[01:22] <LLStarks> asac. what's the best way to find when and how a change landed in the 1.9.2 branch?
[01:23] <fta> hg blame your/file
[01:23] <fta> or http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.2/
[01:24] <micahg> fta: what do I need to look for in the .rej file?
[01:25] <fta> micahg, it's the part of the original patch that was rejected and that you need to re-add, or drop if it's no longer needed
[01:25] <micahg> well, I'm looking at the file and I can't see what's wrong
[01:26] <fta> often, it's just that the context of the patch changed, so just re-add the changes manually, and quilt refresh afterwards
[01:28] <micahg> fta: would whitespace mess up a patch?
[01:28] <fta> yes, everything different will
[01:28] <LLStarks> fta, this is so frustrating. i know that a trough-border issue was resolved between firefox 3.5.4 and 3.6a1
[01:28] <LLStarks> but i can't drill it down any further
[01:29] <micahg> LLStarks: those releases are not contiguous
[01:29] <LLStarks> i know
[01:29] <LLStarks> but between those branchings
[01:30] <LLStarks> would it be mozilla-central or mozilla-1.9.2?
[01:32] <micahg> 3.6a1 would be mozilla-1.9.2
[01:32] <micahg> mozilla-central is 3.7
[01:32] <LLStarks> well, if the fixed behavior is present in both, where did it originate?
[01:33] <micahg> in both what/
[01:34] <LLStarks> the bug is fixed in both
[01:35] <LLStarks> yet i can't find the commit that fixed the bug
[01:39] <micahg> well
[01:39] <micahg> it depends when it was fixed
[01:39] <micahg> if it was after the branch, it landed in 3.7 first
[01:39] <micahg> before they were the same
[01:39] <micahg> in mxr.mozilla.org, you can search for files and then see who committed what revision
[01:41] <LLStarks> it's fixed in 3.6a1
[01:41] <LLStarks> i'm not sure how much earlier though
[01:44] <micahg> LLStarks: maybe search bugzilla for the bug and see the changeset
[01:45] <LLStarks> my bug is the only relevant one
[01:45] <micahg> why are you looking for it?
[01:45] <LLStarks> to have the fix backported for karmic
[01:46] <LLStarks> the art team wants it
[01:46] <micahg> do you have the bug number for bugzilla?
[01:46] <LLStarks> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500368
[01:46] <asac> thats definitly not the bug
[01:47] <asac> that was fixed upstream ;)
[01:47] <LLStarks> i know
[01:47] <LLStarks> i'm looking for the commit
[01:47] <asac> i am sure you wont find it that easily ;)
[01:47] <asac> there are probably 2k commits or something ;)
[01:47] <LLStarks> what's with the wink
[01:47] <asac> you need to find the bug :)
[01:47] <LLStarks> you did it, didn't you?
[01:47] <asac> i did it?
[01:48] <LLStarks> i know the bug was elevated
[01:48] <micahg> asac: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~micahg/firefox/firefox-3.7.head/revision/459
[01:48] <LLStarks> but i lack the technical knowhof to find it
[01:48] <asac> i remember that we did something ... yes.
[01:48]  * micahg finally go tit
[01:48] <asac> but i have no clue ;)
[01:48] <micahg> oops :)
[01:48] <micahg> got it
[01:49] <micahg> that's the nsGnome patch
[01:49] <LLStarks> wait, is that it?
[01:49] <micahg> LLStarks: something else for the umd builds
[01:49] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=trough&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=FIXED&resolution=INVALID&resolution=WONTFIX&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=WORKSFORME&resolution=INCOMPLETE&resolution=EXPIRED&resolution=MOVED&resol
[01:49] <asac> thats a search for trough with all closed bugs ;)
[01:50] <asac> but i dont see it in there ;)
[01:50] <micahg> asac: should I propose a merge?
[01:50] <LLStarks> could someone have fixed it without even knowing it?
[01:51] <micahg> LLStarks: sure
[01:51] <LLStarks> btw asac, the bug i filed was previously and erroneous marked as worksforme by brosnan
[01:52] <asac> micahg: is the patch done?
[01:52] <asac> and working? ;)
[01:53] <micahg> asac: the first part
[01:53] <micahg> I fixed the gnome fix, now on to the missing dir
[01:54] <LLStarks> micahg, if it was a blind, blanket fix done as part of the evolution of the gtk widget in firefox, would it even be documented in a mailing list or public sphere?
[01:54] <asac> LLStarks: you know ... all is in hg
[01:54] <asac> and bugzilla
[01:54] <asac> thts all
[01:54] <asac> check the commits to
[01:54] <micahg> LLStarks: without a bug or a changeset, you have no idea if it was a side benefit of another patch or explicitely
[01:54] <asac> /widget/src/gtk2/gtk2drawing.c
[01:54] <micahg> fixed
[01:55] <asac> /widget/src/gtk2/nsNativeThemeGTK.cpp
[01:55] <asac> with some luck those files have not been touched so often ;)
[01:55] <LLStarks> i know, i've been looking at changes over the past year
[01:55] <LLStarks> i don't know enough c to parse the files
[01:55] <micahg> asac: does mxr deal with missing files?
[01:56] <asac> summary:     Bug 501104. Handle GTK2 default button borders properly. r+sr=roc
[01:57] <asac> LLStarks: ^^
[01:57] <asac> LLStarks: i dont look at code
[01:57] <asac> just at the changes
[01:57] <asac> mozilla bug Bug 501104
[01:57] <asac> mozilla Bug 501104
[01:57] <LLStarks> bingo
[01:58] <LLStarks> does the canonical agreement with mozilla allow small backports?
[01:58] <LLStarks> from future releases?
[01:58] <asac> no
[01:58] <asac> we need to get it landed upstream
[01:59] <asac> if its too risky for them its too risky for us ;)
[01:59] <asac> which is quite a sensible line ;)
[01:59] <asac> LLStarks: but thats just button borders
[01:59] <asac> i dont think thats your bug
[01:59] <LLStarks> i know
[01:59] <LLStarks> trough-borders
[01:59] <LLStarks> scrollbars and the like
[02:01] <LLStarks> brb
[02:04] <micahg> asac, I think I found the bug for the other one upstream
[02:13] <micahg> asac: mozilla bug 511642 is breaking 3.6
[02:13] <micahg> and 3.7
[02:15] <asac> yeah
[02:15] <asac> so they unified the list
[02:15] <asac> so we need to adjust our patch to patch the new file
[02:15] <asac> browser/installer/package-manifest.in
[02:15] <micahg> yep
[02:16] <micahg> working on it now
[02:16] <asac> did you manage to get first patch done?
[02:16] <asac> want to show me?
[02:16] <micahg> yep
[02:16] <asac> just the patch i mean ;)
[02:16] <asac> and maybe an interdiff
[02:16] <micahg> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/firefox/firefox-3.7.head
[02:16] <asac> of the previous to the new patch
[02:16] <asac> micahg: please use topic names ;)
[02:16] <micahg> ??
[02:16] <asac> you now took the same branch name as our branch
[02:17] <asac> this means you cannot keep it after we merged it
[02:17] <asac> well you can keep it
[02:17] <micahg> ok
[02:17] <asac> but you cannot reuse the same name
[02:17] <asac> use topic name
[02:17] <micahg> well
[02:17] <asac> topic names
[02:17] <asac> like firefox-3.7.head.daily-patch-rebase-DATE
[02:17] <micahg> what should I have used for this ff3.7.head.umd20090910
[02:17] <asac> or something else innovative
[02:17] <asac> yes for instance
[02:17] <micahg> ok
[02:17] <micahg> well
[02:17] <micahg> I can push up a new branch
[02:17] <asac> you can rename the branch even in launchpad ;)
[02:18] <asac> doesnt matter. just wanted to explain the problem with not using topic branches ;)
[02:18] <micahg> ok
[02:18] <micahg> done
[02:18] <asac> so launchpad code is completely broken
[02:18] <asac> new url please ;)
[02:18] <asac> i cannot look at the diff anymore now ;)
[02:19] <asac> ah ok
[02:19] <asac> no
[02:19] <asac> ;)
[02:19] <asac> found it
[02:19] <asac> you used my name ;)
[02:19] <micahg> hmm
[02:20] <asac> ok so that patch was just rebased ... no changes needed?
[02:20] <asac> update debian/patches/lp185622_system_path_default_browser.patc
[02:20] <asac> forgot the "h" at the end
[02:20] <asac> but no need to fix that ;)
[02:20] <micahg> I only removed lines
[02:20] <micahg> yes
[02:21] <asac> ok
[02:21] <asac> push the new one ;)
[02:21] <micahg> working on it...
[02:21] <asac> k
[02:21] <micahg> I refreshed the first patch
[02:21] <micahg> the second one is giving me issues
[02:21] <micahg> let me try again
[02:21] <asac> Update lp185622_system_path_default_browser.patch to remove libgnomevfs (Mozilla Bug 294375)
[02:21] <asac> i usually just say:
[02:21] <asac> * adjust patches to new upstream code base
[02:21] <asac>   - update patch1
[02:21] <asac>   - update patch2
[02:22] <asac> and do those in one commit unless some patch needs more love
[02:22] <micahg> ok
[02:22] <asac> but the new patch needs more love
[02:22] <micahg> I thoguht you said to do one fix per patch
[02:22] <asac> because they refactored stuff
[02:22] <asac> micahg: for me "* adjust/rebase patches to new upstream code base" is one fix ;)
[02:22] <micahg> ok
[02:22] <micahg> well
[02:22] <asac> because all together fix the build
[02:22] <asac> ;)
[02:23] <asac> if there is a bug or a more complicated rebase
[02:23] <micahg> I can fix and then repush
[02:23] <asac> no its ok
[02:23] <asac> well
[02:23] <asac> maybe use the adjust syntax ;)
[02:23] <asac> no need to do all in one patch
[02:24] <asac> but i dont mind if its not in changelog as long as its clear that this adjusts/rebases a patch
[02:24] <micahg> asac: I'm still learning the lingo
[02:25] <asac> sure. your comment reads too "complicated" ;)
[02:25] <micahg> I thought it was removing gnomevfs from the patch, but it was really rebasing since we didn't make any changes with gnomevfs
[02:25] <asac> i would think ... oh it was serious work needed ;)
[02:25] <asac> even though it just shuffles bits
[02:25] <asac> yes
[02:25] <asac> thats what i men
[02:25] <asac> mean
[02:25] <asac> a comment like: "* adjust/rebase patches" ... implies: business as usual
[02:26] <asac> everything else would make me wonder: what was this in a year or so ;)
[02:26] <asac> its your private branch so you can just uncommit and push --overwrite
[02:27] <asac> after doing it two or three times
[02:27] <asac> you will know the procedure ;)
[02:27] <micahg> is it not helpful to mention which upstream patches caused the rebase?
[02:27] <asac> its not really rocket science. just a few "best" practices we do with our branches that make live easier to collaborate
[02:28] <asac> micahg: usually not.
[02:28] <asac> its at the committers discretion
[02:28] <asac> for rebasing usually not
[02:28] <asac> but for dropping its nice to say which bug made this obsolete
[02:28] <asac> or if the patch was not a rebase, but needed to be redone differently
[02:29] <micahg> ok
[02:29] <micahg> I got through it
[02:29] <asac> so for this "manifest unification" cause
[02:29] <micahg> working on file 3 of the installer cleanup
[02:29] <asac> it might be reasonable to say that
[02:29] <asac> its not a plain adjust
[02:29] <asac> but "rework patch after upstream landing of bug ..."
[02:29] <asac> or something
[02:29] <asac> maybe also give a word or two how you reworked it if its noteworthy
[02:30] <asac> like "rework patches after upstream landing of bug ...; we move the bits and pieces from the platform specific installer manifest to the new common location and do this and that ..."
[02:30] <asac> ;)
[02:30] <asac> but dont make an art out of it ;)
[02:34] <micahg> ah, I'm done :)
[02:35] <micahg> ok, so now I make another commit
[02:35] <asac> yeah
[02:35] <micahg> or just uncommit and fix everything in the comment :)
[02:35] <micahg> uncom,mit?
[02:35] <asac> i would split it in two commits:
[02:36] <micahg> ok
[02:36] <asac> a) simple patch rebase/addjustment
[02:36] <asac> b) patch changes because of manifest changes
[02:36] <asac> but thats just my opinion
[02:36] <micahg> ok
[02:36] <micahg> will do
[02:36] <asac> if you are sure that your manifest adjustment was good you can also just sell it as a "rebase"
[02:36]  * micahg thinks is good, but it was 3 patches and 1 code change
[02:37] <asac> what do you mean?
[02:37] <asac> my suggestion is
[02:37] <micahg> I had to change bin to @BINPATH@
[02:37] <asac> ah
[02:37] <micahg> in one file
[02:37] <micahg> to match the new style
[02:37] <asac> ok
[02:37] <asac> well. just commit as you think
[02:38] <micahg> so 2 commits or one?
[02:38] <asac> i will see if that makes sense to me ;)
[02:38] <asac> i wouldnt commit a patch change that involved real changes in a normal "adjust all patches to new codebase" commit
[02:39] <asac> but thats me ;
[02:39] <asac> )
[02:39] <asac> but if in doubt. splitting is always good ;)
[02:39] <asac> also gives you more commits and more bzr karma in launchpad ;)
[02:42] <asac> oh no ;) ... just found out that i trashed my gnome-bluetooth upload i prepared in /tmp/ with last reboot
[02:42]  * asac shouldnt reboot
[02:42] <micahg> ok, I just pushed it up
[02:43] <micahg> I noted the mozilla bug for the manifest change
[02:43] <asac> launchpad is slow in updating ... takes a minute i gues
[02:44] <micahg> done
[02:45] <asac> yeah. so the commit message is still not formatted like we do ;)
[02:45] <micahg> brb
[02:45] <micahg> ugh
[02:46] <micahg> sorry
[02:46] <asac> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~micahg/firefox/firefox-3.7.head.daily-patch-rebase-20090910/changes
[02:46] <asac> look at that
[02:46] <micahg> forgot the *
[02:46] <micahg> should I fix?
[02:46] <asac> also you dont need the "updated patches:" line
[02:46] <asac> because we say:
[02:46] <asac>  - update path/to/file
[02:47] <asac>  - remove path/to/file
[02:47] <asac>  - add path/to/file
[02:47] <micahg> ok
[02:47] <micahg> I'll try again :)
[02:48] <asac> in the meantime i look at the changes
[02:48] <asac> also i usually say: "... after upstream landing of BUG or TOPIC" ;)
[02:48] <asac> or TOPIC (bmo: BUG)
[02:49] <asac> but if the formatting is ok i am fine ;)
[02:50] <asac> +bin/chrome/awesome-branding.jar
[02:50] <asac> thats wrong i think
[02:50] <asac> you need to use templates everywhere in our patch
[02:50] <asac> @BINPATH@
[02:50] <asac> same for the browser_branding patch
[02:51] <micahg> oops
[02:51] <asac> you can edit the patches directly ;)
[02:51] <asac> of course its safer to push and refresh
[02:51] <asac> maybe do that to excersize a bit more ;)
[02:51] <asac> editing patches directly can still be done later ;)
[02:53] <asac> #ifdef XP_UNIX
[02:53] <asac> is the #endif there somewhere?
[02:53] <asac> could be that we dont see it in this patch ;)
[02:53] <micahg> yes
[02:53] <asac> ok
[02:54] <micahg> is it ok that I put it there and not under the ifndef XP_MACOSX?
[02:54] <asac> our patch is not really arch specific
[02:55] <asac> i would think
[02:55] <asac> so could be moved even outside that block
[02:55] <asac> but doesnt relly matter much here
[02:55]  * micahg will try  a test build
[02:56] <asac> cool
[02:56] <asac> thats important
[02:56] <asac> maybe the branding is completely busted now and firefox doesnt work ;)
[02:56] <asac> but i hope its ok
[02:56] <asac> the changes look good to me ;)
[02:56] <micahg> yay!
[02:56] <asac> at least from the technical side
[02:56] <micahg> BTW, 3.6 only needs the manifest changes
[02:57] <asac> if it doesnt work we have to check whats going on now
[02:57] <micahg> I fixed the binpath, now I have to push it up again
[02:57] <asac> fix the commit syntax while you are at it ;)
[02:58] <micahg> I did
[02:58] <asac> good
[02:58] <micahg> BTW, the main problem I had was I didn't know where to fix the .rej file :)
[02:59] <asac> did you figure that out?
[02:59] <micahg> yep, with some help from hyperair
[02:59] <asac> the quiltrc fta gave you had some "use unified rejects" option
[02:59] <asac> you might want to try that at some point
[02:59] <asac> the normal .rej format is odd
[02:59] <asac> but i got used to it
[03:00] <asac> great
[03:00] <asac> that you dound your way ;)
[03:00] <asac> micahg: you forgot a whitespace ;)
[03:00] <asac> indentation
[03:00] <asac> of comment :)
[03:00] <micahg> yeah, I had to fix it in the file and then use your funny diffstat ccommand
[03:00] <asac> you should really look at bzr log | less
[03:00] <micahg> where?
[03:01] <asac> hmm
[03:01] <asac> maybe its the firefox font ;)
[03:01] <asac> its ok ;)
[03:01] <micahg> that's the browser
[03:01] <asac> yeah
[03:01] <asac> so please test a build
[03:01] <asac> and let me know if it works
[03:02] <asac> is xulrunner also coming?
[03:02] <asac> didnt even know it failed ;)
[03:02] <asac> no xul is fine as it seems
[03:02] <asac> ok
[03:03] <micahg> I made an alias for quilt refresh --diffstat
[03:03] <asac> yes. you can also use quiltrc for that ;)
[03:03] <asac> i think everything is ok but the QUILT_PATCHES thing
[03:03] <asac> thats bogus as it seems for the embedded tarball thing here
[03:04] <asac> fta: so firefox-3.7 is still in dep wait state. probably got the 1.9.3~umd as the lower bound today ;)?
[03:05] <micahg> asac: well, it wouldn't bui,ld anywyas
[03:05] <asac> sure
[03:06] <asac> thats for sure i mean ;)
[03:06] <asac> i386 has 14k jobs on 15 ppa builders
[03:06] <asac> ouch
[03:06] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/builders
[03:18] <micahg> asac: builds started right away for me
[03:32] <micahg> asac: it built fine :)
[03:34] <micahg> asac: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.3a1pre) Gecko/20090910 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Minefield/3.7a1pre
[03:37] <asac> does it work?
[03:37] <micahg> yep
[03:38] <asac> try to install abrowser stuff please
[03:38] <asac> micahg: did you install all packages? e.g. also the -branding etc.?
[03:38] <micahg> yeah, I had the ff3.7 branding
[03:38] <micahg> it showed minefield
[03:38] <micahg> now trying abrowser branding
[03:39] <micahg> hmm
[03:39] <micahg> xml error on abrowser
[03:39] <jcastro> asac: yikes, it's like 5 days of back ups for PPAs
[03:40] <asac> micahg: check if downgrading to latest fixes it at all
[03:40] <asac> otherwise its not a bug in your change ;)
[03:42] <micahg> still a problem
[03:42] <micahg> but someone else opened a bug for that issue
[03:42] <micahg> in 3.5
[03:43] <micahg> maybe it's only abrowser related?
[03:43] <asac> could be. there is a problem in 3.5?
[03:44] <micahg> do you have the menu whited out in 3.7?
[03:45] <asac> hmm so abrowser command starts firefox 3.0 with official branding ;)
[03:45] <micahg> on jaunty
[03:45] <micahg> or karmic?
[03:45] <asac> xml error in about help?
[03:45] <asac> err help -> about
[03:45] <asac> thats what i see
[03:46] <asac> seems we miss a logoCopyright entity in our branding pieces
[03:46] <asac> hmm
[03:46] <micahg> well, if you don't have the abrowser-branding installed
[03:46] <asac> those branding pieces get lumped together during tarball creation iirc
[03:46] <asac> micahg: what do you mean?
[03:47] <asac> i installed abrowser-3.5-branding
[03:47] <asac> thats how i installed abrowser ;)
[03:47] <micahg> on jaunyt or karmic?
[03:47] <asac> karmic
[03:47] <asac> and abrowser-3.5 depends on abrowser-3.5-branding
[03:47] <micahg> yeha, that shouldn't show 3.0 anything
[03:48] <asac> thats just the abrowser command
[03:48] <asac> the abrowser-3.5 command works
[03:48] <asac> only thing broken is about help
[03:48] <asac> which afaik is what the 3.5 bug is about
[03:48] <micahg> asac: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=karmic&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=abrowser
[03:48] <micahg> that's why
[03:48] <asac> sure
[03:49] <micahg> should I open a bug?
[03:49] <asac> thats not a big problem ... we just need a bug for that ;)
[03:49] <asac> yes.
[03:49] <asac> "ship unversioned abrowser commandin firefox-3.5 ... or something alike
[03:49] <micahg> and we already have one for the other
[03:49] <micahg> bug 396156
[03:49] <asac> yes
[03:49] <asac> i have to investigate that
[03:51] <micahg> asac: -beta?
[03:51] <micahg> bug 427674
[03:52] <asac> thx
[03:53]  * micahg could probably fix, but I'm already working on 3 different bugs
[03:53] <asac> so have you tried the versioned abrowser command?
[03:53] <micahg> where?
[03:53] <micahg> I tried abrowser-3.7
[03:53] <asac> k
[03:53] <asac> micahg: 3.7 works here
[03:53] <asac> same help -> about issue
[03:54] <asac> but i can useit otherwise
[03:54] <asac> ii  firefox-3.7            3.7~a1~hg20090907r3228 safe and easy web browser from Mozilla
[03:54] <asac> what type of xml error are you seeing?
[03:55] <micahg> logoCopyright
[03:55] <asac> ok thats the help -> about
[03:55] <asac> so not a regression
[03:55] <asac> everyting else works?
[03:55] <asac> good
[03:55] <micahg> yeah
[04:00] <micahg> asac: you need anything else tonight?
[04:00] <asac> ok merged your branch
[04:00] <asac> firefox-3.6 ;)
[04:00] <micahg> right :)
[04:00] <micahg> I have to get some stuff done at work before I go home
[04:00] <asac> ok. i have to sleep anyway
[04:01] <asac> good night
[04:01] <micahg> night
[04:01] <micahg> if I can't sleep later, I'll work on 3.6 and propose a merge
[04:02] <micahg> was the whitespace ok?
[06:48] <micahg> asac: fta: I'm testing 3.6 daily now
[06:49] <torrancew> hi all, i had a question/potential bug report or two
[06:50] <torrancew> can anyone here help with that?
[06:50] <micahg> sure
[06:51] <torrancew> i'm pushing jaunty, 64 bit, with shiretoko straight out of the default repository
[06:52] <micahg> ok
[06:52] <torrancew> i'm pretty extension-happy, when it comes to ff, and in the past few months, i've finally discovered a few wonderful ones in the way of ubiquity, jetpack, weave
[06:52]  * micahg is glad it's a firefox question :)
[06:52]  * micahg forgot this was the mozilla channel :)
[06:52] <torrancew> all of which work flawlessly on my work machine (macbook pushing os x)
[06:53] <torrancew> on my jaunty box, my biggest problem is weave
[06:53] <torrancew> i am not automatically signed in, and even after signing in, it fails at "Starting Sync Server"
[06:53] <micahg> have you tried with a clean profile and just weave?
[06:54] <torrancew> no i have not
[06:54] <torrancew> good point
[06:54] <torrancew> this other one is almost certainly a bug, however
[06:54] <micahg> you know how to make a clean profile?
[06:54] <torrancew> sure do
[06:54] <micahg> great
[06:54] <torrancew> ubiquity crashes my entire system if i run it while compiz is enabled
[06:54] <torrancew> mouse moves, but absolutely nothing responds
[06:55] <torrancew> Ctrl-Alt-<insert keystroke of your choice here>, mouse clicks, nothing.
[06:55] <micahg> can you enable apport
[06:55] <micahg> it totally freezes?
[06:55] <torrancew> totally
[06:55] <torrancew> nothign short of a reboot will save it
[06:55] <torrancew> and it happens as soon as i open ubiquity
[06:55] <micahg> do you have apport enabled?
[06:55] <torrancew> but if i disable compiz, everything is happy
[06:56] <torrancew> i don't believe i do
[06:56] <torrancew> don't remember, honestly
[06:56] <torrancew> command for apport = ?
[06:56] <micahg> sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport restart
[06:56] <micahg> this'll enable it once
[06:57] <micahg> then just make the crash happen
[06:57] <micahg> if that doesn't work, we can try an strace
[06:57] <torrancew> kk
[06:57] <torrancew> it'll be a few
[06:58] <torrancew> to be clear, i dont' even have tty access once this has happened....
[06:58] <torrancew> but i may be able to ssh...
[06:58] <torrancew> never tried
[06:58] <micahg> 'k I'll be here for a while
[06:58] <micahg> do you have don't zap enabled?
[07:00] <torrancew> i'm not familiar with it
[07:00] <micahg> jaunty disabled the x reset
[07:00] <micahg> and tty access
[07:00] <micahg> there's a package called dontzap that restores it for jaunty
[07:01] <torrancew> i certainly don't have it
[07:01] <torrancew> but i detest that decision
[07:01] <micahg>  !info dontzap jaunty
[07:01] <torrancew> they're not features i use every day, so this may explain why they've been failing when i need them
[07:02] <torrancew> awesome
[07:02] <torrancew> i just ran into my other complaint (non-mozilla related)
[07:02] <torrancew> my mouse randomly ceases to work
[07:03] <micahg> weird
[07:03] <micahg> are you sure the mouse is good?
[07:03] <torrancew> yeah, 64 bit has been a pain, been trying it since january
[07:03] <torrancew> jaunty made some improvements, but not all of them
[07:03]  * micahg is running 64 bit and has been for 1.5 years
[07:03] <torrancew> yep, been using it with ubuntu for 3ish years now
[07:03] <torrancew> changed batteries
[07:04] <torrancew> tried it in windows partition, mac machine, it's fine
[07:04] <torrancew> certain things make it angry
[07:04] <micahg> ok
[07:04] <torrancew> playing half-life in wine, sometimes package management borks it
[07:04] <torrancew> i've heard loads of 64 bit success stories, and i know one day i'll have mine, but it is not this day
[07:05] <torrancew> what's the arg for profile management in ff?
[07:05] <torrancew> --profilemanager?
[07:05] <micahg> firefox-3.5 -ProfileManager
[07:06] <micahg> try #ubuntu-x for help with your mouse
[07:06] <torrancew> kthnx
[07:07] <torrancew> leaving for a bit - been using chatzilla for irc
[07:07] <torrancew> restarting ff
[07:15] <torrancew> micahg: you still around?
[07:16] <micahg> yep
[07:16] <torrancew> cool
[07:16] <torrancew> well a fresh profile fixed weave
[07:16] <micahg> great
[07:16] <torrancew> Somethign i should have tried already, obviously
[07:17] <torrancew> btw, i know there's a way to run multiple ff instances with different profiles, but don't remember how
[07:17] <torrancew> any tips?
[07:17] <micahg> i don't know if that's supported at this time
[07:17] <torrancew> kk
[07:17] <micahg> with prism you can turn a web app into a desktop app
[07:18] <torrancew> well, i'm about to test (recreate) the ubiquity issue
[07:18] <torrancew> assuming that i lose all functionality, as per usual, what should i do to collect the necessary data, and where should i send it?
[07:19] <torrancew> heh
[07:19] <torrancew> prism has been another problem child of mine
[07:19] <torrancew> actually, i'll fire up my dreaded macbook
[07:19] <torrancew> and irc from it
[07:20] <torrancew> let the record state that though i have all 3 flavors of os's, os x is for work only (i'm a mac consultant), and windows is to scratch the occasional brand-new video game itch
[07:20] <torrancew> :-P
[07:21] <torrancew> brb
[07:22] <torrancew> kk
[07:22] <torrancew> shall the games begin?
[07:23] <micahg> sure
[07:23] <torrancew> also, it saddens me that a single keystroke can cripple my system with compiz enabled
[07:23] <torrancew> alright, it's hosed
[07:23] <torrancew> not even any mouse response
[07:24] <torrancew> how can i leverage this situation into some useful info?
[07:24] <micahg> can you get to a tty?
[07:24] <torrancew> nope
[07:24] <torrancew> trying ssh
[07:24] <micahg> reboot and see if apport shows up?
[07:24] <torrancew> i am ssh'd in
[07:24] <torrancew> if that's any help
[07:24] <micahg> did you enable apport?
[07:25] <torrancew> sure did
[07:25] <torrancew> according to top, X is eating all of my cpu
[07:25] <micahg> find the process id of firefox and kill -11 it
[07:25] <torrancew> which is unlikely, given it's quad core 2.6
[07:25] <micahg> not if there's a memory leak
[07:26] <torrancew> kk
[07:26] <torrancew> killed
[07:26] <micahg> is X back?
[07:27] <torrancew> nope
[07:27] <torrancew> still no physical direct access to machine
[07:27] <torrancew> should i try restarting gdm?
[07:27] <micahg> you can try
[07:27] <torrancew> fail
[07:28] <torrancew> thinks it worked, but no change on screen
[07:29] <micahg> ok
[07:29] <micahg> you can try to stop gdm
[07:29] <torrancew> init doesn't successfully do so
[07:29] <torrancew> again, it think it does
[07:31] <torrancew> kill won't term it either
[07:31] <micahg> kill -9 the X process
[07:32] <torrancew> success at last
[07:32] <torrancew> mouse is gone again, but i've got gui and keyboard back
[07:33] <torrancew> upon login, will apport alert me, assuming all went according to plan?
[07:33] <micahg> maybe
[07:33] <micahg> if not, we can try an stace
[07:33] <micahg> strace
[07:33] <torrancew> no apport alert
[07:33] <micahg> ok
[07:34] <torrancew> times like these, i thank gnome-do for enhancing my keyboard-usability
[07:34] <micahg> try launching firefox with:
[07:34] <micahg> firefox-3.5 -f -eopen 2>&1 | tee ~/strace_ff.log
[07:35] <micahg> that'll record a log in your home directory
[07:35] <torrancew> once more with the error inducing?
[07:35] <micahg> yep
[07:35] <torrancew> done
[07:36] <torrancew> kill -11 ff_pid, right?
[07:37] <micahg> it's frozen?
[07:37] <torrancew> oh yeah
[07:37] <micahg> ok, just go straight for x then
[07:37] <torrancew> again, instantly on Meta-Space
[07:39] <torrancew> strace_ff.log contains 2 lines
[07:39] <torrancew> 1 is a ptr to my foxyproxy settings dir
[07:39] <torrancew> the other is ubiquity related
[07:39] <micahg> just 2 lineS?
[07:40] <torrancew> database table: ubiquity_suggestion_memory already exists
[07:40] <torrancew> yep
[07:40] <micahg> weird
[07:40] <torrancew> story of my life my friend.
[07:42] <torrancew> any good advice before i succumb to the sleep gods?
[07:44] <micahg> you can file a bug in firefox-3.5
[07:45] <torrancew> i've been having the issue, even on 3.0
[07:45] <micahg> well
[07:45] <micahg> not quite sure where the bug is
[07:45] <torrancew> i'm thinking compiz
[07:45] <torrancew> it breaks vnc, as well
[07:45] <micahg> ok
[07:46] <micahg> maybe file a bug with compiz
[07:46] <torrancew> alright
[07:46] <torrancew> thanks for the help man
[07:46] <micahg> np
[07:46] <torrancew> to be clear, kill -9 and kill -11
[07:46] <torrancew> what are the flags doing there?
[07:46] <micahg> -9 is a force quite
[07:46] <micahg> quit
[07:47] <torrancew> right
[07:47] <torrancew> and 11?
[07:47] <micahg> -11 is a SIGSEGV
[07:48] <torrancew> gotcha
[07:48] <torrancew> thanks man
[07:48] <torrancew> later
[08:02] <micahg> asac:  lp:~micahg/firefox/firefox-3.6.head.daily-patch-rebase-20090910
[08:02] <micahg> build is here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/+archive/mozilla-test
[10:04] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[10:40] <bdrung> hi
[10:51] <andv> eagles0513875, there?
[10:52] <eagles0513875> morning andv and bdrung
[10:52] <andv> eagles0513875, are you under kde?
[10:52] <eagles0513875> ya i am
[10:52] <andv> karmic?
[10:52] <eagles0513875> i can never seem to get used to gnome
[10:52] <eagles0513875> ya in a vm
[10:52] <andv> please
[10:52] <andv> open the terminal
[10:52] <eagles0513875> hold on let me start my vm
[10:52] <andv> and give a sudo apt-get install nicotine
[10:52] <eagles0513875> O_o
[10:52] <eagles0513875> im no drug user :P
[10:52] <andv> lol
[10:53] <andv> it's a package
[10:53] <andv> don't worry
[10:53] <eagles0513875> i know just as the brits say taking the piss
[10:53] <andv> eagles0513875, then launch the application in a console
[10:53] <eagles0513875> k
[10:54] <andv> for doing that just open up the console
[10:54] <andv> and write
[10:54] <andv> nicotine
[10:54] <andv> that's the binary name
[10:55] <eagles0513875> k
[11:04] <eagles0513875> andv: didnt know there was a dependency called python-mutagen lol
[11:06] <eagles0513875> andv: its up
[11:06] <eagles0513875> and running from commandline
[11:06] <andv> does it work?
[11:06] <eagles0513875> what is it anyway a torrent app
[11:06] <andv> yeah, a p2p application
[11:06] <andv> eagles0513875, do you have the package python-glade2 installed?
[11:06] <andv> eagles0513875, if yes, apt-get remove it
[11:07] <eagles0513875> i have gnome desktop installed
[11:07] <eagles0513875> if i remove that package the desktop goes with it it seems
[11:08] <andv> damn, I need to test it without that package
[11:09] <eagles0513875> if you want ill purge ubuntu desktop
[11:09] <eagles0513875> its not a problem
[11:09] <eagles0513875> let me purge it
[11:09] <andv> yeah, then re-install it
[11:09] <andv> when the test is done
[11:09] <andv> you're on a vm so np
[11:09] <eagles0513875> exactly
[11:09] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:09] <eagles0513875> and im not on gnome much anyway
[11:11] <eagles0513875> i get an error
[11:12] <andv> paste it
[11:12] <andv> on pastebin
[11:12] <eagles0513875> www.pastebin.com/m6d51ba61
[11:13] <andv> Unknown post id, it may have expired or been deleted
[11:13] <andv> repaste it
[11:13] <eagles0513875> get rid of the www
[11:13] <andv> paste.debian.net
[11:13] <eagles0513875> pastebin.com/m6d51ba61
[11:13] <eagles0513875> http://
[11:13] <andv> k
[11:13] <andv> works
[11:13] <andv> so the python-glade2 dep is needed
[11:13] <eagles0513875> seems so
[11:14] <eagles0513875> let me install the python-glade2 again and see if it runs
[11:14] <andv> ok
[11:16] <eagles0513875> it works with it
[11:16] <andv> mmm...
[11:17] <andv> eagles0513875, open a bug against nicotine
[11:17] <eagles0513875> what would i say in the bug?
[11:19] <andv> nvm, another guy gonna do it
[11:20] <eagles0513875> andv: willing to test other things if need be
[11:20] <andv> ok for now :)
[11:23] <eagles0513875> :)
[11:24]  * gnomefreak already confused. been here for about a 1minute :(
[11:24] <andv> lol
[11:24] <andv> gnomefreak, I've cleaned up the wiki page
[11:25] <gnomefreak> bdrung: im assuming whom ever built our adblock-plus didnt start with Debians version but made it new and it was never pushed to Debian before synced
[11:25] <asac> how are things going?
[11:25] <andv> gnomefreak, firebug is unable to use mozilla-devscripts 0.15
[11:25] <asac> extensionreview doing progressing?
[11:25] <andv> gnomefreak, so leave it
[11:25] <asac> or came to an end ;)?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> andv: thanks sorry for taking mozgest but i didnt find out you wanted it until i got done with it
[11:25] <bdrung> gnomefreak: yes
[11:26] <gnomefreak> andv: works for me.
[11:26]  * gnomefreak not sure why it wouldnt be able to. do we know "why"?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> asac: i think we are caught up on them
[11:26] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Karmic/ExtensionReview
[11:26]  * gnomefreak chekcing email so maybe ill know
[11:26] <asac> there are 7 extensions
[11:27] <asac> i think we have about 50 ;)
[11:27] <asac> in the archive
[11:27] <asac> maybe nopt that many, but definitly far more
[11:27] <asac> thatn 7 ;)
[11:27] <andv> gnomefreak, it cleans the .xpi file
[11:27] <andv> gnomefreak, before starting the build
[11:27] <gnomefreak> asac: not sure but we can always add them. not a problem. i wont have time to do much of anything today
[11:27] <asac> ok
[11:28] <asac> eagles0513875: how about reviewing a few more of those today? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions
[11:28] <andv> gnomefreak, np for mozgest, I was trying to find a debdiff / branch to review
[11:28] <andv> gnomefreak, but wasnt able to find one
[11:28] <gnomefreak> andv: maybe a slight rules adjustment?
[11:28] <andv> brb
[11:28] <asac> maybe fast path greasemonkey
[11:28] <asac> 12:27 < seb128> asac, bug #427789
[11:28] <asac> 12:27 < ubottu> Launchpad bug 427789 in firefox-3.5 ""Not compatible with Firefox 3.5.3" displayed after  installing greasemonkey from firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427789
[11:28] <eagles0513875> asac: have my lpi 101 exam soon to og for
[11:28] <gnomefreak> as for chatzilla it can be bmodified when we update to 1.1.18/19 depending on if someone wants to update it. i will be gone for at least 1 week when i leave here.
[11:28] <eagles0513875> FLOOD
[11:28] <asac> eagles0513875: ok
[11:29] <eagles0513875> hehe will do some more this afternoon when i get back
[11:30] <gnomefreak> greasemonkey works fine on 3.5.3 as well as 3.5.4~hg20090907r26344+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd2
[11:30] <asac> eagles0513875: thx. every extension reviewed like this is a huge win
[11:30] <asac> ;)
[11:30] <asac> we need a complete list in a week or something
[11:30] <eagles0513875> :) i know asac
[11:30] <gnomefreak> unless i modified mine
[11:30] <asac> otherwise time left in this cycle gets low
[11:30] <eagles0513875> damn i will finish today :) hopefully
[11:30] <asac> to do much
[11:31] <asac> thanks a bunch
[11:31] <eagles0513875> no prob
[11:31] <eagles0513875> im running low on time 2 weeks till i start lectures
[11:31] <gnomefreak> asac: just bump install.rdf i would have to look at mine to tell you but it works on 3.5* and 3.6*
[11:31] <asac> andv: gnomefreak: one of you could fix greasemonkey -> update to latest upstream
[11:32] <asac> gnomefreak: it just broke for seb
[11:32] <asac> he had it bumped
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Installed: 0.8.20090123.1-0ubuntu3~jjv as <<< works for both
[11:32] <asac> yes
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ok i havent triedd it this mornoing yet
[11:32] <gnomefreak> morning
[11:32] <asac> anyway. we have to update the package in the archive
[11:32] <asac> no questions asked ;)
[11:32] <asac> gnomefreak: the 3.5.3 update killed seb
[11:33] <gnomefreak> oh it didnt kill it was working after restart. thinking browser but doesnt say
[11:33] <gnomefreak> sounds more like ubfox than greasemonnkey if browser restart fixed it
[11:34] <gnomefreak> well i will do updates and let you know if mine broke too
[11:34] <gnomefreak> hes using upstreams by the sound of it
[11:35] <gnomefreak> * search for greasemonkey
[11:35] <gnomefreak> * install the xpi
[11:35] <gnomefreak> we use deb
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ask him to see if ours works. mine i know is bumped not sure if official has
[11:36] <asac> gnomefreak: he is now using upstrema
[11:36] <asac> beause the package one broken
[11:36] <asac> gnomefreak: no need to ask him
[11:36] <asac> he is coming from our package
[11:36] <asac> and now is urnning upstream
[11:36] <asac> as that works ;)
[11:37] <eagles0513875> asac:  have you see bug 425695 and the comment gnomefreak made on it
[11:37] <eagles0513875> bug 425695
[11:38] <gnomefreak> asac: ah from what i read it sounded like he was using thiers. he didnt mention ours at all. when updates are done ill let you know if it works here. if not i will assume my changes fixed it but never pushed to archive, i dont remember who changed it last. i had worked on it for one of the mass ext. bugs but noone cared about my changes and did it themselves
[11:38] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: we were just talking about that.'
[11:38] <eagles0513875> ahh
[11:38] <eagles0513875> my bad
[11:38] <eagles0513875> i was just doing what asac had told me to do
[11:39] <gnomefreak> bdrung: push ours and wait for karmic+1 sync (adblock-plus since we can not sync (manully) or automaticly from sid until next cycle
[11:41] <gnomefreak> there should be atleast one ? in there
[11:42] <bdrung> gnomefreak: if the debian package switch to mozilla-devscripts, we could sync
[11:44] <gnomefreak> bdrung: asac might know better but i think they packaged it on thier own. i don thave a sid chroot nor have time to make one. im only here for a couple of hours today
[11:44] <bdrung> gnomefreak: i know better. :p
[11:45] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:45] <asac> bdrung is the man ;)
[11:47] <gnomefreak> bdrung: congrats on MOTU
[11:48] <bdrung> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:49] <gnomefreak> oh no damn next bugday is firefox-3.5 just thinking the amount of email ill get :(
[11:49] <andv> asac, gnomefreak: was on phone sorry
[11:49] <gnomefreak> andv: np
[11:49] <andv> asac, gnomefreak: did you tell me something to check / do?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> andv: i was thinking just a little adjustment in rules but im not sure why it doesnt work with m-d 15
[11:51] <gnomefreak> 0.15 sorry
[11:51] <gnomefreak> what is latest it works with?
[11:51] <andv> it did not have any m-d B-D
[11:51] <andv> that's why it worked
[11:51] <andv> :)
[11:51] <andv> when I've added it it stopped working
[11:51] <asac> andv: yes. more extension reviews ;) ... in particular updating our greasemonkey to latest upstream
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ah that is a fairly good reason :)
[11:52] <asac> bug 427790
[11:52] <andv> asac, greasemonkey? any problem with it?
[11:52] <asac> see the bug
[11:52] <andv> asac, ubottu is not here
[11:52] <andv> ;)
[11:52] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/427790
[11:52] <gnomefreak> IIRC greasemonkey was a bit of a mess but i havent touched it in a while
[11:53] <asac> while doing that greasmonkey should be properly moved to new mozilla-devscript packaging imo
[11:53] <asac> e.g. just processed as normal
[11:53] <gnomefreak> it may be down a while seems to be having problems
[11:54] <andv> asac, one question, I have a package which doesnt run on kde cause a missing dep
[11:54] <andv> asac, but it is a GTK2 app
[11:54] <andv> asac, so not really designed for kde
[11:54] <andv> asac, should I add it anyway?
[11:54] <andv> asac, e.g for ppl who wanna have both kde and gnome-desktop installed?
[11:55] <asac> packages always need all the required depends
[11:55] <gnomefreak> +1
[11:55] <andv> k
[11:55] <andv> gonna fix it
[11:55] <andv> eagles0513875, please report the bug
[11:55] <asac> ${shlibs:Depends} should usually do that for you
[11:55] <asac> if its a binary dependency
[11:55] <asac> if there are packages on top for a valid reason they must be added too
[11:55] <asac> especially if the program doesnt work at all without it
[11:56] <andv> asac, yeah, it fails to startup with a python-glade2 missing dep error
[11:57] <asac> whats the error you see?
[11:57] <andv> asac, http://pastebin.com/m6d51ba61
[11:57] <asac> oh its python
[11:57] <asac> yeah
[11:57] <asac> needs to be added to depends
[11:57] <andv> yep, python
[11:57] <andv> ok
[11:58] <asac> if its a package from debian also send the debdiff to them
[11:58] <andv> ok
[11:58] <andv> yeah, it's synced from debian
[11:58] <andv> asac, let me open the bugs
[11:58] <andv> asac, does greasemonkey have some problems?
[11:59] <asac> the package is currently not working at all because of that bug
[11:59] <asac> in ffox 3.5
[11:59] <asac> its "disabled as being incompatible"
[11:59] <asac> just update to latest upstream
[11:59] <asac> that should work
[12:00] <andv> ok
[12:00] <andv> added on todos
[12:00] <asac> thx
[12:00] <andv> fixing this nicotine bug
[12:02] <andv> asac, added: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nicotine/+bug/427796
[12:03] <andv> asac, I found this out while testing a backport to approve
[12:03] <andv> ^^
[12:04] <gnomefreak> asac: seems suse fixed the KDE support. for firefox
[12:05] <andv> gnomefreak, is possible to link a bug to each other
[12:06] <andv> if both of them are into LP?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> andv: what do you mean?
[12:06] <andv> gnomefreak, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/jaunty-backports/+bug/409979/+distrotask
[12:06] <andv> gnomefreak, I wanted to link it to a bug which is hosted on LP
[12:09] <gnomefreak> andv: not sure.
[12:09] <andv> looks like I can't
[12:09] <gnomefreak> asac: few things. this is OpenSuse KDE intergrations stuff: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration
[12:10] <gnomefreak> andv: try in #launchpad
[12:10] <asac> i know about that one
[12:10] <asac> i havent seen the patches
[12:10] <andv> asac, gonna fix greasemonkey this evening / night
[12:10] <gnomefreak> asac: the other thing is please look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/422745  last i heard there was no separate alterntives for flash
[12:11] <asac> hopefully they upstream them or mconnor takes care that they don't ship that .... otherwise we will get complains for ages ;)
[12:11] <andv> asac, gonna provide you the package when done, for a review
[12:11] <asac> "opensuse ships kde integration .. why no ubuntu"
[12:12] <gnomefreak> asac: IMHO we should wait for a non hacked version anyway
[12:12] <asac> agreed
[12:13] <gnomefreak> the only thing is last i heard they stopped working on it (or alteast came to an impass)
[12:13] <asac> i think the gnash bug is something we should fix
[12:13] <asac> let me see if i didnt do that yet
[12:14] <gnomefreak> wouldnt it be under the xul* alternatives?
[12:15] <asac> iceape is old style mozilla
[12:15] <asac> they dont look there
[12:15] <asac> but its not really the problem here
[12:15] <asac> the problem is something different
[12:18] <gnomefreak> asac: ok, i was going on the way he put it.   WTF is RTE Player 0.2.354.390 and do we support it?
[12:18] <asac> gnomefreak: fixing it now
[12:19] <gnomefreak> gnash?
[12:19] <asac> yes
[12:19] <gnomefreak> asac: ok
[12:20] <eagles0513875> andv: ? what bug
[12:23] <asac> fixed
[12:23] <asac> uploading
[12:23] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:23] <asac> gnomefreak: uplaoded. in case the guy still has the same bug let me know (or other upgrade errors there)
[12:23] <asac> gnash_0.8.5-0ubuntu3_source.changes:
[12:24] <gnomefreak> asac: i saw a few IIRC. i will not be here for at least until the 21st of this month
[12:24] <asac> leaving today?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> oh well time for smoke email locked up
[12:25] <gnomefreak> asac: yes this moring
[12:25] <gnomefreak> morning even
[12:26] <asac> gnomefreak: enjoy your honeymoon!!!
[12:26] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks i hope to :)
[12:27] <gnomefreak> asac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/427280
[12:27] <gnomefreak> ok smoke for real this time
[12:27] <asac> jdstrand: pitti needs your input on how to copy stuff from ppa to proposed
[12:31] <gnomefreak> didnt think you could
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ok who is Robert Ancell?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> asac: seems ^^ assigned yelp FTBFS to you. im expected because its XUL related
[12:39] <andv> eagles0513875, I did it np
[12:40] <andv> gnomefreak, have fun during your honeymoon!!!
[12:41] <gnomefreak> andv: thanks :) its going to be a while until that happens first fly to NJ than drive into NYC than sunday fly out to Sicily
[12:41] <andv> gnomefreak, aww, I live in udine (italy)
[12:41] <andv> which is quite a bit far away from sicily
[12:42] <gnomefreak> yep it is i wanted venice but she didnt like that idea but she has family in Sicily to i agreed.
[12:43] <andv> I'm 100 kms from venice
[12:43] <andv> so pretty near
[12:43] <andv> from sicily is around 1200
[12:43] <andv> or more
[12:45] <gnomefreak> that is far
[12:45] <andv> yep
[12:45] <andv> ^^
[12:48] <gnomefreak> bdrung: i just sent email to bug report on adblock i know i should have asked it in here but email is what i am most concerned about atm
[12:49] <gnomefreak> im thinking let wait for new upstream version until we push to Sid the more i think of it
[12:49] <bdrung> earlier it is not possible
[12:51] <gnomefreak> bdrung: for Sid?
[12:51]  * gnomefreak not sure what upstream version is atm
[12:51] <bdrung> its current
[12:52] <gnomefreak> bdrung: ok thanks
[12:52]  * gnomefreak coffee smoke than found out whats wrong with apt'dpkg
[12:57] <gnomefreak> asac: with the umd 3.5 greasemonkey works fine (my modified version)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> this is after todays updates
[12:59] <asac> gnomefreak: whats the problem with just updating to whatever is shipped by addons.mozilla.org?
[13:00] <gnomefreak> asac: i can but IIRC it was a mess but i have enough time to look at it
[13:00] <asac> its ok
[13:00] <asac> someone else can do that
[13:00] <asac> enjoy your honeymoon
[13:01] <asac> send us a pic ;)
[13:01] <bdrung> gnomefreak: i have nothing prepared for debian. first step will be to contact the debian maintainer
[13:01] <asac> sitting below the palm trees ;)
[13:01] <asac> not sure where yo going though
[13:01]  * gnomefreak going to Sicily
[13:03] <gnomefreak> karmic repos are screwedc up. its tell me gnome-games-common and others WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! i dont have an ppa for them and Get:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main libempathy-gtk-common 2.27.92-0ubuntu2 [444kB] is where its getting them from
[13:03] <asac> thats not nice
[13:03] <asac> i dont know what the reason could be
[13:03] <asac> at best dont upgrade it
[13:03] <asac> try a different mirror
[13:03] <asac> maybe your mirror has bad bits/bytes
[13:04] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/269115/
[13:04]  * asac listens to "Aces High" ... hasnt heard that for 10 years or so ;)
[13:04] <asac> gnomefreak: dont install
[13:04] <asac> use different mirror
[13:04] <gnomefreak> asac: ok
[13:06] <gnomefreak> trying it.*
[13:08] <gnomefreak> aces high by Iorn Maiden?
[13:08] <asac> yeah!!
[13:08] <gnomefreak> Iron even
[13:11]  * gnomefreak loves them been listening for many years :)
[13:11] <gnomefreak> 2nd metal band i got into (after Metallica)
[13:12] <gnomefreak> andv: are your mirros *it.*?
[13:12] <gnomefreak> mirror even
[13:12] <andv> yes
[13:13] <gnomefreak> im getting a 404 on all of them
[13:13] <gnomefreak> Err http://it.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main gstreamer0.10-alsa 0.10.24-2       404 Not Found [IP: 193.206.139.34 80]
[13:14] <gnomefreak> update works fine but downloading packages i get the 404
[13:15] <asac> gnomefreak: use archive.ubuntu.com
[13:15] <asac> no language variant
[13:16] <gnomefreak> k that will give me us archive though at least as i understand it it will automaticly get from closest lang.
[13:17] <gnomefreak> us seems to work for once
[13:17] <asac> i dont think so
[13:17] <gnomefreak> ubottu: hi
[13:17] <asac> otherwise just run apt-get update in 1hour on your gb mirror and hope that its fixed
[13:19] <gnomefreak> us is working atm i will cange toi nothing when its done
[13:20] <asac> hehe
[13:20] <asac> ubottu: any new features?
[13:20] <asac> or were you just sick?`
[13:20] <asac> !now
[13:20] <asac> @now
[13:20] <asac> !time
[13:20] <asac> @time
[13:20] <gnomefreak> he crashed and came back crashes again
[13:20] <asac> i want time back
[13:20] <gnomefreak> now back to mormal i hope
[13:24] <gnomefreak> em:maxVersion>3.1b2</em:maxVersion>   needs to be fixed :) that is upstream version. if seb is using upstream and it works im suprized
[13:25] <gnomefreak> version 0.8.20090123.1-fx
[13:26] <gnomefreak> that is latest upstream version as i have in PPA
[13:26] <gnomefreak> no newer version on addons.firefox
[13:26] <gnomefreak> ah forgot (greasemonkey
[13:26] <gnomefreak> 0
[13:27] <andv> asac, are you sure greasemonkey requires a new upstream release?
[13:27] <andv> asac, is greasemonkey-0.8.20090123.1-fx latest?
[13:27] <andv> asac, in archives we have greasemonkey-0.8.20090123.1
[13:27] <asac> andv: i am sure that the upstream .xpi is different from our .upstream
[13:28] <asac> at least the install.rdf is different
[13:28]  * gnomefreak wonders why no newer version. asac tell him to try the version in my PPA sinces it is working here
[13:28] <gnomefreak> andv: it cant
[13:28] <gnomefreak> newest version is in my PPA with fixed install.rdf
[13:28] <gnomefreak> asac: nope
[13:28] <andv> gnomefreak, there is no new upstream release
[13:28] <gnomefreak> i was just looking at it. see pasted lines from install.rdf
[13:28] <andv> Version  	0.8.20090123.1
[13:29] <andv> is the same we have in archive
[13:29] <gnomefreak> .:08:24:38:. <      gnomefreak > em:maxVersion>3.1b2</em:maxVersion>   needs to  be fixed :) that is upstream version. if seb  is using upstream and it works im suprized
[13:29] <andv> from what https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748 says
[13:29] <asac> folkd
[13:29] <asac> folks
[13:29] <asac> just take the upstream .xpi
[13:29] <asac> diff it with our .upstream branch
[13:29] <asac> if its just the install.rdf then we want to just take that change "as new upstream" ;)
[13:29] <asac> no rocket science
[13:30] <asac> but you never know what greasemonkey folks are doing
[13:30] <asac> at least they bumped the maxVersion there
[13:30] <andv> asac, found out
[13:30] <asac> good ;)
[13:30] <andv> asac, why it does not work on ffox3.5
[13:31] <andv> asac, the max version is set to: <em:maxVersion>3.1b2</em:maxVersion>
[13:31] <andv> asac, that should be fixed
[13:31] <gnomefreak> andv: its 3.1pre in upstream not sure what ours has. im looking in my PPA for it but i think i lost it
[13:32] <gnomefreak> that will work using 3.6* IIRC
[13:32] <andv> gnomefreak, where that branch is hosted?
[13:33] <gnomefreak> easy enough to fix. andv it was removed from my PPA or atleast gone atm let me see if i still have branch
[13:33] <gnomefreak> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/greasemonkey.ubuntu andv
[13:33] <gnomefreak> and mine works great :)
[13:34] <andv> gnomefreak, the fix is just to adjust maxversion
[13:34] <gnomefreak> if someone feels like pushing feel free :) testing for a long time now :)
[13:34] <gnomefreak> andv: yes
[13:34] <gnomefreak> and deps (new changes we need to make
[13:34] <gnomefreak> )*
[13:34] <andv> gnomefreak, if asac is ok with it, I will review / push it
[13:34] <andv> gnomefreak, do it have new m-d stuff?
[13:34] <gnomefreak> andv: let me make the xpi changes first
[13:34] <andv> k
[13:34] <gnomefreak> andv: nope this was before that
[13:35] <andv> gnomefreak, update m-d stuff too
[13:35]  * gnomefreak working on it should be done soon. is ther ea xpi bug on it?
[13:35] <andv> gnomefreak, Depends: firefox | abrowser | firefox-3.5 is wrong, that's why I said that to you
[13:35] <andv> gnomefreak, yes
[13:35] <andv> gnomefreak, there is a bug
[13:35] <andv> wait
[13:36] <andv> gnomefreak, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greasemonkey/+bug/427790
[13:37] <gnomefreak> sebs bug should be a dupe of that. eagles0513875 you never set up an xpi bug for greasemonkey but doesnt matter too much
[13:37] <andv> gnomefreak, when done, update the wiki page as well
[13:38] <andv> gnomefreak, I've added some new fields as well
[13:38] <gnomefreak> andv: ok thanks. please add this one if not already
[13:39] <andv> k
[13:39] <gnomefreak> asac: do you have sebs bug handy?
[13:40] <asac> what do you want?
[13:40] <gnomefreak> i have it
[13:40] <andv> gnomefreak, bug assigned to you
[13:40] <gnomefreak> andv: thanks
[13:40] <andv> np
[13:41] <asac> please dont ask him questions ;)
[13:41] <asac> he is already busy enough
[13:41] <asac> the bug is as it is
[13:41] <asac> just update to latest xpi from upstream
[13:41] <asac> if thats just install.rdf then thats how it is
[13:42] <asac> ah ok duped
[13:42] <asac> good
[13:42] <asac> gnomefreak: no
[13:42] <asac> thats a different bug
[13:42] <gnomefreak> asac: i didnt plan on it
[13:42] <asac> thats not fun
[13:43] <asac> i told seb to file those two separately
[13:43] <asac> dont dupe
[13:43] <gnomefreak> it is same bug
[13:43] <asac> it is not
[13:43] <asac> only do bug 427790
[13:43] <asac> the other bug is something else
[13:43] <gnomefreak> asac: and his fails to work on it due to compat.
[13:44] <gnomefreak> how is that different (same install.rdf changes
[13:44] <asac> gnomefreak: dont bother with that. if you read the bug carefully you will see that its different
[13:44] <asac> bug 427789
[13:44] <asac> thats != 427790
[13:44] <gnomefreak> i just did
[13:45] <asac> yes. then you didnt see the difference
[13:45] <gnomefreak> i didint at first
[13:45] <asac> k
[13:49] <gnomefreak> !info greasemonkey
[13:49] <gnomefreak> just making sure
[13:57]  * asac lunch
[13:58] <gnomefreak> andv: pushing to m-e-d branches
[13:59] <gnomefreak> andv: waiting for it to populate on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozilla-extensions-dev/firefox-extensions/greasemonkey.ubuntu fixed 2 bugs
[14:00] <andv> gnomefreak, did you fix m-d stuff too?
[14:00] <gnomefreak> andv: yes
[14:01] <gnomefreak> andv: right now adding to the wiki
[14:01] <andv> gnomefreak, did you add reference to the wiki into the changelog?
[14:01] <andv> like I did with ubuntu-it-menu
[14:02] <andv> gnomefreak, check ubuntu-it-menu changelog for an example
[14:03] <gnomefreak> andv: no but i will thats easy enough
[14:03] <andv> yep
[14:03] <andv> if not i gonna do it np
[14:04] <gnomefreak> andv: ok please do. im trying to catch up on everything. we need the wiki updated later for other extensions but maybe eagles0513875 was going to do that?
[14:04] <andv> gnomefreak, would be really great to have the wiki page updated with some other extensions
[14:04] <andv> we have 8 now
[14:05] <andv> and as asac said we have more than 40
[14:05] <gnomefreak> andv: yep. but right now im trying to figure this out :)
[14:05] <andv> so please eagles0513875 please add them
[14:05] <andv> add them properly
[14:05] <andv> with right links et on
[14:07] <gnomefreak> shit dont touch it now
[14:10] <gnomefreak> oh wtf
[14:11] <andv> please don't tell it's fucke** now
[14:12] <gnomefreak> i cant seem to get the table to line up for some reason. w
[14:12] <gnomefreak> -w
[14:12] <gnomefreak> andv: why! can you look at it while i go smoke please?
[14:15] <andv> gnomefreak, fixed
[14:16] <andv> gnomefreak, look now
[14:16] <gnomefreak> andv: looking what did you do to fix it?
[14:16] <andv> some white spaces randomly added
[14:17] <gnomefreak> well little off i can fix this part
[14:17] <andv> gnomefreak, fix the bug
[14:17] <andv> gnomefreak, and move it to the right column
[14:17] <gnomefreak> i am
[14:17] <andv> grat
[14:17] <andv> great
[14:21] <gnomefreak> cant im missing something but one minute
[14:22] <andv> just remove the (./) placed in wrong column and replace with the bug url
[14:23] <gnomefreak> nope i end up with it like the table was last time
[14:24] <andv> check for free spaces then
[14:24] <gnomefreak> damnit
[14:27] <gnomefreak> nope that didnt work either
[14:27] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[14:30] <gnomefreak> ok wtf if i remove the extra (./) and fix spaces it still ends up on another line
[14:30] <andv> a | should be removed somewhere
[14:31] <gnomefreak> fixed
[14:31] <andv> great
[14:31] <gnomefreak> andv: thanks
[14:32] <andv> np
[14:32] <gnomefreak> wikis are still a pain in the ass
[14:32] <andv> gnomefreak, is the branch ready?
[14:32] <gnomefreak> oh crap i think so but one sec
[14:32] <andv> did you update what asac said us?
[14:32] <gnomefreak> ok let me find out what you wanted me to do unless you already did it?
[14:33] <andv> gnomefreak, nope, im leaving
[14:33] <andv> check ubuntu-it-menu changelog for an example
[14:33] <gnomefreak> andv: ok ill look
[14:33] <andv> gnomefreak, then drop me an email with mozgest branch to review / push
[14:33] <gnomefreak> andv: ok
[14:33] <andv> and greasemonkey branch to review / push
[14:34] <gnomefreak> andv: where did you push ubuntu-it-menu to? i thought it was this but i dont see it
[14:35] <gnomefreak> its not https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozilla-extensions-dev
[14:35] <andv> gnomefreak, ~ubuntu-dev
[14:36] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[14:45] <gnomefreak> ok updating the branch. pushed waiting for LP to update
[14:45] <gnomefreak> we should add a few things to the bug reports. i will add to wiki i think
[14:46] <andv> ok
[14:46] <andv> as I said drop me an email
[14:46] <andv> I'll catch it
[14:46] <andv> later
[14:47]  * andv off
[14:50] <gnomefreak> asac: please see wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Karmic/ExtensionReview i added a few things to the Checklist section. maybe add an example or a link to example. but i have a few things to do and im gone :)
[14:51] <gnomefreak> example https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozilla-extensions-dev/firefox-extensions/greasemonkey.ubuntu but it will be merged so we need a stable place as example
[14:54] <eagles0513875> WOOOOHOOO PASSED MY linux exam part one
[14:56] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: congrats. you should have email about the extension wiki. we need to add more extensions to the list ( alot more)
[14:57] <eagles0513875> ok
[14:57] <eagles0513875> im under pressure on 2 fronts
[14:58] <gnomefreak> chatzilla cant be done until someone packages seamonkey-1.1.18. i wont be able to upgrade it this month and it needs to be done soonish. some patches issues on nss nspr
[14:58] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: i could probably package if need be but knowing my luck i would have to try it a few times before its right
[14:59] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: the nss/nspr is not that of an easy fix. and mips patches need to be dropped as well.
[15:00] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok not a good place for me to start then
[15:02] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: no not on that. tbird-3 lost tool bar buttons :(
[15:03] <eagles0513875> :(
[15:04] <gnomefreak> i would say best to start with small fixes ojn a package and build it than (just a command unless something major changed
[15:04] <eagles0513875> i need to get karmic up and running on my laptop after i upgrade to 64bit snow leopard cuz right now i cannot install it what so ever
[15:05] <eagles0513875> i woudl upgrade but was told for testing purposes its best to do a clean install
[15:13] <gnomefreak> !info firefox-3.0
[15:18] <gnomefreak> !info firefox-3.0 jaunty
[15:20] <jdstrand> asac: not sure what the problem is, but if I use ubuntu-bug I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269195/
[15:28] <gnomefreak> isnt there an open bug on the Xwindow crashes?
[15:28] <gnomefreak> although i dont remember the 607
[15:28] <eagles0513875> btw asac and gnomefreak will work on the extensions this weekend after the funeral tomorrow
[15:29] <asac> jdstrand: yes. thats a known issue i have a bandaid fix for
[15:29] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: thats fine i will be gone for a week or more
[15:29] <asac> and there is a fix landed on trunk ... it seems to be a race
[15:29] <asac> jdstrand: bug 401055
[15:30] <eagles0513875> asac:  bandaid is good but question is how long will it be before it falls off
[15:30] <gnomefreak> when truck gets fix we will remove bandaid
[15:30] <asac> i would think you have no real qualified opinion on that one :)
[15:30] <asac> gnomefreak is right ;)
[15:30] <jdstrand> asac: thanks
[15:30] <asac> we havent even added a bandaid to ffox 3.5 ... just for that reason: dont hide
[15:32] <gnomefreak> ok guys thats it for me. we are bringing her laptop so i will have some access to email. asac feel free to update SM-1.1.18 with the nss/nspr. iceape from Mike should have the fixes already im guessing just grab patches but i havent had time to look at it or work on it since mike fixed it in Debian
[15:33] <asac> gnomefreak: great. enjoy your holiday. see you back in best shape and fully recharged
[15:33] <asac> 2 weeks you are back?
[15:33] <asac> cu then!
[15:33] <asac> ok folks i was told by boss to take off the rest of the day
[15:34] <asac> so before i get fired i am sliding to weekend mode ;)
[15:36] <gnomefreak> asac: give or take 1 week-whenever we decide to come back. she has off til oct 4th
[15:36] <gnomefreak> asac: have a great weekend.
[15:36] <asac> gnomefreak: where are you going?
[15:37] <gnomefreak> asac: NJ>NYC>NJ>Sicily all this weekend :)
[15:37] <asac> Sicily?
[15:37] <asac> isnt that in italy ;)
[15:38] <asac> wherever. if you are going to a beach or something send a pic ;)
[15:38] <asac> ;)
[15:38] <asac> cu then
[15:40] <gnomefreak> asac: its attached to most southern end. its a different contrey, has its own capital even :)
[15:41] <gnomefreak> i will take pics if we leave hotel ;)
[15:41] <gnomefreak> ok emails done. gone to get ready for airport
[16:01] <fta2> 17h, let's see if it's green today ;)
[16:59] <micahg> ping asac re ff3.6.daily
[17:02] <micahg> asac: I wasn't sure about the things that you mentioned in the merge proposals
[17:02] <micahg> I will do that properly in the future
[17:03] <micahg> I was wondering if that was for trunk only
[17:34] <mconnor> asac: I'm doing what now?
[17:37] <[reed]> mconnor: making sure openSUSE doesn't ship KDE integration patches with Firefox
[17:37] <[reed]> http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration
[17:37] <[reed]> (as in, make sure they upstream the patches)
[17:38] <mconnor> man
[17:38] <mconnor> that's So Not My Job
[17:38] <[reed]> (just repeating what asac/gnomefreak were saying)
[17:39] <mconnor> yeah
[17:39] <mconnor> relayed to appropriate people
[17:40] <[reed]> it looks like an add-on
[17:40] <[reed]> trying to find where the code is now
[17:46] <[reed]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyp5bX_NV6k
[17:46] <[reed]> youtube video of it
[17:47] <[reed]> http://gitorious.org/firefox-kde-opensuse/firefox-kde-opensuse/trees/master
[19:23] <fta> micahg, asac: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31663504/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.firefox-3.7_3.7~a1~hg20090911r32412%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[19:24] <micahg> ugh
[19:24] <micahg> that's a new problem :)
[19:28] <micahg> I'll see what I can do
[19:48] <micahg> fta: I'm testing now
[19:48] <micahg> it's jsut a rebase
[20:10] <micahg> fta: I'm waiting for the test build on LP
[20:18] <micahg> fta: 25 minutes till the test build starts
[21:08] <BUGabundo> guud evening kids
[21:08] <BUGabundo> asac: NM / MM still broken on boot :)
[21:28] <micahg> fta: build succesful and tested
[21:28] <micahg> branch is here: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~micahg/firefox/firefox-3.7.head.daily-patch-rebase-20090911/+merge/11626
[21:29] <micahg> ping asac ^^^
[21:30]  * BUGabundo stupid 3G
[21:33]  * micahg guesses no one is around to fix the dailies
[21:33] <micahg> hi BUGabundo
[21:33] <BUGabundo> hey micahg