[08:39] <davmor2> Morning All
[14:00] <jtatum> jcollado, sorry to email and then just submit merge proposals :) The time I have to work on things is kind of limited by work so I wanted to get something in sooner
[14:31] <jcollado> jtatum: No problem. Quick proposals are fine.
[16:18] <dholbach> jcastro: you? here? :)
[16:19] <jcastro> yes!
[16:19] <jcastro> cr3: ping a ling
[16:19] <cr3> jcastro: pong a long
[16:20] <jcastro> cr3: ok so we are having the ubuntu global jam
[16:20] <jcastro> and I decided "hey wait a minute, a bunch of people with a  bunch of hardware getting together, omg, testing."
[16:20] <dholbach> plars, davmor2: jcastro and I were wondering if we could add some documentation for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing to get people involved for testing during https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[16:21] <dholbach> (2nd to 4th October 2009)
[16:21] <davmor2> dholbach:  I can in a bit but not right now :)
[16:21] <jcastro> cr3: so basically, do you have a page that's the easy "how to run a bunch o tests on a live cd" type page?
[16:21] <dholbach> davmor2: saving the world again?
[16:22] <jcastro> cr3: I was thinking at the minimum we could get a bunch of people running tests. And this is the weekend after beta, so good opportunity.
[16:22] <plars> dholbach: neat, will try to take a look at it , but might be next week before I can get to it
[16:23] <dholbach> plars: if everybody just adds a few bits to it we should be good
[16:23] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams has a lot of general information already
[16:23] <cr3> jcastro: it should be as easy as: Applications -> Administration -> System Testing
[16:23] <dholbach> and Jams/Bugs or Jams/Packaging can probably be used as a template :)
[16:24] <cr3> jcastro: how would you suggest I promote that? I'd be weary to have a wiki page that just contains so little information
[16:24] <jcastro> screenshots?
[16:24] <jcastro> and maybe explain right away how hard we worked to make it easy, etc
[16:25] <cr3> jcastro: sure, where would you suggest we host this page so that it's apparent?
[16:25] <davmor2> cr3: leave it to me dude I'll throw it in free of charge ;)
[16:26]  * cr3 hugs davmor2
[16:26] <jcastro> wow, and that all worked out. :D
[16:26] <cr3> jcastro: you have that effect on people :)
[16:26]  * dholbach can see the love in testing land :)
[16:26] <jcastro> cr3: the jam is right after beta so if you can think of anything to take advantage of a bunch o people getting together with a bunch of hardware ...
[16:27] <cr3> jcastro: I'll be presenting in Montreal during the jam, I'm quite psyched
[16:27] <jcastro> oh excellent
[16:27] <davmor2> jcastro, dholbach: might be useful if you can have a word with slangasek to get a set of images posted to the tracker for that too.
[16:27] <cr3> jcastro: all thanks to komputes though, he's doing an awesome job of annoying me about it :)
[16:27] <davmor2> then people can sign up and log results there :)
[16:28] <jcastro> davmor2: good idea.
[16:28] <slangasek> set of what images?
[16:28] <dholbach> it should be the beta images, I guess
[16:28] <dholbach> 2nd to 4th october, right?
[16:30] <davmor2> slangasek: on friday before the gbj just throw up a clean sheet for gbj for people interest to log bug against basically
[16:30] <slangasek> well if it's the beta images, the beta images will already be on the tracker at that point
[16:32] <davmor2> slangasek: true.
[17:54] <davmor2> cr3: the issue with AAO is that on ubuntu or unr?
[17:55] <cr3> davmor2: I think it's on all
[17:55] <fader_> davmor2: He went to lunch... IIRC it was with both
[17:55] <fader_> cr3: Heh, make a liar out of me
[17:55] <cr3> fader_: I installed the telepathy package, so I can now irc while at lunch
[17:56] <davmor2> telepathy-idle :)
[17:56] <fader_> Hehe
[17:57] <davmor2> I'm running an install in 1 second
[17:58] <davmor2> currently looking at the really weird ubuntu-moblin-remix to track a bug for gruemaster :)
[18:10] <davmor2> cr3, fader_: did you check http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/karmic/ubuntu-netbook-remix/20090911/livecd-20090911-i386.out when it failed ;)
[18:11] <davmor2> have a word with slangasek I'm sure he will oblige with a respin to fix it if you ask really, really nicely :)
[19:15] <davmor2> fader_, cr3: just to let you know I just went to do an install of UNR and it's horrifically broken so that is probably why the fail :)
[19:58] <davmor2> fader_: do me a quick favour please just have a quick read of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing and  ensure it makes sense before I add some images please
[19:58] <davmor2> cr3: ditto ^
[19:59] <fader_> davmor2: For the step "Check if your computer has a cpu with added virtualization: " you might want to include expected output
[19:59] <fader_> i.e. "if it outputs $foo you have it.  If it doesn't output anything, you don't"
[20:00] <davmor2> good point
[20:00] <fader_> davmor2: Looks pretty good... I'm sure it will be even better with screenshots :)
[20:01] <davmor2> fader_: so everything else makes sense?
[20:02] <fader_> davmor2: Yeah, seems to.  But then I have gone through the process myself, so I might have the same blind spots that you do
[20:02] <fader_> I'm sure we'll find out what's missing when people try to use it :)
[20:02] <davmor2> hahahahahahaha
[20:21] <davmor2> fader_: Okay quickly imaged up I need to change the one though
[20:28] <davmor2> jcastro: ping
[20:30] <jcastro> davmor2: pong
[20:30] <davmor2> jcastro: Hopefully https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Testing is the kinda thing you and dholbach are after
[20:30] <jcastro> looking
[20:31] <jcastro> davmor2: that's perfect
[20:31] <jcastro> basically the "bunch of guys in a pub" use-case
[20:32] <jcastro> davmor2: since beta comes out like the day before is it useful to do ISO testing during the Global Jam?
[20:32] <davmor2> jcastro: yes the release will be out by then but it will be useful to get the extra eyes on it too
[20:33]  * jcastro nods
[20:34] <davmor2> jcastro: plus if people do test on hardware and a particular gfx card for example is playing up it can get logged before and hopefully fixed before final
[20:34] <jcastro> right
[20:34] <davmor2> jcastro: so win win :)
[20:35] <jcastro> what I was wondering is for the global jam to just tell people to use the beta .iso, and then after the jam is completed then give them "homework" to test subsequent CDs if they want to keep going
[20:35] <jcastro> davmor2: I've asked teams to submit their calls-for-test and TODOs for the jam
[20:36] <jcastro> so for example if bryce needs a certain kind of card to test on or something we can hopefully use the jam participation to find it
[20:38] <davmor2> jcastro: Sounds like a plan :)  Test ati cards and gnome they suck at the moment ;)