| CIA-33 | ubiquity: evand * r3430 ubiquity/ (50 files in 8 dirs): | 09:09 |
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| CIA-33 | ubiquity: Merged Michael Terry's plugins branch (LP: #419989). See | 09:09 |
| CIA-33 | ubiquity: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/Plugins for instructions on writing | 09:09 |
| CIA-33 | ubiquity: new plugins. | 09:09 |
| evand | cjwatson: may I request permission to use one of your previous rejection notices as a template for further rejections? | 09:13 |
| evand | "Membership of this team confers commit access to parts of the installer, so it's only granted to people with a track record of sending good patches. Feel free to reapply after you've had a reasonable number of patches accepted." | 09:13 |
| ogra | evand, hey | 09:14 |
| ogra | evand, is there a way to make usb-creator only use it's dd functionallity ? we have the prob that it wont be usable on armel because syslinux isnt available, so i thought i'd ask if there is a way to use it without the syslinux parts before i unseed it ;) | 09:15 |
| cjwatson | evand: yes | 09:16 |
| evand | ogra: as in just dd an image to the disk, or mount the vfat filesystem, copy the files, but don't install the bootloader? | 09:26 |
| evand | cjwatson: thanks | 09:26 |
| ogra | evand, just as in dd an image to the disk | 09:26 |
| evand | ogra: that option is slightly broken in the devicekit backend (but works just fine in the windows backend), I'm fixing it today. | 09:27 |
| ogra | i'm aware it work be able to do all the stuff it does on i386, but if there is any use for it on armel i'd like to keep it | 09:27 |
| evand | You can either add a disk image via the Other... button or by passing the path to it on the command line using the -i option | 09:28 |
| ogra | hmm, you are not understanding what i mean :) | 09:28 |
| evand | ah, apologies | 09:28 |
| ogra | on armel we ship ubuntu-desktop | 09:28 |
| ogra | in ubuntu-desktop we seed usb-creator | 09:28 |
| ogra | usb-creator cant do its normal function (create a usb key from iso) because on armel syslinux isnt available | 09:29 |
| ogra | but usb-creator can act as dd frontend | 09:29 |
| ogra | if there is a way to make it act *only* as dd frontend on armel desktops we can still use it there | 09:30 |
| evand | hrm | 09:30 |
| ogra | if there is not, i need to unseed it on armel because it is uninstallable without syslinux | 09:30 |
| ogra | its not the end of the world to unseed it, but i wanted your opinion | 09:31 |
| * evand thinks of the best way to accomplish that | 09:31 | |
| ogra | and if there would be some kind of switch we'd happily leave it in as dd frontend | 09:31 |
| ogra | dpkg-architecture could tell you you are on armel and switch off the iso writing behavior ... but its some work to add such a check i guess | 09:32 |
| evand | I wonder what the best way to replicate preprocessor ifdefs in a pygtk application is. | 09:35 |
| evand | ogra: I'll see what I can come up with | 09:35 |
| ogra | evand, ok, tell me what you decide, the deps need arch specific adjustment as well if you really do it | 09:36 |
| evand | my current thought is to have another desktop file that gets installed instead of the normal one in usb-creator-gtk when the build system is armel | 09:36 |
| evand | this desktop file would provide another parameter that enabled some sort of dd-only mode | 09:37 |
| ogra | sounds good | 09:37 |
| ogra | would help on ia64 powerpc and sparc too btw :) | 09:38 |
| evand | ah, indeed :) | 09:39 |
| CIA-33 | ubiquity: evand * r3431 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog): | 09:43 |
| CIA-33 | ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: clock-setup | 09:43 |
| CIA-33 | ubiquity: 0.98ubuntu2. | 09:43 |
| CIA-33 | ubiquity: evand * r3432 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.99.17 | 10:02 |
| CIA-33 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r137 html/debian/changelog: releasing version 4 | 10:54 |
| CIA-33 | casper: cjwatson * r678 trunk/ (debian/changelog scripts/casper): merge lp:~tormodvolden/casper/empty-dev | 13:06 |
| CIA-33 | casper: cjwatson * r679 trunk/ (debian/changelog scripts/casper): merge lp:~tormodvolden/casper/guard-dev-nodes | 13:09 |
| CIA-33 | casper: cjwatson * r680 trunk/scripts/casper: move check_dev existence test up a bit to avoid problems with LIVEMEDIA_OFFSET | 13:10 |
| CIA-33 | casper: cjwatson * r681 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.190 | 13:12 |
| lool | evand1: Hey, around? | 13:15 |
| evand1 | lool: yarp | 13:15 |
| lool | evand1: I created an USB stick with usb-creator tip | 13:15 |
| lool | but cant boot it on two different computers | 13:15 |
| lool | I used an i386 UNR ISO from an amd64 install | 13:15 |
| lool | I had to manually umount /media/gibberish at the end of the USB creation and issued a "sync" before removing the USB key | 13:15 |
| lool | Not sure whether any of this is relevant | 13:16 |
| lool | What happens on boot is that I see a blinking cursor, and then nothing happens | 13:16 |
| lool | The USB key is only blinking for a couple of seconds and then stops | 13:16 |
| evand1 | is partition 1 marked as active/boot? | 13:16 |
| lool | No | 13:16 |
| evand1 | ah, set that and see if that makes a difference | 13:16 |
| evand1 | I just realized that I forgot to carry that over from the old branch | 13:16 |
| lool | Ok thanks | 13:17 |
| * ogra olways thought thats only relevant for dos | 13:17 | |
| cjwatson | no, some BIOSes care | 13:18 |
| ogra | ah | 13:18 |
| lool | evand1: no difference on both computers | 13:18 |
| AnAnt | cjwatson: when can I ping you ? | 13:18 |
| evand1 | hrm | 13:18 |
| ogra | AnAnt, you just did :P | 13:18 |
| AnAnt | hehe | 13:19 |
| AnAnt | cjwatson: last week you said you'll look at LP 416949 | 13:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 416949 in console-setup "Keyboard layout toggle does not work anymore in karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416949 | 13:20 |
| lool | evand1: I actually had the same thing last week with two USB micro SD readers and wanted to try again with a real USB stick to take that out of the equation; it seems it was truly the contents of the USB image at some level | 13:20 |
| AnAnt | cjwatson: I don't want to be annoying, but I know that sometimes ppl forget | 13:20 |
| evand1 | rather than the bootloader, you mean? | 13:20 |
| cjwatson | AnAnt: I said I'd look when I had a moment, and I haven't yet | 13:21 |
| AnAnt | ok | 13:21 |
| cjwatson | I have not forgotten and you do not need to keep reminding me | 13:21 |
| lool | I was fearing the BIOS might be sensible to various types of USB devices as I want sure the micro SD adapters were mass storage or not | 13:21 |
| evand1 | ah, I understand | 13:22 |
| lool | sudo syslinux /dev/sdb1 | 13:23 |
| lool | file is read only, overwrite anyway (y/n) ? | 13:23 |
| lool | odd | 13:23 |
| lool | and ^C releases a storm in my terminal | 13:23 |
| evand1 | oh yeah, don't do that | 13:23 |
| evand1 | I have a bug in debian on mtools relating to that | 13:24 |
| lool | evand1: Dont ^C or dont run syslinux at all? | 13:24 |
| lool | Is it safe to run on sdb1? | 13:24 |
| evand1 | don't ^C | 13:24 |
| lool | I was wondering if the bug could be that syslinux was run while the vfat was mounted | 13:25 |
| evand1 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=542635 | 13:25 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 542635 in mtools "mcopy does not respect input from /dev/null" [Unknown,Open] | 13:25 |
| lool | Running syslinux again didn't bring it any further | 13:25 |
| evand1 | I have another suggestion, just give me a minute to dig it up | 13:26 |
| ogra | lool, make sure btw that the drive is actually unmounted, i noticed that nautilus doesnt seem to properly unmount stuff if you click the eject icon nowadays | 13:27 |
| lool | ogra: I unmounted and sync-ed manually | 13:27 |
| ogra | ah, k | 13:27 |
| evand1 | dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/whatever bs=446 count=1 conv=sync | 13:27 |
| evand1 | I'm wondering if it's getting confused by whatever is in the boot sector. | 13:27 |
| lool | Oh that could be | 13:28 |
| lool | I didn't have ay | 13:28 |
| lool | any | 13:28 |
| evand1 | (another small bit of code I forgot to carry over) | 13:28 |
| lool | that's almost certainly the issue | 13:28 |
| lool | yup | 13:29 |
| evand1 | hooray | 13:29 |
| lool | evand1: thanks | 13:29 |
| evand1 | (and a big fail to me) | 13:29 |
| evand1 | sure thing, I'll fix that in trunk | 13:29 |
| lool | thanks for that too; do you want a bug? | 13:29 |
| evand1 | please | 13:29 |
| lool | Strictly speaking I guess one could argue that I was at fault for using an USB key without a MBR in the first place | 13:30 |
| lool | (It's odd that I know perfectly about MBR and bootable flags but didn't check these myself; I suck!) | 13:31 |
| lool | 425680 | 13:32 |
| evand1 | thanks! | 13:33 |
| CIA-33 | partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r713 ubuntu/ (90 files in 10 dirs): merge from Debian 71 | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | evand1, cjwatson: guys I'm just doing a wubi install off of todays iso. Also I'll do a install along side to try and sort out that grub2 issue showing vista up | 14:02 |
| davmor2 | evand1: wubi is caught up in a cycle at ubuntu boot time again | 14:12 |
| evand1 | davmor2: can you pastebin the exact error message? | 14:12 |
| davmor2 | evand1: I can pastebin the wubilog you don't get to see an error it just restarts the machine as soon as you hit ubuntu from the windows grub menu | 14:14 |
| evand1 | hrm | 14:14 |
| davmor2 | evand1: I thought you said rev 150 should be pulled in? | 14:15 |
| davmor2 | the wubi log says rev 142 | 14:15 |
| evand1 | it should | 14:16 |
| * evand1 investigates | 14:16 | |
| evand1 | weird, the wubi builds weren't producing new executables | 14:20 |
| davmor2 | evand1: I'll leave that one with you then and try again tomorrow :) | 14:21 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: afternoon. Right vista on, ubuntu on, vista still not showing up in the grub menu. However grub still pauses for 4 secs or whatever to allow you to select the os to use, even though it still only displays the ubuntu options | 15:13 |
| CIA-33 | usb-creator: evand * r158 trunk/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/backends/devicekit/backend.py): | 15:14 |
| CIA-33 | usb-creator: * Unmount partitions before writing a disk image. | 15:14 |
| CIA-33 | usb-creator: * Clear the boot sector code area and set the boot flag on the partition | 15:14 |
| CIA-33 | usb-creator: (LP: #425680). | 15:14 |
| tormod | cjwatson, thanks for merging those casper branches so fast! | 15:19 |
| tormod | it so more encouraging to fix things when it get acted upon timely | 15:20 |
| tormod | now, there is also bug #385305, I am unsure what is the best fix out of several options. if you have an opinion, I can prepare a branch | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 385305 in casper "[PATCH] fails to boot if RAID (dm-) devices are detected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385305 | 15:21 |
| shtylman | evand1: I worked on the kubuntu-slideshow and have a branch I proposed for merging into trunk... I didn't merge myself cause I wanted one of yall to review it and make sure I did everything right as I moved quite a bit around | 15:48 |
| evand1 | shtylman: wonderful! I'll take a look at it now | 15:48 |
| shtylman | evand1: thanks | 15:49 |
| cjwatson | tormod: I think it would be OK to require .disk/casper-uuid-$blah nowadays | 15:53 |
| cjwatson | tormod: I'm a bit reluctant to remove it altogether since it's (AFAIK) the only thing that lets image-written-to-unpartitioned-USB-stick work | 15:54 |
| cjwatson | tormod: to tell you the truth I'm not exactly sure I know all the RAID paths though, so if you have the relevant systems to hand you're probably better-placed than me to make a judgement call ... | 15:55 |
| evand1 | shtylman: You should get some text in the Konqueror page before we upload. | 16:07 |
| evand1 | shtylman: Also, may I ask that you update debian/copyright for the new icons before I merge | 16:08 |
| shtylman | evand1: indeed :) ... I will poke the kubuntu people to think of something...I am not best suited for that | 16:08 |
| evand1 | sure :) | 16:08 |
| shtylman | evand1: gotcha...now...the icons...I got some from wikipedia and others from the oxygen icon set... | 16:08 |
| shtylman | evand1: are there problems of use there? | 16:08 |
| shtylman | evand1: I unfortunately don't know the intricate details there... | 16:08 |
| evand1 | we're fine so long as they're under and acceptable open source license | 16:09 |
| evand1 | but you'll need to note the license for each in debian/copyright, as we've done for the other icons | 16:09 |
| evand1 | and if it's a license that isn't already included, add it to the copyright file. | 16:10 |
| shtylman | evand1: gotcha..ok..I will do that and also update the konq page once I get more eyes on it :) thanks for reviewing | 16:11 |
| evand1 | sure thing | 16:11 |
| evand1 | let me know when you're ready for a merge | 16:11 |
| shtylman | will do | 16:11 |
| tormod | cjwatson: what is the use-case for image-written-to-unpartitioned-USB-stick? can you boot from something like this in the first place? | 16:12 |
| tormod | one problem with the "ugly hack" path is that is stops looking elsewhere. maybe we can fix that. | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | I think you can, yes, and indeed the installation guide used to recommend it in some cases | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | it saves having to bother with partitioning | 16:18 |
| tormod | so the CD iso file is written to e.g. /dev/sdc? or only the squashfs file? and what are the "ext[234]" cases for? I don't understand all of the code yet, like the softlinking of this device. | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | you ask as if I wrote all this ... :-) | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | you certainly couldn't just write the squashfs on its own and expect it to work, but there'd probably be nothing much stopping you dding the iso9660 filesystem over | 16:28 |
| tormod | but you wouldn't be able to boot from it... | 16:29 |
| CIA-33 | usb-creator: evand * r159 trunk/usbcreator/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Use proper exceptions. Use a threading.Event object rather than a boolean flag to manage shutting down. | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | err. I forget then. bzr blame and see if you can find an audit trail? :) | 16:30 |
| tormod | all this * came from a debian merge so bzr won't reveal the guilty | 16:31 |
| tormod | if I knew which setups we want to support, I could make sure I understand those, and ditch the rest... | 16:32 |
| tormod | btw, is the plan to stick to casper for a while? otherwise I wouldn't invest too much in it. | 16:33 |
| tormod | only make a workaround the mentioned bug is fixed | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | I see no reason not to stick to casper | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | moving to live-initramfs would be a huge amount of work at this point and we'd have to make all the current stuff work again ... | 16:36 |
| CIA-33 | usb-creator: evand * r160 usb-creator/usbcreator/backends/devicekit/backend.py: Do not add CD drives to the targets list. | 16:36 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: Is there anything you would like me to try to get vista showing up on grub2? | 16:52 |
| davmor2 | evand1: did you get to the bottom of the wubi build issue? | 16:53 |
| cjwatson | I can't look now :-( I'm beating my head against totally reorganising developer permissions in LP | 16:53 |
| evand1 | davmor2: indeed, the latest daily-live should fix the issue | 16:54 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: Fun :D Not well I need to redo vista tomorrow to retest wubi :) | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | sorry, I know I need to find some time when you're free to debug it | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | cjwatson: your the one that needs to be free you gotta fix it :) | 16:56 |
| davmor2 | you're even | 16:56 |
| * cjwatson tries to figure out how to synthesise a test upload for LP | 16:57 | |
| lool | Did anybody test casper-rw persistence recently? | 19:06 |
| lool | I think it OOPSes | 19:11 |
| lool | with aufs that is | 19:12 |
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