| rickspencer3 | hi robert_ancell, hi TheMuso | 00:05 |
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| TheMuso | Hey rickspencer3. | 00:06 |
| robert_ancell | hey rickspencer3, TheMuso | 00:09 |
| TheMuso | Hey robert_ancell/. | 00:15 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, hey, pulse was really bad yesterday, i'll see it it still plays up today | 00:15 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: hrm ok | 00:18 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, it locks up after a number of sound effects (e.g. alt-tab, tab in terminal). 100% CPU then kill -9 makes all the sounds be played at once | 00:19 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, note I was using metacity yesterday and I'm using compiz today, it might be something with that | 00:19 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: hrm interesting. | 00:19 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: I wonder whether thats libcanberra. | 00:19 |
| robert_ancell | And the GUI was locking up while this was occurring, i.e. I couldn't switch to different applications with alt-tab (I had to go to text terminal to kill). It could be metacity+pulse? | 00:20 |
| TheMuso | right | 00:21 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Actually, I am about to upload the final 0.9.16 release of pulseaudio. See if that helps when it comes through. | 00:25 |
| robert_ancell | cool | 00:25 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, hi, I just got of the phone with Stormy from Gnome foundation | 00:33 |
| rickspencer3 | she wants to set up a little powwow to discuss how gnome, ubuntu, etc... can work more effectively on accessibility | 00:34 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: You have my undevided attention, continue. :) | 00:35 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, the next step is for us all to meet in an irc room and go over the current situation | 00:35 |
| TheMuso | rickspencer3: Right. | 00:36 |
| rickspencer3 | I think mozilla, gnome, us, etc... | 00:36 |
| TheMuso | ok | 00:36 |
| rickspencer3 | and then discuss potential ways of working better together | 00:36 |
| TheMuso | right | 00:36 |
| rickspencer3 | I think there are probably technology issues, and also workflow issues | 00:36 |
| TheMuso | Yeah I'd agree with that. | 00:36 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm betting that different parts of the echo system have different perspectives about what can be improved, so a meeting of the minds would be useful, imo | 00:37 |
| TheMuso | Agreed. | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | not just the echo system, but the ecosystem too ;) | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | TheMuso, ok, I'll let you know when I hear | 00:37 |
| TheMuso | heh | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | eeejay, ^^ | 00:37 |
| rickspencer3 | I mentioned both TheMuso and eeejay as people who should be there | 00:38 |
| TheMuso | Ok cool. | 00:38 |
| * rickspencer3 reboots after dist-upgrade | 00:38 | |
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| robert_ancell | TheMuso, is there a way I can kick the buildservers to try again? yelp failed to build but I think it was a problem with xulrunner which has been recently updated | 01:42 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: I can retry it for you if you would like. | 01:43 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Only those with upload rights can retry builds. | 01:43 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, ok, thanks | 01:43 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: Queued for retry on all arches that failed to build. | 01:50 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, thanks | 01:50 |
| TheMuso | np | 01:51 |
| TheMuso | hrm lpia failed. | 01:58 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, yeah, this is something broken... | 02:00 |
| robert_ancell | It's something to do with xulrunner, asac knows about that I think | 02:01 |
| TheMuso | ok | 02:01 |
| asac | robert_ancell: the previous version worked? | 02:04 |
| asac | you dont talk about patches we had. did all patches still apply cleanly? | 02:04 |
| asac | (in changelog that is) | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | asac, it built locally and I guess the previous version worked | 02:04 |
| robert_ancell | asac, all patches applied as before | 02:05 |
| asac | how much i dislike huge po diffs ;) | 02:05 |
| asac | in the debdiffs | 02:05 |
| asac | this reminds me ... what are the exact issues with the webkit branch ;)? | 02:06 |
| asac | (of yelp) | 02:06 |
| asac | is it really something we cannot ship ? ;) | 02:07 |
| robert_ancell | I don't know. I expect we can ship now as webkit is on the cd | 02:07 |
| asac | well. upstream webkit branch was dropped from the gnome release seb told me ;) | 02:09 |
| asac | just wondered if its really too bad for us too | 02:09 |
| asac | its odd that it built locally for oyu | 02:10 |
| TheMuso | robert_ancell: What mirror do you pull from? Its possible it built against an older version that your mirror has. | 02:10 |
| robert_ancell | TheMuso, I use archive.ubuntu.com | 02:11 |
| asac | i think that could be really a xulrunner regression | 02:11 |
| asac | at best file a bug against xulrunner-1.9.1 and yelp saying "yelp fails to build because it cannot find nspr headers" ;) | 02:11 |
| asac | *sigh* ;) | 02:12 |
| robert_ancell | asac, ok | 02:12 |
| asac | assign the bug to me please | 02:12 |
| asac | link the build log in the bug | 02:13 |
| asac | thx | 02:13 |
| robert_ancell | bug 427638 | 02:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427638 in xulrunner-1.9.1 "yelp fails to build against xulrunner 1.9.1, cannot find nspr headers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427638 | 02:15 |
| asac | thx | 02:24 |
| ccheney | gar if you quit firefox after upgrading it does not save tabs | 03:43 |
| ccheney | you have to kill it to keep the tabs apparently | 03:43 |
| * ccheney lost probably 50+ tabs he was using :-\ | 03:43 | |
| TheMuso | ouch | 03:45 |
| Amaranth | ccheney: there is a setting for that | 03:46 |
| Amaranth | it probably asked you at some point and whatever you answered it stuck with so you have to go into the preferences and start the startup option | 03:47 |
| ccheney | oh.. no it normally works right, it did not because i just upgraded | 03:47 |
| ccheney | after it restarted and killed all my tabs when i tried to quit again it asked if i wanted to save the tabs | 03:48 |
| ccheney | but when i quit after upgrading the first time it just killed all my tabs | 03:48 |
| ccheney | er i mean the first time i quit directly after upgrading is when it killed my tabs | 03:49 |
| ccheney | so its some bug of when you quit after having upgraded while firefox is still running that it kills your tabs | 03:49 |
| ccheney | asac: ping ^ are you aware of that issue? | 03:49 |
| ccheney | when i quit the first time (when it lost the tabs) i noticed it did not ask me if i wanted to save tabs, it just didn't save them and lost them all | 03:50 |
| asac | ccheney: did firefox offer you to "restart" i the firefox window? | 03:50 |
| ccheney | i don't recall seeing it ask no, the popup said i needed to restart (i am still running jaunty fwiw) | 03:50 |
| asac | yes. the popup is not what i mean | 03:51 |
| asac | ok | 03:51 |
| ccheney | had problems with my system and with vm on karmic so downgraded back to jaunty | 03:51 |
| asac | ccheney: ubufox installed? firefox-3.0? | 03:51 |
| asac | short answer is: yes, upgrading still can cause arbitrary bad things | 03:51 |
| ccheney | ubufox 0.7-0ubuntu1 and firefox 3.0 yea | 03:51 |
| asac | with running firefox | 03:51 |
| asac | ok | 03:51 |
| asac | yes. thats known bug | 03:51 |
| ccheney | ok | 03:52 |
| asac | well. its known that everything can happen. | 03:52 |
| ccheney | heh | 03:52 |
| asac | we try to display the restart asap ... and if you get it its likely that it works | 03:52 |
| * ccheney needs to remember to kill firefox instead that works | 03:52 | |
| asac | but if not you are doomed ;) | 03:52 |
| asac | yes | 03:52 |
| robert_ancell | asac, are you doing something on gnome-bluetooth? | 06:11 |
| didrocks | good morning robert_ancell | 07:12 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, hey | 07:13 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: hello | 07:33 |
| didrocks | hey rugby471 | 07:33 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: were you the one who was speaking about using the gnome accessibility layer for the where is it bnutton in software-store | 07:33 |
| rugby471 | bnutton > button | 07:33 |
| didrocks | rugby471: exactly | 07:34 |
| rugby471 | right | 07:34 |
| rugby471 | was that going to be in karmic+1? | 07:34 |
| didrocks | yes, because we have first to enable gnome accessibility layer by default | 07:34 |
| didrocks | and it's too late to do that in karmic | 07:34 |
| rugby471 | as I was thinking of working on a simple 'where is it' function for karmic & those you don't have the gnome accessibility layer on | 07:35 |
| rugby471 | sure | 07:35 |
| rugby471 | ok then I shall continue with it :-) | 07:35 |
| didrocks | rugby471: I'm working on the workaround too | 07:35 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: oh | 07:35 |
| didrocks | rugby471: so, let me a week for finishing shaping it, please :) | 07:35 |
| rugby471 | sure | 07:35 |
| rugby471 | I shall stop work on it then as you are probably ahead of me :-) | 07:35 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: what does it involve? | 07:36 |
| didrocks | rugby471: calling some lib from gnome-menu | 07:36 |
| rugby471 | ah okay | 07:36 |
| didrocks | rugby471: you were thinking about what? | 07:36 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: will that be in karmic? | 07:36 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: sjust a simple image that goes Applications > Graphics > GIMP etc. | 07:37 |
| didrocks | rugby471: yes | 07:37 |
| didrocks | rugby471: well, it's best to calculate it | 07:37 |
| rugby471 | is that what your code does? | 07:37 |
| didrocks | rugby471: because when you have many items, you have new subcategories | 07:37 |
| rugby471 | yeah | 07:37 |
| didrocks | yes | 07:37 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: cool well I shall leave you to finish that then :-) | 07:37 |
| rugby471 | didrocks: see ya | 07:38 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, can you look at sponsoring bug 423450? The DX team want this functionality. | 08:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 423450 in gdm "Add user manager dbus interface to gdmserver" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423450 | 08:21 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 09:03 |
| seb128 | good morning there | 09:03 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 09:03 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you today? | 09:03 |
| seb128 | good! | 09:04 |
| seb128 | you? | 09:04 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 :) | 09:04 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm good too. quite tired though! | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hum, why does apport refuses to report assertions when it doesn't success to get the error in karmic? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | hum, why does apport refuses to report assertions when it doesn't success to get the error in karmic? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | ups | 09:05 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks | 09:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, same here, went to bed after 2am this night | 09:05 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - you'll be needing to catch up on sleep tomorrow then ;) | 09:06 |
| seb128 | I slept until 8am so that's ok but yes extra sleep on saturday ;-) | 09:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i slept until nearly 8am too, which is really bad - i'm meant to be in work at 8am;) | 09:07 |
| * seb128 is sort of disapointed by karmic boot speed | 09:07 | |
| seb128 | all the charts sent are somewhat around 35 to 45 seconds to gdm load | 09:07 |
| * Laney is disappointed that ubuntu-boot broke his boot ;) | 09:07 | |
| seb128 | I got an error at first reboot about disk checks | 09:08 |
| seb128 | then next reboot take ages without feedback, I'm wondering if it was fscking | 09:08 |
| seb128 | and now it's working | 09:08 |
| seb128 | weird thing | 09:08 |
| mvo | hm, I think its time for a compiz update - before the weekend is the perfect time ;) | 09:10 |
| pitti | Good morning | 09:10 |
| * mac_v gdm -> desktop 45 secs :( but boot -> gdm 30 secs \o/ | 09:10 | |
| pitti | sorry, I'm late today, we were plucking pplums | 09:10 |
| didrocks | mvo: releasing on Friday is always the rule :) | 09:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: make quickly depend on devscripts? p-d-e doesn't need devscripts, but if you need it, you ought to depend on it | 09:11 |
| mvo | pitti: sounds fun - to make jam out of it? | 09:11 |
| didrocks | pitti: python-mkdebian from p-d-e uses debchange which is in devscripts | 09:11 |
| pitti | mvo: that, and "einkochen", and just eating some as they are | 09:11 |
| pitti | didrocks: ah, that, right | 09:12 |
| didrocks | (and hi too ;)) | 09:12 |
| pitti | didrocks: bonjour :) | 09:12 |
| didrocks | pitti: so, do you want to make p-d-e recommends devscripts or do I need to change it into quickly? | 09:12 |
| mvo | mpt: good news, the pathbar code is now in a branch, but its lacking little features like support for click events :) but nzmm is great, the started to work on it already (and I pushed some stub code for the events as well) | 09:13 |
| pitti | didrocks: sounds like it should be in both; suggests for p-d-e, and depends in quickly | 09:15 |
| pitti | didrocks: for most projects you don't need devscripts to use p-d-e (as a build system) | 09:15 |
| didrocks | pitti: even if quickly doesn't use it directly? I need to document that somewhere so :) | 09:15 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 09:16 |
| pitti | didrocks: oh, I thought you'd actually use debuild in it | 09:16 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 09:16 |
| didrocks | pitti: no, I dropped debuild in 0.2 and use directly dpkg-buildpackage | 09:16 |
| didrocks | so, I have a dep on dpkg-dev | 09:16 |
| pitti | ah | 09:16 |
| pitti | so, no lintian love :) | 09:16 |
| pitti | didrocks: so, I'm happy to change it to say "you need to install the devscripts package for this to work" | 09:17 |
| didrocks | well, rickspencer3 was afraid by the whole bunch of dep we brought with quickly, and most of them came from devscripts initially :) | 09:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: but devscripts is a heavy dependency, which I wouldn't like to inflict as a buil-dep of everything which uses p-d-e as a build system | 09:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I understand, but the message can be good. I can do it if you wish (I'm already fixing a bug in python-mkdebian) | 09:18 |
| pitti | well, but quickly isn't a build-dep or a binary dep of packages | 09:18 |
| didrocks | yes, I think we will have to bring the whole devscript things back | 09:18 |
| didrocks | (in quickly) | 09:19 |
| pitti | didrocks: if you are worried about that, it doesn't matter whether p-d-e or quickly itself pulls it in | 09:19 |
| seb128 | is somebody else having indicator applet crashes when starting and closing evo? | 09:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: yes of course. It was more on the "logical" way to justify adding devscripts dep on ubuntu-template, even if not directly use (a comment in changelog can precise that and in debian/README) | 09:20 |
| seb128 | what the? | 09:22 |
| * seb128 looks at asac | 09:24 | |
| seb128 | asac, the firefox update in karmic broke greasemonkey | 09:25 |
| pitti | hm, and makes yelp ftbfs | 09:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you know why apport refuses to open bugs about insertions in karmic? it says it can't report bug if the assertion error is not available | 09:37 |
| pitti | seb128: that's still because back then you said that SIGABRT crashes aren't useful because you are missing the message? | 09:38 |
| pitti | seb128: so for now I only allowed those which use assert() and have a message | 09:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, where does it look for the error? | 09:38 |
| pitti | seb128: if you do assert(), our glibc now stores the message in a global variable (__abort_msg), and add_gdb_info() peeks it out from there | 09:39 |
| pitti | so perhaps g_assert() doesn't use assert() but its own implementation | 09:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, how would I debug that not working there? | 09:39 |
| pitti | seb128: "there"? | 09:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, the message indicator applet assert every time I close evolution | 09:40 |
| seb128 | but apport keeps refusing to report the bug | 09:40 |
| seb128 | the stacktrace looks useful though, that's frustrating | 09:40 |
| pitti | seb128: well, I don't mind enabling it again | 09:40 |
| pitti | I disabled it on your request :) | 09:40 |
| seb128 | well, the point is that it should get the assert error | 09:41 |
| seb128 | I would like to debug why that fails | 09:41 |
| pitti | ah | 09:41 |
| pitti | seb128: does it use g_assert*? | 09:41 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:41 |
| * pitti gets glib source | 09:41 | |
| mpt | mvo, neat | 09:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/269017/ | 09:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, see #3 | 09:43 |
| * pitti looks in ./glib/gtestutils. | 09:43 | |
| pitti | c | 09:43 |
| pitti | ah, indeed | 09:43 |
| pitti | g_printerr ("**\n%s\n", s); | 09:43 |
| pitti | abort(); | 09:44 |
| pitti | so this could either say: | 09:44 |
| pitti | ah, no | 09:44 |
| pitti | it could just set __abort_msg perhaps | 09:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, should I open a bug and assign it to you? ;-) | 09:45 |
| pitti | sure | 09:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, or quick way would be to not filter out those without message for now | 09:45 |
| seb128 | and see how it goes | 09:45 |
| seb128 | could we try that for the weekend? | 09:45 |
| pitti | seb128: if you want to do it locally, search for "Assert" in /usr/share/pyshared/apport/ui.py and rip out the check | 09:45 |
| pitti | seb128: no problem | 09:46 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:46 |
| pitti | seb128: I could also just fix glib :) | 09:46 |
| seb128 | want a bug? | 09:46 |
| pitti | seb128: I can just do it now | 09:46 |
| seb128 | or do you want to do it now? | 09:46 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 09:46 | |
| seb128 | thanks! | 09:46 |
| pitti | I was about to do some sponsoring, but I can do that later | 09:46 |
| pitti | ah, I'll do the sponsoring while it builds | 09:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm on indicator-session | 09:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I still think it's good to suppress that in general; with assertions, a lot of stacktracetop will be identical | 09:47 |
| seb128 | for sponsoring | 09:47 |
| seb128 | just fyi | 09:47 |
| pitti | and without a message, it's hard to do auto-dupes, and see what's going on | 09:47 |
| seb128 | right | 09:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll sponsor bug 385850 | 09:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 385850 in hundredpapercuts "Ship fewer screensavers by default" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/385850 | 09:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, didn't you do that yesterday? | 09:48 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, xscreensaver, but not yet the gnome-screensaver change | 09:48 |
| pitti | (just a recommends drop) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 09:48 |
| seb128 | thanks | 09:48 |
| pitti | seb128: I also have bug 423450 on my list | 09:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 423450 in gdm "Add user manager dbus interface to gdmserver" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423450 | 09:48 |
| pitti | but that needs some FFE/checking | 09:48 |
| * pitti does sponsoring one hour every day now, *sigh* | 09:50 | |
| seb128 | don't tell me | 09:51 |
| seb128 | I spent most of my evening on sponsoring yesterday | 09:51 |
| seb128 | thanks to the weekly dxteam tarball day ;-) | 09:51 |
| pitti | seb128: we are this --><-- close to getting package set upload rights | 09:52 |
| pitti | once we get this, Robert can upload directly | 09:52 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 09:52 |
| pitti | and Ken as well | 09:52 |
| seb128 | and chrisccoulson | 09:52 |
| seb128 | and didrocks | 09:52 |
| pitti | so for easy updates, they shoudl just do it | 09:52 |
| pitti | indeed | 09:52 |
| seb128 | that will rock ;-) | 09:52 |
| pitti | and just use sponsoring bugs if they aren't sure and have complex updates, like the gnome-games split | 09:53 |
| didrocks | pitti: can you have a look at my proposed merge 11593, please? this is to fix bug #421689 | 09:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 421689 in quickly "a ubuntu-project should depend on python-desktopcouch-records" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/421689 | 09:59 |
| didrocks | (ok, the bot doesn't take merge number: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/python-distutils-extra/handle-submodules/+merge/11593) | 09:59 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - it is a mistake that totem-plugins still depends on python-gdata isn't it? | 10:12 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yes, I will fix that when I do the upload to use libgdata | 10:12 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, or do you want to work on the update? | 10:12 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i can work on that. | 10:13 |
| seb128 | thanks | 10:13 |
| seb128 | hum, hate python | 10:13 |
| seb128 | so totem crashes in python code at closing | 10:13 |
| seb128 | but valgrind lists a zillion errors every time there is python involved | 10:14 |
| seb128 | I can't figure which ones are real issues | 10:14 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i've tried debugging python issues before, but i don't understand it enough ;) | 10:14 |
| seb128 | cassidy, hey | 10:19 |
| cassidy | seb128: morning | 10:19 |
| seb128 | cassidy, do we want the new telepathy-farsight or telepathy-salut? | 10:19 |
| * seb128 is doing some syncs | 10:19 | |
| cassidy | we definitely want the latest tp-fs | 10:19 |
| cassidy | as said yesterday, salut is cool to have but is more risky | 10:20 |
| seb128 | does it bring anything user visible for karmic? | 10:20 |
| cassidy | oth, if critical bugs are found, they'll be fixed rsn | 10:20 |
| seb128 | what about papyon 0.4.2? | 10:20 |
| cassidy | debug support in Empathy, tube new API | 10:20 |
| seb128 | debug support? | 10:21 |
| cassidy | empathy - help - debug | 10:21 |
| cassidy | very useful to get logs | 10:21 |
| cassidy | you'll need latest papyon if you want to ship the new butterfly (hopefully released today) supporting audio/video | 10:21 |
| seb128 | does it break anything or can we just sync it? | 10:22 |
| cassidy | it shouldn't, that's mostly new code not used in current butterfly | 10:22 |
| cassidy | it also have some nice fixes | 10:23 |
| cassidy | which would be cool to have | 10:23 |
| cassidy | see http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/telepathy/2009-September/003821.html | 10:23 |
| seb128 | ok, it's still 1.5 month before karmic so we have time to fix issues | 10:23 |
| cassidy | so yeah I'd vote +1 for papyon | 10:23 |
| seb128 | seems you recommend getting new telepathy-salut, papyon, butterfly? | 10:23 |
| cassidy | butterfly isn't released yet. not sure for this one. Lot of users will be excited to have audio/video support but it hasn't been tested extensively yet | 10:24 |
| asac | seb128: dont know about greasemonkey. | 10:24 |
| asac | yelp i have a bug | 10:24 |
| seb128 | asac, what info would be useful in a bug? | 10:24 |
| seb128 | asac, is it working for you? | 10:24 |
| asac | i dont use greasemonkey ;) | 10:24 |
| asac | what symptoms? just doesnt work at all? | 10:25 |
| seb128 | cassidy, ok thanks, will try papyon locally | 10:25 |
| seb128 | asac, I use stock replies on launchpad and I don't get those listed today | 10:25 |
| seb128 | asac, the scripts list is empty | 10:26 |
| seb128 | and it was working yesterday | 10:26 |
| seb128 | ie something makes the script I'm using to have been deleted or not listed | 10:27 |
| asac | hmm | 10:27 |
| asac | where is that script? | 10:27 |
| asac | in ~seb128 on rookery? | 10:28 |
| seb128 | asac, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/bugtriage.user.js | 10:28 |
| seb128 | I don't get the "this is a greasemonkey script do you want to install it" banner either | 10:29 |
| asac | hmm. works here a bit | 10:29 |
| asac | [Use Apport] [Needs Backtrace] [Needs Details] [Needs Valg... | 10:29 |
| asac | those links i have on bugs | 10:29 |
| asac | seb128: maybe langpacks? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:29 |
| asac | are you using french? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | I'm using a french locale | 10:29 |
| seb128 | but menus are in english | 10:29 |
| seb128 | so I guess there is no langpacks installed | 10:29 |
| asac | yeah | 10:29 |
| asac | hmm | 10:29 |
| asac | any error on tools -> error console ? | 10:31 |
| asac | is there a greasemonkey menu entry at all for you? in tools ? | 10:32 |
| seb128 | asac, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/xul.png | 10:32 |
| seb128 | I've a Tools, Greasemonkey, Gérer les scripts | 10:33 |
| seb128 | so some french translations there! | 10:33 |
| seb128 | the dialog lists no script though | 10:33 |
| seb128 | where is was listing stock reply before the update | 10:33 |
| seb128 | LC_ALL=C firefox -> no difference | 10:34 |
| seb128 | hey njpatel | 10:34 |
| asac | seb128: can you try with fresh profile (like stop ffox ... move .mozilla dir somewhere else ... start)? | 10:37 |
| asac | a bit scary error that you see there. | 10:38 |
| asac | i mean: feels like its the cause. | 10:38 |
| seb128 | asac, it's weird, greasemonkey is not listed in the addon dialog with a guest session | 10:43 |
| asac | hmm | 10:47 |
| pitti | argh, I'm a moron | 10:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, ? | 10:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I bited into my table, wondering why my glib assert fix doesn't work, until I found out that I just forgot to rm the old core file before testing the new version | 10:48 |
| pitti | seb128: nevermind; I just wasted 20 minutes on something stupid | 10:48 |
| asac | seb128: i assume you use the greasemonkey package? | 10:48 |
| seb128 | asac, yes | 10:49 |
| pitti | seb128: collecting the g_assert* message works now | 10:49 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 10:49 | |
| asac | seb128: /usr/share/greasemonkey/install.rdf | 10:49 |
| seb128 | you rock! | 10:49 |
| asac | can you paste that file? | 10:49 |
| asac | its odd. the package here is quite outdated | 10:49 |
| asac | i mean wrt to install.rdf | 10:49 |
| asac | i had greasemonkey installed through AMO as it seems | 10:50 |
| seb128 | asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/269048/ | 10:51 |
| seb128 | asac, I added the initial # on pastebin | 10:51 |
| seb128 | it refuses it with a " * PHP and other Web scripts are not allowed" otherwise | 10:51 |
| asac | wh do you have 3.5.* and i have 3.1b2? | 10:51 |
| seb128 | security thing? | 10:51 |
| asac | let me reinstall that package | 10:51 |
| seb128 | $ dlocate /usr/share/greasemonkey/install.rdf | 10:51 |
| seb128 | greasemonkey: /usr/share/greasemonkey/install.rdf | 10:51 |
| seb128 | ii greasemonkey 0.8.20090123.1-0ubuntu2 firefox extension that enables customization | 10:52 |
| seb128 | *** 0.8.20090123.1-0ubuntu2 0 | 10:52 |
| seb128 | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages | 10:52 |
| seb128 | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 10:52 |
| seb128 | asac, you might have told me to change the number when it was broken some weeks ago | 10:52 |
| seb128 | I think it already broke when I installed firefox 3. | 10:53 |
| seb128 | 3.5 | 10:53 |
| seb128 | you told me to tweak the numbers | 10:53 |
| seb128 | which worked until today | 10:53 |
| seb128 | asac, ^ | 10:53 |
| asac | ah | 10:54 |
| asac | ok | 10:54 |
| asac | and installing the xpi caused issues for you? | 10:54 |
| seb128 | what xpi? | 10:54 |
| asac | seb128: go to tools -> addons -> get addons | 10:55 |
| asac | search for greasemonkey | 10:55 |
| asac | and "add to firefox ..." | 10:55 |
| asac | you wont see it on first result page if your package is installed | 10:55 |
| asac | because ffox thinks you already have it | 10:55 |
| asac | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/latest/748/addon-748-latest.xpi | 10:55 |
| asac | just click on that ;) | 10:55 |
| seb128 | "No matching add-ons" | 10:55 |
| seb128 | I guess I've to remove the distro one to use the xpi? | 10:56 |
| asac | seb128: no. the profile one will win | 10:56 |
| asac | thats why i didnt see that the distro one was disabled :) | 10:56 |
| asac | i am testing that now | 10:56 |
| asac | too | 10:56 |
| seb128 | restart firefox is broken | 10:57 |
| seb128 | I clicked on it twice now | 10:57 |
| seb128 | it does restart firefox | 10:57 |
| asac | seb128: are you sure you properly upgraded your ffox after the upgrade? | 10:57 |
| seb128 | but I still get the yellow banner "Restart firefox to complete your changes" | 10:57 |
| seb128 | in the addon dialog | 10:57 |
| asac | oh | 10:57 |
| seb128 | the greasemonkey one is marked "This add-on will be updated when Firefox is restarted" | 10:58 |
| seb128 | should I close and restart the old good way? | 10:58 |
| seb128 | or do you want to debug the "Restart Firefox" not doing its job? | 10:58 |
| asac | seb128: close firefox ... fix he version number in install.rdf to be 3.1 (so its disabled) | 10:58 |
| seb128 | hum | 10:59 |
| seb128 | don't ctrl-d in xchat ;-) | 10:59 |
| seb128 | asac, the you need to restart doesn't go away | 11:00 |
| seb128 | I did close firefox | 11:00 |
| seb128 | no firefox process in ps | 11:00 |
| seb128 | but the addon is still marked as waiting on restart | 11:01 |
| asac | yeah | 11:01 |
| asac | ok remove the distro package | 11:01 |
| asac | maybe that broke too much | 11:01 |
| asac | to make the install work | 11:01 |
| seb128 | still broken | 11:01 |
| seb128 | let's cancel this one and try again | 11:02 |
| asac | cancel? | 11:02 |
| seb128 | the greasemonkey list in the add-ons dialog is waiting on restart | 11:02 |
| seb128 | and it has a cancel button | 11:02 |
| asac | ok | 11:03 |
| asac | so in your profile | 11:03 |
| asac | there is extensions.log | 11:03 |
| asac | please paste that | 11:03 |
| seb128 | asac, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/xul.png | 11:03 |
| seb128 | no wait to get out of that | 11:03 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:03 |
| seb128 | asac, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/extensions.log | 11:05 |
| asac | looks bad | 11:05 |
| asac | ok... so package is removed you said? | 11:06 |
| seb128 | yes | 11:06 |
| asac | backup your profile ... then remove everythign that is extensions* in your profile ( | 11:08 |
| asac | extensions/ extensions.cache extensions.ini extensions.rdf extensions.log | 11:08 |
| bigon | seb128: could you approuve empathy that is in the new queue? | 11:09 |
| seb128 | bigon, will do | 11:09 |
| bigon | thx | 11:09 |
| seb128 | asac, that fixes it | 11:10 |
| asac | ok | 11:11 |
| seb128 | asac, and stock replies are listed again | 11:11 |
| asac | please keep the old profile so we can look at it later | 11:11 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:11 |
| seb128 | I didn't have to reinstall those | 11:11 |
| seb128 | just to install greasemonkey | 11:11 |
| asac | i will take care that the greasemonkey package will get updated | 11:11 |
| asac | which caused your issue to start | 11:11 |
| seb128 | the dialog said that greasemonkey is not compatible with 3.5.3 before restart but it works after restart | 11:12 |
| asac | though its strange that it just started now | 11:12 |
| asac | in 3.5.3 | 11:12 |
| asac | hmm | 11:12 |
| asac | that feels strange | 11:12 |
| seb128 | asac, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/xul.png | 11:14 |
| * asac installs again | 11:14 | |
| seb128 | I get that before restart | 11:14 |
| seb128 | but as said it works after restart | 11:15 |
| asac | you are right | 11:15 |
| asac | oh no ;) | 11:15 |
| asac | i looked at your screenshow | 11:15 |
| asac | hehe | 11:15 |
| seb128 | asac, want me to open a bug on launchpad for tracking? | 11:18 |
| asac | seb128: can you reproduce it? e.g. uninstall greasmonkey ... install the .xpi again? | 11:18 |
| asac | if so ... definitly | 11:18 |
| asac | but the version you see there | 11:18 |
| asac | is the packaged version | 11:19 |
| asac | so maybe its just left over from the package? | 11:19 |
| seb128 | asac, things are working for me now so I don't really care if you think that's a corner issue | 11:19 |
| seb128 | I don't want to waste your time on small details | 11:19 |
| seb128 | thanks for the help there! | 11:19 |
| asac | seb128: oh | 11:19 |
| * seb128 can triage bugs again | 11:19 | |
| asac | now i see it too ;) | 11:19 |
| seb128 | ah ;-) | 11:19 |
| seb128 | yes, I get it every time | 11:19 |
| asac | i seems if you wait long enough that "not compatible comes up" | 11:19 |
| asac | ok please file a bug | 11:20 |
| asac | assign to me | 11:20 |
| asac | if you have a second, also file a bug that greasemonkey package in the archive needs a bump as its currently not compatible with 3.5 | 11:20 |
| seb128 | asac, about what issue? ;-) an where? | 11:20 |
| asac | seb128: about the "tells me its incompatible after installing the xpi" -> firefox-3.5 | 11:20 |
| asac | about "greasemonkey package has 3.1b2 as maxVersion" -> greasemonkey | 11:21 |
| asac | and maybe a third bug about the "always wants to restart" | 11:22 |
| asac | thogh i am not so confident we can reproduce that easily | 11:22 |
| asac | that definitly was triggerd by sequence of gloomy events for you ;) | 11:22 |
| pitti | didrocks: looking | 11:25 |
| seb128 | asac, bug #427789 | 11:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427789 in firefox-3.5 ""Not compatible with Firefox 3.5.3" displayed after installing greasemonkey from firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427789 | 11:27 |
| asac | thx | 11:28 |
| seb128 | asac, bug #427790 | 11:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427790 in greasemonkey "should be updated to a version compatible with firefox 3.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427790 | 11:28 |
| seb128 | asac, I will not open a bug about the other issue, I feel it's too much a corner case to waste debugging on it | 11:29 |
| seb128 | I will open one if I get steps to trigger it though | 11:29 |
| asac | thanks a bunch | 11:29 |
| asac | sorry for the inconvenience ,) | 11:29 |
| seb128 | np, thanks for the help debugging the issue ;-) | 11:29 |
| asac | in the end my fault telling you to bump maxVersion ;) | 11:29 |
| asac | but its odd that it really breaks in a security update | 11:30 |
| seb128 | hehe | 11:30 |
| pitti | didrocks: looks fine, I just fixed a few typos | 11:32 |
| pitti | seb128: you have an easy way of triggering the assertion? want to test my glib .debs, re-trigger it, and see if apport catches it? | 11:41 |
| pitti | I just used a simple 3-line test.c with g_assert(5<4) and gdb | 11:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, for me it's "start evolution and close it" | 11:42 |
| * pitti tests | 11:42 | |
| pitti | seb128: works here.. | 11:43 |
| seb128 | you probably need email accounts there | 11:44 |
| seb128 | I can test for your there | 11:44 |
| seb128 | just give me the debdiff or a i386 deb | 11:44 |
| pitti | I just have a local maildir | 11:44 |
| pitti | seb128: debs almost built, will give you these (will be faster) | 11:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 11:45 |
| * seb128 ready to try ;-) | 11:45 | |
| pitti | seb128: I'd like to see a full end-to-end test before I throw the patch at upstream ;) | 11:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can try installing gwibber too and start it from the message indicator and close it | 11:46 |
| seb128 | see if that crashes the applet for you too | 11:47 |
| pitti | seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/tmp/glib-assert/ | 11:47 |
| * pitti tries | 11:48 | |
| pitti | seb128: remember to start apport with APPORT_REPORT_THIRDPARTY ubuntu-bug /var/crash/..., to avoid the non-native package check (thus don't start it from update-notifier) | 11:51 |
| seb128 | gnagnagna | 11:57 |
| seb128 | hate apport sometime | 11:57 |
| seb128 | "libpulse-mainloop-glib0, libpulse" outdated | 11:57 |
| seb128 | and APPORT_IGNORE_OBSOLETE_PACKAGES=1 doesn't work | 11:57 |
| seb128 | I have to upgrade before testing | 11:58 |
| seb128 | I will open a bug about APPORT_IGNORE_OBSOLETE_PACKAGES=1 not working after lunch | 11:59 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| seb128 | pitti, glib update works | 11:59 |
| pitti | seb128: \o/ | 11:59 |
| seb128 | Title: indicator-applet assert failure: ERROR:dbus-gproxy.c:2274:dbus_g_proxy_end_call_internal: assertion failed: (reply != NULL) | 12:00 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll send the patch to upstream then, and upload | 12:00 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 12:00 |
| seb128 | lunch now | 12:00 |
| seb128 | bbl | 12:00 |
| pitti | seb128: I spent 5 minutes on the patch, and 30 on getting the autoconfiscation right .. | 12:00 |
| pitti | seb128: enjoy! | 12:00 |
| asac | pitti: ffox 3.5 and xul 1.9.1 security updates need to take a detour through -proposed again. can you check (and _binary_ pocket copy from ppa) bug 404827 and 398205 | 12:08 |
| asac | thats for jaunty (universe) | 12:08 |
| asac | i dropped the details in the bug | 12:08 |
| asac | idea is again that the binaries get copied so we can copy to -security after the weekend verification is done | 12:09 |
| pitti | asac: will do after lunch; hm, that was documented on ArchiveAdministration wiki page? | 12:25 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, sent patch to upstream, and uploaded; let's see how it goes :) | 12:25 |
| * seb128 back from lunch | 12:26 | |
| seb128 | pitti, ok thanks | 12:26 |
| asac | pitti: we can wait till jdstrand wakes up ... shouldnt be that long | 12:26 |
| * pitti -> lunch, bbl | 12:26 | |
| asac | enjoy | 12:26 |
| asac | jdstrand: pitti needs your input on how to copy stuff from ppa to proposed | 12:26 |
| asac | oops | 12:27 |
| asac | wrong channel ;) | 12:27 |
| seb128 | asac, he's not there | 12:27 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:27 |
| asac | just noticed | 12:27 |
| seb128 | you don't use tab? ;-) | 12:27 |
| asac | had a spasm in my hand that made irssi switch to this window directly before sending ;) | 12:27 |
| asac | no ... irssi ;) | 12:28 |
| asac | rhythmbox is still our default, right? or should i use banshee? | 12:29 |
| Amaranth | yeah, still rhythmbox | 12:34 |
| seb128 | asac, rhythmbox | 12:34 |
| * Amaranth cries a little | 12:34 | |
| seb128 | banshee screwed, they didn't roll any tarball in the recent months | 12:34 |
| seb128 | and they have no 1.6 schedule | 12:34 |
| asac | tarballs are for the weak ;) | 12:35 |
| seb128 | stable versions too? ;-) | 12:35 |
| Amaranth | I think the lead developer is working on some netbook stuff instead | 12:35 |
| asac | git snapshots for the world | 12:35 |
| Amaranth | seb128: sure, just look at compiz :) | 12:35 |
| * seb128 makes asac responsible for the audio player in karmic | 12:35 | |
| Amaranth | ooh, that reminds me | 12:35 |
| seb128 | asac, feel free to take over that and the bugs which come with it ;-) | 12:35 |
| asac | you mean in karmic+1? | 12:35 |
| asac | urgh | 12:35 |
| Amaranth | seb128: any update on that gnome-panel patch for viewport scrolling? | 12:35 |
| asac | all bugs are pulse and alsa ;) | 12:36 |
| seb128 | whatever you feel is the right moment to upload git from unstable versions | 12:36 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, blocked on vuntz | 12:36 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, I don't care enough about the feature to upload as a distro change | 12:36 |
| Amaranth | :( | 12:36 |
| Amaranth | seb128: the patch has applied cleanly for over a year now, I don't think it'll be much maintenance | 12:37 |
| * seb128 kicks firefox for crashing when called by apport | 12:37 | |
| seb128 | twice that I upload a dump for nothing now | 12:37 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, it's extra delta and potential bugs for no real win | 12:37 |
| davmor2 | is anyone experiencing issues shutting down totem | 12:38 |
| seb128 | yes everybody | 12:39 |
| davmor2 | seb128: Thanks | 12:39 |
| seb128 | "Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox' received an X Window System error." | 12:42 |
| seb128 | oh, come on | 12:42 |
| mvo | seb128: no robert today? | 12:50 |
| seb128 | mvo, it's friday midnight for him now or something | 12:50 |
| mvo | seb128: oh, I thought its just evening in .au, but I guess it depends on the exact location :) | 12:51 |
| seb128 | mvo, he tends to be good at stopping work on time, so he might have stopped before you started your day | 12:51 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks :) | 12:51 |
| mvo | seb128: ok, thanks | 12:52 |
| seb128 | mvo, he usually leave between 9am and 10am our time | 12:52 |
| seb128 | mvo, no problem | 12:52 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks, I finally will do the compiz update today (that I wanted to do *all* week) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | mvo, \o/ | 12:52 |
| Amaranth | mvo: \o/ | 12:53 |
| seb128 | mvo, nice work on software-store btw, it's becoming better quickly ;-) | 12:53 |
| seb128 | mvo, I like the grid now it's aligned correctly ;-) | 12:53 |
| seb128 | mvo, and it's nice to have installed softwares listed with a checkbox | 12:53 |
| Amaranth | it doesn't do any more then it did two weeks ago but it looks awesome doing it now :) | 12:56 |
| mvo | Amaranth: haha - that is a pretty accurate description :) | 13:03 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| seb128 | pitti, bug #427819 | 13:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427819 in indicator-applet "indicator-applet assert failure: ERROR:dbus-gproxy.c:2274:dbus_g_proxy_end_call_internal: assertion failed: (reply != NULL)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427819 | 13:21 |
| mvo | seb128: I take the rb, and python-desktop sponsoring from robert | 13:22 |
| pitti | seb128: nice! | 13:22 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks! | 13:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks for the quick fixing ;-) | 13:23 |
| pitti | you're welcome | 13:23 |
| pitti | seb128: don't thank me too early, you'll just get even more bugs .. | 13:23 |
| * mvo mubbles about him always mistyping rhythmbox | 13:23 | |
| pitti | mvo: Rharbarber! Rharbarber! | 13:24 |
| asac | seb128: g_test_run_suite_internal ? | 13:24 |
| asac | was that a test bug? | 13:24 |
| asac | i guess so | 13:24 |
| seb128 | asac, bug number? | 13:24 |
| seb128 | oh the one I just sent | 13:25 |
| seb128 | no, not a test bug | 13:25 |
| pitti | for assertions, the last couple of stack frames will probably always be the same | 13:25 |
| pitti | but the dupe finder doesn't rely on them, just on the assertion message | 13:26 |
| asac | seb128: feels odd that evolution enters "g_test_run_suite_..." | 13:26 |
| asac | or is that just a assertion facility in glib | 13:26 |
| seb128 | that's glib | 13:27 |
| seb128 | evo do g_assert | 13:27 |
| asac | ok | 13:27 |
| seb128 | which leads to those functions in glib | 13:27 |
| asac | yes thats what i was asking. thx | 13:27 |
| seb128 | yeah for fusa having correct im status now | 13:29 |
| asac | seb128: g_test_suite_run is clearly a testing facility | 13:31 |
| asac | and not an implemetnation of g_assert or something | 13:31 |
| asac | http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/stable/glib-Testing.html | 13:31 |
| asac | are you saying they reuse that somewhat for g_assert implementation? | 13:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ do you know? | 13:32 |
| pitti | no, sorry | 13:32 |
| asac | all i am saying that either that crash report is from a make check run | 13:32 |
| asac | or something is really odd there c;) | 13:32 |
| pitti | but the macros I saw just use the internal g_assert_message() function | 13:32 |
| seb128 | asac, no, that crash is the indicator-applet crashing when closing evolution | 13:32 |
| seb128 | asac, that's the dump in gdb locally | 13:36 |
| seb128 | #2 0x0028d932 in abort () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 | 13:36 |
| seb128 | #3 0x001faf2d in g_assertion_message () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | 13:36 |
| seb128 | #4 0x001fb57d in g_assertion_message_cmpnum () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 | 13:36 |
| seb128 | #5 0x00c5c45a in dbus_g_proxy_end_call_internal (proxy=<value optimized out>, | 13:36 |
| seb128 | call_id=<value optimized out>, error=0xbfdccc8c, first_arg_type=161132024, | 13:36 |
| seb128 | args=0xbfdccc50 "x\314Ü¿") at dbus-gproxy.c:2274 | 13:36 |
| seb128 | #6 0x00c5c695 in dbus_g_proxy_end_call (proxy=0x99ab958, call=0xf, | 13:36 |
| seb128 | error=0xbfdccc8c, first_arg_type=161132024) at dbus-gproxy.c:2548 | 13:36 |
| asac | so the retrace is wrong somehow | 13:36 |
| seb128 | well, g_assert path is weird | 13:36 |
| seb128 | but from frame #5 it's correct | 13:36 |
| asac | that gdb looks ok | 13:37 |
| asac | i mean the http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31651354/Stacktrace.txt | 13:37 |
| asac | in the bug | 13:37 |
| asac | it goes to testsuite ;) | 13:37 |
| asac | but well. probably optimization or something making fun stuff here | 13:37 |
| pitti | Riddell: do you think anything will be done for bug 256245 still? | 13:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 256245 in kpackagekit "Kubuntu GUI package manager does not warn if packages are unsigned" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/256245 | 13:52 |
| pitti | slomo, seb128: just to keep me up to date, is bug 412927 really "fix committed" still, or is that still pending on figuring out the regressions from that patch? | 13:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412927 in gst-plugins-base0.10 "Easy codec installation is not working" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412927 | 13:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can change it back to triaged | 13:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, it might not be done for karmic ... | 13:57 |
| Riddell | pitti: maybe, it's waiting on policykit-qt 1.0 I believe so that kpackagekit can use packagekit 0.5 | 13:57 |
| pitti | (ugh) | 13:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, slomo said it involves quite some refactoring | 13:57 |
| pitti | Riddell: ah, thanks | 13:57 |
| * asac lunch | 13:57 | |
| pitti | Riddell: is that just a question of getting an upstream release? | 13:58 |
| pitti | seb128: that woudl be a shame :-( | 13:59 |
| Riddell | pitti: upstream completing it and releasing yes | 13:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, don't tell me | 13:59 |
| pitti | seb128: I guess there's no option to rollback to jaunty's gstreamer? | 13:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, we could rollback to playbin1 | 13:59 |
| seb128 | but it would break playing of chained oggs again, etc | 13:59 |
| seb128 | and undo all the testing from this cycle | 14:00 |
| seb128 | and lot of good work, fixes and testing to use something deprecated for playing | 14:00 |
| seb128 | I don't think that's a good deal | 14:00 |
| pitti | well, "does not play at all" is not good either.. | 14:00 |
| pitti | and for most video formats, "does not play at all" is unfortunately the OOTB experience | 14:01 |
| seb128 | rock - -gstreamer - hard place? | 14:01 |
| pitti | something like this.. | 14:01 |
| seb128 | hey tedg | 14:01 |
| * mclasen would like a fix for that too... | 14:02 | |
| tedg | Good morning seb128 | 14:02 |
| seb128 | tedg, bug #427819 | 14:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427819 in indicator-applet "indicator-applet assert failure: ERROR:dbus-gproxy.c:2274:dbus_g_proxy_end_call_internal: assertion failed: (reply != NULL)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427819 | 14:02 |
| seb128 | tedg, I get the applet crashing every time I open or close evo | 14:02 |
| seb128 | tedg, let me know if you need details ;-) | 14:02 |
| pitti | seb128: would rolling back to playbin1 be a realistic option in terms of packaging, API transitions, etc.? | 14:03 |
| seb128 | mclasen, pitti: slomo said he was working on it but it's not trivial, will likely be after GNOME 2..28 | 14:03 |
| seb128 | could be in time for 2.28.1 though | 14:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, playbin1 is still there | 14:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, it would just change elements used by totem and rhythmbox to use it again | 14:03 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, so we wouldn't actually need to rollback gst, just change totem to use the old API again? | 14:04 |
| pitti | I see | 14:04 |
| seb128 | but that would mean reintroduce lot of issues and bugs just to workaround initial install not working | 14:04 |
| seb128 | ie "make the install work but then force users to use something buggy for ever" | 14:04 |
| pitti | seb128: I would just like to get a feeling about how much longer we can postpone that, i. e. until when we have the option of that rollback | 14:04 |
| seb128 | which I don't find a good deal | 14:04 |
| pitti | well, "forever" -> in karmic | 14:05 |
| pitti | people have used it in hardy/intrepid/jaunty, too | 14:05 |
| pitti | and at least they can play their stuff | 14:05 |
| seb128 | so you think initial codec install is more important than user experience with the software after that? | 14:05 |
| pitti | seb128: TBH yes; user experience with just a "unknown format" dialog is very bad.. | 14:05 |
| slomo | pitti, seb128: if you want to change totem to playbin1 again you could as well use totem 2.26... that's not trivial | 14:05 |
| seb128 | right, and they have been complaining about quite some issues, ie playing chained ogg stopping after each song | 14:05 |
| slomo | also i'll try to get a patch ready next week ;) | 14:06 |
| * pitti hugs slomo | 14:06 | |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm strongly against limiting experience in use for all user just to ease codec install | 14:06 |
| seb128 | it means all people having the codecs pay a cost for something they don't care | 14:07 |
| pitti | seb128: ok; well, to me, it's "limited playback" vs "no playback at all", but YMMV | 14:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, "no playback if you don't know how to install a codec" | 14:07 |
| seb128 | ie all users upgrading, etc would pay for no good reason | 14:07 |
| pitti | realistically, a default install can't play back any contemporary video format; few, if any, come as theora | 14:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, anyway let's try to make that work for karmic we still have time | 14:08 |
| pitti | *nod* | 14:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, but users do figure how to install codec, using the web if they need, and many upgrade and have those | 14:08 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks for the heads-up; I'm mainly interested to know the alternatives and the pro/con of them | 14:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, np, sorry for the disagreement but I'm pretty confident it will be fixed for karmic | 14:11 |
| pitti | seb128, asac: do you have an "executive summary" about the status and blockers of bug 401823? | 14:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 401823 in xlibs "(firefox:24993): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead - overeager XID caching" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401823 | 14:16 |
| pitti | unassigned karmic blocker, I need to find an assignee for those | 14:16 |
| seb128 | I don't | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | pitti, did you get my call? | 14:23 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I did; I accepted it, searched for my usb headset, plugged it in, and when I sat back down, empathy was gone | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:23 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I don't have the upnp thing yet | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | crash :/ | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | pitti, it is building in my ppa | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | mind if we test that in a bit? | 14:24 |
| pitti | kenvandine: tried to call you, just crashes, too | 14:24 |
| pitti | kenvandine: yes, let's test it | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | not crashing here | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | so testing with jcastro it disconnects instantly | 14:25 |
| pitti | kenvandine: that's with your new farsight? | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | but with others it just crashes their empathy :) | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | yes | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | it is building in my ppa now | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | pitti, i need to take an early lunch here in a few... mind if we try in like 2 hours? | 14:25 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I'll be in release team meeting then, but we can try afterwards | 14:25 |
| * kenvandine is convinced it is upnp and jcastro that is failing :) | 14:25 | |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:25 |
| pitti | kenvandine: or besides the meeting, after my part is done | 14:25 |
| kenvandine | just ping me when you are ready | 14:26 |
| pitti | kenvandine: this morning we got a new telepathy-farsight into karmic; installing that now | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | i will have bits to test :) | 14:26 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ~ken-vandine/+archive/ppa ? | 14:26 |
| pitti | or ubuntu-desktop or sth.? | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | mine | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | don't add that to your sources though :) | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | there is some junk there | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | just grab the debs | 14:27 |
| pitti | ok | 14:27 |
| pitti | asac: do you plan to upload a new NM 0.8 snapshot to karmic at some point? when? (asking about the polkit-1 migration) | 14:30 |
| pitti | kenvandine: do you have something on your radar which should be mentioned on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus ? | 14:31 |
| seb128 | tedg, did you read my bug? ;-) | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | tedg, i have the same bug seb128 has | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | pitti, nope | 14:32 |
| tedg | seb128: Yes, even switched it to the right project :) | 14:32 |
| seb128 | tedg, ok, let me know if you need details | 14:33 |
| tedg | seb128: I haven't looked into it further yet though, catching up on the mail all the Europeans send while I'm sleeping :) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, isn't the -proposed tag for -proposed uploads? | 14:36 |
| seb128 | pitti, you set that for the easy codec bug | 14:36 |
| asac | pitti: i can do that today. or monday (have a few fixes in pipeline that i would like to commit upstream for that). so if you want it today i can just upload | 14:39 |
| asac | pitti: re XID ... i have to admit that i have no real summary besides from what i mentioned in the bug comment | 14:40 |
| asac | i will try to get karlt on the line who might know some backgrounds | 14:40 |
| asac | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/401823/comments/4 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 401823 in xlibs "(firefox:24993): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead - overeager XID caching" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 14:41 |
| asac | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5/+bug/401823/comments/5 | 14:41 |
| asac | those comments are the current status | 14:41 |
| asac | i havent seen a proof of "those troubles ahead" | 14:41 |
| pitti | asac: ok, thanks | 14:41 |
| pitti | it didn't sound like OMGbreakseverythign | 14:41 |
| asac | but its not something i would like to hide | 14:41 |
| asac | before final | 14:42 |
| asac | yes | 14:42 |
| asac | but it could cause follow up crashes (rare?) | 14:42 |
| asac | from what i understand its becausee gdk overeagerly caches xid's | 14:42 |
| asac | and then things like flash et al that dont use the same gdk allocate the same XIDs | 14:42 |
| asac | have to get a fresh git gtk snapshot and will look a bit closer to the gdk code | 14:43 |
| asac | to refresh my memory on this | 14:43 |
| asac | mclasen: i guess you might know something too: how bad is: (firefox-3.5:14875): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead ? | 14:45 |
| rickspencer3 | asas ccheney ArneGoetje jcastro kenvandine pedro_ Riddell pitti : | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | good morning | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | anyone hear from bryce? | 14:46 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 14:46 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: no, nothing yet | 14:46 |
| rickspencer3 | I did! | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | It's a boy! | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | he says | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | His name is Dutch Alexander, he was born healthy and happy at 9:19pm on | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | 9/10. 6lbs 8oz. | 14:47 |
| rickspencer3 | !!! | 14:47 |
| pitti | yay! | 14:47 |
| pedro_ | \o/! super! | 14:47 |
| asac | nice | 14:47 |
| didrocks | sweet :) | 14:48 |
| kenvandine | woot | 14:50 |
| * kenvandine runs out for an early lunch break... be back in about an hour | 14:50 | |
| tseliot | rickspencer3: a boy? Wasn't it supposed to be a girl? (BTW the same thing happened when I was born) | 14:51 |
| rickspencer3 | tseliot, I dunno | 14:51 |
| Riddell | morning rickspencer3 | 14:57 |
| rickspencer3 | hi Riddell | 14:57 |
| Riddell | does this mean we'll have to compete with a screaming bairn to get our X bugs fixed? :) | 14:57 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, yes | 15:07 |
| rickspencer3 | a baby has a way of reseeting your priorities in a serious way | 15:07 |
| pitti | kenvandine: what do I need here (https://launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/+archive/ppa), farsight and libnice? | 15:13 |
| mvo | did I mention that compiz upstream is rocking currently? | 15:35 |
| mvo | fixes, fixes, its just great | 15:35 |
| seb128 | mvo, waouh | 15:36 |
| seb128 | mvo, what happened to your upload? | 15:37 |
| mvo | seb128: postponed because *more* fixes are on the way | 15:37 |
| mvo | maybe I upload anyway | 15:37 |
| mvo | and just push them tomorrow | 15:37 |
| * mvo wants icecream first :) | 15:37 | |
| seb128 | if you wait for it to be perfect you will never upload | 15:37 |
| mvo | good point | 15:37 |
| seb128 | ice cream, hum ;-) | 15:37 |
| seb128 | lucky you! | 15:37 |
| seb128 | enjoy ;-) | 15:38 |
| mvo | well, I need to go out and get it first, but its so nice outside, that I totally want to do that now :) | 15:38 |
| asac | have a great weekend everyone! | 15:39 |
| pitti | see you asac | 15:41 |
| mvo | you too asac | 15:42 |
| seb128 | asac, hum, now firefox disabled greasemonkey! | 15:47 |
| pitti | mvo: lucky you, it's quite cold here (18 degrees) | 15:48 |
| seb128 | saying it's not compatible with 3.5.3 | 15:48 |
| kenvandine | pitti, yes | 15:53 |
| pitti | kenvandine: meeting now; I installed the crack, can I ping you when I have enough spare cycles from teh meeting? | 15:57 |
| kenvandine | sure | 15:58 |
| pitti | kenvandine: hm, there goes apport again | 16:01 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I called you, then you called me | 16:01 |
| dashua | mvo, Latest compiz uploads r0x. There are no more artifacts between menubar and the metacity on wobbly :) | 16:01 |
| dashua | Still testing them out. | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | i didn't see the dialog | 16:01 |
| pitti | kenvandine: it's not even apport, it's just 100% CPU and frozen | 16:01 |
| kenvandine | pitti, are you back to a functioning state? | 16:02 |
| pitti | kenvandine: restarted | 16:02 |
| pitti | kenvandine: it didn't freeze this time | 16:02 |
| pitti | kenvandine: say something | 16:02 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I can hear you | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | mine says "Connecting" | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | oh | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | cool | 16:03 |
| pitti | but through the loudspeakers | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:03 |
| * pitti fiddles headphone | 16:03 | |
| kenvandine | i don't hear you | 16:03 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I can hear you | 16:03 |
| kenvandine | that is progress :) | 16:03 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I switched mike to usb, but still nothing | 16:03 |
| pitti | kenvandine: let's continue later, meeting time | 16:04 |
| pitti | kenvandine: heh, hanging up -> frozen again | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | pitti, when we test again, run empathy with this command | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | EMPATHY_LOGFILE=/tmp/empathy.log GST_DEBUG=\*fsrtp\*:5 EMPATHY_DEBUG=all empathy | 16:06 |
| NCommander | pitti, ping, your last patch broke the armel build of glib :-/. Any ideas whats wrong with it? | 16:52 |
| * NCommander is just looking at it now | 16:52 | |
| pitti | NCommander: we just discussed it in #u-meeting | 16:53 |
| pitti | NCommander: just fix glibc to build, then we can retry glib | 16:53 |
| NCommander | oh, sorry, missed that bit | 16:53 |
| pitti | NCommander: alternatively, we can drop --enable-assert-messages on armel, but then again, glibc really should build either way :) | 16:53 |
| pitti | NCommander: lool is at fixing glibc ATM | 16:54 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ok, whatever you did now crashed empathy | 17:03 |
| kenvandine | pitti, ok... so voice works :) | 17:03 |
| kenvandine | did you get a X error? | 17:03 |
| pitti | kenvandiempathy: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :2.0. | 17:03 |
| pitti | ^ last line in /tmp/empathy.log | 17:04 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:04 |
| kenvandine | yeah... i think it might be a compiz bug | 17:04 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|capoeira | ||
| kenvandine | pitti, but this is good progress :) | 17:04 |
| lool | pitti: I handed doko the fix; I cant upload since he did some unuploaded changes as a new revision so I think he's testing them and I dont want to wait on a rebuild; also I cant push to the eglibc bzr but that's minor | 17:05 |
| lool | pitti: You might want to add a versionned libc-dev bdep in glib as time permits though | 17:06 |
| pitti | lool: does the FTBFS break anything on arm? | 17:08 |
| pitti | lool: if so, I'll just change it to disable the new feature on armel | 17:08 |
| kenvandine | pitti, ok... not compiz :) | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | pitti, progress though :) | 17:09 |
| lool | pitti: It breaks the image builds | 17:10 |
| pitti | kenvandine: absolutely | 17:10 |
| kenvandine | pitti, so i think libnice and farsight2 with gupnp is worth it :) | 17:10 |
| kenvandine | next to fix the video problem | 17:10 |
| pitti | kenvandine: gupnp> ++ | 17:11 |
| rugby471 | hello | 17:12 |
| mvo | dashua: great to hear that compiz is fixing these issues - I will do a karmic upload RSN | 17:12 |
| pitti | kenvandine: mind writing a MIR for gupnp, so that I can approve it? | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | pitti, i will post the the debdiff | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | yes | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | will do | 17:13 |
| pitti | kenvandine: cool, I'll sponsor; thanks | 17:13 |
| seb128 | pedro_, do you have a bug you use to duplicate all those sudo nautilus crashes? | 17:15 |
| pedro_ | seb128, the memory corruption ones? I've marking those as dup of bug 420841 | 17:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 420841 in brasero "karmic nautilus fails to run as root " [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420841 | 17:20 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:20 |
| seb128 | so you think it's not a nautilus issue? | 17:20 |
| pedro_ | seems to be a brasero nautilus extension one | 17:21 |
| seb128 | ok, you are right | 17:21 |
| pedro_ | will send that upstream wonder why i didn't previously | 17:22 |
| pedro_ | probably too much bug mail there | 17:22 |
| seb128 | ok, that keeps coming | 17:22 |
| rugby471 | mpt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-store/+bug/427346 | 17:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427346 in software-store "architecture support not there (regression to g-a-i)" [High,Triaged] | 17:29 |
| rugby471 | how do we want to tackle this bug, not display it or just gray it out etc. | 17:29 |
| rugby471 | mvo: ^ are you working on this? otherwise I shall take it up | 17:29 |
| mpt | rugby471, I think greying it out would be the most understandable way of handling it without adding any new strings | 17:30 |
| rugby471 | mpt: ok, so do we want the item in the department list grayed out? | 17:30 |
| mpt | rugby471, yes | 17:30 |
| rugby471 | mpt: and no text? | 17:30 |
| rugby471 | mpt: we could have something like: this is not supported by your processor type | 17:31 |
| mvo | rugby471: no, fixing that would be great | 17:31 |
| rugby471 | ok | 17:31 |
| mpt | rugby471, as I understand it, we can't add new text, we're past UI freeze | 17:31 |
| rugby471 | oh | 17:31 |
| rugby471 | well there we go :-) | 17:31 |
| rugby471 | mvo: can we not add new strings? | 17:31 |
| mvo | mpt: I think your idea of using the g-a-i strings is a good one | 17:31 |
| mvo | rugby471: we should avoid it really hard, but if we can use the ones in g-a-i I think we are ok, its just a bit of work to mnually merge them and the translations | 17:32 |
| rugby471 | ok | 17:32 |
| mvo | its a pretty anoying bug | 17:32 |
| mvo | IMO | 17:32 |
| rugby471 | I shall hold off on the strings at the moment then | 17:32 |
| rugby471 | just the graying out :-) | 17:32 |
| * mvo nods | 17:34 | |
| pitti | seb128: sabayon was removed from Debian, with "ROM; almost completely broken"; should we follow suit? | 17:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, not sure, I think edubuntu uses it and it got updates in karmic | 17:36 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, thanks | 17:36 |
| seb128 | asac, want to sponsor bug #427665? | 17:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427665 in gnome-bluetooth "Update to 2.27.90" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427665 | 17:45 |
| tedg | seb128: Can you try lp:~ted/dbusmenu/427819 to see if it fixes that bug? It removes a small feature, but it shouldn't be one that we need. I think that dbus-glib is broken here. | 17:57 |
| seb128 | tedg, what do I need to restart? | 17:58 |
| tedg | seb128: You said the bug was happening at login? | 17:58 |
| seb128 | no, it happens every time I start evo | 17:59 |
| seb128 | or close evo | 17:59 |
| tedg | seb128: Then killall indicator-applet | 17:59 |
| seb128 | tedg, lp:~ted/dbusmenu/427819 not working | 18:00 |
| tedg | seb128: Still crashing? Or something doesn't work? | 18:00 |
| seb128 | bzr complains about lp:~ted/dbusmenu/427819 | 18:01 |
| seb128 | ie bzr get lp:~ted/dbusmenu/427819 doesn't work | 18:01 |
| tedg | seb128: heh, oh. Maybe LP hasn't saved it yet. | 18:01 |
| pitti | have a good weenend everyone! | 18:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, you too! | 18:02 |
| seb128 | tedg, I'm off for dinner will still build try and let you know after dinner | 18:03 |
| tedg | seb128: Cool, thanks! | 18:03 |
| didrocks | have a good weekend pitti! | 18:04 |
| didrocks | and a good dinner for seb128 :) | 18:04 |
| rugby471 | mvo: how does the appdetailsview change colour for the installed and not installed items? | 18:05 |
| rugby471 | mvo: ah don't worry I see :-) | 18:06 |
| c_korn | tedg: thanks for merging my branch and releasing the new version. does the gconf key need to be documented somewhere ? or are experts expected to find it themselves ? :) | 18:07 |
| tedg | c_korn: They're defined as experts :) | 18:07 |
| tedg | c_korn: Seems like a good idea, but I'm not sure where to put it.... | 18:08 |
| kklimonda | pitti: how strict is UI freeze and how hard would it be to get an exception for a new dialog window and a donate button in help menu for transmission? | 18:10 |
| c_korn | tedg: hm, neither do I. so I think my work is finished so far. | 18:10 |
| aquarius | is software-store able to run uninstalled? (i.e., out of the source tree?) | 18:22 |
| aquarius | when I try I get xapian.DatabaseOpeningError: Couldn't detect type of database, which might mean that I need to create a database or something. | 18:23 |
| rugby471 | mvo: I am trying to do the arch thing now | 18:25 |
| mvo | rugby471: ok, let me know if you have any questions, do you know the details? there should be just a check, if the package is not in the aptcache then it should check if its supposed to be available or not | 18:29 |
| rugby471 | mvo: is the place I need to be check for the arch in appview.py (as you have moved some stuff into seperate widgets) | 18:29 |
| rugby471 | check > checking | 18:30 |
| aquarius | ah, it tries to make /var/cache/software-store/xapian a xapian database, and that folder doesn't exist. Does that mean that software-store expects to be run once installed, and won't run uninstalled? | 18:30 |
| mvo | aquarius: it currently runs not great uninstalled, it complains about missing icons too | 18:31 |
| mvo | aquarius: once the version from the archive is installed it will run just fine out of the bzr tree | 18:31 |
| mvo | aquarius: its something I would like to fix at some point though | 18:32 |
| aquarius | mvo, can I just poke softwarestore.enums to point at locally-writeable folders (which I will happily submit a patch for) or is there likely to be loads of stuff which assumes that it is Master Of Everything and can write in /var and so on? :) | 18:32 |
| rugby471 | mvo: I shall try my hand at an easier bug, however i have fixed a medium priority bug in my branch, could you merge? | 18:33 |
| mvo | aquarius: we could just add --cachedir as a commandline option - I would be happy to merge such a patch | 18:33 |
| mvo | rugby471: sure | 18:34 |
| rugby471 | mvo:thx | 18:34 |
| mvo | aquarius: I think its just the cache that is in /var and some icons loading, but that is a matter of "try: except glib.GError: pass ;) | 18:34 |
| mvo | aquarius: and of course the ugliness that there are no icons then | 18:34 |
| mvo | :) | 18:34 |
| * aquarius grins | 18:34 | |
| aquarius | I'll take a look at it :) | 18:34 |
| mvo | maybe a additional explicit --datadir in the commandline | 18:35 |
| mvo | (seperate from --cachedir) | 18:35 |
| mvo | rugby471: is it pushed yet? bzr just said "nothing to do" | 18:36 |
| mvo | (or maybe LP is a bit on the slow side today ;) | 18:36 |
| rugby471 | mvo: yeah it is slow, the launchpad page still says 'Updating branch...' | 18:37 |
| rugby471 | https://code.launchpad.net/~rugby471/software-store/software-store-andrew | 18:37 |
| rugby471 | aquarius: it should be easy, just add another switch in ./software-store, we are using optparse | 18:38 |
| * aquarius nods, yep | 18:38 | |
| aquarius | just noticed that myself :) | 18:38 |
| rugby471 | mvo: I no longer experience https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-store/+bug/419740, can I close it? | 18:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 419740 in software-store "search bar consistently loses focus" [Medium,Triaged] | 18:38 |
| rugby471 | aquarius: hehe | 18:38 |
| aquarius | I assume you're in favour of explicit "pass a --datadir" rather than semi-magical "am I in the source tree? yes? brilliant, I'll use this different set of data files" code? | 18:39 |
| rugby471 | mvo: what I mean is do you still experience it :-) | 18:39 |
| mvo | rugby471: yeah, someone will reopen if it happens again | 18:39 |
| rugby471 | mvo: kl | 18:39 |
| mvo | rugby471: no, haven't had it recently, many think | 18:39 |
| mvo | thanks | 18:39 |
| mvo | rugby471: what bug should I close with the merge? | 18:39 |
| rugby471 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-store/+bug/425859 | 18:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 425859 in software-store "Progress cricle still displayed after screenshot has loaded" [Medium,Fix committed] | 18:40 |
| rugby471 | mvo: ^ | 18:40 |
| mvo | thanks | 18:40 |
| rugby471 | mvo: np, how is the apt.ubuntu.com progressing? | 18:42 |
| rugby471 | mvo: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-store/+bug/427568 fixed? | 18:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427568 in software-store "Please sort programs in a locale-friendly way" [Low,Confirmed] | 18:45 |
| mvo | loclae-friendly sorting should be fix-commited | 18:46 |
| rugby471 | mvo: kl | 18:46 |
| mvo | rugby471: your fix works nicely, commited | 18:47 |
| rugby471 | mvo: thanks | 18:47 |
| mvo | sounds like its time for another upload soon ;) | 18:48 |
| rugby471 | mvo: hehe | 18:49 |
| rugby471 | mvo: wait one min and I might have one more fix | 18:52 |
| rugby471 | mvo: ah nope don't worry | 18:52 |
| rugby471 | mvo: I misunderstood the bug | 18:52 |
| mvo | sure, I can bit a bit longer | 18:52 |
| mvo | no problem | 18:52 |
| rugby471 | mvo: go ahead :-) | 18:52 |
| aquarius | OK, given my no knowledge of xapian -- is the xapian database in /var/cache/software-store/xapian expected to already exist? i.e., it is not created by the software-store program itself? | 18:58 |
| rugby471 | mvo: gotta go now | 18:58 |
| rugby471 | mvo: see ya | 18:59 |
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| mvo | aquarius: its run when the package gets installed, the script is in utils/update-software-store | 19:03 |
| mvo | aquarius: it would be cool if the app itself checks if it can create the db when a alternative --cachedir is given | 19:04 |
| aquarius | cool :) | 19:04 |
| mvo | so that it runs full from a bzr checkout without any need of local install | 19:04 |
| aquarius | exactly what I'm trying to make it do :) | 19:04 |
| mvo | cool | 19:10 |
| * aquarius pushes lp:~sil/software-store/run-uninstalled | 19:37 | |
| aquarius | mvo, how are you software-store guys handling patches? Should I propose for merging into trunk, or do you do things another way? | 19:37 |
| mvo | aquarius: proposing via the web-ui is fine, or just mentioning it on irc | 19:38 |
| mvo | its still a small project :) | 19:38 |
| * aquarius grins | 19:38 | |
| * aquarius mentions it on irc ;) | 19:38 | |
| mvo | what is the branch url? | 19:38 |
| aquarius | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/software-store/run-uninstalled | 19:39 |
| aquarius | I don't know whether it does everything that's required, specifically because I don't really understand xapian, so atm it doesn't actually show any packages inside each department. | 19:39 |
| aquarius | on the other hand that's better than a traceback :P | 19:39 |
| mvo | that sounds like its not quite there yet ;) | 19:40 |
| mvo | better than a traceback for sure | 19:40 |
| * mvo looks at the branch | 19:40 | |
| aquarius | I agree it's not quite there yet, but I need to be schooled in xapian. :) | 19:41 |
| mvo | aquarius: hm, the diff looks right, its probably/hopefully something really trivial | 19:45 |
| * mvo looks a bit sharper | 19:45 | |
| aquarius | I am 82% sure that the problem is that I'm not populating the xapian database right, and therefore it gets no results. | 19:53 |
| mvo | aquarius: I got it mostly working I think, it needs some love because of apt is a system package and a sub-package in software-store (or either relative imports or rename) | 19:53 |
| aquarius | python -c "import xapian; d=xapian.Database('data/xapian'); enq=xapian.Enquire(d); print [x for x in enq.get_mset(0, 20)]" | 19:54 |
| aquarius | [] | 19:54 |
| aquarius | ah, that's weird. When I ran it the first time it complained about apt not having a sub-package Cache, and when I ran it the second time it didn't complain so I thought it was cosmic rays or something :) | 19:54 |
| mvo | I renamed data=APP_INSTALL_PATH to desktopdir (and the same two lines below) | 19:54 |
| mvo | haha | 19:55 |
| mvo | funny, I have not tried running it twice :P | 19:55 |
| mvo | next thing is to figure out how to flush the WriteableDatabase | 19:55 |
| mvo | before the other one opens the data again | 19:55 |
| mvo | flush() | 19:55 |
| mvo | hm, that is easy | 19:56 |
| aquarius | I was worried that would be it. I thought to myself: I wonder if I'm allowed to re-open an open db? :) | 19:56 |
| aquarius | .flush? that's it? | 19:56 |
| mvo | yeah, that seems to help | 19:56 |
| mvo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/269348/ is what I did | 19:59 |
| mvo | I just need to learn a bit more about relative imports, I guess it makes sense to either use them everywhere or nowhere | 19:59 |
| aquarius | in ubuntu one we had a big argument about it and decided to not use them | 20:00 |
| aquarius | which is good, because it meant that I didn't have to learn about them ;-) | 20:00 |
| aquarius | yeah!!! | 20:03 |
| aquarius | victory. | 20:03 |
| mvo | haha | 20:03 |
| mvo | I will just rename apt then | 20:03 |
| aquarius | well, it's pushed with the relative imports in | 20:03 |
| aquarius | you violated the Big Important Rule, which is: never name any Python module the same as a system module, or you'll spend a hundred years trying to work out what the problem is :) | 20:04 |
| aquarius | right, now to do what I actually intended to do, which is disable the install button while something installs. And then go to the pub. :) | 20:05 |
| mvo | :) | 20:06 |
| mvo | cool | 20:06 |
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| * aquarius grumbles. You can't pass arbitrary parameters to an AptTransaction's exit_handler | 20:22 | |
| aquarius | if the right way to do this is to allow that, which it is, then I have to patch aptdaemon, which is not happening at 8.30pm on a Friday :) | 20:23 |
| seb128 | tedg, re | 20:24 |
| seb128 | tedg, the update doesn't crash indeed | 20:25 |
| tedg | seb128: Woot! | 20:26 |
| tedg | seb128: Does it work? :) | 20:26 |
| seb128 | it seems | 20:26 |
| seb128 | not sure what it could break | 20:26 |
| * tedg was waiting for a "it doesn't crash, but my cat is dead" :) | 20:26 | |
| seb128 | the indicator lists the same things | 20:27 |
| seb128 | and clicking on those work the same way | 20:27 |
| seb128 | no, it seems to work and my cat is good shape too ;-) | 20:27 |
| tedg | Sounds good. Odd that you entered that case and I didn't. | 20:27 |
| seb128 | +in | 20:27 |
| seb128 | dunno what triggers it | 20:27 |
| seb128 | I get it on both my desktop and laptop configs | 20:27 |
| seb128 | anyway good to see it fixed | 20:28 |
| seb128 | that's not a major issue, just an applet which reloads fine so it will wait next week | 20:29 |
| seb128 | I'm going back to my friday evening | 20:29 |
| seb128 | have a good weekend everybody | 20:29 |
| tedg | Cool, I put it into trunk. So it'll get in the release. | 20:29 |
| tedg | seb128: Have a good weekend! | 20:29 |
| seb128 | tedg, thanks, you too ;-) | 20:29 |
| === MacSlow|capoeira is now known as MacSlow | ||
| aquarius | wtf? the display of an app is a totally from-scratch webkit view? grr. | 20:35 |
| aquarius | right, I don't know anything about wkwidget, so it can wait until later this weekend :) | 20:39 |
| aquarius | mvo, do I need to propose that run-uninstalled branch for merging, or is it now on your list to do anyway? | 20:46 |
| darkham | how many possibilities i've to finde some of the new themes in karmic daily? | 20:56 |
| darkham | someone? | 21:18 |
| seb128 | see you later! | 21:22 |
| mac_v | !topic | darkham | 21:40 |
| ubottu | darkham: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 21:40 |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
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