[00:09] <RainCT> funkyHat: Maybe you'll find something here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
[00:11] <funkyHat> Thanks RainCT :)
[01:19] <ScottK> funkyHat: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ is another place to look.
[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:35] <Ryan52> dholbach: you sponsored my upload?
[07:36] <dholbach> Ryan52: yes :)
[07:37]  * Ryan52 was slightly confused by that
[07:37] <Ryan52> well thanks :)
[07:38] <dholbach> no worries :)
[07:49] <SkyNetMaster> morning :) I'm trying to create deb file of gcc compiled for specific mcu arch. but cant figure out couple of things
[07:49] <SkyNetMaster> how can I point from rules to specific make file?
[07:51] <SkyNetMaster> is there a way to just make packge of existing obj files?
[08:10] <AnAnt> iulian: Hello, I thought Ubuntu was in feature freeze ?
[08:11] <iulian> AnAnt: You're right.
[08:12] <AnAnt> iulian: doesn't that mean that FFe was needed ?
[08:12] <iulian> AnAnt: You're talking about gw6c?
[08:13] <iulian> AnAnt: It doesn't need a FFe.
[08:13] <AnAnt> iulian: well, what I mean is. when should I ask for FFe and when not to ?
[08:13] <iulian> AnAnt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[08:15] <lool> Is there an email alias for MOTU release folks?
[08:16] <iulian> No.
[08:17] <lool> Ok thanks
[08:17] <lool> Do they use ubuntu-release or ubuntu-motu mainly?
[08:17] <lool> I'm not sub-ed to -release
[08:35] <Hobbsee> lool: i'd be surprised if motu-release@lists.ubuntu.com doesn't work
[08:35] <lool> Oh I missed that one; thanks
[08:36] <iulian> lool: Yea, we usually use ubuntu-motu.
[08:36] <lool> Actually I think I'll just use a bug as the wiki page documents our case as typical of a bug anyway
[08:36]  * lool goes unsubscribing from ubuntu-release@ again
[08:42] <lool> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/425547
[09:22] <andv> dholbach, hi
[09:22] <andv> dholbach, are you sure the versioning used in gnome-web-photo is right?
[09:22] <andv> dholbach, I wanted to ping asac about it (as it's written in the bug report)
[09:23] <andv> I was assigned to do that but looks like the package got uploaded already
[09:32] <asac> andv: check with rail
[09:32] <asac> i think he wanted to fix things
[09:32] <andv> asac, I wanted you to review the patch
[09:32] <andv> asac, plus versioning
[09:32] <asac> i cannot review anything if you dont give bug ids
[09:32] <asac> ;)
[09:33] <andv> asac, too late, it's uploaded already before I could give you the ID today
[09:33] <andv> asac, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/423822
[09:34] <jetienne> q. i got a given file on my disk, how can i know from which package it come from ?
[09:34] <asac> andv: looks fine. i talked to ryan about that before
[09:35] <asac> he did it
[09:35] <Flannel> jetienne: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[09:35] <andv> asac, is versioning ok?
[09:35] <andv> asac, new version looks like 0.8-0ubuntu2 and the previous was 0.8-0ubuntu1.ffox35
[09:35] <andv> asac, does that matter?
[09:35] <jetienne> Flannel: thanks
[09:36] <asac> andv: thats ok
[09:36] <andv> asac, perfect then
[09:36] <asac> andv: the .ffox35 version was just done because there were no real changes over ubuntu1
[09:36] <andv> asac, I pinged you yesterday night about it but you were off
[09:36] <andv> ;)
[09:37] <andv> so wanted to ping you this morning but found out the upload was done already
[09:40] <dholbach> andv: the versioning is no big deal
[09:41] <andv> dholbach, asac was the previous upload so I assigned that to me to talk with him
[09:41] <andv> dholbach, but anyway np
[09:42] <dholbach> andv: rather the versioing was a bit uncommon before :)
[09:42] <dholbach> but thanks for taking a look at it
[09:42] <andv> dholbach, yeah
[09:43] <andv> dholbach, I wanted to ask about that strange versioning e.g if we had to keep it or not
[09:43] <dholbach> it's "solved" now :)
[09:43] <andv> dholbach, I just hope gnome-web-photo works fine now
[09:48] <asac> well. i just approved a "sync" ... didnt i?
[09:48] <andv> asac, a sync? bug id?
[09:48] <asac> i already approved it
[09:48] <asac> in #ubuntu-devel is the bug id
[09:49] <asac> oh
[09:49] <asac> it was something else
[09:49] <asac> so nevermind ;)
[09:49] <andv> xD
[09:49] <dholbach> andv: hum, it just crashed now (gnome-web-photo)
[09:49] <dholbach> I'm filing the bug now
[09:49] <andv> dholbach, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/423822 this?
[09:49] <andv> dholbach, damn was old one
[09:50] <andv> dholbach, yeah, no one submitted a bug report yet
[09:50] <andv> feel free to open
[09:50] <andv> dholbach, let me download it
[09:50] <andv> dholbach, so I can try to reproduce it
[09:51] <dholbach> ok
[09:51] <andv> dholbach, crash at startup?
[09:52] <dholbach> andv: gnome-web-photo -m thumbnail http://web.de web.png
[09:52] <andv> apt-getting it
[10:01] <andv> dholbach, I get a cannot load shared lib
[10:01] <andv> dholbach, using gnome-web-photo.real as --help suggests
[10:08] <dholbach> andv: which version do you have installed?
[10:09] <andv> latest
[10:09] <andv> dholbach, 0.8-0ubuntu2, it should be the latest made
[10:09] <dholbach> yep
[10:09] <dholbach> weird
[10:10] <andv> dholbach, gnome-web-photo.real: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:10] <andv> you don't get it?
[10:10] <dholbach> andv: nope
[10:10] <andv> dholbach, did you build the package yourself? or did you download it from LP?
[10:10] <dholbach> from LP
[10:10] <andv> same
[10:11] <andv> dholbach, did you run gnome-web-photo.real
[10:11] <dholbach> I have xulrunner-1.9{,.1}{,-gnome-support} installed
[10:11] <dholbach> no
[10:11] <dholbach> the wrapper
[10:14] <andv> dholbach, gnome-web-photo itself works
[10:14] <andv> dholbach, .real not
[10:14] <andv> dholbach, but the --help  suggests the use of .real
[10:14] <dholbach> erm, that should be fixed then
[10:16] <andv> dholbach, Usage: gnome-web-photo.real [--mode=photo|thumbnail|print] [...]
[10:17] <dholbach> ask asac about it
[10:17] <andv> asac, why gnome-web-photo --help is wrong?
[10:17] <asac> .real is not supposed to work
[10:17] <asac> thats a bug
[10:17] <andv> asac, then the --help is completely wrong
[10:17] <asac> yes
[10:18] <andv> and suggests the user to use a command that won't work
[10:18] <asac> it probably used $0 to print the command
[10:18] <asac> yeah. would be great to fix
[10:18] <asac> check with ryan if you dont know how :)
[10:18] <andv> I gonna tell him to fix it
[10:19] <andv> dholbach, did you post a bug for the crash?
[10:21] <andv> dholbach, using the command you gave me makes gnome-web-photo to get stuck
[10:21] <dholbach> hrm
[11:33] <user_> hi out there
[11:33] <slytherin> user_: hi
[11:33] <user_> I need some help configuring LDAP and Radiu on Ubuntu LTSP
[11:34] <user_> can you help me
[11:34] <user_> Here is my situation
[11:35] <slytherin> user_: This is not the user support channel. Either try #ubuntu or see if you can find information on http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:36] <user_> thank a lot
[11:51] <loic-m_> Does https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/405783 need a FFE?
[11:52] <Laney> depends whats in the new release
[11:53] <loic-m_> a few new features, but most of it is a lot of bug fixes
[11:53] <geser> check upstream changelog
[11:53] <geser> if there are new features then a FFe is needed
[11:53] <slytherin> I have a question regarding FFE. If a debian/ubuntu revision of a package introduces new binary packages (-doc), will it need FFE?
[11:54] <loic-m_> Laney, geser, thanks. I'll fill a FFE
[11:55] <geser> loic-m_: don't open a new bug for it, but turn the sync request into one (add the missing parts)
[11:56] <geser> that way all info will stay in one place
[11:56] <loic-m_> thanks, that's what I was planning to do, sorry I wasn't clear
[12:15] <slytherin> Can anyone help me debug a particular problem with nautilus-sendto build?
[12:35] <geser> I can try
[13:15] <geser> slytherin: what problems do you have with the nautilus-sendto build?
[13:31] <slytherin> geser: for some reason the empathy plugin is not getting built. The build deps are correct.
[13:31] <slytherin> geser: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31435636/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.nautilus-sendto_1.1.7-0ubuntu2~ppa1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[13:31] <geser> I'm looking at it already
[13:32] <geser> looks like a missing dependency on libcanberra-gtk-dev in libempathy-gtk-dev: Package 'libcanberra-gtk', required by 'libempathy-gtk', not found
[13:33] <slytherin> Can that cause a failure in pkg-config check for libempathy-gtk-dev?
[13:33] <geser> yes
[13:34] <slytherin> hmm, let me check if adding libcanberra-gtk-dev to nautilus-sendto build-dep list fixes the problem.
[13:35] <geser> configure: ** empathy plugin enabled
[13:35] <geser> but the right fix is to fix libempathy-gtk-dev
[13:35] <geser> to add the missing dependency
[13:35] <slytherin> yes, I will file a bug tonight.
[13:38] <geser> will file one as I've currently the needed info at hand anyways
[13:39] <slytherin> Ok. Thanks.
[13:46] <geser> slytherin: bug #425692
[13:48] <walterl> hi
[13:48] <walterl> how do i create a karmic pbuilder setup on jaunty?
[13:49] <Laney> using pbuilder-dist is easiest
[13:51] <walterl> Laney: thanks
[13:51] <slytherin> walterl: change value of DISTRIBUTION in pbuilderrc. You will also need to change the name of base.tar.gz.
[13:51] <slytherin> walterl: more details here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[13:52] <slytherin> geser: subscribed.
[13:52] <walterl> slytherin: thanks :)
[13:52] <blackxored> slytherin, hi
[13:52] <slytherin> blackxored: hi
[13:52] <blackxored> slytherin, sorry to say I had no time for swt-gtk this weekend, but since the issue is minor, I'll check probably tonight
[13:53] <slytherin> blackxored: No issues. If you do please let me know. I have done the merge but actually not uploaded it.
[13:54] <blackxored> slytherin, sure I will, it builds on ubuntu fine, doesn't it. My concerns are on ppc
[13:55] <slytherin> blackxored: ppc should not be a problem my logic was fulproof. :-)
[13:55] <blackxored> slytherin, sure it was, who said ;)
[13:56] <slytherin> anyway, I will check on powerpc before merge/sync.
[13:59] <blackxored> slytherin, exactly my point
[14:03] <blackxored> slytherin, back to work, tonight I'll push some eclipse changes, and fix AWT_LIB_PATH
[14:04] <slytherin> sure.
[14:05] <blackxored> slytherin, glad to here azureus 4.2.0.8-1 got accepted on karmic ;)
[14:22] <slytherin> geser: you forgot to subscribe the main-sponsors team to that bug.
[14:26] <geser> thought about that, but as empathy is in ~ubuntu-desktop bzr, someone need to sponsor it who can also commit there
[14:29] <slytherin> hmm, maybe dholbach can
[14:29] <geser> slytherin: seb128 took already care of it
[14:30] <slytherin> :-)
[15:18] <zooko> Good morning, folks!  (UTC-6)
[15:21] <funkyHat> Good afternoon, zooko
[16:14] <zooko> iulian: I invoked your name on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/421802 .  Are you still planning to upload Tahoe-LAFS?
[16:25] <iulian> zooko: Sure.  Are all dependencies in Karmic?
[16:26] <zooko> iulian: yes, except pycryptopp is still only in the Karmic queue.
[16:28] <iulian> zooko: Hm, does Tahoe-LAFS depend on pycryptopp?
[16:29] <zooko> Yes.
[16:30] <zooko> Here is the ticket to sync pycryptopp from Debian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/289431
[17:24] <blackxored> hello
[17:24] <blackxored> someone working on rubygems? there's this hobo gem (for rails development) that won't install with <= 1.3.2
[17:26] <blackxored> if that isn't the case is ok if I update it???
[17:43] <ScottK> You can put together a package and file for an FFe.  For something like rubygems it would likely be approved.
[17:44] <ScottK> blackxored: We've got 1.3.5 in karmic already.
[17:45] <blackxored> ScottK, oh right missed it ;) sorry
[19:02] <kaushal> hi
[19:03] <kaushal> anybody here using autossh ?
[19:19] <DWonderly> Question... from what I gather from the wiki page you guys make offical ubuntu packages either from debian or from source?
[19:20] <pochu> always from source, but the source may come from Debian
[19:20] <pochu> i.e. everything is rebuilt in Ubuntu, binaries are not imported from Debian
[19:22] <DWonderly> Okay... I've been wanting to get involved and I was on the Doc team but, most of the time I have to work on stuff is offline. This sounds like something I could do offline and still contribute
[19:48] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: Would you please have another look at the split up of packages in lekhonee?  I took a brief look at it in the New queue and it looks to me like there might be stuff in -kde that needs to be in -common.
[19:58] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK, sure I'll take a look at it. But, in fact, upstream was the one who told me which where the common files. I'll talk to him again though.
[20:03] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: I didn't try to run it, so I may be wrong, thanks for double checking.
[20:08] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK, no prob :)
[20:08] <joumetal> does bug424385 need anything more? it would be very nice to have new flashrom in karmic.
[20:13] <fabrice_sp> bug #424385
[20:16] <fabrice_sp> joumetal, no. Only a second ack from some from the Motu Release  team
[20:17] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK, Is the folder Chotha being installed into usr/share/pyshared your concern?
[20:17] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: IIRC, yes.
[20:21] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK, ok. The Chotha folder actually contains the specific files for KDE, though I'll check if that folder can be installed in other folder without breaking the app, because IIRC it did break it.
[21:13] <dhillon-v101> hi everyone I need some help with packaging
[21:17] <maxb> dhillon-v101: It will help if you try to be a bit more specific about what you need help with
[21:18] <dhillon-v101> maxb: great so can you tell me what to write in the rules file if I want to package some wallpapers
[21:18] <dhillon-v101> in a ppa
[21:19] <maxb> I'm not familiar with wallpapers, but I assume they are just files.
[21:19] <dhillon-v101> maxb: yah :-D
[21:19] <dhillon-v101> so what should I write
[21:19] <maxb> I would be inclined to pick an existing wallpaper installed on my computer, ask dpkg what package it is in (dpkg -S filename) and look at that source package, initially
[21:20] <dhillon-v101> can you name any because I don't know any of those
[21:22] <maxb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingWithoutCompiling may also be a useful primer
[21:22] <Lutin> hyperair: ubuntu-wallpapers (apt-cache search wallpapers
[21:22] <Lutin> err. dhillon-v101 : ^
[21:22] <hyperair> Lutin: what?
[21:22] <hyperair> oh
[21:22] <hyperair> haha
[21:22] <Lutin> hyperair: sorry :)
[21:22] <hyperair> np np =)
[21:22] <dhillon-v101> hi how are you
[21:22] <hyperair> umm was that addressed to me? O_o
[21:23] <dhillon-v101> yah
[21:23] <hyperair> eh i'm fine thanks
[21:23] <dhillon-v101> I forgot to put your name in the front
[21:23] <dhillon-v101> alright so I got a bunch of stuff on the terminal what now
[21:23] <hyperair> there's always a bunch of stuff in the terminal
[21:24] <dhillon-v101> alright so I did sudo apt-get source kdewallpapers
[21:24] <dhillon-v101> will that work
[21:27] <Lutin> dhillon-v101: if what you're interested in is packaging, what you want to grab is the source package. that will show you how the package is made
[21:28] <dhillon-v101> so I did put the right command
[21:28] <Lutin> oops sorry, I misread you.
[21:28] <Lutin> looks like I really should get some sleep. 'night
[21:30] <dhillon-v101> Lutin: looks like MOTU works too much :P
[21:34] <quidnunc> What is the command that compares version numbers again?
[21:34] <hyperair> dpkg --compare i think
[21:35] <hyperair> compare-versions
[21:35] <quidnunc> hyperair: thanks
[22:04] <c_korn> is there a command to know when the apt-get update cache has been called the last time ?
[22:04] <maxb> I guess you could check the update-manager source to see how it does it
[22:04] <DWonderly> I know in the update manager it states how long it's been since last update... It caches somewhere
[22:21] <c_korn> maxb: good idea. this answers my question: $ ls -la /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-success-stamp
[22:47] <quentusrex> Anyone know the best way to have launchpad ppa build for multiple releases?
[22:48] <quentusrex> so that I can upload only one package, and have it build for multiple releases?
[22:51] <ScottK> #launchpad is the channel for Launchpad PPA support.