[04:50] <shtylman> cjwatson_: I just pushed a branch to lp:~shtylman/ubiquity/kubuntu-installer-style it contains the new package .install file and updates to make things work with that package. I don't really know what the policy is for new packages after freeze so I didn't merge myself. This package was requested by anothr kubuntu developer as they are using only the style elements in another installer
[04:53] <rgreening> hey shtylman
[04:54] <shtylman> rgreening: howdy
[04:54] <rgreening> does the installer have the slideshow now too? :P
[04:54] <shtylman> rgreening: working on it
[04:54] <rgreening> kool
[04:54] <shtylman> trying to get the slide content down
[04:55] <rgreening> excelent
[04:55] <rgreening> did you look into the slowness issue
[04:56] <rgreening> in loading the timezoe, the app paused and seemed hung shtylman
[04:56] <rgreening> havent tried it in the last few days though...
[04:56] <shtylman> not yet...I did run the installer and didn't really notice anything wrong myself...but I will try to run it in a vm with low memory and speed
[04:56] <shtylman> and see if that shows anything
[04:57] <rgreening> shtylman: try from a usb stick
[04:57] <rgreening> shtylman: I was doing this on my netbook 1ghz and 1gb ram and 2gb swap
[04:57] <rgreening> and a SSD
[04:58] <shtylman> damn
[04:58] <shtylman> ok..I will see if I can set that up
[04:58] <rgreening> lol. I'll try it again tommorrow. Is there some debug info or log info you would like me to capture?
[04:59] <shtylman> um...see if /var/log/installer/debug has anything interesting or noteworthy...
[04:59] <rgreening> ok
[04:59] <shtylman> thanks :)
[04:59] <rgreening> btw, it all looks pretty slick shtylman
[04:59] <rgreening> :P
[04:59] <shtylman> :)
[09:44]  * evand stabs devicekit-disks repeatedly
[10:03] <cjwatson> danilos: just one more question about this translation upload from debian-installer to ubiquity - what will happen if there are old translations in debian-installer, but people have already updated the translations in ubiquity? which will win?
[10:03] <cjwatson> danilos: and is there anything I can do about this?
[10:07] <danilos> cjwatson: it depends
[10:07] <danilos> cjwatson: LP has complicated rules for that
[10:08] <danilos> cjwatson: if ubiquity translation was provided through Launchpad when there was no previous imported translation, when you upload debian-installer translation, debian-installer translation wins
[10:09] <danilos> cjwatson: if there was an ubiquity translation which overrides already imported translation, the existing one in LP wins
[10:10] <cjwatson> should I perhaps manually merge the ubiquity translations before uploading?
[10:10] <cjwatson> I think in general the ubiquity translations ought to win
[10:13] <davmor2> evand: I'm taking a pot shot guess here at the fact your not liking devicekit-disks something to do with usb creator?
[10:15] <evand> yeah, formatting
[10:22] <davmor2> evand: can you not use the format tool that is already in place.   If you right click the icon on the desktop you can select format now?
[10:22] <evand> no, it's not that simple
[10:23] <davmor2> evand: Why?
[10:24] <evand> I'm starting off with the same basic method as that code, but I then need to immediately write a partition table, partition, and filesystem to the disk, and devkit isn't updating its view of the disk quickly enough
[10:36] <davmor2> evand: ah that's a bit of a bummer.
[10:38] <cjwatson> danilos: ^- just highlighting in case you didn't see my questions above ...
[10:44] <danilos> cjwatson: right, thanks, that helps :)
[10:44] <danilos> cjwatson: yeah, you can merge them if you want to be certain
[10:44] <cjwatson> ok, I think I'll do that then
[10:45] <danilos> cjwatson: basically, that's the behaviour LP used to have (i.e. LP translations always won), but due to repeated requests from translators working in both upstream and ubuntu translation teams, we've changed it (and I believe it works better for everything but a few cases like we've got here)
[10:45] <cjwatson> yeaah
[10:45] <cjwatson> -a
[11:13] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3440 ubiquity/debian/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[11:20] <cjwatson> danilos: ok, thanks. Uploaded now and we'll see how it works out ...
[11:20] <cjwatson> oh, bah, maybe not
[11:20] <danilos> cjwatson: what's going on?
[11:20] <cjwatson> danilos: lp-translations-tools-upload says "Warning: Transient problem: HTTP error"
[11:20] <cjwatson> (repeatedly)
[11:21] <cjwatson> danilos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269062/
[11:22] <cjwatson> hmm, maybe I need to re-login
[11:22] <danilos> cjwatson: perhaps
[11:22] <danilos> cjwatson: also, note that our import queue is halted again (we've had some critical issue last night, we need to figure out what's going on)
[11:24] <cjwatson> ah, not logged in, my cookie must have expired
[11:26] <cjwatson> danilos: there we go, much better, sorry to bother you
[11:26] <danilos> cjwatson: not at all, happy to see it working :)
[11:26] <danilos> cjwatson: also, we sometime trash the session database when we have a problem with it (I know we did it something like ~1 month ago or so)
[11:28] <cjwatson> yeah, I think that was it
[11:28] <cjwatson> I'll go ahead and upload new debian-installer content as well now, then
[11:47] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3441 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/partman.py): Fix method name to allow page changing in partitioner (LP: #427347).
[11:51] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3442 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity debian/changelog):
[11:51] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Fix oem-config crash if the KDE frontend is detected, due to trying to
[11:51] <CIA-33> ubiquity: delete UBIQUITY_MIGRATION_ASSISTANT from the environment when it's not
[11:51] <CIA-33> ubiquity: there (LP: #414854).
[12:20] <cjwatson> evand: I narrowed down bug 425011 a bit
[12:21] <evand> ah, good deal
[12:22] <cjwatson> I was wondering if build_shortlist_region_pairs should use debian-installer/country if there's no shortlist, or something
[12:22] <cjwatson> although of course we should also disable Forward unless a region/zone is selected to avoid the crash
[12:24]  * evand digs
[12:29] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3443 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog):
[12:29] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Stop ubiquity-dm crashing if a process it's trying to kill doesn't exist
[12:29] <CIA-33> ubiquity: (LP: #423700).
[12:38] <cjwatson> BTW we ought to have a ubiquity upload at some point today as the manual partitioning regression (427347) was pretty serious
[12:40] <evand> absolutely
[13:02] <cody-somerville> cjwatson, Do you know if its possible to mount the install media via NFS? If not, would it be appropriate for cdrom-detect to grow that functionality?
[13:02] <cjwatson> no and no
[13:02] <cjwatson> it's been on the wishlist forever to write an NFS retriever
[13:02] <ogra> cody-somerville, why dont you use netinst and http ?
[13:02] <cjwatson> but it doesn't belong in cdrom-detect
[13:03] <cjwatson> (imo, anyway)
[13:04] <cody-somerville> ogra, because I want the full power of the installer - some udebs rely on the files from the installation media being present.
[13:05] <ogra> hmm, wouldnt the mini.iso solve that (not sure we build that though)
[13:07] <cody-somerville> Yes. That could be used to solve that but I'd like to be able to net boot the solution as well
[13:07] <cody-somerville> Basically, the idea is to be able to perform a normal install like you had local install media without the install media actually being local.
[13:08] <cjwatson> it would fit better into d-i's design to treat the NFS-mounted thing as a mirror rather than as CD media
[13:08] <cjwatson> if nothing else because the network is typically not up yet when cdrom-detect is run
[13:09] <cjwatson> that would make it a relatively simple matter of writing an analogue to net-retriever (or possibly even extending net-retriever), and patching a few things like choose-mirror and such that only expect ftp/http for mirrors
[13:09] <cjwatson> if that were done well we'd take it upstream
[13:09] <cody-somerville> But a mirror does not contain the same files - for example, it doesn't have the live system's squashfs.
[13:10] <cjwatson> I'm sorry that you chose to use a crazy design O:-)
[13:10] <cjwatson> network access just won't fit into cdrom-detect
[13:11]  * cody-somerville nods.
[13:11] <cody-somerville> Thats understandable.
[13:11] <cjwatson> if you really want to NFS-mount something on /cdrom, it'd have to be a separate component that could go in the netboot initrd
[13:11]  * cody-somerville nods.
[13:11] <cjwatson> nfs-detect would be fine I guess
[13:11] <cjwatson> less upstreamable, though
[13:12] <cjwatson> maybe not "-detect", I guess you can't detect this in any reasonable way, it has to be a question
[13:12] <cjwatson> you could ask the Debian Live people if they've thought about this
[13:14]  * cody-somerville nods.
[13:16] <cody-somerville> Booting a live system and using ubiquity would be pretty easy using nfsroot, eh?
[13:17] <cjwatson> should be, modulo casper bugs - it does at least theoretically support it
[13:17] <cjwatson> not often tested of course
[13:30] <CIA-33> partman-auto-loop: cjwatson * r50 ubuntu/.bzrignore: update ignores
[13:30] <xivulon> hi cjwatson your script looks mostly fine (thanks)
[13:31] <xivulon> not sure you need the loopback/set root in there
[13:31] <xivulon> also shouldn't it be "lupin_entry" in line 124? (sorry cannot test it now)
[13:31] <cjwatson> yeah, it should, thanks
[13:32] <cjwatson> why wouldn't I need loopback/set root?
[13:33] <cjwatson> gotta read the kernel/initrd somehow
[13:33] <xivulon> because root will already be set by the embedded cfg, otherwise I wouldn't even be able to read the linux side cfg
[13:34] <cjwatson> ah, so we put the loopback/set root there?
[13:34] <xivulon> well it has to be there anyway, you can put it also in the main one, but it does not add anything
[13:35] <cjwatson> yeah
[13:35] <cjwatson> we'll need to take some care to avoid root getting overwritten by the standard configuration stuff though
[13:35] <cjwatson> not entirely trivial
[13:36] <cjwatson> so wubildr.cfg would look a bit like http://paste.ubuntu.com/269136/
[13:39] <cjwatson> maybe we need to extend prepare_grub_to_access_device to avoid problems later
[13:40] <xivulon> yes that is similar to what I have in my local branch, /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/grub.cfg can probably stay, that one loads the ISO for unattended installation, there is no /ubuntu/install/root.disk
[13:40] <cjwatson> ah
[13:41] <cjwatson> I'm putting together a grub2 upload at the moment; needs some more testing of my timeout changes though
[13:41] <cjwatson> I'm including the 64-bit NTFS and loopback/root fixes
[13:42] <xivulon> if you have them in your ppa I can test them tonight
[13:47] <cjwatson> I don't, but I hope to have them in the archive tonight
[14:12] <xivulon> fantastic!
[16:10] <davmor2> evand, shtylman: on kubuntu Live I have enabled the encrypted Home Partition.  I get a light bulb icon on the taskbar.  When I click on it I get the "Record your encrypted passphrase" however when I click on Run this action now all I get is a root terminal by the look of it.
[16:16] <evand> davmor2: please file a bug on ecryptfs-utils
[16:16] <davmor2> evand: No Probs
[16:41] <davmor2> evand: don't worry it's me.  The text box explains what to do it's just it got covered by the terminal window.
[16:41] <evand> okay
[17:00] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3444 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-timezone.py):
[17:00] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Don't let the user proceed past the timezone page until a selection has
[17:00] <CIA-33> ubiquity: been made (LP 425011).
[17:00] <evand> still trying to work out the rest
[17:01] <cjwatson> cool, thanks
[17:01] <cjwatson> you weren't intending that changelog to close the bug?
[17:01] <evand> correct
[17:01] <evand> I thought the proper solution was to actually select Warsaw automatically
[17:02] <cjwatson> yeah
[17:02] <evand> I'll be around for a few hours tonight.  If I can't figure it out by the time I have to scurry, I'll release what we have.
[17:03] <cjwatson> ta
[17:59] <diogo_79> hi guys
[17:59] <diogo_79> i am trying to install ubuntu in raid0 mode
[17:59] <diogo_79> can some one help me
[18:00] <diogo_79> i have create the raid0 with an alternate disk
[18:00] <diogo_79> but the boot loader is not install
[18:00] <diogo_79> and i dont know hbow to install
[18:02] <diogo_79> any one?
[18:09] <diogo_79> anyone?
[18:13] <CIA-33> ubiquity: jriddell * r3445 trunk/ (bin/ubiquity-wrapper debian/changelog): Update path to kdesu in ubiquity-wrapper
[18:29] <diogo_79> anyone?
[18:39] <cjwatson> diogo_79: sorry, it's the end of my day's work and I don't really have time to dive into this now - please see the topic for what to do when you don't get a response (the answer is not to repeat your question)
[18:40] <cjwatson> diogo_79: you will need to include full installation logs (syslog and partman) for anyone to be able to help
[19:16] <rgreening> hey evand, how goes policykit in usb-creator and the format backend issue?
[19:17] <evand> rgreening: I've been working on the format issue most of the day
[19:17] <evand> one bug fixed
[19:17] <evand> in devicekit
[19:17] <evand> working on another
[19:17] <rgreening> awesome
[19:18] <rgreening> I'm waiting for pitti (or someone) to look at my intltool/python-distutils-extra bug so we can get translations working for KDE front-end.
[19:18] <rgreening> so, we are getting pretty close to a finished product
[19:19] <evand> wonderful
[19:19] <evand> go team
[19:25] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3446 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[19:25] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: partman-auto
[19:25] <CIA-33> ubiquity: 89ubuntu1, partman-partitioning 71ubuntu1.
[19:26] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3447 ubiquity/debian/real-po/ (81 files): debconf-updatepo
[19:26] <rgreening> hehe
[19:38] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3448 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.99.18
[22:01] <CIA-33> usb-creator: rgreening * r176 trunk/usbcreator/ (backends/base/backend.py misc.py): * Enforce a MAX_PERSISTENCE of 4GB, otherwise dd fails tring to create a file > 4GB
[22:02] <CIA-33> usb-creator: rgreening * r177 trunk/debian/changelog: * Update changelog
[23:02] <xivulon> cjwatson will the packages be available soon?