonathan__> ok so i dont know what a gpg key is
[11:52] <rezonans19> Yes. I mean it is very interesting to know
[11:53] <rezonans19> Sorry for my English
[11:53] <Mamarok> !gpg | jonathan__
[11:54] <Mamarok> it is used to signe repositories to guarantee the source not being corrupt or shipping malware
[11:54] <rezonans19> Also see http://silverghost.org.ua/public-gpgkey/
[11:55] <rezonans19> and it http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-ru/2009-February/000301.html
[11:55] <rezonans19> and it http://www.google.ru/search?q=gpg+key&hl=ru&newwindow=1&lr=lang_ru&ei=vpSjSpG0JtO1sgaNgs3SBA&sa=X&oi=lrtip&ct=restrict&cad=8
[11:56] <Mamarok> rezonans19: stop that, please!
[11:56] <rezonans19> Ok
[11:56] <jonathan__> lol
[11:56] <Mamarok> I think the official links I gave are enough for now
[11:56] <jonathan__> so much reading
[11:57] <Mamarok> jonathan__: well, you want to be a developer, no? Then you can't do without reading
[11:57] <Mamarok> food time, later
[11:57] <jonathan__> but its basically a public encryption key madness
[11:57] <Mamarok> why madness?
[11:57] <Mamarok> it is very useful
[11:57] <jonathan__> is local dialect
[11:57] <jonathan__> ::))
[11:58] <rezonans19> :)
[11:59] <jonathan__> ok if i go to sources file it wont allow me to save :(
[12:00] <Mamarok> jonathan__: did yu read the procedure to downlod the key?
[12:00] <Mamarok> download*
[12:01] <Mamarok> also, /etc/apt/sources.list is a system file, you need to open it with sudo rights
[12:01] <jonathan__> well i did those two commands
[12:01] <jonathan__> ohh ok
[12:01] <Mamarok> and if you open it with kate, this would be 'kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[12:02] <Mamarok> as all GUI applications need kdesudo instead of sudo
[12:02] <Mamarok> else it will cause file permission problems
[12:02] <jonathan__> i did su
[12:02] <Mamarok> Kubuntu and Ubuntu doesn't use su, it's sudo
[12:03] <jonathan__> and now when i kdesudo it says no protocol
[12:03] <Mamarok> you can't use du as there is no admin password, for security r4easons again
[12:03] <Mamarok> well, kdesudo command, not just kdesudo alone :)
[12:04] <jonathan__> says root@jonathan-laptop:/home/jonathan# kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:04] <jonathan__> No protocol specified
[12:04] <jonathan__> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[12:04] <Mamarok> if you want to edit it on the command line, that would be sudo nanon /etc/apt/surces.list, this will open a command line ditor
[12:04] <Mamarok> editor*
[12:04] <Mamarok> well, as I said: kdesudo kate
[12:05] <jonathan__> no still says the same thing but i am logged in a su
[12:05] <jonathan__> should i try without being logged in
[12:05] <Mamarok> jonathan__: of course you should not be logged in as root, never
[12:05] <jonathan__> noob
[12:05] <Mamarok> type exit to get out of there
[12:06] <jonathan__> i am
[12:06] <Mamarok> well, if you don't have a root prompt anymore, now the command should work
[12:06] <jonathan__> ohh
[12:07] <jonathan__> we are in
[12:07] <jonathan__> it works
[12:07] <jonathan__> so i just add that line and my repositories will always use newest kde??
[12:07] <rezonans19> Mamarok: How I can set an encoding in Kate? I try change it to CP-1251, but it give me an alert message: "Не возможно поменят кодировку текста, обратитесь к разработчику"
[12:08] <Mamarok> well, yes, as long as the Kubuntu ninjas package for Jaunty
[12:08] <Mamarok> rezonans19: you should avoid ISO encoding, use UTF
[12:08] <Mamarok> and I don't read Russian, sorry
[12:08] <jonathan__> so long as what?
[12:08] <rezonans19> Mamarok: Thanks for advice (or advance?).
[12:09] <jonathan__> advice
[12:09] <jonathan__> :)
[12:09] <Mamarok> jonathan__: well, as long as there will be packages backported to Jaunty, you can use that sources.list
[12:09] <jonathan__> ohh
[12:09] <jonathan__> so they have to release them to that list then i can get them
[12:09] <jonathan__> ?
[12:10] <Mamarok> ok, now I am really away to eat, jonathan__ , please read some basic information in kubuntu.org and the wiki there, we can't learn for you, you really need to read that yourself
[12:11] <jonathan__> enjoy your food
[12:13] <jonathan__> with deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main in the sources.list what next??
[12:14] <lakis1982> hello .. i want to specify a command of suspend to ram  to a multimedia key of my keyoboard so that when i press it , the pc goes to sleep mode....  do you know what's the command that i should assign please???
[12:19] <jonathan__> ??
[12:19] <lakis1982> hello .. i want to specify a command of suspend to ram  to a multimedia key of my keyoboard so that when i press it , the pc goes to sleep mode....  do you know what's the command that i should assign please???
[12:24] <Mamarok> jonathan__: patience :)
[12:24] <Mamarok> jonathan__: saved the file already?
[12:24] <jonathan__> i have little patience :P
[12:24] <jonathan__> i have to run apt-get install KDE?
[12:24] <Mamarok> well, this is a community support, for impatient people there is paid support available, too :)
[12:25] <Mamarok> jonathan__: run sudo apt-get update
[12:25] <Mamarok> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:26] <Mamarok> and be patient, it's faster to upgrade than any Windows, but still needs some time to proceed :)
[12:29] <jonathan___> hello
[12:29] <jonathan___> ?
[12:29] <Mamarok> jonathan__: did you read what I said above?
[12:29] <jonathan___> i got disconnected :(
[12:30] <Mamarok> ok, once more:
[12:30] <jonathan___> i managed to run sudo apt-get update
[12:30] <Mamarok> jonathan__: run sudo apt-get update
[12:30] <jonathan___> now its runing sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[12:30] <Mamarok> the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:30] <jonathan___> kk
[12:30] <Mamarok> and be patient, it's faster to upgrade than any Windows, but still needs some time to proceed :)
[12:31] <jonathan___> if i get disconnected while im upgrading will it resume upon reconnect?
[12:31] <jonathan___> (PLEASE say yes)
[12:32] <Mamarok> well, just restart that
[12:32] <Mamarok> and get yourself a stable connection...
[12:33] <Mamarok> jonathan___: and read the instructions given on the screen
[12:33] <Mamarok> did it finish the update process?
[12:33] <Mamarok> else you might have to run sudo apt-get update again before dist-upgrade, to make sure oyu have everything
[12:33] <Mamarok> once the udate is done, it's working locally anyway
[12:34] <Mamarok> and get yourself a stable connection...
[12:34] <jonathan__> lol
[12:34] <jonathan__> im at mums house
[12:34] <Mamarok> jonathan___: ethernet doesn't disconnect that easily, and it's more stable than a shaky WiFi connection
[12:36] <Mamarok> well, if the upgrade finished correcty and the files downloaded, it should proceed without problems, but upgrading with an unstable connection is not the best idea
[12:36] <lakis1982> hello .. i want to specify a command of suspend to ram  to a multimedia key of my keyoboard so that when i press it , the pc goes to sleep mode....  do you know what's the command that i should assign please???
[12:36] <Mamarok> lakis1982: check the system settings -> keybpoard & mouse, and the power management in the advance tab
[12:37] <Jim_Morrison> Can I upgrade KDE ?
[12:37] <lakis1982> mamarok ichecked t but there is no option to add a combination key
[12:37] <Mamarok> Jim_Morrison: a bit more information about where you want to upgrade from mmight help
[12:37] <Jim_Morrison> Thx Mamarok
[12:37] <Mamarok> lakis1982: of course there is, if your keyb0oard is fully supported, there certainly is
[12:39] <lakis1982> i press this combination but it only locks..it doesnt suspend to ram
[12:39] <meta_> Hi all
[12:40] <Mamarok> lakis1982: you need to assign it yourself then
[12:40] <meta_> I know that it is possible to make a tun device, which (ssh) tunnels _all_ of my conenctions via a server
[12:40] <lakis1982> i press this combination but it only locks..it doesnt suspend to ram
[12:40] <meta_> Is there a howto for it, or anybody knows the exact name of this technique (as i'm not found anything, maybe because i don't know the name of it)
[12:40] <lakis1982> ctrl alt l
[12:41] <Mamarok> lakis1982: did you  check the Power management settings in system settings -> Advanced tab?
[12:41] <lakis1982> yes
[12:41] <lakis1982> it doesnt have hotkeys there
[12:42] <Mamarok> lakis1982: please, read the global shortcuts available in the keyboard & Mouse settings
[12:42] <Mamarok> for global Power Manager
[12:42] <Mamarok> and assigne the key combination you need there
[12:43] <lakis1982> mamarok im in global settings now and there i no option for suspend to ram
[12:44] <lakis1982> so ?
[12:45] <jonathan__> ok its done...
[12:45] <jonathan__> how do i know it worked?
[12:46] <Mamarok> jonathan__: if you have nothing held back and everything installed, just check with sudo-apt-get dist-upgrade again to be sure
[12:46] <Mamarok> then you can restart KDE if you have everything installed and no error messages
[12:46] <jonathan__> how d you restard
[12:46] <Mamarok> logout
[12:46] <jonathan__> restart *
[12:46] <Mamarok> no, log out
[12:46] <jonathan__> ok well i owe you many thanks
[12:47] <Mamarok> check the menu
[12:47] <Mamarok> lakis1982: and your multimedia keyboard mapping is correct ?
[12:47] <lakis1982> what do you mean ?
[12:48] <Mamarok> well, you need to have your keyboard layout working correctly, then you have acces to advanced keys, too
[12:49] <lakis1982> 2 button of my keyboard are not working only.. when i try to assign a command on them it gives me :   this button isnt supported by qt
[12:51] <Mamarok> well, that's not a big issue, as "Suspend to Ram is a sysrq action, so assigning that shouldn't be a problem, did you read that: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-146186.html
[12:52] <Mamarok> ok, off for the day, later :)
[12:54] <lakis1982> yes
[13:17] <jonathan__> hello everyone
[13:19] <jonathan__> ??
[13:22] <jonathan___> ?
[13:23] <slow-motion> hi
[13:23] <jonathan___> hi how do you remove the stats graph in kde 4.3.1 which sits on the desktop after install?
[13:24] <jonathan___> :D
[13:28] <jonathan__> how do you remove the stats graph in kde 4.3.1 which sits on the desktop after install?
[14:02] <cst> hello
[14:02] <cst> is there any turk users?
[14:11] <tanderson> hi
[14:11] <tanderson> Are kubuntu amd64 livecds supposed to work with intel core2duos?
[14:15] <Dragnslcr> I would assume so
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:55] <mrwoody> does anyone know how to install the latest version of digikam? is there a repository for that?
[14:58] <miriam_> channel italy?
[14:58] <miriam_> loffio
[14:58] <miriam_> ma nn posso reastare
[14:58] <miriam_> su un canale
[15:03] <BluesKaj> !it | miriam__
[15:04] <neco198> i have problem for graphic
[15:06] <ivan_> hi
[15:06] <ivan_> to all
[15:07] <andreime_> hello... i have a question; i am trying to install toggle-compositing plasmoid and in the help file it says something like (Where $KDEDIR your kde installation directory)... where is the installation directory in ubuntu?
[15:07] <neco198> one half of the high image quality while the other bad
[15:07] <andreime_> this is the full code ~$ cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=($KDEDIR) ../
[15:08] <andreime_> any ideas?
[15:10] <ivan_> restart pc
[15:11] <andreime_> why?
[15:11] <ivan_> because
[15:14] <andreime_> ... you are a sad person
[15:14] <ivan_> no
[15:18] <BluesKaj> andreime_, I think it's in /usr
[15:20] <andreime_> BluesKaj, thanks for the tip someone tolled me that kde4-config --prefix helps to find that out
[15:21] <BluesKaj> andreime_, yup , I see that
[15:32] <ubuntu_> suup
[15:35] <ivan_> ivan
[15:35] <ivan_> kjk
[15:38] <Nesmero> всем привет)
[15:56] <BluesKaj> !ru | Nesmero
[15:57] <fire> hi, can anyone help me with kopete?
[15:58] <Nesmero> what`s wrong?)
[15:58] <fire> before on kde3.5 I used it to conect to messenger and used my webcam, was this function canselled in kde 4.3?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Nesmero, nothing , we can't read cyrillian script here
[16:00] <Nesmero> to which messanger?
[16:00] <fire> msn
[16:03] <fire> yes, before on kde3 there was a button for sending and recieving webcam and now in kde4 there is none
[16:04] <Nesmero> i don`t know
[16:04] <Nesmero> i use my w-cam only for skype
[16:04] <fire> that is what I've been doing so far, but I have contacts that don't have skype accounts
[16:05] <fire> and I don't know why but amsn support for web cam conversations fails
[16:06] <BluesKaj> fire, amsn is an alternative to kopete , afaik it's webcam capable
[16:07] <BluesKaj> oh ok , fire , didn't know that amsn fails ..bummer
[16:07] <fire> I know, actually I used amsn before, but liked better the gui of kopete, and now I have installed amsn but the webcam is somehow not working propperly with amsn
[16:10] <matthias_> hi, using cpufreq-set -c0 -d 800 Mhz I can change the minimum, though after a reboot I have to set that again, what can I do about this?
[16:10] <martijn81> anyone willing to help with making the wiki of an open source application better?
[16:11] <martijn81> the KTorrent wiki need a lot of extra work
[16:12] <fire> matthias_ you could write a simple script and run it automaticaly on startup
[16:12] <matthias_> fire: where do I have to store such script?
[16:13] <pc> I just upgraded to 9.10 alpha 5 and I can't connect to my wifi. What can I do?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> pc ask 9.10 questions in #ubuntu+1 , we can help you there
[16:14] <fire> depends on weteher you ant to run it every single time or only when specific users sign in
[16:14] <pc> I just saw the info on this channel and I copy/pasted my question there, thanks BluesKaj
[16:15] <BluesKaj> right
[16:15] <matthias_> fire: every single time and not depending on X or anything graphic realted, so as soon as the pc boots
[16:24]  * nit is away: Gone away for now
[16:24]  * nit is away: Gone away for now
[16:25]  * nit is back.
[16:33] <nit> how do i remap my trackpad buttons separate from my trackpoint ones?
[16:37] <the_madman> Lo everyone.
[16:37] <the_madman> So I'm having a problem with Nepomuk.
[16:38] <the_madman> When I try to activate it, it shows this error message in a console: "(Soprano::PluginManager) found no soprano plugin at  "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so""
[16:38] <the_madman> Thing is, I double-checked and that file does actually exist.
[16:38] <the_madman> I'll paste the whole thing now.
[16:40] <the_madman> http://pastebin.com/d5d82769c
[16:43] <philipp__> hi
[16:45] <proctis> hi philipp__
[16:45] <philipp__> kann mir jemand schnell helfen?
[16:45] <proctis> maybe. But could you speak english ?
[16:47] <philipp__> oh sry i thought this is an german irc chatt
[16:47] <rethus> does kubuntu same community like ubuntu, or this an other developer?
[16:47] <philipp__> i think this is kubuntu
[16:48] <oobe> rethus, kubuntu and ubuntu are the same if you ask me
[16:48] <oobe> they are part of the same community
[16:49] <Dragnslcr> rethus- Kubuntu is part of the Ubuntu project, though there may be different developers that focus on Kubuntu
[16:49] <rethus> jes, only ubuntu has gnome, and kubuntu kde
[16:49] <rethus> ah, ok
[16:49] <rethus> cause i want to switch to a debian-based desktop
[16:49] <rethus> and i use kde and would not like to change
[16:50] <oobe> yeah then get kubuntu
[16:50] <oobe> its good
[16:50] <oobe> i think naming ubuntu and kubuntu causes too much confusion
[16:50] <oobe> they are really both the same just named differently based solely on choice of desktop
[16:51] <rethus> i have look at this before (i'm not a linux newby) and i remember there was other like xubuntu and so on.. but i need stable system and kde
[16:51] <oobe> kubuntu is a nice choice
[16:51] <rethus> so like i know linux... it not have to be hard to migrate suse kde to kubuntu kde ?
[16:51] <rethus> i'm right
[16:51] <oobe> plus you can update to the newest kde using backports
[16:51] <Dragnslcr> The different editions all use the same repositories, they just have different packages installed by default
[16:52] <rethus> ok, i didn't want to live on the edge... kde 4.2 are enough
[16:52] <oobe> well said Dragnslcr
[16:52] <Dragnslcr> So Xubuntu has XFCE installed by default instead of Gnome
[16:52] <oobe> 4.3 has less bugs
[16:52] <oobe> and its easy to upgrade
[16:52] <rethus> and thats the reason why i not use debian itself.. software-releases are to old... or if i have to choose "unstable"
[16:53] <rethus> oobe: but its not stable declared from kde-team ?
[16:53] <oobe> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1
[16:53] <Dragnslcr> Debian is generally intended for server use, where you need more long-term stability
[16:53] <oobe> http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3.1.php
[16:54] <oobe> yeah it is stable
[16:54] <oobe> was made stable not long ago
[16:54] <rethus> oobe: wow, nice to know :)
[16:54] <oobe> i had a few issue's with kde 4.2 4.3 fixed them all
[16:55] <rethus> dragnslcr: problem wit debian... if u still want to use php5 yout have to use backports. That are not a real solution.
[16:56] <Dragnslcr> Really? PHP5 has been out for something like 4 years. I could see Debian still being on something like 5.1.6, but I can't imagine it not having PHP5 at all
[16:56] <oobe> rethus, i think you will have a great time with the ubuntu repo's you can get everything that is newest and stable
[16:56] <rethus> mhh. i mean i have read 5 minutes ago such a article on Ubuntu vs. debian-page
[16:57] <oobe> the huge thing that makes debian different is that there idea of stability is too strict making development and updates too slow
[16:58] <oobe> on the other hand there support is miles in front
[16:58] <oobe> most ppl on help forums for *buntu are newbs who just learnt somthing and are looking to answer questions that they dont understand
[16:59] <oobe> no offence to anyone here just my opinion
[17:00] <rethus> oobe: so i will try to migrate from suse 11.0 to kubuntu... Are there some tips to migrate? I would install kubuntu and than mount my home/partition... install all programms that i nee... and then i think.. it should work... what u meand
[17:00] <oobe> but if you are already experienced with linux and can use google well then that shouldnt be a problem
[17:00] <oobe> rethus, that sounds like it will work
[17:01] <rethus> have do so many times with suse, cause suse doesn't have the nice Distribution-upgrading like debian (only still at 11.1 and new zypper... but know is to late ;)
[17:01] <oobe> you may need to overwrite or remove some old configs in you ~/ folder
[17:02] <rethus> oobe: why
[17:02] <oobe> they may not be compatable
[17:02] <oobe> this is purely a guess
[17:02] <oobe> i think for the most part using your old home partition should be fine
[17:03] <proctis> Easy question: I how can i get Expose like efect in kde ?
[17:04] <rethus> does the kuuntu community such big like ubuntu community?
[17:04] <oobe> no ubuntu is more popular
[17:04] <proctis> rethus: who knows ?
[17:04] <rethus> what are good forum-pages to get help?
[17:04] <oobe> but most technical problems are not DE specific anyway
[17:05] <oobe> ubuntuforums.org
[17:06] <dwidmann_> proctis: if you have effects turned on, slam your cursor against the top left corner and attempt to keep going
[17:06] <Dragnslcr> proctis- System Settings -> Desktop
[17:06] <bobbob1016> How can I get the data transfer notifier to show megabits per second, instead of mebibits or whatever it is showing now?
[17:07] <proctis> wow, it's cool
[17:08] <rethus> oobe: what u meand "not DE specific way"? how can a technical problem "DE specific be"
[17:08] <Dragnslcr> proctis- System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges has an Activation delay setting that you might be interested in changing
[17:08] <proctis> ok, thx
[17:09] <Dragnslcr> If you set it to 0, it'll show all of the windows immediately when your mouse hits the corner, instead of needing to keep pushing the mouse
[17:09] <rethus> oobe: and i see... kde 4.3 is very "eye candy" (theme air)
[17:10] <oobe> exactly most techincal problems are not DE specific
[17:11] <rethus> oobe: but what means this... at the moment i not remember to any DE secific problem?
[17:11] <rethus> u mean with umlauts (Umlaute)
[17:11] <oobe> DE = Desktop enviroment
[17:12] <oobe> all i mean is if someone has a for e.g network issue why are they posting it in a forum as a kubuntu specific issue
[17:12]  * nit is away: Gone away for now
[17:12] <rethus> ah (ups) i think u mean DE for Germany
[17:12] <oobe> this slows down the process of support
[17:13] <rethus> oobe: ok, but i find some help for this on ubuntu-forum ?!
[17:13] <rethus> or in kde-forum?
[17:13] <oobe> i think you seem to know enough i would just install kubuntu from cd
[17:13] <oobe> and take it from there
[17:14] <oobe> you will need to format a fresh / partition
[17:14] <oobe> then mount your /home partition afterwards
[17:14] <oobe> u could even back up your existing / before you do
[17:15] <rethus> u mean in my suse-system... create a new partition, install kubuntu at it, start on this part. and mount my home... reconfigure the kubuntu-home and try it?!
[17:17] <oobe> yeah if you want
[17:17] <oobe> all you need is 10GB+ of empty space
[17:17] <oobe> the installer can resize partitions if you wish
[17:18] <rethus> so i have choose now. Next update are a migration du kubuntu !
[17:18] <oobe> i dont know what you mean
[17:18] <oobe> do you mean when is the next version of kubuntu coming out
[17:19] <rethus> no, i mean, that i not migrate now or tomorrow, but if i update my linux system.. i migrate to kubuntu
[17:19] <rethus> means from suse to kunbuntu
[17:20] <rethus> i love linux, i love kde and i think i will love kubuntu in future - cause its stable like debian
[17:20] <rethus> thanks a lot, for your support.
[17:20] <oobe> ok good luck
[17:21] <rethus> thanks... in future (if i have migrate to kubuntu) i'm much often here
[17:46] <mick_> I'm having trouble with WINE
[17:47] <mick_> When I try to run WINE, my computer slows down, but the program never opens.
[17:47] <mick_> Hello?
[17:48] <mick_> Anybody on this channel?
[17:49] <fire> what version of wine do you use?
[17:49] <mick_> 1.0.1, I think.
[17:49] <mick_> Ubuntu 8.10
[17:50] <fire> and what program do you want to run with wine?
[17:50] <mick_> WeatherBug.exe, but this happens with everything.  I can't even open WINE configuration.
[17:51] <fire> what bottle of wine are you using?
[17:51] <mick_> I don't know.
[17:51] <fire> mm.. not even the configuration?
[17:51] <mick_> Nothing ever seems to happen.  I eventually have to go into System Monitor and kill the wineserver process.
[17:52] <fire> but wine is running in the background right? after you try to run a program
[17:52] <franz_> Hello. Totally new to Kubuntu 9.04 after having been on different KDE3 versions up to 8.04.  Now, after having installed a new program, how can I have it in the start menu (if it does not show up there by itself) ? I couldn't find how to manage this new start menu in KDE4
[17:52] <mick_> I guess so
[17:53] <fire> franz_you can manage in menu editor
[17:53] <mick_> It briefly appears in the taskbar, but nothing ever runs in the foreground.
[17:53] <mick_> Ever.
[17:53] <franz_> fire: thanks but if I am asking it means i haven't found yet how to access it!  ;-)
[17:54] <fire> mm why don't you try a reinstall? it's been a long time since I used wine, try crossover
[17:54] <mick_> Is it free?
[17:55] <fire> yofranz_ you can access it by right clicking or in the lancelot menu there is a button in the top right corner that gives you access to a menu there you can click on the menu editor
[17:56] <fire> sorry mick_ it's not free, but runs way better than wine, even though it uses some things of wine
[17:56] <franz_> Thanks fire    One more question: how do I add anew icon for a program on my desktop?  It was so easy before.....
[17:56] <fire> you can add it as a widget
[17:57] <fire> simply drag the icon to the desktop
[17:57] <fire> and it will turn into a widget
[17:58] <franz_> what is a widget? I searched a dictionary (not english mothertongue) but i couldn't find this word. I only need a "symbol" to click on it and make a program start
[17:58] <fire> is that program you want to start in the kmenu?
[17:59] <franz_> yes
[17:59] <fire> ok, just open kmenu left click on the program's icon and drag it to the desktop
[18:01] <franz_> ok fire, thanks again.  I'm wondering why they modified a simple procedure like putting a new icon on the desktop into such a clumsy sequence. Why not leaving something that works fine as it is?  It's a silly word!
[18:01] <franz_> world*
[18:02] <fire> prehaps they thought it was easier that way
[18:02] <fire> enven thou I actually don't use the menus, it's easier to run the krunner and launch everything from there
[18:04] <franz_> I agree fire, but sometimes you can't remember the exact spelling or even the name of a program that does a certain task
[18:04] <fire> for that you can change the program's name to an easier one
[18:05] <franz_> doesn't it affect dependencies?
[18:05] <fire> no, just change the name in the menu editor
[18:05] <fire> and so you can call the program with a nickname
[18:06] <fire> keep the same command in the menu editor just change the Name of the program
[18:06] <fire> or call the program with the description of it
[18:06] <franz_> ah ok, i see.... well I will be able to have things the way I like at the end, but I stinn can't understand this mania of changing things when they work fine!
[18:07] <franz_> still*
[18:07] <fire> it's because they changed everything in kde, you could post this coments in the kde blog
[18:08] <fire> and by the way widgets are all the icons and applications that are on the desktop
[18:08] <franz_> i will have a look there, but I bet there is already lots of complains!
[18:09] <fire> like the thermal monitor, or the file viewer or photo viewer and all those things you gind in the add widget menu
[18:09] <fire> actualy there are, but still you can use kde3 just by  compiling it
[18:10] <fire> the windgets are what superkaramba was for kde3
[18:10] <fire> widgets**
[18:11] <franz_> it is a possibility... but is it still supported?  An anyway KDE4 is nice to see.... only it makes things unecessarily less straightforward... after having been on KDE3 for many years
[18:12] <fire> it just takes time to get used to it
[18:13] <Guest40079> h
[18:13] <geenux> Hi everyone, I heard about the kate kpart, which now contains a vi-like mode. But I can't find how to use this kpart (for example in konqueror).
[18:14] <franz_> see: when 6 years ago I switched to linux from Windows (After having been on Win3.1-95-98-XP) it was much easier than switching from KDE3 to KDE4!  This is crazy!
[18:18] <franz_> or may be I'm simply getting old....
[18:19] <fire> ohh.. well it was also hard fot me, I was used to mandrake's kde3 and then went suse kde adn solaris, and yes kde4 is different, but you get used to thi's logic easily
[18:21] <snikker> hi, ubuntuone doesn't work with kde4?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> at first I thought kde4 was just more eye candy , but eventually it won me over altho plasma crashes too easlily when launching kate
[18:22] <fire> what version of kde4 are you using bluesKaj
[18:22] <fire> ?
[18:22] <novalgina2fast> hi guys,i have a problem with wireless connection,it doesn't work(i can't active wlan0....)i'm using kde 4.3 and plasma-widget-network-manager
[18:23] <BluesKaj> fire,  4.4.0-8ubuntu2
[18:23] <fire> geenux, it's easy to start kate in vi mode just: in Settings → Configure Kate… → Editing → Vi Input Mode
[18:24] <fire> don't use the plasma widget, use the network managet that apears on the system tray
[18:25] <tspy> hey!
[18:25] <mits> hi... does anyone how to enable alsa mixing? / if alsa mixing is enabled can all the applications output sound simultaneously without problems?
[18:25] <fire> novalgina2fast, use knetworkmanager as it comes
[18:26] <fire> mits you could use pulse inorder to have all the aplications sound simultaneously, just be careful while setting it up
[18:26] <coilette> hehe wow i screwed my KDE up.. bear with me, i need some assistance.. I did a dist-upgrade to 4.31 and now my KDE is all over my screen.. i need t know how to get it back to something like the original
[18:26] <novalgina2fast> yeah but if i install knetworkmanager and not the widget a lot of gnome library came in my pc
[18:26] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: a dist-upgrade from what?
[18:26] <fire> the problem is that in kde4.3 the widget is not 100% functional, at least for me doesn't work
[18:26] <VirtualDisaster> from 8.10 to 9.04?
[18:27] <VirtualDisaster> fire: what widget ?
[18:27] <coilette> KDE 4.2.2 to 4.3.1
[18:27] <mits> fire: i'm using it right now, but it crashes frequently (in karmic) :(
[18:27] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: um thats not a dist-upgrade, thats just pkgs, what distro did you upgrade from and what distro did you update to
[18:27] <novalgina2fast> so i have to take the gnome's library?ok,thanks for all^^
[18:27] <coilette> hag on.. the command was dist-upgrade somethig
[18:28] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:28] <fire> mits well remember that karmic is not a released 100% operational, you have to be used to have bugs in the system, I'm not familiar win karmic, so I can't really help you that way
[18:29] <coilette> sorry i know this os going to spam a few lines >.<..
[18:29] <coilette> sh -c "echo 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[18:29] <coilette> sh -c "echo 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging/ubuntu jaunty main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[18:29] <coilette> apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A
[18:29] <coilette> aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade
[18:29] <fire> VirtualDisaster: the widget I'm talking about is the network manager widget, it doesn't work for me, I use knetworkmanager
[18:29] <FloodBotK2> coilette: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <VirtualDisaster> fire: oic
[18:29] <coilette> yeah i know >.<
[18:30] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: i have no idea what you did all that for
[18:30] <VirtualDisaster> unless you know what youre doing i suggest to stay on latest version ...
[18:30] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: run this command in a terminal so we can see what youre wokring w/
[18:30] <geenux> "to use this kpart (for example in konqueror)."  Yes, I know. But I'm quite sure there is a katepart, and as it is the point of kparts, I should be able to use it instead of all standards text edit area
[18:31] <coilette> i did this only for kopete to work correctly
[18:31] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: cat /etc/lsb-release
[18:31] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: dont justify it :P we've all done similar items before
[18:31] <jamesb_> How do I enable my nvidia drivers?  I saw an icon pop up in the taskbar but it's gone now..
[18:31] <coilette> lol all i need to know is how to set my widgets up. it looks like KDE ate my gui and puked it up at random lol
[18:31] <fire> jamesb: just go to hardware configuration
[18:32] <VirtualDisaster> jamesb_: go to system settings and look for hardware drivers
[18:32] <fire> but if you want the latest nvidia driver you will have to do it the hard way
[18:32] <mits> fire: yeah, i know :( it's just that i got bored with (the non-problematic) jaunty :) thx anyway
[18:32] <coilette> hold on VirtualDisaster.. kickpad is gone, gotta find konsole
[18:32] <jamesb_> The hard way? I kinda like the sound of that..
[18:32] <VirtualDisaster> fire: lets keep people using the recommended items
[18:32] <VirtualDisaster> coilette: alt+f2
[18:32] <VirtualDisaster> then type in terminal
[18:32] <jamesb_> That's why I'm using Kubuntu.. time to learn a new OS..
[18:32] <fire> jamesb: download the latest driver form the nvidia drivers (google it)
[18:33] <VirtualDisaster> jamesb_: use drivers from repo
[18:33] <VirtualDisaster> much simpler and they work, (im using it now)
[18:33] <coilette> ohh duh yeah i use ubuntu 9.04
[18:33] <fire> jamesb: if you are new use the repo drivers
[18:33] <jamesb_> VirtualDisaster:  but will this get the latest drivers?
[18:33] <VirtualDisaster> jamesb_: do you want latest or do you want functional?
[18:34] <VirtualDisaster> jamesb_: futhermore keep it simple, dont make learning a new OS more difficult than it has to be
[18:34] <VirtualDisaster> if i would have kept it simple i wouldnt have wasted 3 years on gentoo
[18:34] <VirtualDisaster> actually 2 years and a lil time on arch
[18:34] <fire> VirtualDisaster: I use the latest ones and they work good, just of course you have to recompile adter a kernet update
[18:34] <jamesb_> Ok.. nvidia says latest linux drivers are 185.18.36  .... if I could just get that icon back.. lol.. it asked if I wanted to activate the driver..
[18:35] <VirtualDisaster> fire: im saying dont have new users trying to do semi-advanced items
[18:35] <VirtualDisaster> use what (k)ubuntu offers and learn the base OS
[18:35] <VirtualDisaster> actually learn the OS then go out and do extra stuff
[18:35] <fire> VirtualDisaster: I know, that's why I said that if he was a noob use the repo ones
[18:36] <VirtualDisaster> ic
[18:36] <jamesb_> I'm not seeing driver options in system settings.. I clicked the advanced tab too..
[18:37] <fire> in kmenu go to hardware dirvers
[18:37] <jamesb_> duh.. got it.. lol
[18:37] <fire> good
[18:38] <jamesb_> Installing.. says version (180) .. looks good to me.. .
[18:38] <fire> yes that one
[18:38] <jamesb_> ok
[18:38] <jamesb_> Linux has changed a bit since the last time I actually played around with it..
[18:38] <fire> why do you say that?
[18:38] <jamesb_> Functionality...
[18:39] <jamesb_> Seems much easier.. I've never really used Linux before..
[18:39] <jamesb_> Need to restart.. brb
[18:39] <fire> there have always been many ways for doing things, now it's more graphical
[18:39] <coilette> how do i rebuild my system bar(i think thats what its called) you know with the K! button, taskmanager, desktop selector, system tray..
[18:39] <fire> it's called the panel
[18:40] <coilette> its all in pieces and i dont know how to put them together lol
[18:40] <fire> you deleted it?
[18:40] <coilette> no its all just messed up
[18:40] <fire> in pieces how?
[18:40] <coilette> i may have deleted it.. i dk
[18:40] <fire> it doesn't apear or just the items in it are all messed up?
[18:40] <coilette> i didnt format /home im guessing that my dad messed it up last ngiht
[18:41] <Rasmus> Hello
[18:41] <coilette> i have all the widgets.. there just not attached to a panel.. how do i make it
[18:41] <fire> Hello Rasmus
[18:41] <Rasmus> i really need
[18:41] <Rasmus> somm help
[18:41] <Rasmus> how to pm??
[18:41] <fire> oh, that's easy, right click on the desktop and add a panel
[18:41] <coilette> wow i knew it was something insanely easy
[18:42] <fire> no problem coilette
[18:42] <coilette> its locked?
[18:42] <fire> Rasmus: what do you mean with how to pm?
[18:42] <fire> coilette: what do you mean locked?
[18:42] <Rasmus> i really need some help with my ubuntu pc ;)
[18:42] <coilette> its stuck in the top right, i cant move it
[18:43] <coilette> left actually*
[18:43] <pair0doc> fire my guess is Rasmus means private message.
[18:43] <Rasmus> fire: i need to know how to get two partions to one
[18:43] <fire> coilette: click on the semi circle on the right, that'sthe panel menu
[18:44] <fire> Rasmus: you want to merge the partitions?
[18:44] <personal> ¿Algun canal en español?
[18:44] <Rasmus> fire: what does merge mean??? imn from sweden
[18:44] <fire> personal: yo hablo español
[18:44] <Rasmus> fire: i got to partions but i just want to have one
[18:44] <pair0doc> merge == combine
[18:44] <fire> Rasmus: what do you want to do with the partitions?
[18:45] <Rasmus> fire: get them together
[18:45] <Rasmus> fire: so they will be just one partion
[18:45] <fire> Rasmus, but do you want to keep the info that is in both partitions?
[18:46] <fire> Rasmus: or just combine the space?
[18:46] <Rasmus> fire: its just info in one of theme
[18:46] <Rasmus> fire: i want to combine the space
[18:46] <jamesb_> This is so much fun.. any recommended reading for noob's?
[18:46] <pair0doc> Rasmus do you have the info (data) backed up?
[18:46] <jamesb_> Resources... things like that?
[18:47] <Rasmus> fire: i got ubuntu on one of them but i want them together
[18:47] <Rasmus> fire: no
[18:47] <fire> jamesb: I recomend you google a lot and mess up with your instalation ( use a separate partition for that)
[18:47] <Rasmus> fire: but i just wanna delete one partion
[18:47] <Rasmus> fire: with gparted
[18:47] <fire> Rasmus: you can use the partition manager of kde
[18:47] <jamesb_> That's what I've heard.. just play and play and play./...
[18:47] <Rasmus> fire: gparded
[18:47] <Rasmus> fire: ??
[18:48] <pair0doc> jamesb_, can I msg ya?
[18:48] <fire> Rasmus: you have gnome or kde?
[18:48] <Rasmus> fire: gnome i think
[18:48] <jamesb_> Of course pair0doc
[18:49] <fire> Rasmus: and you have the partition manager running for gnome?
[18:49] <Rasmus> fire: can i just take my time and write the hool story??
[18:49] <fire> Rasmus, if you are going to write a lot do it in a private window
[18:49] <Rasmus> how to get a private window??
[18:50] <Rasmus> i know
[18:50] <coilette> anybody have any idea what setting in synclient is for the speed the mouse moves when you've come to the edge of the touchpad?
[18:51] <mitd> fire re: Rasmus might be a good idea he do  mount [enter] and see both parts are mounted
[18:51] <fire> yes, he must umount the partition he wants to delete, the thing is that he has one ntfs and has to change it to etc3
[18:52] <chemic> Руддщ! Ш have a question: I mount a partition ext3 but can't paste on it any file . what i s'do
[18:53] <novalgina2fast> hi,me again,i can't activate wireless connection in kde 4.3 after the upgrade from 4.2
[18:53] <fire> novalgina2fast: you want to use the wirget right?
[18:54] <fire> widget*
[18:54] <mitd> novalgina: +
[18:54] <chemic> anybody help me?
[18:54] <novalgina2fast> i'm using knetworkmanager now
[18:55] <fire> novalgina2fast: and it doesn't work with your wireless??
[18:56] <novalgina2fast> it see my home connection but when i click on it...it doesn't do anything
[18:56] <fire> novalgina2fast: have you enabled wireless?
[18:56] <novalgina2fast> yes
[18:57] <novalgina2fast> with kde 4.2 this afternoon worked ç_ç
[18:58] <fire> mm.. :S
[18:58] <chemic> Hello! I have a question: I mount a partition ext3 but can't paste on it any file . what i s'do
[18:58] <lillaka> Hi all, what is the official French Ubunut Channel please ?
[18:58] <novalgina2fast> lillaka, i think #ubuntu-fr
[18:58] <chemic> Hi all, what is the official Russian Ubunut Channel please ?
[18:58] <fire> chemic: are you sure that partition was mouted by you with the correct rights, or maybe it is only owned by root
[18:58] <lillaka> Thanks a lot novalgina2fast
[18:58] <pair0doc> novalgina2fast, can you still connect via a shell to verify that it is just a knetworkmanager issue?
[18:59] <novalgina2fast> pair0doc i don't remember how...sorry
[19:00] <chemic> i mount from console under root priveleges. mount /dev/sdc1 /media/home
[19:00] <novalgina2fast> chemic russian channel is #ubuntu-ru if you want it^^
[19:00] <fire> you have to give yourself priviledges
[19:00] <chemic> how I may mount it from user?
[19:01] <chemic> senks
[19:01] <fire> chermic: you can't mount it from user, but you have to mount it with open privilidges
[19:01] <chemic> how?
[19:02] <alchemist_> some one lives in brazil
[19:02] <fire> the simplest way, run sudo dolphin select the partition you have mounted and right click to change the preferences
[19:04] <mitd> novaL i had same problem (wireless) when upgrading (backports ppa) to 4.3 I had to install kdenetwork 4:4.3.1
[19:05] <fire> I did that too and my knetwork manager works fine
[19:06] <mitd> the plasma? network thingy is broken :(
[19:07] <fire> yes it is
[19:07] <fire> maybe they will fix it later as they fixed the kopete CPU clock
[19:07] <mitd> fire: i also had problems with libindi0?? did you see this?
[19:08] <fire> mitd: I haven't cheked that
[19:08] <novalgina2fast> fire,do you remember how say to network manager to start when i switch on pc?now i have to start it o_O
[19:09] <mitd> its tied into kdeedu specifically kstars if you dont have kdeedu/kstars installed it goes away
[19:10] <fire> novalina2fast: in system manager go to advanced and there in autorun, place the command there
[19:10] <novalgina2fast> ok thanks
[19:10] <fire> wellcome
[19:11] <fire> mitd: I not's use kde edu
[19:14]  * nit is away: Gone away for now
[19:15]  * nit is back.
[19:52] <Rasmus> FIRE!!!!!
[20:05] <coilette> i would like to increase the speed the cursor moves, when my finger hits the edge of the touchpad, anybody know this setting in synclient?
[20:23] <blackmoon> hi, i'm under jaunty and with nvidia 6600gt, kde4 sometime is very slow, on so i must restart the kdm... someone can help me?
[20:26] <coilette> simple reboot take too long o.-
[20:29] <gesco> ciao
[20:29] <coilette> where are programs installed to? looking for the equivelent to
[20:29] <coilette> opps.. "program files"
[20:30] <blackmoon> coilette: what are you looking for?
[20:31] <coilette> well when the download manager for firefox pops up.. and i click open containing folder.. it asks me to select a program to open it with.. i use konqueror right now..
[20:31] <coilette> i need to let firefox know to open the containing folder with konqueror
[20:32] <blackmoon> coilette: konqueror is into: /usr/bin/konqueror
[20:32] <blackmoon> coilette:the folder is /usr/bin/
[20:32] <coilette> thanks blackmoon
[20:32] <blackmoon> no problem
[20:53] <chemic> russian chanel  please
[20:55] <alvinyang916> a
[20:55] <chemic> somthing like #kubuntu-ru but dont worck
[20:57] <chemic> sorry I found
[20:58] <unknown1> how to request to lift a ban on a username, any other ways that in #ubuntu-ops?
[21:04] <unknown1> a
[21:08] <Psi-Jack> There's not a karmic RC release CD/DVD yet is there?
[21:08] <vavrek> no
[21:08] <Psi-Jack> Okie dokie. ;)
[21:08] <apparle> I have two mirrors setup in sources.list -- 'in.archive.ubuntu.com' and '10.1.11.48' a local mirror.........whenever I donwload any package how to select which source to download from
[21:09] <novalgina2fast> hi guys,i can't connect in wirelles then the upgrade from kde 4.2 to kde 4.3
[21:09] <novalgina2fast> wireless*
[21:10] <Hiisty> apparle: why u have local mirror?
[21:10] <apparle> it is setup by our college.........we get download speed of around 12MBPS
[21:13] <apparle> !wifi | novalgina2fast
[21:13] <apparle> novalgina2fast: remove the current network-manager package and install wicd
[21:15] <apparle> Hiisty: ??
[21:18] <novalgina2fast_> i have done it,after?
[21:18] <vavrek> apparle: 1st rule: mirror with newer version of package is used; 2nd rule: mirrors are used according to their pales in sources.list
[21:18] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, well, this sucks. Kubuntu 9.04 DVD torrent seems to be doing be absolutely no good.
[21:18] <vavrek> pales == places
[21:18] <Dragnslcr> Psi-Jack- most recent test version of 9.10 is alpha 5
[21:19] <vavrek> Dragnslcr: exactly...
[21:19] <Psi-Jack> Dragnslcr, Yeah, well, I'm trying to just get my FreeNAS server to download 9.04's ISO for DVD or CD.
[21:19] <vavrek> and I was also having problem toeven start Xserver on ATI graphic card (RS780)
[21:20] <vavrek> on Karmic
[21:20] <Hiisty> apparle: i don't know how to solve that, but if that local mirror is always up to date, then what is the reason to use offical repo?
[21:21] <Psi-Jack> Oh, nevermind! It's working, just wasn't refreshing.
[21:22] <vavrek> Psi-Jack: http://ubuntu-releases.sh.cvut.cz/kubuntu/9.04/
[21:22] <Psi-Jack> I got it.
[21:22] <Psi-Jack> It's downloading, just transmission webUI wasn't showing updates proper.
[21:23] <vavrek> god-sake why You are using torrents to get kubuntu ?
[21:23] <Psi-Jack> vavrek, Because it works well, and it downloads it straight to my NAS server which has a burner.
[21:23] <Psi-Jack> I'm downloading both the DVD and CD ISO for 9.04 Kubuntu, at each averaging 1.2MB/s
[21:24] <Psi-Jack> So, yeah. Question is, why would I NOT use Torrent?
[21:25] <vavrek> torrent is p2p... so usually you are not only downloading but also uploading
[21:25] <vavrek> waste of bandwidth
[21:25] <Psi-Jack> vavrek, I have 20Mb/s down, 10Mb/s up, and it's QoS'ing the upstream.
[21:26] <Dragnslcr> vavrek- some people don't consider providing extra bandwidth to help distribute Ubuntu a "waste"
[21:26] <Psi-Jack> Dragnslcr, Exactly.
[21:26] <apparle> vavrek: both the mirrors are up to date and I tried changing the order
[21:26] <novalgina2fast> ok,i have installed wicd
[21:26] <Psi-Jack> I mean, yeah, I'm downloading at extremely high speeds, and sharing it back at about 40KB/s for others also downloading.
[21:27] <Psi-Jack> But, right now, Upload rate is 0B/s, so only I am downloading right now.
[21:27] <Psi-Jack> Occassionally it'll show a few KB/s upload, but not so much.
[21:27] <coilette> So correct me if im wrong, but if i where to reinstall kubuntu, and not format sda7 (/home) all my settings will stay?
[21:27] <vavrek> Dragnslcr: Psi-Jack: I think there is enough university servers and other which do this.. no reason to use torrent... http / ftp protocols are more accessible (and less restricted by providers) thn p2p
[21:28] <Psi-Jack> vavrek, p2p is not restricted at all.
[21:28] <apparle> novalgina2fast: try configuring it..........because I don't know wireless, never had my own
[21:28] <apparle> !wifi | novalgina2fast
[21:29] <vavrek> lots of ISP do restrictions to p2p the biggest reason why - is that p2p makes lots of connection for each download/uplod and involve high load to providers (
[21:29] <vavrek> nevermind
[21:31] <Psi-Jack> vavrek, I wouldn't pay a provider to restrict me in any way. I would choose more wisely.
[21:31] <[agatha]> good evening, i have a question... lately my computer freezes without any apparent reason most of times i am using firefox but some others it just dies, the hard disk stops working and noting will work. is there any way to check what might be going on?
[21:32] <vavrek> coilette: in global Yes... but maybe You want to backup some files from /etc (like fstab xorg.conf)
[21:34] <vavrek> [agatha]: look into /var/log/syslog*
[21:36] <coilette> i need somehting new to tincker with lol.. hmm what should i look into next
[21:37] <coilette> proprietary ATI drivers in jaunty was utter fail.. but there must be somehting
[21:38] <coilette> oh.. does anybody know if theres anything i can do about the scrampled image of the last session when reboot and log in?
[21:38] <coilette> scrambled*
[21:38] <coilette> that must happen to other people right?
[21:40] <vavrek> everything taht happend to your machine is logged to /var/logdmesg* and also /var/log/syslog*
[21:40] <coilette> you dont get this weird image when you log in?
[21:40] <vavrek> I have no idea which other information you wnat to get
[21:40] <vavrek> which image ?
[21:41] <coilette> ts like a screenshot of the session you where in before you reboot/shut down, but its somewhat scambled like your video drivers are messed up
[21:42] <vavrek> never seen :-)
[21:46] <coilette> vavrek when you log in do you see a picture at all when after the login screen, before you see the desktop?
[21:46] <coilette> !mp3 editor > coilette
[21:46] <coilette> !fail
[21:49] <coilette> where does amarok2 store its playlists?
[22:05] <jamesb_> Folks I'm having trouble installing Java runtime environment.. I'm trying to install Sun Java but I keep getting an "unknown" error ....
[22:25] <pinucset> hi, I've just installed kubuntu 8.04 and after some updates when I boot it starts without kwin (no titlebars, etc.); if i start it (alt+f2 + kwin) i have titletables but I don't have the name of the applications in the panel
[22:25] <pinucset> do you have some solution? :S
[22:27] <coilette> would anybody be up for giving me a hands on tutorial for retrieving code from a repo, and compiling from source?
[22:28] <coilette> something i've always wanted to learn!
[22:37] <coilette> nobody can help me compile source? i figured everybody but me knew how to do that
[22:38] <Dragnslcr> There should be a README or INSTALL file with the source code
[22:55] <Spaceman> coilette: do you like fps games? have a look at Nexuiz www.alientrap.org the forums have lots of help for compiling the game
[22:55] <Spaceman> it's a 3 part compile, all fairly quick
[22:55] <Spaceman> 1 compile the game engine Darkplaces
[22:55] <offermann> N'Abend
[22:56] <Thor> namd
[22:56] <Spaceman> 2 compile the game code compiler Fteqcc
[22:56] <offermann> oh
[22:56] <Spaceman> 3 compile the game code
[22:56] <offermann>  where is the german chat?
[22:56] <Spaceman> #kubuntu.de ?????
[22:57] <Spaceman> #kubuntu.german
[22:57] <Dragnslcr> !de | offermann
[22:57] <Spaceman> #kubuntu.germany
[22:57] <Spaceman> just a wild guess
[22:58] <Bi-Boy25> uo
[22:58] <Bi-Boy25> donde estoy
[22:58] <Bi-Boy25> ?
[22:59] <offermann> #kubuntu-de
[22:59] <offermann> #kubuntu.de
[22:59] <Hiisty> what?
[23:09] <Bi-Boy25> i need help
[23:10] <Bi-Boy25> to connect a server
[23:10] <Bi-Boy25> who help 4 us...
[23:10] <Noi25> woo
[23:12] <david___> hello
[23:12] <Spaceman> Noi25: you appear to be connected to a server
[23:12] <Noi25> maybe
[23:13] <Noi25> some spanish persone
[23:14] <Noi25> to speak about,how can i conected to a server 4 spain windows...thanks!!
[23:54] <coilette> i have a hung application, how do i kill it
[23:55] <Spaceman> run top, kind the id_number, kill -9 id_number
[23:55] <Spaceman> cya chaps
[23:57] <coilette> isnt there a GUI process manager?
[23:57] <coilette> i saw it before i just dont remember where