[00:25] hey all [00:25] i moved my virtual server over between hosts, and used the same vbox settings and all, i have vboxnetflt and vboxdrv modules loaded [00:26] but inside my 9.04 guest, i can't seem to bring up eth1, which is the interface configured in my /etc/network/interfaces [00:26] billybigrigger@sally:~$ sudo ifup -a [00:26] SIOCSIFADDR: No such device [00:27] eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No Such device [00:27] i can see it's listed in lspci [00:29] anyone have any suggestions i could try? [00:32] New bug: #425996 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.5.5-1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/425996 [00:36] anyone around? [00:37] can someone point me towards horde webmail installation guide? [00:40] when I installed the server I told it not to automagically do security updates [00:40] how do I change that? [00:58] is it possible to install ubuntu server, then save all my options (disk config, timezone, dhcp, etc) into a file [00:58] then burn that file back into a CD or a USB or something [00:58] I know it's called pre-seeding but I want to know how to save it and then use that saved file [01:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html has all the details on preseeding if that is what you want to do. [01:26] New bug: #420805 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "apport package hook only run for mysql-server-5.1" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420805 [01:41] New bug: #425923 in qemu (universe) "qemu segfaults instantly (dup-of: 422295)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/425923 === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [02:11] I'm thinking of suggesting the owners of the MX servers I exchange the majority of e-mail traffic to stabilish a compresses gzip/lzo VPN with my servers to compress all e-mail traffic. If you guys receive this request, would you accept? Would you be worried about something? [02:19] KurtKraut: Please don't crosspost... are you running Debian, or Ubuntu, on your server? Use the appropriate channel. [02:20] jmarsden, I have both Debian servers and Ubuntu servers. This is not a distro-specific question. I'm trying to talk to many people as possible. [02:24] KurtKraut: Unless you were sending me money I'd explain that SMTP works via RFC compliant protocol and tell you to pound sand. [02:24] ScottK, but don't you belive this cooperative VPN would save bandwith for both sides, for me and you? [02:25] Both parts take benefit of the resource savings [02:25] KurtKraut: I believe it's extraordinarily unlikely to be worth the trouble. Per recipient SMTP is just way to painful unless it cannot possibly be avoided. [02:26] ScottK, thats why I'm thing to offer this to the MX servers I exchange the majority of my traffic. [02:26] To be worthy [02:27] KurtKraut: Are you the majority of their traffic? [02:28] ScottK, no, but there is a chance I am. In that case, both parts would be interest in saving bandwith. [02:29] Personally, I'm more time constrained than I am bandwidth constrained so I'd still say no even then unless (maybe) it was apt-get install something from Main was all that was needed. [02:29] compressed VPN tunnels won't help on already-compressed data. so if a large % of the email traffic is compressed attachments, there will be no gain and possibly a penalty. [02:34] KurtKraut: VPNs are a huge pain in the ass to maintain [02:34] bandwidth is incredibly cheap [02:34] I would never agree to such a suggestion [02:34] giovani, not worldwide. Outside US and Europe, processors and much cheaper than bandwith [02:35] Well PhotoJim's point is also valid. It may not even help. [02:35] then surely you'll get a response [02:35] there's no need to ask here, since we're not the ones you want to comply [02:36] right, in addition to the issue of whether someone will listen to you is whether or not it's even a valid idea [02:36] there's a large amount of overhead with most VPNs [02:36] I doubt you'd see any reduction in traffic, if anything, an increase, not because of compression issues, but because VPN protocols add a good amount of overhead [02:36] PhotoJim, OpenVPN compression tests the stream of data from time to time. If the stream is already compressed and/or it is not worthy to compress it again, it will stop compression to that stream and will check later if compression would be better. [02:37] KurtKraut: It really smells of adding a lot of complexity and not worth the trouble. [02:37] giovani, all the points you're making here are helping me to provide a better text to make the offer, already covering the points you guys are making here. [02:38] KurtKraut: well the points I (and we) are making are meant to show you that it's not a good idea at all, not how to craft an email to them [02:44] KurtKraut: oh, that's good to know. [02:45] And many HTTP traffic is compressed. [02:46] KurtKraut: yes, the content itself, inside of the protocol, not encapsulating it in a VPN tunnel which happens to be compressed [02:46] there's a huge difference [02:47] curl --head --compress --silent www.lighttpd.net | fgrep gzip [02:47] And, as e-mail, HTTP traffic has a lot of images, binaries etc. [02:47] I'm not sure what you're trying to demonstrate with that [02:48] giovani, I'm trying to demonstrate that HTTP is widely used with gzip compression, I think e-mail traffic could have the same benefit. [02:48] KurtKraut: You asked for an opinion. You got several. If you think it's a great idea, get an RFC published. [02:49] KurtKraut: you're sorely mistaken if you're comparing content compression in HTTP to encapsulating SMTP traffic in a VPN tunnel which happens to be compressed [02:50] this is an issue that's been discussed before: http://www.faerber.muc.de/temp/20020404-gzip-compression-in-nntp-smtp-pop3-imap.html [02:50] try using a real, planned method [02:50] and not an ugly hack [02:50] giovani, thanks for the link [02:52] google provided plenty [03:35] does anybody here have an epson printer/scanner? [04:33] Package libltdl3 is not installed <---- but libltdl7 is installed already [04:34] libltdl3 <--- how do i install that ? [04:41] quizme: libtdl7 provides libtld3, so it should be fine. [04:42] scottk: http://pastie.org/609151 [04:42] scottk: the package won't install [04:43] scottk: can i install this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libltdl3 [04:43] Possbily. [04:44] It looks like the problem is it's a versioned depends and versioned provides aren't supported. Where did you get the package? [04:46] scottk: http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL2.do [04:46] from there [04:48] You can try to install libtdl3 from Hardy, but it probably conflicts with libtdl7. If you get any errors, don't force it, that would be bad. [04:49] oh [04:49] the iscan one works [04:49] i just did that one [04:49] i just installed that one [04:51] scottk: should i use this one? Source file (for 64bit architecture, Fedora 11 or later) ? [04:51] No. [04:51] Personally, unless I really needed this package, I would pass. [04:52] scottk: it's for my printer.. [04:52] You might ask them to rebuild it against libtdl7 (or do it yourself if source is available) [04:52] source is there [04:54] scottk: how do i build it using libtdl7 ? [04:54] Does the source include a Debian style source package? [04:55] scottk there is a debian folder in there [04:55] What is the libtdl related package listed in Build-Depends in debian/control? [04:56] scottk http://pastie.org/609204 [04:58] quizme: OK, so it's getting pulled in indirectly. [04:58] scottk: what should i do ? [04:58] quizme: You likely can download that and then rebuild it and get an installable .deb. [04:58] It's midnight here, so I need to get to bed. [04:59] There's stuff on the Ubuntu wiki about rebuilding packages. [04:59] scottk: ok thanks. so i need to rebuild libtdl3 ? [04:59] quizme: No, your package that you want. [05:00] you mean rebuild the .deb packgage from the source files ? [05:00] If you build it on the target platform it'll want libtdl7 as you have [05:00] Yes [05:00] oh [05:00] ok [05:01] scottk can u help me build the package ? [05:01] i never built one before [05:01] Possibly tomorrow [05:01] Others can probably help too [05:02] ok [05:02] thnx [05:02] good night [05:02] you're on the east coast / [05:02] Yep. Good night. [05:09] scottk: Type of package: single binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch or cdbs? [05:09] [s/m/l/k/n/b] [05:10] quizme: You don't need to create a debian package, just compile one. The question tells me you are following a recipe for creating one. [05:10] scottk: what's the command ? [05:10] debuild -us -uc [05:11] so i just type that in the source folder ? [05:13] Yep. It should give you useful errors if there are problems. [05:15] scottk: http://pastie.org/609214 [05:17] Unmet build dependencies: libcups2-dev | libcupsys2-dev libcupsimage2-dev libgtk2.0-dev libjpeg62-dev [05:17] shoudl i do sudo apt-get install on all of those packages ? [05:19] it's compiling like crazy now... [05:21] scottk: does this mean it worked ? http://pastie.org/609222 [05:21] http://pastie.org/609222 <--- did that compile the debian package ? [05:21] New bug: #330586 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql-dfsg subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330586 [05:36] New bug: #391508 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocesso post-installation script retornou erro do status de sa?da 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391508 [05:36] New bug: #398000 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 [modified: usr/share/mysql/sql-bench/limits/mysql-4.0.cfg] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398000 [05:38] quizme: Yes, looks like it built, but you have a pile of lintian warnings and one lintian error in that package which need fixing. [05:43] quizme: Probably [05:44] jmarsden: It's for his own use, so none of those are very important. [05:47] i got this: http://pastebin.com/m7fb38df3 in one of my server's logwatch email, whats this, is this critical? [05:51] looking [05:52] hmm [05:53] it seems to be a kernel component somehow related to hardware times [05:53] your cmos battery may be dieing [05:53] though that is a complete guess [05:53] the other alternative is reseting your bios [05:56] New bug: #394360 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "chown: cannot access `/var/run/mysqld': No such file or directory ERROR: 1146 Table 'mysql.user' doesn't exist 090701 18:45:55 [ERROR] Aborting 090701 18:45:55 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete * Reloading AppArmor profiles ... [ OK ] * Starting MySQL database server mysqld [06:03] jmarsden: do you mena this one? E: pipslite: debian-changelog-file-missing [06:03] quizme: Yes... but as ScottK says, if this is just for your own use, the warnings and errors are safe to ignore. [06:04] jmarsden oh ok. great! [06:04] i wish i could help all those poor folks who have to go through this. [06:05] is it possible to make a *.deb file [06:05] poningru, thanks [06:05] then i can send it to launchpad or avasys.jp [06:05] or should i not mess with it ? [06:07] New bug: #399440 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.51a-24 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399440 [06:07] New bug: #407845 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: ?????????? post-installation script ????????? ??? ?????? 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407845 [06:07] New bug: #410635 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "impossible to properly install MySQL" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410635 [06:07] New bug: #410974 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "I forget the bug,but I can't install the mysql-server on my ubuntu PC." [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410974 [06:33] hi there, I need that everybody from anydirectory can access to some library. Somebody know how i can do that? [06:35] chmod -R 755 ? [06:52] i mean, i need execute a program (which any user account) and this program call some library that is in somewhere. How I can set that they can look for the libray in some specific folder? [07:29] alo [07:32] Just put the library in the usual place (under /usr/lib/ ) and all programs will look for it there and dynamically link to it as needed? Is that what you mean? You are not being all that clear... [07:38] * andol would rather use /usr/local/lib for that purpose. Putting things under /usr/lib could theoreticly cause a collison with the package manager. [07:39] (In other words, for your own stuff, use /usr/local) === Barre_ is now known as Barre [07:45] i suppose, i would like that any user account can execute a program and this program can route to the library [07:45] route to? How do you route to a library? What library are we talking about here? Can you give us a specific example? [07:48] i mean i am using a program and this program need a library ...i need to set if anything from anywhere and which any account that that call this library...the system can know ehre go for this library [07:49] The library should be installed into one of the standard places for libraries. /usr/local/lib should work fine, as andol suggested earlier. Did you try that yet? === Ng_ is now known as Ng [09:38] ping soren [10:09] the-dude: Yes? [10:09] are you working on cobbler on ubuntu? [10:09] No. [10:10] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CobblerSpec ? [10:10] or is that just a wanted feature? [10:15] the-dude: Wanted feature. I've never managed to find the time to work much on it. [10:15] so it is still open to get working on it? :) [10:16] im pretty far with it [10:16] Oh, rocking. I'd love to review it. [10:17] will you be able to sponser me? [10:18] do I need to report it anywere that im working on it ? [10:29] alexm: I didn't succed with sympa [10:30] maybe I'll give it another try [10:30] was very interesting though, because it had LDAP functionality [10:31] acalvo: what was the problem? [10:32] the installation wasn't so easy [10:32] at least, I didn't find it so easy [10:32] the debian installer mixed up some things [10:33] although I setted up another mysql server, it was pointing to localhost [10:33] the DB tables weren't created [10:33] and when I finally fixed up everything [10:33] fcgi wasn't working (or not linked) [10:34] the apache configuration was not deployed [10:36] acalvo: too bad, maybe the package needs a bit of love ;) [10:37] question: does .htacces affect php code executed on page [10:38] it may === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [10:48] the-dude: Yes, I can sponsor it when we get that far. [10:49] soren: thats nice thanks, will keep you informed :) === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [10:52] * soren lunches [11:03] if kvm falls back to qemu, does it use plain qemu or kqemu? [11:26] New bug: #426197 in eucalyptus (main) "Walrus cannot be registered using the Web UI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426197 [11:50] acalvo: did you try sympa on karmic or you depend on an older release? [12:07] highvoltage: Which version of Ubuntu? [12:10] alexm: root@venus:~# cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l [12:11] soren: 9.04 [12:11] highvoltage: plain qemu [12:11] soren: I remember that KVM just used to refuse running on this laptop so I was pleasantly surprised when it provided at least some fallback today :) [12:12] highvoltage: Yeah, I think that changed in Intrepid. === Belloto_ is now known as S === S is now known as Ssddas [12:12] soren: ah nice, it makes it possible to test some things on some none-vt hardware that can move to better hardware later [12:13] soren: is there a ncie way to make it use kqemu yet or should I do a bit of hackery? [12:13] highvoltage: You're going to have to do that yourself, I'm afraid. [12:14] soren: ok, thanks for the feedback! [12:14] highvoltage: np [12:27] Hi there [12:28] I have a problem with imap-ssl on ubuntu ... in log i got this "Maximum connection limit reached for ... IP [12:28] does anyone knows how to fix this? [12:29] join #ubuntu [12:30] al_paun: using dovecot? [12:30] i think it's cyrus [12:30] cyrus yes not dovecot [12:32] al_paun: ah, sorry, I know about dovecot mail_max_userip_connections, cyrus must have something similar [12:34] i have MAXPERIP in imap-ssl config file [12:34] what should i set to this variable (less i mean 10 or high number of connections 64)? [12:34] it seems that some connections does not close (stay on CLOSE_WAIT) but they don't close. [12:36] sometimes i got this error Unexpected SSL connection shutdown [12:37] how can I debug the courier-imap-ssl? [12:40] morning [12:58] anyone have a centos 5.0 dvd (i386 or x86_64, i need both). I'm downloading them from bittorrent, but thats not going so quickly... been going for over 24 hours and only 15% on one of them. (htere is only 1 peer) [13:02] smoser: ? [13:06] smoser: well, maybe you should try downloading them from a mirror? or run ubuntu instead, which is much more awesome than centos. [13:06] smoser: 1) Wouldn't #centos be a much better question for that question? :) 2) Tried downloading directly (http/ftp) from a nearby mirror? [13:11] 5.0 dvds are not available on any mirrors (5.3 is current). [13:11] New bug: #426245 in openssh (main) "german only: OpenSSH gibt Angreifern zu viele Informationen preis" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426245 [13:11] probably #centos would be better, agreed. i'm in need of them for ubuntu related work. [13:12] zul_, ^ [13:14] hi smoser [13:14] smoser, i386 or amd64? [13:14] well it doesnt really matter: http://vault.centos.org/5.0/isos/ === zul_ is now known as zul [13:15] both, ideally. the i386 is coming much faster (~ 20k) [13:15] zul, there are no dvds there. only the torrents. [13:15] which are horrid slow [13:15] yeah but there is six isos [13:18] 6 isos. yuck. :) ideally i can do a unattended vm install that takes less than a week [14:55] how to run a command after boot (not after login) i want to start hybserv after bootup because i alway need to start it by hand [15:10] Claw6, you need to create /etc/rcX.d entries [15:11] where X is thje runlevel you want your thing to execute [15:12] i got 2 problem I hope you can help me with [15:12] soren, the reason i was moaning about bittorrent downloads is that the images (centos 5.0) i need have 2 peers, i'm getting ~ 10k right now. [15:12] for a dvd image... only 11 more days :) [15:12] 1)i got ldap user auth working but i cannot change passwords. whenever i do passwd i am askjed for ldap password which should not happen and no poassword works [15:13] i think something fishy is maybe going on with PAM? [15:13] smoser: :( === scfh_ is now known as scfh [15:15] 2)i am having still some local net DNS issues. the nodes can resolve the DNS server machine but not each other. can some1 help me out? i wrote the zzone file to the best of my knowledge and the conf file for bind [15:22] Good morning. Any good ideas on setting up QOS? [15:23] I'm running alot of services on a remote box, Asterisk being one of them. Sometimes I get lag becuase the services compete for bandwidth so I'd like a easy way to make "SIP" the priority. Any ideas? [15:26] yeah, have the router/switch provide QoS [15:27] It's a hosted box, so I don't have that option. So I take it there isn't a easy way to do QOS at PBX level? [15:28] Hm. What is the resonable way of specifying interfaces these days, when the kernel keeps renumbering for me? [15:30] manjo: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules [15:30] er.. [15:30] maswan: ^^ [15:31] mathiaz: hi [15:31] ivoks: hi! how are you doing? [15:31] mathiaz: you'd be jelaous if i would tell you :) [15:32] ivoks: hm - I getting ready! shoot! [15:32] mathiaz: i'm sea kayaking [15:32] ivoks: hm - like right now now? [15:32] mathiaz: but, i'd like to ask you something [15:32] no, right now i'm waiting for the meeting :D [15:33] ivoks: ah, thanks. last time I had reson to fiddle with that, was in the good old days of /etc/iftab [15:33] mathiaz: anyway, i'd like to sync some packages from debian [15:34] mathiaz: all are in main, so i'd need someone to push the magic button [15:34] kpettit, i think you got l7 filters [15:34] mathiaz: i'll report bugs, but i need someone who understands what to do [15:34] kpettit, i never set it up myself [15:34] kpettit, easiest is to get a separate box and install entangle [15:34] or whatever routing distro [15:34] has evrything out of the box [15:34] mathiaz: if i file bugs against openais, corosync and rhcs, it's possible that someone would sync rhcs before other two [15:35] ivoks: right. Reporting bugs is the first step, then subscribe -main-sponsors [15:35] kpettit, for me at home a tomato flashed router works miracles [15:35] ivoks: ok - just write this down in the bugs [15:35] ivoks: which one should be synced first [15:35] and if i file for corosync and wait for it, then wait for openais and then for rhcs, a week will pass :) [15:35] ok [15:35] ivoks: and the Archive Admins will do the right thing [15:35] anybody has to nerves to help me with my dns issues? [15:35] ivoks: they're intelligent people - they'll figure it out if it's written in a bug [15:36] :) [15:37] clusty: Its a hosted box and I only have the one hosted box. [15:37] try l7 [15:37] think some iptables magic is also needed [15:38] i am still scared of iptables :D [15:38] kpettit, might try also TCP vegas :D [15:38] kpettit, very very new algo [15:39] dunno how efficient though [15:39] clusty: I'm using arnos iptable scripts right now, but I don't have any QOS type of options. [15:39] I'll look into those other ones you suggested though. Thanks [15:42] kpettit: QoS in iptables is complex, and may not perform the way you want depending on how bandiwdth is limited [15:43] giovani: that's what I'm worried about. Fun fun fun [15:46] oh, fun, fun. latest karmic kernel or grub seems not to boot. [15:47] maswan: gotta be more specific than that [15:50] giovani: seems to be hitting #424503 now that I was more specific [15:51] New bug: #426309 in eucalyptus (main) "package eucalyptus-nc 1.6~bzr588-0ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: podproces nový pre-removal skript vrátil chybový status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426309 [15:53] Going to try the workarond mentioned in the bug before I rant more (or click "me too" :) ) [15:54] ivoks: Have you used glusterfs at all? [15:57] soren: no [15:57] soren: but i plan some testing [15:57] ivoks: Ok. [15:57] ivoks: I've played a bit around with it. I really like it. [15:58] i tried it while it was a part of gluster (whole cluster) [15:58] but 'tried' like couple of seconds [15:59] ivoks: drbd always gave me this unpleasant feeling.. If something went wrong, all my data would be eaten. With something like gluster, I just feel safer. [15:59] glusterfs, I mean. [15:59] soren: i know the feeling [15:59] ivoks: I'm not familiar with gluster (apart from glusterfs). What does it do? [16:00] soren: hopefully w/ the arrival btrfs we can feel safer [16:00] it was a livecd cluster system [16:00] ivoks: it is a cluster filesystem? [16:00] looks like glusterfs is the only thing left from it [16:00] oic nvm [16:01] at that time, there was no gluster inc. :) [16:01] what is 'o/' ? [16:01] smoser: It's a head and a hand. It's me, waving. [16:01] wave [16:01] ah [16:02] i thought the bot might be registering attendance based on that [16:02] good idea :D [16:16] New bug: #386463 in vm-builder (universe) "vm-builder images and configuration files should not be world readable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386463 [16:19] how/where does mootbot publish meeting notes ? [16:22] okay again.... irc crashed.... i want to lunch "hybserv" after boot without login. at the moment i have to do it by hand dont want so [16:22] how can i do that? === monteith is now known as monteith_afk [16:32] Claw6_: put a script in the proper runlevel directory [16:33] soren, ttx, zul ? how/where does mootbot publish meeting notes ? [16:33] clusty said i need to edit /etc/rcX.d [16:33] is that file loaded after every boot? [16:33] smoser: from this meeting or an earlier one? [16:34] smoser: umm...i think its on the web someware [16:34] Claw6_: it's not a file, those are directories [16:34] you need to place a startup script, and name it properly in the right folder [16:36] smoser: you could always look at irclogs.ubuntu.com http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/08/%23ubuntu-meeting.html [16:37] what folder shall i use? rcS.d? [16:37] i just thought, since he's marking certian things, that those things would be highlighted somewhere ([action] and the like) [16:38] smoser: yeah but im not sure where it is off the top of my head [16:38] "configure software raid" is not showing! [16:39] but "Activate Serial ATA RAID devices?" is... [16:39] well there is ja start script of hybserv but it doesn´t work [16:43] kirkland: ping why does bochbios needs to be a build dependency for qemu-kvm it doesnt use it anywhere by the looks of it [16:43] hi, is someone there? [16:44] some Dr. House for a Ubuntu Server instalation diagnosis? [16:46] oh well... [16:47] coma_: "activate serial ATA RAID devices"... along with no "configure software raid" hints you have some hardware raid solution on your motherboard [16:57] hi! [16:57] yes, the mb has a raid hardware enabled [16:57] but [16:58] if I use this it'll install everything without any problems... until I retart it... [16:58] the raid is not recognized [17:00] the mb is not booting with the raid [17:00] mb don't have hardware raid [17:00] the thing you have is called fakeraid [17:03] kirkland_: ping why does bochbios needs to be a build dependency for qemu-kvm it doesnt use it anywhere by the looks of it === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl [17:39] I goto sound preferances: error message: gconfaudiosink profile=music: Failed to connect: Connection refused [17:39] this is in my thin client [17:40] It works for a bit/until i play about 6 songs then stops working [17:40] I get that error above [17:40] Daviey: iirk... we lost all translations of the tips! :( [17:43] nijaba: yes, they are "fuzzy" translations.. Needing Review [17:44] they are still there, but because of the pot string change, they are now fuzzy [17:44] ah, ok... so we did not lose them. good.. I was scared for a bit === monteith_afk is now known as monteith [17:46] New bug: #225260 in kvm (universe) "control file description miss-leading" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/225260 [17:46] New bug: #243393 in linux (universe) "dmesg is flooded with warnings in kvm/mmu.c" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243393 [17:48] nijaba: If they do get lost, they are in in bzr anyway. [17:49] but they are actually in the .po files, just "need review" [17:49] Daviey: well, on the translation interface in lp, it is as if there was nothing there at the moment [17:50] Daviey: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-server-tips/trunk/+pots/ubuntu-server-tips/fr/+translate [17:50] nijaba, yeah hardly ideal - but if you check the "import queue" [17:51] is there someplace other than cdimage.ubuntu.com from where I can get the karmic server iso? [17:51] cdimage is too slow from here [17:51] it's like 12h to download the image [17:53] http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/ [17:53] if you're lucky [17:53] thanks [17:53] ahasenack: cdimage.ubuntu.com AFAIK is the only place with the daily images. [17:53] it has alpha-5 [17:53] Daviey: I'm fine with alpha-5, I can update from there [17:53] but not dailies [17:54] basically I mirror the "releases" subdir [17:54] cool, that's better [17:54] 200kb/s [17:54] maswan: thanks! === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [18:36] mathiaz: what do you think of getting a FFE for dovecot karmic is still at 1.1.11 [18:36] zul: for what version of dovecot? [18:36] zul: 1.1 or 1.2? [18:37] 1.2 [18:37] zul: I think it's too late [18:37] zul: why should we upgrade to 1.2? [18:38] k what about 1.1.12 then since there are some bugfixes in launchpad that it solves [18:38] zul: the latest version of dovecot 1.1 in unstable was 1.1.16 [18:38] zul: it seems that updating to the latest version of the 1.1 serie makes sense [18:39] that works as well but 1.2.4 is in unstable [18:39] sure [18:39] zul: it seems that upstream was mainly fixing bugs on 1.1 [18:39] zul: it would be much easier to get a FFe for the latest 1.1 [18:39] i agree [18:39] ill put it on my list for this week [18:39] zul: 1.2 is a major update - it seems too late for karmic [18:40] i agree [18:41] асдф [18:41] hi, anyone here familiar with vtiger ? [18:48] hi [18:48] anyone have used autossh ? [18:48] since its available in ubuntu [18:51] hi, anyone here familiar with vtiger ? [18:51] orudie: Asking the same question every 10 minutes is more likely to annoy people than get you help. [18:53] ScottK-> oh, i thought no one knows the answer and someone else joined who actually does [18:53] ScottK-> anyway sorry if i made you feel bad [18:53] orudie: ? [18:53] VirtualDisaster-> ? [18:54] orudie: nvm [19:02] !autossh [19:02] Sorry, I don't know anything about autossh [19:06] blackxored, hi [19:07] konza_, hi again ask your question here? [19:07] hello again folks, konza_ is having some little problems when changing postfix's default listening port [19:07] why are you wanting to do that? [19:08] blackxored, i think its not main.cf its master.cf [19:09] konza_, so you splitted I think paste master.cf [19:09] VirtualDisaster, ISP blocks I think [19:09] hmm looks like this is going to be fun [19:09] dpkg-reconfigure postfix [19:10] that should allow you to change the listening port iirc (havent used it in awhile) [19:10] VirtualDisaster, ;) [19:10] VirtualDisaster, we didn't want to do that [19:10] then youre making it harder on yourself [19:10] link of paset bin pls [19:11] any other solution to this problem will involve more work than it is worth [19:11] unless you want to start learning about various aspects of firewalling today [19:11] hi guys, wondering if i can get some insight to a problem i'm having with KVM and vmbuilder on 9.04 [19:12] bensie: ask away, [19:12] !ask [19:12] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [19:12] sorry.... [19:12] !pastebin [19:12] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [19:13] konza_, a second am on it again [19:14] i'm getting an "invalid compressed format (err=1)" when booting any VMs created with vmbuilder in the past 2 days [19:14] VirtualDisaster, Isp is blocking port 25, what to do? [19:15] blackxored, k [19:15] blackxored, http://paste.ubuntu.com/267444/ [19:15] konza_: one sec [19:15] we're not using a local mirror -- but i'm wondering if there's any way to use an ISO for the install, then remote apt for packages to ensure each VM is built with a consistent image [19:16] konza_: is this for work or for just play? [19:16] i really dont want to waste time if this is one of those "oh im just playing" scenerios [19:16] VirtualDisaster, didnt get u [19:17] konza_ in /etc/postfix/master.cf -you right s/smtpd/ [19:17] and then restart it [19:17] konza_: i mean are you using this in production? i dont want to spend a lot of time helping if youre just "testing" ubuntu [19:17] i dont' think a SIGHUP will suffice [19:18] konza, was using exim so hard to tell at first, ;) [19:18] konza_, but that may suffice [19:19] VirtualDisaster, I want to make a site similar to gmail, i am behind this for the past 2 days. it was written on some ubuntu docs that many isp's block port 5 and its suggested to use port 587. [19:20] really, mind if i pm you [19:26] any KVM experts out there? [19:29] bensie: just ask and wait [19:33] port 587 is for secure smtp [19:33] konza_, ^ [19:33] konza_, that was probably the suggestion, and IMHO most ISPs *allow* 25 [19:36] but this command is not working 'telnet localhost 25' its needed for checking weather auth smtp and tls are working properly [19:36] in the netherlands lots of ISPs block outgoing port 25 [19:41] port 587 is for submission (secure or not). [19:41] konza_, if you changed the port then won't work [19:42] It's a current mail system best practice to use it (not just Ubuntu) [19:42] ScottK, you're right ;) [19:43] Hello there. [19:43] I'm just wondering is there a official keylogger for ubuntu? [19:43] For home use ofcaurse! [19:43] ScottK, and normal mail delivery is still for 25, right? [19:44] blackxored, but this command is not working 'telnet localhost 25' its needed for checking weather auth smtp and tls are working properly [19:44] frojnd, in the repos there's lkl, but doesn't buy me at all [19:44] konza_, if you changed the port in master.cf won't work then [19:44] konza_, in that port [19:46] blackxored, how to check, what the currently assigned port is? [19:46] netstat -tan ;) [19:46] if you have something listening on ::25 then you didn't change the port [19:46] if you don't then you have changed that in master.cf as I said, where you should replace smtpd with the port you wanted [19:53] What would cause a samba shared directory to show up as a printer? when i run testparam on my config it always shows that share as "printable = yes" no matter what I set it as [19:54] blackxored, can u tell that command fully........ netstat .......... [19:54] netstat -tan [19:55] Where can I find the iscsi boot documentation for karmic/jaunty? I have my targets set up, but I just can't seem to get d-i to give me the iscsi options. [19:57] blackxored, http://paste.ubuntu.com/267477/ [20:00] konza_, there it is, so what's your problem [20:00] it's listening on ::24 [20:00] s/24/25 [20:01] soren, can you add me to the vmbuilder project? i think i need to be added there in order to change status of a bug (bug 426424) [20:01] Launchpad bug 426424 in vmbuilder "need md5sums created for uec-images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426424 [20:15] blackxored, my prob is solved... thanks for helping me [20:15] konza_, glad to help ;) [20:34] OK, I was just asked a question I do not know the answer to. Is there a way to migrate a a server from 32 to 64 bit while maintaining packages and settings? [20:35] Vog: painfull [20:35] konza_: can you hear me in PM? [20:35] Those were my thoughts.... but I've never tried to do it so I could not answer the question definatively [20:36] Depending on the apps, my experience is it'd be chancy [20:36] Vog: just setup the new server [20:36] then migrate when everything is working [20:36] i dont see a issue [20:36] I'd suggest backing up all your settings and config's and building a new server from scratch [20:36] i agree w/ kpettit [20:37] leave the existing one alone until the new one is ready [20:37] dont do like um *cough* MS admins *cough* and do first then think [20:37] think, plan, execute [20:37] if you have everything backup'd up and your brave you could do a new 64bit install on the existing system and not format the drives which would leave alot of the data. But the results would be unpredictable [20:38] yeah thats not a good idea in any situation [20:39] If it was a remote system I wouldn't never chance it. But if it was a server under my desk and I had the time and option to play aroudn with it, it would be fun to try [20:39] or just get a diff hdd [20:39] But on any serious system I would just build a new one from scratch [20:39] thats what i did when i got tight on hardware [20:39] good idea. [20:40] that way if anything messes up just slap in old one [20:40] exactly. [20:41] not to mention you get practice in "HotHardDrive Potato" [20:41] My setup is a couple servers at my house and some remote hosted ones. I'm very hesitant to do anything on the remote ones [20:41] kpettit: yeah [20:41] Do you use 32bit or 64bit? [20:42] I gave up on 64bit. I never use it unless I have a specific app, like a monster database that needs the big memory chunks. 64bit was too much of a hassle for me [20:42] 32 [20:42] yeah 64 seems to much to deal w/ [20:42] i use 32bit w/ server kernel to get more ram [20:42] I don't even consider it for the desktop anymore, to many issues [20:42] yeah [20:42] and until its supported better whats the point? [20:43] exactly. no benifit for me to use 64bit [20:43] This si for our mail server. I already have the system imaged and was working on putting the old image on new hardware when someone asked if we could also migrate the system to 64-bit [20:44] Vog: imo i dont see a need, especially if the app isnt written for 64 bit [20:44] There are benefits to 64 bit for me considerieng the load the mail server has [20:44] it will not gain anything [20:44] i would suggest in optimizing the setup [20:45] like doing system profiling [20:45] that way you can get the what, why and how [20:46] to create a solution based on the information you gather in the profiling [20:47] All the same the I have my answer, a migration to 64 bit is best accomplished by a fresh install [20:48] yes, it's the safest way. [20:48] IN this case safe is relative... [20:48] :) [20:48] The main server is staying as is while the new one is built [20:49] Ah that should work well for you the. Give you a chance to test things out and migrate apps one at a time [20:49] I have new server hardware and an external image of the drive [20:49] hello, if I know the exact name of library/module how can i find the name of the package containing it. Google gives me far too many results without the info i need. [20:49] nope [20:50] VirtualDisaster, nope [20:50] Where can I find the iscsi boot documentation for karmic/jaunty? I've gone through a bunch of docs trying to figure it out, but debian-installer never seems to load the partman iscsi module, even if I pass iscsi=true on the kernel command line. [20:50] konza_: odd [20:50] konza_: tell ya what just drop me a line on my website [20:50] use the contact form, i would like to follow up w/ you on a few items [20:53] VirtualDisaster, can u here me inn pm [20:54] konza_: yes sir [20:59] kamilion: i think it is provided as module.I've seen it in the additional module selections when choosing disks [21:15] I get that module loader, when there's no internal drive [21:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-iscsi/+bug/236640 [21:16] Launchpad bug 236640 in open-iscsi "iSCSI install fails under hardy" [High,Fix released] [21:16] The last message there says at least one disk needs to be detected for partman to load the modules. I've tried with and without disks, but nothing I do seems to enable iscsi. [21:17] kamilion: iirc youll have to create some sripts to make it work properly [21:17] i looked into it once but couldnt get it to work so i was like screw it at this point [21:17] Where might I find some help or documentation on how to do that? [21:17] Yeah, I just noticed the A4/A5 release notes saying iscsi boot should work now. [21:18] But I can't find any docs or blogs, I've been messing with it with a couple days now. [21:18] kamilion: most probably, suspend the automatic installation open shell and make the connection manually. [21:19] right, there was a mention in that bug thread about "apt-setup/proposed=true", but I couldn't figure out the meaning of it [21:21] kamilion: you will have to create a few custom rc scripts, i have no really useful links for this matter unfortunately [21:22] hi kirkland :) [21:22] allrighty. I'll keep trying. Guess I'll give a NFSRoot install a shot, at least that's documented. [21:24] kamilion: good luck and if you have success i would love to know what you did [21:24] maybe then i can document it ! [21:25] * kamilion nods [21:26] I'll try bugging the devs working on it. I'd be happy to submit some docs as well [21:26] New bug: #423497 in vm-builder "Sudoers file is misconfigured in AMI ami-5059be39" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423497 [21:29] I'm trying to move from a TFTP-boot to HTTP-boot with gpxe. Hopefully I should end up with a short howto on http-boot+iscsi-root, cause it's only the iscsi-root bits giving me problems so far. [21:32] New bug: #378831 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "MySQL 5.1 support for innodb plugin broken" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/378831 [21:35] If application is made for 32bit x86 architechture. Is there a way to install it on 64bit? http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/ [21:37] New bug: #381202 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.31-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381202 [21:38] frojnd: yeah, apt-get install ia32-libs && dpkg --force-architecture -i your-i386.deb [21:38] frojnd: you could use the linux32 command for instance linux32 uname - a [21:38] iirc there's also 'ia32-apt-get' [21:40] kamilion: I htink you would need to run getlibs after that... or would you? [21:41] kamilion: what is your-i386.deb? [21:41] New bug: #394515 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql-server-5.1 does not include ndb (mysql-cluster)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394515 [21:41] New bug: #407533 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.31-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus post-installation script a retourn? une erreur de sortie d'?tat 1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407533 [21:41] he was making an example of the package you would want to install [21:42] where "youri386.deb is the application you are trying to install [21:43] Vog: what if application is here http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/ [21:43] frojnd: I'm not touching that if you want to run a key logger figure it out yourself [21:44] Vog: kamilion if application would be in the repos than the command would be: apt-get install ia32-libs && dpkg --force-architecture -i lkl ? [21:44] it's not for me [21:45] funny but a some girl asked me if I know of any keylogger. She has some problems with her collage roomates... didn't ask why I just suggest her to install lkl but I didn't know that she has problems installing it since she has 64bit [21:46] Vog: if you feel any better you can help me install any other application for 64bit [21:46] Knowing that that knowlede will be used to install a keylogger in the end no. [21:46] New bug: #397832 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "Failure to install" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397832 [21:47] fine. [21:47] frojnd: I would just tell the girl to make up a better password or somehting or not let more than one person on her machine. [21:49] Vog: I know you would. [21:49] Vog: but if you woud she would say ubuntu sux if I can't install software :) [21:50] ..... Why can't she install software? [21:51] It's not like keyloggers are a heavily used category of legitimately used software. [21:52] lack of knowladge... me myself have no ideas how to install any 32bit software on 64bit and I'm using 4 years linux now.. [21:52] Besides this is the unbuntuserver channel if you want support on unbuntu desktop apps try #ubuntu [21:52] I just didn't had to till now... [21:52] Vog: I already jumped in :) [21:52] cool [21:56] New bug: #422268 in qemu-kvm (main) "eliminate bochsbios build-dep from qemu-kvm" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422268 === jtimberm1n is now known as jtimberman [22:06] New bug: #361754 in qemu "guest needs to boot with clock=acpi_pm (older AMD freq scaling issues)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/361754 [22:06] New bug: #413792 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql-server is upgraded when using a mysql cluster" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413792 [22:22] New bug: #376387 in kvm (universe) "Inconsistent location of kvm-ifup, missing kvm-ifdown" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/376387 [22:22] New bug: #391121 in kvm (universe) "init script should declare dependency on mountkernfs" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391121 [22:22] New bug: #410226 in libvirt (main) "Please add user to libvirtd" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410226 === gewt is now known as sas === sas is now known as sasl === sasl is now known as gewt [22:50] New bug: #426514 in eucalyptus (main) "eucalyptus-cc package (1.6~bzr645-0ubuntu2) code generated from older wsdl, causing runInstances and describeInstances to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426514 [23:23] i'm trying to resize a VM with kpartx and resize2fs, but resize2fs is saying "The filesystem is already xxxxx blocks long. Nothing to do!" [23:23] Anyone know how to properly resize a VM (inside an LVM)? [23:47] New bug: #413789 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "mysql-server has been kept back with dist-upgrading" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413789