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[04:16] <tritium> Good evening.
[04:29] <ubottu> sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (Paddy_NI)
[04:31] <Amaranth> I'm watching
[04:32] <tritium> OK
[05:06] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> Hey guys. I have a great link for !fstab that maybe should be added?
[05:06] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> http://epistel.no/fstab
[05:17] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> How can I append to !fstab? I have a cool link.
[05:31] <steven_> "Hello. zezoz2005 in #ubuntu tried to sent me a file "sex.exe" and I asked somebody and I was told to come here. I want to let you know.  What do I do now? Thank you."
[05:32] <Amaranth> steven_: did it happen when you joined the channel?
[05:34] <steven_> It was while I was receiving help. Apparently xchat has auto-accept by default. Yet for some reason, it did not download
[05:34] <steven_> It still wanted my permission to download it
[05:34] <steven_> I got to believe half the channel saw that person do it
[05:37] <steven_> You guys really ought to ban that guy.  I know Leaf-sheep or whatever saw them do it
[05:42] <Amaranth> steven_: all he saw was you saying it happened
[05:42] <Amaranth> we'll have to see someone else get sent a file from that user before doing anything
[05:42] <Amaranth> it may have been an accident
[05:43] <steven_> heh
[05:43] <steven_> Want a screenshot?
[05:45] <Amaranth> steven_: sure but again, if it only happened once it's not worth banning for
[05:46] <Amaranth> it may have been an accident
[05:47] <steven_> Alright, I will have to settle for him slipping on an ice cube, falling down the stairs and cutting his ass cheek on a razorblade and bleeding ta death, or dying in a fire. Ah well...  Thanks for yer time
[05:48] <Flannel> Now now, that's not really friendly.
[05:49] <steven_> Yer right! May he burn in hellfire and be raped by demons for all eternity :)  Guess I better go now...
[06:18] <ubottu> In ubottu, rww said: !web2.0-#ubuntu-offtopic =~ s#$# | Now with more web2.0! http://twitter.com/ZOMBOCOM#
[08:06] <Myrtti> 23:45 #ubuntu-offtopic: < aubade> Deviantgeek: Myrtti (methinks) cleaned out  the factoids, jealous of everyone else  with someone in their life to scratch  their back.
[08:06] <Myrtti> why - can't - they - let - go
[08:10] <jussi01> cept was me who did lots of cleaning
[08:10] <Myrtti> you tell them that
[08:10] <Myrtti> they wont believe you
[10:26]  * Myrtti tiptoes away from -offtopic
[10:27] <Myrtti> shhhhh don't awaken the monster!
[10:28] <Myrtti> gah, almost answered to Amaranth in there
[10:29] <Amaranth> Myrtti: ?
[10:29] <Flannel> Amaranth: She doesn't want to get glomped
[10:29] <Myrtti> I don't want to wake up monsters in India and in my head
[10:30] <Myrtti> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/02/25/%23ubuntu-ops.html starting 10:45
[10:30] <Myrtti> lol, since when has pidgin supported any video
[10:34] <Amaranth> last release
[10:34] <Amaranth> people who were upset about empathy flipped out and tried to use this as a reason to put pidgin back
[10:34] <Myrtti> wow, so the hell has frozen over
[10:34] <Amaranth> I think they may have finally gotten it included because of empathy
[10:35] <Myrtti> anyway, to escape from ASUS-tek, I'm going to go to the pharmacy
[10:36] <Myrtti> may his internet connection be lost in the meantime
[10:36] <Myrtti> :-<
[10:38] <Amaranth> Myrtti: what nick this time?
[10:49] <Myrtti> indian`
[11:06] <ubottu> Munna called the ops in #ubuntu ()
[11:09] <Amaranth> watching
[11:19] <Gnea> hi, anyone awake?
[11:21] <ikonia> hello gnomefreak
[11:21] <ikonia> hello Gnea even
[11:23] <gnomefreak> hi ikonia
[11:24] <ikonia> gnomefreak: sorry - fat finger typing
[11:24] <ikonia> but hi too
[11:24] <gnomefreak> ikonia: np
[11:25] <ikonia> Amaranth: danger, I'm just in a private conversation about the user you are talking to
[11:29] <Amaranth> ikonia: Well that was rude :/
[11:29] <ikonia> it's fine
[11:29] <Amaranth> ikonia: Probably just a mute?
[11:29] <ikonia> yes,
[11:29] <ikonia> that will do for the moment
[11:30] <Amaranth> either xchat-gnome is broken or that was a regular ban
[11:30] <ikonia> bottom line is he made threats to gnea
[11:30] <ikonia> it was a regular +b
[11:30] <Amaranth> There seems to have been a 3 way argument happening there
[11:30] <ikonia> I've just been given a log of a pm
[11:30] <ikonia> where the user threatens to take away gnea's status as a "helper" "don't you know who I am" etc etc
[11:30] <ikonia> not very happy about ti
[11:31] <Amaranth> hmm
[11:31] <ikonia> I understand the 3 way discussion but threats won't be tollerated like that
[11:31] <Amaranth> Well, he did seem a bit rude overall but I figured part of it was a language thing
[11:31] <Amaranth> Perhaps not
[11:32] <ikonia> he's pig rude to me in pm
[11:32] <ikonia> I'm ignoring it to find out the issue
[11:33] <Amaranth> jussi01: ubottu seems to have died, I believe you run it?
[11:34] <Amaranth> Nevermind, it came back
[11:35] <bazhang> Asuser is Asus-Tek?
[11:35] <ikonia> investigating IP now
[11:35] <bazhang> wow
[11:36] <Amaranth> bazhang: No, Indian` is Asus-Tek
[11:36] <bazhang> Amaranth, aha cheers
[11:37] <ikonia> not asustek
[11:37] <ikonia> ip austiallia
[11:37] <Myrtti> indian` is per ident
[11:38] <bazhang> right; Kavita
[11:39] <Myrtti> also modus operandi
[11:39] <Amaranth> After reading Myrtti's log I'm afraid to ban that one
[11:39] <Myrtti> Amaranth: I'm not going to ban him
[11:39] <bazhang> this is -ot I am guessing
[11:39] <Myrtti> he's not done anything wrong - again
[11:39] <Myrtti> but if he says a word to me, I'm afraid I'll be triggered to being afraid of indians again
[11:40] <Myrtti> he has that effect on me
[11:40] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu Asuser very rude person, states "he will do what he wants" claims he is avoiding the ban just placed in #ubuntu and I can't do anything about it, reported to staff
[11:41] <ikonia> damn bot
[11:41] <bazhang> operation succeeded
[11:42] <Myrtti> snerk
[11:44] <ikonia> he's reporting me to freenode for promoting hacking tools now - very bad troll
[11:49] <ikonia> I have to admit asuser does sound like asus-tek
[11:50] <ikonia> the way he talks and his the asus/asuser link
[11:51] <Amaranth> heck, backtrack isn't even close to hacking tools
[11:51] <Amaranth> and wasn't even what they were trying to talk about
[11:51] <ikonia> Amaranth: it's an obvious troll, and it was used to make threats against gnea
[11:51] <ikonia> "I'll remove you as an ubuntu helper" etc etc
[11:51] <ikonia> his attitude towards me in pm is rude/a joke
[11:51] <ikonia> I've just dropped it now and left the ban
[11:52] <Amaranth> He tried to teach me how to use sudo
[11:52] <ikonia> Amaranth: it was just a random factoid for you to be "random"
[11:53] <gnomefreak> bot down?
[11:53] <Amaranth> well, no, we were talking about root
[11:53] <Amaranth> gnomefreak: yep, it went down, came back, when down again
[11:53] <gnomefreak> Amaranth: thanks
[11:53] <Myrtti> jussi01: poing
[11:53] <Myrtti> gah, my handbag is far far away
[11:56] <ikonia> 11:55 <Asuser> I see that you have a learning disability, so I was a little harsh on you
[11:56] <ikonia> the guy is just an obvious troll, he just keeps pm'ing me with stuff like that
[11:56] <Mamarok> *shakeshead*
[12:29] <bazhang> what's up with migg
[12:31] <ikonia> is he back ?
[12:31] <bazhang> briefly
[12:31] <bazhang> #ubuntu-classroom-chat is official?
[12:32] <ikonia> didn't think so
[12:32] <bazhang> ok thanks
[12:33] <Amaranth> official in what sense?
[12:34] <bazhang> just saw migg in there, never heard of that channel before
[12:35] <bazhang> official in the sense of not #ubuntu-lovers or the like temporary channels people put up
[12:36] <Myrtti> well, it is very much in use on Ubuntu Developer week
[12:36] <Myrtti> the questions to the people keeping the classes are put on -chat from where a moderator chooses and cut-pastes them to -classroom
[12:36] <bazhang> roight ; and I see m a c o has o p s there
[12:37] <Myrtti> ubuntu member cloak should have access too
[12:37] <Myrtti> iirc̈́
[12:44] <Amaranth> yep
[12:48] <Amaranth> I really want to give http://xkcd.com/627/ to some people in #ubuntu :/
[12:49] <Amaranth> "This doesn't work" "Try this alternative" "Why?"
[13:11] <Pici> !test
[13:11] <Pici> oh. no bot. wonderful
[13:12] <nalioth> no bot?
[13:12] <nalioth> ubot3 test
[13:12] <ubot3> sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.
[13:12] <Pici> I'll restart ubottu
[13:12] <Pici> if firefox doesn't crash on me again
[13:17] <bazhang> w00t
[13:18] <nalioth> speaking of woot, tech is really getting cheap (check out the current woot)
[13:18] <Pici> nalioth: I actually bought that earlier ;)
[13:18] <bazhang> hehe
[13:18] <nalioth> Pici: yeah, that's just crazy
[13:18] <Pici> I've been looking for a cheap linux compatible htpc
[13:19] <Pici> dadaabc: Howdy, how can we help you today?
[13:19] <bazhang> he's ban forwarded here
[13:19] <bazhang> running bot/bots
[13:19] <Pici> ah
[13:24] <jrib> !nrg is <alias> iso
[13:24] <ubottu> I'll remember that, jrib
[13:25] <jrib> quad core, wow
[13:25] <jrib> and it comes with vista, yes!
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[13:59] <bazhang> the bot joins its progenitor
[14:08] <Mamarok> Amaranth: I don't think this is even a very bad idea, we could just put it in the topic ;)
[14:10] <bazhang> I will gladly crush f-spot
[14:33] <Myrtti> Graah. Headache :-(
[14:40] <Amaranth> @mark Pip bot abuse
[14:40] <Amaranth> @login
[14:40] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[14:40] <Amaranth> @mark Pip bot abuse
[14:40] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[14:41] <Pici> Amaranth: If you don't specify a channel it'll create logs for the channel you're in... which isn't really helpful if that channel is -ops (at least in this case)
[14:41] <Amaranth> haven't used that in a while :p
[14:41] <Pici> I figured :)
[14:42] <Amaranth> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic Pip bot abuse
[14:42] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[14:42] <Amaranth> like that?
[14:42] <Pici> Looks good to me
[15:05] <ikonia> _____dada: hello
[15:35] <ikonia> _____dada: are you there please ?
[15:52] <ikonia> would someone please remove _____dada with a message telling him to come...
[15:52] <ikonia> oooh
[15:52] <ikonia> hows that for timing
[16:52] <bazhang> is TD a bot? or is that just a script he/she is running (every time pastebin factoid is invoked)
[16:53] <ikonia> doesn't do it in #debian
[16:54] <bazhang> I just PM'ed him/her no response so far
[16:54] <ikonia> or c++
[16:54] <ikonia> if he doesn't respond in the channel I'll forward him here
[16:54] <ikonia> as it's clear it's automation
[16:55] <bazhang> holy cow
[16:59] <ikonia> what did i miss
[17:00] <bazhang> ben64 did a tinyurl.com/poop link and TD gave a response :)
[17:04] <ikonia> ahhh that's a known bot - it's in BT
[17:04] <ikonia> the real name Tyler Durden is known to me in BT for being a bot
[17:05] <bazhang> from 'Fight Club' as well
[17:06] <ikonia> yes, but I've seen it as a bot in #ubuntu a few times and removed it, documented in BT
[17:08] <ikonia> guest58782n=tyler@user-54422ea4.l6.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk
[17:08] <ikonia> that was also him
[17:11] <Myrtti> !away > Whi_afk
[17:49] <Alvinware> lift the ban?
[17:50] <Pici> ?
[17:50] <Pici> ikonia: ^
[17:53] <genii> Man. Who picks an IRC name like:  ^
[17:54] <Myrtti> indeed
[18:39] <Pici> !away > lancien
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[19:52]  * genii sips
[19:57]  * Seeker` nibbles
[20:00] <genii> .my is myanmar ?
[20:02] <genii> nvm, Malasia.. .mm is Myanmar
[20:02]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:14]  * Seeker` gets more cheese
[20:21] <fogobogo> sirs. its been long enough.
[20:22] <fogobogo> time for -b the fogobogo
[20:24] <fogobogo> huhu?
[20:24] <Pici> One moment please.
[20:24] <fogobogo> sure
[20:25] <Pici> fogobogo: You'd need to speak to ikonia regarding this
[20:27] <fogobogo> *sigh* ...again?
[20:27] <fogobogo> ikonia: its been long enough
[20:27] <Pici> fogobogo: Hes the one who is most familiar with your case.
[20:28] <fogobogo> Pici: i doubt it because it 6 months ago!
[20:28] <fogobogo> ikonia: time for -b the fogobogo
[20:32] <fogobogo> Pici: that cold take a while no?
[20:35] <Pici> fogobogo: Depends on when ikonia returns.  Like the last time you were here, I said that the logs were not clear.
[20:36] <fogobogo> *sigh*
[20:36]  * bavardage wants to watch
[20:37] <Pici> bavardage: Er, watch what?
[20:37] <bavardage> fogobogo beg
[20:37] <bavardage> but he isn't doing much of that
[20:38] <bavardage> so I'll be off
[20:41] <fogobogo> Pici: our "heated" discussion i guess
[20:45] <fogobogo> this is getting ridiculous.
[20:48] <Tm_T> what is?
[20:54] <fogobogo> getting unbanned before 2030
[20:55] <Tm_T> unfortunately I cannot help you on that
[20:56] <fogobogo> yeah. noone can
[20:56] <Tm_T> fogobogo: ikonia can?
[20:57] <fogobogo> in 2030 as it seems
[20:57] <fogobogo> also, "the logs arent clear"
[20:57] <Tm_T> (:
[20:58] <Tm_T> just be patient and openminded (:)
[20:59] <fogobogo> i am iam
[21:17] <ikonia> hello
[21:17] <fogobogo> :o
[21:17] <ikonia> apologies for not being around
[21:17] <fogobogo> np
[21:17] <fogobogo> you are now
[21:18] <ikonia> I certainly am
[21:18] <ikonia> ok - so can you give me a reason to lift the ban ?
[21:18] <fogobogo> ok. i have no idea how clear the logs are or why they have to be but methinks its been looooonnnnnggg enough now
[21:19] <fogobogo> 6 months is enough for most
[21:19] <ikonia> no - that's not what I asked, can you give me a reason to lift the ban
[21:19] <fogobogo> ikonia: can you give me a reason to not lift the ban?
[21:19] <ikonia> yes, plenty
[21:19] <ikonia> so explain to me why I should lift the ban
[21:19] <fogobogo> like?
[21:20] <ikonia> I don't need to justify that at this time - I'm asking you for a reason to lift the ban
[21:20] <fogobogo> i have been banned since ages. and "the logs arent clear"
[21:20] <fogobogo> *sigh*
[21:20] <ikonia> the logs are peferctly clear to me as I was involed they wouldn't be clear to others
[21:21] <fogobogo> alright. im a better person now. my cat died and im not that easily distracted now
[21:21] <ikonia> let me help you out a little
[21:21] <fogobogo> sure
[21:21] <ikonia> I've watched you and your friends on multiple times in #archlinux-offtopic openly plan to come and troll #ubuntu and ubuntu related channels, come and do that then complain when they are banned
[21:21] <ikonia> give me a reason why I should think that has changed
[21:22] <ikonia> and when you do not directly troll yourself, you encourage the others and cheer them on in #archlinux-offtopic
[21:22] <ikonia> so I'll ask again - give me a reason why I should unban you as this has gone on long enough
[21:23] <fogobogo> because im not responsible for the actions of others. thats a boolean true in the real life as it is on irc
[21:23] <ikonia> you have done it yourself personally
[21:23] <fogobogo> when
[21:23] <ikonia> and you are responsible for encouraging them and cheering them on
[21:24] <ikonia> when what - when did you do it or encourage it
[21:24] <fogobogo> ah come on. thats not true. if i say ban yourself you wont do it even if i would cheer that
[21:25] <ikonia> that is true - you and a small group in that channel on a regular basis plan to cause a problem and then do it for the others ammusment
[21:25] <fogobogo> theres nothing wrong with that. and i never ever broke some users box or gave ill advice
[21:25] <ikonia> enough is enough of the archlinux-offtopic trolling
[21:26] <fogobogo> so why pick on me then?
[21:26] <ikonia> fogobogo: sorry - I'm not lifting the ban at this time without a good reason as you have all had your changes
[21:26] <ikonia> fogobogo: I've not picked on you, I've banned any of the archlinux-offtopic people I see trolling or planning trolling
[21:26] <Amaranth> I'd say ban them all
[21:26] <fogobogo> ikonia: how could such a proof of good faith possibly look like?
[21:27] <fogobogo> no one can find out unless the ban is lifted right?
[21:27] <ikonia> fogobogo: you must think I'm stupid - do you not think I've watched you discuss it since in #archlinux-offtopic ?
[21:27] <fogobogo> we all know we are watched by ubuntu-ops'
[21:28] <fogobogo> so what?
[21:28] <fogobogo> hi Pricey o/
[21:29] <ikonia> so maybe not finding bans so funny, and trying to be more of a problem is a start
[21:29] <fogobogo> ikonia: and no i dont think you are stupid. just illogical. theres no way in hell i could change your mind
[21:30] <ikonia> I've just explained how you could
[21:30] <fogobogo> [22:29]    ikonia | so maybe not finding bans so funny, and trying to be more of a problem is a start
[21:30] <fogobogo> that?
[21:30] <ikonia> yes
[21:31] <fogobogo> actually the latter part doesnt compute
[21:31] <ikonia> its bad wording bu I'm sure you can guess
[21:31] <fogobogo> "and trying to be more of a problem is a start"???
[21:32] <Myrtti> fogobogo: "not"
[21:32] <fogobogo> no seriously. i have no idea what you mean. theres just no way to prove godd faith in a manner you could notice
[21:33] <fogobogo> i could help old ladies crissing the street all day it wouldnt matter unless i snail mail the receipt
[21:33] <fogobogo> *crossing
[21:33] <ikonia> I explained how you would gain good faith
[21:34] <ikonia> or at least start to
[21:34] <fogobogo> no you didnt. its hazy, its vague and not clear. evading fits here i think
[21:35] <ikonia> ok, I'll be %100 clear
[21:35] <ikonia> 1.) not enouraging people to be a problem in #ubuntu
[21:35] <ikonia> 2.) not laughing joking about getting banned
[21:35] <ikonia> 3.) not joining in when others try to be a problem in any way
[21:35] <ikonia> try that for a sustained period of time
[21:35] <ikonia> and that is a good start
[21:36] <fogobogo> define sustained period of time
[21:36] <ikonia> no
[21:36] <fogobogo> another 6 months?
[21:36] <ikonia> until wer have faith
[21:37] <fogobogo> like... years?
[21:37] <ikonia> unknown
[21:37] <ikonia> you and your friends have a terrible reputation, it will take time to lose it
[21:37] <ikonia> I'm not making a time commitment
[21:37] <fogobogo> and what im supossed to do when others have an idea?
[21:37] <ikonia> this is your own doing - so this is the only real way forward
[21:37] <ikonia> fogobogo: ignore it - don't partipate, maybe get involed with the ops of archlinuix-offtopic and try to get some order
[21:38] <fogobogo> is it like "oh great he idled for the last 6 hours but im sure he has his hands in there"?
[21:38] <ikonia> better still - leave the channel
[21:38] <ikonia> if you don't agree with what's going on - leave the channel
[21:38] <ikonia> apply common sense, if you don't want to be associated with it
[21:39] <fogobogo> yeah sure if it would be that easy. you dont like war but still watch the news
[21:40] <ikonia> please don't make excuses
[21:40] <ikonia> your quite capable of controling your actions
[21:40] <fogobogo> if im not cooking lunch in the meantime
[21:40] <ikonia> what ?
[21:40] <fogobogo> and blam! it was me again
[21:41] <ikonia> take whatever action you feel best
[21:43] <fogobogo> ikonia: though i agree your method might be appropiate i doubt it would be a realistic method.
[21:43] <ikonia> that's how it is - sorry
[21:44] <fogobogo> its just too draconian. fogobogo there + raid happened = fogobogo was it
[21:44] <ikonia> that's your opinion,
[21:44] <ikonia> it's not going to change though
[21:44] <fogobogo> no matter what i said or did
[21:44] <ikonia> maybe you should have thought about this before you and your friends decided to behave stupid and be a problem in the channel
[21:45] <fogobogo> and whilst i fully understand you dont read hours over hours of irc logs all day i think thats well... not fair
[21:46] <fogobogo> so lets settle this.
[21:46] <ikonia> that's sad that you feel that way, but that's how it is - because of you and your friends doing
[21:46] <ikonia> it's settled
[21:48] <fogobogo> so you have no intention to unban me before 2030 unless i got the nobel prize for peace
[21:48] <ikonia> that's not what I said, but if you want to take that attitude/approach - sure, whatever
[21:49] <fogobogo> well im sceptic that will happen anytime soon mainly because im already banned for the last 6 months or so
[21:49] <ikonia> and yet you and your friends still plotted and carried on
[21:50] <fogobogo> no idea. i am banned.
[21:51] <ikonia> you're not banned from archlinux-offtopic where you and your friends persistantly plan to be a problem
[21:51] <ikonia> I guess there is nothing left to discuss at this time, I've made the situation quite clear now
[21:51] <fogobogo> i plan nothing. but yeah. stuff is clearer now
[21:51] <fogobogo> thanks for the time
[21:51] <ikonia> no problem
[21:56] <ikonia> fogobogo: if there is nothing else please leave the channel
[21:57] <ikonia> fogobogo: getting your mates in to #ubuntu to complain about your ban just increases the complaint against you
[21:57] <ikonia> well done
[21:57] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu thewizard more trolling with fogobogo from archlinux-offtopic
[21:57] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[21:58] <ikonia> can someone please remove fogobogo
[21:58] <Myrtti> fogobogo: this would be the last cue for you to ...
[21:58] <ikonia> thank you
[22:45] <ubottu> In ubottu, madberry said: where is etc
[23:43] <Pricey> ikonia: any news on alvin?
[23:43]  * genii sips