[05:42] <mac_v>  \o/ kwwii's bot is back
[05:42] <mac_v> ;p
[07:39] <mac_v> MadsRH: hi... are you involved in the ubiquity slideshow work?
[07:40] <mac_v> MadsRH:  <mrdoob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257165&page=2 <mrdoob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1257165&page=3
[07:41] <mac_v> i keep telling him to contact the mailing list he for some reason doesnt want to post in ML! so i'v told him to at minimum contact you , else it not reach the right place...
[07:42] <mac_v> it would not*
[09:20] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[13:52] <SiDi> Hey people
[13:52] <SiDi> can anyone run a little script for me please ?
[13:52] <SiDi> Esp. people who don't use xfwm4
[13:52] <SiDi> http://pastebin.com/m204ff979
[13:53] <SiDi> Please let me know what is displayed when you launch this with python and : 1)minimize the window | 2) switch workspace
[14:13] <MDC1> python sidi.py
[14:13] <MDC1> MINIMIZING...
[14:13] <MDC1> Window state: ['_NET_WM_STATE_HIDDEN']
[14:13] <MDC1> Window state: []
[14:13] <MDC1> SWITCH
[14:13] <MDC1> Window state: []
[14:13] <MDC1> Window state: []
[14:14] <MDC1> SiDi, that was gnome/metacity on karmic
[14:15] <SiDi> MDC1: thanks :D
[14:15] <MDC1> np
[14:19] <mac_v> dashua: bzr branch lp:humanity-unr
[14:20] <mac_v> it has the new animation for nm-connecting
[14:20] <dashua> mac_v, Nice
[14:21] <mac_v> hehe ;)
[14:21] <dashua> I've been using it on my netbook, looks sweet
[14:21] <dashua> Just the regular Humanity
[14:21] <dashua> Didn't know about the UNR version
[14:22] <mac_v> just spawned yesterday ;p
[14:22] <dashua> DBO's new window picker applet is nice too.
[14:22] <dashua> Sort of like Docky
[14:22] <mac_v> i think me might just use it as a testing ground
[14:22] <mac_v> since the UNR version works fine with dust too
[14:23] <mac_v> it was initially started due to concerns that the icons might not work well with dust
[14:24] <mac_v> dashua: the animation is a bit cheesy ;p but just wanted to try something new
[14:26] <dashua> Uh oh, just lost nm-applet =/
[14:28] <dashua> The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[14:30] <mac_v> hehe... thats not my fault ;p
[14:31] <mac_v> dashua: has the system been upgraded? there were problems similar to what you mention with nm , now it has been corrected
[14:31] <mac_v> updated*
[14:32] <dashua> mac_v, Not working here mate.
[14:32] <dashua> Ok
[14:32] <mac_v> dashua: the icons or the applet ?
[14:33] <dashua> Both nm-applet just crashes
[14:33] <dashua> The nm-applet appears then crashes nm-applet
[14:33] <dashua> icon*
[14:33] <mac_v> hmm... that cant be the fault of the icons
[14:34] <dashua> One I revert back to Humanity, it's fine
[14:34] <dashua> Once*
[14:34] <dashua> Try it with Hanso
[14:34] <dashua> Maybe it's the theme
[14:34] <mac_v> weird , i'v been testing it several times with my theme
[14:34] <mac_v> let me check
[14:35] <dashua> gtk-icon-sizes = "panel-menu=24,24:gtk-button=16,16"
[14:35] <dashua> Maybe that
[14:36] <mac_v> testing
[14:36] <mac_v> dashua: am i connected?
[14:36] <dashua> Hrm
[14:36] <mac_v> hehe
[14:36] <dashua> Not sure
[14:36] <dashua> Hehe
[14:36] <mac_v> works fine for me with hanso
[14:37] <mac_v> dashua: is the icon set in ~/.icons or in /usr/share/icons
[14:37] <dashua> Getting missing resources
[14:38] <dashua> /usr/share/icons
[14:38] <mac_v> hrm... weird , i'm having no problems with hanso too , have you changed anything recently? after yesterday?
[14:39] <mac_v> i have yesterday's hanso rev
[14:39] <dashua> No, nothing at all
[14:39] <dashua> Just Totem
[14:39] <dashua> But that would not effect this
[14:40] <mac_v> you are now on netbook or PC?
[14:41] <dashua> PC laptop
[14:41] <mac_v> i tested this on my laptop , i dont see any problems :/
[14:41] <dashua> Does the same on other theme too
[14:41] <dashua> I get a black spinner animation in Humanity
[14:42] <mac_v> which other theme? icon or gtk?
[14:42] <dashua> But I can't really see it
[14:42] <dashua> GTK
[14:42] <mac_v> wait let me change panel
[14:44] <dashua> Let me test it on my netbook
[14:44] <mac_v> dashua: i tired every permutation , i dont get any probs :/
[14:46] <dashua> Same on my netbook
[14:47] <mac_v> err..!
[14:49] <dashua> Doesn't work on my netbook either
[14:49] <dashua> Removed them from /usr/share/icons and put them ~/.icons
[14:49] <dashua> Still crashes
[14:50] <mac_v> dashua: however much i try i dont get any problems  :(    , i dont know what to say :(
[14:51] <dashua> Me neither
[14:51] <dashua> I'll mess around with it
[14:52] <mac_v> damn it.... why dont i get this problem !
[14:52] <mac_v> hehe ;p
[14:53] <dashua> I wonder if it's just me =/
[14:53] <dashua> Anyone else available to test?
[14:55] <SiDi> hm
[14:55] <SiDi> whats the bug ?
[15:12] <mac_v> SiDi: test  bzr branch lp:humanity-unr
[15:12] <mac_v> are you using wireless connection ?
[15:12] <mac_v> SiDi: try the reconnection animation
[15:14] <SiDi> oh
[15:14] <SiDi> i dont have network manager :P
[15:23] <mac_v> ;p
[15:32] <Cimi_> mac_v, which issue? here crashes
[15:33] <mac_v> Cimi: the reconnection animation crashes?
[15:34] <mac_v> Cimi_: ^
[15:34] <mac_v>  bzr branch lp:humanity-unr
[15:34] <mac_v> for these icons?
[15:34] <Cimi_> y
[15:34] <mac_v> hrm weird :(
[15:35] <mac_v> back!
[15:36] <mac_v> aah! , i dont notice any problems , why is that?
[15:36] <mac_v> Cimi_: could you check the symlinks , maybe its a problem with that?
[15:39] <mac_v> dashua: Cimi_ could you guys first view the files in EOG and then try it again?
[15:39] <Cimi_> nm-stage02-connecting01 missing
[15:40] <mac_v> oops !
[15:41] <mac_v> Cimi_: thats weird ! i have it in the branch!
[15:41] <mac_v> let me check LP
[15:41] <Cimi_> mac_v, bzr add ?
[15:41] <mac_v> i did that together with all the icons , i'm not sure how this one missed
[15:44] <mac_v> Cimi_: do a pull again , i can see them in LP too > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementaryicons/humanity-unr/humanity-unr/revision/192
[15:44] <mac_v> could you do *
[15:45] <Cimi_> nothing
[15:45] <mac_v> SiDi: dashua: is it same for you? you gus also dont have the  nm-stage02-connecting01
[15:45] <mac_v> guys*
[15:46] <mac_v> Cimi_: thats weird :/ could add the symlink and check if it works now?
[15:47] <Cimi_> no I'm quite busy... anyway I'm not using humanity
[15:47] <mac_v> ok no probs
[15:47] <Cimi_> I've just did a test for you
[15:47] <mac_v> Cimi_: thanks :)
[15:47] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23907/screenshot_ClPlN9.png
[15:48] <mac_v> dashua: is it working for you now?
[15:48] <dashua> No
[15:48] <dashua> Did you update?
[15:48] <dashua> Permisson or symlinks are bad
[15:48] <mac_v> dashua: no , could you check if the  nm-stage02-connecting01 is missing?
[15:48] <Cimi_> quite ugly the mix between colored and monochrome icons
[15:49] <mac_v> dashua: remove bluetooth and the disk utility icons
[15:49] <mac_v> temporarily while taking screenshots :)
[15:50] <Cimi_> also small icons seems to be blurred
[15:50] <Cimi_> take a look at the nautilus sidebar
[15:50] <Cimi_> the disks
[15:50] <mac_v> Cimi_: for humanity?
[15:50] <Cimi_> y
[15:51] <Cimi_> you should move to the one canvas overflow like gnome's next g-i-t
[15:51] <mac_v> hrm.. i'll tell dan about it
[15:51] <Cimi_> I guess we will have 256x256 px icons for 2.30
[15:52] <mac_v> Cimi_: I'm just doing some work for the panel icons , i'm not the one who started it :)
[15:52] <mac_v> just a small piece of the puzzle ;p
[15:54] <Cimi_> like those
[15:54] <Cimi_> http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=git3 http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=Tango-NG
[15:55] <mac_v> yeah , have seen them , jimmac makes good icons
[15:56] <Cimi_> and he is color blind :)
[15:56] <mac_v> Cimi_: what ?
[15:56] <mac_v> o.0
[15:56] <Cimi_> mac_v, he is color blind
[15:56] <Cimi_> but he reaches this quality
[15:56] <mac_v> seriously ? , then how does he select the colors
[15:56] <Cimi_> also lapo calamandrei is color blind
[15:57] <Cimi_> he told me he grab them from the palette
[15:57] <mac_v> o.0
[15:57] <Cimi_> he sees the sun green :D
[15:57] <mac_v> yeah the color blind get the greens and reds mostly mixed up
[15:58] <mac_v> hehe... amazing how they gets the icons right though
[15:58] <Cimi_> yeah
[15:58] <Cimi_> wallpapers too!
[15:59] <mac_v> i'm gonna poke kwwii's eyes too ;p
[16:00] <mac_v> not that he doesnt make good icons already , but to make better icons
[16:41] <mac_v> dashua: pls do fresh download again :) , dont pull , the error seems fixed now
[16:47] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[17:00] <Cimi_> mac_v, bzr merge doesn't work
[17:01] <mac_v> Cimi_: i tired downloading the files again , now i see all the symlinks... it might have been a temporary hickup in the server or something... could you pls download again and test it when you have time :)
[17:02] <mac_v> dont pull the revs wont be different
[17:02] <Cimi_> cimi@gemini:~/.icons$ ls humanity-unr/status/22/nm-
[17:02] <Cimi_> nm-adhoc.svg            nm-device-wireless.svg  nm-signal-00.svg        nm-signal-100.svg       nm-signal-50.svg
[17:02] <Cimi_> nm-device-wired.svg     nm-no-connection.svg    nm-signal-0.svg         nm-signal-25.svg        nm-signal-75.svg
[17:02] <Cimi_> mmm
[17:02] <mac_v> hmm.. oh those wait!
[17:03] <mac_v> now i
[17:03] <mac_v> i'm confused  :(
[17:10] <dashua> mac_v, Ok
[17:11] <dashua> Just got home from running
[17:11] <dashua> Damn
[17:11] <dashua> g-p-m still not working even with the lock
[17:11] <mac_v> :)
[17:11]  * dashua uninstalls again
[17:12] <mac_v> gpm is really a big mess  , there are several complains about it :/
[17:13] <mac_v> Karmic UNR has an awesome menu
[17:14] <SiDi> sudo aptitude install xfce4-power-manager
[17:14] <SiDi> We need testers ! :D
[17:15] <dashua> Uh oh
[17:15] <dashua> Same =/
[17:15] <dashua> ~./icons is purged too
[17:15] <dashua> mac_v, humanity-unr no go here
[17:15] <dashua> I removed branch and branched again
[17:15] <dashua> Same error
[17:17] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23911/screenshot_020_Uok1Fc.png
[17:17] <dashua> This link cannot be used, because its target "/home/vishnoo/Documents/themes/BZR_LP/humanity-unr/apps/24/nm-stage01-connecting05.svg" doesn't exist
[17:17] <dashua> Maybe need to be re-rendered with update symlinks?
[17:19] <dashua> SiDi, I'm about to switch over
[17:19] <dashua> GNOME should be much more stable at this point in release
[17:19] <dashua> Stable version is coming soon
[17:19] <dashua> I just can't do without Compiz
[17:20] <SiDi> Hehe
[17:20] <SiDi> install compiz in Xfce then ;)
[17:21]  * mac_v thinks SiDi is worse that crack pushers ;p lol
[17:21] <dashua> mac_v, Are you vishnoo?
[17:22] <SiDi> dashua: compiz runs fine in Xubuntu
[17:22] <dashua> SiDi, Really?
[17:22] <SiDi> you just need to use compiz-core and simple-ccsm rather than compiz and ccsm
[17:22] <dashua> How about event sounds?
[17:22] <mac_v> dashua: could you pls check the apps/22 and apps/24 ?
[17:22] <SiDi> and of course it uses compiz or emerald for window decorations, not xfwm
[17:22] <dashua> Does Xubuntu have them yet?
[17:22] <SiDi> dashua: dont know, the only sound allowed on my PC is my music
[17:22] <mac_v> if there are 33 icons yup
[17:22] <SiDi> yes, its in the repositories
[17:23] <mac_v> dashua: ah crap symlinks... wait i'll load the files themselves!
[17:23] <SiDi> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/ that outdated blog post explains it all
[17:23] <SiDi> just use simple-ccsm instead of the normal ccsm
[17:24] <dashua> If I do switch, all traces of blue will be eradicated.
[17:25] <mac_v> dashua: how are symlinks created for bzr ?
[17:25] <mac_v> in bzr*
[17:26] <dashua> Not sure, Cory or rugby had a script in Breathe that did the symlinks
[17:26] <mac_v> i totally messed up the symlinks i guess!
[17:26] <dashua> That's the only issue it seems
[17:27] <mac_v> dashua: just a min, Dan is fixing it \o/
[17:34] <dashua> mac_v, Ok
[17:38] <mac_v> dashua: i ended up making hardlinks! , instead of symlinks!
[17:38] <mac_v> thats why it is messed up :(
[17:38] <dashua> No worries, it can be fixed.  That's why it didn't crash on your end
[17:39] <mac_v>  yeah,
[17:39] <dashua> Stage 1 icons look sexxy from what I can see
[17:39] <mac_v> dashua:  hehe... i blame it all on Cory ;p
[17:39] <dashua> Ha
[17:40] <mac_v> he never told me to do symlinks so i never did them
[17:40] <dashua> I think he rendered the source and then created the symlinks
[17:41] <dashua> That script is no longer in Breathe
[17:41] <dashua> It used to be
[19:18] <mac_v> dashua: should work now :) , pls test it
[19:20] <mac_v> Cimi: ^
[19:23] <mac_v> dashua:  there is also another spinner in Humanity , we are testing 2 versions ;)
[19:37] <dashua> mac_v, Very nice :)
[19:37] <dashua> Working good
[19:38] <mac_v> thanks :)
[19:38] <mac_v> ... hehe Dan did another version too , so we are now testing both ;p
[19:39] <dashua> For darker panels?
[19:51] <mac_v> dashua: na... , just a different version of the spinner :)
[20:08] <Cimi> humanity icons are blurred here with small dimensions
[20:08] <Cimi> for example panel 24pc
[20:08] <Cimi> *px
[20:09] <Cimi> or small icons on the toolbar
[20:12] <mac_v> Cimi: could you file a bug? on lp , with a screenshot?
[20:13] <mac_v> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23911/screenshot_020_Uok1Fc.png
[20:13] <Cimi> no I'm busy... and I don't contribute for things which I don't use (or will be complicated to follow the bugreport)
[20:14] <mac_v> that is how it is displayed for me too... so i'm not sure how its causing a problem
[20:14] <mac_v> oops wrong link!
[20:15] <mac_v> > http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/23907/screenshot_ClPlN9.png
[20:15] <mac_v> thats dashua's screenshot ^
[20:17] <Cimi> I'm on jaunty
[20:21] <mac_v> http://imagebin.ca/view/qpQwWE1g.html
[20:22] <mac_v> there are problems with the panel when the icons are used from ~/.icons folder
[20:22] <rsc___> what scripts are you folks using?
[20:22] <rsc___> errr, what themes?
[20:22] <rsc___>  :)
[20:22] <rsc___> in those screenshots.
[20:22] <mac_v> humanity
[20:22] <rsc___> GTK theme i mean?
[20:23] <rsc___> or is humanity a gtk theme?
[20:23] <mac_v> rsc___: thats dashua's Hanso
[20:23] <rsc___> ahh.
[20:23] <mac_v> Cimi: but that is a panel bug , to prevent it the icons need to be in the /usr/share/icon folder
[20:24] <rsc___> just reminded me of a certain theme i started heh :)
[20:24] <mac_v> something stupid with the panel
[20:24] <Cimi> ok
[20:24] <mac_v> rsc___: dont we all start one ;p
[20:24] <rsc___> perhaps so
[20:25] <mac_v> hehe , i'v been wanting to finish a theme i started for more than 3 months !
[20:27] <mac_v> and by all from what i hear about Karmic +1 the themes will probably drastically need a make over o.0
[20:47] <SiDi> mac_v: http://imagebin.ca/img/MfexieRW.png :D
[20:47] <SiDi> i stole your iconz !
[20:48] <mac_v> SiDi: that looks nice :)
[20:49] <SiDi> it took me 2 days x_x
[20:49] <SiDi> as soon as i change panel size / theme, its not sharp anymore :P
[20:56] <SiDi> mac_v: that white blur on the g-p-m icons...
[20:57] <SiDi> put the panel's size at 50px
[20:57] <SiDi> and enjoy :P
[21:01] <mac_v> SiDi: screenshot?
[21:02] <mac_v> but using a 22px icon for 50 px ;p
[21:05] <SiDi> http://imagebin.ca/img/ZylrFuAX.png
[21:57] <mac_v> SiDi: what the hell! ..... why did you tell me to change the px ? it blew up my system!
[21:57] <SiDi> lol ?
[21:58] <mac_v> i dont know it seriously started to mess up my install! had to restart 3 times... everything in the system went beserk!
[21:58] <SiDi> lol
[21:58] <mac_v> SiDi: had to reset the gconf and the .gnome2
[21:59] <SiDi> http://www.xubuntu.com/get
[21:59] <mac_v> SiDi: you god damn crack pusher
[21:59] <SiDi> because you changed your panel's size ? :/
[21:59] <mac_v> yeah , i tried 50px twice or thrice and everything went crazy!
[22:00]  * mac_v takes note never to listen to SiDi 's craziness!
[22:00] <SiDi> mac_v: sudo rm -rf /*
[22:01]  * mac_v tries to jedi kick SiDi
[22:01]  * MDC1 tries SiDi optimizing code...
[22:01]  * SiDi optimizes his brain's code
[22:01] <SiDi> 2+2 = 100
[22:01] <MDC1> mine says 2+2 = NULL
[22:01] <SiDi> 2+4 = 110
[22:01] <MDC1> :-)
[22:03] <mac_v> hehe , MDC1 try it, every almost every app crashed
[22:03] <mac_v> had 20 apport reports!
[22:03] <MDC1> after rm / -rf?
[22:04] <mac_v> no SiDi 's stupid idea ;p
[22:04] <MDC1> i've been away and haven't read up.. :-)
[22:05] <mac_v> MDC1: SiDi had an idea to use 50px panel ;p
[22:05] <SiDi> mac_v: you know what it means ?
[22:05] <MDC1> should the apps crash because of that?
[22:05] <SiDi> it means the apps and DE you use manage to CRASH when they gotta grab an icon from a theme
[22:05] <MDC1> talking about panels..
[22:05] <mac_v> i tired it twice or thrice and all hell broke loose! every time i clicked an app in the panel it would crash!
[22:05] <SiDi> that really sucks a lot
[22:05] <SiDi> i suggest you to use XFCE instead !
[22:06] <MDC1> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471660
[22:06] <MDC1> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=142588
[22:06]  * MDC1 goes try setting panel to 50px+
[22:07] <mac_v> even if i selected /home from the panel it crashed nautilus!
[22:07] <MDC1> hmm.. i'm still here
[22:07]  * SiDi thinks buttons without icons suck
[22:07] <MDC1> haha.. tried it in a vm :)
[22:07] <MDC1> but it didn't crash.. ?
[22:07] <MDC1> did i do something wrong+
[22:07] <MDC1> ?
[22:07] <mac_v> yeah
[22:07] <MDC1> heeh
[22:07] <mac_v> you tried it in VM ;p
[22:08] <MDC1> :-)
[22:08] <MDC1> just to be safe from scary thing like rm -rf /
[22:08] <MDC1> what did you think of the GtkScale instead of spinner?
[22:09] <mac_v> one day i'm gonna get ssh to SiDi's system and do  # rm -rf /*
[22:09] <mac_v> <evil grin>
[22:11] <MDC1> i'm off to bed, it's already too late... see ya tomorrow
[22:25] <SiDi_> mac_v: good luck for that
[22:31] <SiDi_> if you wanna use my panel icons lp:~sidi/+junk/panel-icons
[22:32] <SiDi_> be warned their size is chosen depending on my panel's size for my personal use :P
[22:32] <SiDi_> Oh, and the icons' shape is stolen on Human / Humanity ! :D
[22:37] <rsc___> whatever happened to the breathe iconset?
[22:37] <rsc___> how does the community like it?