[00:00] i need help pls, i wanna play runescape again with my mozilla (i also tried konqueror but a big white screen appears...) [00:01] LuisJa, whoa calm down [00:01] T_T [00:01] why did you wait 5 days? actu? [00:01] yes... [00:01] i think he means update [00:01] what is actu? [00:02] actualization... [00:02] yeah, update [00:02] okay, I can play runescape fine here, you accepted the signed applet right? [00:02] did a security warning come up? [00:02] you're using official jre and not icedtea correct? [00:03] okay [00:03] i sudo aptitude java [00:03] secu warning didnt came up [00:04] hm [00:04] try this [00:04] sudo apt-get remove icedtea-gcjwebplugin [00:04] iirc ubuntu comes with icedtea by default which has issues with runescape [00:04] apt-get? [00:04] not aptitude? [00:04] use aptitude if you want [00:04] ok :) [00:05] package not installed [00:05] strange, runescape isn't running for me [00:05] u too????? [00:05] I'll debug and tell you what I find :P [00:05] ok [00:05] the thing is [00:05] it fails to start the appletviewer for some reason [00:06] i enter in "unsigned" mode [00:06] i have to choose world manually and i cannot play in HD [00:06] MASSIVE lag [00:06] oh I might have broken paths [00:07] does anyone know how to change the looks of programs that use kde3 libs, in kde4? [00:08] hmm it's loading in konqueror, must have broken paths somewhere :( [00:08] it's slow... but then again runescape is always slow :( [00:09] neva [00:09] mine is pretty fast [00:09] and i tried too with konqueror [00:09] and only a white screen appears :( [00:12] check this out: [00:12] http://pastebin.ca/1560450 [00:12] thats what runescape error page sasys [00:12] says* [00:13] how do i play runescape on mozilla [00:13] LOL [00:13] oh btw TD-Linux i was asking that too [00:13] maybe by mistake i clicked no to the accept java applet [00:14] but i dont remember [00:14] how i can apply yes if thats the case? [00:17] how can I install kdeaddons - more specifically i am trying to get some plugins for kate which from my searching so far seem to be part of a 'kdeaddons' package but when i do apt-get install kdeaddons I get the message "Package kdeaddons is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source" [00:19] Does any one have an idea how to set up dual monitors in 9.10? [00:19] this is what I am trying to install: http://i18n.kde.org/docs/doc-primer/kate.html - any help on how to do this on kubuntu would be much appreciated [00:20] TD-Linux: still there... [00:20] madberry, there is a good tutorial that outlines several different methods of doing it depending on your setup... not sure if is applicable to 9.10 but it worked for me when I followed it a while back, I'll see if i can find it [00:20] mfonda I'll try it if you can find it [00:21] madberry, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 [00:21] mfonda thanks [00:22] madberry, getting dual monitors set up was by far one of my most difficult linux experiences... it may take a while but don't give up ! [00:23] mfonda I kinda firgured it would be hard to do i'll get it done. I just get confused because there is no xorg.conf file [00:32] TD-Linux: ???????????? [00:39] madberry: but you can still use one [00:41] rober0800 I figured that out just now lol === madberry is now known as [mad]berry === [mad]berry is now known as madberry_ === madberry_ is now known as madberry === madberry is now known as [mad]berry === [mad]berry is now known as madberry [01:20] i just installed kubuntu but there is a problem flash only works when i run sudo konqueror else it doesnt load [01:20] any ideas [01:25] dhq: O_o running sudo (webbrowser) is one of the most risky (security-wise) things you can do, i mean, some hacker exploits a bug in a browser running as root, then bam, they got your whole system [01:26] g2g591: oh, but all my plugins only work when i sudo konqueror else they never load [01:27] dhq sounds like a permisions problem are they set to x for everyone? [01:27] madberry: how do i change it [01:27] do you know how to run chmod? [01:28] i do i did try chmod 777 ~/.mozilla/plugin/* [01:28] madberry: so tell me what exactly i need to do [01:30] how did you install the flash plugin? [01:31] madberry: flash non free from synaptics [01:32] reverse that action and then download and run perfectbuntu http://u.q3w.org/Nl [01:32] this will install flash (and a lot more) with correct permisions [01:39] madberry: i did that but still same problem [01:40] do you only havve this problem in Konqueror? Did you try Firefox? or Oprah? [01:41] firefox is ok [01:44] Did you try searching the bugtracker? [01:44] i any new === marco is now known as marco_ [01:46] madberry: i am new to kubuntu [01:47] ah that makes more sence lol [01:48] go here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ and search for simular problems you should find an answer there [01:49] madberry: there is some permission problems between root for the konquror plugin [01:49] how do i change the permission of all konqueror plugins === root0 is now known as obamanator [01:51] konqueror and Firefox etc. all use the same plugins if Firefox works then I don't see a permision problem any more. Please search the bugtracker first then report back. === obamanator is now known as twocarlo [01:53] just installed kubutu an hour ago [01:53] *kubuntu [01:54] madberry: i dint find any [01:57] madberry; to which directory im going to put the libflashplayer.so [01:58] it's already located in /usr/lib [01:59] you should point konqueror in that direction [01:59] wait [02:00] twocarlo did you use perfectbuntu? http://u.q3w.org/Nl [02:00] it install flash etc. for you [02:01] ic thanks for the info [02:01] madberry: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins all the plugins are in root permissions are they ok [02:02] don't change anything there or you will stop Firefox from working [02:02] madberry: can i compy them to my home directory and change permissions [02:03] Are you sure Konqueror is pointing to the right directory [02:04] it is pointing to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins [02:11] madberry: ?? [02:11] Service call hold on please [02:16] Would anyone in here be able to guide me through getting SKIM/Anthy working? [02:17] I'm asking in this manner because I don't believe many people need to bother using the programs and because I can't seem to figure out why they don't "just work" in the first place. [02:22] Greetings everybody. [02:24] hi! I have problem with "a simple example" ;) for gimp Script-Fu (http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Scheme/). I' done everything as there is written, but get only "batch command experienced an execution error" [02:24] cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/libflashplayer.so': Permission denied [02:24] root0@root0-desktop:~/Documents$ cp /home/root0/Documents/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib [02:24] cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/lib/libflashplayer.so': Permission denied [02:24] root0@root0-desktop:~/Documents$ [02:24] twocarlo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:25] madberry;cant copy the file [02:29] twocarlo use sudo [02:29] what up all [02:30] just tried out the newest KDE, im happy thats there is finally a working network manager [02:31] Does anybody in here type in Japanese in Kubuntu? [02:31] I could really use some help with Anthy. [02:32] romaji, kani, or katakana? [02:32] kanji [02:32] Kana and kanji. [02:33] I've never heard of a program that doesn't let you use all the alphabets. [02:33] there is no language pack for it? [02:33] Of course I've installed a Japanese language pack. [02:33] I've got fonts as well. Just no way to use a Japanese keyboard layout. [02:34] well, since japanese symbols correlate with sounds rather than letters it would be kinda hard [02:34] What? [02:34] i guess you could just use letters for everything, but thats a long way to go about it in japanese [02:34] You type romaji, the correct letters come up after you type them, then you hit space bar if you want to use kanji for that word. [02:35] i [02:35] 'll brb === promulo1 is now known as promulo [02:40] madberry: ?? [02:41] back [02:41] panko, do you speak japanese? [02:42] Yeah, and it's making it a pain to not be able to communicate online with people. [02:42] im just learning japanese through rosetta stone [02:42] you got skype? [02:43] id love someone to practice on once i get conversational [02:43] What level are you at on their programs? [02:43] just started, im on level one [02:44] it was cool to learn languages like japanese [02:47] konqueror(16045) NSPluginLoader::loadViewer: sleep -- help [02:54] hey [02:55] hello? can anyone help me im new [02:58] whats up brennan [02:58] ok so i cant get my wireless up [02:59] right click on the desktop and click add widget [02:59] then search for network in the search box [02:59] and when im on bit torrent it says that i am on wireless but im running it on a wire [02:59] add the networking widget to your desktop and you should be able to connect to your network [03:00] knetwork manager doesn't playnice with wireless, but ive had good luck with that new widget [03:00] which one? [03:00] if you search for network in the widgets you should see something that looks like a big 'M' [03:02] i got a globe with a box on it [03:03] sounds like knetwork manager, what KDE version are you using? [03:03] how do i find that out [03:04] argh, im on gnome right now [03:04] i can't think of how to do it on KDE [03:05] cool whats your manager called [03:05] im in gnome right now, i just use the gnome network manager, it works tons better [03:06] how i get gnome [03:06] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [03:07] will it wipe my stored data [03:07] no [03:08] restart? [03:08] no [03:08] ^peter^: are you peter? [03:08] just log out and change your session to gnome and log back in [03:08] k ill try [03:08] right now, i prefer gnome, but KDE is coming a long way, i think i might try it out again with karmic [03:09] what karmic [03:11] the next version of ubuntu [03:12] o cool [03:12] when out [03:12] october [03:19] question: How would setup X to distinguish keycodes between keyboards? For example, say I want keycode 160 from my usb keyboard to be assigned differently than keycode 160 on my usb headset. [03:21] guys ... [03:29] hello??? [03:30] o/ [03:32] whats the latest version of kde [03:32] i was thinkin bout installin 4.3..1 [03:35] ubuntu [03:35] webbb82 4.3.1 is the latest [03:35] is it pretty stable [03:36] yes using it right now haven't had any problems with it so far [03:36] cool [03:36] how do you get it [03:36] someone just said "kubuntu isn't ubuntu" [03:37] yeah it was really different [03:38] brennan: here ya go http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-kde-4-3-1-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html [03:44] i felt apache in Kubuntu is very different from those in other flavours of linux i've been using. I am very basic user and need to know only about how to get the website up and running. Is there a small howto somwhere that can help me to cope up with the kubuntu's version of apache? [03:48] njathan: The best place to start is the Ubuntu Server Guide, which has info about all server packages, including Apache. https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html [03:50] hey thanks stesterman, i went ran through the link and it looks like its exactly what i need... [03:52] There's also lots of other documentation provided by the community; just search http://help.ubuntu.com and be overwhelmed. ;-) === obamanator__ is now known as obamanator [04:02] i just installed kubuntu an hour ago [04:03] now im using quasselirc [04:04] how many packages are in gnome [04:04] bonjour [04:06] how can i run firefox [04:07] twocarlo: you're using kubuntu, correct? [04:11] If so, just open a konsole ( K Menu > Applications > System > Terminal ) and type "sudo aptitude install firefox" [04:11] anyone know why i would get this error when trying to install kde4.3 E: kubuntu-docs: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [04:13] stesterman: hey it was already here, i just updated kpakagekit and add firefox to it [04:13] twocarlo: even easier! :-D [04:19] how would i ftp to anther port. [04:20] i tried ftp host:port [04:20] but it didnt work [04:20] and -h didnt say anything about specifying a port. === Milk|out is now known as Milk === Milk is now known as ManOfMilk [04:33] Hmm ... [04:34] Hey, what package is proper iconv for kubuntu 9.10 to compile xine-lib ? [04:35] hey i kinda had a question does remastersys work with kubuntu 9.4 [04:35] hi [04:36] hi lubosz [04:36] i try to compile umbrello from svn, but i get a error [04:36] Unknown CMake command "kde4_install_icons". [04:36] i have kdelibs5-dev installed [04:37] what is the keystroke that is like alt tab.. but not.. and it's for widgets? [04:37] i guess, how do I bring up the widgets [04:38] how does this open desktop thing work [04:39] try ctrl f12 to show widgets [04:39] hrm, maybe it wasn't widgets then? =( i pressed a key and like alt tab it had a bunch of windows open [04:39] but I can't remember what they were [04:39] lol [04:39] damnit. [04:39] curse me for not paying more attention [04:42] hey i kinda had a question does remastersys work with kubuntu 9.4 [04:50] Why does /proc/bus/usb have no contents? [04:50] Isn't it supposed to list everything enumerated on my USB buses? [04:51] i just installed kde 4.3 and its pretty sluggish, i installed it befor and it wasnt this bad [04:52] under system monitor i have 116 apps [04:57] lsusb shows me a few items.. === vorian is now known as obama [05:21] Hello Guys [05:21] I hv a question : [05:21] DOes this statement is true for Ubuntu as well? [05:21] NOTE: Bash, as packaged for Debian, does not support using the [05:22] s [05:22] '/dev/tcp and /dev/udp files' [05:23] I'm trying to do something like " ~# cat /dev/tcp/localhost/80 " in ubuntu [05:23] it seems does not work [05:23] i just need the confirmation on this matter [05:31] Hmm ... great ... seems that then again it would be that Valmet has been going around the country killing of few persons around cause their some lead designers brother went doing things around the town on and they need huge cover ups around on things really. -.- [05:35] That was totally offtopic i know ... just wanted to give out my thoughts. =( [05:35] Also doing compile on xine-lib fails cause of "about nls" thing im not too sure of. -.- === me is now known as Guest55494 === Guest55494 is now known as stillcen [05:46] does anyone know how to set up some kind of temporary hosts file? When I'm on my local network I want some addiitonal entries in my hosts file === jason is now known as jason__ [06:01] not able to send file in my mobile using bluetooth...anyone help..? [06:05] not able to send file in my mobile using bluetooth...anyone help..? [06:05] pls reply.....!! [06:05] help her === ManOfMilk is now known as Milk|ZzzZ [06:47] pls tell me how can i send file in my mobile using bluetooth.. [07:12] do anyone know where jockey save the downloaded files? [07:15] mostafa what is Jockey? [07:21] madberry: excuse me for being late jockey-kde [07:21] just run it via terminal u c [07:23] mostafa_: you mean the .debs? [07:24] jussi01: what? [07:24] [09:12:33] do anyone know where jockey save the downloaded files? [07:24] mostafa_: you mean the .debs? [07:25] mostafa_: Im guessing they will be in: /var/cache/apt/archives/ [07:25] jussi01: oh I understand you now bro [07:26] jussi01: you mean it downloads a file to the debs folder [07:26] ? [07:26] jussi01: but I don't think so [07:31] <`Onyx> Is there a yahoo mail widget for kde? [07:33] where can I find the default font and sizes for kde? I changed them all and I cannot figure out what the original settings were [07:45] Quick question: Can Amarok play WMA files? How can I make this happen? OR, if not, Is there an app to convert wma files in aac, mp3, etc? [07:46] hellhound, 32x32 [08:06] Hello's [08:07] I'm having trouble with kdialog in KDE4.3, instead of being the nicely integrated ones I get the old school yellow bubbles [08:12] Guten Morgen #kubuntu [08:12] sagt mal wie finde ich denn nun am besten raus ob ich 32 oder 64bit installiert habe? [08:14] anyone here get flash10 working? I installed it and it says its installed but all sites show I have no flash [08:15] DarkriftX: yup, works fine for me in swiftfox [08:15] 9 works great, but 10 doesnt work at all [08:16] how can i find infos about installing 32 or 64 bit [08:16] i installed 10 a few days ago for something specific and it didnt work. today i tried to go to hulu in chrome and i got an error about flash not working. I tried firefox and it worked fine, but showed flash9. I then uninstalled flash9 and 10 and reinstalled 10 and both browsers now show no flash [08:16] and now that I just removed flash10 and put 9 back, both browsers work fine :( [08:17] mac_: I was looking for a solution [08:17] mac_: Best I can offer is this: open a console and type: ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/ [08:17] mac_: if that shows 64bit packages, your using a 64bit system [08:18] thank you riano.. i go and install new :( [08:18] DarkriftX: For a really long time I had both installed [08:18] 32bit... [08:18] mac_: works just as fine for me ;) [08:19] what with ram i have 6 gb installed. can work the 32bit version with 6gb? [08:19] sorry for bad english [08:19] no, you'd be accessing 3.8GB at best [08:20] okay, i go and install new :D [08:20] hehe [08:20] good luck :) [08:20] thank you [08:20] but first i need a new iso [08:24] in the fstab to mount a extra hdd in a home dir = UUID=id /home/user/dir ext3 user,rw,exec 0 2 , is that correct? [08:31] mac_: for me it's UUID=id /here/it/goes ext4 relatime 0 2 [08:32] okay i will testing :) [08:32] dangit, too fast [08:33] Anyone alive out there, could you try running kdialog --passivepopup "foo bar" 4 in a console for me and tell me if you get the nice plasma integrated popup or a yellow bubble? [08:35] pls tell me how can i send file in my mobile using bluetooth.. [08:40] riano: nice plasma one [08:41] interesting.. jussi01, which KDE are you running, 4.3? [08:41] riano: Im on karmic, so I think this is 4.3.1 or so [08:41] oo [08:41] * jussi01 looks [08:41] time to upgrade! :D [08:42] yep, 4.3.1 [08:42] if it works on Karmic that's a good reason for me to update [08:42] I'm on 4.3.1 as well, Jaunty though [08:42] riano: this is probably heading a bit into offtopic ness for here, care to join #kubuntu-offtopic to chat? (Im there) [08:43] nuh, s'ok, I'm kinda focused on trying to get this fixed [08:43] thanks though! [08:49] how can i clear all the pending dependancies...as i m not able to install any thing new.. [08:50] i m having broken dependancies on my system .. === _MinusSeven is now known as MinusSeven === johan is now known as Guest26477 [09:04] Hi all! is there a package for the kdelibs api documentation on kubuntu jaunty? Can't find it... [09:05] Lacsap: not sure to understand what you call "kdelibs api documentation" [09:05] Bou: it's what you find at api.kde.org [09:06] Lacsap: have you tried to ask on #kde-devel? [09:06] Lacsap: heading there, first time I see this url :) [09:06] Bou: do you develop for KDE? then you should know... [09:06] hi! [09:06] Does anybody know, how to make GotView USB2.0 MASTERSTICK work? [09:07] Bou: ok, I'm on the wrong channel... [09:07] one time more ;) [09:07] Lacsap: i don't :) but if you develop for KDe you should know #kde-devel :p [09:07] will never get used to IRC ;) [09:07] hehe [09:07] Bou: I'm just beginning with KDE development... [09:07] Tahnx for the advise [09:07] Thanx [09:08] Lacsap: i'd like to start one day too.. what are are you starting with? [09:08] look for Babeleo at kde-look.org [09:09] Lacsap: you wrote it? [09:09] :-( [09:09] yes I did, want to learn c++ and qt :) [09:10] Lacsap: you mean, you started to learn c++ and qt when writing this plasmoid? [09:10] Bou: yes, I have experiences with java, it's not so difficult... My main project is http://www.bongosoft.de, it's a program in java [09:11] when you know a few programming languages, it's quite easy to learn new ones... [09:11] right [09:15] does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files? [09:17] i m having broken dependencies so i cant install package from kpackagekit [09:17] any solution === jason is now known as Guest12525 === vadviktor1 is now known as vadviktor [09:45] hi everyone! I've just installed on ubuntu 9.04 Kget 2.2.2 and I can't set the speed limits for each download. I click on right bottom mouse and go on "transfer setting" but when I'm there i can't modify the values! There is any on who can help me?? [10:10] hi, i am on kubuntu kde 4.3.1 and cannot make many widgets work,getting the message "Could not create Scriptengine for python" [10:11] can someone tell me how to work this out??this has been for long time, hoped it would be fixed through updates,but no luck so far.... [10:14] Assurbanipal: try installing python-plasma package (if any) [10:14] Assurbanipal: sudo apt-get install python-plasma ? [10:15] Bou: it is already installed [10:18] Assurbanipal: i think i had this problem too but can't remember how i fixed it... try to ask on #kde or #plasma maybe? [10:19] Bou: tnx anyway mate... === Unksi_ is now known as Unksi === adam is now known as Guest21129 === william is now known as Guest35122 [12:01] how do I remove / move widgets from my application desktop in netbook remix? === mirco__ is now known as mirco === oszi is now known as Fibonacci [12:20] Hi all [12:21] I am trying to update some of my packages, but the automatic updater is telling "Blocked" [12:21] what is going on and how can I make those updates? [12:21] I have just finished installing kubuntu 9.04 [12:22] there were 157 updates, all went smoothly except those 4 blocked updates [12:26] anybody here? [12:26] mouka: try running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [12:26] what would that do? [12:27] mouka: are you familiar with the cli? [12:27] I am very comfortable with the cli [12:27] but I was wondering what that does [12:27] I have just installed the latest release [12:27] mouka: those commands update the repository list, then upgrades the packages [12:27] and installed the 157 updates [12:27] hey after working on my laptop for long time in kubuntu it slows down...is there any command in konsole which can free my ram memory.. [12:28] mouka: kpackage kit has a small bug which it doesnt do some updates. this does those ones. [12:28] Man, it's going to eat up 173 MB of space [12:29] mouka: I suspect its a kernel update, no? [12:29] I see, Thanks [12:29] yep indeed [12:29] it was a kernel update that was blocked [12:29] what is the benefit to do that blocked kernel update... [12:29] mouka: yeah, Ive seen that before on here, the dist-upgrade sorts it. [12:30] cool, thanks for the help [12:30] why to do that blocked update...what will it do..? [12:30] i also have those updates blocked....i dont do it as it will eat my 172 MBs [12:30] Shrey: it gives the newer kernel, which has security or other fixes [12:31] jussi01: will it make kubuntu more stable and faster..? [12:33] jussi01: pls anyone reply...? [12:33] Shrey: do you have an intel graphics card? [12:34] ya i have.intel graphics card..its onboard.. [12:34] there's something that leaks memory, it seems to be caused by using kubuntu with intel gfx [12:34] I have the same problem; swap fills up [12:36] i m nubee...how to swap... [12:36] ? [12:37] Shrey: what is you problem? [12:37] hey i have this problem pls do u know.....when i work on kubuntu for long time..it slows down..than i have to restart it..is there a way to clear ram and cache while running.. [12:38] you can press Ctrl+Esc to see which process is running [12:38] and then terminate that one [12:39] there are many processes .. [12:40] under CPU column you can see the precentage of a process [12:40] when it is higher than normal and it is strange you can terminate it [12:41] kooll....thanks.. [12:41] your welcome [12:43] hey i want to add swap memory...so from where it will take memory..from the partition on which i have installed kubuntu.. [12:44] and if i dont feel any cange can i delete swapping...? [12:48] Shrey: the best thing is to wait for karmic and install that when it comes out, there's a new driver for intel gfx [12:48] Shrey: your dot key is broken? [12:49] other than that, I find that restarting Firefox releases a lot of memory ;) [12:49] bigjools: thanks [12:49] bigjools: i think firefox can be problem as i use it [12:50] it's not the whole problem, but it doesn't help for sure [12:54] Hi all [12:54] where can i find ubiquity config files? === oszi is now known as Fibonacci [12:57] Could someone tell me where to change the effect of CTRL+scroll bar? [13:29] Howdy [13:36] hi i have an problem while configure can someone help me please? [13:37] philipp__: shoot away [13:37] heres the error: checking for KDE... configure: error: [13:37] in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail. [13:37] So, check this please and use another prefix! [13:38] philipp__: oh thats easy,install kde-devel and use : cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` [13:38] ok i'll try thx [13:39] shouldn't i do ./configure? [13:40] philipp__: if that file is there then yes [13:41] sry i don't understand what exactly should i do? [13:42] philipp__: run ./configure first,then make [13:42] ah ok thx [13:42] hey shadeslayer [13:42] Gamarok__: oh hai [13:42] do you mean cmake? [13:43] philipp__: no i mean make [13:43] philipp__: make and sudo make install [13:43] but i told you i got an error while configure [13:44] philipp__: oh are you using ./configure with some prefix? [13:44] no [13:44] philipp__: what are you trying to compile? [13:45] i m not able to send file using my bluetooth anybody help.. [13:45] !bluetooth | Shrey [13:45] Shrey: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [13:45] ksplash-engine-moodin-0.4.2 [13:45] philipp__: oh noes..... thats KDE 3.x [13:45] oh is there an other one? [13:46] philipp__: sorry mate that wont compile in 4.3,i failed when i tried last time [13:46] philipp__: no,the moodin engine is for KDE 3.x *only* [13:46] and what can i do now? [13:47] because i want to install an login screen [13:47] philipp__: you use kdm [13:47] !kdm | philipp__ [13:47] Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm [13:47] !info kdm | philipp__ [13:47] philipp__: kdm (source: kdebase-workspace): KDE Display Manager for X11. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 1226 kB, installed size 3344 kB === axel is now known as Guest64757 [13:47] do you think it'll work? [13:48] philipp__: kdm? [13:48] yes? [13:48] should we talk private? [13:49] philipp__: kdm will work,and no queries please [13:49] ok [13:49] philipp__: i said no [13:49] hey i had a question does remastersys work with kubuntu 9.4 [13:49] Hello! How can I connect with KDE4.2 (Kubuntu 9.04) with a WEP (hex) encrypted wlan? (The key is not accepted.) [13:50] hello [13:51] how can i delete source files? [13:51] anyone? [14:00] !jaunty [14:00] Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904 - Please use !torrents [14:07] hello [14:08] anyone there to help me? I want to delete source files and directories but it says access denied [14:08] bhabalinux: ok what do you want to delete [14:09] bhabalinux: i mean where are these files located? [14:14] hi [14:15] how can i delete source files? [14:15] it says access denied [14:15] bhabalinux: where are these files located? [14:15] desktop [14:16] i trashed it [14:16] one directory is in trash can [14:16] bhabalinux: well it could be roots desktop or some other programme could have placed them on your desktop [14:16] no no [14:16] I downloaded some packages and unzipped it [14:17] but couldn't install [14:17] and I wanted to delete them [14:17] bhabalinux: bianry packages or tarballs? [14:17] but I couldn't [14:17] tarballs === snoblack is now known as Snowblack [14:17] and I unzipped it [14:18] bhabalinux: not in a query [14:19] bhabalinux: what program is this btw? [14:19] koffice [14:19] i installed with package manager [14:20] bhabalinux: sudo rm -rf /path/to/folder [14:22] how can i go to trashcan? [14:23] bhabalinux: no idea on that.... [14:24] ok [14:24] thank you [14:26] hello all, i want to install a *buntu from a running system (kubuntu jaunty) to a external hd [14:26] because the device (a lifebook, very old) had no usb-boot-support [14:27] could someone show me a tutorial to make that? [14:27] is it possible with a installer? [14:29] hope, someone could give me a answer [14:29] i didn't found something in google [14:29] skamster___: theres a usb-creator [14:30] aah, good.. :D [14:30] skamster___: that can install a ISO to a external HD or USB [14:30] !info usb-creator [14:30] but could i also write then? [14:30] usb-creator (source: usb-creator): Ubuntu USB desktop image creator. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1.16 (jaunty), package size 26 kB, installed size 556 kB [14:30] skamster___: yes,you can select how much memory to use for storing your files [14:31] great! [14:31] thx [14:31] :) [14:35] ehm, just a little question more.. i'm know, i'm in the wrong channel for this, but do you know if xubuntu-alternate had a gui? [14:36] skamster___: The alternate install cds are all cli based, but they all install systems that have a graphical interface. [14:36] perfect [14:36] :) === marcio is now known as Guest11502 [14:54] * genii sips [14:59] hey genii [14:59] eagles0513875: Hiya === oszi is now known as Fibonacci [15:06] hey genii , I'm trying to setup a mixed linux / windows newtwork ..since adding karmic to the laptop , kubuntu's no longer connect like they did when I was using samba . Samba is fine for windows /linux . linx to linux however is not . [15:06] Does anyone know how to solve the problem with ubiquity install? [15:06] crashes on 79% [15:06] UserSetupApply error [15:08] genii, I'm following this tutorial , but as usual it assumes understanding of certin unfamiliar terms https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo [15:08] BluesKaj: I found that kdenetwork-filesharing module seems needed for some reason [15:10] genii, ok thanks Ill search [15:23] what should I install to be able to view pictures and images? [15:23] I downloaded 2 pictures, tried opening them up, but my system does not know which application to associate with pictures [15:26] !info gwenview [15:26] gwenview (source: kdegraphics): image viewer for KDE 4. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 1249 kB, installed size 2272 kB === kelly is now known as kelly__ === aaroncampbell_ is now known as aaroncampbell === tlahtine is now known as moto === moto is now known as moto-- === L is now known as Guest70305 [16:00] ** Kubuntu meeting in two minutes in #ubuntu-meeting === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [16:01] looks like I pulled a booboo here, at login I get this message : Cannot enter home directory. Using /. but then it just loops back to the login scrn ..I've never encountered this before [16:01] <-- on irssi [16:04] well this Quassel client is interesting [16:07] at the tty prompt after login, it says "No directory logging in with HOME=/ " [16:08] think I just lost my /home dir :( [16:13] exit [16:19] are a bunch of the repositories down? I can't update my packages list... [16:20] xevil: try switching servers [16:21] thanks === fkg is now known as Aeternum === bullgard is now known as bullgard4 [16:45] wie kann ich denn hier noch mal den chanel wechseln!? [16:52] BYE [16:57] any one here know about networking... === sistemalinux is now known as CoelhoBranco [16:59] Shrey: If you just describe your networking question, someone may take it up [16:59] i want to share my internet connection of my laptop with my mobile...via bluetooth [17:00] i m having motorola . [17:00] it also have linux as OS [17:00] alguem aqui realmente saca de linux para trocar ideia [17:00] ou são todos usuarios ? [17:01] !br | CoelhoBranco [17:01] CoelhoBranco: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. === snoblack is now known as Ubuntero [17:04] anybody here really means something linux ? [17:25] where can i find wastebin? [17:26] he;;p [17:26] hello [17:28] hi, i have some problems to install xmms [17:32] i unpacked the xmms.tar - now i type in the ./configure - and now i have to "make" - but there stands, that no make data found === john is now known as Guest79857 === Guest79857 is now known as john_ [17:45] !info xmms2 [17:45] xmms2 (source: xmms2): Client/server based media player system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5DrLecter-2ubuntu3 (jaunty), package size 14 kB, installed size 56 kB [17:45] Hm [17:46] enzi: You're installing it from a tarball when a package exists already.... any reason? [17:46] i extracted the tar.gz file [17:49] enzi: There is an Add/Remove Applications under System from where you can install things without needing to get tarballs, untar them, configure make make install and so on. [17:49] i also made the ./configure [17:49] make is not possible [17:49] no MAKE STARTPUNKTE [17:51] enzi: My question is... why are you at all doing configure/make and so on when all you require is to install it by something like: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xmms2 and it is done [17:51] k [17:54] so i did it, and now?? [17:54] enzi: So then it is installed [17:55] cool [17:56] at terminal i typed "xmms2" but i cant start it... [17:56] i am total new at Linux, sry [17:58] enzi: The manpage (Manual Page) for it is at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/xmms2.1.html to show you the usage === jscudder_ is now known as scudder === khoubeib_____ is now known as khoubeib [18:09] i need some help with my display [18:11] olie: Well, you could try asking about it on the #kubuntu irc channel. [18:12] isnt tht what this is [18:14] Yes, but saying you have a problem really doesn't do any good. Asking a specific question or describing your problem is far more likely to get a useful response. [18:15] oh sorry, well its my display the taskbars are below what i can see, thers no option to resize my desktop === dario is now known as Billy [18:23] do i have to fiddle about with xorg to get my display right? === |GuS| is now known as [GuS_atWork] [18:29] dusted off my kubuntu box, and after updating to 9.04 i saw that the fglrx driver is no more... now it uses the radeon driver, but it seems like i've lost hardware acceleration. [18:29] I've got a Radeon 9600 Pro [18:31] Hi all,... why does kmail not ask for my gpg passphrase when I want to encrypt an e-mail. Instead I get an error: "Wrong passphrase" === hamit_ is now known as hamit [18:35] hi [18:37] isnt ther a program for kubuntu tht could resize my resolution [18:38] olie: krandrtray should beable to [18:39] thnk you James1 [18:42] is dont work [18:43] olie: whats wrong with your resolution? [18:43] it seems stretched [18:43] the taskbars arnt in my veiw [18:44] olie: do you know the current resalution and native resalution of your screen? [18:45] the current resolution is 1280 x 720 i dont know what the native one is [18:46] olie: hmm, guessing you dont have a widescreen monitor? [18:47] oh it is widescreen its my 32inch tv [18:47] So you want 1920x1080 [18:50] that dosent work either the taskbar is still below my vision [18:50] olie: if there is no option to change resalution in kde then you will probally have to edit your xorg.conf file. If you have a nvidia graphcs card you can use nvidia-settings to edit it for you [18:50] !info kxgenerator [18:50] kxgenerator (source: kxgenerator): KDE X Server configuration utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7+dfsg-3ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 162 kB, installed size 644 kB [18:50] * genii sips [18:54] ive just installed kxgenerator but cant find out where it installed [18:55] olie: I dident get a menu entry either, just ran it from command line [18:55] ooohhh thnx James1 [19:00] Hi all,... why does kmail not ask for my gpg passphrase when I want to encrypt an e-mail. Instead I get an error: "Wrong passphrase" [19:02] olie: alt+f2 (run command ) will launch it without needing to keep the shell open [19:02] okies thnx BluesK [19:04] hello [19:04] anybody with experience on USB intallation? [19:05] darkvega8: what you need help with? [19:05] is about the casper-rw [19:05] i want to check how much space is left [19:06] i understadn that this is what makes it persitent [19:06] but i have no tools, or i do not know them, to check availability of space [19:08] darkvega8: df -h will list free space of mounted drives [19:10] ok, [19:11] darkvega8: An easy way to create live usbs is you use usb-creator(-kde), [19:12] yes, cool, my usb is already made [19:13] but before installing to much software, i need to know, how much space i have left [19:14] it's been the 3rd time I reinstall it, if i simply update the system then I can't rstart the sytem, it says disk too full [19:22] still no luck with my resolution [19:27] its a dvi cable, my vga one worked fine [19:32] Hi all,... why does kmail not ask for my gpg passphrase when I want to decrypt an e-mail. Instead I get an error: "Wrong passphrase" [19:38] in windows nvidia settings you can resize the resolution, how do u do it in kubuntu? [19:38] olie: with nvidia settings maybe ? :p [19:39] the settings arnt ther phh [19:39] olie: they are [19:39] olie: use the "X Server Display Configuration" tab to do so [19:41] but u ccant resize it using the sliders [19:41] which sliders ? [19:41] juste expand the resolution list === pratik is now known as pratik_narain [19:57] can i remove ubuntu-desktop via apt-get [19:58] pratik_narain: you can [19:59] pratik_narain: it think it ill remove gnome or anything alse [19:59] James147: actually I installed kubuntu-desktop on standard ubuntu jaunty installation and i like kde more. so can i remove gnome for good [20:00] pratik_narain: wont remove [20:00] ^^ [20:01] James147: why not [20:02] pratik_narain: ubuntu-desktop only links to other packages, dont think apt-get removed them [20:03] James147: so i'll have to remove software that I dont use 1 by1 [20:03] pratik_narain: you can try apt-get autoremove but not sure if that will help [20:04] pratik_narain: most likly, not exatly sure how autoremove works, but it can get most packages that you dont need anymore [20:05] pratik_narain: you can try sudo aptitude, its more interactive you should beable to find the ubuntu-desktop package and see all packages it depends on [20:05] !purekde [20:05] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [20:08] ubottu: will they work on jaunty [20:08] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [20:09] ubottu: will they work on jaunty === liberfiasco is now known as memenode [20:10] hi i have 2 problem ,, first one i have ipod touch and i install ipod-convenience then i do ipod-touch-monut ,, i got this error : Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. so i do this command : sudo usermod -a -G fuse geek ,, and i got this msg : geek is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [20:19] Sicilia: sounds like you don't have administrative privileges [20:20] mm [20:20] can you install anything? [20:20] no [20:20] i have problem with sudo === ruben_ is now known as Guest43440 [20:21] can you login as root? [20:22] yes [20:22] but on recover mode only [20:22] then let's find a guid to fix your sudo privliges [20:22] ok i hope [20:23] How do i find broken packages? I go to broken packages in synaptic package manager but nothings there. [20:26] Sicilia: go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers see if it helps [20:26] !sudo [20:26] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE) [20:26] !crosspost [20:26] Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [20:27] thanks [20:27] How do i find broken packages? I go to broken packages in synaptic package manager but nothings there. [20:27] pitput: aptitude search ~b i think will work [20:27] my firefox gone bananas, so I can't read it myselt ATM [20:28] pitput: sudo aptitude install -f will attempt to fix broken packages [20:28] Ey [20:28] just installed 9.04 64bits on my desktop :) [20:29] James147, sudo aptitude search ~b? [20:29] pitput: aptitude search dosent need root [20:29] anybody here there knows about dual monitor ? [20:30] both my monitors shows the same, but I want monitor #2 to be on desktop #4 [20:30] James147, ... It now says that I have no broken packages.. weird! [20:30] I have a ATI Radeon HD 4650 gfx card [20:32] laeborg: does the kde controll panel show them both [20:32] what control panal ? [20:33] system settings... [20:33] Display under System Settings show them both [20:33] and the option to specify they're placement is disabled, right? [20:34] (it only let's you select orientetion) [20:34] i can change size and rotation [20:34] *orientation [20:35] I can select size and refresh too [20:35] well, as far as I know you need do add a line to you're xorg.conf file to specify the size of you're virtual desktop [20:36] http://www.zulustips.com/2007/04/01/dual-monitors-howto.html [20:38] my screens are called CRT1 and CRT2 [20:40] ok, look at http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html at the buttom of the page there is a line in bold that says Virtual 2048 2048 [20:40] yes [20:41] you need to add a line like that to you're xorg.conf with a resolution that will fit bouth your screens in it [20:42] i only have one "Screen" section in my xorg.conf [20:42] oh sorry :P [20:42] that's ok [20:43] Virtual "1366x768", like that ? [20:44] what's the resolution you are going to use for both your screens? [20:44] 1366x768 [20:44] 59.9hz [20:45] so you either need 2632 768 for side by side or 1366 1536 for above below. you can use bigger [20:46] okay, i try that. restarting x :) [20:48] ok, laeborg, now you should be able to edit the settings in the system settings->display [20:48] I hope [20:48] what should i change ? [20:49] can you now select position? [20:49] no only resize and rotate [20:50] http://www.myupload.dk/showfile/3126166f5e4.png/ === faydriss is now known as cuznt [20:54] did you use virtual "x" or virtual ? [20:54] the last [20:55] http://pastebin.com/m627eab87 [20:57] umm, in http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ati-radeon-dual-monitor-setup-on-ubuntu-8.10-680669/ someone says that he installed the ati catalyst control center from the repositories [20:58] and was then able to set it up from a gui [20:58] i downloaded it from ati's homepage [21:00] did you run it? dis it show error messages? [21:00] dis->did [21:00] no errors [21:01] does it let you setup the screens? [21:03] just found the Catalyst Control Center in my menu. will try that [21:05] Could some please explain what software is needed to make amarok steam from upnp / daap media server. Thanks. [21:05] martin101: you can try joining the #amarok channle [21:05] now one of the monitors died :/ [21:05] I asked there this afternoon and everyone seemed mute! [21:06] well, there is also the issue of user distribution around the globe... [21:07] amarok works in kubuntu as expected and streams but I'm trying to setup an arch distro, and their irc channels seems rather uninformed as to what is needed, i'm sure I'm missing some daemon or something [21:08] Any ideas about how to make kwin animations smoother?I am using Nvidia & kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.3.1 [21:09] KiRiLoS: it may be specific to your GFX card type. also, compiz is faster then kwin, but it has it's problems [21:10] kwin is great with intel drivers, are you sure your nvidia card is setup properly KiRiLoS? [21:10] avihay, i tried compiz,but i think i'm gonna stick with kwin(Although i prefer Compiz,i just hate the integration problems).Compiz runs great with me GFX,but kwin seems to be sluggy,i just think there is something wrong with my settings... [21:11] martin101, it seems to be ok just like i said bfr it works like a charm with compiz,on the same exact machine/install... [21:12] martin101: I have an intel card and it is slow enough to prefer working without, even when I don't need performence [21:12] so it is very card dependent [21:12] it is slow enough-> kwin [21:12] strange, I use to use gnome with compiz, but I find kde with kwin to be on par and I like that it's an intergral part of the DE [21:13] *not an addon [21:13] KiRiLoS what compositing type are you using? [21:14] martin101, OpenGL with texture from pixmap mode [21:14] I like the idea too, it's great, just work too slow on some cards to be usable. [21:15] KiRiLoS: if you find a fix, and you see me online, please tell me [21:15] I found that on kde 4.0 and 4.1 but since 4.2 is works floorless [21:16] floorless = in midair / always flying? [21:16] it works great! [21:16] kwin is definately more than usable with my GFX but i just wonder if there is something i can do in order to achieve compiz-like smoothness [21:16] KiRiLoS have you go "Enable Direct Rendering" enabled? [21:17] of course martin101 [21:18] hi ,, i have problem with sudo >> geek is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [21:18] strange, I wouldn't know how to improve performance, sorry mate! how about give a daily image of 9.10 a try to see if that is any improvement? [21:21] hola [21:21] hi [21:21] ke pasa ai o kajondioas [21:21] jj [21:21] merda todo ostia [21:21] vaia foira [21:21] hi ,, i have problem with sudo >> geek is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [21:21] kobelos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. === mr is now known as Guest47488 [21:24] Sicilia2: from your root logon, try running usermod -a -G admin geek [21:25] why are there lots of versions of firefox to choose from under jaunty === william is now known as Guest85228 [21:25] avihay, that`s it ?! [21:25] shouldn't be a difference if you are useing recovery mode [21:25] I was running firefox 3.0 because I didn't know I could choose versions [21:25] avihay, yes i can use sudo in recovery mode but now i can`t [21:26] Sicilia2: I think so, it will add your user, to the admin group. if your sudoers file has the line %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL in it, then it should work [21:26] when you are the root user, you don't need sudo [21:26] avihay, so i have another problem with ipod-touch ,, i can`t mount it >> look >> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. [21:27] sudo ipod-touch-mount [21:27] Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. [21:27] I know [21:27] once you can sudo, you can mount too [21:27] errr [21:27] emm [21:27] ok thanks [21:27] i will try it [21:27] once you add [21:27] sec [21:27] mm [21:28] once you add yourself to the fuse group, you can mount it [21:28] ok [21:28] thanks [21:30] hello [21:30] tud itt valaki magyarul? [21:31] !ro | jano_ [21:31] jano_: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro [21:34] Does anyone know if the new 2.6.31 linux kernel will be in Karmic? [21:34] bbeck: you should ask in #ubuntu+1, all Karmic question should go there [21:34] see also the channel topic [21:38] lol, best logoff message: ("I ♥ Unicode"). [21:42] Is anyone else in the US or Canada having trouble getting to us.archive.ubuntu.com or ca.archive.ubuntu.com? [21:44] stesterman: The ca was sluggish earlier, seems fine now === Guest96465 is now known as Sicilia2 [21:46] genii: Thanks. Still no joy here; I'm able to tracepath as far as London and then nothing. [21:46] avihay, hi again [21:46] avihay, same thing nothing happen [21:47] can you sudo? [21:47] no [21:47] i cant [21:47] try sudo ls [21:47] I'm in Toronto and pings/traces fine. Looks like some intermediate box in your route, near London [21:47] i cant [21:47] I heart AT&T. :-D [21:50] humm, ok, try "cat /etc/sudoers | grep admin" shold show you a cople of lines. your /etc/sudoers file should look like in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers [21:52] avihay, any idea ? [21:54] hi [21:56] quick one, whenever I run _anything_ (compiz, sl for example) open GL the whole machine freezes, I got ATI Radeon x1300(I think or it's x1550 but their the same chip right?) [21:57] Sicilia2: humm, ok, try "cat /etc/sudoers | grep admin" shold show you a cople of lines. your /etc/sudoers file should look like in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers [21:57] ok [21:57] thanks [22:15] good evening, my printer has suddenly stopped working, [22:16] it was working earlier, I then deleted the print job and added a new one, but the new job will not print [22:17] I have had to create pdf's and print them via windows in virtualbox [22:17] where do I satart looking for printer errors [22:17] thanks [22:19] quick one, whenever I run _anything_ (compiz, sl for example) open GL the whole machine freezes, I got ATI Radeon x1300(I think or it's x1550 but their the same chip right?) === sergio is now known as sirviente [22:25] I'm using kubuntu jaunty. [22:25] I tried to update the java-sun-6-jdk and I received messages that the java, javac, etc, from /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ were corrupted. [22:25] I discovered that the first line of these files had the value 1 or 0 and for the "update-alternatives --config" it must be aouto or manual. [22:25] I guess that this problem (if it's a mess) was done by the alternatives configurator inside systemsettig from kde. Could it be? [22:25] reinaldo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [22:25] Ok. Sorry. It's my first time using the IRC [22:34] can I reset sound driver without rebooting? [22:38] google answered me: sudo alsa force-reload ! cool [22:53] quick one, whenever I run _anything_ (compiz, sl for example) open GL the whole machine freezes, I got ATI Radeon x1300(I think or it's x1550 but their the same chip right?) [22:54] Thor^^: not a quick one. Could be drivers, but generally 3d stuff is still unstable and likely to crash. [22:55] does anybody know how to set up a FTP server? (just for local network computers) i get an "address in use" error [22:56] collette check the hosname used it sounds like it has been set to a address (IP or otherwise) that is already in use [22:58] jhutchins_lt: ok, this is how quick it can be: where do i find the damn ati propritary drivers? they hide well in the wiki [22:59] madberry where can i find it/ [22:59] i tryed going to localhost but nothing came up [23:00] coilette: /etc/ftpd.conf? [23:00] Thor^^: That's 'cause they're proprietary and *buntu doesn't have them ATI does. [23:01] there still usally are some kind of wiki entry about it. right? [23:01] http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx [23:03] The wiki is only what people make it. [23:05] thor^^ does not exist [23:08] Thor^^: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedDrivers [23:13] thank you stesterman === word_ is now known as word [23:22] Hello everyone :> I'm thinking of giving KDE 4 a try after the relatively bad experience of the 4.0.x releases ;> Should I stick with the default for 9.04 (4.2 I believe), or go with the 4.3.1 version in backports? === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [23:24] prower: In my opinion 4.2 is not bad. it's better then explorer.exe :-> , it's way better then 4.0.4 [23:25] if you want to try and experiment, you can get 4.3, but if you want stability, 4.2 is more then enough [23:25] avihay: Ahh, well that's good news then :> KDE 4.2 is packaged by default and I much prefer a stable system to an unstable one, ha [23:29] prower: if you install from a cd, make sure to update to the latest version of 4.2, there is a difference [23:40] 4.x is still very much a work in progress. [23:40] I don't think there's anything to be gained by staying with older versions, anything in backports should be as good as that particular package gets. === madberry is now known as help === help is now known as Guest39761 === Guest39761 is now known as P3rnici0se === P3rnici0se is now known as help === help is now known as P3rnici0se === P3rnici0se is now known as logout === logout is now known as P3rnici0se [23:52] I tried to update the java-sun-6-jdk and I received messages that the java, javac, etc, from /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/ were corrupted. I discovered that the first line of these files had the value 1 or 0 and for the "update-alternatives --config" it must be aouto or manual. I guess that this problem (if it's a mess) was done by the alternatives configurator inside systemsettig from kde. Could it be? I'm using Kubunut 9.04 === fontknocker is now known as fontknocker|away === janos is now known as janos__