[02:12] <maxb> loggerhead go boom :-(
[03:56] <letas> hello everyone
[03:57] <MTeck> hi
[03:57] <letas> I am new to the python language and I thought that the best way to learn it would be to develop an application and have it where everyone could see it and help, so my question is, what features would you like to have in a backup application!?
[03:58] <letas> I am thinking on developing an initial release locally and then upload it to launchpad
[03:58] <MTeck> letas: probably not the best place to ask about that.. You could however start by looking into what is already out there and start with the features you like
[03:58] <letas> oh sorry :(
[03:59] <letas> thank you though!!!
[05:49] <DBO> launchpad be giving 500 errors...
[06:19] <MTeck> DBO: no it's not
[06:19] <DBO> yeah I keep getting internal server error, I guess 500 isn't actually in there
[06:19] <DBO> guess I dont know where thats coming from
[06:19] <DBO> erm
[06:19] <DBO> where that came from
[06:19] <DBO> it was in my brain :)
[06:20] <wgrant> DBO: bazaar.launchpad.net?
[06:20] <DBO> yeah
[06:20] <wgrant> It seems a little dead, and has been for a few hours.
[06:20] <wgrant> Everything else is OK, though.
[06:21] <DBO> yeah but thats the bit I need :P
[06:22] <MTeck> DBO: stop complaining - it works and you know it
[06:23] <DBO> MTeck, the voices in my head tell me to inform you that it indeed does not work a lot of the time
[06:24] <MTeck> DBO: Take drugs to silence them
[06:24] <DBO> MTeck, but you are one of the voices in my head, and I *know* how to silence you
[08:38] <lantash> QUESTION: How can I mark a series as translatable? Until now only the trunk series of LottaNZB could be translated (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/lottanzb), but I'd like to add the 0.5 series. 0.6 aka trunk will introduce some major string changes and I'd like to give all translators the possibility to complete the 0.5 translation so that we can have a 0.5.1 maintenance release.
[08:57] <lantash> Manually editing the URL made it possible to request an import for the 0.5 series. Wonder if the 0.5 series will show up in the "list of translatable series" after the successful import. There's either no way of reaching this page (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/lottanzb/0.5) or it's not obvious enough.
[10:04] <spm> maxb: is bounced, should be right from here
[10:04] <wgrant> spm: Much better; thanks.
[10:17] <spm> my bouncing services here is done; back to enjoy the last few hours of fathers day :-)
[10:17] <Ryan52> I asked this in the wrong channel apparently:
[10:17] <Ryan52> 02:14 < Ryan52> I have access to private bug reports (I'm in the bug control group), however I don't get notification via email of new private bugs on packages I'm subscribed. is there any way I can make this  happen?
[10:17] <Ryan52> 02:14 < Ryan52> I understand that email is insecure, but maybe it could send a gpg encrypted message?
[10:17] <Ryan52> 02:14 < Ryan52> or it could just send a mail with "oh look, there's a new bug here: http://..."
[10:19] <wgrant> Ryan52: New private bugs are deliberately not sent to bug contacts, as anybody can be subscribed.
[10:19] <wgrant> Ryan52: New security bugs are by design only sent to ubuntu-security.
[10:19] <wgrant> New apport bugs only the apport retracer.
[10:19] <wgrant> This is unlikely to change.
[10:20] <Ryan52> "New private bugs are deliberately not sent to bug contacts, as anybody can be subscribed."
[10:20] <Ryan52> huh?
[10:20] <Ryan52> I'm subscribed to the pakcage it's reported against.
[10:20] <spm> wgrant: just reading my email - see what you meant on Fri(?) about personages spamming bug reports created by losas. o_O
[10:20] <wgrant> Ryan52: Anybody can subscribe to a package's bugs.
[10:20] <Ryan52> yes, I know.
[10:20] <Ryan52> but I have access to the special bugs.
[10:20] <Ryan52> and I'm subscribed.
[10:20] <wgrant> spm: Yes. He didn't get suspended quite as quickly as I'd hoped.
[10:20] <Ryan52> so it should tell me.
[10:20] <Ryan52> it shouldn't tell people who don't have access but are subscribed.
[10:21] <wgrant> Ryan52: bugcontrol can't see all private bugs.
[10:21] <wgrant> Ryan52: Are you sure you didn't get subscribed after the last notification was sent?
[10:22] <wgrant> Ahh. I think I see what's happening.
[10:22] <spm> wgrant: heh. well "he
[10:22] <wgrant> That's a good question.
[10:22] <wgrant> Probably worth filing a bug about.
[10:22] <spm>  " is zapped now; will cleanup tomorrow. later.
[10:23] <wgrant> Because implicit subscriptions perhaps should apply to private bugs if the subscriber is already subscribed through a team.
[10:23] <wgrant> Hmmmm.
[10:23] <wgrant> Difficult.
[10:23] <wgrant> spm: Great.
[10:23] <Ryan52> wgrant: okay, what should I report the bug against?
[10:23] <wgrant> Ryan52: 'malone'
[10:25] <shakaran> I have a problem with bzr diverged-branches. My local brach have 11 revision. I add a new commit (this is revision 12), but on lauchpad, the bot commit 3 revisions after 11, then the launchpad bzr have 14 revisions, and I get a problem with diverged-branch, How to fix it?
[10:25] <shakaran> If I do bzr merge, says: bzr: ERROR: No location specified or remembered
[10:27] <Ryan52> wgrant: bug created, #425127 if you care, thanks!
[10:29] <wgrant> Bug #425127
[12:27] <BUGabundo> I made a boo boo
[12:27] <BUGabundo> can I rename launchpad.net/mustard-android to launchpad.net/mustard-statusnet??
[12:28] <wgrant> BUGabundo: You need to ask an admin to do that. Ask a question on the launchpad project.
[12:29] <BUGabundo> thanks wgrant
[12:29] <BUGabundo> wgrant: at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/ ?
[12:29] <wgrant> BUGabundo: Precisely.
[12:31] <BUGabundo> thanks once again
[13:30] <lantash1> QUESTION: How can I mark a series as translatable? Until now only the trunk series of LottaNZB could be translated (https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/lottanzb), but I'd like to add the 0.5 series. 0.6 aka trunk will introduce some major string changes and I'd like to give all translators the possibility to complete the 0.5 translation so that we can have a 0.5.1 maintenance release.
[13:49] <Bushman> hi guys
[13:49] <Bushman> can someone tell me where can i find THE LINE mentioned in:
[13:49] <Bushman> Step 6: Now copy the second line from the apt sources.list entries section of the PPA overview page and paste it in just as you did in steps 4 and 5.
[13:50] <Bushman> of https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware
[13:51] <Bushman> since on the https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA there's not mention bout the sources.list
[13:51] <Bushman> while it's linked as "PPA overview"
[13:52] <\u03b5>  /etc/apt/sources.list?
[13:52] <\u03b5> ah
[13:52] <wgrant> Bushman: How did you find that page?
[13:53] <\u03b5> can you link to a PPA overview?
[13:59] <BUGabundo> hey again
[13:59] <BUGabundo> how do I create a Master Project that will have sub projects and code inside them?
[13:59] <BUGabundo> wgrant: ^^ ;)
[14:00] <wgrant> BUGabundo: That's a project group. A project group has nothing except for projects inside it, and can only be created by a Launchpad administrator.
[14:00] <BUGabundo> ok
[14:00] <BUGabundo> so I need to open a new Question
[14:00] <BUGabundo> :)
[14:01] <BUGabundo> I need to have the project created 1st, right?
[14:01] <BUGabundo> tell me so :)
[14:01] <wgrant> BUGabundo: A project cannot be converted into a project group.
[14:01] <wgrant> BUGabundo: so do not create a project with the name of your intended project group.
[14:01] <BUGabundo> tooooo llaaaatteeee
[14:01] <BUGabundo> :(
[14:01] <BUGabundo> damn it
[14:02] <BUGabundo> I should know this things :(
[14:02] <BUGabundo> I'm a dumbass
[14:02] <BUGabundo> thanks once again
[14:02] <BUGabundo> need to go now
[14:05] <Bushman> wgrant: how? hmm... it was on one of the project's page as the way of installing stuff
[14:09] <Bushman> \u03b5: in /etc/apt/sources.list there's no "launchpad" section, and the only entry is what i've added in step 5
[14:10] <\u03b5> [14:54] <\u03b5>: can you link to a PPA overview?
[14:10] <wgrant> Bushman: That's not really the right page to link to.
[14:11] <wgrant> Bushman: They should link to a page of the form 'https://launchpad.net/~<USERNAME>/+archive/<PPANAME>'
[14:11] <Bushman> then what is it doing there AT ALL?
[14:11] <wgrant> Bushman: That has the sources.list line in question, and better instructions.
[14:11] <wgrant> Bushman: Because those instructions make sense if you know about the PPA page.
[14:12] <wgrant> Which you presumably do if you're accessing those instructions, unless somebody else has gone and linked there without giving context.
[14:12] <Bushman> damn, i gtg, bbl and then i'll finnish it, thenks for the tips anyway
[14:12] <Bushman> wgrant: yea, i have the project main page, thanks
[14:12] <Bushman> later
[14:12]  * Bushman is gone
[16:43] <Pretto> hey, i need help, can someone take a look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/266176/
[16:47] <\u03b5> maybe that's a private branch?
[16:47] <\u03b5> hm
[16:48] <\u03b5> does it only happen with that branch? maybe your launchpad-id is wrong
[16:52] <Pretto> \u03b5, found the problem, lost my ssh keys when upgraded ti karmic
[16:52] <Pretto> \u03b5, thank you
[16:52] <\u03b5> yw
[16:55] <Pretto> \u03b5, by the way, I am a member of ubuntu brazilian council, that is administrator of a team called ubuntubrazilian, for some reason a member of the council has no privileges to change the team data
[16:55] <Pretto> \u03b5, is that a bug?
[16:55] <\u03b5> I'm no LP admin, sorry
[16:57] <Pretto> \u03b5, ok, thank you anyway
[16:57] <\u03b5> Pretto, https://help.launchpad.net/HelpRotation
[17:00] <Pretto> \u03b5, thank you, i will talk to Ursinha  ;)
[17:07] <sebp> I uploaded a .pot file to get imported about 3 hours ago and it still isn't imported. shouldn't it be imported manually by now?
[22:33] <lifeless> thumper: I need help
[22:36] <thumper> lifeless: so do I
[22:36] <lifeless> thumper: \o/
[23:03] <p_masho> is there a wiki with a launchpad project ? I cant see the links
[23:04] <thumper> p_masho: not yet
[23:04] <thumper> p_masho: it is one of the most frequently asked for things
[23:04] <thumper> and is likely to be comming at some stage
[23:04] <thumper> can't commit to a time frame yet though
[23:04]  * p_masho oooooh thats the first thing i need to mrite some stuff about
[23:04] <p_masho> thumper: jsut make a simple one like github
[23:05] <thumper> p_masho: well... there are plans
[23:05] <p_masho> aham.. blueprints
[23:05]  * p_masho ducks ..
[23:05] <thumper> :)
[23:06] <p_masho> I was also expecint the bluerint to be somewhere where i could write my plan...
[23:06]  * p_masho maybe uses twitter as a wiki.. one sentence at a time..
[23:11] <thumper> p_masho: dev.launchpad.net
[23:13] <p_masho> thumper: what thats a wiki I can use ?
[23:13] <mahfiaz> is it possible to manage launchpad translations oldfashioned way using svn?
[23:14] <thumper> p_masho: yes, for ideas and plans for LP
[23:14] <thumper> p_masho: help.launchpad.net also for helpful stuff
[23:14] <thumper> mahfiaz: what do you mean "manage" ?
[23:15] <mahfiaz> thumper, I would like to do translation without launchpad
[23:15] <thumper> mahfiaz: Launchpad doesn't make you us it ?!? What is your problem?
[23:15] <thumper> s/us/use/
[23:16]  * p_masho (child like).. but i want my own wiki so i can can play in my own sandbox... (snivel,,weeps.. drop tears onto icecram.. icecream falls in sandbox... sKKKKreaMMMMMMMM)
[23:16] <thumper> p_masho: the team leads of the LP project are meeting at the end of the month, and wikis will be on the agenda
[23:17] <mahfiaz> thumper, sorry, I didn't quite understand the first sentence
[23:17] <thumper> mahfiaz: yes, typo - "Launchpad doesn't make you use the translations feature.  What problem are you trying to solve?"
[23:19] <mahfiaz> thumper, I would like to checkout ubuntu translations over svn (or something else) and commit these back in, just to avoid the web interface
[23:20] <thumper> mahfiaz: ah
[23:20] <thumper> mahfiaz: I'm not sure how integrated the rosetta stuff is, best to ask that question on the rosetta project
[23:21] <wgrant> You can't use a VCS with Ubuntu translations at the moment.
[23:21] <wgrant> But you can export and import PO files.
[23:21] <mahfiaz> wgrant, this is dead slow process
[23:22] <wgrant> mahfiaz: It shouldn't be slow after the first time.
[23:23] <mahfiaz> it usually takes a hour or so, for the .po file download link to be sent
[23:23] <mahfiaz> to mailbox
[23:23] <wgrant> But as thumper said, if you ask a question on 'rosetta' the devs will give you the best way. There might be something I don't know about.