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RainCTUhm.. In a package version like X-Y+Z, what is Z?01:09
RainCTah, used for security updates?01:11
directhexRainCT, used for any situation where you want to increment X-Y without going all the way to X-(Y+1)01:26
directhexin theory, anyway01:26
desrtis it possible to have karmic and jaunty-targeted versions of a package (of the same name) in one PPA?01:56
desrtor should i make a second ppa?01:56
LaserJockyou can have them in the same PPA01:57
desrthow do i arrange for it to happen?01:57
LaserJockin your changes file you should set the release you want01:57
desrtfascinating01:58
desrtand i can just dput multiple separate ones and it will all be OK?01:58
LaserJockbah, changelog I meant01:58
LaserJockthe only thing is you can't upload the same version multiple times01:58
LaserJockso you can either 1) build for one release and then copy the binary using Launchpad's UI or 2) use different versions for each target, like ~jaunty1 and ~karmic101:59
LaserJockI'm a bit rusty though, maybe there's a better way out there that I don't know about02:00
mgunesGood day all.02:14
mgunesIs it a good idea to turn a needs-packaging bug for a package that has landed in Sid after Debian import freeze into a sync request and subscribe u-u-s?02:14
LaserJockwouldn't MOTU Release need to approve a FFe?02:15
ScottKmgunes: Not unless it's really important for some reason (like a package we already have in the archive won't build without it).02:26
moldyhi02:26
ScottKLaserJock is right about the FFe being needed now.02:26
ScottKhi moldy02:27
moldydo i understand this correctly: when i create a non-native package, i cannot have dashes in the upstream version?02:27
LaserJockI believe that's correct as the dash is the separator between upstream version and debian revision02:28
mgunesScottK, thanks; I was actually wondering how it would have worked before FF. Should have worded better.02:28
moldyLaserJock: ok, that sucks :(02:28
moldyLaserJock: python's setuptools seems to use dashes now by default...02:28
LaserJockthat's unfortunate02:28
moldyhm or no, wait, the error message actually does not say what i thought it did02:29
moldyok, let me rephrase my question: how do i create a native/non-native package?02:29
LaserJockmgunes: if it was prior to Debian Import Freeze you could just wait for it to be automatically synced02:29
ScottKmgunes: Before Debian Import Freeze they come in automatically, so no bug is required.  Between DIF and FF, packages can be asked for manually, but you shouldn't just ask for them all.02:29
LaserJockwhat ScottK said ;-)02:29
LaserJockmoldy: to create a non-native package you want to have the upstream tarbal as <package>_<upstream version>.orig.tar.gz02:30
LaserJock*tarball02:30
moldyLaserJock: that would be easy, but the paths *inside* the org.tar.gz also use the - ...02:32
mgunesWhat I was wondering, precisely, was whether it's OK to turn a needs-packaging bug from a past cycle into a sync request between DIF and FF. An example is bug #176548.02:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 176548 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] MyPaint" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17654802:32
moldyLaserJock: ah, never mind... those paths don't matter actually02:33
moldyok, then it's not as bad as i thought it was :) thanks for your help02:34
JontheEchidnapersonally I'd just file a new bug for the sync and then mark the needs-packaging as a dupe. It's less confusing for the archive admin that way02:34
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arandIs the syntax for dput different in intrepid compared to jaunty? dput ppa:arand/ppa file_source.changes don't work, but does in jaunty.03:11
ScottKShould be the same, but PPA does have some pecularities.  You might ask in #launchpad.03:17
lamalexconf issue?03:18
LaserJockarand: you're running dput from intrepid?03:18
micahgit seems like there are some config changes in teh changelog for dput for jaunty03:20
arandLaserJock: yes, it seems like only using "ppa" instead of "ppa:arand/ppa" will make it upload... to where I have no clue though...03:22
lamalexyou should define that in ~/.dput.conf03:24
LaserJockyeah, the ppa: syntax was not supported prior to Jaunty03:24
lamalexi didn't know that was possible, good to know03:25
arandaha, so I should add ppa.launchpad.net/arand/ppa to the config file? (is there a way to do this in the command itself without mucking with the config?03:26
LaserJockarand: I don't think so, I think that's why the ppa: syntax was added03:29
* ScottK stares at http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/karmic.html and wonders why people aren't busier.03:32
ScottKIf anyone wants to take a stab at fixing FTBFS, I'll be glad to provide assitance and advice.03:41
artfwoScottK, could you take a look at http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiFixes#qreal.28qMin.2CqMax.2CQt.29 ?03:43
artfwois there any other way without using static_cast?03:43
ScottKartfwo: I'll look, but the armel qreal stuff is generally beyond me.03:43
ScottKartfwo: NCommander is the guy you want to look at that.03:44
ScottKHe's who I ask on that stuff.03:44
artfwoI've got a picky FTBFS due to this type mismatch03:44
* ScottK looks around for an easier one.03:44
LaserJockScottK: what does "Failed to upload" mean?03:45
ScottKIt means it got built, but didn't upload to the archive.  The most common reason is a newer source was published before that build finished.  Others are likely bugs in LP.  Sometimes retries help (soyuz is, I hear, a mess of interrelated scripts that aren't very deterministic)03:46
arandHmm, I managed to dput something into ppa.launchpad.net with nothing else defined, is that anything to worry about, or do I jus force the upload to my own ppa (since it complains about it already being uploaded)?03:49
ScottKarand: rm the .upload file and try again.03:50
arandScottK: Ah, that simple...03:51
arandDone. ScottK: LaserJock: lamalex: Many thanks for your help.03:53
lamalexthere's a dput flag you can use to put if a .upload file exists also03:54
lamalexbut removing the .upload works just as well03:54
hyperair-f03:55
arandRight, I though the complaint was based on the server rather than local data, hence my precaution.03:56
NCommanderartfwo, you need to either cast the variable down or up04:32
artfwoNCommander, just replace foo with double(foo)?04:33
ScottKNCommander: Did you see my ping on KDE 4.3.1 with armel?04:33
NCommanderarand, that can work04:33
NCommanderer, artfwo04:33
NCommanderScottK, no04:33
ScottKNCommander: sebas helped me out and we are all built now.  Got netbook livd CD images for armel and everything.04:34
artfwookay, will try04:34
NCommanderScottK, nice04:34
ScottKNCommander: He pushed the fixes to kdesvn too.04:34
NCommander:-)04:34
quentusrexAnyone know why reprepro would only hav econtrib main and non-free directories? when in the ./conf/distributions file has the components: main restricted universe multiverse?05:25
quentusrexand I can't seem to get it add the last three components, only main...05:25
porthoseScottK, I was looking at pysvn, it is listed on qa.ubuntuwire.com as a FTBFS, it builds locally just fine, and it also builds in my ppa http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31520921/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.pysvn_1.7.0-1ubuntu1%7Ekarmicppa1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz05:41
porthoseis there anything else that needs to be done to this?05:41
ScottKporthose: I'll give it a retry then.05:51
ScottKporthose: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pysvn/1.7.0-1ubuntu1/+build/119472305:53
ScottKIf that works, ping me and I'll retry the rest tomorrow.  If not, install pgkbinarymangler in your pbuilder or ppa and see what happens.05:53
porthoseScottK, ok :)06:02
fabrice_spporthose, just in case youy dind't saw it: it FTBFS06:06
porthosefabrice_sp, yes just noticed that :(06:06
fabrice_spit seems that you're missing the --install-layout=deb in the setup.py call06:07
fabrice_sp(this is the most common root cause of this error)06:07
* porthose goes and looks06:09
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fabrice_spCan somebody unsubscribe u-u-s from bug #283213?06:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283213 in openmovieeditor "Please merge gmerlin-avdecoder 1.0.0-0.2 from Debian Multimedia (Stable)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28321306:24
dholbachgood morning06:58
fabrice_spHey dholbach ! Good morning07:00
dholbachhiya fabrice_sp07:00
fabrice_spby the way, dholbach: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FabriceCoutadeur/MOTUApplication07:07
fabrice_sp:-)07:08
dholbachwoohooo07:10
dholbach:-)))07:10
fabrice_sphave to go. Bye07:20
porthoseHA, got pysvn to build, I'll file a bug with diff tomorrow it's getting late and time for bed :)08:05
kaushalhi08:29
kaushalI am faced with the problem as described here http://paste.ubuntu.com/267433/08:29
porthoseDoes MOTU-Release need to ack a FTBFS fix?  The only changes made where to rules, control, and changelog08:46
randomactionno08:52
porthoserandomaction, thx08:52
porthoseWould a kind MOTU please have a look at bug #426677.  Ok *now* it's time for bed09:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 426677 in pysvn "pysvn FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42667709:01
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slytherinDoes anyone know the reason why metacity would show borderless windows?09:24
geseris metacity running?09:27
geserI usually see borderless windows when metacity is not running (or any other window manager)09:27
slytheringeser: I am trying to take screnshots inside pbuilder chroot. I am using xvfb for that. I have metacity as build dep I assumed it must be running automatically.09:29
slytheringeser: Oh, wait. The code that takes screenshots also launches metacity.09:30
slytherinAnd the same problem is observed even with other WMs like xfwm4, fluxbox.09:30
christoph_debianit's probably quite obvious but whats wrong there -> 'ubuntutools.lp.udtexceptions.SeriesNotFoundException: Error: Unknown Ubuntu release: 'karmic'.'09:55
geserhmm10:00
geserdoes it happen again? it looks like edge has currently some issues again10:01
christoph_debiangeser: nope it's fine this time10:02
christoph_debianok sync request on the way10:03
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slytheringeser: Any other idea about reason for borderless windows?10:35
Q-FUNKcat /etc/issue | awk '{print $1}'10:41
Q-FUNKhowdy!  what could be used to eliminate white space in the above command's output?10:41
LaneyQ-FUNK: tr -d?10:43
Laneyawk is probably clever enough to do it but I am not clever enough to work awk10:43
Q-FUNK:)10:44
Q-FUNKright, tr might work, but it requires defining exactly what we're looking for e.g. space, tab, etc.10:46
Q-FUNKtr -d [:space:]10:48
sorenQ-FUNK: awk '/./ {print $1}'10:49
sorenQ-FUNK: (/./ makes it only handle non-empty lines)10:49
Q-FUNKah, good to know10:52
Q-FUNKthanks! :)10:52
DktrKranzmok0: could you please look at bug #421825?11:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 421825 in merkaartor "merkaartor: Ubuntu mess contains embedded code copies, non-distributable files, missing debian/copyright update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42182511:07
toabctlhi all11:07
toabctli try to cross-compile the kernel with: ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnu- make -j4 zImage11:08
toabctl/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnu-ld: no machine record defined11:08
toabctl/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnu-ld: no machine record defined11:08
toabctlmake: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Fehler 111:08
toabctl^^ that is the error: can anybody help?11:08
Laney#ubuntu-kernel is probably better11:08
mok0DktrKranz: looking...11:18
funkyHatWeird, I just had a patch for brasero sponsored (just adding a dependancy), and I had an email from rosetta@launchpad.net telling me I uploaded a translation template!11:18
funkyHatIs that normal? :)11:18
mok0DktrKranz: yes :-(11:19
mok0DktrKranz: big mistake on my part11:19
dpmfunkyHat: you might want to ask at #launchpad if you don't get an answer here11:21
geserfunkyHat: that's normal for package in main11:21
funkyHatgeser: ok :)11:22
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DktrKranzmok0: it will probably become syncing material, but please let's keep it on the radar for karmic.12:49
mok0DktrKranz: I a working on a down-grade12:49
mok0DktrKranz: there's a regression too12:50
* mok0 kicks self12:50
christoph_debianhm -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/micropolis-activity/0.0.20071228-3/+build/1209922 -- what's going wrong there?13:34
DktrKranzchristoph_debian: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31536021/upload_1209922_log.txt13:40
DktrKranz2009-09-09 12:18:36 ERROR   Unhandled exception processing upload -> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31536018/rdGkZnCNfI7aiF5hqHGAfYtaCHz.txt (The email address 'fuddl@debian.org' is already registered.)13:40
christoph_debianjep I got that via mail13:41
blackxoredhello13:46
geserchristoph_debian: know bug, let me find the bug number13:47
christoph_debiangeser: the important thing is, can I just ignore it?13:47
geserchristoph_debian: bug 40852813:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 408528 in soyuz "Packages build but fail to upload due to email address issue" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40852813:48
geseryou can ignore it but then the package doesn't get into the archive13:48
christoph_debianand what do I do to get it in?13:49
gesera work around is to do a no-change -Xbuild1 upload13:50
christoph_debiangeser: from someone with upload rights?13:51
ScottKYes13:51
christoph_debianok so *I* can't do anything13:52
ScottKchristoph_debian: What package?13:52
ScottKOh.  I see it13:52
ScottKSeems odd it would only fail on one arch13:53
ScottKgeser: I think we should retry the one arch first.13:53
* ScottK does13:54
christoph_debianScottK: it failed on lots of arches13:55
christoph_debianjust took i386 as example13:56
* ScottK looks again13:56
ScottKchristoph_debian: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/micropolis-activity/0.0.20071228-2 says different13:56
ScottKchristoph_debian: I was on the wrong release. Sorry13:57
christoph_debianright mips is not among the failed13:57
geserScottK: -3 is recent not -213:57
geserScottK: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/micropolis-activity/0.0.20071228-313:57
christoph_debianbut I have lpia amd64 powerpc armel ...13:57
ScottKYes, just realised.13:57
geserthe https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/micropolis-activity page doesn't list the -3 yet (for whatever reason)13:58
ScottKI'll do the upload, unless you want to geser.14:00
geserif you have it already ready, then go14:01
ScottKJust test building.14:02
ScottKThen I'll upload.14:02
geserI'm pretty sure that it will build (else it wouldn't fail during upload)14:06
ScottKYes, but I'm cautious.14:08
ScottKgeser and christoph_debian: Uploaded.14:08
ScottKchristoph_debian: Thanks for letting us know about it.14:08
blackxoredhello folks14:11
blackxoredthere's a way to get rid of those statements on debian/rules which only uudecode a binary file???14:11
mok0blackxored: what do you mean?14:13
blackxoredmok0, please look here: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-java/azureus.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=cdd1c025a9a631c39c1b93f53fa38e72cb64eefc;hb=HEAD14:14
ScottKchristoph_debian: It got accepted on one arch, so that should mean it's all good.14:14
blackxoredI want to get rid of the build/azureus:: target14:14
blackxoredwhat only does it's do decode two png files14:14
mok0blackxored: are you sure they're not installed?14:14
blackxoredmok0, of course14:16
mok0blackxored: so they're not mentioned in any other debian/* file?14:16
blackxoredmok0, would you please take the link ;)14:17
mok0blackxored: I did14:17
mok0blackxored: but I can't see the other debian/ files14:17
blackxoredmok0, ok, then I tell you: of course, from the install file14:17
blackxoredjust hit debian in that page14:18
mok0blackxored: it they're mentioned in debian/install, then you shouldn't touch it14:18
blackxored[pkg-java/azureus.git] / debian / rules14:18
blackxored                                                     ^^^^^14:18
mok0blackxored: oh yeah, they are installed14:18
blackxoredmok0, so you are following now ;)14:18
mok0blackxored: I am14:19
blackxoredI want to end my debian/rules in the PATCHES_DIR statement, only variables and includes ;)14:19
blackxoredand I though if there might be some way to auto-decode this files14:19
blackxoredimplicitly14:19
mok0blackxored: you can't do that without screwing up the build14:19
mok0blackxored: the unpack structure is perfectly legitimate, it's used all over the place14:20
blackxoredmok0, it's hard to wait for 3.0 format :D anyways, mok0 thanks for your time, it was only a wishlist improvement14:20
blackxored;)14:20
mok0blackxored: don't hold your breath while waiting...14:21
blackxoredmok0, ;)14:21
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lbrinkmaHi all,16:50
lbrinkmaI want to get involved with MOTU. I have steped through the documentations on the motu wiki page. Now I don't know what to do next. Can someone please show me an easy to fix bug for me as an beginner?16:50
sistpoty|worklbrinkma: you could search for bugs tagged as bitesize, as these should be easy ones16:55
lbrinkmasistpoty|work: thanks. I'll try16:57
the-dudelbrinkma: or search for typo17:04
lbrinkmathe-dude: as a tag or what?17:07
the-dudemany packages have typo's in it, they can be easyly fixed17:07
lbrinkmathe-dude: ah ok. thanks a lot17:08
sistpoty|workthe-dude: typos are best fixed upstream-wise17:09
lbrinkmaSo that down work, right?17:10
randomactionlbrinkma: See links in Topic (FTBFS, NBS, debcheck), some of those are easy.17:10
the-dudecan someone tell what  -i, --indep set package class to arch-independent does with dh_make ?17:12
blackmoonhi, for packaging a python application with debhelper (not cdbs), i need to add some extra thing or is the same as a normal application?17:14
lbrinkmarandomaction: Sorry, I don't now what to do on this pages. I'm just beginning to get involved.17:19
the-dudenm my question I think I already found the awnser17:20
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quentusrexAnyone familiar with reprepro?17:34
christoph_debiana bit17:35
quentusrexalright, I'm trying to setup a repo locally on my network.17:36
the-dudehttp://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28617:36
quentusrexI need to be able to upload my own packages,17:36
quentusrexand mirror packages that were installed by machines on my network.17:37
quentusrexbut I don't want to mirror the whole official repo17:37
quentusrexI would like to somehow only mirror the packages I need,17:39
quentusrexbut have a list of all packages available...17:39
quentusrexthe-dude: I've already looked at that documentation...17:40
quentusrexI think I may need to use two repo's for this17:41
quentusrexone to handle the official packages that are to be proxied.17:42
quentusrexand one to handle my custom packages.17:42
quentusrexchristoph_debian: the-dude: thoughts?17:42
the-dudequentusrex: No I just found that article a few hours ago cause I want to start my own repo as well17:59
quentusrexthe-dude: it seems in my case I'll need to combine a couple of services...18:15
quentusrexone would be a proxy service, either apt-cacher, or approx, or apt-proxy, etc18:16
quentusrexand the other would be my own custom repo18:16
the-dudewould it be really usefull to use a proxy for your own repo?18:16
quentusrexno, I want to only have my network machines look to my proxy, rather than download from the internet18:17
quentusrexthis would allow me to download packages once from the internet,18:18
quentusrexand locally proxy them.18:18
quentusrexthat's the first part.18:18
quentusrexthen the second would be able to add my own packages.18:18
quentusrexsince almost no proxy application will allow for custom packages added to it.18:18
quentusrexso I split the requirements, proxy everything, so all the machines point to one place, then add my custom repo.18:19
the-dudedoes the proxy really care which repo it uses?18:19
quentusrexnope, and it can use multiple repos18:36
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the-dudethen its fine to use a upstream and your local repo18:52
quentusrexthe-dude: yup, that's the plan.18:57
quentusrexcache and proxy both the upstream, and the local repo18:57
the-dudeare you going 2 use apt-cacher of apt-proxy?19:03
quentusrexno idea yet...19:05
quentusrexI'm looking into which is the best proxy to use19:05
quentusrexso, everything on my network will point to the proxy, which will point to my repo, and remote repo.19:05
quentusrexso I want to have some control at the proxy leve.19:05
quentusrexlevel.19:05
quentusrexapt-cacher-ng19:06
quentusrexis another one...19:06
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the-dudequentusrex: use ng where possible19:20
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pen1234http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2042&l=1357&u_id=36343519:51
pen1234http://www.thaiadpoint.com/tap8.1/bin/redir.php?p=2042&l=1357&u_id=36343519:54
fabrice_sp!op19:54
ubottuHelp! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, fbond, mneptok, gnomefreak, Seveas, dholbach, elkbuntu, PriceChild, or jpatrick!19:54
fabrice_spspam ^^19:54
slytherinfabrice_sp: what was that for?19:54
fabrice_spthe links posted by pen123419:55
fabrice_spit's spam8bot)19:55
slytherinOh. At first I thought he was a genuine user.19:55
slytherinany archive admins here?20:15
ttxslytherin: o/20:16
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simon-oHi, I filed bug 426837. Now I'm not sure who I need to subscribe. ~ubuntu-release or ~ubuntu-main-sponsors?20:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 426837 in zsh "Please merge zsh 4.3.10-5 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42683720:43
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simon-oI just read the FreezeExceptionProcess wiki page carefully and from what I understand I must subscribe ubuntu-release and they will set it for confirmed when they approved it. Then the sponsoring takes place. Am I right?20:47
fabrice_spsimon-o, if it's a bug fixing only version, it's not mandatory to subscribe -release team20:48
fabrice_sp!info zsh20:48
ubottuzsh (source: zsh): A shell with lots of features. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.9-4ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 4085 kB, installed size 12264 kB20:48
simon-ofabrice_sp: yes, it's a bug fix, coming from Debian20:49
simon-oso the bug is ok, the way it is?20:49
fabrice_spkarmic has 4.3.10-2ubuntu1 so I would say just ubuntu-main-sponsors20:49
fabrice_splet me check20:49
fabrice_spseems ok20:51
fabrice_spyou just have to wait for a sponsor :-)20:51
simon-ofabrice_sp: thanks :)20:52
fabrice_spyw :-)20:53
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ScottKporthose: I see you are taking another stab at pysvn.  Good for you.22:50
porthoseScottK,  yep would you mind looking at it when you have time :)22:53
ScottKporthose: Do you have another diff to review?22:53
porthoseScottK, yes it is on the bug #42667722:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 426677 in pysvn "pysvn FTBFS" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42667722:54
* ScottK looks22:55
ScottKporthose: Looks sane at first glance.22:56
porthose:)22:57
ScottKReminder for everyone else: Plenty of stuff to do here: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/karmic.html#universe23:00
RainCTScottK: "Ubuntu MOTU Developers <..>" is officially dead now?23:16
ScottKRainCT: AFAIK for maintainer, yes.23:17
ScottKSee update-maintainer in karmic23:17
* RainCT didn't know update-maintainer dictates policy :)23:17
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ScottKporthose: Close.  See the bug.23:21
ScottKRainCT: No, but I'm assuming it didn't get changed randomly.23:21
geserread the url in the script23:23
geserthe new address was decided in a TB meeting23:23
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