[00:00] <aj_444> how do I add a printer to ubuntu?
[00:00] <ctmjr> Waseem: try apt-cache search linux-image-generic_2.6.27-4.6_i386 see if it's there (which i doubt)
[00:00] <gigglefight> doesn't boot
[00:00] <RJARRRPCGP> I'm trying to change from ALSA to OSS 4.
[00:00] <unr3a1> well, I am out.  have a good night
[00:00] <aj_444> night
[00:00] <gigglefight> bye
[00:00] <Casandrax> RJARRRPCGP: You seem incoherent enough. .
[00:00] <erUSUL> unr3a1: night
[00:00] <RJARRRPCGP> I heard good things about OSS4, but a F-up, so far.
[00:00] <m_law> whats the best media centre for ubuntu?
[00:00] <erUSUL> !best
[00:01] <gigglefight> well, back to my install horror story: my monitor that's actually a lcd tv set on vga mode doesn't find the 'signal'
[00:01]  * RJARRRPCGP peed, going to be forced to reformat and reinstall!
[00:01] <assumedalive> RJARRRPCGP: yep you're in the wrong channel, if there's an ossv4 channel ask in there, if not, post in the ossv4 post in the forums. you wont get help for it here because its pretty non-standard
[00:01] <ctmjr> RJARRRPCGP: so go to oss4's website and read the linux how to
[00:01] <Casandrax> m_law: The one you like the brest.
[00:01] <gigglefight> it says something like 'signal not found'
[00:01] <gigglefight> it's on vga mode.
[00:01] <RJARRRPCGP> Wait, I went by this HowTo:
[00:01] <m_law> Casandrax: what are the options?
[00:01] <RJARRRPCGP> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[00:01] <younder> erUSUL: that works. thanks!
[00:02] <erUSUL> younder: no problem
[00:02] <RJARRRPCGP> And it's F-ed up.
[00:02]  * RJARRRPCGP about 
[00:02] <Casandrax> m_law: got synaptic ? ... then search for media...
[00:02]  * RJARRRPCGP about to reformat and reinstall
[00:02] <cornet> RJARRRPCGP: :( what was up with ALSA that made you change ?
[00:02] <Waseem> how can i get my 8.04 to 8.10?
[00:02] <Waseem> easily
[00:02] <assumedalive> RJARRRPCGP: its your own goddamn fault for choosing a non-standard sound system, go and get help from the people who actually know about oss4 rather than spamming in here
[00:02] <RJARRRPCGP> I heard that OSS 4 is better.
[00:02] <m_law> Casandrax: will do
[00:03] <RJARRRPCGP> I'm NOT a spammer!
[00:03] <erUSUL> Waseem: System>administration>update manager
[00:03] <losher> m_law: best? Who knows? I run mythtv on 8.04 LTS. It was difficult to set up. If I hadn't done it 3 or 4 times before, I dunno how long it wouldn't taken...
[00:03] <biovore> RJARRRPCGP: it depends on your hardware..
[00:03] <RJARRRPCGP> !op
[00:03] <erUSUL> Waseem: should offer you the upgradwe
[00:03] <Casandrax> alright m_law
[00:03] <mrwoody> is it normal that many kde application behave very weird
[00:03] <mrwoody> ?
[00:03] <ctmjr> Waseem: sudo update-manager -d in terminal
[00:03] <Waseem> erUSUL, ok but i already applied all of the updates available to me.
[00:03] <Flannel> RJARRRPCGP: How can we help you?
[00:03] <rww> Waseem: the instructions are on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[00:03] <archman> my screen is going black after one minute!!! what's the problem?!?
[00:03] <cornet> RJARRRPCGP: well my first step would be to roll back all the changes and see if you can get sound working with ALSA again
[00:03] <losher> Casandrax: "The one you like the brest.". Freudian typo?
[00:03] <RJARRRPCGP> OK.
[00:03] <aj_444> I hate to ask the same question twice, and this'll be the last time I do it. How do I add a printer to ubuntu?
[00:04] <cornet> RJARRRPCGP: at least then you'v eliminated a hardware problem
[00:04] <rww> Waseem: since 8.04 is LTS, Update Manager won't prompt you without following the instructions at that URL, and update-manager -d is for development releases.
[00:04] <biovore> !printers
[00:04] <bifrost_via_rain> I can't get vlc to terminate with kill.
[00:04] <VCoolio> m_law: try xbmc or moovida (formerly elisa); I like first one better than elisa, but haven't tried moovida
[00:04] <Casandrax> losher: Oh, sorry for that. Although... pretty neat :)
[00:04] <m_law> losher: I have tried elisa and its not the best. mythTv looks quite triky to set up. do u use mythbuntu or mythTV
[00:04] <RJARRRPCGP> That's why I gave the output of lspci
[00:04] <cornet> RJARRRPCGP: to be honest i've had zero issues with ALSA, only problems have been with pulse audio and that is pretty much fine these days
[00:04] <losher> aj_444: I bet google knows...
[00:04] <Waseem> rww, yeah i was just using the webpage, thanks for it, its pretty thorough.
[00:04] <erUSUL> Waseem: if not. Check in system>Preferences>software sources || third tab (upgrades) Dsitribotion upgrades choose offer normal releases
[00:04] <Jackiz> !swe
[00:04] <Jackiz> !ubntu-se
[00:05] <ctmjr> rww: thanks and your right sorry Waseem
[00:05] <erUSUL> !se
[00:05] <brandon> Are any of you running the remix?
[00:05] <Jackiz> oh
[00:05] <bifrost_via_rain> There's something really wrong with vlc.  It won't start, wont die.
[00:05] <bifrost_via_rain> I have to reboot to terminate it.
[00:05] <rww> ctmjr: common mistake, don't sweat it :)
[00:05] <m_law> VCoolio: couldn't get moovidia to see my nework HD (but elisa could?!) how stable is boxee isn't is still Alpha?
[00:05] <Casandrax> !us
[00:05] <aj_444> losher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne google provided me with that.
[00:05] <Jackiz> -no
[00:05] <Casandrax> !en
[00:05] <aj_444> losher: but it doesn't make sense.
[00:06] <RJARRRPCGP> Are others having the same thing with Intel/Realtek HDA?
[00:06] <Casandrax> !to
[00:06] <rww> !msgthebot > Casandrax (Please see the private message from the bot)
[00:06] <Casandrax> !be
[00:06] <losher> m_law: I added mythtv to an existing 8.04 desktop, and as I say, it was *not* straightforward. If you are going to dedicate the machine to mythtv, you might try mythbuntu. Personally, the best install experience I had was knoppmyth, which 'just worked'. That was some time ago, though...
[00:06] <erUSUL> Casandrax: country ISO codes
[00:06] <bifrost_via_rain> has ANYONE had similar problems?
[00:06] <erUSUL> !fishing | Casandrax
[00:07] <Waseem> man its so heartbreaking to have a perfect linux only to upgrade and mess up life as you knew it :(
[00:07] <cornet> RJARRRPCGP: i've got an intel HD Audio controller in my laptop and it works fine with ALSA
[00:07] <RJARRRPCGP> But, I never done this before.
[00:07] <biovore> RJARRRPCGP: that sound device is sorta lame.  If you have a program tring to do OSS with it..  your only going to get one PCM stream at a time..  (No hardware mixing) ..  To get multipule sound streams your application needs to use alsa dmix or pulse.
[00:07] <RJARRRPCGP> Makes me want Karmic Koala more ;)
[00:07] <assumedalive> RJARRRPCGP: alsa works perfect for most stuff man, you dont need to go messing around with oss
[00:07] <Casandrax> erUSUL: seems to work just fine otherwise though, but ok.
[00:07] <VCoolio> m_law: don't know about boxee, but xbmc was nice, didn't use it much; somehow mediacenters don't add anything to file manager for me
[00:07] <losher> Casandrax: actually, I like to browse http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=
[00:07] <heroin> Hey im sharing a bunch of folder. However i want to disable a bunch. But i cant find them in any config files. Not /etc/samba/smb.conf or in shares-admin. Where are they!?
[00:08] <Casandrax> losher: I generally just codealot :)
[00:08] <RJARRRPCGP> Jaunty Jackalope was already an Ubuntu that seemed well planned out.
[00:08] <RJARRRPCGP> I liked the fast booting ;)
[00:08] <mehedi> for internet connection i need to install gnome ppp in ubuntu 9.04. but internet connection is needed to install gnome ppp. what can i do??
[00:08] <m_law> VCoolio: Im looking at running a media PC at some point just playing around with them at the moment before investing in new hardware
[00:08] <RJARRRPCGP> Wonder what Karmic Koala is like?
[00:09] <cornet> mehedi: doh! is it not on the install cd ?
[00:09] <losher> RJARRRPCGP: this isn't a chat room. Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:09] <heroin> mehedi download it to a USB stick somewhere else?
[00:09] <heroin> Hey im sharing a bunch of folder. However i want to disable a bunch. But i cant find them in any config files. Not /etc/samba/smb.conf or in shares-admin. Where are they!?
[00:09]  * RJARRRPCGP formatting HDD, BRB
[00:10] <cornet> heroin: which folders specifically ?
[00:10] <VCoolio> m_law: ok then; can't help more than mentioning the options I did
[00:10] <hutchisw> Hi, can anyone help me with setting up postfix? Currently any email I send from this machine gets bounced, even to users on the same machine.
[00:10] <Manifest> When I try to hibernate, or sleep, my laptop, it pretty much just turns off. It doesn't restore. How can I fix this?
[00:11] <m_law> VCoolio: no problem thanx for your help
[00:11] <heroin> cornet: well im not quite sure but i need a nice list of folder i share.. or atleast know where they are/which config
[00:11] <mehedi> gnome ppp has been given in CD.but complete installlation some additional files have to downloaded through internet!!
[00:12] <VincentBelmont> Can someone help me out? I want to start up my own hosting/ircd services on this Linux box but truth be told Iḿ a newbie with linux can someone point me in the right direction?
[00:12] <mehedi> gnome ppp has been given in CD.but  to complete installlation some additional files have to downloaded through internet!!
[00:12] <heroin> VincentBelmont: ... honestly? you want to host irc daemons and u have no idea how.. dont start w. it its a hassle as a service
[00:12] <losher> hutchisw: postfix is a pain. If you're just trying to get mail off a server to mail hub, use ssmtp instead...
[00:13] <Manifest> When I try to hibernate, or sleep, my laptop, it pretty much just turns off. It doesn't restore. How can I fix this?
[00:13] <VincentBelmont> Not even so much as irc services more so domain/webhosting
[00:13] <Manifest> When I try to hibernate, or sleep, my laptop, it pretty much just turns off. It doesn't restore. How can I fix this?
[00:14] <pyro2927> sshd: if I am not logged in, sshd is started, but I am unable to connect to it unless I am already logged in to gnome on the machine
[00:14] <pyro2927> anyone seen that before?
[00:14] <Azaz3l> hi I have a problem to compile somethin...( AIDE ) i'm newbe :S sorry for the question :S
[00:15] <Azaz3l> can someone check it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/268256/
[00:15] <losher> heroin: man smb.conf. It talks about how to configure shares. See 'usershare prefix allow list' etc...
[00:15] <reaper> hi
[00:15] <reaper> i have a little question
[00:16] <pyro2927> reaper, whats up?
[00:16] <reaper> anyone here has svn
[00:16] <pyro2927> client or server?
[00:16] <younder> erUSUL: ended up with:  find / -xdev -mtime 14 -print | tar cvpzf /media/VERBATIM/incbackup100909.tgz -T -
[00:16] <G-man> Can i get some help here, getting my nvidia, to work properly, i've installed 180 rebooted, but still no proprietary drivers
[00:16] <reaper> well i made a little svn server on my computer and i want to see if it works
[00:16] <erUSUL> younder: ok; nice you let the channel know ;)
[00:16] <reaper> pyro2927: client
[00:16] <yazd> I have a postgresql server running on a network that blocks almost all ports, except 80.  I want to connect to the server on 80 from client machines.  Im having trouble getting this command to redirect traffic on port 80 to port 5432: iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 5432
[00:17] <ctmjr> mehedi: you can download packages and dependencies then transfer them to the computer with no internet
[00:17] <archman> erUSUL, can you help? my screen is going black in 1min for no reason. i'm using xfce on jaunty, where can i look for? i already setup all the power management or so.
[00:17] <heroin> losher: thanks going a different road atm..
[00:17] <reaper> my server is svn://24.200.114.108/robocup
[00:17] <Pici> Azaz3l: Why are you compiling from source?  That package is in the package repositories
[00:17] <heroin> How can i allow samba network traffick in firestarter?
[00:17] <Knobby175> Hi, new guy here, maybe a silly question, does anyone know if a new version of gOS will be coming out soon, or is all efforts going into Cloud?
[00:17] <reaper> can someone tell me if it is working please?
[00:17] <Manifest> When I try to hibernate, or sleep, my laptop, it pretty much just turns off. It doesn't restore. How can I fix this?
[00:17] <erUSUL> archman: no error msgs no nothing it just goes blank ?
[00:18] <archman> erUSUL: yes :( for no reason
[00:18] <G-man> hi guys, im getting close i can feel it but, can i get some help here, getting my nvidia, to work properly, i've installed 180 rebooted, but still no proprietary drivers
[00:18] <archman> erUSUL: today, for the first time
[00:18] <pyro2927> reaper: it's working
[00:18] <archman> erUSUL: and now it does it all the time, when the pc is idle for a few moments
[00:18] <pyro2927> it's asking me for a password
[00:18] <erUSUL> archman: nothing in dmesg ? or in the logs ?
[00:18] <reaper> thanks :)
[00:18] <Bluey> i am trying to help gman with an nvidia problem - we installed the drivers, rebooted, but it says there are no propriety drivers - what should be our next step?
[00:18] <pyro2927> no problem, enjoy the day
[00:19] <Azaz3l> Pici, 'cos i have to compile it :S really i don't know why but the boss said that i have to do it for the performance
[00:19] <Azaz3l> i prefer apt-get install...
[00:19] <archman> erUSUL: [drm:i915_getparam] *ERROR* Unknown parameter 6 ? what's this?
[00:19] <ctmjr> G-man: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf change the driver to nvidia then restart x if it does not work change it back to what it was
[00:20] <MHz128> Are there any mp3 players that can 'dock' or minimize nicely to the tray/taskbar?
[00:20] <Pici> Azaz3l: Well it looks it installed sucessfully in the paste you linked to.
[00:20] <erUSUL> archman: dunno i do not have intel graphics...
[00:20] <erUSUL> !intel | archman
[00:20] <Azaz3l> Pici, how can i check it?
[00:20] <Pici> Azaz3l: It should be in /usr/local/bin/aide
[00:20] <Pici> G-man: Are you sure that your card is supported by those drivers?
[00:21] <mehedi> for internet connection i need to install gnome ppp in ubuntu 9.04. but internet connection is needed to install gnome ppp .though it has listed in the software list,some addition files are needed to be downloaded.and when i try to install a external gnome ppp file it shows that same software is present in software list; so install from the list.  what can i do??!!
[00:22] <summel> why is there no qt 4.4.1 in hardy backports?
[00:22] <G-man> window size is too small for nano
[00:22] <archman> erUSUL: ok, but it started today! i was on jaunty for a few months now.
[00:22] <G-man> it says....
[00:23] <mehedi> for internet connection i need to install gnome ppp in ubuntu 9.04. but internet connection is needed to install gnome ppp .though it has listed in the software list,some addition files are needed to be downloaded.and when i try to install a external gnome ppp file it shows that same software is present in software list; so install from the list.but its not a problem in ubuntu 8.10.  what can i do??!!
[00:23] <erUSUL> archman: maybe is a kernel bug... there were kernel upgrades recently... can you test with an older kernel ?
[00:24] <erUSUL> archman: current version is 2.6.28.15 try with .14 or so. if the problem goes away you have something to blame
[00:24] <G-man> Geforce 9800gt
[00:24] <G-man> what driver do i need for that
[00:24] <archman> erUSUL, i kept the .14, i will test now!
[00:24] <archman> brb
[00:26] <ubuntu_> wut upppl
[00:26] <losher> mehedi: 9.04 is a mess. Can you downgrade back to 8.10 ?
[00:26] <G-man> if i download from the site
[00:26] <summel> ...
[00:26] <G-man> how do i get it to work
[00:27] <Pici> G-man: What site? It looks like if you install the nvidia-glx-180 package it should handle that card.
[00:27] <G-man> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_185.18.36.html
[00:28] <micah> can someone please help me with wolfenstein enemy territory!?!??!
[00:28] <ctmjr_> mehedi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ find the packages you need and download them
[00:28] <micah> I did
[00:28] <archman> erUSUL: ok testing now
[00:28] <mehedi> i am already using 8.10
[00:28] <erUSUL> archman: good luck
[00:29] <micah> how do you play the game it only lets me be a spectator and says no quarter on the front page
[00:29] <Cyb3rSniFF> since distupgrade font in gdm and xserver are broken
[00:29] <Cyb3rSniFF> hints anyone?
[00:29] <archman> erUSUL: got no luck it seems, on .14 :'(
[00:29] <micah> anyone please help with wolfenstein enemy territory game!!!
[00:30] <erUSUL> archman: same behavior ?
[00:30] <archman> exactly
[00:30] <micah> anyone please help with wolfenstein enemy territory game!!!
[00:30] <Pici> !repeat | micah
[00:30] <ctmjr_> G-man how did you install the 180 driver?
[00:31] <G-man> thru terminal
[00:31] <SudoKing> i found what was segfaulting firefox =] http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-2253
[00:31] <micah> pici do you know how to play it instead of just being a spectator?
[00:31] <archman> erUSUL i did an update today
[00:31] <erUSUL> micah: actually join a team ?
[00:31] <Pici> micah: I don't know, I haven't played that in a long time.
[00:31] <archman> erUSUL, libpam got updated, anything suspicious?
[00:32] <micah> erUSUL I did join but it will only let me be a spectator
[00:32] <erUSUL> archman: really dunno...
[00:32] <archman> f**k
[00:32] <Pici> G-man: If you install the drivers manually with the package from the repositories  then you don't need to go into the hardware drivers tool
[00:32] <erUSUL> micah: teams are full ? tried various servers ?
[00:32] <Pici> archman: Please mind your language
[00:32] <archman> Pici, i'd like to...
[00:33] <micah> erUSUL I did but every time I connect to a server it only says spectator and I fly around and it also says "no quarter" at the main menu what is that?
[00:33] <archman> erUSUL, what can change anything that has to do with this "power management" or whatever?...
[00:34] <jennistin> I have a SSH issue if anyone would like to help. My client drops the connection before exchanging keys.
[00:34] <ubuntu_> where am i
[00:34] <erUSUL> micah: dunno been ages since i plyed that game...
[00:34] <fccf> !ubuntu | ubuntu_
[00:34] <losher> jennistin: what client and server os?
[00:34] <micah> okay
[00:34] <jennistin> losher: Server is Ubuntu distro with OpenSSH from main repos
[00:35] <jennistin> losher: Client is Putty on WInXP
[00:35] <jennistin> losher: On client, I've also tried with FileZilla for SFTP and Aptana SFTP
[00:37] <losher> jennistin: dunno if putty has any debugging facilities, but openssh does. On the server, kill sshd and run it manually as sudo /usr/sbin/sshd -d then try and connect. You'll get a (very) detailed log trace. If you can't make sense of it, pastebin it & we can look at it...
[00:37] <dORSY> hi. how do i get my networkmanager back to see my interfaces (eth0 and pppoe)
[00:37] <redes_> Pici, sorry i had a problem.. :S
[00:37] <jennistin> losher: I don't think the issue is with the server, even though I have not debugged sshd yet. When I watch the packets, the client stops responding, and the server continues to retransmit.'
[00:38] <jennistin> losher: Putty only has an event log, nothing detailed.
[00:38] <G-man> wow man
[00:38] <G-man> this is driving me nuts
[00:38] <Guest38601> i tryed to install WampServer2.0i.exe and it wont let me
[00:39] <ctmjr_> G-man: ok try this sudo nvidia-xconfig see what it says
[00:39] <jennistin> losher: Netstat shows the connection as established, and WinXP drops it before the server does. Then the server sends a FIN packet
[00:39] <pvvni> Anyone know if watch can display color as well?
[00:39] <redes_> Pici,  yeah i have it over there, but when i wanna run it ... It says that cannot access config file...
[00:39] <pvvni> Or if there's a patch that allows it
[00:39] <fccf> Guest38601: that's a windows apache mysql php ... you want !lamp
[00:39] <fccf> !lamp
[00:39] <knasto> HELP, I accidentally did something while messing with volume control and now I when I press the volume buttons on my laptop, it will no longer control the master volume. How do I fix this?
[00:39] <redes_> usr/local/etc/aide.conf:No such file ... And yeah i cannot see it inside of it :s
[00:39] <Guest38601> so thats for windows only? awwwww
[00:40] <losher> jennistin: I don't see much in google offhand. This has got to be a common combination. Check the putty options e.g. ssh protocol version etc...
[00:40] <dORSY> hi. how do i get my networkmanager back to see my interfaces (eth0 and pppoe)
[00:41] <jennistin> losher: Yeah, I think I've exhausted Google as well. Putty works fine from other WinXP systems with this server. The client with difficulty is behind my employer's firewall
[00:41] <floryn90> hi evryone
[00:41] <jennistin> losher: The client and server handshake fine and agree on SSH2
[00:42] <archman> erUSUL: tested it in gnome now, it happens there too!
[00:42] <knasto> HELP, how do I fix my volume control?
[00:42] <floryn90> what is the code to eliminate a folder on the terminal
[00:42] <Guest38601> ok how do i install sound?
[00:42] <smogattack> I installed the windows 7 beta and then I restored grub. Now I can boot into Ubuntu, but can't see or boot into windows 7.
[00:42] <xikteny> floryn90: rm -dR /folder
[00:42] <jennistin> floryn90: What do you mean, eliminate?
[00:43] <ctmjr_> !sound > Guest38601
[00:43] <losher> jennistin: obviously something different about this particular putty client then. Firewall shouldn't be an issue, as they obviously make initial contact. It's pretty hard to escape the conclusion that something in this particular client's settings is wrong...
[00:43] <andyzammy> hello everybody, i'm trying to copy a dvd to HD, but instead of the ~7Gb it "completes" with a 39Mb .iso. what's going wrong with the copy?
[00:44] <archman> this ubuntu is just shit...
[00:44] <xikteny> !language | archman
[00:44] <jennistin> losher: The settings are defaults, which work fine from other WinXP clients
[00:44] <losher> archman: Here. Have your money back...
[00:44] <archman> losher, i know i know
[00:44] <knasto> HELP, how to I switch the function of my volume control buttons on my keyboard. I did something in volume control. How do I undo that to set it back to normal?
[00:44] <losher> jennistin: same version of client?
[00:45] <grumete> oh great, now we have foundametalism in linux distros
[00:45] <emma> archman, well ubuntu is for people who are new to linux, and also for people who very experienced with linux. You might be some kind of arch linux user though. lol.
[00:45] <jennistin> losher: Yes
[00:45] <archman> emma, i wouldn't
[00:45] <losher> grumete: you found metal in your distro?
[00:45] <pvvni> archman: arch ftw!
[00:45] <floryn90> hi
[00:45] <pvvni> emma: arch = awesome.
[00:45] <grumete> yes, it's called gold, I think it worths something losher.
[00:45] <jennistin> losher: This client also works for other servers, just not this particular one
[00:45] <floryn90> whow can i control my psp on linux?
[00:45] <smogattack> I installed the windows 7 beta and then I restored grub. Now I can boot into Ubuntu, but can't see or boot into windows 7.
[00:46] <xikteny> knasto: System>Preferences>Sound>Default Mixer Tracks
[00:46] <archman> floryn90, it works for me, by default
[00:46] <archman> which is a miracle
[00:46] <andyzammy> hello everybody, i'm trying to copy a dvd to HD, but instead of the ~7Gb it "completes" with a 39Mb .iso. what's going wrong with the copy?
[00:46] <pvvni> smogattack: what's your /boot/grub/menu.list say
[00:46] <floryn90> for me no
[00:46] <archman> floryn90, it's a normal thing :D
[00:46] <smogattack> pvvni, it doesn't list anything windows 7
[00:47] <pvvni> smogattack: add an entry for it then
[00:47] <jennistin> andyzammy: Do you have dvdlib installed?
[00:47] <smogattack> pvvni, it's just ubuntu and the 'old' windows xp
[00:47] <knasto> xikteny, thank you so much. Ive been spending hours trying to fix this on volume control messing with the diffrent 30 sliders.
[00:47] <smogattack> pvvni, how can I do that?
[00:47] <pvvni> smogattack: Just modify the 'old' windows xp one to point to the windows 7 partition
[00:47] <losher> jennistin: so to recap: the client works with other servers, the server works with other clients. Just not with each other, but they do swap packets initially?
[00:47] <xikteny> knasto: NP, did that work for you?
[00:48] <pvvni> smogattack: pastie what it has right now
[00:48] <floryn90> archman, your psp version?
[00:48] <smogattack> pvvni, okay, hang on
[00:48] <andyzammy> Jennistin: if that's the one that lets you play dvds, then yes i do. have watched several dvds from disk and from iso. what's weired is that one dvd copied fine, and i struggled with two others
[00:48] <knasto> xikteny, yes it works perfectly (i was looking at the volume control applet on my panel instead of sound)
[00:49] <jennistin> losher: Correct, they establish a connection and then the client stops responding and Putty times out
[00:49] <thomc> is fsck the program to use to diagnose a hard drive corruption?
[00:49] <smogattack> pvvni, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268269/
[00:49] <jennistin> andyzammy: What are you using to grab the ISO's?
[00:49] <Lunatic> Im using ubuntu minimal to be as light as possible and I was wondering if there was a messenger like pidgin only lighter?
[00:49] <smogattack> pvvni, I don't know what those generic entries are either
[00:50] <andyzammy> the gnome "right click copy disk to iso" thingy :P
[00:50] <jennistin> Lunatic: It depends on what chat services you want to use, but Gnome's gossip and PSI are good
[00:50] <Lunatic> I'm just going to be using it for the most common ones, MSN, Yahoo, AIM.
[00:51] <pvvni> smogattack: the win7 install is on the same drive the xp one was on right
[00:51] <jennistin> Lunatic: I think Gossip supports all of those, but it may be in beta
[00:51] <smogattack> pvvni, yeah, same drive as XP
[00:51] <Lunatic> whats PSI?
[00:51] <jennistin> Lunatic: Its a jabber app. like Pidgin, Google PSI Jabber
[00:52] <pvvni> smogattack: k, what probably happened, is when you installed win7 it created a new partition (windows 7 adds a partition similar to linux's swap)
[00:52] <pvvni> smogattack: that partition took over the sda1 mount where xp used to be
[00:52] <Lunatic> is there one not tied to GTK+ and QT?
[00:52] <losher> jennistin: Anything you've not told me? What kind of authentication is it? Where in the exchange does the client stop responding? I think you're going to have to run debug on the server to get any further...
[00:52] <jennistin> Lunatic: PSI not GTK or QT
[00:52] <xikteny> !info psi
[00:53] <pvvni> smogattack: try chaning the (hd0,0) to (hd0,1)
[00:53] <th0ger> Hello! My ubuntu test print is ok, but when printing from any application the colors look strange(or missing). It's a canon i550, I'm using the closest driver available, i560. So what can i do?
[00:53] <smogattack> pvvni, I was just going to ask that. lol
[00:53] <Lunatic> oh, your right, I was looking at the wrong thing. awesome
[00:53] <smogattack> pvvni, should i double check with partition editor?
[00:53] <pvvni> smogattack: sure, open a terminal and type parted
[00:53] <pvvni> er
[00:53] <pvvni> sudo parted
[00:54] <jennistin> losher: It is password authentication. I can send you the packet log if you want to see where it stops responding. I think I'm going to have to run debug too since I have no other options.
[00:54] <pvvni> smogattack: use /dev/sda
[00:54] <pvvni> smogattack: p
[00:54] <losher> jennistin: I'd be willing to look at a packet log if want to pastebin it. No promises though...
[00:54] <jennistin> Lunatic: apparently PSI does use QT... nevermind, I use it on Windows
[00:55] <pvvni> smogattack: quit
[00:55] <Lunatic> ah, dang it!
[00:55] <jennistin> losher: k, I'll grab it
[00:55] <pvvni> smogattack:  (those commands, in that order. Copy/paste/pastie the results)
[00:56] <andyzammy> l
[00:56] <smogattack> pvvni, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268277/
[00:56] <jrib> Lunatic: how about bitlbee or finch?
[00:56] <PauLoAndre[ja_vo> oi
[00:56] <Lunatic> will they run yahoo/aim/msn?
[00:56] <PauLoAndre[ja_vo> hi
[00:57] <smogattack> pvvni, it's the  1049kB  21.5GB  21.5GB  primary   ntfs           which is number 2,1. lol
[00:57] <andyzammy> on top of my dvd copy problem i have another. yesterday morning i managed to copy over a couple of folders to my psp (via usb cable), but yesterday evening, i couldn't do it - ubuntu threw an error saying that the psp was mounted as a read-only filesystem
[00:57] <andyzammy> how can i fix this?
[00:58] <Lunatic> hmm, bitlbee seems interesting
[00:58] <jennistin> losher: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d61913234
[00:58] <jrib> Lunatic: they should... check and see
[00:58] <jrib> Lunatic: yeah, it's pretty neat if you are always on irc anyway
[01:00] <Lunatic> I'll try them both anyhow, many thanks!
[01:00] <smogattack> pvvni, so I should change (hd0,1) to /dev/sda1?
[01:01] <pvvni> smogattack: hrmmm
[01:01] <pvvni> smogattack: no dont mess with the /dev/sda1
[01:01] <pvvni> smogattack: that line is commented out
[01:01] <pvvni> smogattack: so it doesnt do anything
[01:02] <pvvni> smogattack: did you upgrade to 7 from xp?
[01:02] <jennistin> andyzammy: I have no idea for the USB jumping to read-only, but what are you using to grab the ISO's?
[01:02] <smogattack> pvvni, maybe I should just try changing (hd0,0) to hd0,1 like you said
[01:02] <smogattack> pvvni, clean install
[01:02] <skapism_> can I do a wireless install with mini.iso?
[01:02] <pvvni> smogattack: weird, it usually creates an extra partition
[01:03] <andyzammy> jennistin: i just right-click the dvd and select copy disk
[01:03] <skapism_> is there any way to load the wireless drivers during installation?
[01:03] <smogattack> pvvni, yeah, I'm stumped looking at the grub
[01:03] <pvvni> smogattack: yea try that, though I now doubt that it will work.
[01:03] <rww> andyzammy: for the DVD copy problem, are you just copying them to the hard disk, or do you eventually want to burn the back to DVD?
[01:03] <losher> jennistin: Oh, I was expecting a lower level trace with SYN/ACK etc. if I read this trace right, the client sends a SYN (presumably) to the server, the server responds with an ACK, and that's the last thing that happens. I'm not even sure the client sees the ACK. Can the server even talk to the client through the firewall?
[01:03] <terry> join #php-es
[01:03] <godmodegrafix> just updated to 9.04, i had this issue with 6.10 also... everytime i complete all the security updates, ubuntu crashes and when i reboot.. it starts up in tty
[01:03] <godmodegrafix> what can i do to install all the security updates and not crash?
[01:04] <andyzammy> rww: i just want to copy to HD. i have no special dvds to copy iso's > 4.7 Gb
[01:04] <jennistin> andyzammy: Have you tried dvd::rip?
[01:04] <Waseem> awesome. Finally got around to fixing my problem, turns out i had 8.10 when ubuntu was working right.
[01:04] <Waseem> so thanks to all those that helped.
[01:05] <losher> andyzammy: newer commercial dvds have all sorts of ridiculous copy prevention hacks. The only sure-fire method of copying is to use windows AnyDVD which doesn't run on wine...
[01:05] <rww> andyzammy: I'd strongly recommend the dvdbackup package/program, then. In combination with libdvdcss (I can link you instructions for getting that if you don't have them) it works perfect for me :)
[01:05] <jennistin> losher: Sorry I only sent you the tail of it. The server does send the server version which the client receives
[01:05] <skapism_> man, linux is so d*mn awesome!
[01:05] <deadleaf> hey is there a way to change system's default encoding?
[01:05] <andyzammy> jennistin: no i haven't. tbh i just wanted to do this using current method. is there no workaround? i guess if not i'll try some other proggies but i thought that since it came "out of the box" it would just work
[01:05] <Waseem> skapism_, I agree. when it works its the best.
[01:06] <losher> jennistin: any chance of a more complete trace?
[01:06] <skapism_> Waseem: for me it has hardly ever not worked
[01:06] <godmodegrafix> just updated to 9.04, i had this issue with 6.10 also... everytime i complete all the security updates, ubuntu crashes and when i reboot.. it starts up in tty
[01:06] <godmodegrafix> what can i do to install all the security updates and not crash?
[01:06] <andyzammy> ah, i see
[01:06] <jennistin> losher: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=d48676980 here's the whole thing
[01:06] <Waseem> skapism_, cant say the same, I have rarely had it without a problem but still once I iron out the kinks.
[01:06] <Waseem> its too good.
[01:06] <meoblast001> hello, someone told me i would be ok if i deleted my vhosts... as far as i know i don't use them (never configured them), but now i get a vhost warning when starting apache... everything still works, but warnings scare me.. should i be concerned?
[01:06] <GuidMorrow> quick question, how do I clear my DNS caches in ubuntu
[01:06] <Nick_Meister_Lap> hi guys i am having an xnest issue, when i try to run it over ssh i get this >  Fatal server error:
[01:06] <Nick_Meister_Lap> Unable to open display "".
[01:06] <jennistin> losher: 192 is the server, 162 is the client
[01:06] <rww> meoblast001: what's the text of the warning?
[01:06] <skapism_> Waseem: I think for the most users it's ok oftb
[01:07] <skapism_> ootb+
[01:07] <Waseem> skapism_, really depends on the hardware.
[01:07] <andyzammy> ok, thanks for the help everyone. would someone be able to help me with my usb readonly filesystem problem?
[01:07] <googeek> Anybody know the command line to start gdm configure?
[01:07] <skapism_> Waseem: true
[01:08] <rww> andyzammy: what's the filesystem on it? ntfs, fat32, ext3...?
[01:08] <meoblast001> rww: one second
[01:08] <godmodegrafix> just updated to 9.04, i had this issue with 6.10 also... everytime i complete all the security updates, ubuntu crashes and when i reboot.. it starts up in tty
[01:08] <godmodegrafix> what can i do to install all the security updates and not crash?
[01:09] <meoblast001> rww: http://codepad.org/8yIfJJL2
[01:09] <Waseem> ok before i mess up anything, how can I set up my 8.10 ubuntu so that it updates stuff but no major updates to the kernal/OS
[01:09] <Waseem> ?
[01:09] <andyzammy> rww: i believe its fat32. its my psp connecting through usb cable. a google showed this problem has happenned before, but i couldn't find a solution
[01:10] <rww> meoblast001: do you have a NameVirtualHost line somewhere in your apache configuration?
[01:11] <andyzammy> it's quite strange, looking in /media, "disk" is still there (and shows size and free space), though i have unplugged psp. now replugging it creates a disk-1
[01:11] <meoblast001> rww: [ "NameVirtualHost" not found ]
[01:11] <Loafers> What sans font does Ubuntu use?
[01:12] <rww> meoblast001: in all of the various files in /etc/apache2/ ? (not just the ones in sites-enabled
[01:12] <rww> Loafers: DejaVu Sans. It's an offshoot of Bitstream Vera Sans.
[01:12] <meoblast001> yes
[01:12] <meoblast001> i have it in ports.conf
[01:12] <meoblast001> can i remove it?
[01:13] <rww> meoblast001: throw a # in front of it to comment it out, and see if that helps.
[01:13] <Loafers> rww, thanks!
[01:13] <meoblast001> all works, thanks
[01:14] <losher> jennistin: ok, I see the 3-way tcp handshake (lines 1-3), then the server should send an proto id string (line 4) then the client should send a proto id string (line 5) then the server should send a key exchange init (line 6) at which point the client goes dumb when it should reply to the server's key exchange init. I can't tell from this trace if the problem is at the tcp layer or above. A tcp problem seems unlikely... What's in the
[01:14] <losher> client logs?
[01:15] <SilAmeth> Ok who is the uber ubuntu geek on here?
[01:15] <rww> andyzammy: hmm, strange. What's the relevant line in mount?
[01:15] <rww> meoblast001: glad I could help
[01:15] <meoblast001> :)
[01:15] <UBuntuNewbie> hi there
[01:15] <UBuntuNewbie> I need help anyone here?
[01:15] <meoblast001> the people i talked to in #httpd don't seem to like the Debian Apache setup
[01:15] <SilAmeth> hello
[01:15] <andyzammy> which one do you want, the phantom "disk" or the one that really shows the psp when it's plugged in?
[01:16] <Tim__> Is it possible to return Ubuntu to a previous configuration?
[01:16] <meoblast001> UBuntuNewbie: largest channel on Freenode i think
[01:16] <UBuntuNewbie> I'm having trouble trying to install my video driver
[01:16] <Tim__> Somehow it has become corrupted and I'd just like to return it to a time when it was working
[01:16] <jennistin> losher: Unfortunately I can't get Putty to give me a detailed log and I don't have privilege to record the packets on the client.
[01:16] <andyzammy> rww: which one do you want, the phantom "disk" or the one that really shows the psp when it's plugged in?
[01:16] <meoblast001> UBuntuNewbie: ATI, Intel, or NVIDIous?
[01:16] <godmodegrafix> just updated to 9.04, i had this issue with 6.10 also... everytime i complete all the security updates, ubuntu crashes and when i reboot.. it starts up in tty
[01:16] <godmodegrafix> what can i do to install all the security updates and not crash?
[01:16] <jennistin> losher: By the way, thank you for your help
[01:16] <SilAmeth> anyone on here know about ppp?
[01:16] <losher> jennistin: sorry I haven't been able to solve it...
[01:16] <UBuntuNewbie> meob: ATI
[01:17] <meoblast001> UBuntuNewbie: which rXXX is it?
[01:17] <rww> andyzammy: may as well give me both :)
[01:17] <meoblast001> UBuntuNewbie: if you don't know, just give me the model
[01:17] <rww> UBuntuNewbie: what version of Ubuntu are you using (9.04/Jaunty, 8.10/Intrepid, etc.)?
[01:17] <UBuntuNewbie> meob : ATI 9000 mobile
[01:17] <Pici> godmodegrafix: What version of Ubuntu were you running before 9.04?
[01:17] <maximenko_> i have a big problem i cant login on lost and found :(
[01:17] <SilAmeth> anyone on here know about ppp?
[01:17] <UBuntuNewbie> meob: ATI Radeon 9000 mobile
[01:17] <andyzammy> rww: they're both the same actually. mount -v gives: /dev/sdd1 on /media/disk-1 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[01:18] <Pici> !anyone | SilAmeth
[01:18] <UBuntuNewbie> meob : is it ok if I talk to you in private?  I am having toruble following all the other chat
[01:18] <godmodegrafix> Pici: it's irrelevant because i wiped out my whole harddrive before installing it
[01:18] <UBuntuNewbie> with all the other chat going on*
[01:18] <losher> Tim__: sorry, that's what a backup is for. If you didn't make one, it's really hard to go back...
[01:18] <meoblast001> UBuntuNewbie: is that a newer or older card?
[01:18] <SilAmeth> Does anyone on her know about ppp?
[01:18] <maximenko_> hm
[01:19] <meoblast001> UBuntuNewbie: and sure
[01:19] <Pici> godmodegrafix: Oh. Well you said you updated to 9.04.  Does Ubuntu crash while you are installing updates or is it on the next reboot that you boot to a tty?
[01:19] <godmodegrafix> oh no sorry, i installed from live CD
[01:19] <godmodegrafix> it crashes while installing
[01:19] <maximenko_> losh how can i login into lost and found?
[01:20] <rww> andyzammy: odd, that looks fine. Is it an internal drive, or a swappable SD card or something?
[01:20] <rww> maximenko_: lost and found generally isn't a user =/
[01:20] <godmodegrafix> Pici: and then when i reboot my laptop, i try boot the linux kernel and it leaves my in tty
[01:20] <maximenko_> rww :(
[01:20] <maximenko_> i cant do nothing?
[01:21] <losher> maximenko_: what exactly are trying to do?
[01:21] <mib_mib> Hi all - I am a newb - i enabled and created a 'key' so that only I can ssh to my server, however, now I want to disable that - how do I disable it so that I can simply type ssh <my IP> <port>
[01:21] <maximenko_> losh too get the files
[01:21] <maximenko_> on that thing
[01:21] <rww> maximenko_: if you're seeing a "lost+found" folder on your home partition, that's a directory created on all ext partitions to store broken files. It's not a user you can log into...
[01:21] <losher> maximenko_: are you saying you lost some files?
[01:21] <maximenko_> yep
[01:22] <GuidMorrow> how do you flush the dns cache on ubuntu
[01:22] <rww> maximenko_: is there another language you're more comfortable speaking? There are country-specific rooms that might be able to help better...
[01:22] <maximenko_> norwegian
[01:22] <rww> !no | maximenko_
[01:22] <losher> maximenko_: what happened, exactly?
[01:22] <Pici> godmodegrafix: Have you noticed that it crashed during a particular package? or is it random?
[01:23] <rww> maximenko_: by all means continue getting help in here, but that room might be able to help too :)
[01:23] <bigdavejoker> I can't get Leo XML editor to run  I keep getting qtGui.py: can not import Qt    I can find how to fix this
[01:23] <GuidMorrow> what does that lost+found folder do?
[01:24] <godmodegrafix> Pici: never took notice, I only let it happen once.... cause from my previous experiences i had from 6.10.. i knew that the only way to fix this issue was to repartition my HD and remove linux altogether...then install again from live cd..
[01:24] <SilAmeth> I am trying to log into the internet through dialup, it dials and when it is authenticating it says looks like a welcome message/ can't run /usr/sbin/pppd, any ideas?
[01:24] <godmodegrafix> and i dont want to try it again, cause its a hassle installing and uninstalling ubuntu
[01:24] <godmodegrafix> well it's not.. but i dont wanna :(
[01:25] <rww> GuidMorrow: if messed up files are recovered during a disk check and the disk recovery can't figure out where to put them, they're put there. It's typically empty.
[01:25] <losher> GuidMorrow: when checking the disk, if the checker finds files that don't seem to belong anywhere, it puts them into lost+found so you have a chance of putting them back in the right place. When that happens, the filename is typically lost, even if the contents are still there...
[01:25] <Swian> looking for a solution for work. They want a small install of linux (I suggested puppylinux) that is configured to open remote desktop on boot and nothing else, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[01:25] <biglinux> alguem br?
[01:26] <rww> !br | biglinux
[01:26] <losher> Swian: I just read a comparison of tiny linuxes here: http://www.abzone.be/Review001_p001. It's a bit old but still ok...
[01:26] <Pici> godmodegrafix: Well, 6.10 was nearly 6 releases ago, we may have a completely different issue here.  Is your graphics card by chance made by intel?
[01:26] <biglinux> I need help
[01:27] <biglinux> for check error in Hd FAT and NTFS in the Debian Linux
[01:27] <buttons840> does anyone know of a UML editor that I can simply draw the diagrams myself?  Something similar to DIA but that allows a print preview?
[01:27] <andyzammy1> rww: oops, pidgin froze up on me, sry
[01:27] <GuidMorrow> losher : problem is, nobody can't even get in that folder!
[01:27] <godmodegrafix> Pici: im not sure, how would i find out?
[01:27] <losher> biglinux: for FAT & NTFS you need to boot windows to check them properly
[01:28] <Swian> thanks but the question wasn't about the distro but more about configuring it to do what I said
[01:28] <losher> GuidMorrow: you have to be root to look in there. Use sudo ls /lost+found
[01:28] <rww> andyzammy1: no problem. The last thing I asked was whether it's an internal drive or an external SD card or something like that?
[01:28] <Pici> godmodegrafix: open a terminal and type: lspci and look for something that looks like a graphics adapter
[01:29] <godmodegrafix> ah yes
[01:29] <godmodegrafix> everything is intel
[01:29] <biglinux> when I'm on Windows, it asks to format the HD, and Linux open normally
[01:29] <andyzammy1> rww: right. basically the psp's acting as a card reader. it takes memory stick duo cards. should i try reformatting the carrd?
[01:29] <GuidMorrow> losher: that only works through terminal, but not through nautilus
[01:29] <Pici> godmodegrafix: Some people today were discussing intel graphics issues with the latest updates, I'm not sure which package it was though.
[01:29] <biglinux> and no have space in the HD for make backup
[01:30] <GuidMorrow> losher : how do I display the folder contents
[01:30] <rww> andyzammy1: you may have done this already, but some memory sticks have a "lock" switch on the back. Is it set appropriately?
[01:30] <godmodegrafix> Pici: actually nvm, my graphics card is RADEON
[01:30] <losher> GuidMorrow: if your system is so screwed up that files are showing up in /lost+found, you probably can't fix it from nautilus, sorry...
[01:31] <rww> GuidMorrow: hit Alt-F2, run "gksudo nautilus", and use that to browse it.
[01:31] <andyzammy1> rww: i did have a look, but there doesn't appear to be a physical lock.
[01:31] <SilAmeth> Does anyone on her know about ppp?
[01:32] <SilAmeth> or rather pppd on jaunty
[01:32] <GuidMorrow> ANYONE HOME?!
[01:32] <losher> Swian: when you say 'remote desktop' do you mean just ssh into a shell, or a full (gnome?) desktop viewed remotely?
[01:32] <rww> GuidMorrow: I just replied to you a minute ago.
[01:32]  * GuidMorrow echo HOME ... HOME ... HOME ...
[01:32] <GuidMorrow> yep, that folder's empty
[01:32] <dewman> sheesh some people are impatient.
[01:32] <buttons840> how come every time i try to figure out how to do something through the terminal i have to sift through about 5 pages of people demonstrating how to do it using gui? :(
[01:33] <Pici> godmodegrafix: hmm... I've really not seen a package install crash Ubuntu in.. well never.
[01:33] <bigdavejoker> hehe  good question
[01:33] <Swian> when I say remote desktop I mean the remote desktop application that can be used to connect to windows terminal servers
[01:33] <rww> GuidMorrow: good, that means the disk checker isn't finding broken lost files when it runs.
[01:33] <Swian> that's the ONLY app they want available
[01:33] <GuidMorrow> rww: define broken?
[01:33] <godmodegrafix> Pici: this is strange... :\
[01:34] <JoshuaP0x> I downloaded the new NVIDIA driver, NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run. how do i install it?
[01:34] <Pici> godmodegrafix: You could try updating from the terminal if you have a network connection there.. otherwise just try again from the gui and maybe it was just coincidence.
[01:34] <cbassett> can anyone help me with drivers for broadcom
[01:34] <losher> buttons840: some people are incapable/unwilling to do anything that doesn't have a GUI. I also notice nowadays that youtube has videos of things which take 20 minutes to watch, which could be written in half a page of text...
[01:35] <wes_> F*CK ALL YOU CAWK SCKERS
[01:35] <wes_> F*CK UBUNTu
[01:35] <wes_> F*CK LINUX
[01:35] <FloodBot1> wes_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:35] <Swian> how intelligent
[01:35] <UBuntuNewbie> Hi I'm wondering has anyone here ever had the "messed up graphics" screen of death after installing updates, and then restarting unbuntu?  It shows up right after the Ubuntu splash screen
[01:35] <eminor> omg
[01:35] <godmodegrafix> Pici: thanks, I'll figure it out eventually... i dont want to run the risk of having to reinstall ubuntu right now though..
[01:35] <andyzammy1> rww: i did have a look, but there doesn't appear to be a physical lock.
[01:36] <GuidMorrow> yet another windows user
[01:36] <rww> andyzammy1: hmm. I'm looking around online and can't find anything about whether there is one or not. Strange, that's usually the problem when that error comes up with those things.
[01:36] <cbassett> I have broadcom 4322 propritary drivers but they really don't get the job done... i mainly need 3rd party for aircrack can anyone help
[01:36] <m3wt> a
[01:36] <GuidMorrow> rww: what makes a file break?
[01:36] <Qvintvs> can you search for installed packages using apt-cache?
[01:37] <biovore> dpkg -l | grep <name>
[01:37] <rww> GuidMorrow: disk corruption caused by hardware failure, power outages, or other fun stuff like that
[01:37] <bucky> UBuntuNewbie, you mean the one with the black screen with lots of text that says something about Xorg.0.log ?
[01:37] <GuidMorrow> ouch
[01:37] <losher> Swian: client remote desktop application only?
[01:37] <Swian> yes
[01:37] <Swian> losher: yes
[01:37] <UBuntuNewbie> bucky : no
[01:37] <andyzammy1> rww: i was going to try mount the psp in a windows VM but it appears i can't use anything usb (don't know why, all my usb devices are grayed out) lol, yet another problem
[01:37] <Qvintvs> biovore: i know about using dpkg to do it, i mean is there a way to do it with apt-cache
[01:37] <ctmjr> JoshuaP0x: ctrl+alt+f1 then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop then run the installer sudo sh ./name of driver.run then reboot
[01:38] <rww> andyzammy1: if you're using Virtuabox from the Ubuntu repositories, that's because the open source version of VirtualBox (the one Ubuntu ships) doesn't have direct USB support. You'd need to use the one from their website.
[01:38] <cbassett>  I have broadcom 4322 propritary drivers but they really don't get the job done... i mainly need 3rd party for aircrack can anyone help
[01:38] <cbassett> help please
[01:39] <UBuntuNewbie> bucky: I mean if you install all the "important' update when you have a fresh copy of 9.04 installed, you restart the pc, and you get that blank screen
[01:39] <GuidMorrow> !help > cbassett
[01:39] <SaTaNucT> i love in kalina rios what me did :(
[01:39] <cognitiaclaeves> Anyone know why I'm seeing this in the shell?: ImportError: No module named CommandNotFound
[01:39] <bucky> UBuntuNewbie, i don't think i've ever seen that one
[01:39] <rww> andyzammy1: ugh, pretty much all Sony says is that some of them do have locks, some of them don't, and in the ones that do, it looks different on different ones. So much for standardization.
[01:39] <cognitiaclaeves> heh:  command-not-found is already the newest version
[01:40] <cognitiaclaeves> ... ok.
[01:40] <GuidMorrow> what do you mean "command-not-found"?  What's that?
[01:40] <rww> Qvintvs: not that I can see, no. I generally use "aptitude search ~i" to show all installed packages.
[01:40] <cognitiaclaeves> Evidently what is called when a command isn't found.
[01:40] <damian> how does this work?
[01:40] <trism> GuidMorrow: command-not-found is a python script ubuntu runs when you type a command into bash that doesn't exist
[01:40] <damian> newby here.
[01:40] <cbassett> where can i get broadcom 4322 3rd party drivers for aircrack the ones im using now are propietary drivers and they dont cut it for aircrack
[01:40] <andyzammy1> rww: i'm going to try to reformat the memory stick and see if that helps any. thanks for your help!
[01:41] <trism> GuidMorrow: it just prints out possible packages from the repos
[01:41] <rww> damian: if you have a problem with or question about Ubuntu, just go ahead and... I guess not.
[01:41] <UBuntuNewbie> anyone here have a problem running Chess in 3d-mode?
[01:41] <andyzammy1> ?
[01:41] <losher> Swian: ok, so they all come with x11 and networking. The most obscure part is the rdesktop application. You can build it if it isn't available, but some of the build environments for the small distros are a pain to work with. Also, if your hardware is non-standard, you need to be sure the distro supports what you have. If I were you, I'd pick 3 or 4 and just download them, burn 'em to CD, and try them out...
[01:41] <rww> andyzammy1: alright. let me know how it goes :)
[01:42] <GuidMorrow> cognitiaclaeves : try reinstalling command-not-found?
[01:42] <andyzammy1> rww: will do!
[01:42] <cognitiaclaeves> I did.  Already the latest version.
[01:42] <GuidMorrow> what's the apt-get command for that
[01:43] <Swian> losher: yeah, I like puppy because its debian based, but can you point me to somewhere to read up on configuration?
[01:43] <GuidMorrow> what's the apt-get command for reinstalling a package
[01:43] <Swian> if not I'll google around
[01:43] <cbassett>  I have broadcom 4322 propritary drivers but they really don't get the job done... i mainly need 3rd party for aircrack where can i find some and how to install?
[01:43] <rww> GuidMorrow: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packagename>
[01:44] <cognitiaclaeves> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/universe-bugs/2009-April/080844.html
[01:45] <dmem> whats up?
[01:45] <mordof> how do i change my default browser? i installed firefox-3.5 but it's still defaulting to 3.0
[01:45] <cyber_666_uk> hey guys is there any reason why pressing F2 when a fiel is highlighted, i cant rename it?
[01:45] <dmem> remove both entirely
[01:45] <GuidMorrow> look around the menus until you see "Shiretoko"
[01:45] <cyber_666_uk> i have t us ethe right click menu
[01:45] <andyzammy1> rww: reformatting the memory stick worked. it must have been some sort of sw glitch on the memory stick side.
[01:45] <dmem> then install firefox latest version
[01:45] <rww> mordof: System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications. under Web Browser, click "Custom" in the dropdown, and change "firefox" to "firefox-3.5"
[01:46] <losher> Swian: nearly all puppy config is done from the GUI if I recall correctly. http://www.puppylinux.com/. But don't rule out crunchbang, and there's also a Ubuntu minimal CD which you can customize. You're actually spoiled for choice when it comes to small distros...
[01:46] <mordof> rww: ty~
[01:46] <rww> andyzammy1: weird. glad to hear you got it figured out, though :)
[01:46] <GuidMorrow> !karmic
[01:46] <linuxguy2009> Anyone else running netbook remix 9.04? Im trying to drag and drop app icons to my favorites and also right clicking and select add to favorites and its not adding them. (I installed the ubuntu-netbook-remix meta package from the repos cause I didnt want to have to reinstall everything again on my Dell Inspiron mini here.
[01:46] <Swian> ok losher, thanks
[01:47] <andyzammy1> rww: yep, very strange. thanks for your time and help :) apreaciate it!
[01:47] <Chascon> hi all
[01:48] <trism> Swian: unless this is a really low resource system, I would just do an ubuntu command line install, and then add what you need. I find puppy a bit of a pain to work with, and they default to running as root all the time.
[01:48] <Waseem_> hi my firefox is really sluggish, in ubuntu. My computer spec should be more than enough to run it well.
[01:48] <merma> firefox sucks on ubuntu
[01:48] <merma> seriously
[01:48] <merma> it's actually the flashplugin
[01:48] <Swian> thanks trism, I'll look into that as well
[01:48] <merma> it's seriously messed up
[01:49] <Waseem_> merma, i havent even installed the flash plugin yet.
[01:49] <Chascon> Hey how do apt utilities handle the fact that dev versions up against official releases? Say amsn that is in the repos but I want amsn PPA.
[01:49] <merma> Waseem_: hah
[01:49] <merma> Waseem_: describe sluggish?
[01:50] <Waseem_> merma, just really slow when i scroll pages.
[01:50] <Chascon> Does "install amsn" simply install the PPA?
[01:50] <dogwind> join #politics
[01:50] <JoshuaP0x> I downloaded NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run and it says I have to run 173.14 linux driver
[01:50] <merma> Waseem_: check your cpu and ram usage
[01:50] <dsdeiz> Chascon: it'll install the latest version it finds i think
[01:50] <Waseem_> merma how would i do that?
[01:50] <merma> Waseem_: go to System Monitor in Administration
[01:50] <dsdeiz> Chascon: ikonia told me yesterday about 'apt-cache policy'
[01:51] <JoshuaP0x> which driver do i need on http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html ?
[01:51] <GuidMorrow> there isn't really a fully-published Flash 64 plugin for Jaunty yet, the plugin they put out is in beta, I think
[01:51] <G-man> well, i decided to just go with xubuntu... and now thee monitor resolution is working properly
[01:51] <G-man> i just need to get the dual monitor display to show
[01:51] <sudansh> hi..anyone has knowledge of wubi
[01:51] <Chascon> thanks
[01:51] <rww> Chascon: if the PPA is set up right, the PPA version will be higher than the Ubuntu repo version (perhaps through the use of version modifiers that use ~ and are complicated, but still...) and a normal package update will get it to install
[01:51] <rww> Chascon: and yeah, apt-cache policy packagename is awesome :)
[01:51] <GuidMorrow> If Karmic is released, how do we upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic when the time comes
[01:51] <sudansh> anyone who knows wubi
[01:51] <diego> hola
[01:52] <merma> GuidMorrow: update manager
[01:52] <dissociative> anyone knows how to reset a vista password from ubuntu livecd?
[01:52] <cognitiaclaeves> woa... trash-cli.  Cool.  :)
[01:52] <Waseem_> merma, did it, out of my 2 cpu's 1 seems to be working quite high although what its doing I dont know. fluctuates from 10% to 60%
[01:52] <GuidMorrow> !es | diego
[01:52] <rww> Guest95791: there'll be a link to a Karmic page on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes with instructions
[01:52] <merma> Waseem_: that's ok
[01:52] <Waseem_> other than that memory usage is at a constant 63%
[01:52] <Guest95791> alguien que hable español que me pueda ayudar a instalar uns tarjeta de video ati radeon 9550 en ubuntu.
[01:52] <SilAmeth> Does anyone on here know about pppd
[01:52] <dsdeiz> !karmic
[01:52] <merma> Waseem_: you have to get worried when it stucks at 100%
[01:53] <sudansh> does anyone knows about wubi installer.
[01:53] <nErVe> sudansh: What about Wubi do you want to know
[01:53] <rww> !anyone
[01:53] <dsdeiz> c00l
[01:53] <GuidMorrow> !wubi > sudansh
[01:53] <sudansh> @nerve i installed ubuntu in windows xp
[01:53] <merma> Waseem_: you can try downloading firefox 3.5
[01:53] <Waseem_> ok, but firefox needs to be working well. browsing becomes offputting when firefox is acting like im using a p1.
[01:53] <JoshuaP0x> is this output good: 3254 frames in 5.0 seconds = 650.699 FPS
[01:53] <JoshuaP0x> 4383 frames in 5.0 seconds = 876.438 FPS
[01:53] <JoshuaP0x> 4458 frames in 5.0 seconds = 889.598 FPS
[01:53] <JoshuaP0x> 3973 frames in 5.0 seconds = 794.519 FPS
[01:53] <JoshuaP0x> 4038 frames in 5.0 seconds = 807.459 FPS
[01:53] <FloodBot1> JoshuaP0x: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <JoshuaP0x> 3335 frames in 5.0 seconds = 666.995 FPS
[01:53] <dsdeiz> !paste
[01:53] <rww> GuidMorrow: (sorry, I failed at tab complete) there'll be a link to a Karmic page on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes with instructions
[01:53] <nErVe> sudansh: Yes and
[01:53] <zhanglearn> how can i use man page?
[01:53] <merma> Waseem_: ff 3.5 is in the repos (synaptic)
[01:53] <sudansh> @nerve and i reinstalled windows xp
[01:53] <mh512> has anyone here upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04 directly?
[01:54] <rww> zhanglearn: open a terminal and type "man programnamehere"
[01:54] <mh512> without going thru a double upgrade?
[01:54] <zhanglearn> when i want to man a system call?
[01:54] <sudansh> now i cant c the start up screen which shows me the options to choose windows xp or ubuntu
[01:54] <sudansh> what do i do nw..
[01:54] <matrixblue> anyone know how to repair an ntfs partition from linux. ntfsfix doesn't work and chkdsk isn't an option
[01:54] <rww> mh512: probably, but it's not supported at all. the only current supported upgrade path is 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04.
[01:54] <Bigshot_> i am using xournal on ubuntu and i am getting some scratches while while writing on it in tablet mode
[01:54] <merma> sudansh: what os does it boot?
[01:54] <sudansh> now it boots windows xp
[01:54] <rww> mh512: When the next LTS comes out (10.04 or 10.10, we don't know yet), you'll be able to upgrade directly to that.
[01:54] <merma> sudansh: you need to reinstall grub
[01:54] <dmem2009> how?
[01:55] <mh512> ﻿rww, I understand its not supported. but.. do u know how to do it?
[01:55] <UBuntuNewbie> Hi, anyone here having a problem getting chess to play in 3d mode?
[01:55] <merma> sudansh: get your ubuntu live cd ready
[01:55] <sudansh> how
[01:55] <ctmjr> JoshuaP0x: what does glxinfo | grep render, say
[01:55] <sudansh> yup i have it
[01:55] <mh512> without the double upgrade process?
[01:55] <merma> sudansh: there are a lot of tutorials on the web on how to do it
[01:55] <dmem2009> edit the /etc/grub.conf file
[01:55] <nErVe> sudansh: try this link___https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:55] <merma> dmem2009: no, winxp destroys grub
[01:55] <dmem2009> Got ya.
[01:56] <rww> zhanglearn: if it's a system call with the same name as a program, you might have to do man 2 systemcallnamehere
[01:56] <sudansh> @nerve i tried this link
[01:56] <rww> zhanglearn: "man man" has more info on general use ;)
[01:56] <sudansh> im nw running ubuntu from live cd
[01:56] <dmem2009> which one did you install first?
[01:56] <UBuntuNewbie> Hi, does anyone know why I get the black screen of death when I boot into ubuntu?
[01:56] <sudansh> n when i run the command fdisk -l nothing happens
[01:56] <sudansh> @dmem2009
[01:56] <merma> sudansh: go as root
[01:57] <merma> sudansh: sudo -u i think
[01:57] <IdleOne> sudansh: use sudo
[01:57] <sudansh> i installed windows xp...then installed ubuntu thru wubi..n then reinstalled windows xp..
[01:57] <zhanglearn> thanks , but i have done what you said.
[01:57] <midnightleutenan> I'm having a hell of a time with VLC.  Can anyone help me even connect to their irc?
[01:57] <GuidMorrow> will windows 7 destroy grub afterwards
[01:57] <sudansh> now i cant open ubuntu
[01:57] <midnightleutenan> They've set it up poorly.
[01:57] <rww> sudansh: did you reformat the Windows XP partition while reinstalling it?
[01:57] <GuidMorrow> I would like to keep ubuntu once I install 7
[01:57] <merma> sudansh: yeah you just need to put a few commands now
[01:57] <merma> sudansh: put sudo fdisk -l
[01:57] <dmem2009> on 1 or 2 drives?
[01:57] <GuidMorrow> btw, how do I make a grub disk
[01:57] <sudansh> @merma.. ya its working with sudo command.
[01:57] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[01:58] <ctmjr> midnightleutenan:  /join #vlc
[01:58] <merma> sudansh: that's to see your partitions
[01:58] <zhanglearn> such as "man 3 printf", but the result show no result
[01:58] <dmem2009> cant install xp on a linux system and still use linux.
[01:58] <UBuntuNewbie> does anyone know how to fix the "black screen of death" when i log into ubuntu?
[01:58] <dmem2009> you erase the MBR
[01:58] <midnightleutenan> ctmjr, They aren't set up on freenode
[01:58] <dmem2009> which is where grub resides
[01:58] <rww> !who | zhanglearn
[01:58] <sudansh> @merma ya i knw this..bt my problem is that i installed ubuntu thru wubi installer..
[01:59] <midnightleutenan> ctmjr, They're at 212.117.163.190, but their site doesn't state a port number
[01:59] <rww> zhanglearn: install the "manpages-dev" package
[01:59] <verv87> how do i install cabal in ubuntu
[01:59] <midnightleutenan> ctmjr, for some reason Xchat seems to try to connect on the loopback channel.
[01:59] <rww> zhanglearn: that has all the manpages for system calls. I forgot it isn't installed by default.
[01:59] <merma> sudansh: how exactly does wubi installs ubuntu? when you install ubuntu through wubi do you select it through grub at startup?
[01:59] <SilAmeth> is there an actual ubuntu support channel?
[02:00] <IdleOne> merma: yes
[02:00] <zhanglearn> ??
[02:00] <sudansh> @merma i dont get the boot screen to choose from the OS which i originally was getting before reinstalling windows xp
[02:00] <IdleOne> SilAmeth: this is the channel
[02:00] <merma> sudansh: yeah
[02:00] <merma> sudansh: do sudo grub
[02:00] <rww> zhanglearn: "sudo apt-get install manpages-dev"
[02:00] <verv87> is there a cabal package in ubuntu? i can only find a dev one
[02:00] <zhanglearn> got it, thanks
[02:00] <SilAmeth> ah.... I see so I guess no one in here knows about pppd?
[02:00] <sudansh>  @merma ya then
[02:00] <IdleOne> sudansh: if you formatted the drive when you re-installed windows. you erased the wubi install
[02:00] <dsdeiz> @where cabal
[02:00] <dsdeiz> lolz
[02:00] <rww> SilAmeth: perhaps if you asked your actual question, rather than repeating "anyone on here know about ppp?" over and over again, you'd get better help.
[02:00] <merma> sudansh: do you know your ubuntu partition number?
[02:01] <Alumin> so, just curious...now that Sun has GPLed Java, how come distros still ship with OpenJDK / IcedTea, etc?
[02:01] <sudansh> @merma no i still hv the wubi installed
[02:01] <merma> sudansh: sda2 or something like that
[02:01] <ctmjr> midnightleutenan: sorry here it is #videolan
[02:01] <verv87> dsdeiz: LOLSSLOSLS
[02:01] <SilAmeth> i did....
[02:01] <sudansh> i hv installed wubi in different drive then the windows xp
[02:01] <dgd> SilAmeth, look at the number of people here... you are one of 100s
[02:01] <IdleOne> SilAmeth: that is a possibility at this time yes have you looked at !pppd?
[02:01] <sudansh> @merma  ya
[02:01] <IdleOne> !pppd
[02:01] <midnightleutenan> ctmjr: THANK YOU
[02:01] <IdleOne> errr
[02:01] <dsdeiz> verv87: i remember compiling it or something
[02:01] <dgd> SilAmeth, be patient,
[02:01] <verv87> wow the only help in this channel is things like how do i make gnome look like windows
[02:01] <verv87> i say cabal and everybody is like what
[02:01] <merma> sudansh: what is it?
[02:01] <dsdeiz> verv87: what do you want from cabal?
[02:01] <UBuntuNewbie> anyone here having problems getting 3d chess to play in 3d mode?
[02:02] <bfox> msg nickserv identify hello
[02:02] <SilAmeth>  I installed a 56k modem it dials but when it authenticates it says can't run /usr/sbin/pppd
[02:02] <bfox> oops
[02:02] <dsdeiz> trying to install the xmonad wm?
[02:02] <IdleOne> bfox: change your password
[02:02] <rww> SilAmeth: oh, there it is, half an hour ago in my scrollback. Your problem is probably that your user isn't in the "dip" group, which is required for access to /usr/sbin/pppd.
[02:02] <sudansh> i hv windows xp installed in sda1 n ubuntu installed thru wubi in sda5
[02:02] <bfox> IdleOne: yep
[02:02] <bfox> sigh
[02:02] <verv87> i want to install a dmenu wrapper
[02:02] <pancho_13_cangri> que ondas
[02:02] <merma> sudansh: ok
[02:02] <SilAmeth> hmmm
[02:02] <ctmjr> bfox what IdleOne say's
[02:02] <verv87> yeganesh
[02:02] <SilAmeth>  that is a thought....thanks
[02:02] <rww> SilAmeth: you'd fix that with "sudo adduser yourusername dip" and logging out and back in
[02:02] <pancho_13_cangri> are you speak spanish?
[02:02] <dsdeiz> verv87: from dmwit?
[02:02] <merma> sudansh: do root (hd0,4)
[02:02] <rww> !es | pancho_13_cangri
[02:03] <n-iCe> hola
[02:03] <SilAmeth> gottcha
[02:03] <merma> sudansh: after putting sudo grub
[02:03] <verv87> dsdeiz: http://dmwit.com/yeganesh/
[02:03] <SilAmeth> rww: I appreciate it
[02:03] <rww> bfox: "hello" is a bad password ;)
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> bfox: good lesson on why you shouldnt do that in a channel, but on the "main" page
[02:03] <dsdeiz> verv87: try #xmonad, i think dmwit is there
[02:03] <aleron6> can anybody heah help me install my video driver heres the link that says what it supports http://intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html
[02:03] <sudansh> @merma what will it do..
[02:03] <rww> SilAmeth: you're welcome. In the future, repeating your actual question about every ten minutes or so tends to work much better, I've found. Glad we figured it out :)
[02:03] <bfox> rww: :)
[02:04] <bfox> it's not been my day so far  :)
[02:04] <dsdeiz> verv87: i'm not quite familiar with yeganesh, sorry. though i've used cabal to install xmobar i think
[02:04] <merma> sudansh: just set your root partition for grub, nothing bad
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> aleron6: well which device do you have
[02:04] <SilAmeth> rww: I hope we found it....lol I will go to that pc and try it out
[02:04] <rww> bfox: incidentally, you can set the "server password" in your IRC client to your nickserv password and it'll automatically identify you.
[02:04] <sudansh> @merma please inform me beforehand if any command formats or deleted any data...
[02:04] <IdleOne> verv87: haskell-cabal is the package name I believe
[02:04] <bfox> rww: I'll do that, thanks
[02:04] <aleron6> an intel 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller
[02:04] <merma> sudansh: dont worry
[02:05] <sudansh> @merma  k done
[02:05] <aleron6> its been hard latly to find the drivers for it cause i need them
[02:05] <merma> sudansh: now put setup (hd0)
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> aleron6: why, can you not run 3D?
[02:05] <sudansh> @merma cannot mount selected partition
[02:05] <aleron6> yea the gamses render blurry
[02:05] <IdleOne> verv87: maybe haskell-devscripts
[02:06] <aleron6> even tried  assault cube and it was blurry on launch
[02:06] <damagu> Hey guys is there an easy way to revert all theme/menu/windowing back to defaults?
[02:06] <merma> sudansh: hmmm
[02:06] <BCS-Satori> Does anyone run SLI in Ubuntu?  How does it fair compared to Windows?
[02:06] <damagu> Also, can someone tell me how to access a /home partition when running from a livecd?
[02:06] <merma> sudansh: then youll have to go the long way
[02:07] <RapeApe> damagu: mount it
[02:07] <sudansh> @merma did u understand my problem fully..?
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> damaex: mount it and then browse it?
[02:07] <damagu> RapeApe: ah
[02:08] <damagu> RapeApe: livecds don't come with a way to backup a partition like /home do they? I mean without mounting and using some cli tools?
[02:08] <Chascon> I get the regular amsn despite adding the PPA repository and adding the key
[02:08] <Chascon> grr
[02:08] <sudansh> does anyone knows about wubi..
[02:09] <damagu> sudansh: that depends on whats you wants to knows.
[02:09] <Fohn> !ask | sudansh
[02:09] <rww> Chascon: copy the output of "apt-cache policy amsn" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and put here a link to the page it creates
[02:09] <Fohn> or rather
[02:09] <Fohn> !anyone | sudansh
[02:10] <coolcourt> hello how would i install phpmyadmin into /home/user/public_html/
[02:10] <RapeApe> damagu: its possible, but depnding ont he livecd you can usually install software temporarily to it, so you could install an imaging app and do it that way
[02:10] <sudansh> i installed ubuntu thru wubi inside windows xp and then reinstalled winxp..now i dont get the option to choose ubuntu in the starting...can anyone help
[02:10] <rww> Fohn: considering that sudansh spent the last ten minutes giving details, those might not be the most relevant factoids ;)
[02:11] <IdleOne> sudansh: when you re-installed windows did you tell it to use the entire drive?
[02:11]  * rww asked this earlier, didn't get a reply
[02:11] <sudansh> @idleone no i have three partitions of my hard drive
[02:12] <sudansh> n winxp is installed in first one
[02:12] <sudansh> n ubuntu in second one
[02:12] <IdleOne> ok you need to fix grub
[02:12] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | sudansh
[02:12] <sudansh> @idleone ya i knw ..bt how..
[02:12] <IdleOne> follow the links and read
[02:12] <wers> it's very difficult to convert a video file that would play on the ipod touch. I tried with a few windows apps but they took a lot of time to finish and failed. any linux app you can suggest? :)
[02:13] <IdleOne> sudansh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub this is how
[02:13] <sudansh> @idleone i have installed ubuntu thru wubi inside windows as an app...
[02:13] <RapeApe> sudansh: you don't have to prepend with @ saying their nick will hilight them
[02:13] <sudansh> so this process doesnt work
[02:14] <sudansh> rapeape thnx
[02:14] <RapeApe> np
[02:14] <IdleOne> sudansh: you can backup your /home and reinstall wubi
[02:14] <Chascon> rww: http://paste.ubuntu.com/268301/
[02:14] <merma> sudansh: or just fix grub
[02:14] <rww> Chascon: did you do "sudo apt-get update" recently?
[02:15] <Chascon> rww: yep
[02:15] <sudansh> IdleOne i knw the alternative of reinstalling...bt isnt there any other method which doesnt require reinstalling wubi
[02:15] <rww> Chascon: what's the PPA you're using?
[02:15] <sudansh> merma how.
[02:15] <IdleOne> sudansh: yes fixing grub
[02:15] <merma> sudansh: what's so hard about the several guides that have been handed to you?
[02:15] <sudansh> idleone merma how do i fix the grub
[02:15] <slayton_> does anybody know if it is possible to sync the evolution calendars on two seperate computers each running ubuntu?
[02:16] <IdleOne> sudansh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub READ THIS DO WHAT IT SAYS AND IT WILL WORK.
[02:16] <rww> merma: they're all for fixing grub if Ubuntu's installed to a separate partition, not to a Wubi partition-as-a-file, I assume.
[02:16] <rww> IdleOne: watch your attitude, please.
[02:16] <rww> !caps
[02:16] <merma> rww: he said he installed ubuntu on a different partition
[02:16] <RapeApe> ubottu: not all of us
[02:16] <IdleOne> rww: sorry
[02:16] <sudansh> merma the prob is that these guides tell me if i have installed ubuntu in ext partitions
[02:17] <sudansh> bt i have installed ubuntu inside windows xp as an app in ntfs system
[02:17] <rww> merma: he said he installed using Wubi. The Wubi files are on a separate partition. They are still Wubi files.
[02:17] <merma> sudansh: ahhh I don't know then, just reinstall ubuntu
[02:17] <sudansh> wubi has made virtual disk ... root.disk home.disk and swap.disk
[02:18] <sudansh> which ubuntu treat as real disk..
[02:18] <merma> it has your home on a different "disk" anyway
[02:18] <Alumin> hey, how is Wubi anyway...is it a decent representation of the Ubuntu experience for someone who's interested in experimenting with an alternative OS?
[02:18] <merma> sudansh: why not install the real thing?
[02:18] <rww> sudansh: Wubi has crappy support in here, really. If I were you, I'd temporarily move your wubi stuff elsewhere, install a new throwaway wubi in the place where it used to be, then copy over all the files from your old wubi install and overwrite the new one.
[02:19] <rww> sudansh: I know it's a pain, but the way Wubi is set up is so weird (it doesn't use GRUB like normal installations, for example) that it's probably the easiest way.
[02:19] <sudansh> merma cz i dont want to create a separate partition js for ubuntu
[02:19] <thiebaude> rww, i heard alot problems with wubi
[02:19] <IdleOne> rww: I offered that solution to him. he did not like it
[02:19] <rww> Alumin: If you're at all comfortable with "real" partitioning, I'd recommend it over Wubi. There are a myriad of potential problems with it.
[02:20] <sudansh> rww actually i was going to reinstall wubi anyway bt thought if there was a way without reinstalling it
[02:20] <G-man> okay, i've finally got hardware drivers to recognize 180
[02:20] <G-man> how do i open xconfiguration now?
[02:20] <merma> sudansh: you are using the disk space anyway, just on a file inside your windows partition, why not make a partition for ubuntu, what's the problem?
[02:20] <G-man> X Server rather, sorry
[02:21] <rww> sudansh: well, you're welcome to continue looking for one, but as I said, not many people really understand what's going on with it, so it'll be tough :(
[02:21] <sudansh> merma coz then i cant use that space inside windows xp
[02:21] <slayton_> is it possible to synchronize the evolution calendar across two computers?
[02:21] <matrixblue> no one knows how to repair an ntfs partition using linux?
[02:21] <merma> actually i have a feeling fixing grub on wubi should be the same as in a standard installation
[02:21] <G-man> Anybody?
[02:22] <verv87> matrixblue: install ntfs-progs
[02:22] <verv87> look at man pag
[02:22] <verv87> e
[02:22] <matrixblue> thanks verv87
[02:22] <verv87> ntfsprogs or ntfs-progs dont remember the exact name
[02:23] <rww> matrixblue: even ntfs-progs isn't too good at it, though. NTFS being a Microsoft filesystem format has certain negative consequences like this.
[02:23] <isabellf> maybe ntfs-utils
[02:23] <rww> merma: no, it wouldn't be. Wubi uses the Windows bootloader, not GRUB.
[02:23] <merma> i hate how windows doesn't recognizes my 2 partitions inside my usb stick
[02:23] <waseem> hi i am on ubuntu 8.10 and have got the proprietary drivers installed for my xpress 200m graphics chipset, however things (firefox) renders really slow, and scrolling is really sluggish. anyone can offer any help or shed some light my way?
[02:23] <UBuntuNewbie> hi
[02:23] <cognitiaclaeves> scrounge-ntfs looks interesting, too.
[02:23] <goddard> WINDOWS SUCKs
[02:23] <matrixblue> rww, understood but Linux is my only hope in this case. cd drive doesn't work to boot the xp cd
[02:24] <UBuntuNewbie> anyone here know how to get chess to play in 3d mode?
[02:24] <merma> rww: ahhh
[02:24] <G-man> Can anybody help me with Nvidia X Server
[02:24] <sudansh> merma ya rww is right
[02:24] <G-man> I can't get it to run
[02:24] <rww> goddard: no need to be negative about other operating systems :(
[02:24] <sudansh> anyway thanx everyone for help...i guess i have to finally copy my imp data n then reinstall ubuntu :(
[02:25] <cognitiaclaeves> UBuntuNewbie: try apt-get install wesnoth .  ;)
[02:25] <lokad> hi
[02:25] <UBuntuNewbie> whats that
[02:25] <thiebaude> UBuntuNewbie, battle of wesnoth
[02:25] <cognitiaclaeves> A turn-by-turn strategy game.
[02:25] <lokad> someone here with grub-debugging-foo?
[02:28] <lokad> I'm running karmic with grub 1.97 beta2 and do not get it to boot.
[02:28] <thiebaude> !karmic
[02:29] <lokad> OK, thx much
[02:29] <thiebaude> lokad, no prolem
[02:29] <merma> karmic will brake?
[02:29] <lokad> quite often :-)
[02:29] <rww> merma: It's still in development right now, and thus we can't guarantee its stability, hence that warning.
[02:30] <G-man> okay, i've got nvidia x server up, and im enabling my secondary monitor, but it says i must press apply , and then save x configuration file.... but when i click save to x configuration file, it tells me Unable to remove old X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[02:30] <rww> merma: when it's released, it will no longer break (hopefully ;)!
[02:30] <merma> ahh
[02:30] <dewman> hello. I would like to know how to check a hard drive? one of my drives is no longer showing up. So I wasnt sure what command I could use
[02:30] <lokad> bye then
[02:30] <merma> i wonder how much different will 9.10 will be, with it's clouding experiments
[02:31] <waseem> there is an open source driver for xpress 200m ati graphics card, can anyone help in installing it over the flgrx drivers I am using?
[02:31] <tnnc> can someone tell me what would cause ubuntu to boot direct into memtest86
[02:31] <verv87> when is 9.10 coming out for real
[02:31] <Tim__> Okay, so my computer no longer wants to recognize my USB Flash Drive after I attempted to format it
[02:31] <cognitiaclaeves> I suppose 'karmic' is an appropriate name then.  :p
[02:31] <rww> verv87: the end of October
[02:31] <G-man> okay, i've got nvidia x server up, and im enabling my secondary monitor, but it says i must press apply , and then save x configuration file.... but when i click save to x configuration file, it tells me Unable to remove old X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[02:31] <kahrg> CHey guys, question... Is there a way in EVOLUTION to set an event in the calendar for a certain day, every day for a span of time (In this case, I want to put in my college classes, so I can look at my sched and see what I have)
[02:31] <GuidMorrow> how do I make a grub rescue disk
[02:31] <fccf> G-man: you have to run nvidia-settings with gksudo ... or you can't write to /etc/X11
[02:31] <Tim__> It is recognized in the lsusb
[02:31] <G-man> how do i do that?
[02:31] <Tim__> But I can't access it with any other means
[02:31] <cognitiaclaeves> kahrg: Are you stuck on evolution?
[02:32] <Tim__> and since it is fucked up I'd like to format it back to NTFS
[02:32] <fccf> G-man: gksudo nvidia-settings
[02:32] <Tim__> and worry about dealing with this piece of shit Ubuntu has formed into later
[02:32] <kahrg> cognitiaclaeves not nec.. but i do like it to be integrated with gnome
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> G-man: in a terminal, gksudo nvidia-settings
[02:32] <cognitiaclaeves> kahrg: .. because tb has a calendar plugin that allows you to interface to google calendar...
[02:32] <thiebaude> !language | Tim__
[02:32] <kahrg> cognitiaclaeves: tb?
[02:32] <Tim__> Oh, sorry.
[02:32] <cognitiaclaeves> thunderbird.
[02:32] <Tim__> I'm just really angry because I left my computer on sleep, then when I returned everything was imsane
[02:32] <kahrg> cognitiaclaeves: thunderbird doesnt use GTK :(
[02:33] <cognitiaclaeves> It's pretty sweet.  I can see all 6 of my google calendars on the same page with any local events...
[02:33] <Tim__> Can anyone help me find my USB drive?
[02:33] <Tim__> lsusb locates it, but fdisk -l won't, and it doesn't show up anywhere else
[02:33] <smogattack> I can't make my windows 7 partition boot on GRUB
[02:33] <G-man> nice
[02:33] <G-man> now how in the world was i supposed to know that :)
[02:33] <G-man> hehehe
[02:33] <tnnc> can someone tell me what would cause ubuntu to boot direct into memtest86 and wont boot the kernel
[02:33] <cognitiaclaeves> oh, well.  Works like mad for being able to coordinate with other people and groups.  GTK or not.
[02:33] <G-man> brb after quick restart!
[02:34] <thiebaude> !grub | smogattack
[02:34] <Tim__> Does anyone know how to have Ubuntu relocate your USB after it became corrupted?
[02:35] <Tim__> lsusb sees it, however nothing else does.
[02:35] <kahrg> cognitiaclaeves: never really used google calendar
[02:35] <Cameron> hi, I have setup two IP aliases (eth0:1, eth0:2) and now the default outgoing IP address is the one for eth0:2 rather than eth0 .. anyone know how to change this back ?
[02:35] <smogattack> thiebaude, yeah, I'm reading the first one, but I don't know whether to choose hd0,0; hd0,1, etc
[02:35] <rww> Tim__: is there any data off it you want, or is reformatting it okay?
[02:35] <kahrg> cognitiaclaeves: suppose i should look into it, but i wanted it to be integrated with gnome (for notifications)
[02:35] <Tim__> I want to reformat it
[02:35] <Tim__> I want it back in NTFS format where I can't do any more damage to it
[02:35] <cognitiaclaeves> oh, is that all?  tb has an extension to handle notifications.
[02:36] <kahrg> cognitiaclaeves: but TB is also an eyesore
[02:36] <Tim__> Ubuntu has become so madly corrupted that I had to try and manually put a LiveCD on it to boot from, however it failed and destroyed it
[02:36] <cognitiaclaeves> lol.  Guess I'm agnostic like that.
[02:36] <rafael_> hey folks
[02:36] <smogattack> thiebaude, how can I check what partition my windows 7 is on? like hd0,1
[02:37] <rww> Tim__: alright. Unplug it if it's plugged in, then plug it back in, wait about ten seconds, and run "dmesg | tail" in a terminal. You should get a bunch of messages prefaced with some numbers and then [sdX] where X is a, b, c, whatever. e.g.: "[11146.937141] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk", X is "c".
[02:37] <anthony> nice
[02:37] <k1LL_O2> hey rafa
[02:37] <kahrg> GTK applications have kind of a smooth look, that dont make my eyes strain like QT or XUL apps do
[02:37] <thiebaude> smogattack, im not sure
[02:37] <anthony> !!!!!!!!!!!!!! finally i got my dual monitor to work
[02:37] <kahrg> and use my GTK theme
[02:37] <Guest26536> but not in Ubuntu but xubuntu 8.10
[02:37] <k1LL_O2> somebody is using the karmic alpha5 now?
[02:37] <puff> Somebody gave me an old dell bluetooth keyboard, one of these:  http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/acc/P109356/en/setup.htm
[02:37] <rww> k1LL_O2: Karmic discussion in #ubuntu+1, not here, thanks.
[02:37] <smogattack>  how can I check what partition my windows 7 is on?
[02:38] <Tim__> rww: Ok, it's /dev/sdb1
[02:38] <k1LL_O2> oh, tanks!
[02:38] <Guest26536> is there any disadvantages to using xubuntu
[02:38] <Tim__> Same as it was when I could read it :p
[02:38] <Guest26536> ?
[02:38] <Tim__> At least I think so
[02:38] <rww> Tim__: you think it's the same, or you think it's sdb? 'cause the next command will wipe it out, so you should probably be sure it's sdb ;)
[02:38] <Tim__> It's definitely sdb
[02:39] <Tim__> I don't really care what it does to my comp anyways, it somehow corrupted itself while it was on sleep mode... when I turned it back on everything was completely different and messed up. >:(
[02:39] <thiebaude> !xubuntu | Guest26536
[02:39] <Tim__> But I'm 99.99999% sure it's /dev/sdb1
[02:40] <rww> Tim__: alright. next do "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=10MB" (people who are not Tim__: DO NOT DO THIS) and let it run for a few minutes (you won't get any output), then Ctrl-C it to quit it. That'll overwrite the start of the partition and completely remove any partitioning (broken or otherwise) on the drive.
[02:40] <thiebaude> Guest26536, i dont use it
[02:40] <Guest26536> what is the difference
[02:40] <Guest26536> just the GUI
[02:40] <Tim__> rw: I'm assuming I'm supposed to replace /dev/sdb with /dev/sdb1, correct?
[02:40] <tnnc> can someone tell me what would cause ubuntu to boot direct into memtest86 and wont boot the kernel
[02:40] <Tim__> And I don't replace /dev/zero?
[02:41] <Tim__> *rww
[02:41] <fuzzybunny> hey everyone what is the best way to tag lots of photos?
[02:41] <rww> Tim__: no, /dev/sdb is the name of the whole disk, which is what contains the broken partitioning. Assuming there's nothing on the disk you want, you'd want to do sdb.
[02:42] <Tim__> rww: It seems to be responding
[02:42] <Tim__> My USB light is blinking now
[02:42] <caguamon> tnnc: you have grub installed?
[02:42] <rww> Tim__: okay. Like I said, let it run for a few minutes, then do Ctrl-C to quit it. It might take a few seconds to return you to a prompt after that. After that, I'll walk you through partitioning it properly with gparted. Ping me when you quit it.
[02:42] <smogattack> what does Grub Loading Stage 2 mean?
[02:43] <Tim__> Can do.
[02:43] <rww> smogattack: it means it's loading the parts of GRUB that are stored on your boot partition (as opposed to in the Master Boot Record).
[02:44] <Tim__> rww: About how long should I wait?
[02:44] <rww> Tim__: this should be enough
[02:44] <Tim__> Okay
[02:45] <rww> Tim__: okay. If you don't already have gparted installed, install it (for example, "sudo apt-get install gparted" from the command-line)
[02:45] <Tim__> rww: It's installed
[02:45] <thomc> is it normal for an fsck on a large partition (500GB) to be completed in a very short space of time (less than a minute)?
[02:45] <smogattack> Well, it's not booting my windows 7. How can I find what hd it's on?
[02:45] <rww> thomc: is it using ext4?
[02:46] <thomc> rww: no, this is a vfat partition.
[02:46] <Justnulling2> hi, system monitor shows a process with no process name/command line that respawns with a new pid every 5 seconds or so, how can i find more about this process?
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> thomc: is the drive predominantly empty?
[02:46] <caguamon> smog: does it boot any other OS?
[02:46] <rww> Tim__: alright. Run it from System -> Administration -> Partition Editor. It'll probably take a minute to scan /dev/sdb; when it's done, select it from the dropdown in the top right
[02:46] <thomc> IndyGunFreak: no, its about 2/3 full.
[02:46] <thiebaude> smogattack, grub doesn't boot windows 7
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> thomc: well, to me.. that woudl seem a bit odd
[02:47] <smogattack> thiebaude, what.....
[02:47] <Coder4Lyfe> Hi, I'm a C++ programmer moving from Windows to Ubuntu and I'm wondering if there are any good IDEs for C++ development. I'm used to Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0's C++ implementation
[02:47] <smogattack> thiebaude, any way to boot it? or should I just lose hope?
[02:47] <Tim__> Coder4Lyfe: Try Eclipse, or Netbeans
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> smogattack: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036547
[02:47] <dsdeiz> Coder4Lyfe: there's also codeblocks
[02:47] <thiebaude> smogattack, i dont know anything about windows 7
[02:48] <Coder4Lyfe> Are those any similar to Visual Studio?
[02:48] <Tim__> Coder4Lyfe: Somewhat
[02:48] <Coder4Lyfe> I thought NetBeans was for Java development
[02:48] <thomc> IndyGunFreak: basically at some point I think I've had a data corruption (some video files on the disk now seem to be scrambled) and I'm trying to track down the cause. Nothing wrong with the drive according to badblocks or smartctl but fsck doesn't seem to be doing its job.
[02:49] <Tim__> rww: I got an error, something about "Volume 240M cannot be mounted, access denied" or something similar
[02:49] <Cameron> hi, I have setup two IP aliases (eth0:1, eth0:2) and now the default outgoing IP address is the one for eth0:2 rather than eth0 .. anyone know how to change this back ?
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> thomc: hmm, no clue
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[02:49] <Tim__> Coder4Lyfe: It is for anything
[02:49] <Tim__> Coder4Lyfe: It has C++/C plugins, and they are very easy to install
[02:49] <rww> Tim__: hrm. close gparted, pull the USB stick out, put it back in, and try again. GNOME might have tried to mount it at some point.
[02:49] <Tim__> rww: Okay, it's working
[02:50] <Coder4Lyfe> Tim__: Which do you think is closest to Visual Studio? I'd like to get started as fast as possible
[02:50] <rww> Tim__: alright. are you at a screen that looks something like http://imagebin.org/63259 ?
[02:50] <Tim__> Codr4Lyfe: I think Netbeans would be better suited for your needes... it's very easy to get the C++ plugins installed.
[02:50] <Tim__> Coder4Lyfe*
[02:51] <rigodeni> guys how do i make linux automatically mount my 2nd HDD upon a reboot. In GParted its at "/dev/sdb" and is mounted to the directory "/media/disk"
[02:51] <Tim__> Coder4Lyfe: Eclipse is a little more complex, at least from my brief experience with it.
[02:51] <Tim__> rww: Yes, it is exactly like that
[02:51] <Coder4Lyfe> Ok thanks, I'll try NetBeans.
[02:51] <rww> rigodeni: You'd need to add it to /etc/fstab
[02:51] <rww> !fstab | rigodeni
[02:52] <rww> Tim__: awesome. Make sure the "unallocated" partition is selected, then click "New" on the toolbar. You'll get a WARNING: screen, click the "Create" button.
[02:52] <diazepam> hey all just a quick one -- can anyone recommend an off site storage service?  I want to be able to run bacula and save data offsite
[02:52] <Tim__> rww: Okay, done
[02:52] <Relar> I have a newbie question.  I am installing 9.04 on an HP nx6325 laptop, hoping for native wireless support for  the broadcom 57xx wireless card, am I going to have to use ndis wrapper to get it to work?
[02:53] <rww> Tim__: Alright. do you want the whole disk to be one NTFS partition?
[02:53] <Tim__> rww: I want it to be in a partition that I can install a disc image to, to reinstall Ubuntu
[02:53] <causasui> Relar: you can find out by booting the liveCD and testing it out
[02:53] <Tim__> rww: Which I believe would be either FAT16, or FAT32
[02:53] <rigodeni> rww: k thx, reading
[02:53] <rww> Tim__: okay. So the whole thing should be FAT32? Or did you need something more complicated?
[02:54] <rww> (and yes, usb-creator wants FAT32)
[02:54] <Tim__> rww: Sure, just FAT32
[02:54] <Tim__> rww: I was wondering why usb-creator wasn't complying >.>
[02:54] <Relar> thanks, good idea.
[02:54] <tnnc> what would cause memtest86 only be in boot choice
[02:54] <rww> Tim__: awesome. Click that "unallocated" partition again, click New again, and you should get a different screen this time. Change the "File system:" dropdown to "fat32" and click "Add"
[02:54] <mdgrech> blah blah
[02:55] <rww> Tim__: yeah, it's really picky about partition layouts. Screws up for me a lot.
[02:56] <rww> Tim__: once you've done that, your screen should look like http://imagebin.org/63260
[02:56] <Tim__> rww: Okay, done
[02:56] <mdgrech> how can I hacketh adobe cs4 on linux mahine
[02:57] <rww> Tim__: alright, click the Apply button (Green checkmark) on the toolbar, then click "Apply" in the window that pops up
[02:57] <Tim__> rww: Already did
[02:57] <Tim__> :)
[02:57] <rww> Tim__: hehe. Okay, once that's done, close out gparted and usb-creator should work :)
[02:57] <Tim__> rww: Thank you sooooooo much.  I believe you may have helped me retain my sanity
[02:58] <Mqueue> lol
[02:58] <rww> Tim__: You're welcome, glad I could help. Apologies that the process takes so long!
[02:58] <Tim__> rww: No apologies needed, it's my fault for allowing my comp to get a mind of it's own and morph overnight :x
[02:58] <i00nsu> hi guys, any ftp-server app with interface ?
[02:59] <Mqueue> Tim__> no worries Tim we all go thru this one day or the other
[02:59] <Mqueue> hang in there brother
[02:59] <tnnc> what would cause memtest86 only be in boot choice
[02:59] <Tim__> G-R-E-A-T
[02:59] <rww> !ftpd | i00nsu: see the "Graphical frontends" section.
[02:59] <Tim__> Now usb-creator just crashed
[02:59] <Tim__> Which is the same exact thing it was doing for me earlier
[02:59]  * rww facepalm
[03:00]  * Tim__ :facepalm:
[03:00] <rww> Tim__: run it from the terminal (type usb-creator), it should give you a whole bunch of output
[03:00] <Tim__> Ok
[03:00] <Guest8212387> hi
[03:00] <Mqueue> only if this disk partitioning thing would a bit easier...we all would sipping beers
[03:00] <Tim__> rww: "usb-creator: command not found"
[03:01] <rww> Tim__: I'm about to go get dinner, but if you copy that output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link it here, someone will hopefully be able to help (or I will when I get back)
[03:01] <PMantis> Hi guys. Is there a quick guide for accessing an excrypted disk from a live cd?
[03:01] <Guest8212387> I've downloded ubuntu, unzipped it and wrote a cd but it doesn't read it when the computer boots up
[03:01] <rww> wut
[03:01] <Guest8212387> did i do anything wrong?
[03:01] <rww> Tim__: how do you usually get to USB creator? What's the menu item?
[03:01] <Guest8212387> It should run the "wubi" as that's the only exe file in there
[03:01] <Mqueue> PMantis> define encyption ? what type
[03:01] <Tim__> rww: It's simply USB creator... but there are two of them
[03:01] <matrixblue> Guest8212387, you been to burn the ISO directly to CD
[03:01] <Guest8212387> ah
[03:01] <rww> Tim__: in System -> Administration?
[03:02] <rww> Guest8212387: which operating system are you using to burn the ISO? Windows?
[03:02] <Tim__> rww: Yes
[03:02] <Guest8212387> vista
[03:02] <PMantis> Mqueue: I use an alternate install, and created an encrypted volume group. ALL but /boot is encrypted. I need to access it from a Live CD.
[03:02] <Tim__> rww: The first one allows me to press the "other" button and select another ISO, but it crashes when I click "Create..."
[03:02] <rww> Tim__: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:02] <Tim__> rww: 9.10... but shhh
[03:02] <delner> hey guys, is GIZMODO.COM loading really slow for you guys too or is it just me? thanks
[03:02] <matrixblue> Guest8212387, http://downloads.sourceforge.net/infrarecorder/ir050.exe?download
[03:02] <PMantis> Mqueue: I'm not sure what the default encryption is...
[03:03] <matrixblue> Guest8212387, use that to burn the ISO to disk
[03:03] <rww> Guest8212387: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Windows for instructions
[03:03] <rww> Guest8212387: infrarecorder would be my recommendation too
[03:03] <Guest8212387> hm
[03:03] <Guest8212387> i used nero
[03:03] <Tim__> rww: I just need a way now to make a startup disc manually
[03:03] <Mqueue> PMantis> are you trying to reconfigure grub
[03:03] <Tim__> I already downloaded the initrd.gz and vmlinuz for 9.04 earlier
[03:04] <rww> Tim__: weird. Try unetbootin maybe, or ask in #ubuntu+1, or try to find usb-creator with "whereis usb-creator"
[03:04] <PMantis> Mqueue: No, my had is failing, and I'm having trouble booting from it. I need to access the data, that's all.
[03:04]  * rww disappears to dinner
[03:04] <PMantis> Mqueue: s/had/hdd/
[03:04] <spO> Deluge torrent daemon sometimes crashes/stops  , i checked the logs but it doesn't report any clear error. I would like for something simiar to inittab's respawn using ubuntu's upstart/event.d or whatever ...
[03:04] <Tim__> rww: I'm going to try and install the disc manually
[03:04] <Mqueue> PMantis>> which data r u trying to access linux or windows ?
[03:05] <Aca-Tu-Nick> :/
[03:05] <PMantis> Mqueue: EWWWWWWWWWWw, I *HATE* windoze. This is #ubuntu isn't it? :) I'm using Ubuntu 9.04, with all but /boot encrypted.
[03:05] <Aca-Tu-Nick> hola? Hello? Hi! Hole? :P
[03:06] <MRIguy> Guest8212387: I would avoid using Nero.
[03:06] <Mqueue> PMantis>> heheee..no offense just askin..not sure about that bro
[03:06] <mom_> if a normal user locks a x-windows session, is there a way for a su to unlock it?
[03:06] <neekers> hi, i'm trying to install the sun wireless toolkit 2.5.2 onto ubuntu 9.04, it's a .sh file and it wehn i try i get /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/jar: No such file or directory
[03:06] <mom_> x-window sessions
[03:07] <mom_> i mean you could change the user´s password i guess
[03:08] <rigodeni> rww: u still there?
[03:08] <neekers> is there a proper way to install the sun wireless toolkit onto ubuntu? I read a forum that said use synaptic package manager, but i couldn't find it in there
[03:08] <PMantis> Mqueue: I think I have it!  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7445254&postcount=6
[03:08] <test34> PMantis: I don't really understand why encrypting the HD is good if when it's running it has to be unencrypted ?
[03:09] <Mqueue> PMantis>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto8
[03:09] <FlamingFlamingo> hey guys, i started up ubuntu and it said that it's running in 'Low-graphics mode' and that i need to reconfigure my display. but everytime i revert to my default display settings and restart, it just does the same thing
[03:09] <Mqueue> okay cool
[03:10] <PMantis> test34: If you shutdown and power off the laptop, nobody can access any data on the hard drive, even if they remove it. This relies on a SECURE password.
[03:10] <test34> PMantis: 14+ characters password
[03:10] <rigodeni> ok i would like to add "/dev/sdb1 /media/disk ext3 auto 0 2" to fstab but when i put that in terminal i get "command not found"
[03:11] <test34> (random, that even you can't remember)
[03:11] <PMantis> test34: Yup, that's approx what I do, Upper/lower case and symbols.
[03:11] <PMantis> lol
[03:11] <MRIguy> rigodeni: use sudo gedit /etc/fstab to do the edit
[03:11] <billybigrigger> rigodeni, you need to open up the file /etc/fstab
[03:11] <billybigrigger> rigodeni, ie nano /etc/fstab
[03:12] <smogattack> I don't get what this means-- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268320/
[03:12] <test34> if I want to remember my passwords I use 8 random  Upper/lower case and symbols, otherwise I use a password manager
[03:12] <Tim__> How do I set a boot flag to a USB stick?
[03:12] <test34> tim: fdisk
[03:13] <Tim__> test34: How?
[03:13] <janderie> test
[03:13] <neekers> ahh, jar was in /usr/bin
[03:13] <Tim__> test34: I typed "fdisk /dev/sdb1" but it says "Unable to open /dev/sdb"
[03:13] <Tim__> *"/dev/sdb1"
[03:13] <rigodeni> MRIguy: k, now just to make sure, to make it automatically mount the drive i do "auto" for options part right?
[03:14] <Tim__> Nevermind
[03:14] <Tim__> I set it using Gparted
[03:14] <test34> tim__, sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[03:14] <PMantis> test34: I took the time to memorize this one, since it protects access to my HD, which contains other passwords.
[03:15] <test34> PMantis: well, you also need to change it at least once a month
[03:15] <abhi_> hi
[03:15] <rww> !gksudo | MRIguy, rigodeni
[03:15] <PMantis> test34: Why?
[03:15] <rww> rigodeni: I am now :p
[03:16] <Tim__> WTF
[03:16] <test34> PMantis: if someone gets access to your encrypted password, they might crack it ???
[03:16] <Tim__> Why isn't my computer recognizing the USB drive as a valid FAT file system?!?
[03:17] <Tim__> "Failed to mount 209M Volume"
[03:17] <rww> Tim__: did you remove it from the computer and plug it back in since the last time you did weird stuff to it?
[03:17] <Tim__> rww: Yes
[03:17] <test34> tim__, is it NTFS?
[03:17] <Tim__> test34: No, rww walked me through formatting it to a FAT32 just a minute ago
[03:18] <test34> tim__, or even better, ext2
[03:18] <zruty> When running live CD, how to bypass the language choice ?
[03:18] <PMantis> test34: If someone can walk off with my laptop, it doesn't matter if the password is new or old. This is their first stab at it, and they get to keep it as long as they want to try to crack it to see my data. Once they have it in their possession, I can't change the password.
[03:18] <G-man> Question for u gamers, out there, how do i go about getting wine tricks, i dont see it in synaptics
[03:18] <PMantis> test34: With that in mind, I pick one really strong password, and keep it for good.
[03:18] <danbhfive> G-man: have you looked at the !appdb ?
[03:18] <merma> G-man: it's just a script, it's easy to find on google
[03:18] <test34> PMantis: they could possibly get it via then internet?
 i think u have to do it via apt-get
[03:19] <hossam> hello! ive just installed my asus xonar hdav1.3 slim are there any xonar drivers available for this card?
[03:19] <Mqueue> G-man>>>  wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
[03:19] <MRIguy> ubottu: Appreciate the tip, but the /etc/fstab file is best edited via CLI editing.
[03:20] <PMantis> test34: There's no way they can access a raw block device on my laptop when it's powered off. If it's powered on, the drive is already decrypted, and there's absolutely no need for the to guess the encryption password, since luks already has is mounted.
[03:20] <G-man> okay thanks
[03:20] <Distro^Junkie> trying to get the latest amarok 2.2 in Ubuntu 9.04
[03:20] <Mqueue> G-man>>>  http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[03:20] <Mqueue> np
[03:20] <Distro^Junkie> its asking for a gpg key
[03:20] <Tim__> "Failed to mount '2G Removable Volume'. The enclosing drive for the volume is locked."
[03:21]  * merma hates amarok
[03:21] <Tim__> WTF, then I suddenly can open it... :/
[03:21] <Tim__> My computer is doing some very odd things
[03:22] <Out_Cold> so can someone recommend a video card 512 or better that is highly supported with hdmi or component video
[03:22] <test34> PMantis: makes sense... my computer is always ON, so no sense in encrypting the HD I guess (unless it gets stolen)
[03:23] <Out_Cold> test34, also if it's encrypted and you have problems it's fairly difficult to get it all set back up...
[03:23] <test34> I do have an encrypted "partition" on a file on my USB key using truecrypt..
[03:23] <PMantis> test34: Right. I sometimes encrypt my backup servers, since they contain data from multiple systems. If that's stolen, ALL is compromised. But, an encrypted drive does *nothing* to stop attacks while the system is fully booted.
[03:23] <kljgi> 123
[03:24] <PMantis> test34: So, I always do a shutdown (or hibernate) before I travel, just is case I loose it. I never want to tell my client that I lost a device that holds their data!
[03:24] <rww> !test | kljgi
[03:24] <bill_> hi all
[03:24] <merma> anybody knows if it's possible to hide the left side bar in banshee?
[03:24] <rww> aww, jussiO1 made it not funny :(
[03:24] <bill_> anyone ever get camfrog to work on ubuntu?
[03:24] <Out_Cold> gpus anyone? I need a a good one for a big screen... my geforce 8500 drivers are garbage for tv out..
[03:25] <G-man> I'm actually trying to install Ultima Online from CD, i have wine, installed, .net and razor, but when i click regluar install it just dissapears
[03:25] <Tim__> "Failed to mount '209M Volume'.  The enclosing drive for the volume is locked."
[03:25] <Tim__> I didn't lock crap!!!!!!! >.<
[03:26] <Arc_Orion> Apparently you did.
[03:26] <extor> Is there anything available on bestbuy.com that isn't a total and complete ripoff? I have some vouchers I need to redeem...
[03:26] <rww> Tim__: how are you trying to mount it? In GNOME, or with the "mount" command?
[03:26] <rww> !ot | extor
[03:26] <roel> help
[03:26] <Tim__> rww: I'm using Xfce at current since GNOME disappeared overnight... literally
[03:26] <G-man> Anybody that has experience, with running video games thru wine, please PM me
[03:26] <test34> Out_Cold: why don't you just get a separate TV out adapter if that's the only thing that doesn't work right?
[03:26] <Korlis> hey all, i got a problem
[03:26] <Tim__> rww: I'm just going into GParted and it gives me that error
[03:27] <Korlis> i got broken deps that i can't update
[03:27] <Korlis> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.15-2ubuntu1~pidgin4.9.04_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstliveadder.so', which is also in package gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight
[03:27]  * extor points at rww: S.N.I.T.C.H!
[03:27] <Tim__> I can still remove and add files, but I can't use syslinux on it, it says "this doesn't look like a valid FAT filesystem."
[03:28] <tnnc> can someone tell me why when i boot my machine now it boots right to memtest86 and not booting the kernel thanks
[03:28] <Out_Cold> well... i am having some issues with other video intensive situations also. It seem that the driver series just aren't all that great.
[03:28] <Korlis> tnnc, have you looked in your menu.lst to see which is the default boot?
[03:29] <G-man> Anybody that has experience, with running video games thru wine, please PM me
[03:29] <Tim__> I haaaaaaaaate this computer
[03:29] <tnnc> korlis when it was working up till tonight not sure how i can get to menu.lst as it boots right to memtest86
[03:29] <Korlis> ok, anyone got any ideas how to upgrade gstreamer so i can install stuff again?
[03:29] <Out_Cold> G-man, what graphics card you have?
[03:29] <G-man> 9800gt
[03:29] <Out_Cold> and what game?
[03:30] <G-man> geforce
[03:30] <Korlis> tnnc, press esc while booting to be able to choose your kernel
[03:30] <goddard> it really sucks running things through wine
[03:30] <MRIguy> !smart
[03:30] <G-man> im trying to install Ultima Online from CD
[03:30] <goddard> your better off just setting up an xp partition man
[03:30] <G-man> its a 2d game
[03:30] <goddard> I hate supporting wine
[03:30] <danbhfive> G-man: it gets a good rating on appdb
[03:30] <tnnc> korlis ok will try tought i try that and just seen memtest86 in there
[03:31] <gwildor> or vmware or somet..
[03:31] <test34> it's a really old game
[03:31] <goddard> its like supporting people to only support windows
[03:31] <goddard> game developers should port every game for linux
[03:31] <tnnc> korlis  are the kernels and memtest86 listed on the same line
[03:31] <Mqueue> Tim__>> what happened
[03:31] <Korlis> tnnc, if you don't see you rkernel in there just boot up with a live cd and edit the menu.lst manually
[03:31] <goddard> if they dont we shouldn't buy there games
[03:31] <EF_Codd> goddard yeah, that massive market would make it worth it
[03:31] <Tim__> Mqueue: I'm getting an error with my flash drive
[03:31] <G-man> so how would i go about installing it
[03:31] <Korlis> agreed goddard
[03:31] <dmem2009> ls
[03:31] <MRIguy> rww: just having fun with the bot
[03:32] <Mqueue> Tim__>> what r u trying to do ??
[03:32] <Korlis> but till then wine is a great tool, and crossover games rocks
[03:32] <EF_Codd> goddard just stop playing games altogether
[03:32] <Tim__> Mqueue: It's telling me that the "enclosed volume is locked", when I didn't lock anything.  I can still add and remove files, but I can't do anything with GParted
[03:32] <goddard> haha
[03:32] <tnnc> korlis ok will try live cd what do i need to add there never have done this
[03:32] <goddard> I only play games that are ported to Linux
[03:32] <rww> MRIguy: hmm?
[03:32] <goddard> like Neverwinter Nights
[03:32] <EF_Codd> goddard I don't play any. Ever. At all.
[03:32] <Korlis> that depends on your kernel version tnnc
[03:32] <danbhfive> goddard: can you take this to offtopic?
[03:32] <goddard> or xbox 360
[03:32] <Mqueue> Tim__>> u get that message in gparted ?
[03:32] <MRIguy> rww: I normally hang out on #ubuntu-us-ga
[03:33] <test34> EF_Codd: games aren't only a waste of time....
[03:33] <Tim__> Mqueue: Yes
[03:33] <goddard> danbhfive how is this off topic?
[03:33] <tnnc> korlis ok i am not sure what it is
[03:33] <Korlis> ok now, can nayone help me?
[03:33] <webbb82> i was thinking about installin kde 4.3 what version is stable but still new
[03:33] <webbb82> is 4.3.1 a good choice
[03:33] <danbhfive> goddard: its not a support question
[03:33] <goddard> Wine has configuration pages on tons of games
[03:33] <danbhfive> !ot | goddard
[03:34] <goddard> its best to go there
[03:34] <test34> webbb82: look at KDE's website or #kde or #kubuntu
[03:34] <webbb82> i am in those room  just no one is talking in them
[03:34] <G-man> when i double click setup.exe ont he actual install cd... it just blanks out
[03:34] <G-man> nothing happens
[03:34] <Mqueue> Tim__>> is it a USB drive or SD card drive ?
[03:34] <test34> webbb82: website then
[03:34] <webbb82> 200 people and not one word lol
[03:34] <Tim__> Mqueue: USB drive
[03:34] <goddard> i am offering support with a bit of side information or am i supposed to be a robot? cmon man I can talk aswell
[03:35] <goddard> dont dehuminize me
[03:35] <test34> webbb82: ubuntu doesn't use KDE
[03:35] <webbb82> i know
[03:35] <EF_Codd> !ot | goddard
[03:35] <webbb82> kubuntu uses kde
[03:35] <danbhfive> G-man: you probably need to run it as wine cdrom/installer.exe
[03:35] <G-man> how would i go about doing that
[03:35] <goddard> !ot | EF_Codd
[03:35] <Mqueue> Tim__>> k i was just googling it i'm not too sure about that one
[03:35] <test34> webbb82: kubuntu isn't ubuntu
[03:36] <danbhfive> G-man: do you know how to use a terminal?
[03:36] <Mqueue> Tim__>> did u read this ?      http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/free/2009/05/14/%23ubuntu-za.html
[03:36] <test34> !ot | webbb82
[03:36] <G-man> yes
[03:36] <goddard> !ot | danbhfive
[03:36] <Mqueue> no luck ?
[03:36] <G-man> its open right now
[03:36] <danbhfive> goddard: please stop
[03:36] <test34> anybody on-topic ?
[03:36] <goddard> if you will then i will
[03:36] <goddard> its only fair
[03:36] <goddard> thanks
[03:37] <Korlis> lalalalalalala
[03:37] <goddard> Korlis have you look on wine by chance
[03:37] <Korlis> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-plugins-good_0.10.15-2ubuntu1~pidgin4.9.04_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstliveadder.so', which is also in package gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight
[03:37] <Korlis> what baout wine?
[03:37] <Mqueue> Tim__>> u're just using it for Linux right ?
[03:37] <danbhfive> G-man: well, on the teminal: cd /media/cdrom
[03:37] <goddard> on there website
[03:37] <Korlis> for what?
[03:37] <G-man> no such file or directory
[03:37] <goddard> i was trying to install Perfect World and Baldurs Gate and i found out how to do it throug them
[03:38] <danbhfive> G-man: where is the cdrom mounted?
[03:38] <Korlis> i got perfect world working perfectly with crossover
[03:38] <goddard> nice good for you
[03:38] <goddard> fun game
[03:38] <G-man> no idea
[03:38] <EF_Codd> goddard these are not support questions/answers. Please take your off topic conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[03:38] <G-man> lol
[03:38] <Mqueue> Tim__>> u're just using it for Linux right ?
[03:38] <goddard> EF_Codd they are support questions
[03:38] <G-man> its right under file system
[03:38] <G-man> if that helps any
[03:38] <Tim__> Mqueue: Yes, at least at the moment...
[03:39] <Korlis> so anyone know how i can solve my problem, or will i have to just back up and reinstall?
[03:39] <goddard> EF_Codd whats with you?
[03:39] <danbhfive> G-man: when you open it, what is the location?
[03:39] <rww> EF_Codd: considering that goddard seems disinclined to listen to you, it might be best to stop telling him that, since it isn't going to make him change his mind :(
[03:39] <G-man> okay i opened the terminal
[03:39] <G-man> from the cd rom drive itself
[03:39] <EF_Codd> rww yes. I had to decide if he was willfully being off topic, or if he just wasnt' too bright
[03:39] <EF_Codd> I've decided the latter
[03:40] <EF_Codd> oh. I wasted a zinger
[03:40] <zruty> When I rename a folder on a USB stick, why doesn't it DO it? What can I do to make sure when I take the stick out the changes are carried out?
[03:41] <rww> zruty: right-click the USB stick's icon on your desktop and click Unmount.
[03:41] <UBuntuNewbie> Hi there
[03:41] <G-man> anthony@anthony-desktop:/media/cdrom0$
[03:42] <UBuntuNewbie> This may be  a stupid question but.... I'm currenlty running Ubuntu, is it possible for me to upgrade to Kubuntu so I can try out the KDE desktop?
[03:42] <PMantis> UBuntuNewbie: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:42] <zruty> rww: But sometimes it works. Strange.
[03:42] <rww> 6!kde | UBuntuNewbie
[03:42] <rww> !kde | UBuntuNewbie
[03:42] <Babygirl> Holy Shit Theres Actual people on here? :O
[03:42] <zruty> rww: I mean without unmounting
[03:43] <Out_Cold> UBuntuNewbie, search the synaptics for kde
[03:43] <PMantis> UBuntuNewbie: ubuntu vs kubuntu ... there's really no difference except for what packages are installed.
[03:43] <Wildbat> hihi
[03:43] <Babygirl> HELLO?
[03:43] <Korlis> and ubuntu is pretty bad at KDE
[03:43] <cms-aff1la> Hi!
[03:43] <Wildbat> any suggestion for FTP client ?
[03:43] <UBuntuNewbie> wow thanks guys
[03:43] <Korlis> for KDE i prefer Fedora or Suse
[03:43] <KB1JWQ> !ohmy | Babygirl
[03:43] <rww> zruty: yeah. Data isn't written to the flash drive right away, it's cached and then written when the disk is "synced". This is done every so often, but if it hasn't been done since the rename, the rename won't "stick".
[03:44] <Korlis> wow, ubotto, that was a little late
[03:44] <G-man> danbhfive: anthony@anthony-desktop:/media/cdrom0$
[03:44] <zruty> rww: Understood... thanks!
[03:44] <danbhfive> G-man: what is the name of the .exe?
[03:44] <G-man> setup.exe
[03:44] <Babygirl> im confused
[03:44] <Korlis> what up babygirl
[03:44] <Babygirl> do people actually talk on this thing? :S
[03:45] <Korlis> of course we do
[03:45] <danbhfive> G-man: so try: cd /media/cdrom0 && wine setup.exe
[03:45] <rww> Babygirl: Yes. There are more than a thousand people in here right now, although most of them are idle.
[03:45] <Korlis> mostly people come here for help
[03:45] <MRIguy> Everyone have a nice evening! Adios!
[03:45] <Babygirl> ohhh okay haha
[03:45] <G-man> okay... when i do that
[03:46] <G-man> the window pops up to install... but when i click regluar install, it just closes out and nothing happens
[03:46] <rww> Wildbat: I generally just use Places -> Connect to Server... in GNOME. It has an FTP option.
[03:46] <evon> hello is there a program that lets me monitor who logs onto my wireless network?
[03:46] <Babygirl> this ubuntu thing is werid i cant figure anything out
[03:47] <PMantis> Babygirl: IRC chat has been around since 1988
[03:47] <evon> hello is there a program that lets me monitor who logs onto my wireless network?
[03:48] <Babygirl> haha wow i feel so dumb
[03:48] <rww> !repeat | evon
[03:49] <G-man> danbhfive:  did you catch that?
[03:49] <Korlis> evon, im looking it up
[03:50] <danbhfive> G-man: ok, im looking now.  Hmm, do you get any errors on the terminal?
[03:50] <G-man> glx bad drawable
[03:50] <G-man> and locking assertion failure
[03:51] <danbhfive> G-man: have you tried installing the latest wine?
[03:51] <Out_Cold> Babygirl, this chat is for ubuntu support, but you should first google your problem and check out the online forums and help pages that come with ubuntu
[03:51] <djbuggsy> Hello, I could use some help configuring X to work with an older video card.
[03:51] <adub_> what is the apache source package
[03:52] <Babygirl> okay
[03:52] <djbuggsy> Have tried reading docs and posting in the Absolute Beginners web forum.
[03:52] <Out_Cold> apache2
[03:52] <Korlis> evon: http://etherape.sourceforge.net/
[03:52] <zruty> Does syslinux parse every syslinux.cfg file or something?
[03:52] <G-man> i went to synaptics and installed the wine at the top of the list
[03:52] <UBuntuNewbie> hi, I typed in apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, and it asked me if I'm root....anyone know what I'm supposed to do next?
[03:52] <djbuggsy> I'm trying to get an older ATI Rage Pro card to run in 1024x768
[03:52] <rww> adub_: source as in source code? you'd do "apt-get source apache2", it'll download to your current directory
[03:52] <djbuggsy> So far my attempts at editing xorg.conf have hosed my computer several times.
[03:52] <G-man> do i need wine dev?
[03:52] <Out_Cold> UBuntuNewbie, do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <rww> UBuntuNewbie: replace "apt-get" with "sudo apt-get"
[03:53] <Sonnyx4> hello, I've installed Ubuntu but I had windows XP before, how could I see the partitions I had?
[03:53] <adub_> k rww
[03:53] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Not if you overwrote them.
 i know what u mean i gave up with that card too
[03:53] <danbhfive> G-man: try this site, add the repo so you can get the beta version of wine: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[03:53] <UBuntuNewbie> this is what I got Out_cold : E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:53] <UBuntuNewbie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:53] <meoblast001> anyone know the command line options to create a .tar.bz2?
[03:54] <djbuggsy> I'm covering my ears and humming lougly Mqueue :-)
[03:54] <KB1JWQ> meoblast001: xjvf
[03:54] <djbuggsy> loudly
[03:54] <LucidGuy> Ok is it just me or is Jaunty the buggiest version of Ubuntu? ..  or maybe it all went wrong because I upgraded from intrepid.
[03:54] <Out_Cold> UBuntuNewbie, you can only use apt-get OR synaptics, not both
[03:54] <G-man> what do you mean by add the repo
[03:54] <Mqueue> UbuntuNewbie>> u may have synaptics open
[03:54] <meoblast001> KB1JWQ: so it's tar -xjvf directory/ dir.tar.bz2?
[03:54] <UBuntuNewbie> ooooh
[03:54] <UBuntuNewbie> thanks guys
[03:54] <UBuntuNewbie> I'm such a donkey
[03:54] <danbhfive> G-man: are you looking at the site?
[03:54] <KB1JWQ> meoblast001: No, it's not.
[03:54] <KB1JWQ> Necrogami: man tar
[03:54] <G-man> yes
[03:55] <KB1JWQ> Er, meoblast001 rather:  man tar
[03:55] <G-man> hey by the way i have xubuntu
[03:55] <meoblast001> ok
[03:55] <G-man> does that matter?
[03:55] <danbhfive> G-man: Adding the WineHQ APT Repository:
[03:55] <musician> Hi, everybody!
[03:55] <djbuggsy> Should I keep posting my question, I don't know the etiquette on this channel and don't want to be rude.
[03:55] <rww> meoblast001: tar -jcf name_of_file_to_create files to put in it
[03:55] <Guest40971> hello!
[03:55] <Mqueue> go ahead
[03:55] <danbhfive> G-man: maybe, do you have your graphics driver installed?
[03:56] <G-man> yes
[03:56] <G-man> my graphics driver is installed
[03:56] <rww> djbuggsy: once every ten minutes or so is fine
[03:56] <danbhfive> G-man: well, I would try installing the wine
[03:56] <Korlis> iguess i'll just reinstall
[03:56] <djbuggsy> Thanks RWW.
[03:56] <UBuntuNewbie> wow
[03:56] <Out_Cold> djbuggsy, have you checked that the card is supported with ubuntu?
[03:56] <Sonnyx4> KB1JWQ: I think they are still in there... I chossed "4 GB installation" but I ahve a 128 GB disk.. I can't see the older partitions
[03:56] <G-man> how do i install off the net
[03:56] <G-man> like deb files
[03:56] <Sonnyx4> is there any application i can use to see them in ubuntu?
[03:56] <djbuggsy> Out_Cold, I've gotten conflicting info.
[03:56] <UBuntuNewbie> can someone tell me why its so much faster downloading from ubuntu than it is from Windows Xp?   I notice this when it comes to transfering files too
[03:57] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: What does fdisk say?
[03:57] <djbuggsy> And I don't want to do anything advanced with it.
[03:57] <danbhfive> G-man: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[03:57] <G-man> or bz2
[03:57] <Out_Cold> check the ubuntu page...
[03:57] <G-man> i mean
[03:57] <djbuggsy> I just want to make 1024x768 resolution available.
[03:57] <smogattack> Anyone know how to get windows 7 to boot using GRUB?
[03:57] <zapconquest>  hello I have a ram question -- I have one dimm of 1gb ddr2 800 memory installed. I want to buy another one to get the dual channel bonus. Do I have to buy one with the same cas latency and timing?
[03:57] <djbuggsy> What's weird is that resolution is available in Puppy.
 does your PC crash when you activate visual effects ??
[03:57] <KB1JWQ> zapconquest: Matched memory.
[03:57] <rww> zapconquest: ask in ##hardware
[03:57] <zapconquest> ?
[03:57] <Sonnyx4> KB1JWQ: I can't even boot in windowx XP, I've lost the selection boot screen, it only boots Ubuntu... but I'm sure I haven't formatted anything at all, my old OS is still in there.
[03:57] <zapconquest> kk
[03:58] <djbuggsy> Mqueue, how do I activate visual effects in Ubuntu 8.04?
[03:58] <Sonnyx4> Ubuntu says that I have only one drive of 4 GB
[03:58] <gwildor> Sonnyx4, did you edit /boot/grub/menu.list ?
[03:58] <danbhfive> zapconquest: yes, quite likely
[03:58] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Not what I asked.
[03:58] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: I repeat, what does fdisk say?
[03:58] <Mqueue> right click desktop and properties
[03:58] <Out_Cold> Sonnyx4, check for the part on boot up if it asks to see grub menu..
[03:58] <Sonnyx4> gwildor: I am a total newbie in Ubuntu, should I do that through command prompt?
[03:58] <Mqueue> sorry change desktop background
[03:58] <Korlis> UBuntuNewbie: ext is faster than NTFS in general, far as tranferring files from external or downloading i can only assume you had outdated drivers in windows, as it shouldn't be any difference
[03:58] <russ5811> I just bought the Netgear Digital Entertainer Live. Anyone know how much VuNow charges? It says there's a fee and I can't find it on their website, in forums, or anywhere. Can anyone help?
 mine does that not right away but after like 5  mins or so it does crash
[03:59] <G-man> okay
[03:59] <Mqueue> i gave up with it and just left it alone and truned it off
[03:59] <G-man> i've got the latest version of wine
[03:59] <KB1JWQ> !ot | russ5811
[03:59] <djbuggsy> "Desktop Effects could not be enabled"
[03:59] <UBuntuNewbie> Korlis : well i downloaded a 17 mb file in like 3 seconds on ubuntu, it usually takes 3 times as much on xp... I don't know hwy
[04:00] <russ5811> well i figured a group of tech savvy people may be able to help. sorry to bother you.
[04:00] <Sonnyx4> omg I'm so noob in ubuntu hehe
[04:00] <russ5811> thanks
[04:00] <UBuntuNewbie> Sonnyx4:  I feel your pain lol
[04:00] <Out_Cold> djbuggsy, check in settings>preferences>appearance
[04:00] <Korlis> as i said newbie, probably outdated drivers
[04:00] <Out_Cold> last tab
[04:00] <Sonnyx4> lol
 by default it is usually but i turned it off cuz of that crashing situation
[04:00] <Korlis> windows doesn't update it's drivers for you
[04:00] <russ5811> since i can't ask that question here. any suggestions where to go?
[04:01] <djbuggsy> Out_Cold, the resolutions only go up to 832x624
[04:01] <russ5811> or is that asking too much?
 ATI has lack of support for linux
[04:01] <KB1JWQ> !ot | russ5811
[04:01] <KB1JWQ> russ5811: The factoid told you where to go.
[04:01] <danbhfive> G-man: hopefully, that works.  Else, I don't know
[04:01] <ink> what keeps overwriting /etc/motd?
[04:01] <schism30> djbuggsy: What video card do you have?
[04:01] <djbuggsy> Mqueue, here's myu question.
[04:01] <djbuggsy> Why will the same computer run at 1024x768 in Puppy Linux?
[04:01] <russ5811> have fun helping each other out.
[04:02] <rww> ink: update-motd. "man update-motd" may be of interest :)
[04:02] <Sonnyx4> alright, there's a text editor in Ubuntu... you are basically telling me that I can open the boot configuration file and edit this so that I could boot windows again???
[04:02] <ink> rww: gracias
[04:02] <Sonnyx4> what kind of parameters should I add???
[04:02] <Lunatic> So, say I found a module in lsmod and I want to disable it in blacklist.conf do I just type in the name of the module in lsmod and type in blacklist before it?
[04:02] <UBuntuNewbie> Korlis:   DO you have a suggestion as to which file system I should install ubuntu in?  Also, for pre-installation setup, do you think 2 partition is enough?  ( 1 for ubuntu root, and 1 for swap (2 Gb))
[04:02] <djbuggsy> I don't think the card's not capable of running the resolution, I just want to know how to add an additional resolution to Administration/Preferences
[04:02] <ink> # man update-motd
[04:02] <ink> No manual entry for update-motd
[04:02] <ink> :-(
 i haven't been able to figure this out for a long time now it's a valid question
[04:02] <djbuggsy> If the system crashes, oh well!  :-D
[04:03] <Korlis> UBuntuNewbie: EXT4 is the best imo, and yes, 2 partitions is enough
[04:03] <shane2peru> djbuggsy: what graphics card do you have?
[04:03] <smogattack> Anyone know how to get windows 7 to boot using GRUB?
[04:03] <djbuggsy> ATI Rage Pro IIC
[04:03] <Lunatic> is ext4 out of beta yet?
[04:03] <Mqueue> ATI Rage pro
[04:03] <KB1JWQ> smogattack: Only about 5000 articles on the subject on google.
[04:03] <Korlis> Lunatic, i think so
[04:03] <shane2peru> djbuggsy: eek, ATI
[04:03] <UBuntuNewbie> thank you very much
[04:03] <djbuggsy> Gee, thanks Shane.
[04:03] <Korlis> ive had no problems with it
[04:03] <djbuggsy> lol
[04:03] <shane2peru> djbuggsy: have you installed the proprietary drivers?
[04:04] <Lunatic> huh, didn't know that. awesome
[04:04] <djbuggsy> None available for that old card...
[04:04] <smogattack> KB1JWQ, no there isnt
[04:04] <Korlis> on my 80 gig laptop fsck takes like 30 seconds with ext4
[04:04] <djbuggsy> At least not from the "Hardware" thingie.
[04:04] <djbuggsy> Can I get drivers via apt or synaptic?
[04:04] <shane2peru> djbuggsy: ohh, old too, I'm afriad that I can't be of much help.
[04:04] <KB1JWQ> smogattack: My error.  There are just shy of two million.
[04:05] <KB1JWQ> http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+7+grub&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a <-- smogattack
[04:05] <shane2peru> djbuggsy: I do know this, some distro's handle ATI better than others.
[04:05] <djbuggsy> Let me try a different tack.
 if u have 9.04 don't try it ..u will end up in crashes
[04:05] <Chascon> hey guys
[04:05] <djbuggsy> Mqueue, I know.
[04:05] <Lunatic> ay I found a module in lsmod and I want to disable it in blacklist.conf do I just type in the name of the module in lsmod and type in blacklist before it?
[04:05] <Korlis> djbugsy, buy a nvidia card
[04:05] <djbuggsy> :'(
[04:05] <smogattack> KB1JWQ, that's just adding. it doesn't actually make it boot
[04:05] <Chascon> where is vlc? I don't see it with "aptitude search vlc"?
[04:05] <afallenhope> hey is there a reason as to why wHeN I load the LiveCD my wireless doesn't work??
[04:05] <shane2peru> djbuggsy: perhaps you could find a card somewhere, ebay or something
[04:05] <djbuggsy> Korlis, I'm trying to get this to work so I can give away some old P3 server boxes running this config.
 the drivers they wrote for ATI with 9.04 are newer when i download from ATI website that messed me up
[04:06] <djbuggsy> OK
[04:06] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, because your wireless card driver isn't automatically instlled..
[04:06] <Korlis> ah, have you tried installing superos on it djbuggsy?
[04:06] <Chascon> there isn't smplayer but there is a smplayer-themes package? That doesn't make sense.
[04:06] <djbuggsy> System/Preferences
[04:06] <Sonnyx4> Alright people. I'll make my question easier: I installed Ubuntu over Windows but Windows is still in there because I created a new partition from my unpartitionated 128 GB Disk. Now I can't choose to boot windows when it starts, not even when I press ESC to see the "Operative Systems List"... and I can't even see my hard disks in Ubuntu (maybe because it doesn't support NTFS) ??
[04:06] <djbuggsy> Screen Resolution
[04:06] <schism30> Korlis: Agreed.. Nvidia works much better with Linux than ATI
[04:06] <djbuggsy> How do I force Ubuntu to add 1024x768
[04:06] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Once more, what does fdisk say?
[04:06] <barqs> How can I reset by ubuntu repository List?
[04:06] <afallenhope> Out_Cold it used to be supported.. how would I go about having the wireless work?
[04:06] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, you can install it and load from there but you would have to find your driver for your card first
[04:07] <Korlis> SuperOs is a modified ubuntu that has all the codecs and drivers you need installed by default
[04:07] <Sonnyx4> KB1JW: I can't start Fdisk, is there other application that can show me through Ubuntu what partitions I have??
[04:07] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: I don't know or care to know what the GUI flavor of the day is.  If you can't start fdisk from a terminal you have larger problems.
[04:07] <Sonnyx4> I downloaded one program, it says my disk is 128 GB and that there's only ONE partition of 4 GB (where Ubuntu is installed right now)
[04:07] <G-man> Is it possible to run UO with wine on xubuntu
[04:07] <G-man> ?
[04:08] <Sonnyx4> the only fdisk I know is the DOS version of microsoft... I don't have windows boot disks right now :S
[04:08] <Korlis> djbuggsy: http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Super_OS
[04:08] <Out_Cold> G-man, test it and let us know..
[04:08] <G-man> well it just hangs when i try to install
[04:08] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: ...  Humor me a second.  Type fdisk at the terminal prompt, kthx?
[04:08] <G-man> it gets to the installation screen
[04:08] <Sonnyx4> hehe let me see
[04:08] <G-man> but when i click regular install nothing happens...
[04:08] <OneMillionDollar> why can't i get my saa7143x tv card working
[04:09] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: in a terminal you can type fdisk -l  to list your partitions
[04:09] <sub[t]rnl> Chascon: you need to enable the multiverse repo's in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:09] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: all partitions should show up.
[04:09] <Chascon> thanks
[04:09] <KB1JWQ> !pm Sonnyx4
[04:09] <KB1JWQ> !pm | Sonnyx4
[04:09] <afallenhope> Out_Cold I know the driver I need it's the b43 driver. as for finding it.. I don't have the internet on that machine.. so how would I port it?
[04:09] <djbuggsy> Korlis, the install ISO is almost a gig!
[04:09] <Sonnyx4> can I post here what fdisk says??
[04:09] <G-man> f the cd install
[04:09] <Sonnyx4> it's kind of long
[04:09] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: That said, df output to a pastebin
[04:09] <G-man> downloading client now
[04:09] <Sonnyx4> well.. 4 lines
[04:09] <KB1JWQ> !paste | Sonnyx4
[04:10] <G-man> get bakc to u guys in twenty minutes
[04:10] <Chascon> I thought VLC and mplayer were Lire projects
[04:10] <Chascon> Libre
[04:10] <Korlis> djbuggsy, of course, like i said, it has all the codecs and all the drivers you'll need
[04:10] <Korlis> plus some awesome apps
[04:10] <shane2peru> KB1JWQ: is there a command to dump directly to a pastebin?
[04:10] <Sonnyx4> alright how, should I start fdisk with some special parameters? or should I just type Fdisk??
[04:10] <Sonnyx4> because I can only see a "help message"
[04:11] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: sudo fdisk /dev/sda. then whack p at the prompt and press enter
[04:11] <djbuggsy> Korlis, I appreciate the info.   Will give it a try if I can't get simple text 1024x768 to work.
[04:11] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: If that bombs, try it with /dev/sdb
[04:11] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Take a look at df to determine which disk naming is appropriate; drop the number at the end.
[04:11] <barqs> Anyone know how to get the default ubuntu respository list?
[04:11] <KB1JWQ> !paste | shane2peru
[04:11] <PMantis> Sonnyx4: KB1JWQ:  Why not use:   fdisk -l /dev/sda  ?
[04:11] <Sonnyx4> I did
[04:12] <Korlis> djbuggsy, im a Debian lover, for myself its what i love, but if im giving away a computer i always put superos on it, and i make it look like whatever the recipient wants
[04:12] <Sonnyx4> it asked me for password and now I can see other "things" haha I'm a newbie :D
[04:12] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: KB1JWQ PMantis  it is sudo fdisk -l  to list all
[04:12] <KB1JWQ> PMantis: Because I'm hoping he'll take the time to look around and see what else is there. :-)
[04:12] <Newbie_> please how do i partition my HDD?
[04:12] <Korlis> no muxcking around with anything but the looks, and thats awesome
[04:12] <jjrev> !pastebinit
[04:12] <Newbie_> please how do i partition my HDD in jaunty?
[04:12] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, the easiest way is to plug it in... otherwise you need to get the debs from http://packages.ubuntu.com and transfer on cd or usb
[04:12] <Sonnyx4> it says: "Command for help"
[04:12] <PMantis> Sonnyx4: KB1JWQ:  shane2peru:  Keep in mind that I'm just coming in to the middle of a conversation, but I get nervous when it looks like they're ggetting eucation on fdisk. :)
[04:13] <shane2peru> PMantis: right, me too
[04:13] <jjrev> Newbie_: are you booted off the CD?
[04:13] <KB1JWQ> PMantis: My money says he's already lost his data, I'm just confirming that now.
[04:13] <KB1JWQ> PMantis: Short version is he can't see his Winders partitions.
[04:13] <Newbie_> no
[04:13] <afallenhope> Out_Cold how would I go about installing them?
[04:13] <Sonnyx4> we're newbies some patience please! someday we might become masters :O
[04:13] <PMantis> KB1JWQ: Ahhh
[04:13] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, try lshw in terminal and see if there is a driver installed
[04:13] <Ububegin> I am decideing between using diff and cmp.. can someone take a look here and give me a hint... http://pastebin.com/m7b7f27a0
[04:13] <ctmjr_> !gparted | Newbie_
[04:13] <LucidGuy> Network Manager is only logging into my WiFi when I login into gnome.  In the past I would simply set within network manager -> edit wifi connection and put a check in the "Connect Automatically" option.  Yet this is checked and still not available till I login.  Any suggestions?
[04:13] <Korlis> to me it sounds like he installed ubuntu over windows
[04:13] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, look for a 802.11 section
[04:14] <jjrev> Newbie_: you can't repartition the drive you are booted from
[04:14] <KB1JWQ> Korlis: That's my guess.
[04:14] <PMantis> KB1JWQ: I hate to say it, but his best chance might be with a second windows computer, and a recovery program designed for windows.
[04:14] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, the lats line of the section will say if there is a driver installed for the card already
[04:14] <Newbie_> i have downloaded and brunt the Gparted livecd to cd but i dnt understand
[04:14] <PMantis> KB1JWQ: Let the program determine where the partitions are...
[04:14] <Korlis> thats why i always tell people who aren't sure to run wubi first
[04:15] <jjrev> Newbie_: what don't you understand?
[04:15] <KB1JWQ> PMantis: Nah, testdisk makes a great filecarver if you run it from a LiveCD
[04:15] <ctmjr_> Newbie_: have you booted into it yet?
[04:15] <shane2peru> KB1JWQ: for that much of a noob, sudo fdisk -l would have been simpler
[04:15] <Newbie_> jjrev can i pm you please?
[04:15] <PMantis> KB1JWQ: testdisk? I'll have to look at that.
[04:15] <jjrev> Newbie_: sure
[04:15] <Wildbat> anyone know why eclipse is soooooo much slower then windows and also debugger fails in ubuntu ? and any fix?
[04:15] <afallenhope> Out_Cold okay give me a sec
[04:15] <PMantis> shane2peru: That was my thought. :)
[04:15] <KB1JWQ> shane2peru: To be fair, he hadn't let on his noob level until after that came out. :-)
[04:16] <Korlis> i dont even know what eclipse is
[04:16] <PMantis> lol
[04:16] <stlsaint> DK_CE, you there
[04:16] <KB1JWQ> shane2peru: That said, I concede the point.
[04:16] <Sonnyx4> alright people, I've finally obtained the partition list :D from Fdisk: http://pastebin.com/m3000c5be
[04:16] <shane2peru> KB1JWQ: it is good to assume noob and work up. :)
[04:16] <nic1> how to install gtalk on ubuntu?
[04:16] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Yeah, you're boned.
[04:16] <Sonnyx4> so I deleted the other parittions?
[04:17] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Yeah.  Time to restore from backup.
[04:17] <barqs> Is there a way to get the ubuntu repository list back to the original?
[04:17] <Korlis> yeah, windows i gone
[04:17] <Sonnyx4> maybe the file table is lost but the data is still in there, there must be some app that could recover that
[04:17] <shane2peru> barqs: did you make a backup before messing with it?
[04:17] <lash9420> Okay. I have had some trouble installing Ubuntu on my HP DV6000 series laptop. Any tips? What architecture should I use? I have an AMD Turion X2 processor. It says 64 on the sticker too but I dont think i have a 64 bit processor. maybe I do.
[04:17] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: At your experience level?  Pay a professional if it's important.
[04:17] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: You're likely to make it worse if you don't.
[04:17] <PMantis> KB1JWQ: He *could* create a new partition, from 1 - 18971, flag is as dos (or whatever) and hope the data is still there.
[04:18] <danbhfive> lash9420: 32bit.  Your cpu probably supports 64, but your other hardware may not
[04:18] <Korlis> the more you use your computer the more chance you will overwrite the data you want to save by the way
[04:18] <KB1JWQ> PMantis: That seems a bit of a hail mary.
[04:18] <Sonnyx4> I know apps in windows that can recover data from "formatted" or "badly partitionated disks"
[04:18] <barqs> shange2peru: Stupidly, No, I didn't mean to save as I was closing it..
[04:18] <Sonnyx4> there must be one in ubuntu as well
[04:18] <Out_Cold> is there a way to "grep foo" print so many following lines?
[04:18] <afallenhope> Out_Cold it just says "wlan0" but it doesn't specify the driver also, if I try to run ifconfig wlan0 up it says no such file or directoy
[04:18] <KB1JWQ> PMantis: I'd probably dd it to an external and do recovery on the image.
[04:18] <PMantis> KB1JWQ: Heheh, I've done it before. :)  But, you have to exactly match the begin and end block.
[04:18] <shane2peru> barqs: what Ubuntu are you using?  Jaunty?
[04:19] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, iwconfig show anything?
[04:19] <KB1JWQ> PMantis: Yeah.  And the likelihood of that in this case would be....? :-)
[04:19] <Korlis> KB1JWQ that assumes he has a second computer to hook his HD up to
[04:19] <webbb82> anyone have a clue why i would get this error E: kubuntu-docs: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:19] <lash9420> danbhfive: Ok. Thanks. But which the amd or the i386? im a windows guy i dont understand much out of it.
[04:19] <Sonnyx4> alright, another noob question: how do I back up?? :P
[04:19] <KB1JWQ> Korlis: Yeah.  Which in turn goes back to my suggestion to "pay a professional."
[04:19] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Get an external drive.
[04:19] <sup3rs3nior> I need a bit of help getting my swap partition to mount automatically.
[04:19] <PMantis> KB1JWQ: Point taken.. no way to know if there was a recovery partition there, plus a data partition...
[04:19] <barqs> shane2Peru, yes, ubuntu 9.04
[04:19] <afallenhope> Out_Cold yes.
[04:19] <danbhfive> lash9420: i386 = 32bit.  amd64 = b4bit because AMD invented the 64bit instruction set
[04:20] <Sonnyx4> there must be a "softwarish" way to do it KB1JWQ ^
[04:20] <Out_Cold> afallenhope, anything important?
[04:20] <Sonnyx4> ^^
[04:20] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: What data do you need back?
[04:20] <Sonnyx4> just some music and pictures
[04:20] <afallenhope> Out_Cold lol nope. And I tried iwlist wlan0 scan and it didn't do anything fun.
[04:20] <Korlis> there are undelete utilities sonny, but anything you install could be overwriting what you want to save
[04:20] <afallenhope> just said the card was down
[04:20] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: $600 for this type of situation using OnTrack's data recovery.
[04:20] <Sonnyx4> lol no way
[04:21] <lash9420> danbhfive: Cool. Thanks. So when I have gone to do this before, it freezes on the Ubuntu booting. I have to press the power button for it to contunue
[04:21] <Sonnyx4> I'm a windows user! ahww I should have changed that long time ago
[04:21] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Yeah.  I charge half of that and make a killing most days. :-D
[04:21] <MadSeaDog> anyway to rename computer without reinstalling?
[04:21] <PMantis> Sonnyx4: Dropbox is a neat way to auto-sync files to a server in the could... clients for Win/Max/Linux.
[04:21] <sup3rs3nior> How might I add a swap partition to my "boot list"?
[04:22] <Out_Cold> you'll have to find the driver from http://packages.ubuntu.com it'll be b43 or you can check for other broadcom drivers like bc43xx
[04:22] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: You have to realize something here.  It's ceased to be a Windows vs Linux question; you've got to recover the data using a file carver, and that's fairly OS agnostic.  Use what you know.
[04:22] <Sonnyx4> alright, I think I'll have to ask Mr. Google what to do, he knows everything
[04:22] <Out_Cold> download the deb to disk and open them on yout other box..
[04:22] <Korlis> super senior, you can't boot to a swap partition
[04:22] <Sonnyx4> :P
[04:22] <CoUrPsE> :/, How can i mv all files from subdirs into 1 directory?
[04:22] <sup3rs3nior> Korlis, I mean I want it to mount on boot...
[04:23] <PMantis> Sonnyx4: Check out:  http://www.topshareware.com/easy-recovery-pro-v6.03/downloads/1.htm
[04:23] <Loafers> CoUrPsE, Using shell or gui?
[04:23] <danbhfive> sup3rs3nior: is it in your fstab?
[04:23] <Korlis> it should automatically mount
[04:23] <CoUrPsE> shell.
[04:23] <shane2peru> barqs: here is mine:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/268352/  I cut out the other's, but you still may want to comment out backports and others
[04:23] <PMantis> Sonnyx4: However, we're quickly getting off-topic... :)
[04:23] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Where are you located?
[04:23] <LucidGuy> Ok I once was able to set network manager to start up and login to my wifi without me logging into gnome.  Anyone remember how to do this?
[04:23] <lash9420>  So when I have gone to do this before, it freezes on the Ubuntu booting. I have to press the power button for it to contunue. Any tips on what I should do different??
[04:23] <Sonnyx4> KB1JWQ: at home.. wnna know the country? argentina
[04:23] <danbhfive> lash9420: have you tied the 32bit cd?  I figured you should try that
[04:24] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Yeah, not close enough to be useful.
[04:24] <Loafers> CoUrPsE, In terminal type: man mv
[04:24] <CoUrPsE> :/
[04:24] <sup3rs3nior> danbhfive, I'm guessing not.. I see some unfriendly looking text but nothing about "swap partition"
[04:24] <lash9420> danbhfive yeah, thats what ive tried.
[04:24] <Sonnyx4> you??
[04:24] <Korlis> Sonnyx4, your best bet is to remove your hard drive and hook it up to an external dock on a nother ocmputer that has the utility you need installed
[04:24] <Out_Cold> LucidGuy, add network manager to startup in admin menu and sett network manager to auto connect to your networks
[04:24] <cnu_> Hello Wicker
[04:24] <lash9420> danbhfive the video card and wifi card are messed up.
[04:24] <Jorsher> hello?
[04:24] <Out_Cold> ** preference menu
[04:24] <Sonnyx4> well I've also selected a 4 gb installation that means that my whole 165 GB disk is not being used lol
[04:24] <danbhfive> lash9420: wait, I thought it wouldnt boot?
[04:25] <Sonnyx4> I thought the ubuntu cd was going to create a partition without damaging the others lol
[04:25] <Korlis> KB1JWQ, what do you use?
[04:25] <danbhfive> sup3rs3nior: add a line like this: /dev/sdb1	none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:25] <KB1JWQ> Korlis: For what?
[04:25] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: if you are in Argentina, you should be able to find someone to recover the data can't you?
[04:25] <OneMillionDollar> failed to load external entity "/root/.tvtime/tvtime.xml <- what is this
[04:25] <Korlis> fir data recovery
[04:25] <lash9420> danbhfive, It does. After I press the power button. Someone told me that stopped all the drives or something. but if I dont then it will jst sit there.
[04:25] <linuxninja> Is there an email client that supports AES encryption
[04:25] <LucidGuy> Out_Cold, What exactly do you mean "add netwokr manager to startup in admin"?
[04:25] <meoblast001> what package is autoreconf in?
[04:25] <CoUrPsE> Loafers, I see nothing there to help, :/
[04:25] <danbhfive> lash9420: so you can install?
[04:25] <Sonnyx4> shane2peru: I never ever ever ever paid someone for fixing my computer lol
[04:25] <Sonnyx4> and I never will
[04:25] <Sonnyx4> lol
[04:25] <lash9420> danbhfive, yes
[04:25] <KB1JWQ> Korlis: Usually a combination of ddrescue and testdisk.  Foremost if I'm going for a specific filetype.
[04:26] <KB1JWQ> Sonnyx4: Good luck to you then, sir. :-)
[04:26] <Jorsher> anyone know a thing or two about "/dev/root: No such file or directory" errors?  I've been searching for hours :(
[04:26] <danbhfive> lash9420: have you updated after that?  and install linux-backports-modules-generic ?
[04:26] <Sonnyx4> oh you want me to pay you???
[04:26] <Sonnyx4> lol
[04:26] <Korlis> I usually use Backtrack 4 and save the data to an external HD
[04:26] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: well, in that case, in the true spirit of a DIY, you should get the windows program you are familiar with to get the data back
[04:26] <Jorsher> i will pay money :/
[04:26] <Sonnyx4> im just kidding
[04:26] <jjrev> Jorsher: what is your situation exactly?
[04:26] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: For what? :-)
[04:26] <Out_Cold> LucidGuy, go to systems menu>preferences>startup
[04:26] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: and keep good backups. :)
[04:26] <Out_Cold> then add "network manager"
[04:26] <afallenhope> Out_Cold basically the issue was the fact that I need to get the firmware
[04:26] <Sonnyx4> yes but I'm lazy I wanna do it easily through ubuntu without getting out of my chair
[04:26] <jjrev> Jorsher: sounds like a boot issue
[04:26] <lash9420> danbhfive, i cant because I don't have wifi. I guess I could plug it in too. It's been so long since i've done this. Sorry...haha
[04:26] <Jorsher> here's a link with all the pertinent info -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7924229#post7924229
[04:26] <barqs> Shane2peru: Thank you so much! I've been searching all over for this
[04:27] <Jorsher> i would seriously paypal $5 or something if someone could figure it out :/ lol
[04:27] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: I played with data recovery before, and it isn't easy, you are going to have to google and read a lot, I don't remember how to do it.
[04:27] <danbhfive> lash9420: yeah, you should try that,  that's where the bugfixes would be
[04:27] <Jorsher> i've set up quotas before and am having back luck this time
[04:27] <shane2peru> barqs: no prob, that is off my box
[04:27] <lash9420> Jorsher: ha i would paypal someone 10 bucks to get this on my laptop!!
[04:27] <CoUrPsE> :/, How can i mv all files from subdirs into 1 directory? using cli.
[04:27] <danbhfive> Jorsher: what's the problem?
[04:27] <LucidGuy> Out_Cold, Ohh thats all set already, yet still not auto connecting driving me nuts.
[04:27] <Jorsher> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7924229#post7924229 <- this explains it
[04:27] <Jorsher> it's mostly a /dev/root error
[04:28] <G-man> wow... its installing from the download but not the cd, how strange :)
[04:28] <Loafers> CoUrPsE, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/basic.html Scroll down.
[04:28] <lash9420> danbhfive: Okay. Should I go with version 9.04?
[04:28] <Jorsher> but i have my fstab, mtab, etc on that thread
[04:28] <CoUrPsE> Loafers, Thanks man.
[04:28] <danbhfive> lash9420: yeah, isn't that what you have been trying?
[04:28] <nic1> can t  i install gtalk on ubuntu?
[04:28] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: Reiserfs?  Brave.
[04:28] <Jorsher> i didn't set it to that lol
[04:28] <Jorsher> should it be set to something normal?
[04:28] <lash9420> danbhfive: Last time I did it it was still version 8.04
[04:28] <Out_Cold> LucidGuy, check your network manager and make sure it's highlighted to auto connect as well... and the passwords are right
[04:28] <troxor> Jorsher: try ext3
[04:28] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: there are apps, in Ubuntu to to it, but just using the disk reduces the chances of getting data off, it is being written to and used as you use it.
[04:28] <CoUrPsE> Loafers, How does that help me? :/
[04:28] <danbhfive> lash9420: ah, yeah, definitely try a later version
[04:28] <fccf> nic1: you can use gtalk through pidgin
[04:29] <Jorsher> troxor - can i change it without losing data?
[04:29] <troxor> Jorsher: nope! :)
[04:29] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: Ah, you want quotas.  Got it.
[04:29] <Jorsher> ahhhhhh
[04:29] <Sonnyx4> shane2peru:  In theory it is complicated because the date on disks are written "straight forward" and the only way to "know" where a file starts or ends is by means of a "table" which is stored with the partition list at the "0 track" or something (sorry I read this in spanish)... the fact of the matter is that most of programs that do this recovery thing do it automatically
[04:29] <Loafers> CoUrPsE, You wanted to learn how to move files using command line correct?  Well that shows you how...
[04:29] <Jorsher> yes quotas, i'm sharing it with a couple people and would like it set up
[04:29] <nic1> through pidgin?
[04:29] <nic1> ok
[04:29] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: Okay, first step:  webmin is NOT your friend.
[04:29] <CoUrPsE> I want to learn how to move files from a subdirectorys into 1 directory.
[04:29] <Jorsher> lol
[04:29] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: yes, but you are trying to recover off ntfs, which complicates things
[04:29] <lash9420> danbhfive: okay. I mean the one other computer ive installed this on its worked perfectly. But for my laptop. The most important computer. It wont. Im so lost....
[04:29] <LucidGuy> Out_Cold, do you know how to start up the network manager from the command line?
[04:29] <Jorsher> ok
[04:29] <Jorsher> 2nd step? :P
[04:29] <shane2peru> Sonnyx4: it is a very slow process too.
[04:30] <CoUrPsE> eg, 20 sub dirs, move files from each subdir into 1 dir, 1 command.
[04:30] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: Either admin the box, or pay someone to do it; if you try to do it via a GUI you're in for a world of pain.
[04:30] <danbhfive> lash9420: well, it takes time for newer hardware to get supported
[04:30] <Loafers> CoUrPsE, mv /somelocation/file /destination/folder
[04:30] <CoUrPsE> :/
[04:30] <Jorsher> kb - i admin it, someone on that thread told me to try it
[04:30] <CoUrPsE> You still do not understand.
[04:30] <danbhfive> lash9420: it maybe as simple as that
[04:30] <Jorsher> last time i set up quotas i didn't use webmin
[04:30] <Loafers> CoUrPsE, ?
[04:30] <Sonnyx4> yes because it must determine by means of patters where a file starts and ends... mp3s, jpgs.. etc... binary data might be seen as "chunk data"
[04:30] <Out_Cold> LucidGuy, type network-manager &
[04:30] <CoUrPsE> I cant put it more simpular, :/
[04:30] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: Where are you seeing that root error?
[04:30] <lash9420> danbhfive: This laptop got released in 2007 or 2008? Id think they had drivers by now...
[04:30] <Jorsher> when i do quotacheck -vagum
[04:30] <afallenhope> has ubuntu removed a few things from their systems? because my wireless used to work on startup
[04:31] <shane2peru> barqs: you are best off using System -> Administration -> Software sources for future references too.
[04:31] <afallenhope> like.. from the liveCD
[04:31] <Out_Cold> sorry LucidGuy type nm &
[04:31] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: And you did everything that tutorial said?
[04:31] <Loafers> afallenhope, you need to activate it.  click on the wireless icon on taskbar and connect
[04:31] <fccf> LucidGuy: Out_cold: it is network-admin
[04:31] <Sonnyx4> now I need a program for downlading music... like Ares... :P
[04:31] <Jorsher> exactly, yes
[04:31] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: And you didn't copy THEIR UUID, you used your own?
[04:31] <Jorsher> yes
[04:31] <troxor> afallenhope: sometimes drivers are updated, e.g. ath5k->ath9k, iirc
[04:32] <Jorsher> i installed quota, edited the fstab for usrquota/grpquota, remounted, get that error doing quotacheck
[04:32] <barqs> shane2Peru: Perfect, I no longer get the annoying "Partial Update" Message. And I will. For future references, I've created a backup in my documents folder! Thanks again :)
[04:32] <LucidGuy> fccf, Out_Cold  nope Ive tried them all.. none start up the connection manager for network manger
[04:32] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: I'm going to blame reiser; that's really the BIG difference I see here.
[04:32] <Sonnyx4> PMantis: by the way thank you for the topshareware link
[04:32] <shane2peru> barqs: no prob
[04:32] <LucidGuy> fccf, network-admin is a different tool
[04:32] <danbhfive> lash9420: you would still need to use a version later than 8.04 to find out
[04:32] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: If this is for production in any sense, and your offer to pay makes me suspect it is, you want something rock solid.
[04:32] <grendal_prime> i use to have a gnome app that was great for adjusting my montor layout...like when i want to expand my laptop desktop onto an external monitor..i cant find the app though
[04:32] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: That means ext3
[04:33] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: So who set this box up?
[04:33] <lash9420> danbhfive: Okay. So i386 version 9.04. Download and burn to a disk. Install. Do driver update. Got it all??
[04:33] <Jorsher> ok, i'm in usa so kimsufi wont sell me the box, so a friend did it
[04:33] <Jorsher> i'll have him reinstall and choose ext3 if he can
[04:33] <G-man> how do i install .net frameworkk
[04:33] <G-man> whats the proper command
[04:33] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: That being said, I think this is workable.
[04:33] <G-man> for latest?
[04:33] <Korlis> ok, so im still lacking in the original reason i came here
[04:33] <KB1JWQ> Jorsher: But you'll be happier if you DON'T use reiserfs. :-)
[04:33] <danbhfive> lash9420: yeah
[04:34] <Korlis> ew, ext4 for me, i sont like resier
[04:34] <lash9420> danbhfive: thanks for the hel!
[04:34] <lash9420> p
[04:34] <KB1JWQ> Korlis: ext4 is well and good until it's in production.
[04:34] <danbhfive> np
[04:34] <Korlis> zfs would be awesome, maybe cisco will port it to linux now that they own it
[04:34] <Loafers> G-man,  http://tr.im/yj3r
[04:35] <afallenhope> although it's a personal opinion Xubuntu vs Ubuntu anyone care to take a throb as to which is better?
[04:35] <shane2peru> KB1JWQ: what's the problems with ext4 in production?
[04:35] <Korlis> ext4 is perfectly stable
[04:35] <Solar_Flare> ,is here anyone who got a running pure-ftpd server?
[04:35] <jjrev> afallenhope: depends on your GUI preference
[04:35] <merma> gnome ftw , unless it's gnome3
[04:35] <KB1JWQ> shane2peru: It's not been battle tested enough.
[04:36] <KB1JWQ> shane2peru: For my use case, "production" is 300 servers.  I don't like being a testbed. :-)
[04:36] <G-man> thanks bro
[04:36] <danbhfive> afallenhope: Unless there is something you like about xubuntu, like low resource usage, then use ubuntu, since it is the most supported
[04:36] <shane2peru> KB1JWQ: ahh, right, I will agree there, I was reluctant to install it, but did on the OS parition
[04:36] <shane2peru> KB1JWQ: right, understood
[04:36] <Solar_Flare> -.-
[04:36] <nic1> i tried to add a group in pidgin, it is not showing the one i newly add
[04:36] <Solar_Flare> no one with a pure-ftp server... damn.
[04:36] <Korlis> kb1jwq i love ext4, fsck is much quicker and ive never had a prblem with it at all
[04:36] <G-man> bah instillation failed
[04:36] <G-man> wtf
[04:36] <nic1> and when i tried adding a contact, it is not asking me for mail address at all
[04:37] <KB1JWQ> Korlis: Neither have I, on my netbook.  But "my personal box" and "the datacenter's servers" are two different things.
[04:37] <kamelotusky> Hi there... hum... i have a problem...
[04:37] <Solar_Flare> nic1: try kopete
[04:37] <Loafers> !ask > kamelotusky
[04:37] <afallenhope> danbhfive actually the low resource usage is amazing.. would mean I could run WoW without issues. I figured Xubuntu and Ubuntu were pretty much the same.. but I'll be installing Ubuntu I guess ty
[04:37] <Korlis> KB1JWQ: WHAT os YOU USE ON THE SERVERS
[04:37] <Korlis> sorry, caps lock
[04:38] <KB1JWQ> Korlis: CentOS at this job; FreeBSD previously.
[04:38] <Korlis> KB1JWQ: i tried freebsd, pretty awesome. hey, like i said, maybe cisco will port ZFS to Linux now
[04:39] <kamelotusky> ok, i buyed a netbook a few days ago. and i want to change SO to Ubuntu... but I can't... when i'm in the process, it appears a problem.
[04:39] <Korlis> ZFS is probably the best FS to have in a production environment
[04:39] <fccf> Korlis: KB1JWQ: I've had 7% failure rate with ext4 ... I'm still not confident with it yet
[04:39] <shane2peru> kamelotusky: are you able to boot into the LiveCD and run that?
[04:40] <pythagoras> hi all
[04:40] <shane2peru> fccf: on what?  servers?
[04:40] <Korlis> fccf: i just use it at home, my office refuses to get rid of windows
[04:40] <pythagoras> can someone help me pls
[04:40] <Solar_Flare> !ask > pythagoras
[04:40] <shane2peru> !question | pythagoras
[04:41] <pythagoras> hey solar
[04:41] <alksjdfasdfa> anyone help me with karmic?
[04:41] <thaikien> is there any body using socket programming on Linux, pls help me
[04:41] <pythagoras> have a problem with my audio
[04:41] <KB1JWQ> fccf: Yeah, that's what concerns me.
[04:41] <fccf> shane2peru: I have a server farm for testing, over 400 machines, some of which are running ext4 ... I have hired people to run it ... I get status reports once a week
[04:41] <pythagoras> cannot listen to music
[04:41] <Solar_Flare> pthagoras: installed alsa?
[04:41] <Solar_Flare> thaikien: what programming?!
[04:41] <shane2peru> fccf: wow, 7%, that isn't good then
[04:41] <pythagoras> yes i have
[04:42] <thaikien> Java and socket on Linux
[04:42] <Solar_Flare> pythagoras: installed all updates?
[04:42] <xikteny> !karmic | alksjdfasdfa
[04:42] <pythagoras> yes i did ..well i think
[04:42] <papito> how do I tell ubuntu to turn off the computer in 2 hours ?
[04:42] <KB1JWQ> papito: using at
[04:42] <Solar_Flare> thaikien: isnt too hard in python... look in google?
[04:42] <Solar_Flare> thaikien: socket programming java linux
[04:42] <jrib> papito: read shutdown's man page
[04:42] <KB1JWQ> papito: sudo at $TIME_YOU_WANT
[04:42] <kamelotusky> ok, i got no answer... i think i'll go ask some other place.
[04:42] <kamelotusky> bye.
[04:42] <thaikien> thanks
[04:43] <papito> KB1JWQ , thanx
[04:43] <thaikien> yes
[04:43] <afallenhope> is there a tutorial on how to install Ubuntu with a "Home" on a seperate parition?
[04:43] <fccf> shane2peru: KB1JWQ: failures have all been on western digital though, which has been the clear winner in the past
[04:43] <IndyGunFreak> papito: you should be able to set it in System/Power Management.
[04:43] <danbhfive> afallenhope: is this a new install?
[04:43] <afallenhope> I know there's one on "changing" but I'm wondering about during the install process.
[04:43] <afallenhope> danbhfive yes. I'm completely wiping Windows.
[04:43] <jrib> papito: it makes more sense to use the shutdown command's ability to schedule a shutdown, not to use at
[04:43] <shane2peru> fccf: hdd failures, or rw failures?  I guess if they are all one brand that is narrowing it down some.
[04:44] <danbhfive> afallenhope: well, changing is harder.  All you have to do is do the partitioning, and then assign the partition you want as /home to /home during the install process
[04:44] <Solar_Flare> pythagoras: are you admin on your system?
[04:44] <pythagoras> anyone have any clues..about audio
[04:44] <pythagoras> yes iam
[04:44] <Solar_Flare> pythagoras: open a terminal
[04:44] <pythagoras> it was working yesterday..
[04:44] <Solar_Flare> type
[04:45] <fccf> shane2peru: my lead tech calls it Loss of Data ...which is of course un-acceptable... reformatting cleans them though and we put them back in line with the other systems
[04:45] <thirst> hi guys
[04:45] <shane2peru> fccf: yep, that would be rw failure, not hdd failure, that isn't good, odd it is with WD.
[04:45] <fccf> !hi | thirst
[04:46] <thirst> guys.. i connected my external USB to a mac and tried to format one partition .. but it blew away the entire partition table. :( I had 3 partitions first two of which I know the exact size, any way I can use fdisk to re create the partition table ?
[04:46] <fccf> shane2peru: I think of all the drives I have bought over the years WD has been the most reliable, some are even 10 y.o. and still functioning like brand new
[04:47] <jjrev> thirst: yes, but you might loose your data...
[04:47] <shane2peru> thirst if you are familiar with fdisk yes, otherwise it would be recommended to use gparted
[04:47] <jjrev> thirst: have you already written data to the disk with the MAC?
[04:48] <thirst> jjrev, what will cause me to loose data..
[04:48] <shane2peru> thirst:  ohh, wait, you meant re-create the partitions, that would be tough with gparted
[04:48] <thirst> jjrev, no. didnt write any data.. Mac data utility returned an error and exited within a second.. and the disk is untouched since..
[04:49] <jjrev> alright, how did you partition the disk previously?
[04:49] <thirst> in fact i tried to delete partition 2, it had no data.. I am interested only in partition 1(ntfs) and 3(ext3)
[04:49] <Wildbat> anyone know why eclipse is soooooo much slower then windows and also debugger fails in ubuntu ? and any fix?
[04:49] <thirst> I think i originally paritioned the disk on winXp
[04:50] <chadwyck> is anybody using ebox?
[04:50] <thirst> I found one online resource here http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/recovering.html but wanted  to know more details
[04:50] <jjrev> thirst: well, as long as you do the same partitions as before (exactly the same) it should be ok
[04:50] <RichiV> does anyone know of a good remote desktop for Ubuntu?.... something like teamviewer
[04:50] <neBulex> hi nerds
[04:50] <Korlis> hi neBulex
[04:50] <RichiV> neBulex: lol if u use ubuntu... ur most likely one to
[04:51] <RichiV> :)
[04:51] <neBulex> RichiH :D
[04:51] <neBulex> im jokking
[04:51] <RichiV> lol i know
[04:51] <shane2peru> hi | neBulex
[04:51] <Korlis> i want to build a gaming computer with Gentoo
[04:51] <RichiV> i am to... but it seems to be partly tru ;)
[04:51] <neBulex> shane2peru hi
[04:51] <shane2peru> !hi | neBulex
[04:51] <jjrev> thirst: yeah, you're going to have to be a little creative when doing that.  you have to make sure they are exactly the same size,...
[04:52] <thirst> jjrev, what are the reasons which will cause me to loose data even if I recreate the parition table with the exact same size
[04:52] <thirst> ok
[04:52] <RichiV> good luck with that... the gaming support for any linux is terrible as wine is like on of the one f the only best ways to game
[04:52] <jjrev> thirst: if they are the same size, then it should be recoverable
[04:53] <Korlis> RichiV:  plnety of good linux games out there, and crossover games will run pretty much any game i want to play. and with Gentoo i'll be able to fully utilize my hardware
[04:53] <jjrev> thirst: if you follow those instructions, it should get you what you want.
[04:53] <neBulex> xLeonardO misuga
[04:53]  * neBulex  06 [ Your Darkest Day ] < ?? > { 5.67MB }
[04:53] <neBulex> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:53] <thirst> I hope.. :)
[04:54]  * xLeonardO HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:54] <neBulex> µahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµa 350 hua's
[04:54] <neBulex> pode rir naum
[04:54] <jjrev> thirst: good luck, i've never done that before...
[04:54] <neBulex> ¬¬
[04:54] <xLeonardO> i will nuke yours.
[04:54] <Korlis> ?
[04:54] <xnockout> wkwkwkwkwkwk.....
[04:54] <neBulex> kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:54]  * xLeonardO HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:54] <RichiV> Korlis : ok :) like i said GL
[04:54] <jrib> xLeonardO, neBulex: stop now.
[04:54] <xLeonardO> [jrib]: fuck
[04:54]  * xLeonardO HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[04:54] <xnockout> Booorrreeeeddd????
[04:54] <FloodBot1> xLeonardO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <neBulex> jrib sorry uncle
[04:54] <RichiV> -_-
[04:54] <RichiV> stop please
[04:55] <shane2peru> !language | xLeonardO
[04:55] <scriptwarlock> yeah his going to use the paste bin for his laugh gesture
[04:55] <neBulex> sorry dudes
[04:55] <thirst> jjrev, thanks!. will let you know how it went.. :)
[04:55] <xLeonardO> ubuntu is trash
[04:55] <neBulex> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:56] <xLeonardO> kkk
[04:56] <xLeonardO> nunca vi tanto nerd reunido
[04:56] <xLeonardO> pqp
[04:56] <neBulex> [xLeonardO]: aki tem viu
[04:56] <jrib> xLeonardO: if you wish to remain in the channel, then please be productive (either giving or receiving support).  Take other chat elsewhere please
[04:56] <Wildbat> someone just give him the ban he want
[04:56] <neBulex> jrib u sounds so nerd....
[04:56] <xLeonardO> [jrib]: i dont speak english.
[04:56] <Solar_Flare> !spam > xLeonard0
[04:56] <xLeonardO> ;x
[04:57] <scriptwarlock> troll
[04:57] <Solar_Flare> !gtfo > xLeonard0
[04:57] <chadwyck> is there any other way besides pppoeconf to set up pppoe?
[04:57] <jrib> xLeonardO: eu sei bem que to compreendeste
[04:57] <xLeonardO> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:57] <Flannel> Solar_Flare: That's entirely not necessary.
[04:57] <xLeonardO> [jrib]: tu é brasileiro
[04:57] <neBulex> kkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:57] <xLeonardO> seu fdp
[04:57] <xLeonardO> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[04:57] <neBulex> hµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµahµa 222 hua's
[04:57] <FloodBot1> xLeonardO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <Korlis> shills and trolls are fun
[04:57] <scriptwarlock> well its time to kick some ass
[04:57] <gwildor> the bot bail?
[04:57] <Solar_Flare> chadwyck: yes. open networkmanager -> cable -> pppoe
[04:58] <Wildbat> GJ, jrib
[04:58] <chadwyck> i am using console only (server)
[04:59] <chadwyck> i am trying to set up ebox and pppoe seems to have problems
[04:59] <adub_> i just set an application to run using the startup applications option
[04:59] <poi77> Hi! Anyone know of a NAS software/hardware solution for Ubuntu 9.04 systems?
[04:59] <adub_> how can i without using the command line evoke the application to start without reboot
[04:59] <drygrain> anyone around can tell me why my sound is barely audible
[04:59] <drygrain> wow lots of askers and no answerers :)
[05:00] <pythagoras> hey solar u there
[05:00] <shane2peru> adub_: alt-f2 and type the command. :)
[05:00] <adub_> thanks
[05:00] <Solar_Flare> drygrain: there is a speaker symbol up in the right corner
[05:00] <chadwyck> poi there are plenty
[05:00] <andylockran> hey guys, can someone advise me how to get a terminal app (such as wget or lynx) to pass through a ssh proxy (ssh -d 8080 $remotehost)
[05:00] <Solar_Flare> click on it and pump the volume up.
[05:00] <drygrain> it is Solar_Flare
[05:00] <shane2peru> drygrain: start answering. :)
[05:00] <drygrain> i have done everything obvious
[05:00] <jrib> andylockran: check out tsocks
[05:00] <andylockran> jrib: thanks
[05:00] <drygrain> shane2peru, i'm a dreadful noob
[05:01] <drygrain> shane2peru, i'm working on it though
[05:01] <shane2peru> drygrain: in that case ask the question. :)
[05:01] <yassine_> arabi here?
[05:02] <ctmjr_> drygrain: open a terminal and type alsamixer make sure volumes are up using the arrow keys
[05:02] <prohna> alright i got linux installed
[05:02] <prohna> anyone know where i can go to learn to hack my friend?
[05:02] <t0s> lol
[05:02] <Jorsher> lulz
[05:02] <pythagoras> lol
[05:02] <adub_> if i put items in rclocal so that they run on boot do they run as root?
[05:02] <drygrain> thanks ctmjr_  and Solar_Flare
[05:02] <prohna> hes a real jerk
[05:03] <yOLiD_GUNS> ai..
[05:03] <drygrain> lol prohna
[05:03] <prohna> i wanna steal his parents bank info and make them lose their house
[05:03] <soreau> prohna: fail
[05:03] <Jorsher> if you're asking, i doubt we can help you :)
[05:03] <pythagoras> anyone know how i can get my audio bacck
[05:03] <jrib> prohna: not here.
[05:03] <fccf> prohna: that isn't appropriate for this channel
 tell me if you found
[05:03] <prohna> well i got linux installed
[05:03] <soreau> prohna: bye
[05:03] <prohna> i just need to know whats next
[05:03] <prohna> thats it
[05:03] <Jorsher> getting linux installed doesn't require too much
[05:03] <fccf> prohna: read www.ubuntupocketguide.com ... free book
[05:03] <jrib> prohna: go to tldp.org and start reading
[05:04] <prohna> dude it took me all day to get it installed
[05:04] <chadwyck> lol
[05:04] <maxxist> I actually find linux easier to install than windows now.
[05:04] <Jorsher> i wouldn't go THAT far
[05:04] <Jorsher> but it's not that difficult :D
[05:04] <chadwyck> watch the movie hackers and take notes
[05:04] <shane2peru> prohna: if it took you all day to get linux installed, don't hack nothing, you will be in jail
[05:04] <gandhi> yay for reinstalling ubuntu twice in one day
[05:04] <Jorsher> lol chadwyck
[05:04] <prohna> i finally figured out that i needed to make my swap file 10gb
[05:04] <prohna> then it worked
[05:04] <gandhi> if only i hadn't fucked wiht it so much
[05:04] <jrib> prohna: umm, you shouldn't need a 10gb swap...
[05:04] <fccf> !ohmy | gandhi
[05:05] <Jorsher> holy hell
[05:05] <Jorsher> i use 512kb of my swap
[05:05] <gandhi> oops
[05:05] <gandhi> my bad
[05:05] <prohna> man this chat is better than aim
[05:05] <_Loki> Windows has got all that Genuine Advantage stuff you have to get past... a real pain to install.
[05:05] <Jorsher> with only 2gb ram :/
[05:05] <prohna> how to i see my buddies tho
[05:05] <pythagoras> anyone know how to get my audio back
[05:05] <shane2peru> !language | Jorsher
[05:05] <gandhi> lol, the genuine advantage stuff really doesn't do anything
[05:05] <gandhi> and its been got past so many times
[05:06] <Jorsher> the opposite of heaven is a bad word?
[05:06] <prohna> for some reason when i move my mouse my music stops playing
[05:06] <gandhi> do i need a swap partition since i turn my swap off anyway?
[05:06] <CoUrPsE> How can i make awk exec a system command?
[05:06] <prohna> im pretty sure its a bug in vlc tho because if i close vlc it doesnt happen anymore
[05:06] <pantaloon> solution: don't move your mouse
[05:06] <pantaloon> :D
[05:06] <fccf> Jorsher: in some circles, yes, and with over 1000 people reading every word, that's alot of circles
[05:06] <jrib> gandhi: if you want to hibernate
[05:07] <drygrain> lol
[05:07] <Jorsher> wow
[05:07] <soreau> gandhi: Yes, you need a swap partition mounted
[05:07] <gandhi> swap is for hibernate also?
[05:07] <Jorsher> i doubt the 1000 reading every word
[05:07] <gandhi> ah, thats a shame
[05:07] <chadwyck> prohna, there is a script to upgrade alsa to the latest. solved tons of problems for me.
[05:07] <gandhi> can i just make it small like a gig
[05:07] <drygrain> 1260 in this chan
[05:07] <gandhi> instead of 4
[05:07] <Jorsher> 1260 that aren't idle?
[05:07] <gandhi> or does it have to be same size as memory?
[05:07] <drygrain> and the logs are published
[05:07] <chadwyck> check the forums on xbmc
[05:07] <drygrain> on www
[05:07] <Jorsher> nice :P
[05:07] <itai_michaelson> hi, i have a command called "gs" by user "lp" taking 100% of my CPU, what is that?
[05:07] <MilkmanDan> So, I've read about 30 pages of sticky forum posts on 32bit vs. 64bit, but none of them mention whether or not you're supposed to download the amd64 iso for 64bit Intel platforms.
[05:07] <Declination> itai_michaelson: did you print something?
[05:07] <soreau> gandhi: Generally speaking, it should be twice the size of your RAM
[05:07] <prohna> does anyone have any links on how to hack?
[05:08] <prohna> i thought this was the place to go for help
[05:08] <soreau> ! swap | gandhi
[05:08] <drygrain> no prohna
[05:08] <Jorsher> prohna - there's this google thing
[05:08] <error404notfound> i have "reshclam; clamscan --bell -r --max-dir-recursion=40 --log=/var/log/clamav/`date +%b%d%Y%H%M%S`.log -i /" in cron and upon execution it says: "/bin/sh: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution"
[05:08] <fccf> itai_michaelson: ghostscript ... part of printing ... lp is the print group
[05:08] <chadwyck> amd64 works for all x86-64
[05:08] <gandhi> but i have 4 gigs of ram, thats why i turn off the swap in the first place
[05:08] <drygrain> lol
[05:08] <itai_michaelson> Decepticon, yes
[05:08] <prohna> you cant hack with google
[05:08] <gandhi> i know what hte swap does
[05:08] <Jorsher> you haven't tried obviously
[05:08] <Jorsher>  you'll probably have better luck finding their banking info with google than trying to hack
[05:08] <prohna> also how do i know if someones trying to hack me
[05:08] <itai_michaelson> Decepticon, fccf , is there a way to limit the resources it takes?
[05:08] <xikteny> !cracking | prohna
[05:08] <gandhi> my ram usage never gets above like 512mb anyway
[05:09] <Jorsher> they usually call you first and ask your permission prohna
[05:09] <prohna> im not pirating anything sir
[05:09] <chadwyck> prohna, do a search on amazon for "google hacking"
[05:09] <Jorsher> ^^
[05:09] <fccf> itai_michaelson: did you try to print something that didn't come out?
[05:09] <G-man> how do i get .net framework
[05:09] <Jorsher> i got a book, Google Hacking 2009
[05:09] <G-man> to install
[05:09] <prohna> why cant i talk about hacking in a linux chatroom
[05:09] <G-man> to wine
[05:09] <prohna> i dont understand
[05:09] <Jorsher> it was amazing
[05:09] <xikteny> prohna: "...other questionably legal practices..."
[05:09] <fccf> G-man: ask in #winehq
[05:10] <prohna> but its linux
[05:10] <pantaloon> get a mac, then check out the movie hackers...that's how i learned
[05:10] <prohna> i was told if i wanted to hack my friend to install linux
[05:10] <prohna> so i did
[05:10] <itai_michaelson> fccf, it does come out, i print quite often, but i also host files on this machine and users tell me accessing their files takes a long time
[05:10] <Jorsher> he's right, mac makes it easy
[05:10] <Jorsher> you just download iHack
[05:10] <prohna> i even installed it over 50gbs of music
[05:10] <jrib> prohna: linux is about Free software.  You've been told your question is offtopic, take it elsewhere please
[05:10] <prohna> what question
[05:10] <prohna> im not asking how to hack anymore
[05:10] <prohna> im asking how come i cant ask to hack
[05:10] <jrib> prohna: ok, then let's move on
[05:10] <prohna> thats different
[05:10] <FloodBot1> prohna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <pantaloon> hey does anyone know if the intel xorg fiasco is fixed in ubuntu 9.10?
[05:11] <jrib> prohna: just stop....
[05:11] <chadwyck> hacking has a more politically correct term called "penetration testing". we are pc here
[05:11] <fccf> !guidelines | prohna
[05:11] <prohna> is there a chatroom for hacking then?
[05:11] <jrib> !offtopic | prohna
[05:11] <chadwyck> #2600
[05:11] <pantaloon> i'm installing 9.10 alpha right now, so i guess i'll find out regardless...just wondering if anyone knows offhand
[05:11] <itai_michaelson> prohna, try /b/
[05:11] <jrib> !karmic | pantaloon
[05:11] <chadwyck> go and give them bits of info on you
[05:11] <prohna> whats b
[05:12] <pantaloon> ah, thanks
[05:12] <Ramady> My Bandluxe 120 works with Kppp but I could not make it working with network manager
[05:12] <chadwyck> anyone using ebox with 8 4?
[05:13] <prohna> i dont know what ebox is
[05:13] <Jorsher> anyone using kimsufi/ovh hosting?
[05:13] <fccf> itai_michaelson: it takes processing power to process every page you print ... especially if it is anything but text... so your desktop acting as a print server .. file host ... and whatever else you are running will slow everything down to a crawl, again depending on your hardware... nethalem might make you productive
[05:13] <blur> so there are over 1200 ppl here..
[05:13] <blur> and no one says 1 single GOD DAMNED THING
[05:13] <jrib> !patience | blur
[05:13] <prohna> do you know how to hack blur ?
[05:13] <craig> 1 single GOD DAMN THING
[05:14] <soreau> blur: Watch the language
[05:14] <soreau> craig: Watch it
[05:14]  * jrib knows that attitude is half the battle in getting your question answered
[05:14] <blur> ya craig
[05:14] <blur> watch your filthy trap ya pig
[05:14] <chadwyck> i know how to hack blur
[05:14] <jrib> blur: be respectful of others in this channel please.
[05:14] <itai_michaelson> fccf, nethalem as in the processor ?
[05:14] <blur> you couldn't hack your way out of a paper bag
[05:14] <fccf> itai_michaelson: yes the intel processor (multi core)
[05:15] <soreau> blur: craig: If you dont ask in the right manner, its likely you wont get a response
[05:15] <Jorsher> nephalem btw
[05:15] <andylockran> jrib, thanks for the tsocks recommendation - works a treat :)
[05:15] <fccf> jrib: is there anything we can help you with today? nice guy
[05:15] <blur> wow
[05:15] <blur> freenode seems lame
[05:15] <Ramady> My Bandluxe 120 works with Kppp but I could not make it working with network manager
[05:15] <craig> I havent asked anything, well not yet atleast ;p but my apologies for my abuse :)
[05:15] <blur> maybe i just don't "get" irc anymore
[05:15] <Jorsher> yeah you could probably find somewhere cooler blur
[05:15] <itai_michaelson> blur try /b/
[05:15] <Flannel> itai_michaelson: Stop that.
[05:15] <blur> i have a question
[05:15] <jrib> itai_michaelson: stop with the /b/ already...
[05:16] <blur> why do you guys S U C K so hard?
[05:16] <chadwyck>  blur is old school
[05:16] <gandhi> pantaloon, you should check out the xorg edgers ppa
[05:16] <prohna> i just want to hack
[05:16] <prohna> can someone please assist me
[05:16] <gandhi> their intel drivers are much better
[05:16] <thundershockatta> is there a program to delete duplicate songs?
[05:16] <t0s> my sound works and all, but im curious when i turn it the volume half way i dont hear nothing, its like it only works half way and up like theres not many "levels" of volume
[05:16] <t0s> is that normal?
[05:16] <jrib> whoever has the night shift has their work cut out for them
[05:17] <Jorsher> i doubt it's a feature
[05:17] <ctmjr> seems op's are going to be busy
[05:18] <fccf> ctmjr: I do my best to explain the rules ... when all else fails there's !ops
[05:19] <xnockout> Anyone can decrypt md5 ???
[05:19] <pantaloon> gandhi, ppa?
[05:19] <chadwyck> anyone using ubuntu as internet gateway with dsl?
[05:19] <fccf> !md5 | xnockout
[05:19] <gandhi> yeah, the launchpad repos that you can hook into
[05:20] <Ramady> Is there anybody here using Bandluxe 120 3G modem
[05:20] <ctmjr> fccf: yes i agree
[05:20] <gandhi> pantaloon, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[05:20]  * koolhead waves gandhi
[05:21] <gandhi> sup
[05:21] <gigglefight> k. I have the .iso
[05:21] <pantaloon> gandhi, very cool. thanks for the tip
[05:21] <Fragsworth> ctrl-alt-f1, what is this?
[05:22] <gandhi> yup
[05:22] <fccf> Ramady: they are almost all the same .... if you look in ~/.kppp there will be a configuration file ... you should be able to use that code with wvdial to setup your modem at the command line which you can run from a launcher on the gnome desktop ... if all else fails you could run kppp within gnome, should still work
[05:22] <gigglefight> please, how to create a bootable usb given this .iso
[05:22] <fccf> !usb | gigglefight
[05:23] <Fragsworth> what is this "feature" called, and what is it a part of - when I press ctrl-alt-f1
[05:23] <Fragsworth> Is it part of gnome?
[05:23] <Fragsworth> it brings up a fullscreen shell
[05:23] <soreau> Fragsworth: linux tty
[05:23] <xikteny> Fragsworth: switch to first console
[05:23] <gandhi> yeah its just a different tty
[05:23] <fccf> Fragsworth: virtual terminal .. it is the command line for linux ... ctrl-alt-f7 gets you the gui
[05:23] <Fragsworth> soreau: so it is part of the kernel?
[05:23] <xikteny> Fragsworth: yes
[05:24] <gandhi> no, its just another instance that isn't running an x server
[05:24] <Fragsworth> Is it possible for a process to "hijack" the keyboard events that let you alternate between these instances?
[05:24] <gandhi> i suppose, if something were to get root access to your machine in the first place
[05:25] <soreau> Fragsworth: Usually youre running X server which is on F7 or higher
[05:26] <mobi-sheep> !tty | Fragsworth
[05:26] <Fragsworth> Sometimes WINE crashes and I can't ctrl-alt-f1 to get a shell to kill the process or anything.
[05:26] <kraut> moin
[05:26] <soreau> Fragsworth: You can do Ctrl+Alt+F1-6 for tty shells and Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the running X session
[05:26] <Fragsworth> The whole system freezes up and I can't do anything
[05:26] <gandhi> yeah, wine is annoying that way
[05:26] <Fragsworth> Is there some other way to obtain a terminal?
[05:26] <mobi-sheep> Fragsworth: Sometimes you can ssh in.
[05:26] <gandhi> nope, if your computer totally locks up
[05:26] <soreau> Fragsworth: If wine is locking up X, its likely a graphics driver problem
[05:27] <gandhi> you can't do anything from there
[05:27] <Fragsworth> mobi-sheep: that's a great idea, thanks
[05:27] <soreau> !ssh | Fragsworth
[05:28] <Flannel> Fragsworth: you should also look into REISUB
[05:28] <Flannel> !reisub | Fragsworth
[05:28] <Gamarok__> guys what differences should i be looking for in 9.10 has anyone tried the beta
[05:28] <Flannel> Gamarok__: There is no beta yet.  But you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <gandhi> well its a new kernel and it uses ext4
[05:28] <gandhi> though if you really want a new kernel and ext4, you can install it in 9.04
[05:28] <gandhi> i just did a fresh install with ext4
[05:29] <mobi-sheep> Gamarok__: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha5
[05:29] <Ramady> Thanks but kppp and wvdial are ok but I want to use the network applet to connect
[05:29] <Gamarok__> hows ext4 workin i mean any glitches with the filesystem gandhi
[05:29] <gandhi> nope, very solid so far
[05:29] <gandhi> and quick
[05:29] <gandhi> quite fast
[05:29] <fccf> gandhi: please read the IRC Guidelines before providing help ... and don't use !enter all the time ... see I use dot dot dot
[05:30] <fccf> !enter | gandhi
[05:31] <fccf> Ramady: 3G is a whole different animal ... the network applet wasn't setup for that (yet)
[05:32] <beruchtigte> i format my hard disk to ext3 ,is there anyway i can get my data back ?
[05:32] <mobi-sheep> !recover | beruchtigte
[05:32] <afallenhope> !sephome
[05:32] <afallenhope> !home
[05:33] <Ramady> Sorry  but what is the broadband tab is for
[05:34] <fccf> Ramady: I said yet ... that is a very very new feature and isn't completly implemented for all 3g cards yet
[05:35] <Chascon> Does Chromium suffer from the same privacy issues that google chrome does?
[05:35] <Ramady> Ok then the only option is kppp or wvdial
[05:36] <mobi-sheep> Chascon: As far as I know, Chromium are not affiliated with Google Chrome.
[05:36] <igorgue> hi, I'm trying to use gnu/screen
[05:36] <fccf> Ramady: for now yes ... be thankful ... I remember when it took 10 techs to figure out a wifi connection on linux
[05:37] <igorgue> and ctrl+a bind to another thing
[05:37] <igorgue> it goes to the start of the line
[05:37] <gandhi> i remember having to use ndiswrapper, that was inconvenient
[05:37] <fccf> !enter | igorgue
[05:37] <Jorsher> haha ghandhi
[05:37] <Jorsher> my first experience with linux was ubuntu
[05:37] <Jorsher> and...horrible, ndiswrapper, linksys wifi card :/
[05:38] <gandhi> yeah, i had one of those pcmcia linksys cards, so i was using ndiswrapper also
[05:38] <Jorsher> said forget it and went back to xp
[05:38] <Jorsher> i kinda-sorta got it to work
[05:38] <Ramady>  you are right but we all like the better
[05:38] <fccf> Jorsher: please stop dogging on my fav operating system, and go play with your windows box
[05:38] <Jorsher> fccf - no
[05:38] <igorgue> hi, I'm trying to use gnu/screen, and ctrl+a is bind to another thing, it goes to the start of the line, any advice? I know how to change that key in Screen but I want to use the default
[05:39] <Jorsher> i'm telling of an experience i had
[05:39] <Jorsher> if you don't like it, tough
[05:39] <Jorsher> i have no problem with linux, but that was a horrible experience :P
[05:39] <mobi-sheep> igorgue: Unbind Ctrl + A to something else?
[05:39] <fccf> !ot | Jorsher
[05:40] <igorgue> mobi-sheep: yeah
[05:40] <Jorsher> thanks fccf - i didn't know that's why i was here
[05:40] <Jorsher> who are you anyway?
[05:40] <Jorsher> rent-an-op?
[05:40] <igorgue> mobi-sheep: how do you do that in gnome?
[05:41] <mobi-sheep> igorgue: Maybe shortcuts.
[05:41] <mobi-sheep> !shortcut | igorgue
[05:41] <fccf> Jorsher: Friendly tech that likes to keep #ubuntu friendly .. and not full of horror stories about peoples problems... I fix problems ... I am also a volunteer, I do this for fun
[05:41] <bruce_> i've got a good one to put out here. i want to setup a 320gb usb hd to multiboot livecd's. how would i do it?
[05:42] <igorgue> mobi-sheep: no that didn't work :(
[05:42] <mobi-sheep> igorgue: What is Ctrl + A binded to?
[05:42] <igorgue> mobi-sheep: well, now its working, thats weird :)
[05:42] <mobi-sheep> igorgue: Uh uh uh. :)
[05:42] <Newbie_> i'm trying to dual boot jaunty and windows 7...i have finished installation of windows 7 and i have added it to the "menu.lst" and i still cant find it at the boot menu
[05:42] <biovore> bruce_: I been thinking of messing with that as well..  Not a simple thing to do..  needs some grub magic and some knowledge of how the different installers work.
[05:42] <igorgue> mobi-sheep: probably I had it configured to another key on my screen conf
[05:43] <gilbert813> hey can anyone help me with a fresh 9.04 install?
[05:43] <xnockout> i have dial-up problem.. anyone help???
[05:43] <igorgue> mobi-sheep: ctrl+a seems to be standard, even on text only terminals it goes to the first char good to know
[05:43] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to get nvidia-glx-ia32 for ubuntu 9.04?
[05:43] <fccf> !details | xnockout
[05:43] <Jorsher> newbie - be careful, don't mention that OS
[05:44] <mobi-sheep> igorgue: You can use Home/Page Up/Page Down/End.  Useful in nano, man, etc. ;)
[05:44] <bruce_> biovore, i'm thinking of putting a couple of popular distros on like ubuntu (of course), fedora, centos, etc. how much do u know about grub?
[05:44] <Newbie_> why?
[05:44] <Wildbat> question~ is there any graphic driver needed for IGP i945?
[05:44] <Wildbat> for 9.04
[05:44] <biovore> bruce_: I have done it with the ubuntu installer..  Thats as far as I got to work.
[05:44] <fccf> Newbie_: don''t listen to him .... do you press ESC to get to the OS screen?
[05:45] <Newbie_> no
[05:45] <gilbert813> I'm trying to do a fresh install of 9.04 jaunty jackalope, and after I select install and the boot screen comes up, my monitor idles
[05:45] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: You installed Ubuntu first and Windows 7 second?
[05:45] <fccf> !intel | Wildbat
[05:45] <gilbert813> and the screen goes black
[05:45] <comrade_tuttle> Is there any kind of system restore option for ubuntu? I kinda screwed up my lib files trying to get a game to work and now i can undo what has been done.
[05:45] <Newbie_> it doesnt even give me a list...it just boots straight to jaunty
[05:45] <Newbie_> yes
[05:45] <comrade_tuttle> can't*
[05:45] <merma> Newbie_: you need to fix grub
[05:45] <bruce_> biovore: ya, i've researched all over the net to no avail. Well, if i figure it out, maybe i should post it here.
[05:45] <mobi-sheep> !grubrepair | Newbie_
[05:46] <Newbie_> my ubuntu is working fine
[05:46] <biovore> bruce_: Its probably possible.  But might need to hack up the installers a bit.
[05:46] <xnockout> my phone is nokia3586.. kubuntu 9.04.. i get the follown out put "NO carrier" . i try under "microsoft" and work..
[05:46] <merma> microsoft is better
[05:46] <fccf> xnockout: what prog are you using to connect? kppp?
[05:47] <bruce_> biovore: well, here's another idea. how about booting from an iso? any thoughts?
[05:47] <xnockout> no
[05:47] <xnockout> wvdial
[05:47] <biovore> bruce_: I don't that that will work..
[05:47] <fccf> xnockout: please pastebin your /etc/wvdial.conf
[05:47] <wizzo50> Hi, How do I go about or what do I need to have my computer setup with my TV instead of my computer monitor?
[05:47] <Newbie_> ubottu : can i please pm you
[05:48] <bruce_> biovore: that's kind of the answer i was expecting....so then why is there an iso mounter program? what's that for?
[05:48] <xnockout> fccf|done..
[05:48] <comrade_tuttle> wizzo50: does you tv have any type of VGA input?
[05:48] <fccf> xnockout: I need the link
[05:48] <biovore> bruce_: you can mount an ISO.. but you can't boot from one..  Bios dosn't know how to read files.
[05:48] <wizzo50> I'll have to look
[05:48] <Newbie_> "ubottu_": can i pm you please?
[05:48] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: ubottu is a bot.
[05:49] <gilbert813> >.>
[05:49] <IdleOne> Newbie_: it is a robot
[05:49] <merma> lolz
[05:49] <Newbie_> how about you mobi-sheep?
[05:49] <bruce_> biovore: make sense, but what then is the point of mounting one?
[05:49] <fccf> !ubottu | Newbie_
[05:49] <nephlim> hey guys
[05:49] <comrade_tuttle> hey
[05:49] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: I am not a bot.
[05:49] <merma> hehe
[05:49] <dsdeiz> i think he is
[05:49] <Newbie_> can i pm you please?
[05:50] <fccf> !pm | Newbie_
[05:50] <gilbert813> I'm trying to do a fresh install of 9.04 jaunty jackalope, and after I select install and the boot screen comes up, my monitor idles
[05:50] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: I prefer we keep it here. That way, you get more contribution and knowledges to make an informed decisions.
[05:50] <gilbert813> and the screen goes black
[05:50] <wizzo50> comrade tuttle Yes, it has an Audio input and Video Input
[05:50] <Newbie_> ok
[05:50] <nephlim> upgrading from ibex to jaunty, old hard drive to new harddrive. I want to encrypt the new drive, then just CP home and root. is there anything I should know to make this go smoothly?
[05:50] <Sir_Brizz> does anyone know how to set up some kind of temporary or network-based hosts file?
[05:50] <gilbert813> can anyone help me with this?
[05:50] <biovore> bruce_: interms of getting a installer bootstraped.. it won't help..  You will need to steel all the kernels from all the different installers in have them in a directory and have grub show a list of them.  Then the file contents of each distro could be on there own partion on the harddisk.  The trick is that the distroinstall will have to be able to figure out what parition you put it in.
[05:51] <mobi-sheep> !backup | nephlim
[05:51] <wizzo50> comrade_tuttle: Yes, it has an Audio input and Video Input
[05:51] <comrade_tuttle> wizzo50: not component but VGA like what you use to hook your monitor up to your box
[05:51] <Newbie_> my pc boots straight into jaunty and i have added windows 7 to "menu.lst"
[05:51] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: You probably want to use Ubuntu Alternative ISO to make encrypted system.
[05:51] <biovore> bruce_: basically you will need to modify the installer for each distro a bit to make it work.
[05:51] <nephlim> mobi-sheep, right, got that
[05:51] <wizzo50> comrade_tuttle: No it doesn't
[05:52] <nephlim> mobi-sheep, I was going to format, encrypt and partition the new, boot via old, and cp old to new, and install the MBR on new. that should work right?
[05:52] <bruce_> biovore: ooooh that sounds like a challenge....I think I'm up to it...Thanks for my next project.
[05:52] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: Backing up home directory should be enough.  However, if you wish to backup your /root -- Feel free to do so (in case something breaks).
[05:52] <biovore> bruce_: yeah not a simple thing to work on.
[05:52] <fccf> bruce_: here's an option ... ultimatebootdisk ... and have it point to mount and boot the 300+ iso's that are on the disk, you'd have to remaster the ubd with the instructions for ubd
[05:52] <shazbotmcnasty> I'm thinkin' about install DD-WRT on my router, but the 'supported hardware' page doesn't list my router as working or not working.
[05:52] <shazbotmcnasty> wat do?
[05:53] <mobi-sheep> shazbotmcnasty: Not the right place.  Refer to dd-wrt irc channel (if any).
[05:53] <comrade_tuttle> wizzo50: then you will need something like this http://www.amazon.com/6ft-component-video-cable-HD15/dp/B000FM3EQ0
[05:53] <shazbotmcnasty> Should I try it out? And if it doesn't work just hit the reset button on the back?
[05:53] <fccf> shazbotmcnasty: buy a WRT54GS
[05:53] <Newbie_> i'm trying to dual boot jaunty and windows 7...i have finished installation of windows 7 and i have added it to the "menu.lst" and i still cant find it at the boot menu. but my jaunty is fine
[05:53] <strongsoul> i am unable to connect my usb modem in xubuntu
[05:53] <strongsoul> help please
[05:53] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: You can't have both hard drives plugged in?
[05:53] <shazbotmcnasty> :|
[05:53] <bruce_> fccf: where would i find such an animal, ultimatebookdisk?
[05:53] <strongsoul> my modem is bsnl zte evdo card
[05:53] <fccf> bruce_: google that
[05:53] <miguelonnnn> hi everybody :)
[05:53] <bruce_> fccf: i'm on it. thx.
[05:54] <comrade_tuttle> so is there any way for me to restore my system to an earlier setting to fix my screwed up lib files?
[05:54] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: You pressed ESC at grub bootup, right?
[05:54] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: To get a list of choices.
[05:54] <comrade_tuttle> or should i just reinstall
[05:54] <nephlim> mobi-sheep, I can. I just want to take all my settings like smb.conf and what not, and all of home, and put it on a new, encrypted, bigger, drive
[05:54] <Newbie_> no
[05:54] <nephlim> i'm just tring to decide on the best way to do this
[05:54] <xikteny> nephlim: if you want to use the copied system, you will need to update the uuids in /et/fstab, I think
[05:54] <MadSeaDog> i folks i've messed with the name of the computer now i get sudo: unable to resolve host i.rock.your.world at each time i sudo...
[05:55] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: Well, try that. Because if you looked at menu.lst -- you can see that Ubuntu are the first thing (default) to be boot.
[05:55] <error404notfound> everytime i try to ssh to some machine, i get "Received disconnect from 192.168.40.143: 2: Too many authentication failures for root" though i didnt even gave the password yet, from other machines ssh works for 40.143, and 40.143 has no firewall, denyhosts, fail2ban or any such thing, its a fresh ubuntu server install with root ssh allowed
[05:55] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: Reboot.  Press ESC -- You should see the list.
[05:55] <wizzo50> comrade_tuttle: What is the 3rd jack for on it?
[05:55] <G-man> Are there any programs that i can download for xubunut that will allow me to create a virtual windows XP ?
[05:55] <k1en> hi, i have two machines behind a router, one is intrepid, one is xp. for some reason on intrepid all google related websites are very slow to load up- google.com, gmail, picasa etc. what could be the reason?
[05:55] <Newbie_> thnx
[05:55] <fccf> strongsoul: I was working on that with someone last night ... we had no luck ... I expect it is just a matter of time till some body figures the zte modems out
[05:55] <mobi-sheep> Newbie_: Before the times goes away (3...2...1).
[05:55] <Newbie_> i'll try that
[05:55] <G-man> i have a windows xp and cd ket
[05:55] <G-man> key
[05:55] <G-man> please PM me if u know of a program
[05:55] <shazbotmcnasty> Surprisingly there is a dd-wrt channel
[05:55] <shazbotmcnasty> :/
[05:56] <Sir_Brizz> G-man: VirtualBox
[05:56] <mobi-sheep> !home | nephlim
[05:56] <strongsoul> fccf, omg
[05:56] <colercoaster> Does anyone know how to disable the graphical loading image that shows during Ubuntu's boot. I actually want to see the services start up and whatnot.
[05:56] <fccf> G-man: virtualbox ... and they will help you in #vbox
[05:56] <ctmjr> !vb | G-man
[05:56] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: You should be able to install new encrypted system on new hard drive.  Later, you mount and CP the home partition to the new partition.
[05:56] <strongsoul> fccf, but ubuntu forum says just plugin and use it
[05:56] <strongsoul> modem gets detected auto
[05:56] <strongsoul> but not happening
[05:56] <nephlim> mobi-sheep, ok cool. sounds like I had the right idea
[05:56] <fccf> strongsoul: what version of ubuntu?
[05:57] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: Make sure GDM or anything else is not running.  Do it in tty.
[05:57] <nephlim> i just needed to hear it from the pros
[05:57] <ctmjr> !virtual-box | G-man
[05:57] <Ghalinger> hey this is an ubuntu unrelated question but does anyone know how i can setup a web interface like http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/ do i need some program or just hard code it ?
[05:57] <fccf> !vbox | G-man
[05:57] <nephlim> tty?
[05:57] <strongsoul> fccf, 9.04
[05:57] <mobi-sheep> !tty | nephlim
[05:57] <ctmjr> fccf: thanks
[05:58] <k1en> Ghalinger, i think just apache would do
[05:58] <fccf> strongsoul: stand by ... I have possible solution
[05:58] <afallenhope> what's the difference between primary and logical partitions?
[05:58] <Ghalinger> k1en, thankyou :-)
[05:58] <comrade_tuttle> wizzo50: component for like HD, you can use that or if you can find a VGA - A/V cable that should work too.
[05:58] <error404notfound> anyone could help with: http://pastebin.ca/1560754 ?
[05:58] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: Basically, you want to do it on tty... but if you don't know tty, use liveCD. I suppose.
[05:59] <biovore> afallenhope: a HD can only do 4 partitions.  extended partitions are sub partitions in one of the 4 primary partitions.
[05:59] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: It's a terminal.  Really.
[05:59] <strongsoul> fccf, OK
[05:59] <nephlim> mobi-sheep, oh, that's easy enough
[05:59] <fccf> strongsoul: copy text here http://paste.ubuntu.com/267718/ to /etc/wvdial.conf and run wvdial.conf and see what happens ... put your username and password in if any or erase the ###'s
[05:59] <afallenhope> biovore so should I partition everything on the logical parition (installing ubuntu)
[06:00] <arunsukesan> Is there any way to download the ubuntu documentation and the community documentation
[06:00] <biovore> afallenhope: you doing a all on 1 disk install (the OS takes up the hole disk?)
[06:00] <nephlim> thanks mobi-sheep i'll be back in a bit on the lappy whilst I try this upgrade
[06:00] <wizzo50> comrade_tuttle: Ok, thanks.
[06:00] <Sir_Brizz> does anyone know how to set up some kind of temporary or network-based hosts file? I have some hosts entries I only want on my home network on my laptop...
[06:00] <comrade_tuttle> wizzo50: no problem, best of luck!
[06:01] <biovore> Sir_Brizz: host file on linux is /etc/hosts
[06:01] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: I tend to avoid upgrade. I always do a clean install every new release. :)
[06:01] <guest1> hey guys, has any1 installed LAMP on Ubuntu?
[06:01] <fccf> strongsoul: correction run wvdial
[06:01] <guest1> ooops BRB, im gona change my sn
[06:01] <fccf> !lamp | guest1
[06:01] <arunsukesan> Is there any way to download the ubuntu documentation
[06:01] <nephlim> mobi-sheep, that must make for lots of backups
[06:01] <fccf> arunsukesan: much is already on your computer ... it is called man
[06:01] <wizzo50> comrade_tuttle: There is another plug on my video card, Sapphire HD 2400 Pro
[06:02] <Sir_Brizz> biovore, yes I was hoping there was some way to accomplish that without having to edit the hosts file every time I change networks
[06:02] <fccf> !man | arunsukesan
[06:02] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: Not really. The only thing I keep is /home and occasionally few other things. I have 2TB HDD so I'm not concerned about storages. :)
[06:02] <arunsukesan> I just wanted to browse the ubuntu community documentation offline which consists of a lot more detail
[06:03] <arunsukesan> is there any way for that
[06:03] <nephlim> mobi-sheep, what about custom .configs for samba or apache or conky?
[06:03] <fufu> whats the easiest way to install LAMP?
[06:03] <wizzo50> ComradeHaz: There is another plug on my video card, Sapphire HD 2400 Pro
[06:03] <jzacsh> (let me know if i'm asking in the wrong place) can anyone point me to an explanation of what I should do to fix this mistake I made: typed sudo /etc/init.d/xorg/restart (i believe that was the command... was a few days ago). now i don't get anything when trying to boot into this partition.
[06:03] <fccf> arunsukesan: uh .. wget http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ -R ... this would take all night and then some .. you will need alot of space
[06:04] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: I don't use conky, samba, or apache frequently.  Sometimes you can place them in your home directory... Read manuals for that.
[06:04] <fufu> can you install LAMP from the add/remove programs?
[06:04] <jzacsh> i found a forum where someone did "stop", than the person helping said "bad idea, but sounds like your issue is hardware anyways," so he didn't go on to explain what the solution to pumping out that command is
[06:04] <sd32> does anybody know of any distros that will see a external usb sound card?
[06:05] <wizzo50> ComradeHaz: Did you change your user name
[06:05] <arunsukesan> fccf: ok thanks
[06:05] <strongsoul> fccf, whats that phone parameter ?
[06:05] <strongsoul> why is it having #777 ?
[06:05] <strongsoul> fccf, ^
[06:06] <fufu> has any1 installed LAMP on Ubuntu?
[06:06] <Flannel> !lamp | fufu
[06:07] <mobi-sheep> Sir_Brizz: Use router to set up long lease time and such.  Also, you can use ~/.ssh/config to place "network-based" address so you can "ssh cloud" and it'll let you in.
[06:07] <mobi-sheep> Sir_Brizz: Manual IP works best but I doubt you'll want that. ;)
[06:07] <shazbotmcnasty> Does anyone know of a good light bittorrent client?
[06:07] <shazbotmcnasty> other than deluge
[06:08] <mobi-sheep> shazbotmcnasty: Transmission.
[06:08] <mobi-sheep> !torrent | shazbotmcnasty
[06:08] <G-man> is there a way to make all movies show up in vlc player?
[06:08] <fufu> that link for the LAMP froze my browser
[06:08] <G-man> any link i click for example
[06:08] <Sir_Brizz> mobi-sheep: ? I want to basically make it so if I type myurl.com in the browser on my local network it will go to my server's IP, elsewhere it should use an external dns serv er
[06:08] <fccf> strongsoul: it has to dial something ... #777 is for connection to 3G network data traffic on some carriers
[06:09] <fufu> how do u force an application to quit?
[06:09] <shazbotmcnasty> fufu, in terminal 'killall <nameofaplication>
[06:09] <jzacsh> fufu: ps -auNAME | grep APPNAME
[06:09] <mobi-sheep> fufu: Run "xkill" in the terminal and use mouse to click on the window (to be killed)
[06:09] <jzacsh> kill that name
[06:09] <G-man> Is there any way for me to get VLC to play all movies
[06:09] <jzacsh> number*
[06:09] <shazbotmcnasty> or any of those
[06:09] <IdleOne> G-man: set it in System > Preferences > Prefer Applications
[06:10] <shazbotmcnasty> with mine though, no < >'s or apostrophes
[06:10] <jzacsh> sir_brizz /etc/hosts/ 127.0.0.1          myurl.com
[06:10] <jzacsh> ?
[06:10] <fufu> thanks brown guys
[06:10] <Sir_Brizz> jzacsh: that works but I'd like to not have to edit the hosts file every time I change networks
[06:10] <Wiseman> because today's the day
[06:10] <G-man> hmm
[06:10] <mobi-sheep> G-man: Right-click on the movie.avi and check property. Make it default.
[06:11] <jzacsh> could you write a script (for cron) to add/modify a specific line (the last line) of /etc/hosts?
[06:11] <G-man> im on xubunut
[06:11] <G-man> where would that be
[06:11] <fufu> the xkill command doesnt work..
[06:11] <fufu> i want to close firefox browser
[06:11] <mobi-sheep> G-man: I don't know about xubuntu
[06:11] <Wiseman> fufu
[06:11] <Wiseman> sudo pkill -9 firefox
[06:11] <mobi-sheep> fufu: What are you using? xkill do work.
[06:11] <fccf> G-man: for xubuntu spacific help there is #xubuntu ... I don't know about xubuntu
[06:12] <shazbotmcnasty> killall firefox
[06:12] <Wiseman> never had pkill fail for me
[06:13] <torn>  This site uses Oracle Jinitiator: gorms.compass-usa.com However, I could not figure out how to get it working under Linux. I tried Wine and PlayOnLinux, using both FF and IE, with jinit.exe installed. They either crash or don't work. In other words, how can one get Jinitiator working on Linux?
[06:13] <jzacsh> anyone - i screwed up with:  sudo /etc/init.d/xorg/restart (or xorg.cong/restart - i cna't remember)
[06:15] <strongsoul> fccf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/268396/
[06:15] <fufu> !lamp
[06:15] <oobe> !fart
[06:16] <oobe> !cunt
[06:16] <fufu> how do u remove these things about people joining and leaving the room? in ubuntu chat?
[06:16] <oobe> ubottu said fart lol
[06:16] <rygot> great - the 10 year olds are on the computer again
[06:16] <mobi-sheep> oobe: Is that really necessary?
[06:16] <rygot> mobi-sheep of course it is. He's 10.
[06:17] <oobe> it is funny
[06:17] <jzacsh> can someone tell me where i should post such a question (as the one i did above)?
[06:17] <mobi-sheep> fufu: Depends on your client, you're able to toggle on/off. You just need to find one.
[06:17] <rygot> not really
[06:17] <fufu> how do u stop these messages about people leaving the room and joining the room?
[06:17] <fufu> im using pidgin
[06:17] <KB1JWQ> fufu: Depends upon the client.
[06:17] <KB1JWQ> fufu: Not a clue.
[06:17] <rygot> fufu it's a setting in your client
[06:17] <losher> fufu: look for something called conference mode and disable it...
[06:18] <oobe> jzacsh, you didnt ask a question you made a statement
[06:18] <Wiseman> !penis
[06:18] <Wiseman> I DISAGREE
[06:18] <oobe> lol ubottu said penis
[06:18] <bazhang> Wiseman, stop that
[06:18] <Flannel> Wiseman: Please stop that
[06:18] <Wiseman> ok ok, oobe started it
[06:18] <rygot> just kick them
[06:18] <bazhang> oobe, you too
[06:18] <rygot> save us all time
[06:18] <jzacsh> anyone tell me how to fix this - i screwed up with:  sudo /etc/init.d/xorg/restart (or xorg.cong/restart - i cna't remember). i don't know what that command even screwed up
[06:19] <oobe> jzacsh, like i said thats not really a question
[06:19] <mobi-sheep> jzacsh: Reboot the machine?
[06:19] <oobe> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart will fix it
[06:20] <jzacsh> oobe yes! that's actually the command that got me into trouble. now i boot into the partition and get nothing
[06:20] <oobe> doesnt sound like that is what caused it
[06:20] <jzacsh> i was trying to lookup ways to configure my resolution, and found a thread with a similar command in it
[06:20] <Dayofswords> sudo make me a sandwich
[06:20] <prince_jammys> jzacsh: that command just restarts X. you must have done something else before that.
[06:20] <oobe> sounds like thats the last thing you remember doing before it messed up
[06:20] <jing> hi all can anyone recommend an amazon S3 filesystem
[06:21] <KB1JWQ> jing: What're the choices?
[06:21] <oobe> jzacsh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[06:21] <jzacsh> that's what i thought. okay. thank you :)
[06:21] <Flannel> oobe: Please join #ubuntu-ops
[06:21] <oobe> sorry make that sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:21] <jing> e3fs and e3fuse-fs i think
[06:21] <oobe> that will make you a new xorg.conf
[06:22] <jing> ive never used any of them and was hoping that someone may have used an Amazon S3 fs
[06:22] <jzacsh> oobe can i do that externally? as in... w/a live CD, and specify that command^ be implimented onto the partition in trouble
[06:22] <jzacsh> ?
[06:22] <fufu> what is CTCP? and why am I receiving from people?
[06:23] <mobi-sheep> fufu: It mean the people are too noisy.
[06:23] <rygot> fufu it allows people to see your version and other information
[06:23] <_Loki> 4
[06:23] <rygot> fufu when you asked to stop the leaving messages someone must have wanted to see what IRC client you were using
[06:23] <oobe> jzacsh, you should be able to still get a console screen from your existing install
[06:23] <mobi-sheep> fufu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-To-Client_Protocol
[06:23] <fufu> yes it was u
[06:23] <fufu> haha
[06:24] <rygot> fufu yes :)
[06:24] <oobe> otherwise it may be more complicate than fixing xorg
[06:24] <jzacsh> oobe, i assume you mean chaning session type before logging in, however - after choosing my boot selection in GRUB, nothing happens - just a black screen
[06:24] <rygot> fufu your client didn't fill me with confidence
[06:24] <oobe> jzacsh, sounds like you the system isnt booting at all
[06:25] <dsdeiz> how cute. response is "Purple IRC"
[06:25] <oobe> the simplest solution would be to reinstall
[06:25] <oobe> however you can boot a live cd and try to repair it
[06:25] <strongsoul> fccf you thetre ?
[06:25] <jzacsh> oobe, okay - so what i did shouldn't be causing this kind of result? it must be something else? (because the XP partition sitting on the same drive boots fine from GRUB)
[06:26] <fufu> what? r u talking about pidgin?
[06:26] <oobe> jzacsh, yeah exactly it should be quite easy to fix if it was merely a mis configure xorg
[06:26] <Idle-Pidgin> fufu not sure if you figured it out but there is a plugin you need to enable in pidgin " Join/Part Hiding"
[06:26] <oobe> sounds like it could be somthing more serious
[06:27] <the|cheat> jzacsh: I read part of what you're saying, when you boot to graphics nothing is happening, but you can boot to a terminal for ubuntu right?
[06:27] <Jimbo> noob question, why is it that ubunto won't accept what i enter as the gateway for my LAN?
[06:27] <oobe> jzacsh, boot a live cd a see if you can chroot into you existing install please google some instructions google ubuntu livecd chroot repair
[06:27] <fufu> idle-pidgin thanks, i checked it.. i guess it works now
[06:27] <Jimbo> it just goes back to 0.0.0.0
[06:27] <jzacsh> the|cheat, no - the boot doesn't make it past GRUB
[06:28] <Idle-Pidgin> fufu if your not seing the joins and parts yes it is. if you want a more full featured irc client install xchat-common
[06:29] <the|cheat> oobe: shouldn't jzacsh he be able to try safe mode and do a xorg repaire from there?
[06:29] <rygot> Jimbo I don't know how you are configuring it, but you can see if the gateway is changed by the console command "sudo route add default gw <yourGatewayIP>"
[06:29] <jzacsh> thecheat, failsafe terminal (if that's what you mean) doesn't work, i've used it before for other situations - but this is different, i don't get anywhere past grub
[06:30] <jzacsh> oobe, I'll definitely look this up. thanks for all the help :)  cheers!
[06:30] <oobe> the|cheat, yes but his system doesnt get passed grub so xorg is the least of his problems
[06:31] <GhostWolfy> hi all, does anyone know i can get amsn to show webcams?? it shows im behind a firewall or router but i have a built-in firewall/router with my modem its a hardware type firewall/router can anyone help?
[06:31] <the|cheat> oobe: you don't think the grub.conf got changed do you?
[06:32] <rygot> GhostWolfy you will probably have to use port-forwarding on your router
[06:33] <rygot> GhostWolfy most routers will have an administration section, available on the local network. Something like 192.168.xxx.xxx
[06:33] <GhostWolfy> rygot, i don't have that on my router like i said its a hardware router its part of my modem, i have a 2wire modem
[06:33] <GhostWolfy> rygot, and i know my modem's router/firewall doesn't have a port-forwarding section
[06:34] <oobe> the|cheat, i could only guess
[06:34] <Techie> i need help getting drivers for my wireless card that uses the Marvell 8338 chipset
[06:34] <miguelonnnn> hi please, 1 question: in networkmanager there are many options for introducing wifi passwds. Two of them are passphrase and bit key. I thought passphrase was the only coded into a hard password, but bit key also gets coded( for example 12345 goes to 333758392) so what's the difference between bit-key and passphrase?
[06:34] <rygot> GhostWolfy many 2wire devices have administration sections. I've done it hundreds of times
[06:34] <rygot> GhostWolfy try http://172.16.0.1/
[06:34] <GhostWolfy> rygot, yes i know that but im saying it doesn't have a port forwarding it doesn't have it like a router you buy
[06:35] <Jerusalem420> morning guys
[06:35] <GhostWolfy> as i said i've gone through that before
[06:35] <miguelonnnn> morning
[06:35] <rygot> GhostWolfy well that is the only way it is going to work
[06:35] <rygot> GhostWolfy I guess you are out of luck
[06:35] <Shanebe> morning
[06:35] <eXapid> Someone recommend a decent mp3 player? rythmjukebox is giving me the shits :(
[06:35] <the|cheat> oobe: well he's gonna have fun
[06:35] <GhostWolfy> rygot, does ubuntu have a firewall installed or no??
[06:35] <afallenhope> to those that helped out thanks.
[06:35] <Jerusalem420> i just bought a router. TP-link. i have the quick setup guide for windblows, which doesn't help. can someone point me to a page on how to set it up? i can only find pages about using an ubuntu box as a router
[06:35] <oobe> GhostWolfy, find out your modem routers model number and see if its here http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[06:35] <afallenhope> installed fine
[06:35] <rygot> GhostWolfy type "sudo iptables -L" and post the output to a pastebin
[06:36] <Shanebe> GhostWolfy yes, by default you have ufw
[06:36] <rygot> GhostWolfy but it will be a port-forwarding issue with your router
[06:36] <GhostWolfy> oboe i know what my modem is its a 2wire modem
[06:36] <rygot> GhostWolfy the model
[06:36] <fufu> does anyone know what sudo tasksel would do? some1 told me I should run that to install LAMP
[06:36] <fufu> i have a feeling its fake
[06:36] <GhostWolfy> Shanebe, just a sec
[06:37] <GhostWolfy> and rygot let me look at that list real fast that oobe posted
[06:37] <afallenhope> !lamp > fufu
[06:37] <hari_> There seems to be a Ubuntu "MID" edition. Is there any device that actually runs that?
[06:37] <Shanebe> fufu no, its fine. its a group package installer for debian and ubuntu. sudo us to run it in root mode. google it. it be safe :)
[06:37] <fufu> ubottu those documents are outdated, meant for ubuntu 7 or below.
[06:37] <GhostWolfy> oobe, ok my modem is on that list
[06:37] <Shanebe> sudo it*
[06:37] <fufu> I am using Ubuntu 8.04
[06:38] <fufu> i mean 9.04
[06:38] <oobe> GhostWolfy, nice
[06:38] <rygot> GhostWolfy whatever. I'll tell you once again - it's a port forwarding issue with your router. Find out the model. I'll bet you have to connect to it on "http://172.16.0.1/". If you get that far, ask how to configure the port forwarding
[06:38] <oobe> GhostWolfy, should have step by step instructions with screen shots then
[06:39] <Jerusalem420> i just bought a router. TP-link. i have the quick setup guide for windblows, which doesn't help. can someone point me to a page on how to set it up? i can only find pages about using an ubuntu box as a router
[06:40] <GhostWolfy> well rygot its not even working its not even connecting
[06:40] <eXapid> Someone recommend a decent mp3 player? rythmjukebox is giving me the shits :(
[06:40] <Jerusalem420> what don't u like about it eXapid?
[06:40] <fufu> ah! in this tutorial I see, its telling me to use the Aptitude package installer, i will try it
[06:40] <fufu> !
[06:40] <oobe> Jerusalem420, you shouldnt need to do much special make sure your eth0 device is set to auto
[06:40] <Techie> is anyone able to help me with locating drivers for my wireless card, it uses the Marvell 8338 chipset and if i cant get drivers i will most likely switch said box to windows
[06:40] <rygot> GhostWolfy because you don't have a 172.16.0.0 adress on the interface
[06:40] <oobe> and you should be able to find your routers ip
[06:41] <Shanebe> fufu good stuff!
[06:41] <KB1JWQ> Techie: May I suggest windows.  Marvell has always been dicey.
[06:41] <GhostWolfy> so rygot why did you ask me to connect to it then
[06:41] <rygot> GhostWolfy sorry, I stupidly assumed you knew a little about networking
[06:41] <eXapid> im trying to pull filles off a server and its trying to import filetypes that are not mp3, its taking hours to add them to the play list
[06:41] <rygot> GhostWolfy I will know assume you know nothing
[06:41] <IdleOne> eXapid: Exaile,Listen,Banshee....search Synaptic there are tons
[06:41] <eXapid> ta idle
[06:42] <xnrad> hey all, im trying to clean up my music by removing the duplicates using rm -r *-1.mp3 - anyone know what im screwing up?
[06:42] <GhostWolfy> rygot i don't know alot about networking im even having issues getting my two computers to network each other..
[06:42] <rygot> GhostWolfy I'll bet. Ok, just for you, I'll PM you through it.
[06:42] <fufu> is "sudo su" the same thing as "root" ????
[06:42] <oobe> rygot, 172.16.0.0 is not a standard gateway ip it could be 192.168.1.1 or so on
[06:42] <rygot> GhostWolfy just write it all down, or copy and paste what I tell you. It'll come in handy
[06:42] <rygot> oobe it should be, but some of those 2wires use 172.16.0.0 - go figure
[06:42] <syntex> fufu: Yes.
[06:43] <GhostWolfy> rygot don't worry oobe gave me that link and has a step by step on the port forwarding problem which i wanna deal with first
[06:43] <Techie> KB1JWQ, is there any version of windows that you would suggest for running a server, im quite fond of XP but im not so sure on how well ti would run as a server
[06:43] <rygot> GhostWolfy the directions I give you will solve all your networking problems in total
[06:43] <Shanebe> fufu sudo <command> is do a command as if you were the root user. sudo su is using the 'su' command, which basically transforms you into another user.. usage: sudo su <username> (like root)
[06:43] <syntex> Techie: Server 2003 or 2008.
[06:43] <rygot> GhostWolfy don't aim for the "quick fix" with linux. Aim to understand what you are doing and it all becomes easier
[06:43] <GhostWolfy> rygot ok well i can't deal with the networking problem right now sorry
[06:43] <KB1JWQ> Techie: Yeah.  Anything with the word "Server" in it.
[06:44] <rygot> GhostWolfy lol you are dealing with a networking problem
[06:44] <Techie> syntex, given that the box is a 2.6ghz p4 with 512mb RAM
[06:44] <syntex> Techie: Desktop OS's don't support dhcp, dns, etc...
[06:44] <fufu> ty brown people
[06:44] <syntex> Techie: Yes. Server 2003 runs on increadibly small specs.
[06:44] <GhostWolfy> first you tell me its a port forwarding problem now you telling me its networking.. wth dude.. how is networking anything to do with me wanting to view someone's webcam on amsn??
[06:44] <Techie> syntex, i dont need a dhcp server or anything like that, it runs inside a pre defined network
[06:44] <linuxguy2009> Do I need to have samba installed on both ubuntu machines in a network to be able to see a samba sharded folder?
[06:45] <syntex> Techie: If you're connecting a lot of computers to your "server" I would actually build a server rather than using a pc.
[06:45] <KB1JWQ> Techie: ##windows is over there...
[06:45] <rygot> Techie what services do you actally want to run?
[06:45] <GhostWolfy> well i don't need to bother with the webcam issue lol
[06:45] <Techie> rygot, mainly game servers, media shares and the like
[06:45] <afallenhope> anyone know if the updates install the b43 driver + fw?
[06:45] <afallenhope> or do I have to do that manually?
[06:45] <Imaginativeone> I'm LOVING 9
[06:45] <rygot> Techie personal use?
[06:46] <Techie> rygot, yes
[06:46] <KB1JWQ> rygot, Techie: Seriously.  ##windows.  That way. :-)
[06:46] <Techie> KB1JWQ, im already in there, but i would ask them the time of day
[06:46] <rygot> Techie then XP will be fine. Plus what KB1JWQ said
[06:46] <GhostWolfy> and sorry if im being a mule rygot but if you do wanna help me with the networking you can pm me if you want to help me
[06:46] <Jerusalem420>  I just updated /etc/network/interfaces. how i do iget the changes to take effect on the system?
[06:46] <rygot> GhostWolfy hmm, let me think ...
[06:47] <KB1JWQ> Techie: I don't see you in there...
[06:47] <rygot> GhostWolfy ok then
[06:47] <GhostWolfy> rygot if you don't i understand i know i was being an ass just certain things i don't understand
[06:47] <KB1JWQ> Jerusalem420: service network restart
[06:47] <KB1JWQ> Jerusalem420: Maybe service networking restart
[06:47] <Jerusalem420> which i do how?
[06:47] <jamesbrink> this channel is boring
[06:47] <oobe> GhostWolfy, it is a networking problem solved by port forwarding incedently amsn won show up on the list of programs but you should be able to read any of them as an example as they are mostly the same amsn's port is 6891
[06:47] <Jerusalem420> james this channel rocks the casba!
[06:47] <rygot> jamesbrink yeah, it gets better when you can read
[06:48] <GhostWolfy> oobe, well i got the webcam part working without messin with the port forwarding deal
[06:48] <rygot> GhostWolfy look at your PM
[06:48] <jamesbrink> wow rygot do i actually hear crickets?
[06:48] <oobe> ok
[06:48] <rygot> !ot | jamesbrink
[06:48] <fufu> is there a way to find out the size of the file? before you install it through the terminal? thts one thing i dont like about installing via terminal..
[06:49] <MeXTuX> I wanna set up an Ubuntu based NFS server. Many of my colleagues use XP and Vista, so I don't know if they can access the shared files. Any advice??
[06:49] <IdleOne> fufu: apt-cache show package_name
[06:49] <Dyllan> How can i include 'Pre-Released updates' for ubuntu from the command line?
[06:49] <jamesbrink> !ot rygot
[06:49] <jamesbrink> lame
[06:49] <jamesbrink> lol
[06:49] <KB1JWQ> !ot | rygot
[06:50] <KB1JWQ> jamesbrink: You dropped this: |
[06:50] <rygot> !botabuse
[06:50] <IdleOne> jamesbrink: please provide ubuntu support, ask for ubuntu support or join #ubuntu-offtopic to chit chat. thank you
[06:50] <Techie> MeXTuX, set up samba shares and they will be able to access them easy
[06:51] <fufu> how can they access the files if they are in different format Techie?
[06:51] <oobe> Jerusalem420, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:51] <fufu> oh wait.. nevermind.
[06:51] <IdleOne> fufu: a .txt. is a .txt no matter what OS your using
[06:51] <fufu> oh
[06:51] <Techie> fufu, =)
[06:52] <fufu> so when does NTFS and Linux file system come into play?
[06:52] <afallenhope> if I type "swap on" and the swap is already on.. will it do anyhting
[06:52] <G-man> Is ubuntu easier to youse than xubuntu?
[06:53] <oobe> afallenhope, probably not
[06:53] <IdleOne> fufu: simply put samba lets windows and linux talk to each other
[06:53] <prince_jammys> it'll give an error :)
[06:53] <afallenhope> G-man to be honest, it's the same.
[06:53] <oobe> it will probably say swap command not found
[06:54] <G-man> then why does everybody use ubuntu?
[06:54] <prince_jammys> oobe: heh, that's what i meant.
[06:54] <rygot> G-man they don't
[06:54] <rygot> G-man it's about what Window Manager/Desktop you want
[06:54] <oobe> lol great minds prince_jammys
[06:54] <afallenhope> G-man because it's the most common. xubuntu uses xcfe ubuntu uses gnome (default) and kubuntu uses kde
[06:54] <IdleOne> G-man: xubuntu use XFCE which is a window manager it is designed to be used on lower spec machines but alot of people use it because the like the look and feel
[06:54] <prince_jammys> oobe: at least it's reliable, whether you have swap on or not.
[06:55] <oobe> yeah lol
[06:55] <afallenhope> in my opinion xcfe is more customizable
[06:55] <oobe> thats how they trained karate kid swap on swap off
[06:56] <G-man> ah
[06:57] <Jerusalem420> i'm using the GUI to edit 'wired connection 1' and my apply button is greyed out. whats up with that?
[06:57] <jamesbrink> is anyone aware of issues with geforce 250 cards on ubuntu
[06:57] <k2en> hi - is there a special channel for server problems?
[06:57] <jamesbrink> i have mine in SLI config and when i update to the newest kernel on 9.04 it hangs
[06:57] <rygot> jamesbrink no. Next!
[06:57] <IdleOne> k2en: #ubuntu-server
[06:57] <k2en> IdleOne, thanks
[06:58] <Jerusalem420> anyone?
[06:58] <jamesbrink> rygot: i was asking the people who are not assholes
[06:58] <jamesbrink> thanks anyways
[06:58] <WishingMaster> i got a serious problem techies........i have uninstalled all the drivers for graphics.........i have tried to repair the broken dpkg option in recovery mode but that is not working as it needs a eth0 connection for internet and i can only use a usb modem....so if i initialize usb modem through wvdial then i need a command to find out broken packages and then a command to repair/download them..........can anyone suggest me any steps to resolve thi
[06:58] <IdleOne> jamesbrink: please watch your language
[06:59] <rygot> jamesbrink profanity is not used in this channel. It is a family channel. Thank you.
[06:59] <Gnea> !guidelines > rygot
[06:59] <MeXTuX> installed noip2 (apt-get install noip2) and don't know whether it starts as a service or not. (my OS is Hardy Heron)
[06:59] <IdleOne> !hardy
[06:59] <rygot> !guidelines > jamesbrink
[06:59] <IdleOne> oops sorry
[07:00] <oobe> Jerusalem420 download this http://insidiousramblings.com/files/netest.sh
[07:00] <Gnea> rygot: please do not tell people "no. next!". it's equally as wrong as swearing in here.
[07:00] <IdleOne> almost as bad as RTFM
[07:00] <legend2440> Jerusalem420: when you clicked  Edit  didnt a box pop up asking for password to unlock it so you could edit?
[07:00] <k2en> i'm running hardy as a file server for about 30 clients , both XP and Ubuntu. It was running fine until a few days ago , now it takes the clients a long time to connect and browse the server
[07:00] <oobe> then paste the results in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[07:01] <nephlim> !logical
[07:01] <WishingMaster> can anyone help me here regarding graphics ?
[07:01] <afallenhope> I've installed the restricted drivers and still not wireless anyone able to help?
[07:01] <jamesbrink> Is an SLI configuration known to work on ubuntu?
[07:01] <nephlim> !primary
[07:01] <Gnea> IdleOne: I'd go so far as to say it's a step below RTFM.  it's not even trying to help, it's simple ignorance and flat-out disrespect.
[07:01] <nephlim> bollocks
[07:01] <rygot> jamesbrink oh, I'm sorry sweetie. How can I help you?
[07:01] <IdleOne> Gnea: I agree
[07:01] <nephlim> !logical parition
[07:01] <Gnea> jamesbrink: have you tried to boot it out of SLI mode?
[07:01] <WishingMaster> i have an issue with graphics driver
[07:02] <nephlim> !logical partition
[07:02] <IdleOne> nephlim: ask your question please or use /msg ubottu search-term
[07:02] <jamesbrink> Gnea: im using default drivers, but no i have not tried removing the sli connector. I really did not want to open the box back up
[07:02] <rygot> ...
[07:02] <jamesbrink> i was just curious if anyone else had similar config without issues
[07:02] <IdleOne> rygot: may I message you?
[07:03] <rygot> IdleOne no. Thank you for asking first though.
[07:03] <Gnea> jamesbrink: okay. another thing to try then would be to boot it without the 'quiet splash' options (so that you can see all the text when it does boot - maybe it will show you the error then)
[07:03] <WishingMaster> i want to know the command to find out broken packages and to repair them
[07:03] <IdleOne> rygot: sure thing :)
[07:03] <marekw2143> hi all, does somedoby here can recommend ubuntu as a web server?
[07:03] <rygot> IdleOne of course
[07:03] <leave> marekw2143, use minihttp
[07:04] <jamesbrink> oh actually Gnea it will boot, its loading xorg that causes it to hang.. im gona check the logs real quick.. but im betting they are empty
[07:04] <Gnea> jamesbrink: sounds good
[07:04] <jamesbrink> when i first updated gui failed to load so i issued Xorg -configre and moved it to ect/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <oobe> marekw2143, im sure if you ask enough people someone will i personally use it as a web server
[07:04] <marekw2143> leave: what's that?
[07:05] <leave> marekw2143, minihttpd is a mini web server
[07:05] <Gnea> jamesbrink: aaah - that would probably be why. the better way to reconfigure X in ubuntu, these days, is like this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:06] <Gnea> jamesbrink: not sure if that'll do it or not, but worth a shot
[07:06] <MadSeaDog> any way to find a file that have a certain line of text by the line of text?
[07:06] <jamesbrink> cool yeah i will try that next boot
[07:06] <jamesbrink> right now im just falling back on original kernel
[07:06] <marekw2143> oobe: do you have any comparance between others os'es?
[07:06] <jamesbrink> thanks Gnea
[07:07] <marekw2143> leave: I'll use apache
[07:07] <syntex> If I installed sidux linux onto a free partion, would I have to reinstall grub?
[07:07] <mafjus> Hey guys, Do any of you know if there is a plugin or a FileBrowser app that have a shell cmd field, so you can run certain commands directly from the browser gui ?
[07:08] <leave> marekw2143, apache is fine
[07:08] <oobe> marekw2143, no offence but your questions are quite vague what you need to do is figure out exactly what you want your server and see if you ubuntu can do it ( but the answer will be yes) as it has a very large repository of software and is highly configuable with loads of documentation
[07:09] <IdleOne> syntex: does sydux also use grub?
[07:09] <WishingMaster> hello
[07:09] <afallenhope> figured it out ty
[07:09] <wei> yes
[07:09] <afallenhope> ciao
[07:09] <WishingMaster> i have an issue with graphics
[07:09] <wei> 有？
[07:09] <syntex> IdleOne: I haven't been able to see anything about it's boot loader yet. I was hoping someone in here would know.
[07:09] <IdleOne> !cn
[07:09] <wei> you？
[07:09] <leave> marekw2143, ubuntu do it is enough
[07:09] <legend2440> MadSeaDog: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/find-files-containing-search-terms-on-ubuntu/
[07:09] <marekw2143> oobe: yep, I just want to know if it is easy to setup and it's default configuration is "secure"
[07:09] <IdleOne> syntex: try #sidux maybe
[07:09] <wei> WHO  ARE  YOU？
[07:10] <syntex> IdleOne: There's only one person in there idle.
[07:10] <oobe> yes it is easy to setup and yes it is secure by default
[07:10] <bin1010> wasnt there a way to get firefox to report that it was IE, I can't find that option in this new version....maybe I had an addon?  Help?
[07:10] <IdleOne> syntex: they must have a forum or a wiki
[07:10] <Vinceman> how can you get a cam working in pidgin? they say it's possible to use a cam in MSN!
[07:10] <syntex> IdleOne: I found out, thanks for the help though.
[07:10] <oobe> marekw2143, there is a server edition cd maybe you should give that a go
[07:10] <wei> SPEAKING   CHINESE
[07:11] <prince_jammys> !cn | wei
[07:11] <nephlim> what do you chaps think the best encryption for an encrypted partion is? aes, blowfish, serpent, or twofish?
[07:11] <prince_jammys> wei: if that's what you wanted. maybe not.
[07:11] <wei> HELP
[07:11] <IdleOne> wei: help with what?
[07:12] <wei> TOTEM
[07:12] <mostafa_> do anyone know where jockey save the downloaded files?
[07:12] <IdleOne> wei: more information please
[07:12] <wangjian2012> ubuntu
[07:12] <pythagoras> hi there wats up all
[07:12] <mobi-sheep> bin1010: Agent User Switcher?
[07:13] <pythagoras> anyone know how to fix audio in Ubantu
[07:13] <marekw2143> oobe: i'll see, but generally what is "ubuntu" when talking about web server? in my opinion is package manager and package repository, and some libraries to connect to network. Does it differ in any other aspects from other distributions when talking about web server?
[07:13] <wei> WHAT  TO  DO  TOTEM
[07:13] <IdleOne> !sound | pythagoras
[07:13] <IdleOne> wei: /join #ubuntu-cn for help
[07:13] <pythagoras> yes sound
[07:13] <bin1010> mobi-sheep: you rock...thanks.  I couldn't remember it.  LOL
[07:13] <oobe> marekw2143, no not really
[07:13] <mostafa_> do anyone know where jockey save the downloaded files?
[07:14] <vadviktor> nephlim: my personal favourite is sha, but I might be outdated
[07:14] <wangjian2012> mldonkey电驴如何安装
[07:14] <IdleOne> ~/.jockey maybe
[07:14] <MadSeaDog> legend2440, thanks but it doesn't output anything... i have an error when sudoing... sudo: unable to resolve host tested.computer.name
[07:14] <wei> 好难呀
[07:14] <mostafa_> IdleOne: let me check
[07:14] <nephlim> vadviktor, this for an install of a new system. first time doin disk encryption
[07:14] <leave> wangjian2012, sudo apt-get install mldonkey
[07:14] <nephlim> those 4 are my only options :/
[07:14] <oobe> marekw2143, the main diffence in all distros is how fast you can get apache sql and php running using there package management and defautl config's
[07:14] <legend2440> MadSeaDog: can i pm?
[07:15] <MadSeaDog> i though grep -n -i 'tested.computer.name' i would find the config file that still use it...
[07:15] <mostafa_> IdleOne: there is no such folder there
[07:15] <MadSeaDog> legend2440,  go ahead...
[07:15] <oobe> marekw2143, but the end result is much the same
[07:16] <vadviktor> honestly, there is no unbreakable encryption as of today on the public market, so sha is my choice for encrypting
[07:16] <vadviktor> it really depends on the complexity and length of the password
[07:16] <leave> marekw2143, for company  ubuntu-server will be better
[07:16] <mobi-sheep> vavar: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/02/sha1_broken.html ?
[07:16] <mobi-sheep> vadviktor: ^^
[07:16] <marekw2143> leave: why do you think so?
[07:17] <IdleOne> mostafa_: I don't know
[07:17] <vadviktor> and feel free to correct my please as I am no expert on this matter
[07:17] <nephlim> aes is pretty good right?
[07:17] <mostafa_> IdleOne: thnx 4 your response
[07:17] <mostafa_> do anyone know where jockey save the downloaded files?
[07:17] <vadviktor> yep, i use it for files
[07:17] <mobi-sheep> mostafa_: Jockey does not download packages.
[07:18] <leave> ubuntu-server always run 3 or 4 even more month
[07:18] <vadviktor> my ssh keys are encrypted on a backup drive with it :)
[07:18] <mostafa_> mobi-sheep: then how it can install my VGA?
[07:18] <leave> marekw2143, ubuntu-server always run 3 or 4 even more month,and PC don't
[07:18] <nephlim> do you guys encrypt swap also?
[07:19] <marekw2143> oobe: did you do a lot of configuration for the network and security of the system?
[07:19] <vadviktor> nephlim: no need
[07:19] <nephlim> vadviktor, ok
[07:19] <nephlim> thanks
[07:19] <vadviktor> np :)
[07:19] <nephlim> but def root... and home, of course
[07:20] <mostafa_> mobi-sheep: r u there?
[07:20] <vadviktor> encrypt on those partitions that contain sensitive data as encryption slows down system performance
[07:20] <ikonia> nephlim: why encypt root ?
[07:20] <mostafa_> do anyone know where jockey save the downloaded files?
[07:20]  * nephlim is doing an encrypted drive for the first time
[07:20] <prince_jammys> mostafa_: see if you have man pages for it (like jockey-gtk), and at the bottom see if there's a FILES section.
[07:20] <mobi-sheep> mostafa_: Yes. I do not understand your question.
[07:20] <mobi-sheep> !info jockey-common | mostafa_
[07:20] <nephlim> no need then, ikonia
[07:20] <nephlim> ?
[07:21] <ikonia> nephlim: you tell me ? why would you encrypt root
[07:21] <nephlim> i'm not sure, im not a power user
[07:21] <ikonia> nephlim: then don't encrypt anything
[07:21] <rygot> could a chinese speaker tell wei to join #ubuntu-cn please
[07:21] <mobi-sheep> ikonia: I think he was referring to what to back up.
[07:21] <ikonia> mobi-sheep: he seems pretty sure encyption is what he's wanting
[07:22] <mobi-sheep> Yup.
[07:22] <ob1> .
[07:22] <nephlim> yeah, i wanted encryption. just making sure i'm doing it right
[07:22] <nephlim> didin't want to shoot myself in the foot
[07:22] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: There are (automated) guided encryption option, I believe.
[07:23] <ikonia> nephlim: if you have no need, don't encypt anything
[07:23] <ikonia> nephlim: most users will not have a need
[07:23] <NeroGoth> Hello just have a quick question if someone can help (yes I am a noob)
[07:23] <nephlim> ikonia, i do have a need
[07:23] <marekw2143> what is a difference between ubuntu server and "normal" ubuntu? Only preinstalled packages ?
[07:24] <nephlim> NeroGoth, just ask
[07:24] <ikonia> nephlim: what is your need ?
[07:25] <ikonia> marekw2143: the server installation is also optimised for enterprise class hardware, if you are running on home PC kit, the desktop option would be a better option
[07:25] <nephlim> i need to justify my need for security?
[07:25] <NeroGoth> I can Create or Make  a Link of a file or such, how do I edit that link? Or better yet see where it is linked to so I know where the file actually exist. For example my link to FoxFire, but where is the bin and so forth, easiest solution, look at where the launching link goes, but hwo do I do that?
[07:25] <ikonia> nephlim: well yes as it's clear your not confident with what you're doing, it may help
[07:25] <marekw2143> ikonia: what does it mean that it's optimized?
[07:26] <ikonia> marekw2143: certain kernel options are enabled,
[07:26] <nephlim> ikonia, the ability to drive does not negate the need or desire, does it?
[07:26] <ikonia> nephlim: if you could explain your need we may be able to better guide you
[07:26] <nephlim> i just want security and I've never done and ENTIRE disk encryption
[07:26] <marekw2143> can enable them when compiling kernel in desktop distro too?
[07:26] <ikonia> nephlim: ok - do it then
[07:27] <NeroGoth> FYI From GUI please
[07:27] <Gelegrodan> nephlim: try truecrypt or cryptsetup
[07:27] <mobi-sheep> marekw2143: http://tinyurl.com/nqdwur
[07:27] <ikonia> marekw2143: you can but if you're kernel compiling you're pretty much defeating the object of pre-packaged distros
[07:27] <nephlim> i don't mean to be sassy or anything, i'm just green with this kind of operation
[07:27] <nephlim> Gelegrodan, aye, great program
[07:27] <ikonia> nephlim: yes, it's not a beginners topic really
[07:27] <prince_jammys> NeroGoth: i don't remember if the links made by gnome are actual symlinks or .desktop files. if they are the latter, you can open them with a text editor and look at them.
[07:28] <ttestt> hello
[07:28] <mobi-sheep> nephlim: Use guided encryption system.  It'll set up everything for you.  It's your first time. Let it deal with it so you can see how it is... and if you're satisfied with it.  It does the job. Simple as that.
[07:28] <marekw2143> mobi-sheep: thx
[07:28] <mobi-sheep> marekw2143: Welcome.
[07:28] <wei> hello
[07:29] <ttestt> who can help? I need to get an idle time (like screensaver do), using console
[07:29] <marekw2143> ikonia: yes, you're right. I'm just considering ubuntu server ,but i'm worried about freshness of it's packages
[07:29] <wei> I  can ...
[07:29] <mobi-sheep> wei: 点击我（ #ubuntu-cn ）来得到中方的支持
[07:30] <mostafa_> prince_jammys: I check for jockey manual but there is no manual there
[07:30] <prince_jammys> yes, i looked myself.
[07:31] <icecubetray> exit
[07:32] <ttestt> wei: you know how i can do it?
[07:32] <marekw2143> does ubuntu server have stable packages?
[07:32] <Gnea> marekw2143: yes.
[07:32] <prince_jammys> i'd expect them to be 'stabler' than the desktop ones.
[07:33] <Gnea> prince_jammys: why?
[07:33] <marekw2143> Gnea: thx ;]
[07:33] <gandhi_> aren't the server releases all LTS releases?
[07:33] <prince_jammys> just an assumption, since it's the server edition.
[07:33] <Flannel> gandhi_: no
[07:33] <gandhi_> oh ok, my bad
[07:34] <Gnea> prince_jammys: have you ever looked at the sources.list file of the desktop and server editions side-by-side?
[07:34] <prince_jammys> never
[07:34] <Flannel> prince_jammys: the repositories are the same from the desktop edition
[07:34] <Gnea> prince_jammys: they're identical.
[07:34] <prince_jammys> so much for my assumption.
[07:34] <Gnea> :)
[07:34] <prince_jammys> i figured the server ones would be like debian stable ones and desktop like testing.
[07:35] <prince_jammys> but i guess i just made that up.
[07:35] <Flannel> prince_jammys: No, if you want stable you stick to LTS
[07:35] <Zachk18> what up!
[07:35] <Gnea> prince_jammys: anything that's officially 'Ubuntu", like 'Xubuntu', 'Kubuntu' and so on - they all use the same repositories, thus, all the same packages.
[07:35] <Zachk18> so...what's goin on?
[07:36] <prince_jammys> Gnea: gotcha. I knew that part, but thought 'server' was something different from what it is.
[07:36] <Gnea> prince_jammys: try installing the same 9.04 release of various releases of Ubuntu, get them updated, then install the same package on each (say, apache2) then run an md5sum on each .deb file - guaranteed it's going to be the same on all.
[07:37] <Gnea> prince_jammys: nope, it's just setup differently, without a GUI and a different installer.
[07:37] <prince_jammys> i steer clear of 9.04 ;)
[07:37]  * Zachk18 is away: I am presently otherwise engaged.
[07:37] <Gnea> prince_jammys: whatever floats your boat
[07:37] <Gnea> !away | Zachk18
[07:37] <prince_jammys> it definitely floats my video card's boat
[07:38] <Gnea> I like how 9.04 is, overall, faster.
[07:38]  * Zachk18 is back (gone 00:00:53)
[07:38]  * Zachk18 is away: I'm not available.
[07:38] <prince_jammys> welcome back!
[07:38] <Gnea> Zachk18: please turn that off.
[07:38] <mobi-sheep> !away > Zachk18
[07:38] <fufu> how do i open a folder in GUI as root?
[07:38] <prince_jammys> gksudo nautilus
[07:38] <Gnea> fufu: gksudo nautilus
[07:39] <umut> Does anyone know how to go advanced mode in cairo-dock configuration?
[07:39] <Zachk18> mobi-sheep how do i do that
[07:39] <marekw2143> Flannel: "if you want stable you need LTS": does it mean that on ubuntu 9.04 server there aren't stable packages?
[07:39] <Gnea> Zachk18: they can help you in #xchat
[07:39] <mobi-sheep> Zachk18: Don't use script (if you're using it).  Use /away <message> instead.
[07:39] <Gnea> !LTS | marekw2143
[07:40] <Flannel> marekw2143: No, they're stable enough.  But they're newer versions.  Older versions are, as a general rule, more stable.
[07:40]  * Zachk18 is away: <i'm gone>
[07:40] <Gnea> marekw2143: just because it's not LTS doesn't mean it's not stable.
[07:40] <umut> Does anyone know how to go advanced mode in cairo-dock configuration?
[07:40] <marekw2143> Gnea, ubottu, Flannel: thx  :)
[07:40]  * Zachk18 is back (gone 00:00:52)
[07:41] <mobi-sheep> marekw2143: Think Xbox360.  In RROD in first 3 years than the latter versions of Xbox360.
[07:41] <Flannel> Zachk18: Please turn that off, thanks
[07:41] <mobi-sheep> More, not in.
[07:41] <Gnea> Zachk18: please leave. fix it, then come back.
[07:41] <WishingMaster> does any one know is this a valid command apt-get --fix-broken
[07:42] <prince_jammys> looks like it.
[07:42] <prince_jammys> same as apt-get -f
[07:42] <pradeep> i accidently removed network mangaer from my panel.i am not able to view which wireless networks are available.how to add it to panel again
[07:42] <marekw2143> mobi-sheep: i don't have xbox, what was the problem?
[07:42] <mobi-sheep> pradeep: Right-click on the panel.  Add it again.
[07:43] <pradeep> mobi-sheep:add it from where
[07:43] <Gnea> WishingMaster: if i type this:  man apt-get  and search for --fix-broken, it tells me it's the same as -f
[07:43] <WishingMaster> Gnea,ok
[07:43] <Solar_Flare> Is somewhere out there in the multiverse a good stable and working ftp server?
[07:43] <mobi-sheep> marekw2143: Bad case design.  Overheating and not enough air flows. The latter Xbox360 were a bit differently for better flowings and less CPU.  More fans.
[07:44] <mobi-sheep> pradeep: From the panels. Gnome-panel.  The bottom/top panels.
[07:44] <Gnea> Solar_Flare: proftpd, vsftpd
[07:44] <Solar_Flare> Gnea: pure-ftpd wasn't really working. dont know why. thx
[07:44] <Gnea> Solar_Flare: cheers
[07:44] <mobi-sheep> marekw2143: Same thing for iPhone.  Basically, wait until second or third generation before you buy them. ;)
[07:44] <pradeep> mobi-sheep: i know that network notification is not available in the list
[07:44] <bod> Hi, I have a slight problem, When I was in windows a minute ago (dual boot) I muted the sound, now back in ubuntu, the sound shows as unmuted but I don't hear anything. How can I unmute the sound without having to boot back into windows?
[07:44] <Flannel> Solar_Flare: What are you intending to use it for?  actual ftp? or would sftp work just as well?
[07:45] <marekw2143> mobi-sheep: ;]
[07:45] <Gnea> bod: use the mixer
[07:45] <Solar_Flare> Flannel: It should be a "real" server. Best with SSL.
[07:45] <Solar_Flare> or SSH.
[07:45] <bod> Gnea: all devices are shown as nun muted and full volume
[07:45] <marekw2143> mobi-sheep: so generally ubuntu 9.04 server is better than ubuntu 8.04 server LTS?
[07:45] <Gnea> bod: Master controls the whole thing, but PCM controls regular sounds and music
[07:45] <Flannel> Solar_Flare: Since, sftp is easier to set up, and you gain encryption
[07:45] <WishingMaster> is there a way to restore in ubuntu like system restore in xp?
[07:46] <Gnea> bod: is pulseaudio or alsa the preferred output in System->Preferences->Sound?
[07:46] <indus> WishingMaster: no
[07:46] <indus> WishingMaster: but there is a recovery console which might help
[07:46] <mobi-sheep> marekw2143: No. It shouldn't matter because you won't see GUI.  You won't actively use them -- However, as for servers, you can use either.  Should be okay with either too.
[07:46] <indus> WishingMaster: like a windows safe mode
[07:46] <Solar_Flare> Flannel: it should just serve files on a silver plate and prevent users from f. with my system.
[07:46] <Flannel> Solar_Flare: to install sftp (which is over ssh, ftps is over ssl) just install openssh-server, and voila.
[07:46] <bod> Gnea: what program does that run? I am not using gnome
[07:46] <Solar_Flare> nothing fancy with magic or something ¹^^
[07:46] <WishingMaster> indus,i can log into recovery mode
[07:46] <Gnea> bod: what are you using?
[07:47] <indus> WishingMaster: and?
[07:47] <pradeep> anyone help me fixing my gnome panel
[07:47] <bod> Gnea: blackbox
[07:47] <netyire> can you backup all of your drivers on ubuntu?
[07:47] <marekw2143> how about packages in 8.04 server LTS -  can it use packages from repository of 9.04?
[07:47] <pradeep> can it be restored to the default panel
[07:47] <prince_jammys> bod: if you use alsa, 'alsamixer'
[07:47] <WishingMaster> indus, i can activate mu sub modem with wvdial
[07:47] <indus> pradeep: why what did u do
[07:47] <Gnea> bod: awesome! :)  type this in a terminal:  gnome-sound-properties
[07:47] <bod> prince_jammys: all sliders are full, still no sound
[07:47] <indus> WishingMaster: whats a sub modem?
[07:47] <Flannel> mezzovento: No.  You shouldn't mix repository versions
[07:48] <WishingMaster> indus,i am sorry for that its a usb modem
[07:48] <pradeep> indus: i accidentally removed network notification, my battery info display etc from the panel
[07:48] <netyire> specifically, can I back up a wireless driver? I had to compile it from source with lots of patches to get it working and I don't want/think-I-can-remember how to get it working again if I need to in 9.10
[07:48] <indus> WishingMaster: aah use network manager for this, go to mobile broadband option and do it
[07:48] <bod> Gnea: sorry, bare with me, have to install gnome-control-center to get that program
[07:48] <Gnea> marekw2143: better to use ppa software
[07:48] <Gnea> !ppa | marekw2143
[07:48] <WishingMaster> indus,i told you that i can log into a non-gui session only
[07:49] <Gnea> bod: ok
[07:49] <indus> WishingMaster: ok sorry missed it
[07:49] <WishingMaster> indus,i dont have graphics driver installed on my sys
[07:49] <Gnea> marekw2143: usually ppa handles backports to LTS for newer software
[07:49] <indus> WishingMaster: hmm then how could you use wvdial? its cli based?
[07:49] <pradeep> indus:??
[07:49] <WishingMaster> indus,i just type wvdial
[07:49] <prince_jammys> bod: what i do (maybe this is old) is asoundconf list  to see the card names, then asoundconf set-default-card CARDNAME.  if that doesn't work you can try sudo alsa force-reload
[07:50] <WishingMaster> indus,it works fine
[07:50] <Solar_Flare> i guess seamless mode from virtual ubuntu to actual ubuntu doesnt work too well -.- *sigh*
[07:50] <indus> pradeep: the network applet is a system process and you have to enable it in system>preferences>asessions
[07:50] <WishingMaster> indus,i want to know how to get promt after i initialize the modem through wvdial
[07:51] <indus> WishingMaster: what prompt?
[07:51] <WishingMaster> indus, line where i can type a command
[07:51] <indus> WishingMaster: hmm you said you type wvdial in recovery console?
[07:52]  * Zachk18 is away: I'm not available.
[07:52] <shantal> need help with logitech z-5 USB speakers.
[07:52] <WishingMaster> indus,yes
[07:52] <pradeep> indus: there is no session in preferences section
[07:52] <indus> pradeep: there is, search again
[07:53] <indus> WishingMaster: then what happens
[07:53] <gnubie> pradeep; startup aplications
[07:53] <shantal> need help with logitech z-5 USB speakers? anyone?
[07:53] <indus> aah sorry iam on hardy
[07:53] <indus> ya startup applications
[07:53] <bod> prince_jammys: neither worked I am afraid
[07:53] <WishingMaster> indus,the modem gets initialize
[07:53] <indus> gnubie: thanks
[07:53] <indus> WishingMaster: then?
[07:53] <prince_jammys> bod: that's the extent of my knowledge on the matter :)
[07:54] <WishingMaster> indus,but there is no command prompt for next command input
[07:54] <bod> prince_jammys: ok, cheers dude
[07:54]  * Zachk18 is back (gone 00:00:37)
[07:54] <prince_jammys> welcome
[07:54] <Gnea> bod: has sound ever worked?
[07:54] <Gnea> !guidelines > Zachk18
[07:54] <shantal> Yes on the first boot
[07:54] <fufu> has anyone installed PHPmyadmin on ubuntu?
[07:54] <indus> WishingMaster: maybe open another console? like ctl alt f3 or something, although iam not sure thats what u want
[07:54] <shantal> even works with remote
[07:54] <Gnea> !anyone | fufu
[07:55] <WishingMaster> indus,if i press ctrl+z then them modem is stopped and i get a command prompt
[07:55] <indus> WishingMaster: you mean the wvdial does not show u some text window?
[07:55] <WishingMaster> indus,nope
[07:55] <WishingMaster> indus,i need a command to open another console wndow
[07:55] <indus> WishingMaster: but did u configure wvdial after it runs?
[07:56] <fufu> i used the aptitude package installer to install PHPmyadmin, it seemed like it installed, but I dont see it on my system. also if I go to http://localhost/phpmyadmin it should show up automatically but it doesnt.. does any1 know why? can it have something to do with the ports?
[07:56] <indus> WishingMaster: did u do all the login pasasword etc?
[07:56] <WishingMaster> indus,is there a shortcut for opening another console window in recovery mode.......cli mode only
[07:57]  * Zachk18 is away: Away
[07:57] <indus> fufu: did u check in menu>applications>system tools?
[07:57] <terry> what is the room for php .....
[07:57] <indus> WishingMaster: clt-alt f3
[07:57] <Flannel> terry: ##php
[07:57] <WishingMaster> indus,all wvdial settings have been done in the past,it works like a charm
[07:57] <terry> thank
[07:57] <terry> s
[07:57] <WishingMaster> ineiros,
[07:57] <WishingMaster> indus,i will try that shortcut
[07:58] <indus> WishingMaster: you can open as many consoles are you wish upto 6 by default i think or maybe 9
[07:58] <Gnea> !pm | shantal
[07:58] <WishingMaster> ineiros,kool
[07:58] <indus> WishingMaster: alt-ctl-f2 to f6
[07:58] <WishingMaster> indus,sorry
[07:58] <indus> WishingMaster: alt-ctl-f7 gives u graphical session
[07:59] <indus> WishingMaster: sorry ? for what?
[07:59] <WishingMaster> indus,hmmm
[07:59] <marekw2143> "/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432.lock" - what is a reason of that?
[07:59] <bod> Gnea: gnome-ck
[07:59] <WishingMaster> indus,nevermind
[07:59] <marekw2143> when I run postgres, then the error above occurs
[07:59] <bod> Gnea: sorry, gnome-sound-properties installed
[07:59] <Gnea> fufu: check in /etc/phpmyadmin/ and /etc/apache2/conf.d/
[07:59] <indus> WishingMaster: was my answer good enough? is that what you were looking for?
[07:59] <rygot> marekw2143 the lock file wasn't deleted. Try deleting that file and try again
[07:59] <fufu> indus i dont understand, what do you mean menu>applications>system tools? where do I go for that menu?
[08:00] <WishingMaster> indus,yes
[08:00] <WishingMaster> indus,i will contact you later
[08:00] <WishingMaster> indus,bye for now
[08:00] <Gnea> bod: ok, now run it and see what's being used
[08:00] <indus> fufu: nvm
[08:00] <marekw2143> rygot: but directory /var/run/postgres doesn't exist
[08:00] <indus> WishingMaster: bye
[08:00] <bod> Gnea: HDA Intel Alsa Mixer
[08:00] <Gnea> bod: run the tests.
[08:00] <Tritaris> hmm now this is odd, for some reason i can not connect to www.python.org with firefox. i can ping and traceroute it just fine, my windows machine can connect, any ideas?
[08:00] <marekw2143> I've chmoded /var and /var/run to 777, and still didn't work
[08:01] <rygot> marekw2143 don't do that.
[08:01] <bod> Gnea: all run fine, but no sound
[08:01] <Taroven> Hmm. Anyone able to help a bit with a fglrx driver issue?
[08:01] <rygot> marekw2143 the error is telling you there is a lock file. The lock file is created when a program is run. It seems it was not deleted. You've looked in /var/run manually?
[08:01] <Zachk18> marekw2143: do you use firebird?
[08:01] <Gnea> bod: heh, if they were fine, there'd be sound ;)  has sound EVER worked for you on this system?
[08:01] <duc> I don't know how to creat a shortcut in xubuntu
[08:02] <marekw2143> rygot: yes, and in /var/run there's no postgres directory
[08:02] <marekw2143> Zachk18: no, postgres
[08:02] <bod> Gnea: It works usually yes. It will work first time if I reboot to windows and un-mute the sound from there, but why do I have to do this in windows?
[08:02] <Zachk18> marekw2143: ok nevermind then
[08:02] <rygot> marekw2143 how about when you do --> find / -name "*PGSQL.5432.lock*"
[08:03] <Gnea> bod: I do not know. Perhaps it requires a more specific selection at module load-time. is this a laptop?
[08:03] <bod> Gnea: yes
[08:03] <Gnea> bod: make and model # please?
[08:03] <bod> Gnea: Toshiba Portege
[08:03] <miguelonnnn> hi, please do you know any way to install mac4lin themes from repositories?
[08:04] <Gnea> bod: what's the model #? should be on the sticker on the bottom..
[08:04] <fufu> gnea i have the /etc/phpmyadmin folder. is there something specific i should be looking for?
[08:05] <hackoo> hello friends I have an old laptop HP compaq nc 6000 , I have installed ubuntu, everything is working except touchpad? I am seeking help.
[08:05] <bod> Gnea: PPR50E-00L048EN
[08:05] <bod> Gnea: its a portege R500
[08:05] <Gnea> fufu: should be a link in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ to the phpmyadmin
[08:05] <Guest50252> anyone know a good firewall for ubuntu?
[08:06] <bod> Guest50252: UFW
[08:06] <hackoo> how to check whether my touchpad is fine or not, it may be that this is dead, but how to determine ?
[08:06] <Wildbat> ll
[08:06] <Wildbat> oops
[08:06] <bod> hackoo: does it work?
[08:06] <Wildbat> sorry
[08:06] <storbeck> Guest50252: iptables
[08:06] <fufu> the instructions that i followed to install phpmyadmin, was "aptitude phpmyadmin" seemed like it installed it, and they told me to check by going to "http://localhost/phpmyadmin" but i get  a 404 not found page
[08:06] <marekw2143> rygot: nothing found
[08:06] <hackoo> bod: no its not working, I am using mouse ?
[08:06] <fufu> sorry i meant "aptitude install phpmyadmin"
[08:07] <hackoo> bod: how to determine that its not a hardware fault ?
[08:07] <storbeck> check lspci or dmesg
[08:07] <ttols> How can I solve error(-EOVERFLOW) on my USB device driver?
[08:07] <fufu> gnea there are only 2 files in the conf.d folder, charset and security
[08:08] <shantal> need help with logitech z-5 USB speakers? anyone? works on first boot, however fails to be detected after a few boots..
[08:09] <miguelonnnn> please  1 question, i want to install one package from repositories. It's not in apt-get just in svn or raw install. I preffer svn because of dependencies, but may be conflicts with apt and svn?
[08:10] <Gnea> fufu: run this:  sudo ln -s /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf && sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart   then try to access it
[08:10] <rygot> marekw2143 are you on or connecting through a network?
[08:10] <rygot> marekw2143 i mean, is the postgresql installation local?
[08:10] <marekw2143> rygot: yep, local
[08:11] <Gnea> hackoo: cat /dev/input/mice   and try to use the mouse - if you see garbage show on the screen, it works
[08:12] <marekw2143> rygot: There is unix_socket_directory option in postgres.conf in database's directory, which when changed to proper directory works fine.
[08:12] <Newbie_> i want to copy a file to .../boot/grub but i cant. need help please
[08:12] <DrRobino> Hello. How do i add a network printer?
[08:12] <rygot> marekw2143 well I don't know what to tell you. The file probably has to exist somewhere ...
[08:13] <fufu> gnea it works THANKS!!!
[08:13] <Guest50252> rygot r u and marekw from stockholm?
[08:13] <storbeck> Newbie_: '...' is not a valid directory
[08:13] <Gnea> fufu: cheers
[08:13] <Newbie_> i dont understand
[08:13] <rygot> Guest50252 why no, no we aren't
[08:13] <drygrain> I don't know my own root password! Ubuntu never asked me to set one when I installed!
[08:13] <hackoo> Gnea: yes mouse is working fine, but myt problem is not in mouse, I am seeking help for the touchpad, it not working, how to check its not defected?
[08:13] <drygrain> I can't su!
[08:13] <marekw2143> rygot: I think it's ubuntu's specific problem. I've installed postgres via apt-get on ubuntu 8.10. On other ubuntu machine (8.10 too), when postgres was installed from sources, there werent any problems like that
[08:14] <Newbie_> but i am in the grub folder right now. its just that i cant copy anything into it
[08:14] <storbeck> You said you want to copy a file to ".../boot/grub", well, "..." is not a valid directory.
[08:14] <nephlim> i can't copy one partition to another: "has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super and large_file. use tine2fs or debugfs to remove features"
[08:14] <nephlim> what does that mean?
[08:14] <storbeck> Are you using sudo?
[08:14] <Gnea> bod: check this guide out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> please  1 question, i want to install one package from repositories. It's not in apt-get just in svn or raw install. I preffer svn because of dependencies, but may be conflicts with apt and svn?
[08:14] <drygrain> yes
[08:14] <fufu> drygrain your root password is the same password you use for login
[08:14] <drygrain> sudo will work
[08:14] <rygot> marekw2143 sorry, I don't know where else to go. Maybe slap your computer
[08:14] <drygrain> but i want to login as root
[08:14] <Tritaris> anyone else having trouble connecting to python.org?
[08:14] <Gnea> hackoo: the touchpad *IS* the mouse.
[08:14] <drygrain> it says authentication failure
[08:14] <storbeck> drygrain: sudo -i
[08:15] <fufu> try "sudo su"
[08:15] <fufu> drygrain
[08:15] <drygrain> lol
[08:15]  * Gnea prefers sudo -i
[08:15] <drygrain> sudo -i worked
[08:15] <storbeck> You can also do "sudo passwd" to update the root password, then you can just "su" as normal.
[08:16] <Guest50252> sudo -i will access your root
[08:16] <Gnea> !sudo
[08:16] <Gnea> storbeck: we do not encourage such behavior here, please.
[08:16] <storbeck> What behavior?
[08:16] <Gnea> storbeck: what you just suggested.
[08:16] <billybigrigger> !iso
[08:16] <storbeck> Huh?
[08:16] <Newbie_> how do i get permission to enter file system?
[08:17] <Gnea> storbeck: what part of "please don't say that again in here" is not understood?
[08:17] <Zachk18> Newbie_: go to your file system...how else
[08:17] <drygrain> How do I give TrueCrypt permission to create a directory?
[08:17] <storbeck> I don't understand what you don't want me to say.
[08:17] <Gnea> storbeck: 02:19 < storbeck> You can also do "sudo passwd" to update the root password, then you can just "su" as normal.
[08:17] <Newbie_> but i cant copy anything into it. its saying i dont have permission
[08:17] <Gnea> !sudo | storbeck
[08:17] <Zachk18> Gnea: give storbeck a break...
[08:17] <nephlim> !debugfs
[08:17] <Gnea> Zachk18: pardon?
[08:18] <Zachk18> take it easy Gnea
[08:18] <Gnea> Zachk18: I am taking it easy. did you fix your away problem?
[08:18] <amortvigil> hello i mounted an usb to rs232 converter with an software key attached. but i get errors while mounting wich declare the key is not a block deveice, what can i do?
[08:18] <barata> hi, how to run an app at the background?
[08:18] <barata> bg?
[08:18] <Guest50252> this server is located in sweden right?
[08:18] <prince_jammys> barata: progname &
[08:18] <barata> thanks prince_jammys
[08:18] <barata> so embarrasing I can forget that
[08:19] <spade> Good Morning,
[08:19] <spade> I like to use the latest version of freemind (freemind.sf.net) which is Release Candidate 4 for FreeMind 0.9.0. Synaptics only offers 0.8.1 which is missing important features I like to use. I got the tarball which I downloaded and untared to ~/Downloads/freemind. In the documentation it says: double click freemind.jar in the lib/ folder of the folder in which FreeMind has been installed....
[08:19] <spade> ...There is no freemind.jar in that lib/ folder, which I suppose means, it isn't properly installed. I found one occurrence of that file in ~/Downloads/bin/dist/lib which seems a wired location to me. After changing the permissions I was able to start the program and also create a panel icon for it. Which was what I wanted to get help for from you guys. I figured it out my self, while...
[08:19] <Newbie_> zachk18 : i cant copy anything into it. its asking for permission
[08:19] <FloodBot1> spade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <spade> ...writing this post. I love IRC. Thanks for being there for me.
[08:19] <Hitman32> Hi guys
[08:20] <rot> where are you trying to copy something Newbie?
[08:20] <Gnea> spade: .jar files aren't meant to be made executable, you have to use java to use them
[08:20] <storbeck> Newbie_: Use 'sudo'
[08:20] <Gnea> !java | spade
[08:20] <Newbie_> storbeck : how please?
[08:21] <storbeck> Newbie_: sudo cp ~/yourfile .
[08:21] <kaveh> guys i have this awkward problem ill type it all up
[08:21] <Newbie_> rot : from a cd to filesystem/boot/grub
[08:21] <spade> Oops, sorry and thanks for the replies. I'll see what I can do with it.
[08:21] <WishingMaster> indus,i am back
[08:22] <prince_jammys> barata: bg does work if you ctrl-z a foreground process to stop it, and then 'bg'.
[08:22] <Zachk18> Gnea: hows this....
[08:22] <indus> WishingMaster: good
[08:22]  * Zachk18 is back (gone 00:25:20)
[08:22] <WishingMaster> indus,i cannot run this command apt-get --fix-broken
[08:22] <prince_jammys> wow.
[08:22] <Gnea> Zachk18: it tells me that you haven't listened to my advice, nor got it fixed.
[08:22] <WishingMaster> indus,it says it is an invalid commnad
[08:23] <Hitman32> I have file *.bundle   how to install it,  it's VMware program
[08:23] <Hitman32> help here<<<<
[08:23] <kaveh> holy crap dw i just tried umount again and it worked
[08:23] <fufu> when I stream from youtube, my video does not work, but audio works. How can I get video?
[08:24] <Zachk18> Gnea: what do i do then
[08:24] <syahed> hello
[08:24] <Zachk18> Gnea: cause i don't know how to fix it
[08:24] <Gnea> Zachk18: /join #xchat and ask them how to turn the away message thingy off.
[08:24] <syahed> im newbie
[08:24] <Zachk18> ok
[08:24] <fufu> !flash
[08:24] <Hitman32> me too
[08:24] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: looks fine. sudo apt-get --fix-broken
[08:24] <syahed> i really like ubuntu now
[08:24] <Hitman32> help
[08:24] <syahed> but i have a little knowledge about it
[08:24] <Hitman32> I have file *.bundle   how to install it,  it's VMware program
[08:24] <syahed> hope u guys can help me out ok
[08:24] <WishingMaster> prince_jammys,i am log in as root
[08:25] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: what error message do you get?
[08:25] <Guest304> install ultamatix
[08:25] <Hitman32> ?
[08:25] <Guest304> it installs lots of things
[08:25] <Hitman32> me
[08:25] <Guest304> sure
[08:25] <Guest304> u
[08:25] <Hitman32> ultamatix??
[08:25] <Guest304> yeah
[08:25] <prince_jammys> !automatix
[08:25] <WishingMaster> prince_jammys, command is not valid after --fix
[08:25] <Guest304> not automatix
[08:26] <Hitman32> apt-get install ultamatix ?
[08:26] <Hitman32> like this
[08:26] <prince_jammys> there's something called ultamatix now?
[08:26] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: that's the exact error message?
[08:26] <Guest304> ultamatix is the automatix update
[08:26] <prince_jammys> WishingMaster: apt-get -f
[08:26] <WishingMaster> i will get back to you with exact msg
[08:26] <WishingMaster> bye
[08:27] <prince_jammys> bye
[08:27] <Hitman32> i need to install bundle file
[08:27] <prince_jammys> Hitman32: there are no instructions from where you got the file?
[08:27] <gOLDfeesh> !nvidia
[08:28] <Hitman32> VMware
[08:28] <Guest304> what bundle file?
[08:28] <storbeck> Hitman32: sudo ./vmware.bundle
[08:28] <Hitman32> www.VMware.com
[08:28] <wizz> i've been check my network software n it's there, but it can do nothing. i can't connect to any wireless. can somebody help me?
[08:28] <ejv> how can I tunnel wget over ssh? so it looks like a request is coming from another location? i've tried fiddling with .wgetrc, but nothing so far...
[08:28] <Guest304> sudo -y apt-get <file>
[08:29] <fufu> okay I learnt that you have 3 options of flash to install from, I installed the wrong one, how do I uninstall that flash?
[08:29] <Zachk18> fufu: synaptic package manager
[08:29] <Guest304> sudo -y apt-get install vmare
[08:29] <Hitman32> ./ work   ,, thankx
[08:30] <gOLDfeesh> product: C51 [Geforce 6150 Go] anyone know where i can get the binary driver for that ?
[08:30] <storbeck> fufu: sudo apt-get remove file
[08:30] <Gnea> fufu: find out which one you have installed:  dpkg -l | grep ^ii | grep flash
[08:30] <Zachk18> gnea: got it fixed
[08:30] <wizz> i have a a problem with my wlan. it can't connect to any wireless....
[08:30] <Gnea> Zachk18: good job
[08:30] <wizz> HELP!
[08:30] <Zachk18> wizz: what's the prob?
[08:30] <TheShahFactor> How do I convert .PCM file to a .WAV audio file in Ubuntu?
[08:31] <gOLDfeesh> !mp3
[08:31] <anahel> WinAmp not running
[08:31] <wizz> my laptop can't connect to any wireless even it has wlan software, Zachk18
[08:31] <storbeck> TheShahFactor: Have you looked at Audacity?
[08:31] <wizz> !wireless
[08:32] <Guest304> how can i packet sniff a remote computer off a wan if i know the router ip?
[08:32] <wizz> Zachk18
[08:32] <wizz> please, HELP!
[08:32] <storbeck> Guest304: /join ##security
[08:33] <gOLDfeesh> Guest304, check ##security
[08:33] <gOLDfeesh> lol nice storbeck '
[08:33] <storbeck> :)
[08:33] <Guest304> i wanna packet sniff my girlfriends computer at her house if i get her router ip is there anyway i can do it from my house accross the internet?
[08:33] <TheShahFactor> storbeck : i tried opening the file in audacity but it doesnt give the output correctly..or so I think..
[08:34] <Newbie_> please i need to copy a folder from a cd into File System. but it is telling me i don't have permission. what do i do? please
[08:34] <Hitman32> yo hacker
[08:34] <Guest304> if i hack into her lan? or router?
[08:34] <fufu> gnea when i typed in your cmd to get name of program i got this "ii  flashplugin-installer                      10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1           Adobe Flash Player plugin installer" what would the name of version be?
[08:34] <fufu>  i typed sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-installer , the terminal said 180kb will be freed after i uninstall it... so what
[08:35] <fufu> so thats not the complete uninstall?
[08:35] <ejv> !offtopic > Guest304
[08:35] <prince_jammys> Guest304: wrong channel.
[08:35] <Hitman32> other qustion
[08:35] <Hitman32> it's for newbie
[08:36] <Solar_Flare> cu guys.
[08:36] <Hitman32> how to access to root ?
[08:36] <Flannel> Hitman32: Prefix your command with sudo
[08:36] <Flannel> !sudo | Hitman32
[08:36] <maco> !root | Hitman32
[08:36] <storbeck> TheShahFactor: Check out sox, then do something like: sox -t raw -b 16 -e signed-integer -r 44100 -B -c2 file.pcm outfile.wav
[08:36] <Hitman32> sudo su ?
[08:37] <Newbie_> so nobody can help me?
[08:37] <Hitman32> what you need
[08:37] <Hitman32> ?
[08:37] <Gnea> fufu: the version is 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1, and yes, that's the complete uninstall. after that, just install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:37] <Hitman32> newbie_: what's you problem?
[08:38] <Gnea> Newbie_: sudo cp /media/cdrom/yourfile /boot/grub/
[08:38] <Newbie_> so no 1 here has a solution?
[08:38] <Gnea> Newbie_: dude, stop that.
[08:38] <Hitman32> gnea have one
[08:38] <Newbie_> ok
[08:38] <Newbie_> sry please
[08:39] <Newbie_> didnt see that
[08:39] <Hitman32> sudo cp ..
[08:39] <Newbie_> i'm sorry
[08:39] <Hitman32> :D it's Okay
[08:39] <Gnea> Newbie_: just try it, it's cool
[08:39] <Hitman32> gnea:
[08:40] <Hitman32> Is there away to access to root in graphics mode
[08:40] <Gnea> Hitman32: gksudo nautilus
[08:41] <Hitman32> gksudo nautilus?
[08:41] <Hitman32> in trminal
[08:41] <Hitman32> ?
[08:41] <Hitman32> BrB
[08:42] <TheShahFactor> storbeck : didnt work ; just found out that sox doesnt support PCM
[08:42] <storbeck> Can you upload it somewhere?
[08:42] <TheShahFactor> aah where
[08:43] <storbeck> try 2shared.com
[08:43] <Newbie_> Gnea : i copied the folder from the cd to my desktop. how do i copy it into File System/boot/grub?
[08:44] <TheShahFactor> storbeck http://jump.fm/QQSRD
[08:45] <goddard> i had a report on my ubuntu server
[08:45] <goddard> checking corrupt not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables
[08:45] <goddard> what does this mean?
[08:47] <storbeck> it worked for me
[08:47] <adub> what are some good open source web applications
[08:48] <storbeck> sox -t raw -b 16 -e signed-integer -r 44100 -B -c2 test_samantha.pcm outfile.wav
[08:48] <pagix> Morning
[08:49] <TheShahFactor> crap why did it not work for me? Failed reading `XX.pcm': unknown file type `pcm'
[08:49] <indus> adub: web applications to do what
[08:49] <storbeck> weird
[08:49] <storbeck> I'll  upload it for you
[08:49] <adub> indus hell i dont know anything im just open to ideas
[08:50] <storbeck> http://jump.fm/HDANI
[08:50] <adub> currently im running zoneminder, twiki, and base on my apache server
[08:50] <adub> was just wondering if there was anything else cool out there
[08:50] <indus> adub: whats zoneminder
[08:50] <pradeep> wat does nmap command do
[08:51] <storbeck> man nmap
[08:51] <pradeep> ?
[08:51] <adub> indus its tight www.zoneminder.com
[08:51] <Newbie_> please i need help copying a folder from my desktop to File System/boot/grub. each time i try, it says i don't have permission. what do i do please?
[08:51] <pradeep> anyone there
[08:51] <adub> indus its video surveillance software I have network IP cameras setup at home
[08:52] <adub> and I can log into them remotely from anywhere in the world through a web browser
[08:52] <indus> adub: cool ,
[08:52] <adub> ya
[08:52] <adub> im just fishing for anymore coolness that I could setup on my home network
[08:53] <adub> I use twiki b/c i use it at work and base just b/c i like using snort and i can check to see if anyone is hackin my crap
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> adub: fileserver with backup?
[08:53] <storbeck> I'd setup Big Brother
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> adub: remote torrent server using http?
[08:53] <adub> like a web file server
[08:53] <adub> ahh all good ideas
[08:53] <adub> :)
[08:53] <bib1> how can I install deb packages locally without root password?
[08:53] <pagix> adub, how about a online compiler?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> adub: just a file share of some sort to dump files in, the backup can then copy the files to backup
[08:54] <Gnea> Newbie_: sudo cp ~/thefile /boot/grub/
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> adub: folding@home
[08:54] <Hitman32> Hi,, i feel my computer very slow
[08:54] <adub> ActionParsnip I love that idea
[08:54] <pagix> Hitman32, poor u
[08:54] <storbeck> Setup an IRC logger with a searching function so people don't ask the same question over and over.
[08:54] <adub> A file server to be able to send and recieve files
[08:54] <Gnea> !guidelines | pagix
[08:54] <Hitman32> i need to  stop effects
[08:54] <adub> with a browse and upload option or something
[08:55] <Gnea> Hitman32: system->preferences->display  then hit the far-right tab and turn them off
[08:55] <adub> is there anything out there that does that
[08:55] <Hitman32> make it normal
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: can you pastebin the output of: top -n 1
[08:55] <adub> where i can upload files to the server and download
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> adub: configure a cifs/samba/sshfs share
[08:55] <Gnea> !samba | adub
[08:55] <Hitman32> wait
[08:56] <adub> no i mean remotely
[08:56] <Techie> one thing i always find handy is a SSL encrypted CGI proxy
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> adub: sure, you can configure it all with ssh
[08:56] <adub> like you know you go to the websites and you want to upload files there will be a browse button
[08:56] <adub> right but i would want everything done through port 80
[08:56] <Gnea> adub: just set it up using using tikiwiki
[08:56] <adub> like be able to go on to my webpage
[08:56] <adub> twiki?
[08:56] <Gnea> adub: yeah
[08:57] <adub> is there  a plugin
[08:57] <Gnea> you'll have to read the documentation for it to find out
[08:57] <Gnea> I would imagine that it has that capability
[08:57] <Gnea> if it's a real CMS, that is
[08:57]  * Gnea is off now
[08:58] <Hitman32> ActionParsnip: i install VMware to make 'VM'   for that i need my computer to 'work fast' :P
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: as long as top doesnt show your system labouring its fine
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you may need to restrict the resources the VM can use
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: if your pc sucks then VMs are going to cripple it good
[08:59] <Hitman32> I'm arabic,, take it easy with me
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: doesnt matter where you are from
[09:00] <Hitman32> i mean your language
[09:00] <Hitman32> make it sample
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: if your computer is old and slow then VMs will make it run even slower
[09:00] <torocatala> hey, i have a problem whit the input audio
[09:01] <Hitman32> no it's okay,, but i need to work it VM
[09:01] <storbeck> If computer bad, VM make it more bad.
[09:01] <Hitman32> work in**
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> storbeck: bit patronising, but yes ;)
[09:01] <Hitman32>  i understand
[09:02] <Hitman32> :D
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> torocatala: ask your question and the channel will reply if it can
[09:03] <Hitman32> so,, i need to display effects to make my pc better
[09:03] <Hitman32> how can i display effects
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> effects will make it slower
[09:03] <storbeck> rofl
[09:03] <Hitman32> display it :@
[09:04] <Hitman32> stoped it >> how
[09:04] <storbeck> disable
[09:04] <Zachk18> Hitman32: extra affects will slow down your system alot
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you need to install video drivers, this will make the desktop run smoother
[09:04] <Hitman32> yes disable
[09:04] <storbeck> Hitman32: metacity --replace &
[09:05] <Hitman32> my VGA is sis771
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: is this in the host system of guest?
[09:05] <Hitman32>  metacity --replace & damn what's that do?
[09:05] <storbeck> It replaced your desktop effects (compiz) with metacity.
[09:05] <Hitman32> what you mean?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: the host is the OS on your system, the guest is the VM. I thought you worked in VMs?
[09:06] <Hitman32> here is the output   [1] 24558
[09:06] <Andorin> Hmm... I have a partition set aside on my hard drive for backing up my files. However, I don't seem to be able to delete anything from it. If I delete something it goes to the partition's trash, and deleting the files from there does nothing because they don't move. How can I remove them permanently? I imagine that there's an Ubuntu program that will do it.
[09:06] <Hitman32> No
[09:06] <Hitman32> i don't
[09:07] <Hitman32> I have Ubuntu right now
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok, so your pc has a sis graphics chip
[09:07] <Hitman32> yeah :((
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> ok run: gksudo gedit /etc/11/xorg.conf
[09:07] <Jerusalem420> so, i booted to windblows (boohoo) and was able to config my new router no problem. when I connect my ubuntu box through the router to the net, it doesn't work
[09:07] <Jerusalem420> i've configed a wired conncection
[09:07] <Jerusalem420> but its not being used.
[09:08] <Jerusalem420> any suggestions?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: then you will see: Section "Device" Identifier "Configured Video Device"
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: under that add:   Driver "sis"
[09:08] <Hitman32> stop   nothing display
[09:08] <Hansard> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate channel to ask for support for this particular issue, it's just that I use ubuntu. My issue is trying to install a ndiswrapper wireless driver for my Belkin 54g wireless pci card (Broadcom chip) BCM4306 Rev3. Using the ndiswrapper utility it says "Unable to see if hardware is present". Some pages from google suggested I install pciutils and I...
[09:08] <Hansard> ...did and it didn't help.
[09:08] <Hitman32> only empty file
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: can you provide a pastebin of the output of: ifconfig
[09:08] <Hansard> hmmm this used to beep when I got to the end of a line
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: did you type the command EXACTLY?
[09:09] <Jerusalem420> sure. where do ya'll pastebin around here?
[09:09] <Hitman32> copy past
[09:09] <storbeck> Why are you installing ndiswrapper?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: linux is case sensitive, thats why i put a capital X
[09:09] <storbeck> Doesn't Ubuntu use udev?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: are you using kde?
[09:09] <Hansard> storbeck: because the standard wireless drivers aren't working so I have to wrap the windows ones. Or so I've been lead to believe.
[09:09] <Hitman32> no gMOM
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok
[09:09] <pinoyskull> what replaces automatix?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:10] <Jerusalem420> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268443/ ActionParsnip
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: copy that, press alt+f2, paste the command into the box
[09:10] <Hitman32> Ok
[09:10] <Hitman32> then
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: eth0 has no config
[09:11] <Hitman32> it's open :))  then what?
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> meaning what?
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> oh yeah
[09:11] <storbeck> Jerusalem420: Try "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: its failing dhcp
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> cause i erased it.
[09:11] <Jerusalem420> let me show you
[09:11] <pinoyskull> what replaces automatix?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you will see   Section "Device"    Identifier "Configured Video Device"
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: yes?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !info automatix
[09:12] <Hansard> I've also tried blacklisting bcm43xx, ssb, b43, b43-pci-bridge etc. But I think it keeps loading b43-pci-bridge and not the ndiswrapper driver even though it is blacklisted.
[09:12] <Hitman32> yep
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: under that line add another line that reads:    Driver "sis"
[09:12] <torocatala> Look, I'm testing VoIP on my lan, (Skype, TeamSpeak), i hear the other persons, and they hear me, but my audio arrive some seconds later after y talk
[09:13] <Hitman32> No
[09:13] <storbeck> pinoyskull: ultramatix
[09:13] <torocatala> anyone know why?
[09:13] <Hitman32> take look
[09:13] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:13] <Hitman32> you see it!!
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: use pastebin in future please
[09:13] <torocatala> i need to go
[09:13] <torocatala> we talk later
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: like I said, add the line
[09:13] <Jerusalem420> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268446/ is the /etc/network/interfaces that i tried to use
[09:14] <Jerusalem420> but it didn't work.
[09:14] <banyanhe> i think you should check the delay
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> pinoyskull: theres tweakubuntu I think its called.
[09:14] <banyanhe> more than 30ms will be bad
[09:14] <Jerusalem420> so i recommented out the config for eth0 and left dsl-provider working (which is how I'm online
[09:14] <pinoyskull> thanks storbeck and ActionParsnip
[09:14] <Hitman32> what you want from me,, add line??
[09:14] <storbeck> Jerusalem420: Did you try "ifconfig wlan0 up"?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: the first line of eth0 is bad
[09:15] <Jerusalem420> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: iface eth0 inet static
[09:15] <Jerusalem420> whats wrong with it
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: your network and IP dont match either
[09:15] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:16] <naftilos76> hi everyone, which download manager do you propose for ubuntu?
[09:16] <Hitman32> ..........
[09:16] <Jerusalem420> the network should be what?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: you defined your network as 192.168.0.0 when your iIP and gateway are in the network 192.168.0.1
[09:16] <blue-frog> torocatala: certainly something to do with your bandwith (internet)
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: add the line where I told you
[09:16] <Hitman32> what line
[09:16] <Hitman32> ?
[09:16] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:16] <Hitman32> what i write
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: if your IP is to be 192.168.1.150 then the network is 192.168.1.0
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: and the broadcast will be 192.168.1.255
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: 3rd time now....   Driver "sis"
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: in the "Configured Video Device" section
[09:17] <Jerusalem420> ok action i've made the updates.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: ok save the file and run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:18] <Hitman32> like this
[09:18] <Jerusalem420> how i do get ubuntu to load them w/o rebooting? and also, should I comment out the dsl-provider bit?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok check the PM, this is getting really old now
[09:18] <glickity> excuse me, im running ubuntu on a netbook, why does every window open up maximized and how can i change that
[09:18] <Jerusalem420> thanks Action
[09:18] <glickity> its very annoying
[09:18] <glickity> does anyone know where i can change that preference
[09:18] <Hitman32> sample language please !!
[09:20] <ankur9118> hello everyone...
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420: watch your subnets or it wont work
[09:20] <blue-frog> glickity: because the screen is very small then maximised is the best choice; no I don't know how to chnage that. use normal edition of ubuntu
[09:20] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[09:20] <glickity> there must be some preference where you can change that though
[09:21] <ankur9118> i am receiving the error , invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm, action "reload" failed...
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/268451/
[09:22] <Hitman32> Ok
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: see how only 1 line is different, add that
[09:22]  * storbeck sighs with ActionParsnip 
[09:22] <Hansard> Can anyone help me with the ndiswrapper or Belkin wireless pci card driver problem? If you can please say so and I'll patiently wait until you're available to talk.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> storbeck: its hard somedays
[09:22] <storbeck> agreed
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: can you provide the output (in a pastebin) of: sudo lshw -C network
[09:23] <Hitman32> Ok then ??
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> !paste > Hansard
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: save all work and reboot
[09:23] <Hitman32> Ok
[09:23] <Hitman32> bye
[09:23] <Andorin> Hmm... I have a partition set aside on my hard drive for backing up my files. However, I don't seem to be able to delete anything from it. If I delete something it goes to the partition's trash, and deleting the files from there does nothing because they don't move. How can I remove them permanently? I imagine that there's an Ubuntu program that will do it.
[09:24] <Hansard> I'll have to type it out because I'm typing on my laptop (wireless working) and my desktop has no internet at the moment
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: oh ok, all e need is the product line
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> s/e/we
[09:25] <storbeck> Hansard: Did you have internet working on the livecd?
[09:25] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Hansard
[09:25] <Hansard> storbeck: I never checked. I did a fresh install to a newly created ext4 partition
[09:26] <storbeck> You probably just need to modprobe the correct driver, ifconfig it, configure it with iwconfig, then dhcpcd it
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: you can use the fwcutter etc to get drivers for broadcom things
[09:27] <Hansard> storbeck: I modprobed the ndiswrapper windows driver, ifconfig didn't work it said it couldn't set it.
[09:27] <ankur9118> I am unable to start ubuntu in graphichs mode...somebody help to figure out the problem...
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: no need for ndiswrapper
[09:28] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: I'll try those instructions, thank you, then I'll come back to the channel.
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: make sure you remove ndiswrapper first
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: have you tried booting to recovery mode and using the fix graphics option
[09:28] <ankur9118> its taking me to "ubuntu is running in low graphichs mode" and then it hangs...
[09:29] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: just sudo rmmod ndiswrapper, correct?
[09:29] <lyhana8> hi, I got some issue with a usb disk
[09:29] <storbeck> That's because you installed the wrong graphics driver, ankur9118
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: sure
[09:29] <lyhana8> here is what I got for : lsusb, dmesg and fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/d27dd47fd
[09:30] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: thank you. :)
[09:30] <lyhana8> I want to mount the Western Digital disk
[09:30] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: yes i have tried its working in single user mode n networking mode...
[09:30] <krauser_> http://pecl.php.net/package/ssh2 is there a way to apt-get install this package ?
[09:30] <naftilos76> Download manager for Ubuntu 9.04???
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: ok boot to recovery root console and run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:30] <storbeck> I use wget as a download manager.
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: is it a 250Gb usb disk?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> naftilos76: gwget is ok
[09:31] <ankur9118> i have done that ....its giving the following error
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> naftilos76: there are many
[09:31] <ankur9118>  invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm, action "reload" failed...
[09:31] <storbeck> Wrong driver.
[09:31] <naftilos76>  gwget is probably the one i'm looking for - thnks
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> i just use the one in opera, works nice
[09:32] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: yep, why ?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: just checking, ok can you provide the output of: mount
[09:33] <Branko> hello all
[09:33] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: if i forcefully start gdm then it hangs...
[09:33] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I've 2 usb disk of 250Gb : a WB and another
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Branko
[09:33] <Branko> i have some problems with new karmic release, who can help please?
[09:33] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/d257de96a
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: thats fine, can you provide the mount output in a pastebin please
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> cool
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | Branko
[09:34] <Branko> ok, thanks!
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: ok its mounted on /media/disk
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[09:34] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: that's my other one
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: your fdisk output only shows a 100Gb for system (I assume internal) and a 250Gb with 1 partition
[09:35] <ankur9118> any help regarding this...
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: ok, unplug the device, wait 10 seconds, plug it back in, wait 10 seconds, run: dmesg | tail
[09:36] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I told you I have 2 disk of 250Gb, mine is working. The Western Digital is the one of my gf, and is the one i'm looking for
[09:36] <Branko> thanks ubottu
[09:36] <Jerusalem420_> progress, at least now my ubuntu box sees the router. and the router is connecting to my ISP, but i still can't connect to the net via the router.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: boot to recovery root console and run: dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:37] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: did you see the output of dmesg in the first link ? http://pastebin.com/d27dd47fd
[09:37] <storbeck> Jerusalem420_: Try: sudo ifup eth0
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: i know, i want the kernel to react to the removal and adding of the device
[09:37] <Branko> it appears that no one is active on #ubuntu+1...
[09:37] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: it gives same message = invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm, action "reload" failed...
[09:38] <Jerusalem420_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268460/
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-97527.html
[09:38] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: here http://pastebin.com/d1978946e
[09:38] <Jerusalem420_> eth0 isn't up at the moment cause i'm using my old /etc/networks/interfaces settings
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: you need to add some name servers in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: then access your routers web config page, check the WAN config, you will see DNS server IPs.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: in the resolv.conf file add:
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: nameserver <ip>
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: for each DNS listed
[09:39] <storbeck> I've always used search as well.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: then save the file, close gedit and restart networking
[09:41] <ankur9118> ActonParsnip: the problem is identical but its not working..."force-reload" also failed...
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Jerusalem420_: as you are not using dhcp, you would normally get given your dns adresses for name resolution. You have disabled this so need to add them manually
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> ankur9118: seems to be a frequent thing. Try some websearches for the output you are getting
[09:43] <ankur9118> ActionParsnip: thats what i was doing from last day they all say " dpkg-reconfigure **" but its not working...
[09:43] <kevin__> hello
[09:44] <rygot> It feels so empty when you spend an hour helping someone via PM, they say they are going to reboot and you never hear from them again :(
[09:44] <rygot> I .... I feel used
[09:44] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: so any idea ?
[09:44] <adub> what is the package for moddav webdav  ??
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: you could add their UUIDs in /etc/fstab
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: then they will mount to different places
[09:46] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: how do I get the UUID of a disk ?
[09:46] <bodee> Äîáðûé äåíü , ìîæåò ëè êòî òî ïîäñêàçàòü âîçìîæíî ëè ïîñòðîèòü èç äàííîé ÎÑ ïîëíîöåííóþ ñèñòåìó , à òî÷íåå Ðîóòåð íà áàçå ÐÐÐîå , âåá ñåðâåð , ôòï ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: sudo blkid
[09:46] <lyhana8> bodee: ?
[09:46] <bodee> ru
[09:50] <Qu4R0w> im waiting for Sept,29
[09:50] <torocatala> i'm back
[09:50] <rygot> torocatala we missed you
[09:51] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: got no output, like the command block on something
[09:51] <torocatala> Look, I'm testing VoIP on my lan, (Skype, TeamSpeak), i hear the other persons, and they hear me, but my audio arrive some seconds later after y talk
[09:51] <torocatala> and it's not the bandwhit because in the other computer works fine
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !uuid | lyhana8
[09:52] <ravn2> hey guys, I have a problem with usb mice - dmesg says "vmap allocation failed: use vmalloc=<size> to increase size" ... "generic-usb: probe of 0003:045E:007D.0005 failed with error -12" Google doesn't help, anyone??
[09:53] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I run it as root, isn't supposed to be instantaneous ?
[09:54] <torocatala> hi?
[09:54] <willthisdoat42> hi toro
[09:54] <Qu4R0w> how can i get offset/voffset??what tool need to measure & get it value
[09:55] <torocatala> no one can help me whit my problem? any idea? i only found a thread whit no responses on google
[09:55] <Qu4R0w> torocatala: what ur problem?
[09:55] <torocatala> Look, I'm testing VoIP on my lan, (Skype, TeamSpeak), i hear the other persons, and they hear me, but my audio arrive some seconds later after y talk
[09:55] <torocatala> and it's not the bandwhit because in the other computer works fine
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: yes its instant, use sudo with it. you never need root
[09:57] <glickity> are there any glade users in here by any remote chance?
[09:57] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I got nothing. I know root is evil :P
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: good lad
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[09:57] <chalcedny> i have a black screen with a - in the top left corner .. what is that a part of and how do i get out of it?
[09:58] <chalcedny> (((( ActionParsnip  )))))
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedny
[09:58] <chalcedny> its ubuntu 8.04 long term
[09:58] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I'm running a jaunty with kde4.3.1
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: yes its an LTS release
[09:58] <Qu4R0w> torocatala: i not know about that topic..sorry
[09:58] <chalcedny> ActionParsnip,  the - means something?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> !lts | chalcedny
[09:59] <chalcedny> ActionParsnip, yes .. i do sort of know that.. why the black screen with the - in the top left corner?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> lyhana8: do you get any output at all?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: bad video driver maybe
[10:00] <lyhana8> from blkid nop ActionParsnip
[10:00] <EXTACYs> hey guys john the ripper doesn't work
[10:00] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: the instructions said I had to move those to packages to /lib and I used sudo cp and I think they might be write protected or something now because the sudo b43-fwcutter command gave the error "Cannot open input file wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o". It's been a while since I've used linux, I can't remember what chmod level I need to do etc.
[10:00] <marceloa> Hi
[10:00] <marceloa> question
[10:00] <jim_p> hi people. How can i check if an installation is on 32 or 64 bits?
[10:00] <lyhana8> ActionParsnip: I don't find the disk in /dev/sd* which is strange cause lsusb and dmesg caught it
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: tried with sudo?
[10:00] <jim_p> uname -r is not very helpful
[10:01] <chalcedny> ActionParsnip,  im trying to get it to boot from a sata card with an adaptor .. it's just not working
[10:01] <Qu4R0w> i want to configure my conky and want use offset/voffset..how can i get the pixel to locate conky??
[10:01] <Sidewinder1> !ask | marceloa>
[10:01] <EXTACYs> jim_p u didn't check in the downloading page ?
[10:01] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: exactly as the website says "sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o"
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> chalcedny: maybe the sata card isnt configured and needs messing with
[10:01] <jim_p> EXTACYs: its not MY installation
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: what is the output of:  ls -al /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[10:02] <Qu4R0w> MY=Malaysia??
[10:02] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: I think when I sudo cp the files from my usb drive to /lib/ that they might have the wrong permissions now (in the file browser gui they have a little orange circle with an X in it up the top right hand corner.
[10:02] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: Cannot open input file wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: sudo with supercede any permissions
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: there you go, the file doesnt exist
[10:02] <EspadaV8_W> hi, are there any RSS feeds for package updates to the latest LTS release?
[10:03] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: hmmm?
[10:03] <n8tuser> Hansard-> you seemed to be missing a /  it should be /lib/firmware/wl...
[10:03] <EspadaV8_W> ideally along with details of what's changed with the update
[10:03] <EXTACYs> jim_p then uname -a works  if x86 = 32bit and if  x64 = 64bit
[10:04] <jim_p> in lsb_release -a i also get "No LSB modules are available." :S
[10:04] <Hansard> n8tuser: oh
[10:04] <jim_p> EXTACYs: thanks, give me a sec
[10:04] <Hansard> n8tuser: thanks, someone should correct that on the help.ubuntu.com site as well
[10:05] <hernad> hi, i have problem on karmic with firefox - some letters are cut, already reported here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1240785
[10:05] <hq> hello all
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | hernad
[10:06] <hernad> thank you didn't know for this channel
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> hernad: thats not a bug report
[10:06] <hq> i know this has probably been discussed in the past, but I need help in connecting my BT Logitech Media Pro keyboard on my PS3 to Xubuntu 9.04, can anyone help
[10:07] <hq> cls
[10:07] <hernad> ActionParsnip: ok I will report to launchpad
[10:07] <EXTACYs> so .. .  no one uses john the ripper . ..
[10:08] <frogzoo> any ideas how to get a ZTE 6273 3G usb modem recognised?
[10:08] <hq> thanks for nothing :P
[10:08] <frogzoo> I've tried the ZTE 627 package, without success - something's slightly different...
[10:09] <EXTACYs> frogzoo : usb modems should be automatically recognized maybe u should check the installation
[10:09] <Guest63309> ººÓï
[10:09] <WishingMaster> apt-get --fix-broken returns Command line option 'i' [from -fix-broken] is not known...........does n e 1 have an idea about this?
[10:09] <mostafa_> does anyone know where jockey saves its downloaded files?
[10:09] <mostafa_> jockey-gtk
[10:09] <frogzoo> EXTACYs: heh - supported usb modems are automatically recognised, this is a new usb modem, and not supported - well, not yet
[10:11] <WishingMaster> apt-get --fix-broken returns Command line option 'i' [from -fix-broken] is not known...........does n e 1 have an idea about this? root logged in
[10:11] <EXTACYs> frogzoo ...  when i used dual boot it didnt recognize my modem too . ..  so i used VMware
[10:12] <lexr> what desktop environment should I put on Pentium III Copermine with 256mb of ram and integrated graphics?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> lexr: i suggest LXDE or XFCE
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> lexr: p3 coppermines are awesome
[10:12] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, hi
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: dont log on as root
[10:13] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,you must be knowing about apt-get --f
[10:13] <lexr> thanks :)
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: i know -f but not --f
[10:13] <Jerusalem420> action, i have one out of 2 of my ubuntu machines online w/ the router
[10:13] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,ok
[10:14] <Jerusalem420> but my primamry machine is stil not getting dns info
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: --f doesnt exist
[10:14] <Jerusalem420> suggestions?
[10:14] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: nevermind, the space is supposed to be there, I looked up the input parameters for b43-fwcutter.. it's the target directory. My problem was that I should have put the original files into home instead of /lib.
[10:14] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,so if run apt-get -f-broken what should i see
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:14] <hipodilski> hi guys I've upgraded my ubuntu first from 8.04 -> 8.10 and after that to 9.04
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: or sudo apt-get --fix-broken install
[10:15] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,what will that do.......apt-get -f install
[10:15] <hipodilski> I used edubuntu packages before and my gnome is edubuntunized
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: the commands are synonymous
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: read man pages, they tell you much: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
[10:15] <hipodilski> after the upgrade my button on System that said Shut Down disappeared
[10:15] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i have broken packages
[10:15] <JyZyXEL> how do you put a bootable .iso meant for CD to USB stick?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: then you need that command
[10:15] <hipodilski> still I see some of the edubuntu gnome stuff when I login can I remove all this crap
[10:16] <hipodilski> and revert it to default gnome outlook / menus etc.?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> JyZyXEL: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[10:16] <rygot> ActionParsnip I find apt very undesirable. Just like not using root, one should not use apt, but aptititude. Thank you for your time.
[10:16] <JyZyXEL> ActionParsnip: no not ubuntu.iso
[10:16] <JyZyXEL> but  totally different .iso
[10:17] <nelson_> hI
[10:17] <gOLDfeesh> in the terminal when I hit "UP" it shows up as ^[[A
[10:17] <ikorin> hello )
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> rygot: i find apt very satisfactory. i also actively uninstall aptitude via script on my new installs. You will also notice a lot of the official documentation online uses apt-get. thank you for your time
[10:17] <sirGuest> I am having difficulty with my torrents. 0KB up and its only downloading one torrent. Any idea how to fix this?
[10:17] <nelson_> I would like to report a bug with wl drier on BCM4312, I don't know where to post
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> JyZyXEL: that will do any linux iso
[10:17] <nelson_> someone may tell me ?
[10:17] <JyZyXEL> ActionParsnip: its not linux iso
[10:17] <rygot> ActionParsnip aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> JyZyXEL: then you are in the wrong channel
[10:18] <JyZyXEL> no im not
[10:18] <Sidewinder1> !bug
[10:18] <rygot> Thank you for your time.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> rygot: just because it has more features doent make it better in any way
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> rygot: i have never used aptitude as apt-get does all i need
[10:19] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: that help page you gave me worked. I am on the net now. Thank you very much; you just saved me having to buy a new wifi card. :)
[10:19] <sirGuest> I am having difficulty with my torrents. 0KB up and its only downloading one torrent. Any idea how to fix this?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> rygot: and i advise users on what i am familiar wit, rather than a tool i have never used
[10:19] <nelson_> But I think Ubuntu don't care about *drivers*' bugs
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: good lad :)
[10:19] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,so i am going to run apt-get -f install..........is that right?
[10:19] <nelson_> so I want to post in a place whre my post will be read and cared
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: should be fine
[10:19] <rygot> ActionParsnip aptitude is far superior. It is not a matter of "extra features"
[10:19] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,see you later with feedback
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> rygot: ive used apt-get since gutsy and never had a single issue
[10:20] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,bye for now
[10:20] <rygot> ActionParsnip just as many women have had sex without protection but didn't get pregnant. It'll happen sooner or later
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> rygot: lets make this simple, you use aptitude and i'll use apt-get and the world will not explode
[10:20] <rygot> lol since gutsy ....
[10:20] <rygot> that long, huh?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> rygot: thats when i picked up ubuntu
[10:20] <Sidewinder1> nelson_> Bugs are reported and addressed in launchpad, referred to by ubottu, above.
[10:21] <rygot> rofl
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> rygot: ?
[10:21] <paissad-hp> hi everybody !
[10:21] <frogzoo> I thought with the new apt-get, there was basically no real difference in dependency handling?
[10:21] <Flannel> frogzoo: That's correct
[10:21] <frogzoo> ah, sweet :D
[10:22] <paissad-hp> is it possible to run an application via ssh and make that app continues running even the remote connection is closed ?
[10:22] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance for helping
[10:22] <Flannel> paissad-hp: Check out screen
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: i think screen will do it
[10:22] <Flannel> !screen | paissad-hp
[10:22] <frogzoo> paissad-hp: nohup command
[10:22] <frogzoo> actually, "nohup command &"
[10:22] <rygot> ActionParsnip ah sorry ... I've been using linux so long I was using it when apt and aptitude were both developed. You do know apt didn't start with ubuntu? Anyway, now that I know you're a newb I'll leave you to it
[10:22] <paissad-hp> frogzoo, nohup works also for ssh connections even if the connection is closed ?
[10:23] <nelson_> Sidewinder1 > So launchpad retarget bugs reports to the right development team ?
[10:23] <lexr> if I put another ide cable so I can attach another hdd, is it safe thing to do?
[10:23] <frogzoo> paissad-hp: I don't see why not
[10:23] <gOLDfeesh> Is there a way of fixing the terminal so "tab" autocompletes?
[10:23] <lexr> motherboards cable has only 2 and I need 3 places. Should I replace it?
[10:23] <Sidewinder1> nelson_> That is correct.
[10:23] <nelson_> ok thx
[10:23] <Flannel> rygot: Please ditch the attitude.
[10:23] <Sidewinder1> welks
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> rygot: ive been using linux since mandrake 7
[10:24] <matteo_> hi i am havjng problems with ubuntu 8.04 If i ear a youtube video and i try later to play a song with vlc, audacious,.. i get no sounds... Anyone may help me? I can't either set the volume...
[10:25] <rygot> Flannel I offered the sound advice that aptitude is superior to apt. That was challenged by someone with relatively little experience with the statement "it's always worked for me, so there is no problem." This is patently false. Do you challenge the notion that aptitude is superior to apt?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> rygot: you really need to get over yourself
[10:25] <rygot> ActionParsnip lol wow since mandrake 7, huh?
[10:25] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Just drop it
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: can you help here
[10:25] <Flannel> rygot: There's no difference in the way they handle dependencies anymore.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> thank you
[10:26] <rygot> Flannel yes, there still is. Unless you know better than both the apt and aptitude developers. I suggest you ditch the attitude and research your statements.
[10:26] <rygot> Thank you.
[10:26] <Flannel> rygot: No, there isn't.  Please drop it.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> rygot: why is apt-get stil part of a default install of ubuntu then if its so appauling? maybe you know better than the ubuntu dev team huh?
[10:27] <Flannel> rygot: There hasn't been for a number of years now
[10:27] <rygot> Flannel yes there is. You have been told. I suggest you research what you are saying then apologize to me. Thank you for your time. I will enter into no more discussion about the matter.
[10:27] <rygot> Flannel you are wrong.
[10:31] <indus> WishingMaster: hello
[10:32] <WishingMaster> indus,hi
[10:32] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,u there>
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: sup
[10:33] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i tried apt-get -f install
[10:33] <frogzoo> how do I find out if my kernel supports my usb modem? (zte 6273 in this case)
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ok...
[10:34] <wathek> hello all
[10:34] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i tried to build some dependencied but then it said 0 upgrade 0 install etc
[10:34] <wathek> I'm looking to configure a VoIP serveur which one do you recomand me ? please
[10:34] <SirJak> hola
[10:34] <indus> !voip
[10:35] <SirJak> alguien que hable español?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ok thats great
[10:35] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i have logged in recovery mode in grub menu,then i get an option dpkg repair
[10:36] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,it identifies 54 packages
[10:36] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,broken
[10:36] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,it gives me the option Y/N to repair/fix
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> sounds ok to me, its what the item is for i guess
[10:38] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i selected Y to repair and starts looking for an internet connection through eth0 but i am using usb connection
[10:38] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,no lan
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ive not used this so im no use here
[10:38] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,OMG u r my last hope
[10:39] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,i have not met any one with more knowledge than urs
[10:40] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,is there a way to configure usb conn instead of eth0?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: ive not used usb wan in ubuntu dude. do you have a list of packages that are "bad"?
[10:41] <nibbler_> frogzoo: still having problems with your modem? basically there is no need for modem-support, just for the usb2serial support. plug it and check dmesg|tail
[10:41] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,yes i do
[10:42] <frogzoo> nibbler_: I have one of these nutjob modems that have memory, so you have to jigger usb_modeswitch to disable the apparent cdrom on the device
[10:42] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,is there a command to install/repair them one by one
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: then note them down and boot normally, then you could run: sudo apt-gte --reinstall install <huge package list here>
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> apt-get sorry
[10:42] <frogzoo> nibbler_: if I could get a /dev/ttyUSB I'd be fine from there, but no
[10:43] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,do i have to put , to seperate the package names?
[10:43] <nibbler_> frogzoo: what does dmesg tell you, when plugging in the device?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: a space
[10:44] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,okay,i will get back to you with feedback
[10:44] <ikorin> what is your favorite irc client in ubuntu?
[10:44] <n8tuser> WishingMaster -> can you reboot to the older kernel?
[10:44] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip,bye for now
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> ikorin: in any distro, pidgin :D
[10:44] <frogzoo> nibbler_: http://pastebin.com/d44174ccc
[10:44] <ikorin> ActionParsnip: what about console?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> ikorin: i dont use console for irc
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> !irc | ikorin
[10:45] <n8tuser> ikorin irssi or irrsi i believed, cant recall the spelling
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> ikorin: people rage about irssi
[10:45] <nibbler_> frogzoo: well, there is no serial interface detected :| what about lsusb -vvv?
[10:45] <linux_manju> irssi
[10:46] <frogzoo> nibbler_: that's why you have to use usb_modeswitch - but all the howtos don't mention this device, which is somewhat new
[10:46] <karmyt> hi
[10:47] <nibbler_> frogzoo: ahhh ok, just reading about it, never heared of that...
[10:47] <frogzoo> nibbler_: heh - you don't want to neither :)
[10:49] <goddard> i had a report on my ubuntu server
[10:50] <goddard> what does this mean?
[10:50] <goddard> checking corrupt not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables
[10:50] <karmyt> hi
[10:50] <goddard> hello
[10:50] <karmyt> may i know u?
[10:51] <goddard> huh?
[10:51] <n8tuser> !ask | karmyt
[10:51] <frogzoo> you may not
[10:51] <karmyt> ok
[10:52] <nibbler_> frogzoo: so, what is the result of you running modeswitch?
[10:52] <geneven> anyone know how to change url box font for dillo?
[10:53] <frogzoo> well, it changes bus ID from 19d2:2000 ->  19d2:0064, as reported by lsusb - not sure where to go from here, might try modprobing usb_serial?
[10:55] <nibbler_> frogzoo: what does dmesg say after modechanging?
[10:57] <indus_> dmesg | tail
[10:57] <frogzoo> nibbler_: after modprobe usbserial vendor=0x19d2 product=0x0064, I now have /dev/ttyUSB[12] so I should be good from here, thanks :)
[10:57] <nibbler_> frogzoo: well... not that i have the feeling of having helped you, but u r welcome ;-)
[10:58] <frogzoo> lol
[10:58] <indus_> what is the solution for a splitting headache
[11:00] <Cally> Hello all, I have an ATI card and ubuntu 9.04 and it's unreasonably slow. Anyone mind helping me out?
[11:00] <ikorin> Cally: try download radeon drivers from ati site
[11:01] <Cally> ikorin, ok will do bbl
[11:02] <erUSUL> !ati | Cally
[11:02] <erUSUL> Cally: do not use the drivers directly from ati/nvidia site. only do this as last resort
[11:03] <ikorin> erUSUL: why? what is wrong with them? )
[11:03] <Cally> erUSUL, what should I use?
[11:03] <can_xyz> asdas
[11:04] <ikorin> Cally: i used them and all works like a charm :)
[11:04] <joejacobs> hey guys need some help. I've downloaded the ubuntu 9.04 iso 3 times and I can never get it installed. The first time it all goes smoothly until I see a message saying something about moving my machine into a cooler room. the second time the cd is just too slow for anything to load. the third time the cd wont boot. i just went to the site, downloaded the 32-bit version and burnt it onto a cd using iso recorder on windows vista. what am i doing wrong or is
[11:04] <erUSUL> ikorin: not supported neither here or by canonical. require manual compilation everytime an update of the kernel or the graphic stack is updated. not to mention what happens when you try to upgrade the entire distribution
[11:04] <erUSUL> !worksforme | ikorin
[11:05] <ikorin> erUSUL: manual compilcation??? it is binary pkg
[11:05] <erUSUL> Cally: first try System>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[11:05] <Cally> erUSUL, I tried that already
[11:05] <erUSUL> ikorin: yes but it compiles or dlads the kernel module for the kernel you use
[11:05] <erUSUL> !envyng | Cally
[11:06] <Cally> !BinaryDriver
[11:06] <pranav> Do you know some partition manager like "partition magic" in Linux ?
[11:07] <pranav> Do you know some partition manager like "partition magic" in Linux ?
[11:07] <ikorin> yep, partition editor?
[11:07] <erUSUL> pranav: gparted
[11:07] <caguamon> parted is the best
[11:07] <caguamon> gparted is the gui for it
[11:07] <pranav> thanks guyz
[11:07] <joejacobs> anyone?
[11:08] <ikorin> joejacobs: what?
[11:08] <erUSUL> joejacobs: checked the cd's ?
[11:08] <erUSUL> !md5 | joejacobs
[11:08] <joejacobs> hey guys need some help. I've downloaded the ubuntu 9.04 iso 3 times and I can never get it installed. The first time it all goes smoothly until I see a message saying something about moving my machine into a cooler room. the second time the cd is just too slow for anything to load. the third time the cd wont boot. i just went to the site, downloaded the 32-bit version and burnt it onto a cd using iso recorder on windows vista. what am i doing wrong?
[11:08] <ikorin> erUSUL: you are crazy ))
[11:08] <Cally> Is there a list of supported ati cards?
[11:08] <joejacobs> ah thx
[11:09] <joejacobs> checked the cds its all ok
[11:09] <laclasse> joejacobs, bit worried about "I see a message saying something about moving my machine into a cooler room"
[11:09] <hoover> joejacobs: sounds like a bad burner
[11:09] <ikorin> joejacobs: try dvd version
[11:09] <hoover> did you create all those cd's using the same drive?
[11:09] <nibbler_> joejacobs: try alternate installer disk!
[11:09] <laclasse> joejacobs, is the machine overheating?
[11:09] <joejacobs> laclasse: nope i've made sure it isnt
[11:10] <joejacobs> nibbler_: ok will do
[11:10] <laclasse> joejacobs, as nibbler says, when all fails, try the alternate installer
[11:10] <joejacobs> ok thx guys will try that
[11:10] <chalcedony> i have a sata drive (new) with my data transferred to it, i need to install grub on it so the computer can boot with it. How do i do that?
[11:10] <nibbler_> alternate isntaller is better anyway, as it supports encrypted / in contrary to the normal one
[11:10] <geneven> joejacobs you may be able to make your machine cooler by changing fan speed in cmos, maybe the other probs are associated with that
[11:10] <hoover> or try opening the case
[11:11] <joejacobs> it's a notebook if that makes any diff
[11:11] <joejacobs> i'll try the alternate installer n see how it goes
[11:11] <joejacobs> thxx
[11:11] <laclasse> chalcedony, you need to chroot into the new system drive and run grub-install from there
[11:11] <nibbler_> joejacobs: good luck
[11:11] <blip-> hi all, I want to try Lubuntu, on the wikipedia page it says there is a LiveCD of 9.10b14 lubuntu but I can't find it online.  any ideas ?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[11:11] <ikorin> guys how old are you?
[11:11] <nibbler_> 30
[11:11] <ikorin> wow )
[11:12] <ikorin> nibbler_: location?
[11:12] <nibbler_> ikorin: munich
[11:12] <chalcedony> ikonia, i'm a 55 yo grandmother
[11:13] <ikorin> nibbler_: Germany, cool )
[11:13] <laclasse> chalcedony, hehe hello, long time no see (La_Classe from nixhelp/cj)
[11:13] <chalcedony> oh kewl!!
[11:13] <chalcedony> ((((( laclasse  ))))))))
[11:13] <jussi01> !ot | ikorin
[11:13] <chalcedony> great to see you
[11:13] <laclasse> chalcedony, :) here are some basic steps: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/divukman-203269/2005/12/14/switch-to-new-hard-drive-41/
[11:13] <laclasse> chalcedony, same here :)
[11:13] <ikorin> sorry )
[11:13] <ikonia> chalcedony: pardon ?
[11:14] <chalcedony> laclasse, ive spent 4 days trying to get it to see the drive. i'm so tired of it
[11:14] <Doinkfasa> oooooh
[11:14] <chalcedony> ikonia, my son is one of the original linpeople who created debian
[11:14] <laclasse> chalcedony, its not the most straightforward thing to do :|
[11:14] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok - you do know this is ubuntu support channel, and that has no relevence in here
[11:14] <chalcedony> laclasse, the black screen with the little - blinking .. blech
[11:14] <frogzoo1> chalcedony: so get your son to do it :)
[11:15] <chalcedony> frogzoo1, he grew up got jobs .. moved to texas
[11:15] <kuttappan> What do you feel most good about the latest jaunty release?
[11:15] <frogzoo1> chalcedony: oh noes...
[11:15] <ikonia> guys - just a gentle nudge, the topic of this channel is ubuntu support discussion only
[11:15] <matteo_> anyone may help me with an audio problem in 8.04, i can't low the volume
[11:16] <kuttappan> matteo_, pls describe the situation
[11:17] <matteo_> if i try to low th volume from the up-right corner of the screen it doesn't go down...
[11:17] <chalcedony> frogzoo1, you find out how *interesting* everything is .. when the one who does things .. vanishes
[11:17] <kuttappan> any idea about which is your soundcard?
[11:18] <kuttappan> or, just name the motherboard
[11:18] <ikonia> chalcedony: please stop now, I've reminded you of the topic 3 times now
[11:19] <caguamon> Just to make sure I don't end up mashing some setting, is the easiest way to down 1 of my 2 wireless interfaces just to "sudo ifconfig wlan666 down" from a terminal
 <ikonia> .. funny they look similar
[11:19] <seva1> Greetings to everybody.
[11:19] <seva1> Does anyone have some experience of using bin9 dns server? The problem is that I cannot locate configuration files (named.conf or so) having bind9 manually compiled. What am I doing wrong?
[11:19] <Flannel> chalcedony: Is there something we can help you with today?
[11:19] <ikonia> chalcedony: easy nick to mistake, it's not a problem, just please try to keep to the ubuntu support discussion topic
[11:20] <ikonia> seva1: why did you compile it ? ubuntu has a version packaged for you
[11:20] <chalcedony> Flannel, very nice to see you :)
[11:20] <Cally> can someone help me with an ati driver thing please?
[11:20] <chalcedony> Flannel, ive spent 4 days trying to get my mailserver to see the drive.
[11:21] <onno> om
[11:21] <chalcedony> Flannel, it doesn't the super grub cd i have might be old? is there another better way?
[11:22] <ikonia> chalcedony: can you give a high level expliation of the problem please
[11:22] <coz_> hey guys  I have a question... I am on ubuntu  with scsi drives ..on the last several versions of ubuntu ..when booting in..it drops to  initramfs  at which point I have to  type "exit"  so that it boots...I know I can go into /boot/grub/menu.lst  and add rootdelay-40  to the kernel stanza   ..this opten dsables a applications I use to change  that file via gui ...my question is there an alternative to adding this line ?
[11:22] <coz_> rather  rootdelay=40
[11:22] <coz_> and also what exactly am I doing with this line?
[11:23] <erUSUL> coz_: you are making the kernel wait longer for the root fs to become aviable
[11:23] <seva1>  ikonia: i decided to compile it because I noticed that apache2 configuration file was split in many parts in packaged version, so I was not sure I would properly understand the guide I found in the web
[11:23] <erUSUL> coz_: probably initalicing the your scsi disks takes longer than expected for some reason
[11:24] <coz_> erUSUL,  ok and is there an alternative to this or perhaps a different delay number
[11:24] <chalcedony> Flannel, he had me get that,   http://download.linux-live-cd.org/Super_Grub_Disk/download/binaries/sgd/cdrom/super_grub_disk_0.9795.iso told me to reboot and do things.. but it won't boot to the drive. my friend tried with a gentoo live cd.. it can see the drive but not afterward, if i reboot.
[11:24] <mats> hi! can someone help me change regdomain and countrycode on madwifi?
[11:24] <chalcedony> ikonia, see above post to Flannel
[11:24] <erUSUL> coz_: where do you add that line ? tried in the "defoptions" line ?
[11:25] <chalcedony> Flannel, ikonia he = my son (sorry i'm so tired)
[11:25] <ikonia> seva1: how as does the apache config file relate to the bind9 version in the repo ?
[11:25] <ikonia> seva1: if you are going to build your own software you should know how to manage the config file
[11:26] <ikonia> chalcedony: what is the actual fault you have with your system
[11:26] <Hansard_> is there any way for a website to have access to the username of the person logged in?
[11:26] <coz_> erUSUL,  in the /boot/grub/menu.lst  in the kernel stanza
[11:26] <Hansard_> wondering if it's a security or privacy issue to have your username as your full name
[11:27] <hoover> Hansard_: only if basic auth is enabled on the webserver
[11:27] <erUSUL> coz_: try in the defconf line that maybe makes your gui app happier
[11:27] <hoover> Hansard_: and no, this won't usually be your unix login
[11:27] <seva1> when I manually compiled apache, there was one httpd.conf file with all settings, so I thought there is the same with bind9
[11:27] <erUSUL> coz_: then run « sudo update-grub »
[11:27] <Hansard_> ok thanks hoover
[11:27] <ikonia> seva1: there is only one named.conf file in the ubuntu packaged version
[11:28] <coz_> erUSUL,  the same  rootdelay=40  in the defoptions line itself/
[11:28] <ikonia> seva1: you can still make your own config file, however #bind may be a better place for your custom build support
[11:28] <erUSUL> coz_: yep just before the quiet and splash options already there
[11:28] <coz_> erUSUL,   ok I will give that a whirl   here now  and check its effects ..thanks :)
[11:29] <chalcedony> ikonia, it can't boot to the drive.  it said control z to key into user window,  it shows info about the raid and the drive. but if i had not hit conrol z for user screen.. it would be a black screen with a blinking - in the top left corner.
[11:29] <erUSUL> coz_: the line woul look « # defoptions=quiet splash rootdelay=40 » (note that you have to keep the # )
[11:29] <seva1> ikonia: thanks for the advice
[11:29] <ikonia> chalcedony: so a disk in your raid array has failed yes/no ?
[11:29] <coz_> erUSUL,   got it thanks again :)  will test it shortly
[11:30] <kuttappan> Somebody please help: I registered my IRC nickname on NICKSERV, but now when i try to use that nickname, it says it's already taken....any idea how to log on witrh my registered nick?
[11:30] <ikonia> kuttappan: ask in #freenode
[11:30] <kuttappan> thank you ikonia
[11:31] <[Spooky]> How do i enable DHT in transmission?
[11:31] <chalcedony> ikonia, i do not have a raid. i have a PCI SATA+PATA RAID card, in an EIDE only computer, so it can see my sata drive.
[11:31] <Hansard_> oh crap... I updated my system and now my wireless has stopped working again
[11:32]  * chalcedony pats Hansard_ gently 
[11:32] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok so what disk can't you see ?
[11:32] <chalcedony> ikonia, it can't see the sata drive .
[11:32] <Hansard_> damn you update manager!!
[11:33] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok has this disk ever worked ?
[11:34] <chalcedony> ikonia, the drive was in my box when my son transferred the data from the failing eide drive to it.. and then we got the adapter card and tried to get it to work in the mailserver box.. so far.. it can only be seen with a live cd.
[11:34] <Misantropo> y have a Phusion Passenger problem: "The application spawner server exited unexpectedly: Unexpected end-of-file detected." 	Can't get why this is happening.
[11:34] <Tukson> Willkomt bruderz
[11:34] <Hansard_> action appears to have left... he gave me this to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and it worked and then I updated my system and rebooted and the wireless has stopped working again... can anyone suggest anything please?
[11:34] <ikonia> chalcedony: so you can see the disk when you boot into the livecd, but you can't see the disk from your system ?
[11:35] <chalcedony> ikonia, yes it was giving a failure error.. and now the black screen with the flashing _
[11:35] <Tukson> TrOllz?
[11:35] <ikonia> chalcedony: does the machine boot ?
[11:35] <ikonia> Tukson: pardon ?
[11:36] <chalcedony> ikonia, how do you mean ?
[11:36] <coz_> erUSUL,   well that had no effect at all :)
[11:36] <Tukson> ikonia: Can I help you?
[11:36] <ikonia> chalcedony: is your operating system on this disk, and does the operating system boot
[11:36] <ikonia> Tukson: you just said "TrOllz?" -
[11:37] <Tukson> yes, I said brotha
[11:37] <padi999> hey
[11:37] <chalcedony> ikonia, i think thats what the supergrub cd was supposed to have accomplished. the old drive had ubuntu 8.04 on it .. nothing actually boots but the live cd (gentoo) at this point
[11:37] <padi999> What ports need I forward for ctorrent to work with a router/firewall between lan and wan sides?
[11:37] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok so you can't boot from your pci sata card - is that right ?
[11:37] <chalcedony> Tukson, are you insuating that i'm trolling?
[11:38] <chalcedony> ikonia, yes
[11:38] <padi999> It seems that other clients work here, but ctorrent not
[11:38] <david_> hey anyone have the issue of the Internet connection dying after a suspend?
[11:38] <Tukson> just for example the test for my keyboard
[11:38] <chalcedony> insinuating even
[11:38] <ikonia> chalcedony: ok so does your board allow you to boot from that card in the bios
[11:39] <ikonia> chalcedony: it's clear the card/disk are working as you can see them in the livecd, but if your motherboard won't allow you to boot from that card, there is no fix that will sort it
[11:39] <Hansard_> anyone know how to roll back an update? I need to get my wireless working again
[11:39] <chalcedony> ikonia, ok then i can give up and transfer the data to the new eide drive i bought ?
[11:40] <chalcedony> ((((( ActionParsnip )))))))
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> sup
[11:40] <ikonia> chalcedony: if your board supports booting off that - that seems a good idea
[11:40] <chalcedony> Hansard_, don't do that let ActionParsnip help you get your wireless working
[11:40] <Tukson> the Gubuttu linuks 18.1 - Hormonal  Penguin release candidate edition when will starting?
[11:40] <Hansard_> oh thank god he's back
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:40] <Hansard_> good idea chalcedony
[11:40] <chalcedony> :)
[11:41] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I updated all my programs with update manager, it asked for a reboot, I rebooted and now my wireless is broken again.
[11:41] <chalcedony> ikonia, the drive is in the box, what do i need to do to transfer the data besides plugiging the eide connector and power connector in?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: did you get a new kernel?
[11:41] <Hansard_> I was running fresh from the current 9.1 iso.
[11:41] <paco_the_taco> i love uubntu.
[11:42] <ikonia> chalcedony: mount the two disks and copy the data
[11:42] <ikonia> paco_the_taco: ok - thats nice, however keep in mind this channel is for support discussion only
[11:42] <CoUrPsE> Anyone know where i can get a wmp9 codec? rhythmbox is moaning at me all the time, :/
[11:42] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: no, pretty sure it just updated programs, not the kernel.
[11:42] <ikonia> !codec > CoUrPsE
[11:42] <padi999> ctorrent doesn't connect behind a router-firewall but ktorrent does, what is the difference here?
[11:42] <Jaco> Ok guys a simple question from me...
[11:42] <CoUrPsE> Danke.
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: then i'd just reinstall it as if it never worked
[11:42] <ikonia> padi999: I'd guess ports ?
[11:42] <GingerBrigham1> hi all, new to ubuntu.  anyone free for a private chat, i need big help lol
[11:42] <freeloader> Hello, how can I have the full path rather than jus the ~ on the terminal?
[11:42] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: oh ok
[11:43] <ikonia> GingerBrigham1: ask the channel your question
[11:43] <Jaco> How do I change my DHCP IP on ETH0 to a static IP on Ubuntu 9.04 Server using command line?
[11:43] <ikonia> freeloader: look into "PS1"
[11:43] <padi999> ikonia: but the router doesn't forward any ports specifically
[11:43] <ikonia> Jaco: depends if you are using gnome desktops network manager applet
[11:43] <ikonia> padi999: firewall blocking ?
[11:43] <Jaco> No, it's command line only
[11:43] <freeloader> ikonia: I have /w in PS1...
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: you can use network manager or you can put the data in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:43] <ikonia> Jaco: look at /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: then you must use /etc/network/interfaces
[11:44] <GingerBrigham1> just installed and got internet connection.  trying to get updates but it says i've no room on my hdd!!!  tried to open gparted but says i don't have privilege to open it?
[11:44] <ikonia> freeloader: so that shows present working directory
[11:44] <padi999> ikonia: I checked with wireshark, ktorrent uses a lot of ports between rougly 38000 and 55000
[11:44] <udssr_shorty> Hey guys! Does someone know how to make the "Select pattern" command in nautilus case INsensitive?
[11:44] <ikonia> padi999: that makes sense
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces      then read this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[11:44] <chalcedony> ikonia, my BIOS appears to be seeing the drive (and to do so, must see the card as well) , no?
[11:44] <freeloader> ikonia: it does, but as ~ instead of /home/USER
[11:44] <ikonia> chalcedony: that doesn't mean you can boot for it
[11:44] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, i have restricted-extras on already. how can i find the codec to install thou?
[11:44]  * chalcedony smiles
[11:44] <ikonia> freeloader: ahhh ~ is the symbol for home
[11:45] <ikonia> freeloader: change it to PS1=`pwd`
[11:45] <padi999> ikonia: no blocking specifically, I mean, I thought it could be a port-forwarding thing, but then why would it work with ktorrent but not with ctorrent
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | CoUrPsE
[11:45] <ikonia> padi999: yes, that is confusing
[11:45] <Jaco> Is there a command line version of the network manager or something I can install to make the process a little less hairy for a beginner...?
[11:45] <CoUrPsE> Yeah. ikonia just told me that.
[11:45] <ikonia> Jaco: use the gui then
[11:45] <CoUrPsE> But it only tells me to install *-extras
[11:45] <CoUrPsE> And i already have.,
[11:45] <ikonia> Jaco: that's why there is a gui, if you need a gui use it, if you want to use the command line, use it, but a command line gui - what's the point
[11:46] <freeloader> ikonia: I tried that, but for some reason it would only display the /home/USER once, and when i change directory, it sticks with /home/USER
[11:46] <Jaco> I installed the 64bit version of Ubuntu Server 9.04 so I don't know if there is a GUI available?
[11:46] <chalcedony> ikonia, can you elaborate on this ? my helper guy wants to keep pursuing it
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: then you have a tonne of codecs installed, extras is a metapackage whih installs other packages to give you stuff
[11:46] <ikonia> chalcedony: if your bios can see the disk, that's great, it doesn't mean you bios can boot from that disk on the external card
[11:46] <Jaco> It starts up straight into the command line
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if you read the guide, its not hard at all
[11:46] <ikonia> Jaco: install ubuntu-desktop package and you'll get a gui
[11:46] <Jaco> I need the server
[11:47] <ikonia> Jaco: /etc/network/interfaces is just a text file so it should be quite easy to use
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: ifyou want a gui, why did you install server?
[11:47] <ikonia> Jaco: why do you need the server install, the desktop install makes an excellent server
[11:47] <manu_zacharia> Hi All, I created a custom live CD using remastersys and when I boot, the GRUB displays the custom distro name that I gave during the remastersys configuration. However, when i install the disto to HDD using ubiquity, the grub menu changes back to Ubuntu. May I know where is the configuration, so that after install also, the menu displays the custom name
[11:47] <manous> hi,is there any tool to create chm file under linux?
[11:47] <CoUrPsE> :/ rhythmbox keeps poppping up saying i aint got a windows media player 9 codec, and it does this for bowt 20 times each time i boot it, It also doesnt tell me the files that its having probs with either, so i donno what to delete, and i cant find a install of the wmp9 codec, :/
[11:47] <zxd> is there a way to block firefox  from browsing local files file://
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: the whole point of the server is not to have a gui
[11:47] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I reinstalled it as per the instructions and it didn't work.
[11:47] <Jaco> Everything is working as it should I just need to change the IP now
[11:47] <shosei> test
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> jaco: servers dont have guis for security and to reduce ram used on the system
[11:47] <ikonia> shosei: pass
[11:47] <GingerBrigham1> how do i get more disk space?  i've installed 9.04 (64) as dual-boot with vista and it only gave me a small space, even though i've got a 320gb drive?
[11:47] <Jaco> I checked the interfaces file but there's very little info in there
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> jaco: edit /etc/network/interfaces using that file, its childishly simple
[11:48] <Jaco> just auto eth0
[11:48] <ikonia> Jaco:
[11:48] <chalcedony> ikonia, so installing a new grub tarball won't fix it ?
[11:48] <ikonia> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ja
[11:48] <Jaco> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[11:48] <ikonia> chalcedony: no
[11:48] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> jaco: thats the whole point, you need to flesh it out yourself
[11:48] <zxd> is it just me or firefox 3.5 in ubuntu dosen't have google search engine
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if yo uwant to set the ip on eth0 you need to change that to: iface eth0 inet static
[11:49] <Jaco> How would I know what to type in?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> jaco: then you use the guide to ADD lines to suit your network.
[11:49] <Jaco> Where can I find that guide?
[11:49] <dantonic> hi I'm running 9.04, after a suspend I completely lose network connectivity, and am unable to restart it unless I reboot.  Anyone have the same problem or know of a solution?
[11:49] <hoover> cheers all
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if you want to use static IP you MUST know the address, subnet mask and default gateway for the system
[11:49] <ikonia> Jaco: I've just given you a url with a guide in
[11:49] <Jaco> I've got all the static IP details including DNS addresses
[11:49] <caguamon> Not to mention any nameservers hhe might want to use
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> jaco: great, dns addresses go in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:50] <ikonia> Jaco: check the guide I just sent you - it explains it
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> jaco: and need prefixing with nameserver
[11:50] <ankur> how to reconfigure all settings in ubuntu...
[11:50] <Jaco> I'm checking it... think I should be ok now
[11:50] <Jaco> Thanks for the help everyone
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Jaco: if you want a server then do not install X or gnome or kde or anything
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> like that
[11:51] <ankur> dpkg-reconfigure -a not working even in the single user mode...
[11:51] <Jaco> Yes, so far those aren't installed
[11:51] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: reinstall didn't help.
[11:51] <nibbler_> ankur: nopate the output
[11:51] <GingerBrigham1> trying to update and getting error message, "need more disk space" ??  anyone help?
[11:52] <nibbler_> GingerBrigham1: your harddisk is full
[11:52] <aLeSD> hi all
[11:52] <aLeSD> is it possible to ptogram in flash under linux ?
[11:52] <ankur> nibbler: invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm "reload" failed
[11:52] <GingerBrigham1> ha ha, yes, i've got a dual boot with vista, got a 320gb hdd so plenty of room, just don't know how to increase for ubuntu
[11:52] <cast> aLeSD: anything is possiible, but i can't recommend it
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: ok then read through     dmesg | less     and you will be able to diagnose
[11:53] <aLeSD> cast: you mean that macromedia doesn't support linux  ?
[11:53] <Hansard_> GingerBrigham1: apt-get install gparted
[11:53] <ankur> this is the first time i am facing a problem in ubuntu...
[11:54] <GingerBrigham1> hansard_: did that but it says i don't have rights to use gparted
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> GingerBrigham1: you could put a folder on the ntfs partition and put data in there, using the ntfs space
[11:54] <Hansard_> GingerBrigham1: sudo
[11:54] <mats> hi. can someone help me change regdomain on atheros?
[11:54] <Ek1x> sudo is a grate command
[11:54] <Ek1x> guys
[11:55] <GingerBrigham1> hansard_: i'm new to this, so not sure what to do!
[11:55] <ankur> any other method may be using live cd...?
[11:55] <caguamon> Is there simply no support for 802.11n speeds in Linux?
[11:55] <ikonia> caguamon: some intel cards have it, but it's limited/early days
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> caguamon: i'm sure some devices will support it
[11:56] <indus_> hi
[11:56] <Tukson> The genttoo linuks better than ubuttu?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> caguamon: if you are only browsing the web with it you will notice very little difference with n. If you transfer files between systems then you will see it
[11:56] <ikonia> Tukson: personal opinion - try them see what you like
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Tukson: there is no better or best
[11:56] <InDuS> UBUNTU is best
[11:56] <caguamon> Its more for the distance
[11:57] <ikonia> InDuS: no - it's personal opinion
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Tukson: essentially its the same OS, Linux
[11:57] <Tukson> better , because hungarian support channel equals with ten tons shit of TUX
[11:57] <ikonia> Tukson: please control your language, no swearing
[11:57] <InDuS> ya personal opinion for majority users?
[11:57] <InDuS> nvm
[11:57] <ikonia> InDuS: no - you don't know that
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: doesnt make it right, most PC users use windows, doesnt make it the best OS does it
[11:58] <GingerBrigham1> ah, got gparted to work now.  cheers hansard_
[11:58] <Tukson> the hungarian ubuntu support channel : time for nothing
[11:58] <InDuS> ikonia: well its statistics which say ubuntu is most popular isnt it
[11:58] <ikonia> InDuS: no
[11:58] <ankur> somebody help i really don't want to reinstall...i have many active servers running on it...
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: i'd shoot for redhat personally
[11:58] <InDuS> it doenst?
[11:58] <ikonia> Tukson: non-mainstream languages don't have as strong support in Linux, it's the larger languages which sadley get the better/more full support
[11:58] <InDuS> distrowatch says ubuntu is 1?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> ankur: wassup?
[11:58] <ikonia> InDuS: distrowatch is not fact
[11:59] <freeloader> can't I write something like this: \`STATUS=$?;\` inside PS1?
[11:59] <InDuS> ikonia: then which one is
[11:59] <ikonia> none
[11:59] <ikonia> InDuS: it's personal opinion
[11:59] <InDuS> ikonia: other popular sites reviewing ubuntu over other distros
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: there s no way of knowing as there is no purchased license
[11:59] <ankur> nothing is fine...
[11:59] <InDuS> i prefer windows 7 though
[11:59] <ikonia> InDuS: use what works best for you
[11:59] <caguamon> Where do I config the settings for the wireless device, I see all the pretty GUI config in NetworkManager for IP stuff, but no device level stuff
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: 1 user may download the ISO 400 times but it would still be 1 user so there is no way of really counting
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> ankur: care to expand?
[12:00] <Tukson> ikonia the holyness brotha: in #ubuntu-hu not  possible to correct problems solving. the mens talking about bycicle...
[12:00] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: what am I looking for? I can't see b43 anywhere in the output from that
[12:00] <ikonia> Tukson: I'm really sorry, I don't understand what you're ssaying
[12:00] <InDuS> !info bicycle
[12:00] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: the reverse is also true one iso dled can be installed (copied) in 400 computers ;P
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: is there a way to uninstall the b43 thing, ten you can reinstall it
[12:00] <InDuS> forgot package name
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: good point
[12:02] <InDuS> ubuntu according to canonical is most popular distro too u know
[12:02] <Tukson> ikonia: the small talk is proceeding about the cycling on the channel not Linux the topic! it is true really!
[12:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: not in synaptic and can't find any reference to an uninstall on google
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: try: dpkg -l | grep cutter
[12:03] <ikonia> Tukson: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: popular doesnt mean best, in any way shape or form
[12:03] <manu_zacharia> Hi All, I created a custom live CD using remastersys and when I boot, the GRUB displays the custom distro name that I gave during the remastersys configuration. However, when i install the disto to HDD using ubiquity, the grub menu changes back to Ubuntu. May I know where is the configuration, so that after install also, the menu displays the custom name
[12:03] <Tukson> ikonia: I talked about #ubuntu-hu
[12:03] <InDuS> ActionParsnip:so what does it mean then
[12:03] <ankur> i am unable to start any xserver services...else every thing working fine...
[12:03] <ikonia> Tukson: I don't know anything about that channel
[12:04] <Tukson> ikonia: #ubuntu-hu = Official Hungarian Ubuntu linux support channel
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: it means a lot of people either find it suits their needs, or are completely ignorant to alternatives
[12:04] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: did that remove it or you need the output?
[12:04] <hickop> Hi , I need to know , does ubuntu used patches with xorg-server 1.6.0 please ?
[12:05] <ankur> i have tried to dpkg-reconfigure but. its giving message  nibbler: invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm "reload" failed
[12:05] <ikonia> hickop: I believe there are some patches applied, download the source package and check them
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: if some / one of the packags looks related to the firmware cutter, uninstall it
[12:05] <InDuS> ActionParsnip: so since most people think or have similar needs, it makes that product the best by popularity
[12:05] <aLeSD> hi .. I have an amd phenom X4 and I'd like to virtualize another OS on my ubuntu . What I have to use ?
[12:05] <hickop> ikonia: where can i get the ubuntu source please ?
[12:06] <ikonia> InDuS: no - its not, lets stop talking about it in here please
[12:06] <aLeSD> hickop: ubuntu source ?
[12:06] <ikonia> hickop: apt-get source $package_name
[12:06] <InDuS> ikonia: ok stopped
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: no, it is only best to the people that think it suits their needs best. "best" is an evaluation of something to the requirements of the something. If a different something (in your opinion and after analysing) can perform the task better, then the first thing ceases to be best
[12:06] <InDuS> when is next LTS
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> InDuS: 10.04
[12:07] <hickop> ikonia: i mean i dont actually have ubuntu , i used it before and the xorg-server was working , but now with the source from xorg its not
[12:07] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: says that it's a utility for extracting the firmware to the /lib/firmware folder
[12:07] <ikonia> hickop: xorg source is supported in #xorg
[12:07] <aLeSD> help
[12:07] <InDuS> i heard they might push it to 10.10 for gnome 3 but nvm off topic
[12:07] <aLeSD> I will install virt-manager
[12:07] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: should I remove the folders from /lib/firmware instead?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: if there is a package then uninstall it, if there are files you have placed then rename or move them
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: i dont recommend deleting until you have the goal
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: less destructive
[12:08] <hickop> ikonia: but ubuntu patches arent
[12:08] <Hansard_> is there any way to look at the currently loaded mods to see what is actually the problem?
[12:08] <ikonia> hickop: but you're not using ubuntu patches
[12:08] <ikonia> hickop: you said the source from xorg, that contains no ubuntu patches
[12:08] <hickop> ikonia: no , and i need them
[12:08] <torn> Is there any way to use a site that uses Oracle Jinitiator? For example: gorms.compass-usa.com   In Firefox, it says I needed a plugin, which is available for Windows only. I tried with Wine and Playonlinux, but neither worked. I heard there is a way to trick Firefox into using Java which will work?
[12:08] <kos> Where can I get the src of the GNU reglx?
[12:08] <bernardlychan> hey guyz... anyone know a good album art finder for itunes? i only have the songnames and artists, i don't have the album info.
[12:09] <ikonia> hickop: got to the ubuntu repos then and download the source debs
[12:09] <ikonia> bernardlychan: itunes is not an ubuntu product, it's not supported in here
[12:09] <bernardlychan> :(
[12:09] <bernardlychan> anyone else know?
[12:09] <InDuS> if source repos is selected, you can download source too i suppose
[12:09] <ikonia> bernardlychan: what part of "not supported" did I not make clear ?
[12:09] <bernardlychan> sigh
[12:09] <bernardlychan> yes madam
[12:09] <bernardlychan> goodbye madam
[12:09] <rww> !apple | bernardlychan
[12:10] <bernardlychan> sweet ty rww
[12:10] <MenZa> bernardlychan: Please don't. This is strictly for Ubuntu support. Try ##apple
[12:10] <bernardlychan> man u r very helpful sir
[12:10] <bernardlychan> MenZa... nice!! ty very much!! another helpful sir
[12:10] <ankur> anyone there to help me...
[12:10] <kos> bernardlychan:HI, Where can I get the src of the GNU reglx?
[12:10] <drygrain> lol
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ankur: i havent seen your issue
[12:11] <Aayush> can any one help in this problem http://pastebin.com/m4c24ca02
[12:11] <bernardlychan> ankur, hmm, wat do u mean?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> ankur: ok found it, let me websearch
[12:11] <ankur> ActionParsnip: dpkg-reconfigure -a not working even in the single user mode...
[12:11] <InDuS> Aayush: that question can be directly posted here
[12:12] <ankur> ActionParsnip: i have tried to dpkg-reconfigure but. its giving message  invoke-rc.d : initscript gdm "reload" failed
[12:12] <torn> Does anyone have any idea about getting Jinitiator working?
[12:12] <ankur> ActionParsnip: i have searched a lot they all say to dpkg-reconfigure
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ankur: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:13]  * bernardlychan sees ikonia in a mini skirt and thinks she is cute
[12:13] <bernardlychan> cya ikonia
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ankur: and use kdm, instead
[12:13] <nubae|work> #sugar
[12:13] <ankur> ActonParsnip: i dont have kdm
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ankur: install it
[12:14] <ankur> ActionParsnip: i have xdm and i also tried to load it...it too giving the same error
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> ankur: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove gdm; sudo apt-get install gdm
[12:15] <DigitalDarkness> Anyone here know of "easy" way to configure your monitor from cli. I am on a eMac and xorgs not even configures my display.
[12:15] <DigitalDarkness> *configured
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> DigitalDarkness: start with: sudo lshw -C display | grep product
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> DigitalDarkness: you can then configure the video card
[12:16] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: hmmm I did lsmod and ndiswrapper is still running for some reason even though I rmmod it. What would happen if I ran sudo rm *ndiswrapper*
[12:16] <ankur> ActionParsnip: can i " sodo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg" and then install it
[12:16] <Tritaris> for some reason on my laptop the sound only comes through the headphones and not the built in speakers. is there some way to switch the output?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> ankur: its sudo , not sodo
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ankur: i guess you could, bit drastic
[12:17] <Aayush> i have ubuntu host with ip 192.168.5.2
[12:17] <Aayush> i installed xp guest , with bridging, and ip 192.168.5.4
[12:17] <Aayush> they both cant ping each other what could be the problem ?
[12:17] <DigitalDarkness> Many thanks Action, I will try.. ty
[12:17] <DigitalDarkness> exit
[12:17] <CoUrPsE> Anyone use vritualbox and could help me out?
[12:17] <ankur> ActionParsnip : ok i am going to try it ...thank you...
[12:18] <Blizzerand> CoUrPsE : I think I could
[12:18] <CoUrPsE> Can i pm you since its a lil' unrelated?
[12:19] <Blizzerand> CoUrPsE : But if you post it here , all those who are live may also be able to help which is  a good thing
[12:19] <CoUrPsE> Spose, anyways, i have winxp on the virtualbox, But i cant install ati drivers.
[12:22] <Blizzerand> CoUrPsE : I think I found another channel which you would find more helpful , #vbox
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: you dont install ati drivers in vbox
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: in the top menu of the desktop in xp click devices -> install guest additions
[12:24] <CoUrPsE> Umm. k, I need some driver, only reason why im running it so i can play a few games.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: games will run prett badly
[12:25] <Tritaris> for some reason on my laptop the sound only comes through the headphones and not the built in speakers. is there some way to switch the output?
[12:25] <jems> what type of laptop
[12:25] <Tritaris> hp dv4-1225dx
[12:26] <jems> download the latest alsa drivers and install
[12:28] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: still can't get it to work
[12:28] <jems> Hp dvx has several issues with jaunty but I've now got every thing working
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: then i'm all out
[12:28] <Hansard_> damn it, I need your magic
[12:28] <manu_zacharia> where can i find the configuration file for ubiquity
[12:29] <Hansard_> what commands can bring up some diagnostic information?
[12:29] <Tritaris> thnx i'll give that a try
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: dmesg is good
[12:29] <archman> erUSUL: it was my screensaver that caused the screen blanking, i dunno why it changed itself...
[12:29] <CoUrPsE> ActionParsnip, Aight, well i still wanna see how it goes, I still dont have any hardware acceleration thou, :/
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: if you are using the fimware cutter, uninstall ndiswrapper
[12:29] <CoUrPsE> I did that guest additions stuff.
[12:29] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I did
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: vbox gives an api to the hardware, its not really great for gaming at all, the guest addtions will help
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> CoUrPsE: i suggest you look at wine or see if the gamemaker has released a linux installer or see if there is a loki installer for it
[12:30] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: it says that the package has been removed. But when I locate ndiswrapper there are plenty of files. Should I manually delete them?
[12:30] <CoUrPsE> Aight. Thanks ActionParsnip.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper; sudo apt-get --purge remove ndiswrapper
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: i dont think its fully removed
[12:31] <Blizzerand> I keep getting this error when I try to rezise my volume:
[12:32] <archman> my sound is muted every time when ubuntu starts. any solutions?
[12:32] <cast> don't restart
[12:32] <Hansard_> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[12:32] <karakh> lol
[12:32] <Hansard_> can't reinstall it
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> !find ndiswrapper
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: just reinstall all the ndiswrapper stuff, then use --purge when you remove it
[12:34] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I had to add -common. Got it now.
[12:34] <Hansard_> thanks Dr_Willis
[12:34] <Blizzerand> http://pastebin.com/m58acf12b
[12:34] <Blizzerand> help please
[12:36] <cast> Blizzerand: your main problem is a failure to articulate your problem in words
[12:36] <indus> cast: that paste says it all
[12:36] <indus> Blizzerand: its good enough
[12:37] <indus> Blizzerand: you could also paste a small intro message like 'stuck with lvm' partitions etc in channel
[12:37] <sea-gull> where can I find crt0.o on Ubuntu?
[12:37] <cast> indus: it's rude.
[12:37] <smooch1502> lol
[12:37] <smooch1502> hi
[12:37] <indus> cast: maybe
[12:37] <FinnTux> how to get support for sftp in quant (ubuntu 9.04)
[12:37] <smooch1502> !rules
[12:37] <Blizzerand> cast : can you please explain
[12:38] <smooch1502> !help
[12:38] <smooch1502> :) thanks ubottu
[12:38] <FinnTux> err quanta
[12:38] <[Spooky]> Is there a way to check when i installed Linux?
[12:39] <indus> check what
[12:39] <cast> Blizzerand: you're asking for help, but can't be bothered formulating a question, you did pastebin some info which is good - though no one knows what your problem is till they follow your link and open a browser, which is a bit of work - only to find out that they don't know the answer to your particular issue
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> [Spooky]: you could chec the created time of ~/.bashrc maybe
[12:40] <indus> Blizzerand: yes cast is correct, its good logic to paste a question cos just clicking a link to read the problem is a little annoying
[12:40] <cast> [Spooky]: i do a ls -l /etc|less and guess
[12:40] <indus> Blizzerand: just a tip to help you get support in the channel :)
[12:41] <Blizzerand> cast , indus: I had posted the question a few posts above . Anyway it was *I keep getting this error when I try to rezise my volume:*
[12:41] <cast> ActionParsnip: there is a creation time?
[12:42] <indus> Blizzerand: just post again once more someone might know answer
[12:42] <indus> ActionParsnip:  you know anything about lvm :)
[12:42] <cast> Blizzerand: ahh, i missed that. good ol high traffic channels :\
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> cast: not sure, you'll be looking at stuff like that
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: zero
[12:42] <cast> ActionParsnip: there is no creation time :)
[12:43] <indus> !lvm
[12:43] <Blizzerand> indus : I did . I donot quite much support triple posting
[12:43] <indus> Blizzerand: ok np
[12:43] <Hitman32> أه
[12:43] <Hitman32> Hi
[12:44] <Hitman32> guys>>
[12:44] <indus> هِعك
[12:44] <Hitman32> I need remote desktop
[12:44] <indus> .
[12:44] <Hitman32> يو يو
[12:44] <Blizzerand> arabic
[12:44] <Hitman32> program
[12:44] <FloodBot1> Hitman32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:44] <thitetejas> hello can any one help me
[12:44] <indus> !remotedesktop
[12:44] <Hitman32> I don't
[12:44] <thitetejas> pls
[12:44] <indus> Hitman32: try vnc
[12:44] <Hitman32> yes
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you can use rdesktop to connect to windows terminal services
[12:44]  * Blizzerand huggles FloodBot1
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: for what reason do you want the desktop?
[12:45] <Hitman32> to access to winXp
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ahh: sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[12:45] <Hitman32> Is Rdesktop fine
[12:45] <jems> how do i pidgin to setup yahoo chat
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !info rdesktop
[12:45] <Hitman32> Ok
[12:45] <Hitman32> let me try...
[12:46] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: is there anything in the update of the system that you think might have caused the wireless to stop working? I'm wondering if I should reinstall the system and install the b43-cutter drivers without ever installing the ndiswrapper content
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: not sure, as long as its visible in te output of: sudo lshw -C network     it should be configurable
[12:46] <jems> file:///home/jems/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[12:46] <Hitman32> E: Couldn't find package Rdesktop
[12:46] <thitetejas> can any one help me
[12:47] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: there doesn't appear to be any driver loaded now even though the b43-cutter drivers have been reinstalled and the ndiswrapper drivers have been removed. Is there any command to force those drivers to be recognised?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: you dont just install the cutter app, you need to do stuff with it to make it work. the guide outlines this
[12:47] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I tried modprobe and that didn't work.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: otherwise i cant advise any further
[12:48] <Hitman32> i thing I have it
[12:49] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I did sudo lshw -c network and it says that the wireless network controler is *-network UNCLAIMED
[12:49] <bernardlychan> hey guys i'm really sorry for bringing you guys offtopic ok?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ok then enable remote logon in windows and you can use that client
[12:50] <Hansard_> [21:47]	<ActionParsnip>	Hansard_: you dont just install the cutter app, you need to do stuff with it to make it work. the guide outlines this <--- I followed the guide to the letter. And it worked. But then I rebooted.
[12:50] <Hansard_> Not sure if it was the rebooting or the update that killed the wifi.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: then add the commands that make it work to /etc/rc.local
[12:51] <Hansard_> what commands?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: there will be one final command you run to make it work, that needs to be ran each time, so add it to the bootup
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom >  ActionParsnip
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> and ubottu is sleeping
[12:52] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:52] <Hitman32> there's any other program to remote ??
[12:52] <Hansard_> wake up ubottu!!
[12:53] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:53] <mrdjmaciek> Hitman32 ssh ?
[12:53] <Hitman32> ssh
[12:53] <Hitman32> what's that
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: you can use vnc but its pretty slow, why do you want access to the xp desktop??
[12:53] <thitetejas> hitman32 can u help me
[12:54] <greenish_blue> can some help me
[12:54] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: try: sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[12:54] <Hitman32> wiat
[12:54] <Hitman32> I wanna to play
[12:54] <Hitman32> to access only make access
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: play what?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: full 3d games will not run over vnc
[12:54] <Hansard_> FATAL: Module bcm43xx not found.
[12:55] <Hitman32> other pro..
[12:56] <greenish_blue> have any idea guys ?
[12:56] <Geezer> Hello
[12:56] <greenish_blue> I used expert mode during base installation and did sth wrong in keyboard section, now I cant jump over words using Ctrl+ (left or right )while writing commands, how do I correct this ?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 looks good
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: like what?
[12:56] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: oh it also said this WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.
[12:56] <Hitman32> any program,,, wait i'll try vnc
[12:57] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: and WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.
[12:57] <bambam_> ALL: When someone should decide to leave ubuntu and get into more core linux distros
[12:57] <padi999> How do I have to setup ctorrent behind a firewall? I forwarded port 2706 on the router but still get timeouts...
[12:57] <frogzoo> Hansard_: you need to name the file blah.conf
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: 2d apps rn fine. i dont get why you need the fulll desktop. a lot of apps have we interfaces now
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[12:58] <Hansard_> frogzoo: I'd actually prefer to get rid of it. But apt-get --purge remove didn't seem to work.
[12:58] <Hitman32> OK,, give me one
[12:58] <frogzoo> Hansard_: well sometimes you do need to blacklist a driver....
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: depends what you want to achieve.
[12:58] <Hitman32> which one i should work
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: vlc has a web interface, transmission has a web interface
[12:59] <nicknamemick> hello
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: i have no idea what you want to achieve on the remote system
[12:59] <Hitman32> wep???
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: wep is an encryption protool, not an app
[12:59] <Hansard_> frogzoo: oh sorry was talking about the ndiswrapper part
[12:59] <Hitman32> just to let my bro see my desktop
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: then vnc is perfect if you are demonstrating
[13:00] <Hitman32> or learn something
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: dont use vnc over the web though as it is not encrypted
[13:00] <Hitman32> Ok
[13:00] <coz_> ok so  adding rootdelay=40 to the defoptions in /boot/grub/menu.lst didnt work  any other options? also  I assume the 40 means seconds ... is there a table of options for seconds I can read ?
[13:00] <Hitman32> what's the matter
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: ?
[13:01] <Hitman32>  dont use vnc over the web though as it is not encrypted>>>>........
[13:01] <miguelonnnn> hi, please do you know the difference between passphrase and bit key? i thought just passphrase encodes the password, but both do. So what's the point?
[13:01] <nicknamemick> sorry guys can i ask you a question ? i've just migrated to linux , do i need to install my video driver ? ( i have an ati radeon x1550)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: there is zero security in vnc, so transmissions may be captured. all keypresses and mouse moves are sent in clear text
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !ati | nicknamemick
[13:02] <frogzoo> nicknamemick: if you have a desktop, it's probly already installed
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I tried "sudo modprobe b43" and it worked.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: if you dont require 3d accelleration then vesa is fine
[13:02] <Hitman32> it's mony :P
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: how do I add that to the boot conf file?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: ok is the wifi working?
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: yes
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: gksudo gedit /etc/modules
[13:02] <Hitman32> i mean VNC should i buy it
[13:02] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: how do I make it run that modprobe line on bootup?
[13:03] <nicknamemick> thank you
[13:03] <nicknamemick> but i see the desktop quite bigger
[13:03] <murlidhar> checking for alsa >= 1.0.15... not found
[13:03] <murlidhar> am i missing someting ?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: type: b43     in that file, then save it and close gedit
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: the ati driver will make that smaller
[13:04] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: thank you.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: reboot to test
[13:04] <nicknamemick> thank you , so how can i install it?
[13:04] <murlidhar> !ati | nicknamemick
[13:04] <murlidhar> !test
[13:04] <murlidhar> hmmm
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: the factoid tells you
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> oops
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> forgot ubottu was asleep
[13:05] <murlidhar> since when >
[13:05] <murlidhar> ?
[13:05] <nicknamemick> ActionParsnip: thanks so much , i'm sorry fot this embarassing questions
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> nicknamemick: its all new to you, you will have many
[13:06] <murlidhar> i still have :P
[13:06] <murlidhar> anyone ?
[13:06] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: works perfectly, thank you.
[13:06] <nicknamemick> ok , thanks , i'm trying to install
[13:06] <coz_> erUSUL,  any other suggestions for that rootdelay=40 ? :)
[13:06] <murlidhar> checking for alsa >= 1.0.15... not found
[13:07] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: how do we recommend to ubuntu.com that they change their help file to include a last step to add the loading of b43 to /etc/modules
[13:08] <Hansard_> oh think I've had too many wines tonight, it says it is a wiki
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: great!! erm...submit a bug i guess
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> true..
[13:11] <Hansard_> lol I love your reaction ActionParsnip, it's like an anime character... "great!! erm..."
[13:11] <[new_i]> ïðèâåò âñåì)
[13:11] <paissad-hp> is it possible to run a graphic application via ssh, and make that application continue running even the remote ssh connection is closed ?
[13:11] <bazhang> [new_i], #ubuntu-ru for russian
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:    You could use 'vnc' and sort of do that.
[13:12] <[new_i]> bazhang,÷òî?
[13:13] <bazhang> [new_i], /join #ubuntu-ru
[13:13] <ikorin> vncserver ?
[13:13] <paissad-hp> Dr_Willis, without using vnc if possible :-)
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  it has some place to show the display.. so i cant think of any way other then via vnc in its own virtual (hidden) desktop
[13:13] <paissad-hp> i did not precise that
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  Ive never seen a way to do it.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> the display has to go somewhere I guess. :)
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: you can use screen
[13:15] <paissad-hp> Dr_Willis, yes, the display has to go somewhere, but i want it to stay into the server station, so that i can continue after closing the remote ssh access
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: for gui apps, not sure though
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  you want to 'move' the display from the server to the client on the fly - you wish to say?
[13:15] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip, i've tried screen, but that works only for application limited to the console
[13:15] <paissad-hp> not graphical ones
[13:15] <[new_i]> ìåíÿ òóò ïîíèìàþò?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: what gui app areyou running?
[13:16] <bazhang> [new_i], here is English only; #ubuntu-ru for Russian please
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> I recall some app ages ago that you could 'move'  a gui app's display from one X instance to another.. but it dident work very well.
[13:16] <paissad-hp> ActionParsnip, for example firefox , just an example
[13:16] <[new_i]> ok..
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: there may be a way to tell the app to run on the local x server and not the remote one
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> paissad-hp: like move it from one to another, you'll have to dig arout to findhow
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Of course if its running on the remote end.. then how are you going to controll it if you cant see its display.
[13:17] <sean2009> hi
[13:17] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: thanks to you I got it working. And I have updated the wiki to reflect that last command to add it to the /etc/modules
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> sweet
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> that'll help oters :)
[13:18] <Hansard_> pity I can't put a footnote that you suggested that last /etc/modules line
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> xmove is a pseudo server X. It is pseudo since it does not actually do the work of a server, but instead it speaks with an existing X server.
[13:18] <sean2009> does anyone get paid to be a full time irc channel helpe..???
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !info xmove
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> I recall trying xmove ages ago.....
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> it sort of does that paissad-hp
[13:19] <[new_i]> sean2009,hi..
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> paissad-hp:  http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Allow_a_program_to_continue_after_logoff#X_move
[13:19] <sean2009> hello
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: not that i know of
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: all contributions are free and carry no sla
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> No refunds either.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:20] <sean2009> ok well i'd just like to say thanks to anyone who had ever helped someone in here
[13:20] <Hansard_> hmmm why are my propriety drivers not activated?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: everyone says you are welcome right back at you
[13:20] <sean2009> ok thanks
[13:20] <Hansard_> By 'activated' does it mean they are not running, or that I haven't 'registered' with the providers?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: you may help someday too
[13:21] <clearscreen> :)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: makes the world go around
[13:21]  * leaf-sheep pay it forward.
[13:21] <sean2009> only when i know enough to teach someone, right now iam an advanced beginner.!
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: those are drivers that cant be included on the cd for legal reasons but an app is provided to install them, thigs like video drivers are common here
[13:22] <anli_> why isnt there an upgrade script to run when I want to go from ubuntu 7.10 to the newest?
[13:22] <anli_> What is making a lot of struggle necessary
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> 7.10 - is almost 2 years old..  wosers. :0
[13:22] <clearscreen> anli_: update-manager -d
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> anli_: you cant, you need to go up through the intermediate releases
[13:23] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: I downloaded the .run ati driver from the amd website and installed it. And I went into 'hardware drivers' and it says that the driver isn't 'activated'. Same with the Broadcom B43 wireless driver that we just installed.
[13:23] <anli_> ActionParsnip: and why cannot a program do it for me?
[13:23] <kamil> Hi
[13:23] <clearscreen> anli_: update-manager ...
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> anil_: it can and does
[13:23] <anli_> clearscreen: finished with a core dump
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: ati have a config tool of their own to use
[13:23] <sean2009> i have a broadcom wireless driver, i can t get that to work either - iam using arch linux
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !arch
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !archlinux
[13:24] <clearscreen> Nobody else does either, ubottu! :D
[13:24] <miguelonnnn> i don't know about archlinux, but maybe wvdialconf will work
[13:24] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: so why didn't the ubuntu hardware drivers tool detect that ati had correctly installed the driver? bug?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: maybe the inuilt tool doesnt detect your card
[13:24] <miguelonnnn> hi, please do you know the difference between passphrase and bit key? i thought just passphrase encodes the password, but both do. So what's the point?
[13:24] <sean2009> i have arch on a laptop and iam running ubuntu on another laptop
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Hansard_: i suggest you websearch how to set it up
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Hansard_:  ati has removed many cards from their fglrx drivers. so cards that used to use fglrx may not use it now..
[13:24] <Hansard_> ActionParsnip: it detects the card, that's why it's suggesting I 'activate' the driver.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: arch is supported in #archlinux
[13:25] <sean2009> it may need some b43 firmware program
[13:25] <Hansard_> Dr_Willis: I have an HD 4800. It is included in the current propriety ati driver.
[13:25] <coz_> ok again booting dropts to initramfs   I would have to insert rootdelay=40 to the kernel stanza line in /boot/grub/menu.lst  but this only happesn with ubuntu and consistently that last two years and with scsi drives
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | sean2009
[13:25] <coz_> anyone know where this originates from?  a kernel patch?  an oversight?
[13:25] <anli_> its a mystery that an url in sources.list can result in 404, that is the same as a design flaw
[13:26] <sean2009> yes thanks ive been there done it iot doesn't work
[13:26] <sean2009> i am happy to use the ethernet port
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> anli_:  when a release gets 'so old' i belive they move the repositories to some archive server.
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> anli_:  you may need to change your sources.list to reflect that.
[13:26] <anli_> Its a shame that a user ever needs to edit that file
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> and ive no idea how old is 'old'
[13:27] <anli_> 7.10 gusty
[13:27] <sean2009> old is anything over 6months
[13:27]  * Dr_Willis would cosider 7.10 rather old.
[13:27] <coz_> anli_,  thats old
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> 2 yrs old = 4 releases since then.
[13:27] <anli_> it doesnt matter, if I need to edit a file manually, there is something that could be made better
[13:27] <thowland> anli, you might want to switch to a long-term support version
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> anli_:  thats why theres the LTS versions. Do what you want.. have a nice day
[13:28] <anli_> All I want is a smooth transition to the newest version, long-term och short-term
[13:28] <anli_> or
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> anil_: you could edit sources.list to say hardy instead of gutsy and dist-upgrade but I do NOT advise this
[13:28] <sean2009> why not just download the 9.04 iso and install like that - and back up data first
[13:28] <coz_> anli_,  well a smooth transisiton from one version to the next would be best dealt with on LTS  instead of interum versions
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> i would be suprised if that thing can sucessfully 'upgrade' to the latest release.
[13:28] <anli_> It just sounded that you advised me :)
[13:28] <sean2009> 9.10 is coming out soon
[13:29] <sean2009> i think 2 months time
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> I have enough problems upgrading from one release to the next.
[13:29] <coz_> anli_,   you could wait until 10.10  which is the next LTS I believe
[13:29] <coz_> anli_,   or install one of the previous LTS revisions  and go from there
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> anil_: i'm saying its a possibility, its just not graceful
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> One very good reason to keep /home on its own partition.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> just in case a upgrade goes ka-blam and you have to do a clean reinstall.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> anil_: i suggest you reinstall a jaunty, or wait a month for karmic to be released
[13:31] <indus> anli_: so whats the problem?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> indus: gutsy installed but isnt supported
[13:32] <sean2009> for the amount of people in the room there is little talking going on....!
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: you can listen and lurk for free
[13:33] <sean2009> ok thanks
[13:33] <indus> aah gutsy
[13:33] <indus> so what did you suggest ActionParsnip
[13:34] <indus> burn cd is good i guess
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: could edit sources.list to say hardy instead of gutsy then run dist-upgrade
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> but its a bit dodgey
[13:34] <anli_> There should be a script that changed every occurence of gutsy
[13:34] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, i remember 10 years ago going on mirc there was people talking every second . Also there was a thing called irc bombing and stuff. I'm not sure if people still do the bombing thing now though.
[13:34] <anli_> That cannot be a hard-to-write script
[13:35] <indus> ActionParsnip: no because i think that wont upgrade? hmm not sure ,i thought since gutsy is eol, that method too fails
[13:35] <Halitech> indus, change your sources to point to here old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and then update
[13:35] <indus> Halitech: hmm anli_ is the one wiwth the problem
[13:35] <indus> Halitech: thank you :)
[13:35] <anli_> Halitech: that did not seem to work for security.ubuntu.com
[13:35] <Halitech> indus, ok
[13:35] <Halitech> anli_, just comment the security one out
[13:36] <anli_> for what reason?
[13:36] <sfyn> Hi folks
[13:36] <Halitech> anli_, get the base updated and then upgrade to 8.04
[13:36] <sfyn> Got an extreme newbie question
[13:36] <hipodilski> heya guys I solved my previous ubuntu problem, however I now do experience another one
[13:36] <indus> anli_: i suggest you burn a new cd and install,but you probably have been adviced it too
[13:36] <Hansard_> I can't Activate the ATI driver with the Hardware Drivers utility. It just hangs on "Downloading and installing driver... 0%".
[13:36] <hipodilski> the acpid daemon is loading my system leaving it with idle 0%
[13:37] <sfyn> How do I access my system mails? ie the mails referred to in the sentence "You have new mail" when you log in at a tty?
[13:37] <indus> anli_: the other methods are a bit 'unofficial'
[13:37] <hipodilski> what might be causing that?
[13:37] <Halitech> Hansard_, what video card?
[13:37] <nibbler_> sfyn: type mail, or maybe mailx
[13:37] <sean2009> Im thinking of putting SELinux on ubuntu what does everyone think of selinux.?
[13:37] <Hansard_> Halitech: ATI HD4800
[13:37] <indus> ActionParsnip: does he have the option of burning new cd version?
[13:37] <Halitech> Hansard_, 9.04?
[13:37] <Hansard_> yes
[13:37] <WishingMaster> indus, ActionParsnip , i am back
[13:38] <Halitech> Hansard_, maybe try the ati driver http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English
[13:38] <Hansard_> I did
[13:38] <Hansard_> it said it installed
[13:38] <indus> WishingMaster: like you said. 'ill be back'
[13:38] <Hansard_> but I can't activate compiz because it can't find the driver
[13:38] <sean2009> wellcome back
[13:38] <Halitech> Hansard_, did you run aticonfig --initial after  you installed?
[13:38] <WishingMaster> Indus,yeah bro
[13:38] <Hansard_> no
[13:38] <Hansard_> brb I'll try that
[13:38] <WishingMaster> indus, evrything is up n running now
[13:38] <Halitech> Hansard_, try that, reboot and then see if compiz will start
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Halitech: does that need sudo?
[13:39] <indus> is it true that laptop power management is poor  compared to windows, especially windows 7?
[13:39] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, u r the man
[13:39] <Halitech> ActionParsnip, I believe it does, Hansard_ run it with sudo
[13:39] <WishingMaster> action
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: i just advised, you did it man
[13:39] <sean2009> How did the people in these rooms get so good at Linux..??? They seem to know everything
[13:40] <xqleg> 	hi, i've got problem with xampp and path to user files, how to configure it?
[13:40] <indus> sean2009: i dont know nothing
[13:40] <xqleg>   //localhost/~user/ drives to /htdocs/~user directory not to /home/user/public_html
[13:40] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i always follow ur advice and i come through all my troubles.........always
[13:40] <sean2009> ok
[13:40] <anli_> In sources.list, I changed all se.archives to old-releases and commented out every security.ubuntu.com line
[13:40] <Halitech> sean2009, comes with using it, breaking it, fixing it, wash rinse repeat :)
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: while you were getting excited about xp. i was looking at other OSes
[13:40] <anli_> then I did apt-get update
[13:40] <nibbler_> sean2009: luckily there is plenty of ppl, but moinly u learn by doing and google ;-)
[13:40] <leaf-sheep> Okay okay. I got a new netbook -- Dell Mini 10. Really nice. Wifi works but the wired is broken although it worked in the netboot installer.  What is the usual protocol for this?
[13:40] <anli_> and do-release-upgrade
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: im sure you can do tonnes in windows that i cant
[13:40] <anli_> do-release-upgrade resulted in a lot of 404:s, produced an error message and a rollback
[13:41] <sean2009> xp is a good os but i lke linux much more
[13:41] <sean2009> i play games in xp
[13:41] <sean2009> everything else is done on linux
[13:41] <leaf-sheep> sean2009: The longer you use... the more you know.  Isn't it how you know stuffs about Windows too? :)
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: some games run awesome in linux
[13:41] <indus> is windows 7 released? what cost is it
[13:41] <sean2009> not many ive tried wine
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> indus: not sure and too much
[13:42] <Halitech> indus, its still in beta and its free but will stop working in June of next year
[13:42] <indus> sean2009: well,id games
[13:42] <Hansard_> leaf-sheep: I know stuff about windows because of osmossis in my sleep.
[13:42] <indus> Halitech: aah october it comes i believe
[13:42] <leaf-sheep> sean2009: I use Xbox360/PS3/N64/PSP etc.  (Gaming consoles).
[13:42] <indus> Halitech: it said 3 gb install so i didnt install it
[13:42] <lianimator> after I telnet to my router, how do I see the list of clients?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: some devs release linux native frontends so the game runs native, doom3 does this as does unreal tournament 2004
[13:42] <sean2009> the trouble with wine is that games dont work because of the copy protection
[13:43] <Halitech> indus, could be for the actual release, I got the testing release and its supposed to work until next summer, so far not overly impressed with it
[13:43] <sean2009> ie it installls then says insert the disc
[13:43] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, is there a command to find out which drivers are most compatible with my sys and also what does dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg        do?
[13:43] <Tutunkommon> is there a problem with the apt-get servers? Specifically, security.ubuntu.com?  I can't even ping it, let alone update anything...
[13:43] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[13:43] <Hansard_> Halitech: Desktop effects could not be enabled.
[13:43] <Halitech> anli_, you might be farther ahead to get an 8.04 cd and do a fresh install
[13:43] <anli_> Halitech: is that how easy the apt system gets? :)
[13:43] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm using a computer with a SVGA output - one the secondary mirrored screen everything is fine except the mouse cursor does not show up (but does on the primary screen).  Is this a known/common problem?
[13:43] <sean2009> leaf-sheep, yes i have all those too apart from psp
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: do you mean hardware that is compatible, or the driver for your hardware?
[13:44] <Halitech> Hansard_, what does fglrxinfo give for output?
[13:44] <anli_> It would be cool with an upgrade script that cannot fail miserably
[13:44] <sean2009> i also still have my 3 amigas / amigos as i call them
[13:44] <Halitech> anli_, if you stay up to date it works well
[13:44] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, driver for my hardware
[13:44] <anli_> Halitech: but not else
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> anil_: thats normal, you just left upgrading too long so upgrading your release isnt possible
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: depends what hardware it is
[13:45] <anli_> there should be no "left upgrading too long"
[13:45] <anli_> then the package system fails
[13:45] <gossar> would this help anli_?
[13:45] <gossar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#7.10%20to%208.04%20(Gutsy%20to%20Hardy)
[13:45] <vigo> anli_: 8.04.3 is very stable.
[13:45] <Halitech> anli_, with 7.10 being eol, it makes it harder although using the old-archive it should allow you to update
[13:45] <sean2009> what books did people read to learn about linux.? or can you recommend any web sites to learn.?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> anil_: the relese you have is no longer supported or developed for so its forgotten. There is a helthy amount of time after the next release is released to make the transition
[13:46] <anli_> gossar: taking a look
[13:46] <sfyn> Any recommendations for a binary viewer?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> anil_: archlinux doenst have releases and has rolling upgrade
[13:46] <tim__b> Hi. Is there a simple way (shell) to find folders (including sub-folders) within a specified folder with the same name? (Please answer with my nick in it so i get highlighted, thanks).
[13:46] <sean2009> hex viewer
[13:46] <Halitech> sean2009, I've learned what I know by simply using the system, breaking it and learning how to fix it
[13:46] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, i want to install best compatible drivers for my graphics card.......its a intel Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[13:46] <Hansard_> Halitech: X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 135 (GLX) minor opcode of failed request: 19 (X_GLXQueryServerString) Serial number of failed request: 14 Current serial number in output stream: 14
[13:46] <anli_> ActionParsnip: even if packages are not any longer available for download, it should be no rocket science to go smoothly from one version to another
[13:46] <Tutunkommon> Has anyone else noticed a problem with the update servers?
[13:46] <Halitech> Hansard_, something is definately not right there
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: som have luck with this: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[13:47] <sean2009> Halitech, but how.! i guess some people are better than others
[13:47] <Hansard_> should I uninstall the ati driver?
[13:47] <sfyn> Tutunkommon: Could you specifiy the problem?
[13:48] <sean2009> Halitech,  you may laugh but i just recently got a grip on file permissions.!
[13:48] <Halitech> sean2009, it all depends on what you want to do, some just simply want to use it, some like myself, want to understand how the nuts and bolts work under the hood so look deeper
[13:48] <Halitech> Hansard_, I would
[13:48] <sean2009> Halitech, iam the same as you . i like to know how things work
[13:48] <Hansard_> I don't recall what the package is called, What command should I use to remove it?
[13:49] <Tutunkommon> Problem:  Trying to do an apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.28-15-server  so I can try out the VMWare player.  I am unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com or security.ubuntu.com which causes the install to fail.  I can ping google, but pinging security.ubuntu.com fails as well
[13:49] <Halitech> sean2009, then read the forums, even if you don't know an answer, follow along and see what advice is given to fix issues, eventually it will all start making sense
[13:50] <Halitech> Hansard_, do a search in synaptic for ati
[13:50] <sean2009> Hansard_, type in aptitude search ati that will list anything that starts with ati
[13:50] <Hansard_> nothing came up
[13:50] <nibbler_> Tutunkommon: maybe termporal networking problem of your isp? anyway, did you have a look at virtualbox? virtualisation without the hassle vmware will be for you with ubuntu
[13:50] <Hansard_> sean2009: ok one sec
[13:50] <Halitech> Hansard_, maybe look for fglrx as well
[13:51] <dsi2> anyone french ?
[13:51] <sfyn> Tutunkommon: I have responses from both those servers, btw.
[13:51] <hateball> !fr | dsi2
[13:51] <dsi2> ok ;) thx
[13:51] <x-flea> join #nolimit
[13:51] <sean2009> Halitech,  yes i do do that from time to time,  luckily i dont have many major problems.
[13:51] <Tutunkommon> odd.  ping isn't dropping the packets, it is just sitting there
[13:51] <sean2009> if in doubt i google it
[13:51] <Hansard_> ummm the xorg ati driver is still installed even though I installed the propriety driver.. could that be the problem?
[13:51] <Halitech> sean2009, I'm on there all the time reading
[13:52] <nibbler_> Tutunkommon: ctrl-c it, you dont get dropped packets displayed during the run
[13:52] <sean2009> ok if there's too much listed you could try --> aptitude search ati | more
[13:52] <Tutunkommon> right.  I was just letting it sit to see if it snapped out of it at some point.
[13:52] <sfyn> Tutunkommon: I just you try a traceroute, and see where your connection is being dropped
[13:52] <sean2009> then press spacebar to scroil
[13:52] <jems> does transmission bittorrent ever really work?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Tutunkommon: does: sudo apt-get update    help
[13:52] <sean2009> press q to quit
[13:52] <Tutunkommon> heh.  146 packets x-mit, 0 rcv
[13:53] <gartral> what presentation programs are availible out of repos?
[13:53] <gartral> jems: workd fine here
[13:53] <Hansard_> sean2009: that command came up with heaps of things. One of which was the xorg ati driver. Should I remove that to stop it conflicting with the propriety driver?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> gartral: presntation in open office
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> gartral: define "presentation"
[13:54] <sean2009> Hansard_, i can't advise you on that. can someone else help Hansard
[13:54] <gartral> ActionParsnip: AKA PowerPoint
[13:54] <sean2009> Hansard_, i'm a beginner also
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> gartral: all i know is presentation in openoffice
[13:55] <Tutunkommon> Hilight: Nope...  That hangs up too
[13:55] <gartral> ActionParsnip: i have 3 PP documents that someone asked me too look at..
[13:55] <vigo> I just did sudo aptitude update , worked a little funny, but worked, then sudo aptitude upgrade, flawless, v9.04 or something.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> gartral: you may be ale to run some form of powerpoint viewerin wine
[13:55] <Halitech> gartral, open office should open them
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> gartral: i dont use powerpoint so only know the openoffice app
[13:56] <gartral> Halitech: thanks.. i use OOo maybe once every two months
[13:56] <sean2009> Hansard_, you could try to remove the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver if that doesn't work then install it again.  But someone needs to verify that. I don't want to mess up your computer.!!
[13:56] <Tutunkommon> hrm.  Tracert wasn't real informative.  Plenty of * * * entries, thought I did get through Atlanta and over to London
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> gartral: i use abiword, the rest of OOo i dont use so is a massive bloat to me
[13:56] <Halitech> gartral, I don't use it much either but a friend sends me PPS files as jokes alot and they always open
[13:56] <Tutunkommon> From South Carolina, USA
[13:57] <jems> After two sleepless nights jaunty finally fully functional in hp dv3
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> jems: wtg :D
[13:57] <frogzoo> \O/
[13:57] <sean2009> jems, what is hp dv3.?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> jems: now backp the system so it is easily restorable
[13:57] <vigo> !backup
[13:57] <jems> how do I do that?
[13:57] <sfyn> Tutunkommon: OK, what IP does archive.ubuntu.com resolve to for you?
[13:57] <gartral> ActionParsnip Halitech meh. the bloat has literally 0.00003% impact on 4tb of space.. >>
[13:57] <frogzoo> people take backups o.O
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> jems: see above or partimage
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> gartral: then why not just install all the apps in the repos?
[13:58] <Tutunkommon> sfyn: 91.189.88.40
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> frogzoo: every 6 hours for data here, yes
[13:58] <gartral> ActionParsnip: because there are apps in the repos that dont mix well?
[13:58] <Tutunkommon> That is us.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:58] <Halitech> gartral, I don't have quite that much space ~L~
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> gartral: they'll all play nice
[13:59] <gartral> ActionParsnip: installing the ATI drivers and NVIDIA drivers will end badly..
[13:59] <sfyn> Tut: Have you tried connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com? (May I call you tut)
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> gartral: not if its defnied in xorg.conf
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> gartral: thing is, just because you can doesnt mean you have to
[14:00] <Tutunkommon> I will give that a shot.  ugh..  pointy-haired boss.  I will have to mess with this later.  Thanks for the suggestions!
[14:00] <sean2009> Hansard_, see the comment above from gartral
[14:01] <gartral> i'll keep my system as i like it..how it is
[14:01] <lucazade> hi.. how can i create a python launcher in alacarte?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> lucazade: py <script name>
[14:02] <kelemengabor_> Hi everybody
[14:02] <sean2009> kelemengabor_, hello
[14:02] <kelemengabor_> Yeah, that is a penguinfucking night
[14:02] <Hansard_> To uninstall the ATI driver 1. Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the /usr/share/fglrx folder. <--- I don't have a /usr/share/fglrx folder????
[14:02] <jems> backup looks harder than everything else I've done so far...and I've done alot.
[14:02] <Hansard_> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8.html#179310
[14:02] <kelemengabor_> sean2009 aloha brotha
[14:03] <Pici> !language | kelemengabor_
[14:03] <frogzoo> apt-get is refusing to upgrade my python - any way to find what dependency is holding it back?
[14:03] <sean2009> kelemengabor_, hi, where are you from.?
[14:03] <kelemengabor_> I am come from Hungary brotha
[14:03] <Mrokii> hello. I guess my question is something that isn't possible, but who knows... Anyway, is there a way to make Ubuntu only run single instances of applications? Like OS X does?
[14:03] <sean2009> kelemengabor_, i get hungry myself somethimes
[14:04] <kelemengabor_> Pici brotha kiss sweetie
[14:04] <sean2009> times
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: some apps have that built in (like vlc)
[14:04] <Pici> kelemengabor_: This is a support channel, please try to keep your discussion on-topic. #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[14:04] <lucazade> ActionParsnip python script.py doesn't work, also trying open in a terminal
[14:04] <kelemengabor_> Pici brotha: okay
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> lucazade: is it not py?
[14:04] <kelemengabor_> Just I need to try under attack in my new spam and troll bot
[14:05] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip:  not really. If I have opened one vlc and open another movie via the context-menu with vlc, it opens a second instance, as it seems, instead of using the one that is already open.
[14:05] <sean2009> lucazade, in a terminal type ./pythonscript.py
[14:05] <kelemengabor_> it is works good and fine already:D
[14:05] <lucazade> ActionParsnip py command not found
[14:05] <ghostlines> shouldn't ifconfig also display
[14:05] <ghostlines> wireless cards
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> lucazade: my mistake
[14:05] <sean2009> lucazade, in the same directory of course
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ghostlines: yes
[14:05] <frogzoo> ghostlines: it does...
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ghostlines: if the device is driverd correctly, yes
[14:06] <frogzoo> ghostlines: you might try ifconfig -a
[14:06] <sean2009> ghostlines, type lspci
[14:06] <lucazade> sean if i need to launch from another dir?
[14:06] <lucazade> full path?
[14:07] <sean2009> lucazade, erm.. did you try -> /the/full/path/pythonscript.py  ?
[14:07] <ghostlines> I'm seeing it when i run ifconfig -a
[14:07] <lucazade> sean2009 in the terminal it works
[14:07] <lucazade> but not from launcher
[14:08] <sean2009> lucazade, i have the same problem running frets on f ire . the only way for me to run it is to go to the directory
[14:08] <ghostlines> thanks and i saw my wireless card previously when i ran lspci
[14:08] <lucazade> sean2009... ok i'm trying to make a launcher for pymt
[14:08] <sean2009> lucazade,  perhaps a --> ln -s /path/ path will work ?
[14:09] <sean2009> then type in the link into the laucher?
[14:09] <lucazade> going to try
[14:10] <sean2009> lucazade,  try to put the link in the PATH direcory. eg /usr/bin . If it doesn't work, then perhap someone else can help
[14:11] <John_Dande_Sawye> ?
[14:11] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, u there?
[14:11] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, pls give me the link again for video drivers that u gave me earlier
[14:11] <sean2009> hes having tea and biscuits
[14:12] <jems> how do I configure pidgin for yahoo chat
[14:12] <WishingMaster> sean2009, who ActionParsnip ?
[14:12] <jems> ^^yahoo chat rooms
[14:12] <sean2009> WishingMaster, you could scroll up
[14:12] <indus> jems: go to add accounts
[14:12] <indus> jems: add yahoo user name but not the full user name, just before the @
[14:13] <sean2009> WishingMaster, yes, its meant as a gag. no harm meant
[14:13] <albarg> hello
[14:13] <sean2009> WishingMaster, he's probably just gone to the toilet or something
[14:13] <WishingMaster> sean2009, i am logged in a diffrent account so i can't see the recent history between me and ActionParsnip
[14:13] <albarg> please i want your help
[14:13] <sean2009> i expect he'll be back soon
[14:14] <Pici> !ask | albarg
[14:14] <WishingMaster> sean2009, could you pls scroll up and give me the link
[14:14] <sean2009> WishingMaster, ok, i may be able to scroll up
[14:14] <WishingMaster> sean2009, thanks bro
[14:14] <sean2009> WishingMaster, ok hold on i'll see if i can find it
[14:14] <albarg> i have a problem with flashplayer and shockwave
[14:15] <sean2009> ok
[14:15] <sean2009> WishingMaster,  hereit is -->
[14:15] <sean2009> http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[14:15] <sean2009> was that it.?
[14:15] <frogzoo> albarg: you've installed flashplugin-nonfree ?
[14:15] <skapism> I installed my ubuntu from scratch, and when I want to add xfce4 and gdm, it pulls in the entire gnome packages for gdm. can I install gdm on ubuntu without gnome?
[14:16] <albarg> for example paltalk express web site doesnt open
[14:16] <kelemengabor_> HeavY TRoLLz AttKK WaRNing_!
[14:16] <frogzoo> albarg: link?
[14:16] <kelemengabor_> TUKS Must Die!
[14:16] <leaf-sheep> skapism: the 'g' in gdm stands for gnome
[14:16] <kelemengabor_> I am da TUKSKILLAH
[14:16] <frogzoo> oh noes - not a trollz attakk
[14:16] <kelemengabor_> frogzoo kiss my brotha
[14:16] <skapism> leaf-sheep: I'm actually running xubuntu here, with gdm, and it doesn't have gnome installed
[14:17] <skapism> it's for the other computer
[14:17] <sean2009> what is gdm.?
[14:17] <indus> sean2009: gnome display manager
[14:17] <sean2009> gnome desktop manager.?
[14:17] <bulletxt> if I have a file like /sbin/tuncfg, can I know what is the package name that installed tuncfg?
[14:17] <sean2009> indus,  ok thanks
[14:18] <WishingMaster> sean2009, thanks man.........see u later
[14:18] <sean2009> WishingMaster, ok bye
[14:18] <sean2009> indus, i use mostly blackbox - on arch and gnome on ubuntu
[14:19] <shyam_k`> sean2009: did you use gnome or see the desktop in ubuntu? gdm is the thing that manages that desktop session..
[14:19] <sean2009> indus, so is gdm gnome or is it something different.?
[14:19] <jems> thanks, yahoo chat is working....is it possible to enter yahoo chatrooms
[14:19] <indus> sean2009: gnome is the whole environment , the packages everything around the linux kernel
[14:19] <sean2009> shyam_k`, ok thanks i didn't know i thought that was nautilus
[14:19] <indus> sean2009: gd m is part of it
[14:19] <lucazade> sean2009, exporting path or ln -s didn't work, i've created a sh script to launch it
[14:20] <sean2009> lucazade, ok sorry i couldn't help
[14:20] <skapism> I was just wondering how it's in xubuntu
[14:20] <sean2009> indus, ok thanks for telling me
[14:20] <frogzoo> bullgard4: dpkg -S tuncfg
[14:20] <skapism> does ubuntu have all the gnome dependencies because of gdm? sounds unreasonable to me
[14:20] <skapism> xubuntu*
[14:20] <gau> trying to get iphone to tether to laptop though ky-bt100 usb dongle, using blueman; i can pair the phone trust it and connect fine the problem comes when i tell blueman to use the iphone as a network access point, it says it is successful, network gets the new interface bnep0 and can manage it but never gets any further than that, chkecking daemon.log  says activation (bnep0) failed deactiving device reason:0 if i try it manually dhclient do
[14:20] <gau> es not find any addy and times out; tried searching the net most say blueman just works but not for me any got a point for where to look for the problem?
[14:20] <shyam_k`> sean2009: manages in terms of more like loading and unloading those sessions.. as you prolly has seen blackbox may not require a gdm to work..
[14:20] <skapism> xubuntu has many gtk dependencies, but they try not to use too many gnome libraries, so far as I understand it
[14:21] <skapism> shyam_k`: this has nothing to do with blackbox, you can start gnome from the command line too
[14:21] <skapism> shyam_k`: gdm just logs you in graphically
[14:22] <sean2009> shyam_k`, yes, i use it because it's light weight , also i managed to configure it  ie set my own backdrop and change the menu fonts to larger and add stuff to menu
[14:22] <shyam_k`> skapism: yeah thats what i tried to say.. as he said he uses blackbox i just said an example. it may not use gdm..
[14:22] <sean2009> skapism, is gdm a type of getty thing .?
[14:23] <shyam_k`> sean2009: as skapism its more like a login app there is also kdm, and even you can use gdm to login to a blackbox session.
[14:23] <shyam_k`> *as skapism said...
[14:23] <Halitech> there is alos Slim
[14:24] <sean2009> on arch linux i made a script that basically says--> xinit /usr/bin/blackbox it starts up that way
[14:24] <sean2009> shyam_k`, ok thanks for telling me
[14:24] <shyam_k`> yeah instead if you want a pretty screen that lets you choose your session or what ever, you can get that with gdm
[14:25] <sean2009> shyam_k`, i bought the cheapest laptop i could find and installed arch linux on it.
[14:25] <jems> thanks, yahoo chat is working....is it possible to enter yahoo chatrooms
[14:25] <sean2009> shyam_k`, i cant run the wireless driver so i use the ethernet port
[14:26] <shyam_k`> sean2009: you could check the latest kernels to get the driver working which is your card?
[14:26] <sean2009> broadcom
[14:26] <sean2009> ive tried the 43 firware thing
[14:26] <sean2009> it didnt work
[14:26] <sean2009> b43 firmware
[14:27] <shyam_k`> broadcom is notorious;-) you could see the hardware list at fsf.org
[14:27] <sean2009> shyam_k`, im not too bothered though as i know if i put a live cd of ubuntu it finds the driver / wifi card no problem
[14:28] <shyam_k`> hmm..
[14:28] <sean2009> shyam_k`, plus i bought it to learn linux on, therefore i chose the hardest version of linux
[14:28] <sean2009> to learn on
[14:28] <sean2009> Ubuntu is my main OS on another laptop
[14:29] <shyam_k`> yeah its cool to try the source based distros too.
[14:30] <Night_Elf> Hi. I was wondering, does the Ubuntu live-cd have the sshd bundled? I mean, is it possible to remotely access a system running a live-cd ?
[14:30] <shyam_k`> quite often, i can ping to my home router but i can't ping anything outside. I can telnet to my home router and then it can ping to external sites. How can i trouble shoot it?
[14:30] <sean2009> shyam_k`,  yes like slackware - but i dont want to spend 10 days compiling when arch has its own software repos like ubuntu has
[14:30] <leaf-sheep> Night_Elf: No. You can just install the package 'openssh-server' and start using it right away.
[14:31] <leaf-sheep> Night_Elf: Might have to do "sudo passwd" too -- to create a root password.
[14:31] <Night_Elf> leaf-sheep: and if it asks for any upgrades during that ?
[14:31] <shyam_k`> leaf-sheep: Night_Elf but just to make an ssh session with a remote system you may not need openssh-server right?
[14:31] <Pici> leaf-sheep, Night_Elf: no, sudo doesnt require a password on the livecd
[14:31] <sean2009> Night_Elf,  dont upgrade as they get stored in memory i think
[14:32] <sean2009> on the live cd
[14:32] <Night_Elf> sean2009: that's what I was thinking
[14:32] <leaf-sheep> Night_Elf: What are you trying to accomplish?  Everytime you run it, it'll ask for upgrades, you might as well ignore it.
[14:32] <leaf-sheep> Pici: What is the password for ubuntu account on LiveCD?  ubuntu or is it randomly generated?
[14:32] <Night_Elf> sean2009: leaf-sheep: My friend has a trouble and has asked me for some help. His system won't boot and he has a livecd handy
[14:33] <Pici> leaf-sheep: I don't recall what it is off the top of my head. Sorry, Probably best to create a new user and go from there.
[14:33] <sean2009> Night_Elf,  why not buy a flash drive and install a distro onto that for the ssh
[14:33] <leaf-sheep> Pici: I'm not sure either. :P
[14:33] <shyam_k`> how can i trouble shoot the connection between router and laptop? the router can ping external sites but laptop can't. I can't see how can i proceed :(
[14:33] <sean2009> Night_Elf, i use RIP or partition magic
[14:33] <Night_Elf> sean2009: I think it's a matter of time. He just phoned me about it.
[14:33] <sean2009> for recovery
[14:34] <shyam_k`> !network
[14:34] <sean2009> Night_Elf,  in fact you can use any live cd and then go from there to edit startup files
[14:34] <leaf-sheep> Night_Elf: You can tell your buddy to just pop in the disc ; sudo aptitude install openssh-server ; and have him reset/create account/make new root password/etc so you can ssh in.
[14:34] <Night_Elf> sean2009: for some reason his raid setup won't work anymore, he says one of the disks is dead and I wanted to try any recovery remotely.
[14:35] <sean2009> Night_Elf, i dont know the answer to that sorry
[14:35] <Night_Elf> leaf-sheep: I'll have him try that.
[14:36] <frogzoo> mmm raid should still work with a disk out...
[14:36] <sean2009> I use just a basic one disk system laptop
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> frogzoo: by definaition ;) it has redundancy (hence why raid-0 isnt true raid)
[14:36] <pacopil> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[14:39] <unk2k> Hello all. what it is ? => http://www.pentod.ru/humor.html
[14:39] <sean2009> does anyone know of a program to play those .SWF game files that you find? some of those games are pretty good, but i don't want to redownload everything when i want to play a game or have to be online to play it.
[14:40] <sean2009> unk2k, i dont know
[14:40] <Pici> unk2k: Its a link to something in russian, what does this have to do with Ubuntu support?
[14:40] <sean2009> its probably some trojan virus link
[14:40] <FirstSgt> is there a way to "reset" my panel layout back to default (gnome/ubuntu 9.04)
[14:41] <Pici> !resetpanels | FirstSgt sure
[14:41] <FirstSgt> Pici: wow.
[14:41] <sean2009> ubottu, you typed the answer faster than he typed the question.!
[14:41] <grawity> sean2009: ubottu is a bot.
[14:42] <Spike1506> how much programming knowledge does someone need to become a ubuntu developer?
[14:42] <sean2009> ok that explains it
[14:42] <grawity> sean2009: No signs of any trojans there. Just a couple of anecdotes in Russian.
[14:42] <FirstSgt> Pici: it worked!
[14:42] <sean2009> Spike1506, none if you send in artwork
[14:42] <Pici> FirstSgt: yay
[14:43] <sean2009> grawity, ok thanks for telling me. I am always cautious of the russian links
[14:43] <FirstSgt> Any way to make it run faster on my slow laptops (I convert 100% to ubuntu).
[14:43] <FirstSgt> i'd like it to run as quickly as my windows 2000 (or win98se) did at the time.
[14:43] <Spike1506> sean2009, im not good with artwork, im more a java developer :P
[14:43] <FirstSgt> should I use something other than gnome for a faster desktop with ubuntu?
[14:44] <^Nannie^> ---H--E--L--L--O-----A--L--L--!--!--!--!---
[14:44] <Halitech> FirstSgt, you could look at XFCE or LXDE
[14:44] <FirstSgt> Halitech: XFCE is old school :) i'll try it.
[14:44] <FirstSgt> never heard of LXDE
[14:44] <sean2009> Spike1506, ok, just send in whatever. iam sure you will have some thing good to contribute
[14:45] <Halitech> FirstSgt, I've been using XFCE for 2 years now and I love it, LXDE is fairly new but its available for 9.04 in the repo and other versions in download from their website
[14:45] <sean2009> Spike1506, myself, i dont know anything about programming, and i can't draw either.!
[14:46] <FirstSgt> Halitech: very cool.  all i need is a terminal window and a browser
[14:46] <Halitech> FirstSgt, just do a minimal install and add xorg and a browser
[14:46] <FirstSgt> preferablly semi-transparent so i can see firebug on the browser behind ;)
[14:47] <sean2009> FiReSTaRT,  yes i like the basic look aswell
[14:47] <sean2009> KDE takes up too much memory and resources - on my pc anyway
[14:47] <FirstSgt> sean2009: it does on my old laptops as well.
[14:47] <sean2009> snap
[14:48] <FiReSTaRT> sean2009: yeah, the basic look is half-decent :D
[14:48] <FirstSgt> sean2009: and im not going to throw away a laptop that is 3 years old.  i feel like i would be throwing an infant in the garbage can :P
[14:48] <sean2009> FiReSTaRT, i have limited memory so i use blackbox
[14:49] <heatmzzr> a .tar.bz2 file, how do I properly extract it sso things go where they are supposed to?
[14:49] <sean2009> FiReSTaRT, i agree, i don't like to throw things away that work either
[14:49] <FiReSTaRT> sean2009: you may wanna double-check your use of tab.. i think you're talking to FirstSgt :P
[14:49] <kwork> 3 years old laptop is decent router with built in ups :P
[14:49] <sean2009> heatmzzr,  try tar jxvf filename
[14:49] <shos> Hello, I was wondering since the Ctrl+Alt+BackSpace doesn't make the x-server to crash like older gnome versions... How do I get the x-server to crash and the Ubuntu (JAunty amd64) to throw me into a shell?
[14:50] <Pici> !dontzap | shos
[14:50] <kwork> Shoe,  ctrl + alt + f1 to get the first shell
[14:50] <sean2009> FiReSTaRT, LOL,  i even some times go to google and start to type then press TAB . hehe
[14:50] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:51] <sean2009> FiReSTaRT, although iam still a beginner i do like to learn linux
[14:51] <sean2009> and what better way than the basics. ie no GUI
[14:51] <sean2009> and 720x400 resolution
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: use gui, just use the system. You will learn
[14:51] <kwork> theres nothing basic in no gui :P
[14:51] <FiReSTaRT> sean2009: well ubuntu's the easy way to go about it.. just about everything's idiot-proof.. i only use the shell when i have no other choice :)
[14:51] <Halitech> shos, if you just need a terminal, why not hit CTRL + ALT + F2
[14:52] <frogzoo> !docs | sean2009
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> FiReSTaRT: shell always here
[14:52] <sean2009> FiReSTaRT, i use ubuntu because as the MAC people say - it just works.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: i use it due to price, and the fact that any OS gives me what I want so why pay
[14:52] <Pici> A reminder that Ubuntu is for support issues only, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.
[14:53] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, yes i have 7 computers here i have lots of choices to learn howe i operate linux etc
[14:53] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, same here.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> sean2009: keep it support question related :D
[14:53] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, and nothing is better than free open source software
[14:53] <shos> Pici, kwork, Halitech : thanks you
[14:54] <FiReSTaRT> ActionParsnip: once i figured out my way around it (partially thanks to you lol), i almost completely stopped using the shell other than for installing packages/drivers and starting up my bot :)
[14:54] <sean2009> ActionParsnip, sorry, i got carried away
[14:54] <kwork> Shoe,  the x is in tty 7 if you didnot find it
[14:54]  * FiReSTaRT puts a zipper on the fingers and eagerly awaits support questions :)
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> FiReSTaRT: if it works for you then use it
[14:54] <shos> cool, i didn't, just exited, thanks again
[14:55] <sean2009> ActionParsnip,  have you heard of someone called sidney lambe? he's a die hard anti GUI geek
[14:55] <Pici> !ot | sean2009
[14:55] <Abhinav1> when I am trying "sudo apt-get install debootstrap" it giving me that it is not available ? what to do?
[14:55] <sean2009> yes sorry
[14:56] <FiReSTaRT> actually i might as well come up with a support question.. does anyone run a usb-only HP printer with an aftermarket (non-jetdirect) print server?
[14:56] <grawity> Abhinav1: What is the exact error message you get?
[14:56] <FiReSTaRT> Abhinav1: try searching for it in synaptic, you might be misspelling the name of the package
[14:56] <sean2009> FiReSTaRT, no not me
[14:57] <Abhinav1> FiReSTaRT: may be the source list is missing something
[14:57] <slayerboyLAP> are the ubuntu repos down?
[14:57] <sean2009> try a sudo apt-get update
[14:57] <rabby> hi
[14:57] <Abhinav1> I have tried it before that time it worked well
[14:57] <kwork> slayerboyLAP, ubuntu has loads of repo mirrors
[14:57] <Sidewinder1> !hi | rabby>
[14:58] <FiReSTaRT> Abhinav1: actually kwork has a good possible solution.. try changing the mirror
[14:58] <kwork> just lately our regional mirror was down for week :(
[14:58] <slayerboyLAP> kwork, ok i'll try that....think it's the main canonical mirror that I was using
[14:58] <kwork> now i accuired 1tb drive to make my ownr mirror
[14:58] <FiReSTaRT> Abhinav1: if you're sure you didn't misspell the package name
[14:58] <Abhinav1>  FiReSTaRT: Yah
[14:59] <sean2009> did you try aptitude search that always works better for me
[14:59] <slayton> does anybody know if its possible to sync evolution calendars across 2 machines without using google calendar?
[15:00] <rick__> hay
[15:00] <nvn> bcb
[15:00] <rick__> how are ya
[15:00] <rabby> i worry about my system lagging with ubuntu very worse :-(
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> !hi | rick__>
[15:00] <rick__> the mine are do it very nice with x ubuntyu
[15:00] <Axz> Guys any idea why does terminal stucks at "99% [Connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.45)" when do apt-get update
[15:00] <rabby> only firefox eats some cpu and i always have to wait, just see http://rabuser.homeip.net/test/leck.png
[15:00] <kwork> rabby, use lightweight windowmanager, like fluxbox
[15:00] <sean2009> slayton, a basic solution would be to copy tthe files onto a flash drive
[15:01] <slayton> sean2009, not really a solution b/c that would require me to copy the files every time I make a change on one of the two computers
[15:01] <rabby> kwork: i like the gnome and with gentoo it always was very fluent and fast...
[15:01] <kwork> rabby maybe something wrong with your gfx drivers, it shouldnot look like that at all
[15:01] <FiReSTaRT> rabby: i can hear my fan go on every time FF starts giving me the memory leak crap.. just open system monitor and close the npviewer.bin process
[15:01] <rabby> kwork: the system has 2GB ram and a dual core 4200+ athlon...
[15:01] <slayton> rabby, try using a program like htop to see what is slowing down your system
[15:01] <rick__> xD can some people help me :
[15:01] <sean2009> slayton, ok
[15:01] <slayton> sean2009, thanks though
[15:02] <rick__> at windows i had 2 harddisk : C and D and now i have 1 but the "D" doenst work
[15:02] <rabby> slayton: is there a kind of benchmark tool which can tell me what is missing? or is htop the right for me already?
[15:02] <FiReSTaRT> rabby: ff will keep working and the memory leak will stop... also install ff 3.5, it reduces the number of memory leak occurrences
[15:02] <slayton> rabby, htop will tell you what process are running, how much ram and cpu time they are using
[15:02] <Halitech> slayton, are the machines networked? you could try putting the data file on 1 and point both machines to the same data file
[15:02] <kwork> never used that htop, but seems more fancy then normal top :P
[15:03] <rabby> FiReSTaRT, slayton: i hope it is not because of twin view with the 2 monitors...
[15:03] <slayton> Halitech, unfortuneatly they aren't but I can access one machine over ssh
[15:03] <rabby> but with gentoo it rocked all the time, even with older ff
[15:03] <kwork> rabby : prolly something somewhere is killing the system, because i have even worse machine and it works like a charm
[15:03] <Halitech> slayton, hmmm, not sure if you could mount the drive with ssh and have it work or not
[15:03] <FiReSTaRT> rabby: i never had any issues with running 2 monitors (configured with the nvidia xserver settings)
[15:03] <icarus> where are all the icons stored in ubuntu?
[15:04] <abhilashm86> i need to connect ubuntu 8.10 laptop to projector screen,its an HP laptop, can anyone tell how to do this? are there any functional keys to do this
[15:04] <slayton> icarus, depends
[15:04] <kwork> rabby and im on kde, what is more resoruces hungry
[15:04] <abhilashm86> i want to see display both on laptop and projector screen
[15:04] <FiReSTaRT> rabby: but i have developed browser memory leak issues.. the worst one comes from opera (almost 100% of a core almost every time), more sporadic and less severe from ff, non-existent with the developer version of chrome)
[15:04] <rabby> kwork: so i have good chance to get it fixed
[15:04] <icarus> slayton, could you give me a hint :)
[15:05] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: you installed the nvidia drivers?
[15:05] <slayton> icarus, it depends on what icons,
[15:05] <Halitech> icarus, /usr/share/icons I believe
[15:05] <abhilashm86> FireStart: compiz and others work fine, drivers are well fine
[15:05] <larmeh> hi there
[15:06] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: hook up to the screen, open nvidia xserver settings, go to x server display configuration, click on detect displays, select the projector display and configure the resolution/location
[15:06] <abhilashm86> FireStart: how to setup projector?
[15:06] <stealth-> anyone know how to stop cryptsetup from asking for password on boot?
[15:06] <FiReSTaRT> and click on apply :P
[15:06] <icarus> Halitech, so /usr/share/icons contains all the icons?
[15:06] <rabby> ok, htop says: X with 10-60% cpu; pulseaudio 1-10% and firefox between 10 and 90% cpu although only googlemail is opened
[15:06]  * FiReSTaRT brb coffee #2
[15:07] <Halitech> icarus, thats the default I believe, you could have some in ~/.icons as well
[15:07] <abhilashm86> FireStart: if i do once, will it work, if i restart what will happen??
[15:07] <FiReSTaRT> rabby: system, administration, system monitor, end the npviewer.bin process
[15:07] <sean2009> stealth-, perhaps to edit the configuration file or uninstall.?? sorry i dont know
[15:07] <grawity> Halitech: Or /usr/local/share/icons, and ~/.local/share/icons
[15:07] <rabby> FiReSTaRT: is not started
[15:07] <rabby> FiReSTaRT: i tried already. only nm-applet
[15:07] <AnxiousNut> what is the lightest debian based linux distribution?
[15:07] <Halitech> grawity, guess it might depend on the version
[15:07] <stealth-> sean2009: if you dont know, why answer me? .....
[15:07] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: chances are you'll need to reconfigure it unless you save the config.. i just do it manually every time as it's quick and easy
[15:07] <W4gn3r> Does anyone know hot to solve the problem with ubiquity
[15:07] <Halitech> AnxiousNut, dsl
[15:07] <grawity> Halitech: No, it depends on where you put the icons
[15:08] <W4gn3r> *ubiquity install
[15:08] <sean2009> stealth-, to try to help iam sorry i tried
[15:08] <W4gn3r> crashes at 79%
[15:08] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86, rabby, hang on a sec i'll be right back :)
[15:08] <larmeh> i've got trouble mounting my luks encrypted LVM volume. i can see it using "lvs" and the size etc. is correct. however there is no device file in /dev/<volume_group> for it and thus i can't mount it. any ideas what is wrong?
[15:08] <AnxiousNut> is there any other choices?
[15:08] <stealth-> sean2009: its np, just next time just answer a question if your sure you can help :)
[15:08] <W4gn3r> UserSetupApply error
[15:08] <sean2009> ok
[15:08] <abhilashm86> FireStart: ok fine:) can you tell how to install Nvidia x server settings
[15:08] <grawity> Halitech: All distros follow the filesystem hierarchy standard, with /usr/share and /usr/local/share
[15:08] <grawity> Halitech: (except GoboLinux)
[15:09] <benkong2> anyone having trouble with us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[15:09] <stealth-> Gobolinux fail
[15:09] <icarus> Halitech, your awesome and before i go is your name a reffrence to tommy boy http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114694/
[15:09] <xover> can someone help me with nomachine nx?
[15:10] <Halitech> grawity, ok, just seen some differences between debian and ubuntu
[15:10] <sirGuest> After I start a torrent it remains idle for a long time. Around 6-10 hours (I went to sleep at 12 after clicking DL woke up at 6 checked it went back to sleep and woke up at 10 and its working now). What would cause this? How do I make them start faster?
[15:10] <xover> i cannot get authorsation
[15:10] <Halitech> icarus, nope, combination of where I live and being a tech
[15:10] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: try system, administration, hardware drivers.. if you have an nvidia chipset, you should be able to select it and have the drivers installed.. easy gui
[15:10] <icarus> Halitech, ok thank
[15:11] <slayerboyLAP> sirGuest, it depends on how many seeds and peers the particular torrent has on the tracker, as long as you are connected there's not much you can do
[15:11] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: one caveat.. it hangs on me and looks like it crashed, so i just let it camp for about 15min, "cancel" the install and when i re-try it, it shows that it has been installed.. just a jockey bug
[15:11] <Halitech> AnxiousNut, you can search here http://distrowatch.com/search.php
[15:12] <sirGuest> There were plenty of seeds. I was trying to DL some OS's and those are always very rapid.
[15:12] <abhilashm86> FireStart: hey actually that laptop has'nt nvidia graphics card, its intel motherboard, is Nvidia compulsory for this display on projector?
[15:12] <slayerboyLAP> sirGuest, this channel is for ubuntu support, torrents aren't really an ubuntu issue, sorry man :(
[15:12] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: no.. but you should have a display configuration tool under system, administration
[15:13] <sean2009> Just to let everyone know  - the latest 2.6.3x.x kernel & nvidia xxxxxpkg.run (from nvidia website) don't work together.
[15:13] <abhilashm86> FireStart: are there any other display configrations tools?
[15:13] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: i am rocking an hp-dv9894ca and it has the nvidia chipset.. not sure how you configure it or what it's called for that matter
[15:13] <rabby> FiReSTaRT: i will brb. give me some minutes to upgrade to the newest ff and test this, too...
[15:13] <Lartza_> What audio output and mixer does ubuntu use by default?
[15:14] <abhilashm86> what if i do like this, boot windows, there F8 wil work with projector, then restart and use ubuntu.........
[15:14] <sirGuest> I assumed it was for ubuntu and the software ran on it
[15:14] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: try under the system, administration menu and see if there is anything about displays, graphics etc etc etc
[15:14] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: why if you haven't even tried configuring it in ubuntu?
[15:14] <slayerboyLAP> sirGuest, maybe check to see if you have some kind of firewall installed or port blocking on your router
[15:15] <FiReSTaRT> rabby: it's not in the official repos.. you'll have to either install a prepackaged deb or compile from source.. i just used the deb
[15:15] <abhilashm86> FireStart: actaully i'm helping my freind, we are having ubuntu demo in college:) so now doing things.......
[15:15] <sirGuest> slayerboyLAP: Its a new issue that does not change based on location
[15:16] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: i know but why try it from windows if you still haven't tried setting it up in ubuntu? lol
[15:16] <abhilashm86> FireStart: ha ha, no i'm keeping last option, pls don't mind!!
[15:17] <PolitikerNEU> Hello everyone, I have a problem with audacity: Whenver I open my project, all controls disable - what can I do to avoid this?
[15:17] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: no problem with that.. but first TRY configuring it in ubuntu.. for that you need to start the configuration tool for the intel chipset :)
[15:18] <sean2009> PolitikerNEU,  hallo und hertzlich welkommen.!
[15:18] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: hang on i'll be back in 5-10min
[15:19] <PolitikerNEU> sean2009: Hallo, aber ich habe die Frage bewusst in Englisch gestellt :-)
[15:19] <sean2009> PolitikerNEU, ja ich weiss. tut mir leid. ich habe keine ahnung.!
[15:19] <abhilashm86> FireStart: ok, i've called my friend also to irc:)
[15:21] <Lartza_> How do I use music player daemon?
[15:21] <Lartza_> And mpc?
[15:21] <sean2009> Lartza_, do you mean a normal media player? like vlc or the like.?
[15:21] <Lartza_> What??
[15:22] <sean2009> are you trying to play music?
[15:22] <Lartza_> Yes with mpd
[15:22] <Lartza_> Music Player Daemon
[15:22] <sean2009> ok, just now it was mpc
[15:22] <Lartza_> Both
[15:23] <Lartza_> mpc is Music Player Client right?
[15:23] <Lartza_> FOr controlling the daemon
[15:23] <sean2009> i have no idea
[15:23] <sean2009> i thought you mistyped and meant mp3
[15:24] <K3rl0u4rn> hello, I have accidently removed a partition with fdisk on my harddrive that I would to restore
[15:24] <Lartza_> YOu already applied it??
[15:24] <Lartza_> On fdisk
[15:24] <K3rl0u4rn> yep
[15:25] <sean2009> K3rl0u4rn, if you wrote the changes then theres a good chance its all been deleted
[15:25] <K3rl0u4rn> wouldn't ask :)
[15:25] <axel_s> hi, how can I start that network setup flow again, that I got during installation?
[15:25] <Lartza_> Format or not?
[15:25] <Lartza_> K3rl0u4rn: DId fdisk format or just make the changes?
[15:25] <K3rl0u4rn> no, fdisk does not format anything, just removes the partition from the partition table
[15:25] <Lartza_> Oh right I got confused
[15:25] <smooth_penguin> anyone here use an Acer Aspire One D250 netbook?
[15:26] <Lartza_> It might be possible if you don't format but I'm not sure how
[15:26] <K3rl0u4rn> I should be able to make it come back if I can create a new one exactly on the same blocks
[15:26] <K3rl0u4rn> I did that in the past
[15:26] <Lartza_> Good luck on that ;)
[15:26] <sean2009> smooth_penguin,  yes i have an acer aspire one but its the 150aw version
[15:26] <smooth_penguin> sean2009,
[15:26] <K3rl0u4rn> my problem is that I initially created the partition with gparted
[15:26] <smooth_penguin> whats the PCI ID
[15:27] <jrib> Lartza_: just install it (it's in the repositories), add some music to the right directory (check /etc/mpd.conf), add some music to the playlist (you should probably use ncmpc or some other client), and then use mpc to start, stop, play etc...
[15:27] <K3rl0u4rn> and the partition did not start at an exact cylinder
[15:27] <sean2009> smooth_penguin, I dont know its not turned on at the moment
[15:27] <K3rl0u4rn> I'm not sure that gparted would not format if I try with it
[15:27] <K3rl0u4rn> and I can't find a way to enter the exact block value with fdisk
[15:27] <smooth_penguin> sean2009, oh ok did you get the ethernet working
[15:28] <sean2009> smooth_penguin, yes  i have #! installed on it
[15:28] <xrfang> hi there could anyone recommend a cross platform (windows linux) email (pop3, pop3s, imap etc) downloader that works similar to wget?
[15:28] <sean2009> smooth_penguin, #! = cruchbang = ubuntu with out bells and whistles
[15:28] <sean2009> smooth_penguin,  wireless card works out the box
[15:28] <smooth_penguin> sean2009, I have it running on gentoo
[15:28] <abhilashm86> FireStart: i've called my friend also to irc, now hoe to see his graphics card, he has enabled propritery softwares in software sources
[15:29] <sean2009> ok
[15:29] <smooth_penguin> just not the ethernet
[15:29] <john345> ker.com
[15:29] <abhilashm86> FireStart: you there?
[15:29] <smooth_penguin> the interface comes up but is borked
[15:29] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: am now.. had to go to the can :)
[15:29] <sean2009> smooth_penguin,  ok, well mine works. maybe your ethernet card is broken
[15:30] <smooth_penguin> sean2009, it works on windows
[15:30] <smooth_penguin> http://pastebin.com/d1c33db47
[15:30] <Ben64> I've got hardy heron, tried to be able to control my cpu frequency manually, instead of just ondemand and performance, and now it's stuck at 1000mhz, whats up?
[15:30] <FiReSTaRT> does anyone know what the gui configuration tool for those running intel proprietary drivers is called?
[15:30] <goldins> why would connecting to archive.ubuntu.com stall at "99%" ?
[15:30] <abhilashm86> FireStart: ok. i've my friend now, how to see graphics card is there or what? he's telling no graphics card in HP laptop
[15:30] <goldins> ah
[15:30] <goldins> never mind
[15:30] <sean2009> smooth_penguin,  type in this -->>   dmesg | grep eth | less
[15:30] <sean2009> see if it detects it
[15:30] <goldins> (I swear it was sitting there for a good 5 minutes, but now it's moving)
[15:31] <sean2009> or lspci
[15:31] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: there better be one or he can't see anything on his screen.. tell him to run system, administration, hardware drivers and tell us what's installed and what's available (usually only 1-2 drivers)
[15:31] <smooth_penguin> sean2009, it does
[15:31] <smooth_penguin> sean2009, its even using the right kernel driver
[15:32] <sean2009> smooth_penguin, ok , perhaps someone else can help you from here on.
[15:32] <smooth_penguin> ok
[15:32] <sean2009> as iam just about to leave
[15:32] <Qvintvs> is there a command a simple command like time to check the memory usage of a program
[15:32] <sean2009> bye everyone.
[15:33] <genii> Qvintvs: top -p <pid-of-app>        might be informative
[15:33] <rabby> FiReSTaRT: after updating firefox with ubuntuzilla, ff is < 10% cpu. i will try it for a day and give feedback soon.
[15:33] <rabby> thanks to the helpers!
[15:33] <Reactor> Can somebody help me with samba server?
[15:33] <Qvintvs> genii: is that for programs that are constantly running? I'm looking to try and monitor the total memory usage of commands that are running for <10 secs
[15:34] <ganeshpaidtsfi> No proprietary drivers are in use.....
[15:34] <FiReSTaRT> rabby: good to hear.. it should also reduce the memory leak frequency.. as i said, my biggest issue was the npviewer bin process.. if you see it taking up like 15+% of resources, end it :)
[15:34] <lash9420> So I just fired ubuntu for the first time. I am currently running it live off the disc. I am really unsure of what to do next. I want to install it. I go through the menus, until I get to the partion manager. I MUST KEEP MY WINDOWS partition. How do I edit these so I can??
[15:34] <abhilashm86> FireStart: Ganeshpaidtsfi: he is my friend and his laptop
[15:34] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: you're abhilashm86's friend?
[15:34] <Cpudan80> lash9420: did you defrag your computer?
[15:35] <ganeshpaidtsfi> Yup, n its my first time in irc
[15:35] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: ok, so you're running on open drivers... go to system, administration and check if there is an option to configure graphics
[15:35] <thiebaude> lash9420, you the side by side option
[15:35] <vipin> u can install ubuntu using wubi @ lash
[15:35] <rabby> FiReSTaRT: i am not sure, but i think i replaced this npviewer bin and fixed it a month ago to find out if flash was the reason for mem hog
[15:35] <Cpudan80> lash9420: well - back up -- are you going to install Ubuntu/Windows on the same physical hard drive?
[15:35] <lash9420> Cpudan80: No I didn't....you mean in Windows right?
[15:35] <Ben64> I've got hardy heron, tried to be able to control my cpu frequency manually, instead of just ondemand and performance, and now it's stuck at 1000mhz, whats up?
[15:35] <Cpudan80> lash9420: yes
[15:35] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: actually go to system, preferences, display
[15:35] <ganeshpaidtsfi> I don find any options for graphics
[15:35] <Mitsurugi> hi all
[15:35] <Cpudan80> lash9420: Although, as vipin said, you could use wubi and install Ubuntu directly in windows
[15:36] <Cpudan80> lash9420: you could also use a Virtual Machine in windows
[15:36] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: once you plug in the projector, click on Detect Monitors and then configure it :)
[15:36] <abhilashm86> FireStart: Detect monitors, where is that option?
[15:36] <DareDevil0> Hi you there?
[15:36] <lash9420> Cpudan80 I've tried Wubi before. It hasn't worked (? not sure exactly waht the problem has been) And I want a permanent install.
[15:36] <Mitsurugi> when i have a message like: "usb 1-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 19" means that my usb hard disk is rebooting?
[15:36] <abhilashm86> FireStart: now no projector, we'l try tomorow
[15:36] <Reactor> Help me smb plz
[15:36] <ganeshpaidtsfi> Firestart: K,thanx, wil see to it...
[15:37] <DareDevil0> I need a software to create pictures presentation for a DVD Player
[15:37] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: next to Mirror Screens :)
[15:37] <Mitsurugi> DareDevil0, mistelix
[15:37] <Cpudan80> lash9420:  A virtual machine would be a sane way to go if you're really worried about partitioning
[15:37] <Mitsurugi> oh fuck,
[15:37] <ikorin> Reactor: repeat your question
[15:37] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86, ganeshpaidtsfi ok good luck.. but that should allow you to set up the extra display :)
[15:37] <Pici> Mitsurugi: Please mind your language here.
[15:37] <DareDevil0> Mitsurugi, jajajaja, i am looking for more options
[15:37] <lash9420> Cpudan80, Won't that be a lot slower?
[15:37] <Reactor> I have some problems with my Samba server
[15:37] <Cpudan80> lash9420: But - if you want to partition, you MUST defrag windows prior to installation
[15:37] <Mitsurugi> Pici, what's the problem?
[15:37] <thiebaude> !language | Mitsurugi
[15:37] <Cpudan80> lash9420: depends on your system specs, what are they ?
[15:37] <slayton> DareDevil0,use devede to burn the dvd you'll have to use another program to make the video file
[15:37] <abhilashm86> FireStart: oh thanks a lot:) we'l try and any problem we'l come again
[15:38] <ikorin> Reactor: what si wrong with it??
[15:38] <AlexisM> Hello, I have some problem using Orca with accentuated characters. Does anyone uses Orca or know where I could get some help about it ?
[15:38] <lash9420> Cpudan80, Amd Turion X2 (64) 200gb HDD. 3gb ram
[15:38] <Cpudan80> lash9420: good grief - a VM would work fine
[15:38] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: i don't think there will be any.. sorry i mislead you in the first place, but with nvidia proprietary drivers, i use a different config tool.. fortunately yours is simpler to use :P
[15:38] <Reactor> ikorin: Network users can't get guest access
[15:38] <lash9420> Cpudan80, Why dont I just use Wubi then?
[15:39] <thiebaude> !wubi
[15:39] <ikorin> Reactor: do you edit samba.conf ?
[15:39] <Mitsurugi> when i have a message like: "usb 1-2: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 19" means that my usb hard disk is rebooting?
[15:39] <Cpudan80> lash9420: you could ... but a VM is the only sure fire way to make sure nothing blows up
[15:39] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86, ganeshpaidtsfi you guys can still play around with it by plugging in a monitor or a tv just to test it and learn the ropes :)
[15:39] <Reactor> ikorin: yh
[15:39] <Cpudan80> lash9420: what do you want to do in Ubuntu is probably a better question
[15:39] <lash9420> Cpudan80 Hmmm......I mean. I want to use this as my primary operating system.
[15:39] <Cpudan80> oh
[15:39] <Qvintvs> no ideas on the memory usage thing? I'm trying to see which of two of my algorithms are more memory efficent (well, I know which one is more efficient, but I'm trying to find out by how much)
[15:39] <Reactor> ikorin: If you mean /etc/samba/smb.conf
[15:40] <Cpudan80> well in that case - you'd need to partition / install
[15:40] <vipin> lash, i think vm will slow down ur system, its better u use wubi to install ubuntu, u can try latest version of ubuntu if u having some problems in installing with wubi
[15:40] <lash9420> Cpudan80But I will still need use  windows.
[15:40] <ikorin> Reactor: yep, i think you should google the example conf for this
[15:40] <ph33r> hi, I got some problem after upgrading to the new kernel in 9.04, 1] the conky appears on top of all windows 2] the windows drives do not show up in the desktop, I have to click (mount) them in nautilus and then it appears 3] the wireless card doesnt work, have to type in the commands to detect n scan for wireless; driver wl, any ideas what's going wrong ?
[15:40] <Reactor> ikorin: I tried
[15:40] <Cpudan80> lash9420: You can resize your windows partition
[15:40] <lash9420> Vipin, okay. So Wubi it is?
[15:40] <Speaker-to-Compu> well that's wierd.  When I plug my headphones in halfway, I get the expected half audio, but when I plug them in all the way, I get no audio.  This only happens under Ubuntu; there is no problem when I boot Windows.
[15:40] <lash9420> Cpudan80 How?
[15:40] <ganeshpaidtsfi> Firestart: How do i detect other monitors on ubuntu.... I'm new to it
[15:41] <ganeshpaidtsfi> i donno about displays
[15:41] <Cpudan80> lash9420: if you have vista you can do that from within windows, otherwise you can use the tool on the install disk
[15:41] <cocoa117> is the stricky bit only work for other user? "chmod u=rwx,g=rwxt,o= test2" always give me drwxrwx---. i thought it supports to be drwxrwt---
[15:41] <ikorin> Reactor: or maybe someone have it in this channel
[15:41] <lash9420> Cpudan80 Which I'm quite confused with
[15:41] <Reactor> ikorin: ?
[15:41] <Cpudan80> lash9420: well first you need to make sure you defrag ... then you go into the installer and move the sliders around to get the right partition sizes
[15:41] <lash9420> Cpudan80 In windows or ubuntu?
[15:41] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: system, preferences, display
[15:42] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: then you click on detect monitors
[15:42] <Cpudan80> lash9420: Do you have Vista?
[15:42] <lash9420> Cpudan80 Yes
[15:42] <ikorin> Reactor: wait a minute ill check my config
[15:42] <Speaker-to-Compu> well that's wierd.  When I plug my headphones in halfway, I get the expected half audio, but when I plug them in all the way, I get no audio.  This only happens under Ubuntu; there is no problem when I boot Windows.
[15:42] <Cpudan80> lash9420: then just resize the partition using vista's tool (##windows for that)
[15:42] <ganeshpaidtsfi> I don hav dat option, dats why i,m stuck.....
[15:42] <lash9420> Cpudan80 Okay thanks!!
[15:42] <Cpudan80> np
[15:42] <ganeshpaidtsfi> Firestart:I don hav dat option, dats why i,m stuck.....
[15:42] <abhilashm86> FireStart: yes even in my computor its not there, there is no option in system->preferences->displays
[15:42] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: you don't have "Display" under system, preferences?
[15:43] <ikorin> Reactor: usershare allow guests = yes
[15:43] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi, abhilashm86 hang on i'll look it up :)
[15:43] <abhilashm86> Firestart: in ubuntu 8.10 its not there, need to instal display?
[15:43] <ikorin> Reactor: do you have this param?
[15:43] <abhilashm86> Firestart: ok fine :)
[15:43] <Reactor> ikorin: idk
[15:43] <ganeshpaidtsfi> Firestart:No..... I'm using ubuntu 8.10 for ur info....
[15:44] <Reactor> ikorin: wait plz
[15:44] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86, ganeshpaidtsfi press alt F2, enter gnome-display-properties and run that command
[15:44] <Reactor> ikorin: [global] section?
[15:44] <ikorin> Reactor: yes
[15:45] <ikorin> Reactor: uncomment?
[15:45] <Reactor> ikorin: I 'll try to find it
[15:45] <abhilashm86> Firestart: yes now its working!! whats next
[15:45] <ganeshpaidtsfi> Firestart: I've a detect displays option, is that the one...?
[15:45] <ikorin> Reactor: maybe u should write it
[15:45] <Pici> cocoa117: chmod doesnt expect to see user or group names, you have o=test2 there, that should be one or more of rwxXst instead.
[15:45] <fufu> hey guys, im having trouble with flash.. Right now on my computer I have the flash-installer and flashnonfree installed. Youtube, works but other sites such as myplaylist.com their flash content doesnt pop up? How can I solve this problem?
[15:46] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi, abhilashm86 yep, that's the one :)
[15:46] <Reactor> ikorin: Is the "usershare allow guests" are name of a param?
[15:46] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi, abhilashm86 you can have it permanently on the desktop by right-clicking on the desktop, clicking  on create launcher
[15:46] <fufu> I have shockwave flash enabled as a add-on
[15:47] <ganeshpaidtsfi> Firestart:K, thanx for the help, wil cul8r if i find more problems...
[15:47] <abhilashm86> Firestart: ok, if i click on detect display, nothing happens,
[15:47] <FiReSTaRT> ganeshpaidtsfi: deal, good luck :)
[15:47] <ikorin> Reactor: yes
[15:47] <abhilashm86> if i connect to projector and then run this, will it show two screens?
[15:47] <Reactor> ikorin: ok
[15:47] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: do you have any additional displays like a projector, a tv or a monitor plugged into your computer (in addition to the monitor you're already using)?
[15:47] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: yes
[15:47] <craCkpot> does anyone have any problems installing software with synaptic/aptitude? seeming like it isn't connecting?
[15:48] <ikorin> Reactor: add this to: usershare owner only = False
[15:48] <Reactor> ikorin: ok
[15:48] <Milos_SD> Is there a way to get rtkit on jaunty?
[15:48] <fufu> cracKpot I tried aptitude yesterday to install LAMP it worked fine
[15:48] <abhilashm86> Firestart: ok, now i got the point, we'l try this tomorow and let u know:) thanks a lot, have a nice day!!
[15:48] <K3rl0u4rn> Lartza_: testdisk did the work for me, quick scan, found & restore the deleted partition, took 2 mns
[15:48] <Reactor> ikorin: I'll try to restart samba now and test
[15:48] <craCkpot> no no i mean today
[15:48] <K3rl0u4rn> Lartza_: this software is amazing !
[15:48] <craCkpot> was working fine earlier this morning
[15:48] <fufu> cracKpot make sure you are root
[15:49] <craCkpot> ...
[15:49] <FiReSTaRT> abhilashm86: you're welcome.. have a good one as well :) ciao
[15:49] <sheepdog> Is anyone here familiar with getting ubuntu up and running on a mac pro?
[15:49] <thiebaude> !mac
[15:49] <craCkpot> when i try to fresh the repos it won't refresh
[15:49] <thiebaude> wrong one
[15:49] <Lartza_> K3rl0u4r, Great! :)
[15:49] <Ben64> how can i stop certain things from starting up on boot-up?
[15:50] <Lartza_> And I got mpd to work ;)
[15:50] <Lartza_> Command-line music, ahhh...
[15:50] <craCkpot> tried installing fluxbox, icewm, and svn and none of them will install...it just sits there when it tries to download the packages
[15:50] <Lartza_> craCkpot: COnnect to internet?
[15:50] <craCkpot> really?
[15:50] <Lartza_> What country repos are you using?
[15:50] <craCkpot> i am on the machine right now
[15:51] <craCkpot> obviously im connected to internet, everything else such as browser and the like are working normally
[15:51] <Lartza_> What mirror?
[15:51] <ChaosR> how do you stop a program that wont even stop when killed with -s9 ?
[15:51] <Lartza_> ChaosR: killall?
[15:51] <Lartza_> craCkpot: What mirror?
[15:51] <ChaosR> Lartza_: doesnt work either
[15:51] <joeb3_> ChaosR, kill -9 pid#
[15:52] <ChaosR> joeb3_: -s9 doesnt work
[15:52] <Lartza_> ChaosR: Program or process is what?
[15:52] <ChaosR> Lartza_: skype
[15:52] <fufu> How come flash works for some sites but not others? e.g. flash works on youtube but not on sites like playlist.com.. ?
[15:52] <Lartza_> cracCkpot: What mirror are you using??
[15:52] <Lartza_> ChaosR: Interesting...
[15:53] <Lartza_> With sudo?
[15:53] <craCkpot> i am using the default ubuntu repos
[15:53] <ChaosR> Lartza_: I thought so
[15:53] <craCkpot> brb gonna try restarting
[15:53] <ChaosR> Lartza_: already tried that too
[15:53] <Lartza_> craCkpot: You sure?
[15:53] <Lartza_> Are you sure skype is running? :P
[15:53] <craCkpot> ...
[15:53] <thiebaude> sheepdog, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[15:53] <ChaosR> ps -A says so
[15:53] <Ben64> how can i stop certain things from starting up on boot-up? :(
[15:53] <Lartza_> craCkpot: What?
[15:53] <thiebaude> sheepdog, hope that helps
[15:53] <ChaosR> plus, I can't login because skype says its still running
[15:54] <Lartza_> ChaosR: Skype won't start or you can't login?
[15:54] <ChaosR> it starts, but gives the error: another instance is running, login failed
[15:54] <fufu> skype reserves port 80 , so maybe it has something to do with that
[15:54] <Reactor> ikorin: now guest access is available but windows clients return msg like they "There isn't enough rights"
[15:54] <fufu> disable port 80 for skype
[15:54] <ChaosR> how can a program not stop when send a KILL
[15:54] <grawity> ChaosR: You cannot.
[15:55] <grawity> *It
[15:55] <ikorin> Reactor: hmm.. one sec
[15:55] <ChaosR> grawity: obviously it does
[15:55] <Chousuke> ChaosR: it's a zombie then.
[15:55] <grawity> ChaosR: The process is killed, unless it's in the middle of I/O or something.
[15:55] <ChaosR> grawity: program is still alive, lets try some other signals
[15:55] <fufu> chaosR try xkill
[15:55] <Lartza_> grawity: New skype instance detects it
[15:55] <Lartza_> fuf: It's popably not visible
[15:56] <grawity> ChaosR: But many programs use things such as "lock files". For example, you run Skype, it creates a lockfile in its profile directory.
[15:56] <Chousuke> ChaosR: if kill -9 does not kill a process, nothing will :)
[15:56] <Lartza_> fufu: ANd killall didin't work
[15:56] <Lartza_> Yea just restart maybe?
[15:56] <ChaosR> grawity: its in top and ps
[15:56] <ikorin> Reactor: do u have: map to guiest = bad user?
[15:56] <ChaosR> I guess this is the first time in my whole live a error will be solved by a reboot on linux
[15:56] <grawity> ChaosR: If, after SIGKILL, a process is still running, it's either a) a zombie ('Z' in ps aux), or b) in deep sleep ('D' in ps aux)
[15:56] <ikorin> Reactor: *guest
[15:56] <ChaosR> and only by said reboot
[15:56] <Reactor> ikorin: ?
[15:57] <fufu> linux is not perfect
[15:57] <DareDevil0> Mitsurugi, you were right is a good software
[15:57] <fufu> sometimes u gotta reboot
[15:57] <Lartza_> fufu: But compared to windows... you can't compare
[15:57] <ikorin> Reactor: put this param to conf
[15:57] <Reactor> ikorin: kk
[15:57] <DareDevil0> Mitsurugi, i am using it and is pretty simple
[15:57] <Lartza_> windows reboots itself also and not only when needed so :S
[15:57] <Lartza_> Linux beats it still
[15:57] <Reactor> ikorin: to the [global] too?
[15:58] <DareDevil0> Lartza_, uufffff W the guy how can not be named
[15:58] <ikorin> Reactor: yep
[15:58] <fufu> the internet browsers under ubuntu is weaker than windows though.
[15:58] <Reactor> ikorin: testing...
[15:58] <ChaosR> wow
[15:58] <Lartza_> DareDevil0: what?
[15:58] <Lartza_> fufu: How is that?
[15:58] <Lartza_> Firefox, the same
[15:58] <DareDevil0> DareDevil0, W comes from the dark lands of Moco$oft
[15:58] <ChaosR> this must be something big, ps -AF and psaux crash when called
[15:58] <Ben64> Hello? ¿Hola? Ni-Hao? Ohayo?....how can i stop certain things from starting up on boot-up?
[15:58] <ChaosR> they just deadlock
[15:59] <fufu> my flash doesnt work properly for firefox
[15:59] <Mitsurugi> great DareDevil0!
[15:59] <Lartza_> Ben64: Session or system-wide starup items?
[15:59] <fufu> it works for youtube but doesnt work on other flash sites
[15:59] <Ben64> Lartza_: they start before i get a login screen
[15:59] <fufu> such as hulu
[15:59] <Lartza_> Ben64: So system-wide rc
[15:59] <ChaosR> question, how can ps aux stop at the exact pid before the crashed skype
[15:59] <DareDevil0> fufu, what do you do with firefox and a flash?
[15:59] <thiebaude> fufu, you have a 64bit computer?
[15:59] <ChaosR> what causes such a thing
[15:59] <Ben64> Lartza_: sure, where do i find and disable them
[15:59] <Lartza_> Ben64: sysv-rc-conf, but be REALLY careful with that
[16:00] <Lartza_> YOu need to isntall that
[16:00] <Lartza_> *install
[16:00] <fufu> DareDevil i want to watch videos..
[16:00] <DareDevil0> fufu, but firefox is a browser not a video player
[16:00] <fufu> thiebaude how can i find out what bits my computer is running?
[16:00] <Lartza_> Ben64: be careful when browsing and when switching windows(mouse can mess with the crosses)
[16:00] <Lartza_> fufu: I have no problem with flash, you use adobe or some free alternative?
[16:00] <ChaosR> does noone know how ps aux stops loading? what causes that?
[16:00] <Ben64> Lartza_: what crosses?
[16:01] <Lartza_> Ben64: You will see, runlevel configurations
[16:01] <Lartza_> On what rc the process starts
[16:01] <ChaosR> anyways, rebooty time, thanks for your help :)
[16:01] <craCkpot> this is what it says when i do "sudo apt-get update" Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.88.37), connection timed out
[16:01] <craCkpot> it says that for all ubuntu repos
[16:01] <Lartza_> Ben64: Just be really careful and only touch the programs you can be sure won't harm closing
[16:01] <fufu> lartza_: yesterday i installed flashplugin-installer, i had problems with flash, then i read i had to install flashnonfree, so I did that, but youtube only works, others sites dont work such as hulu
[16:01] <alkw> anyway to see a list of available packages?
[16:02] <Ben64> Lartza_: ooh its all text based
[16:02] <Lartza_> craCkpot: And so you installed english ubuntu I am assuming you have gb.archive.ubuntu.com?
[16:02] <x[x]> hey whats the kernel on the latest ubuntu release?
[16:02] <Lartza_> BEn64: I don't remember the graphical program to do it
[16:02] <rsk> x[x]: 2.6.28-15-generic
[16:02] <Lartza_> Ben64: THere is one
[16:02] <craCkpot> its us.archive.ubuntu.com
[16:02] <x[x]> shit
[16:02] <x[x]> thanks rsk
[16:02] <rsk> no profanity please
[16:03] <Ben64> Lartza_: nah its fine, i'm mostly a power user
[16:03] <x[x]> sorr
[16:03] <x[x]> sorry*
[16:03] <Ben64> except i'm trying to learn the "right" ways to do things now on ubuntu
[16:03] <Ben64> instead of hacking everything :)
[16:03] <Laacis> s
[16:03] <Lartza_> craCkpot: hmm... I can access security and us from finland
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[16:03] <jems> how-do-I-get-yahoo-chatroom-to -work-in pidgin
[16:03] <Lartza_> Ben64: Well sysv-rc-conf is the right way
[16:03] <Reactor> ikorin: ok, windows can now get my shares' list but can't get access into them.
[16:03] <Laacis> mu.gamefor.lv
[16:03] <craCkpot> i'm not sure what's going on
[16:04] <Laacis> d
[16:04] <Laacis> mu
[16:04] <Laacis> gamefor
[16:04] <Laacis> .
[16:04] <Ben64> Lartza_: looks like it, very nice
[16:04] <FloodBot1> Laacis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:04] <Laacis> lv
[16:04] <Pici> Laacis: Please stop, this is a support channel.
[16:04] <craCkpot> they were working fine earlier this morning
[16:04] <ikorin> Reactor: tweak chmod
[16:04] <Lartza_> craCkpot: Can you access the repositories with browser?
[16:04] <jems> how-do-I-get-yahoo-chatroom-to-work-in pidgin
[16:04] <Laacis> what ?
[16:04] <Lartza_> jems: Use space and not - also WAIT!
[16:04] <LuYu> is anybody on here using the latest version of skype
[16:04] <Reactor> ikorin: to 777?
[16:04] <Laacis> hello,anybody playing Mu-online ?
[16:04] <fufu> lartza_: right now I have flashpluginnonfree and flashplugin-installer enabled in my Synaptic and I have Shockwave flash enabled in my browser... is there a conflict or something?
[16:04] <Lartza_> LuYu: THere is no latest for linux, well latest for linux is 2. something
[16:05] <craCkpot> no it times out as well
[16:05] <ikorin> Reactor: try all )
[16:05] <LuYu> i mean the latest one for linux
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[16:05] <FloodBot1> Laacis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:05] <Ben64> Lartza_: hey, it's got the runlevels on the top.. 1-5,0,6 and S.. what's S?
[16:05] <LuYu> in the former versions, switching audio devices was easy
[16:05] <Lartza_> LuYu: It sucks
[16:05] <LuYu> but in the new package, it seems to be locked to pulse
[16:05] <Reactor> ikorin: ok, testing...
[16:06] <Lartza_> fufu: adobe-flashplugin maybe?
[16:06] <Lartza_> Remove the others fufu
[16:06] <Laacis> HTTP://MU.GAMEFOR.LV BET MUONLINE EVER!
[16:06] <Ben64> fufu: what cpu do you have?
[16:06] <Laacis> HTTP://MU.GAMEFOR.LV BET MUONLINE EVER!
[16:06] <FloodBot1> Laacis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <Ben64> !ops | Laacis
[16:07] <Laacis> HTTP://MU.GAMEFOR.LV BET MUONLINE EVER! ......
[16:07] <craCkpot> gb.archive.ubuntu.com works
[16:07] <Ben64> wow, fast
[16:07] <Lartza_> Thank you operators :)
[16:07] <craCkpot> in a browser that is
[16:07] <DBO> Ben64, just happened to be bored in class :P
[16:08] <xerxas> Hi all
[16:08] <xerxas> I want to remotely install java6-sun-jre
[16:08] <SuperRoach> Hello there - could someone recommend a guide to install unr on a netbook that has win7 still on it, for a side by side boot? Currently, I cannot choose a side by side install because of an error about "Windows Dynamic disk"
[16:08] <c03> hi
[16:08] <xerxas> but I can't because of the DLJ license
[16:08] <c03> I have trouble running starcraft
[16:08] <c03> it lags
[16:08] <skapism> how can I emulate a x86-64 cpu in qemu?
[16:08] <c03> Can anyone help me?
[16:08] <xerxas> anyone with a solution ?
[16:09] <TheLinuxMoron> Anyone know where the bass/ treble adjustments are with in the speakers for sound? I have master, mic, front, master, ect. but I can't find how to adjust bass/treble
[16:09] <Pici> c03: Best to ask in #winehq
[16:09] <c03> k, thx
[16:09] <craCkpot> this doesn't make any sense
[16:09] <Ben64> fufu: open a terminal, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i model" and paste the line with your cpu listed
[16:10] <fufu> hey im using AMD Turion 64x2
[16:10] <Ben64> fufu: cool, then you should be using flash 10 for 64bit
[16:11] <TheLinuxMoron> anyone?
[16:11] <Lartza_> Ben64: NOT!
[16:11] <Ben64> Lartza_: whaa?
[16:11] <Lartza_> He needs to have 64bit operating system too... *facepalm*
[16:11] <fufu> thanks ben i will try and double check
[16:11] <Ben64> :o
[16:11] <Lartza_> A REAL poweruser Ben...
[16:11] <Lartza_> fufu: No
[16:11] <Ben64> well who has a 64bit cpu and 32bit os? :S
[16:11] <TheLinuxMoron> Does anyone know how to adjust bass/treble within the sound? I have no options for it
[16:12] <Lartza_> Ben64: Me
[16:12] <Reactor> ikorin: WIndows wks can't open my dir
[16:12] <Ben64> why
[16:12] <Lartza_> No use using 64
[16:12] <Ben64> fufu: hey, paste "uname -a" in here
[16:12] <Racha> Hello
[16:12] <Ben64> 64 > 32
[16:12] <Lartza_> Well it was my old computer and it had windows
[16:12] <Lartza_> What?
[16:12] <fufu> uname?
[16:12] <rsk> Ben64: That math is correct.
[16:13] <Ben64> fufu: yeah, in a terminal, type "uname -a"
[16:13] <rsk> Ben64: 64 is truly a higher number than 32.
[16:13] <Racha> Any1 can help me please ? i have Windows ... and i just completed Install inside Windows ... but there is no Boot menu when i reboot my computer ... ?
[16:13] <Ben64> rsk: indeed it is
[16:13] <fufu> Linux sai-laptop 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 18:40:08 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:13] <Ben64> oh snap
[16:13] <miguelonnnn> chi, please do you know the difference between passphrase and bit key? i thought just passphrase encodes the password, but both do. So what's the point?
[16:13] <Racha> If any1 can help me please PM me
[16:13] <Lartza_> Ben64: My motehrboard had 2gb ram limitation so no use for 64
[16:13] <goddard> what does this error mean "Check for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables"
[16:13] <thiebaude> !grub | Racha
[16:13] <Ben64> Lartza_: 64bit does more than just give you access to ram
[16:13] <Lartza_> goddard: No error
[16:14] <Racha> !grub
[16:14] <goddard> what is that then
[16:14] <alkw> how can i know what packages are available ?
[16:14] <Racha> ?
[16:14] <Lartza_> Well like one useful in windows?
[16:14] <Lartza_> goddard. What is says
[16:14] <Lartza_> goddard: It is checking faulty tables on the database
[16:14] <alkw> how can i know what packages are available on interner
[16:14] <Lartza_> alkw: What do you mean?
[16:14] <Lartza_> And wait alkw, wait
[16:14] <craCkpot> archive.ubuntu.com does not work either
[16:14] <craCkpot> what the heck is going on...
[16:15] <ph33r> hi, in my 9.04, the wl do not load automatically at start, how to automatically load at start up ?
[16:15] <Lartza_> craCkpot: Any internet setting tunes you have there? Own DNS or something?
[16:15] <ikorin> Reactor: chmod parent folder?
[16:15] <goddard> what upgrade needs to be performed?
[16:15] <craCkpot> nope
[16:15] <Lartza_> goddard: What?
[16:15] <Reactor> ikorin: no I chmoded a share
[16:15] <craCkpot> as i said earlier it was working earlier this morning
[16:15] <Lartza_> goddard: You are fine, it's not a error only a startup check
[16:15] <Racha> So please if any1 can help me with boot menu Private Message me ... Ok ? :)
[16:15] <Ben64> hmm.... do they have flash10 for 32bit now?
[16:15] <alkw> Lartza_: if i want to know if there is a package call "solr" , what is the command ?
[16:16] <ikorin> Reactor: do you use gui samba share?
[16:16] <Reactor> ikorin: no
[16:16] <craCkpot> guess ill try to switch over to wireless
[16:16] <fccf> !pm | Racha
[16:16] <ikorin> Reactor: try it )
[16:16] <Lartza_> alkw: Umm... what? Where do you need that info?
[16:16] <Reactor> ikorin: I tried
[16:16] <alkw> Lartza_: on ubuntu server
[16:16] <Lartza_> alkw: WHy do you want that info?
[16:16] <ikorin> Reactor: what did you tried?
[16:16] <Racha> Any1 can help me please ? i have Windows ... and i just completed Install inside Windows ... but there is no Boot menu when i reboot my computer ... ? maybe its because i didnt installed it on C where is my windows ?
[16:17] <Reactor> ikorin: to use gui
[16:17] <Lartza_> alkw: It's in your mirror, some subfolders below
[16:17] <alkw> Lartza_: i remember there is a package for solr-tomcat intergration already, but i just dont remember the name, because I want to install it
[16:17] <Lartza_> Racha: YOu installed windows after ubuntu?
[16:17] <Racha> No
[16:17] <Reactor> ikorin: wait plz...
[16:17] <Lartza_> alkw: Synaptic or terminal way?
[16:17] <ikorin> Reactor: ok
[16:17] <alkw> Terminal
[16:17] <Racha> First Windows
[16:17] <Pici> !who
[16:17] <Lartza_> Racha: You propably installed grub to second partition
[16:17] <Lartza_> alkw: sudo apt-cache search *your package*
[16:17] <Racha> grub ?
[16:17] <thiebaude> !grub
[16:18] <Pici> Lartza_: It sounds like Racha used wubi
[16:18] <fccf> !info solr-common | alkw
[16:18] <Lartza_> Racha: Yea the list you choose your operating sustem
[16:18] <Lartza_> Pici: OHH!
[16:18] <Lartza_> Racha: Ignore
[16:18] <Reactor> ikorin: system-config-samba?
[16:18] <Racha> I installed all on D part. And windows is on C
[16:18] <Lartza_> Racha: Wubi?
[16:18] <Reactor> ikorin: or gadmin-samba?
[16:18] <Racha> I get CD from my friend
[16:18] <ikorin> Reactor: are you using gnome?
[16:18] <Axz> can someone help me with this error on update http://pastebin.com/m732b545c
[16:18] <Reactor> ikorin: yh
[16:18] <Lartza_> Pici: No wubi :)
[16:18] <Pici> Racha: Did the installer run from within windows or did you boot from the C?
[16:19] <Racha> Frin Wubdiws
[16:19] <Pici> Racha: rather, from the CD?
[16:19] <Racha> From Windows
[16:19] <ikorin> Reactor: open folder properties and go 2 Samba tab
[16:19] <ikorin> Reactor: do u have it?
[16:19] <Reactor> ikorin: yh
[16:19] <Racha> i Started installer from CD on my WIndows and install inside Windows ... but on D part. not on C where is Windows
[16:19] <Lartza_> Axz: Sure
[16:19] <Lartza_> Axz: It's no big deal, you don't have key for that repository
[16:20] <Lartza_> Axz: Wait a sec
[16:20] <ikorin> Reactor: play with tab
[16:20] <Axz> Lartza_, oke
[16:20] <Reactor> ikorin: all the ticks are marked and the name is correct
[16:20] <Lartza_> Axz: What repository is that?
[16:20] <Axz> Lartza_, that's a good question dont know
[16:20] <Racha> And what can i do now ? to get Boot Menu to work ?
[16:21] <ikorin> Reactor: try to deselect them save, and reselect
[16:21] <Lartza_> Axz: Pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[16:21] <Reactor> ikorin: tried
[16:21] <amee2k> hi everyone
[16:21] <thiebaude> amee2k, hey
[16:21] <amee2k> what is the name of the daemon that makes the "update notification" icon in the tray pop up?
[16:21] <Reactor> ikorin: I think this problem appears because I have no smbguest user
[16:22] <Lartza_> amee2k: No daemon
[16:22] <amee2k> i'm not using the gnome desktop but would like to keep it
[16:22] <Lartza_> amee2k: It's some update notifier program
[16:22] <Racha> ppl please help :(
[16:22] <amee2k> well, okay
[16:22] <Lartza_> Racha: We don't know how you isntalled ubuntu(I don't)
[16:22] <amee2k> but whats the name?
[16:22] <Axz> Lartza_, http://pastebin.com/m59f76795
[16:22] <Lartza_> amee2k: update-notifier? (Not sure=
[16:23]  * amee2k tries
[16:23] <thiebaude> Racha, you said live cd in windows makes me think wubi, but i dont know
[16:23] <Reactor> ikorin: rather I've got some glitches with smbguest and deleted it
[16:23] <Lartza_> Axz: You have added some 3rd party repositories I see...
[16:23] <amee2k> yup, thats it. thanks Lartza_ :)
[16:23] <Axz> Lartza_, yeah
[16:23] <Lartza_> amee2k: Np ;)
[16:23] <fccf> Lartza_: thats ubuntu tweak
[16:24] <Lartza_> Axz: I will get your fix soon sit tight
[16:24] <ikorin> Reactor: reisntall samba
[16:24] <thiebaude> Racha, you didn't boot from cd?
[16:24] <Racha> I started my computer with Windows ... loged in Windows i Run ubuntu 9.04 CD and Installed inside Windows on D: part. But Windows is on C: part. its maybe because of that and ho can i fix it ?
[16:24] <Racha> no
[16:24] <Axz> Lartza_, so just leave it alone? cant harm updates?
[16:24] <Racha> I start install from Windows
[16:24] <Lartza_> Axz: No wait
[16:24] <Reactor> ikorin: I have tried it
[16:24] <Axz> right ok
[16:24] <bullgard4> !sound
[16:24] <thiebaude> Racha, you able to get into windows?
[16:24] <Racha> Ya
[16:25] <Racha> Its lake allways .. just boot in Windows
[16:25] <amee2k>  264 updates available << 0.0
[16:25] <ikorin> Reactor: )) i do not know how to help u
[16:25] <thiebaude> Racha, put the live cd in and boot from the cd only
[16:25] <Racha> i am now on my computer but on Windows
[16:25] <amee2k> looks like i didn't miss that app in a long time
[16:25] <thiebaude> log out
[16:25] <thiebaude> start over, Racha
[16:25] <Racha> i dont whana lose Windows
[16:25] <Racha> And any of my files
[16:26] <Lartza_> Akz: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0624A220
[16:26] <Axz> oke
[16:26] <Lartza_> Akz: THen try sudo apt-get update again
[16:26] <friendki> hi all
[16:26] <ftherese> is it possible to make a proxy for an individual user
[16:26] <Reactor> ikorin: but thx for help
[16:26] <fufu>  ok i completely removed flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree using synaptic.. but i go to youtube, and it works.. why?
[16:26] <thiebaude> Racha, use the live cd to partition your drive so you can have windows and ubuntu
[16:26] <Lartza_> amee2k: You can always do sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:26] <grawity> Lartza_: I think Ubuntu's keyserver is down; pool.sks-keyservers.net might be better.
[16:27] <Racha> Its something bugged with Install inside Windows ?
[16:27] <Lartza_> grawity: I used it fine this morning
[16:27] <Racha> i dont whana make new part.
[16:27] <ikorin> Reactor: ;)
[16:27] <amee2k> Lartza_: yeah, but i neither like to have to do that every few days (as i just demonstrated, i tend to forget) nor unattended updates
[16:27] <Racha> just whana Install it like app. on part D:
[16:27] <Reactor> ikorin: :D
[16:27] <Axz> Lartza_, http://pastebin.com/m1cc5f7f5
[16:27] <amee2k> thus, i wanted the notification background gadget back :)
[16:27] <thiebaude> Racha, do you have your data in windows backed up?
[16:27] <Racha> No
[16:27] <thiebaude> ok
[16:27] <thiebaude> just asking
[16:27] <Racha> There is 500GB ...
[16:28] <fufu> i completely removed flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree using synaptic.. but i go to youtube, and it works.. does any1 know why?
[16:28] <dotblank> hey guys im looking for the best linux supported scanner there is
[16:28] <Lartza_> Akz: Now try apt-get update
[16:28] <Axz> Lartza_, still same error on apt-get update
[16:28] <Racha> I need 100 DVD's to make Back Up
[16:28] <Lartza_> Akz: Alright
[16:28] <friendki> why my computer often restart while its idle
[16:28] <grawity> Racha: Resizing partitions is easy with gparted.
[16:28] <grawity> Racha: In fact, the Ubuntu installer even does it automatically if you choose.
[16:28] <Lartza_> Akz: Still wait a sec
[16:28] <Axz> ok
[16:29] <ph33r> how do I set a command to run in terminal on start up in ubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:29] <ikorin> friendki: acpi problems?
[16:29] <Racha> » grawity « Ya. but i dont understand why install inside Windows dont work for me ?:S
[16:29] <carla> bonsoir
[16:29] <Lartza_> Akz: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 5ADC2037
[16:29] <Lartza_> Then update
[16:29] <Milos_SD> Hi, how can I get RTKIT to work in Jaunty?
[16:29] <Racha> maybe it need to be installed in same part. where is Windows ?
[16:29] <fccf> !fr | carla
[16:30] <Milos_SD> Where can I find kernel patch that is needed?
[16:30] <Lartza_> ph33r: Set it to run when you login okey for you?
[16:30] <Racha> or i need to Copy some files on C: ?
[16:30] <thiebaude> Racha, i wish i knew exactly how to help you, if it were me i would re-install windows and then use the live cd to install ubuntu next to windows
[16:30] <friendki> ikorin: how to check problem with acpi problem since its can be shutdown well
[16:30] <Deathstrikeog> better off installing it as a virtual machine if you are just trying it out
[16:30] <ikorin> friendki: dmesg
[16:30] <Lartza_> ph33r: You can do what I said in Preferences or SYstem(in the panel) and htere session
[16:31] <thiebaude> Racha, but of coarse i would wipe windows completely off the haed
[16:31] <ikorin> friendki: try to find any information in your logs
[16:31] <thiebaude> hard
[16:31] <ph33r> Lartza_: yes, I did it in startup applications, I want to run conky on startup
[16:31] <ikorin> friendki: before restart time
[16:31] <Lartza_> WEll then add it to the session
[16:31] <Racha> thiebaude, some one say me GRUB ? its possible i need to add something in C: to enable that Boot menu ?
[16:31] <thiebaude> !grub | Racha
[16:31] <Entelin> whats the executable name of System->Administration->Software Sources
[16:31] <Entelin> ?
[16:31] <thiebaude> that guide
[16:32] <Lartza_> Akz: Worked?
[16:32] <Racha> thiebaude, Ya but that as i se is for "lost grub after installing windows"
[16:32] <Reactor> ikorin: I'll try to restart the system ;)
[16:32] <Deathstrikeog> this is why dual boot can be such a pain
[16:32] <jenistin> I have a SSH question that makes me feel silly, if anyone would like to help. I've got sshd running in debug mode, the only way into this system at the moment, and it's refusing my connection.
[16:32] <ph33r> Lartza_: well there is a problem, the conky messes up and sits on top of all windows if it's started from the startup applications but runs fine when I type "conky" in terminal
[16:32] <Lartza_> thiebaude: He has some crazy install inside windows
[16:32] <thiebaude> Racha, yep
[16:32] <x[x]> hey stupid question ..but what does it mean if you type sudo apt get install build essential for airsnort and it says it cant find the package?
[16:32] <carla> :list
[16:32] <Lartza_> ph33r: Oh, then I don't know
[16:33] <thiebaude> Lartza_,yep
[16:33] <dreamsoul> Не устанавливается wine, помогите)
[16:33] <Racha> thiebaude, ya but i Installed Windows First and ubunti now ...
[16:33] <Lartza_> !ru | dreamsoul
[16:33] <Racha> thiebaude, i have Windows for 3 month from now
[16:33] <joeb3_> Entelin, software-properties-gtk
[16:33] <Entelin> thanks
[16:33] <joeb3_> Entelin, in /usr/bin
[16:33] <ph33r> Lartza_: one more thing, I have wl drivers and it won't startup automatically to, I have to do a manual rescan of networks to make it work
[16:33] <Racha> thiebaude, and sorry for my Engl.
[16:33] <fufu> i completely removed flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree using synaptic.. but i go to youtube, and it works.. why?
[16:33] <thiebaude> Racha, no problem
[16:33] <Lartza_> Racha: BUt you installed it WEIRD!
[16:33] <jenistin> x[x], I don't think "build essential" is a package, try it with a hyphen
[16:34] <Racha> Lartza_, how weird ?
[16:34] <thiebaude> i would just start over
[16:34] <x[x]> SHIT
[16:34] <Lartza_> fufu: Wait I'll help you in private... :P
[16:34] <x[x]> jenistin
[16:34] <x[x]> thanks
[16:34] <FloodBot1> x[x]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <x[x]> i didnt see the hypon
[16:34] <Lartza_> Racha: Somehow while you were on windows??
[16:34] <jenistin> x[x], np
[16:34] <fufu> ok tx
[16:34] <Lartza_> ph33r: No idea
[16:34] <x[x]> sorry for cursing
[16:34] <Deathstrikeog> apt-get install airsnort
[16:34] <ph33r> Lartza_: it's ok
[16:35] <Racha> Lartza_, i started my Windows and insert ubuntu CD ... and chose install inside Windows ... Chose part. D: and installed it ... btw. my Windows is on Part. C: ...
[16:35] <thiebaude> yep,wubi
[16:35] <Lartza_> Racha: Yea that is weird, not regular install
[16:36] <Racha> Lartza_, on my CD cover .. they say i need to do that :S
[16:36] <Lartza_> Racha: That is not regular ubuntu cd it's wubi, normal ubuntu cd needs to be booted before windows
[16:36] <bambam_> hi
[16:37] <Lartza_> And installed on it's own partition not C: or D:, not any letter
[16:37] <belorix> Does anyone know how i can create a panel that looks like the windows 7 taskbar
[16:37] <Racha> Lartza_ ,"Put CD in the drive while Windows is Running and select "install inside Windows" when the installation screen appears"
[16:37] <Lartza_> Racha: Yes that is WUBI!
[16:37] <Lartza_> Racha: NOT A REGULAR UBUNTU CD
[16:37] <Lartza_> Sorry operators for shouting :S
[16:37] <Racha> Lartza_, Translate me WUBI ...
[16:37] <useopenstupid> belorix: so you want to it to look like crap? hehe
[16:37] <Racha> Lartza_, please
[16:38] <friendki> ikorin: is it error "  4.322051] Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 1
[16:38] <friendki> "
[16:38] <Lartza_> Racha: It's the name of the program/ubuntu fork
[16:38] <ph33r> is there a way to delay the startup of a program in "startup applications"?
[16:38] <Lartza_> Racha: NOrmal ubuntu needs it's own partition and install canä't be done inside windows
[16:38] <Pici> !wubi | Racha
[16:38] <Lartza_> ph33r: No only in rc with runlevels
[16:38] <Reactor> ikorin: is the "browseable" param?
[16:39] <Racha> Lartza_, Ok anyway ... how to get what to Work ? .... how to get boot menu with "WUBI"
[16:39] <Lartza_> ph33r: Well delay all the startup applications with some delay command in the base login script :)
[16:39] <Lartza_> Racha: No idea
[16:39] <Axz> yeah thanks Lartza_
[16:39] <Axz> works
[16:39] <thiebaude> is wubi supported by canonical anyway?
[16:39] <useopenstupid> i could never get wubi to work,,, virtualbox for me
[16:39] <ph33r> Lartza_: hmm
[16:39] <Lartza_> thiebaude: No
[16:39] <Lartza_> Racha: YOu won't get boot menu with wubi
[16:39] <thiebaude> Lartza_, maybe thats why
[16:39] <Lartza_> As it's a windows rpogram
[16:40] <Racha> Lartza_, and how to get it ?
[16:40] <Lartza_> Racha: Get what?
[16:40] <Deathstrikeog> Yea like I said earlier run the distro in a virtual machine
[16:40] <Racha> Lartza_, boot menu ... or what ...
[16:40] <Lartza_> Racha: You won't
[16:40] <thiebaude> Lartza_, he can delete the folder that wubi is in
[16:40] <Lartza_> Check start menu for wubi
[16:40] <Racha> Lartza_, and how to get in ubuntu ?
[16:40] <Lartza_> theibaube: No
[16:40] <thiebaude> ok
[16:40] <Lartza_> thiebaube: He should use windows add/remove
[16:40] <Pici> Lartza_: the wubi install should add itself into the windows boot loader, but it won't use grub.
[16:40] <thiebaude> cool
[16:40] <Lartza_> Pici: really?
[16:40] <pradeep> anyone knows how to shutdown a computer if i know its ip
[16:41] <Pici> Lartza_: really.
[16:41] <Racha> Lartza_, i need someway to start ubuntu now :S
[16:41] <Lartza_> Pici: then he needs to press some F button
[16:41] <Lartza_> Racha: On boot you need some F key
[16:41] <Pici> Lartza_: Maybe. I've never actually done a wubi install.
[16:41] <pradeep> ?
[16:41] <pradeep> anyone knows how to shutdown a computer if i know its ip
[16:41] <useopenstupid> pradeep: is it a linux box
[16:41] <Lartza_> Pici: To get windows boot menu you need some F key
[16:41] <pradeep> windows
[16:42] <Racha> Lartza_, i can get boot menu with F8 ... but its only if i have CD in ..
[16:42] <Pici> Lartza_: Usually if you have additional options there it will prompt you every time.
[16:42] <Lartza_> pradeep: FOr harm or your own use?
[16:42] <Lartza_> Racha: No after that
[16:42] <Racha> Lartza_, with WUBI i need cd in ? or ?
[16:42] <thiebaude> Pici, aftr he uninstalls wubi he still needs to get the wubi option off his boot menu
[16:42] <Lartza_> Racha: No, nobody really knows for sure here
[16:42] <pradeep> Lartza_: i have a network of computer in my home
[16:42] <Racha> Lartza_, and who knowe ?:D
[16:43] <pradeep> i want to shutdown my desktop from my laptop
[16:43] <Lartza_> pradeep: Okey jsut to make sure you don't want to shutdown someones computer thorugh internet dfor bad use
[16:43] <akozak> Is there an easy fix for my office printer only printing out one page, no matter the source app?
[16:43] <Lartza_> Racha: Remove windows and format all hard drives, install windows, get REAL ubuntu cd and install ubuntu
[16:43] <akozak> It refuses to print more than one page at a time
[16:43] <pradeep> Lartza_: my desktop and laptop are connected via wireless lan
[16:43] <Deathstrikeog> Shutdown command is disabled in windows by default now I think
[16:43] <Deathstrikeog> You would have to enable the service on the computer you want to shutdown first then use the shutdown command I think
[16:43] <thiebaude> Lartza_, agree
[16:44] <Lartza_> pradeep: ANd ubuntu windows right?
[16:44] <pradeep> Lartza_:ubuntu on lappy and vista on desktop
[16:44] <lash9420> I just installed Ubuntu using Wubi. I am on an HP laptop. Looks like my display is not correct. How can I fix this?
[16:44] <Racha> Lartza_, i cant do that ... that is only reason i what to use WUBI ... because i have 500GB and there is no way i can delete them all ... or i can just Turn off my company ...
[16:44] <Lartza_> pradeep: You need samba on ubuntu porpably
[16:45] <Lartza_> Great another wubi user -.-
[16:45] <pradeep> is it necessary to install
[16:45] <Racha> Lartza u love us WUBI users :D
[16:45] <Lartza_> Deathstrikeog: No it's not if I am right
[16:45] <thiebaude> Lartza_, it should say use at your own risk
[16:45] <Lartza_> pradeep: yes you need samba to do windows actions and access windows
[16:45] <pradeep> Lartza_:ssh wont work
[16:45] <lash9420> Lartza_, is that bad?
[16:46] <Lartza_> pradeeP: SSH could work
[16:46] <pradeep> Lartza_: after i install it wat next
[16:46] <Racha> Any1 knowe ABOT WUBI ????
[16:46] <Lartza_> pradeep: Wait why can't you isntall samba?
[16:46] <lash9420> Racha: what about it?
[16:46] <thiebaude> !wubi | Racha
[16:46] <mopoyo> hi.. i typed sudo chmod 770 in the root directory of ubuntu... and everything stuffed up
[16:46] <pradeep> Lartza_:Wats the procedure
[16:46] <mopoyo> sudo chmod 770 *
[16:46] <Racha> 14lash9420, first how to get it work
[16:47] <mopoyo> is there anyway i can fix it?
[16:47] <thiebaude> bbl
[16:47] <Racha> lash9420, I installed it
[16:47] <lash9420> Racha: Have you downloaded and installed it?
[16:47] <lash9420> oaky
[16:47] <Racha> lash9420, and now how to get into ubunty
[16:47] <pradeep> Lartza_:Okay will install
[16:47] <Lartza_> pradeep: Try rpcclient -U username -I IP Address -c shutdown
[16:47] <Deathstrikeog> Yea I think the service is disabled by default for security reasons in a service pack just like the netsend command
[16:48] <lash9420> Racha:vDid you restart your computer to and select Ubuntu from the Boot menu?
[16:48] <Racha> lash9420, But i dont installed it on same part. where is my windows ...
[16:48] <Racha> lash9420, There is problem i dont get boot menu :)
[16:48] <Lartza_> lash9420: He gots no boot menu...
[16:48] <Lartza_> lash9420: Yep...
[16:48] <Deathstrikeog> I could be wrong
[16:48] <chip3d> hello
[16:49] <Lartza_> Deathstikeog: remote shutdown should be allowed if you login and get priviligies
[16:49] <lash9420> Racha: hm...So you restart your computer. Afteunr BEFORE you launch into your normalOS. You dont see a Ubuntu option?
[16:49] <pradeep> Lartza_:after installing samba
[16:49] <pradeep> Lartza_:after installing samba
[16:49] <kudi> how come when  i add a certain budy name in pidgin it says it cant add it, but when the person i/ms me it shows that she is offline
[16:49] <Racha> lash9420, no :) just live allways turn on my Windows OS
[16:49] <mikebl> hi... can i get some help related to laptops running ubuntu?
[16:49] <Lartza_> kudi: He hasn't accepted you yet?
[16:49] <Lartza_> mikebl: Yes, ask don't ask to ask
[16:50] <Racha> lash9420, i told u maybe its because it is't in same part. with Windows ..
[16:50] <Racha> lash9420, Its on D: and Windows is on C:
[16:50] <lash9420> Racha: Maybe... I have no idea. Ask someone. else.... =]
[16:50] <Lartza_> Racha: BUt the menu entry geos to the menu file on the master boot section...
[16:50] <Racha> lash9420, i will cray :(
[16:50] <kudi> Kudi: she has, ive had converstaions...its through aim
[16:51] <Lartza_> pradeep: Yes?
[16:51] <Racha> Some one can kill me please ... or hel me with WUBI ?:)
[16:51] <Racha> Some one can kill me please ... or help me with WUBI ?:)
[16:51] <Lartza_> YOu get rid of wubi and get yourself a real ubuntu
[16:51] <x[x]> guys
[16:51] <mikebl> i need to run ubuntu and probably win 7 together on a laptop.. i would like to know if there's a particular brand that you could recommend me.. i need 4gb in ram, 300+ gb in disk, but im not sure if a intel or amd is better, hp or toshiba? i guess amd heats a lot..
[16:51] <Lartza_> And don't spam Racha
[16:51] <Deathstrikeog> Ok I will try it its been a while since I messed with it anyways.
[16:51] <pradeep> Lartza_:Its giving invalid IP address
[16:51] <x[x]> whats the name of that tool that you use to put an iso on a usb stick?
[16:51] <Racha> sorry...
[16:51] <x[x]> it helps you set it uop
[16:51] <Lartza_> mikebl: It sohuld work on every laptop
[16:51] <Lartza_> x[x]: unetbootin?
[16:52] <pradeep> IP is rite
[16:52] <x[x]> YES!!!
[16:52] <x[x]> thank you
[16:52] <Racha> Some one can kill me please ... or help me with WUBI ?:)
[16:52] <mikebl> ok... i think i'll go for toshiba... thanks
[16:52] <n8tuser> Racha -> you were told to install one, wubi is a taste test only
[16:52] <Lartza_> How can you list installed packages that match a string flash in terminal?
[16:53] <chip3d> I need some general help on the unix commandline-I have a $ sign showing at the end of the prompt line, correct me if I am wrong but that indicates that I am in the shell mode. My question is if I want to get out of that mode how do I do it and would doing that allow running program specific commands, like matlab commands
[16:53] <pradeep> Lartza_:its asking for a password. is it my windows password or my laptops
[16:53] <Lartza_> YEas for the user you chose
[16:54] <Racha> n8tuser, u knowe how can i get 30GB from my D part. easy and fast ? to get new part. ? for ubuntu ?
[16:54] <n8tuser> chip3d -> yes, the $prompt is the console, you can from that console run your mathlab applications and possibly get an interactive prompt from mathlab
[16:54] <Deathstrikeog> I have to go see you guys later
[16:54] <Pici> Lartza_: dpkg -l | grep "^ii.*flash.*"
[16:54] <Lartza_> Pici: THanks Pici, don't piorpably need it anymore :)
[16:55] <n8tuser> Racha yes, you can recover that Wubi occupied partition and convert that to a ubuntu supported 2ext, 3ext or 4ext,
[16:55] <chip3d> n8tuser do you mind if I open a private chat with you?
[16:55] <Lartza_> fufu has problem with his flash...
[16:55] <thiebaude> anyone know if wubi is open-source?
[16:55] <n8tuser> chip3d i mind, lets chat here so people can interact with us and correct me if I gave you wrong advise
[16:55] <Racha> n8tuser, i dont have part. where is Wubi ... it is with my other files ...
[16:55] <maco> thiebaude: it is
[16:55] <chip3d> alright, no problem
[16:56] <fufu> guys i need to borrow lartza for a few minutes
[16:56] <thiebaude> thanks,maco
[16:56] <n8tuser> Racha -> then it is as easy as erasing one huge file within windows
[16:56] <Racha> n8tuser, And as i say ... i cant lose any of my files
[16:56] <pradeep> Lartza_:It says failed to connect and connection refused
[16:56] <n8tuser> Racha you can always make a backup to an external drive or secondary drive
[16:56] <Racha> n8tuser, I have 500GB of Files there ...
[16:56] <AceKing> Does anyone know how I can lock a folder? I want to lock a folder on an external HDD. I also want to make sure it cannot be opened in a windows environment
[16:56] <pradeep> Lartza_:It says failed to connect and connection refused
[16:57] <Lartza_> pradeep: Yes don't spam, wait
[16:57] <chip3d> so If i am logged into this unix server and the prompt shows a $ sign how can I get rid of that and go into the mode which shows /folder>
[16:57] <ph33r> how do I load my wl drivers on startup ?
[16:57] <stew> AceKing: you can't without doing something like encrypting it
[16:57] <pradeep> ?
[16:57] <Lartza_> pradeep: Wait din't ask again so fast
[16:57] <ph33r> btw I have done "echo wl | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[16:58] <n8tuser> chip3d -> ahh you want an X window?  ssh -Y -l username@remoteip    assuming here your remote server has X server active
[16:58] <Racha> n8tuser, its possible to juse take 30GB and make new Part. ?
[16:58] <Lartza_> pradeep: rpcclient -U username -I IP Address -c REG shutdown
[16:58] <Cptnodegard> doesnt ubuntu work with geforce 6800go?
[16:58] <n8tuser> Racha yes its possible
[16:58] <Racha> n8tuser, just tell me how ...
[16:58] <Racha> n8tuser, because i cant format any part. i have ....
[16:58] <n8tuser> Racha are you on the windows now as opposed to booted to wubi?
[16:58] <Lartza_> pradeep: ANd you might tune windows to allow remote shutdown like someone said
[16:59] <Racha> n8tuser, I am on Windows
[16:59] <AceKing> stew: how do I encrypt it?
[16:59] <chip3d> I tried startx, but x server doesn't start
[16:59] <Racha> n8tuser, I am on Windows i dont knowe what to do with wubi so i will try to get new part. and install Ubuntu ...
[17:00] <chip3d> however, my friend who sits beside me as soon as he logs in, he has the regular /folder> and no $ sign... and he can start using gromacs (computer simulation program) commands as soon as he logs in
[17:00] <pradeep> Lartza_: Its not working. May be i have to disable firewall i guess
[17:00] <n8tuser> Racha then you can erase that large  wubi directory or file, then you can readjust within windows, to get the spaces and use another tool to format a new partition or use the Ubuntu livecd to create the partition you need
[17:00] <chip3d> while for me, it shows username@server: ~ $
[17:00] <Lartza_> pradeep: no windows refuses remote shutdown by default propably
[17:00] <mopoyo> what is the default password for root?
[17:01] <isleshocky77> I'm trying to modify a setting on my home machine using gconftool-2 from work right now through an ssh session. But it doesn't seem to work. Do I have to setup a environment variable so it edits the correct files?
[17:01] <Racha> n8tuser, i deleted it but what to use to get 30GB from D: to new part ?
[17:01] <n8tuser> chip3d -> how do you normally run that gromacs?
[17:01] <Lartza_> pradeep: Start widnwos service remote procedure call
[17:02] <n8tuser> Racha reboot using the livecd   and then select your D as the destination partition for installing Ubuntu
[17:02] <xover> what is the main advantage of 64 bit OS?
[17:02] <Lartza_> pradeep: This SHOULD work if your windows is set up properly
[17:02] <Lartza_> pradeep: net rpc SHUTDOWN -C "Comment here" -f -I xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -U username%password
[17:02] <oscuro> oi
[17:03] <joeb3_> chip3d, http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/howtos/Bash-Prompt/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO-2.html
[17:03] <Racha> n8tuser, that will format D: ? or i will able to use it witn Windows ... later ?
[17:03] <AceKing> stew: I right clicked on the folder I would like to lock and clicked encrypt.. It looks like it trying to email it. Am I doing something wrong?
[17:03] <joeb3_> chip3d, if using bash of course.
[17:03] <chip3d> I haven't been able to use it, but my friend, he logs in to the unix server on the computer and starts using the gromacs specific commands once he is in the right folder.
[17:03] <chip3d> yes joeb3 im using bash
[17:03] <chip3d> pretty darn good insight man :D
[17:03] <icarus> is there some something that can read text to me out loud but onaly the text i select
[17:03] <Lartza_> xover: More RAM
[17:04] <ph33r> how do I run a set of commands with sudo at startup so that my wl drivers are loaded automatically ?
[17:04] <n8tuser> isleshocky77 -> the command is something like  " gconftool-e -t str --set /desktop/gnome/font-rendering/dpi 96 "
[17:04] <chip3d> thanks joeb3, I will check it out
[17:04] <icarus> Lartza_, you best be trolling
[17:04] <Racha> n8tuser, that will format D: ? or i will able to use it witn Windows ... later ?
[17:04] <Racha> ??
[17:04] <Lartza_> icarus: No...
[17:04] <legend2440> !root | mopoyo ubuntu does not set up default root account. what are you tryng to do? login as root?
[17:05] <n8tuser> Racha yes you will be able to use windows later, you may have to play with grub a little bit, ubuntu  when installing preserves the ntfs partition and put an entry in menu.lst
[17:05] <n8tuser> so you can boot into windows
[17:06] <Racha> Ye but will i be able to access in my D: that will stay ntfs ?
[17:06] <Racha> With Windows
[17:06] <n8tuser> icarus hang on.. let me check my notes
[17:06] <kelli> hi all
[17:07] <n8tuser> Racha nope, if you used up all D as linux, no you wont easily see it in windows, but if only lets say half of D, then yeah you will still see it in windows
[17:07] <kelli> how do i turn off the start up sound?
[17:08] <Racha> Laughing Out Loud ...
[17:08] <icarus> kelli, prefrences > sound
[17:08] <Racha> That isnt secure ... so i cant do that ..
[17:08] <Racha> Is there anyone who knowe about WUBI ?
[17:08] <Racha> So can help me to get it Work ?
[17:08] <babbio> hi guys....i have a problem...the shutdown button and the "pidgin letterbox button" are disappeared....what can i do ????
[17:08] <n8tuser> Icarus look into daisy, kurtzweil and such
[17:09] <legend2440> kelli: open system>pref>sound then Sound tab  look for Desktop Login and choose disabled
[17:09] <n8tuser> Racha -> what are you referring to as not secure?
[17:09] <icarus> n8tuser, ok
[17:10] <kelli> thanks icarus  & legend2440
[17:10] <DB23> dear community.. quick question
[17:10] <oscuro> I've been reading the forums for a while trying to decide whether to get a nvidia or ati graphics card. does ati have decent acceleration support on linux nowadays? or is nvidia still king?
[17:10] <Racha> n8tuser, That... i need to get half of my part. to linux ... idk. how its possible to no one knowe about WUBI :S .... i cant lose any of my files ... i will die if i lose any of files :S...
[17:10] <n8tuser> icarus even adobe has it too, and text-aloud
[17:10] <DB23> i want to install ubuntu on a usb drive.. and i know there are several ways
[17:11] <DB23> what i want is an install.. just like an ordinary install on a hard drive
[17:11] <BusMaster> I use an http_proxy at school and no proxy at home. how can i configure my ubuntu so that if I'm at school, the proxy is set and if I'm at home, it is not?
[17:11] <n8tuser> Racha you are getting confused, i already told you what to do, and you mumble about this secure thing, what are you referring to?
[17:11] <DB23> but one that is computer independent
[17:11] <Boohbah> oscuro: still nvidia. but the word is AMD is improving their drivers
[17:11] <fufu> hey
[17:11] <Racha> n8tuser, i am fraid i will lose files from D:
[17:11] <Boohbah> oscuro: AMD == ATi
[17:11] <DB23> so that i can use it across several computers.
[17:11] <n8tuser> DB23 -> sometimes it will not work because of bios incompatibilities,
[17:11] <oscuro> DB23, pretty sure I saw a guide on that on pendrivelinux.com
[17:11] <oscuro> Boohbah, thanks
[17:12] <goddard> Anyone know of a good irc channel for PHP?
[17:12] <n8tuser> Racha -> what else do youi have in drive D? can you not make a backup of it?
[17:12] <Boohbah> goddard: ##php
[17:12] <DB23> well.. i know about the bios.. most of the new computers tend to work with booting from usb
[17:12] <goddard> Boobah thanks..php ironicly
[17:12] <Racha> n8tuser, No i have 500GB Of my Company Files ... i will need 100DVD to make Vackup ...
[17:12] <n8tuser> DB23 newer yes, but since you mentioned in general, i assumed you were counting older bios too
[17:12] <bac> hi jpds
[17:12] <ctmjr> i keep getting failed login attempts from an ip 40 to 50 a day i put this in iptables can anyone verify if it looks good or suggest something better "iptables -A INPUT -s 200.20.215.131 -j DROP"
[17:13] <Boohbah> goddard: yeah freenode policy make them use two hases, unofficial channel
[17:13] <Racha> n8tuser, U knowe anyone who knowe more about WUBI ?
[17:13] <n8tuser> Racha once more, get another external drive and save to it, or a network drive and store your backup into it
[17:13] <n8tuser> Racha you are hard headed, we already told you, WUBI is a taste test setup, not for permanent usage
[17:13] <worm_> Hello, odd problem here with my keyboard... Every 5 seconds a character is deleted like if i pushed backspace... And no, backspace is not stuck on my keyboard which is very clean (logitech G15)
[17:14] <n8tuser> Racha unless that is what you  are after, a playtoy until you get the hang of linux.. then use WUBI
[17:14] <useopenstupid> n8tuser Vs Racha,,, ;)
[17:14] <joeb3_> ctmjr, looks good.
[17:15] <Racha> n8tuser, i will tray to get new HDD later ... if u knowe anyone who get WUBI to work or Something give them my MSN ... Racha93@live.com ... so they help me :) Thanks anyway :)
[17:15] <ctmjr> joeb3_, ok thanks
[17:16] <n8tuser> Racha -> is your Wubi install not working at all?
[17:16] <lexr> what is wrong with wubi?
[17:16] <Racha> n8tuser, it work .. i installed it Right now ...
[17:16] <Racha> n8tuser, agein :)
[17:16] <rsk> lexr: define wrong
[17:16] <thiebaude> Racha, hope everything is ok now
[17:16] <n8tuser> Racha so what is the problem then? i gave you the steps to install a new ubuntu..
[17:16] <chip3d> joeb3, I checked the link you gave me, however, it doesn't work. I can't run the program commands
[17:16] <chip3d> thanks though
[17:17] <Racha> n8tuser, i will try one more time to reboot ... if that dont work i will come back in 10-15 min ...
[17:17] <n8tuser> rsk we are responding to racha..
[17:17] <lexr> well, I tried to install ubuntu 8.10 on my friends machine inside Windows 7, and failed miserably.
[17:17] <joeb3_> chip3d, export PS1='\u@\h:\w'
[17:17] <Racha> n8tuser, I dont get boot menu when i rebot ..
[17:17] <lexr> it isntalled, no errors, ran it as admin, but I could not get it to let me choose the bootloader wheter to go in win or linux...
[17:17] <useopenstupid> hey this chan is more fun to sit and watch than TV ,,,, im just sad
[17:17] <lexr> same problem!
[17:18] <Racha> n8tuser, i will try now ..
[17:18] <Racha> n8tuser, cya :)
[17:19] <jophish> I am hoping to set up a server in my home, to host music and photos. What kind of specs should I be looking for
[17:20] <useopenstupid> jophish: any old thing should do for that
[17:21] <ManDay> Hello guys, how well supported is ROOT in the ubuntu repositories?
[17:21] <ManDay> supported in terms of updated
[17:23] <ManDay> Hello guys, how well supported/kept up to date is ROOT (math. num. software from CERN) in the ubuntu repositories?
[17:23] <n8tuser> ManDay -> what do you mean ROOT?
[17:23] <ManDay> s.a.
[17:24] <ManDay> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROOT
[17:24] <Myrtti> Do you mean R?
[17:24] <n8tuser> ManDay -> i believed those are applications, so you just check the repositories for updated ones
[17:24] <ManDay> If you add another two Os and a T, yes Myrtti
[17:25] <ManDay> n8tuser, I'm not sure I understand
[17:25] <ManDay> What do you mean?
[17:25] <th0r> ManDay: Root is at version 5.18.00 in the repos...you cna check the ROOT homepage to see what is available
[17:25] <sipior> ManDay: well, version 5.18 is in the repository, and version 5.22 is available from CERN.
[17:25] <sipior> ManDay: you can decide whether that's a problem for you or not.
[17:26] <ManDay> sipior, yes, I see. I don't know how much of a difference that is though. (When did 5.18 release). I was hoping someone had some experience with it
[17:26] <ManDay> I just wonder whether I should take it from the repos or get it from CERN in the first place
[17:26] <ManDay> but i think 5.18 sounds quite fine
[17:27] <jophish> Can anyone recommend a good NAS server
[17:27] <n8tuser> jophish -> where are you abouts? i seem to see lots of inexpensive servers now on craigslist
[17:28] <bribroder> hey guys, quick Q
[17:28] <jophish> n8tuser, In the UK, I am probably going to buy it new
[17:28] <bribroder> is there a way to make two directories appear under one? like a folder that has the contents of two other folders?
[17:28] <sipior> ManDay: asking whether folks on a software support channel have experience with a specialised program dedicated to the analysis of high energy collider data is going to have a low success rate ;-)
[17:29] <n8tuser> jophish seems like the supermicro brand is popular amongs servers
[17:30] <ManDay> sipior, I'm myself not involved at any collider but I thought ROOT has some general appliance in data analasys
[17:30] <sipior> ManDay: it does, yes. especially really large data volumes, apparently. you might also look into SciPy, which is a bit more general in application.
[17:31] <n8tuser> bribroder -> i dont think so..but you can have both in your search path to make the search easier
[17:31] <jophish> I shall investigate, thanks n8tuser
[17:31] <Aviram> Hey guys, Yesterday I installed on my brand new HP Laptop , but it seems I cant hear sound or use the HDMI output
[17:31] <sipior> ManDay: assuming you like python, of course :-)
[17:31] <ManDay> I have always managed to ship arround python - never touched it :P
[17:32] <RickX> anyone know if the main repository is down?
[17:32] <john> hello
[17:32] <blugrin> How to make change the number of default desktop ?
[17:32] <sipior> ManDay: it's easy to pick up, and handy to know.
[17:32] <Aviram> anyone help? D:
[17:32] <ManDay> sipior, where would you say does SciPy have an advantage over ROOT?
[17:32] <bribroder> thanks n8tuser
[17:32] <ManDay> sipior, I ve no doubt it is
[17:33] <n8tuser> bribroder you're welcome
[17:33] <ManDay> I will not make my choice depend upon the language used. though performance is definitily a point (see ROOT and C++)
[17:33] <john_> is 9.10 going to have updated apps like OOo and FF?
[17:33] <john_> i seem to be behind and only have 3.0 for OOo and FF
[17:33] <thiebaude> RickX, i cant get archive.ubuntu.com
[17:34] <blugrin> I am in the openbox in xorg, How to make change the number of default desktop to 2 rather than 4?
[17:34] <pyro2927> has anyone here had a successful install of netatalk?
[17:34] <sipior> ManDay: i would say the principal advantage is that there is a large research community devoted to SciPy (although CERN certainly does employ a lot of folks). very multidisciplinary.
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> blugrin:  you may want to check the openbox homepage/docs proberly a config file you need to make/edit
[17:35] <jems> How do I become a developer and join a team
[17:35] <ikonia> jems: learn a programming language and join one of the projects
[17:35] <IdleOne> I am running firefox-3.5 from repos but just got an update notice and it wants to apply some firefox-3.0 updates. should I apply them?
[17:35] <RickX> thiebaude: I can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[17:35] <ikonia> IdleOne: I'd advise caution, someoe had a problem with them yesterday
[17:35] <jems> which one is most commonly used
[17:36] <ikonia> IdleOne: it still worked but borked his gnome-do functionality for firefox
[17:36] <IdleOne> ikonia: thank you
[17:36] <blugrin> Dr_Willis: will see, thnx
[17:36] <mac_attack09> i just applied the ff updates too
[17:36] <john_> perhaps ill keep whatever apps 9.04 has then.  wont update to FF 3.5
[17:36] <thiebaude> RickX, servers could be down
[17:36] <jems> ikonia:  which one is most commonly used
[17:36] <Hydrid> is medibuntu in the default repositories of ubuntu?
[17:37] <ikonia> jems: learn what you want to use,
[17:37] <thiebaude> Hydrid, no
[17:37] <thiebaude> !medibuntu
[17:37] <Hydrid> thanks
[17:37] <thiebaude> np
[17:37] <ikonia> jems: to be honest this isn't an ubuntu specific quesiton, you may want to search the web for an introduction to programming
[17:37] <RickX> thiebaude: are there other repositories listed somewhere? .. or might they be doing a massice sync?
[17:37] <john_> i haven't programmed in a very long time
[17:37] <john_> and when i did it was just in Visual Basic
[17:37] <thiebaude> RickX, i'am not sure
[17:38] <RickX> ok thanks :-)
[17:38] <ManDay> sipior, that is a point. I'm myself am mostly interested in the physical part, though. So I wonder will Octave offer a broader spectrum but after all be of less use to me than ROOT would eventually be?!
[17:38] <IdleOne> ikonia: not concerned about gnome-do as i don't use it. just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to break firefox entirely
[17:38] <cocoa117> if user belong to admin group, it have privilege to ignore the sticky bit set on the folder?
[17:38] <Pici> jems: Or maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat about it, since its not really Ubuntu releated.
[17:38] <ikonia> IdleOne: doesn't seem to break anything firefox specific
[17:39] <jems> Okay and about pidgin, how do I enter yahoo chat-rooms
[17:39] <ikonia> jems: I don't think it supports yahoo chat rooms
[17:40] <sipior> ManDay: probably best if you give these all a try for a bit. get stuck in, see what the development environment is like, and how well each meshes with your own work.
[17:41] <ManDay> sipior, I think that is what I will have to do in the end.
[17:41] <thiebaude> !pidgin
[17:42] <Ben64> pidgin works for yahoo chat
[17:42] <jems> It took almost three full days to fully set-up Jaunty on my dv3, now I'm just finalizing.
[17:43] <Aviram> anyone help?
[17:43] <rsk> !ask | Aviram
[17:43] <Aviram> I didnt ask to ask, I asked but none answer.. :<
[17:44] <john_> hi hippychick
[17:44] <thiebaude> Ben64, i wonder what server yahoo chat is on?
[17:44] <Aviram> It seems I can get my HDMI output working and my sound..
[17:44] <hippychick> hi
[17:44] <jems> I need help setting the brightness on my dv3 2102Tu, nothing seems to work, it's always above 100%
[17:44] <Aviram> I bought my laptop yesterday, and I installed ubuntu on it
[17:44] <john_> how are ya
[17:44] <Pici> jems: Try doing: Buddies > Join a chat room in the buddy list window
[17:44] <Aviram> rsk?
[17:45] <rsk> Aviram: can't help, never used HDMI.
[17:45] <nikhil> i am unable to run deluge, Deluge will not start for me, I click the icon, acts like it will start up, and nothing starts at all. reinstalled it by complete removal, still no luck!! please help
[17:45] <Aviram> what about my sound? my sound doesnt overall work..
[17:45] <jems> Pici :I need help setting the brightness on my dv3 2102Tu, nothing seems to work, it's always above 100%
[17:45] <Aviram> :<
[17:46] <Halabund> Is it somehow possible to edit the "shortcuts" in the application menu?  I would like to include a flag (command line option) for one of the programs.
[17:46] <nikhil> i am unable to run deluge, Deluge will not start for me, I click the icon, acts like it will start up, and nothing starts at all. reinstalled it by complete removal, still no luck!! please help
[17:46] <nikhil> i am unable to run deluge, Deluge will not start for me, I click the icon, acts like it will start up, and nothing starts at all. reinstalled it by complete removal, still no luck!! please help
[17:46] <Pici> jems: I'm sorry I don't even know what that is
[17:46] <FloodBot1> nikhil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <Pici> !repeat | nikhil
[17:46] <Aviram> rsk? :<
[17:46] <jems> Aviram: I installed the latest alsa drivers and it worked.
[17:46] <nikhil> oh sorry for the flooding
[17:46] <rsk> Aviram: ? :<
[17:46] <rsk> no idea.
[17:47] <Shane__> hey guys
[17:47] <Aviram> ALSA?
[17:47] <Aviram> Where do I get the latest drivers? :X
[17:47] <hari_> Is there any device that Ubuntu MID runs on?
[17:47] <joeb3_> Halabund, using gnome?
[17:47] <Shane__> I just tried the tial version by booting it from a cd to see what ubuntu was like. anyway really like it but it couldn't pick up any wireless networks....any idea why?
[17:48] <Halabund> joeb3_: yes.  I'd like to include a command line flag for Skype
[17:48] <jems> Aviram:  Yes alsa all the rest even pulseaudio refused to work
[17:48] <Aviram> Yes, But where do I get it? D:
[17:48] <joeb3_> Halabund, right click the "foot".  Edit Menus.
[17:48] <Aviram> how is the package called?
[17:48] <Pici> !latest | Aviram
[17:48] <Aviram> and did you get the HDMI output to work?
[17:49] <Shane__> can anyone help me out pleasE??
[17:49] <grouper> how do i stop X from a terminal?
[17:49] <grouper> how do i stop the service?
[17:49] <nikhil> i am unable to run deluge, Deluge will not start for me, I click the icon, acts like it will start up, and nothing starts at all. reinstalled it by complete removal, still no luck!! please help
[17:49] <joeb3_> Shane__, depends on the question.  Ask, please.
[17:49] <Pici> grouper: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[17:50] <Misha> Hiya folks. An embarrassingly simple question. Suppose that I wanted to use Nautilus to list all the files in a directory *and* its subdirectories. How would I do this? The search-function doesn't seem to allow wildcards :(
[17:50] <cornet> nikhil: what happens if you run it from a terminal
[17:50] <warriorforgod> nikhil: Does running it from the command line give any errors?
[17:50] <Halabund> joeb3_: great!  I was right clicking the shortcut itself, which didn't offer any edit options.  Didn't think of clicking the top level menu
[17:50] <Aviram> jems: Does the HDMI output work for u?
[17:50] <nikhil> how to run it from terminal?
[17:50] <Shane__> hi joeb3_ i ran ubuntu from a cd but didnt install it...just tried it out. anyway loved it except that it couldnt pick up my (or any ) wireless networks...any idea why??
[17:51] <Hydrid> try to find non-free-codecs in synaptic manager but cant find it.i have put the medibuntu in my third party source
[17:51] <joeb3_> Shane__, probably no drivers for your card.
[17:51] <jems> I haven't tried HDMI yet....i hope so.
[17:52] <nikhil> no existing Deluge session
[17:52] <Shane__> oh ok...what can i do about that? mine is a dell inspiron 6400
[17:52] <nikhil> Starting new Deluge session...
[17:52] <nikhil> Traceback (most recent call last):
[17:52] <nikhil>   File "/usr/bin/deluge", line 132, in <module>
[17:52] <nikhil>     start_deluge()
[17:52] <nikhil>   File "/usr/bin/deluge", line 115, in start_deluge
[17:52] <FloodBot1> nikhil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:52] <Aviram> jems: Any chance you'll try now? :<
[17:52] <Kryztoff> hi - my macbook 5.1 is getting very hot with jaunty an its not fun to work with some remarks
[17:52] <nikhil> i am getting the above error when i run deluge from terminal
[17:52] <Halabund> Shane__, joeb3_: mine only works if the wireless is enabled in Windows first (dell 1370 wireless)
[17:52] <Kryztoff> i know https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook5-1/Jaunty but it doesnt helps
[17:52] <nycrbot> i know that it couldnt pick up any wireless networks....any idea why?
[17:53] <fahadsadah> Did I just join?
[17:53] <fahadsadah> (sorry, irssi fails)
[17:53] <xurxo> I just bought a HP Pavillion. It doesnt have any sound? Any solutions? Thanks
[17:53] <jems> Pici: Thanks so much I'm chatting in yahoo chatrooms, it was so easy and bot aren't filling my screen. Pidgin rocks
[17:53] <fahadsadah>  !sound | xurxo
[17:53] <warriorforgod> nikhil: Post the output of running from the command line to pastebin and then paste the link here.
[17:53] <cognitiaclaeves> I tried to install the thunderbird biff tray add-on and now I don't see notifications at all when I receive an email.  I need either the default to work, or the new add-on to work... I'd prefer to get the new working.  The option to use the system notification is greyed out on the add-on's preferences screen.
[17:53] <ManDay> Does anyone know the system requirements for ROOT?
[17:54] <nikhil> what is a pastebin?
[17:54] <Pici> !pastebin | nikhil
[17:54] <buch> !panels
[17:54] <fahadsadah> !root ManDay
[17:55] <fahadsadah> !root | ManDay
[17:55] <cognitiaclaeves> Who is the panel tip for?
[17:55] <buch> For my self :p
[17:56] <grawity> buch: /msg ubottu !panels, btw.
[17:56] <ManDay> fahadsadah, not quite the ROOT i was thinking of, lol
[17:56] <DeathMetalDean> this may seem a rather dumb question but how do I install songbird? I downloaded it from their website and got the tar.gz file... and I extracted it but nothing came up in the sound & video menu for me to select it, I tried to open in it in the terminal as well but it was unknown
[17:56] <buch> ahh ofc :(
[17:56] <Halabund> Shane__: Also, for some reason the wireless didn't work for me either when I tried the live cd.  After installing and starting the system, it automatically offered to install a driver (system -> administration -> hardware drivers), and then it started working.
[17:56] <Shane__> great thanks halabund
[17:56] <nikhil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268663/, can you check it please>
[17:56] <jems> Aviram: Search for the ALSA latest drivers in ubuntu forums
[17:56] <Shane__> ill try that out
[17:57] <azlon> how do i uninstall an application? sudo apt-get uninstall skype?
[17:57] <The-Druid_> got my hd partitioned and installed ubuntu, but grub won't kick in, only windows
[17:58] <The-Druid_> how can i fix it?
[17:58] <warriorforgod> azlon sudo apt-get remove application
[17:58] <joeb3_> azlon, apt-get remove skype
[17:59] <DeathMetalDean> how do I install songbird? I downloaded it from their website and got the tar.gz file... and I extracted it but nothing came up in the sound & video menu for me to select it, I tried to open in it in the terminal as well but it was unknown
[18:00] <azlon> ugh, got disconnected
[18:00] <azlon> how do i uninstall an application?
[18:00] <joeb3_> azlon, apt-get remove skype
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> !apt | azlon
[18:00] <jems> deathmetal: You have to compile it first
[18:00] <azlon> thanks
[18:00] <Hydrid> ilezilla   --> initializing TLS (and there it stacks)   -- what can possibly be wrong?
[18:02] <zvonkorp> i browsed to a folder with 20gb of crap inside of it in my filesystem that i didn't need anymore (as root), and i sent it to trash. then i deleted the trash, it seems like my filesystem got 20gb smaller
[18:02] <zvonkorp> are the files still there but hidden?
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> if you deleted the trash - it should be gond...
[18:03] <DeathMetalDean> how do I install songbird? I downloaded it from their website and got the tar.gz file... and I extracted it but nothing came up in the sound & video menu for me to select it, I tried to open in it in the terminal as well but it was unknown
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> DeathMetalDean:  cd to the dir.. and run the program
[18:04] <joeb3_> DeathMetalDean, did you want to compile it?
[18:04] <azlon> ok, i have uninstalled my old version of skype (2.0) and have downloaded the deb file for the new version (2.1) from skype.com. how can i execute that deb file as sudo? i have already navigated to the folder in a terminal window
[18:04] <thiebaude> DeathMetalDean, if you want a .deb for songbird ,getdeb has it
[18:04] <tuukkah> hi guys! does anyone know if it should still work with karmic to install with usb stick and syslinux?
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> songbird last i downloaded it was precompiled. i just had to run the right binary in that extracted directory
[18:04] <thestigmatic> if anyone has a moment and a suggestion. i'm struggling to get me wired connection working on my old laptop. something with DHCP.
[18:04] <xurxo> why doesnt my brand new HP make any sonds?
[18:04] <Z0rbo> Hi, I have a problem compiling source (flashrom) to a different target - x86_64 ubuntu, need to compile for ia32 - what do i need to do?#
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> tuukkah:  Unetbootin worked with karmic here.
[18:04] <DeathMetalDean> don't think there is a .deb for it :o
[18:04] <Flare183> xurxo: Sound driver?
[18:05] <Pici> !karmic | tuukkah
[18:05] <thiebaude> DeathMetalDean, on the getdeb site there is
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> DeathMetalDean:  its updated so much. I just use the tar.gz for my single user.. that uses songbird.
[18:05] <The-Druid_> got my hd partitioned and installed ubuntu, but grub won't kick in, only windows
[18:05] <The-Druid_> how can i fix it?
[18:05] <tuukkah> Dr_Willis, Pici, thanks
[18:06] <thiebaude> DeathMetalDean, http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=songbird
[18:06] <Flare183> !grub | The-Druid_
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> DeathMetalDean:  ive had issues with songbird not working dur to some gnome things missing at times. :(
[18:07] <DeathMetalDean> kk I'm downoading the 64bit jaunty one
[18:07] <DeathMetalDean> downloading*
[18:07] <joeb3_> DeathMetalDean, http://www.getdeb.net/download/4460/0
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> DeathMetalDean:  it dident work in karmic for me just now (i just downloaded/tried it)
[18:08] <DeathMetalDean> meh I was told its good for listening to radio lol
[18:08] <thestigmatic> any ideas for getting a wired connection to work? it seems like the one topic in the forums that no one will touch past a few basic suggestions. i can connect with a static so i'm certain something has gone wonky with obtaining an IP.
[18:08] <thiebaude> DeathMetalDean, i like it
[18:08] <DeathMetalDean> and joeb3_ is that 64bit?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> DeathMetalDean:  theres lots of other radio-stream apps like streamtuner and tunapie and others... :)
[18:09] <joeb3_> DeathMetalDean, http://www.getdeb.net/download/4461/0  is 64bit
[18:09] <thiebaude> !shoutcast
[18:09] <pshr> Windows Vs Ubuntu which one ?
[18:09] <DeathMetalDean> Dr_Willis: yeah I was using rhythmbox for radio streams, didnt work very well. joeb3_ Okay thanks I'll try it :D
[18:09] <thiebaude> pshr, let me see.........ubuntu 9.04
[18:10] <Z0rbo> Hi, I have a problem compiling source  to a different processor target - i'm on x86_64 ubuntu, need to compile for ia32 - what do i need to do?
[18:10] <pshr> thiebaude, your genuine reason for choosing it ? or is it just out of some personal interest
[18:11] <Stouniii> hey everyone, got a error message by installing ubuntu: wrong _bbn value, reboot and use option pci=no acpi; but when i use this option it says: mp-bios bug: 8254 timer not connected to io-apic ???
[18:11] <thiebaude> pshr, there are too many reasons to list here
[18:11] <pshr> well apart from BSOD, closed source give me reasons why win* slipped off ?
[18:12] <DeathMetalDean> joeb3_: Songbirds installed, thanks :D
[18:13] <Aviram> jems
[18:13] <Aviram> I cant get ALSA to compile
[18:13] <Aviram> any chance you'll upload your compiled? X_X
[18:13] <xurxo> Flare183. Sound driver? I dont even know which one i need. can you help me figure thisout
[18:13] <scoates> hi
[18:13] <pshr> !hi | scoates
[18:13] <nycrbot> 'afternoon, pshr
[18:14] <pshr> nycrbot, are you a bot :P
[18:14] <pshr> nycrbot, its night where i am right now
[18:14] <scoates> I'm trying to connect my iphone to my 9.04 server via PPTP. I've established connections, and I can even get from ppp0 (my iPhone) to IPs I have on eth0, but I can't get to anything external. Can someone give me a hand with the forwarding problem?
[18:14] <pshr> how ya doing
[18:15] <scoates> (I need some hints to push me in the right direction. I _think_ my bcrelay config is right, and I have ipv4_forward enabled... and an iptables rule for MASQ, but no luck)
[18:15] <Stouniii> no one an idea for my problem?
[18:16] <pshr> guess the channel's got not too many ubuntu lovers :P kidding
[18:16] <joeb3_> Stouniii, is that a virtualbox install?
[18:17] <isaac_> Hi there!  I don't know anything.  I found a simple script to make an asoundrc file on alsa asoundrc wiki http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/.asoundrc
[18:17] <joako> How can I get x11vnc to work? After I login it kicks me off
[18:17] <isaac_> But I don't know enough to know what to do with it.
[18:17] <Stouniii> no virtualbox install
[18:18] <Stouniii> joeb3_ no virtualbox install
[18:18] <joeb3_> Stouniii, ok. I've seen it with vbox.
[18:18] <jems> Aviram: Give me a sec I'm searching for the site I used.
[18:18] <Aviram> ok, thanks! :d
[18:19] <Stouniii> is it allowed to post urls?
[18:19] <brendan`> hey all, im cross posting this in #ltsp as well, but i have an interesting problem...  it seems that my either my NFS or NBD daemon on my ltsp server crashes almost every thursday/friday.  once it crashes the ltsp clients can no longer connect and the whole server starts becoming unresponsive (down to the point where I can't even login at the console, it hangs right after the motd).  does anyone have any clues as what
[18:19] <brendan`> could be happening? are there cron scripts that run on thursday or friday that might be causing some havok?
[18:20] <clearscreen> Stouniii: if it is related to your problem (or solving one) i don't see why not
[18:20] <Stouniii> ok, found some help on this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReschedulingInterrupts
[18:21] <Stouniii> but it doesnt work for me..
[18:21] <Stouniii> "Acpi and apic problems"
[18:22] <joako> I want to access an Ubuntu system remotly and see what is on the screen on the computer... how do I do this?
[18:22] <brendan`> joako: x11vnc
[18:22] <pshr> joako, VNC
[18:22] <|-Gobi-|> How i execute sudo via ssh? do I have echo the passwords etc?
[18:22] <pshr> !VNC
[18:22] <joako> And how do I make x11vnc run all the time?
[18:23] <pshr> !elaborate |-Gobi-|
[18:23] <brendan`> joako: put it in your startup scripts
[18:23] <joako> brendan: exactly where is that?
[18:23] <|-Gobi-|> I meant to say, that with bash script... like sudo apt-get update  etc
[18:24] <|-Gobi-|> ...i'll rephrase
[18:24] <brendan`> joako: /etc/rc.local is one place
[18:24] <lastent> hi, I just connected to a VPN. now I want to connect to some IP's using that connection, and to the rest using my internet connection, is this possible?
[18:24] <Pici> |-Gobi-|: Are you trying to automate running a script with root privelges?
[18:24] <|-Gobi-|> Pici: Yes, updates
[18:24] <brendan`> get your x11vnc setup first (apt-get install x11vnc)
[18:25] <G_A_C> lastent: yes, it's possible by changing your routing tables
[18:25] <Pici> |-Gobi-|: Just put the scripts into root's crontab (using sudo crontab -e) and they will run as root. You don't need to use sudo in the scripts then.
[18:25] <Stouniii> joeb3_ how you fixed it (vbox)
[18:25] <Aviram> any news, Jems?
[18:25] <lastent> G_A_C, can you help me doing it?
[18:25] <|-Gobi-|> Pici: ty
[18:25] <G_A_C> lastent: something like "sudo route add 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev vpn0" should do it, but I'm not sure of the exact syntax. also, it depends on what your VPN network adapter is called, on my laptop it's "csco0" or something
[18:26] <joako> brendan: And do you know exactly what I should put there? I aready tried in /etc/gdm/Init/Default and I can get the login screen but when I login the session dies
[18:26] <joeb3_> Stouniii, there is an option in vbox to disable acpi.
[18:28] <Stouniii> hmm okay, this does not function for me.. i disabled it but then i got another error
[18:28] <Stouniii> cant install, ubuntu :(
[18:28] <brendan`> joako: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=673126
[18:28] <hwilde> how do I get around the Unlock Keyring prompt for NetworkManagerApplet on bootup with autologin?
[18:28] <hwilde> "The application NetworkManager Applet wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked"
[18:30] <artistx> hi
[18:30] <G_A_C> hwilde: I think the only way would be either a blank keyring password, or to use something like wicd for your network configuration
[18:31] <Stouniii> is a RAID system a problem for the newes ubunut version?
[18:31] <duffydack> erm, odd question but whats the default mode intel in a dell mini 9, exa or xxa?  I set it to uxa and forgot what it "was" lol
[18:31] <hwilde> G_A_C, well what good is auto login if the first thing that pops up is a password prompt and there is no networking support?@$!@^%
[18:32] <G_A_C> hwilde: I just explained two ways you should be able to get around it, I didn't write NetworkManager you know ;)
[18:32] <joako> brendan: but I have many users I need it to be system-wide...
[18:33] <scott_ino2> Can anyone help me with a Powertop question, in regards to making sure the changes im making in powertop are set and constant so i don't have to keep making them
[18:33] <n8tuser> hwilde -> did you enable auto connect in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[18:33] <hwilde> G_A_C, can I just uninstall the keyring ?
[18:33] <G_A_C> hwilde: honestly, I'm not sure. I think the keyrings are a pretty integral part of Gnome so I don't know whether it would affect the way things run
[18:34] <nikhil> Unable to start deluge, reinstallation didnt help. please refer pastebin url when i tried to open deluge in terminal (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268680/)
[18:34] <hwilde> n8tuser, yes there are auto lines in the /etc/network/interfaces
[18:34] <n8tuser> hwilde -> and maybe even the scripts at /etc/network/if-up  stuff like that
[18:35] <hwilde> what I don't understand is this laptop has NEVER given me this prompt before
[18:35] <udzguru> hey there
[18:35] <n8tuser> hwilde or if-pre-up.d
[18:35] <hwilde> with normal login, it boots up and gets online with no prompts
[18:35] <hwilde> with auto login, it is stuck on this keyring
[18:35] <hwilde> so auto login is useless because the first thing that pops up is a password prompt anyways!
[18:35] <n8tuser> look also into  /etc/pam.d
[18:35] <x[x]> hmm
[18:36] <n8tuser> pam.d controls those settings
[18:36] <udzguru> i just configured one of my network cards via the network manager applet, is there a way to reconfigure that interface now via ssh?
[18:36] <x[x]> i just did a massive update for ubuntu 9.04 and it freezes on start up
[18:36] <x[x]> hp mini 2133
[18:36] <sylverfox> hi
[18:36] <n8tuser> udzguru -> yes, are you remotely logged into the remote server?
[18:37] <udzguru> i am logged on via another network interface over ssh
[18:37] <udzguru> but if i change /etc/network/interfaces and do /etc/init.d/networking restart nothing happens :(
[18:38] <JuJuBee> My GUI seems to be frozen (mouse still moves) but I can ssh into the computer.  How can I restart the GUI without rebooting?
[18:38] <hwilde> JuJuBee, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:38] <JuJuBee> Thanks, I will try it.
[18:39] <JuJuBee> Nope, frozen programs still display
[18:39] <JuJuBee> mouse still moves though.
[18:39] <n8tuser> udzguru -> you dont want to use /etc/init.d/networking restart or that will knock your ssh login too, use individual ifup/ifdown to bring utilize the nic
[18:39] <zyxxy> is there any command to list all running 32 bit processes?
[18:39] <SingAlong> i have a ubuntu laptop and an ubuntu desktop. both connected via LAN. how do i share files between them?
[18:40] <hwilde> !samba > SingAlong
[18:40] <n8tuser> zyxxy -> use the of ps command
[18:40] <scott_ino2> SingAlong, I actually suggest nfs over samba, however samba will work just fine
[18:40] <n8tuser> hwilde -> did you look into what i suggested  pam.d ?
[18:40] <SingAlong> hwilde: i use ubuntu on both my computers.
[18:40] <udzguru> ok. so what would be right if i would like to restart eth0? sudo ifconfig eth0 ifdown?
[18:40] <n8tuser> zyxxy -> usageof the ps command
[18:40] <SingAlong> scott_ino2: do i need samba even if i have ubuntu on both?
[18:41] <zyxxy> n8tuser: ok, so ps has a command to show the architecture? that helps, thanks
[18:41] <n8tuser> please responders include the nick of whom you're chatting with or it will get lost
[18:41] <scott_ino2> SingAlong, no, but samba is one way to do it
[18:41] <hwilde> SingAlong, well you could just scp the files
[18:41] <hwilde> n8tuser, i'm lookin...
[18:41] <SingAlong> hwilde: oh ya! i didnt know that that.
[18:41] <JuJuBee> hwilde : restart kdm did not work... Im using kde
[18:41] <n8tuser> udzguru -> you have to have a root priviledge yes to manipulate nics,  ifup or ifdown
[18:42] <daaniel_101> or ftp across
[18:42] <scott_ino2> SingAlong, for simple transfers you can use the application "Giver" which works decently well
[18:42] <udzguru> n8tuser: yes i do have root privileges
[18:42] <SingAlong> hwilde: i thought scp was only for remote servers
[18:42] <SingAlong> scott_ino2: hwilde thanks!
[18:42] <n8tuser> udzguru -> man ifup or ifdown for more explanation  and compare that to ifconfig command
[18:42] <scott_ino2> SingAlong, np
[18:43] <nikhil>  Unable to start deluge, reinstallation didnt help. please refer pastebin url when i tried to open deluge in terminal (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268680/)
[18:43] <udzguru> n8tuser: thanks a lot. it seems to work now
[18:43] <zyxxy> n8tuser: ok, any hint? man ps doesn't have anything on architecture
[18:43] <pshr> !deluge
[18:44] <vanhellsing> hi
[18:44] <pshr> !hi
[18:44] <nycrbot> hello, pshr!
[18:44] <jems> I need help changing the brightness on my laptop (dv3 2102Tu) it's at 140%  all the time...I'm going blind and nothing seems to work
[18:45] <udzguru> n8tuser: works like a charm. thanks a lot!
[18:45] <pshr> jems, imho I 'Think' it has some thing to do with xorg.conf
[18:45] <pshr> not sure thogh
[18:46] <badmox_> hi i have forgotten the name of the ubuntu alpha/beta channel can someone tell me the name
[18:46] <kothog> I've just reformatted a partition as a JFS partition in 8.04-desktop. vol_id lists the UUID as X. However, X does not exist in /dev/disk/by-uuid/X. How do I tell the machine to rescan and re-populate the /dev/disk/by-uuid/* tree?
[18:46] <|-Gobi-|> Dumb question: Are other user files readable by other users? Like normal user can read xorg.conf but cannot save... is this same to all?
[18:47] <pshr> |-Gobi-|, it all depends on how you se the permissions
[18:47] <dsfghadas> anyone tell me how to turn services of perminent at line command ?
[18:47] <pshr> root user has the ability tochange the permissions
[18:47] <rai> ﻿i have got a problem in my fire fox browser in ubuntu. It is getting stuck frequently...i face the same problem with pidgin.It will get hang for sometime during which the screen becomes black and white
[18:47] <|-Gobi-|> pshr: ty. Are they by default readable?
[18:47] <dsfghadas> instead of /etc/init.d/<service> stop
[18:47] <pshr> umask by default is 022 => they are
[18:48] <|-Gobi-|> pshr: ty :D
[18:48] <rai> ﻿i have got a problem in my fire fox browser in ubuntu. It is getting stuck frequently...i face the same problem with pidgin.It will get hang for sometime during which the screen becomes black and white
[18:48] <kothog> dsfghadas: you could delete the symlinks in the rc*.d/servicename directories.
[18:49] <badmox_> rai i think flash is the problem i have the same
[18:49] <dsfghadas> how do i know which rc.*.d it is ?
[18:49] <daaniel_101> who -r
[18:49] <Pici> dsfghadas: sudo update-rc.d servicename remove
[18:49] <joeb3_> dsfghadas, look in /etc/rc2.d.  Remove the file that starts the service.
[18:49] <kothog> ls -liad /etc/rc*.d/servicename
[18:49] <scott_ino2> rai, it's simply hanging on something that it's trying to process i.e. flash
[18:49] <pshr> kothog, do you think linking of command service in /etc/bin or sbin has some thing to do with that
[18:49] <kothog> pshr: no
[18:49] <rai> badmox how can i overcome this problem?
[18:49]  * pshr hmmm
[18:50] <kothog> pshr: unless I'm misunderstanding your question.
[18:50] <dsfghadas> pici that will work with any service ?
[18:50] <lewis_> hello
[18:50] <pshr> !hi | lewis_
[18:50] <nycrbot> good afternoon pshr
[18:50] <Pici> dsfghadas: It should.
[18:50] <scott_ino2> rai, not really a solution, but try turning off desktop effects from System/Preferences/appearance and see if you get the same results
[18:50] <m0ar> When i try to switch to TwinView on my laptop the other screen activates but the Taskbar is frozen in place where it originally was, no matter the settings, and totally uninteractable.. Why is this, and does anyone have a solution?  Using Linux Mint (Ubuntu Jaunty) and GNOME+Emerald
[18:50] <dsfghadas> but i dont want to remove the service just stop it
[18:50] <scott_ino2> rai, so we can rule out a compositing issue
[18:50] <scott_ino2> however id on't think there should be any
[18:51] <hwilde> n8tuser, I don't see anything useful in pam.d
[18:51] <presumida> hi ,please  1 question: i'm installing ubuntu on an EFI based system, will the 'common assistant' install everything well? redundant gpt in the end of disk included?
[18:51] <dsfghadas> could i just chmod -x /etc/init.d/cups  ?
[18:51] <daaniel_101> how do i play dvd on ubuntu desktop 8 or 9?
[18:51] <Pici> dsfghadas: You just said you wanted to stop it permanently? Use sudo invoke-rc.d servicename stop if you just want to stop it
[18:51] <hwilde> n8tuser, there is an entry for gdm-autologin, but that part works,  how do I auto-keyring for the network manager?
[18:51] <hwilde> daaniel_101, just insert the dvd
[18:51] <badmox_> rai live with it 50%cpu firefox with flash 8(
[18:51] <dsfghadas> ok thanks pici
[18:51] <lewis_> does anybody know how to connect to a wireless access point on Damn Small linux
[18:52] <daaniel_101> i've installed vlc but it hangs, dvd is inserted
[18:52] <pshr> lewis_, i just tried DSL Once
[18:52] <badmox_>  i have forgotten the name of the ubuntu alpha/beta channel can someone tell me the name
[18:52] <Pici> badmox_: #ubuntu+1
[18:52] <brianmc_> I'm trying to get dir2ogg working to convert lossless wma to ogg. Installed with 'sudo apt-get install dir2ogg' even following restart it gives error 'Error: wma was enabled, but no decoder has been found.'
[18:52] <n8tuser> hwilde -> i have not looked into that for a while, but a you know pam.d control lots of authentication, so i may have to dig up whats in there
[18:52] <badmox_> pici thx
[18:52] <Myrtti> lewis_: how about you ask on a DSL channel?
[18:52] <joeb3_> daaniel_101, install libdvdread4 and run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[18:52] <lewis_> ok thanks
[18:53] <hwilde> well what good is auto-login if network manager still prompts for a login ... :((
[18:53] <Pici> lewis_: Its #damnsmalllinux
[18:53] <pshr> lewis_, #dsl
[18:53] <kothog> dsfghadas: yes, the rc*.d directories are what start services on most linux systems.
[18:53] <daaniel_101> thank you joeb3, i will do that....
[18:53] <RootChaos[h]> ello
[18:53] <dsfghadas> yeah im not used to the debian setup kothog
[18:54] <dsfghadas> wanted to check
[18:54] <n8tuser> hwilde -> you can log on okay without password but networking is not activated?
[18:54] <hwilde> n8tuser, YES
[18:54] <Dulgan_> Hi all, any french here?
[18:54] <hwilde> n8tuser, auto-login works fine, but then the networm manager applet pops up a password prompt for the keyring
[18:54] <kothog> dsfghadas: it's the same idea as on RedHat. It's a System V derivative.
[18:54] <n8tuser> hwilde any hints from /etc/nework/if-pre-up.d or if-up.d  scripts?
[18:54] <ManDay> Can I replace the ugly ubuntu start button with something else?
[18:54] <scott_ino2> Dulgan_, there's should be a separate french channel
[18:54] <Dulgan_> Bonsoir tout le monde, aucun francophone ici?
[18:55] <hwilde> n8tuser, it's the NetworkManager Applet requesting access to the keyring.  doesn't seem related to if scripts
[18:55] <pshr> ManDay, try customizing in changebackground>
[18:55] <kothog> Dulgan_: non..  oops.
[18:55] <ManDay> dsl Dulgan_ il faut parler anglais
[18:55] <Dulgan_> Anyone know how to join a french channel?
[18:55] <hwilde> !fr
[18:55] <lewis_> there was nobody on that server
[18:55] <kothog> join #ubuntu-french
[18:55] <pshr> Dulgan_, join a french network may be
[18:55] <Dulgan_> Thanks a lot!
[18:55] <ManDay> pshr, come again?
[18:55] <Pici> lewis_: Well, DSL isn't on topic here
[18:55] <kothog> er..  ubuntu-fr. :)
[18:55] <lewis_> ok
[18:55] <pshr> ManDay, right click on the desktop
[18:55] <lewis_> cya
[18:56] <pshr> changebacground>Themes>customize>icons
[18:56] <pshr> its in some order like that ManDay
[18:56] <hwilde> n8tuser, in System-> Pref -> Encryption and Keyrings there is a dropdown that says  Default key:  None, Prompt for a key.   But there are no other drop-down options
[18:56] <n8tuser> hwilde have a look somewhere in /etc/udev.d  rules
[18:57] <ManDay> pshr, anyway to customize a litttle ... more? for example change proportions of this button?
[18:57] <ManDay> make it more like the windows button - wider than high etc
[18:57] <hwilde> n8tuser, the devices come up fine, I don't think it's related to udev at all
[18:58] <pshr> ManDay, no idea..
[18:58] <n8tuser> hwilde i dont remember off hand, doesnt the udev rules trigger something too? so it may trigger something related to keyring?
[18:59] <hwilde> n8tuser, I dunno i'm about to rip out the network manager.
[19:00] <n8tuser> hwilde -> i think i have mine disabled, so i will always gets a red X on my icon, as i do enable/disable via command line
[19:00] <m0ar> Any ideas on how to fix a frozen taskbar when trying to use TwinView?
[19:02] <scott_ino2> bought an issue of linux format today... not realizing it was $17...
[19:02] <scott_ino2> because it's printed in the UK
[19:03] <n8tuser> hwilde -> here's a link i peeked at http://www.goitexpert.com/general/disable-login-to-wireless-wifi-in-ubuntu/
[19:07] <wharp> does anybody know of a file recovery program that will let me search for deleted files by directory?
[19:07] <Guest79424> nudy
[19:07] <roffe> Is it an ubuntu or a ubuntu?
[19:07] <Myrtti> roffe: u is a vowel
[19:08] <Guest73487> Hi to all i have a problem with symbols on my notebook keyboard... I have a fujitsu amilo Pi1505... All worked fine until 10 minutes ago... Is there a button to change symbols_ Help me plz
[19:08] <roffe> Myrtel: Sure, but it's what's pronounced that matters, and I'm not sure you pronounce the U as a vowel
[19:09] <roffe> Myrtti I mean
[19:09] <light> Hey all
[19:10] <szczym> i have problem with no output from lsusb in interepid server, could some one help me, please
[19:10] <MTec007> Hello every body. Small little quirk I'm trying to work out. The clock preferences say that it can display temp and weather but it does not even with locations filled out.
[19:12] <Guest73487>  Hi to all i have a problem with symbols on my notebook keyboard... I have a fujitsu amilo Pi1505... All worked fine until 10 minutes ago... Is there a button to change symbols_ Help me plz
[19:12] <hwilde> n8tuser, that looks promising, but totally not the same as my /etc/pam.d/gdm file
[19:12] <scott_ino2> MTec007, jsut for starters... try a different location
[19:13] <scott_ino2> mine shows the temperature correctly
[19:13] <ManDay> Is there a way to _completely_ authide the gnome panel?
[19:14] <ManDay> So that it doesnt remain a few pixels on screen
[19:15] <darkvega8>  anybody with experience on USB intallation? I want to know how much space is left if casper-rw
[19:16] <MTec007> scott_ino2, ive tried using a different location but its still not displaying anything besides the clock
[19:16] <brendan`> scott_ino2: linux format is a great magazine though
[19:16] <scott_ino2> MTec007, it should show the current weather icon and temp in digital format on the panel
[19:17] <scott_ino2> next to where it shows the time
[19:17] <scott_ino2> brendan`, and yes it is
[19:17] <n8tuser> hwilde -> well yes because you are adding another libpam library that may not be availble now on your system.. libpam-keyring
[19:17] <scott_ino2> brendan`, worth it I suppose.. i could get a subscription
[19:17] <Valarauca> #li
[19:17] <hwilde> n8tuser, I mean the structure of /etc/pam.d/gdm is completely foreign compared to that example
[19:17] <MTec007> there is just a blank space on the left side of the clock
[19:17] <scott_ino2> ManDay, not directly, however you might b3e able to adjust it's settings from the configuration editor
[19:18] <ManDay> scott_ino2, i set it to 0 but then it doesnt come up anymore when i hover over it with my mouse
[19:18] <scott_ino2> ManDay, what happens when you set to 1?
[19:18] <CyberGabber> ManDay: http://atunu.blogspot.com/2008/02/how-to-hide-taskbar-aka-gnome-panel.html
[19:18] <darkvega8>  anybody with experience on USB intallation? I want to know how much space is left if casper-rw
[19:18] <scott_ino2> do you get 1 pixel
[19:19] <hermitcrabred> Hi everyone...!
[19:19] <ManDay> scott_ino2, same. i have to set it at least to 4 to get it up again
[19:19] <Zachk18> what up
[19:19] <n8tuser> hwilde it looks same, you are basically @including a new libpam
[19:19] <scott_ino2> ManDay, take a look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-panel/+bug/82504
[19:19] <ulb> is there a way to add text launchers to the gnome toolbar (no icon)?
[19:19] <darkvega8>  anybody with experience on USB intallation? I want to know how much space is left if casper-rw
[19:20] <hermitcrabred> ...can someone tell me how can I get the newest version for Firefox...Thanks!
[19:20] <scott_ino2> ManDay, did you change the "size when hidden"
[19:20] <Misha> Hiya folks. An embarrassingly simple question. Suppose that I wanted to use Nautilus to list all the files in a directory *and* its subdirectories. How would I do this? The search-function doesn't seem to allow wildcards :(
[19:20] <hwilde> hermitcrabred, System-> Admin -> Update Manager
[19:20] <ManDay> scott_ino2, hm? you mean "auto_hide_size"?
[19:21] <darkvega8>  anybody with experience on USB intallation? I want to know how much space is left if casper-rw
[19:21] <hermitcrabred> Thanks hwilde , can I use the terminal too?
[19:21] <hwilde> n8tuser, here is my file, doesn't match:  http://pastebin.com/f39ee722e
[19:21] <scott_ino2> ManDay, no this says "size when hiden'
[19:21] <hermitcrabred> ...don`t know the command...
[19:21] <hwilde> hermitcrabred, sudo apt-get update;   sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:21] <scott_ino2> ManDay, take a look at the link i gave might get you pointed in the right directions ;-)
[19:21] <pranav> So what is the best way to automatically "startx" when I log in ?
[19:22] <clearscreen> hermitcrabred: install the firefox-3.5 package (sudo aptitude install firefox-3.5)
[19:22] <hermitcrabred> sweet!!!...let me go try!
[19:22] <Myrtti> pranav: install a graphical login manager?
[19:22] <ManDay> scott_ino2, something like that yeah
[19:22] <ManDay> ugly bugs
[19:22] <scott_ino2> ManDay, yup
[19:22] <clearscreen> pranav: install gdm
[19:22] <scott_ino2> sad because id on't use the autohide...
[19:22] <pranav> Myrtti, ok
[19:22] <n8tuser> hwilde very similar to mine, what am saying if you download that additional libpam-keyring  and added it as include it may solve it per the link
[19:23] <scott_ino2> ManDay, you could just get rid of the panel and use a different doc?
[19:23] <scott_ino2> but that's not a solution really...
[19:23] <ManDay> scott_ino2, a different doc?
[19:23] <hwilde> n8tuser, no worries.  I have already ripped out nm
[19:23] <scott_ino2> ManDay, doc bar
[19:24] <n8tuser> hwilde did it do what you were expecting? commented out the pam_gnome_keyring.so ?
[19:24] <hwilde> n8tuser, that whole thing seems bogus.
[19:24] <Aviram> I updated my ALSA but sound card wont work
[19:24] <Aviram> X_X
[19:25] <scott_ino2> ManDay, yes... you can add custom doc bars
[19:25] <scott_ino2> for instance... like one that resembles the OSX taskbar etc...
[19:25] <MTec007> Also, is there something I can do to fix this wifi problem I'm having? It seems that when ever I "overload" my network connection my wifi card will stop working and I need to reconnect to the network, or it will just disconnect me and then it will reconnect. I have to use ndiswrapper for my driver.
[19:25] <n8tuser> oh, okay, next time i do an install with auto login ill make a note of what settings for keyring so it does not prompt the user
[19:25] <ManDay> scott_ino2, where would i get these from?
[19:25] <scott_ino2> ManDay, just install them via synaptic, however i don't use them so i don't konw but hav3e tried a few let me find you some links
[19:26] <MrStein> Hi!
[19:26] <MrStein> How to revert the actiob of "kpartx -a somefile" ?  it is DM related...
[19:26] <n8tuser> MTec007 -> how did you determine you have overloaded your network connection?
[19:26] <hwilde> n8tuser, I believe installing libpam-keyring, deleting my keyring, making a new one attached to the ssid, and editing the pam.d script would resolve...  i'm just not interested in learning/breaking all of those systems
[19:26] <ManDay> scott_ino2, i prefer the gnome default stuff
[19:26] <ManDay> just need to get it to work
[19:26] <scott_ino2> ManDay, as do I
[19:26] <n8tuser> hwilde yah i agree, too much hacking for supposedly simple stuff
[19:27] <scott_ino2> but there are others you could try
[19:27] <MrStein> In other words , how to unmap entries in /dev/mapper/ ?
[19:27] <MTec007> i didnt. it just seems like it happens when im doing a lot.. on aim yahoo msn irc surfing web multiple tabs and playing pandora
[19:27] <ManDay> scott_ino2, i got compiz running - not sure how this would work with other stuff
[19:27] <scott_ino2> ManDay, need to run... best of luck
[19:27] <scott_ino2> compiz wont affect this
[19:27] <scott_ino2> so no worries
[19:28] <MTec007> n8tuser, but if i dont do a whole lot it will work fine.
[19:28] <n8tuser> MTec007 -> honestly i believe its the i/o interrupt servicing that i find troublesome, i had this experienced since 6.10, it freezes up the system back then if i fiddle with the network and cant connect, hosing the whole system
[19:28] <juannicolas> Hi guys, I have Ubuntu 8.04.1 server running and i wan't to know if high memory usage is normal?
[19:28] <pranav> what are some good alternatives for gnome-system-monitor ?
[19:29] <n8tuser> i/o interrrupt servicing seems still is unresolved
[19:29] <moonhead> what is ubiquity and can i remove the link between it in rcX.d and the file in /etc/init.d/ safely?
[19:29] <MTec007> i had the same problem with xubuntu.
[19:29] <SingAlong> can i install emacs 23 on ubuntu?
[19:29] <SingAlong> the pkg repo shown only emacs 22
[19:29] <MTec007> n8tuser, so theres nothing i can do at all
[19:30] <n8tuser> MTec007 -> nothing that i knew of when it comes to i/o servicing interrupts unless you can go down deep into coding,  i/o btw includes getting to your cd/dvd anything external
[19:30] <MTec007> SingAlong, you could do it manually from the emacs website?
[19:30] <ManDay> in gconf-editor i got "bottom_panel_screen0" AND "panel_1" in apps/panel/toplevels - i only got one panel though, that is the screen0 one - whats the other for?
[19:30] <n8tuser> MTec007 -> well at least thats been my experience with two computers i had..
[19:30] <SingAlong> MTec007: isnt the install complex? or is it the usual configure, make and make install?
[19:31] <Eire> Could you help me with a sound problem I am having with my laptop?
[19:31] <hwilde> n8tuser, it is just dumb that the enabling auto-login so it doesn't prompt for pw causes the network manager to prompt for password.
[19:31] <MTec007> SingAlong,  the usual
[19:31] <MTec007> n8tuser, can you confirm that your problems were with ndiswrapper or not?
[19:31] <SingAlong> MTec007: k thanks
[19:32] <moonhead> what is ubiquity?
[19:32] <jpds> moonhead: The Ubuntu Installer
[19:32] <Aviram> Eire, I have a sound problem to
[19:32] <MTec007> n8tuser, or confirm that both computers were using ndiswrapper?
[19:32] <Aviram> too*
[19:32] <Aviram> What's your sound problem?
[19:33] <Hypnoz> Eire - I noticed the ubuntu alsa and oss drivers aren't always the best.
[19:33] <moonhead> jpds> can i remove it from being called in rcX.d safely?
[19:33] <Eire> The speakerw will not mute, and I am getting garbled sound
[19:33] <MTec007> n8tuser,  i dont have a problem when im hard wired, only if im wireless
[19:33] <moonhead> i don't know why it would even be in there anyway
[19:33] <Aviram> What laptop do you have?
[19:34] <Eire> They do not mute when I plug in headphones, I have a sony Vaio, VGN0NR32s/s
[19:34] <Eire> VGN-NR32s/s
[19:34] <Hypnoz> You could try other sound drivers. Right click the speaker, choose properites, there should be a few available
[19:34] <pranav> are there any text based display manger for logging in an out ?
[19:35] <brian____> i need some  help i also have kde installed  so whenever i try to download a file threw synaptic i get a "kubuntu-docs"  error somthing about post install error
[19:35] <Eire> I tried that, it makes no difference what drivers I use
[19:35] <andres_> pranav,  cool question: let me know if you get answers for that
[19:36] <Hypnoz> Eire - has it ever worked with that laptop?
[19:36] <andres_> Eire... check with the live CD if it works
[19:36] <kudi> name a lightweight torrent client that uses gtk
[19:36] <kudi> or non bloated*
[19:37] <syntax1> hi all. ı have a question
[19:37] <Eire> With earlier versions of Ubuntu the sound was not garbled, but I could not get the Headphones to mute the main speekers
[19:37] <darkvega8>  anybody with experience on USB intallation? I want to know how much space is left if casper-rw
[19:37] <syntax1> ı dont remember root passwd
[19:37] <syntax1> please help me
[19:37] <kudi> eire: type alsamixer in the teriminal
[19:37] <stickboy> !ops
[19:37] <jpds> stickboy: Yes?
[19:37] <andres_> syntax, enter as single user. Google "GRUB single user"
[19:37] <jussi01> stickboy: ?
[19:37] <Myrtti> stickboy: hm?
[19:37] <stickboy> sorry for the ping, darkvega8 appears to be private chat spamming
[19:38] <darkvega8> no no
[19:38] <Eire> Ok I typed ALSAMIXER and an interface for sound control appears
[19:38] <darkvega8> not spam
[19:38] <darkvega8> sorry
[19:38] <Vss3RTq39ETX1> Need definitive command for turning on wi-fi on laptop.  Online instructions incomplete.
[19:38] <stickboy> so then how many people did that go out to?
[19:38] <darkvega8> i'm just eager for some reply
[19:38] <stickboy> since i wasn't even active in the chat, and far down the list. to receive a random private on a random topic appears to be spam to me
[19:39] <andres_> syntax1, google "GRUB single user" and see if you can do it
[19:39] <pranav> So I have "openbox" now without any display manager, is I install "fluxbox" and will run if I "startx" -openbox or fluxbox ?
[19:39] <ulb> is there a way to do text launchers on the gnome panel (withou icons)?
[19:39] <jussi01> stickboy: mind dropping by #ubuntu-ops for a moment?
[19:39] <pranav> So I have "openbox" now without any display manager, is I install "fluxbox" and will run if I "startx" -openbox or fluxbox ?
[19:39] <ulb> i.e. the panel would read "applications Places System Mail" etc etc
[19:39] <gOLDfeesh> hey what's that package that makes everything into debs once you install them? it's debian package I forget. it had auto-apt too
[19:40] <kudi> does any1 here use deluge?
[19:40] <mykol> Ok, I want to use Hibernate mode (I'm not having problems with that) but I don't like the apperance of the login screen. I want to change it to the Custom login screen that normally appears during a normal boot. Any ideas on how to change that?
[19:40] <An_Onion> is there a solid release date for 9.10 yet?
[19:40] <brian____> can someone take a look at this and see if they know whats going on  http://pastebin.com/m4bc330c6
[19:41] <mykol> Ok, I want to use Hibernate mode (I'm not having problems with that) but I don't like the apperance of the login screen. I want to change it to the Custom login screen that normally appears during a normal boot. Any ideas on how to change that?
[19:41] <raven> hi - i need a tool wich can make the computer to a telefone using an integrated (analogue) modem
[19:42] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:42] <juannicolas> high memory usage is normal!?
[19:42] <subone> Is it possible to make my window manager remember where my window last was? I close firefox on screen 2 and when I reopen it, it appears on screen 1 everytime
[19:42] <davix> I'm trying to get some help with ubuntustudio but no one in that channel seems to be responsive, I've download and burned a DVD installation disc. first time it failed integrity check with a file, the i burned it again and it failed with the same file. I can conclude the iso is broken. but is there a way to tell the install CD to go to online repositories instead of reading the apps from the CD?
[19:42] <andres_> juannicolas, define "high". 300Mb for Firefox, it is
[19:43] <sebsebseb> juannicolas: I just joined high memory usage for what?  Firefox?
[19:43] <juannicolas> http://pastebin.com/m5ff3ed83
[19:43] <evident> can anybody tell me in which folder my mysql data is stored? I have an old backup folder with a data subfolder, from which I want to copy a database. Now I need the location of my mysql folder in my filesystem
[19:43] <andres_> davix, I use ubuntustudio sometimes... I don't know a way to do that... but wouldn't it be better to just install ubuntu and then add the ubuntustudio-thingys?
[19:43] <Vss3RTq39ETX1> Need instructions on enabling wi-fi on GW MX6436 runing Ubuntu Studio 8 (Hardy?)
[19:43] <juannicolas> server running various dab and other stuff and always the momery is high
[19:44] <juannicolas> DB*
[19:44] <raven> hi - i need a tool wich can make the computer to a telefone using an integrated (analogue) modem
[19:44] <subone> evident: have you tried #mysql?
[19:44] <ManDay> I try to get my desktop and windows to look nice but dont get far there. I tried a lot of files from gnome-look.org but all they usually do is change my colors. i want them to change EVERYTHING, like colors AND icons. it annoys me that when i download a blue theme the icons remain "human orange". what would i need to get the full styleset?
[19:44] <evident> no i thought this would be more linux-specific than mysql
[19:44] <evident> but i'll ask there
[19:44] <Vss3RTq39ETX1> re MsSQL, the files are under c:\mysql\(dbname)\ and have special significance in the file system - cannot just move them.
[19:44] <andres_> juannicolas, decime proceso por proceso, tell process by process
[19:45] <juannicolas> andres_ do you want a copy of my top?
[19:45] <andres_> do a "ps axu"
[19:45] <evident> is there a way to get the database tables out of the old files I have?
[19:45] <andres_> More like what is the program that is using so much memory
[19:45] <fccf> !changethemes | ManDay
[19:45] <MTec007> andres_, 300mb? wow. only at 185mb here and that is including various tabs, and pandora with a flash player.
[19:45] <carloscode> hey, can I post an error log here on the channel?
[19:45] <abhi69> hello all
[19:46] <abhi69> how r u?
[19:46] <fccf> !pastebin | carloscode
[19:46] <andres_> 185Mb is approx 200Mb. 300Mb is not strange for firefox with lots of flash players in fullscreen
[19:46] <mykol> Ok, I want to use Hibernate mode (I'm not having problems with that) but I don't like the apperance of the login screen. I want to change it to the Custom login screen that normally appears during a normal boot. Any ideas on how to change that?
[19:46] <juannicolas> anders__ http://pastebin.com/d78085943
[19:46] <juannicolas> sorry
[19:46] <juannicolas> andres_ http://pastebin.com/d78085943
[19:46] <subone> evident: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411338
[19:46] <carloscode> thnx
[19:46] <Vss3RTq39ETX1> re: MySQL, sorry - that was for Sql Server (MsSQL).
[19:46] <davix> andres_, I guess (?) I didn't really know it's possible, i'll try that method. thanks!
[19:46] <abhi69> i hav a question
[19:46] <abhi69> i hav goffice
[19:46] <fccf> !ask | abhi69
[19:46] <gOLDfeesh> how do I remove DECnet for Linux?
[19:47] <mykol> Ok, I want to use Hibernate mode (I'm not having problems with that) but I don't like the apperance of the login screen. I want to change it to the Custom login screen that normally appears during a normal boot. Any ideas on how to change that?
[19:47] <Daremonai> hello, I want to write a script that goes recursively into folders, and unrars the *.rar file and 'mv's it to a certain directory.
[19:47] <abhi69> is there any presentation software (like oo impress/power point) for gnome?
[19:48] <Pricey> abhi69: there is oo impress.
[19:48] <andres_> juannicolas, I really don't use mysql, but it's what is using 1,5Gb of RAM...
[19:48] <subone> abhi69: you can use impress in gnome
[19:48] <andres_> I really don't know if that is normal, but anyway
[19:48] <carloscode> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268712/
[19:48] <evident> subone, thanks! that helped a lot!
[19:48] <abhi69> yes i know that
[19:48] <carloscode> libtool error on Ubuntu 8.04.. any clue?
[19:49] <abhi69> but i want to know is there any other software in ubuntu for doing this kind of job?
[19:49] <subone> abhi69: http://projects.gnome.org/agnubis/
[19:49] <abhi69> subone: is it in ubuntu repo.?
[19:49] <juannicolas> andres_ I have anothr server without any DB running and also is using to much memory, I'm starting to think ubuntu is suppost ro work that way.
[19:50] <Vss3RTq39ETX1> ... still looking for answer on how-to toggle/enable wi-fi in Ubuntu.
[19:50] <subone> doubt it, it doesnt appear to still be being worked on
[19:50] <kudi> how do i get rid of the system beep
[19:50] <acemo> is it possible to give packages from deb http://software.virtualmin.com/gpl/debian/ virtualmin-lenny main and deb http://software.virtualmin.com/gpl/debian/ virtualmin-universal main priority over the default repositorys? (virtualmin wants to use the virtualmin-apache package instead of the ubuntu/debian version)
[19:50] <subone> kudi: earplugs 1.0
[19:50] <subone> j/k
[19:51] <sfdfsz> when i start x through gdm there is no text at all ? any ideas
[19:51] <andres_> juannicolas, don't know, really... Just yesterday downloaded mysql and such, to play a little
[19:51] <abhi69> is there any other presentation tool in ubuntu?
[19:51] <andres_> you should ask in #mysql or such just to check
[19:51] <fccf> acemo: you might want to try deb http://software.virtualmin.com/gpl/debian/ virtualmin-universal
[19:52] <Hypnoz> I'm using pidgin for irc ... .anyone using a nice mirc like client for irc or is pidgin the way to go?
[19:52] <hermitcrabred> I typed this on terminal: sudo aptitude install firefox-3.5 , this will update it to the newer one, right???
[19:52] <acemo> fccf: yeah thats what is added in my sources.list but ubuntu just uses the normal apache package
[19:52] <Hypnoz> herm --- sudo apt-get install ....
[19:52] <andres_> hermitcrabred, no, it will install 3.5 along with 3.0
[19:53] <Hypnoz> or to search package names, apt-cache search <name>
[19:53] <andres_> (at least, that's what it did here)
[19:53] <sfdfsz> Hypnoz try xchat or for a text based on irssi
[19:53] <Hypnoz> k thx
[19:53] <G-man> do you have to have a 64-bit to run virtual box
[19:53] <G-man> ?
[19:54] <Hypnoz> no, but to virtualize 64 bit your cpu needs to support it
[19:54] <fccf> acemo: couldn't you use the default webmin from ubuntu ... It allows for setting up of virtual servers
[19:54] <juannicolas> andres_ thx
[19:54] <sfdfsz> when i start x through gdm there is no text at all what i do ?
[19:54] <Cpudan80> G-man: no
[19:54] <Hypnoz> you have to have an option in the bios called VT or Virtualization Technology
[19:54] <andres_> de nada, juannicolas
[19:54] <Hypnoz> or something along those lines
[19:54] <Hypnoz> usually its disabled
[19:54] <Cpudan80> Hypnoz: no and no
[19:54] <Cpudan80> You dont need anything special to do it
[19:54] <G-man> k
[19:54] <acemo> fccf there is only 1 install script that automagically finds out your linux distro
[19:54] <Cpudan80> you can even virtualize 64 bit on 32 bit machines with the newest VBox
[19:55] <fccf> abhi69: look in symphony from Lotus -- it is in the repository
[19:55] <Hypnoz> for many cpu's you need to enable VT in the bios to support virtualizing 64bit vms
[19:55] <iceroot> Cpudan80: but with a very bad performance
[19:55] <G-man> what is the shortcut to open a terminal
[19:55] <Cpudan80> iceroot: well yeah ...
[19:55] <abhi69> fccl: thanz for info.
[19:55] <Hypnoz> and some older cpu's that support 64bit installs don't support 64 bit virtual machines
[19:55] <abhi69> i will try it
[19:57] <Ykt> awe]]
[19:57] <Ykt> tem alguem ai
[19:57] <fccf> acemo: what you are trying to do (the method) isn't officially supported
[19:58] <acemo> fccf: i just installed ubuntu server on my comp and downloaded and ran the install.sh script from virtualmin
[19:58] <MTec007> Vss3RTq39ETX1, turn wifi off: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down             and to turn wifi on: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:58] <guntbert> fccf: webmin isn't supported at all on ubuntu/debian
[19:58] <syntax1> so how can installing KDE desktop?
[19:59] <subone> I installed SWFDec through firefox and flash movies arent playing
[19:59] <iceroot> syntax1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:59] <G-man> so if im on xubuntu, and i download a ubuntu 8.10 i'll be able to run it the same right?
[19:59] <abhi69> subone: why don't u try flashplugins-nonfree?
[19:59] <Pici> acemo, fccf: And using Debian repositories on Ubuntu is not supported as well.
[19:59] <G-man> virtual box
[19:59] <subone> abhi69: i will
[19:59] <ManDay> Guys I'm looking for a minimal replacement for the default gnome-panels. It should provide autohide, adopt to the current theme and .. most important ... work flawlessly!
[19:59] <iceroot> subone: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:59] <ManDay> any suggestiosn?
[20:00] <cubix7_> how do you build a custom kernel
[20:00] <Pici> !kernel | cubix7_
[20:00] <abhi69> subone: use it, it will work better than SWFdec
[20:00] <MTec007> subone, flashplugins-nonfree plays flash scripted movies better than the other options
[20:00] <Hypnoz> ManDay -- agreed gnome-panels sucks
[20:00] <sfdfsz> when i start x through gdm there is no text at all ? any ideas
[20:00] <acemo> Pici: yeah... well... wasn't really my choise to use debian repositories... the install.sh script picked it! (aperently ubuntu looks alot like debian)
[20:01] <ManDay> Hypnoz, yep. How do you get along with it?
[20:01] <iceroot> acemo: ubuntu is based on debian (unstable)
[20:01] <subone> Is it still slow?
[20:01] <paulocesar> hi, somebody know how can I remove an startup item from kde?
[20:01] <subone> I've always noticed flash much slower on Ubuntu than Windows
[20:01] <iceroot> subone: yes, slower then the windows-version
[20:01] <Hypnoz> I configured it enough that is is usable. I made my tasks group similar, and moved my icons around how I wanted them then locked them
[20:01] <|-Gobi-|> is there a method to find out if reboot is required after apt-get dist-upgrade in terminal?
[20:01] <Hypnoz> its not sexy by any means, but it works
[20:01] <sebsebseb> subone: yes  Flash  can have issues on  Ubuntu
[20:01] <subone> Why is that?
[20:01] <sebsebseb> subone: ,because they haven't made it properly for Linux
[20:02] <MTec007> subone, i dont know if its slower than windows or not, but it plays pandora fine
[20:02] <ManDay> Hypnoz, unfortunally it doesnt quite work for me. at least autohide doesnt properly.
[20:02] <acemo> iceroot: true.. that might be why ubuntu 9.04 looks like debian to the virtualmin install script
[20:02] <ManDay> I once liked fluxbox very very much
[20:02] <Hypnoz> I've seen some people replace panels with an apple style dock tray
[20:02] <iceroot> |-Gobi-| no, but if you are using diat-upgrade, you always need to reboot (with upgrade you dont need to reboot)
[20:02] <ManDay> but unfortunally, compiz will not work with thatill it
[20:02] <subone> I want to be able to watch videos online and such, without everyone saying, why is it so crappy?
[20:02] <Myrtti> iceroot: check your facts :-(
[20:02] <iceroot> |-Gobi-|: or with other words, upgrade only come with dist-upgrade are needing a reboot
[20:03] <iceroot> Myrtti: not true?
[20:03] <ManDay> Especially, I'd like to find a panel which can be docked to the side of the screen and still display peorperly
[20:03] <|-Gobi-|> iceroot: ty, follow up, is there a method to find out if kernel update is availeble?
[20:03] <|-Gobi-|> iceroot: in terminal again
[20:03] <syntax1> so ım not running compiz fusion what ı need?
[20:04] <subone> What about my first question... How do I make Firefox/AnyProgram open up on the same screen it was before i closed it last?
[20:04] <Myrtti> iceroot: you may or may not need to reboot after aptitude dist-upgrade
[20:04] <Myrtti> iceroot: it's not a given
[20:04] <iceroot> |-Gobi-|: sudo apt-get upgrade -s
[20:04] <|-Gobi-|> iceroot: ty
[20:04] <iceroot> |-Gobi-|: also have a look at apticron if you want to be cofirmed about updates by mail
[20:05] <giacinto> ciao a tutti
[20:05] <iceroot> Myrtti: hm, if i am correct, there al libc, kernel and so on updates with dist-upgrade
[20:05] <fccf> !it | giacinto
[20:06] <iceroot> Myrtti: and upgrade is giving you "normal" updates, not for kernel, libc or something like that
[20:06] <MTec007> Myrtti, iceroot, have either of you NOT had to reboot after a dist-upgrade?
[20:06] <sebsebseb> subone: it's closed source, so only Adobe can do something proper about it being  not so good, on Linux
[20:06] <MTec007> :)
[20:06] <sebsebseb> subone: You only want Flash for videos?
[20:06] <enherit> how can I fix this? bash unnecessarily escapes colon in tab completion, i.e., chown admin\:
[20:07] <Myrtti> MTec007: sure.
[20:07] <subone> sebsebseb: at the very least Flash should be able to play videos fluidly
[20:07] <MTec007> Myrtti, really? I havn't have that happen yet
[20:07] <iceroot> Myrtti: ah ok i was reading the manpage and i was wrong
[20:07] <MTec007> Myrtti, but I havent used ubuntu for long
[20:07] <sebsebseb> subone: that's also something that annoys me about Flash,  how  really  there are better things that can be used for video on websites.   The video  feature got added quite a lot later on, as far as I know, and so for  years  it  coudn't do video
[20:08] <Zachk18> adobe has a flash version for ubuntu
[20:08] <zvonimir> my file system says i have 5gb of space left, earlier today i deleted a folder with 20 gb of random crap i didn't need (right click > send to trash, sudo into nautilus) - then right click trash and hit empty, but... i didn't get any more free space
[20:08] <sebsebseb> subone: as far as I know, Flash was never really designed, to be used for  videos on websites
[20:08] <MTec007> sebsebseb, like HTML 5.
[20:08] <sebsebseb> mcasadevall: yes exactly
[20:08] <Pici> iceroot: All a dist-upgrade does is pull in packages that have new dependencies, it just so happens that this is often done for kernel upgrades.
[20:08] <sebsebseb> subone: you can try  Gnash and Swfdec if you want,  they are alternatives to Adobe Flash
[20:08] <iceroot> zvonimir: sudo nautilus will give you the trash from root not from your user
[20:09] <Pici> !gksudo | iceroot zvonimir
[20:09] <sebsebseb> subone: I think that both of them can probably handle Youtube videos and such now
[20:09] <iceroot> Pici: yes, i was reading the manpage
[20:09] <iceroot> Pici: dont tell me, i know gksudo, just telling him why he dont get more free space
[20:09] <sebsebseb> mcasadevall: messaged wrong one
[20:09] <sebsebseb> MTec007: see above
[20:09] <NielsE> I installed windows 7, now grub isnt there anymore (doh), but the recovery cd sais only sda1 sda2 and sda5 are present, but I had like 10 partitions! what to do?
[20:09] <Pici> iceroot: You suggested using sudo nautilus, thats not correct.
[20:10] <MTec007> sebsebseb, yeah but they still have issues working with flash movies with actionscripting.
[20:10] <subone> i just got an error on a website about the flashnonfree: To watch this video, you need Flash 10
[20:10] <subone> You have an old version of Flash. Click here to download the latest version.
[20:10] <iceroot> Pici: i didnt, just read his post and my
[20:10] <iceroot> Pici: i was just quoting him
[20:10] <sebsebseb> subone: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:10] <sebsebseb> subone: that is meant to get it from Adobe
[20:10] <fccf> zvonimir: in the future use gksudo ... you will find that trash in /root/.local/share/trash/file
[20:10] <CeJo> hello all I have a nvidia MCP73 sound card, just installed jaunty, how do I get sound working?
[20:11] <subone> "flashplugin-installer is already the newest version."
[20:11] <evident> can anybody tell me a tutorial on how to use "screen" in my zsh-terminal? I can't find one
[20:11] <CeJo> No sound works
[20:11] <azlon> i have my printer plugged into my ubuntu machine and using the machine as a print server. the printer scans also... is there any way to enable network scanning?
[20:11] <Pici> evident: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[20:11] <icefox> Anthony Mercatante hang out in here?
[20:11] <sebsebseb> subone: I was just told by someone that  they can be plaeyd in totem
[20:11] <mathix> Hi, I'm trying to install Mutella on Ubuntu
[20:11] <MTec007> subone, restart your browser?
[20:11] <Sicilia> hi i have 2 problem ,, first one i have ipod touch and i install ipod-convenience then i do ipod-touch-monut ,, i got this error : Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. so i do this command : sudo usermod -a -G fuse geek ,, and i got this msg : geek is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[20:12] <subone> MTec007: already did several times
[20:12] <evident> thanks, Pici
[20:12] <fccf> zvonimir: did you get that?
[20:12] <fccf> !gksudo | zvonimir
[20:12] <roland58> hi all
[20:12] <mathix> Hi, I'm trying to install Mutella on Ubuntu 9.04 and I'm getting an error saying install-recursive Error 1.  Can anyone help?
[20:12] <subone> sebsebseb: So does that mean I need to install a Totem Firefox plugin? im confused
[20:12] <roland58> !list
[20:12] <MTec007> well your error message sounds like maybe it came from youtube? and flashplugin-installer works on that site for me
[20:13] <subone> no its vimeo
[20:13] <MTec007> subone, its stange..
[20:13] <fccf> roland58: welcome to ubuntu support... Is there any thing we can help you with today?
[20:13] <sebsebseb> subone: no
[20:13] <mathix> fccf Hi, I've having problems when it comes to ''make'' a program I want to install
[20:13] <subone> hmmm, i think the old swfdec is still there
[20:14] <MTec007> subone, that site works too for me.
[20:14] <fccf> mathix: what program?
[20:14] <MTec007> subone, that may be an issue
[20:14] <Sicilia> hi i have 2 problem ,, first one i have ipod touch and i install ipod-convenience then i do ipod-touch-monut ,, i got this error : Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. so i do this command : sudo usermod -a -G fuse geek ,, and i got this msg : geek is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[20:14] <CeJo> is there q chqnnel for sound issues?
[20:14] <subone> uninstalling it
[20:14] <ManDay> stupid question: does ubuntu updates its kernel?
[20:14] <mathix> fccf I'm trying to install Mutella and the ./configure seems to work fine so I then type sudo make but it splits out a bunch of errors like INT_MAX was not declared in this scopre, install-recursive...
[20:14] <MTec007> subone, purge remove swfdec and flashplugin-installer and reinstall flashplugin-installer
[20:14] <subone> now its working
[20:15] <MTec007> :)
[20:15] <Pici> ManDay: If there are security updates, yes. We do not move from one major kernel version to the next during a release though.
[20:15] <MTec007> good to hear
[20:15] <sebsebseb> subone: there's some sort of sidebar or whatever for totem, where you can also play Flash
[20:15] <sebsebseb> subone: as long as the plugin is installed and activated
[20:16] <fccf> mathix: what you are trying to do isn't officially supported... you don't need to make mutella as it is already in the repositorys
[20:16] <mathix> how do I access it exactly?  I'm really a newb with Unix...
[20:16] <fccf> mathix: sudo apt-get install mutella
[20:17] <ManDay> Pici, so to update my kernel, i'd have to do what exactly? can i just get the latest binary of the kernel from somewhere?
[20:17] <ManDay> and just paste it in place?
[20:17] <mathix> fccf it says it couldn't find the package...
[20:17] <fccf> mathix: good learning book (free) www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[20:17] <Pici> ManDay: No.. just update Ubuntu like normal and you will get the latest kernel that is offered.
[20:17] <fccf> mathix: do sudo apt-get update
[20:17] <Pici> !latest | ManDay
[20:17] <Sicilia> hi i have 2 problem ,, first one i have ipod touch and i install ipod-convenience then i do ipod-touch-monut ,, i got this error : Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. so i do this command : sudo usermod -a -G fuse geek ,, and i got this msg : geek is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[20:18] <mathix> fccf: still can't find it.  Can you?
[20:18] <JohnLocke> when i try to disable or edit network connections from System > Preferences > Network Connections in 9.04 the "APPLY" button always gets inactivated. is there a reason for that?
[20:18] <CeJo> anyone here with an MCP73 nvidia driver?
[20:18] <joeb3_> Sicilia, what user did you create when you installed?
[20:18] <MTec007> fccf, I cant find it, tried cache search too
[20:18] <fccf> mathix: you will need to enable the universe repository from system>administration>software sources
[20:19] <fccf> !info mutella
[20:19] <pitput> How do i find broken packages? I go to broken packages in synaptic package manager but nothings there.
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[20:19] <fccf> mathix... doesn't look like it is in jaunty ... but hold on while I get you a package
[20:19] <zvonimir> so since i ran nautilus as sudo and deletd a 20gb folder, but the free space in my file system remains unchanged - how would i find the 20gb that are supposedely 'deleted'??
[20:19] <mathix> fccf thank you!
[20:20] <LordLandon> zvonkorp: did you "delete" it? or "move it to trash"?
[20:20] <zvonkorp> i moved it to trash, then right clicked on trash and hit empty - as sudo nautilus
[20:20] <zvonkorp> trash now reads empty, the folder isnt there anymore, but my free space is still unchanged :-/
[20:21] <LordLandon> zvonkorp: hm, weird. try searching for the name of the folder.
[20:21] <ww-joel-d> Good afternoon guys
[20:21] <Petengy> hi to all
[20:21] <pitput> How do i find broken packages? I go to broken packages in synaptic package manager but nothings there.
[20:21] <pranav> What should I install for the desktop image and icons for openbox ?
[20:21] <nkp> do i need an antivirus program with ubuntu and if so, which is best?
[20:22] <limefruit> Hi, I am to install Ubuntu on 27 PCs, they are old (but working), I need to use the minimal cd, how can I merge the minimal cd with the downloads that are downloaded during the minimal cd setup.
[20:22] <fccf> !info | gtk-gnutella
[20:22] <zvonkorp> it's not coming up in search, and i'm viewing hidden files LordLandon
[20:22] <fccf> !info gtk-gnutella
[20:22] <LordLandon> zvonkorp: do it via command line?
[20:22] <zvonkorp> 1 sec
[20:22] <ww-joel-d> I had a question for you.  I decided to use wubi to get ubuntu onto my laptop, but it seems fairly choppy...  Would partitioning my hdd speed up the OS
[20:22] <Petengy> I installed firefox 3.5 in a folder (without deinstall 3.01) but I'm not able to activate flash plugin.... someone have an idea ?
[20:22] <fccf> mathix: there it is same functionality ... you will still need to enable universe as i have said before
[20:23] <LordLandon> zvonkorp: sudo find / -name "FOLDERNAME"
[20:23] <mathix> fccf it is enabled right now.  What do i do now?
[20:23] <MTec007> nkp, you dont need to install an anti virus program, no but you can if you are running a server, where windows machines connect.
[20:24] <nkp> ty MTec007
[20:24] <MTec007> nkp, (for the sake of saving the windows machines, any way)
[20:24] <ManDay> I think I just found out about a ridiculous bug with gnome-panel: If you set it to "auto-hide" the "trigger-area" for it to reappear is not - like one would assume - the bar itsself or even just the area where it would normally go. INSTEAD the triggering area is the border of the bar - MEANING that if you move the mouse too quickly over the bar and "skip" over the border itsself, it will not appear unless you move back. awful. who volunteers t
[20:24] <ManDay> o fix this?
[20:24] <ManDay> linux is open source gentleman!
[20:24] <ManDay> please someone get at it - i ve no clue of gnome :P
[20:24] <zvonkorp> LordLandon: alright, i'm searching for it through the terminal - while it searches, for future reference, how do i properly delete a file in linux?
[20:24] <joeb3_> Sicilia, user "geek" can't run sudo.  That's the problem.
[20:24] <fccf> mathix: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[20:24] <fccf> zvonkorp: your trash is here /root/.local/share/trash/file
[20:25] <mathix> fccf that is the mutella CLI that's intalling?
[20:25] <Sicilia> yes
[20:25] <fccf> !gksudo | zvonkorp
[20:25] <joeb3_> Sicilia, did you change the root password?
[20:25] <fccf> mathix: no it is a GUI
[20:25] <Sicilia> no
[20:25] <Sicilia> i do this command sudo usermod -a -G fuse geek
[20:25] <LordLandon> zvonkorp: you can enable 'delete' in the natilus preferences.
[20:25] <Sicilia> to make my ipod-touch mount
[20:25] <mathix> fccf I wanted mutella because it had a CLI.  Is there any chance you can help me install mutella on my machine?
[20:25] <MTec007> Petengy, are you using a profile for 3.5, seperate from your other firefox profile, or are they one in the same?
[20:26] <Sicilia> because i install ipod-convenience
[20:27] <xmnt_> seems quiet today
[20:27] <Sicilia> and when i do >> ipod-touch-mount i got this error >> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. >> so i do this command >>  sudo usermod -a -G fuse geek
[20:27] <zvonkorp> found the trash files
[20:27] <zvonkorp> thank you ver much guys!!!
[20:27] <pitput> How do i find broken packages? I go to broken packages in synaptic package manager but nothings there.
[20:27] <fccf> mathix: what version of ubuntu?
[20:27] <MTec007> Petengy, i dont know if it makes a difference, but you might have to go into options and configure it, im not sure
[20:28] <mathix> fccf 9.04
[20:28] <G-man> guys i have 2gigs of ram, and i want vbox, solely to run an old 2d game i like to play, about how much ram should i dedicate to vbox?
[20:28] <MTec007> Petengy, i know that i have done the same thing, and it 'just worked' for me with no special efforts.
[20:29] <fccf> mathix: if you want mutella and you want it to work I'd reccommend installing Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 as the package maintainer is only packaging mutella for the LTS releases
[20:29] <mathix> fccf so if I install 8.04 and I go into the package manager it will be there?  Or i could just also type sudo get-apt install mutella in terminal?
[20:30] <G-man> guys i have 2gigs of ram, and i want vbox, solely to run an old 2d game i like to play, about how much ram should i dedicate to vbox?
[20:30] <fccf> mathix: assuming universe is enabled yes
[20:30] <mathix> fccf ok, downloading right now!
[20:30] <Gnea> G-man: the game doesn't work in wine?
[20:30] <joeb3_> Sicilia, yes
[20:30] <joeb3_> Not even off the menu?
[20:31] <cubix7_> how do you build a custom kernel - official ubunutu one.. docs page..
[20:31] <fccf> !kernel |cubix7_
[20:31] <mykol> Ok, I want to use Hibernate mode (I'm not having problems with that) but I don't like the apperance of the login screen. I want to change it to the Custom login screen that normally appears during a normal boot. Any ideas on how to change that?
[20:31] <mykol> Ok, I want to use Hibernate mode (I'm not having problems with that) but I don't like the apperance of the login screen. I want to change it to the Custom login screen that normally appears during a normal boot. Any ideas on how to change that?
[20:31] <mykol> Ok, I want to use Hibernate mode (I'm not having problems with that) but I don't like the apperance of the login screen. I want to change it to the Custom login screen that normally appears during a normal boot. Any ideas on how to change that?
[20:31] <FloodBot1> mykol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <Hypnoz> cubix that's probably a better question for google, that's probably pretty in depth
[20:32] <trism> G-man: I always do 512MB on my vms...no reason really but they all run fine
[20:32] <Gnea> mykol: yeah. first of all, never repeat your question more than once at a time like that, ever again.
[20:32] <ceil420> what's npviewer.bin? just noticed it sucking a large amount of cpu... `locate' tells me it's in /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/
[20:32] <ZykoticK9> ceil420, flash
[20:32] <mykol> Gnea: What's second?
[20:33] <Gnea> mykol: patience.
[20:33] <ceil420> ZykoticK9, flash is evul ;x html5 needs to come out, and google needs to press ogg/theora ;x thanks tho
[20:33] <mykol> Gnea: kudos
[20:33] <seidos> ceil420, have you searched the web for the bin file?
[20:34] <ceil420> seidos, negative.
[20:34] <JohnLocke> hello all. what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[20:34] <limefruit> Hi, I am to install Ubuntu on 27 PCs, they are old (but working), I need to use the minimal cd, how can I merge the minimal cd with the downloads that are downloaded during the minimal cd setup.
[20:34] <ww-joel-d> has anyone encountered problems with keyboard layouts on a fresh installÉ  I have tried to change the layout in the system menu but no dice
[20:34] <Gnea> JohnLocke: aptitude is newer, does more things, can be good things, can be things maybe you don't want it to do
[20:34] <trism> JohnLocke: aptitude it just a curses interface to apt
[20:34] <guntbert> G-man: why don't you just try it out?
[20:35] <ceil420> seidos, this'll sound rude as hell, but if someone here knows instantly and can answer with a quickness, i prefer that to browsing the web. i wouldn't've persisted with this question, though.
[20:35] <seidos> ceil420, you could try pkill -stop npviewer.bin to see what happens, it should pause the process.  might be necessary for your wireless if it's in ndiswrapper though
[20:35] <conex79> hi folks
[20:35] <dofoxma> hi
[20:35] <gOLDfeesh> !ipv6
[20:35] <dofoxma> what's CTCP?
[20:35] <trism> JohnLocke: I personally can't stand aptitude, the interface is awkward, it's either apt-get or synaptic for me
[20:35] <ceil420> seidos, dude above informed me it's flash (which would make sense; i'm watching youtube) :)
[20:35] <Dayofswords> finally when i get a internet connection, i dont have the laptop with ubuntu >.<
[20:36] <dofoxma> sicilia2 ciao
[20:36] <ceil420> dofoxma, Client To Client Protocol; two IRC clients communicating directly.
[20:36] <Branko> hello all
[20:36] <FuRom> I'm trying to figure out what I need to install to share directories, because I don't have the option to share a directory when I right click the folder icon.
[20:36] <JohnLocke> trism: so there's no any benefit from using aptitude over apt-get?
[20:36] <cubix7_> ko
[20:36] <GambiT> hi all
[20:36] <Gnea> ceil420: it's generally considered good manners, here, to browse the web first instead of wasting someone's time trying to reinvent the wheel.
[20:36] <sebsebseb> Dayofswords: What?
[20:36] <xteejx> Hi guys
[20:36] <dofoxma> ok,,,
[20:36] <ceil420> dofoxma, most commonly used on IRC to 'PING' someone (basically check to see if they're 'lagging')
[20:37] <joeb3_> FuRom, Samba
[20:37] <dofoxma> ah ok... and why?
[20:37] <ceil420> Gnea, i already acknowledged the rudeness of my actions. if someone here can answer in 5 seconds though (as was about the case), why should i spend 5 minutes googling
[20:37] <ceil420> ?
[20:37] <kudi> whats a optimal port to open for bittorent
[20:37] <xteejx> How can I install Ubuntu on an OLD PC which has no CD-ROM drive, no ethernet port, and cannot boot from USB? I'm trying to resurrect some life into something old and can;t think how to do it. Please help.
[20:38] <xteejx> kudi: 6881
[20:38] <trism> JohnLocke: I suppose that is subjective, gotta use what you're comfortable with
[20:38] <Gnea> ceil420: acknowlegement of self-rudeness doesn't necessarily justify it, but yes, if someone can, they will.
[20:38] <ww-joel-d> xteejx: put a human heart into it
[20:38] <FuRom> joeb3_ I already have samba installed, but nautilus seems to be missing something.
[20:38] <xteejx> lol
[20:38] <frostburn> xteejx, take out the hdd and install it using another computer
[20:38] <ceil420> Gnea, i'm not trying to justify it, i'm saying i don't care.
[20:38] <xteejx> frostburn, can't do that either :( only have a laptop
[20:38] <sebsebseb> xteejx: Does it have Windows on it?
[20:38] <Gnea> ceil420: then why should anyone else?
[20:38] <AmusingPet> guyz , had anyone istall touchscreen on hp tx1000 series ?
[20:39] <ceil420> Gnea, luckily, most people aren't as rude as me. if it makes you feel better, i answer quick/easy questions here and elsewhere often myself
[20:39] <subone> Is there any linux software to edit a video in 3gp format?
[20:39] <xteejx> sebsebseb: it does yeah, and i have a wifi stick but can't get drivers to it cuz the cd drive is broken lol
[20:39] <JohnLocke> trism: well, ru saying that aptitude is basically an alias of apt-get? :)
[20:39] <sebsebseb> xteejx: How much RAM, and which version of Windows?
[20:39] <Gnea> ceil420: fair enough.
[20:39] <ceil420> Gnea, if you choose not to help me in the future, that's your prerogative
[20:40] <seidos> Gnea, ceil420, whatever works
[20:40] <xteejx> sebsebseb: 128 and XP, it runs like cr@p :(
[20:40] <fccf> subone: avidemux will convert 3gp to mpeg so it can be edited
[20:40] <ceil420> i don't really see a need to carry on this conversation, though
[20:40] <trism> JohnLocke: it is just another interface for apt, yeah
[20:40] <ceil420> seidos, o/
[20:40] <fccf> ceil420: did you have a question?
[20:40] <Gnea> ceil420: I considered it finished at 'fair enough' :)
[20:40] <sebsebseb> xteejx: Take the hard disk out, and put in another computer,  I like  frostburn 's suggestion,  however you could also probably do Wubi,  thing is sometimes Wubi goes weird on people
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> JohnLocke, Ubuntu/Debian use DEB packages, what frontend you use really doesn't matter - it all comes down to DEB packages in the end.
[20:40] <subone> fccf: and what shall i use to edit it?
[20:40] <ceil420> fccf, about 5mins ago, yeah. already been answered, thanks
[20:40] <sebsebseb> !wubi >  xteejx
[20:40] <cubix7_> what is best tool to remaster karmic..?
[20:40] <G-man> which is better for virtual box, fixed - size , im assuming ?
[20:40] <seidos> ceil420, I just asked to see if you had.  Incidentally, I just looked it up myself.  interestingly, I can view flash content and I don't seem to have that file
[20:40] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  cubix7_
[20:40] <xteejx> can i install it from within windows using a usb pen drive?
[20:41] <Pici> JohnLocke: No. they both use apt and dpkg to install packages, but aptitude also tracks whether packages were manually installed or installed as a result of being dependencies of other packges.  Depending on what you want, this can be good or bad.
[20:41] <sebsebseb> xteejx: can you get on the net in Windows?
[20:41] <Gnea> G-man: Yes, it uses less resources at runtime that way
[20:41] <fccf> subone: perhaps kino
[20:41] <ceil420> JohnLocke, .deb packages, by the way, can be installed using the `dpkg -i yourpackage.deb'
[20:41] <sebsebseb> xteejx: also I thought you said USB didn't work?
[20:41] <subone> fccf: ok im already installing that ty
[20:41] <xteejx> sebsebseb, not on the pc no, but have my laptop, and the usb works, but cant boot from it (old bios i guess)
[20:41] <ceil420> seidos, maybe it has something to do with firefox 3.5? or the particular version of flash i have installed (no idea which)
[20:41] <wildc4rd_> evenin' all
[20:41] <seidos> ceil420, I'm not using 3.5
[20:42] <sebsebseb> xteejx: ok only do Wubi as a last resort
[20:42] <trism> Pici: apt-get does that too...if you uninstall a package, it will tell you you can remove the dependencies with apt-get autoremove...
[20:42] <sebsebseb> !usb |  xteejx
[20:42] <sebsebseb> !install |  xteejx
[20:42] <guntbert> JohnLocke: one difference is there - if you use aptitude it remembers "automatically" installed packages (from dependencies) and will remove them when you remove the dependant package
[20:42] <seidos> ceil420, learned the hard way not to upgrade unless necessary on my work laptop
[20:42] <ceil420> seidos, i do believe it used to tell me firefox itself was using all my CPU, actually. i just recently switched to 3.5
[20:42] <ceil420> heh
[20:42] <subone> fccf: why was  avidemux not listed under add/remove programs, but apt-get installing it worked?
[20:42] <ceil420> seidos, i do still have firefox 3.0 installed in case something goes wrong ;)
[20:43] <seidos> ceil420, have you tried chrome?  I installed it but didn't feel like setting up flash on it
[20:43] <fccf> subone: add/remove programs is a little limited ... you might want to check out Synaptic Package Manager .. Much more powerful
[20:43] <xteejx> sebsebseb, I'm a triager I know all that stuff lol is there a way to install that from within windows from usb as the cd? i mean can i just copy the cd to a pen drive and install that way?
[20:43] <ceil420> subone, add/remove isn't a 100% comprehensive list. i don't know what the protocols are for packages getting on that list. try Synaptic
[20:43] <Gnea> subone: add/remove only selects a certain set of packages at a time - synaptic/apt gives a wider breadth
[20:43] <Vanger_> Hi all!
[20:43] <ZykoticK9> subone, I'd recommend checking "synaptic" instead of "add/remove" it will have everything available instead of a small subset of packages
[20:43] <seidos> ceil420, I tried to install firefox 3.5 like several weeks ago
[20:43] <sebsebseb> xteejx: You can install from a USB stick yes
[20:43] <ceil420> seidos, i gave it a shot, but i didn't like the look'n'feel of it
[20:43] <JohnLocke> hmm... looks like aptitude is apt-get with an.. attitude! Lp
[20:43] <Gnea> lol
[20:43] <sebsebseb> JohnLocke: aptitude is also meant to be better
[20:44] <seidos> ceil420, I like the look and feel of lynx :)
[20:44] <ceil420> seidos, also, chrome doesn't have noscript or 4chan extensions to my knowledge :p
[20:44] <ceil420> lol
[20:44] <xteejx> sebsebseb, with wubi i assume? great i'll get onto it then, thanks for the help :) much appreciated
[20:44] <subone> ok ty
[20:44] <Vanger_> Guy, can any1 help me to find good mrim client on Ubuntu?
[20:44] <sebsebseb> xteejx: I said wubi as a last resort
[20:44] <sebsebseb> xteejx: since it can go weird on people
[20:44] <ceil420> seidos,  lynx has it's place... like testing accessibility on websites :p
[20:44] <clearscreen> ceil420: neither does it have flashblock, adblock, firebug, skipscreen, greasemonkey, historyblock, add&edit cookies, livehttpheaders
[20:44] <sebsebseb> xteejx: also since it runs from inside Windows
[20:44] <Gnea> ceil420: noscript rules - won't hear any complaints from me on the lack of 4chan, though ;)
[20:44] <sebsebseb> xteejx: ,but Windows won't be booted
[20:45] <ceil420> clearscreen, not to mention a cute little icon :)
[20:45] <xteejx> sebsebseb, sod windo$e ;)
[20:45] <seidos> ceil420, I like the black background by default.  I use a greasemonkey script to modify the way webpages load.  I don't like a white background.
[20:45] <subone> fccf: Avidemux says there is no audio decoder found for my 3gp file
[20:45] <ceil420> Gnea, yeah i know it's not a very popular site :p i generally hang out there to unwind (and answer the occasional question on the tech board)
[20:45] <clearscreen> seidos: white backgrounds hurt my eyes ;D
[20:45] <sebsebseb> xteejx: well then not Wubi
[20:45] <ceil420> seidos, i seem to go in six month cycles between black and white themes/backgrounds
[20:45] <wang_> help..
[20:46] <G-man> when i create virtual disk with vitrual box, will it make it pretty close to the center? im hoping it doesnt make it all the way on the outside
[20:46] <ceil420> dunno if it's subconsciously seasonal or what
[20:46] <wang_> when I run ps -ef | grep wang (to see what process I am running).. it hangs and the ps process uses 100% of my cpu
[20:46] <wang_> on 9.10
[20:46] <wang_> can anyone help[ me with that?
[20:46] <ceil420> G-man, ...the outside of your hdd platter?
[20:46] <sebsebseb> !9.10 | wang_
[20:46] <seidos> ceil420, I like black backgrounds.  I'm with clearscreen, white backgrounds hurt my eyes
[20:46] <G-man> aye
[20:46] <wang_> sorry, 9.04
[20:46] <G-man> that is what im asking
[20:46] <wang_> my bad, I mean 9.04
[20:46] <JohnLocke> okay folks.. i have another weird problem. when  i try to edit network connections i couldn't because no matter how edits i made the "Apply" button is kept inactive
[20:47] <azlon1> i have an issues with Apache. when i start i get this error: "Syntax error on line 10 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:". this is my line 10: "Options Indexes FowwlowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI"
[20:47] <ceil420> G-man, i'm not sure how finely you can control where things get written like that... put it on an early partition, i guess
[20:47] <wang_> when I run ps -ef | grep wang (to see what process I am running).. it hangs and the ps process uses 100% of my cpu --- this is on 9.04 (not 9.10 typo earlier)
[20:47] <G-man> thats just it, i installed xubuntu all in one
[20:47] <wang_> even running ps will cause the system to hang
[20:47] <trism> azlon1: if that is correct, FollowSymLinks is spelled wrong
[20:47] <trumpen> azlon1, Fowwlow?
[20:47] <azlon1> bah... im a moron
[20:47] <G-man> no other partitions, until i learn a little more,
[20:47] <azlon1> been awake too long
[20:47] <ceil420> seidos, only hurts mine when i first wake up, but i usually turn my lamp on first anyway :p
[20:47] <fccf> !medibuntu | subone
[20:47] <clearscreen> G-man: a virtual partition is in essence just a couple of files on your ext3 partition, virtualbox doesnt actually modify the partition table of your harddisk
[20:47] <G-man> then ill go back and set up partitions
[20:48] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/3exghs expands to http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
[20:48] <fccf> subone: you will need the amrwb package from medibuntu
[20:48] <G-man> oh okay, well it was a fresh install, so im assuming that it will all be good
[20:48] <azlon1> trism, trumpen: i was even staring at that specifically and i still overlooked it... thanks
[20:48] <G-man> i install big movies and whatnot to my external hardrive
[20:48] <trism> azlon1: happens to me all the time
[20:48] <seidos> ceil420, maybe my eyes are older
[20:48] <xmnt_> Options FollowSymLinks
[20:48] <G-man> i'm usually pretty good about keeping my hard disk clean
[20:48] <ceil420> clearscreen, he wants virtualbox to install close to the centre of his hdd platter (i'm guessing he's worried about that extra 1ns latency)
[20:48] <wang_> when I run' ps -ef | grep wang' or even ps (to see what process I am running).. it hangs and the ps process uses 100% of my cpu --- this is on 9.04 (not 9.10 typo earlier)
[20:48] <alessio> Hi, question. I have a desktop, and when I try to turn it on, the CD drive blinks and the fan spins a little bit, for like 1/2 a second, and then turns off. Is my power supply dead, or is it something else?
[20:48] <JohnLocke> i have a wireless connection that tries to automatically connects at startup.when i try cancel that by unchecking "Connect automatically" it doesn't work
[20:49] <subone> fccf: E: Couldn't find package amrwb
[20:49] <ceil420> alessio, did you build it yourself? is this the first time you've tried to turn it on?
[20:49] <fccf> alessio: sounds like hardware .. take it apart and check all connections
[20:49] <seidos> alessio, do you have another power supply you can test with your system?
[20:49] <clearscreen> G-man: and since you don't need defragmentation due to the way ext is developed, you dont even have to worry where it'll end up on your harddisk :P
[20:49] <fccf> subone: do you have the medibuntu repos in your sources.list
[20:50] <ceil420> could be PSU, could be mobo, could be CPU, could be RAM, could be aliens
[20:50] <ceil420> etc
[20:50] <subone> fccf: i guess not
[20:50] <alessio> im not sure how id switch the power supply, seidos, but yes i have a similar computer nearby. ceil420, it is a custom built computer but it was working fine until about a month ago. it doesnt even get to bios or start up a monitor connection
[20:50] <fccf> subone: the link to medibuntu is about 2 pages up
[20:50] <G-man> sweet... well only reason i ask to begin with, is because i heard, that the fastets, is in the middle, but it shouldnt  make that big of a difference really
[20:50] <subone> fccf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[20:50] <svkoskin> hello. I'd like to run a newer kernel or at least a more stable ath9k on jaunty. what would be a tried and true way, which does not ruin the package management or need constant administration?
[20:50] <fccf> subone: yes
[20:51] <G-man> i mean, when i was on XP, i had a 10 g partition for xp, bout 20-40 for programs, and the rest Downloads
[20:51] <ceil420> alessio, does the cpu fan come on, or just case/psu/gpu fans?
[20:51]  * JohnLocke is looking for a loophole in order to get attention in this room... :-!
[20:51] <ceil420> alessio, modern CPUs will shut down rather than overheat
[20:51] <wang_> anyoanyone?
[20:51] <G-man> but i wanted to learn more for linux before i start making partitions for it, if i ever even have to, really doesnt seem like i will need to
[20:51] <wang_> please help, its driving me crazy
[20:51] <subone> fccf: i did `sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/jaunty.list --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list` and then `sudo apt-get install amrwb` still couldnt find it
[20:51] <fccf> !details | JohnLocke
[20:51] <seidos> alessio, I've ran the power supply cord from one system (system A) to another system's (system B)'s motherboard without removing the system A's powersupply
[20:51] <seidos> alessio, should take like 5 minutes
[20:51] <fccf> subone: do sudo apt-get update first
[20:51] <ceil420> G-man, i do it because i change distros sometimes and i'd like to keep my ~ and dataz intact :p
[20:52] <G-man> ah
[20:52] <ceil420> seidos, in my case, though, that would destroy my immaculate wire management :(
[20:52] <G-man> but as far as fragmented files go... that doesnt happen with linux or what?
[20:52] <ceil420> (glad i'm not the one with the problem :p)
[20:52] <ceil420> G-man, most file systems linux uses are pretty good at keeping files together
[20:52] <subone> fccf: is this normal? "W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783"
[20:52] <seidos> ceil420, creative destruction
[20:53] <G-man> cool, cool thanks
[20:53] <subone> fccf: its installing now
[20:53] <ceil420> they don't just throw chunks around randomly like certain other FSs
[20:53] <ceil420> *cough*
[20:53] <alessio> seidos: as in just switch the power cable? i just tried that, nothing happened. i know the outlet is good cause the monitor runs off of the same power strip
[20:53] <fccf> subone: yes it is normal ... you just don't have the authentication keys for medibuntu, a little annoying but not critical
[20:54] <ceil420> alessio, i think he means plug the 20(+4) pin connector from a different PSU into the faulty computer
[20:54] <alessio> ahhh ceil420 ok i see. brb
[20:54] <subone> fccf: avidemux still returns same error about no sound
[20:54] <seidos> alessio, basically.  The power cable from power supply A (good power supply) to system B's motherboard
[20:54] <fccf> subone: have you restarted acidemux
[20:54] <G-man> dude virtual box is fucking awesome
[20:54] <G-man> lol
[20:54] <subone> fccf: yes
[20:54] <seidos> alessio, where system A is the one that boots, and system B is the one that has the problem booting
[20:54] <ceil420> G-man, family channel
[20:55] <ceil420> (i've been warned many times :x)
[20:55] <fccf> subone: lemme do a little more looking ... give me a sec
[20:55] <G-man> that shit is so cool... if i knew you could do this, i would have pulled the plug on windows years ago :)
[20:55] <G-man> sorry
[20:55] <G-man> for language
[20:55] <alessio> ok, ill check it out seidos, brb. thanks a lot man
[20:55] <LjL> G-man: not like VirtualBox can't run on Window, y'know.
[20:55] <seidos> awesome should be sufficient, but it's overused so the f word comes into play
[20:55] <seidos> alessio, good luck.
[20:55] <ceil420> lol seidos
[20:55] <Pici> alessio, seidos: This isn't really on-topic for this channel, ##hardware would be a better place to discuss it.
[20:55] <JohnLocke> ubottu: i'm using jaunty 9.04. there are several wireless connections that are automatically recognized. i tried to connect to one of them earlier but couldn't. now that connection is connects automatically everytime at startup. when i tried to edit the connection to disable automatic connection i couldn't because the "Apply" button is deactivated
[20:55] <ww-joel-d> anyone encountered keyboard problems with ubuntu installed via wubi?
[20:56] <subone> fccf: ty
[20:56] <alessio> ok sorry Pici
[20:56] <ceil420> Pici, seems he asked there, but they weren't fast enough
[20:56] <ceil420> (we're leeter)
[20:56] <seidos> Pici, didn't even know there was a hardware channel
[20:56] <G-man> kinda defeats the whole purpose
[20:56] <G-man> im not a fanboy of windows
[20:57] <Mhoram> disc errors reading/writing on my IDE DVD drive seem to cause the system to lose contact with it, and it no longer ejects or recognizes any disc I insert.  Any way to 'reset' the driver and get it to re-recognize the drive without rebooting?
[20:57] <G-man> although i live in texas, and windows is the norm here
[20:57] <G-man> oh well
[20:57] <ceil420> G-man, my friend would get off Windows if it wasn't for the games
[20:57] <ceil420> also, i live in Texas, and i've used Linux for a coupla years now :p
[20:57] <G-man> eventually.... im sure they will take care of the games part
[20:57] <ceil420> windows is "the norm" everywhere (on the desktop)
[20:57] <seidos> I have family in Texas
[20:57] <G-man> in due time
[20:57] <subone> fccf: looks like i properly installed tyhe GPG key now
[20:57] <JohnLocke> windows is "the worm" everywhere
[20:57] <G-man> they will figure out a way
[20:57] <ceil420> seidos, funny, so do i :p
[20:57] <G-man> people are alot more knowledgable  from a coding standpoint on linux anyway it seems
[20:57] <seidos> there are some good games on Linux, like Battle for Wesnoth :D
[20:57] <ceil420> lol JohnLocke
[20:58] <G-man> the average windows users, are not so bright
[20:58] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:58] <G-man> id say 3/4 of them don't even know how to use cmd.exe
[20:58] <ManDay> Has anyone replied to my Gnome-panel bug?
[20:58] <ceil420> G-man, i'm sure MS devs are as knowledgeable as many kernel hackers (though i firmly believe god-tier linux hackers rawk MS's best any day)
[20:58] <fccf> subone: use the ffmpeg that is in medibuntu ... you can do that from synaptic .. click on ffmpeg ... packagesmenu>Force Version
[20:58] <chrisubu> hello, everyone !
[20:58] <G-man> :)
[20:58] <seidos> !offtopic
[20:59] <rizzuh> Is it safe to install Ubuntu (either native or via Wubi) if I have BitLocker turned on for the Windows partition?
[20:59] <ceil420> you can find moron users from any OS tho
[20:59] <ceil420> (including ubuntu, to make it on topic)
[20:59] <ceil420> :x
[20:59] <G-man> windows is cool... if u like defragging and all that garbage all the time
[20:59] <chrisubu> how can i use the new win 7 feature: positionate a window with windows-key+left   on the half screen ?
[20:59] <ManDay> How can I get rid of the useless remants of configuration of programs I have removed long time ago in gconf-editor?
[20:59] <ceil420> chrisubu, try ##windows
[20:59] <ww-joel-d> Does anyone know of another ubuntu channel that isnt as full, I got some questions
[20:59] <chrisubu> iam sure there is a way in ubuntu
[21:00] <chrisubu> would be great for workflow
[21:00] <frostburn> G-man, ext3 needs defragging from time to time
[21:00] <ceil420> oh
[21:00] <G-man> ah
[21:00] <ceil420> chrisubu, misinterpreted your question, my bad
[21:00] <G-man> well about how often would u say?
[21:00] <subone> fccf: Force Version?
[21:00] <ceil420> chrisubu, you can use a tiling window manager, like awesome
[21:00] <ceil420> or dwm, i hear good things about that one
[21:00] <seidos> ww-joel-d, have you tried the forums?  there are other chatrooms, but not for support, specifically
[21:00] <frostburn> G-man, depends on how many read/write operations and size of the files being written.  if it's lots of large files, fairly often.  databases doubly so
[21:00] <matrix__> hey how can i split a file
[21:01] <subone> fccf: I don't have such a menu item
[21:01] <chrisubu> so why doesnt ubuntu support this ??
[21:01] <frostburn> matrix__, split
[21:01] <ww-joel-d> seidos: I will give it a shot, thanks
[21:01] <G-man> im not too partial to large files
[21:01] <seidos> ww-joel-d, good luck
[21:01] <G-man> i keep it basic
[21:01] <andres_> chrisubu, what functionality?
[21:01] <G-man> for the mostpart
[21:01] <ceil420> chrisubu, because Ubuntu is not a Windows clone
[21:01] <matrix__> frostburn: yes its a movie file i want to split it in 2 pieces
[21:01] <frostburn> matrix__, no, the command is split
[21:01] <seidos> ww-joel-d, or just ask your question, I'm listening
[21:01] <frostburn> man split
[21:01] <chrisubu> but it want replace windows
[21:01] <fccf> subone: open synaptic package manager ... in the packages menu you will see force version .. it is probably greyed out .. until you select ffmpeg
[21:01] <ceil420> andres_, win7's new "snap window to half-fill a side of the screen" thing
[21:01] <andres_> emmm... ratpoison has it
[21:02] <andres_> since the 90s
[21:02] <ceil420> chrisubu, if you think that's what linux (or ubuntu) is about, you're sorely mistaken
[21:02] <ceil420> andres_, somehow i doubt this guy'd be a big fan of ratpoison :p
[21:02] <chrisubu> i know what linux is, but ubuntu is going the way they want replace windows
[21:02] <subone> fccf: its greyed out even when its selected
[21:02] <andres_> ceil420, agreed
[21:02] <matrix__> frostburn: there is no example on man split howto do it
[21:02] <andres_> chrisubu, try ratpoison
[21:02] <G-man> anybody got working windows 7 with key? lol
[21:03] <fccf> subone: is it upgradeable?
[21:03] <G-man> without the genuine advantage B/S
[21:03] <ceil420> chrisubu, nothing of the sort. Ubuntu wants to be a viable, accessible, simply desktop operating system. they don't want to 'replace' anyone. they're just making themselves available
[21:03] <chrisubu> anres, just watching ubuntu marketing
[21:03] <andres_> Anyway, I think you just didn't find the windows manager that does that, chrisubu
[21:03] <ManDay> How can I get rid of the useless remants of configuration of programs I have removed long time ago in gconf-editor?
[21:03] <hermitcrabred> ...when seeing videos on YouTube I get a very fast message about Flashplayer...I already installed, videos are quirky, don`t know what to do...any tips???
[21:03] <IdleOne> G-man: this is not a warez channel
[21:04] <JohnLocke> no one is able to reproduce my problem? i'm feeling it's a bug in 9.04
[21:04] <ww-joel-d> seidos: so I try to register to the forums, but cant because of my keyboard problem
[21:05] <G-man> hehe
[21:05] <G-man> sorry
[21:05] <Pici> !piracy | G-man
[21:05] <frostburn> matrix__, http://www.computerhope.com/unix/usplit.htm
[21:05] <seidos> chrisubu, what about Microsoft marketing?
[21:05] <rizzuh> Is it safe to install Ubuntu (either native or via Wubi) if I have BitLocker turned on for the Windows partition?
[21:05] <subone> fccf: it just says mark for reinstallation, i did and installed, but it still says mark for reinstallation
[21:05]  * G-man sorry
[21:05] <ceil420> !o4o
[21:05] <chrisubu> seidos that wasnt my point
[21:05] <ceil420> what's o4o stand for? :o
[21:05] <Pici> Guys, this is a support channel, please keep use #ubuntu-offtopic for other chit-chat or ##windows for discussing windows.
[21:05] <fccf> subone: you may also need the debian-multimedia repository
[21:05] <IdleOne> offtopic for offtopic
[21:05] <Pici> ceil420: offtopic for offtopic
[21:05] <ceil420> oh
[21:05] <_CommandeR_> anyone using Vistar7 transformation pack ;P ?
[21:05] <andres_> please use #doors to discuse doors. Sorry, that was for #offtopic :P
[21:05] <nanotube> ceil420: heh i had the same question
[21:05] <seidos> !offtopic | seidos
[21:05] <ceil420> nanotube, darn linux community and their incomprehensible acronyms :p
[21:05] <dooglus> ceil420: our IAs?
[21:05] <subone> fccf: ok one sec
[21:05] <frostburn> ceil420, tlas
[21:05] <ceil420> ><
[21:05] <nanotube> ceil420: you mean, DLCATIA :)
[21:05] <ceil420> lol
[21:05] <Adys_> Is there a way to redirect all sound output from one specific device to one specific other device? eg. redirecting to an usb headset. I DONT have pulseaudio
[21:05] <_CommandeR_> anyone using Vistar7 transformation pack ;P ? Know how to merge the account to sudo ?
[21:05] <ww-joel-d> so, I cant seem to make symbols at all and the ones that work are like umlauts and random german characters
[21:05] <andres_> I have a problem with system-config-printer
[21:05] <andres_> It opens and it crashes
[21:06] <ceil420> Adys_, i use JACK to redirect sound amongst programs. it may work
[21:06] <seidos> ww-joel-d, a keyboard problem...hmmm
[21:06] <andres_> Adys_, agreed with ceil420 : qjackctl
[21:06] <ceil420> Adys_, i'm sure JACK can work with hardware, i just have no use to do so
[21:06] <Adys_> Thanks, gonna try that
[21:06] <break_> hey, everyone. i'm trying to set up wireless on my laptop. i've got a broadcom bcm4311 apparently. i installed Broadcom's proprietary STA driver through jockey, and although the wl module loads, the device doesn't show up in NetworkManager. Furthermore, I can seem to turn the card on (the LED is off and the wireless button doesn't seem to do anything). I also get the following message in my syslog: "eth%d: 5.10.91.9 driver failed with cod
[21:07] <seidos> ww-joel-d...thinking
[21:07] <andres_> how do I install a new network printer from the command line?
[21:07] <subone> fccf: ok then what?
[21:07] <ww-joel-d> yeah, Ive just installed it and the layout seems to be a bit off...  I have tried changing layout to Usa, canadian canadian french, etc...
[21:07] <sebsebseb> !printer | andres_
[21:07] <moonshine> break
[21:07] <seidos> ww-joel-d, do you have a live cd?
[21:07] <moonshine> i can help ya ::D
[21:07] <rizzuh> Is it safe to install Ubuntu (either native or via Wubi) if I have BitLocker turned on for the Windows partition?
[21:07] <subone> fccf: damn sec that didnt work
[21:07] <seidos> ww-joel-d, does your keyboard work in a terminal only?
[21:07] <break_> moonshine: i'm listening...
[21:07] <sebsebseb> rizzuh:  should be fine
[21:07] <matrix__> anyone who knows how split works i have a file i want to split it in 2 pieces
[21:07] <rizzuh> ok, thanks
[21:07] <sebsebseb> rizzuh:   well I woudn't do Wubi
[21:08] <fccf> subone: reload apt from repository ... you will have more than one ffmpeg available
[21:08] <ww-joel-d> seidos: it seems to work there
[21:08] <sebsebseb> hmm people leaving before I have finnished properly, oh well
[21:08] <seidos> matrix__, never used split
[21:08] <subone> fccf: which one of these do i want? http://debian-multimedia.org/
[21:08] <seidos> ww-joel-d, in a terminal and in the live cd?
[21:08] <matrix__> seidos what do you use
[21:08] <seidos> matrix__, I've never needed to split a file
[21:08] <shane2peru> matrix__: what file are you trying to split?
[21:08] <subone> fccf: Lenny?
[21:09] <matrix__> its an .avi file
[21:09] <ww-joel-d> well, I have installed ubuntu via wubi just for the lack of commitment needed
[21:09] <seidos> !wubi
[21:09] <matrix__> its an .avi file  i want to make it shorter so i can upload it on youtube
[21:09] <fccf> subone: lenny is behind ubuntu ... you will want sid
[21:09] <matrix__> so iwant to split the file in 2pieces
[21:09] <guntbert> sebsebseb: so he didn't hear my cautioning about creating a partition which is not recognized by bitlock :-)
[21:09] <shane2peru> matrix__: hmm, you can set time limits with mencoder, probably with ffmpeg too, the later is a bit easier.
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> matrix__, checkout avidemux
[21:10] <ww-joel-d> Ahhh of course -smiley emoticon-
[21:10] <fccf> !info gopchop | matrix__
[21:10] <seidos> ww-joel-d, does the keyboard ever work?
[21:10] <fccf> matrix__: I use gopchop
[21:10] <shane2peru> matrix__: if you want graphical, I recommend, kdenlive, it is simple and seems to work well, or as stated by others, Avidemux or PiTiVi
[21:10] <ww-joel-d> no forward slash and question marks etc, just commas and periods the rest come up as foreign symbols
[21:11] <subone> fccf: what do you mean by "behind ubuntu", you mean chronologically it is out of date?
[21:11] <shane2peru> fccf: gopchop only supports mpeg doesn't it?
[21:11] <fccf> shane2peru: you're right
[21:11] <fccf> subone: exactly
[21:11] <subone> fccf: ok so choose the unstabble version?
[21:11] <subone> fccf: in synaptic i mean
[21:11] <johnsmith> hey room
[21:11] <seidos> ww-joel-d, keyboard works in windows?
[21:11] <johnsmith> does ubuntu support reiser4
[21:11] <ww-joel-d> of course, its a laptop
[21:11] <fccf> subone: they have been calling sid unstable for 3 years... I call it usable
[21:11] <shane2peru> !hi | johnsmith
[21:12] <nycrbot> goodafternoon shane2peru
[21:12] <seidos> ww-joel-d, what kind of keyboard is it?  what model laptop is it?
[21:12] <Andy80> is it possible to enable/disable compiz effects on ubuntu from command line? I'd like to create a script that disable them, launch a game, then when I exit game it enables them again... is it possible?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> guntbert: no I guess not,  and some people should stick around  a bit longer, instead of asking a question, getting a reply, and leaving so quickly
[21:12] <shane2peru> nycrbot: good afternoon
[21:12] <nycrbot> hi, shane2peru!
[21:12] <sebsebseb> guntbert: plus people aren't always right in here
[21:12] <m1dlg> stupid question guys - how do I move my panel from one screen to another - after running frets on fire and crashing my video it's on the wrong screen.
[21:12] <unop> fccf, sid never becomes stables - it is always unstable, always has been, and always will be
[21:12] <johnsmith> what do you want to talk about sebsebseb
[21:12] <problemato> hi, i want to know if ubuntu 9.04 finally supports ati 3d opengl?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> johnsmith: what?
[21:12] <subone> fccf: E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:12] <subone> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[21:13] <ww-joel-d> seidos: hp g60, Im currently trying to find if I can find a similar keyboard layout posted in the keyboard list here
[21:13] <johnsmith> you said people just ask a question get an answer and then leave
[21:13] <fccf> subone: check broken packages ... in status
[21:13] <johnsmith> sounded like you want a conversation topic
[21:13] <shane2peru> m1dlg: are you using gnome-panel?  or something modified?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> johnsmith: well  I don't tend to  say everything in one reply
[21:13] <m1dlg> I think it's gnome
[21:13] <sebsebseb> johnsmith: in one line whatever you want to say
[21:13] <subone> fccf second time worked, one sec
[21:13] <seidos> ww-joel-d, you could register on the forums in windows, do a search for hp g60 keyboard
[21:14] <seidos> ww-joel-d, I'm going to check the forums now
[21:14] <shane2peru> m1dlg: you can press alt-f2 and type: killall gnome-panel    that will reload the panel
[21:14] <johnsmith> does morrowind work in ubuntu
[21:14] <sebsebseb> guntbert: Wubi is bad really,  however it's done :D
[21:14] <shane2peru> m1dlg: it should fix your issue.
[21:14] <ww-joel-d> but I cant haha, no at symbol or anything
[21:14] <m1dlg> shane2peru, I wont loose all my shortcuts etc if I do that?
[21:14] <subone> Depends: libavcodec52 (>=5:0.5+svn20090906) but 3:0.svn20090303-1ubuntu6 is to be installed
[21:14] <sebsebseb> guntbert: maybe the Wubi installer should warn about bitlocker
[21:14] <problemato> johnsmith, Oblivion does via wine
[21:14] <bobbob1016> I am currently copying files across my network, 1.2 terabytes over 100mbps, and it's taking a long time.  How can I verify the files/folders copied against their originals?
[21:14] <subone> fccf: i have to manually find each of these in the list and lock the versions?
[21:14] <johnsmith> but not elder scrolls III
[21:15] <shane2peru> m1dlg: no, that only resets the panel
[21:15] <problemato> johnsmith, i dont know
[21:15] <guntbert> sebsebseb: I don't know about that - never tried - I even don't know what it really accomplishes
[21:15] <johnsmith> md5sum
[21:15] <m1dlg> cool ta, I cant do it from a consol window?
[21:15] <fccf> subone: yep .. force version ... not lock version ... cause they will still get updates that way
[21:15] <shane2peru> m1dlg: terminal, console, whatever you would like. :)
[21:16] <shane2peru> m1dlg: we are flexible.
[21:16] <fccf> subone: but you should now be able to read audio from 3gp files
[21:16] <m1dlg> shane2peru, Thanks, I'd never remember that with out it in front of me -- I've had a stressful day :) Many thanks
[21:16] <seidos> ww-joel-d, I will see what I can find
[21:16] <problemato> does ubuntu jounty support ati opengl by default? i have intrepid and i wnat to know if its save to upgrade to jaunty
[21:16] <fccf> subone: force libavcodec52 to 5
[21:16] <shane2peru> m1dlg: no prob
[21:16] <sebsebseb> problemato: does it work in 8.10?
[21:16] <ubuntuissues> hey all How to get the nvidia MCP73 soundcard working?
[21:16] <unop> bobbob1016, you could use rsync to do that
[21:17] <problemato> sebsebseb: yes
[21:17] <sebsebseb> problemato: I have  heard about people having problems with ATI cards in 9.04
[21:17] <m1dlg> shane2peru, done it, there still on the wrong monitor screen
[21:17] <sebsebseb> problemato: I mean read stuff in here
[21:17] <problemato> sebsebseb: yes i had on another machine
[21:18] <shane2peru> m1dlg: hmm, in that case, it is probably not the gnome-panel issue, it is probably your monitor setup.  Do you have 2 monitors?
[21:18] <johnsmith> how stable is ubuntu on 64bit?
[21:18] <shane2peru> johnsmith: it is stable
[21:18] <shane2peru> johnsmith: I'm running 64bit
[21:18] <johnsmith> cool
[21:18] <johnsmith> amd or intel
[21:18] <sebsebseb> problemato: also with  9.10 being released on  the  29th of October,  and  what is in 9.04,  it is hardly worth upgrading really.   I suggest clean installing when 9.10 comes out,  for full support for the rather fast booting and disk checking Ext4 file system, without having to do some Ext3 to Ext4 conversion thing,
[21:18] <shane2peru> johnsmith: stability isn't the issue, sometimes you run into minor issues with flash and java, but over all everything is fine
[21:18] <frostburn> johnsmith, stable is dependent on video card
[21:19] <shane2peru> johnsmith: I have run it on both
[21:19] <frostburn> if it's a desktop
[21:19] <subone> fccf: this is going to take a while
[21:19] <Defcon> hi is there anyone out there running backtrack ?????
[21:19] <fccf> subone: always does
[21:19] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Defcon
[21:19] <bobbob1016> unop: I knew there was a program, wasn't sure the name of it.  Thanks.
[21:19] <unop> bobbob1016,  rsync -acv /path/to/src/ /path/to/dest/
[21:19] <warriorforgod> Defcon, Join #remote-exploit
[21:19] <sebsebseb> problemato: in certain ways 8.10 is  better than 9.04
[21:19] <MTec007> is there any way i can make my volume buttons on my laptop control headphones and master, instead of just master?
[21:19] <Guest10064> thanks
[21:20] <bobbob1016> unop: So "rsync -acv /original /copy" right?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:21] <bobbob1016> unop: Ah, ok, beat me to it.
[21:21] <BaGy> yo yo nigga :)
[21:21] <sebsebseb> !ops |  BaGy
[21:21] <unop> bobbob1016, almost correct, you're missing the trailing backslashes
[21:21] <m1dlg> shane2peru, yes 2 monitors, The left is meant to be the primary (and larger) monitor, the panels shifted when FOF crashed and the video was reset to 800x600, the video drivers are a real pain
[21:21] <unop> bobbob1016,  rsync -acv /original/ /copy/
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> m1dlg: FoF is da bom!!!!!
[21:21] <shane2peru> m1dlg: sounds like you are going to have to trouble shoot the monitor setup, perhaps a reboot?  I'm not really sure about that.
[21:21] <thiebaude> !language | BaGy
[21:22] <BaGy> okeee
[21:22] <thiebaude> BaGy, thank you
[21:22] <MTec007> BaGy, we all appreciate it:)
[21:22] <subone> fccf: libavcodec52:
[21:22] <subone>  Depends: libdirac-encoder0  but it is not installable
[21:22] <subone>   Depends: libgsm1 (>=1.0.13) but 1.0.12-1 is to be installed.... but its not forcable
[21:23] <m1dlg> shane2peru, I'll reboot, but I see the killall command as doing the same thing. I have had nothing but trouble with this set up and want to perform a reinstal, but dont have the HDD space
[21:23] <jems> Hi all, how do I configure screen brightness in my dv3 2102Tu, nothing seems to work
[21:23] <shane2peru> m1dlg: well, it will probably reset your monitor setup and hopefully correct the monitor problem.
[21:24] <m1dlg> shane2peru, In other distro's I've been able to lock and unlock the panels and therefore move them much like I can in windows
[21:24] <fccf> subone: it will take me a little while, but I am going to install jaunty into a Virtual Machine to get a package list that will work for you ...
[21:24] <MTec007> is there any way i can make my volume buttons on my laptop control headphones and master, instead of just master? or how do i switch the control from master to headphone?
[21:24] <m1dlg> shane2peru, I'll try a reboot as it does seem sencible
[21:24] <Flare183> shane2peru: You can move the panels around, all you have to do is drag them from one side of the screen to another.
[21:24] <subone> fccf: omg ur da best
[21:24] <MTec007> can ubuntu detect headphones plugging in?
[21:24] <jems> Hi all, how do I configure screen brightness in my dv3 2102Tu, nothing seems to work
[21:24] <shane2peru> m1dlg: I've never run two monitors, so, I'm not sure about that stuff, I can move my panels, but only on one screen. :)
[21:24] <gravaera> oh lord god...when will Google chrome finally finish up for Ubuntu...
[21:24] <gravaera> firefox is so slow...
[21:24] <thiebaude> MTec007, it detects mine
[21:25] <m1dlg> I cant move them at all
[21:25] <frostburn> gravaera, use ff 3.5
[21:25] <shane2peru> Flare183: no, he is having problems with multiple monitor setup
[21:25] <shane2peru> m1dlg: you can't move them at all?
[21:25] <Flare183> shane2peru: Ahh ok.
[21:25] <andres_> lol@slow-firefox, gravaera
[21:25] <RabidWeezle> has anyone got a virgin mobile aircard usb dongle to work in ubuntu?
[21:25] <m1dlg> shane2peru, no
[21:25] <shane2peru> Flare183: well, perhaps not.
[21:25] <thiebaude> gravaera, it wont be long
[21:25] <MTec007> thiebaude, out of the box?
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> gravaera: firefox is so slow. I use opera. much faster
[21:26] <thiebaude> MTec007, it sure does
[21:26] <RabidWeezle> opera turbo ftw
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> turbo?
[21:26] <shane2peru> m1dlg: ohh, right click, select properties, and play around with it
[21:26] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, i use opera 10
[21:26] <MTec007> thiebaude, does it switch the control from master to head phones?
[21:26] <Flare183> !ot | RabidWeezle
[21:26] <shane2peru> m1dlg: mine didn't move either.
[21:26] <RabidWeezle> Flare183|that wasn't off topic
[21:26] <RabidWeezle> but thanks
[21:26] <thiebaude> MTec007, sometimes when i log-in it will mute it and then i have to un--mute
[21:26] <m1dlg> shane2peru, I had it expanded, when I shrunk it it worked
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> RabidWeezle: is there a repo for turbo, or is it a case of extract archive?
[21:27] <MTec007> thiebaude, i dont know why mine wont do it then
[21:27] <m1dlg> shane2peru, many thanks, I was being a bit stupid :)
[21:27] <fccf> subone: can we move this to a PM
[21:27] <RabidWeezle> ActionParsnip, Turbo is built into opera 10
[21:27] <shane2peru> m1dlg: that is odd, I can't move mine either, that must be a Jaunty thing, I usually don't move them
[21:27] <Flare183> RabidWeezle: Actually its unrelated to ubuntu support, so yes it is.
[21:27] <thiebaude> MTec007, im not sure why
[21:27] <RabidWeezle> Flare183, o rly?
[21:27] <MTec007> like now my headphones are in, and un muted, but the control is still on master, and master is muted.
[21:27] <subone> fccf: please
[21:27] <shane2peru> m1dlg: no prob, so that worked?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> RabidWeezle: i see
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> opera ftw either way
[21:28] <MTec007> and i dont know how to give the control to headphones
[21:28] <thiebaude> MTec007, can you un-mute master?
[21:28] <RabidWeezle> ActionParsnip
[21:28] <shane2peru> Flare183: hmm, that is odd, my panels don't move, is that new in Jaunty, I'm just finding this out?
[21:28] <MTec007> yeah. i muted it
[21:28] <thiebaude> ok
[21:28] <m1dlg> shane2peru, after I untoggled expand, it shrunk and I could move it from the left most end, not from the middle though. It did work. a minor bug perhaps?
[21:28] <meplz> When I rename .desktop to .idesktop it says "Key file contains line 'table Config' which is not a key-value pair, group, or comment.". What does this mean ?
[21:29] <Flare183> shane2peru: Well, I made a slight mistake. You can move then via the panel's properties window.
[21:29] <shane2peru> m1dlg: I'm not sure, they used to move rather freely, and I'm boggled, because mine don't move either.
[21:29] <shane2peru> Flare183: I think you used to be able to grab them and drag them in the past
[21:29] <Flare183> shane2peru: I agree
[21:30] <RabidWeezle> ActionParsnip, (tab issue), in opera 10, it's a setting in there to enable turbo mode, if you are running on a system that counts your bandwidth, it helps alot
[21:30] <shane2peru> Flare183: I don't usually move mine, so I hadn't noticed, but I'm about 90% sure in hardy you can drag and drop them, my kids move theirs all the time.
[21:30] <m1dlg> shane2peru, Flare183, perhaps it's a minor bug or a deliberate decision to make it that way?
[21:30] <thiebaude> RabidWeezle, yep and it works great
[21:30] <shane2peru> m1dlg: Flare183 could be something to do with the new gnome stuff.
[21:30] <Adys_> ceil420: I can't get jack to start here =/ I'm on kubuntu though
[21:31] <ww-joel-d> seidos: interesting, kinda goofy actually...  I think its just my irc client
[21:31] <ascott>  /part #ubuntu
[21:31] <ww-joel-d> gnome xchat
[21:31] <meanburrito920_> my wireless usb mouse is no longer recognizing even though it was recognizing earlier today. it still appears under lsusb, so I'm not sure what the issue is. suggestions?
[21:31] <thiebaude> !xchat
[21:31] <ww-joel-d> ill give irssi a try
[21:31] <RabidWeezle> thiebaude, I use it on my virgin mobile card since it restricts me to 1gb a month :/
[21:31] <shane2peru> meanburrito920_: check battery, if not try unplugging it and re-plugging it in
[21:32] <shane2peru> meanburrito920_: I have this problem sometimes too.
[21:32] <m1dlg> shane2peru, Flare183, I only discovered the alt+ctrl+arrow in windows to change the way round the screen is displayed - I have a old buggy GFX card and the screen is often reverted and this saves the time it takes to return it to normal!
[21:32] <meanburrito920_> shane2peru: i tried unplugging and replugging it in. no change. I don't think it is a battery issue as the indicator light works fine and the mouse is only a few days old.
[21:32] <jano_> tud itt valaki magyarul?
[21:32] <shane2peru> meanburrito920_: hmm, that doesn't sound good.
[21:32] <ww-joel-d> what is your guys take on wubiÉ should I just repartition and get over with itÉ
[21:32] <erUSUL> jano_: language ?
[21:33] <judgen> Is there a way to preview usplash themes before compiling them?
[21:33] <TheLinuxMoron> Does anyone know where the bass/treble tabs are in ubuntu I cant find them in the sound device at all
[21:33] <judgen> Or an usplash editor
[21:33] <RabidWeezle> judgen, there used to be, but it was taken out of the repo
[21:33] <judgen> RabidNelson, what was its name?
[21:33] <vallesmarineris> Hi guys. I'm running ubuntu netbook remix (9.04) and ever since I installed, I seem to be missing many of the normal options in Administration. For example, I cannot see Login Window Preferences. I have tried googling this problem, but most results just say to launch Login Window Preferences, which I cannot see. I can see Hardware Drivers, Add/Remove, and a few other things. Can anyone help me figure out where these missing options are?
[21:33]  * RabidWeezle tries to remember
[21:33] <sega_dude> I can't get ubuntu installed on my ps3. It cant find the cdrom modules. Any help?
[21:34] <RabidWeezle> !usplash
[21:34] <guntbert> !hu | jano_
[21:34] <RabidWeezle> that link has the usplash app on there somewhere, that's where I found it
[21:34] <TheLinuxMoron> Can't anyone answer my question?
[21:34] <TheLinuxMoron> Ive asked this stupid question all day
[21:34] <seidos> ww-joel-d, hope it works out for you.  I checked for a listing of a bug related to the hp g60 and didn't find anything about a keyboard problem.  don't give up on Ubuntu though, open source is the way to go
[21:34] <yokobr> plz, someone help me to do dist-upgrades from feisty to gutsy
[21:34] <m1dlg> Thanks gents :) have a good night all.
[21:34] <ZykoticK9> sega_dude, is this a PS3slim?  I read they are no longer supporting linux on it...  I got no help for you though.
[21:35] <scott_ino2> Any powertop users in here? I was wondering if i someone could answer a question about changes in powertop
[21:35] <TheLinuxMoron> Does anyone know where the bass/treble tabs are in ubuntu I cant find them in the sound device at all
[21:35] <sega_dude> no its not
[21:35] <ww-joel-d> seidos: yeah, I used to run slackware back when I was 14, just kinda got out of it being a mid-20s workaholic
[21:35] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, i believe that's application independent, so check the equilizer in the app you're using
[21:36] <cylux> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu (tried with 2 diff cd's) and the live-cd just hangs at the boot screen. No matter what I select at the boot man, to install, to go to the desktop environment or anything- it just hangs.
[21:36] <cylux> Any ideas?
[21:36] <ww-joel-d> seidos: always preferred linux over windies, but never had the time to commit
[21:36] <RabidWeezle> cylux, have you tried an alternative installer?
[21:36] <cylux> RabidWeezle: Like?
[21:36] <RabidWeezle> there's alt cd isos cylux with non-gui installers
[21:36] <maco> cylux: the alternate cd instead of the live cd
[21:36] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino: Ive seen pics online of tabs in sound devices, but mine just show which ones I want to check to use, ect. mic, master volume, camera, pc speakers ect.
[21:36] <cylux> Hmm
[21:36] <seidos> ww-joel-d, I tried install BSD when I was a teenager.  Couldn't get X-windows to work the first time and gave up.
[21:36] <cylux> I'll try it
[21:36] <RabidWeezle> good luck cylux
[21:37] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, give me a sec and let me try it myself, always thought this was application specific
[21:37] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: I'm using totem also I didn't c a tab
[21:37] <meplz> I tried everything but the "idesk" report error saying cant file background and create .idesktop dir in home, plz help :(
[21:37] <seidos> ww-joel-d, well, shouldn't say the first time, I did try some troubleshooting.  I think I had a cirus video card on my 486 dx :)
[21:37] <meplz> I tried everything but the "idesk" report error saying cant file background and create .idesktop dir in home, plz help :(
[21:37] <seidos> wow, 33 mhz
[21:37] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, yeah totem certainly wont have it. I personally don't like totem but you might be stuck without the option if that's what you wanna use
[21:37] <Wildbat> my laptop can't wake from sleep sucessfully ~ anyone know how to fix it ?
[21:37] <iceroot> cylux: press ctrl + alt +f1 to see any errors while booting. often its a broken sata-driver
[21:37] <iceroot> Wildbat: no
[21:38] <iceroot> Wildbat: noone here knows your notebook
[21:38] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, can you also send me where you saw those screenshots, ive never seen native ALSA bass/trebble control
[21:38] <seidos> Wildbat, what kind of notebook is it?
[21:38] <RabidWeezle> Wildbat, if you have your laptop's model number, head over to the ubuntu wiki pages, there are people that give tips and tricks for things like that there on their notebook pages
[21:39] <azlon1> i have a scanner but one of my user accounts cant access it. how can i change this?
[21:39] <RabidWeezle> Wildbat, also check out the notebook forums
[21:39] <Taulus> Wacom Intuos tablet help plz!
[21:39] <Dantonic> I lose Network/Internet capability after suspending Ubuntu 9.04.  The only way to get it back is to Reboot the system.  Has anyone experienced or heard of this?  Do you know of a Fix? Thanks
[21:39] <meplz> Wildbat, press the power buttom for over 5 seconds , maybe
[21:39] <RabidWeezle> Dantonic, wired or wireless?
[21:39] <moonshine> i am feeling nice :D
[21:39] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: ill try to google it again
[21:40] <moonshine> but troubled...:D
[21:40] <Dantonic> RabidNelson,  WIRED
[21:40] <mrbook> I am a newbie and would like to try linux on my dell Vostro 2510 laptop. Is it doable?
[21:40] <Wildbat> it is hp nc 6320
[21:40] <RabidWeezle> Dantonic, no way o_O, what nic card you using?
[21:40] <veilig> if I have a package installed (php) and I want to change the configuration to enable debugging how do I reinstall that package to read the newly changed config file?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> mrbook: boot to livecd to test
[21:40] <moonshine> mrbook, yes it is :)
[21:40] <seidos> Dantonic, have you tried disabling networking in the gnome panel and reenabling it?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> mrbook: you can run lspci too, to see the hardware and you can websearch the hardware too
[21:41] <Dantonic> RabidNelson, it's an onboard card from by Abit uh... AX8 mobo Ibelieve
[21:41] <moonshine> hey
[21:41] <Dantonic> seidos, what's the command for that? I've tried some commands I've found in the forums... but to no avail
[21:41] <RabidWeezle> seidos, sometimes a simple "sudo ifconfig eth0 down" then "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" can fix that sort of thing
[21:41] <n8tuser> Dantonic -> no need to reboot, you can try restarting networking via   /etc/init.d/network restart
[21:41] <moonshine> anyone familiar with the driver for VIA S3 Unichrome integrated graphics?
[21:41] <seidos> Dantonic, just right click the networking icon.
[21:41] <Taulus> Anyone using graphics tablets?
[21:41] <n8tuser> Dantonic -> with root priviledges off course
[21:41] <seidos> Dantonic, then click disable.
[21:41] <polk330> n8tuser, ive always found the /etc/init.d/network restart better
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> moonshine: try Drivr "s3"   in xorg.conf
[21:42] <RabidWeezle> Dantonic, listen to n8tuser on that one too
[21:42] <moonshine> anyone familiar with the driver for VIA S3 Unichrome integrated graphics?
[21:42] <seidos> RabidWeezle, you are right, that is faster
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Driver "s3"
[21:42] <moonshine> not working
[21:42] <Dantonic> n8tuser, I believe I've done that because I've seen that on the forums somewhere
[21:42] <Dantonic> but It didnt work...
[21:42] <DasEi> Dantonic: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:42] <Dantonic> I can give it another shot right now...
[21:42] <n8tuser> Dantonic -> try it again
[21:42] <moonshine> tried with: s3, via, openchrome...
[21:42] <Dantonic> n8tuser, ok I'll be right back
[21:42] <RabidWeezle> try the ifconfig down and up thing Dantonic
[21:42] <moonshine> nothing works
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> moonshine: tried with s3virge
[21:42] <Dantonic> ok guys brb wait for me! :P
[21:42] <moonshine> its the same driver?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> moonshine: http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/  may help
[21:43]  * RabidWeezle notes that irc runs at about 55 bytes a second of bandwidth...
[21:44] <vock> Just wondering if anyone knew any other alternatives to MS Office under wine or OpenOffice? They're both too sluggish for what I need them to do in Linux (MS office is considerably faster on windows than OO is on linux)
[21:44] <th0r> vock: abiword?
[21:44] <erUSUL> vock: Abiword + gnumeric ?
[21:44] <ww-joel-d> well, my at symbol is no a fricken quotation mark
[21:44] <ww-joel-d> jesus
[21:44] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, i think i found a solution
[21:44] <Turbolinux> Hello. I asked before this question and I am asking today. I have a HP Pavilion dv7-1040 notebook computer. The notebook computer works very good on Ubuntu but I can't hear sound. The soundcard is HDA Intel. What can I do?
[21:44] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: yah I couldnt find where I saw it..
[21:44] <vock> th0r, erUSUL, I'll check those out, thanks
[21:45] <sebsebseb> vock: Abiword is rather nice :)  Gnumeric  is probably a rather good spreadsheet app as well, never used it properly,  there's also KOffice
[21:45] <DasEi> vock: abiword is faster
[21:45] <iceroot> vock: LaTeX
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> vock: abiword is awesome
[21:45] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, give me a sec
[21:45] <erUSUL> Turbolinux: you can try adding the model=laptop or other model options to snd-hda-intel
[21:45] <am0k0815> LaTex
[21:45] <vock> iceroot: Latex i've been meaning to learn for a while, yeah for sure, but mostly i should have said i'm looking for an excel replacement at the moment, but good to know about abiword as well
[21:45] <sebsebseb> vock: yeah it's like  Microsoft Word before Word 2007, and without loads of the rubbish that's in it,  that hardly anyone uses
[21:45] <iceroot> vock: if you want to write good looking text
[21:45] <ww-joel-d> seidos: no luck yet, the layout is still different for xchat yet works normally in openoffice and terminal
[21:45] <erUSUL> Turbolinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> vock: if you only use writer in OOo then remove it (saves you 500Mb, then install Abiword (uses about 3Mb~)
[21:45] <seidos> ww-joel-d, what language are you using?
[21:45] <p1und3r> :is there a good way to open .mdb OR .accdb in ubuntu?
[21:45] <Turbolinux> I will try your recommendation. Thank you.
[21:46] <iceroot> vock: just use oo, you can also work with excel-files there
[21:46] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, try installing aumix-gtk frm synaptic
[21:46] <vock> iceroot: what's a good IDE for Latex? Geany work?
[21:46] <erUSUL> !search hda
[21:46] <iceroot> vock: kile
[21:46] <erUSUL> !intelhda
[21:46] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: what is that
[21:46] <sebsebseb> vock: Microsoft Word is bloated,  Abiword is far from bloated
[21:46] <TheLinuxMoron> the mixer?
[21:46] <iceroot> vock: its like texniccenter on windows
[21:47] <ww-joel-d> seidos: USA and Canada
[21:47] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, it supposedly is a tool that can control bass and treble system widxe
[21:47] <vock> iceroot: I used WinEdt for the one time i needed to use Latex, and beyond that i haven't touched it, I'll check out Kile
[21:47] <ww-joel-d> seidos: neither seem to be working
[21:47] <erUSUL> vock: excel --> gnumeric
[21:47] <nycrbot> erUSUL: Results for hda: 1. Hispanic Dental Association: http://www.hdassoc.org/ | 2. HDA, Inc. - Premier Provider of Lifestyle Media Products: http://www.hdainc.com/ | 3. HDA Parts Network - The Heavy Vehicle Professionals: http://www.hdamerica.com/
[21:47] <erUSUL> who owns that bot ?
[21:47] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino: k its installing..
[21:48] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, but honestly I'd just try something other than totem and adjust it from the application.. not the best fix but... you know
[21:48] <vock> erUSUL: Installing it know, will it open .xlsx?
[21:48] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, not 100 percent sure it'll work but this says it should
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> vock: it will do its best, xlsx is a proprietary format
[21:48] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, did you check in volume preferences to see if you had a "tone" control
[21:48] <scott_ino2> as the tone i beleive controls bass/treble
[21:48] <vock> ActionParsnip, thanks, i can always convert first i suppose, not a big deal
[21:48] <hermitcrabred> Hi again
[21:48] <seidos> ww-joel-d, it's an interesting problem.
[21:48] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: xlsx is not proprietary, its zipped xml
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> vock: the computer community at large (except MS) is pushing for an open format that all suites can use
[21:49] <erUSUL> vock: xls excel files ? yes. but VBA macros and some things may not work
[21:49] <hermitcrabred> ...can someone please give the command for checking the MD5...Thanks!
[21:49] <seidos> ww-joel-d, can you give me an example of keys that don't work, specifically?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: nice
[21:49] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, The solution is to select "Tone" in "Edit -> Preferences" in GNOME's Volume Control application and then enable it under the Switches tab. The controls then work as expected.
[21:49] <sebsebseb> vock: called Open Document Format, which  Open Office 2.0+  uses by default, also many local city councils and goverment organisations and such want this format
[21:49] <vock> perfect, thanks a lot guys, wish I asked you sooner
[21:49] <ww-joel-d> seidos: yeah, my keymapping seems to to change from browser client to irc client, etc
[21:49] <matrixblue> is it possible to run two desktop environments simultaneously?
[21:49] <ww-joel-d> seidos: very odd
[21:49] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: like docx, its also zipped xml, he old format doc,xls and so on are proprietary
[21:50] <sebsebseb> vock: also if you save a document in a propritary format, that you want to still  be able to open in say 20 years time,  well you may find you got an issue with current programs,   but if it's in an open format, you should be alright
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: every day is a school day
[21:50] <iceroot> matrixblue: yes, its working fine with 2 monitors (just edit in the nvidia-settings toll) you are running 2 x-servers then
[21:50] <messerschmitt> spanish ubuntu channel? T_T
[21:50] <seidos> ww-joel-d, that doesn't make any sense.  I was under the impression that keyboard functionality was very low level
[21:50] <dantonic> hi
[21:50] <erUSUL> !es | messerschmitt
[21:50] <dantonic> didnt work
[21:50] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: i dont c edit or prefere.
[21:51] <messerschmitt> thnks
[21:51] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: that is the interessing part of computers
[21:51] <sebsebseb> vock: programs  at the time I meant above
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: definately :D
[21:51] <dantonic> RabidWeezle,  it didnt work... all those commands
[21:51] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: did u go to ur speakers to find this?
[21:51] <ImportantGuy1> So I'm on a public wifi and I can get on IRC (as you can see) but Firefox will not load pages
[21:51] <matrixblue> iceroot I meant like on two consoles like f7 and f6
[21:51] <seidos> ww-joel-d, ah, but you're saying it only doesn't work in wubi, not anywhere else.
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ImportantGuy1: can you ping web addresses by name and ip
[21:51] <dantonic> n8tuser, it didn't work :(
[21:51] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, it should be under volume control on the little speaker icon
[21:52] <ww-joel-d> seidos: yeah, I<
[21:52] <ww-joel-d> I am almost thinking uninstall and repartion legit
[21:52] <seidos> ww-joel-d, do you have access to system -> prefs -> keyboard?
[21:52] <iceroot> matrixblue: i am sure this is also possible but dont know how
[21:52] <ImportantGuy1> ActionParsnip: I'll try
[21:52] <nycrbot> i am unable to correct problems, you have to worry where it'll end up on the client where the doc also says, if you wanted to make the computer to a pastebin for us
[21:52] <Deathvalley122> hello can someone help me here with me unable to unzip a file?
[21:52] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, then click preferences and under the tracks where it says "select tracks to be visable" see if you have a "tone" button
[21:52] <iceroot> Deathvalley122: unzip filename
[21:52] <ImportantGuy1> ActionParsnip: Pinging works 100% success
[21:52] <RabidWeezle> dantonic, look up your network card on google like, example: "realtek 8149B ubuntu disconnecting" or something like that of the sorts, see if other people are having the same issue
[21:52] <Deathvalley122> iceroot: I am getting errors
[21:52] <dantonic> RabidWeezle,  is there a way to check in ubuntu the exact model of my card?
[21:52] <Deathvalley122> when I try to unzip it ...
[21:53] <TURSQ__LUDA> http://calibrafen.hit.bg SEXY GIRL HAVEING CUM
[21:53] <TURSQ__LUDA> http://calibrafen.hit.bg SEXY GIRL HAVEING CUM
[21:53] <iceroot> !details | Deathvalley122
[21:53] <dantonic> RabidWeezle,  or my mobo?
[21:53] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: I dont  see that, what is the site for pasting pictures like paste bin ill show u
[21:53] <ww-joel-d> seidos: since I got on here I have been trying all sorts of different options on there, a lot change it but nothing is fixing it yet
[21:53] <RabidWeezle> dantonic, lspci
[21:53] <hwilde> does anybody have a way to transfer songs to iPhone yet ?
[21:53] <erUSUL> ImportantGuy1: maybe all http traffic is routed through a proxy ?
[21:53] <frostburn> hwilde, itunes on mac/windows =(
[21:53] <gravaera> hi!!
[21:53] <ww-joel-d> ????
[21:53] <seidos> ww-joel-d, have you tried unchecking "separate layout for each window"?
[21:53] <ww-joel-d> AHAHAHA
[21:53] <hwilde> frostburn, I used to do it with gtkpod ?
[21:53] <Deathvalley122> http://pastebin.com/m76e08d18
[21:53] <gravaera> hi!!
[21:53] <Taulus> I need a kernel module for my wacom tablet, I cant find it, anyone help?
[21:53] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, click your speaker icon, then select volume control. In the new window select "preferences"
[21:54] <apollo> I'd like to make my phenom II machine compile for a gentoo box on i686... how do I install a cross copmiler?
[21:54] <frostburn> hwilde, with an ipod or iphone?
[21:54] <gravaera> hi!! everyone, HI!!!
[21:54] <adac> I'd like to boot my usb stick (jaunty) in a virtual machine from my host. What tool would you suggest to do that?
[21:54] <ImportantGuy1> erUSUL: I have no knowledge of proxies
[21:54] <hwilde> frostburn, ipod
[21:54] <apollo> (using distcc_
[21:54] <frostburn> hwilde, yeah, completely different, unfortunately
[21:54] <gravaera> hi!! everyone, HI!!! I'd like ot say hello to all of you out there!!!
[21:54] <ratapoil> I need to run an expensive statistics software for university. It doesn't run under WINE, it has big display problems. My laptop is too recent for WinXP and I god it with ubuntu pre-installed, I can't seem to find a pirated VISTA out there. What options do I have - are there good Windows emulators / virtual machines I can try?
[21:54] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: yeah in that I found switches but nothing that says tone
[21:54] <gravaera> hi!! everyone, HI!!! I'd like ot say hello to all of you out there!!! So, everyone, Hello!!!!
[21:54] <ImportantGuy1> hi
[21:54] <frostburn> ratapoil, virtualbox
[21:54] <n8tuser> dantonic -> it did not restart your networking? really?
[21:55] <Deathvalley122> did anyone see the pastebin I pasted?
[21:55] <erUSUL> !vbox | ratapoil
[21:55] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, ok then it's not an option and you'll have to use either another program to make the system wide change, or do it on the applications mixer/equilizer settings
[21:55] <apollo> ubuntu cross compiler package anyone?
[21:55] <G-man> how do i make my panel span across the top of my main screen
[21:55] <gravaera> Hi right back!!! And Hi to all!!!!
[21:55] <dantonic> n8tuser, well I still have no internet after running those commands... the little icon says "Wired netowork disconnected" or something like that
[21:55] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, again totem is really bad imho but if that's what you want to use i'll see if we can figure out a way to use a mixer for totem
[21:55] <ww-joel-d> seidos: Thanks for the help!
[21:55] <sebsebseb> gravaera: hi
[21:55] <brendan`> !free
[21:55] <RabidWeezle> ratapoil, trust me, your laptop isn't too recent, it's just your laptop manufacturer doesn't have the proper drivers on their site I bet. If you look up each component yourself you will get it to work. I bought 2 new laptops in the last couple of months and had the same issues
[21:55] <seidos> ww-joel-d, :)
[21:55] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, actually one other thing first
[21:55] <gravaera> I'm having a beautiful day. What about you all??!!!!
[21:55] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, that we can try
[21:55] <brendan`> !beer
[21:56] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino2: im using vlc now I did find a equalizer.. so why dont ubuntu have tone when some does
[21:56] <G-man> nm
[21:56] <guntbert> !welcome | gravaera  do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:56] <brendan`> !abuse
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> ratapoil: if the software is crucial you could stump up for an XP license and instal XP in a virtualbox, very memory bloating but the app will work.
[21:56] <n8tuser> dantonic -> well the scripts runs the nic shutdown and then brings it up, you waited long enuff?
[21:56] <RabidWeezle> ratapoil, yes, vmware can do quite a bit like that
[21:56] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, because it's a matter of how linux handles sound output. Most users wouldn't want to control bass/treble on this "system-wide" basis... 8it's just how it's made. It offers finer control over how you use sound.
[21:57] <guntbert> !askthebot | brendan`
[21:57] <dantonic> n8tuser, I waited for the Network manager to first try restarting the connection by itself...
[21:57] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, however i might have another answer for a system wide change
[21:57] <ww-joel-d2> so much better, I was getting pretty annoyed there...
[21:57] <rshank> hey just wanted to see if anyone else was having issues getting access to the repositories..
[21:57] <seidos> n8tuser, I ran /etc/init.d/networking restart and it said it ignored eth0 and wlan0
[21:57]  * RabidWeezle scoots back to linux
[21:57] <judgen> hmm no usplash editor huh...
[21:57] <ww-joel-d2> now to get onto the forums so I can figure out why my wifi button doesn't want to work
[21:57] <Deathvalley122> did anyone see my pastebin?
[21:57] <dantonic> n8tuser,  after it gave the message of netowrk disconnected I tried those commands..., then nothing, so I clicked on the NW manager and picked "auto connect" and it tried to connect again... and nothing again
[21:58] <n8tuser> seidos really? can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[21:58] <seidos> but that makes sense, since eth0 isn't plugged in
[21:58] <TheLinuxMoron> scott_ino: yeah what ever u had me do from synaptic.. I never saw a change in the mixer.. not sure if u saw me say that or not..
[21:58] <n8tuser> dantonic -> something is amiss, can you also pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[21:58] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, linux uses various sound servers which offer a lot more flexibility with sound.. essentially you can do more than on other platforms, but can occationally cause frustration for small things such as this. your problem is somewhat unique as most would want to control it independantly, given how individual apps use sound differently
[21:59] <scott_ino2> TheLinuxMoron, give me one sec i am trying to find the other package name... not sure if you know how sound works, especially in buntu, but it now uses something called pulse audio so im having you go through the pulse audio manager but you'll need to installs omething first
[21:59] <dantonic> n8tuser, sorry can you remind me how to do that? what's the exact command I use in the terminal?
[21:59] <Swian> how can you lock a user down to specific applications in ubuntu 9.04?
[22:00] <seidos> n8tuser, my networking is working, I just ran /etc/init.d/networking restart to see what would happen
[22:00] <n8tuser> dantonic you vi the subject file and then paste in pastebin
[22:00] <n8tuser> !pastebin
[22:00] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[22:00] <n8tuser> seidos did it do what you expected it to be?
[22:00] <seidos> dantonic, you can use nano instead of vi, I find it easier.  Or gedit, if you're in gnome
[22:01] <timClicks> can anyone recommend a package uses 9.04's notification system for tweets and gmail messages?
[22:01] <seidos> n8tuser, no.  I expected wireless to go down, and then come up, which it didn't
[22:01] <dantonic> so gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[22:01] <dantonic> ?
[22:01] <timClicks> seidos: agree with you on nano, so much easier than vi
[22:01] <seidos> dantonic, I think you need to do sudo
[22:01] <erUSUL> seidos: gksudo if it is a graphical app
[22:01] <erUSUL> !gksudo
[22:02] <seidos> erUSUL, thank you, gksudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[22:02] <dantonic> seidos, n8tuser, this is all the file says: auto lo
[22:02] <dantonic> iface lo inet loopback
[22:02] <timClicks> dantonic: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[22:02] <timClicks> dantonic: will allow you to save :)
[22:02] <n8tuser> dantonic and how many interfaces do you have?
[22:03] <dantonic> n8tuser, what do you mean by interfaces? Network cards? there is only one on the motherboard
[22:03] <seidos> timClicks, I used vi some time ago on a redhat system.  I liked how it was configured to color code files
[22:03]  * timClicks nods at seidos
[22:03] <timClicks> i haven't spent a few weeks getting used to vi/vim or emacs
[22:04] <rshank> anyone else having problems accessing many of the jaunty repos?
[22:04] <seidos> timClicks, I just found this link:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62250
[22:04] <iceroot> rshank: sudo apt-get update working fine here
[22:04] <timClicks> :D
[22:04] <seidos> timClicks, I may have spent like 2 days trying emacs at school back in the 90s
[22:04] <rshank> thanks, ice...
[22:04] <judgen> anyone know why my download link on gnome-look does not work?
[22:05] <iceroot> judgen: no
[22:05] <scott_ino2> i hate when im helping people and they just leave
[22:05] <seidos> dantonic, you may want to try disabling networking and reenabling in gnome panel in the upper right side of the screen
[22:05] <dantonic> seidos, ya tried several times
[22:05] <seidos> dantonic, ah
[22:05] <scott_ino2> anyone use powertop? i got a random question
[22:05] <rshank> my sudo apt-get update stops here: 27% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.40)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.37)]
[22:06] <dantonic> seidos, been trying for a few days... and reading forums and bug reports...
[22:06] <longo> se
[22:06] <seidos> dantonic, do you have a light on your rj45 port on your laptop and router/hub/switch?
[22:06] <longo> sera
[22:06] <rshank> on two machines.
[22:06] <longo> !list
[22:06] <dantonic> seidos,  let me check
[22:06] <rshank> any suggestions?
[22:06] <scott_ino2> dantonic, did you try cleaning your apt-get cache
[22:06] <timClicks> judgen: perhaps you could try wget
[22:06] <dantonic> seidos,  well obviously it's on now! duh stupid me! :P  I can check after I suspend though...
[22:06] <n8tuser> dantonic yes network interface is the nic card.. embedded on mobo or not
[22:07] <timClicks> judgen: or right click + save file as
[22:07] <dantonic> scott_ino2, I did not how do I do that?
[22:07] <timClicks> judgen: rather than simply clicking d/kl
[22:07] <timClicks> judgen: *d/l
[22:07] <dantonic> n8tuser,  it is embedded on the mobo
[22:07] <judgen> timClicks, no, my page on gnome-files does not have a download link... even though ive added one.
[22:07] <judgen> timClicks, i made a theme
[22:07] <scott_ino2> dantonic, try "sudo apt-get clean all" without quotes
[22:07] <scott_ino2> and try again
[22:07] <timClicks> judgen: oh, no idea. don't know that site too well unfortunately
[22:07] <seidos> n8tuser, I guess nic could stand for network interface chip...
[22:08] <matrix__> hey guys iam using ffmpeg when i split a file i get lower quaility
[22:08] <iceroot> seidos: network interface card
[22:08] <n8tuser> dantonic -> so you need to have an entry on your interfaces file so that you can override the nm
[22:08] <dantonic> seidos, I did read somewhere that someone had a problem with the Nic powering off and not coming back online,  and if they re plugged the NIC in while the computer was on it would come back to life...
[22:08] <dantonic> scott_ino2, what does that do exactly?
[22:08] <timClicks> soreau, there are no twitter/gmail notifiers that work with 9.04's notification system?
[22:08] <subone> What is "sid" as far as source packages for ubuntu?
[22:08] <dantonic> n8tuser, how do I do that?
[22:08] <G-man> how do i find my external hard drive?
[22:08] <seidos> iceroot, was trying to be helpful since they aren't "cards" these days
[22:08] <timClicks> G-man: should come up automatically
[22:09] <n8tuser> dantonic  you can add an entry to that file,  man interfaces for more explanations
[22:09] <timClicks> G-man: it will be mounted to /media/
[22:09] <franck> Hi, I'm having issues with ubuntu LTS 6
[22:09] <dantonic> ok n8tuser thanks I'll give it a shot
[22:09] <n8tuser> dantonic or google for a friendlier tutorial
[22:09] <timClicks> G-man: usually as /media/disk
[22:09] <ulb> G-man: you can try "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal
[22:09] <dantonic> man interfaces
[22:09] <seidos> dantonic, do you mean replugging in the cable?
[22:09] <dantonic> oh in terminal :P
[22:09] <scott_ino2> dantonic, clears out the local repository of retrieved packages
[22:09] <franck> it seems it ignores limits.conf and ulimit is hard fixed to 1024 for all users
[22:09] <timClicks> franck: 6.06?
[22:09] <dantonic> seidos, no I read about someone actually taking their card out and putting it back in while the computer was on ROFL
[22:09] <G-man> nm there it is
[22:09] <franck> timClicks: yes
[22:09] <G-man> sometimes i have to unplug it
[22:10] <G-man> the power
[22:10] <n8tuser> franck it may be, try sysctl stuff
[22:10] <G-man> to it
[22:10] <G-man> to get it to recognize
[22:10] <G-man> ty
[22:10] <FloodBot2> G-man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:10] <dantonic> ok...
[22:10] <judgen> timClicks, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Classic+Platinum+OS9?content=111662 =))
[22:10] <franck> n8tuser:  I have fs-maxfiles to 600000
[22:10] <dantonic> gonna suspend and brb seidos scott_ino2 n8tuser   I'll let you know what I come up with..
[22:10] <seidos> dantonic, never tried hot swapping a nic
[22:10] <bambam> I am not able to login in a msn account in pidgin ! It gives me error and asks me to enable it ! I have tried enabling but doesnt work !
[22:10] <shipitkthx> ok...in running a shell script to move a bunch of directories...i've somehow managed to rename them all with some illegal character at the end...ls shows a ? at the end of every directory, tab-complete shows every directory ending with ^M/ i have 500 directories with complex names I have to fix...help?
[22:10] <judgen> timClicks, i just added a manual link =P
[22:10] <dantonic> seidos, ya me neither
[22:10] <seidos> dantonic, good luck
[22:10] <ankur> hello everyone...
[22:11] <bambam> Everytime I enable the account the checkmark disappears or the account gets disabled again
[22:11] <bambam> Any solution for that ?
[22:11] <n8tuser> franck which config was that set at?
[22:12] <franck> I set it manualy but it was at a high value anyhow.. like 300000
[22:12] <seidos> bambam, there might be.  any errors?
[22:12] <franck> n8tuser:  seems there is a bug in ubuntu but I don't see updated pam packages
[22:12] <franck> nor any documentation
[22:12] <rizzuh_desktop> Hello
[22:12] <n8tuser> franck oh okay, i dont know if its a bug or limitations
[22:12] <bambam> seidos: It just says authentication failure and asks to re-enable the account
[22:12] <seidos> bambam, I used to use pidgin with my yahoo account, but I stopped because it would have difficulties connecting
[22:13] <rizzuh_desktop> I need help with setting up wireless netwrokngi on my hp laptop
[22:13] <rizzuh_desktop> running 8.10
[22:13] <bambam> is there a hidden folder or something which I can trash and refresh pidgin ?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> bambam: mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old
[22:13] <seidos> bambam, it may be that msn has changed something in their protocol so that you'll use their client
[22:13] <savid> Is this normal for a battery that's 20 months old?   http://imgur.com/uG6HI.png
[22:13] <rizzuh_desktop> It has an atheros wireless network card, for which the driver is installed and active, but the network manager applet doesn't even recognize it
[22:14] <seidos> bambam, there was a thing going on with aim and msn awhile ago
[22:14] <bambam> ActionParsnip: .purple folder ?
[22:14] <rizzuh_desktop> savid, totally not
[22:14] <Cutter> hi
[22:14] <ankur> i was unable to use xserver services from last two days...now i managed to go to the login screen by "modprobe intel-agp" now the problem in the keyboard and mouse is not working...anyone knows how to enable it...
[22:14] <bambam> ActionParsnip: What is this purple folder and it is used by which applications !
[22:14] <Cutter> is Lubuntu faster than Xubuntu?
[22:14] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, I have an atheros wifi chip
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> bambam: ~/.purple hold the config for pidgin, nly rename it for now. once you are happy with the result, delete it
[22:15] <savid> rizzuh_desktop, would linux be the cause of that?
[22:15] <shipitkthx> ok...in running a shell script to move a bunch of directories...i've somehow managed to rename them all with some illegal character at the end...ls shows a ? at the end of every directory, tab-complete shows every directory ending with ^M/ i have 500 directories with complex names I have to fix...help?
[22:15] <bambam> seidos: Oh ! I have heard that so thought to consult fellow users !
[22:15] <MTec007> !info portio
[22:16] <drmrhorse_> Cutter: i found lxde a bit buggy in jaunty, but very fast
[22:16] <savid> Too bad Dell's standard battery warranty is only one year :-(
[22:16] <timClicks> Cutter: try them both out
[22:16] <rizzuh_desktop> I have a problem with my HP laptop: I can't see any wireless network, as the applet manager doesn't even know that I have a wireless network card. What can I do to fix it?
[22:16] <timClicks> Cutter: I don't really like LDXE
[22:16] <ankur> while modprobing it was giving me some warning...and i have to use it every time i boot...
[22:16] <rizzuh_desktop> Running 8.10.
[22:17] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, have you tried sudo lshw in terminal?
[22:17] <rizzuh_desktop> sewc
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> timClicks: i think its groovy
[22:17] <timClicks> ActionParsnip: the speed is excellent! I just felt some work needed to be done on the panel
[22:19] <Dominik1> with only pidgin and system monitor open i have a very high CPU usage (min: 60%, max 100%, average 80%) what services can I disable to speed things up?
[22:19] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos: what should I look for?
[22:19] <akiga> hi any body know how to play the .wmv files in ubuntu
[22:19] <bambam> ActionParsnip: I just did what you told, now I can login on pidgin but all my buddies are gone ! the entire list is empty
[22:19] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, the right module for the atheros ar242x is the ath5k module
[22:19] <shane2peru> akiga: with vlc
[22:19] <matcor9925> Has anyone tried installing dynagen/dynamips on 9.04 x64?
[22:19] <akiga> i am new to ubuntu and linux
[22:19] <shane2peru> akiga: you may need to install vlc, it is in the repos
[22:20] <scott_ino2> Dominik1, use the "top" command in a terminal to see what services are actually running, system monitor isn't necessarily the best indication of what's going on
[22:20] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, atheros and ath5k underneath
[22:20] <akiga> i tried with vlc but no use noaudi and video
[22:20] <[tla]> Hi.  I have a Hardy server I only have terminal server access to. The server has an 8.03 alternate CD in its local drive.   I need to get "ifenslave" on the server but does not appear to be on the -alternate CD.  I have the ifenslave .deb on another server.  I figured I could paste the .deb via the term serv if it was ascii so "uuencode" (sharutils) would textify it for me.  Problem is,...
[22:20] <[tla]> ...sharutils does not appear to be on the -alternate CD so I have no way of getting that onto the target server!  Any idea how I can transfer the binary using standard utils available on the -alternate CD?  Thx.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> bambam: think about it, you just renamed your profile, so you will get a new blank one
[22:20] <bambam> ActionParsnip: Oops ! Sorry ... the list is there ! thanks for the solution it worked..
[22:20] <ankur> i was unable to use xserver services from last two days...now i managed to go to the login screen by "modprobe intel-agp" now the problem in the keyboard and mouse is not working...anyone knows how to enable it...
[22:20] <Dominik1> scott_ino2: Xorg is taking 50% of my CPU
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> bambam: test it a day or so, if you are happy. delete the old one
[22:21] <bambam> ActionParsnip: I just need to checkmark to show offline buddies :P
[22:21] <Dulak> tla: ssh?
[22:21] <bambam> ActionParsnip: I already trashed the old one !
[22:21] <matcor9925> Has anyone tried installing dynagen/dynamips on 9.04 x64?
[22:21] <bambam> Its gone forever
[22:21] <[tla]> Dulak: only have term serv access - ie copy / paste
[22:21] <akiga> hi shane2peru i tried it but its not working
[22:21] <G-man> lolz
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> bambam: then you are running with the current one then
[22:21] <bambam> Yup
[22:21] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos, I found the card there, but I don't see ath5k anywhere
[22:22] <olinuxx> yep'
[22:22] <akiga> plz any body help me
[22:22] <shane2peru> akiga: hmm, usually works for me, you may need to look at installing codecs, one second let me get you the link
[22:22] <Dulak> tla: you can't ssh from the linux box term?
[22:22] <G-man> so i take it , if u have a windows cd and key, then there is no need for razor?
[22:22] <G-man> i mean Wine
[22:22] <Dominik1> thanks the CPU issue seemed to have been caused by system monitor alone
[22:22] <akiga> ok thank you
[22:22] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, can you paste it to paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:22] <bambam> ActionParsnip: One more think ...... where does ubuntu stores the user events or caches them... like recent documents, files I opened in openoffice,totem media player..
[22:22] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos: I would, but I don't have an Internet conenction
[22:23] <shane2peru> akiga: you will need to look at this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/
[22:23] <rizzuh_desktop> on thew laptop
[22:23] <bambam> ActionParsnip: I want to delete the cache,the traits and bring my system to the state when it was installed.. like freshly installed system
[22:23] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, do sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and see if ath5k is listed there
[22:23] <rizzuh_desktop> let me see if I can find a flash drive around
[22:23] <akiga> thank you i will see that link
[22:23] <Defcon> what is the chat room for remote-exploit
[22:23] <[tla]> Dulak: have RDP from local to TS then ssh from TS to target server.  cant xfer files to/from TS.  Can only copy/paste text
[22:23] <I> hallo
[22:24] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, try checking the blacklist first.  you should have ath_hal and ath_pci in that file
[22:24] <ankur> is anyone there to help me...
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> bambam: what cache ?
[22:24] <Guest20606> can anybody help me i bough a Alfa Network card usb i plug it in but i cant find it
[22:24] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos, no
[22:25] <Guest20606> do i have to mount the card like a usb drive would be
[22:25] <Guest20606> ?
[22:25] <Guest20606> wireless card
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest20606: no you dont mount it
[22:25] <shipitkthx> ok...in running a shell script to move a bunch of directories...i've somehow managed to rename them all with some illegal character at the end...ls shows a ? at the end of every directory, tab-complete shows every directory ending with ^M/ i have 500 directories with complex names I have to fix...help?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest20606: run: sudo lshw -C network
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Guest20606: the output will help you websearch
[22:25] <Guest20606> i have done ifconfig iwconfig and i did see it once but since a reboot its not there
[22:25] <bambam> ActionParsnip: Like recently opened files, documents, commands,website visited, videos watched, packages updated, old packages unnecessarily taking space, remains of uninstalled or remove packages etc !
[22:26] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, no, ath5k is not in your blacklist?
[22:26] <rizzuh_desktop> no
[22:26] <Dulak> tla: if you can ssh out from the box you want to install on, you can use scp to transfer files
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> bambam: sudo apt-get clean
[22:26] <bambam> ActionParsnip: you want me to install another package ?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> bambam: browser cache can be cleared using the browser
[22:26] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos, http://codepad.org/Isdywb0t
[22:26] <ankur> i was unable to use xserver services from last two days...now i managed to go to the login screen by "modprobe intel-agp" now the problem in the keyboard and mouse is not working...anyone knows how to enable it...
[22:26] <ergo123> hello, did anyone experienced recently problems with disks and ubuntu ?
[22:26] <bambam> ActionParsnip:  I have cruftremover already on the system but that aint doing any good
[22:27] <tanino> sorry but this chat is only in english?
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> bambam: theres computer janitor which may help
[22:27] <ergo123> i had a system crash and now ubuntu doesnt start with grub error 15
[22:27] <Guest20606> it only shows the intell card i am using now
[22:27] <franck> how do you upgrade a ubuntu kernel, just select it in aptitude and reboot?
[22:27] <shane2peru> !english | tanino
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Guest20606: try: lspci; lspcmcia; lsusb
[22:28] <tanino> thanks
[22:28] <bambam> ActionParsnip: computer janitor ! is that the name of application/package and from where do I get it ?
[22:28] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, I think all you need is to download ath5k from synaptic
[22:28] <shane2peru> tanino: no prob
[22:28] <[tla]> franck: apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:28] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, do a search in synaptic for ath5k, I think it's in a backports module, but I don't remember which one
[22:28] <Guest20606> now what how do i get it to run and show up under iwconfig
[22:28] <Dantonic> well... NO Luck..
[22:28] <franck> [tla]: aptitude too?
[22:28] <Dantonic> :(
[22:28] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos: I have an atheros driver loaded, it shows up in hardware drivers
[22:29] <Keelan> oh wow
[22:29] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos: is the backports module on the live cde?
[22:29] <Keelan> just listening to you guys makes me feel stupid
[22:29] <rizzuh_desktop> *cd
[22:29] <bxcttr1> :-D
[22:29] <Dantonic> Not really sure what I'm doing with the interfaces file I tried reading the man n8tuser but I don't know what I shoudl or shouldnt't be adding to it..
[22:29] <Keelan> i have a quick question though
[22:29] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, that is probably the ath_pci or ath_hal driver, which I have blacklisted because it doesn't work with atheros ar242x
[22:29] <xmnt_> Keelan, get used to it ... you have a long life ahead of you
[22:29] <Keelan> or starement, rather
[22:29] <Keelan> statement*
[22:29] <Guest20606> i ahve the drivers to install off the cd but they said for backtrack it would work out of the box
[22:30] <Dantonic> seidos, I checked the lights behind the NW card... the green light is on but the orange one is off...  idk what that means
[22:30] <[tla]> franck: dont use it so dunno.  all uses the same db though.  note dist-upgrade will upgrade everything you have installed to the latest, not just the kernel
[22:30] <Dulak> xmnt_: rofl
[22:30] <Keelan> :D
[22:30] <Dantonic> seidos,  orange is for NW traffic and green is for power?
[22:30] <ankur> i was unable to use xserver services from last two days...now i managed to go to the login screen by "modprobe intel-agp" now the problem in the keyboard and mouse is not working...anyone knows how to enable it...
[22:30] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos: umm, okay, is that driver available on the live cd?
[22:30] <seidos> Dantonic, orange is traffic and green is "connected"
[22:31] <Dantonic> seidos, ok so at least I know it's connected and getting power
[22:31] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, I'm not sure yet, I didn't install it off the live cd.  can you connect to a wired connection?
[22:31] <Keelan> i don't want to interrupt
[22:31] <Dantonic> although the NW manager says it's disconnected seidos
[22:31] <sebsebseb> Keelan: hi
[22:31] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Keelan
[22:31] <Guest20606> can someone please help me install a package
[22:31] <Guest20606> ?
[22:31] <rizzuh_desktop> seidos: I don't have another cable... and this one is kinda short to reach the laptop
[22:32] <Keelan> alright
[22:32] <seidos> Dantonic, what do you mean by NW manager?
[22:32] <xmnt_> Keelan, I was just kidding - state your problems and ye shall be rewarded
[22:32] <Guest20606> im a noob so deal with me
[22:32] <sebsebseb> !attitude | Guest20606
[22:32] <Dantonic> seidos, the little network icon at the top right? isnt that the NW manager?
[22:32] <sebsebseb> Guest20606: which package?
[22:32] <Dantonic> idk what that's called
[22:32] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, look for a backports module on the cd
[22:32] <Guest20606> its drivers for my alfa usb wireless card
[22:32] <rizzuh_desktop> sec
[22:32] <Guest20606> off the cd
[22:33] <seidos> rizzuh_desktop, for 8.10
[22:33] <rizzuh_desktop> hope that the live distro I'm running now doesn't crash if I pop out the cd
[22:33] <MTec007> Dantonic, im pretty sure its NetworkManager :)
[22:33] <seidos> Dantonic, I guess :)
[22:33] <rizzuh_desktop> yay can't eject module...>.>
[22:33] <Keelan> I was wondering how to use a Linksys WRT160Nv2 router with Ubuntu, as i have no experience with anything. I attempted to use ndis-wrapper but i got some errors. Any suggestions?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Keelan
[22:33] <ankur> i was unable to use xserver services from last two days...now i managed to go to the login screen by "modprobe intel-agp" now the problem in the keyboard and mouse is not working...anyone knows how to enable it...
[22:33] <seidos> Dantonic, I asked because there is a network program in system -> prefs.  wnated to make sure we're talking about the same thing
[22:34] <Guest20606> here are the build instructions
[22:34] <seidos> Dantonic, do you know how to use gnome-conf-editor?
[22:34] <Guest20606> uild Instructions:
[22:34] <Guest20606> [22:34] <Guest20606> 1> $tar -xvzf RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x.tar.gz
[22:34] <Guest20606> 	go to "./RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x/" directory.
[22:34] <Guest20606> 2> prepare the firmware (bin file) and the profile (dat file).
[22:34] <FloodBot2> Guest20606: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:34] <se1> i tried to upgrade from intrepid to jaunty but the auto upgrade couldn't find "http://ftp.usf.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mono/libmono-cairo1.0-cil_2.0.1-4ubuntu0.1_all.deb" at the very end. any ideas?
[22:34] <matrix__> anyone who knows how split works i have a file i want to split it in 2 pieces
[22:34] <Dantonic> seidos,  no but I'm eager to learn!
[22:34] <Keelan> Ubottu: I honestly don't know which guide to use :3
[22:34] <Keelan> sigh, really?
[22:34] <se1> lucas... it's jake
[22:34] <MTec007> seidos, if thats not NetworkManager, NetworkManager also opens that :)
[22:34] <kd8JHC> matrix: type "man split"
[22:35] <MTec007> seidos, IF.. but i think thats also NM
[22:35] <Guest20606> so im stuck as to what to do
[22:35] <seidos> MTec007, is network manager the same as "Network Connections"?
[22:35] <MTec007> i think its one in the same
[22:35] <sebsebseb> Keelan: yeah wireless can be a bit tricky
[22:35] <sebsebseb> Keelan: to configure
[22:35] <matrix__> anyone who knows how split works i have a file i want to split it in 2 pieces
[22:36] <se1> lucas... is that you?
[22:36] <MTec007> seidos, im no expert so i could be very very wrong.
[22:36] <kd8JHC> matrix__: type "man split"
[22:36] <coilette> whats the arguemant i need to add to the end of the command to start minimized?
[22:36] <Guest20606> sebsebseb you there?
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Guest20606: yes
[22:36] <matrix__> there is no example on man split
[22:36] <Guest20606> did u see the buil instructions
[22:36] <Guest20606> im stuck on how to do so
[22:36] <sebsebseb> Guest20606: no
[22:36] <Keelan> hum
[22:37] <coilette> i want kopete to start, and just sit in the system tray
[22:37] <MTec007> matrix__, still need to split that avi?
[22:37] <Guest20606> 1> $tar -xvzf RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x.tar.gz
[22:37] <Guest20606> <Guest20606>  go to "./RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x/" directory.
[22:37] <Guest20606> <Guest20606> 2> prepare the firmware (bin file) and the profile (dat file).
[22:37] <Guest20606> <Guest20606>  $cp common/rt2870.bin /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/
[22:37] <Guest20606> <Guest20606>  $cp RT2870STA.dat  /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/
[22:37] <FloodBot2> Guest20606: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <Guest20606> <Guest20606> 3> compile the source code.
[22:37] <seidos> MTec007, I'm no expert either.  I thought network manager was in the gnome panel, but I thought network preferences was different, but connected to the same thing.  I will call them both network manager.
[22:37] <kd8JHC> matrix: but it tells you how to use the command
[22:37] <MTec007> kd8JHC, does split work on binary files?
[22:37] <matrix__> Mtec007: yes iam doing with ffmpeg i get low quaility
[22:37] <iceroot> MTec007: on all files
[22:37] <Keelan> sebsebseb"which one would i use to set up
[22:37] <Keelan> oops
[22:37] <kd8JHC> yes
[22:38] <Guest20606> i dont know if it lets me it says i flooded the chat
[22:38] <MTec007> will both halves of an avi work?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Keelan: I don't do wireless :D
[22:38] <Keelan> bah
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Keelan: stick around and there may be someone else who can help you
[22:38] <Guest20606> 1> $tar -xvzf RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x.tar.gz
[22:38] <Keelan> anyone here any good with wireless?
[22:38] <Keelan> alright
[22:38] <adac> What is the command line command for the grafical program to share the desktop?
[22:38] <seidos> Dantonic, in network manager, in the system tray, after you suspend disabling your network connection and reenabling your network connection might fix your problem.  It worked with my wifi, but I haven't had that problem in a long time
[22:38] <Guest20606> go to "./RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x/" directory.
[22:38] <Keelan> well, i have to leave soon, but ill probably be back later
[22:38] <coilette> i know some Keelan
[22:38] <Guest20606> > prepare the firmware (bin file) and the profile (dat file)
[22:38] <iceroot> Keelan: just ask a detailed question
[22:38] <fccf> Keelan: what hardware?
[22:38] <Guest20606> $cp common/rt2870.bin /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/
[22:38] <Keelan> its the WRT160Nv2
[22:39] <Guest20606> $cp RT2870STA.dat  /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/
[22:39] <Keelan> @fccf
[22:39] <iceroot> Guest20606: please ask a real, short and detailed question
[22:39] <zvacet> !openvpn
[22:39] <Guest20606>  compile the source code.
[22:39] <Guest20606>  $make all
[22:39] <fccf> Keelan: is that a usb adaptor?
[22:39] <matrix__> can anyone help me to split an .mp4 file
[22:39] <seidos> Guest20606, what are you asking?
[22:39] <matrix__> helllllllllllllllloooooooooooo
[22:39] <Guest20606> how to install these drivers
[22:39] <Keelan> fccf: oh, im sorry, i just gave you the router model
[22:39] <Dantonic> ya seidos been trying that... but how do you exactly disable/reenable? do you mean just right click and uncheck the "Enable" box? and then check it again?
[22:39] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi guys, how much ram can ubuntu support? (32-bit)
[22:39] <Guest20606> i have the package but how do i unzip and install
[22:39] <zafron> test
[22:40] <iceroot> matrix__: split --help
[22:40] <seidos> Dantonic, that's all I do, wish I could do more
[22:40] <Keelan> fccf: ill check the model on the adapter, and yes it is UDB
[22:40] <Keelan> fccf: USB*
[22:40] <seidos> Dantonic, well, I should say that's all I've done, and if it works for you, then the gnome-conf-editor setting may help you...permanently
[22:41] <Dantonic> seidos, ya doesnt work... :( sigh I'm ready to give up on this...  really put so many hours into it... idk if it's even worth trying anymore I reported a bug somewhere too.. idk havent received any response on that
[22:41] <matrix__> iceroot:there is no example
[22:41] <Keelan> fccf: its a WUSB600N
[22:41] <iceroot> matrix__: of course there is
[22:41] <matrix__> can you give me a fucking example cause iam tired of man and google shitzzzzzzzzzzz
[22:41] <seidos> Dantonic, open source is the way to go, I didn't give up on my ath5k wifi
[22:41] <Dantonic> seidos,  ah I see so the gnome-conf-editor allows you to set what? options commands to be executed at certian times?
[22:41] <seidos> Dantonic, now I'm happy.  If you're patient I'm sure a solution will present itself
[22:42] <xangua> Dantonic: problems with an atheros¿¿ have you tried 'ndiswrapper' ¿¿
[22:42] <seidos> Dantonic, it allows one to set resetting of the network interface after suspend, though I may have some verbiage wrong on that one
[22:42] <MTec007> matrix__, if you cant take the time to read either man, --help or google, why should any one take the time to help you?
[22:42] <kd8JHC> matrix: here's your fscking example http://www.computerhope.com/unix/usplit.htm
[22:42] <kd8JHC> go read
[22:42] <matrix__> iam readin and following examples but its not fucking working
[22:43] <kd8JHC> and learn
[22:43] <FloodBot2> kd8JHC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <Dantonic> seidos, I know it's just... if it's not one thing it's another  I had another box and I had issues with the sound card not working and that took me days and days to fix now on this box it's the Nic.. :( it's not deal breaking but I used to always use suspend... I'm sort of addicted to it... I was thinking of installing ubuntu on my notebook but if this could happen on the notebook where suspend is crucial idk if I wan tto take that step
[22:43] <Keelan> owned
[22:43] <Dantonic> xangua,  I have not tried that how do I do that?
[22:43] <Guest20606> what is the chat room for backtrack - - remote-exploit
[22:43] <iceroot> matrix__: read the help, i dont what to help you
[22:43] <iceroot> matrix__: split --help
[22:43] <torn> Does anyone know how to get a website (which uses Oracle Jinitiator) to work under Linux? Wine and Playonlinux did not work, and I tried everything else I could think of. I heard there is a way to "trick" Firefox into using the Java plugin to handle jinit-applets? (I have an example website of this.)
[22:44] <xangua> Dantonic: ooh is a suspension problem, i thought a wifi problem
[22:44] <torn> The website is: gorms.compass-usa.com
[22:44] <Dantonic> ya xangua after suspend I lose network capability
[22:44] <Keelan> fccf: do you know if it will work? I assume it will, because its fairly popular, but i haven't had any luck
[22:44] <scott_ino2> Dantonic, i thought you had a wifi problem as well... with it cutting out
[22:44] <iceroot> matrix__: and if you are smart you will the that it is smething like split -b 100 filename (this will split the file into 100byte parts) the rest is up to you and the help
[22:44] <Dantonic> xangua, it thinks it is disconnected...
[22:44] <Guest20606> ANYBODY USE BACKTRACK
[22:44] <Dantonic> scott_ino2, nah, btw I tried clearing the cache too
[22:45] <ratapoil> I disabled polling of CDROM using hal-disable-device, how do I reenable it?
[22:45] <iceroot> !anyone | Guest20606
[22:45] <sebsebseb> !caps |  Guest20606
[22:45] <scott_ino2> Dantonic, well clearing the cache wouldn't fix the networkmanager problem
[22:45] <ratapoil> I disabled polling of CDROM using hal-disable-device, how do I reenable it?
[22:45] <matrix__> iceroot: you piece of shit where do you see an example here with your fscking split --help here is the fsccking output http://www.pastebin.ca/1561547
[22:45] <seidos> Dantonic, I'm sorry I couldn't be more help
[22:45] <matrix__> can you tell me now where is that shitty example you piece of shit
[22:45] <Dantonic> no seidos  thank you very much for your time I sincerely appreciate it
[22:45] <IdleOne> ratapoil: hal-enable-device?
[22:45] <fccf> Keelan: the model name is a little wierd ... but this should help http://www.apfelkraut.org/2009/02/howto-wlan-ralink-rt2870-usb-stick-kubuntu-810/ .... the chip is rt287
[22:45] <MTec007> matrix__, thats quite enough of the language
[22:45] <Dantonic> and everyone else for tha tmatter...
[22:45] <iceroot> !wtf | matrix__
[22:46] <Dantonic> I'm gonna take a break and have some coffee :) bbl
[22:46] <scott_ino2> matrix__, man just walk away it's not worth it
[22:46] <fccf> Keelan * rt2870
[22:46] <iceroot> matrix__: i have posted you an example, so stop trolling or leave
[22:46] <Keelan> thanks fccf
[22:46] <ratapoil> IdleOne: command doesn't exist
[22:46] <scott_ino2> Dantonic, could try something other than networkmanager
[22:46] <matrix__> iceroot: you said it was an example in split --help
[22:46] <Keelan> fccf: will that work on jaunty jackolope?
[22:46] <iceroot> matrix__: go home troll
[22:46] <IdleOne> ratapoil: man hal-disable-device should tell you. I am guessing here btw
[22:46] <matrix__> so who is trolling you fucking idiot
[22:46] <matrix__> iceroot: you said it was an example in split --help
[22:47] <moond1> can anyone help?  Im using jaunty and I cant seem to connect to my other computer in networking.  work group wont show up?
[22:47] <IdleOne> !ops | matrix__
[22:47] <G-man> how would i go about making a small partition for windows
[22:47] <nicklas_> !swear
[22:47] <G-man> my main OS is ubuntu
[22:47] <iceroot> !gparted | G-man
[22:47] <torn> Does anyone have an idea on jinitiator and Linux?
[22:47] <scott_ino2> moond1, you have to set it up
[22:47] <scott_ino2> moond1, is this another linux machine or windows machine
[22:47] <moond1> scott ill pm you
[22:47] <scott_ino2> k
[22:48] <G-man> thanks
[22:48] <G-man> do i have to make boot disc for gparted or can i just simply run it
[22:48] <G-man> ?
[22:48] <Solar_Flare> Again, Hi.
[22:48] <Keelan> will the guide on how to configure the wireless adapter for 8.10 work on 9.x?
[22:48] <fccf> Keelan: it is looking like you will need to use the windows drivers and ndiswrapper ... install ndiswrapper ndisgtk and deps .. use ndisgtk to load the windows .inf file on the driver disk that came with the card
[22:48] <IdleOne> G-man: you can use gparted from ubuntu live cd
[22:48] <Adilae> anyone have any idea how to get an Atheros AR242X (AR5007EG) wireless card working on a computer that has absolutely no access to the internet right now?  All the guides I find tell me to install stuff :/
[22:48] <Solar_Flare> does anyone know a good reference on how to get a Canon Lide 50 Scanner working with Ubuntu?
[22:48] <seidos> Dantonic, you can try gconf-editor, general, check network sleep
[22:48] <Keelan> hmmmmmmm
[22:48] <iceroot> G-man: you can simple run it but its better to use a liv-cd
[22:49] <G-man> how would i make a live cd in ubuntu
[22:49] <iceroot> Solar_Flare: google  is a good place for this or the ubuntu-forums
[22:49] <xmnt_> anyone know the keyboard shortcut to open nautilus
[22:49] <Keelan> fccf: i honestly have no idea how to do that, im an Ubuntu novice
[22:49] <seidos> is disabling/enabling a network interface in network manager the same as using ifconfig interface up/down?
[22:49] <iceroot> G-man: just read the link ubottu gave you and download it
[22:49] <coilette> i need help with FTP server, i get "Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use
[22:49] <x404x> Can gparted resize partitions without erasing data
[22:49] <x404x> ?
[22:50] <Adilae> G-man: simply download or buy an ubuntu install CD, stick it into the computer, and reboot.  You'll have the option to try ubuntu without making changes.
[22:50] <iceroot> x404x: yes
[22:50] <zvacet> G-man : if you download Gparted burn ti and boot from it
[22:50] <Solar_Flare> iceroot: i googled ^^ didn't bring up anything usefull, so i thought, asking in the ubuntu channel wouldnt hurt
[22:50] <iceroot> x404x: but only non-mounted drives
[22:50] <IdleOne> x404x: yes but better be safe then sorry. backup
[22:50] <Solar_Flare> iceroot: maybe someone has had the same problem.
[22:50] <fccf> Keelan: how to here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper .... and you might want www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[22:50] <Keelan> thanks!
[22:50] <iceroot> Solar_Flare: yes that is right but normaly someone is usng this printer with ubuntu and google will find the thread
[22:50] <x404x> hm ok thanx ice and idle
[22:50] <zvacet> x404x : yes
[22:51] <G-man> i can do it with a flash drive as well right?
[22:51] <Adilae> (please pm so I see your answer) anyone have any idea how to get an Atheros AR242X (AR5007EG) wireless card working on a computer that has absolutely no access to the internet right now?  All the guides I find tell me to install stuff :/
[22:51] <TD> Exception (Function 'LogMessageHandler' timed out after 10 seconds) during event 'onPrivmsg' handler IRCLoggerModule.LogMessageHandler at AbstractCalls.TimedOut on line 200: self.TimeOut)
[22:51] <coilette> !pm | Adilea
[22:51] <kd8JHC> Adilae: use another computer to d/l the drivers
[22:51] <iceroot> Adilae: your client will highlight if your nick was written
[22:51] <x404x> hm if i want to resize the boot/system drive i have to boot from a livecd or something to resize them ?
[22:51] <rsk> Adilae: you could write the driver and compile it, if you have a compiler installed and linux headers
[22:51] <iceroot> Adilae: so dont need pm
[22:52] <zvacet> G-man : yes it is http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[22:52] <Adilae> well I wasn't sure if anyone had replied before >.<
[22:52] <zvacet> G-man : instructions
[22:52] <coilette> Adilae most IRC clients highlight text or ping you when simebody says your name
[22:52] <Keelan> fccf: Will i be able to do all this if i boot live, or should i just install ubuntu? I used to have it but i couldn't get internet so it was pointless
[22:53] <seidos> Adilae, there is a backport that might work for you.  Let me see if i can find it.  If you have the cd, it might be on it.
[22:53] <xTheGoat121x> So whenever I try to boot the Jaunty LiveCD, right after the usplash, it puts my system into a mode that cannot be displayed on my LCD
[22:53] <Keelan> nevermind, im installing it anyway
[22:53] <xTheGoat121x> And I have no idea how to fix this
[22:53] <coilette> does anybody know how to set up a FTP server? (just for local network computers) i get an "address in use" error
[22:53] <Keelan> gotta go
[22:53] <ejv_> how can I tunnel wget over ssh? so it looks like a request is coming from another location?
[22:53] <seidos> Adilae, linux-backports-modules-jaunty I believe has the ath5k driver, which you need to get ar242x working
[22:54] <iceroot> ejv: why not loggin in with ssh and then start wget or use rsh?
[22:54] <seidos> Adilae, you can also search for ath5k using sudo find / -name ath5k
[22:55] <Zirg> what's the 'name' for 8.04 LTS?? (e.g. hardy, intrepid, jaunty, karmic, etc)
[22:55] <fccf> Keelan: if you download ndiswrapper (3 files) shown on the howto page within the installer and install them into the live mode ... you will just have to do it again after the install ... you will use the windows drivers disk after that is installed to put the wireless drivers into ndisgtk
[22:55] <erUSUL> Zirg: hardy heron
[22:55] <iceroot> !hardy | Zirg
[22:55] <Zirg> erUSUL, Thank You Very Much!
[22:55] <Adilae> thanks people.  I've got some things to try now.  I'll get those backports (found out which packages I need) and see if that works.
[22:55] <seidos> Adilae, this is where I have ath5k on my system, which is the driver that works for my ar242x chip:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/268805/
[22:56] <coilette> can somebody help me with pure-ftpd?
[22:56] <iceroot> !anyone | coilette
[22:56] <coilette> iceroot, i've asked my question, ohh 3 times now
[22:57] <sergiu1> Hi
[22:57] <coilette> does anybody know how to set up a FTP server? (just for local network computers) i get an "address in use" error
[22:57] <iceroot> coilette: sorry, i dont scroll the channel
[22:57] <Solar_Flare> oh damn.
[22:57] <seidos> !ar242x
[22:57] <sergiu1> i had downloaded adobe flash from site, there is an file libflashplayer.so, anyone know how to install it?
[22:58] <seidos> !ath5k
[22:58] <seidos> !atheros
[22:58] <Solar_Flare> can i somehow wrap a windows driver into ubuntu??
[22:58] <x404x> any pointers to install diablo news server ? I am a little confused by the install dox
[22:58] <seidos> Solar_Flare, do you mean using ndiswrapper?
[22:58] <seidos> !ndiswrapper
[22:59] <Solar_Flare> seidos: not wireless... ndiswrapper just supports wireless drivers, if i am not mistraken
[22:59] <Solar_Flare> oh damn.
[22:59] <x404x> I have compiled diablo and am unsure of the next step or how to setup incoming newsfeed, preferably using multisuck
[22:59] <fccf> coilette: ftp is disabled in ubuntu for a reason ( it is not secure ) .... SSH (openssh) does the same thing and you can do everything you can do with ftp and it will be secure
[23:00] <fccf> coilette: I believe that is the second time I have told you that
[23:00] <G_A_C> Solar_Flare: ndiswrapper should support all cards
[23:00] <x404x> why is ftp unsecure ?
[23:00] <Solar_Flare> G_A_C it is NOT a wireless card.
[23:00] <coilette> fccf nope, either you didnt type my name, or i missed it.
[23:00] <Solar_Flare> it is a SCANNER
[23:00] <seidos> Solar_Flare, I've only used ndiswrapper on a wireless card
[23:01] <coilette> fccf how do i enable ftp?
[23:01] <d_b> x404x: it's not encrypted
[23:01] <Solar_Flare> like, put a picture in, digitalize it.
[23:01] <fccf> x404x: passwords get sent un-uncrypted
[23:01] <Solar_Flare> ^^
[23:01] <kd8JHC> coilltte: you want to enable SSH.. then you can use SFTP to transfer files securely
[23:01] <seidos> Solar_Flare, unfortunately I don't have the skill to do anything close to what you want
[23:02] <[tla]> Dulak: just figured out gpg is installed by default in ubuntu so using that the create an ascii armored file "gpg -a -c -o <outfile> <infile>" lets me paste it and the decrypt the other end with "gpg -d -o <outfile> <infile>".  works a treat ;)
[23:02] <d_b> coilette: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590 is good if you want to share files in 1 folder (and subfolders) only and only want to allow sftp in ssh.
[23:03] <d_b> coilette: though I missed everything you wrote earlier so I don't have a clue what you want to do :)
[23:03] <acts_as_rubyist> qq: how do I enter a runlevel manually on Ubuntu Server? I tried init 2 to no avail.
[23:03] <fccf> coilette: better question - what do you need ftp for ... public ftp access?
[23:04] <coilette> d_b i installed pure-ftpd but i cant get it working
[23:04] <acts_as_rubyist> I'm trying to debug my rc2.d/ settings but I don't want to restart the server to test them
[23:04] <coilette> d
[23:05] <Pengytheduckwin> Does flash make firefox crash on anybody else's karmic machine or is it just mine?
[23:05] <coilette> d_b says the address is in use, but i have no other FTP servers running
[23:05] <fccf> !karmic | Pengytheduckwin
[23:05] <xTheGoat121x> Is there anyway to manually set the resolution of the screen res on the LiveCD
[23:05] <d_b> coilette: if what you want to share is in one folder and you want security I recommend sftp, if not I can't help you as I never got an ftp server running. Took the easy (for me anyway) way out and set up sftp instead :)
[23:06] <acts_as_rubyist> anyone? manually entering a runlevel or testing rc settings in ubuntu server?
[23:06] <erUSUL> acts_as_rubyist: telinit ?
[23:06] <erUSUL> !runlevel
[23:07] <acts_as_rubyist> righton. now if i wanted to test my current rc2.d settings, how would i get them to run without restarting the box?
[23:08] <erUSUL> acts_as_rubyist: sudo telinit 2 ?
[23:08] <acts_as_rubyist> lemme see
[23:08] <Dantonic> seidos, how do I use gconf editor?
[23:08] <Dantonic> scott_ino2,  what else did you have in mind other than network manager?
[23:09] <acts_as_rubyist> hmm... doesn't seem to be working. Either my settings are not functioning, or... some other thing.
[23:09] <johannes_> hi, I think about setting up a diskless server, but I have some questions: 1. How much ram does the Client need? Is it any faster, when I put 4 GB instead of 3 GB into it? 2. Is it faster, if I use Gigabit Ethernet instead of Fast Ethernet? 3. Is the image loaded into the clients ram at the beginning and it doesnt need the server anymore or does it use the server as a harddisk?
[23:09] <seidos> Dantonic, type gconf-editor in a terminal
[23:09] <seidos> Dantonic, had to double check
[23:10] <acts_as_rubyist> erUSUL:
[23:10] <acts_as_rubyist> erUSUL: thanks for the cmd
[23:10] <erUSUL> acts_as_rubyist: no problem
[23:10] <tj83> hey all, I need a little guidance, I am getting grub error 22 after an install, I have installed ubuntu on many machines but this one has me stuck, 22= no such partition and well, I mount the drive from the live cd, I use vol_id to verify the UUID in menu.lst and fstab are correct. what else to do?
[23:10] <Dantonic> seidos, I have it up not sure what I can do with it? how do I use it?
[23:11] <fccf> johannes_: read this .. it should answer your questions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[23:11] <Dantonic> !gconf
[23:11] <Dantonic> !gconf-editor
[23:11] <seidos> Dantonic, I have it up too
[23:11] <presumida> hiii
[23:11] <presumida> please does anyone got a macbook with ubuntu?
[23:11]  * Solar_Flare loves compiling. Gives you time for a coffee.
[23:11] <zopiac> my mom's new wireless mouse isn't being recognised on her eeePC with the Ubuntu Netbook Remix, does anyone know perhaps why?
[23:11] <Adam24> how do I force quit an app in Jaunty Jackelope?
[23:11] <presumida> hahah solar :P
[23:12] <tj83> Adam24, killall
[23:12] <seidos> Dantonic, under apps, gnome-power-manager, general, check the network sleep check box
[23:12] <zopiac> it has a USB attachment for the wireless signal, and even the optional cord isn't working, but it works fine on my computer (with ubuntu)
[23:12] <Solar_Flare> Adam24: open terminal, get applicatopn name type "killall applicationname"
[23:12] <tj83> Adam24, you can kill from "top" with the PID or simply kill PID
[23:12] <x404x> !diablo
[23:12] <presumida> kill -9 app
[23:12] <presumida> sry killall -9 app
[23:12] <tj83> hey all, I need a little guidance, I am getting grub error 22 after an install, I have installed ubuntu on many machines but this one has me stuck, 22= no such partition and well, I mount the drive from the live cd, I use vol_id to verify the UUID in menu.lst and fstab are correct. what else to do?
[23:13] <terrestre> can you recommend me a dekstop search app?
[23:13] <Dantonic> seidos, ok I checked should I give it a shot? reboot first?
[23:13] <seidos> terrestre, I use find in terminal fairly frequently
[23:13] <presumida> find, what else? xd
[23:13] <sergiu_ch_> anyone know how to contact adobe to fix some bugs for adobe flash for linux?
[23:13] <sergiu_ch_> ;d
[23:13] <seidos> Dantonic, I don't know if rebooting is necessary
[23:14] <Dantonic> ok let's try wish me luck :)
[23:14] <Dantonic> BRB
[23:14] <johannes_> fccf this answers question 3 yet I am very interested in practical experiences using diskless booting, especially at question 1 and 2, and if you can make the image on the server read only without issues
[23:14] <seidos> Dantonic, good luck
[23:14] <terrestre> seidos, I use "locate" for that, but I need to find a word inside a document
[23:14] <Solar_Flare> terrestre grep?
[23:14] <erUSUL> terrestre: ubuntu comes eith tracker by default. beagle is also aviable for install
[23:14] <Adam24> so what would the name be for the package installer?
[23:14] <seidos> grep, that's a good idea.
[23:15] <tj83> Adam24, apt, aptitude
[23:15] <terrestre> I dont know what document is
[23:15] <erUSUL> terrestre: Aplications>accessoies>tracker
[23:15] <Adam24> both failed.
[23:15] <seidos> terrestre locate seems faster than find, I need to practice it, thank you
[23:16] <tj83> Adam24, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:16] <erUSUL> seidos: locat uses a database that is updated once a day... find actually traverses the filesystem on every run
[23:16] <Solar_Flare> after installing the genesys backend for sane, my scanner vanished -.- damn
[23:16] <Adam24> ERROR: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[23:16] <Adam24> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[23:17] <seidos> erUSUL, is find more precise?
[23:17] <terrestre> tracker is no longer install by default, that's why I ask is beagle better?
[23:17] <Solar_Flare> Adam24: need to be root?
[23:17] <tj83> Adam24, make sure no other apt, aptitude or synaptic processes are funning
[23:17] <seidos> hmmm, maybe I'm not using locate properly
[23:17] <tj83> running*
[23:17] <erUSUL> seidos: no; but locate can miss recently created files. so it is wise to do « sudo updatedb » before searchs if you are looking for a recent file
[23:18] <terrestre> seidos, just type "locate something"
[23:18] <seidos> erUSUL, thank you
[23:18] <fccf> johannes_: the idea of having a diskless machine gives you the opportunity to have all data save to a server ... having it be a read-only system negates the need for a server... boot live image from usb .... yes faster loading times with GigE than 100baseT ... ... more ram makes it faster, also makes it able to do more, say having 100 word docs open ... would slow down a 512meg ram diskless client ... but wouldn't slowdown a 4 gig machine
[23:18] <seidos> terrestre, I already did.  I'm playing with both.
[23:18] <tj83> hey all, I need a little guidance, I am getting grub error 22 after an install, I have installed ubuntu on many machines but this one has me stuck, 22= no such partition and well, I mount the drive from the live cd, I use vol_id to verify the UUID in menu.lst and fstab are correct. what else to do?
[23:18] <seidos> locate demarest found hits, sudo find / -name demarest found nothing
[23:18] <terrestre> seidos, locate and grep work pretty good together
[23:18] <anthony> hey whats the name of the website where i can post my screenshot
[23:19] <seidos> ah, need to use * with find
[23:19] <anthony> so i can get some help  with something
[23:19] <seidos> terrestre, thank you
[23:19] <fccf> !paste
[23:19] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> anthony: imageshack or photobucket
[23:19] <tj83> !ask > anthony
[23:19] <terrestre> so what do you guys think, tracker or beagle?
[23:19] <kenthree> Hello, I set up pptpd, I can connect to the VPN with my windows clients but there's no internet connectivity (it does resolve hostnames however) any idea?
[23:19] <fccf> TD: ubottu hasn't been updated in a while
[23:19] <johannes_> fccf my idea is a client loading an image from the server and then people can change things and do whatever they want, but the next time you reboot it is the same as befor, because the image is unchanged on the server, is that possible using lstp?
[23:20] <tj83> kenthree, i have a nice how to....
[23:20] <tj83> one moment
[23:20] <Guest94523> what file are screen shots ??
[23:20] <Guest94523> in
[23:21] <tj83> kenthree, http://www.pastebin.ca/1561572
[23:21] <tj83> kenthree, follow to a T and all should be well, many have used my how-to
[23:21] <kenthree> thanks
[23:21] <Guest94523> where can i find my print screen (screenshots)
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Guest94523: default is desktop, you can drag the image where you want it
[23:22] <ace135> I'm trying to set another resolution to boot the bash shell in, but what codes are valid? Im trying vga=336 to load a 1280x1024, but it wont work after I change it and reboot. It complains over an invalid code
[23:22] <Guest94523> oh... well what button takes the screenshot
[23:23] <Guest94523> prnt scrn isnt workign
[23:23] <fccf> johannes_: what you are looking for is more of a Kiosk .... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/KioskProjects
[23:23] <johannes_> fccf Ill have a look at it
[23:23] <johannes_> thx
[23:23] <fccf> np
[23:24] <Guest94523> why is prt scr not taking screenies
[23:24] <fccf> Guest94523: laptop??
[23:24] <Guest94523> negative
[23:25] <andy__> first time to use this...
[23:25] <Guest94523> xubuntu
[23:25] <greek_linuxer> i still remember getting my first ubuntu cd, the 5.04 version,so many memories
[23:25] <erUSUL> !hi | andy__
[23:25] <fccf> Guest94523: can't help you there ... better answered in #xubuntu
[23:25] <trism> Guest94523: you could install a separate program such as the unfortunately named scrot to take screenshots
[23:25] <Dantonic> seidos, nothing :(
[23:25] <Dantonic> seidos,  oh well
[23:26] <greek_linuxer> Guest94523: use gimp
[23:26] <zopiac> this mouse isn't working for some reason, can someone help?
[23:27] <greek_linuxer> zopiac: buy a new one
[23:27] <zopiac> its new
[23:27] <seidos> is it considered wrong to make a bug report on behalf of another user?
[23:27] <Guest94523> apt-get install gimp ?
[23:27] <seidos> maybe I should ask in ubuntu-offtopic
[23:27] <zopiac> it was just working, i dont smell the USB port/plug burning. . . i unplug and plug back in and its not doing squat
[23:28] <tj83> hey all, I need a little guidance, I am getting grub error 22 after an install, I have installed ubuntu on many machines but this one has me stuck, 22= no such partition and well, I mount the drive from the live cd, I use vol_id to verify the UUID in menu.lst and fstab are correct. what else to do?
[23:28] <greek_linuxer> Guest94523: yes
[23:28] <King2> Hi all, I need help adjusting the brightness of my laptop(dv3), It's just too much almost 140%
[23:28] <fccf> seidos: no, provided you can re-create the bug own your own... and post error logs, dbug symbols, and whatever else is needed to diagnose the bug
[23:28] <Guest94523> permission denied
[23:28] <Dantonic> hey seidos  under System Administration  Network Tools, that Network device option... it has Loopback, or Eth0 etc... what is that exactly should it be on loopback which it is currently? or eth0?  Is it a setting or is it just there to show info about the devices?
[23:28] <trism> Guest94523: you need to sudo to install apps with apt-get
[23:29] <seidos> Dantonic, have you made a bug report in launch pad?
[23:29] <tj83> hey all, I need a little guidance, I am getting grub error 22 after an install, I have installed ubuntu on many machines but this one has me stuck, 22= no such partition and well, I mount the drive from the live cd, I use vol_id to verify the UUID in menu.lst and fstab are correct. I have repaired grub also with the grub, root, setup method , reports success... what else to do? what else to do?
[23:29] <seidos> Dantonic, I think it should be on eth0
[23:29] <seidos> Dantonic, let me see how my laptop is set.  I haven't had problems with eth0, but I rarely use it
[23:30] <fccf> tj83: sata drive?
[23:30] <Guest94523> what is the name for ur desktop
[23:30] <Guest94523> so ic an set that
[23:30] <King2> Hi all, I need help adjusting the brightness of my laptop(dv3), It's just too much almost 140%
[23:30] <tj83> fccf, no its IDE, however, I do have another hdd installed that is a sata but i have left it completely unallocated.
[23:30] <seidos> Dantonic, mine is set at loopback interface (lo), it's just to look at its settings.
[23:31] <Dantonic> I see
[23:31] <Dantonic> yeah seidos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/425663
[23:31] <Dantonic> did that a few days ago
[23:31] <fccf> tj83: try adding all-ide-generic to the grub bootline before it says quiet splash
[23:31] <trism> tj83: you could try going into the grub console when you load up grub and either doing a find for boot/grub/menu.lst or trying tab completion on root to see if you can find the partition that way
[23:31] <Dantonic> but I probably didnt include much useful informationjust because I don't know how or what to include seidos
[23:31] <tj83> trism, already done that ty tho
[23:31] <sam_sam> when i finger my sys it shows me two users with my login name but i logged in only once. Is it normal ??
[23:32] <tj83> fccf i will try that ty
[23:33] <veilig> I have php installed but need it configured w/ --enable-debug.  how do I do that?
[23:33] <sam_sam> when i finger my sys it shows me two users with my login name but i logged in only once. Is it normal ??
[23:33] <fccf> !repeat | sam_sam
[23:33] <Guest94523> how do i launch scrot
[23:33] <Guest94523> cant find it
[23:33] <trism> Guest94523: just type scrot
[23:33] <tj83> sam_sam, yes its normal
[23:33] <Dantonic> lol "when i finger my sys" is it just me or does that just sound nasty?
[23:33] <trism> Guest94523: in the terminal, although you'll probably want some command line arguments
[23:33] <sam_sam> ok TY all
[23:33] <bastid_raZor> sam_sam: your GUI is one user and a terminal is another.. if you have several terminals open then you'll have several you's logged in
[23:33] <Guest94523> i type it and get a beep
[23:34] <seidos> Dantonic, idea!  trying pinging your loopback address.
[23:34] <fccf> Dandonic: Just don't finger your sis
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Dantonic: haha
[23:34] <seidos> oops *try
[23:34] <mgv1> hello, i've two problems with f spot, first i want to ask where the database is stored and how to backup and restore. and secendly the program terminate after sending photos as email
[23:34] <Dantonic> haha
[23:34] <jarjar> seidos: you're in a terminal right?
[23:34] <tj83> fccf, well, that didnt do either... also note that i never actually get a grub menu, so i did add the kernel option to the menu.lst from mounting off live cd... no dice
[23:34] <trism> Guest94523: it beeps when it takes the screenshot, it probably saves into the current working directory by default
[23:34] <Dantonic> seidos, ping it after the suspend?
[23:34] <seidos> jarjar, I'm using gnome
[23:35] <octe> is it possible to unmount the cdrom while running from the livecd?
[23:35] <sam_sam> no
[23:35] <seidos> Dantonic, ping it before and after :)
[23:35] <fccf> octe: only if you load the entire os to ram ... toram at startup line
[23:35] <jarjar> seidos: oops, i think i got mixed up, sorry
[23:35] <Dantonic> seidos, so under network tools and the "Ping" tab  I enter what address to ping?
[23:35] <DasEi> octe: no
[23:36] <seidos> jarjar, why do you ask?  I have a gnome-terminal open
[23:36] <tj83> fccf, anymore suggestions?
[23:36] <seidos> Dantonic, 127.0.0.1
[23:36] <octe> DasEi: fccf is wrong?
[23:36] <Dantonic> seidos, just what it shows me under "Devices
[23:36] <Dantonic> ok
[23:36] <seidos> Dantonic, I think localhost will work
[23:36] <Dantonic> seidos, ok pinged and received 5 packets
[23:36] <seidos> Dantonic, er that is, ping localhost
[23:37] <jarjar> seidos: i was looking at someone else's problem, and typed in your name instead
[23:37] <seidos> Dantonic, weird
[23:37] <seidos> jarjar, ah
[23:37] <tj83> fccf, i even tried cable select / master as the MB detects fine either way.
[23:37] <DasEi> octe: option toram as mentioned, but does your ram carry this ?!
[23:37] <greek_linuxer> is ubuntu better than windows 7?
[23:37] <fccf> octe: I am right http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-toram-how-to-make-ubuntu-boot-to-ram/
[23:38] <seidos> Dantonic, are you using dhcp?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> greek_linuxer: its an opinion so there is no concrete answer
[23:38] <jarjar> greek_linuxer: in some ways yes, in some ways no
[23:38] <seidos> Dantonic, I really should look at your /etc/networking/interfaces file
[23:38] <octe> DasEi: 4gb, is that enough?
[23:38] <fccf> tj83: try unplugging the sata drive ... my only other thought would be to install to the sata drive ...
[23:38] <seidos> arg
[23:38] <mgv1> hello, i've two problems with f spot, first i want to ask where the database is stored and how to backup and restore. and secendly the program terminate after sending photos as email
[23:38] <DasEi> greek_linuxer: is diesel over petrol > #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:38] <tj83> fccf, ok, i will do that, only the sata is a 5400rp and the IDE is a 7200rpm :(
[23:38] <octe> fccf: that's talking about a version over 2 years old..
[23:39] <Guest94523> baj
[23:39] <bastid_raZor>  B_+YT
[23:39] <seidos> /etc/network/interfaces
[23:39] <Guest94523> i need a screen capture key
[23:39] <trism> mgv1: the database is stored in .gnome2/f-spot
[23:39] <seidos> Guest94523, printscreen
[23:39] <Guest94523> im trying to take a screenshot of an option under applications, that i want to get rid of contents
[23:39] <Guest94523> im on xubuntu
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Guest94523: press print screen
[23:39] <seidos> Guest94523, you need a nick name
[23:39] <G-man> there
[23:39]  * tj83 bangs head on desk repeatedly.... fccf without the sata drive, it boot fine lol... but i need that sata drive for storage!
[23:40] <mgv1> trism: thanks
[23:40] <trism> Guest94523: scrot will work find for that if you map the printscreen key to the command, but I don't know how to do that in xubuntu
[23:40] <fccf> octe: regardless it is still in the system to do that
[23:40] <seidos> I used xubuntu for like 30 seconds
[23:40] <G-man> yeah, i don't know how to map it to print screen bro
[23:40] <tj83> fccf, i looked pretty throughly through the BIOS .... will do again.
[23:40] <G-man> i have scrot
[23:40] <G-man> and it is set up to put my screenies in capture folder
[23:41] <djbpython> how can I check if apache is installed as a daemon?
[23:41] <G-man> well i mean i would use ubuntu, but for whatever reason it wouldnt let me use my display drivers
[23:41] <G-man> in xubuntu... no problems
[23:41] <mgv1> trism: where does gnome2 is located?
[23:41] <Reefer> Can i install Windows from ubuntu. Say im installing full version of desktop ubuntu how would i switch back to XP
[23:41] <DasEi> octe : should fit, I haven't followed your whole question : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> !dualbot | Reefer
[23:42] <Reefer> Just pop in the disc?
[23:42] <Maverick_M4> Anyone available for some trouble shooting with wireless cards? I've got a peculiar situation as I can do packet injection and run aircrack-ng suite and kismet fine but I can't actually connect to a network.
[23:42] <seidos> G-man, what kind of video card do you have?
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> !dualboot | Reefer
[23:42] <Dantonic> seidos, hang on havent tried after suspend...
[23:42] <cms-aff1la> how would I install, moblin from a ubuntu os
[23:42] <Reefer> i dont want a dual boot
[23:42] <Dantonic> seidos, was afk... ok gonna try pinging after suspend
[23:42] <Dantonic> brb
[23:42] <G-man> Geforce 9800GT
[23:42] <trism> mgv1: it is a hidden directory in your home folder
[23:42] <rsk> Reefer: you can install windows XP in Virtualbox
[23:42] <seidos> Dantonic, you're problem is more complicated than I thought it would be.
[23:42] <bastid_raZor> Reefer: virtualbox or vmware are your only other options
[23:43] <Reefer> my laptop was fucked it was running ubuntu. Would not let me install XP so im installing ubuntu to switch back to XP
[23:43] <Reefer> to get it to work
[23:43] <Dantonic> seidos, =/
[23:43] <seidos> Dantonic, I think maybe assigning a static ip might be something worth trying
[23:43] <G-man> okay okay, got it
[23:43] <G-man> took screenie
[23:43] <Dantonic> seidos, static ip... hmm
[23:43] <G-man> just need to find out how to get rid of all these things in the other tab here is url http://imagebin.org/63394
[23:43] <greek_linuxer> Reefer: you want only XP to be installed?
[23:43] <Dantonic> seidos, I am actually out of time... I need to leave for work in about 20 miniutes...
[23:43] <Reefer>  Yes
[23:44] <G-man> "other"
[23:44] <Reefer> But for some reason it wont let me install it
[23:44] <seidos> Dantonic, I'm just saying, had I known, I would've started with that
[23:44] <Reefer> Something is messed up
[23:44] <Reefer> hal.dll
[23:44] <Reefer>  bad virus
[23:44] <Reefer> so i was thinkin
[23:44] <FloodBot2> Reefer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <Dantonic> seidos, I will try again tomorrow... thank you for your help I hope I'll see you around.  no problem I'm open to any suggestions, and even if something doesnt fix it at least I learn something new...
[23:44] <Reefer> wipe it, install ubuntu then switch to XP
[23:44] <greek_linuxer> Reefer: maybe your install cd has not burnt properly
[23:44] <lowlycoder> anyone know of a cheap router (no need to be wireless) I can order online? I feel there should be ones for < $20.00
[23:44] <seidos> Dantonic, cool.  take care.
[23:44] <lowlycoder> anyone know of a cheap router (no need to be wireless) I can order online? I feel there should be ones for < $20.00 (all I really want is NAT)
[23:45] <Reefer>  I made them a bootable image
[23:45] <G-man> Can anybody walk me thru getting rid of these things in the "other" tab http://imagebin.org/63394
[23:45] <Reefer>  any suggestions?
[23:46] <sam_sam> interesting answers for windows || linux ..well can someone tell me in which things windows is better ??
[23:46] <xmnt_> sam_sam, getting viruses
[23:46] <Maverick_M4> anyone available for some trouble shooting with wireless drivers?
[23:46] <rsk> sam_sam: windows is good at defragmenting the hard-drives
[23:46] <Maverick_M4> you don't need to defrag with ext3
[23:46] <sam_sam> xmnt: in that windows is worst
[23:46] <fccf> G-man: you are asking in the wrong place .. this is ubuntu - not xubuntu ... Google Search xubuntu menu
[23:46] <xmnt_> sam_sam, it's really good if you don't need to work
[23:46] <Maverick_M4> or so I thought.
[23:47] <kermit> sam_sam: windows is good at running software written for windows
[23:47] <cms-aff1la> any help installing a new os over ubuntu jaunty
[23:47] <lstarnes> cms-aff1la: which OS?
[23:47] <greek_linuxer> sam_sam:windows have better hardware support
[23:47] <icarus> any time I try to enable extra normal or custom under appearance preferences i get a error message telling me that desktop effects can not be enabled.what am I doing wrong?
[23:47] <Gnea> G-man: check the #xubuntu channel
[23:47] <lstarnes> icarus: you need to have the right drivers
[23:47] <sam_sam> kermit: why would someone write software for an OS which does not give the code and besides much insecure ?
[23:48] <seidos> sam_sam, money
[23:48] <cms-aff1la> greek_linuxer: I have the img of moblin netbook beta refresh 20090818-001 but I can't figure how to install from ubuntu as I want to get moblin then use vm for ubu
[23:48] <xmnt_> sam_sam, because people will buy it
[23:48] <rsk> sam_sam: probably because of the bigger userbase
[23:48] <lstarnes> sam_sam: because that OS might have a large user share
[23:48] <icarus> lstarnes, it worked earlyer today
[23:48] <rsk> yes people are use to pirate or buy software in windows
[23:48] <sam_sam> yeah only reason is busimess i guessed
[23:48] <Maverick_M4> hmm, anyone up for some wireless trouble shooting?
[23:48] <G-man> i think im going to go back to ubuntu
[23:48] <kermit> greek_linuxer: no, windows doesnt support very common hardware, new computers just install drivers for you, thats not window's doing
[23:49] <kermit> greek_linuxer: so you can say.. windows is better at coming already set up on more new computers
[23:49] <seidos> G-man, when I used xubuntu 2d performance wasn't that great for me
[23:49] <seidos> G-man, I have an integrated intel graphics g960/965
[23:49] <PenStand> hi guys, I have a driver issue with my laptop. I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 and the graphics look laggy. I even couldn't run Extra Visual Effects. I got this from lspci: Intel Corporation mobile GM965-GL960 Integrated Graphics controller ( REV 03 )
[23:49] <G-man> hehe.... yeah, i wanna play a 2d game as well
[23:50] <greek_linuxer> cms-aff1la: reboot your netbook,insert moblin cd ,follow the on screen instructions
[23:50] <bastid_raZor> !puregnome | G-man ..if this is what you want.
[23:50] <Maverick_M4> Steidos: try the nv driver, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to nv
[23:50] <cms-aff1la> greek_linuxer: im trying to install from the os via a iso mount
[23:50] <cms-aff1la> greek_linuxer: hence netbook =p
[23:50] <G-man> and that will keep my video card drivers right?
[23:50] <bastid_raZor> G-man: uh, that isn't for xfce.. let me get the link for you.. if you want to get rid of xfce.
[23:50] <seidos> Maverick_M4, nv driver for intel graphics?
[23:50] <sam_sam> penstand: for me my ubuntu itself searched for the driver .
[23:50] <Maverick_M4> Steidos: if you want the nvidia driver, have fun. i have alot of propblems with it too.
[23:50] <Maverick_M4> yea
[23:50] <greek_linuxer> cms-aff1la: are you kidding me?
[23:50] <icarus> hello?
[23:51] <Maverick_M4> seidos: where it says driver = "nvidia" or something make it driver = "nv"
[23:51] <Gnea> PenStand: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[23:51] <Maverick_M4> i've done that alot as nvidia craches X for me.
[23:51] <Maverick_M4> crashes X*
[23:51] <seidos> Maverick_M4, I have an intel graphics card, not nvidia
[23:51] <bastid_raZor> G-man: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[23:51] <Maverick_M4> oh, fail
[23:51] <Maverick_M4> sorry :(
[23:51] <Gnea> !intel
[23:51] <seidos> nah, it's cool, I was going to try it to see what would happen :)
[23:51] <cms-aff1la> greek_linuxer: no netbook no cd drive only usbflash and externals but ubuntu won't read the external since installed
[23:51] <PenStand> Gnea: then what?
[23:52] <Maverick_M4> !wireless
[23:52] <Gnea> PenStand: select the nvidia driver and install it
[23:52] <G-man> k thx
[23:52] <PenStand> Gnea: it's Intel
[23:52] <PenStand> Gnea: there's nothing in Hardware Driver list about VGA. Only about the wireless
[23:52] <Pulga> I have an IPOD, what I can do to sync with my ubuntu 9.04??
[23:52] <G-man> will i need to re-install wine and .Net
[23:52] <G-man> or will it keep all of that
[23:52] <Gnea> PenStand: brainfart. yeah, check that link to intel that ubottu just put up. sorry about that
[23:52] <seidos> PenStand, I have intel graphics, and jaunty.  I got desktop effects to work, but after awhile it will crash.  have to wait for a driver update, probably in karmic
[23:53] <seidos> Pulga, rhythmbox can work to sync, but not DMA files
[23:53] <Gnea> seidos, PenStand: there's a chance it will (maybe it already is?) available for jaunty via ppa
[23:54] <seidos> Gnea, I added a repository for intel drivers, that helped get desktop effects working (but it still crashes when I enable them).
[23:54] <PenStand> Gnea: what' ppa?
[23:54] <seidos> Gnea, maybe it's ppa, let me check
[23:54] <Gnea> !ppa
[23:54] <jarjar> penstand: i suggest ubuntu 8.04 if nothing else works, i have heard that 9.04 does not work well with intel graphics cards or something like that, i have an intel integrated graphics chip, and 8.04 works fairly well(although the resolution will not go above 1024x768 properly)
[23:55] <Gnea> PenStand: it's basically a repository with newer software that isn't available in the regular repositories - it requires a bit of configuration to get working, usually the webpage with have the apt-key required to make it work
[23:55] <G-man> Any Ultima Online players in the house?
[23:55] <mdkess> What is the strength of a 64 bit CPU over a 32 bit one, other than just being able to more easily address more RAM?
[23:56] <xTheGoat121x> I seem to be stuck in low-graphics mode and I have no idea how to get out of it
[23:56] <seidos> Gnea, thanks, now I know what I did was PPA
[23:56] <Gnea> seidos: ah okay. did you file a bug report for the crash?
[23:56] <seidos> PenStand, I added http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty
[23:56] <seidos> PenStand, and another one
[23:56] <seidos> Gnea, no
[23:56] <Gnea> seidos: you should, it'll help them get it fixed sooner
[23:57] <seidos> Gnea, let me see what they have already on launchpad
[23:57] <sam_sam> seidos: have u contributed in ubuntu code ??
[23:57] <Gnea> seidos: good deal
[23:57] <cms-aff1la> Gnea: Hello again =p, could you possibly spare some advice on install moblin over a ubuntu on netbook?
[23:57] <G-man> Any Ultima Online players in the house?
[23:57] <twint> good night
[23:58] <seidos> good knight
[23:58] <seidos> sam_sam, I wish.
[23:58] <Maverick_M4> My wireless card is not connecting to wireless networks (but lets me deauth clients via aireplay-ng and moniter traffic), any suggestions? said network is open
[23:58] <Taulus> Hi everyone.
[23:59] <sam_sam> i too just wish. but cant even write small codes haha
[23:59] <Turbolinux> Can you recommend a web editor?
[23:59] <xover> guys, nomachine, anyone here used it?
[23:59] <xover> I cannot get it to work as VNC does
[23:59] <Taulus> Anyone ever had to install a Wacom tablet driver?