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rcscompI am going to use the method on pendrivelinux.com to create a persitent xubuntu install on a usb drive00:54
rcscompI am wondering if it is possible to get or make an ISO that would have updated packages, so that I could update the USB drive.00:55
xyloxis it possible to make the panel transparent?00:55
anthonyhey01:43
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Guest99266I just installed xubuntu 8.10, and i was wondering how exactly do i get my 2nd monitor to display properly?01:44
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Sonjais this disc free? it seems to cost $3 but also says it's free: http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/87204:39
xyloxyou can download the iso image and burn it to a cd04:41
Sonjai guess by free they mean $304:42
Sonjait's confusing04:42
maduserjust download the iso and burn it and not worry about shipping04:43
maduseryou can get free disks shipped to you but they take over a month04:43
Sonjaa friend of mine was asking04:43
Sonjamaybe i can just burn one for him04:44
Sonjaand ship it04:44
Sonjamaduser do you have the url for that?04:44
maduserfor what?04:44
maduserI haven't had disks shipped for 3 years now04:44
maduserit may have changed04:44
Sonjaoh you said there was a service that mails free discs that take a month04:45
xyloxi suppose they're charging for the cd and the mail service, not the content which is free04:45
Sonjayeah04:45
Sonjaor charging for shipping only04:45
Sonjamy friend is on dialup in some corner of brazil04:47
Sonjai'll just do it myself and mail him it04:47
Sonjathanks for your help!04:47
Techiedoes anyone know how to get the drivers for a Marvell 8838 chipset wireless card?05:07
LyTeFaSThey guys, I've been using Xubuntu for a while now, and I've put off asking this question, but it really rubs me the wrong way: is there somewhere to change the preferred application for  "Movie Player"?05:21
mikubuntutrying to help my friend get the wireless hookd up on new buntu install, having trouble, anybody willing to help me troubleshoot06:06
mikubuntufollowd instructions in documentation but still not gettg it06:07
Techieheya mikubuntu06:13
Techieany info about the card or chipset?06:13
mikubuntuhey techie06:13
mikubuntushe's just moving the computer over by the router now to hook it up wired so that i can get her into the channel06:14
Techiecool06:14
mikubuntui'm in fla shes in cali, where u?06:15
Techieim not sure if i will actually be of any help as its not my area of expertise06:15
mikubuntu:P06:15
Techienew zealand06:15
mikubuntuomg, we've split the difference on the globe then06:15
mikubuntui don't know why settg the wireless is always such a pain for me, every time i have to get help; by now i should be helpg people ... arrrggghhh06:16
mikubuntuif you'll be around i'll let you know when i have her online, and if not no prob ... sry i not ready06:17
Techielol, your probably one better than me on this... i cant even track down any drivers for my PCI wireless card06:17
mikubuntuwhy is evrything a mission, huh06:18
mikubuntuhahaha06:18
Techieits not a mission, its a long journey with no scenery06:18
mikubuntuyep06:18
mikubuntuwhat a storm is brewg up outside06:19
Techiebtw i cant even get ndiswrapper to work properly06:19
mikubuntubtw, i don't even know what ndiswrappr is, tho i have heard of ppl wrestling with it here06:21
Techiendiswrapper = utility that allows you to load windows wireless card drivers in linux06:21
Techiehrmm, lets try something06:21
Techie!ndiswrapper06:21
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:21
Techiewow06:21
mikubuntuwow06:22
Techiesomebody spent alot of time making ubottu's entries06:22
mikubuntuhaha .. i thought only ops could do that06:22
Techienah, everyone can06:22
Techiethanks ubottu06:22
Techie!debian06:22
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!06:22
Techiemwah ha ha06:23
Techiehehe, you know somethings not gonna be easy when you perform a single google search and end up with more than 7 new tabs06:26
mikubuntuuh huh... why do u need that, linux doesn't support your particular card?06:28
Techienope06:28
Techieno drivers for the card as far as i can see06:29
Techieand no drivers for the chipset either06:29
Techieand ndiswrapper wont install properly as xubuntu doesnt come with the kernel source so im unable to recompile the kernel with it06:29
Techieand on top of that, the box the card is in cant access the internet06:30
Techiebrb, gonna delve into #ubuntu06:35
mikubuntuomg, it all sounds way complicated .. i wish i could help, way over my head, good luck06:35
owen1_any suggestions for simple GUI backup tool?07:38
mikubuntuTechie, see u 2mrw maybe, she gave up :(07:54
mikubuntuhahaha07:54
Techieman, i love it in this channel09:02
Techietheres never too many people talking and i can often help people09:03
Techieand chances are nobody will bother to read that message09:03
Sysitoo messy channel isn't good09:04
Sysinot too many helpers, people are even rady to hear my english :)09:05
Techiehehe, i take it english isnt your first language?09:07
Sysiit isn't09:07
Techiewhats your first?09:07
Sysifinnish09:07
Techieaah thats cool09:07
Techiei myself have never been able to speak another language anywhere near fluently09:08
Techiewell, without the help of googles language tools09:08
_Pete_I can listen many languages fluently09:08
Techieoh, hello pete09:08
_Pete_howdy09:09
Techieis there anyone else currently at their computers that are lurking in the shadows?09:09
Techieanyway, lets share a bit about ourselves09:11
Techieobviously we all use or have knowledge of xubuntu09:11
Techiebut other than that we dont know much about each other09:11
Techieso yeah, my real name is matt but my mates call me techie =p09:12
Techieim from new zealand which if you dont know where that is... look south east of australia09:13
_Pete_all that could be knonw if you just set your ircname correclty :)09:13
Techiehehe09:13
SysiI think i know where zealand is but i'm really surprised if you know where finland is09:14
Techiei was introduced into linux first by one mate who ran fedora core at the time, and later moved towards ubuntu for its ease of use (my FC mate is now running ubuntu aswell)09:14
Techiehowever my linux knowledge was enhanced greately when my pc folded about just under a year ago and i was only able to boot linux for about 2 months09:15
Techieso yeah, thats a bit about me and who i am09:15
Techieanyone else care to share anything?09:16
_Pete_sometimes that happens09:16
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Sysii think i first read about 'buntu in some magazine09:18
Sysithen there was lot about it in internet09:20
_Pete_I somehow found it when 5.04 was new and started using it, before that was using fedora/win combo. but when noticed that it suits perfectly my needs dumped windows alltogether and since have only used buntu09:20
Techiecool09:20
Techiehrmm, one thing im curios about is... what is it like to life in finland? are the people friendly is the weather nice09:21
Sysisame with me, but i started with hardy09:21
Techiecurious*09:21
ursusHello! I have charset problems on Xubuntu 9.04. I save my files in utf format, but if I upload them to the internet, it isn't in utf. OR: If I grab my audio cd, and create the mp3 file names in utf, they will have strange characters. How can I fix this problem?09:22
Techieokay, lets break convo... someone needs help09:23
Sysidiscussion may go on on -offtopic09:23
_Pete_ursus: what makes you think after upload they are not anymore utf8 ?09:24
_Pete_.. and are you sure they realy are utf8 saved?09:24
ursusI heard that there was some charset bug in xubuntu 8.10, and then I changed something (a user guided me), but can't remember what did I change. And I couldn't find with google such a bug.09:25
ursusThey have strange characters, but if I set firefox to read them as utf-8, it doesn't change.09:25
ursus_Pete_, yes, I am.09:25
_Pete_ursus: do you use ftp to transfer?09:25
Techiemaybe whatever your viewing the files with doesnt support utf-8?09:25
ursusBut: if I open this files on xp (virtualbox), they shows strange characters as well. But if I save my files there (also in utf-8), there is no problem with them.09:26
ursus_Pete_, yes, I do09:27
ursusI thought that it doesn't save really in utf-8, just it calls it utf-8.09:27
ursusIt doesn't matter, what kind of program use I: gedit, mousepad, anything.09:27
_Pete_ursus: I think ftp does some conversation if transfer is done in ascii mode09:27
_Pete_so make sure it uses bin mode09:27
_Pete_better yet use sftp09:28
ursus_Pete_, I am pretty sure, that it doesn't. Because if I don't upload them, just simply open the local file with windows, it shows the same strange chars, like I see when I upload them.09:28
_Pete_but they work correctly before transfer?09:29
_Pete_check that they are identical after upload, if not something wrong in transfer09:29
Techie_Pete_, in one of the ftpd's i use it actually refers ascii mode to be enabling file mangling09:29
_Pete_havent used ftp in ages myself09:30
ursus_Pete_, it works correctly, before transfer, after transfer, always. But only on my computer, on Xubuntu. But no elsewhere.09:30
ursusIf upload them, and then download them, it works fine. But only locally.09:31
Techieursus, from what i can think of its most likely your file manager that isnt reading the utf-8 files correctly09:31
_Pete_ursus: and the tools on other end supports utf8 correctly ?09:31
ursusTechie, the file manager reads it correctly, because I see them correctly on my computer.09:32
ursus_Pete_, sorry, I don't understand09:32
Techieursus, what pete is trying to say is, does the computer at the other end understand utf-8?09:34
ursusHow do you mean other end?09:34
Techieursus, the ftp server09:36
Techieursus, or wherever you upload or transfer the files to09:36
ursusSorry. It does.09:36
ursusSo: I save my text/html/php files in utf-8. On my computer on Xubuntu it works fine. But on other OS, or on other computer it doesn't.09:38
ursusIf I check the charset, for example on XP, I see that, it is really in utf-8.09:38
Techieis there any particular reason for using utf-8?09:38
ursusBut the special characters which are used in my country, doesn't appear correctly. But if I fix them with the editor on xp, it is correct.09:40
ursusBut I wouldn't like to use xp for this reason.09:40
ursusTechie, yes. It works fine everywhere. I guess only my Xubuntu makes something wrong, because on other OS or on other computer it works really fine.09:41
ursusIs there a system file, where I can check or modify the default charset of my OS?09:42
Techieursus, im gonna do some slow research on this, i have a torrent going09:42
_Pete_ursus: what tool do you use on xubuntu to create utf8 file?09:43
ursusgedit or mousepad09:44
_Pete_and are absolutelu sure they save in correct unicode form (there are many) ?09:46
ursusI click on File -> Save as... I choose there "Currently locale (UTF8)"09:48
ursusIs there difference between utf8 and utf-8?09:49
_Pete_no09:51
_Pete_can you send example of those file?09:51
_Pete_or if one is online give url09:51
ursus_Pete_, ok, a moment (If you can wait)09:53
_Pete_yeah just about to go lunch09:53
_Pete_->09:54
ursusOK, I guess I solved the problem temporally10:07
Techieima brb after a restart, then im gonna watch a movie, say my name if you need me10:07
ursusIt seems now (I'm not sure 100%) that a program on XP doesn't recognized utf-8 correctly.10:08
ursusThank you for your help!!10:08
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miguelonnnnhi please, 1 question: in networkmanager there are many options for introducing wifi passwds. Two of them are passphrase and bit key. I thought passphrase was the only coded into a hard password, but bit key also gets coded( for example 12345 goes to 333758392) so what's the difference between bit-key and passphrase?11:13
jose__Has anyone got any idea on how to disable the alt+right click shortcut? I can't seem to find the option anywhere.14:38
TheSheepjose__: what does it do?14:39
jose__When a window is active it will change the cursor to a resizer of sorts14:39
TheSheepah, it's in window manager tweaks14:39
jose__so rather than select the edge of the screen to resize you jsut need to hold down alt and right click14:40
TheSheep"key used to grab an move windows'14:40
TheSheepyou can change it to super14:40
jose__Where is the option?14:40
TheSheepthird tab of wm tweaks14:40
jose__omg, I'm a dunce14:41
jose__I overlooked that about 5 times14:41
TheSheepthat's normal14:41
jose__I bet your fleece is made of gold.14:41
TheSheepno, it's much warmer14:42
TheSheepplutonium ;)14:42
jose__Anyway thankyou for your help.14:42
jose__May your days be both profitable and erotic.14:42
TheSheepbut not at the same time14:43
jose__and may a thousand virgins throw themselves upon you.14:43
TheSheepcheers14:43
bmanAnyone know where the browser.xul is located for firefox?14:45
TheSheepbman: try 'locate browser.xul' in terminal14:49
bmanThanks, I was trying 'find' which wasnt working for me14:50
frenzy42I'm having serious wireless problems on a msi wind running the latested xubuntu14:52
mattfletcherhello, my friend is running ubuntu and finding it a bit slow. i've suggested he try xubuntu-desktop, but not sure how much disk space it will take. he only has about 700 megs free15:20
cody-somervilleyea15:23
cody-somervillethats not really enough15:23
cody-somervilleyou'd be cutting it awfully close15:23
mattfletcherjust run the disk analyser and it seems to be old kernels that are using a lot of space. what's the best way to remove those?15:28
_Pete_mattfletcher: apt-get15:36
mattfletcherthanks pete, found a list of old ones on "tombuntu" via google15:37
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vraajust FYI - that IRCResourcePage doesn't really work15:58
hermitcrabredHello19:19
hermitcrabredHello19:29
Sysihey19:29
hermitcrabred...how is everything?19:29
hermitcrabred...by the way, is broadband fast at all?19:30
Sysidepends19:31
Sysiit wasn't at school when packet loss on ping was over 50%19:31
hermitcrabred...I guess is about how the signal is...?19:32
Sysioperator had some problems, packets went long way19:32
hermitcrabredwow19:33
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hermitcrabred..Sysi19:51
Sysi?19:52
hermitcrabred...Sorry...My conection is so slow...19:52
hermitcrabredexpensive and slow19:52
Sysimobile?19:53
hermitcrabredyes!19:54
Sysicopper wire <319:54
hermitcrabredu got me there...let me go check19:55
hermitcrabred...be back...19:56
MhoramHi all, using Xubuntu for a few weeks now and like it lots....19:58
Mhoramone problem though: whenever my DVD burner hits an error, reading or writing, the OS seems to lose track of it, and I can't eject or get it to read anything else without rebooting.  It's IDE.  Any suggestion how to get the system to re-recognize the drive without a reboot?20:00
hermitcrabredHi everyone!21:00
hermitcrabred...I keep a very quick message about flash player...but I already installed the latest version, the videos do not play well, quirky...any tips? Please21:02
Sysihow powerful machine?21:02
hermitcrabredHey 2.0, pentium 4, 1 GB RAM21:07
hermitcrabredVideos don`t play too well for some reason21:07
Sysiflash is quite heavy for my 2.4ghz celeron21:08
Sysiproblems with graphics card may also cause that21:09
hermitcrabredI see...21:09
hermitcrabredThat makes sense21:09
hermitcrabred...by the way it is runnig faster with what u showed me...Thanks21:09
hermitcrabredI also not able to control sound volume, no an idea of why???21:11
Sysiwrong controller on xfce4-mixer maybe?21:12
hermitcrabred...That could be....is funny I`m seeing YouTube and the videos play good, too good, too fast, slow then fast...lol21:13
hermitcrabred....Hi bigzed !21:15
hermitcrabred...Does anyone knows the command for checking MD5???21:50
Mhoramhermitcrabred: md5sum21:52
hermitcrabredYes...21:52
hermitcrabredI am not good on that21:52

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