| djshotglass | xubuntu have and dists without X? | 00:30 |
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| djshotglass | (command line only) | 00:31 |
| Guest60089 | hello | 00:55 |
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| meglo | http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/2009/02/27/not-the-best-friday/#more-581 | 00:57 |
| meglo | Is anything this guy says valid, like suspend/hibernate... that would be linux acpi specific or ??? | 00:58 |
| meglo | openbsd doesn't use hal eh | 01:01 |
| meglo | wrong channel :x | 01:02 |
| Searingheart | hai guise | 03:35 |
| meglo | out get | 03:36 |
| Searingheart | wat | 03:36 |
| meglo | :> | 03:36 |
| Searingheart | dont go breakin mah <3 | 03:37 |
| toehio2 | Other than Xubuntu uses XFCE instead of GDM, what makes it more suitable for older machines? | 07:32 |
| Sysi | xubuntu use gdm too | 07:32 |
| Sysi | ubuntu has gnome which needs more memory | 07:33 |
| Sysi | but gnome use gdm also | 07:33 |
| toehio2 | sorry, I meant Gnome | 07:33 |
| toehio2 | if I were to use Gnome on xubuntu, would it be faster than using Gnome on ubuntu? | 07:34 |
| Sysi | no | 07:34 |
| toehio2 | so the only difference is the window manager? | 07:34 |
| Sysi | and some programs are different | 07:34 |
| toehio2 | yeah | 07:36 |
| toehio2 | OK, I guess that answers my query | 07:36 |
| toehio2 | Thank you! | 07:36 |
| mikubuntu | anybody have any sperience w vuze, formerly azureus? | 07:43 |
| zniavre | hello /bonjour | 09:10 |
| evilfrits | hi | 09:55 |
| dsdeiz | hello, how do i remove this "New Item" icon from the Desktop? | 11:34 |
| SiDi | dsdeiz: i never heard of such an icon | 11:39 |
| SiDi | May you take a screenshot please ? | 11:39 |
| dsdeiz | doing it now | 11:42 |
| dsdeiz | http://yfrog.com/03200909091839101280x800sp <- here | 11:43 |
| dsdeiz | i think you call it a panel? | 11:44 |
| SiDi | dsdeiz: yes, this is a panel | 11:59 |
| SiDi | dsdeiz: it looks like you deleted your top and bottom panel and added an empty one afterwards | 12:00 |
| SiDi | (you or someone with access to your computer / this can also be a bug but i've just never seen that happening before) | 12:00 |
| SiDi | dsdeiz: you can right click that panel, and click on 'Configure panel' if you want to restore it to the top / bottom, add another one, etc | 12:01 |
| dsdeiz | yups. got it working now | 12:01 |
| SiDi | however it might be faster to just destroy the current panel configuration and let xubuntu restore a new one | 12:01 |
| dsdeiz | hmm, actually i have ubuntu and just installed xfce | 12:02 |
| SiDi | oh | 12:02 |
| SiDi | did you install xfce4 ? | 12:02 |
| dsdeiz | yups | 12:02 |
| SiDi | okey | 12:02 |
| SiDi | you should have installed xubuntu-desktop instead :) | 12:02 |
| dsdeiz | oh? | 12:02 |
| SiDi | it comes with a default xfce configuration, which can be practical | 12:02 |
| dsdeiz | dang | 12:02 |
| dsdeiz | oh i see | 12:02 |
| SiDi | i propose you to boot back to ubuntu+gnome | 12:02 |
| dsdeiz | i'll check on it | 12:02 |
| SiDi | then, delete .config/xfce4/ folder, and install xubuntu-desktop | 12:03 |
| SiDi | so that the next time you boot on xfce you'll have a proper configuration setup | 12:03 |
| dsdeiz | ahh, so with that, i get the xubuntu setup of xfce? | 12:03 |
| SiDi | yes | 12:03 |
| SiDi | And you'll have more XFCE applications installed than just the core | 12:04 |
| dsdeiz | dang, why didn't i see that. ok, got it. thanks ;) | 12:04 |
| SiDi | (xfce is very modular, xfce4 itself is only the panel, the file manager and the window manager) | 12:04 |
| dsdeiz | is there like a list of what apps are being installed with xubuntu-desktop? | 12:04 |
| SiDi | It will show you when you install it | 12:04 |
| SiDi | Basically, aside from those you have, there are mousepad, abiword, gnumeric | 12:05 |
| SiDi | and gpicview | 12:05 |
| SiDi | of course you can delete those afterwards if you dont need them | 12:05 |
| SiDi | (and also listen music player and orage calendar will be installed, which you can remove too if you dont need them. orage is cool though) | 12:05 |
| dsdeiz | hmm, yeah. some gnome-apps are being listed too | 12:06 |
| dsdeiz | anyways, i'm good with xfce4 for now. but i shall definitely install xubuntu-desktop on my other computer | 12:07 |
| dsdeiz | get the xubuntu iso rather | 12:07 |
| SiDi | (you can still install xubuntu-artwork on your machine though :P) | 12:09 |
| dsdeiz | ahh, apt-get'ing it now | 12:10 |
| SiDi | xfce4-appfinder xfce4-governor-plugin xfce4-mixer xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-settings and xfce4-xfapplet-plugin may also interest you | 12:10 |
| dsdeiz | noo! stop! lolz. i think i actually have orage already :P | 12:11 |
| dsdeiz | so how do i use this xubuntu-artwork? | 12:12 |
| SiDi | it added a gtk theme, xfwm themes, a cool wallpaper, and most important of all, THE gdm theme | 12:12 |
| SiDi | /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-jaunty.png and xubuntu-jaunty-ws.png are now available | 12:13 |
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| dsdeiz | hello, how do i make use of xubuntu-artwork again? | 13:55 |
| SiDi | dsdeiz: once its installed it will just add a gdm theme, a wallpaper (in /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/) and a gtk and icon themes | 13:56 |
| dsdeiz | SiDi: so how do i try to change my icons? | 13:56 |
| SiDi | so you can get them through the theming utilities available for each component | 13:56 |
| SiDi | Applications -> Settings -> Appearence | 13:56 |
| SiDi | same for the theme | 13:56 |
| SiDi | GDM themes are in Applications -> System -> Login window | 13:56 |
| SiDi | Wallpapers are in Applications -> Settings -> Desktop | 13:56 |
| SiDi | The applications menu is automatically added with xubuntu-desktop but you can add it manually to your panel, it's the XFCE Menu | 13:57 |
| dsdeiz | SiDi: i went for window in Appearance but it doesn't seem to change anything | 13:57 |
| SiDi | Do you run compiz / metacity ? | 13:57 |
| SiDi | (show me a screenshot of your windows please) | 13:58 |
| dsdeiz | ok | 13:58 |
| dsdeiz | http://img406.yfrog.com/i/200909092059401280x800s.png/ | 14:00 |
| dsdeiz | is it like xfce's window manager that i need? | 14:01 |
| dsdeiz | SiDi: ahh, got it working now | 14:09 |
| SiDi | What is that window on your screenshot ? | 14:10 |
| SiDi | I've never seen this | 14:10 |
| dsdeiz | oh? that's what i got when i went to menu > Settings > Appearance. | 14:11 |
| dsdeiz | maybe it's an app from Gnome? | 14:11 |
| SiDi | What do you see if you type xfce4-appearence-settings in a terminal ? | 14:15 |
| SiDi | Should look like the one on the right on this screenshot : http://imagebin.ca/view/SHRHBq-P.html | 14:15 |
| dsdeiz | SiDi: i don't have that command | 14:27 |
| PeterDarkness | O.o | 14:27 |
| dsdeiz | bash: xfce4-appearence-settings: command not found | 14:28 |
| PeterDarkness | yeah, what is that? haha | 14:28 |
| knome | dsdeiz, looks like you have lxde. | 14:30 |
| dsdeiz | ahh right | 14:30 |
| dsdeiz | yeah, i also have that | 14:30 |
| dsdeiz | :D | 14:30 |
| knome | no, you're running it. | 14:31 |
| dsdeiz | oh? | 14:31 |
| knome | as it turns out, yes. | 14:31 |
| dsdeiz | may i ask how would i know? | 14:31 |
| knome | judged by how it looks. | 14:31 |
| dsdeiz | i just actually found it in the xfce menu | 14:31 |
| SiDi | this window you have shown me, its the LXDE appearence settings | 14:31 |
| SiDi | I seriously recommend you to install xubuntu-desktop and to delete your ~/.config/xfce/ folder from your gnome / lxde session so you can start on sane bases | 14:32 |
| dsdeiz | hmm, can i have two de's running? | 14:32 |
| SiDi | no, but you can have apps from two DEs running, which seems to be the case | 14:32 |
| dsdeiz | right | 14:32 |
| dsdeiz | correct, though knome says i have it running | 14:33 |
| knome | dsdeiz, it is possible you run xfce also, but this app is from lxde for sure | 14:33 |
| dsdeiz | oh ok. right.. i think it's from lxde too | 14:34 |
| knome | dsdeiz, anyway, you'd need to run the xfce appearance settings. | 14:34 |
| dsdeiz | is it xfce-setting-show? | 14:34 |
| knome | no, xfce4-appearance-settings | 14:36 |
| dsdeiz | well, it isn't available on my case | 14:36 |
| SiDi | You apparently lack xfce4-settings | 14:36 |
| SiDi | i wouldnt be surprised if you lack many other things like xfce4-session | 14:36 |
| dsdeiz | hmm, i have xfce4-session | 14:36 |
| dsdeiz | though i've already found how to change its settings, so i'm good | 14:37 |
| dsdeiz | thanks guys ;) | 14:37 |
| SiDi | you're welcome | 14:38 |
| miguelonnnn | hii | 15:40 |
| miguelonnnn | please i got a question, would anybody help me? it's about my nic | 15:40 |
| knome | !ask | miguelonnnn | 15:44 |
| ubottu | miguelonnnn: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 15:44 |
| miguelonnnn | hi ! ok ok | 15:45 |
| miguelonnnn | well, networkmanager lists the ap's, i can connect to them, and theres no problem at all, so i guess the kernel driver module is loaded well, and everything is fine | 15:45 |
| miguelonnnn | but the iwlist scan won't work , it keeps saying "interface doesn't support scaning" | 15:46 |
| miguelonnnn | it keeps saying "interface doesn't support scanning", i don't know how to solve it | 15:46 |
| knome | miguelonnnn, maybe the interface really doesn't support scanning with the driver it uses at the moment. | 15:52 |
| knome | miguelonnnn, if i remember correctly, some chipsets can use networks, but not scan them with open source drivers. | 15:52 |
| miguelonnnn | hmm | 15:53 |
| knome | miguelonnnn, you should google for your wifi card/dongle and its linux-compatibility | 15:53 |
| miguelonnnn | but then why networkmanager can scan? | 15:53 |
| miguelonnnn | but i can connect to lans with the networkmanager applet | 15:53 |
| miguelonnnn | i've googled many times, but couldn't find any solution | 15:54 |
| knome | but you can't do what then? | 15:54 |
| miguelonnnn | i can't scan with iwlist scan command | 15:54 |
| knome | why should you do that? | 15:54 |
| miguelonnnn | because i don't like networkmanager | 15:54 |
| knome | use wicd then, for example | 15:54 |
| miguelonnnn | it's too slow to detect wifi lans, i make it and it takes 15 -20 seconds to find it, | 15:55 |
| knome | i'm not sure if iwlist would be any faster. | 15:55 |
| miguelonnnn | yeah, but anyway that doesn't solve the problem with iwlist, it should let me find scans, shouldn't it? | 15:55 |
| miguelonnnn | i simply get "interface doesn't support scaning" | 15:56 |
| knome | i don't know, but to be honest, as long as networkmanager works for you, i have no intention to find out. if you want to get iwlist working, you should file a bug. | 15:56 |
| miguelonnnn | hmm and where do i send it? | 15:57 |
| knome | !bugs | miguelonnnn | 15:57 |
| ubottu | miguelonnnn: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots | 15:57 |
| miguelonnnn | mmm nice hehe thanks i'll try | 15:57 |
| miguelonnnn | but will they help me? | 15:57 |
| miguelonnnn | cause i don't thing this is a bug | 15:57 |
| knome | there is no guarantee somebody will fix it right now. | 15:58 |
| miguelonnnn | hmmm then it won't help me, i don't thing this is a bug, it's simply something about my config | 15:59 |
| miguelonnnn | because airoscript neither lets me scan | 15:59 |
| knome | miguelonnnn, did you use sudo with iwlisT? | 15:59 |
| miguelonnnn | i think it has to do with the way i use them, maybe i should config any file first or .... don't know | 15:59 |
| miguelonnnn | nope, w8 please i'll try | 16:00 |
| miguelonnnn | lol | 16:00 |
| miguelonnnn | that worked!!!!1 | 16:00 |
| miguelonnnn | yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh how did you know? | 16:00 |
| knome | i googled "iwlist interface doesn't support scanning" | 16:00 |
| knome | and read the first search result | 16:00 |
| miguelonnnn | wow, nice try, i typed "interface doesn't suport scanning" and didn't find anything | 16:01 |
| knome | which is from ubuntuforums.org | 16:01 |
| miguelonnnn | greattttt and it's much better than networkmanager, cause it tells me a lot of info: frequency, channel, mode, quality, bit rates... | 16:02 |
| abhifx | my multimedia keys doesn't work? how to enable them? | 16:02 |
| miguelonnnn | mine neither, i can't even use funciton keys lol xd | 16:02 |
| knome | abhifx, http://open.knome.fi/2009/07/05/panels-disappearing-and-other-frequently-asked-questions/ | 16:02 |
| knome | abhifx, see the near bottom | 16:03 |
| knome | miguelonnnn, function keys for what? | 16:03 |
| abhifx | knome : ok m going to check it. thank you. | 16:03 |
| knome | abhifx, you're welcome. hope it fixes your problem. | 16:04 |
| miguelonnnn | for f1, f2... you know | 16:04 |
| miguelonnnn | for example alt+f2 to runc ommands won't work | 16:04 |
| miguelonnnn | but hey, i'm not such exigent, i have enough if the usual keys work | 16:05 |
| abhifx | knome : hmm... i didnt undertood.... i just couldnt make it work | 16:05 |
| knome | abhifx, okay, so go into the keyboard settings | 16:06 |
| abhifx | knome: i get the option of cancel. i think i am just too dumb, can you explain me a bit | 16:06 |
| abhifx | knome : i am at the settings | 16:07 |
| knome | abhifx, when you get the window with "cancel", you should press the multimedia key which you are setting. | 16:07 |
| abhifx | knome : oh i did it, just had to press the key | 16:08 |
| knome | abhifx, press which key? cancel? | 16:08 |
| abhifx | knome : heh heh, well thank you very much | 16:08 |
| knome | okay, no problem. | 16:09 |
| abhifx | knome : is there a full list for all keys | 16:12 |
| knome | abhifx, you mean all the keys in your keyboard? | 16:13 |
| knome | abhifx, just look down ;) | 16:13 |
| abhifx | knome : and i was wondering, your nick is knome... and i just visited the site knome...hmmm... whats the connection | 16:13 |
| knome | i've written that article | 16:13 |
| abhifx | knome : all the multimedia keys i.e. | 16:13 |
| knome | it's my open source blog :) | 16:13 |
| knome | do you mean the commands that should be linked with the keys? | 16:14 |
| abhifx | knome : i mean my multimedia keys and their respective commands like for next, pause etc. btw nice blog | 16:15 |
| knome | abhifx, that depends on your music player. | 16:15 |
| knome | abhifx, which one you are using? (and thanks for the compliment) | 16:16 |
| abhifx | knome, i use all of them, mostly banshee and songbird. i have the plugins installed | 16:17 |
| knome | i don't know those apps, sorry. but i suppose at least banshee supports global shortcuts | 16:18 |
| knome | abhifx, if you have a windows key on your kb, you can try WIN+B for next track | 16:19 |
| abhifx | knome, but i have dedicated multimedia keys for that, i just want to know the command. | 16:20 |
| abhifx | knome, like for volume up command was amixer sset Master 5%+ | 16:21 |
| knome | abhifx, oh well, i'll install banshee. just a moment | 16:23 |
| abhifx | knome, ahem... | 16:24 |
| knome | abhifx, banshee --play | 16:25 |
| knome | abhifx, banshee --previous, banshee --next, banshee --stop | 16:25 |
| knome | abhifx, + see banshee --help-playback on terminal | 16:26 |
| abhifx | knome, hmm... so it has to be per application | 16:26 |
| knome | yes. | 16:26 |
| abhifx | knome, thanks for your efforts.i really appreciate it | 16:27 |
| knome | absolutely no problem. | 16:28 |
| abhifx | knome, just 1 more question, are you somekind of developer of xubuntu? | 16:29 |
| knome | abhifx, i'm the marketing lead | 16:30 |
| knome | abhifx, working on artwork, websites, community and well.. marketing | 16:30 |
| abhifx | knome, wow! can i add a suggestion | 16:31 |
| knome | abhifx, sure | 16:31 |
| abhifx | knome, i would love to see xubuntu looking less like gnomish. it looks more like mini gnome | 16:32 |
| knome | abhifx, what could that difference be? | 16:33 |
| knome | i think gnome is going bit away from the traditional DE look, where xfce on the other hand wants to stay in | 16:33 |
| abhifx | knome, well the arrangement of the panels, menu etc | 16:34 |
| abhifx | knome, actually when i installed xfce, i was hoping for some new experiance, but it felt like gnome | 16:34 |
| knome | abhifx, well, it is a bit like gnome, i agree. | 16:35 |
| abhifx | knome, anyway it was just a suggestion since you are also in the artwork department | 16:37 |
| knome | yeah. i think this is more a suggestion/idea for the xfce team | 16:37 |
| knome | we are thinking of a dark theme, but that is just a theme | 16:37 |
| abhifx | knome, dark theme would be great, ooh and a dark special effect kinda wallpaper | 16:41 |
| abhifx | knome, here is what i did, i made gnome look like...well...gnome like, kde looks like windows and i added cairo-dock at the bottom so it looks like a mac | 16:42 |
| knome | abhifx, we have a good looking wallpaper ready ;) | 16:44 |
| abhifx | knome, gud to hear. since i am a graphic artist i like to see a cool wallpaper. hope ur wallpaper meets the expectation | 16:46 |
| knome | abhifx, see privmsg | 16:47 |
| abhifx | knome, yeah i actually responded to ur prevois msg | 16:50 |
| knome | abhifx, hmm, can't see the reply. | 16:50 |
| abhifx | knome, wait i hv a crappy net, let me load the page | 16:51 |
| abhifx | sorry for a long wait. the wallpaper is much better than current, albeit less flashy for my taste | 16:59 |
| abhifx | knome, i just had a great idea for the wallpaper too, i will try in blender today. will tell you directly | 17:03 |
| knome | okay | 17:12 |
| knome | no problem | 17:12 |
| RadSurfer2 | Hello. We are trying to install some HamRadio packages and need to know what Repositiories we need please. | 18:42 |
| RadSurfer2 | I was going to edit 'sources.list' from UbuntuStudio which works, but didn't want to corrupt xubuntu... | 18:42 |
| KittyKatt | [AmsG] brb | 18:49 |
| KittyKatt | brb: Restarting | 19:13 |
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| nikihr | Hey i cant bind alt-a to switch to workspace 1? :O | 20:27 |
| nikihr | but alt-s can i bind for workspace 2 etc etc | 20:27 |
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| lsemple_ | can u use emerald without compiz? | 20:56 |
| Sysi | yes | 20:57 |
| lsemple_ | cool | 20:57 |
| Sysi | but i didn't get compiz without emerald :/ | 20:58 |
| lsemple_ | yeah Im not sure this computer is fast enough for compiz | 20:58 |
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