| slhsen | hi, I just installed 9.04 and I cannot change my keyboard layout to TR it shows the turkish flag on keyboard switch plug in but does not work. any ideas? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| slhsen | "setxkbmap tr" works | 00:09 |
| slhsen | but xfce settings does not | 00:09 |
| imfluxible | i just did a new install of 9.04 but i only have a top of screen panel, can anyone tell me what might be the problem that i don't have a bottom panel? | 01:18 |
| imfluxible | i tried to sudo apt-get install gnome-panel but it said there was already installed an instance or similar | 01:26 |
| durt | imfluxible, xubuntu uses xfce not gnome, it would be xfce4-panel | 01:42 |
| durt | and it should be already installed, right click on your top panel choose customize panel to add more panels. | 01:43 |
| === MrNaz` is now known as MrNaz | ||
| mikubuntu | trying to help my friend in california install .. she has xp, and i don't know anything about microsoft, and neither does she, does anybody know what program might be on her xp by default to burn the iso? | 08:10 |
| Techie | there is no program on xp that will allow you to burn iso files out of the box | 08:18 |
| Techie | may i suggest a burning application? | 08:19 |
| mikubuntu | Techie, sorry i was away looking for resources ... yes please suggest the best | 08:31 |
| Techie | i personally use IMGburn | 08:31 |
| Techie | http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download | 08:31 |
| mikubuntu | so it is freely available to download to ms xp? | 08:31 |
| Techie | yes | 08:31 |
| mikubuntu | cool, let me try to walk her thru it | 08:32 |
| Techie | once its installed you can right click the iso and select burn with imgburn if you want | 08:33 |
| Techie | then just put in a black disc and click the big button on the bottom left | 08:33 |
| mikubuntu | Techie, ok, waiting for her to re-download buntu, she selected run instead of save ... lol | 08:52 |
| Techie | hehe | 08:53 |
| mikubuntu | Techie, you there? | 09:10 |
| Techie | yep | 09:10 |
| Techie | im here | 09:11 |
| mikubuntu | she says its offering her 'Advanced Reg Opt' to download, is that the file? Imgburn? | 09:11 |
| Techie | no | 09:11 |
| Techie | thats an ad | 09:11 |
| mikubuntu | oops | 09:11 |
| Techie | which mirror site? | 09:12 |
| mikubuntu | hmmm, i don't know what she's seeing ... mirror 1 betanews | 09:12 |
| Techie | blue button on the right | 09:13 |
| mikubuntu | k, lemme tell her | 09:13 |
| Techie | it says Download Now (2,119 Kb) | 09:13 |
| mikubuntu | still here? :P | 09:21 |
| mikubuntu | gina says :: the ubuntu file not on desktop, where would xp put it normally? | 09:22 |
| Techie | umm | 09:22 |
| Techie | try my documents | 09:22 |
| Techie | there may be a downloads folder | 09:22 |
| mikubuntu | downloads folder under docs? | 09:23 |
| Techie | yeah, might not be there though | 09:23 |
| Techie | you could always do a search for it | 09:23 |
| Techie | hit [windows key] + F | 09:24 |
| mikubuntu | how do you search on xp | 09:24 |
| mikubuntu | k, then? | 09:24 |
| Techie | all files and folders on the left pane | 09:24 |
| Techie | in the first box put buntu and click search | 09:25 |
| Techie | ubuntu* | 09:25 |
| mikubuntu | she's trying. like the blind leading the blind. | 09:29 |
| mikubuntu | she says :: OMG i foooouuuund it ... we'll see ...lol... | 09:30 |
| Techie | windows isnt any harder than ubuntu, its just that it doesnt have large support channels like this and doesnt have the might of the open source community | 09:30 |
| mikubuntu | and you forgot, it DOESN'T WORK ... lol | 09:31 |
| Techie | common misconception | 09:32 |
| Techie | it does work, its just that alot of users dont know how to work with it properly, the same goes for any distro of linux | 09:32 |
| mikubuntu | i hate it, i've never had money, so i've always had older equipment and machines always froze up, crashed, etc... , nvr happens with linux (in my experience - UNLESS i've done something stupid, which i have on occasion) | 09:34 |
| Techie | hehe | 09:34 |
| Techie | use your resources | 09:35 |
| mikubuntu | convoluted coding, made to obfuscate | 09:35 |
| Techie | lol | 09:35 |
| mikubuntu | i'm no coder, but i understand and believe that to be true, right? | 09:35 |
| Techie | theres only 2 peices of hardware in my computer that arent 2nd hand | 09:35 |
| Techie | windows code isnt as bad as its made out to be | 09:36 |
| mikubuntu | ok, she found it!!! so, she just needs to insert disk, and right click you said to bring up imgburn | 09:36 |
| Techie | yay | 09:36 |
| Techie | btw if you didnt figure it out... im a windows user, but i also work with linux | 09:37 |
| mikubuntu | i did, just giving you a hard time. i'm sure you know LOTS more than i, without a doubt. i toil thru everything, haha | 09:38 |
| mikubuntu | so what will be img's options again? | 09:38 |
| Techie | no need to change any options, however you can change the burn speed and disable the verify procedure if you want | 09:39 |
| mikubuntu | i can't see what she's seeing | 09:39 |
| mikubuntu | ok, so i should slow the burn speed right | 09:39 |
| Techie | up to you | 09:39 |
| Techie | good writer and good discs and you can burn at full speed | 09:40 |
| Techie | if you doubt either then burn at a slower speed | 09:40 |
| mikubuntu | not 100 percent familiar with her equipment, its a two year old dell laptop is all i know | 09:41 |
| Techie | yeah, maybe reduce the burn speed a little bit | 09:41 |
| mikubuntu | hope i get a good install ... | 09:41 |
| Techie | not a big fan of dells | 09:41 |
| mikubuntu | me neither ezackly | 09:42 |
| mikubuntu | i bought a 300 doller acer couple months ago, and everyone says its sh$%, but i haven't had any probs complaints on it yet, does everything i tell it to | 09:43 |
| Techie | what specs? | 09:43 |
| mikubuntu | houston we have a problem ... she said she clickd on the file and it took her back to ubuntu home page ... that doesn't sound like an .iso to me heehee | 09:45 |
| Techie | nope | 09:45 |
| Techie | she could do a search for *.iso | 09:46 |
| mikubuntu | ahhh, good idea. but she just crappd out. tomorrow nite :P | 09:47 |
| Techie | kk | 09:48 |
| mikubuntu | Techie, thanks ... see you tomorrow? | 09:48 |
| Techie | if im on, otherwise it should be pretty simple | 09:49 |
| mikubuntu | k, laters then, thx again | 09:49 |
| Techie | np | 09:49 |
| miguelonnnn | hii | 09:56 |
| * Techie waves @ miguelonnnn | 09:56 | |
| miguelonnnn | ;) | 09:57 |
| Techie | /away sleeping | 10:44 |
| Techie | ... why did i have a bunch of spaces in there???? oh well | 10:44 |
| SiDi | Good night, Techie :) | 10:44 |
| Techie | night SiDi | 10:44 |
| Sysi | i think i'll ever get bored to peple from different time zones | 10:51 |
| miguelonnnn | sry good night techie hope not being too late :S | 11:10 |
| === MastaAce is now known as Prof | ||
| === Prof is now known as ProfP30 | ||
| ace__ | how can i change the mixer icon? | 12:46 |
| slow-motion | hi | 13:23 |
| SiDi | hi | 13:24 |
| felipeiilha | hi | 15:55 |
| asdfkjlhldsh | i'm having some troubles with xubuntu instalation | 15:56 |
| SiDi | hi asdfkjlhldsh | 15:58 |
| SiDi | what problem do you have exactly ? | 15:58 |
| asudhdhuauhd | how can I stay connected to this webirc | 16:03 |
| asudhdhuauhd | ? | 16:03 |
| asudhdhuauhd | it loses conection every time | 16:04 |
| asudhdhuauhd | ctcp version | 16:04 |
| tryingtoobtainhe | i cant stay conected | 16:06 |
| tryingtoobtainhe | freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect] requested CTCP VERSION from tryingtoobtainhe: | 16:07 |
| Sysi | you can't use proper irc-client? | 16:08 |
| qwebirc2953 | hi | 16:09 |
| SiDi | hi | 16:09 |
| qwebirc2953 | i'm having some trouble with xubuntu | 16:09 |
| qwebirc2953 | and with this webirc | 16:09 |
| Sysi | you can't use proper irc-client? | 16:10 |
| SiDi | problems with the webchat should be dealt on #freenode | 16:10 |
| SiDi | i'm on webchat.freenode.net too and it works very well. | 16:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok. | 16:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | I installed xubuntu on my notebook | 16:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | its an old Toshiba Satellite | 16:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | and CD drive doesn't work any more | 16:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | so, i made a cd image aproach | 16:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | on installing, everything was ok | 16:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | when the pc rebooted, | 16:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | it asked to my user and pw | 16:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | but in "console" mode | 16:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | i filled user and pw, but i'm still on text mode | 16:13 |
| qwebirc2953 | how can I start xfce? | 16:13 |
| durt | you | 16:13 |
| durt | can | 16:13 |
| durt | start | 16:13 |
| durt | X | 16:13 |
| durt | with | 16:13 |
| durt | sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start | 16:14 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 16:14 |
| qwebirc2953 | i got: | 16:14 |
| durt | this is IRC not IM. You can put more than a few words on a line, in fact multiple lines. :) | 16:15 |
| qwebirc2953 | sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found | 16:15 |
| qwebirc2953 | sorry | 16:15 |
| NickDeNeger | lol @ durt | 16:15 |
| qwebirc2953 | i got: sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found | 16:16 |
| durt | did you do a cli install? | 16:16 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 16:16 |
| SiDi | qwebirc2953: what CD did you use ? | 16:17 |
| qwebirc2953 | clean install? | 16:17 |
| qwebirc2953 | alternate cd | 16:17 |
| SiDi | it looks like you didnt install XFCE | 16:17 |
| SiDi | Are you sure you didnt install ubuntu server ? :/ | 16:17 |
| SiDi | what does uname -r return please ? | 16:17 |
| durt | then you need to install xubuntu-desktop (if that's the correct package name, anyone?). | 16:17 |
| qwebirc2953 | returns: 2.6.28-11-generic | 16:18 |
| SiDi | Alright, that's just weird | 16:18 |
| NickDeNeger | try: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 16:18 |
| NickDeNeger | that will setup the complete xubuntu environment | 16:18 |
| NickDeNeger | probably you are missing allot of packages :) | 16:19 |
| qwebirc2953 | "impossible find xubuntu-desktop package | 16:19 |
| qwebirc2953 | actually, let me explain how i installed. | 16:19 |
| qwebirc2953 | This notebook's cd drive isnt working | 16:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | and it doesn't book from pendrive | 16:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | boot | 16:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | so, searching on ubuntu documentation, i found: | 16:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | * Installation * FromWindows * The CD image approach | 16:21 |
| qwebirc2953 | "Note: This method only works with the Alternate Ubuntu install CD." | 16:22 |
| SiDi | qwebirc2953: could you please paste the documentation ? | 16:22 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 16:22 |
| NickDeNeger | or the url | 16:22 |
| qwebirc2953 | If for some reason you can not (do not want to) write the CD it is possible to use the ISO image to do the installation from hard disk. * Create a directory called hd-media in the root directory of the first primary partition of your hard drive (usually drive c:\, which it will be referred to as from now on). * Download vmlinuz and initrd.gz from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/instal | 16:22 |
| qwebirc2953 | better hrl | 16:22 |
| qwebirc2953 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows | 16:22 |
| NickDeNeger | ty | 16:22 |
| qwebirc2953 | I used The CD image approach | 16:23 |
| qwebirc2953 | with Xubuntu Alternate CD | 16:23 |
| SiDi | huh, Download vmlinuz and initrd.gz from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ and save them to hd-media | 16:25 |
| SiDi | These files don't exist :/ | 16:25 |
| qwebirc2953 | i downloaded from | 16:25 |
| qwebirc2953 | the last ubuntu distro | 16:25 |
| qwebirc2953 | jaunty | 16:25 |
| NickDeNeger | after booting you got the installer? and you didn't get any error's during the installation? | 16:26 |
| SiDi | qwebirc2953: can you try to type ubiquity in a command line please ? | 16:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | no error | 16:26 |
| SiDi | I think you got booted into a LiveCD (installed in your partition) | 16:26 |
| SiDi | you're not booted into an actually installed system | 16:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | ubiquity not found | 16:27 |
| qwebirc2953 | in fact, | 16:27 |
| qwebirc2953 | i have the alternate cd imagem on the hd | 16:27 |
| SiDi | then ubiquity should be there | 16:27 |
| qwebirc2953 | what should i do? | 16:28 |
| qwebirc2953 | i'm tryng to instal linux on this notebook | 16:29 |
| qwebirc2953 | but i can't use CD. | 16:30 |
| SiDi | Well, can you reach the internet from your machine ? | 16:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | from windows yes. | 16:30 |
| SiDi | if you can then you can do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 16:30 |
| SiDi | From the linux box, i meant | 16:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | no | 16:30 |
| SiDi | What network configuration do you have ? | 16:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | this note doesn't have cable ethernet | 16:31 |
| qwebirc2953 | just a usb wifi | 16:31 |
| SiDi | What does iwlist wlan0 scan say ? | 16:31 |
| qwebirc2953 | not installed | 16:32 |
| qwebirc2953 | i really dont understand. | 16:32 |
| NickDeNeger | it sounds he only got the kernel module... | 16:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | on instalation, everything gone ok | 16:33 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: yeh, sounds like that... | 16:33 |
| SiDi | just like that, is your console something like ubuntu@ubuntu~: or (initramfs): ? | 16:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | felipe@felipenote:~$ | 16:34 |
| SiDi | So, once you booted the first time, you DID perform an install, right ? | 16:34 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 16:34 |
| qwebirc2953 | but, | 16:34 |
| qwebirc2953 | i think i will try again | 16:34 |
| SiDi | well, it looks like nothing got installed at all :] | 16:35 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes. | 16:35 |
| NickDeNeger | maybe if he setups his wireless and add a repository he can get all? | 16:35 |
| NickDeNeger | did you select: use entire disk on setup? | 16:36 |
| qwebirc2953 | no | 16:36 |
| qwebirc2953 | i still have windows on other partition | 16:36 |
| NickDeNeger | so you picked manual and created 1 ext3 partition and 1 swap? | 16:36 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: yeh but he doesnt seem to even have the basic networking tools | 16:37 |
| qwebirc2953 | i picked automatic create partitions | 16:37 |
| qwebirc2953 | with /home and /swap separeted | 16:37 |
| NickDeNeger | hmm k that shouldn't be the problem then i guess | 16:37 |
| qwebirc2953 | rigth | 16:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | do you think i should instal again? | 16:38 |
| NickDeNeger | you can try? | 16:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | i can login on windows | 16:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | access internet | 16:38 |
| NickDeNeger | really don't know ^^ | 16:38 |
| NickDeNeger | never worked with that kind of installation | 16:39 |
| qwebirc2953 | maybe the Cd image aproach doesnot work with xubuntu alternate cd. | 16:39 |
| qwebirc2953 | i will download ubuntu alternate cd | 16:39 |
| qwebirc2953 | and try | 16:39 |
| NickDeNeger | shouldn't make a difference but you can try | 16:39 |
| NickDeNeger | both installations are similar but with different basic packages | 16:39 |
| qwebirc2953 | i rebooted | 16:40 |
| NickDeNeger | but trying never hurts =) | 16:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | on grub I have: | 16:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11 generic | 16:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11 generic (recovery mode) | 16:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | Ms Windows XP | 16:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | should I select recovery mode? | 16:41 |
| NickDeNeger | don't know... maybe SiDi knows ^^ | 16:42 |
| qwebirc2953 | i have the complete iso image on another partition | 16:43 |
| qwebirc2953 | if i can access it, | 16:43 |
| qwebirc2953 | may be i can instal the packages? | 16:43 |
| SiDi | try to boot every line | 16:44 |
| qwebirc2953 | how I do this? | 16:45 |
| qwebirc2953 | on grub I also have: | 16:46 |
| qwebirc2953 | ubuntu 9.04, memtes86+ | 16:46 |
| qwebirc2953 | I'm starting a clean install | 16:47 |
| NickDeNeger | maybe the setup didn't setup grub correctly and it's still booting the installer grub version | 16:47 |
| NickDeNeger | on the installation | 16:47 |
| qwebirc2953 | reinstalling now | 16:48 |
| qwebirc2953 | i got a problem | 16:48 |
| NickDeNeger | when the installer asks where you want tot setup grub type in: (hd0) | 16:48 |
| qwebirc2953 | Error while running 'modprobe -v -yenta_socket | 16:48 |
| qwebirc2953 | now it's loading addtional components | 16:49 |
| qwebirc2953 | again the same error. I hit continue. | 16:49 |
| qwebirc2953 | No network detected. | 16:50 |
| qwebirc2953 | I select Continue or Go Back? | 16:50 |
| SiDi | I have strictly no idea :/ | 16:50 |
| qwebirc2953 | i selected go back | 16:51 |
| qwebirc2953 | entered in hardware detection | 16:51 |
| qwebirc2953 | again, no network detected. i hit continue. | 16:51 |
| qwebirc2953 | Configure network. It is asking the hostname. i write "ubuntu" | 16:52 |
| NickDeNeger | how did you enter the setup? on boot: ms windows xp >> setup? | 16:52 |
| qwebirc2953 | no | 16:52 |
| qwebirc2953 | when i reseted, | 16:53 |
| qwebirc2953 | it entered on grub | 16:53 |
| qwebirc2953 | I selected Ms Windows XP | 16:53 |
| qwebirc2953 | so it entered in Windows Boot Loader | 16:53 |
| qwebirc2953 | I selected "Instal Ubuntu" (from the CD image aproach) | 16:54 |
| qwebirc2953 | So it loaded the instalation program | 16:54 |
| qwebirc2953 | i'm partitioning the HD now | 16:56 |
| qwebirc2953 | #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs (where MS Win and the cd image are) | 16:57 |
| qwebirc2953 | pri/log 10.5GB free space | 16:57 |
| qwebirc2953 | i select the second one | 16:58 |
| NickDeNeger | y | 16:58 |
| qwebirc2953 | and then Automatically partition the free space | 16:58 |
| qwebirc2953 | ? | 16:58 |
| NickDeNeger | y | 16:58 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 16:58 |
| qwebirc2953 | it created: | 16:59 |
| qwebirc2953 | #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs (where MS Win and the cd image are) | 16:59 |
| SiDi | ntfs ? | 16:59 |
| NickDeNeger | that is the windows partition | 16:59 |
| qwebirc2953 | #5 logical 10 gb f ext3 / | 16:59 |
| SiDi | (btw your network isnt detected probably because you have an usb wifi dongle without drivers) | 16:59 |
| NickDeNeger | that's wrong ^^ | 16:59 |
| qwebirc2953 | #6 logical 493.5 gb f swap swap | 16:59 |
| SiDi | Okey, where are 2 3 and 4 ? :P | 17:00 |
| SiDi | 493 MB you mean ? | 17:00 |
| qwebirc2953 | don't know | 17:00 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 17:00 |
| SiDi | (thats a 20GB disc ?) | 17:00 |
| qwebirc2953 | 493 mb | 17:00 |
| NickDeNeger | the root / should be on a primary partition not a logical | 17:00 |
| SiDi | Okey | 17:00 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: actually it should matter at all w/ linux :/ | 17:00 |
| SiDi | shouldnt | 17:00 |
| qwebirc2953 | i will delete this partitions, and leave only the ntfs one | 17:01 |
| NickDeNeger | hmm oke | 17:01 |
| NickDeNeger | although i would prefer to make #2 primary 10gb f ext3 / | 17:01 |
| qwebirc2953 | right.. now I have: | 17:01 |
| qwebirc2953 | #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs (where MS Win and the cd image are) | 17:01 |
| NickDeNeger | and swap at #3 | 17:01 |
| qwebirc2953 | pri/log 10.5GB free space | 17:02 |
| SiDi | delete every one apart from the #1, then go to manual partition, make a 4,5GB / ext4 primary partition, a ~512 mb swap one, and a 5GB /home ext4 primary | 17:02 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 17:02 |
| SiDi | you wont need logical partitions since you dont leave any room behind you :P | 17:02 |
| SiDi | (but afaik linux is meant to be bootable from logical ones :/ ) | 17:02 |
| qwebirc2953 | it's asking where i want the partition to be created on the space avaliable: beginning or end | 17:03 |
| qwebirc2953 | (4,5GB / ext4 primary partition) | 17:03 |
| NickDeNeger | beginning | 17:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | k | 17:04 |
| NickDeNeger | quick question, is it possible at all to takeover the active session screen (you see on your monitor) using vnc? if so i'll try harder xD | 17:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | no. | 17:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | i'm with the notebook at my side. | 17:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | cant access from this pc | 17:05 |
| NickDeNeger | that wasn't a question for you ^^ i hoped SiDi knows ^^ | 17:05 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 17:05 |
| qwebirc2953 | now, it says I'm editing #2 partition | 17:06 |
| qwebirc2953 | on partition settings | 17:06 |
| qwebirc2953 | use as: ext4 ? | 17:06 |
| qwebirc2953 | mount point: ??? | 17:06 |
| NickDeNeger | mounting point: / | 17:07 |
| NickDeNeger | and i guess ext4 is good to but i use ext3 (older version) | 17:07 |
| qwebirc2953 | mount options: realatime??? | 17:07 |
| qwebirc2953 | mount options: relatime??? | 17:07 |
| NickDeNeger | mount point: / | 17:08 |
| qwebirc2953 | below mount point, is mount options | 17:08 |
| qwebirc2953 | default relatime | 17:08 |
| qwebirc2953 | but the other options are: | 17:08 |
| qwebirc2953 | noatime, nodev, nosuid, noexec, ro, sync, usrquota, grpquota, user_xattr | 17:09 |
| qwebirc2953 | leave relatime? | 17:10 |
| NickDeNeger | guess so... | 17:10 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: i dont use VNC much :p | 17:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 17:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | Label: none | 17:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | Reserved blocks: 5% | 17:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | typical usage: standard | 17:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | bootable flag: off ???? | 17:11 |
| SiDi | bootable flag on | 17:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | k | 17:11 |
| SiDi | for the rest leave it as it is | 17:11 |
| SiDi | for partition #3, just set ext4 and mount point /home | 17:11 |
| NickDeNeger | SiDi: me neighter but i hoped that i could takeover my media center box ^^ | 17:11 |
| SiDi | and leave the rest as it is | 17:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | k | 17:11 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: by takeover do you mean remote control or do you mean remote control AND prevent local control ? | 17:11 |
| SiDi | remote control is possible NickDeNeger | 17:11 |
| SiDi | make sure your VNC server on your media center allows you to control it and you're done | 17:12 |
| NickDeNeger | hmm k i'll try harder, found some tutorials but probably i missed something somewhere hm | 17:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | swap is ext4? | 17:13 |
| SiDi | i dont have vnc here but there is a VNC configuration utility in ubuntu, its somewhere there | 17:13 |
| SiDi | qwebirc2953: swap is swap ;) | 17:13 |
| NickDeNeger | no swap must be swap | 17:13 |
| qwebirc2953 | right | 17:13 |
| qwebirc2953 | i found here ^^ | 17:13 |
| NickDeNeger | y vino but it's not there for xubuntu ^^ | 17:13 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: install it ;) | 17:13 |
| qwebirc2953 | now i have: | 17:14 |
| qwebirc2953 | #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs | 17:14 |
| NickDeNeger | y but i hoped to be able to use vnc server but configurating that is... well... like hell ^^ | 17:14 |
| qwebirc2953 | #2 primary 4.5 gb B f ext4 / | 17:14 |
| qwebirc2953 | #3 primary 510 mb f swap swap | 17:15 |
| qwebirc2953 | #4 primary 5.5 gb f ext4 /home | 17:15 |
| qwebirc2953 | writing changes into the disk | 17:16 |
| qwebirc2953 | Now it's istaling the Base System | 17:17 |
| qwebirc2953 | Now it's Installing the Base System | 17:17 |
| qwebirc2953 | 42%.... | 17:18 |
| qwebirc2953 | 63%.... | 17:20 |
| SiDi | once its finished, go to grub, and use the option to edit a line | 17:21 |
| SiDi | (forgot what it is though :/ probably e or ctrl+e) | 17:21 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 17:21 |
| SiDi | and then i'll ask you what the Xubuntu 9.04 line looks like | 17:21 |
| SiDi | it should be pointing to hd(0,1) | 17:21 |
| qwebirc2953 | 83% | 17:22 |
| qwebirc2953 | 100% | 17:24 |
| SiDi | 124% | 17:24 |
| NickDeNeger | += | 17:24 |
| NickDeNeger | :+ | 17:24 |
| qwebirc2953 | now it's in: Configure the package manager | 17:24 |
| qwebirc2953 | asking for a http proxy. | 17:24 |
| NickDeNeger | skip that since you have no network | 17:24 |
| qwebirc2953 | i use none. so i will leave black | 17:24 |
| NickDeNeger | y blank is good | 17:25 |
| qwebirc2953 | configurint apt | 17:25 |
| qwebirc2953 | 100%. | 17:25 |
| qwebirc2953 | now, Select and Install software. | 17:25 |
| qwebirc2953 | "The installation cd does not support for you language. | 17:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | Using english so | 17:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | installing english language pack base | 17:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | now, SoftWare Selection | 17:28 |
| qwebirc2953 | "At the moment, only the core of the system is instaleled. | 17:28 |
| qwebirc2953 | To tune the sistem to you needs, you can choose to instal one or more of the following predefined collections of software" | 17:29 |
| qwebirc2953 | Choose software to instal: | 17:29 |
| qwebirc2953 | [ ] Mail Server | 17:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | [ ] OpenSSH server | 17:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | [ ] print server | 17:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | [ ] samba file server | 17:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | [ ] xubuntu desktop | 17:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | [ ] manual package selection | 17:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | --------- what should i select | 17:31 |
| NickDeNeger | select xubuntu desktop | 17:31 |
| qwebirc2953 | only? | 17:31 |
| NickDeNeger | with space | 17:31 |
| qwebirc2953 | only xubuntu? | 17:31 |
| NickDeNeger | y | 17:31 |
| qwebirc2953 | k | 17:31 |
| qwebirc2953 | installing....... | 17:31 |
| qwebirc2953 | looks like it's is diferrent from the firts instalation | 17:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | first instalation was faster... | 17:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | i selectec xubuntu and samba that time | 17:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | now it's installing more things. | 17:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | mean: more packages | 17:34 |
| NickDeNeger | y sounds good ^^ | 17:34 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 17:34 |
| NickDeNeger | samba is used for windows shares you can install it later on if you need it :) | 17:34 |
| qwebirc2953 | retrieving file 751 of 766 | 17:34 |
| qwebirc2953 | <NickDeNeger> right | 17:35 |
| qwebirc2953 | i think now it will work. | 17:36 |
| NickDeNeger | let's hope | 17:36 |
| qwebirc2953 | ;) | 17:36 |
| qwebirc2953 | let me ask you, | 17:37 |
| qwebirc2953 | after installed, | 17:37 |
| qwebirc2953 | where i can find the drivers for the wifi usb stick? | 17:37 |
| NickDeNeger | probably you don't need any and linux reconizes it itself | 17:38 |
| NickDeNeger | what branch is it? | 17:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | ;) | 17:38 |
| NickDeNeger | old thing? | 17:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | no | 17:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | 3 years | 17:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | windows xp can recognize | 17:38 |
| NickDeNeger | then linux probably supports it ^^ | 17:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | i hope | 17:39 |
| qwebirc2953 | i've never used linux before. Decided to start now. | 17:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | let's see what happens. | 17:41 |
| === WB2Colorado is now known as Growlithe | ||
| qwebirc2953 | 49%........ | 17:42 |
| NickDeNeger | there is allot of documentation on internet especially for ubuntu | 17:42 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 17:42 |
| qwebirc2953 | i'm reading about linux | 17:42 |
| qwebirc2953 | but only now, i got time to try and install it | 17:42 |
| qwebirc2953 | with this old laptop | 17:43 |
| === Growlithe is now known as WB2Colorado | ||
| NickDeNeger | ffs i can setup servers, routers and all different stuff with debian but i can't get the freaking vnc server to work xD | 17:51 |
| qwebirc2953 | 80%........ | 17:56 |
| qwebirc2953 | installing grub | 18:00 |
| qwebirc2953 | installation complete | 18:00 |
| qwebirc2953 | time to reboot | 18:00 |
| NickDeNeger | try | 18:01 |
| qwebirc2953 | <SiDi> once its finished, go to grub, and use the option to edit a line | 18:01 |
| qwebirc2953 | [13:25] <SiDi> (forgot what it is though :/ probably e or ctrl+e) | 18:01 |
| qwebirc2953 | right | 18:02 |
| qwebirc2953 | it started the xubuntu logo | 18:02 |
| NickDeNeger | then it's gonna work ^^ | 18:03 |
| qwebirc2953 | it's now asking for my user name | 18:03 |
| qwebirc2953 | but | 18:03 |
| qwebirc2953 | this time | 18:03 |
| qwebirc2953 | in the installation, | 18:03 |
| === Daviey_ is now known as Daviey | ||
| qwebirc2953 | it didn't ask me for one | 18:03 |
| NickDeNeger | try user: root | 18:03 |
| NickDeNeger | hmm nvm is protected | 18:03 |
| NickDeNeger | you are in a graffical user interface now | 18:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | root pw black? | 18:04 |
| NickDeNeger | ? | 18:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 18:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | GUI | 18:04 |
| NickDeNeger | y pw is blank but it's blocked (security :p) | 18:04 |
| qwebirc2953 | rigth | 18:05 |
| qwebirc2953 | right | 18:05 |
| qwebirc2953 | any way to create a user now? | 18:05 |
| NickDeNeger | ehhh yeah but i don't know how exactly... | 18:06 |
| qwebirc2953 | Sidi | 18:06 |
| NickDeNeger | press ctrl+alt+backspace | 18:06 |
| NickDeNeger | that should kill the GUI | 18:06 |
| qwebirc2953 | no | 18:06 |
| qwebirc2953 | still in the GUI | 18:06 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: ctrl+alt+backspace is disabled by default | 18:07 |
| SiDi | Ok, so you're in the blue-ish login window, qwebirc2953 ? | 18:07 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 18:07 |
| NickDeNeger | in 8.10 and early it wasn't i guess? | 18:07 |
| qwebirc2953 | my name is Felipe ^^ | 18:07 |
| SiDi | qwebirc2953: type your username and password then :d | 18:08 |
| NickDeNeger | the setup didn't ask him for one | 18:08 |
| NickDeNeger | :p | 18:08 |
| qwebirc2953 | this time, the instalation didn't asked me a user and pw | 18:08 |
| SiDi | err | 18:08 |
| SiDi | is that even possible ? | 18:08 |
| qwebirc2953 | any way to create one now? | 18:08 |
| SiDi | In ubuntu, no :P | 18:08 |
| SiDi | you can't login as root AT ALL | 18:09 |
| SiDi | try user ubuntu, password blank | 18:09 |
| qwebirc2953 | :/ | 18:09 |
| SiDi | or user ubuntu, password ubuntu | 18:09 |
| qwebirc2953 | nops | 18:09 |
| qwebirc2953 | i have to install everything again? | 18:09 |
| NickDeNeger | you can chroot with an backup cd but i don't know how that works exactly | 18:09 |
| NickDeNeger | SiDi: you can type: sudo passwd | 18:10 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: a backup CD ? :D | 18:10 |
| SiDi | NickDeNeger: no because he cant type commands at all without having logged in before | 18:10 |
| SiDi | and you cant login as root in ubuntu | 18:10 |
| SiDi | apart from sudo su or sudo -s or sudo -i which require to be already logged in as a sudoer | 18:10 |
| qwebirc2953 | really a problem | 18:10 |
| SiDi | Yes | 18:10 |
| NickDeNeger | SiDi: yeah but you can enable root when you are in the console... | 18:10 |
| NickDeNeger | indeed ^^ | 18:10 |
| SiDi | you should ask in #ubuntu-installer how such things can happen qwebirc2953 | 18:11 |
| SiDi | its definately meant to ask for an username | 18:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | right | 18:11 |
| SiDi | and ask on #linux or #ubuntu how to chroot to an ubuntu install and to create users, but i think it wont be possible :/ | 18:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | i had this problem the very firts time i tryed to instal. | 18:11 |
| NickDeNeger | yeah, but he got some error's when the setup was loading | 18:11 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 18:12 |
| NickDeNeger | probably also the user setup mod failed to load... | 18:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | i entered in the recovery mode | 18:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | and there is an option like this: | 18:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | root: Drop to root shell prompt | 18:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | can it help | 18:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | ? | 18:12 |
| NickDeNeger | y | 18:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | rigth | 18:12 |
| qwebirc2953 | right. now i'm on prompt | 18:13 |
| qwebirc2953 | root@ubuntu:~# | 18:13 |
| SiDi | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183782&highlight=user+lost | 18:14 |
| SiDi | okey | 18:14 |
| NickDeNeger | type: adduser <username> | 18:14 |
| SiDi | wait NickDeNeger | 18:14 |
| SiDi | lets give him all the good options | 18:14 |
| NickDeNeger | ow don't listen to me | 18:14 |
| SiDi | he needs an admin account :) | 18:14 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 18:15 |
| SiDi | adduser --system USERNAME | 18:16 |
| SiDi | The rest should do itself with proper defaults | 18:16 |
| qwebirc2953 | "Adding system user 'felipe' (UID 111)... | 18:17 |
| qwebirc2953 | "Adding system user 'felipe' (UID 111) with group 'nogroup'... | 18:18 |
| qwebirc2953 | Creating home directory '/home/felipe' | 18:18 |
| qwebirc2953 | root@ubuntu:~# | 18:18 |
| qwebirc2953 | did it worked? | 18:18 |
| SiDi | Yes | 18:18 |
| SiDi | :) | 18:18 |
| SiDi | you should be able to login with username = felipe and with whatever password you set | 18:19 |
| qwebirc2953 | let's try | 18:19 |
| qwebirc2953 | ;) | 18:19 |
| SiDi | it's been hard... | 18:19 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 18:19 |
| NickDeNeger | if everything works it would be easier :p | 18:19 |
| qwebirc2953 | really hard for the first time. | 18:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | Everyone says the first time is harder....... | 18:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | ;P | 18:20 |
| SiDi | The first time is easier when you can boot on CD / USB :P | 18:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 18:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | but... | 18:20 |
| SiDi | have a look at installs via bootp next time ^^ | 18:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | it didn't worked | 18:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | incorrect user ow pw | 18:20 |
| qwebirc2953 | or pw | 18:21 |
| SiDi | >_> | 18:21 |
| * SiDi thinks about keyboard layout issues | 18:21 | |
| _Pete_ | SiDi: did you expect adduser --system to add user with sudo privileges etc? | 18:21 |
| qwebirc2953 | us layout | 18:21 |
| SiDi | _Pete_: kind of :P | 18:21 |
| _Pete_ | it's not like that | 18:22 |
| qwebirc2953 | should i try to reinstal? | 18:23 |
| SiDi_ | okey | 18:24 |
| SiDi_ | i read the man entirely | 18:24 |
| SiDi_ | and i was totally wrong ! :D | 18:24 |
| SiDi_ | So, the command was adduser --ingroup admin felipe | 18:25 |
| SiDi_ | sorry, qwebirc2953 :| | 18:25 |
| SiDi_ | _Pete_: thanks | 18:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | no problem | 18:26 |
| SiDi_ | qwebirc2953: you'll have to remove the user before adding it again of course | 18:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | how to remove? | 18:26 |
| SiDi_ | userdel felipe | 18:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | k | 18:26 |
| qwebirc2953 | should i type passwd username after to set a pw? | 18:27 |
| SiDi_ | it should ask for the password | 18:28 |
| SiDi_ | but type that it it forgets too | 18:28 |
| qwebirc2953 | Asked for a pw | 18:29 |
| qwebirc2953 | Full Name: Felipe | 18:29 |
| qwebirc2953 | Room Name []: ??? | 18:29 |
| qwebirc2953 | It also sayd that /home/felipe already exists and doesn't belong to the user i'm creating. | 18:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | What is Room Name [ ] : ? | 18:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | Room Number | 18:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | sorry... it's Room Number | 18:30 |
| qwebirc2953 | i leave in blank | 18:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | it says now: | 18:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | chfn: invalid name ' | 18:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | "adduser: '/usr/bin/chfn felipe' returned error code 1. Existing." | 18:33 |
| qwebirc2953 | it worked | 18:36 |
| qwebirc2953 | \o/ | 18:36 |
| qwebirc2953 | thank you SiDi, NickDeNeger | 18:37 |
| NickDeNeger | np | 18:38 |
| qwebirc2953 | but | 18:39 |
| qwebirc2953 | how i can see if it recognizes my wifi stick? | 18:39 |
| NickDeNeger | on the right top you see 2 computers | 18:40 |
| NickDeNeger | in 1 icon | 18:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | y | 18:40 |
| qwebirc2953 | no networks | 18:40 |
| NickDeNeger | go to console type: ifconfig | 18:41 |
| NickDeNeger | applications >> accessories >> terminal | 18:41 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok | 18:41 |
| NickDeNeger | does it say wlan0 or ath0 or something at all? | 18:42 |
| qwebirc2953 | no | 18:42 |
| NickDeNeger | hmm type: lsusb | 18:42 |
| NickDeNeger | this will list all usb devices | 18:42 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 18:43 |
| NickDeNeger | is your network adapter somewhere in there? | 18:43 |
| NickDeNeger | sec ordering food | 18:43 |
| qwebirc2953 | Bus 001 Device 002: Id: 0457:0162 Silicon Integrated System Corp. SiS162 usb Wireless LAN Adapter | 18:44 |
| qwebirc2953 | Bus 001 Device 001: Id: 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub | 18:44 |
| qwebirc2953 | that's all | 18:44 |
| qwebirc2953 | did it recognized the wifi adapter? | 18:46 |
| qwebirc2953 | ? | 18:48 |
| NickDeNeger | wireless lan adapter is your adapter so it does find it | 18:48 |
| NickDeNeger | do you know your wireless network name out of your head? | 18:48 |
| NickDeNeger | and the password? | 18:48 |
| qwebirc2953 | yes | 18:48 |
| NickDeNeger | k | 18:48 |
| qwebirc2953 | what should i do now to add the conection? | 18:49 |
| NickDeNeger | then type in your terminal: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces | 18:49 |
| qwebirc2953 | k | 18:49 |
| qwebirc2953 | felipe is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported | 18:50 |
| NickDeNeger | hmm crap | 18:50 |
| NickDeNeger | try: su | 18:50 |
| NickDeNeger | and blank password | 18:50 |
| _Pete_ | wont work | 18:50 |
| NickDeNeger | trying never hurts :p | 18:51 |
| qwebirc2953 | su: authentication failure | 18:51 |
| NickDeNeger | hmm then you got to get back in the recovery mode | 18:51 |
| NickDeNeger | and add felipe to the sudo users | 18:51 |
| NickDeNeger | although i don't know how to do that sec ^^ searching | 18:52 |
| qwebirc2953 | hum. | 18:52 |
| qwebirc2953 | ok NickDeNeger. I have to go now. Will be back onother time. | 18:53 |
| qwebirc2953 | I even dont know how to thank you | 18:53 |
| qwebirc2953 | Thank you alot | 18:54 |
| qwebirc2953 | SiDi and Pete | 18:54 |
| NickDeNeger | k bye | 18:54 |
| NickDeNeger | goodluck | 18:54 |
| qwebirc2953 | thank you | 18:58 |
| SiDi_ | its in the group admin ? | 19:01 |
| SiDi_ | if so it should be in sudoers x_x | 19:01 |
| SiDi_ | (at this stage, boot as root from the recovery console, and set a password to root... and login as root and create an admin account with the graphical utility x_x) | 19:02 |
| NickDeNeger | y or just at felipe to the admin group from the root recovery console | 19:03 |
| NickDeNeger | wh000t it worked! xD | 19:20 |
| NickDeNeger | got vnc \o/ | 19:20 |
| SiDi_ | :P | 19:20 |
| NickDeNeger | can you try one thing for me? type in console: vncviewer ownage4u.nl:0 | 19:26 |
| NickDeNeger | i guess it's open for all :/ | 19:26 |
| NickDeNeger | which is not what i want :p | 19:26 |
| NickDeNeger | nvm | 19:32 |
| === VampKitty is now known as KittyKatt | ||
| KittyKatt | If I wanted to find the file that xfce4-panel stores the entries for the Applications menu in, where would it be? | 21:10 |
| TheSheep | KittyKatt: /usr/share/applications/*.desktop | 21:11 |
| KittyKatt | Thanks. | 21:11 |
| TheSheep | KittyKatt: also ~/.local/share/applications, if you want to override something | 21:11 |
| TheSheep | KittyKatt: the sepcification is here: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/menu-spec | 21:12 |
| KittyKatt | Alright...so, I was using fortunes at the startup of my terminal just fine until a few minutes ago. | 21:26 |
| KittyKatt | It's now outputting this instead of fortunes... | 21:26 |
| KittyKatt | Command 'fortune' is available in '/usr/games/fortune' | 21:26 |
| KittyKatt | The command could not be located because '/usr/games' is not included in the PATH environment variable. | 21:26 |
| KittyKatt | bash: fortune: command not found | 21:26 |
| KittyKatt | Any ideas? | 21:26 |
| _Pete_ | in script accesss it with full path as the error suggests: /usr/games/fortune | 21:27 |
| KittyKatt | I don't know where I input it to do that, though... | 21:28 |
| KittyKatt | >_< | 21:28 |
| KittyKatt | I checked .bashrc | 21:28 |
| KittyKatt | Thanks. | 21:29 |
| dgpj | new to xbuntu...very much enjoying! how do I turn on my wireless card on my laptop? | 21:55 |
| SiDi | By giving me more than three minutes to answer. :( | 21:59 |
| NickDeNeger | lol | 22:00 |
| Chymera | hi, I'm using xfce and I would like to assign my multimedia volume keys to change the master volume of my entire computer | 22:50 |
| Chymera | how could I do that? | 22:51 |
| KittyKatt | [AmsG] I'll be back on tonight...gotta go for now. seeya | 22:55 |
| SiDi_ | Chymera: heya | 23:26 |
| SiDi_ | please checkout lp:~sidi/xfce4-volumed/jaunty | 23:26 |
| SiDi_ | (otherwise you can manually set the shortcuts as explained in http://open.knome.fi/2009/07/05/panels-disappearing-and-other-frequently-asked-questions/) | 23:27 |
| Chymera | yup, I'm looking into volumed already.... seems kinda messy though | 23:27 |
| SiDi_ | What seems messy ? | 23:27 |
| Chymera | I had to unmask some stuff to get it running, usually this isn't a good sign | 23:35 |
| SiDi_ | Chymera: what did you have to do exactly ? | 23:38 |
| Chymera | write the packaage names in /etc/package.unmask - anyway, no matter, how do I start it? | 23:42 |
| Chymera | SiDi_: ? | 23:43 |
| nicklas_ | yo | 23:50 |
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