[00:02] hi, I just installed 9.04 and I cannot change my keyboard layout to TR it shows the turkish flag on keyboard switch plug in but does not work. any ideas? [00:09] "setxkbmap tr" works [00:09] but xfce settings does not [01:18] i just did a new install of 9.04 but i only have a top of screen panel, can anyone tell me what might be the problem that i don't have a bottom panel? [01:26] i tried to sudo apt-get install gnome-panel but it said there was already installed an instance or similar [01:42] imfluxible, xubuntu uses xfce not gnome, it would be xfce4-panel [01:43] and it should be already installed, right click on your top panel choose customize panel to add more panels. === MrNaz` is now known as MrNaz [08:10] trying to help my friend in california install .. she has xp, and i don't know anything about microsoft, and neither does she, does anybody know what program might be on her xp by default to burn the iso? [08:18] there is no program on xp that will allow you to burn iso files out of the box [08:19] may i suggest a burning application? [08:31] Techie, sorry i was away looking for resources ... yes please suggest the best [08:31] i personally use IMGburn [08:31] http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download [08:31] so it is freely available to download to ms xp? [08:31] yes [08:32] cool, let me try to walk her thru it [08:33] once its installed you can right click the iso and select burn with imgburn if you want [08:33] then just put in a black disc and click the big button on the bottom left [08:52] Techie, ok, waiting for her to re-download buntu, she selected run instead of save ... lol [08:53] hehe [09:10] Techie, you there? [09:10] yep [09:11] im here [09:11] she says its offering her 'Advanced Reg Opt' to download, is that the file? Imgburn? [09:11] no [09:11] thats an ad [09:11] oops [09:12] which mirror site? [09:12] hmmm, i don't know what she's seeing ... mirror 1 betanews [09:13] blue button on the right [09:13] k, lemme tell her [09:13] it says Download Now (2,119 Kb) [09:21] still here? :P [09:22] gina says :: the ubuntu file not on desktop, where would xp put it normally? [09:22] umm [09:22] try my documents [09:22] there may be a downloads folder [09:23] downloads folder under docs? [09:23] yeah, might not be there though [09:23] you could always do a search for it [09:24] hit [windows key] + F [09:24] how do you search on xp [09:24] k, then? [09:24] all files and folders on the left pane [09:25] in the first box put buntu and click search [09:25] ubuntu* [09:29] she's trying. like the blind leading the blind. [09:30] she says :: OMG i foooouuuund it ... we'll see ...lol... [09:30] windows isnt any harder than ubuntu, its just that it doesnt have large support channels like this and doesnt have the might of the open source community [09:31] and you forgot, it DOESN'T WORK ... lol [09:32] common misconception [09:32] it does work, its just that alot of users dont know how to work with it properly, the same goes for any distro of linux [09:34] i hate it, i've never had money, so i've always had older equipment and machines always froze up, crashed, etc... , nvr happens with linux (in my experience - UNLESS i've done something stupid, which i have on occasion) [09:34] hehe [09:35] use your resources [09:35] convoluted coding, made to obfuscate [09:35] lol [09:35] i'm no coder, but i understand and believe that to be true, right? [09:35] theres only 2 peices of hardware in my computer that arent 2nd hand [09:36] windows code isnt as bad as its made out to be [09:36] ok, she found it!!! so, she just needs to insert disk, and right click you said to bring up imgburn [09:36] yay [09:37] btw if you didnt figure it out... im a windows user, but i also work with linux [09:38] i did, just giving you a hard time. i'm sure you know LOTS more than i, without a doubt. i toil thru everything, haha [09:38] so what will be img's options again? [09:39] no need to change any options, however you can change the burn speed and disable the verify procedure if you want [09:39] i can't see what she's seeing [09:39] ok, so i should slow the burn speed right [09:39] up to you [09:40] good writer and good discs and you can burn at full speed [09:40] if you doubt either then burn at a slower speed [09:41] not 100 percent familiar with her equipment, its a two year old dell laptop is all i know [09:41] yeah, maybe reduce the burn speed a little bit [09:41] hope i get a good install ... [09:41] not a big fan of dells [09:42] me neither ezackly [09:43] i bought a 300 doller acer couple months ago, and everyone says its sh$%, but i haven't had any probs complaints on it yet, does everything i tell it to [09:43] what specs? [09:45] houston we have a problem ... she said she clickd on the file and it took her back to ubuntu home page ... that doesn't sound like an .iso to me heehee [09:45] nope [09:46] she could do a search for *.iso [09:47] ahhh, good idea. but she just crappd out. tomorrow nite :P [09:48] kk [09:48] Techie, thanks ... see you tomorrow? [09:49] if im on, otherwise it should be pretty simple [09:49] k, laters then, thx again [09:49] np [09:56] hii [09:56] * Techie waves @ miguelonnnn [09:57] ;) [10:44] /away sleeping [10:44] ... why did i have a bunch of spaces in there???? oh well [10:44] Good night, Techie :) [10:44] night SiDi [10:51] i think i'll ever get bored to peple from different time zones [11:10] sry good night techie hope not being too late :S === MastaAce is now known as Prof === Prof is now known as ProfP30 [12:46] how can i change the mixer icon? [13:23] hi [13:24] hi [15:55] hi [15:56] i'm having some troubles with xubuntu instalation [15:58] hi asdfkjlhldsh [15:58] what problem do you have exactly ? [16:03] how can I stay connected to this webirc [16:03] ? [16:04] it loses conection every time [16:04] ctcp version [16:06] i cant stay conected [16:07] freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect] requested CTCP VERSION from tryingtoobtainhe: [16:08] you can't use proper irc-client? [16:09] hi [16:09] hi [16:09] i'm having some trouble with xubuntu [16:09] and with this webirc [16:10] you can't use proper irc-client? [16:10] problems with the webchat should be dealt on #freenode [16:10] i'm on webchat.freenode.net too and it works very well. [16:10] ok. [16:10] I installed xubuntu on my notebook [16:11] its an old Toshiba Satellite [16:11] and CD drive doesn't work any more [16:11] so, i made a cd image aproach [16:12] on installing, everything was ok [16:12] when the pc rebooted, [16:12] it asked to my user and pw [16:12] but in "console" mode [16:13] i filled user and pw, but i'm still on text mode [16:13] how can I start xfce? [16:13] you [16:13] can [16:13] start [16:13] X [16:13] with [16:14] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start [16:14] ok [16:14] i got: [16:15] this is IRC not IM. You can put more than a few words on a line, in fact multiple lines. :) [16:15] sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found [16:15] sorry [16:15] lol @ durt [16:16] i got: sudo: /etc/init.d/gdm: command not found [16:16] did you do a cli install? [16:16] yes [16:17] qwebirc2953: what CD did you use ? [16:17] clean install? [16:17] alternate cd [16:17] it looks like you didnt install XFCE [16:17] Are you sure you didnt install ubuntu server ? :/ [16:17] what does uname -r return please ? [16:17] then you need to install xubuntu-desktop (if that's the correct package name, anyone?). [16:18] returns: 2.6.28-11-generic [16:18] Alright, that's just weird [16:18] try: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [16:18] that will setup the complete xubuntu environment [16:19] probably you are missing allot of packages :) [16:19] "impossible find xubuntu-desktop package [16:19] actually, let me explain how i installed. [16:20] This notebook's cd drive isnt working [16:20] and it doesn't book from pendrive [16:20] boot [16:20] so, searching on ubuntu documentation, i found: [16:21] * Installation * FromWindows * The CD image approach [16:22] "Note: This method only works with the Alternate Ubuntu install CD." [16:22] qwebirc2953: could you please paste the documentation ? [16:22] ok [16:22] or the url [16:22] If for some reason you can not (do not want to) write the CD it is possible to use the ISO image to do the installation from hard disk. * Create a directory called hd-media in the root directory of the first primary partition of your hard drive (usually drive c:\, which it will be referred to as from now on). * Download vmlinuz and initrd.gz from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/instal [16:22] better hrl [16:22] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows [16:22] ty [16:23] I used The CD image approach [16:23] with Xubuntu Alternate CD [16:25] huh, Download vmlinuz and initrd.gz from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ and save them to hd-media [16:25] These files don't exist :/ [16:25] i downloaded from [16:25] the last ubuntu distro [16:25] jaunty [16:26] after booting you got the installer? and you didn't get any error's during the installation? [16:26] qwebirc2953: can you try to type ubiquity in a command line please ? [16:26] no error [16:26] I think you got booted into a LiveCD (installed in your partition) [16:26] you're not booted into an actually installed system [16:27] ubiquity not found [16:27] in fact, [16:27] i have the alternate cd imagem on the hd [16:27] then ubiquity should be there [16:28] what should i do? [16:29] i'm tryng to instal linux on this notebook [16:30] but i can't use CD. [16:30] Well, can you reach the internet from your machine ? [16:30] from windows yes. [16:30] if you can then you can do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [16:30] From the linux box, i meant [16:30] no [16:30] What network configuration do you have ? [16:31] this note doesn't have cable ethernet [16:31] just a usb wifi [16:31] What does iwlist wlan0 scan say ? [16:32] not installed [16:32] i really dont understand. [16:33] it sounds he only got the kernel module... [16:33] on instalation, everything gone ok [16:33] NickDeNeger: yeh, sounds like that... [16:33] just like that, is your console something like ubuntu@ubuntu~: or (initramfs): ? [16:34] felipe@felipenote:~$ [16:34] So, once you booted the first time, you DID perform an install, right ? [16:34] yes [16:34] but, [16:34] i think i will try again [16:35] well, it looks like nothing got installed at all :] [16:35] yes. [16:35] maybe if he setups his wireless and add a repository he can get all? [16:36] did you select: use entire disk on setup? [16:36] no [16:36] i still have windows on other partition [16:36] so you picked manual and created 1 ext3 partition and 1 swap? [16:37] NickDeNeger: yeh but he doesnt seem to even have the basic networking tools [16:37] i picked automatic create partitions [16:37] with /home and /swap separeted [16:37] hmm k that shouldn't be the problem then i guess [16:38] rigth [16:38] do you think i should instal again? [16:38] you can try? [16:38] i can login on windows [16:38] access internet [16:38] really don't know ^^ [16:39] never worked with that kind of installation [16:39] maybe the Cd image aproach doesnot work with xubuntu alternate cd. [16:39] i will download ubuntu alternate cd [16:39] and try [16:39] shouldn't make a difference but you can try [16:39] both installations are similar but with different basic packages [16:40] i rebooted [16:40] but trying never hurts =) [16:40] on grub I have: [16:40] ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11 generic [16:40] ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-11 generic (recovery mode) [16:40] Ms Windows XP [16:41] should I select recovery mode? [16:42] don't know... maybe SiDi knows ^^ [16:43] i have the complete iso image on another partition [16:43] if i can access it, [16:43] may be i can instal the packages? [16:44] try to boot every line [16:45] how I do this? [16:46] on grub I also have: [16:46] ubuntu 9.04, memtes86+ [16:47] I'm starting a clean install [16:47] maybe the setup didn't setup grub correctly and it's still booting the installer grub version [16:47] on the installation [16:48] reinstalling now [16:48] i got a problem [16:48] when the installer asks where you want tot setup grub type in: (hd0) [16:48] Error while running 'modprobe -v -yenta_socket [16:49] now it's loading addtional components [16:49] again the same error. I hit continue. [16:50] No network detected. [16:50] I select Continue or Go Back? [16:50] I have strictly no idea :/ [16:51] i selected go back [16:51] entered in hardware detection [16:51] again, no network detected. i hit continue. [16:52] Configure network. It is asking the hostname. i write "ubuntu" [16:52] how did you enter the setup? on boot: ms windows xp >> setup? [16:52] no [16:53] when i reseted, [16:53] it entered on grub [16:53] I selected Ms Windows XP [16:53] so it entered in Windows Boot Loader [16:54] I selected "Instal Ubuntu" (from the CD image aproach) [16:54] So it loaded the instalation program [16:56] i'm partitioning the HD now [16:57] #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs (where MS Win and the cd image are) [16:57] pri/log 10.5GB free space [16:58] i select the second one [16:58] y [16:58] and then Automatically partition the free space [16:58] ? [16:58] y [16:58] ok [16:59] it created: [16:59] #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs (where MS Win and the cd image are) [16:59] ntfs ? [16:59] that is the windows partition [16:59] #5 logical 10 gb f ext3 / [16:59] (btw your network isnt detected probably because you have an usb wifi dongle without drivers) [16:59] that's wrong ^^ [16:59] #6 logical 493.5 gb f swap swap [17:00] Okey, where are 2 3 and 4 ? :P [17:00] 493 MB you mean ? [17:00] don't know [17:00] yes [17:00] (thats a 20GB disc ?) [17:00] 493 mb [17:00] the root / should be on a primary partition not a logical [17:00] Okey [17:00] NickDeNeger: actually it should matter at all w/ linux :/ [17:00] shouldnt [17:01] i will delete this partitions, and leave only the ntfs one [17:01] hmm oke [17:01] although i would prefer to make #2 primary 10gb f ext3 / [17:01] right.. now I have: [17:01] #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs (where MS Win and the cd image are) [17:01] and swap at #3 [17:02] pri/log 10.5GB free space [17:02] delete every one apart from the #1, then go to manual partition, make a 4,5GB / ext4 primary partition, a ~512 mb swap one, and a 5GB /home ext4 primary [17:02] ok [17:02] you wont need logical partitions since you dont leave any room behind you :P [17:02] (but afaik linux is meant to be bootable from logical ones :/ ) [17:03] it's asking where i want the partition to be created on the space avaliable: beginning or end [17:03] (4,5GB / ext4 primary partition) [17:04] beginning [17:04] k [17:04] quick question, is it possible at all to takeover the active session screen (you see on your monitor) using vnc? if so i'll try harder xD [17:04] no. [17:04] i'm with the notebook at my side. [17:05] cant access from this pc [17:05] that wasn't a question for you ^^ i hoped SiDi knows ^^ [17:05] ok [17:06] now, it says I'm editing #2 partition [17:06] on partition settings [17:06] use as: ext4 ? [17:06] mount point: ??? [17:07] mounting point: / [17:07] and i guess ext4 is good to but i use ext3 (older version) [17:07] mount options: realatime??? [17:07] mount options: relatime??? [17:08] mount point: / [17:08] below mount point, is mount options [17:08] default relatime [17:08] but the other options are: [17:09] noatime, nodev, nosuid, noexec, ro, sync, usrquota, grpquota, user_xattr [17:10] leave relatime? [17:10] guess so... [17:10] NickDeNeger: i dont use VNC much :p [17:10] ok [17:10] Label: none [17:10] Reserved blocks: 5% [17:10] typical usage: standard [17:11] bootable flag: off ???? [17:11] bootable flag on [17:11] k [17:11] for the rest leave it as it is [17:11] for partition #3, just set ext4 and mount point /home [17:11] SiDi: me neighter but i hoped that i could takeover my media center box ^^ [17:11] and leave the rest as it is [17:11] k [17:11] NickDeNeger: by takeover do you mean remote control or do you mean remote control AND prevent local control ? [17:11] remote control is possible NickDeNeger [17:12] make sure your VNC server on your media center allows you to control it and you're done [17:12] hmm k i'll try harder, found some tutorials but probably i missed something somewhere hm [17:13] swap is ext4? [17:13] i dont have vnc here but there is a VNC configuration utility in ubuntu, its somewhere there [17:13] qwebirc2953: swap is swap ;) [17:13] no swap must be swap [17:13] right [17:13] i found here ^^ [17:13] y vino but it's not there for xubuntu ^^ [17:13] NickDeNeger: install it ;) [17:14] now i have: [17:14] #1 primary 9.5 gb B ntfs [17:14] y but i hoped to be able to use vnc server but configurating that is... well... like hell ^^ [17:14] #2 primary 4.5 gb B f ext4 / [17:15] #3 primary 510 mb f swap swap [17:15] #4 primary 5.5 gb f ext4 /home [17:16] writing changes into the disk [17:17] Now it's istaling the Base System [17:17] Now it's Installing the Base System [17:18] 42%.... [17:20] 63%.... [17:21] once its finished, go to grub, and use the option to edit a line [17:21] (forgot what it is though :/ probably e or ctrl+e) [17:21] ok [17:21] and then i'll ask you what the Xubuntu 9.04 line looks like [17:21] it should be pointing to hd(0,1) [17:22] 83% [17:24] 100% [17:24] 124% [17:24] += [17:24] :+ [17:24] now it's in: Configure the package manager [17:24] asking for a http proxy. [17:24] skip that since you have no network [17:24] i use none. so i will leave black [17:25] y blank is good [17:25] configurint apt [17:25] 100%. [17:25] now, Select and Install software. [17:26] "The installation cd does not support for you language. [17:26] Using english so [17:26] installing english language pack base [17:28] now, SoftWare Selection [17:28] "At the moment, only the core of the system is instaleled. [17:29] To tune the sistem to you needs, you can choose to instal one or more of the following predefined collections of software" [17:29] Choose software to instal: [17:30] [ ] Mail Server [17:30] [ ] OpenSSH server [17:30] [ ] print server [17:30] [ ] samba file server [17:30] [ ] xubuntu desktop [17:30] [ ] manual package selection [17:31]