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=== Cimi is now known as Cimi_hates_git
Cimi_hates_gitkwwii, would you like the same feature for the scrollbar?00:13
Cimi_hates_gitbut there's an issue behind, I will break the old themes (they will work, but the scrollbars will be colored with bg[ACTIVE] which is usually too dark, so the themes should adjust that value)00:14
kwwiiCimi_hates_git: kinda late here, ask me that tomorrow :)00:25
kwwiibefore I say something stupid00:25
kwwiigoing to sleep now00:25
kwwiifinally00:25
Cimi_hates_gitehe, studying here00:26
mrmcq2uHi01:33
mrmcq2uis their going to be any more artwork making it into karmic before release?01:34
mrmcq2uanyone awake tonight?01:55
dashuaCimi_hates_git, Can I get gradients on the trough or just a sold color on bg[ACTIVE] ?03:28
dashuabg[ACTIVE] is cool03:28
Cimi_hates_gitdashua, just solid color atm03:39
Cimi_hates_gitmaybe I will add a gradient styling option for the scrollbar's trough, but I would like a mockup that works with different styles...03:40
dashuaAh ok03:40
Cimi_hates_gitbg[ACTIVE] is the right color, gtk+ uses it, but iirc neither murrine nor clearlooks are using it03:40
dashuaCan you steal the code back from nodoka that was forked from your code? =/03:41
Cimi_hates_gitof course, but the problem is not how to code :)03:42
dashuaStill doesn't look right in nodoka, off set or something, but there are gradients03:42
Cimi_hates_gitthe problem is *which looks better*03:42
dashuaNodoka's MODERN look has some good options but they all don't look correct03:42
dashuaI'm testing out the bg[ACTIVE] for progressbar and scale and it looks good03:43
Cimi_hates_gitI will also add a styling option for the border and the shadow, to emulate aurora and nodoka03:44
Cimi_hates_gitof course it's meant to works with every style03:44
dashuaNice03:44
Cimi_hates_git*to work03:44
Cimi_hates_gitbut that will happen in october :)03:45
dashuaNice to see a revision pushed, it's been some time :)03:45
Cimi_hates_gitgoing to bed now, I've studyed 10 continuos hours :)03:45
dashuaNite man03:45
Cimi_hates_gitthanks (i don't know your timezone, here is 4:45 am)03:46
mac_vkwwii: i'v got an idea... for the empathy status' , making one now , will show it in a bit :)09:36
kwwiimac_v: http://sinecera.de/latest.png09:51
mac_vkwwii: i was thinking more in the likes of > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/The_Office_US_title.jpg09:52
mac_vthe one on the right09:52
mac_v;D09:53
kwwiiahh, good idea but it is only 16x16px10:04
mac_vhehe , i'm trying to make one ;) , lets see if it possible10:10
SiDikwwii: do you know anything yet about xsplash theming ?11:01
SiDiIs there a documentation or beginning of documentation about it ?11:01
mac_vkwwii: http://imagebin.ca/view/WcNxIpr.html11:22
mac_vhow does that look ?11:22
mac_vi thought of adding a briefcase, But didnt trun good :(11:23
SiDimac_v: the arm looks strange, can't see the angle of the elbow11:23
SiDiand the person is a bit fat ^^11:23
mac_vno elbows :)  didnt add them11:24
SiDibut if the arm is straight then it looks a little too "short" compared to the body11:24
mac_vSiDi: yeah , that needs some work still its just a WIP ;)11:25
SiDiaside from that it looks cool11:25
mac_vkwwii: for available > http://imagebin.ca/view/hWBBk1.html11:29
mac_vkwwii: how did you put all your icons in one plate? like this > http://sinecera.de/latest.png   ?11:31
mac_voh great! kernel panic and lost that icon!11:46
knomeLOL11:47
mac_vhehe... luckily i had exported the icon , so now i'm gonna trace it \o/11:48
mac_vknome: similarly i lost the software store icon last week!11:49
* mac_v switching off all the boot testing ppa's!11:49
knomehaha, a good decision11:50
kwwiimac_v: I am drawing them in inkscape, that is how I made them all on one page12:11
mac_vkwwii: i'm doing them in inkscape too... which option is that?12:12
kwwiimac_v: not an option, just spaced out on the page12:12
mac_voh.. that , ok   :)12:13
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SiDikwwii: you have no idea how hilarious i think it is to not be able to put the wallpaper photos in the CD :D15:34
kwwiiSiDi: why?15:36
SiDiBecause tomboy takes 58MB on the CD15:36
kwwiihehe15:36
SiDiand since they were running out of room, i've heard they removed gimp's doc from the CD :)15:36
mac_vkwwii: http://imagebin.ca/view/IJ5JqzaT.html :)15:37
kwwiimac_v: hehe, you did it15:38
mac_v\o/15:38
kwwiimac_v: http://siencera.de/latest.png is where I got before I gave up15:38
SiDiAway looks like 'haha i run away from you' :D15:38
SiDikwwii: 404, you really gave up early :P15:39
kwwiiin the end, I am going with the bubbles with the identifiers on them, all in all it seems the best15:39
kwwiierm, sorry15:39
mac_vyeah 40415:39
kwwiihttp://sinecera.de/latest.png15:39
mac_vyeah , human has the liberty of color :)15:40
mac_voh ... i got disconnected...15:51
mac_vkwwii: did you happen to reply, about the labels ? i lost connection in between15:53
kwwiiabout the labels?15:54
kwwii16:40 < mac_v> yeah , human has the liberty of color :)15:54
kwwii16:47 -!- mac_v [n=mac_V@unaffiliated/macvre] has quit [Read error: 104  (Connection reset by peer)]15:54
kwwiiis the last I have15:54
mac_voh!15:54
mac_vkwwii: what is the icon label for these empathy status icons? i cant find them :(15:55
kwwiiwhat do you mean by label? I don't understand15:55
mac_vhrm... ah..15:56
kwwiiI named them as per the xdg spec (funny, that as this was the first part of the spec that I worked on since I became co-maintainer)15:56
kwwiiand they are in the status/ dir15:56
mac_voh15:56
kwwiiuser-available, -away, -busy, -invisible, and -offline15:56
kwwiithey are in the human theme in my ppa15:57
mac_vin your ppa ,... hehe i was searching in human karmic :D15:57
kwwiithey haven't made it that far yet :p15:58
mac_vi was actually searching for the present empathy icons , too , damn they are well hidden :(15:59
SiDiDoes anyone know when mat_t will be back ?15:59
kwwiithey are probably in the app itself I guess15:59
kwwiiSiDi: yes, on Monday15:59
SiDiokies ty15:59
SiDihe's the one doing xsplash theming, if im not wrong ?15:59
mac_vah ha... found them!16:00
andreasnmac_v, usr/share/empathy?16:00
mac_vgrr... yeah16:01
andreasngrr?16:01
mac_vit uses its own labels!16:01
mac_vemapthy-available and so on :(16:01
kwwiiyeah, stupid that16:01
kwwiipidgin is worse though16:01
andreasnfile bugs?16:02
andreasnshould be rather easy to fix16:02
* mac_v pokes kwwii to fix the naming ;p16:02
kwwiiandreasn: well, we just changed teh xdg spec so I imagine it will take a bit of time for that to make it's way down16:02
andreasnwhat does the xdg spec say now?16:03
kwwiiactually, dobey still needs to add the rest of the names to the spec16:03
andreasndoes it still conflict with the telepathy spec?16:03
mac_vlol... what is "extended away" ;)16:03
kwwiiandreasn: no, empathy and the spec are inline (expect their use of the empathy- prefix instead of user-16:03
andreasnmac_v, something that a lot of people would go after you with tar and feathers if you ever suggested to remove it ;)16:03
andreasnkwwii, but what about telepathy? (not empathy)16:04
kwwiithe official names are now: user-available, -offline, -away, -busy, -invisible, -idle16:04
mac_v;)16:04
andreasnsounds sane16:04
mac_v\o/16:04
kwwiiandreasn: iirc, telepathy is also already using the new names16:05
kwwiianything that is not should have a bug filed against it ;)16:05
kwwiikde goes all out and has *lots* of names16:05
andreasnI'll check with hbons if they can fix the pidgin names16:06
kwwiithat would be cool16:06
andreasncalled him now, we're looking into it16:10
kwwiicool, if there is any discussion as to the names and such, could you add it to the bug in launchpad?16:10
andreasnthere is a bug in launchpad?16:11
kwwiiandreasn: yes, we decided to have all the discussions on xdg naming as bugs on lp so we could follow things16:16
kwwii#396822 and #40118616:16
kwwiihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/icon-naming-spec/+bug/39682216:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396822 in icon-naming-spec "Icon spec should have a more complete set of status icons" [Undecided,New]16:17
zniavrehello / bonjour16:22
zniavreim trying karmic (9.10) i saw the new icon folder in home directory , i first thought it was "emblems" but they are new icons from Human theme16:24
zniavrewhy Download folder does not work ?16:24
zniavre(im tryng to adjust my own icon theme but this folder still does not work with mine)16:25
zniavrehttp://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2540/captureen.png16:26
mac_vzniavre: how have you labelled the icon?16:29
mac_v "Download" or Downloads" ?16:29
mrdoobdoes empathy have IRC?16:29
mac_vmrdoob: yup , but it sucks ;p16:30
mrdoob:(16:30
zniavremac_v,  i tried every thing download Download (s) Téléchargement (s) téléchargement (s)  (om a bit french)16:30
mrdoobwell, I guess I can always install pidgin :)16:30
zniavremac_v,  +1 for empathy   :o)16:31
mac_vmrdoob: try xchat16:31
mrdoobno no16:31
mrdoobI like to have everything in one program16:31
mrdoobpidgin does the job16:31
mac_v;p16:31
mac_vmrdoob: then empathy is better than pidgin16:31
zniavremrdoob, empathy too but in a strange way16:31
mac_vzniavre: hmm.. that weird , the downloads icon works for me16:33
mrdooboh, better than pidgin? sounds like a deal, I haven't find the option on jaunty yet16:33
mac_vmrdoob: you need to install telepathy-idle16:33
mac_vfor irc16:33
SiDizniavre: echo $XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR16:33
zniavremac_v,  http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3125/capture1hg.png16:34
mac_vzniavre: when did you install karmic?16:36
zniavreat least 10days (maybe more)16:38
mac_vhrm... :(16:39
zniavreSiDi,  it does nothing in terminal16:39
mac_vzniavre: what gtk theme are you using? the transparency is nice :) is it with emerald?16:39
zniavremy own gtk/metacity16:40
zniavre(and i did not patch karmic yet with rgba-module from gnome-look it was marvelous before)16:41
zniavre:o)16:41
mac_vzniavre: you have it on gnome-look? link?16:42
zniavreold one not updated since a century16:42
zniavrezni3 on gnome-look16:43
zniavrecan i fill a bug report on launchpad for this "bug" ?16:43
mac_vyeah...  why not :)16:46
zniavreok thank you very much16:48
SiDizniavre: it should be set afaik16:48
zniavrewhat afaik is meaning ?16:50
zniavresorry i hav to bring my daughter somewhere else see you tonight16:51
SiDias far as i know == afaik16:53
SiDias far as i can tell (afaict) - can see (afaics)16:53
* kwwii heads out for the evening...have fun, bbl16:59
SiDibb kwwii17:10
kwwiianyone have mrdoob'S email?17:31
mac_vkwwii: did you try the wiki? maybe wiki user-accounts?17:32
kwwiiI did a text search on the wiki and only found the boot pages with his name on it17:34
kwwiiahhh....I know where to look17:34
kwwiiboah, he has no email listed anywhere...crap17:36
mac_vkwwii: is it urgent ? :) , i think he'll be back tomorrow17:43
mac_vkwwii: or you could contact MadsRH , if its urgent , mrdoob has sent a mail to MadsRh17:45
kwwiiI sent him a message through launchpad, thanks anyway though17:45
mac_v:)17:45
FLOZzHello all  _o/18:02
MadsRHDoes anyone know who "MacUntu", "Plun" and "Darkshade" from the forum is? I'm hoping to catch one of them here on the IRC, but I don't know their IRC names.22:41
zniavre_good evening23:56
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