[14:02] <mpt> Hi, is there any way within a help file I can tell whether the environment is Gnome or UNR?
[14:02] <mpt> well, gnome-panel or UNR, more precisely
[15:20] <mpt> Anyone awake in this channel? :-)
[15:20] <mpt> I'd like some help with cross-reference links if possible
[15:35] <alourie> mpt: awake, yes :-)
[15:35] <mpt> Specifically, how do I link from an application's standalone help file to the Gnome "Customizing the Panel Menubar" help page?
[15:39] <alourie> I'd guess it would need to be a link to yelp
[15:40] <shaunm> mpt: in general, to link to another document, use ghelp: URIs
[15:40] <shaunm> but conditional stuff, like determining what desktop you're running under, not possible
[15:41] <mpt> shaunm, I have no idea what the ghelp: URI for that page is, or how I'd find it out, or which DocBook linking element I'd use.
[15:41] <mpt> Is it <xlink>?
[15:41] <shaunm> ulink
[15:42] <mpt> oh, no such thing as xlink, I was thinking of xref
[15:42] <shaunm> ghelp:user-guide?some-id
[15:42] <mpt> ok, ulink, thanks
[15:42] <shaunm> to link to a page in the user guide.  you'll have to look at the user-guide xml to find an id to use
[15:45] <mpt> ok, found the file, goseditmainmenu.xml
[15:46] <mpt> <section id="menu-editor">
[15:47] <mpt> So, <ulink url="ghelp:menu-editor">repeat the title of the page</ulink>
[15:49] <mpt> aha, <ulink url="ghelp:user-guide?menu-editor">Customizing the menu bar</ulink>
[15:49] <mpt> thanks muchly shaunm