[12:43] <CardinalFang> Moin.
[12:47] <verterok> g'moning CardinalFang
[12:51] <thisfred> morning
[13:26] <aquarius> CardinalFang, ping?
[13:30]  * aquarius waves in CardinalFang's direction ;)
[14:17] <__lucio__> hello! im face today
[14:26] <aquarius> thisfred, ping
[14:27] <thisfred> aquarius: pong
[14:27] <aquarius> my dc-records-oauth branch, which does all the oauth magic for DC..it didn't get committed to trunk because couch wasn't ready
[14:27] <CardinalFang> aquarius, hi
[14:27] <aquarius> is there anything you can think of that would stop it going in now?
[14:27] <aquarius> CardinalFang, aha, just the man
[14:28]  * CardinalFang ducks.
[14:28] <aquarius> I've redone my allow-unpairing branch based on your replicate-to-u1 branch
[14:28] <aquarius> which is great
[14:28] <aquarius> I just want to ask you a few things about it before I submit for review
[14:28] <CardinalFang> Cool.  Shoot.
[14:28] <thisfred> aquarius: I forget, what specifically wasn't in yet? Nothing it turned out in the end, right?
[14:28] <aquarius> thisfred, it turned out, nothing. (guilt)
[14:29] <thisfred> aquarius: so I think it can go in, I'll test/review/preview if you wish
[14:29] <CardinalFang> I have tests for the d-c couchdb_io functions, and I'm about 1h from committing.
[14:31] <aquarius> CardinalFang, OK, questions. 1. what needs to be in a pairing record for a real DC server (not a cloud server)? 2. where do I get the oauth data for a newly-paired DC server? 3. is there anything blocking local pairing except oauth not being turned on? 4. is it supposed to bitch about stuff not being closed properly in twisted?
[14:31] <thisfred> aquarius: I still have no definite answer on the admin problem. It would be good if we can confirm that either you or CardinalFang can reproduce it, then I'll file a bug. The couchdb-user list has one person who can reproduce under some circumstances, and one who can't.
[14:32] <aquarius> thisfred, which admin problem?
[14:32] <thisfred> aquarius: if you define an admin in your system couch, it's also good for all the dcs on the system.
[14:32] <aquarius> thisfred, mainly I want to be able to say to statik "once we've done every bug in DC tagged ubuntuone-karmic, we are definitely ready to go" :)
[14:33] <thisfred> I have filed a bug for this with that tag
[14:34] <thisfred> but I have no idea how to solve it: it looks to me like it's an upstream bug, so I want to have that confirmed
[14:34] <aquarius> *nod*
[14:36] <thisfred> bug #424330 if anyone's reading along
[14:37] <CardinalFang> 1)  for non-cloud, need oauth information and either a unique identity of the remote end for zeroconf discoverable machines, or (unimplemented in replicator=) an address and port.
[14:37] <CardinalFang> aquarius, ^
[14:39] <CardinalFang> aquarius, 2) not implemented yet, but pairing tool should get oauth information from remote end at pairing time, and store it in a record.  When I learn what to give out, I'll add it to pairing tool.
[14:40] <CardinalFang> aquarius, 3) yes, blocking:  a) pairing tool doesn't exchange auth info yet. b) replicator doesn't understand static addressed, non-services yet.
[14:41] <CardinalFang> aquarius, 4) No bitching is allowed.
[14:41] <aquarius> CardinalFang, (2) in my branch we now store a record for paired non-cloud DCs, but it makes up lies for the oauth information
[14:41] <urbanape> aquarius, I did a bit more debugging on Friday, going so far as to serve an HTML doc and our sha1, oauth, and (modified) couch javascript files out of Couch itself, so I could trap and play in the Firebug console.
[14:41] <urbanape> seems like something is still screwy, because I still get invalid_json serializing even trivial objects.
[14:41] <aquarius> urbanape, hrm :(
[14:42] <urbanape> indeed.
[14:42] <CardinalFang> aquarius, if you can tell me what should come from the far end, I can give it to you.
[14:43] <aquarius> CardinalFang, is the best thing to do for me to get my branch merged and then you can start working from it?
[14:43] <aquarius> (I had to do things like allow local pairing and so on, so I could test it)
[14:44] <aquarius> it means that we shouldn't build from DC trunk while my branch is in it, though, so maybe you're better to just test my branch independently, not for merging?
[14:46] <CardinalFang> aquarius, yes, maybe you should merge first, but we can neuter the bad parts until we're ready.  Either say "no", or pop up a big Achtung when the tool is about to change the bind address.
[14:48] <urbanape> gonna try one last thing, and back out the changes we made to couch.js and just go with the oauthrequest function from the oauth tests.
[14:48] <aquarius> urbanape, yeah. I don't get what the problem is :(
[14:48] <urbanape> If that works, we'll need to revamp significant parts of Bindwood (since we use the higher-level APIs)
[14:48] <aquarius> CardinalFang, I took out the "return" statements after it pops up "local pairing disallowed"; I can just put them back in
[14:48] <aquarius> urbanape, that'd be sad :(
[14:48] <urbanape> aquarius, neither do I, unfortunately. Maddening.
[15:00] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:00] <jblount> Desktop+ people, your hour has come. "me" gets you into the party, followed by a simple outline of what you have DONE / TODO / and what you are BLOCKED on
[15:01] <teknico> me
[15:01] <urbanape> me
[15:01] <rodrigo_> me
[15:01] <jblount> me
[15:02] <CardinalFang> me
[15:03] <aquarius> me
[15:03] <aquarius> (and me for statik)
[15:03] <jblount> dobey, vds ?
[15:03] <vds> me
[15:03] <teknico> DONE: more work and tests on fixing bug #424434, discussed the branch with vds and jdo, landed it
[15:03] <teknico> TODO: fix bug #423369, talk with jblount about the new contacts web ui, implement adding and editing contacts
[15:03] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:03] <teknico> next: urbanape
[15:04] <dobey> me
[15:04] <urbanape> DONE: Made some good progress debugging the javascript OAuth, but still ended up with questions.
[15:04] <urbanape> TODO: I probably need to check with someone on alternate plans of attack, but this latest debugging direction might prove useful. Also, I'm an on-call reviewer today.
[15:04] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:04] <urbanape> rodrigo_, go go go
[15:04] <rodrigo_> * DONE: OAuth fighting. Fixed google contacts' IDs problem. Had my tomboy patch upstreamed. Changed Tomboy to point to https://one.ubuntu.com/notes
[15:04] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Start upstream discussion for adding social services accounts config to about-me. Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Propose couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb for GNOME 2.29. Store UUIDs for postal addresses. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. More tomboy syncing fixes. More OAuth fighting
[15:04] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: openssl/liboauth generating different keys than python-oauth
[15:04] <rodrigo_> next: jblount
[15:04] <jblount> DONE: Long weekend, few reviews, ui dreaming
[15:04] <jblount> TODO: #402837, chat with teknico about layout stuffs
[15:04] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:05] <jblount> CardinalFang: !
[15:05] <CardinalFang> Thank you, jblount.  You are a scholar and a gentleman.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> DONE: split desktopcouch services out.  closed a few bugs.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> TODO: finish test code; commit.  Integrate aquarius' pairing changes.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: Understanding oauth auth exchange for creating new allowed machines.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> aquarius, yes I said your name.  You're up.
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: allow unpairing of servers (bug #419975) - not yet committed because discussion needed with CardinalFang
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO:
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚁ BLOCKED: can't find CardinalFang ;)
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚂ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 4
 DONE: much domain move stuff
 TODO: more domain move stuff
[15:05] <aquarius> vds, you're up
[15:05] <aquarius> oops, ignore "blocked" there ;)
[15:05] <vds> DONE: proposed branch to improve funambol exchange logs, testing again phone sync, looked at problems with the logs
[15:05] <vds> TODO: make sure the logs work in prod
[15:05] <vds> BLOCKED: no
[15:05] <vds> dobey: your turn
[15:06] <dobey> ⚜ DONE: Reviews, Fixed client to use python-oauth
[15:06] <dobey> ⚜ TODO: Fix protocol to use python-oauth, Add python-oauth to ubunet-dependencies, Fix #397331
[15:06] <dobey> ⚜ BLCK: None.
[15:06] <dobey> que sera sera
[15:06] <teknico> jblount, ehi, stop putting that in TODOs, just do it! ;-)
[15:07] <jblount> MEETING ENDS ?
[15:08] <aquarius> vds, did you catch statik's note about putting bug numbers on everything we're reporting in DONE and TODO?
[15:08] <teknico> statik said "me" ventriloquially, but that was it, apparently :-)
[15:08] <vds> aquarius: nope
[15:08] <vds> aquarius: thanks for pointing it out
[15:08] <vds> I will
[16:22] <urbanape> aquarius, I figured it out.
[16:22] <urbanape> at least, I think I did.
[16:23] <aquarius> urbanape, yay! wassup?
[16:24] <urbanape> things like saving a doc push through the body of the document as options (in the signature)
[16:24] <aquarius> er! really?
[16:24] <urbanape> my little oauthRequest wrapper wasn't passing that along to the underlying CouchDB.request.
[16:24] <urbanape> so, turns out null really is invalid_json
[16:24] <urbanape> dur
[16:25] <urbanape> lordy, what a stupid, stupid mistake.
[16:26] <urbanape> so, yay, Bindwood speaks OAuth now.
[16:26] <urbanape> (same for queries, &c - wasn't actually passing through the body of the request)
[16:29] <urbanape> I had been spitting out the JSONified body of the query before actually handing it off to our instance method, which stripped it back out, basically.
[16:32] <statik> urbanape: hurrah!
[16:32] <urbanape> sometimes you just need a three day weekend. Now, to be three times as efficient, getting the bookmarks properly syncing, &c.
[16:37] <aquarius> urbanape, good work, fella!
[16:38] <urbanape> merge proposed
[16:45] <urbanape> also: a really freaking cool trick: make a bare doc in Couch, and attach, the sha1, oauth, and couch libs as well as a simple HTML file that sets a bunch of stuff up and use that as a nice interactive debugger.
[16:46] <urbanape> s/attach,/attach/
[16:46] <aquarius> urbanape, that's a dead good idea :)
[16:46] <aquarius> urbanape, you could even package that up as a deb if you wanted
[16:55] <urbanape> tcole, I know, that was mostly straight from Couch's provided js library.
[16:55] <urbanape> it's not too hard to lint something before committing and releasing.
[16:55]  * tcole nods
[16:56] <urbanape> I wish javascript had destructuring bindings
[16:58] <urbanape> guess I should have added to the merge proposal: "We no longer try to fall back and use system-supplied Couch. We just punt."
[17:01] <urbanape> I just realized. I'll be in London for my 3mo anniversary.
[17:01] <urbanape> well, "anniversary"
[17:07] <aquarius> dobey, ping?
[17:08] <aquarius> CardinalFang, lp:~sil/desktopcouch/allow-unpairing incidentally :)
[17:10] <CardinalFang> aquarius, you are a rock star.
[17:29] <statik> aquarius: your js is much better than mine, care to do the second review on the bindwood oauth branch? (apologies if you've already worked this out with urbanape)
[17:29] <aquarius> statik, I plan to
[17:30] <statik> awww sum
[18:05] <dobey> aquarius: pang
[18:06] <aquarius> erm, what did I want you for?
[18:07] <aquarius> dobey, oh yeah, I remember -- just a thought. Since we're getting proxy problems with people's firefox proxies blocking access to localhost:30101 or whatever as the callback URL, is it worth trying to go there *first* to see if firefox blocks it?
[18:07] <aquarius> I'm not quite sure how this would work
[18:07] <aquarius> since you can't tell firefox "try this URL, and if it doesn't work try this other one"
[18:07] <aquarius> but it might stop people going throught he dance and then having a proxy block the callback url
[18:08] <dobey> i think it's worth fixing firefox to not be sublimely stupid
[18:08] <dobey> though i'm not sure how, since firefox code is rather nasty
[18:09] <dobey> and how many people are having such a problem anyway?
[18:11] <aquarius> don't know. I just saw your response in a bug report and the idea popped into my head
[18:12] <aquarius> if it's not a good idea, don't worry about it :)
[18:17] <dobey> well i really don't want to pop up a browser to check it... have i mentioned how i don't like oauth? :)
[18:19]  * aquarius grins
[18:19] <aquarius> thought you might take that view :)
[18:19] <dobey> man this laptop is HUGE
[18:24] <dobey> oh nice, more updates for windows
[18:30] <greg-g> statik: ignore me if it is obvious but: is there a specific reason why for the domain name change?
[18:31] <dobey> greg-g: see the ubuntu community team meetings about it
[18:32] <urbanape> out for a latish lunch.
[18:34] <dobey> also
[18:34] <dobey> IE8 is awful
[18:34] <greg-g> dobey: the most recent one?
[18:34] <greg-g> and you mean community council?
[18:34] <dobey> greg-g: yes council, probably not most recent
[18:34] <greg-g> dobey: cool, thanks.
[18:35] <dobey> greg-g: although i don't know how long they've been arguing about ubuntuone :)
[18:35] <dobey> greg-g: the first few council meetings during/right after UDS would be the relevant ones i think
[18:39] <greg-g> dobey: right, the last meeting the domain thing was still on the agenda but it was not addressed: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/01/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt
[18:40] <greg-g> "22:08] <elmo> I'm not sure we can usefully do much with Ubuntu One" and then is it for it being mentioned (other that the first mention which is just the agenda)
[18:41] <greg-g> s/then/that/
[18:41] <aquarius> urbanape, weird, I can't enable bindwood
[18:41] <aquarius> I get "this extension will be enabled when firefox is restarted"
[18:42] <aquarius> and restarting doesn't actually do it, it's still in "will be enabled when restarted" state
[18:43] <dobey> greg-g: hrmm. the entry on the Agenda wiki page looks the same as it did 2 months ago afaict...
[18:43] <dobey> greg-g: :-/
[18:44] <greg-g> dobey: so i'm still going to wait for statik to respond then :) I can't make heads or tails of when this was decided.
[18:56] <statik> re
[18:58] <statik> hey there greg-g. sabdfl asked me for the domain change, it's just taken me a while to get all the pieces in place to do it
[19:28] <urbanape> aquarius, that is strange
[19:28] <aquarius> urbanape, makes it hard to test :(
[19:28] <aquarius> and I don't know how to fix it :(
[19:28] <urbanape> you're using the text-file-in-extensions-folder-with-path-to-checkout?
[19:29] <urbanape> for instance, my bindwood@ubuntu.com file contains the path /home/zbir/dev/bindwood/current
[19:30] <urbanape> which is, in turn, a symlink to the branch I'm currently working on.
[19:40] <urbanape> and launching firefox from a terminal with BINDWOOD_DEBUG=1 firefox & so we log all the good debugging?
[19:42] <statik> you totally need to blog about how to set that crazy stuff up
[19:48] <urbanape> I R CRAZY
[19:50] <urbanape> doesn't everyone read all the commit messages going back in time for all the software they use?
[19:50] <urbanape> yeah, me neither.
[20:40] <urbanape_> sorry, crashy crashy
[20:57] <aquarius> urbanape, back now (sorry)
[20:57] <aquarius> ooh, BINDWOOD_DEBUG? didn't know abuo tthat
[21:00] <aquarius> bloody hell.
[21:00] <aquarius> I've deleted the bindwood@ubuntu.com file and the stupid addons panel *still* knows about bindwood!
[21:00] <aquarius> grr!
[21:01] <aquarius> if I have to delete my firefox profile I'm going to cry like a little girl
[21:02] <urbanape> you might have a regular extension entry in that folder
[21:02] <urbanape> that corresponds also to bindwood.
[21:04] <aquarius> I don't....think I do.
[21:04] <aquarius> difficult to tell, though.
[21:05] <raff0z> hi all
[21:05] <raff0z> i m trying to use ubuntu one
[21:05] <aquarius> weird. firefox recreated bindwood@ubuntu.com...as a folder. I have removed the folder and replaced it with the file. Still no luck re-enabling, though.
[21:05] <raff0z> but my files are "up to date" what can i do? i can't connect and can't delete files that i have uploaded
[21:06] <raff0z> no-one?
[21:09] <aquarius> raff0z, hey
[21:09] <raff0z> ?
[21:10] <raff0z> it can be that is updating?
[21:10] <aquarius> raff0z, I'm not sure I'm following you. You've deleted some files i your Ubuntu One folder, but they haven't been deleted at Ubuntu One?
[21:10] <raff0z> nono
[21:11] <raff0z> i have just now installed ubuntu one
[21:11] <raff0z> and i have uploaded a file (from the web version) but when i try to delete them i can't do it
[21:11] <raff0z> it has the icon on the pannel
[21:12] <aquarius> So, you uploaded a file using the web -- has that file appeared in the Ubuntu One folder on your desktop?
[21:12] <raff0z> and in the preferences there is the option "show when updating"
[21:12] <raff0z> so i think that...but there wasn't any advice of updating
[21:13] <raff0z> no
[21:13] <raff0z> not appeared
[21:13] <raff0z> but it can be that is updating??? (i must configure the firewall????)
[21:13] <aquarius> You shouldn't need to configure any firewall at all
[21:14] <raff0z> or....how can i see the files that ubuntu one is downloadin for the update=ù
[21:14] <raff0z> ?
[21:14] <aquarius> if it's not updating, then the logs might tell us something
[21:14] <aquarius> I don't know enough about the detail of that, though. __lucio__?
[21:14] <raff0z> i repeat that there is the option "show the tray icon when updating" and there is the tray icon
[21:15] <aquarius> __lucio__ may know more about the detail here :)
[21:15] <aquarius> raff0z, it sounds like Ubuntu One is trying to update
[21:16] <raff0z> i think so
[21:16] <aquarius> raff0z, can you start a Terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) and then try the following command in it:
[21:16] <raff0z> but it must be a BIG update! ... it start from 15 min
[21:17] <raff0z> ok
[21:17] <aquarius> tail $HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[21:17] <aquarius> you should get about ten lines listed to the terminal
[21:17] <aquarius> if you then go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ in your browser
[21:18] <raff0z> ok
[21:18] <aquarius> and paste those lines into the box, it will then save those lines so they can be seen by others
[21:18] <raff0z> http://paste.ubuntu.com/267524/
[21:18] <aquarius> raff0z, sorry for being patronising if you already know this stuff :)
[21:18] <aquarius> ah, no access token.
[21:19] <raff0z> np
[21:19] <raff0z> ?
[21:19] <raff0z> what can i do?
[21:19] <aquarius> raff0z, that suggests that your machine hasn't been added to Ubuntu One
[21:19] <raff0z> mmm
[21:20] <raff0z> i have ran ubuntu one for the first time and i was in my account
[21:20] <raff0z> not to the page
[21:20] <raff0z> with add computer
[21:20] <aquarius> If you go to https://one.ubuntu.com/ and log in, then choose "My account", then "Manage the computers on your Ubuntu One account"
[21:20] <aquarius> is there anything in that list?
[21:20] <raff0z> wait
[21:21] <raff0z> o yes
[21:21] <raff0z> lol
[21:21] <raff0z> mmm
[21:21] <raff0z> how can i add one
[21:22] <raff0z> lol
[21:23] <aquarius> ok. Somehow, the Ubuntu One software has installed without helping you to authorise your computer. If you look at https://one.ubuntu.com/support/installation/, did you go through those steps?
[21:23] <raff0z> yes
[21:23] <raff0z> but
[21:23] <raff0z> the 4° step there wasn't for me
[21:24] <aquarius> ah, so starting Ubuntu One didn't start your web browser?
[21:24] <aquarius> that would explain why your computer isn't authorised, although it doesn't explain why the browser didn't start :-)
[21:25] <aquarius> Can you try quitting Ubuntu One and then starting it again :)
[21:25] <raff0z> i have already done 3 times
[21:25] <raff0z> mmm
[21:25] <raff0z> with sudo?
[21:25] <aquarius> definitely not with sudo
[21:25] <raff0z> mmm
[21:25] <raff0z> ok
[21:26] <aquarius> try this command: "u1sdtool -q"
[21:26] <raff0z> what is this?
[21:26] <raff0z> a ok
[21:26] <raff0z> lol
[21:26] <raff0z> ubuntuone-syncdaemon stopped.
[21:26] <aquarius> u1sdtool controls the sync daemon, which is the thing that actually does the work of talking to Ubuntu One
[21:26] <aquarius> now please quit the applet in the notification area too
[21:26] <raff0z> is stopped
[21:27] <raff0z> a sorry
[21:27] <aquarius> (the applet tells teh sync daemon to do stuff, and shows what's going on, but the sync daemon does all the work :))
[21:27] <raff0z> with the notification area
[21:27] <raff0z> it says
[21:27] <raff0z> "still running"
[21:28] <aquarius> yeah, I think it's lying, or possibly the sync daemon is running twice, I'm not sure
[21:28] <raff0z> so with the trayicon is still runing
[21:28] <raff0z> without ... not
[21:28] <aquarius> can you quit the tray icon?
[21:28] <raff0z> yesyes
[21:28] <raff0z> i have already done
[21:28] <raff0z> :P
[21:28] <raff0z> sry
[21:29] <aquarius> ah, ok :)
[21:29] <aquarius> now, try starting Ubuntu One again
[21:29] <raff0z> ok now?
[21:30] <raff0z> (a thing...i must restart the computer?)
[21:30] <aquarius> right, now, try the tail command again, from a terminal: tail $HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[21:30] <aquarius> (you should not need to restart the computer)
[21:31] <raff0z> http://paste.ubuntu.com/267531/
[21:31] <aquarius> still no access token!
[21:31] <aquarius> when you haven't got an access token it's meant to go and get one. Weird.
[21:32] <raff0z> i must reinstall u1?
[21:32] <aquarius> I'm reading the source to work out what it's doing :)
[21:33] <raff0z> a ok
[21:35] <dobey> stop checking the wrong logs
[21:35] <dobey> what does oauth-login.log say?
[21:35] <aquarius> dobey, ah, you will know more than I do, I suspect :)
[21:35] <dobey> i get that a lot ;)
[21:36]  * aquarius gris
[21:36]  * aquarius grins too
[21:36] <raff0z> where can i found oauth-login.log?
[21:36] <raff0z> *find
[21:36] <dobey> ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log
[21:37] <raff0z> must paste?
[21:39] <raff0z> http://paste.ubuntu.com/267533/
[21:39] <dobey> raff0z: and you don't see a browser window anywhere with an "Add this computer" page?
[21:39] <raff0z> no
[21:39] <dobey> weird
[21:40] <dobey> raff0z: can you run "xdg-open http://ubuntuone.com" in a terminal, and tell me what happens?
[21:40] <raff0z> ok
[21:41] <raff0z> i m on the list of files :(
[21:43] <dobey> weird
[21:44] <dobey> did it output anything in the terminal?
[21:44] <raff0z> no
[21:44] <raff0z> :S
[21:49] <raff0z> my files are "up to date"
[21:51] <raff0z> nothing?
[21:54] <dobey> i don't know what's going wrong exactly, but it appears the browser is not being launched to add your computer
[21:57] <raff0z> doh
[21:58] <dobey> what browser are you using?
[22:01] <raff0z> firefox
[22:01] <dobey> 3.0 or 3.5?
[22:01] <raff0z> 3.0.13
[22:01] <dobey> weird
[22:01] <raff0z> i must update?
[22:02] <dobey> try closing all the firefox windows, quitting the ubuntuone applet, and starting the applet again
[22:02] <dobey> no
[22:03] <raff0z> tryied but nothing...but if i left click on the "trayicon" it says to me "connect"
[22:07] <dobey> yes, because it's not connected, because you haven't authorized the machine yet :)
[22:08] <raff0z> mmmmm
[22:08] <raff0z> how can i do thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis xD
[22:08] <dobey> i don't know why the browser isn't opening though :-/
[22:08] <dobey> you are on ubuntu 9.04?
[22:09] <aquarius> dobey, can the d-bus start-up-the-auth thing be poked directly?
[22:09] <raff0z> yes
[22:09] <dobey> aquarius: you mean, via dbus-send?
[22:09] <aquarius> yeah. That might kick off the process? if syncdaemon isn't calling it right?
[22:10] <dobey> no no, the applet is the process, and it's being called right (the applet calls it before starting the syncdaemon)
[22:10] <dobey> and according to the oauth-login.log, it's being called multiple times
[22:10] <dobey> so the problem is the browser starting, not the dbus bit, afaict
[22:11] <dobey> it's like xdg-open is succeeding, but then firefox is failing
[22:12] <dobey> raff0z: maybe if you update your system, then log out, and back in? i don't know what else to try, but it can't hurt :)
[22:13] <raff0z> so
[22:13] <raff0z> i ll try to update then i restart the machine
[22:13] <raff0z> wait for me xD
[22:15] <dobey> ok
[22:24] <drascus321> is there a way to delete all the files on my ubuntu one account?
[22:24] <dobey> select them all and click the delete button? :)
[22:25] <raff0z> nothing
[22:25] <raff0z> :(
[22:25] <drascus321> but what if they are in different folders and such and I want to delete the folders and all that in one
[22:28] <raff0z> eff
[22:29] <dobey> drascus321: you can do it on the desktop client
[22:29] <dobey> raff0z: :(
[22:29] <dobey> raff0z: right-click on the applet and choose "Report a Problem" please :)
[22:29] <drascus321> the problem is I droped a whole bunch of files and folders into my ubuntu one folder but they never updated and although it lists the files as existing they all have no information in them
[22:30] <aquarius> dobey, thanks, there. Do we have a "helping people debug" crib sheet somewhere? :)
[22:30] <dobey> aquarius: i don't know :)
[22:30] <dobey> i certainly haven't written one
[22:30] <raff0z> ok
[22:31] <dobey> drascus321: have you filed a bug?
[22:31] <drascus321> nope i didn't know if this was a bug or some functionality thing I didn't understand e.g there is some button or option I hadn't checked to allow me to do that
[22:32] <raff0z> done...sent a
[22:32] <raff0z> *the problem
[22:32] <dobey> drascus321: sounds like a bug to me. please choose the "Report a Problem" option from the applet :)
[22:32] <drascus321> so in other words I should just be able to drop files into that folder and those files should sync across systems
[22:33] <drascus321> OK I will check for duplicates first
[22:34] <raff0z> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/377984
[22:35] <raff0z> i must receive the private invitataion?
[22:35] <raff0z> *invitation?
[22:37] <drascus321> oh wait it might actually be working I just need to be a little more patient
[22:38] <raff0z> dobey...i must receive an invitation to use ubuntu one?
[22:38] <dobey> no
[22:38] <raff0z> strange
[22:38] <raff0z> see this page
[22:38] <raff0z> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/377984
[22:38] <dobey> drascus321: they should at least sync up to the server, yes
[22:39] <dobey> raff0z: we don't require invitations any more
[22:39] <dobey> raff0z: we used to when in private beta
[22:39] <raff0z> understood
[22:39] <raff0z> :(
[22:40] <drascus321> dobey: that's what I figured I mean I had a few other files that worked no problem
[22:40] <CardinalFang> G'night, all.
[22:41] <raff0z> mmmm
[22:41] <raff0z> it can be that
[22:41] <raff0z> if i close firefox and re-open it , u1 site ask to me to re-login
[22:43] <dobey> raff0z: that shouldn't be the issue
[22:43] <dobey> raff0z: you're saying firefox isn't opening at all when you start ubuntu one though
[22:44] <raff0z> yes
[22:49] <raff0z> ou...i must go
[22:49] <raff0z> :(
[22:49] <raff0z> thx for all!!!! :P
[22:49] <raff0z> see you ^^
[22:50] <dobey> i need to roll too
[23:07] <drascus321> where does ubuntu one store its config file?
[23:09] <verterok> drascus321: the default config it's in /etc/xdg/ubuntuone
[23:09] <verterok> drascus321: and you can override it by creating a config file in ~/.config/ubuntuone/
[23:10] <verterok> drascus321: e.g: in the case of the syncdaemon, it will merge the two config files
[23:12] <drascus321> I reinstalled ubuntu one and now it won't open up firefox so that I can register my computer
[23:13] <drascus321> that's kind of annoying
[23:13] <drascus321> does anyone have the url to register your computer
[23:13] <drascus321> ?
[23:15] <verterok> drascus321: it doesn't work that way :)
[23:16] <verterok> drascus321: please check if you have a ubuntu one token in your keyring
[23:19] <drascus321> i don't see one
[23:25] <drascus321> alright well I guess I am not going to be able to register my computer again oops
[23:25] <verterok> drascus321: could you check if there is an erro in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth.log ?
[23:26] <verterok> *error
[23:27] <drascus321> what kind of error should I be looking for
[23:28] <verterok> drascus321: at the end of the file, any error :)
[23:28] <drascus321> 2009-09-08 18:12:20,047:47.8160381317 UbuntuOne.Client.Applet DBus Error: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
[23:28] <verterok> drascus321: looks like it can't open your browser
[23:29] <drascus321> but it did the first time I installed it
[23:29] <verterok> drascus321: try this: xdg-open http://ubuntuone.com
[23:30] <drascus321> OK one minute
[23:30] <verterok> drascus321: that's what the applet is doing to open the browser :)
[23:35] <drascus321> it didn't work it just took me to the main page of the website
[23:35] <drascus321> but thanks for trying
[23:39] <drascus321> hmm that's kind of an annoying problem
[23:44] <drascus321> I emailed support maybe they can figure it out