[00:28] <morpheuss> hi all
[00:29] <morpheuss> how can i upgrade from kde3 to kde4?
[00:30] <djshotglass> kubuntu have and dists without X?
[00:31] <djshotglass> (command line only)
[01:03] <BlakHat_> hi guys, i am trying to install powerdevil for my laptop. the source tarball doesnt compile, so im either looking for a way to install the program or to move to kde4.2 on my hardy. anyone know how i can achieve that?
[01:09] <saebbi> helloe.. are there any known problems with firefox and kubuntu 9.04 ?
[01:09] <saebbi> because i installed the firefox package via apt, and its not working properly
[01:10] <panos4ever> what do u mean
[01:10] <saebbi> it was basically the first package i installed on a fresh kubuntu install
[01:11] <saebbi> when i enter a URL, say google.com, then enter a search term and click search, it proceeds to the result page
[01:11] <saebbi> but the URL in the adress bar remains just "www.google.com"
[01:11] <saebbi> and i can't click the "back" button
[01:11] <panos4ever> oh i had the same problem
[01:12] <panos4ever> then i downloaded an other browser
[01:12] <panos4ever> based on firefox
[01:12] <saebbi> iceweasel?
[01:12] <panos4ever> yep
[01:12] <panos4ever> then i installed firefox again
[01:13] <saebbi> so you purged firefox first, then installed iceweasel, then installed firefox again?
[01:13] <panos4ever> yes but i dont think that was the problem
[01:13] <panos4ever> i just downloaded the .deb
[01:14] <panos4ever> iceweasel has nothing to do
[01:14] <panos4ever> but it is based on firefox
[01:14] <panos4ever> so uninstall firefox
[01:14] <panos4ever> and download the .deb
[01:14] <panos4ever> or apt again
[01:15] <saebbi> i uninstalled and apted again already
[01:15] <saebbi> installing from the .deb shouldnt make a difference but then again its linux :D
[01:15] <saebbi> i'll give it a try :)
[01:16] <panos4ever> did u purge firefox?
[01:16] <panos4ever> sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox....
[01:20] <saebbi> panos4ever, sorry was afk. yes i purged it, then installed again
[01:21] <panos4ever> ok then install iceweasel so it may install useful libs for firefox too then install firefox
[01:21] <panos4ever> ;)
[01:21] <saebbi> hehe lemme try
[01:23] <saebbi> hm.. there doesn't seem to be an iceweasel package
[01:23] <saebbi> apt-cache search iceweasel doesn't produce anything useful
[01:26] <panos4ever> download the .deb
[01:26] <panos4ever> of iceweasel
[01:27] <panos4ever> or google "debian package iceweasel"
[02:07] <pedahzur> A while back, I remember seeing a utility on Windows where you would hit Ctrl, and it would do a little concentric circle thing around your mouse cursor. I sometimes "lose" my mouse cursor, so that would be helpful. Anything like that available in KDE?
[02:13] <heinkel_112> pedahzur: in Kde3 there used to be a pair of eyes that you could put on your task bar. The eyes would roll in the direction of the mouse pointer as you moved the pointer.
[02:13] <heinkel_112> not sure if there is a kde4 equivalent, I dont use it anymore
[02:15] <pedahzur> heinkel_112: Thanks!
[02:15] <pedahzur> heinkel_112: I'm still using KDE 3, so I'll have to see if I can dig it up.
[02:16] <heinkel_112> pedahzur: i think it was called KDEyes or something like that
[02:16] <cuznt> i want to capture video from my sony8 track and record it on my hard drive. any idea which program to use?
[02:16] <blackvd> I'm experiencing an odd problem. I have Ubuntu Jaunty installed and I recently install kde4.3. Frist time i ran it everything worked fine but after reboot my nvidia drivers quit working. Under Hardware drivers nothing shows up?
[02:16] <blackvd> what gui tool does kde use for drivers?
[02:17] <cuznt> kde>settings>nvidia
[02:17] <cuznt> it has its own special tool
[02:17] <blackvd> doesnt show up for me
[02:18] <cuznt> !nvidia
[02:18] <blackvd> perhaps it didnt get installed. what is the package name?
[02:18] <cuznt> try kde>system>hardware drivers
[02:19] <cuznt> i got no idea package name
[02:19] <blackvd> thats what i was trying to use and it shows no drivers available
[02:19] <blackvd> although i know i have 190 drivers installed
[02:19] <blackvd> in gnome the drivers worked fine
[02:20] <pedahzur> heinkel_112: Found it. Thanks!
[02:20] <heinkel_112> pedahzur: you are welcome :-)
[02:30] <blackvd> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backport/ubuntu is this one down?
[02:30] <bruce_> no
[02:32] <blackvd> im on 64 bit and getting a 404, dont recall having problems before
[02:34] <blackvd> im confused? the nvidia 185 libvdpau is installed ...i cant uninstall it without removing kde yet no drivers show up in hardware drivers! how can this be?
[02:40] <TD-Linux> I get 404 as well
[02:41] <blackvd> ok good not just my imagination
[02:46] <solifugus> What's the latest version of kubuntu?
[02:46] <solifugus> 9.04?
[02:47] <solifugus> yes.. i see it is..
[02:47] <solifugus> How do you all connect to wireless networks?  I've been using the Network Managment KDE control module..
[02:52] <kaddi> solifugus: I've been using wicd, has been working great
[02:56] <blackvd> so jockey-gtk shows my drivers yet i cant install due to broken packages
[02:56] <blackvd> yet apt-get update show none or synaptic
[03:00] <solifugus> kaddi: the problem I have with KDE's Network Manager is that there's no button to make it connect on demand.  I click the check to connect automatically and it does.. but only sometimes at that moment.. It's usually a long wait or else rebooting to make it work.
[03:00] <kaddi> you might try to set it up without a gui
[03:00] <solifugus> kaddi: seriously.. it wasn't easy to find either.. its definitely not user friendly
[03:00] <solifugus> kaddi: yeah.. i don't actually know how.
[03:21] <Marko38> Can anyone help with repartitiong my drive? ubuntu to be honest was not my first choice of OS, it got me back online after my hard drive failed, trouble is I now wish to revert to windows but when i run fdisk it hangs no matter what option I select, I can't even view partition info..
[03:23] <Sir_Brizz> is anyone using Karmic?
[03:23] <Sir_Brizz> I'm getting black bars on the taskbar and the corners of some windows
[03:23] <Marko38> almost the same problem if i try to use the partition manager built in to ubuntu, I forget the name for now but is closes with a fatal error
[03:25] <fernando> opa
[03:26] <Guest20985> alguem do brasil ae?
[03:26] <fernandomukeka> opa
[03:26] <fernandomukeka> boa noite good night
[03:27] <Marko38> g'night
[03:27] <fernandomukeka> belezinha marco?
[03:28] <Marko38> sorry engish only here
[03:29] <fernandomukeka> i'm sorry
[04:01] <zebaztian> hey, i turned off the desktop effects and it looks weird like no title bars and hte kde panel is gone i'm having to alt tab to move around how can i fix it
[04:02] <zebaztian> *help
[04:09] <ramon> ok
[04:12] <SJr> If I boot my computer up, with my ExpressCard (the replacement for cardbus) installed, ubuntu recognizes it. If I do not have it installed on bootup, I don't seem to be able to get it to load. The module is sky2, and it doesn't seem to depend on any other module
[04:19] <shrey_> Anybody know how can i give my kubuntu more drive space..i have installed it in windows, now i want to increase its size. can i do it.
[04:20] <hellhound> is there a way with KDE's kontact to sync google gmail contacts. I have tried setting it as a LDAP using GCALDaemon but works horribly
[04:24] <kaddi_> how can I print through commandline? I'm accessing a pc per SSH and would like to print a pdf-file, while printing 2 pages on one.
[04:26] <shrey_> can anyone tell me how to configure kmail for hotail..
[04:27] <herenbdy> hello, does kubuntu have a Add / Remove applications app that works like gnome's? (it lists whole applications instead of individual packages)
[04:32] <NutCobbler> herenbdy: "Adept"
[04:33] <NutCobbler> herenbdy: The program is standard on Kubuntu..
[04:34] <NutCobbler> herenbdy: Oh, you are looking for something simpier..
[04:34] <herenbdy> yeah, for my friend who switched from gnome to kde
[04:34] <NutCobbler> herenbdy: Wait, Adept is the simple program..
[04:34] <herenbdy> know the name of gnome's Add/Remove app by chance?
[04:35] <herenbdy> Adept seems to show individual packages like kpackagekit
[04:35] <NutCobbler> Synaptic?
[04:35] <NutCobbler> Look under the browse icon.. All the programs are categorized into program type.
[04:36] <herenbdy> browse under synaptic, or adept?
[04:37] <herenbdy> NutCobbler: ^
[04:37] <NutCobbler> Open adept.. Its the easier program. There is a binocular icon and you can choose a category like "Office" then on the right you choose what you want to install etc.
[04:38] <herenbdy> still not like gnome's version :/
[04:38] <kaddi_> isn't synaptic gnome's version?
[04:39] <NutCobbler> I am looking for the source for a KDE toy called ktuberling. I have checked through the websvn.kde.org and have been unable to find any subdirectory holding it. Where do I find this?
[04:40] <herenbdy> synaptic is equivalent to kpackagekit
[04:41] <herenbdy> in gnome there's a menu entry that has a much simpler interface, that groups things by full applications, instead of by package
[04:41] <herenbdy> Add/Remove Programs
[04:42] <NutCobbler> There is a new package management system coming out for k/ubuntu in the near future that is supposed to be modeled on the Apple iPhone App Store.
[04:42] <NutCobbler> Its going to be called like, "AppCenter".
[04:43] <herenbdy> firing up an ubuntu VM just to find out the app name, xD
[04:44] <herenbdy> gnome-app-install
[04:45] <NutCobbler> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareStore
[04:45] <NutCobbler> Packages affected: aptoncd, computer-janitor, computer-janitor-gtk, gdebi, gnome-app-install, software-properties-gtk, software-store, synaptic, update-manager
[04:46] <herenbdy> oh nevermind
[04:46] <herenbdy> running adept from the menus ggives me the ncie view
[04:46] <Korlis> hey all
[04:47] <herenbdy> running adept from the command-line give me the KPackageKit-like view
[04:47] <NutCobbler> Hi Korlis. Do you know about KDE sources well?
[04:47] <Korlis> so hows the newest kde working out for everyone?
[04:47] <Korlis> im no expert, but if you have a question i'll see if i can answer it
[04:48] <NutCobbler> I am looking for the source for a KDE toy called ktuberling. I have checked through the websvn.kde.org and have been unable to find any subdirectory holding it. Where do I find this?
[04:48] <Sir_Brizz> gyah
[04:48] <Sir_Brizz> I'm running Karmic Alpha 5 and getting black bars and boxes all over the place
[04:48] <Sir_Brizz> lik some transdparency going on that my turdface intel gma can't handle
[04:49] <Korlis> nutcobblker, is that the potato guy game?
[04:49] <NutCobbler> Yeah!
[04:50] <NutCobbler> Korlis, I want to study the source for the game!
[04:50] <Korlis> hmm, let me check
[04:51] <NutCobbler> Korlis, Its like hidden well. I've looked a couple of times for it.
[04:51] <shrey_> Anybody know how can i give my kubuntu more drive space..i have installed it in windows, now i want to increase its size. can i do it.
[04:51] <NutCobbler> shrey, did you use a VM?
[04:52] <shrey_> no...i received DVD of kubuntu so there was option in that install in windows..so i selected that
[04:53] <shrey_> i gave it 6GB now i want to give it more..as 6 GB is very less.
[04:56] <Korlis> hey nutcobbler, you got msn or yahoo?
[04:56] <Korlis> i was doing C++ a whie ago and sitll have the source to ktuberling in my home folder, so i can jst send it to you
[04:57] <NutCobbler> Korlis, like an instant messager? Neither.. I'm in Linux.. Do you know where the latest version is on the Internet?
[04:58] <Korlis> its just a text file though, i don't have the pictures or other files that go with it
[04:58] <Korlis> so if you want to compile your own version you'll have to find taht on your own
[04:58] <NutCobbler> shrey, I'm looking into your installation type. I think you boot to Kubuntu. I found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDROMUbuntuInstallationFromWindows
[04:59] <NutCobbler> Korlis, its a single file?
[04:59] <Korlis> yeah, im pretty sure im missing some modules, but if you jts want to study some code its ok
[05:00] <Korlis> wait a sec, i think a google search brought up something
[05:00] <Korlis> http://www.cs.washington.edu/research/projects/se/www/kde/reuse_patterns/source_code/ktuberling.src/classes/ktuberling%27TopLevel.html
[05:01] <NutCobbler> shrey, I also found: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerForWindows
[05:01] <Korlis> i prefer python honestly, i never use coding for more than quick dirty tasks that i need to be able to perform on any pc
[05:01] <NutCobbler> shrey, does your install sound like the latter link?
[05:02] <Korlis> something else going on whie i was looking on google and my home partition?
[05:03] <Korlis> NutCobbler, did that link give you what you were looking for?
[05:04] <NutCobbler> Korlis, yeah. I was hoping to get a full compilable source download.
[05:04] <Korlis> i'll see if i can find a tarball for you
[05:05] <shrey_> i m reading it...tell u soon.
[05:05] <NutCobbler> Korlis, I noticed on the KDE site that they intend to go to GIT. I haven't played with that. Could it be hiding there?
[05:06] <Korlis> hmm, ik haven't used GIT in a while
[05:06] <Korlis> could be
[05:08] <shrey_> no did'nt find anything in it..
[05:09] <NutCobbler> Korlis, I found something: http://packages.debian.org/sid/ktuberling
[05:09] <NutCobbler> Korlis, I am downloading a tar right now, but for future reference, I assume that the game is hiding somewhere in the KDE versioning system..
[05:10] <Korlis> i was just about to check deb repos for a tarball, i can't find it on kde's site
[05:11] <shrey_> NutCobbler: i installed adept that u referred just a while ago, and i m installing one program using it, but it is also downloading many other packages with it. now if when i will uninstall it will it remove those packages also or the single file.
[05:12] <NutCobbler> Is it that these projects like Debian, KDE, Kubuntu are growing so quickly that there components are poorly organized.
[05:12] <Korlis> if you remove it then any dependencies that are no longer needed should be removed
[05:12] <joshua> hello
[05:13] <Korlis> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdegames/ktuberling/
[05:13] <Korlis> badabing
[05:13] <NutCobbler> shrey, the dependencies don't go automatically. I haven't worried about removing extra files that have lost their dependents..
[05:13] <Korlis> apt-get autoremove will get rid of extra dependencies lying around
[05:14] <NutCobbler> Korlis, Nice one. I'd like to figure out why it is so hard to look something like this up!
[05:14] <shrey_> NutCobbler: but then they will consume my disk space ?
[05:15] <NutCobbler> shrey, Library dependencies could go up to maybe 2 meg? I think that's insignificant now-a-days.
[05:15] <shrey_> NutCobbler: it is installing many docs and perls and many more thing right now..in the starting it showed that it will consume 36MBs but the program which i installed that is Googlizer was in KBs only..than what is taking the space..
[05:16] <NutCobbler> shrey, I programmed and played on a computer that had a 20 meg hard drive in the late 80s.
[05:16] <Korlis> Shrey, i changed from kde to gnome when kde went 4.x, ive been doing dist-upgrade since feisty, and the unused libraries and deps are not even noticable
[05:18] <Korlis> though i am planning to do a clean isntall of karmic koala this october so i can switch back to KDE now that it's gotten better
[05:19] <shrey_> Korlis: KDE has better looking and i like it..that's why  i use that...
[05:20] <Korlis> i liked kde in it's 3.5 era, i didn't like 4.x, but ive heard its gotten awesome, so i'm gonna do a clean install of karmic koala when its released
[05:21] <NutCobbler> Gnome and KDE co-exist easily. I installed Ubuntu once, didn't care for Gnome and did a KDE install from inside Gnome. After a reboot KDE was ready and working.
[05:22] <Korlis> yep, thats what i did to switch from KDE
[05:23] <Korlis> but a clean install will allow me to switch to ext4 without worrying about old files still being ext3, and will also allow a clean install of KDE 4.3
[05:24] <shrey_> But KDE is less stable i think than Gnome..
[05:24] <Korlis> was, the newest release is pretty darn stable
[05:25] <shrey_> kubuntu shows me many errors ..sometimes in ktorrent sometimes in dolphin
[05:25] <Korlis> Kubuntu isnt the best showcasing of KDE, which is supposed to change in karmic
[05:26] <Korlis> right now, id say one of the best KDE distros is Fedora
[05:26] <Korlis> OpenSuse is great with KDE too
[05:26] <Korlis> but if your only judge of KDE is Kubuntu, then you aren't seeing it's full potential, they have badly implemented it
[05:27] <Korlis> but as i said, riumor says they've showed KDE more love with karmic, so im gonna try it again
[05:28] <kuttans> KDE with karmic is great
[05:28] <kuttans> a number of bugs are done but still some exists
[05:28] <kuttans> for example empathy....the messenger is not much good to work with kde
[05:29] <kuttans> can anyone throw some light on ubuntu update problems lately
[05:30] <Korlis> what problems are those
[05:30] <kuttans> it get struck when downloading packages and it take ages to download even the .bin files
[05:30] <shrey_> actully i m a new user..first time installed kubuntu on my system
[05:30] <kuttans> in past i used to put update and relax...but now i gotta watch it constantly....bcoz it struck at any level and never restart the download automatically
[05:30] <Korlis> sounds liek your having internet problems
[05:30] <NutCobbler> shrey, I looked up what you have installed. You are running Kubuntu from an image file in c:\ubuntu . Since it is a real file system in a file (in Windows on a Windows partition) you'd need to get that file accessed as a file inside of another Linux boot. You likely have NTFS as C: so a boot cd is out of the question to resize. You do have the option of creating a second image you can mount for your personal files inside of
[05:30] <NutCobbler> your Kubuntu system but all of that seems like a lot of work compared to a native install!
[05:31] <kuttans> but my other things work great
[05:31] <kuttans> even a file of 2 gb downloaded nicely
[05:31] <Korlis> i haven't had that trouble, and have never heard of it kuttans
[05:32] <kuttans> i dont know it started after one update
[05:32] <Korlis> could be the servers you're downloading from
[05:32] <kuttans> i think one week or before that
[05:32] <kuttans> but i put it download it from the best server
[05:32] <Korlis> shrey, youcoming from windows?
[05:32] <kuttans> hey i got windows 7 yday and installed in vbox
[05:32] <shrey_> ya korlis me from windows..
[05:32] <Korlis> what are you trying to download kuttans?
[05:32] <kuttans> they done the same gimmicks they did with vista
[05:33] <kuttans> im trying to do apt-get update
[05:33] <shrey_> my laptop is slow so i still use XP
[05:33] <Korlis> how long you been using linux?
[05:33] <kuttans> and i already restrated the download process 3 times
[05:33] <shrey_> this is my first time...
[05:33] <shrey_> i m just learning how to use it..
[05:33] <kuttans> its great shrey, i feel empowered by linux
[05:33] <Korlis> well then welcome shrey, you'll love it
[05:34] <Korlis> just to let you know, if you're running from wubi, it will be slower
[05:34] <shrey_> i view screen shots of karmic koala..its same like kubuntu 9.04
[05:34] <kuttans> dont loose your heart if you get any problems, arise, awake, die not till the goal is reached
[05:34] <Korlis> yeah shrey, the eye candy is pretty much bar none, they've been woprking under the hood
[05:34] <kuttans> no shrey its bcoz of its in the beta stage still
[05:35] <kuttans> and moreover ubuntu do the tinsel work at the last stage of release
[05:35] <Korlis> alpha 5 has made huge strides in KDE usability in kubuntu
[05:35] <shrey_> i have kubuntu 9.04 ...and installed all the update..
[05:36] <kuttans> good to use that as it is the stable version so far
[05:36] <kuttans> and try karmic after october
[05:36] <Korlis> and shrey, you might get stuck on some things, but i think you'll find that the linux community offers a but more support that microsoft does
[05:36] <Korlis> bit
[05:36] <shrey_> ya sure..and i find this IRC very much supportive..
[05:36] <kuttans> linux community is the one i found more helpful than anything
[05:37] <shrey_> whenever i have any problem u guys always help..its like live helpdesk
[05:37] <Korlis> and if we're not here, the forums got all you need
[05:37] <kuttans> for example i formatted my laptop 50 times to get used to this linux
[05:37] <Korlis> wow kuttans, i hope you have backups, cuz you're hard drive won't last long that way
[05:37] <kuttans> yeah............now i have full confidence that i can get back anything i had before
[05:38] <kuttans> i did that bcoz i wanna try my level best to learn things without much help
[05:38] <Korlis> shrey, one thing, when you get full into linux, one tool i can not live without is remastersys, you have to learn a but of command line for it, but it is invaluable
[05:38] <kuttans> so whenever i try new things i used to break up the file system beyond recovery
[05:39] <kuttans> and i was a hard core windower before i came to linux....
[05:40] <kuttans> it all started when i read about linus torvald
[05:40] <Korlis> i have a live dvd lying around with all the applications i use pre-installed, and if i have to reinstall all i have to worry about is customizing the look, becauyse all my apps are right there
[05:40] <kuttans> anyway have a nice time with linux shrey
[05:40] <calvin> are there any good WEB CAM programs for KDE? gnome has cheese
[05:40] <Korlis> thanks to remastersys, which let me create a live dvd of my entire OS
[05:40] <kuttans> i do a full back up with simple backup and i just replace it whenever i do a reformat
[05:40] <kuttans> and i get back the whole system along with my look
[05:41] <Korlis> i believe you can save personal settings with remastersys, i just chose not to for time sake
[05:41] <kuttans> ok guys time to get back to work..........bye Korlis, i will check about the server where from im upgrading
[05:41] <Korlis> later
[05:41] <kuttans> c you later
[05:41] <Korlis> and having a live dvd to use my apps from is cool too
[05:42] <Korlis> calvin, let me see
[05:42] <Korlis> for starters
[05:42] <Korlis> webkam
[05:42] <Korlis> default kde webcam app
[05:43] <calvin> couldnt find it in apt-install
[05:43] <calvin> nm its webcam
[05:43] <calvin> installing it right now...
[05:45] <Korlis> you can also use vlc with a webcam
[05:45] <Sir_Brizz> well I think Karma is still not really useable
[05:45] <Korlis> File - Open Capture Device -choose the webcam
[05:45] <Sir_Brizz> thought it would be further along for some reason :p
[05:46] <Korlis> its alpha, what do you want?
[05:46] <Korlis> its not supposed to be usable at this point
[05:46] <Sir_Brizz> a working network manager for one thing ;)
[05:46] <Sir_Brizz> but yeah
[05:46] <Sir_Brizz> I thought it should be close enough to release, but no it's not
[05:46] <jasa> Hmm, i have one question quick btw towards the library thing on kubuntu, is it as i think that "/usr/lib64" is the 64bit library or windows style that it's 32bit compability library ?
[05:47] <jasa> As i threw 64bit flash on there and it works fine but kaffeine wants to install own flash for some reason ... ?
[05:47] <jasa> 9.10 version at use btw.
[05:47] <Korlis> its the 64 biut libs, i belive if you need 32 bit compat you need to install libao32 or something like that
[05:48] <Korlis> i don;t remember the exact library name, i still use 32 bit OS
[05:48] <Korlis> my laptop is old, still has 32 bit cpu, and my printer only works in linux with a 32 bit OS
[05:48] <jasa> Korlis: well i can understand totally you even if you had newer system as well.
[05:49] <calvin> i think kde 4.3.1 has improved tremendously
[05:49] <calvin> its actually usable
[05:49] <jasa> Korlis: the overal gain isn't that obivious as some folks would consider.
[05:49] <calvin> im on 64 bit right now
[05:49] <Korlis> the boot time is about 3 seconds less
[05:49] <Korlis> honestly, upgrading to ext4 gains you much more performance than just going 64 bit
[05:49] <jasa> calvin: i agree on that, with one exeption that is kaffeine for television purposes it seems they took network broadcasting features and additional plugin things away from kde4 release.
[05:50] <Korlis> jasa, install miro
[05:50] <jasa> im actually thinking on compiling ffmpeg for vdpau support but one thing im still missing on that i should look is that is there external supprt on own compiled ffmpeg libraries really.
[05:50] <Sir_Brizz> 9.10 has weird black boxes on everything for me
[05:51] <jasa> Or perhaps i should just trust the normal xv in that case and save alot time.
[05:51] <jasa> Sir_Brizz: what graphics card ?
[05:51] <Korlis> do you have an intel gpu brizz?
[05:51] <jasa> Sir_Brizz: or driver at use.
[05:51] <Sir_Brizz> yes
[05:51] <Sir_Brizz> it's a crappy intel gma
[05:51] <Sir_Brizz> it's a moot point because I can't get my wifi going on 9.10 so I'm going back to Jaunty for now
[05:52] <Korlis> yeah, the new x server doesn't work well with intel gpu's
[05:52] <Sir_Brizz> in Jaunty before I was getting all kinds of garbage on the screen
[05:52] <jasa> Well i think i'll trust the normal packages in this case and abandon the current plan i had, but i need to restart cause of new kernel ... cya. =)
[05:52] <Sir_Brizz> like residual garbage from windows that were open and now closed
[05:53] <Sir_Brizz> all I can figure is that it's crappy intel crap
[05:53] <NutCobbler> Korlis, Which x server?
[05:53] <Korlis> yeah, it is
[05:53] <Korlis> the version of x.org they're using in karmic
[05:53] <Sir_Brizz> well hopefully they figure out a way to fix it by release
[05:53] <Sir_Brizz> hardly need another reason to go back to gnome
[05:53] <Korlis> nvidia might be proprietary, bt it works well
[05:54] <Sir_Brizz> *cough* working network manager *cough*
[05:54] <Sir_Brizz> yeah
[05:54] <NutCobbler> Korlis, I have a laptop with an Intel graphics chipset. What should happen when I upgrade to 9.10 (from 8.10)?
[05:54] <Sir_Brizz> I wish I had an nvidia in here
[05:54] <Sir_Brizz> all I care about is it works, I don't care about FOSS/proprietary/whatever
[05:54] <Korlis> hopefully nothing nutcobbler, they're supposed to have it fixe by release
[05:54] <NutCobbler> k
[05:54] <Sir_Brizz> (not in this case I mean, but as a general rule)
[05:55] <Korlis> yeah i agree, if proprietary works better than free, thats wat i'll use, which is why i use nvidia
[05:55] <Sir_Brizz> you'd think somebody would just fix the intel drivers since they are open source
[05:55] <Sir_Brizz> they are really terrible
[05:55] <Korlis> if windows worked better than linux id use it
[05:56] <Korlis> intel gpus suck anyway
[05:56] <Sir_Brizz> yes
[05:56] <Sir_Brizz> but they are common in laptops these days
[05:56] <Sir_Brizz> sadly
[05:56] <Korlis> ATI is good, and has open specs, once we get good open source drivers for it i might change over
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> Intel GMA is pretty much the worst thing Intel has ever done
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> and I'm including that time they left the math co processor off the Penitums
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> Pentiums*
[05:57] <Sir_Brizz> and they couldn't even do simple math
[05:58] <Korlis> intel wants the whole cake, they're not happy with cpu, they want gpu, and apu - zpu
[05:58] <Sir_Brizz> lol
[05:58] <Sir_Brizz> they still have a huge market share with GMA despite the fact that nobody that has to utilize them likes them at all
[05:58] <Korlis> I also prefer AMD over Intel btw ;-)
[05:58] <Sir_Brizz> me too :p
[05:59] <Korlis> anyway, i gotta work tomorrow, so im gona take off, see you later
[05:59] <Sir_Brizz> AMD has been trying to go too high end for my tastes lately though
[05:59] <Sir_Brizz> later man
[07:05] <ugur> hi all is there a way in kubuntu jaunty to show all text at once when hovered over an icon on desktop?
[07:05] <matyd> I just installed kubuntu on my laptop, not this one, and my wireless button will not turn on. Not finding my wireless network and haven't found anything in the help files about it really, can someone help me out
[07:06] <ugur> There is an option to select which lines of text to show but i dont want it to show only the ones i hover on
[07:09] <ugur> matyd: could you run this command in a konsole: lspci | grep -i wireless
[07:09] <matyd> one sec
[07:10] <matyd> 05:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce one 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[07:10] <Hiisty> sounds bad
[07:11] <matyd> i did sudo lshw -C network as the help files said and saw it was disabled
[07:11] <||arifaX> how can I restart the device watcher (dunno the english word) that thing that shows up new connected devices in kde?
[07:11] <matyd> the button on the laptop itself won't light up though heh, like it isn't urning on ;P
[07:12] <ugur> matyd: and can you see something like wlan0 in the output of this command: ifconfig
[07:12] <matyd> eht0 and lo only
[07:13] <Hiisty> i think 4318 need ndiswapper to work?
[07:14] <matyd> how do i get that?
[07:15]  * matyd is a n00b
[07:15] <matyd> jus installed it today
[07:15] <Hiisty> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=bcm4318
[07:16] <matyd> .
[07:16] <Hiisty> or just google bcm4318 linux, and u get many instructions, or maybe someone here can help
[07:16] <matyd> oka
[07:16] <matyd> thanks
[07:16] <Hiisty> np
[07:16] <||arifaX> sorry to ask again hwo to restart that miniprog that shows up newly connected devices. its urgent
[07:17] <||arifaX> it would be enough to know the command
[07:28] <ugur> i think if you see the driver in lspci output you don't have to install a driver with ndiswrapper
[07:30] <ugur> ||arifaX: add device notifier widget in plasma
[07:40] <matyd> heh i'm online via wired
[07:40] <matyd> i can't figure out how to get ndiswrapper to get my wan to workthough
[07:43] <ubuntu> i have a major problem..The root filesystem is currently mounted in read-only mode. ctrl+d
[07:48] <Achelea> I can't seem to figure out how to get Ubuntu on my home network.
[07:50] <jasa> And now comes stupid question on, is there on kubuntu release a "hidden" basic config for video drivers and similiar things on where i could put line of "nvidia" instead of "nv" as by claims it seems it loads some default thing from "outer space" ... and i wouldn't want to just make that xorg.conf file if it could be done by some other way around.
[07:52] <ugur> matyd: what is the result of this command: iwconfig wlan0 power on ?
[07:54] <jasa> See, that is that thing on ... it's some simple solution on where it is stored at, but rather you just wait that someone else says that.
[07:55] <jasa> I wouldn't like to just create that file for small purpose on cause it has some place or default thing it reads those things according xorg.log.0 ...
[07:56] <jasa> Well i guess i'll have to then.
[07:57] <ugur> Achelea: install samba if you don't have
[08:06] <hemanth> Trying to install ATI/AMD FGLRX drivers for ATI Technologies Inc Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
[08:07] <hemanth> read all the wiki's each methods are different which is the best fix
[08:07] <hemanth> *the best fix
[08:11] <ivan_> any from serbia
[08:48] <paprika> hello
[08:58] <bighnajit> hi there
[09:29] <|eagles0513875|> for some reason on jaunty wether i use 2.6.28 11 or 15 it seems to stop booting at the apm O_O
[09:31] <eagles0513875> im not sure what is causing this except im thinking it was some updated packages from yesterday
[09:40] <eagles0513875> genii: need some urgent help
[09:45] <unitypunk> eh
[09:45] <unitypunk> what do i do if i forgot my root pass.
[09:45] <unitypunk> never mind
[09:45] <unitypunk> i remeberd it lol
[09:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:46] <eagles0513875> at least that aint as bad as what im having to deal with
[09:46] <unitypunk> eh
[09:46] <unitypunk> atleast problems are easilysolveable with linux.
[09:46] <eagles0513875> some how any updated package yesterday seems to have screwed up my entire install i have no desktop no sudo no nothing
[09:47] <eagles0513875> dont think my problem is for some reason lol
[09:47] <unitypunk> eh
[09:47] <unitypunk> worst case you can always just reinstall.
[09:47] <unitypunk> not like windows.
[09:47] <unitypunk> reinstalling dosent mean your problems will go away lol
[09:49] <unitypunk> man
[09:49] <unitypunk> i dont understand.
[09:49] <bigjools> I just noticed that my update notifier has not been running, probably since I upgraded to 4.3.  If I run it manually I get "ImportError: No module named PyQt4.QtCore"
[09:50] <bigjools> anyone else get this?
[09:50] <unitypunk> i just formatted this drive and theres a file on it called lost+found.
[09:50] <unitypunk> why.
[09:50] <unitypunk> hmmph.
[09:51] <unitypunk> so i just formatted that drive.
[09:51] <eagles0513875> unitypunk: the lost+found is normal lm8
[09:51] <eagles0513875> nothing to worry about
[09:51] <eagles0513875> im curious to see what a possible fix could be for this
[09:51] <unitypunk> why is it taking up 11 gigs.
[09:51] <unitypunk> 21 gigs.
[09:51] <eagles0513875> O_O
[09:51] <unitypunk> its 16gb hd, and 139 are free.
[09:51] <unitypunk> 160*
[09:52] <eagles0513875> hey dwidmann i need your help either in here or offtopic plz
[09:52] <eagles0513875> humm good question
[09:52] <unitypunk> i knoticed when i used gparted it only said it was 149gb too.
[09:52] <unitypunk> wtfs with that.
[09:53] <eagles0513875> what file system did you use ext3 or ext4
[09:53] <bigjools> fsck puts stuff in there when it recovers corrupted file entries
[09:53] <unitypunk> 3
[09:53] <unitypunk> bigjools:  i JUST formatted it.
[09:53] <unitypunk> it should have any stuff on it.
[09:53] <eagles0513875> ok normally though after a format you will never get the full 160 youll get about 152 or so
[09:53] <eagles0513875> unitypunk: its there for when fsck runs and finds corrupted file entries
[09:53] <bigjools> so there's also going to be space reserved for rroot
[09:54] <unitypunk> no. there isnt.
[09:54] <unitypunk> its a storage drive.
[09:54] <unitypunk> not an os.
[09:54] <eagles0513875> still when you format you wont get the full 160
[09:54] <eagles0513875> youll get bout 150 something
[09:54] <evilfrits> hi
[09:54] <eagles0513875> !hi | evilfrits
[09:54] <unitypunk> so wheres my 11 gigs then! lol
[09:55] <unitypunk> 139 not equal to 150something.
[09:55] <eagles0513875> this is an external usb drive right
[09:55] <unitypunk> yeah
[09:56] <eagles0513875> nothing on there right
[09:56] <unitypunk> except lost+found wich i cant read..
[09:56] <unitypunk> locked.
[09:56] <eagles0513875> do you have fsck running on a machine
[09:56] <unitypunk> no.
[09:56] <eagles0513875> try give it another format and see if the issue is the same if it is then i have no idea whats up :(
[09:57] <unitypunk> is there some command to do a low level format?
[09:58] <sub[t]rnl> you can change the amount of space being reserved with tune2fs
[09:59] <eagles0513875> ahh yes it reserves a % for root i believe the default is 5% so that 5% is reserved for root
[09:59] <eagles0513875> that can be adjusted like sub[t]rnl said with tune2fs
[09:59] <unitypunk> hmm
[10:00] <eagles0513875> hehe unitypunk man tune2fs
[10:00] <unitypunk> rofl
[10:08] <alvin> In /etc/fstab, the default option for swap is 'sw'. What does that mean? The option is not described in the mount manual. Shouldn't it be there?
[10:08] <unitypunk> lol
[10:09] <unitypunk> pretty self explanitory..
[10:10] <alvin> therefore, there is no need to mention the default option in the manpage?
[10:11] <unitypunk> i guess not lol
[10:13] <alvin> So, I might as well use 'defaults'?
[10:14] <alvin> defaults = (rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, async)
[10:14] <alvin> That one is in the manpage
[10:15] <theadmin> Can't get more then 1280x800 in KDE.
[10:16] <theadmin> and what is lost+found folder
[10:18] <eagles0513875> theadmin: its used by fsck when it finds files during an fsck pas that were corrupted
[10:19] <theadmin> eagles0513875: Why can't i open it? "Access denied" is what dolphin gives.
[10:19] <eagles0513875> not sure if root would be the only one able to access it
[10:20] <theadmin> eagles0513875: ah, makes sense. I don't think i need that so... sudo rm lost+found
[10:20] <eagles0513875> theadmin: dont remove it
[10:20] <eagles0513875> its there for a reson
[10:20] <alvin> !lost+found
[10:20] <theadmin> eagles0513875: Okay, let's just see what's inside :D
[10:21] <eagles0513875> hehe
[10:21] <d-eee> not cool, I tried to export/print to pdf and kword messed it up.  any way to rescue my document?
[10:21] <theadmin> eagles0513875: The real problem is, it was created on a USB-drive (vfat) which i have most certainly not ran any kind of checks on
[10:22] <eagles0513875> humm
[10:23] <theadmin> Except a virus-scan with Avast.
[10:24] <d-eee> sometimes  I wonder
[10:24] <unitypunk> rofl
[10:24] <d-eee> false flagging for real
[10:24] <d-eee> holla
[10:25] <theadmin> d-eee: Look for backup files, it's my only suggestion.They have the same name as original doc but with a "~" at the end of it
[10:26] <d-eee> theadmin: thanks.  It's just that I just needed to edit some of the page layout of a pdf, then when I export/print, the document 'could not be opened'
[10:40] <d-eee> everyday my birthday
[10:40] <d-eee> be easy
[11:02] <flavia> hi, how do I add a dock to a panel?
[11:03] <unitypunk> drag and drop didnt work?
[11:04] <unitypunk> errr rightclick
[11:04] <flavia> unitypunk: ah nevermind got it, tnx
[11:04] <unitypunk> ;)
[11:06] <unitypunk> chamonnn
[11:06] <unitypunk> almost done.
[11:15] <Shrey> hey i m not able to play song using audacious....pls help.
[11:19] <Shrey> hi....hey i m not able to play song using audacious..can u help..
[11:39] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[11:42] <ubott2> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[11:49] <mati> hello people
[11:49] <mati> can i ask you a question about NVIDIA graphics card?
[12:37] <riano> Help, help! heh. I seem to have trouble with my network beyond my own capabilities of solving. Since this morning I can no longer send data. Basically everything I need an outgoing transfer for, fails.
[12:55] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with an external HD? http://paste.ubuntu.com/267878/
[13:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:34] <linux> hi
[13:36] <david_> bonjour quelqu'un saurait comment installer un poste kubuntu dans un domaine de type scrib.?
[13:38] <david_> ts des loosers?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !fr | david_
[13:52] <zaduma> Hey everyone, I have a question, I need "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" to be ran at startup, how do i accomplish this?
[13:55] <zaduma> anyone?
[14:18] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[14:20] <alvin> zaduma: use /etc/rc.local to run stuff at startup. (Maybe not the best solution in your case. I don't know much about wireless)
[14:24] <Kiril> Hi, I am a novice, and I need an advice on how exactly to create new partitions when instaling Kubuntu 9.04
[14:27] <Kiril> I have win xp on my pc already
[14:28] <panos4ever> dont expect an answer if u have win xp
[14:28] <panos4ever> and u want to keep it
[14:28] <Kiril> why is that?
[14:29] <Gamarok__> !partitions
[14:29] <Kiril> msg/ !PartitionManager
[14:30] <Gamarok__> bye guys
[14:30] <Kiril> bye
[14:46] <cuznt> KDE 4.3 64 am having flash probs
[14:52] <cuznt> You have version 10,0,32,18 installed and yet it does not seem to work properly in my browser
[15:00] <ugur> hi all how can i safely remove nepomuk service
[15:06] <divx> hello
[15:13] <lighti3ulb> Why when I receive an url in a message in Kopete, does it try to contact the website?
[15:18] <whirleystar> folks, i did an update yesterday to knetworkmanager and now i can't access any wireless networks... has anyone else reported this and if so what was the fix?
[15:20] <whirleystar> oops sorry... kubuntu jaunty, 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[15:22] <BluesKaj> whirleystar, knetworkmanager or network management ..there's a difference
[15:28] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: hmm... i believe the update came in yesterday for knetworkmanager and since then the wireless doesn't work
[15:29] <lneves> Anyone can help me solving boot problems?
[15:30] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: is there some way i can confirm?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> whirleystar, afaik plasma-widget-network-manager is the default network manager on jaunty , if you are still using "knetworkmanager" then I'm not surprised that it doesn't work.
[15:40] <maik__> hi
[15:41] <maik__> hallo
[15:41] <maik__> hi
[15:42] <carlino> !list
[15:42] <kaoD> hi
[15:43] <kaoD> I've got a big problem installing Kubuntu... the description is too long, but you can read about it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7921673
[15:43] <kaoD> I'm tired of trying to solve ir
[15:43] <kaoD> *it
[15:48] <genii> kaoD: Is this some Asus motherboard with for instance some ICH (8,9,or 10) chipset?
[15:48] <kaoD> it's asus
[15:48] <kaoD> but I don't know about the chipset
[15:48] <coilette> I need to install "lcap" thats an L, but its not in apt-get under lcap.. anybody know the right package name, or maybe a site that has a list of package names?
[15:48] <kaoD> it could be
[15:49] <coilette> During an FTP server 'make' i get "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcap
[15:49] <genii> kaoD: Most Asus motherboards come with a bootable CD which you can boot to and then make the Windows floppy disk holding the raid/AHCI driver which during install of windows you can use when it says something like "Hit F6 to install other drivers"
[15:50] <kaoD> yeah, but I've got no floppy drive!
[15:50] <kaoD> that was my main problem
[15:50] <kaoD> anyways, it's weird that XP boots fine
[15:51] <kaoD> I can actually browse through the old ubuntu and the xp drive using Dolphin
[15:51] <kaoD> I can mount them
[15:51] <kaoD> fdisk lists them
[15:51] <genii> kaoD: Nah. I had the same issue with a P5K-SE
[15:51] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: when i terminate knetworkmanager and place a network management plasmoid on my desktop an oldschool cellphone image appears and a tooltip pops up and says it is changing and is highly unstable
[15:51] <kaoD> I think that's my MB
[15:51] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: when i terminate knetworkmanager and place a network management plasmoid on my desktop an oldschool cellphone image appears and a tooltip pops up and says it is changing and is highly unstable
[15:52] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: when i terminate knetworkmanager and place a network management plasmoid on my desktop an oldschool cellphone image appears
[15:52] <kaoD> so I have to reinstall XP's boot using ASUS's boot CD and then reinstall GRUB?
[15:52] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: sorry about the text deluge, i'm an idiot
[15:52] <genii> kaoD: You could also instead make a slip-streamed XP install cd if you have no floppy
[15:53] <kaoD> humm, I tried that, but it didn't work
[15:53] <kaoD> I think I slipstreamed it with the wrong drivers
[15:54] <kaoD> SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller
[15:54] <kaoD> that's my sata controller model?
[15:55] <kaoD> oh, ICH10
[15:55] <genii> kaoD: If it's a p5k-se then ich10 but uses ich9r driver
[15:56] <kaoD> ok, I'll give it a try, thank you!
[15:56] <genii> kaoD: np
[16:07] <BluesKaj> whirleystar, I've been recommending wicd network manager for those who have probs with the default one. Now I have both wicd and the default working on differnt machines , bur wicd seems tow ork on more hardware than the deafult.
[16:08] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | whirleystar
[16:10] <BluesKaj> whirleystar, let me rephrase that last part :  I have both wicd and the default working on different machines , but wicd seems to work on more hardware than the default.
[16:19] <konrad_> Using Kubuntu 9.04 I can only have sound from one program at a time. Is there a fix/setting somewhere I'm missing, or is it just bad compability with my mobo soundcard?
[16:30] <whirleystar> BluesKaj: Is there a gui for configuring wicd?  I'm looking at an empty wireless-settings.conf file, which is fine, but looking for a template if available
[16:30] <bentob0x> anybody has problems with the desktops/pager?
[16:30] <bentob0x> names aren't preserved for me
[16:31] <BluesKaj> whirleystar, look in the kmenu/apps/internet for the wicd gui
[16:58] <Bloodstar> Ho boy.
[16:59] <Bloodstar> I shut my netbook for the night (running 9.04)... just opened it now to find it on a blank screen and Caps Lock flashing.
[17:04] <Bloodstar> aha, figured out what it was
[17:18] <Rouser> I keep getting an error when I try to get SU status in the terminal, and I did a fresh install of Jaunty last night
[17:19] <Rouser> keeps saying incorrect password, even though i know it's right
[17:19] <Rouser> changed the password twice, still no dice
[17:19] <Rouser> any thoughts?
[17:20] <genii> Rouser: Use sudo -i               instead
[17:24] <replman> Hi! How to invert this regular expression: ^\ \ \ [a-zA-Z].*
[17:32]  * genii sips
[17:47] <ubuntu> kubuntu'da firefox yok mu?
[17:48] <hamit> var ubuntu
[17:48] <hamit> olmazmı
[17:48] <ubuntu> nerede live sesion ile göremedimde...
[17:49] <hamit> ubuntumu kubuntumu kullanıyorsun şu an
[17:49] <shadeslayer> hamit , ubuntu  this is a english channel
[17:49] <ubuntu> kubuntu live cd olarak
[17:52] <hamit_> !ping
[17:52] <hamit_> düşmüşüm
[17:52] <genii> !tr | hamit_
[17:52] <maik__> hi
[17:53] <maik__> ubuntuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[17:53] <hamit_> !firefox
[17:53] <ubuntu> insan bi firefox koyar konqueror zımbırtısı çok yavaş...
[17:53] <divx> konqueror ftw
[17:54] <hamit_> valla ben chromium kullanıyorum
[17:54] <genii> ubuntu , hamit_ .. /join #ubuntu-tr
[17:54] <ubuntu> adios ubuntu ile daha kullanışlı internete geçeyim...
[17:55] <superpinjal> ahh ..
[17:55] <divx> translator alert
[17:55] <superpinjal> tes tes
[17:55] <superpinjal> buzz buzz
[17:55] <ryan___> hi there - just a very quick and stupid question - how can I get the windows list back on the control-panel - (taskbar)
[17:55] <divx> whats a pinjal?
[17:55] <superpinjal> hihih .. long time I'm not using this IRC
[17:55] <superpinjal> really miss this chat session
[17:56] <divx> huh.
[17:56] <superpinjal> wehehehe ..
[17:56] <ryan___> I just clicked on close "window list" by accident and now I do not see how to get it back - kind of sucks :/
[17:57] <superpinjal> heheh .. if you're using Quassel IRC .. just click on "View"
[17:58] <superpinjal> then click on "Nicks"
[17:58] <ryan___> I am talking about the kubuntu taskbar
[17:59] <ryan___> the thing that shows you the time the kde symbol on the left etc.
[17:59] <divx> i like konversation better
[17:59] <superpinjal> what do you mean with windows list ?
[17:59] <superpinjal> it's a notification area ?
[17:59] <ryan___> if you open firefox and for example a irc client
[17:59] <superpinjal> okey ..
[17:59] <ryan___> then you get both of them listed  and you can click on them
[18:00] <divx> did you remove the task manager?
[18:00] <ryan___> nope only the open window list
[18:00] <divx> hmm
[18:00] <divx> check widgets, see if you can get it back
[18:00] <ryan___> thats a widget?
[18:00] <divx> everythin on the panel is a widget
[18:00] <ryan___> I am going to kill the devs if thats fo real
[18:00] <divx> :)
[18:01] <divx> even the kde symbol u spoke of
[18:01] <superpinjal> just choose yes .
[18:01] <superpinjal> widget
[18:01] <ryan___> lets see
[18:01] <divx> kay
[18:01] <ryan___> stupid devs not thinking of the stupin win users like me
[18:01] <ryan___> -n+d
[18:01] <superpinjal> wihihih ..
[18:01] <ryan___> last time I even closed the whole thing
[18:02] <ryan___> what a mess
[18:02] <shadeslayer> ryan___: every thing in KDE 4.x is widgets....
[18:02] <superpinjal> actually .. current linux .. is more humanable
[18:02] <shadeslayer> the desktop is plasma though :P
[18:03] <superpinjal> if you're using linux from the Redhat 5.x .. it's more suffer .. but very great to learn
[18:03] <divx> what do you use superpinjal? ^^
[18:04] <ryan___> plasma kind of sucks
[18:04] <divx> no it doesnt
[18:04] <ryan___> btw it worked - many thx :D
[18:04] <divx> yep ^^
[18:04] <ryan___> come on
[18:04] <ryan___> why can I not kill the nut up there on the desktop
[18:04] <ryan___> that sucks in plasma
[18:04] <ryan___> srsly
[18:04] <superpinjal> for my laptop .. ubuntu .. because now .. i'm just use it for scripting
[18:05] <superpinjal> but for my servers .. always trust on Redhat
[18:05] <superpinjal> :D
[18:05] <superpinjal> what do you mean with killing nut ?
[18:05] <ryan___> there is a macadamia nut on the desktop on the top right corner
[18:06] <superpinjal> oh .. wehehehehe
[18:06] <divx> never heard of that
[18:06] <ryan___> and I guess I cannot get rid of that or can I?
[18:06] <superpinjal> he means the widget divx
[18:06] <divx> gotcha
[18:06] <ryan___> sure the widget thingy
[18:06] <superpinjal> in the right corner right ?
[18:06] <ryan___> sure
[18:06] <divx> ubuntu gives me headaches >.>
[18:07] <divx> its just the color scheme i guess
[18:07] <ryan___> change it
[18:07] <superpinjal> you want to remove it ?
[18:07] <ryan___> sure
[18:07] <divx> i did
[18:07] <ryan___> if possible
[18:07] <divx> i found kubuntu satisfying
[18:07] <ryan___> would be so happy if its doable superpinjal
[18:08] <ryan___> but I guess without the nut you will go nuts when you try to undo stuff that screwed your gui
[18:09] <divx> what package manager do you guys use?
[18:10] <divx> i mean which
[18:10] <superpinjal> weheheh ..
[18:10] <divx> -.-
[18:10] <ryan___> synaptic
[18:10] <superpinjal> for removing it .. somebody create "i hate cashew"
[18:10] <divx> im using adept for now
[18:10] <ryan___> created?
[18:10] <superpinjal> but .. you need to understand first since it's permanen solution
[18:10] <superpinjal> yes .. created
[18:11] <divx> elaborate?
[18:11] <ryan___> what do I need to understand?
[18:11] <superpinjal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008042
[18:11] <superpinjal> read it first .. till over .. before you do that
[18:12] <ryan___> sure big thanks superpinjal :D
[18:12] <ryan___> ummd!
[18:12] <divx> you know the vlc player is kinda different in the fullscreen mode in kubuntu
[18:12] <ryan___> cause "i hate cashew"
[18:13] <superpinjal> yeps .. that's some impact ..
[18:15] <ryan___> hell kubuntu sucks a lot of juice out of the cells :/
[18:15] <superpinjal> hihiih
[18:15] <ryan___> and well it looks like as if it does not recognize that it runs on cell power right now :(
[18:16] <ryan___> "plugged in" <-- not at all mr kubuntu ;(
[18:16] <superpinjal> humm i think it's related with bug on battery
[18:16] <superpinjal> something that already fixed on 8.10
[18:16] <ryan___> any workaround for that?
[18:16] <ryan___> I installed 9.04 today
[18:16] <superpinjal> wops ..
[18:17] <superpinjal> wihihihi .. mine no problem ..
[18:17] <ryan___> wops indeed ;(
[18:17] <ryan___> dell studio 15 here
[18:17] <superpinjal> dell M1330 mine
[18:17] <ryan___> at least I can use it to keep my hands warm during winter
[18:17] <ryan___> :|
[18:18] <ryan___> hell I really need to do something about the power management
[18:18] <ryan___> it sucks 1percent per minut
[18:18] <ryan___> +e
[18:19] <ryan___> and I cannot dim the display
[18:19] <ryan___> the slider is moving but the screen is not responding - what am I missing?
[18:19] <divx> is alive
[18:20] <unitypunk> is there a way to run dolphin as root?
[18:21] <ryan___> unitypunk: just enter sudo dolphin into your console
[18:21] <unitypunk> oh duh
[18:21] <unitypunk> lol
[18:22] <unitypunk> thanks :)
[18:22] <unitypunk> for not cfalling me rtarded
[18:22] <superpinjal> Ryan
[18:22] <superpinjal> can you type this "sudo acpi -v"
[18:22] <ryan___> sure can I type this - but should I :D
[18:23] <unitypunk> its only gonna tell you the version of acpi..
[18:23] <unitypunk> i can superpinjal
[18:23] <unitypunk> o.o9
[18:23] <ryan___> damn "command not found"
[18:23] <ryan___> that sounds not good
[18:23] <unitypunk> rofl
[18:24] <superpinjal> wehehehe
[18:24] <ryan___> guess I am missing something vital here
[18:24] <superpinjal> install it first
[18:24] <superpinjal> nops ..
[18:24] <unitypunk> i think acpi is mostly used with laptops..
[18:24] <ryan___> :| doh...
[18:24] <ryan___> me2
[18:24] <ryan___> but why is it not installed :/
[18:24] <superpinjal> acpi .. is only to see the batteries condition through command line
[18:24] <superpinjal> wehehehe .. dunno
[18:24] <superpinjal> :D
[18:24] <divx> excuse me, can anyone tell me whats the best proxy client on kubuntu?
[18:24] <unitypunk> see.
[18:24] <ryan___> *grml*
[18:24] <unitypunk> heh
[18:25] <unitypunk> superpinjal:  i dont like seeing my battery.
[18:25] <ryan___> acpi here I come
[18:25] <unitypunk> i get less then an hour out of it
[18:25] <unitypunk> and its less then a year ol
[18:25] <unitypunk> actually a litttle over.
[18:25] <superpinjal> maybe need to buy new battery .. wehehehe *lol
[18:25] <superpinjal> :D
[18:26] <superpinjal> okey .. so Ryan ..
[18:26] <unitypunk> windows 7 says there are things wrong with it.
[18:26] <unitypunk> and my computer may terminate unexpectedly. lol
[18:26] <superpinjal> the reason to use those command is :
[18:26] <superpinjal> to see if your laptop can recognize on your battery condition ..
[18:26] <ryan___> acpi installed sir
[18:27] <ryan___> v1.2
[18:27] <superpinjal> and if it's proven using command line .. so the problem is only in the  power-management widget
[18:27] <superpinjal> okey ..
[18:27] <superpinjal> sudo acpi -V
[18:27] <superpinjal> with your power plugged in
[18:27] <ryan___> done that
[18:27] <ryan___> oh allright
[18:27] <unitypunk> wow
[18:28] <unitypunk> 10.6MBps
[18:28] <superpinjal> and then .. same command with your power plugged out
[18:28] <unitypunk> usb 2 to usb2..
[18:28] <ryan___> done
[18:28] <superpinjal> did you see any differences ?
[18:28] <ryan___> I hope its normal that it shows the same info
[18:28] <superpinjal> when pluuged in and plugged out ?
[18:29] <unitypunk> did you unplug your battery.
[18:29] <ryan___> sure
[18:29] <unitypunk> lol
[18:29] <ryan___> it just says v1.2 and some disclaimer info
[18:29] <ryan___> what should change?
[18:30] <ryan___> omg
[18:31] <ryan___> you wrote -V not -v
[18:31] <unitypunk> ?
[18:31] <ryan___> doh :/
[18:31] <superpinjal> -V
[18:31] <superpinjal> this is what i got in my laptop
[18:31] <ryan___> -? <-- helps a lot
[18:31] <superpinjal> during plugged IN :
[18:31] <superpinjal> sudo acpi -V
[18:31] <superpinjal>      Battery 0: Charging, 61%, 01:52:02 until charged
[18:31] <superpinjal> ...
[18:32] <superpinjal> and this was during plugged out :
[18:32] <superpinjal> sudo acpi -V
[18:32] <superpinjal>      Battery 0: Discharging, 61%, rate information unavailable
[18:32] <genii> ryan___: kdesudo for KDE graphical apps and not just sudo, for future reference
[18:32] <superpinjal> it showed charge and discharged
[18:32] <ryan___> ty genii
[18:32] <unitypunk> sudo] password for unitypunk:
[18:32] <unitypunk>      Battery 1: charged, 100%
[18:32] <unitypunk>      Thermal 1: hot passive , 102.0 degrees C
[18:32] <unitypunk>      Thermal 2: ok, 66.0 degrees C
[18:32] <unitypunk>   AC Adapter 1: on-lin
[18:32] <FloodBotK1> unitypunk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:32] <unitypunk> wahhh
[18:33] <ryan___> hehe
[18:33] <ryan___> the flood :D
[18:33] <genii> unitypunk: We DO have pastebin for just such occasions :)
[18:33] <unitypunk> oh genii i have my own.
[18:33] <unitypunk> only ment to pasted the first line.
[18:33] <unitypunk> i apologise.
[18:33] <genii> unitypunk: No worries
[18:33] <ryan___> the acpi works perfectly now
[18:33] <unitypunk> 102 degrees celcius.
[18:34] <superpinjal> okey ..
[18:34] <unitypunk> that seems pretty hot.
[18:34] <ryan___> crappy windows never told me how much time it will take to recharge
[18:34] <superpinjal> so .. if ACPI fine .. so the problem is in power-namanegement widget
[18:34] <ryan___> sweet
[18:34] <ryan___> yes the widget is the problem
[18:34] <superpinjal> yeps ..
[18:34] <unitypunk> crappy windows wont even tell me how much time is left in my battery.
[18:34] <unitypunk> only what percent of charge lol
[18:35] <ryan___> win7 does that pretty well unitypunk
[18:35] <unitypunk> nope
[18:35] <ryan___> ar least for me
[18:35] <ryan___> at
[18:35] <unitypunk> even win7 only shows percentage.
[18:35] <unitypunk> i think my battery is defective.
[18:35] <ryan___> maybe
[18:35] <superpinjal> weheheh .. come on guys .. you shall know this since the 1st era of *NIX
[18:35] <superpinjal> :D
[18:35] <ryan___> :P
[18:35] <ryan___> ubergeek!
[18:35] <ryan___> detected!
[18:36] <ryan___> so mr superpinjal - what do we do about my bad widget
[18:36] <superpinjal> hihihi
[18:36] <ryan___> shall we kick his ass :D
[18:36] <superpinjal> yes ..
[18:36] <unitypunk> sell it to the pimps at the club
[18:36] <unitypunk> thenfind a new one.
[18:36] <ryan___> they think Im bonkers ;(
[18:36] <superpinjal> just disable it .. and perhaps if you patient .. just wait for the fix
[18:36] <superpinjal> wekekekek
[18:37] <ryan___> disable it? like put it out of sight and forget about it?
[18:37] <unitypunk> man
[18:37] <unitypunk> on my desktop theres some stoner eyes.
[18:37] <ryan___> like my career in entertainment business ;(
[18:37] <superpinjal> cause .. i never use powermanegement widget
[18:37] <unitypunk> cant find them on here..
[18:37] <ryan___> but what else can show me the cell percentage...
[18:38] <ryan___> I mean that works...at least
[18:38] <unitypunk> ryan
[18:38] <ryan___> yes unitypunk
[18:38] <unitypunk> set your screen to go to 5% brightne battery
[18:38] <unitypunk> wow
[18:38] <ryan___> if the slider would work
[18:38] <unitypunk> 5%brightness at 15% battery
[18:38] <unitypunk> then when your screen starts dimming
[18:38] <unitypunk> find a wall!
[18:39] <ryan___> no walls here I am in the park
[18:39] <unitypunk> theres usualy a little silver box
[18:39] <unitypunk> ontop of a silver pole
[18:39] <zipito> can someone help me with fonts? in the KDE mine fonts at size of 8 looks great- in the GTK applications - they are ugly - no hinting :(
[18:39] <unitypunk> open that thing up
[18:39] <unitypunk> black is negative
[18:39] <ryan___> you scare me unitypunk
[18:39] <unitypunk> green is ground.
[18:39] <unitypunk> white/red is well.
[18:39] <unitypunk> positive :D
[18:40] <unitypunk> used to hook our stereo up at the park like that.
[18:40] <ryan___> am I missing a driver for my screen or whats the problem
[18:40] <rezonans19> hello
[18:40] <syrius> when I use komopozer it crashes when I select font in the menu in gnome ubuntu 9.04
[18:41] <rezonans19> need help --- how i can install .run package in kubuntu?
[18:42] <abhifx> where can i find the latest phonon backend for xine with equaliser patch
[18:42] <BluntedBoyWonder> hello all, what is a good kubuntu alternative for itunes, especially with regards to podcast feeds and ipod synching (i have an ipod shuffle 2nd gen)
[18:43] <zipito> rezonans19,  typically chmod +x mine.run and then ./mine.run in konsole
[18:44] <rezonans19> thanks
[18:46] <Astine> Is there a way to change the screen resolution of e16 before loading it?
[18:46] <Astine> The font is so small I can't read anything once I boot into it.
[18:49] <Bearcat> hello all. i have a strange problem on a cliets computer that is running kubuntu 9.04 and kde 4.2.2.  THere are no menus (file..edit..view..) in any kde app.  I've tried cntrl-m, i've tried switching styles, looking for kicker, looking for an osx menu thing in case it's on. I've changed MenuBar=Disabled to MenuBar=Enabled in a few app configs and that makes no difference. I'd love some ideas
[18:54] <abhifx> where can i find the latest phonon backend for xine with equaliser patch
[18:55] <BluntedBoyWonder> Bearcat: I would lvoe to be technicallyy savvy enough to help you with that problem, alas I am not
[18:56] <genii> !kicker
[18:56] <genii> Hm
[18:56] <Bearcat> BluntedBoyWonder: i appreciate it.
[19:09] <rai> hi guys
[19:10] <rai> need some help..  i lost my connection manager icon in my sceen..
[19:10] <rai> how can i get it back
[19:10] <rai> help please
[19:15] <BluesKaj> rai, open the widget manager and add from there
[19:21] <davidjheinrich> does anyone here have any idea how to make a bash script to find out when there is a .ORF file in a folder, but no corresponding .JPG, to delete the .ORF? I.e., if there is an A.ORG but no A.JPG, I want to delete the A.ORF
[19:51] <pen1234> http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2042&l=1357&u_id=363435
[19:54] <pen1234> http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2042&l=1357&u_id=363435
[19:54] <genii> pen1234: No advertising in this channel
[20:06] <ryan___> oh well :(
[20:07] <dracnoc> wow, somebody turned up for the Win 7 party...
[20:07] <ryan___> I finally found I hate cashew and all it did is taking away the cashew from the taskbar ...
[20:09] <ryan___> I am going to try something else
[20:21] <totix> Is it possible to send a program to the background, shut down it's shell and bring it back to the forground in another shell?
[20:33] <biovirus> hi
[20:34] <biovirus> somebody can help me?
[20:36] <genii> !ask | biovirus
[20:37] <biovirus> i have a problem with kubuntu+youtube // i install the .deb flahs plugin but the video doesnt sound
[20:40] <genii> biovirus: Enable multiverse repository and suggested to install package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:04] <Scampi> Youplaboum muahahahaha ZIZI
[21:10] <biovirus> genii: your solution downt work :s, anything else??? :(
[21:19] <biovirus> i have a problem with kubuntu+youtube // the audio doesnt work but the video yes, what can i do???
[21:23] <ebovine> biovirus: Are you running 64 bit or 32 bit Kubuntu?
[21:24] <biovirus> i think 32, how can i be totally secure?
[21:24] <ebovine> From Konsole run "uname -a"
[21:25] <biovirus> Linux biovirus-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:26] <ebovine> That's 32bit.
[21:26] <ebovine> Are you running any other apps that have audio?
[21:26] <ebovine> Amarok, games, etc?
[21:27] <biovirus> mmmm, skype? pidgin?
[21:27] <ebovine> Skype could be the culprit.
[21:27] <ebovine> Some software isn't written to play nice with audio.
[21:27] <ebovine> Have you tried running youtube without Skype loaded?
[21:27] <biovirus> nop, but i can doit now
[21:28] <ebovine> You'll have to close all browser instances and re-launch them.
[21:28] <ebovine> Kill Skype first.
[21:29]  * biovirus is trying
[21:30] <biovirus> nop
[21:31] <biovirus> im thinking in the flash plugin i downloaded yesterday, the posibility exist?
[21:31] <ebovine> Is this youtube only or all flash?
[21:31] <ebovine> Youtube is a Flash application.
[21:31] <ebovine> Did you upgrade Flash through apt?
[21:31] <biovirus> mmmmm, nop, i installed flash with a .deb
[21:32] <ebovine> Where did you get the .deb?
[21:32] <biovirus> i dont rememberm, i think in the flash page
[21:33] <ebovine> I would try re-installing the *buntu version from the package manager and see if that fixes your problem.  You really have to want something specific to make it worth your time going outside the package manager.
[21:35] <biovirus> mmmm, i dont find the package manager :S
[21:35] <kblin> hi folks
[21:37] <kblin> I've recently switched from kubuntu 8.04 to 9.04. Is KDE4 enough of a ressource hog to explain that my system now feels like moving though jello, or is there something I can fix?
[21:39] <harjot_> where do i find startup logs?
[21:39] <Walex> kblin: there are mixed reports on KDE4. Some think it is faster, some slower.
[21:40] <Walex> kblin: but it could be that your graphics card does not support acceleration for all the cute new effects.
[21:40] <Walex> harjot_: depends what you mean by "startup logs". try '/var/log/dmesg' and ~/.xsession' for example for two totally different tpes.
[21:41] <kblin> Walex: I've got desktop effects disabled. but e.g. changing tabs in konsole takes between half a second and a second, depending on how much text is on the console switched to
[21:41] <harjot_>   /var/log
[21:42] <Walex> well, first thing run 'vmstat 1' in a Konsole and check whether there is lots of block IO or CPU usage.
[21:43] <Walex> kblin: if you have an nVidia card with the proprietary nVidia driver it used to have a large performance issue with AA fonts (RENDER extension accel)
[21:44] <kblin> no, I've got a radeon mobility x300.. this is a thinkpad r52
[21:44] <kblin> I can get the CPU usage to spike to 70% when switching konsole tabs
[21:46] <Walex> kblin: the 70% is regrettably pretty Kommon :-)
[21:47] <kblin> ugh
[21:47] <kblin> time to look for a lighter desktop env then
[21:47] <Walex> kblin: anyhow, not clear what to ask you to check. However #1 think then: make sure X is not using the "vesa" driver.
[21:47] <Walex> kblin: same on most. painting screens is CPU bound. Some do it a bit better though.
[21:47] <biovirus> ebovine: i should install this??->> flashplugin-installer
[21:49] <ebovine> biovirus: Yes.
[21:49] <kblin> Walex: I'm pretty sure it should be the radeon driver
[21:49] <Walex> kblin: check with 'sudo grep /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:49] <biovirus> ebovine: anything else i have to install?
[21:50] <ebovine> biovirus: It will resolve the dependencies for you.
[21:50] <kblin> Walex: thanks, I was busy gaping at my empty xorg.conf
[21:50] <ebovine> Another reason the package manager is so good.  :)
[21:50] <kblin> Walex: yup, radeon all right
[21:51] <biovirus> ebovine: ok, the install is done, im trying now
[21:52] <biovirus> ebovine: :( HAHAHAH :'(
[21:54] <biovirus> ebovine: what can i do ¿?
[21:55]  * kblin goes to check if gnome-terminal is more responsive
[21:55] <Walex> kblin: check whether 'xterm' is more responsive.
[21:55] <kblin> that'd be my next stop
[21:55] <kblin> but gnome-terminal has tabs I can switch
[21:55] <Walex> kblin: more precisely check that with 'xterm -fn' and 'xterm -fa' so you know whether the issue is AA related.
[21:57] <kblin> gnome-terminal is fine, and use way less CPU
[21:58] <ebovine> biovirus: Is the audio still not working?
[21:58] <ebovine> biovirus: And did you close all your browser windows and re-open them?
[21:59] <biovirus> ebovine: yes but it doesnt work
[21:59] <biovirus> :S
[21:59] <Walex> kblin: then it may be the dreaded RENDER performance bug.
[21:59] <kblin> Walex: I take that's on launchpad?
[21:59] <ebovine> biovirus: I hate to say it, but you might try rebooting.  Don't load up any apps when you reboot except your browser and give it a shot.
[22:00] <Walex> kblin: but check out the various Konsole rendering options -- maybe there is one enabled that uses a slow bit of the "radeon" driver.
[22:00] <Walex> kblin: that is part of general KDE lore, nothing Ubuntu specific.
[22:01] <biovirus> ebovine: but how can i reboot without open apps if the kubuntu starts all apps i've open when i shutdown?
[22:01] <n00bjabi> is it normal for a fresh install kubuntu to have graphical glitches in a lot of menus, and have horrible performance overall...
[22:01] <kblin> n00bjabi: I'm seeing that as well
[22:02] <zvonkorp> i thought it was because i've been awake for 4 days straight - but something's up...
[22:02] <zvonkorp> ugh.. what the heck
[22:02] <ebovine> biovirus: If you close them before you reboot they won't open again when you log in.  KDE attempts to restore your session when you log back in.
[22:02] <zvonkorp> so is this... fixable? or should i just go back to ubuntu
[22:02] <kblin> zvonkorp: Walex just gave me a good hint I'm currently trying
[22:02] <biovirus> ok, i'll try it, see you in a minute
[22:02] <zvonkorp> is it hardware related?
[22:03] <kblin> Walex: seems like turning off font smoothing makes konsole look more ugly, but at least i can now type without witing for my text to appear
[22:03] <Walex> kblin: yes, that'd RENDER all right. Weird though I thought it only happened with nVidia drivers.
[22:04] <zvonkorp> how would i go about updating my hardware drivers then
[22:04] <Walex> kblin: you can get nice fonts that don't need font smoothing. if you enable the bytecode interpreter in FreeType.
[22:04] <kblin> yeah, I can cope with that
[22:04] <zvonkorp> i r new to linux, but this laptop ran vista/7 great, and had no problems with ubuntu - is this just how much more strenuous KDE is?
[22:04] <Walex> kblin: I am one of those that detest font smoothing as it makes fonts bolder and fuzzier.
[22:05] <kblin> Walex: I'm not too fond of dejavu sans either
[22:05] <Walex> zvonkorp: no, KDE tends to be farly efficient, but some effects stress unoptimized parts of the video card driver.
[22:05] <kblin> zvonkorp: for me, I seem to have fixed it by turning off font smoothing
[22:05] <Walex> kblin: Actually DejaVu renders pretty well, it i fairly well hinted.
[22:06] <Walex> kblin: but to enable the hints you need the bytcode-enabled FreeType library.
[22:06] <kblin> right
[22:06] <zvonkorp> disable anti aliasing on fonts?
[22:06] <zvonkorp> i did that, it just looks like balls now - the performance seems to be unchanged...
[22:08] <kblin> zvonkorp: for me it was font smoothing on konsosle->Settings
[22:10] <zvonkorp> it fixed your problem? isn't font smoothing = anti aliasing? do you have an older version?
[22:10] <biovirus> ebovine: are you?
[22:10] <zvonkorp> i found my fix - unchecked the window decoration blending of title bar colors
[22:11] <ebovine> biovirus: I'm still here.
[22:11] <biovirus> ebovine: nothing, im reboot without apps and it still not working
[22:11] <ebovine> Have you tried audio with any other flash application?
[22:12] <biovirus> explain, plz
[22:12] <kblin> Walex: thanks, switching on font smoothing makes the fonts look decent again, without the slowdown the other option incurred
[22:13] <Walex> kblin: that's cool. Try also the MS web core fonts, they are hinted even better than DejaVu.
[22:13] <zvonkorp> was it the window decoration blending for you as well?
[22:13] <ebovine> biovirus: Do you get sound for this game: http://onslaught.playr.co.uk/
[22:14] <zvonkorp> ... how do i uninstall programs in kubuntu 9.04 - the package manager only lists ones i can install, and anything i install i can't see through the gui, terminal all day every day?
[22:14] <kblin> zvonkorp: nope. for me it was the font smoothing setting in konsole..
[22:14] <Walex> kblin: also, you might want to apply the same setting to the general set of KDE fonts in the Kontrol Center.
[22:15] <Walex> zvonkorp: you can use Synpatic or aptitude and they list both installed and available packages.
[22:15] <zvonkorp> oh, kpackage kit was sucking. right on man
[22:16] <biovirus> ebovine: not but the game is interesting =DDD
[22:17] <kblin> Walex: good point
[22:17] <ebovine> biovirus: Are you running firefox for your browser?
[22:17] <ebovine> Or Konqueror?
[22:18] <biovirus> ff
[22:18] <ebovine> Type 'about:plugins' in your browser.
[22:18] <ebovine> What version of the Shockwave Flash plugin does it say is loaded?
[22:19] <biovirus>     Nombre de archivo: libflashplayer.so
[22:19] <biovirus>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[22:20] <Zuz|Work> !pastebin
[22:21] <ebovine> biovirus: Sounds like you have the right Flash plugin loading at this point.  I'm not sure what I can do from here, though.  There's obviously something competing or conflicting with your audio driver, but I don't have the tools to help you figure out what it is.
[22:22] <zvonkorp> ok last thing that's bugging me, my interface still gets corrupt when scrolling up and down
[22:22] <kblin> zvonkorp: on what programs?
[22:23] <biovirus>     Nombre de archivo: libflashplayer.so
[22:23] <biovirus>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[22:23] <zvonkorp> i havent used any programs yet, i'm still in the system settings
[22:23] <biovirus> sory
[22:23] <zvonkorp> graphical glitches pretty often in most windows
[22:23] <kblin> oh, weird
[22:23] <biovirus> ebovine: thnks for all, im keep searching info about it
[22:23] <ebovine> biovirus: Good luck.
[22:23] <biovirus> ebovine: thnks very much for your time
[22:24] <kblin> all my graphics glitches are gone now that I turned off that font smoothing setting
[22:24] <zvonkorp> what font are you using, i turned mine off and it looked like balls
[22:24] <kblin> dejavu sans, with http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/enable-smooth-fonts-on-ubuntu-linux/
[22:25] <Walex> zvonkorp: you nedd to enable the byteinterpreter...
[22:25] <zvonkorp> can you explain where that option is?
[22:25] <kblin> see the url
[22:25] <zvonkorp> accidentally closed plasma dashboard, command to restart?
[22:25] <us3r> hi!
[22:26] <us3r> anybody can hlep me compiling tuxguardian?
[22:26] <us3r> I get this error when doing "make":In Datei, eingefügt von /home/user/Apps/tuxguardian-0.5/module/tg-defs.h:31,
[22:26] <us3r>                  von /home/user/Apps/tuxguardian-0.5/module/tg-defs.c:25:
[22:26] <us3r> /home/user/Apps/tuxguardian-0.5/module/tg.h:28:26: Fehler: linux/config.h: No such file or directory
[22:27] <kblin> us3r: apart from the lousy translation of make errors, you seem to be missing a header file
[22:27] <zvonkorp> ah - can i disable/uninstall plasma dashboard and still keep a taskbar?
[22:29] <us3r> kblink: thnkas for the quick answer. I'm on kubuntu 2.6.28-15 and I have linux-headers-2.6.28-15-gener-15.49 installed
[22:29] <us3r> and the same without "gener"
[22:31] <us3r> the tuxguardian site says I nead kernel-sources and kernel-headeers. So I have the headers, but when I searched for kernel-sources I did not find anything useful and google told me that in ubuntu  the kernel-sources are kernel-headers - but the tux-sites mentiones BOTH of them
[22:31] <zvonkorp> oh jeez, i just permanentely fuxored my gui lol
[22:32] <kblin> us3r: try installing build-essential
[22:32] <us3r> kblin:did that already too
[22:33] <us3r> 11.4
[22:33] <kblin> us3r: ok, no idea about that piece of software
[22:34] <us3r> ok, thank you anyways kblin!
[22:34] <kblin> apart from the opinion that configure should catch and complain about errors like that :)
[22:35] <us3r> kblin the readme says: install the dependencies, become root and do 'make' - that'S it. there isn't even a configure file
[22:35] <kblin> oh
[22:39] <us3r> are there other kernel-sources, other than in build-essential and in the headers?
[23:20] <Lamo> wheres the option to add delete to right click?
[23:22] <Lamo> my right click move to trash does nothing
[23:22] <Lamo> the notification just hangs
[23:23] <Lamo> also where is the trash at?
[23:23] <Wreckage> trash:/ i think
[23:24] <Lamo> found delete and adding it
[23:24] <Lamo> works fine
[23:24] <Lamo> but move to trash does nothing
[23:25] <Lamo> even drag and dropping into trash does nothing
[23:48] <rav> hello. i have key combinations assigned to khotkeys, but when i press them, nothing happens. is this a bug?
[23:58] <LuisJa> OH MY GOD, sun java jre6 was actu today but i am not still able to play runescape because it says i am playing in unsigne mode, thx to this i cant play in HD and i have an inmense lag, WHATS GOING ON?! i waited like 5 days for this actu for nothing