| alkisg | Good morning | 09:32 |
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| nubae|work | morning... glade user | 11:41 |
| alkisg | :P | 11:42 |
| sbalneav | Morning all | 14:58 |
| mhall119|work | morning | 15:49 |
| frederickjh | Hi all! I have been running an edubuntu ltsp system now for some time. Recently I packed it all up and moved continents. Now I find that the sound on the clients is not working and I am trying to figure out when and why this happened. | 16:20 |
| frederickjh | I installed Hardy Haron and I know back then all was well. I have since then upgraded to Ibex. I also installed Jack to test out icecast2 and I wonder if either of these have had any impact on the client sound not working. | 16:22 |
| frederickjh | What version of Edubuntu are you running and is client sound working? | 16:23 |
| frederickjh | The reason I ask is saw coments on LaunchPad that version past Hardy of the LTSP were buggy. | 16:24 |
| frederickjh | Any comments on this? | 16:24 |
| frederickjh | No comments? Not from 1 of 25 people logged in? | 16:29 |
| sbalneav | frederickjh: hold on, I just switched to look | 16:34 |
| sbalneav | I would expect jack's the problem. | 16:35 |
| sbalneav | have you tried purging Jack? | 16:37 |
| frederickjh | Hi, sbalneav, I have purge jack using snaptics | 16:37 |
| frederickjh | rebooted everything. | 16:38 |
| frederickjh | My understanding is that LTSP5, which is what Edubutu uses, uses PulseAudio for sound. | 16:39 |
| sbalneav | When you say "upgradeded to ibex", did you rebuild the ltsp chroot as well? | 16:39 |
| sbalneav | Yes, LTSP5 uses pulse | 16:39 |
| frederickjh | Yes, I did go through the routine to update the client image using the chroot. | 16:39 |
| frederickjh | What version of Edubutu are you using? | 16:41 |
| sbalneav | heh, even though I'm an edubuntu developer, I don't actually run it anywhere other than my home test box. | 16:41 |
| frederickjh | oh, so does your client sound work? | 16:42 |
| frederickjh | on your test box? | 16:42 |
| sbalneav | but I'm currently running Ubuntu Hardy at work, and Edubuntu Jaunty at home, and sound works in both | 16:42 |
| frederickjh | ok, Thanks for your response. | 16:43 |
| sbalneav | Is the sound not working at all? Or not working for certain apps? | 16:43 |
| frederickjh | The sound from the clients comes out of the server. | 16:44 |
| frederickjh | It is like the path to route the sound to the clients is not being set up. | 16:45 |
| sbalneav | Are the users in the "sound" group? | 16:45 |
| frederickjh | Let me check. | 16:45 |
| frederickjh | I don't seem to have "sound" group but an audio group which my user is part of. | 16:47 |
| sbalneav | Ok, remove them from the audio group | 16:51 |
| frederickjh | then, | 16:52 |
| sbalneav | If they're in the audio group, they're being given access to the server's audio device, which is probably taking precidence over the remote audio. | 16:52 |
| sbalneav | log them out and in again. | 16:52 |
| frederickjh | ok | 16:52 |
| frederickjh | This may take a bit of time. | 16:58 |
| frederickjh | The gui for editing groups does not have an audio group. | 16:58 |
| frederickjh | and the man page for group is sparse. | 16:58 |
| frederickjh | I need to google how to do this. | 16:58 |
| frederickjh | sbalneav, that did work in that I have no audio coming from the server but I still have no audio from the client. | 17:16 |
| sbalneav | Hm | 17:16 |
| frederickjh | Some program "play" like vlc. Others like TuxMath refuse to even start. | 17:16 |
| sbalneav | Open up a terminal window on the client and type env | grep PUL | 17:17 |
| sbalneav | let me know what it says | 17:17 |
| frederickjh | ok | 17:17 |
| frederickjh | Terminal says: nothing NULL | 17:19 |
| frederickjh | env | grep PUL returns nothing sbalneav | 17:21 |
| sbalneav | Hm. | 17:23 |
| frederickjh | What is that environmental variable for? | 17:23 |
| frederickjh | PUL that is. | 17:23 |
| sbalneav | What's your /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf file look like? | 17:23 |
| sbalneav | Should be your pulse server | 17:23 |
| sbalneav | sbalneav@feniks:~$ env | grep PUL | 17:24 |
| sbalneav | PULSE_SERVER=tcp:192.168.0.250:4713 | 17:24 |
| frederickjh | [Default] | 17:25 |
| frederickjh | CONSOLE_KEYMAP=us | 17:25 |
| frederickjh | XKBLAYOUT = us(basic),us(dvorak) | 17:25 |
| frederickjh | XKBOPTIONS = grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll | 17:25 |
| frederickjh | SOUND_DAEMON=pulse | 17:25 |
| sbalneav | hm | 17:26 |
| frederickjh | I can add that. Is 4713 the default port for pulse audio? | 17:26 |
| sbalneav | just remove the SOUND_DAEMON line | 17:26 |
| sbalneav | things should just default "normally" | 17:27 |
| frederickjh | I just added it an hour or two ago to try and fix this. | 17:27 |
| frederickjh | But it did not change a thing. | 17:27 |
| sbalneav | ok, but since then we've removed the user from the audio group :) | 17:27 |
| frederickjh | I just removed it will log the test user out and back in. | 17:28 |
| sbalneav | No, for that you'll have to reboot the thin client. | 17:28 |
| sbalneav | lts.conf options are only read at boot. | 17:28 |
| frederickjh | ok, going for the reboot | 17:28 |
| sbalneav | k | 17:28 |
| sbalneav | I'll be here | 17:28 |
| frederickjh | sbalneav you are the man! Sound is working again! Thank you so much! | 17:32 |
| sbalneav | Heh, I'm an upstream developer for LTSP, so I've done this a few times :) | 17:33 |
| sbalneav | NP, glad I could help | 17:34 |
| frederickjh | That was the first hurdle. Now I need to figure out how to convert my reisfs lvm partions to ext3 lvm partions and I will be all set. | 18:14 |
| nubae_ | convert with active data? | 18:18 |
| nubae_ | hey sbalneav wanna test a pyapp I made? think made the request yesterday, but you were quite busy, might u have some time today? just requires a little pull | 18:19 |
| nubae_ | its a visual quiz app | 18:19 |
| nubae_ | user uploads an image, labels the various parts and then a student can take a guess wat what those parts are | 18:20 |
| frederickjh | yes, with active data but i can take the system out of service to do it. | 18:21 |
| sbalneav | nubae_: Sure | 18:53 |
| alkisg | sbalneav: Here's a newer version for the import/export users script: http://pastebin.com/f7da29f02 | 20:07 |
| alkisg | On to some glade hacking.. ): | 20:07 |
| alkisg | :) | 20:07 |
| sbalneav | alkisg: Looks good so far. | 20:28 |
| lns_ | nubae_: ping? | 21:30 |
| lns_ | nm, found your link to http://linux-for-education.org/ ;) | 21:33 |
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