[08:21] <apachelogger> could apport be even more annoying?
[08:23] <jussi01> apachelogger: possibly... anyway, I have a quetion for you. Do you know which flag is being used for making quassel in kubuntu - it has issues with phonon in karmic.
[08:24] <apachelogger> DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS := -DWANT_MONO=ON -DWITH_KDE=ON -DEMBED_DATA=OFF -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debugfull
[08:24] <jussi01> thanks!
[08:24] <apachelogger> jussi01: a complete list is available in the build log
[08:24] <jussi01> apachelogger: which is where?
[08:25] <apachelogger> on launchpad
[08:25] <apachelogger> somewhere
[08:25] <jussi01> *g*
[08:25] <apachelogger> run usrc:quassel
[08:25] <apachelogger> that should take you to the package's launchpad page
[08:25] <jussi01> k
[08:58] <apachelogger> who wants to maintain qt langauge selector?
[10:22] <Riddell> "Kubuntu Members - KDE 4 Repository has a new message requiring your approval.  Subject: Kubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) - kde doesn't start  Author name: janber"  huh?
[10:26] <jussi01> is that repo a "team" on LP? maybe it has a ML attached and you happent o be the default handler of that ML...
[11:40] <apachelogger> fun
[11:40] <apachelogger> everytime I want to fix something in apturl I end up reimplementing half the UI :S
[11:41] <apachelogger> ktitlewidget seems like a good thing though
[11:55] <Riddell> it has a UI?
[11:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: apturl-kde?
[11:57] <apachelogger> on the CD? :P
[11:57] <apachelogger> gotta fix that nasty encoding thing and blog about it
[11:58] <apachelogger> kubuntu-firefox-installer is also in and waiting for shtylman__ to provide a kubuntu-installer-style package
[12:15] <ghostcube> morning peoples
[12:15] <ghostcube> :)
[13:01] <Quintasan> Hiho
[13:03] <seele> kubuntu meeting in 3 hours, yes?
[13:05] <apachelogger> seele: huh?
[13:06]  * seele points to topic
[13:06] <apachelogger> hm
[13:07] <apachelogger> fun
[13:07] <apachelogger> so considering one does not use IRC a whole lot one is supposed to ask the fortune teller of choice when the next meeting is?
[13:07] <seele> maybe it is specific to notifications? i dunno
[13:08] <apachelogger> me neither
[13:08] <jussi01> apachelogger: no, you are supposed to be telepathic, didnt you know? :D
[13:08] <apachelogger> at the very best I would write a ninja script that beats up someone to obtain such information :P
[13:10] <jussi01> apachelogger: awesome :D
[13:41] <ScottK> When is the meeting?
[13:44] <JontheEchidna> in 2 hours 20 mins
[13:45] <JontheEchidna> in 2 hours 16 mins now
[13:45] <ScottK> Thanks
[13:45] <ScottK> 15 actually.
[13:45] <ScottK> ;-)
[13:45] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[13:47] <apachelogger> and what is the agenda?
[13:47] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: wanna maintain qt-language-selector? :P
[13:47] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: btw, any nus on jockey-kde? going to blog about apturl and firefox installer so I could ship some other apps news in
[13:47] <ScottK> apachelogger: I think kubuntu-firefox-installer is also waiting to get implemented in a language fully supported in Main.
[13:48] <JontheEchidna> jockey-kde will probably remain untouched since 9.04 :(
[13:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: ruby is fully supported :P
[13:48] <ScottK> apachelogger: Not the gettext bits.
[13:48] <JontheEchidna> I never did manage to get it thread-safe for System Settings
[13:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: I suppose I need to re-upload
[13:48] <apachelogger> since the stripping happens at build-time and it was built in universe...
[13:49] <apachelogger> pot extraction should be working fine
[13:49] <ScottK> apachelogger: It needs something.  slangasek was skeptical about the stack of MIR that would be needed.
[13:49] <apachelogger> ScottK: it is in :P
[13:49] <ScottK> OK.  A rebuild upload might be a good idea then.
[13:49] <apachelogger> aye, doing that in a bit
[13:50] <ScottK> I'll do a meta upload.
[13:54] <apachelogger> up it goes
[13:57]  * JontheEchidna wonders what's up with userconfig: bug 423741
[13:57] <JontheEchidna> Loïc did his upload on the 5th or so
[13:58] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Did anyone seed it?
[13:59] <ScottK> Riddell: Did we decide we want userconfig instead of kuser?
[13:59] <JontheEchidna> It's not been promoted to main yet
[13:59] <Riddell> I've not had time to look at userconfig recently I'm afraid
[13:59] <Riddell> in general I think we want it
[13:59] <ScottK> OK.
[14:00] <ScottK> Riddell: Want me to go ahead and seed it?
[14:00] <Riddell> there might have been questions like does it to LDAP?
[14:00] <Riddell> ScottK: please
[14:00] <ScottK> OK.  I won't drop kuser yet so we don't have CDs with nothing in the meantime.
[14:02] <JontheEchidna> I think we said on the ML that before we could get userconfig to replace kuser upstream, it'd probably need ldap work like kuser
[14:02] <JontheEchidna> sounds like a good topic for the meeting, though
[14:06] <ScottK> OK.  It's seeded, so it'll show up in component mismatches shortly.
[14:10] <JontheEchidna> bug 379397, bug 379399, bug 379406
[14:11] <JontheEchidna> kuser seems somewhat broken
[14:12] <dantti> ScottK: As you are interested in PK this -> http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5682/simulate2.png will fixes this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/342671
[14:14] <ScottK> dantti: Is there something we need we don't have already (I'm noting the bug status)?
[14:14] <JontheEchidna> ^removals still don't work, actually
[14:15] <dantti> ScottK: well that can only be done (currently) with my aptcc backend, PK >0.5.2 and with kpk 0.5 (I didn't commit this ui yet)
[14:15] <ScottK> Ah.
[14:16] <dantti> JontheEchidna: yes, and this is the fix (authough aptcc lacks install/remove/update support, but only this)
[14:16] <ScottK> dantti: This sounds good.  I suspect it's too late for use to make major changes for Karmic, but it sounds like we'll be in pretty good shape for the next release.
[14:17] <dantti> hopefully when i finnally finish kpk 0.5 I'll finish install/remove/update in aptcc backend..
[14:17] <ScottK> What's your timeline for that?
[14:18] <dantti> ScottK: yes, well I'm thinking on having this finished till the end of the month (aptcc + kpk 0.5), kpk comes first (since FC12 needs it)
[14:18] <ScottK> Then it sounds like it should be quite mature for Karmic +1.  This is good since that's likely a long term support release for us.
[14:19] <dantti> this will still left 2 problems of PK vs APT, but I have the fixes in mind already.. hopefully for Debian squeeze they will get in..
[14:19] <ScottK> I saw mornfall is working on Adept again.
[14:20] <dantti> well with the problems pk vs apt currently have imo pk is not a good option for users... but I'm trying to change this..
[14:20] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: he was fixing the "adept crashes when sources.list is wrong" bug since he was getting so much bugmail, but then that release FTBFS
[14:21] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: so then he released beta7 to fix that
[14:21] <JontheEchidna> then 7.2 managed to get it to build
[14:31] <apachelogger> I luv to blog
[14:33] <apachelogger> dpm: please revu the templates for kubuntu-firefox-installer
[14:33]  * apachelogger is wondering where the main pot is though
[14:34] <apachelogger> :S
[14:34] <dpm> apachelogger: ok thanks for the heads up. I'm in the middle of something now, but will get to it in the next hour or so
[14:35] <apachelogger> sure, there is no rush :)
[14:35] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: is apturl-kde supposed to work with firefox?
[14:35] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: aye
[14:35] <apachelogger> well, technically
[14:35] <apachelogger> what was apturl before is now a shell script that tries to make an educated best guess on what UI to use
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> firefox sez that it doesn't have any program associated with apt :(
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> maybe one needs ubufox?
[14:36] <apachelogger> shouldn't
[14:36] <apachelogger> did you restart it?
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[14:36] <apachelogger> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apturl/+bug/362345
[14:37] <apachelogger> maybe that issue
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> hmmmm
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> maybe! *clicky*
[14:37] <apachelogger> ohhh
[14:40] <obama> kubuntu will soon be the nations only OS, keep up the good work
[14:40] <apachelogger> oh dear
[14:41] <apachelogger> rgettext :S
[14:41] <apachelogger> up it goes again
[14:41]  * apachelogger needs to de-thread a bit
[14:41] <apachelogger> my coffee is already cold -.-
[14:43] <apachelogger> Thread.new
[14:43] <ScottK> Good point.  Mine too (coffee)
[14:43] <apachelogger> what do you think about reintroducing kdelibs5-doc?
[14:43] <Riddell> that takes ages to build
[14:44] <Riddell> and does anyone use it?  you can download docs from api.kde.org
[14:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: one can?
[14:44] <apachelogger> download that is
[14:45] <apachelogger> hm, takes one additional hour to build
[14:45] <apachelogger> we could, however, detach it from kde4libs itself (i.e. have a fake package that apt-get sources the kde4libs source)
[14:47] <JontheEchidna> Ewww: http://imagebin.ca/view/MWvWkK1X.html
[14:48] <JontheEchidna> install-package is all kinds of untranslated :(
[14:48] <apachelogger> update to ubuntu5
[14:48] <apachelogger> install-package is a bastard child of the devil
[14:49] <JontheEchidna> true
[14:49] <apachelogger> one single code duplication from gdebi
[14:49] <JontheEchidna> therefore, gdebi-kde is teh devil?
[14:50] <apachelogger> have you looked at it's code? :P
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> it's been a while, but yeah
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> I was looking to see how it did kcmdlineargs
[14:51] <apachelogger> hm, mozilla is gettig more communistic by the minute
[14:55] <ScottK> Is that a bug or a feature?
[14:55] <apachelogger> I find it intimidating
[14:57] <jussi01> In soviet mozilla...
[14:58] <JontheEchidna> xul runs you!
[14:58] <jussi01> Ill get my coat
[14:58] <JontheEchidna> (get it? xulrunner anyone? noone?)
[14:58]  * apachelogger doesnt get it
[14:59] <JontheEchidna> wasn't a very good joke anyways, lol
[14:59] <jussi01> is anyone here involved with the chromium-browser ppa?
[14:59] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: doubtable
[15:00] <ScottK> jussi01: I suspect asac
[15:27]  * apachelogger needs to revise his approach on firefox theme packaging
[15:27] <apachelogger> ScottK: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/kubuntu-firefox-installer/+imports
[15:28] <ScottK> \o/
[15:30] <apachelogger> hm
[15:30] <apachelogger> cool
[15:31] <apachelogger> it seems chromium would use xdg-open to open urls it can't process
[15:31] <apachelogger> so apturl does even work there
[15:31] <ScottK> apachelogger: New kubuntu-meta uploaded, so FF installer should be on the next CD.
[15:31] <apachelogger> ScottK: CDs are built from the seed, so it is on the CD I think
[15:32] <ScottK> Right.  On the CD, but won't get installed without being in the metapackage.
[15:32] <ScottK> So on the CD/get installed
[15:32] <apachelogger> oh
[15:32] <apachelogger> ic
[15:32] <apachelogger> cool
[15:35]  * apachelogger has an urge to beat up firefox
[15:36] <dpm> apachelogger: templates approved -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/kubuntu-firefox-installer (it will take a few minutes for the stats to show up)
[15:36] <apachelogger> dpm: thanks :)
[15:36]  * apachelogger hands dpm a cookie
[15:37] <dpm> np :)
[15:46] <neversfelde> apachelogger: where can I get your kopete style?
[15:47] <apachelogger> GHNS
[15:47] <apachelogger> neversfelde: efficientmod
[15:48] <apachelogger> I recommend to tweak kopete's background setting though
[15:48] <apachelogger> and/or possibly hack the style to match the widget color, looks super cool IIRC
[15:48] <apachelogger> lost my configs on some machine :D
[15:49] <neversfelde> apachelogger: thank you
[15:49] <dpm> and there goes the first kubuntu-firefox-installer translation
[15:50] <apachelogger> \o/
[15:51] <rgreening> JontheEchidna: what to package new 0.9.0 arora (we still have 0.8.0 apparantly) and there are fixes in 0.9.0 we should want
[15:51] <rgreening> assuming we can still update the package
[15:51] <ScottK> rgreening: Ask Riddell for FFe.
[15:52] <rgreening> and we need to remove the adblock patch. icefox indicates it's broken and a major memory leak
[15:52] <rgreening> Riddell: can we get a FFe for arora 0.9.0?
[15:52] <Riddell> rgreening: I expect so
[15:52] <Riddell> rgreening: want to open a bug and put the changelog there?
[15:52] <ScottK> rgreening: That was Tonio's.  You might want to mention it to him.
[15:53] <rgreening> also Riddell, we need to revert the patch Tonio_ added for adblock. icefox says not to add it...
[15:53] <rgreening> yeah,
[15:53] <Riddell> I don't think I've looked at that patch
[15:57] <rgreening> Riddell: icefox says including it will make arora crash (memory leak) and generally it is unstable and unsuitable for use
[15:57] <Riddell> scrap it then
[15:57]  * rgreening is glad he tried to configure it and ended up speaking with icefox about it
[15:57] <rgreening> yep
[15:58] <rgreening> Riddell: I'll file a FFe and build 0.9.0 without the patch. If we have issues getting 0.9.0 approved, we'll have to release an update to 0.8.0 and remove there.
[16:00] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in two minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[16:01] <JontheEchidna> Holy crap, this gtk theme rocks: http://imagebin.ca/view/5B81qG.html
[16:02] <JontheEchidna> eww @ jpeg compression, though. Should've saved as .png
[16:02] <yuriy> oh meeting really
[17:20] <ScottK> agateau: I would encourage you to discuss now how MI and sebas Lion Mail can relate well in KDE 4.4.
[17:21] <JontheEchidna> FFe's need 2 motu-release approvals, correct?
[17:22] <agateau> ScottK: Lion Mail is very specialized toward one thing
[17:22] <ScottK> For universe packages, yes.  The delegate for an area (e.g. Vorian for KDE) can approve by themselves.
[17:23] <agateau> ScottK: I would expect users using Lion Mail to disable indicators in KMail
[17:23] <ScottK> agateau: It is, but if you want MI to get acceptance then I think this needs to be worked out.
[17:23] <ScottK> Even if worked out means "we discussed it and it's not a problem"
[17:25] <agateau> ScottK: good point
[17:25] <ScottK> agateau: In a lot of ways the social aspects of these problems is the hardest and IMO we don't generally pay enough attention to them.
[17:26] <agateau> ScottK: that's the problem with geeks :)
[17:26] <ScottK> agateau: No just geeks.  It's part of the universal human condition.
[17:27] <agateau> ScottK: I was planning also to present the Ayatana notifications on plasma@ someday
[17:28] <agateau> so that they are introduced to it in a more personalized way than a blog post
[17:28] <ScottK> agateau: I think until Canonical gives up on Actions == Evil, it's not going to get much acceptance.  There may be other good points, but people will mostly not listen beyond that.
[17:28] <agateau> presenting as in "making them aware of it", not trying to convince them
[17:29] <agateau> ScottK: I agree, I would like to present this as a source of information,
[17:29] <agateau> an opportunity to get feedback from users about different ideas
[17:30] <agateau> at least the queueing part could be interesting I think
[17:31] <ScottK> agateau: I agree there are some interesting ideas, but I just don't think people will listen due to the actions thing.  Perhaps in the KDE incarnation of Ayatana notifications they could optionally be supported?
[17:31] <ScottK> That way if people like actions, they can still try the other bits.
[17:31] <agateau> ScottK: this would clash with the click-through feature
[17:31] <ScottK> True
[17:32] <ScottK> Although you could perhaps still click through everything that's not the action target area.
[17:32] <agateau> that's an idea I had,
[17:33] <ScottK> Honestly if you can do that, then the odds of your other points getting listened to will go way up.
[17:33] <agateau> Will think about it
[17:33] <ScottK> OK
[17:33] <agateau> There are technical issues as well
[17:33]  * ScottK waves hands
[17:34] <agateau> kid time,
[17:34] <agateau> have to go
[17:34] <ScottK> By
[17:34] <ScottK> Bye even
[17:39] <nixternal> whoa, Canonical rocks hardcore I must say!
[17:39] <nixternal> I just got an email concerning a person with a SAMBA crash
[17:39] <nixternal> check this out:
[17:39] <nixternal> I'm trying to solve a problem and trying to find someone to assist me in
[17:39] <nixternal> fixing my server. I found your name thru calling Canonical.
[17:40] <nixternal> now if Canonical would only pay me :)
[17:40] <Riddell> huh?
[17:40] <nixternal> the person is in Chicago, so that is why they gave him my information
[17:40] <ScottK> Sounds like time for a blog post.
[17:41] <ScottK> That or just help him and send Canonical an invoice.
[17:41] <nixternal> haha
[17:41] <nixternal> I bet Riddell said, "OH, he is from Chicago...forward him to nixternal...what's next to get uploaded?" :p
[17:43] <nixternal> architectural firm...stating they have limited funds....probably a 1 hour fix, so I will help them out
[17:57] <yuriy> nixternal: did you post yourself on market place?
[18:11] <nixternal> yuriy: no I am not on marketplace
[18:33] <nixternal> ScottK: would you be annoyed if you got this email, or would you think it was cool that Canonical actually trusted you to help them out?
[18:33] <nixternal> that is what I am mulling over...I am helping the guy out for a couple of reasons, 1 of course which benefits me, but the other benefits the project and the community
[18:33] <nixternal> word of mouth helps us all, that is how this project got so darn large in the first place
[18:34] <ScottK> nixternal: If it was a potential consulting gig (even if small), I'd think it was cool.  If it was just pawning him off on me and expecting me to give free help, I'd be annoyed.
[18:34] <nixternal> right, which is exactly why I am mulling this over
[18:34] <nixternal> the guy really can't afford to have a full support contract
[18:34] <ScottK> If they want to point people at local community support, they ought to use the loco or something.
[18:34] <nixternal> my next question is why didn't they send him to the market place?
[18:35] <ScottK> Right, well if he can afford an hour of your time, then it's a professional courtesy.
[18:35] <nixternal> they did, he stated "Ubuntu Chicago" and that I am the one running it
[18:35] <ScottK> Ah.
[18:35] <ScottK> OK.  Well that's a bit different.  If they sent it to you with a loco hat on, I think that's quite appropriate.
[18:36] <nixternal> I didn't paste that part cuz he had personal info attached in there
[18:36] <ScottK> OK
[18:36] <nixternal> typically I would charge, but in this case, the fact he is a small business and didn't choose Ubuntu because it would save him money, but he did his research
[18:36] <nixternal> he is not a techy at all, and he read up enough to set up a SAMBA server as a file server in his office
[18:37] <ScottK> Right.  With a loco hat on, I think that's entirely appropriate of you.
[18:37] <ScottK> Good for you for it too.
[18:37] <nixternal> all because a) he felt more secure, b) he could still use the machine as a desktop with less overhead than Windows, and c) because it was free
[18:37] <nixternal> sorry, even with the loco hat on, I would charge, except in certain cases
[18:38] <nixternal> ie. schools, religious facilities, and small businesses who make a good decision :)
[18:38] <ScottK> Yep.
[18:38] <nixternal> schools that don't have the money and are usually not-for-profit
[18:38] <nixternal> now our school system here, I just switched out their main line of servers to CentOS
[18:39] <nixternal> boy did they pay good
[18:39] <ScottK> I can imagine
[18:39] <nixternal> yet they are on tv complaining they can't afford to house any more students and that they have to cut staff
[18:41] <nixternal> its funny, I was telling jcastro about one I just did...they went with debian for their servers and had Ubuntu and Kubuntu for desktop machines...one guy picked Xubuntu cuz he liked the logo and it was really clean looking...out of the 5 women in the office, they chose Kubuntu. Everyone had the choice of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu for one guy, and Windows XP...all but 2 chose us :)
[18:43] <ScottK> Kewl
[19:05] <rgreening> ScottK: bug 424312 - FFe for arora (someone else filed an incomplete request). Can I add to it and subscribe the correct group?
[19:10] <Tonio_> rgreening: I've uploaded a hudge partch for arora, it would be nice to see if the branch I've gotten it from has ben updated or if it still applies
[19:11] <Tonio_> rgreening: the patch is for adblock support
[19:11] <Tonio_> rgreening: appart from that, well of course we should update ;)
[19:11] <rgreening> adblock is getting removed as per arora devs
[19:11] <rgreening> they really do not want it in its current state in arora
[19:11] <rgreening> talk to icefox
[19:12] <rgreening> I mean, I'm removing the adblock patch
[19:37] <Quintasan> hurr, I wanted to translate docs :S
[19:49] <Sput> hmmm... what happens if one runs MI within a KDE4 session, do the plasma notifications get disabled then?
[19:49] <Sput> or should apps disable that?
[19:54] <Sput> that is to say, should we disable knotify if the MI stuff is enabled...
[19:57] <rgreening> Sput: agateau would be best to discuss with. He's not here atm though.
[19:57] <Sput> yeah, he hangs around in #quassel usually :)
[19:58] <Sput> just thought maybe someone knows that off the top of his head :)
[19:58] <rgreening> he's the man
[19:58] <rgreening> I'd hate to state what I think, as I'd probably make a mistake :)
[19:58] <Sput> I can't play around with MI myself yet
[19:58] <Sput> though I think I'll have Gentoo package it in a couple week or so after upstream has stabilized it
[19:59] <rgreening> heh
[19:59]  * rgreening remembers packaging for gentoo 
[19:59] <rgreening> ebuild --build ...
[20:00] <rgreening> another lifetime
[20:00]  * Sput is probably gonna review agateau's Quassel patches later tonight, but as I said, I can't really test more than check if they compile and if the code makes sense :)
[20:00] <rgreening> sure, that would be a great start at any rate
[20:07] <rgreening> ScottK: I just uploaded arora to my PPA making sure it builds there for all platforms. Will test/install later. and upload FFe details. Will you review/sponsor or whatever is needed?
[20:45] <ScottK> As long as 'whatever is needed' doesn't compromise my morals and isn't very hard to do, sure.
[20:45] <ScottK> It's have been funnier if he were still around to get that.
[21:00] <Riddell> I laughed
[21:02] <ScottK> Glad to hear it.
[21:03] <ScottK> It looks like Quassel may be the world's only IRC client with a retroactive unignore feature.
[21:04] <Riddell> that sounds like a nice idea
[21:06] <ScottK> It's a side benifit of the way the implemented it with their database.  If you unignore someone then all of what they said comes back.
[21:16] <Mamarok> is there a known problem with the mail server? I have two users on the kubuntu-users list complaining about not getting diget mails anymore
[21:16] <Mamarok> their settings are ok
[21:20] <Sput> also we'll probably have a toggle button to temporarily show all client-side ignored messages, in case you just want to check something out :)
[22:06] <apachelogger> Riddell: do native packages require a complete copy of the gpl?
[22:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: no
[22:11] <Riddell> not by my reconing
[22:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: ok, thx :)
[22:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: I reall think we should handle the non-usplash installations of k-d-s using dh_install rather than the makefile
[22:26] <apachelogger> way less stuff to write, also less confusing and easier to maintain
[22:26] <Riddell> oh totally
[22:27] <Riddell> that was the first package I ever made and I didn't know any better and it was copied from something similar that used Make but it's ugly as anything
[22:27] <nixternal> kind of like kubuntu-docs?
[22:28] <Riddell> shtylman__: slideshow, what's the crack?
[22:29] <apachelogger> + kubuntu-installer-style package :{
[22:29] <apachelogger> :P even
[22:29] <nixternal> hehe
[22:44] <apachelogger> Riddell: I suppose we can nuke the kde3 configs?
[22:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes
[23:01] <apachelogger> revise revise
[23:18] <apachelogger> Riddell: moved to dh7 and dh_install, removed all the kde3 stuff... still need to restructure though
[23:18] <apachelogger> the current dir structure is just not compact enough
[23:19]  * apachelogger notes he only wanted to implement oxygen emoticons when he started working on kds today :S
[23:19] <apachelogger> gotta go to bed
[23:19] <apachelogger> nini
[23:19] <Riddell> thanks apachelogger