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billybigriggerhey all00:25
billybigriggeri moved my virtual server over between hosts, and used the same vbox settings and all, i have vboxnetflt and vboxdrv modules loaded00:25
billybigriggerbut inside my 9.04 guest, i can't seem to bring up eth1, which is the interface configured in my /etc/network/interfaces00:26
billybigriggerbillybigrigger@sally:~$ sudo ifup -a00:26
billybigriggerSIOCSIFADDR: No such device00:26
billybigriggereth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No Such device00:27
billybigriggeri can see it's listed in lspci00:27
billybigriggeranyone have any suggestions i could try?00:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #425996 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.5.5-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42599600:32
poningruanyone around?00:36
poningrucan someone point me towards horde webmail installation guide?00:37
xenoterracidewhen I installed the server I told it not to automagically do security updates00:40
xenoterracidehow do I change that?00:40
oh_noesis it possible to install ubuntu server, then save all my options (disk config, timezone, dhcp,  etc) into a file00:58
oh_noesthen burn that file back into a CD or a USB or something00:58
oh_noesI know it's called pre-seeding but I want to know how to save it and then use that saved file00:58
jmarsdenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html  has all the details on preseeding if that is what you want to do.01:00
uvirtbotNew bug: #420805 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "apport package hook only run for mysql-server-5.1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42080501:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #425923 in qemu (universe) "qemu segfaults instantly (dup-of: 422295)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42592301:41
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KurtKrautI'm thinking of suggesting the owners of the MX servers I exchange the majority of e-mail traffic to stabilish a compresses gzip/lzo VPN with my servers to compress all e-mail traffic. If you guys receive this request, would you accept? Would you be worried about something?02:11
jmarsdenKurtKraut: Please don't crosspost... are you running Debian, or Ubuntu, on your server?  Use the appropriate channel.02:19
KurtKrautjmarsden, I have both Debian servers and Ubuntu servers. This is not a distro-specific question. I'm trying to talk to many people as possible.02:20
ScottKKurtKraut: Unless you were sending me money I'd explain that SMTP works via RFC compliant protocol and tell you to pound sand.02:24
KurtKrautScottK, but don't you belive this cooperative VPN would save bandwith for both sides, for me and you?02:24
KurtKrautBoth parts take benefit of the resource savings02:25
ScottKKurtKraut: I believe it's extraordinarily unlikely to be worth the trouble.  Per recipient SMTP is just way to painful unless it cannot possibly be avoided.02:25
KurtKrautScottK, thats why I'm thing to offer this to the MX servers I exchange the majority of my traffic.02:26
KurtKrautTo be worthy02:26
ScottKKurtKraut: Are you the majority of their traffic?02:27
KurtKrautScottK, no, but there is a chance I am. In that case, both parts would be interest in saving bandwith.02:28
ScottKPersonally, I'm more time constrained than I am bandwidth constrained so I'd still say no even then unless (maybe) it was apt-get install something from Main was all that was needed.02:29
PhotoJimcompressed VPN tunnels won't help on already-compressed data.  so if a large % of the email traffic is compressed attachments, there will be no gain and possibly a penalty.02:29
giovaniKurtKraut: VPNs are a huge pain in the ass to maintain02:34
giovanibandwidth is incredibly cheap02:34
giovaniI would never agree to such a suggestion02:34
KurtKrautgiovani, not worldwide. Outside US and Europe, processors and much cheaper than bandwith02:34
ScottKWell PhotoJim's point is also valid.  It may not even help.02:35
giovanithen surely you'll get a response02:35
giovanithere's no need to ask here, since we're not the ones you want to comply02:35
giovaniright, in addition to the issue of whether someone will listen to you is whether or not it's even a valid idea02:36
giovanithere's a large amount of overhead with most VPNs02:36
giovaniI doubt you'd see any reduction in traffic, if anything, an increase, not because of compression issues, but because VPN protocols add a good amount of overhead02:36
KurtKrautPhotoJim, OpenVPN compression tests the stream of data from time to time. If the stream is already compressed and/or it is not worthy to compress it again, it will stop compression to that stream and will check later if compression would be better.02:36
ScottKKurtKraut: It really smells of adding a lot of complexity  and not worth the trouble.02:37
KurtKrautgiovani, all the points you're making here are helping me to provide a better text to make the offer, already covering the points you guys are making here.02:37
giovaniKurtKraut: well the points I (and we) are making are meant to show you that it's not a good idea at all, not how to craft an email to them02:38
PhotoJimKurtKraut: oh, that's good to know.02:44
KurtKrautAnd many HTTP traffic is compressed.02:45
giovaniKurtKraut: yes, the content itself, inside of the protocol, not encapsulating it in a VPN tunnel which happens to be compressed02:46
giovanithere's a huge difference02:46
KurtKrautcurl --head --compress --silent www.lighttpd.net | fgrep gzip02:47
KurtKrautAnd, as e-mail, HTTP traffic has a lot of images, binaries etc.02:47
giovaniI'm not sure what you're trying to demonstrate with that02:47
KurtKrautgiovani, I'm trying to demonstrate that HTTP is widely used with gzip compression, I think e-mail traffic could have the same benefit.02:48
ScottKKurtKraut: You asked for an opinion.  You got several.  If you think it's a great idea, get an RFC published.02:48
giovaniKurtKraut: you're sorely mistaken if you're comparing content compression in HTTP to encapsulating SMTP traffic in a VPN tunnel which happens to be compressed02:49
giovanithis is an issue that's been discussed before: http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020404-gzip-compression-in-nntp-smtp-pop3-imap.html02:50
giovanitry using a real, planned method02:50
giovaniand not an ugly hack02:50
KurtKrautgiovani, thanks for the link02:50
giovanigoogle provided plenty02:52
quizmedoes anybody here have an epson printer/scanner?03:35
quizmePackage libltdl3 is not installed  <---- but libltdl7 is installed already04:33
quizmelibltdl3  <--- how do i install that ?04:34
ScottKquizme: libtdl7 provides libtld3, so it should be fine.04:41
quizmescottk: http://pastie.org/60915104:42
quizmescottk: the package won't install04:42
quizmescottk: can i install this?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libltdl304:43
ScottKPossbily.04:43
ScottKIt looks like the problem is it's a versioned depends and versioned provides aren't supported.  Where did you get the package?04:44
quizmescottk: http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL2.do04:46
quizmefrom there04:46
ScottKYou can try to install libtdl3 from Hardy, but it probably conflicts with libtdl7.  If you get any errors, don't force it, that would be bad.04:48
quizmeoh04:49
quizmethe iscan one works04:49
quizmei just did that one04:49
quizmei just installed that one04:49
quizmescottk: should i use this one? Source file (for 64bit architecture, Fedora 11 or later)  ?04:51
ScottKNo.04:51
ScottKPersonally, unless I really needed this package, I would pass.04:51
quizmescottk: it's for my printer..04:52
ScottKYou might ask them to rebuild it against libtdl7 (or do it yourself if source is available)04:52
quizmesource is there04:52
quizmescottk: how do i build it using libtdl7 ?04:54
ScottKDoes the source include a Debian style source package?04:54
quizmescottk there is a debian folder in there04:55
ScottKWhat is the libtdl related package listed in Build-Depends in debian/control?04:55
quizmescottk http://pastie.org/60920404:56
ScottKquizme: OK, so it's getting pulled in indirectly.04:58
quizmescottk: what should i do ?04:58
ScottKquizme: You likely can download that and then rebuild it and get an installable .deb.04:58
ScottKIt's midnight here, so I need to get to bed.04:58
ScottKThere's stuff on the Ubuntu wiki about rebuilding packages.04:59
quizmescottk: ok thanks. so i need to rebuild libtdl3 ?04:59
ScottKquizme: No, your package that you want.04:59
quizmeyou mean rebuild the .deb packgage from the source files ?05:00
ScottKIf you build it on the target platform it'll want libtdl7 as you have05:00
ScottKYes05:00
quizmeoh05:00
quizmeok05:00
quizmescottk can u help me build the package ?05:01
quizmei never built one before05:01
ScottKPossibly tomorrow05:01
ScottKOthers can probably help too05:01
quizmeok05:02
quizmethnx05:02
quizmegood night05:02
quizmeyou're on the east coast /05:02
ScottKYep.  Good night.05:02
quizmescottk: Type of package: single binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch or cdbs?05:09
quizme [s/m/l/k/n/b]05:09
ScottKquizme: You don't need to create a debian package, just compile one.  The question tells me you are following a recipe for creating one.05:10
quizmescottk: what's the command ?05:10
ScottKdebuild -us -uc05:10
quizmeso i just type that in the source folder ?05:11
ScottKYep.  It should give you useful errors if there are problems.05:13
quizmescottk: http://pastie.org/60921405:15
quizmeUnmet build dependencies: libcups2-dev | libcupsys2-dev libcupsimage2-dev libgtk2.0-dev libjpeg62-dev05:17
quizmeshoudl i do sudo apt-get install on all of those packages ?05:17
quizmeit's compiling like crazy now...05:19
quizmescottk: does this mean it worked ?   http://pastie.org/60922205:21
quizmehttp://pastie.org/609222  <--- did that compile the debian package ?05:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #330586 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql-dfsg subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33058605:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #391508 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso post-installation script retornou erro do status de sa?da 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39150805:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #398000 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 [modified: usr/share/mysql/sql-bench/limits/mysql-4.0.cfg] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39800005:36
jmarsdenquizme: Yes, looks like it built, but you have a pile of lintian warnings and one lintian error in that package which need fixing.05:38
ScottKquizme: Probably05:43
ScottKjmarsden: It's for his own use, so none of those are very important.05:44
error404notfound i got this: http://pastebin.com/m7fb38df3 in one of my server's logwatch email, whats this, is this critical?05:47
poningrulooking05:51
poningruhmm05:52
poningruit seems to be a kernel component somehow related to hardware times05:53
poningruyour cmos battery may be dieing05:53
poningruthough that is a complete guess05:53
poningruthe other alternative is reseting your bios05:53
uvirtbotNew bug: #394360 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "chown: cannot access `/var/run/mysqld': No such file or directory ERROR: 1146  Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist 090701 18:45:55 [ERROR] Aborting  090701 18:45:55 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete   * Reloading AppArmor profiles ...                                                                                                                    [ OK ]   * Starting MySQL database server mysqld05:56
quizmejmarsden: do you mena this one?  E: pipslite: debian-changelog-file-missing06:03
jmarsdenquizme: Yes... but as ScottK says, if this is just for your own use, the warnings and errors are safe to ignore.06:03
quizmejmarsden oh ok. great!06:04
quizmei wish i could help all those poor folks who have to go through this.06:04
quizmeis it possible to make a *.deb file06:05
error404notfoundponingru, thanks06:05
quizmethen i can send it to launchpad or avasys.jp06:05
quizmeor should i not mess with it ?06:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #399440 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.51a-24 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39944006:07
uvirtbotNew bug: #407845 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: ?????????? post-installation script ????????? ??? ?????? 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40784506:07
uvirtbotNew bug: #410635 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "impossible to properly install MySQL" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41063506:07
uvirtbotNew bug: #410974 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "I forget the bug,but I can't install the mysql-server on my ubuntu PC." [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41097406:07
roxy09hi there, I need that everybody from anydirectory can access to some library. Somebody know how i can do that?06:33
kinnazchmod -R 755 ?06:35
roxy09i mean, i need execute a program (which any user account) and this program call some library that is in somewhere. How I can set that they can look for the libray in some specific folder?06:52
roxy09alo07:29
jmarsdenJust put the library in the usual place (under /usr/lib/ ) and all programs will look for it there and dynamically link to it as needed?  Is that what you mean?  You are not being all that clear...07:32
* andol would rather use /usr/local/lib for that purpose. Putting things under /usr/lib could theoreticly cause a collison with the package manager.07:38
andol(In other words, for your own stuff, use /usr/local)07:39
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roxy09i suppose, i would like that any user account can execute a program and this program can route to the library07:45
jmarsdenroute to?  How do you route to a library?  What library are we talking about here?  Can you give us a specific example?07:45
roxy09i mean i am using a program and this program need a library ...i need to set if anything from anywhere and which any account that that call this library...the system can know ehre go for this library07:48
jmarsdenThe library should be installed into one of the standard places for libraries.  /usr/local/lib should work fine, as andol suggested earlier.  Did you try that yet?07:49
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the-dudeping soren09:38
sorenthe-dude: Yes?10:09
the-dudeare you working on cobbler on ubuntu?10:09
sorenNo.10:09
the-dudehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CobblerSpec ?10:10
the-dudeor is that just a wanted feature?10:10
sorenthe-dude: Wanted feature. I've never managed to find the time to work much on it.10:15
the-dudeso it is still open to get working on it? :)10:15
the-dudeim pretty far with it10:16
sorenOh, rocking. I'd love to review it.10:16
the-dudewill you be able to sponser me?10:17
the-dudedo I need to report it anywere that im working on it ?10:18
acalvoalexm: I didn't succed with sympa10:29
acalvomaybe I'll give it another try10:30
acalvowas very interesting though, because it had LDAP functionality10:30
alexmacalvo: what was the problem?10:31
acalvothe installation wasn't so easy10:32
acalvoat least, I didn't find it so easy10:32
acalvothe debian installer mixed up some things10:32
acalvoalthough I setted up another mysql server, it was pointing to localhost10:33
acalvothe DB tables weren't created10:33
acalvoand when I finally fixed up everything10:33
acalvofcgi wasn't working (or not linked)10:33
acalvothe apache configuration was not deployed10:34
alexmacalvo: too bad, maybe the package needs a bit of love ;)10:36
simplexioquestion: does .htacces affect php code executed on page10:37
domasit may10:38
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sorenthe-dude: Yes, I can sponsor it when we get that far.10:48
the-dudesoren: thats nice thanks, will keep you informed :)10:49
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* soren lunches10:52
highvoltageif kvm falls back to qemu, does it use plain qemu or kqemu?11:03
uvirtbotNew bug: #426197 in eucalyptus (main) "Walrus cannot be registered using the Web UI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42619711:26
alexmacalvo: did you try sympa on karmic or you depend on an older release?11:50
sorenhighvoltage: Which version of Ubuntu?12:07
acalvoalexm: root@venus:~# cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l12:10
highvoltagesoren: 9.0412:11
sorenhighvoltage: plain qemu12:11
highvoltagesoren: I remember that KVM just used to refuse running on this laptop so I was pleasantly surprised when it provided at least some fallback today :)12:11
sorenhighvoltage: Yeah, I think that changed in Intrepid.12:12
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highvoltagesoren: ah nice, it makes it possible to test some things on some none-vt hardware that can move to better hardware later12:12
highvoltagesoren: is there a ncie way to make it use kqemu yet or should I do a bit of hackery?12:13
sorenhighvoltage: You're going to have to do that yourself, I'm afraid.12:13
highvoltagesoren: ok, thanks for the feedback!12:14
sorenhighvoltage: np12:14
al_paunHi there12:27
al_paunI have a problem with imap-ssl on ubuntu ... in log i got this "Maximum connection limit reached for ... IP12:28
al_paundoes anyone knows how to fix this?12:28
al_paunjoin #ubuntu12:29
nijabaal_paun: using dovecot?12:30
al_pauni think it's cyrus12:30
al_pauncyrus yes not dovecot12:30
nijabaal_paun: ah, sorry, I know about dovecot mail_max_userip_connections, cyrus must have something similar12:32
al_pauni have MAXPERIP in imap-ssl config file12:34
al_paunwhat should i set to this variable (less i mean 10 or high number of connections 64)?12:34
al_paunit seems that some connections does not close (stay on CLOSE_WAIT) but they don't close.12:34
al_paunsometimes i got this error Unexpected SSL connection shutdown12:36
al_paunhow can I debug the courier-imap-ssl?12:37
zul_morning12:40
smoseranyone have a centos 5.0 dvd (i386 or x86_64, i need both).  I'm downloading them from bittorrent, but thats not going so quickly... been going for over 24 hours and only 15% on one of them. (htere is only 1 peer)12:58
the-dudesmoser: ?13:02
maswansmoser: well, maybe you should try downloading them from a mirror? or run ubuntu instead, which is much more awesome than centos.13:06
andolsmoser: 1) Wouldn't #centos be a much better question for that question? :) 2) Tried downloading directly (http/ftp) from a nearby mirror?13:06
smoser5.0 dvds are not available on any mirrors (5.3 is current).13:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #426245 in openssh (main) "german only: OpenSSH gibt Angreifern zu viele Informationen preis" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42624513:11
smoserprobably #centos would be better, agreed. i'm in need of them for ubuntu related work.13:11
smoserzul_, ^13:12
zul_hi smoser13:14
zul_smoser, i386 or amd64?13:14
zul_well it doesnt really matter: http://vault.centos.org/5.0/isos/13:14
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smoserboth, ideally. the i386 is coming much faster (~ 20k)13:15
smoserzul, there are no dvds there. only the torrents.13:15
smoserwhich are horrid slow13:15
zulyeah but there is six isos13:15
smoser6 isos. yuck. :) ideally i can do a unattended vm install that takes less than a week13:18
Claw6how to run a command after boot (not after login) i want to start hybserv after bootup because i alway need to start it by hand14:55
clustyClaw6, you need to create /etc/rcX.d entries15:10
clustywhere X is thje runlevel you want your thing to execute15:11
clustyi got 2 problem I hope you can help me with15:12
smosersoren, the reason i was moaning about bittorrent downloads is that the images (centos 5.0) i need have 2 peers, i'm getting ~ 10k right now.15:12
smoserfor a dvd image... only 11 more days :)15:12
clusty1)i got ldap user auth working but i cannot change passwords. whenever i do passwd i am askjed for ldap password which should not happen and no poassword works15:12
clustyi think something fishy is maybe going on with PAM?15:13
sorensmoser: :(15:13
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clusty2)i am having still some local net DNS issues. the nodes can resolve the DNS server machine but not each other. can some1 help me out? i wrote the zzone file to the best of my knowledge and the conf file for bind15:15
kpettitGood morning.  Any good ideas on setting up QOS?15:22
kpettitI'm running alot of services on a remote box, Asterisk being one of them.  Sometimes I get lag becuase the services compete for bandwidth so I'd like a easy way to make "SIP" the priority.  Any ideas?15:23
giovaniyeah, have the router/switch provide QoS15:26
kpettitIt's a hosted box, so I don't have that option. So I take it there isn't a easy way to do QOS at PBX level?15:27
maswanHm. What is the resonable way of specifying interfaces these days, when the kernel keeps renumbering for me?15:28
ivoksmanjo: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules15:30
ivokser..15:30
ivoksmaswan: ^^15:30
ivoksmathiaz: hi15:31
mathiazivoks: hi! how are you doing?15:31
ivoksmathiaz: you'd be jelaous if i would tell you :)15:31
mathiazivoks: hm - I getting ready! shoot!15:32
ivoksmathiaz: i'm sea kayaking15:32
mathiazivoks: hm - like right now now?15:32
ivoksmathiaz: but, i'd like to ask you something15:32
ivoksno, right now i'm waiting for the meeting :D15:32
maswanivoks: ah, thanks. last time I had reson to fiddle with that, was in the good old days of /etc/iftab15:33
ivoksmathiaz: anyway, i'd like to sync some packages from debian15:33
ivoksmathiaz: all are in main, so i'd need someone to push the magic button15:34
clustykpettit, i think you got l7 filters15:34
ivoksmathiaz: i'll report bugs, but i need someone who understands what to do15:34
clustykpettit, i never set it up myself15:34
clustykpettit, easiest is to get a separate box and install entangle15:34
clustyor whatever routing distro15:34
clustyhas evrything out of the box15:34
ivoksmathiaz: if i file bugs against openais, corosync and rhcs, it's possible that someone would sync rhcs before other two15:34
mathiazivoks: right. Reporting bugs is the first step, then subscribe -main-sponsors15:35
clustykpettit, for me at home a tomato flashed router works miracles15:35
mathiazivoks: ok - just write this down in the bugs15:35
mathiazivoks: which one should be synced first15:35
ivoksand if i file for corosync and wait for it, then wait for openais and then for rhcs, a week will pass :)15:35
ivoksok15:35
mathiazivoks: and the Archive Admins will do the right thing15:35
clustyanybody has to nerves to help me with my dns issues?15:35
mathiazivoks: they're intelligent people - they'll figure it out if it's written in a bug15:35
ivoks:)15:36
kpettitclusty: Its a hosted box and I only have the one hosted box.15:37
clustytry l715:37
clustythink some iptables magic is also needed15:37
clustyi am still scared of iptables :D15:38
clustykpettit, might try also TCP vegas :D15:38
clustykpettit, very very new algo15:38
clustydunno how efficient though15:39
kpettitclusty: I'm using arnos iptable scripts right now, but I don't have any QOS type of options.15:39
kpettitI'll look into those other ones you suggested though.  Thanks15:39
giovanikpettit: QoS in iptables is complex, and may not perform the way you want depending on how bandiwdth is limited15:42
kpettitgiovani: that's what I'm worried about.  Fun fun fun15:43
maswanoh, fun, fun. latest karmic kernel or grub seems not to boot.15:46
giovanimaswan: gotta be more specific than that15:47
maswangiovani: seems to be hitting #424503 now that I was more specific15:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #426309 in eucalyptus (main) "package eucalyptus-nc 1.6~bzr588-0ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: podproces nový pre-removal skript vrátil chybový status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42630915:51
maswanGoing to try the workarond mentioned in the bug before I rant more (or click "me too" :) )15:53
sorenivoks: Have you used glusterfs at all?15:54
ivokssoren: no15:57
ivokssoren: but i plan some testing15:57
sorenivoks: Ok.15:57
sorenivoks: I've played a bit around with it. I really like it.15:57
ivoksi tried it while it was a part of gluster (whole cluster)15:58
ivoksbut 'tried' like couple of seconds15:58
sorenivoks: drbd always gave me this unpleasant feeling.. If something went wrong, all my data would be eaten. With something like gluster, I just feel safer.15:59
sorenglusterfs, I mean.15:59
VirtualDisastersoren: i know the feeling15:59
sorenivoks: I'm not familiar with gluster (apart from glusterfs). What does it do?15:59
VirtualDisastersoren: hopefully w/ the arrival btrfs we can feel safer16:00
ivoksit was a livecd cluster system16:00
VirtualDisasterivoks: it is a cluster filesystem?16:00
ivokslooks like glusterfs is the only thing left from it16:00
VirtualDisasteroic nvm16:00
ivoksat that time, there was no gluster inc. :)16:01
smoserwhat is 'o/' ?16:01
sorensmoser: It's a head and a hand. It's me, waving.16:01
ivokswave16:01
smoserah16:01
smoseri thought the bot might be registering attendance based on that16:02
ivoksgood idea :D16:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #386463 in vm-builder (universe) "vm-builder images and configuration files should not be world readable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38646316:16
smoserhow/where does mootbot publish meeting notes ?16:19
Claw6okay again.... irc crashed.... i want to lunch "hybserv" after boot without login. at the moment i have to do it by hand dont want so16:22
Claw6how can i do that?16:22
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giovaniClaw6_: put a script in the proper runlevel directory16:32
smosersoren, ttx, zul ? how/where does mootbot publish meeting notes ?16:33
Claw6_clusty said i need to edit /etc/rcX.d16:33
Claw6_is that file loaded after every boot?16:33
sorensmoser: from this meeting or an earlier one?16:33
zulsmoser: umm...i think its on the web someware16:34
giovaniClaw6_: it's not a file, those are directories16:34
giovaniyou need to place a startup script, and name it properly in the right folder16:34
zulsmoser: you could always look at irclogs.ubuntu.com http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/08/%23ubuntu-meeting.html16:36
Claw6_what folder shall i use? rcS.d?16:37
smoseri just thought, since he's marking certian things, that those things would be highlighted somewhere ([action] and the like)16:37
zulsmoser: yeah but im not sure where it is off the top of my head16:38
coma_"configure software raid" is not showing!16:38
coma_but "Activate Serial ATA RAID devices?" is...16:39
Claw6_well there is ja start script of hybserv but it doesn´t work16:39
zulkirkland: ping why does bochbios needs to be a build dependency for qemu-kvm it doesnt use it anywhere by the looks of it16:43
coma_hi, is someone there?16:43
coma_some Dr. House for a Ubuntu Server instalation diagnosis?16:44
coma_oh well...16:46
geniicoma_: "activate serial ATA RAID devices"... along with no "configure software raid" hints you have some hardware raid solution on your motherboard16:47
coma_hi!16:57
coma_yes, the mb has a raid hardware enabled16:57
coma_but16:57
coma_if I use this it'll install everything without any problems... until I retart it...16:58
coma_the raid is not recognized16:58
coma_the mb is not booting with the raid17:00
ivoksmb don't have hardware raid17:00
ivoksthe thing you have is called fakeraid17:00
zulkirkland_:  ping why does bochbios needs to be a build dependency for qemu-kvm it doesnt use it anywhere by the looks of it17:03
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garymcI goto sound preferances: error message: gconfaudiosink profile=music: Failed to connect: Connection refused17:39
garymcthis is in my thin client17:39
garymcIt works for a bit/until i play about 6 songs then stops working17:40
garymcI get that error above17:40
nijabaDaviey: iirk... we lost all translations of the tips! :(17:40
Davieynijaba: yes, they are "fuzzy" translations.. Needing Review17:43
Davieythey are still there, but because of the pot string change, they are now fuzzy17:44
nijabaah, ok...  so we did not lose them.  good..  I was scared for a bit17:44
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uvirtbotNew bug: #225260 in kvm (universe) "control file description miss-leading" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22526017:46
uvirtbotNew bug: #243393 in linux (universe) "dmesg is flooded with warnings in kvm/mmu.c" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24339317:46
Davieynijaba: If they do get lost, they are in in bzr anyway.17:48
Davieybut they are actually in the .po files, just "need review"17:49
nijabaDaviey: well, on the translation interface in lp, it is as if there was nothing there at the moment17:49
nijabaDaviey: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-server-tips/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-server-tips/fr/+translate17:50
Davieynijaba, yeah hardly ideal - but if you check the "import queue"17:50
ahasenackis there someplace other than cdimage.ubuntu.com from where I can get the karmic server iso?17:51
ahasenackcdimage is too slow from here17:51
ahasenackit's like 12h to download the image17:51
maswanhttp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/17:53
maswanif you're lucky17:53
ahasenackthanks17:53
Davieyahasenack: cdimage.ubuntu.com AFAIK is the only place with the daily images.17:53
maswanit has alpha-517:53
ahasenackDaviey: I'm fine with alpha-5, I can update from there17:53
maswanbut not dailies17:53
maswanbasically I mirror the "releases" subdir17:54
ahasenackcool, that's better17:54
ahasenack200kb/s17:54
ahasenackmaswan: thanks!17:54
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zulmathiaz: what do you think of getting a FFE for dovecot karmic is still at 1.1.1118:36
mathiazzul: for what version of dovecot?18:36
mathiazzul: 1.1 or 1.2?18:36
zul1.218:37
mathiazzul: I think it's too late18:37
mathiazzul: why should we upgrade to 1.2?18:37
zulk what about 1.1.12 then since there are some bugfixes in launchpad that it solves18:38
mathiazzul: the latest version of dovecot 1.1 in unstable was 1.1.1618:38
mathiazzul: it seems that updating to the latest version of the 1.1 serie makes sense18:38
zulthat works as well but 1.2.4 is in unstable18:39
zulsure18:39
mathiazzul: it seems that upstream was mainly fixing bugs on 1.118:39
mathiazzul: it would be much easier to get a FFe for the latest 1.118:39
zuli agree18:39
zulill put it on my list for this week18:39
mathiazzul: 1.2 is a major update - it seems too late for karmic18:39
zuli agree18:40
orudieасдф18:41
orudiehi, anyone here familiar with vtiger ?18:41
kaushalhi18:48
kaushalanyone have used autossh ?18:48
kaushalsince its available in ubuntu18:48
orudiehi, anyone here familiar with vtiger ?18:51
ScottKorudie: Asking the same question every 10 minutes is more likely to annoy people than get you help.18:51
orudieScottK-> oh, i thought no one knows the answer and someone else joined who actually does18:53
orudieScottK-> anyway sorry if i made you feel bad18:53
VirtualDisasterorudie: ?18:53
orudieVirtualDisaster-> ?18:53
VirtualDisasterorudie: nvm18:54
kaushal!autossh19:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about autossh19:02
konza_blackxored,  hi19:06
blackxoredkonza_, hi again ask your question here?19:07
blackxoredhello again folks, konza_ is having some little problems when changing postfix's default listening port19:07
VirtualDisasterwhy are you wanting to do that?19:07
konza_blackxored,  i think its not main.cf         its master.cf19:08
blackxoredkonza_, so you splitted I think paste master.cf19:09
blackxoredVirtualDisaster, ISP blocks I think19:09
VirtualDisasterhmm looks like this is going to be fun19:09
VirtualDisasterdpkg-reconfigure postfix19:09
VirtualDisasterthat should allow you to change the listening port iirc (havent used it in awhile)19:10
blackxoredVirtualDisaster, ;)19:10
blackxoredVirtualDisaster, we didn't want to do that19:10
VirtualDisasterthen youre making it harder on yourself19:10
konza_link of paset bin pls19:10
VirtualDisasterany other solution to this problem will involve more work than it is worth19:11
VirtualDisasterunless you want to start learning about various aspects of firewalling today19:11
bensiehi guys, wondering if i can get some insight to a problem i'm having with KVM and vmbuilder on 9.0419:11
VirtualDisasterbensie: ask away,19:12
VirtualDisaster!ask19:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:12
bensiesorry....19:12
konza_!pastebin19:12
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic19:12
blackxoredkonza_, a second am on it again19:13
bensiei'm getting an "invalid compressed format (err=1)" when booting any VMs created with vmbuilder in the past 2 days19:14
konza_VirtualDisaster, Isp is blocking port 25, what to do?19:14
konza_blackxored, k19:15
konza_blackxored, http://paste.ubuntu.com/267444/19:15
VirtualDisasterkonza_: one sec19:15
bensiewe're not using a local mirror -- but i'm wondering if there's any way to use an ISO for the install, then remote apt for packages to ensure each VM is built with a consistent image19:15
VirtualDisasterkonza_: is this for work or for just play?19:16
VirtualDisasteri really dont want to waste time if this is one of those "oh im just playing" scenerios19:16
konza_VirtualDisaster, didnt get u19:16
blackxoredkonza_ in /etc/postfix/master.cf -you right s/smtpd/<your port>19:17
blackxoredand then restart it19:17
VirtualDisasterkonza_: i mean are you using this in production? i dont want to spend a lot of time helping if youre just "testing" ubuntu19:17
blackxoredi dont' think a SIGHUP will suffice19:17
blackxoredkonza, was using exim so hard to tell at first, ;)19:18
blackxoredkonza_, but that may suffice19:18
konza_VirtualDisaster,  I want to make a site similar to gmail, i am behind this for the past 2 days.   it was written on some ubuntu docs that many isp's block port 5 and its suggested to use port 587.19:19
VirtualDisasterreally, mind if i pm you19:20
bensieany KVM experts out there?19:26
VirtualDisasterbensie: just ask and wait19:29
blackxoredport 587 is for secure smtp19:33
blackxoredkonza_, ^19:33
blackxoredkonza_, that was probably the suggestion, and IMHO most ISPs *allow* 2519:33
konza_but this command is not working           'telnet localhost 25'          its needed for checking weather auth smtp and tls are working properly19:36
henkjanin the netherlands lots of ISPs block outgoing port 2519:36
ScottKport 587 is for submission (secure or not).19:41
blackxoredkonza_, if you changed the port then won't work19:41
ScottKIt's a current mail system best practice to use it (not just Ubuntu)19:42
blackxoredScottK, you're right ;)19:42
frojndHello there.19:43
frojndI'm just wondering is there a official keylogger for ubuntu?19:43
frojndFor home use ofcaurse!19:43
blackxoredScottK, and normal mail delivery is still for 25, right?19:43
konza_blackxored, but this command is not working           'telnet localhost 25'          its needed for checking weather auth smtp and tls are working properly19:44
blackxoredfrojnd, in the repos there's lkl, but doesn't buy me at all19:44
blackxoredkonza_, if you changed the port in master.cf won't work then19:44
blackxoredkonza_, in that port19:44
konza_blackxored, how to check, what the currently assigned port is?19:46
blackxorednetstat -tan ;)19:46
blackxoredif you have something listening on ::25 then you didn't change the port19:46
blackxoredif you don't then you have changed that in master.cf as I said, where you should replace smtpd with the port you wanted19:46
Sp0tterWhat would cause a samba shared directory to show up as a printer?  when i run testparam on my config it always shows that share as "printable = yes"  no matter what I set it as19:53
konza_blackxored, can u tell that command fully........         netstat ..........19:54
blackxorednetstat -tan19:54
kamilionWhere can I find the iscsi boot documentation for karmic/jaunty? I have my targets set up, but I just can't seem to get d-i to give me the iscsi options.19:55
konza_blackxored, http://paste.ubuntu.com/267477/19:57
blackxoredkonza_, there it is, so what's your problem20:00
blackxoredit's listening on ::2420:00
blackxoreds/24/2520:00
smosersoren, can you add me to the vmbuilder project? i think i need to be added there in order to change status of a bug (bug 426424)20:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 426424 in vmbuilder "need md5sums created for uec-images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42642420:01
konza_blackxored, my prob is solved... thanks for helping me20:15
blackxoredkonza_, glad to help ;)20:15
VogOK, I was just asked a question I do not know the answer to. Is there a way to migrate a a server from 32 to 64 bit while maintaining packages and settings?20:34
kpettitVog: painfull20:35
VirtualDisasterkonza_: can you hear me in PM?20:35
VogThose were my thoughts.... but I've never tried to do it so I could not answer the question definatively20:35
kpettitDepending on the apps, my experience is it'd be chancy20:36
VirtualDisasterVog: just setup the new server20:36
VirtualDisasterthen migrate when everything is working20:36
VirtualDisasteri dont see a issue20:36
kpettitI'd suggest backing up all your settings and config's and building a new server from scratch20:36
VirtualDisasteri agree w/ kpettit20:36
VirtualDisasterleave the existing one alone until the new one is ready20:37
VirtualDisasterdont do like um *cough* MS admins *cough* and do first then think20:37
VirtualDisasterthink, plan, execute20:37
kpettitif you have everything backup'd up and your brave you could do a new 64bit install on the existing system and not format the drives which would leave alot of the data.  But the results would be unpredictable20:37
VirtualDisasteryeah thats not a good idea in any situation20:38
kpettitIf it was a remote system I wouldn't never chance it.  But if it was a server under my desk and I had the time and option to play aroudn with it, it would be fun to try20:39
VirtualDisasteror just get a diff hdd20:39
kpettitBut on any serious system I would just build a new one from scratch20:39
VirtualDisasterthats what i did when i got tight on hardware20:39
kpettitgood idea.20:39
VirtualDisasterthat way if anything messes up just slap in old one20:40
kpettitexactly.20:40
VirtualDisasternot to mention you get practice in "HotHardDrive Potato"20:41
kpettitMy setup is a couple servers at my house and some remote hosted ones.  I'm very hesitant to do anything on the remote ones20:41
VirtualDisasterkpettit: yeah20:41
kpettitDo you use 32bit or 64bit?20:41
kpettitI gave up on 64bit.  I never use it unless I have a specific app, like a monster database that needs the big memory chunks.  64bit was too much of a hassle for me20:42
VirtualDisaster3220:42
VirtualDisasteryeah 64 seems to much to deal w/20:42
VirtualDisasteri use 32bit w/ server kernel to get more ram20:42
kpettitI don't even consider it for the desktop anymore, to many issues20:42
VirtualDisasteryeah20:42
VirtualDisasterand until its supported better whats the point?20:42
kpettitexactly.  no benifit for me to use 64bit20:43
VogThis si for our mail server. I already have the system imaged and was working on putting the old image on new hardware when someone asked if we could also migrate the system to 64-bit20:43
VirtualDisasterVog: imo i dont see a need, especially if the app isnt written for 64 bit20:44
VogThere are benefits to 64 bit for me considerieng the load the mail server has20:44
VirtualDisasterit will not gain anything20:44
VirtualDisasteri would suggest in optimizing the setup20:44
VirtualDisasterlike doing system profiling20:45
VirtualDisasterthat way you can get the what, why and how20:45
VirtualDisasterto create a solution based on the information you gather in the profiling20:46
VogAll the same the I have my answer, a migration to 64 bit is best accomplished by a fresh install20:47
kpettityes, it's the safest way.20:48
VogIN this case safe is relative...20:48
kpettit:)20:48
VogThe main server is staying as is while the new one is built20:48
kpettitAh that should work well for you the.  Give you a chance to test things out and migrate apps one at a time20:49
VogI have new server hardware and an external image of the drive20:49
iivehello,  if I know the exact name of library/module how can i find the name of the package containing it. Google gives me far too many results without the info i need.20:49
konza_nope20:49
konza_VirtualDisaster, nope20:50
kamilionWhere can I find the iscsi boot documentation for karmic/jaunty? I've gone through a bunch of docs trying to figure it out, but debian-installer never seems to load the partman iscsi module, even if I pass iscsi=true on the kernel command line.20:50
VirtualDisasterkonza_: odd20:50
VirtualDisasterkonza_: tell ya what just drop me a line on my website20:50
VirtualDisasteruse the contact form, i would like to follow up w/ you on a few items20:50
konza_VirtualDisaster, can u here me inn pm20:53
VirtualDisasterkonza_: yes sir20:54
iivekamilion: i think it is provided as module.I've seen it in the additional module selections when choosing disks20:59
kamilionI get that module loader, when there's no internal drive21:15
kamilionhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-iscsi/+bug/23664021:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 236640 in open-iscsi "iSCSI install fails under hardy" [High,Fix released]21:16
kamilionThe last message there says at least one disk needs to be detected for partman to load the modules. I've tried with and without disks, but nothing I do seems to enable iscsi.21:16
VirtualDisasterkamilion: iirc youll have to create some sripts to make it work properly21:17
VirtualDisasteri looked into it once but couldnt get it to work so i was like screw it at this point21:17
kamilionWhere might I find some help or documentation on how to do that?21:17
kamilionYeah, I just noticed the A4/A5 release notes saying iscsi boot should work now.21:17
kamilionBut I can't find any docs or blogs, I've been messing with it with a couple days now.21:18
iivekamilion: most probably, suspend the automatic installation open shell and make the connection manually.21:18
kamilionright, there was a mention in that bug thread about "apt-setup/proposed=true", but I couldn't figure out the meaning of it21:19
VirtualDisasterkamilion: you will have to create a few custom rc scripts, i have no really useful links for this matter unfortunately21:21
statikhi kirkland :)21:22
kamilionallrighty. I'll keep trying. Guess I'll give a NFSRoot install a shot, at least that's documented.21:22
VirtualDisasterkamilion: good luck and if you have success i would love to know what you did21:24
VirtualDisastermaybe then i can document it !21:24
* kamilion nods21:25
kamilionI'll try bugging the devs working on it. I'd be happy to submit some docs as well21:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #423497 in vm-builder "Sudoers file is misconfigured in AMI ami-5059be39" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42349721:26
kamilionI'm trying to move from a TFTP-boot to HTTP-boot with gpxe. Hopefully I should end up with a short howto on http-boot+iscsi-root, cause it's only the iscsi-root bits giving me problems so far.21:29
uvirtbotNew bug: #378831 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "MySQL 5.1 support for innodb plugin broken" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37883121:32
frojndIf application is made for 32bit x86 architechture. Is there a way to install it on 64bit? http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/21:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #381202 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.31-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38120221:37
kamilionfrojnd: yeah, apt-get install ia32-libs && dpkg --force-architecture -i your-i386.deb21:38
Vogfrojnd: you could use the linux32 command  for instance linux32 uname - a21:38
kamilioniirc there's also 'ia32-apt-get'21:38
Vogkamilion: I htink you would need to run getlibs after that... or would you?21:40
frojndkamilion: what is your-i386.deb?21:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #394515 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql-server-5.1 does not include ndb (mysql-cluster)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39451521:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #407533 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.31-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus post-installation script a retourn? une erreur de sortie d'?tat 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40753321:41
Voghe was making an example of the package you would want to install21:41
Vogwhere "youri386.deb is the application you are trying to install21:42
frojndVog: what if application is here http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/21:43
Vogfrojnd: I'm not touching that if you want to run a key logger figure it out yourself21:43
frojndVog: kamilion if application would be in the repos than the command would be: apt-get install ia32-libs && dpkg --force-architecture -i lkl ?21:44
frojndit's not for me21:44
frojndfunny but a some girl asked me if I know of any keylogger. She has some problems with her collage roomates... didn't ask why I just suggest her to install lkl but I didn't know that she has problems installing it since she has 64bit21:45
frojndVog: if you feel any better you can help me install any other application for 64bit21:46
VogKnowing that that knowlede will be used to install a keylogger in the end no.21:46
uvirtbotNew bug: #397832 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "Failure to install" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39783221:46
frojndfine.21:47
Vogfrojnd: I would just tell the girl to make up a better password or somehting or not let more than one person on her machine.21:47
frojndVog: I know you would.21:49
frojndVog: but if you woud she would say ubuntu sux if I can't install software :)21:49
Vog..... Why can't she install software?21:50
VogIt's not like keyloggers are a heavily used category of legitimately used software.21:51
frojndlack of knowladge... me myself have no ideas how to install any 32bit software on 64bit and I'm using 4 years linux now..21:52
VogBesides this is the unbuntuserver channel if you want support on unbuntu desktop apps try #ubuntu21:52
frojndI just didn't had to till now...21:52
frojndVog: I already jumped in :)21:52
Vogcool21:52
uvirtbotNew bug: #422268 in qemu-kvm (main) "eliminate bochsbios build-dep from qemu-kvm" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42226821:56
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uvirtbotNew bug: #361754 in qemu "guest needs to boot with clock=acpi_pm (older AMD freq scaling issues)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36175422:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #413792 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql-server is upgraded when using a mysql cluster" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41379222:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #376387 in kvm (universe) "Inconsistent location of kvm-ifup, missing kvm-ifdown" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37638722:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #391121 in kvm (universe) "init script should declare dependency on mountkernfs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39112122:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #410226 in libvirt (main) "Please add user to libvirtd" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41022622:22
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uvirtbotNew bug: #426514 in eucalyptus (main) "eucalyptus-cc package (1.6~bzr645-0ubuntu2) code generated from older wsdl, causing runInstances and describeInstances to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42651422:50
bensiei'm trying to resize a VM with kpartx and resize2fs, but resize2fs is saying "The filesystem is already xxxxx blocks long.  Nothing to do!"23:23
bensieAnyone know how to properly resize a VM (inside an LVM)?23:23
uvirtbotNew bug: #413789 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql-server has been kept back with dist-upgrading" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41378923:47

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