[12:21] <EricInBNE> It was suggested in #ubuntu-devel I ask what is the status of mobile-karmic-android-execution-environment? 
[12:22] <EricInBNE> Id like to contribute to this projekt.
[12:56] <lool> EricInBNE: Good question
[12:56] <lool> EricInBNE: I'm not sure who's working on that in Ubuntu
[12:57] <lool> EricInBNE: But some Canonical OEM folks worked on it a while ago
[12:57] <lool> ChickenCutClass and DebbieFoghorn
[12:57] <lool> this represents some of the UDS discussions on the topic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/AndroidExecutionEnvironment
[13:34] <EricInBNE> http://mjfrey.blogspot.com/
[13:35] <EricInBNE> lool, I sent that guy an email but he ignored it
[13:38] <lool> EricInBNE: I'm afraid these are busy people  :-/
[13:38] <lool> EricInBNE: are you familiar with ubuntu packaging and/or android alrready?
[13:39] <EricInBNE> yeah I write code for android. 
[13:39] <EricInBNE> looks like no pkgs in karmic-koala-beta5 either.
[13:39] <lool> Ok; so my memory of where things stood is quite faint at this point
[13:40] <lool> EricInBNE: Basically I recall a demo at UDS where each android app was running in its own environment
[13:40] <lool> with toplevel panel in each window
[13:40] <lool> One dalvik per app
[13:41] <lool> that was heavy and not really nice since you didnt get much android/ubuntu integration
[13:41] <lool> I understand the bulk of the effort was into patching android bits to build under ubuntu and in particular getting it to build with glibc
[13:41] <wutzara> i'm interessted in using the moblin interface. But the original moblin wont work on a CeleronM-processor. It is possible, that the ubuntu moblin remix work on such a processor?
[13:41] <lool> also, they used some kernel patches but not all of them
[13:42] <lool> EricInBNE: What was your goal exactly?  Running android apps under ubuntu?
[13:42] <lool> wutzara: it does yes
[13:42] <EricInBNE> lool: I run an android startup about 5 engineers. we'd love to have our app running on ubuntu. 
[13:42] <lool> wutzara: We're building our packages for the usual Ubuntu architectures, the daily image is an i386 one and supports 586+ or 686+ so celeron m is definitely supported
[13:43] <EricInBNE> we are writing quite a bit of open source code at the moment
[13:43] <lool> EricInBNE: That's excellent
[13:43] <lool> EricInBNE: Well it's still a little early for Michael/Debbie (they are on the East Coast) but I'll try getting in touch with them to see where things stand
[13:46] <EricInBNE> lool, cool. if Im asleep just /msg gambler (thats another entity of me that runs 24hrs)
[13:46] <wutzara> ok. Thats excellent. Is there a possibility to collaborate on the interface? or are there plans for an sdk or something?
[13:46] <lool> EricInBNE: ack
[13:46] <lool> wutzara: android or moblin?
[13:46] <wutzara> lool: moblin
[13:46] <lool> wutzara: what do you need an sdk for?
[13:46] <lool> I mean it's just regular ubuntu development style
[13:49] <wutzara> :) i dont know the regular ubuntu development style ;) i thought because the UI is something new, with many new librarys (clutter etc pp) so i thought it can be possible that a environment for development will be puplished ;)
[13:49] <lool> wutzara: it's the same environment
[13:49] <lool> wutzara: You can either develop from moblin or from regular ubuntu
[13:50] <EricInBNE> lool, it would be great if he just published his git or bzr tree somewhere...
[13:52] <wutzara> is it possible to make programs that integrate directly into the interface of moblin? for example i want a RSS Reader for the HomeZone
[14:16] <lool> wutzara: I bet it's absolutely doable
[14:16] <lool> wutzara: Check out what the existing applets do and do the same thing
[14:18] <wutzara> lool: ok thanks for the informations! at the moment i try to start the live-cd with my usb-stick. in my first attempt he said something about uncompression failure. Is it possible to run that iso from usb?
[14:19] <lool> wutzara: You cant dd the ISO to USB like the moblin images
[14:19] <lool> wutzara: You need to use usb-creator to write it to an USB stick
[14:19] <wutzara> i use the usb-creator from ubuntu.
[14:21] <lool> wutzara: that should work
[14:21] <lool> wutzara: so what's the issue exactly?
[14:21] <lool> Do you get the language menu?
[14:22] <wutzara> lool: yes i see the language menu and start only the live-cd without installation. then a uncompession failure stop the boot process. but maybe my stick was not clean so i decided to partition it new
[14:23] <wutzara> lool: now it works i see the bootbar
[14:36] <ogra> heh, bootbar ...
[14:37] <davmor2> I noticed something missing off of unr last night.  I went to click on network in order to connect to my samba share and it isn't there :(
[14:37]  * ogra remembers a user calling it "the worm" in a bug ... "my worm is only 1/4 long" :)
[14:45] <StevenK> davmor2: Does the same bug impact desktop?
[14:46] <davmor2> StevenK: no place->network is listed only on unr
[14:47] <davmor2> sorry should be a comma after listed
[14:50] <davmor2> StevenK: you can access it if you first open nautilus and then select network but I think it should be displayed under devices or something on the default system
[14:56] <StevenK> davmor2: File a wishlist bug against netbook-launcher
[14:56] <davmor2> StevenK: No probs
[19:28] <mdz> where is the equivalent of Places->Connect to server in UNR?
[20:29] <plars> mdz: I don't think there is one right now, unless you count doing it directly from nautilus
[20:31] <plars> mdz: should be pretty simple to add a menu item for nautilus-connect-server though
[20:48] <mdz> plars, thanks
[20:49] <plars> mdz: I don't *think* I've seen a bug on that one yet, but I can hunt around a bit an open one, unless you'd prefer to
[21:37] <playya> lool, ping
[22:00] <lool> playya: half pong
[22:00] <lool> playya: Just ask here or send an email, I might drop soon (11pm here)
[22:09] <playya> hehe. me too
[22:10] <playya> i just saw you are a gstreamer maintainer and want to ask sth about a patch
[22:11] <playya> gst_child_proxy_{set,get}_property checks to early for G_IS_VALUE(value)
[22:11] <playya> should i remove it completely or move it after the lookup lool ?