| chrisccoulson | anyone from motu-release about? i was going to update gnome-user-share to the latest upstream version - i don't think it needs a FFe as it looks like a bug fix release, but i wouldn't mind a second opinion before i go ahead and upload | 00:18 |
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| chrisccoulson | a summary of the changes is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/266903/ | 00:18 |
| Laney | looks alright to me [not in motu-release] | 00:19 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney - thanks, yeah, i thought it looks ok too | 00:19 |
| chrisccoulson | just wanted to make sure:) | 00:19 |
| Laney | I think you should use your discretion and go for it | 00:19 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll do that then | 00:20 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 00:20 |
| nicklas_ | yo | 00:47 |
| nicklas_ | http://imagebin.org/62937 | 00:54 |
| showard | Hello, I have a question: | 01:19 |
| showard | 'm trying to use pdebuild to build a package, but it fails claiming "Unmet build dependencies" | 01:19 |
| showard | I thought pbuilder will get the dependencies? | 01:19 |
| RoAkSoAx | ScottK, Ok. Confirmed, the "Chotha" folder that was getting installed into "usr/share/pyshared" on the lekhonee-kde package is indeed a folder that contains the KDE frontend. If it gets installed in other directory, such as /usr/share/chotha/Chotha, lekhonee will fail to initialize | 01:19 |
| directhex | showard, yes, it will | 01:20 |
| directhex | showard, unless it cannot, i.e. the dependencies are not available from the repositories that your pbiolder is trying to use | 01:20 |
| chrisccoulson | showard - it's possible some of your build-depends are not installable | 01:20 |
| chrisccoulson | directhex beat me to it;) | 01:21 |
| directhex | it's touch being this awesome :| | 01:21 |
| directhex | tough | 01:21 |
| showard | (sorry for interrupting!) my .pbuilderrc includes main, universe, multiverse - i'll double check (hi chris! you've fixed someof my bugs i've triaged, thanks!) | 01:21 |
| directhex | showard, perhaps you're making version requests which aren't in the distro in question, or asking for packages which aren't in it? | 01:22 |
| chrisccoulson | it could also be that some of the build-depends have broken dependencies themselves | 01:23 |
| showard | i'm actually just trying to do a package that is already in the repos (k3dsurf) in karmic - so it must be a local config problem | 01:24 |
| nicklas_ | anyone knows if latest warsow will be in next ubuntu repos? | 01:24 |
| min | Hi, I wanted to look into a possible ALSA regression in Karmic. It's Intel HD Audio "00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge [1002:4384]" no longer has ALSA controls for Analog Loopback. | 01:25 |
| chrisccoulson | nicklas_ - it depends on what changed since the last version (we are in feature-freeze now), and if someone is interested in working on the update | 01:27 |
| nicklas_ | well, i have posted it on launchpad, but apperantly it was also posted, and there is alot of changes, wanna see the changelog? | 01:28 |
| nicklas_ | chrisccoulson, http://static.warsow.net/release/changelog.txt | 01:29 |
| chrisccoulson | nicklas_ - i just found the bug report | 01:29 |
| nicklas_ | see, lots of changes :-) | 01:29 |
| nicklas_ | oh ok :-) | 01:30 |
| chrisccoulson | that will need to follow this procedure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess | 01:30 |
| directhex | who do i need to bribe to get a new package into karmic? | 01:30 |
| ScottK | RoAkSoAx: Thanks for checking. | 01:31 |
| RoAkSoAx | ScottK, no prob :). | 01:33 |
| min | I didn't find a bug report on HD Audio in launchpad, has anyone experienced similar in A5? | 01:33 |
| nicklas_ | chrisccoulson, well, alot of people play the game | 01:33 |
| chrisccoulson | directhex - if it's a financial bribe you're offering, then you're welcome to bribe me (although, i can't actually help you get your new package in to karmic, but i will still take a bribe!) ;) | 01:33 |
| chrisccoulson | nicklas_ - that's probably not a good justification for updating it | 01:34 |
| chrisccoulson | that means more users to complain when something regresses | 01:34 |
| nicklas_ | chrisccoulson, hmm | 01:34 |
| crimsun | min: to what are you referring? | 01:34 |
| nicklas_ | chrisccoulson, well, what are good reasons? | 01:34 |
| min | Let me repost. | 01:34 |
| min | Hi, I wanted to look into a possible ALSA regression in Karmic. It's Intel HD Audio "00:14.4 PCI bridge [0604]: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge [1002:4384]" no longer has ALSA controls for Analog Loopback. | 01:34 |
| chrisccoulson | nicklas_ - i've no idea, i've never played the game before | 01:35 |
| nicklas_ | chrisccoulson, ;-) | 01:35 |
| crimsun | min: this channel is the wrong one; please use #ubuntu-bugs. Also, you want to use "ubuntu-bug alsa-base". | 01:35 |
| min | @crimsun Ok, thanks | 01:36 |
| crimsun | min: if you work quickly, just let me know the bug number in -bugs, please. | 01:36 |
| chrisccoulson | but good reasons are that it fixes annoying / long-standing bugs that users expect fixed, adds features with significant benefits which outweigh the risk of potential regressions etc | 01:37 |
| chrisccoulson | also, it is good if you've already tested it to say it works properly too | 01:37 |
| nicklas_ | quake live time | 01:37 |
| min | @crimsun Ok, will do. | 01:38 |
| directhex | nicklas_, \o/ | 01:38 |
| directhex | nicklas_, i am amused that quake live works best on ubuntu compared to windows/mac | 01:38 |
| nicklas_ | directhex, it does yeah :-) most games do | 01:39 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i should try playing this game? | 01:39 |
| nicklas_ | chrisccoulson, wich one? | 01:39 |
| directhex | chrisccoulson, just hit www.quakelive.com | 01:39 |
| directhex | (from firefox. boo, browser sniffing) | 01:39 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, looks like something i could play at work! | 01:41 |
| chrisccoulson | make the time go a bit quicker | 01:41 |
| directhex | yeah, but you need to expense a decent mouse now | 01:41 |
| directhex | the crappy HP i have is no good :/ | 01:41 |
| directhex | need to expense a $150 razer mamba somehow | 01:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll see if i can get our IT department to buy me one. i'll pretend i need it for some precision CAD work or something | 01:42 |
| directhex | and a low-friction gamer mouse mat. i recommend the razer destructor | 01:43 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't think they'll agree to buy me one though! | 01:43 |
| directhex | or wifey has a steelseries of some kind | 01:43 |
| directhex | s&s i think | 01:44 |
| chrisccoulson | cool! i haven't got any gaming gear here | 01:45 |
| chrisccoulson | but i do have a 800GTX which is completely wasted at the moment | 01:45 |
| directhex | i spent many a year scoffing, but a nice surface makes a huge difference - and whilst you can always kludge something to use as a mouse mat, it's easier just to buy a decent gamer-grade one which has a huge surface area with an immaculate low-friction surface | 01:46 |
| directhex | oh, lulz. i wonder how well gnome would cope with the Razer Naga, a 17-button mouse | 01:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure how even i would cope with a 17-button mouse | 01:48 |
| chrisccoulson | you could almost use it as a keyboard ;) | 01:48 |
| directhex | http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga | 01:49 |
| chrisccoulson | that looks nice! | 01:52 |
| chrisccoulson | anyway, bed time for me now | 01:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm up again in 4 hours | 01:52 |
| micahg | is it too late to remove epiphany-gecko from karmic? | 02:05 |
| ScottK | micahg: Why do you want to remove it? | 02:24 |
| micahg | it's EOL upstream | 02:25 |
| micahg | 2.26.3 was the last release | 02:25 |
| micahg | epiphany is now webkit based for 2.28 | 02:25 |
| ScottK | micahg: epiphany-browser is still 2.26 in Karmic. | 02:31 |
| ScottK | So it'd be premature in any case. | 02:32 |
| micahg | epiphany-webkit will be 2.28 | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | evening all | 02:32 |
| ScottK | We don't have it yet, so the question doesn't come up. | 02:32 |
| ScottK | Good evening LaserJock. | 02:32 |
| micahg | epiphany-webkit is at 2.27.92 | 02:32 |
| ScottK | micahg: epiphany-browser is not. | 02:33 |
| micahg | that's because it's orphaned upstream :) | 02:33 |
| ScottK | micahg: What is the ultimate source package for Epiphany? | 02:33 |
| micahg | well | 02:33 |
| micahg | I was wondering about that | 02:33 |
| ScottK | Keep in mind, I'm a KDE guy, so I know about zip about this. | 02:34 |
| micahg | in intrepid everything was in epiphany-browser(gecko and webkit) | 02:34 |
| micahg | in jaunty webkit was dropped | 02:34 |
| micahg | in karmic, now they are split | 02:34 |
| ScottK | micahg: Then I'd suggest talk to someone in #ubuntu-desktop about the plan for them. | 02:34 |
| micahg | ok | 02:34 |
| ScottK | In general it's not to late to remove obsolete packages. | 02:34 |
| micahg | great, thanks, do you know the best hours to find someone in there? | 02:35 |
| ScottK | Normal European working day. | 02:36 |
| micahg | ok, great, I'll check in about 4.5 hours :) | 02:36 |
| LaserJock | so when discussing "reviews" as in a review team or IRC channel, are we talking any kind of review (patches, REVU, sponsored uploads) or a specific kind? | 03:02 |
| ScottK | Dunno LaserJock. To me the mail sounded like what we normally do here. | 03:05 |
| LaserJock | will this channel go away with the archive reorganization? | 03:06 |
| * LaserJock wonders if perhaps that could be part of it | 03:07 | |
| ScottK | If so, then that ought to be explained. | 03:21 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: I don't think ghettoizing code reviews is a good idea. | 03:21 |
| LaserJock | ScottK: right, I'm just wondering if MOTU doesn't exist per se where things we do here would then be done | 03:27 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: I know we do all that kind of stuff for KDE relate packages on #kubuntu-devel. | 03:27 |
| ScottK | LaserJock: Also, I don't think MOTU not existing is a done deal. | 03:28 |
| superm1 | ScottK, i dont have any of the hardware to try to debug the PPC ia64 or sparc FTBFS | 03:30 |
| superm1 | those source packages are already on the newer versions, as are the i386 and amd64 builds | 03:30 |
| ScottK | superm1: Remind me of the topic? | 03:30 |
| superm1 | ScottK, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libraw1394-8 | 03:30 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 03:30 |
| superm1 | sorry, i've been out of town all weekend, just catching up :) | 03:30 |
| ScottK | No problem. | 03:30 |
| ScottK | superm1: OK. Since it's just ports archs, unless perhaps TheMuso or NCommander have a suggestion, we'll have to let it be, I guess. | 03:31 |
| ScottK | Thanks for looking. | 03:31 |
| superm1 | ScottK, okay. kirkland offered to look at PPC whenever he gets a chance as he's got some PPC hardware he can debug with, but that's whenever he gets some free time i guess | 03:33 |
| ScottK | Right. Good to know. | 03:33 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: re libraw1394, if I have time tonight, I'll take a peak, but atm I'm rather busy, so it may be at least tomorrow before I get to it. | 04:40 |
| ScottK | TheMuso: Thanks. It's pretty much down to ports stuff for NBS. | 04:41 |
| TheMuso | right | 04:45 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:03 |
| RoAkSoAx | morning dholbach | 06:03 |
| dholbach | hiya RoAkSoAx | 06:03 |
| RoAkSoAx | how's it going ? | 06:04 |
| dholbach | good good - I'm slowly waking up | 06:04 |
| dholbach | what about you? | 06:04 |
| RoAkSoAx | I'm pretty good, a little tired but couldn't sleep so I'm just here doing nothing xD | 06:05 |
| dholbach | :-) | 06:05 |
| RoAkSoAx | well I'm off now. | 06:10 |
| RoAkSoAx | night all | 06:10 |
| fabrice_sp | dholbach, do think it's worth filling a FFE for bug #283213. No MOTU has looked at that merge request in more than one month (and merge request for new package from Debian Multimedia scares everybody) | 06:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283213 in openmovieeditor "Please merge gmerlin-avdecoder 1.0.0-0.2 from Debian Multimedia (Stable)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283213 | 06:25 |
| dholbach | do you think it's worth or don't you think? | 06:25 |
| fabrice_sp | I'd really like to have latest version of Openmovieeditor in KArmic, but without this package, it's not possible | 06:25 |
| fabrice_sp | I already have it in my ppa (including latest version of Openmovieeditor) | 06:26 |
| dholbach | ok | 06:26 |
| dholbach | I'll take a look | 06:26 |
| dholbach | gmerlin-avdec was updated to 1.0.1-0.0 afaics | 06:27 |
| fabrice_sp | arghh | 06:27 |
| fabrice_sp | I'll have a look this afternoon then (to update the debdiff and fill the FFe) | 06:27 |
| fabrice_sp | thanks | 06:27 |
| dholbach | nevermind | 06:28 |
| dholbach | I guess the patch is still fine | 06:28 |
| dholbach | hum, maybe it isn't :) | 06:28 |
| dholbach | fabrice_sp: bug updated | 06:37 |
| fabrice_sp | dholbach, ok. I'll check this afternoon then. Thanks! | 06:38 |
| dholbach | rock on! | 06:38 |
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| slytherin | If I am rewriting the debian/rules file for a package, is it ok to assign a copyright to it? I am not the original packager. | 07:44 |
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| AnAnt | Hello, there's a package 'tablelist' that was only in Ubuntu, now it is in Debian, should a sync request be done, or shall this wait for karmic+1 ? | 09:26 |
| AnAnt | no merge is needed, since the Debian package is based on Ubuntu's package | 09:26 |
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| slytherin | I need to run xvfb during the build so that the doc generation process in the package can take screenshots. Can anyone help me with this? | 09:40 |
| kklimonda | anyone using bzr builder who could help me? I'm trying to nest packaging branch but I get package/debian/debian/ instead of package/debian/ in result. | 09:58 |
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| ScottK | AnAnt: If there is no technical benifit to getting the Debian version of the package in, I'd wait until Karmic +1 for the sync. | 10:13 |
| slytherin | Can anyone help me with xvfb? | 10:15 |
| AnAnt | ScottK: no technical benefit, my point is to make contributors in Ubuntu aware that it is already in Debian now to avoid duplication of work in the future | 10:15 |
| ScottK | AnAnt: At this point I think it's better to avoid unneeded change and wait for Karmic +1 | 10:16 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: won't that need a running X ? | 10:16 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: Does it? I thought the whole point of xvfb was to behave like X in memory without X. | 10:16 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: seems that you're right | 10:17 |
| slytherin | From manpage - Xvfb is an X server that can run on machines with no display hardware and no physical input devices. It emulates a dumb framebuffer using virtual memory. | 10:17 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: does the package build process run xvfb ? | 10:17 |
| slytherin | It does not, but I can handle that in debian/rules. | 10:17 |
| AnAnt | ok, I'm trying in a pbuilder env. now | 10:18 |
| AnAnt | hmm, what package has the fixed font ? | 10:20 |
| slytherin | No idea. | 10:20 |
| geser | AnAnt: this should be xfonts-base | 10:24 |
| slytherin | My main concern is that even doing a normal build (just usual configure & make) the screenshots that get generated are a bit ugly. They have a black background - http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2536/aboutdialog.png | 10:25 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: the issue is the black background or also that there is no window decorations ? | 10:32 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: what is the command to get a screenshot btw ? | 10:32 |
| slytherin | for now black background. window border is minor. This screenshot will be shown in java API docs of the package. | 10:32 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: The way I am trying it is - Xvfb :1 & and then DISPLAY=":1" make doc. | 10:33 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: did you try: xvfb-run make doc | 10:34 |
| slytherin | let me try | 10:34 |
| AnAnt | or even xvfb-run -a make doc | 10:34 |
| slytherin | what is -a? | 10:35 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: same result for most screenshot. For others it is uglier because there is not text in the screenshot (probably because it did not find correct fonts). | 10:38 |
| slytherin | I think for now I will skip the screenshots. | 10:38 |
| AnAnt | you'll have to depend on the packages for those fonts | 10:42 |
| AnAnt | and maybe specify font path using -s -fp <font path> | 10:43 |
| slytherin | too much trouble at this point of time. I want to quickly get this package in Debian and then FFE in Ubuntu. | 10:45 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: as for black background, do you want it white ? | 10:47 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: -wr create root window with white background | 10:48 |
| slytherin | No. I don't want that background at all. The API docs HTML looks ugly because of those screenshots. | 10:48 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: from where are you reading all these options? | 10:49 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: well, why doesn't the build script just take a screenshot of a window instead the whole screen ? | 10:49 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: Xvfb --help | 10:49 |
| AnAnt | slytherin: man page of Xvfb is poor | 10:50 |
| slytherin | AnAnt: That is question for upstream. I will ask them. | 10:50 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: hrm I don't know what the problem with libraw1394 is... It built fine on powerpc at least | 13:03 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: Or did I totally miss what you were talking about earlier? | 13:03 |
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| ScottK | TheMuso: The problem was some of the rdepends for the old NBS version. | 13:19 |
| ScottK | TheMuso: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/libraw1394-8 specifically mythvideo. | 13:20 |
| TheMuso | ScottK: Oh ok, I'll look tomorrow then. | 13:31 |
| slytherin | Is there any way to find out all the packages that provide x-window-manager alternative? | 14:14 |
| ahasenack | slytherin: "smart query --provides=x-window-manager" works for me. There may be an apt-like command to run too, but I don't know it | 14:16 |
| sistpoty|work | slytherin: you could grep /var/lib/apt/lists/* for "^Provides: x-window-manager" | 14:16 |
| slytherin | I am sure apt-cache has some option or I can at least user grep-dctrl. | 14:16 |
| geser | an approximation would be "apt-cache search x-window-manager" | 14:17 |
| sistpoty|work | oh, apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager seems to do the trick | 14:18 |
| slytherin | geser: sistpoty|work: used grep-dctrl. | 14:22 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 14:46 |
| sistpoty|work | hi bddebian | 14:50 |
| superm1 | sistpoty|work, you pinged me about something with ffmpeg and mythexport. can you file a bug with the details? | 14:50 |
| superm1 | or is there one already in place? | 14:51 |
| * sistpoty|work checks | 14:51 | |
| bddebian | Heya sistpoty|work | 14:52 |
| sistpoty|work | superm1: doesn't seem to be in place yet... basically it's just changing the depends/recommends against libavcodec-unstripped-52 to libavcodec-extra-52 (or anything else ffmpeg related that has -unstripped- should be -extra- now) | 14:52 |
| superm1 | sistpoty|work, ok, i'll let rhpot know | 14:53 |
| sistpoty|work | thanks superm1 | 14:53 |
| superm1 | sistpoty|work, in the future for this kind of stuff, try to file bugs though if you can as that was Really far back in my scrollback, it's a good thing I saw it :) | 14:53 |
| sistpoty|work | superm1: sure thing... getting the last bits of ffmpeg transition sorted is still on my todo-list :( (need to send a mail out -motu asap about that) | 14:54 |
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| dobey | anyone on the backports team can help me get a package into {hardy,jaunty}-backports? | 18:06 |
| kaushal | hi | 18:48 |
| kaushal | anyone have used autossh ? | 18:48 |
| kaushal | since its available in ubuntu | 18:48 |
| kaushal | !autossh | 19:02 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about autossh | 19:02 |
| micahg | !info autossh | 19:06 |
| ubottu | autossh (source: autossh): Automatically restart SSH sessions and tunnels. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4b-1 (jaunty), package size 24 kB, installed size 112 kB | 19:06 |
| slytherin | TheMuso: Now that linux is built on all ports arch, I guess a version bump is needed for linux-ports-meta. :-) | 19:39 |
| nicklas_ | hey, anyone knows the difference between nexuiz-linux-x86_64-glx and nexuiz-linux-x86_64-sdl ??? | 19:50 |
| directhex | one uses glx, one uses sdl? | 19:51 |
| nicklas_ | well, which one gives the best performance then? both works | 19:54 |
| slytherin | hyperair: the latest remuco version has an adapter for exile as well. But I don't see an remuco-exile package. | 19:56 |
| hyperair | slytherin: i didn't add it because it requires an exaile that didn't exist at that time. | 19:57 |
| slytherin | oh, ok | 19:57 |
| hyperair | slytherin: i'll add it this weekend | 19:57 |
| hyperair | required* | 19:57 |
| slytherin | hyperair: meanwhile do you plan to file FFE in ubuntu? | 19:57 |
| hyperair | for remuco? | 19:57 |
| slytherin | yes | 19:57 |
| hyperair | i can't think of a good enough reason to actually | 19:57 |
| slytherin | I thought the version contained quite few bug fixes and features. | 19:58 |
| hyperair | slytherin: it seems that exaile 3 hasn't entered debian, nor ubuntu yet. i won't add that package then. | 19:58 |
| hyperair | slytherin: features yes, bugfixes no | 19:59 |
| hyperair | http://pastebin.com/f5e078da2 | 20:00 |
| slangasek | quadrispro: please note the most recent changelog entry in the karmic version of kismet | 20:01 |
| slytherin | ahh, most features are in client. | 20:01 |
| hyperair | indeed =\ | 20:01 |
| slytherin | hyperair: But then ubuntu does not have client package. So users will need to download client manually. | 20:01 |
| hyperair | yes, that is true. | 20:01 |
| hyperair | but is that enough reason for a FFe? | 20:02 |
| hyperair | also, it seems that the wrong tarball was uploaded for remuco and hence has .jar's in it. | 20:02 |
| hyperair | maybe i should +dfsg it.. | 20:02 |
| quadrispro | slangasek: yes, I saw that, but... -> http://home.alessiotreglia.com/karmic/pool/kismet_2008-05-R1-4ubuntu1/kismet_2008-05-R1-4ubuntu1.buildlog | 20:03 |
| slytherin | hyperair: good enough reason according to me for FFE. And +1 for dfsg. | 20:03 |
| hyperair | slytherin: okay then. i'll go do all that over the weekend | 20:04 |
| * hyperair has a busy week | 20:04 | |
| slangasek | quadrispro: I'm not disputing that it's /possible/ to make kismet build in spite of the present eglibc/gcc-4.4 build, but the change you're making there is /wrong/ and will cause the package to FTBFS again when the root bug is fixed | 20:05 |
| quadrispro | ah, ok slangasek | 20:05 |
| quadrispro | sorry | 20:05 |
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| darkjackaho | hi there what is motu? | 20:24 |
| superm1 | !motu | darkjackaho | 20:25 |
| ubottu | darkjackaho: motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | 20:25 |
| darkjackaho | superm1: thanks a lot | 20:26 |
| darkjackaho | very quickly | 20:26 |
| desrt | hi | 20:59 |
| mruiz | hi all | 20:59 |
| desrt | if i want to add a patch that modifies a Makefile.am to a package then how do i get the makefile.in/makefile to be regenerated? | 21:00 |
| sebner | desrt: running configure | 21:01 |
| desrt | ./configure generates the makefile from the .in, not the .a | 21:01 |
| desrt | +m | 21:01 |
| sebner | desrt: makefile gets generated from both IIRC | 21:02 |
| desrt | automake generates makefile.in from makefile.am | 21:02 |
| desrt | you need to see that automake gets rerun somehow if you chage makefile.am | 21:02 |
| desrt | i'm wondering how to make sure that happens | 21:02 |
| sebner | desrt: you usually have to run autoreconf | 21:03 |
| sebner | desrt: after patching that kind of stuff | 21:03 |
| desrt | right. that's exactly what i'm asking | 21:03 |
| desrt | what's the best way to do that from the rules? | 21:03 |
| ahe | what exactly is meant by "Non-native packages must have verifiable cryptographic path to upstream source" criteria for new packages? | 21:05 |
| ahe | do i just need to put a sig from the upstream author somewhere into the package (and where should this be)? | 21:05 |
| sebner | desrt: are you using dh7 or cdbs? | 21:05 |
| desrt | i don't know. maybe neither :) | 21:06 |
| sebner | desrt: I do only know with dh7 sorry | 21:06 |
| desrt | neither, it seems | 21:06 |
| === micahg1 is now known as micahg | ||
| nicklas_ | hello, i installed some games, and did a reboot, when the desktop was about to start the panels they tried to start a few times before giving up, im using xubuntu and have checked, xfce4-panel package is installed | 21:19 |
| nicklas_ | anyone knows why this happen? | 21:21 |
| quentus2 | Is anyone familiar with reprepro? | 21:48 |
| quentus2 | I would like to setup a personal repo, for my network, and also have it proxy packages to lower bandwidth needs. | 21:49 |
| quentus2 | Anyone? | 21:50 |
| quentus2 | I have everything working except the part where if there isn't a package in the reprepro repo, that it goes and looks in a list of other repos for the packages... | 21:51 |
| quentus2 | I really don't want to have to use reprepro for personal packages, and another application for proxied packages. | 21:52 |
| === jtimberm1n is now known as jtimberman | ||
| mok0 | quentus2: you should use apt-cacher-ng for proxy http://www.ubuntugeek.com/apt-cacher-ng-http-download-proxy-for-software-packages.html | 22:32 |
| zooko | Greetings, people of #ubuntu-motu! Could someone please accept pycryptopp from the Karmic queue? | 22:32 |
| mok0 | zooko: what do you mean, "accept"? | 22:33 |
| mok0 | zooko: ... and what queue are you referring to? | 22:34 |
| zooko | By "accept" I mean, include the package into Karmic. I may be using the wrong terminology. The queue I mean is this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+queue | 22:34 |
| zooko | pycryptopp is awaiting acceptance (or whatever the action is), and once pycryptopp is in Karmic then we can upload Tahoe-LAFS. | 22:35 |
| Laney | you just need to wait | 22:35 |
| mok0 | zooko: I see it... it went in after the Feature Freeze, which means it will go into karmic+1 | 22:36 |
| zooko | There was a Feature Freeze exception request which was granted to put Tahoe-LAFS into Karmic | 22:37 |
| zooko | in part because Tahoe-LAFS is a Cloud Thing. | 22:38 |
| mok0 | zooko: ah | 22:38 |
| zooko | And pycryptopp is a dependency of Tahoe-LAFS. | 22:38 |
| zooko | Laney: oh, okay. | 22:38 |
| zooko | Thanks! | 22:38 |
| mok0 | zooko: well, it's in the hand of the archive-admins | 22:38 |
| james_w | zooko: the set of archive admins has a large intersection with the set of the people on the critical path for the alpha releases, so last week most had other priorities | 22:40 |
| james_w | I'm not in that intersection, but I've had too much wine to do it right now ;-) | 22:40 |
| mok0 | james_w: cheers *** | 22:41 |
| james_w | hmm, is the package taken directly from Debian? | 22:41 |
| zooko | james_w: :-) | 22:41 |
| zooko | james_w: pycryptopp is from Debian, Tahoe-LAFS is new, | 22:42 |
| zooko | and we're separately working on getting it into Debian. | 22:42 |
| james_w | ah, that makes it significantly easier | 22:42 |
| mok0 | It's a one-liner | 22:42 |
| james_w | we trust Debian's assessment, so wave things from there straight in | 22:42 |
| zooko | I'm glad that such a level of cooperation/trust is in place between these two projects. | 22:43 |
| mok0 | well a lot of those crappy debian packages would never pass REVU :-P | 22:43 |
| james_w | I'm not going to break my rule about sshing in to the machine that holds the actual Ubuntu archive when drunk for this | 22:43 |
| james_w | but I'll get to it tomorrow morning if no-one else has | 22:43 |
| zooko | james_w: sounds wise! :-) | 22:43 |
| zooko | Thanks! | 22:43 |
| * james_w spies two others in the queue with Debian version numbers | 22:43 | |
| nicklas_ | hey, how do you manage the menu in xfce? | 23:10 |
| RainCT | nicklas_: what do you mean by "manage"? | 23:13 |
| nicklas_ | RainCT, i have uninstalled penumbra in wine/playonlinux, but the menu shortcuts are still there | 23:13 |
| * RainCT uninstalled penumbra too :P | 23:14 | |
| RainCT | nicklas_: but no idea about xfce-panel, sorry. Maybe try in #xubuntu? | 23:14 |
| nicklas_ | there is no way to install a menu editor then? in xfce | 23:18 |
| kwadronaut | nicklas_: use your favorite editor and play with the xml. besides that, i don't believe this is the right channel to get xfce support. | 23:22 |
| kwadronaut | oh and the gui menu editors that i've seen for it, weren't good or great. | 23:23 |
| nicklas_ | kwadronaut, well, which editors are there then? | 23:23 |
| kwadronaut | vim, emacs, gedit, nano... add a NoDisplay=true to the appropriate file(s). | 23:26 |
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