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GrantbowWho can update www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq with the names for Intrepid, Jaunty and Karmic?06:14
Grantbowbug#426635 filed06:21
dpmnewz2000: hi, could you please look into bug 362949?10:50
ubot3Malone bug 362949 in ubuntu-start-page "start.ubuntu.com webserver does not supports Asturian" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36294910:50
newz2000hi dpm. Yes, I've looked into it and will set up a time w/ other parties to get this fixed by release day14:39
dpmnewz2000: ok, great, thanks. Could you please comment on the bug to let the Asturian community members this is being worked on?15:00
newz2000yeah, that would be good wouldn't it? I think this is actually a duplicate bug so will work it out so that people understand15:01
jpdsnewz2000: You in London?15:05
newz2000jpds: Des Moines, Iowa, USA15:05
jpdsAh, right.15:05
SiDi(Des Moines means Some Monks in my language :P)15:06
newz2000yeah, I think the french just tried to spell the native american name as well as they could15:06
newz2000There really aren't too many monks around here. :-)15:07
newz2000Though I did meet a Buddhist monk at a concert not too long ago15:07
SiDihehe15:12
SiDii think he arrived long after the french, though :D15:12
emmajanenewz2000, ping :)16:06
newz2000hello emmajane16:06
emmajanenewz2000, hey :)16:07
emmajanenewz2000, I'm delighted you like the new mockup.16:07
emmajaneI'm just adding a google search to the bazaar site. is there a way to make it look less like their crappy bloated widget?16:07
emmajaneI think one of the ubuntu sites uses google search..maybe?16:07
newz2000Yes, the trick is to set up google custom search through adsense16:08
newz2000it will still have ads, the only way to avoid that is to use the paid version16:08
emmajaneah. ok.16:08
emmajaneshould I get poolie to set that up? or would that be something he'd hand off to IS?16:09
emmajane(surprisingly, I don't want to be the forever overlord of the bazaar search)16:09
newz2000yeah, good question16:09
emmajanehe gave me one through their custom search.16:09
newz2000do you have an account you can use to experiment with?16:09
newz2000oh16:09
emmajane(which was tied to his account)16:09
newz2000yes, then that'd how I'd proceed, through his16:10
* emmajane nods16:10
emmajanethanks :)16:10
newz2000let me look to see how I did it on search.ubuntu.com I seem to remember it not being obvious16:10
emmajaneI was just checking help. and it was lovely.16:11
newz2000the one we're using is purely javascript based but allows the nicest themeing (of the free versions)16:11
emmajanenewz2000, search. looks nice too.16:11
* emmajane nods16:12
newz2000emmajane: http://www.google.com/cse/docs/16:15
newz2000"the developer guide" has some good stuff16:15
newz2000search.u.c uses the js version, lauchpad.net uses the xml version which requires server side code16:15
newz2000both allow rich themeing16:15
emmajanenewz2000, http://www.gmodules.com/ig/creator?url=http://www.google.com/cse/api/009852948614216791564/cse/dr5xzrczfnu/gadget&synd=open&w=320&h=75&title=Bazaar+site+search+engine&border=%23ffffff%7C0px%2C1px+solid+%23004488%7C0px%2C1px+solid+%23005599%7C0px%2C1px+solid+%230077BB%7C0px%2C1px+solid+%230088CC <--- does that link work?16:16
newz2000yeah, takes me to an "add this gadget to you rpage" bazaar site search16:16
newz2000which does seem to give relevant links16:16
emmajanehttp://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=009852948614216791564%3Adr5xzrczfnu <-- that's the page if it doesn't work...16:17
emmajaneah.16:17
* emmajane looks in the developer guide.16:17
emmajanethanks for the link :)16:17
newz2000There is a guy inside canonical who knows so much about this16:17
newz2000named dustin kirkland16:18
newz2000I can get you in touch with him if you get stuck. He really really likes this kind of stuff.16:18
emmajaneI think I follow dustin on identi.ca :)16:18
emmajaneheh16:18
emmajanewe all need hobbies, eh?16:18
newz2000indeed16:18
emmajanehttp://code.google.com/intl/en/apis/customsearch/docs/ui.html#searchbox looks usefful16:19
newz2000Scroll down to "presenting the rsults on the same page"16:19
newz2000that may be what you want16:20
emmajaneok16:20
newz2000emmajane: did you see this floating around in the last few days? http://www.baselinecss.com/16:20
emmajaneisn't baseline css just a pipe dream?16:21
* emmajane looks16:21
newz2000a newish grid framework16:21
newz2000incorporates html 5 stuff16:21
emmajaneahh, cool!16:21
newz2000may be a little cutting edge but definitely the way of the future16:21
emmajaneI still need to update the 960 style sheets to use ems instead of fixed px.16:21
newz2000I'm using 960 on ubuntu.com now but I really wish I could combine it with blueprint16:22
newz2000I love and dislike things about both16:22
* emmajane nods16:23
emmajaneOo. I met Mark Boulton at DrupalCon. That was pretty cool.16:23
newz2000I would expect you'd meet a lot of cool people at drupalcon. :-)16:23
emmajaneI know most of the drupal folks just  from IRC and it was nice to meet someone from the outside world. ;)16:25
newz2000yeah, that is nice.16:26
newz2000oh, just checked out 960's website and one of my beefs has been fixed... there's now a generator for custom dimensions16:26
emmajane\o/16:26
emmajanesomeone was complaining recently about fixed vs. fluid. but they've had that for a while too.16:27
knomedrupal? nice?16:27
knomewhere's the negative16:27
emmajaneI spent a couple of hours looking at the YUI grid stuff but then realized it was only in 2.x and was sad and went back to 960.16:27
newz2000yui's grid does not follow the same versioning as the yui js library16:28
* emmajane nods.16:28
newz2000it's not as nice as 960 or blueprint for sure, but it does have two things16:28
emmajaneand they've got huge DEPRECATEDs all over hte 3.x versino of the site.16:28
newz2000it's nestable so you can put grids inside of grids easily, also it supports standard ad sizes easily16:28
emmajaneI liked the nested columns of various set widths. that seemed cool to me (although i don't have a problem with 960s adding up columns)16:28
emmajaneyah16:28
emmajaneI really liked the video on why they came to have what they've got.16:29
emmajaneit just seemed to be... rational.16:29
newz2000yeah. I still don't want to use it though. :-)16:29
newz2000hey knome, you and rime got anything exciting in mind for banners this time around?16:32
knomenot really. we can help with doing thing X, if you need, i think ;)16:32
knomewhat do you think about the apng?16:32
newz2000I think it's very clever. I'm open to using it.16:33
newz2000But we need a message first16:33
knomedid you see my post on the ML?16:34
knomespecifically the concern about people "missing" something16:34
knomei mean, in the last time, the point was to stay on the last frame16:34
knomebut now, if we put in an animated png...16:34
knomehow to keep the whole animation interesting?16:35
newz2000Yeah, there are numerous question marks.16:35
newz2000The real solution would be to just use the HTML5 <video> tag of course. :-)16:36
knomei mean, the last time, i think the first frames were perfect. do we have anything like that this time?16:36
knomeis there any ideas or needs from canonical? what to emphasis on?16:36
newz2000We don't need to emphasize on anything, the marketing dept specifically likes to leave that in the hands of the community16:37
newz2000if we want to, we can focus on the social aspects of karmic16:37
knomelike.. what? :)16:38
knomeone thing we could do with apng is to have a static part telling the most important things and then a little bar witn running text16:39
newz2000that would be clever16:40
newz2000most important thing being the number of days16:40
knomethe only question mark is how much this would increase the file size16:41
newz2000yeah16:41
newz2000knome: why don't you sketch out your idea real quick and post it to the list or wiki?16:42
knomemeh ;)16:43
knomewhat was the required size again?16:49
newz2000180x15016:50
knomeokay16:51
newz2000It's okay if it's a rough drawing if you're just trying to get discussion going16:51
knomewell i can do a gif sketch16:52
knomenewz2000, http://emonk.fi/open/ubuntu/Karmic%20Countdown%20Banner/mockup.gif17:11
emmajanehrm.17:15
emmajanenewz2000, http://search.ubuntu.com/ <--- is this the paid version? I can't figure out how I'd override the background image in the input text field.17:15
knomewhat background image? :P17:16
newz2000it was the paid version but we didn't renew (they wanted something like $70,000 per year) so it reverted to the normal version17:16
emmajanenewz2000, good lord.17:16
emmajanenewz2000, but weird on the bgimage. I guess you've got one of the XML settings files for it?17:17
knomegosh, thunderbird fails.17:17
newz2000I think there was just a line of js that I left out17:17
* emmajane looks again17:17
newz2000a script tag that when excluded takes the watermark off17:17
emmajanehrm. I must have something idfferent.17:19
emmajanemine's just got:17:19
emmajane(erm trying to copy from vim)17:19
knomenewz2000, sent mail to the ML17:19
emmajane 39 <!-- Google Custom Search Element -->17:21
emmajane 40 <div id="cse" class="grid_5 omega">Loading</div>17:21
emmajane 41 <script src="http://www.google.com/jsapi" type="text/javascript"></script>17:21
emmajane 42 <script type="text/javascript">17:21
emmajane 43   google.load('search', '1');17:21
emmajane 44   google.setOnLoadCallback(function(){17:21
emmajane 45     var cse = new google.search.CustomSearchControl();17:21
emmajane 46     cse.enableAds('009852948614216791564%3Adr5xzrczfnu');17:21
emmajane 47     cse.draw('cse');17:21
emmajane 48   }, true);17:21
emmajane 49 </script>17:21
emmajaneooooooooooooo channel spam17:21
emmajanecse.draw('cse') does the actual creation of the search box.17:22
emmajaneso there's not a lot to remove from the widget I got.17:23
emmajanenewz2000, ^^17:26
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