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Cimiomg, dust on unr? who is the man behind that decision?02:15
rsc___unr?04:41
rsc___where is that?04:41
=== zniavre is now known as cinqpourcent
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kwwiigood morning10:22
SiDiheya kwwii10:25
SiDimac_v: i think you _seriously_ should stop posting about that issue on ayatana10:25
SiDiat best your last email is insultive towards celeste10:25
mac_vtries to ignore SiDi10:26
SiDiand she is an expert because she has A LOT of background in UI design (she's the person with most experience on that field that i know) and because she leads the most serious usability project of the floss world10:26
mac_vSiDi: that doesnt mean others views should be discouraged10:26
SiDiShe absolutely never said that10:26
mac_vSiDi: my reply was to scott!10:27
SiDiyes, but who does it aim ?10:27
SiDiscott doesnt consider himself an expert10:27
mac_vSiDi: it is aimed at no one10:27
mac_vSiDi: stop talking things out of context ;p , i said it in general!10:28
SiDihe just pointed out that you'd had quite rude words towards a person that is much more likely to point to actual problems than you and me, and whose opinion should be considered. He didnt say only hers had to be considered, just that she shouldnt be ignored10:28
SiDimac_v: i know, but it definately looks aimed at _her_10:28
SiDiwhich i dont believe is what you wanted10:28
SiDibut you have serious communication problems, mac_v :p10:28
* mac_v tires to gag SiDi10:28
mac_vSiDi: you have problems understanding!10:28
SiDi(when scott says " I think questions from people like Celeste would rate even higher than > ones for implementers." he is right btw :p)10:29
mac_vSiDi: read carefully , i mention everyone must be equal , several times10:29
SiDi(she's more likely than anyone else to point out to flaws that need to be addressed. Which doesnt mean only her can)10:29
mac_vhe is wrong!10:29
SiDino, he's not10:29
mac_vSiDi: the idea is the main , not the person10:30
mac_vSiDi: even a dumbass can at times give good ideas!10:30
SiDiceleste doesnt call herself an expert for the sake of any diploma, but because she has an awesome background in the matter. I had HMI courses and i dont call myself an expert :p10:30
SiDiYes, mac_v AT TIMES10:30
SiDishe doesnt give good ideas AT TIMES :)10:30
mac_vyes myself10:31
SiDiShe does it almost systematically10:31
* mac_v ignores SiDi 10:31
* mac_v doesnt want to argue10:31
kwwiiactually, celeste does have a degree (she is working on her doctorate currently, iirc) and does this stuff full time for money ;)10:49
mac_vkwwii: the problem is , Celeste did not take anything wrong with my comments! it was Scott who seems it in wrong vein! :(10:50
mac_vti take it*10:50
mac_vkwwii: she replied off the ML :( , i told Sidi this too! but :(10:51
kwwiiyeah, mailing list arguments can get freaky10:57
kwwiiand scott is easy to piss off, it seems10:57
mac_vkwwii: why is Bug #405426 , left as "in progress" , this has been fixed right?11:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 405426 in human-gtk-theme "Remove application icons from title bars" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40542611:00
mac_vor is it still in testing?11:01
kwwiimac_v: I did the work, not sure if it has made it into karmic or not12:19
kwwiimac_v: essentially, I was waiting for David or someone to make a decision12:19
mac_vkwwii: oh , it made its way into karmic , didnt you notice the complaints ;p12:20
kwwiimac_v: lol, nope...lucky me12:23
kwwiimac_v: just talking to mpt, he showed me the icon you made for the app store12:23
kwwiipretty good stuff, mind if I work on that idea bit further?12:23
mac_vsure no probs12:24
mac_vkwwii: i just couldnt fit more of the apps in the paperbag... :/12:24
mac_vso was thinking of making use of a basket12:24
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kwwiimac_v: yeah, and right now the most important one is the icon for the menu, which is tiny12:51
mac_vkwwii: just a wacky idea ;) , how about a building similar to the Canonical headquarters? with an Ubuntu logo?13:14
mac_vdoesnt have to be recognizable to all , but only a few would know ;p13:14
mac_vhehe , we could just say its a departmental store ;p13:15
kwwiihehe, unfortunately we only have the 27th floor in this building :p13:18
mac_vsshh!  no one knows that ;p13:21
* kwwii goes down 27 floors to have a smoke :/13:31
zniavrehaha13:32
zniavreooops sorry (but good for your health if you don't use lift)13:33
kwwiibetter yet if you go all the way down and *then* realize you forget your passcard to get back in ;)13:41
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mac_vkwwii: has mat gone on vacation?14:20
mac_vwhat happened to Boot ?14:20
kwwiimac_v: yes, he is on vacation this week14:22
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mac_voh...14:22
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mac_vkwwii: could you show your app store icon? ;p15:49
kwwiimac_v: sure, let me export it16:06
kwwiinot done yet16:06
kwwiihttp://imagebin.ca/view/9EHeRSiR.html16:09
mac_vkwwii: hmm... \o/ looks nice :)16:20
mac_vi think the logo could need a bit of contrast16:20
kwwiitrue16:21
mac_vkwwii: was this the same version you started earlier?16:24
kwwiimac_v: http://imagebin.ca/view/FGCcuVaz.html16:24
kwwiimac_v: yes, just started playing with it this afternoon16:24
mac_vthe 32 px looks awesome16:25
mac_vkwwii: hehe , we had the same idea ;)16:25
kwwiinow you know why I asked before I started ;)16:29
mac_v:)16:37
kwwiimac_v: http://sinecera.de/softwarestore128.png17:23
mac_vperfect :)17:28
mac_vkwwii: lol , at 24px i thought the red thing was a ruler  , now i realize its a screwdriver, right?17:29
kwwiimac_v: right17:30
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mac_vdashua: hm... you changed the restore ? what happened?18:57
dashuamac_v, Yeah, you said to do the squares?20:04
mac_vdashua: yeah , but i thought you liked the arrows... so just asked what changed your mind :)20:05
dashuaI do like the arrows, just thought this looked a little more consistent20:05
mac_vyeah20:06
dashuaThat one user was a mad bug reporter20:07
dashuaGot a lot fixed :)20:07
mac_vhrm?20:07
mac_vwhich reporter?20:07
dashuarebuilt g-p-m 2.27.92 with all debian patches and it still doesn't work right for sleep20:08
dashuaWtf?20:08
dashuabennii8920:08
dashuaHe reported 3 or four bugs20:09
mac_vhaha , there was one for humanity just now , 4-5 bugs in a row20:09
mac_vone was for plugins icon in gedit!20:09
dashuaHa20:09
mac_vit wasnt even in the theme ;p20:09
dashuaThat spinner is pretty sick the UNR branch20:10
dashuain*20:10
mac_vtell that to Dan20:10
mac_vdashua: he likes his version ;P20:10
dashuaWhat?20:10
mac_vthat the UNR spinner is better ;p20:11
mac_vthere is another version in Humanity20:11
dashuamac_v, Fork Breathe and Humanity and make your own killer set ;)20:11
mac_vhehe , i dont have that much patience...20:11
mac_vbut one day sure \o/20:11
dashuaNice20:12
dashuaHow are would it be to change the grey scale panel icons to the same color you made the Hanso metacity buttons?20:12
dashuaIs that a lot of work?20:12
mac_vnope its just a simple change20:13
* dashua bribes mac_v with a box a cookie20:13
mac_vbut i wonder if it would look nice20:13
dashuaI dunno20:13
dashuaProbably would not look too good on light panels20:15
mac_vit would become too bright with the same color i used for metacity...  and light panels it wont show properly :(20:15
dashuaYeah, maybe a variant or something20:15
dashuaIt looks really good in UNR especially with the new window-picker-applet20:16
dashuaAs it subdues the icons in almost the same color as the panel icons20:16
dashuaThe minimize icons20:16
dashuaminimized*20:16
dashuabrb20:18
dashuamac_v, The problem with Dan's connection animation is that I can not see it20:21
dashuaYours is crystal clear20:21
dashuaLike a radar20:21
mac_vi told him that20:21
FLOZzHello all  _o/20:22
mac_vbut everyone has their own bias , so i really cant force it too :)20:22
mac_vsince i'm biased too ;p20:22
dashuaTrue.20:22
dashuaFLOZz, Hi20:23
FLOZzhi dashua20:23
dashuaYou're not a greeter bot, eh?20:23
mac_vjust what i was about to ask ;p20:24
mac_v\o_20:24
dashuaFLOZz, ?20:24
mac_v\o/20:24
mac_v_o/20:24
dashua\m/20:24
mac_v_o_20:24
mac_vlol20:24
FLOZzwhat ?20:25
mac_voh ! FLOZz you cut my body! :(20:25
FLOZzo_O20:25
mac_vjust when i was about to draw the legs ;)20:26
FLOZzmac_v: are you crasy ? xD20:26
mac_v;p20:26
dashuaFLOZz, We are all crazy.  We use Linux and IRC chat.20:27
FLOZzYes... it's true...20:28
dashuaAnd a majority of the time have just three way conversations.20:28
dashuamac_v, You mess with new xsplash yet?20:29
mac_vdashua: hmm , no , BTW when it the final version coming out20:30
mac_vis*20:30
dashuaNot sure.  It works pretty flawless.20:31
dashuaOne minor flicker for me here on Nvidia.20:31
dashuaShould be soon, I guess.20:31
dashuaMaybe Thursday with a DX Team release20:31
mac_vthis time a lot of things are being completed only after feature freeze :(20:32
dashuaYeah20:32
dashuaThe LTS will probably be where it's at20:32
dashuaNew GTK theme and all20:32
dashuaUnless GNOME 3 messes that up20:33
mac_vdashua: Karmic +1 is totally going to be awesome20:34
mac_vtheme wise20:34
MDC1mac_v, any screens of that wonder theme?20:36
mac_vMDC1: it was an urban legend ;p20:36
mac_vso no one has pictures ;)20:36
MDC1hehe20:36
MDC1i hoped it was true for once..20:37
mac_vfrom what i have been told it is going to turn out nice :)20:37
MDC1i'm really tired of the brown now..it was cool like 5 min 5 years ago..20:37
MDC1hmm.. maybe little harsh to say in #u-d ;-)20:42
MDC1#u-a *20:42
mac_v\o/ channel split20:53
mac_vll20:53
mac_vcrap!20:53
mac_v\o/20:53
mac_v|o|20:53
mac_v\o/20:54
mac_v|.|20:54
mac_v /'\20:55
mac_v \o/20:55
mac_v |.|20:55
mac_v /'\20:55
mac_v \o/20:55
mac_v |.|20:56
mac_v /'\20:56
* SiDi slaps mac_v to wake him up from his inconscient dance20:56
mac_voops! i'm not alone20:56
SiDi:D20:56
FLOZzIt's a stupid techno dance !20:56
mac_vi thought there was a channel split and i was alone. ... ;p20:57
FLOZzxD20:57
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FLOZzBye21:21

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