[08:50] <d0od> how did the second artwork drop go? Anything new and awesome?
[12:40] <mac_v> kwwii: saw the final version of the icons , look nice :)
[12:40] <mac_v> btw why do the icons all have exec bits?
[12:43] <mac_v> nice touch on the logo fold ;)
[12:59] <kwwii> mac_v: probably a mistake I made if they have the wrong rights
[13:44] <mac_v> kwwii: they are attached to  > Bug #427279 , you could replace it :)
[13:53] <kwwii> mac_v: yeah, but the person building the package should take care of it probably
[13:54] <mac_v> ok , i'm mention it to mvo
[13:54] <kwwii> I'Ve been working on the presence icons for empathy currently
[13:54] <kwwii> any ideas on what to use for "busy" or "invisible"?
[13:55] <kwwii> I tried making a bee for busy but it doesn't fit...I did make an amazingly cool 16x16px bee icon though ;)
[13:56] <mac_v> lol  , busy bee :) nice...
[13:57] <mac_v> kwwii: if you show the icons you've done already , it might ignite something :)
[13:58] <mac_v> kwwii: how about the "men at work" yellow symbol?
[13:59] <knome> hello people
[13:59] <mac_v> we already see that on streets
[13:59] <knome> mac_v, but is it bringing a good or bad sign? i wouldn't want to get any negative signs into ubuntu
[14:00] <knome> usually people just get distracted by those so... what can you expect what they think when they see one on their screen
[14:00] <mac_v> knome: hmm... i dont think its negative... is it?
[14:00] <knome> for me it is an annoyance
[14:00] <mac_v> ;p
[14:01] <mac_v> knome: it is annoying for others who watch , but for the workers? it fits , right?
[14:02] <knome> i don't know
[14:02] <mac_v> anyway , i think the busy bee is a nice idea :)
[14:02] <knome> i just wanted to raise attention to detail
[14:03] <mac_v> we could have a yellow diagonal with a hat... but for me the bee trumps this ;p
[14:03] <mac_v> hard hat*
[14:04] <kwwii> mac_v: hrm, that might work...let me upload them to my server
[14:06] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/latest.png
[14:08] <mac_v> invisible is nice :) , but why red for offline ?
[14:11] <kwwii> the ones on the right side are the current attempts
[14:11] <kwwii> I just included everything to give you an idea of what I have thought of so far
[14:11] <kwwii> these will appear in the top right menu on th panel
[14:17] <mac_v> kwwii: the ghosst doesnt fit the set unless the bee is also included , or...
[14:17] <mac_v> how about a face with a hard hat? instead of the bee?
[14:18] <kwwii> the bee, to me, says "bug" more than business
[14:18] <mac_v> yeah , hence the face with a hard hat ;p
[14:19] <mac_v> kwwii: the ghost without another real object in the list seems the odd one out
[14:19] <mac_v>  but i like the ghost :)
[14:19] <kwwii> yeah, it is hard to mix the simple bubbles with real objects
[14:19] <kwwii> but has become apparent that nobody likes the closed eye...which is good feedback
[14:20]  * kwwii grabs a smoke, bbiab
[14:20] <mac_v> ;p
[14:28] <mac_v> kwwii: why not make them all faces?
[14:28] <mac_v> available > happy face
[14:29] <mac_v> away > face turned to right with arrow
[14:29] <mac_v> busy > face with a hard hat
[14:29] <mac_v> or a newspaper in front partially covering the face
[14:30] <mac_v> invisible > ghost
[14:30] <mac_v> offline > just a dimmed face with plain[no smile]
[14:35] <kwwii> mac_v: well, if you start drawing faces you have to be careful about cultural differences, etc
[14:35] <mac_v> hehe , yellow smiley faces , no culture is affected ;p
[14:36] <Cimi> kwwii, considering the work lapo and jimmac are doing for highres icons, which represent next-gen icon themes, isn't time spent on the current generation (scalable 128x128) time wasted considering the future? It could be that in future gnome releases, like 3.0 and more, highres icons will be used fox many apps
[14:37] <Cimi> just my thought...
[14:37] <mac_v> kwwii: but ... would it look professional on a panel to have smileys?
[14:38] <mac_v> or rather , would it be ideal...
[14:41] <kwwii> Cimi: right, but we are working on this for this release
[14:41] <kwwii> mac_v: yeah, not sure...maybe it would be best...I will try it out and see
[14:41] <Cimi> sure
[14:44] <mac_v>  another idea for busy > smiley partly covered by desk
[15:52] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[22:52] <Cimi> kwwii, since the last murrine revision, it is possible to set the color of the progressbar and scale background
[22:52] <Cimi> maybe I will do the same for the scrollbar
[22:53] <Cimi> I know you asked that feature for darkroom
[23:58] <kwwii> Cimi: yeah, I wish I had time to update darkroom for karmic..maybe a few things are possible
[23:58] <kwwii> it really needs an update
[23:59] <Cimi> it should be rewritten ;)
[23:59] <kwwii> I wish I had a week to sit with you in a room and discuss murrine :p
[23:59] <kwwii> no doubt
[23:59] <Cimi> if someone wants to buy me a flight ticket for reach canonical... :)