[00:00] <Ademan> xover: i used FreeNX breifly, what are you trying to do with it? in my memory freenx does not connect to your existing session like vnc
[00:00] <Turbolinux> To deisgning internet sites?
[00:00] <trism> Taulus: I used to have to but ubuntu has them by default these days
[00:01] <trism> Taulus: although they seriously messed up the configuration
[00:01] <xover> i want to do exactly that, connect or my existing session
[00:01] <Turbolinux> I triend Nvu, Quanta and Aptana but not very usable.
[00:01] <xover> is that possible?
[00:01] <Ademan> does anyone have any reference materials or tutorials they might point me to for communicating with terminals?  (control characters and whatnot)  I ask because there are a number of things that different programs do that are NOT possible through the traditional curses API, and I'd like some sort of overview for the whole process
[00:01] <Taulus> trism I am having real problems getting my Wacom Intuos working, I need it for blender and really dont want to return to using windows.
[00:01] <quellhorst> anyone have problems with backspace not working after you run a screen session remotely and start say irssi?
[00:02] <cwillu_at_work> Ademan, raw mode is the magic words to google for I believe
[00:02] <Ademan> Turbolinux: there's also Amaya i'm not sure if you'll like it either
[00:02] <Turbolinux> these are not very useable.
[00:02] <Ademan> thanks cwillu_at_work i'll check it out
[00:02] <th0r> Turbolinux: check the kompozer website. There is a bug in the repo version and you need to install the alpha release to get it to work in ubuntu. But I have been  using it and it seems to work fine
[00:03] <Turbolinux> I will try your opinions. Thank you.
[00:03] <trism> Taulus: did you read through the docs here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[00:03] <Taulus> trism I will take a look now.
[00:04] <xTheGoat121x> My system is stuck in low-graphics mode
[00:05] <G-man> okay, im getting back to Ubuntu, and keeping the drivers working this time
[00:05] <G-man> lol
[00:06] <Phase> Where are the icons for various applications stored? (ubuntu logo, firefox logo, the little life raft help logo, etc.
[00:06] <Phase> )
[00:06] <sergiu1> hi, anyone have xp with global-menu?
[00:06] <sergiu1> D
[00:06] <sergiu1> can't add it to panel, says The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GlobalMenu_PanelApplet".
[00:06] <kenthree> do vpn clients need special router configuration? can't get this to work for the life of me
[00:06] <sergiu1> GG
[00:07] <_CommandeR_> Is there a way to fix Ubuntus uber sensitive way of deleting files from flash memory?
[00:07] <Phase> Nevermind, found them. /usr/share/icons
[00:08] <judgen> How do i set usplash to run in 1024x768?
[00:09] <hermitcrabred> Hi!
[00:09] <subone> I run PortableApps from an external hard drive when I am on Windows, so thta my environment is mostly portable. Is it possible to keep the mail files from thunderbird up to date between the external installation and my local linux install? same with firefox bookmarks, etc...
[00:09] <_CommandeR_> hermitcrabred, hi
[00:10] <twint> http://paste.ubuntu.com/268832/plain/
[00:10] <hermitcrabred> Hi...just trying to learn...need to
[00:10] <judgen> brb
[00:10] <Maverick_M4> !installdrivers
[00:10] <Maverick_M4> !drivers
[00:10] <Vampire> dfd
[00:10] <_CommandeR_> !ATI
[00:11] <churl> how do i deal with spaces within folder names in fstab?  quotes and \ before the space doesnt seem to work
[00:11] <hermitcrabred> ...where can I go to better understand how to check md5sum...
[00:11] <_CommandeR_> use ""
[00:11] <twint> Good night someone knows why this error
[00:11] <Guest19097> hi everyone. im trying to figure out how to change my hardware configurations, can someone point me in the right direction?
[00:11] <twint>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/268832/plain/
[00:12] <hermitcrabred> I have an iso file on the desktop but I`m not sure how to check the md5sum
[00:12] <IdleOne> !md5 | hermitcrabred
[00:12] <churl> _CommandeR_: they dont seem to work
[00:12] <Vampire> churl: man fstab
[00:13] <gandhi> is there anyway to use the accelerometer in my laptop to wake up the screen?
[00:13] <hermitcrabred> Thanks IdleOne and ubottu , I really need to learn this...
[00:13] <Vampire> line 37 - 39 to be prcise
[00:13] <hermitcrabred> ..is driving me crazy
[00:13] <Vampire> s/prcise/precise/
[00:13] <IdleOne> hermitcrabred: when you do you wont believe how simple and usefull it is
[00:14] <reaper_frost> does anyone know how to access the hardware configuration?
[00:15] <judgen> i get a odd error when using my usplash.. usplash: setting mode 1024x768 failed.
[00:15] <churl> Vampire: thanks
[00:15] <twint> I did an update on the server with the command sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:15] <bastid_raZor> !usplash | judgen the link tells more
[00:15] <Taulus> Hey Trism. i think I am stuck here, I am new to Ubuntu and Linux and dont know much.
[00:15] <Vampire> yw I just have read it today :-)
[00:15] <ivangarcia__> hi guys, my knetworkmanager cannot connect to WEP wifispots,
[00:15] <garrett__> Hi.  I've got an hp mini 110, and i can get the broadcom network chipset working with the alpha5 live disk, but it's a no go once it's actually installed.  any ideas?  trying to modprobe the b43 driver causes a hard machine lock, with not so much as a whipser in my kernel/sys logs
[00:16] <ivangarcia__> even I put the key
[00:16] <judgen> bastid_raZor: ive done all that...
[00:16] <Taulus> Not sure what I am doing so might have to use windows for blender.
[00:16] <_CommandeR_> ivangarcia__, kubuntu ?
[00:16] <IdleOne> garrett__: #ubuntu+1 for karmic help
[00:16] <garrett__> Idle: thanks
[00:17] <fccf> Taulus: good start here ... www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[00:18] <bastid_raZor> judgen: you need to use vga=794 in the menu.lst
[00:18] <twint> someone help me
[00:19] <judgen> bastid_raZor: i dont have a menu.lst
[00:19] <FlamingFlamingo> hey guys, i turned my comp on today and it said that Ubuntu was running in 'low graphics mode' and that the driver 'intel' couldn't be loaded. so what do i do?
[00:19] <judgen> bastid_raZor: is that info moved over to grub.cfg nowdays?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> FlamingFlamingo: ok Ubuntu 9.04?
[00:19] <churl> Vampire: spaces these can be escaped as     ‘\040’.   means?
[00:19] <FlamingFlamingo> yep
[00:19] <bastid_raZor> judgen: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[00:19] <minime> how can I get cron-apt to run with sufficient privileges without messing with apt's?
[00:19] <Taulus> fccf Thx I will read but need my tablet working soon.
[00:19] <Vampire> just what it says I would think churl
[00:20] <Vampire> Instead of typing a space character you type \040
[00:20] <churl> Vampire: use '\040' for each space?
[00:20] <G-man> is upgrade/downgrade smoother via terminal or what
[00:20] <Vampire> I think so, I didn't try it yet
[00:20] <judgen> bastid_raZor: karmic
[00:20] <churl> Vampire: k
[00:20] <Vampire> I just have read the man page earlier this day
[00:21] <Casandrax> G-man: Nope
[00:21] <bastid_raZor> judgen: you should ask in #ubuntu+1 .. as of 9.04 still using a menu.lst and grub1.5 ..
[00:21] <IdleOne> !downgrade
[00:21] <G-man> so its always best to use cd or what?
[00:21] <G-man> ah
[00:21] <sebsebseb> FlamingFlamingo: so your graphics are bad?
[00:21] <G-man> brb restart
[00:21] <sebsebseb> !intel |  FlamingFlamingo
[00:21] <FlamingFlamingo> thanks ill try those
[00:22] <sebsebseb> FlamingFlamingo: basically if you got a  Intel graphics card your better off with Ubuntu 8.10 for now,  altough 9.10 comes out on the 29th of  October, and that apparantly has the Intel issue fixed
[00:23] <FlamingFlamingo> sebsebseb: well see it worked fine literally 2 days ago (im going on my 6 month with ubuntu) and so i was just like 'what the heck' you know? but it might have been my fault
[00:23] <reaper_frost> does anyone know how to configure hardware to change what video output you use in 9.04?
[00:23] <Tim__> sebsebseb: I'm on an Intel graphics card right now
[00:23] <Tim__> 9.04 Jaunty
[00:24] <Tim__> Also, FlamingFlamingo, what's the problem you're having?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> FlamingFlamingo  Tim__  ok well it depends on the card if  the xorg in 9.04 is bad or not etc,  but yes there are people that have gone back to 8.10, because of issues with Intel graphic cards in 9.03
[00:24] <sebsebseb> 9.04
[00:24] <arooni-mobile> hi team.  i have just installed ubuntu jaunty onto a core2dubo box i built a year ago. it freezes (mouse and keyboard are unresponsive) up (even caps lock doesnt work) within 10 minutes of logging into ubuntu.  i have already ran memtest86+ overnight, found out cpu is at 46*c, and i'm at my wits end. i have built a duplicate machine running ubuntu hardy without any problems.  ideas?
[00:24] <churl> Vampire: it seems to work '\040' then leave out the space
[00:24] <FlamingFlamingo> well you see, i think i accidentally uninstalled the xorg intel driver and idk how to get it back
[00:24] <Vampire> thought so
[00:25] <sebsebseb> FlamingFlamingo: system > administration > hardware drivers, maybe
[00:25] <G-man> okay now im back in ubuntu
[00:25] <Tim__> ^ This
[00:25] <Casandrax> reaper_frost: there are a few guis to try, then theres always the terminal if those doesnt work. Search google for: xorg configure gui or something
[00:25] <first> hay guys i want to play xbox live. how do you bridge connection on unbuntu
[00:25] <FlamingFlamingo> nah:( that never comes up with anything
[00:25] <G-man> isn't there  a shortcut to scroll to next desktop space
[00:26] <Casandrax> first: toss the playbox out the window :P
[00:26] <dennis_> rofl
[00:26] <Tim__> FlamingFlamingo: Open terminal and type "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-intel"
[00:26] <Tim__> Without the quotes
[00:26] <IdleOne> G-man: ctrl-alt-arrow
[00:26] <G-man> kk ty
[00:26] <first> can any one help me
[00:26] <FlamingFlamingo> says it couldn't find it
[00:26] <fccf> Casandrax: not to scold... but it is best to find out what kind of video hardware a person has before sending them to google ... reaper_frost: really depends on your hardware
[00:26] <Casandrax> last
[00:27] <sebsebseb> !ask | first
[00:27] <Tim__> FlamingFlamingo: Try "sudo apt-get install 915resolution xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[00:27] <Tim__> Wait, hold that thought
[00:27] <Tim__> Okay, that should work.
[00:27] <first> how do you bridge connections
[00:28] <G-man> how do i get bottom panel back?
[00:28] <FlamingFlamingo> oh nvm, you just left off the xserver part for the first one
[00:28] <dennis_> does somebody know if there is a dutch irc ubuntu channel?
[00:28] <frogzoo> !nl
[00:28] <FlamingFlamingo> but for some reason its not connecting to the archive.... its been at 0% for like 1 minute already
[00:28] <Tim__> FlamingFlamingo: Hmm....
[00:28] <reaper_frost> fccf: ATI Radeon X1600 series
[00:28] <dennis_> dank je ubottu ;)
[00:29] <FlamingFlamingo> can i download it online
[00:29] <first> hay guys i need halp how do you bridge Internet connections on unbuntu
[00:29] <jordo2323> I am trying to mount a vfat drive in fstab but can't get read write.  Here is my fstab: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m466689e  I just can't get the options right at the end. Can anyone check?
[00:29] <Casandrax> first: google
[00:30] <frogzoo> first you want bridge-utils
[00:30] <MadSeaDog> any good tool to recover a damaged video?
[00:30] <Tim__> FlamingFlamingo: I'm looking
[00:30] <jcameron103> need help trying to install flashfxp
[00:30] <FlamingFlamingo> me too
[00:30] <helloyo> does anyone know why i can't execute scripts on my samba share?
[00:31] <Casandrax> MadSeaDog: A bit of money to buy a new one ?
[00:31] <jcameron103> keep getting a dll file registration issue
[00:31] <first> frogzoo im not sure, i just want to bridge the lan and Internet connections
[00:31] <Tim__> FlamingFlamingo: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/driver/xf86-video-intel-2.8.99.901.tar.gz
[00:31] <MadSeaDog> Casandrax,  well the goal is to avoid having to do that...
[00:31] <Tim__> Download that and I'll [try to] walk you through compiling and installing
[00:32] <FlamingFlamingo> yeah i downloaded it
[00:32] <e370> I Put a dvd in and this came up on movie player "Could not open location; you might not have permission to open the file."
[00:32] <The_Jag> Hi all, I'd like to know how to disable the auto detection of new usb device.
[00:32] <Casandrax> MadSeaDog: You mean vcr or a tape ?
[00:32] <Tim__> Okay, give me a minute
[00:32] <G-man> guys
[00:33] <G-man> can u help me get my bottom panel back?
[00:33] <bastid_raZor> !panels | G-man
[00:33] <MadSeaDog> Casandrax,  well i mean low quality damaged... to listenable...
[00:34] <The_Jag> anyone has solution for this?
[00:34] <e370> how do i play dvds on ubuntu?
[00:34] <frogzoo> !dvd
[00:35] <snxdp2> hi.. is firestarter a fullworthy firewall?
[00:35] <Casandrax> MadSeaDog: Im guessing the answer could be something like moisturize it with something like a tape/vcr cleaner combo
[00:36] <G-man> nothing happened
[00:36] <G-man> lol
[00:37] <MadSeaDog> Casandrax,  any software to do it?
[00:37] <zagabar1> The notification that says if you got mail when you log in into a terminal, where can I configure the location for the mailbox for that notification? It says that I have no mails even though I  have
[00:38] <MadSeaDog> Casandrax,  i got it in .avi already...
[00:38] <snxdp2> @g-man, i see u are the "guru" man here.. que-pasa hombre??
[00:38] <Casandrax> MadSeaDog: Hardware issues means hardware solutions... moist could mean water vapour or something a bit more sticky perhaps. Im just guessing here though.
[00:38] <Casandrax> avidemux ?
[00:38] <Casandrax> with some trixx
[00:39] <MadSeaDog> ok will try this thanks...
[00:39] <G-man> lol, im trying to get my lower bar back
[00:39] <G-man> accidentally removed it
[00:40] <kd8JHC> G-man: right click on the top panel, hit Add Panel
[00:40] <kd8JHC> then move the new panel to the bottom
[00:40] <The_Jag> please no one?
[00:40] <G-man> rofl...no icons
[00:43] <NoCode> Why does AppArmour fail when loading when I start my computer?
[00:43] <hermitcrabred> ...Got to go, don`t qhite understand the md5 but I do appreciate all the help!
[00:43] <xTheGoat121x> xorg seems to detect the wrong resolution for me
[00:43] <manword342> hi im looking for a RSS reader (software) (mode bar of scrolling) for desktop ; any idéa ??
[00:43] <joshag> having problems with update manager? anyone else
[00:43] <xmnt_> manword342, liferea
[00:44] <reaper_frost> the only thing that google turned up was xorg-edit which doesn't work for 64-bit
[00:44] <kd8JHC> joshag: update manager working fine here'
[00:44] <joshag> unable to connect to the repositories
[00:44] <mrwes> joshag, you must be using a mirror site
[00:44] <G-man> well... i downgraded from xubuntu but now everytime i restart, it tells me that xubuntu cant be found
[00:44] <The_Jag> is there a good batch renamer?
[00:44] <G-man> and i have to click okay
[00:44] <G-man> for the visuals i guess
[00:45] <G-man> or upgraded.. rather
[00:45] <mrwes> joshag, open software sources and change the 'download from' setting
[00:46] <reaper_frost> Casandrax: the only thing that google turned up was xorg-edit which doesn't work for 64-bit
[00:47] <G-man> well how do i get my applications to minimize to the top bar?
[00:47] <joshag> only two sources "main" "united states"
[00:48] <Casandrax> reaper_frost: There are many, both CLI and GUI. Youll find a way. Ill re later
[00:48] <kd8JHC> G-man right click the bottom panel (they're called panels, not bars) and tell it to put it up top
[00:48] <joshag> result is same with both
[00:49] <seidos-> completely and utterly?  what irc client do you use?
[00:49] <manword342> hi im looking for a RSS reader (software) (mode bar of scrolling)  ; any idéa ??
[00:49] <G-man> thats just it... the bottom panel isn't there anymore... and when i make one things dont minimize to it, so i figured i would just make them go up to the top
[00:50] <The_Jag> still no one has a solution for my problem?
[00:51] <prower> hello :> having a weird problem with rhythmbox, when i import all of my songs some of them are being listed twice?
[00:51] <Hermanon> is it possible to close udp connections?
[00:51] <G-man> nm- got it
[00:52] <kd8JHC> good
[00:53] <dmem2009> whoami dmem2009
[00:53] <joshag> new desktop install of 9.04 and update manager gets hung up and returns replies that it cannot connect to most sites
[00:53] <joshag> never happened before
[00:54] <Hermanon> is it possible to close udp connections?
[00:55] <grom358> I can't run the memtest option. I get Error 28: Selected item cannot fit into memory
[00:55] <grom358> I found this bug on launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/227062)
[00:55] <joshag> since morning all 9.04 updates get hung up and do not complete.
[00:55] <grom358> It says solved, but I got no idea what the solution to this problem is
[00:55] <kudi> can i bypass dms encryption
[00:58] <seidos-> I just started using irssi
[00:59] <grom358> someone mentions removing savedefault option, but I don't have this option on already
[01:00] <alybabe356> hello
[01:00] <seidos-> hello
[01:00] <jtisme> anyone know if the us.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[01:01] <djanatyn> Hello :D
[01:01] <seidos-> anyone use irssi here?
[01:01] <lstarnes> seidos-: why do you ask?
[01:01] <djanatyn> I installed xubuntu a while ago on my PC, but experienced a lot of problems with GRUB.
[01:02] <djanatyn> let me explain.
[01:02] <seidos-> lstarnes: I'm curious how to switch rooms.  do you just type /j #channel?
[01:02] <lstarnes> seidos-: yes
[01:02] <lstarnes> seidos-: you don't switch channels.  You join and leave separate channels
[01:02] <lstarnes> seidos-: you can switch windows within irssi using /win <number>
[01:02] <lstarnes> seidos-: e.g. /win 2
[01:03] <jtisme> seidos, yes that should work
[01:03] <seidos-> lstarnes: ah, /win <number>
[01:03] <nathandelane> I am trying to figure out what I need to do to get PHP working on Apache on a latest Ubuntu Desktop installation. I have installed php5, apache2 and the apache php module. When I try to load a php file in my browser from /var/www (for example http://localhost/test.php) it tries to download instead of parsing the file. When I look at /etc/apache2/httpd.conf it is empty. So what am I doing wrong?
[01:03] <lstarnes> seidos-: I also have /w <number> and a modified script for /<number>
[01:03] <libtech> in firefox in the downloads window, i try to right-click a file and select open containing folder. however, it prompts me to choose an application instead of just opening the directory for me. any way to fix this?
[01:03] <lstarnes> seidos-: there is alt+[0-9] and alt+[q-p]
[01:04] <seidos-> lstarnes: interesting, my first experience with /win 2 was confusing.  I think I need to practice.
[01:04] <jordo2323> I can't for the life of me get a vfat drive to allow me to write to it. Here is my fstab entry:  /dev/sdb1       /media/MEDIA    vfat    users,umask=000 0 0
[01:04] <franck> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/427615
[01:05] <tmaeus-k> a user called timaeus-k can see the content of a dir of another owner???
[01:06] <lstarnes> tmaeus-k: it depends on what the permissions of that directory are
[01:06] <mathix> Hi, I'm using mutella on 8.04 and I can't find the mutellarc file nor can I set up a connection.  Can someone help?
[01:06] <icarus> i keep geting an error desktop effects cannot be enabled although they were working fine earlier today
[01:06] <tmaeus-k> thanks im just a rookie on this
[01:06] <tmaeus-k> :p
[01:08] <aj_444> how do I remove all panels in gnome?
[01:08] <seidos-> lstarnes: thank you
[01:08] <bruenig> aj_444: killall gnome-panel
[01:08] <lstarnes> aj_444: why do you need to remove all of them?
[01:08] <mathix> Hi, I'm using mutella on 8.04 and I can't find the mutellarc file nor can I set up a connection.  Can someone help?
[01:08] <bruenig> I think it respawns actually
[01:08] <lstarnes> seidos-: there is also #irssi
[01:08] <bruenig> but in a perfect world
[01:08] <dm-madman> hey ubuntu ppl
[01:09] <aj_444> istarnes: I'm running kubuntu on top of regular ubuntu.. and the gnome panels are there. They don't need to be.
[01:09] <bastid_raZor> seidos-: also check out this. http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
[01:09] <lstarnes> aj_444: re you running the kde desktop?
[01:09] <lstarnes> *are
[01:09] <dm-madman> my friend is using ubuntu and he has no internet
[01:09] <aj_444> bruenig: do I type that into the terminal?
[01:09] <bruenig> aj_444: yes
[01:09] <dm-madman> i think you guys use apt-get or something, right?
[01:09] <G-man> is there any way to get totem to play all video links when trying to watch movies on the web?
[01:09] <aj_444> istarnes: Mhm.
[01:09] <kd8JHC> dm-madman: yes...?
[01:10] <dm-madman> kd8JHC: I'd like to download a mirror and put it on dvds for him or something
[01:10] <aj_444> bruenig: will I have to do that each time I log in, or will it remember?
[01:10] <bruenig> aj_444: each time probably
[01:10] <bruenig> I mean gnome is a beast, it is unweildy
[01:10] <dm-madman> kd8JHC: is this something that could be achieved fairly simply
[01:10] <bruenig> put it in a startup command or something
[01:11] <bruenig> if you are removing the panels, you might as well just roll with another wm
[01:11] <bruenig> and get rid of gnome altogether
[01:11] <kd8JHC> dm-madman: doubtful
[01:11] <aj_444> bruenig: how do I totally remove gnome?
[01:11] <dm-madman> kd8JHC: i figured there was a main repository for apt
[01:11] <mathix> Can someone help me with set up of an app?
[01:11] <freebee> how to make conky stay above other windows and really transparent ?
[01:11] <seidos-> does irssi have notifications when a message is received in one window when you're currently active in another win?
[01:11] <dm-madman> kd8JHC: for the ubuntu stuff at least
[01:11] <kd8JHC> dm-madman: the system will download the updates it needs from a variety of repositories
[01:12] <kd8JHC> you won't be able to download all the content
[01:12] <bruenig> aj_444: not sure how ubuntu has that setup
[01:12] <lstarnes> seidos-: it changes the color of the window's number in the "Act:" section of the status bar
[01:12] <dm-madman> kd8JHC: how does it know where to get them, some kind of config that lists them i assume?
[01:12] <seidos-> lstarnes: thank you, your message demonstrated this.
[01:13] <dm-madman> kd8JHC: there must be some way to get the packages without internet
[01:13] <kd8JHC> dm-madman: sort of, the repositories are listed in a file "sources.list" in /etc/apt
[01:13] <G-man> On those movie/tv show websites... that usually have internal video or media players, is there any way i can get totem to run, when i click on the link to view the video ?
[01:13] <lstarnes> dm-madman: put the packages on a cd then install them from the cd
[01:13] <xTheGoat121x> If I look through my xOrg.0.log file, I see that the resolution for my monitor has been autodetected HIGHER than is supported... does anyone know a way to fix that? Reconfiguring xorg doesn't help.
[01:13] <lstarnes> also
[01:13] <lstarnes> !aptoncd | dm-madman
[01:13] <kd8JHC> there you go
[01:13] <kd8JHC> or easier, find an internet connection
[01:14] <kd8JHC> they aren't too hard to find these days
[01:14] <dm-madman> ubottu: i would like to do something like that for him, but i do not have apt-get
[01:14] <lstarnes> dm-madman: which OS are you using?
[01:14] <aleskandro> hi all, I've a hp pavilion dv6 1123, and some issues with audio drivers... I installed tha latest version of alsa and the audio is ok, but if I connect my headphone I listen music both from headphones and speakers... How can I disable speakers output?
[01:14] <dm-madman> oh ubottu is a bot lol
[01:14] <xmnt_> dm-madman, ubottu isn't real
[01:14] <sebsebseb> !bot |  dm-madman
[01:14] <sebsebseb> dm-madman: a female bot yeah
[01:14] <joshuasouth> aleskandro: Check your audio settings.
[01:14] <sebsebseb> !gender |  dm-madman
[01:15] <seidos-> is it possible (without changing source) to copy and paste text in irssi without using the mouse?
[01:15] <xmnt_> !hot
[01:15] <dm-madman> until i scrolled back and saw lstarnes query to him i didn't realize
[01:15] <dm-madman> lol
[01:15] <sebsebseb> dm-madman: him as in ubottu?
[01:15] <dm-madman> I use gentoo
[01:15] <aleskandro> joshuasouth: how can I do that?
[01:15] <dm-madman> it
[01:16] <xmnt_> aleskandro, you need to request permission from the overloards of  the internet
[01:16] <dm-madman> s/him/it/
[01:16] <sebsebseb> dm-madman: no she is  a female bot
[01:16] <sebsebseb> !gender
[01:16] <dm-madman> yeah, whatever
[01:16] <sebsebseb> dm-madman: heh
[01:16] <pitput> I want to repair grub using the live cd. I want to use the GUI way to repair grub and I read a guide where I have to select "manual partition" but from there I can't "mount" the drives as it says in the guide. Any suggestions?
[01:16] <xmnt_> pitput, the cli way is much easier
[01:16] <G-man> On those movie/tv show websites... that usually have internal video or media players, is there any way i can get totem to run, when i click on the link to view the video ?
[01:16] <Irishmanluke> I did not know that ubottu was a female bot, that's funny
[01:17] <dm-madman> so if i was to look at the sources.list, i could probably browse those repositories and download at least some of it for him
[01:17] <pitput> xmnt_, I know. People have been telling me. but I just can't get it to work
[01:17] <pitput> xmnt_, the gui way would probably be best for me
[01:17] <sebsebseb> !piracy >  G-man
[01:17] <kd8JHC> G-man probably not if it's an embedded flash player such as on youtube
[01:17] <kd8JHC> or Hulu
[01:17] <Irishmanluke> !piracy > Irishmanluke
[01:17] <migg>  #whitesource
[01:17] <dm-madman> and once i did that, where would he put them?  there must be a directory that apt will check before trying to download
[01:17] <sebsebseb> G-man: well I guess not if it's Hulu for example to the  piracy thing
[01:18] <lstarnes> dm-madman: you can use dpkg -i filename.deb instead of apt-get
[01:18] <dm-madman> oh apt-get downloads debian packages
[01:18] <syntex> aleskandro: Up in the top right hand corner, there should be a speaker icon. Click on that and go to audio properties or whatever it is. I'm currently not in Ubuntu so I can't find the correct termonoligy for you.
[01:18] <lstarnes> dm-madman: or copies them from a repo on a local fileystem
[01:19] <Flannel> dm-madman: apt-get downloads files to /var/cache/apt/
[01:19] <pitput> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268854/              I get stuck on step 4. Any suggestions?
[01:19] <xmnt_> dm-madman, apt-get is a package manager ... it handles packages and their dependencies ... doesn't mean you'll always get the most up2date packages though
[01:19] <dm-madman> ah so basically if he just dumped the whole cd i send in there he could apt-get all that stuff easy
[01:19] <Flannel> pitput: "stuck"?
[01:19] <lstarnes> dm-madman: it would need to use the apt repository format
[01:19] <kd8JHC> he would use dpkg to install them, not apt
[01:19] <lstarnes> dm-madman: aptoncd can handle that
[01:20] <lstarnes> dm-madman: or you can use dpkg -i file.deb instead of apt-get
[01:20] <pitput> Flannel, yeah, the "mount" option is not available after selecting manual partition
[01:20] <dm-madman> lstarnes: i do not have these utilities
[01:20] <xmnt_> pitput, your playing with fire there
[01:20] <lstarnes> dm-madman: or dpkg -i /path/to/packages/*.deb
[01:20] <Flannel> pitput: "use as" it might be labeled
[01:20] <kd8JHC> dm-madman i recommend you find him an internet connection
[01:20] <sebsebseb> G-man: for not to
[01:20] <dm-madman> lstarnes: i do not believe they are available for gentoo...
[01:20] <djanatyn> Hey, quick question. I have xubuntu installed on my computer, and I recently switched to xubuntu on my PowerPC. I need to get rid of xubuntu on my old PC now, though, and retain Win XP. Will simply deleting the xubuntu partition work, or do I need to do something special to uninstall GRUB?
[01:20] <pitput> Flannel, It won't let me proceed if I don't select anything
[01:21] <SnowKitty> hello
[01:21] <lstarnes> dm-madman: they likekly aren't, but can probably be ported
[01:21] <johannes_> hi, does suspend to ram work with ubuntu 9.10 and fglrx?
[01:21] <lstarnes> *likely
[01:21] <SnowKitty> i need some help
[01:21] <dm-madman> kd8JHC: i'm not buying him internet, i'll send him some cds though LOL
[01:21] <sebsebseb> !hi |  SnowKitty
[01:21] <sebsebseb> !ask |  SnowKitty
[01:21] <Flannel> pitput: Right, go to each partition and choose a "use as" or maybe it's "mount point" (and make sure you have them set to not format)
[01:21] <barry_> hi folks.  is there any way to get the livecd to not start up x?  i'm trying to live boot karmic alpha 5 on a machine w/ati hd4670 and the display is completely corrupted.  i don't want to install karmic yet though, thus livecd
[01:21] <jarjar> how do i change the authentication method(su/sudo) in ubuntu 8.04?
[01:21] <SnowKitty> my mom accidentally removed the icon at the top menu that shows the signal strength/wireless connection
[01:21] <leaf-sheep> djanatyn: If you don't have a Windows XP (dual-boot), you'll have to obtain a Windows XP disc and install it.
[01:21] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  barry_
[01:21] <SnowKitty> how do i get that little menu back on?
[01:22] <pitput> xmnt_, I'm out of options. I think that is the only way. I tried changing hd0,0 to hd0,1 and neither of them let me boot up windows 7
[01:22] <SnowKitty> running 9.04 if that helps
[01:22] <xmnt_> pitput, were you missing the options in grub?
[01:22]  * barry_ -> #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <biovore> jarjar: how you mean "authentication methods"?
[01:22] <lstarnes> SnowKitty: I think that is nm-applet
[01:22] <Flannel> pitput: If GRUB boots to the grub menu, the alterate install reinstall GRUB thing isn't going to help
[01:22] <xmnt_> pitput, or i guess the ability to select windows?
[01:22] <leaf-sheep> SnowKitty: What menu? Right-Click on the top/bottom panel and "Add to Panel" and type in "menu"
[01:22] <pitput> xmnt_, no. I "see" my option, but when I choose it, it says mission bootmgr
[01:22] <kd8JHC> yes, nm-applet
[01:23] <sebsebseb> SnowKitty: it's also easy to reset panals back to defaults
[01:23] <sebsebseb> !panal |  SnowKitty
[01:23] <SnowKitty> how do i do that
[01:23] <sebsebseb> !panel |  SnowKitty
[01:23] <leaf-sheep> !resetpanel | SnowKitty
[01:23] <sebsebseb> !panels
[01:23] <xmnt_> did you look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:23] <mathix> Can someone give me a hand with a quick problem I got?
[01:23] <biovore> !ask
[01:23] <sebsebseb> !ask |  mathix
[01:24] <pitput> Flannel, xmnt_   I could boot ubuntu just fine. It's windows 7 beta I'm having trouble booting. So repairing grub won't make windows 7 selectable?
[01:24] <xmnt_> pitput, did you look in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:24] <SnowKitty> okay, ill try that now
[01:24] <SnowKitty> brb
[01:24] <kd8JHC> mathix go with your question
[01:24] <Flannel> pitput: No, repairing GRUB just lets you boot to GRUB, you're having a GRUB configuration issue
[01:24] <pitput> xmnt_, yes I did. I tried changing the hd0,0 to hd0,1 and still doesn't work
[01:24] <biovore> pitput: need to add an entry into menu.lst file so grub know it can boot windows and where it is.
[01:24] <Um_cara_qualquer> how do i format my pen drive?
[01:25] <jrib> Um_cara_qualquer: gparted
[01:25] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: man mkfs
[01:25] <mathix> I'm doing a project and for that I need to run Mutella.  It says that the config file is called mutellarc but I can't find it even with a search and I can't get any connection going.  Can anyone help?
[01:25] <xmnt_> pitput, pastebin your menu.lst
[01:25] <djanatyn_> sorry about that
[01:25] <FlamingFlamingo> hey guys, i wanna upgrade to alpha 5, if I install it from a usb, will I be able to keep all my settings  and things like Music, Pictures, Documents?
[01:25] <pitput> Flannel, xmnt_  here is what I have and changing to hd0,0 or hd0,1 won't make it boot, so I am confused
[01:25] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  FlamingFlamingo
[01:26] <pitput> Flannel, xmnt_ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268857/
[01:26] <Flannel> pitput: Please pastebin the output of `sudo fdisk -l` (that's a lower case L)
[01:26] <FlamingFlamingo> join #ubuntu+1
[01:26] <FlamingFlamingo> oops
[01:26] <Um_cara_qualquer> hmmm dm-madman it shows and error when i press "mkfs.vfat -c -v /dev/sdc1" it start to search for errors...
[01:26] <djanatyn_> leaf-green: I currently have WinXP and xubuntu dual booting using GRUB. Will simply deleting the xubuntu partition using the live CD cause WinXP to boot on default?
[01:27] <pitput> Flannel, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268858/
[01:27] <Flannel> djanatyn_: Probably not.  (It might though, under certain configurations, you likely aren't configured that way though))
[01:27] <pitput> Flannel, the smaller partition is windows 7
[01:27] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: without seeing what the error is, i can't really help you :p
[01:27] <Flannel> pitput: sda1 or sda4?
[01:27] <nosun> anyone here using adsl without a router on vista?
[01:27] <pitput> Flannel, sda1
[01:28] <lstarnes> nosun: ##windows is the channel for windows, not #ubuntu
[01:28] <Flannel> nosun: Try ##windows
[01:28] <Flannel> pitput: That's hd0,0
[01:28] <dm-madman> nosun: wrong channel
[01:28] <Flannel> pitput: What does booting to hd0,0 give you? error? nothing? black?
[01:28] <djanatyn_> flannel: so what do I need to do to get xubuntu and GRUB removed? Can I remove GRUB from my xubuntu live CD? unfortunately, I've lost my WinXP cd.
[01:28] <pitput> Flannel, it gives me "missing bootmgr"
[01:29] <migg> alguem português
[01:29] <migg> ??
[01:29] <pitput> Flannel, and after that, I would need to fix grub all over again
[01:29] <biovore> !br
[01:29] <Flannel> djanatyn_: You need to replace the windows bootloader (ideally).  You should ask in ##windows if there's any easy way to do that.  If there isn't, there's some more options we have (we can always use GRUB by itself, without a full linux install, that just requires some manual things)
[01:29] <migg> ok
[01:29] <TTNK> my usb transfers are very slow, how can i make them faster? it seems like usb1 instead of usb2
[01:29] <gandhi> um
[01:29] <gandhi> you might wanna check your bios on that one
[01:29] <cornet> TTNK: transfers from what ?
[01:29] <Flannel> pitput: What that means is that Vista's boot manager is... well, I have no idea what that error means specifically, but that means thatGRUB is handing it off, and then Windows is dropping the ball somehow.
[01:30] <TTNK> cornet just to transfer to an usb pen from my computer and backto other computer
[01:30] <pitput> Flannel, so that means I should just boot windows 7 beta and then use a bootloader for windows?
[01:30] <cornet> TTNK: could it be the USB key ?
[01:31] <cornet> TTNK: some of them are frightfully slow
[01:31] <TTNK> cornet dont thinks so, i have many usb and it happens with all of them, i have 4 computers too and it happens with all of them too
[01:32] <cornet> TTNK: all computers the same ?
[01:32] <Flannel> pitput: I'm not sure, I don't have any win7 bootloader experience
[01:32] <TTNK> cornet yes, it starts fast but it decreases the speed
[01:32] <sebsebseb> pitput: Grub can also boot Windows 7 (Vista Version 2)
[01:33] <pitput> sebsebseb, how can I get that to work?
[01:33] <sebsebseb> pitput: as far as I know, exactly  the same way as  previous versions of Windows
[01:33] <pitput> Flannel, thank you for all your help! Now I know it's not a grub problem booting windows 7, but the configuration.
[01:33] <cornet> TTNK: have you done some tests with dd or bonnie to see if  exactly what the rate of transfer is ?
[01:33] <Um_cara_qualquer> dm-madman, http://img38.imageshack.us/i/errorbl.png/
[01:34] <pitput> sebsebseb, I really don't know. I changed the hd0,0 and that didn't seem to make it boot
[01:34] <TTNK> cornet i was reading this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ext3-usb-hd-slow-transfer-rates-ubuntumanual-mount-646506/ i dont know if its outdated, and i couldnt find where to change tofix it,thesolution is in post #7
[01:34] <SnowKitty> hey
[01:34]  * cornet looks
[01:34] <SnowKitty> thanks guys, that command worked great
[01:34] <sebsebseb> pitput: yeah I haven't looked at your pastebins, I might later
[01:34] <sebsebseb> pitput: which is on the first Windows or Ubuntu?
[01:34] <TTNK> cornet no i havent, i have just been using nautilus
[01:35] <sebsebseb> SnowKitty: good :) and no probs
[01:35] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: it just says it's searching for bad blocks
[01:35] <pitput> sebsebseb, the first four are ubuntu and the last one is supposed to boot windows 7 beta
[01:35] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: that's no error
[01:35] <amagee> hey, supposing i have a diff file in the normal diff format, is there some tool i can use to graphically navigate through the changes described in that file?
[01:35] <Um_cara_qualquer> dm-madman, ok... how can i format it?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> pitput: the first four are Ubuntu hmm,  that sounds a little odd already,  i'll have a look at the pastebins I guess
[01:35] <pitput> sebsebseb, here are the pastebins so you don't need to find them.        http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268857/                   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/268858/
[01:35] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: that is what you did
[01:36] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: or are doing
[01:36] <monte> hello
[01:36] <Um_cara_qualquer> dm-madman, ok brow... i get it... now how can i format it? X_X
[01:36] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: are you fuckin with me
[01:36] <Um_cara_qualquer> ...
[01:37] <Um_cara_qualquer> go f*** yourself
[01:37] <cornet> TTNK: ok you need to add those options to the kernel boot line
[01:37] <monte> i need help. i minimize my windows and at the bottom they disappear?
[01:37] <monte> on the bottom bar
[01:37] <jordo2323> I am trying to write to a mounted vfat but can't as root or as my user.  I have tried every set of vfat fstab options there are. Any ideas?
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !language |   dm-madman
[01:37] <TTNK> cornet i dont know how to do it, can you tell me please how?
[01:37] <dm-madman> Um_cara_qualquer: the command you ran will format it, is formatting it, or was formatting it when you took the screenshot :p
[01:38] <jenistin> losher: I have debug output now if you're around
[01:38] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok in your first pastebin,  those aren't  Ubuntu partitions,   they are Linux kernels
[01:38] <dm-madman> yeah, sorry
[01:38] <monte> i need help. i minimize my windows and at the bottom they disappear?
[01:38] <TTNK> monte maybe you dont have a bottom bar to hold them
[01:38] <cornet> TTNK: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions about 1/2 way down the page, you want the section entitled "Change Boot Options Temporarily For An Existing Installation"
[01:38] <pitput> sebsebseb, hmm. so I should change the chainloader to +4?
[01:39] <sebsebseb> pitput: can you do a screenshot of gparted?  sudo apt-get install  gparted  if you haven't already installed it
[01:39] <cornet> TTNK: a bit further down it'll also tell you how to change them perminantly
[01:39] <TTNK> is that the acpi thing?
[01:39] <monte> ttnk: i do link i see my applications and places and stuff but if not how do i add it again
[01:39] <djanatyn_> I tried Windows, and they said to just delete the xubuntu partition and WinXP would boot just fine with GRUB. is that okay? (just checking-don't want to nuke my computer ;)
[01:39] <TTNK> cornet great, let me read it :Dthanks a lot
[01:39] <cornet> TTNK: np - hope you get it fixed :)
[01:40] <sebsebseb> pitput: and no you don't change the chainloader
[01:40] <monte> TTNK: i do link i see my applications and places and stuff but if not how do i add it again
[01:40] <djanatyn_> wow, ##windows is pretty pro-linux O_o
[01:40] <TTNK> monte are you using gnome or kde?
[01:41] <TTNK> djanatyn_ or maybe they are pro-dontwanttomesswithmbr hehehehe
 hello, can anyone recommend a wireless pcmcia card that supports monitor mode on debian lenny.  I am currently trying to use kismet to perform packet capture but need this type of device.
[01:41] <pitput> sebsebseb, http://yfrog.com/0escreenshotcwp
[01:41] <sebsebseb> pitput: I think I know what the problem might be,  but please get me a screenshot of gparted so I can confirm if I am right or not, and  tell you which partition is what
[01:41] <monte> TTNK: i cant remember how do i find out i believe gnome
[01:41] <monte> TTNK: it is gnome
[01:41] <rouser> i know you probably get this all the time, but can someone point me to a site or something that shows how to put flash into x64 jaunty?
[01:41] <shane2peru> will gnome ever get a dual panel file manager?  I know of gnome-commander, and the others, but they don't allow picture previews.
[01:42] <h00k> when Ubuntu logs in and automatically decrypts my /home partition, is that just looking to wherever /home is?  For instance, if I move /home to a different partition, is this going to cause problems?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> pitput: Why do you want to dual boot with Vista version 2 by the way?
[01:42] <shane2peru> Dolphin offers dual panel, Thunar offer's dual panel, Nautilus is severely lacking in this area
[01:42] <pitput> sebsebseb, some software don't run as well on ubuntu as it does on windows
[01:42] <h00k> shane2peru: do you mean tabbed interface?
[01:42] <shane2peru> or is Dolphin tabbed
[01:43] <cornet> monte: i think you've probably accidently removed the window list addition from the panel. Right click on the panel, select "Add to Panel" and find the "Window List" item
[01:43] <pitput> sebsebseb, so by having windows and ubuntu, I have open options
[01:43] <shane2peru> h00k: dual panel is better, but tabbed would be a step forward.
[01:43] <h00k> shane2peru: Nautilus does do tabs
[01:43] <jrib> rouser: visit some flash site that doesn't try to be smart and detect flash itself (badgerbadgerbadger.com works) and click on teh yellow bar at the top of firefox
[01:43] <TTNK> monte ok then its pretty ease, just right click on the upper bar and select the new panel option, that should add one panel, then just drag it if it isnt at the bottom or right click on it and at properties select bottom
[01:43] <shane2peru> h00k: it does! :)  How?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> pitput: software such as?  you sure you can't Wine it and have it working properly enough for you in that?  or  virtual machine Windows for it, with enough RAM?
[01:43] <h00k> shane2peru: ctrl+t!
[01:44] <djanatyn_> Great. Now ##windows says they don't know.
[01:44] <sebsebseb> pitput: or use native alternatives :)
[01:44] <cornet>  /last djanatyn_
[01:44] <cornet> oops
[01:44] <shane2peru> h00k: ahh, found it, ok
[01:44] <h00k> shane2peru: :)
[01:44] <shane2peru> h00k: that is at least a step in the right direction, thanks for that tip
[01:44] <sebsebseb> pitput: oh kind of interesting you done Ext4 for 9.04, not had any problems with that?
[01:44] <h00k> shane2peru: no problem ;)
[01:44] <pitput> sebsebseb, I want to run imgburn but it doesn't do well under Wine. My pc has 1 gb of ram so I can't VM windows, otherwise I would have done that ages ago
[01:45] <netskillsii> hello, can anyone recommend a wireless pcmcia card that supports monitor mode on ubuntu.  I am currently trying to use kismet to perform packet capture but need this type of device.
[01:45] <shane2peru> h00k: I'm too much of a Gnome user to switch, but would love to see Nautilus upgrade to twin panels as an option.
[01:45] <sebsebseb> pitput: you can VM xp with 1GB RAM, but I think you can also do Vista version 2
[01:45] <h00k> shane2peru: I'm not sure what you mean by panels
[01:45] <TTNK> djanatyn_ you will have to use your win install cd to fix mbr after you uninstall ubuntu, or use super grub to help you boot to your windows
[01:45] <pitput> sebsebseb, ext4 has way faster boot times and it's very smooth operations. Definitely stable.
[01:45] <shane2peru> h00k: where you can see both 'tabs'
[01:45] <h00k> shane2peru: oh, at the same time
[01:45] <h00k> shane2peru: yeah, not sure on tha tone
[01:46] <shane2peru> h00k: two panes
[01:46] <pitput> sebsebseb, I think I can VM windows, but I think my fan would burn up
[01:46] <cornet> djanatyn_: i can tell you how to fix this - /msg   ok ?
[01:46] <shane2peru> h00k: well at any rate I can work with both tabs at least
[01:46] <djanatyn_> okay
[01:46] <shane2peru> h00k: thanks
[01:46] <h00k> shane2peru: no prob.
[01:46] <sebsebseb> pitput: yes I know about the  faster boot time, since  I  used to use it on this computer in 9.04, before putting karmic alpha4 on, and the other computer  has 9.04 with Ext4,   however  some might get  a lockup issue when deleting big files in 9.04.   it's still a little hmm since the kernel they have,  but many people should clean install I think when 9.10 comes out for ful Ext4 support.  and since the Ext3 to Ext4 conversion hmm.   anyway
[01:46] <sebsebseb> back to your issue
[01:47] <sebsebseb> pitput: your fan would burn up what?
[01:47] <kermit> my battery ran out and on the next boot everything was firewalled out and some units switched from English to metric.. is this a known bug or should i report it?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> pitput: your first hard disk is Windows,  unless it's that other NTFS partition why you got that?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> pitput: hard disk I meant partition
[01:47] <h00k> when Ubuntu logs in and automatically decrypts my /home partition, is that just looking to wherever /home is?  For instance, if I move /home to a different partition (its own), is this going to cause problems?
[01:48] <sebsebseb> pitput: Grub starts on  0  the first hard disk and the first partition is 0
[01:48] <h00k> greetings, Paddy_NI
[01:48] <pitput> sebsebseb, I think that came out wrong. I meant the ventilation area would get 2-3 times hotter if I were to VM windows. That happened when I VMed ubuntu on windows back then.
[01:48] <atlantis> Did Ubuntu get a more "serious-business" theme for 9.10? I heard talk....
[01:48] <sebsebseb> pitput: and so  you should be able to just  use the Windows example in menu.lst   hd 0,0
[01:49] <sebsebseb> atlantis: don't think it will have that
[01:49] <pitput> sebsebseb, the other NTFS is to store all my pictures, documents, etc if I were ever to reformat windows or linux.
[01:49] <hittingpilot> hello i'm having trouble dual booting windows 7 and linuxx
[01:49] <sebsebseb> pitput: well a lot of  people do a seperate /home instead of that kind of thing
[01:49] <losher> atlantis: you can discuss 9.10 on #ubuntu+1
[01:49] <atlantis> Loose Windows 7, problem solved.
[01:49] <sebsebseb> hittingpilot: hmm  your another oen
[01:50] <netskillsii> hittingpilot - what is the problem
[01:50] <hittingpilot> atlantis + sebsebseb: i just installed 9.04 and lost 7
[01:50] <pitput> sebsebseb, hd0,0 would definitely not work. I tried that 2 times already
[01:50] <sebsebseb> hittingpilot: :D
[01:50] <atlantis> Did you over write the partition or just loose access
[01:50] <pitput> sebsebseb, Well, I started with Windows and that's how I always had it. I guess old habits die hard.
[01:51] <sebsebseb> pitput:   ok  did you try hd0,1 ?
[01:51] <giiker> need help with a hardware problem
[01:51] <hittingpilot> netskillsii: listed problem, lost 7 due to grub
[01:51] <sebsebseb> pitput: if you got a hidden partition of some sort of on there,  that could be  why hd0,0  won't work
[01:51] <adalal> matthewbpt: hey dude
[01:51] <atlantis> reboot from disc and repair boot loader
[01:51] <hittingpilot> netskillsii: windows boot loader will not run from grub
[01:51] <pitput> sebsebseb, hd0,1 also makes it unusable.
[01:51] <losher> h00k: what are you using to encrypt/decrypt?
[01:52] <matthewbpt> adalal: hey
[01:52] <blackjack> hi
[01:52] <pitput> sebsebseb, I don't have hidden partitions from the screenshot, did I?
[01:52] <h00k> losher: er, the kernel does it, afaik
[01:52] <netskillsii> hittingpilot - Is your grub configuration correct, have you checked your file
[01:52] <giiker> I founf a wireless acces point. but when powered on, nothing lits up.  so I opened it up. I found PCMCIA card inside plus a CF card.
[01:52] <h00k> losher: encrypted home partition (which is just a folder at the moment)
[01:52] <sebsebseb> pitput: well seems your not the only one  to be having an issu with trying to dual boot Windows 7, to be honest it woudn't suprise me if  Microsoft did something so  Grub coudn't just boot it up
[01:52] <AspergersWorld> Hi everybody.
[01:52] <h00k> !hi | AspergersWorld
[01:53] <giiker> then trying to find a cause for its dead, on a little heat sink, i saw some part on the top brownish
[01:53] <hittingpilot> nestkillsii: the partition is the correct one, but when i select it on the list i receive a BSOD
[01:53] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, I should reinstall my windows XP for now.
[01:53] <losher> h00k: it's not truecrypt? I only ask so I could read up on it a bit...
[01:53] <atlantis> nah, I have 7 on my laptop with 9.04 and it boots fine. just the smarter os/boot loader after. 7 first then the newest.
[01:53] <hermitcrabred> ...I hate to ask again but I just can`t figure out the md5sum...I went everywhere on the Web but it is inconsistent, confused...:(
[01:53] <sebsebseb> pitput: or maybe atlantis can help you
[01:53] <h00k> losher: no, its an option on install (its actually Karmic, but the alternative installer for Jaunty also had this option)
[01:53] <pitput> sebsebseb, so when i reinstall, do I just install over windows 7 and then fix grub all over again?
[01:53] <t0s> im about to reinstall ubuntu, and i have alot files and movies on here i would to keep, how would i do this then recover my files after the installation is done?
[01:53] <sebsebseb> pitput: ,but you should  be able to use the Windows example in menu.lst really
[01:53] <giiker> will excessive heat make this signs. I heard it happens with regular processor's heatsinks.
[01:54] <h00k> sebsebseb, pitput: from my experience, Windows7 has a nasty habit of marking all other partitions as not-bootable
[01:54] <n8tuser> t0s -> are they stored under your user home directories?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> pitput: Why not vm XP in Ubuntu?
[01:54] <pitput> atlantis, can I make if boot if I installed ubuntu first then windows 7?
[01:54] <h00k> sebsebseb, pitput: if you boot from a live-cd, mark your partition that Grub is on as bootable, restart, give that a shot.
[01:54] <sebsebseb> pitput: the fan hmm?
[01:54] <atlantis> no
[01:54] <t0s> n8tuser, yeah
[01:54] <netskillsii> hittingpilot - Try booting from windows 7 cd and perform a repair on the mbr and fix your boot.  Have you tried this?
[01:54] <atlantis> well, not that I'm aware of anyways.
[01:54] <atlantis> windows and linux,...... windows always gets installed first.
[01:54] <n8tuser> t0s -> and /home is a separate partition?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> atlantis: well Grub can be put on after
[01:55] <losher> h00k: if it works on a folder basis (as opposed to per-filesystem) then it shouldn't matter if you move it and mount it from elsewhere. I'd be worried about the order in which stuff happens though e.g. mount before decrypt. I suggest you ask on #ubuntu+1 where they specifically discuss Karmic...
[01:55] <sebsebseb> atlantis: Windows has gone over it
[01:55] <atlantis> I'm sure if you search online you may beable to find a work around.
[01:55] <pitput> sebsebseb, XP in ubuntu is good? I would lose all my settings though after each loadup right?
[01:55] <hittingpilot> netskillsii: yes it wants to kill everything else on my raid array
[01:55] <thelyfe21> Anyone know anything about getting a webcam/camera to work with skype and kino?
[01:55] <h00k> losher: that is what I was thinking as far as both of your points.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> pitput: not  if you install into a virtual machine
[01:55] <h00k> losher: heading there.
[01:55] <sebsebseb> pitput: then it will have your settings in the virtual machine
[01:55] <sebsebseb> pitput: since  that's a virtual hard disk
[01:55]  * kd8JHC runs xp, 2000, vista, and 7 in virtualbox
[01:56] <kd8JHC> love it
[01:56] <atlantis> like I said before, I think just re-inserting the linux disc and repairing the boot loader may work. I don't know his exact problem. I'm not a pro, just been throught it alot.
[01:56] <sebsebseb> !love >  kd8JHC
[01:56] <thelyfe21> Can anyone help with with a webcam problem?  Lol.
[01:56] <kd8JHC> ty sebsebseb :)
[01:56] <sebsebseb> kd8JHC: heh
[01:56] <losher> h00k: still there?
[01:56] <t0s> n8tuser, im not sure im new to ubuntu :/, in gparted i have ext3 extended and linux-swap
[01:56] <kd8JHC> thelyfe21: ask your question
[01:57] <kd8JHC> if someone knows, we'll answer
[01:57] <atlantis> I'd get out ye-old hard drive or a stack of dvds and backup then wipe the main drive and reinstall.
[01:57] <h00k> losher: yep
[01:57] <h00k> losher: just highlight me
[01:57] <pitput> sebsebseb, h00k , atlantis : thank you guys for all your help! I appreciate it.
[01:58] <h00k> pitput: good luck!
[01:58] <sebsebseb> kd8JHC: yep that's the way to do it really,  Windows as the guest in a virtual machine, or  not at all :D   unfortunatly sometimes people have a valid enough reason to have Windows as host still hmm, but that's on the verge of changing :)
[01:58] <sebsebseb> pitput: hmm so what you going to do?
[01:58] <n8tuser> t0s -> well find another backup hd to store you files temporarily and then re-install
[01:58] <netskillsii> how about if you try running the command prompt when booting from Windows 7 and typing the bootrec.exe /fixmbr and bootrec.exe /fixboot this should help you.  Of course you will need to rebuild your grub after this...
[01:58] <pitput> sebsebseb, *sigh. reinstalling XP. I really don't think my computer can VM windows with 1 gb ram and have it run smoothly
[01:59] <kd8JHC> sebsebseb: yeah, it works beautifully, however there are some hardware functions that won't work in the vms... but everything else, including all networking works great
[01:59] <bcurtiswx> hey, maybe someone knows what I should do.  I am planning on selling my laptop and I would like to install jaunty for them but leave it so they can set up the user accounts themselves.. is there a way to do this?
[01:59] <sebsebseb> pitput: well mine can and yep 1GB RAM
[01:59] <sebsebseb> kd8JHC: yeah and 3D Windows gaming for example, but that's getting there in Wine and  virtualization
[01:59] <cornet> bcurtiswx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[01:59] <kd8JHC> bcurtiswx: there is an installation option to do that
[01:59] <kd8JHC> yeah, OEM installer
[01:59] <atlantis> just make a guest account with autologon and let them set the rest....
[02:00] <netskillsii> hittingpilot - how about if you try running the command prompt when booting from Windows 7 and typing the bootrec.exe /fixmbr and bootrec.exe /fixboot this should help you.  Of course you will need to rebuild your grub after this...
[02:00] <pitput> sebsebseb, how would I install programs in virtual machine..? that just seems weird
[02:00] <losher> h00k: I'm thinking that you could copy /home to the new partition, then rename the existing /home to /home.orig, then mkdir a new /home directory and add an fstab entry to mount the new partition onto it. Then, if something doesn't work, just undo the rename you're exactly back to where you started. Minimal risk of data loss...
[02:00] <sebsebseb> pitput: Virtualbox  runs  real Windows inside another OS or  even the same OS if people do it with Windows as host
[02:00] <MagnoFlux> i have a file with a .sh extension - what do i need to run it
[02:00] <hittingpilot> netskillsii: thanks a lot, i'll try that
[02:00] <sebsebseb> pitput: then you can switch between  the  guest VM Windows and the host Ubuntu for example
[02:00] <jenistin> Anyone want to help me with an SSH problem? The client stops responding before the key exchange.
[02:00] <kd8JHC> sebsebseb - no games here. lol.  Seamless mode is where it's at!
[02:00] <sebsebseb> pitput: and you install programs in the Windows vm,  like you would in a psyical install
[02:00] <s_t_c> hi all :)
[02:01] <h00k> losher: yeah, i could also keep a backup of /home on my thumbdrive, not much is there (mostly settings)
[02:01] <pitput> sebsebseb, can I drag files out of the VM onto linux (the host)
[02:01] <sebsebseb> pitput: not sure
[02:01] <losher> jenistin: bummer, still not solved then?
[02:01] <pitput> sebsebseb, that sounds so much easier. I should try it right now.
[02:01] <dm-madman> jenistin: sure, paste the output from ssh -v whoever@whatever
[02:01] <sebsebseb> pitput: ,but I think you can copy in  text from the host into the vm
[02:01] <kd8JHC> pitput: you can set up shared folders accessible to the host and VMs
[02:01] <jenistin> losher: nope, but I got server debug today
[02:01] <kd8JHC> and yes you can copy+paste across VMs and to the host
[02:01] <jenistin> dm-madman: I don't have output since the client is Putty on WinXP
[02:02] <losher> jenistin: I'd like to see the server debug trace if possible...
[02:02] <pitput> kd8JHC, does I have to set up shared folders or can I just drag and d?rop onto linux? what about using a usb? is that okay
[02:02] <dm-madman> jenistin: oh well, the problem is probably in the ms tcp stack or something anyway
[02:02] <sebsebseb> pitput: you will need for example the closed source version of Virtualbox from http://www.virtualbox.org if you want USB support
[02:02] <sebsebseb> pitput: the open source doesn't have USB support, and both are free as in price
[02:02] <mackjr> Hey can anyone here help me with installing blueman?  every time i try it uninstalls bluez-gnome and then says that its required, and vice versa
[02:03] <pitput> sebsebseb, hmm
[02:03] <meoblast001> hi, i configured CUPS to accept administration on port 631 over the web
[02:03] <cornet> jas8522:
[02:03] <meoblast001> and i get 403 forbidden
[02:03] <MagnoFlux> how can i run a .sh file extension on ubuntu
[02:03] <pitput> sebsebseb, the closed source is still free right?
[02:03] <jas8522> cornet: ?
[02:03] <cornet> jenistin: there is an option somewhere in putty to turn on debug logging
[02:03] <dm-madman> jenistin: try using openssh on windows and see if you get the same result
[02:03] <sebsebseb> pitput: and instead of having loads of space wasted by  Windows,  you can do a dynamically expanding virtual hard disk :)   which can grow  to the size you put, as long as you  have enough space in the partition it's in
[02:03] <jas8522> cornet: accident I assume?
[02:03] <jenistin> losher: the debug is at http://pastebin.com/f48ea52fe
[02:03] <cornet> jas8522: sorry tab completion flail
[02:03] <jas8522> cornet: haha thought so
[02:03] <sebsebseb> pitput: yep get it for Linux hosts from the site, and as I said still free as in price
[02:03]  * Growlithe is away: Food.
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !away >  Growlithe
[02:04] <jenistin> dm-madman: It's the employer computer, I can't use cygwin. I tried with FileZilla and Aptana as well
[02:04] <kd8JHC> pitput just install virtualbox and play with it. the beauty of VMs--if you screw up, delete the VM and start over :)
[02:04] <jenistin> dm-madman: Putty can connect to other hosts however
[02:04] <unperson> I'm trying to browse the web from a network where port 80 is blocked on my Ubuntu (jaunty) laptop.  Any good suggestions on how I might do that?  So far my top idea was to ssh to my home desktop, install a proxy server, and go through that.
[02:04] <sebsebseb> pitput: yep and your virtual hard disk,  gets treated like a normal file in Ubuntu,  except for it being in the hidden .virtualbox folder by default
[02:04] <jenistin> cornet: For some reason the logging option didn't produce anything for me
[02:04] <sebsebseb> pitput: so you can copy it easilly, delete it, etc
[02:05] <dm-madman> jenistin: so your problem is on the server?
[02:05] <giiker> !openoffice
[02:05] <jenistin> dm-madman: Other clients can connect to the server, other putty clients even
[02:05] <sebsebseb> pitput: also  on a psyical install   XP takes  about  20 to 40 minutes to install,  well  in  Virtualbox it is pretty quick to install
[02:05] <dm-madman> ubottu: your resposes are so verbose, they could be considered spam :p
[02:05] <sebsebseb> pitput: about 10 minutes and you will have a working vm
[02:05] <unperson> If my solution is a decent one, can anyone suggest a proxy server I can apt-get from the repos that's simple to setup?  I have no experience with proxies.
[02:05] <pitput> sebsebseb, okay. so I install virtualbox? What about VM ware? How's that virtualization program?
[02:05] <dm-madman> wasn't hoping for intelligence, but maybe logging
[02:05] <sebsebseb> !bot |  dm-madman
[02:06] <kd8JHC> XP boots in virtualbox (on ath64) under 9.04 in less than 15 secs over here
[02:06] <kd8JHC> snapppppy!
[02:06] <sebsebseb> pitput: VMware well  for home usage, Virtualbox is way better
[02:06] <dm-madman> i know it's a bot man
[02:06] <cornet> jenistin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=851607
[02:06] <netskillsii> hello, can anyone recommend a wireless pcmcia card that supports monitor mode on ubuntu.  I am currently trying to use kismet to perform packet capture but need this type of device.
[02:06] <kd8JHC> vmware NO virutalbox YES
[02:06] <sebsebseb> pitput: also  Virtualbox can even use VMware  virtual hard disks,  VMDK's without their silly  vmx  config file
[02:06] <cornet> jenistin: your host key is blacklisted i think
[02:06] <cornet> jenistin: but that thread says they solved the same problem anyway :)
[02:06]  * kd8JHC afk biab
[02:07] <sebsebseb> pitput: when I say  for home usage,  I mean  Virtualbox is way better than VMware player  or  server, which are there two free as in price ones
[02:07] <jenistin> cornet: thanks for the link
[02:07] <dm-madman> sebsebseb: i know it's a bot, maybe you know the command to tell it to be a little less verbose with its responses
[02:07] <pitput> sebsebseb, that sounds good! I'm going to install virtualbox!
[02:07] <sebsebseb> pitput: Home users are unlikely to  pay for VMware products,  but companies will,  that  want to do virtualization servers and such
[02:07] <mini> how can I get cron-apt to run with proper permissions without messing with apt's permissions? (i.e. I guess I want apt-get upgrades to not require root as long as --download-only is being passed in?)
[02:07] <losher> jenistin: pretty much confirms what we already knew. The server sees the client's protocol string & sends a protocol string and a key exchange init message, at which point the client appears to close the tcp connection. Cornet's comments are interesting...
[02:07] <jenistin> cornet: wouldn't the host be blacklisted in only one client, not all 3?
[02:08] <pitput> sebsebseb, sudo apt-get install virtualbox?
[02:08] <sebsebseb> pitput: when it comes to making the virtual hard disk,   put dynamically expanding  and  I would like 60GB for  XP
[02:08] <sebsebseb> pitput: no
[02:08] <cornet> jenistin: they host key of the client, not the server
[02:08] <sebsebseb> pitput: well you want USB support right?
[02:08] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, I want USB support
[02:08] <mackjr1> has anyone tried itunes 9 with wine yet?
[02:08] <jenistin> cornet: oh, why would the client be blacklisted? it's on password auth
[02:09] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok  in the Ubuntu repo there's the  open source version which lacks USB support, so get the  other one from their site like I already said
[02:09] <s_t_c> to all:i have hardy lts 64bit edition,kernel 2.6.24-24-generic and when i leave computer on for long period of time(2h) my usb keyboard and mouse switch off and i can't switch them back on even if i re-plug them.
[02:09] <bcurtiswx> The ubuntu OEM installer is just on the DVD right?
[02:09] <pitput> sebsebseb, I don't think I have around 60 gb to spare for XP. My entire hdd is 120 gb
[02:09] <sebsebseb> pitput: yes
[02:09] <dm-madman> jenistin: sshd should log something about why it closes out the connection
[02:09] <sebsebseb> pitput: well I don't have 2TB, but if I really want to I can put 2TB for an XP VM as long as I do dynamically expanding
[02:09] <sebsebseb> pitput: basically when you do dyanically expanding it's the size the vm thinks it has
[02:09] <cornet> jenistin: the server and client does a key exchange of  their own before asking for the user authentication
[02:09] <dm-madman> jenistin: maybe it's a hostkey change or something
[02:09] <Mokesnap> how do i move a program for example "mpg123" to the background so i can continue using terminal while it runs
[02:10] <sebsebseb> pitput: and the size the vm can grow up to  on the psyical partition, as long as you have enough space
[02:10] <cornet> jenistin: you know when you login for the first time it asks you if you want to trust the host ?
[02:10] <dm-madman> jenistin: it's not like guessing will accomplish much...get some logs...
[02:10] <jenistin> dm-madman: the debug says connection timed out
[02:10] <bastid_raZor> Mokesnap: start the program like this mpg123 &
[02:10] <jenistin> cornet: yes, I'm following
[02:10] <dm-madman> jenistin: sounds like you're not even getting connected
[02:11] <Mokesnap> ok i will try thank you
[02:11] <jenistin> dm-madman: netstat shows there's a tcp established
[02:11] <sebsebseb> pitput: the other option  fixed storage, will actsaully   make a  virtual hard disk file,  that is the size you put, so  not  usaully a good idea
[02:11] <cornet> jenistin: well the server implicitally allows all clients by default. what's happened is that the client key is blacklisted due to a vulnrability in the openssl encryption layer a few months ago
[02:11] <dm-madman> jenistin: on the server?
[02:11] <jenistin> dm-madman: yes
[02:11] <sebsebseb> pitput: that's the only thing,  the other stuff is rather straight forward
[02:11] <jenistin> cornet: I see
[02:11] <pitput> sebsebseb, Okay. I'll opt for dynamic and see what happens. Would I need to delete the windows 7 partition first?
[02:11] <djbpython> I am new to Ubuntu, I have installed 9.04 and apache2, how can I tell if apache2 is a daemon?
[02:11] <cornet> jenistin: there was a patch integrated with the ssh server on debian and ubuntu to block these host keys
[02:11] <sebsebseb> pitput: no
[02:12] <sebsebseb> pitput: your installing in Ubuntu yes?
[02:12] <dm-madman> jenistin: certainly sounds like a problem with windows to me, then
[02:12] <jenistin> cornet: Something interesting, I just tried it with sshd -dd and now the output says network child is on pid xxx
[02:12] <sebsebseb> pitput: install it in Ubuntu and by default   the  virtualbox  virtual hard disk and that will go in  the hidden .virtualbox  in  Home,  which will be crated when you do it
[02:13] <sebsebseb> pitput: you know about the .folders right?
[02:13] <dm-madman> jenistin: you really should get some debugging info on the client end.  get the logging turned on in putty or use openssh
[02:13] <leaf-sheep> djbpython: Install htop -- It'll tell you lot of things about your processes. Use that to search for "apache"
[02:13] <meoblast001> can someone help me set up administration with my server's CUPS from my desktop?
[02:13] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, installing in ubuntu
[02:13] <Evelina> How do I recieve the URL behind a URL shortening service?
[02:13] <jenistin> cornet: So if the client is blocked, why does the connection stop after the server has sent the init for key exchange?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> pitput: from http://www.virtualbox.org for Linux hosts?
[02:13] <pitput> sebsebseb, I don't know about the .folders
[02:13] <cornet> jenistin: check out auth.log on the server
[02:14] <cornet> jenistin: see what it says
[02:14] <jenistin> dm-madman: putty doesn't log for some reason, and I can't try OpenSSH because it's an employer's locked-down PC
[02:14] <leaf-sheep> djbpython: That's a terminal app by the way.  So "sudo aptitude install htop" and run "htop" in the terminal (maximized for better viewing).
[02:14] <sebsebseb> pitput: yeah I thought you might not of,   it seems to me that  the people that come here, that do Windows 7, and mention doing it with some issue, are  usaully also pretty new to Ubuntu
[02:14] <pitput> sebsebseb, just to make sure. I choose the first one i386 right?
[02:14] <dm-madman> jenistin: maybe it's locked down with some kind of stupid restrictive firewall too
[02:15] <losher> cornet: jenistin: interesting blacklist theory, is there any debug to back that theory up?
[02:15] <dm-madman> jenistin: of course you said you can ssh to anywhere else
[02:15] <sebsebseb> pitput: Well  are you on 32bit or 64bit?   you would probably know if you got 64bit and had put 64bit Ubuntu on
[02:15] <dm-madman> jenistin: and also from anywhere else..
[02:15] <pitput> 32bit
[02:15] <sebsebseb> pitput: yep i386 then
[02:15] <jenistin> dm-madman: correct
[02:15] <bdpa> hello
[02:15] <pitput> sebsebseb, 8 minutes to download. lol
[02:16] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok  the hidden .folders in home,   this  I consider  as being Linux basics
[02:16] <dm-madman> jenistin: which really just makes it strange enough to need logs even more
[02:16] <sebsebseb> pitput: pretty fast connection? well the file isn't that big
[02:16] <bdpa> I recently installed ubuntu over windows
[02:16] <jenistin> dm-madman: losher: cornet: so, I have my work computer on a bat file to try connecting every 40'ish minutes, and now it has successfully established a connection
[02:16] <judgen> What is the default resolution of the cli?
[02:16] <pitput> sebsebseb, my connection sucks. is it ctrl +h for hidden folders?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> pitput: basically  a program messes up,  move/delete it's hidden .folder normalley
[02:16] <bdpa> hello?
[02:16] <dm-madman> jenistin: so the server is basically saying (got a connection..........it timed out)
[02:16] <sebsebseb> pitput: .mozilla for example is  Firefox  and your  bookmarks or whatever
[02:16] <djbpython> how can i tell if apache2 is being run at start up?
[02:17] <outofrange1> How do I set Sound Recorder to record from line input?  I have a tape player hooked to line in and I can hear it but Sound Recorder is only recording from the mic on my USB camera.
[02:17] <sebsebseb> pitput: yep ctrl h I think, I do it from the menu
[02:17] <s_t_c> any hint?
[02:17] <jenistin> dm-madman: losher: cornet: the only thing different about my current sshd is the first time on this bat loop was "sshd -d" and now it is "sshd -dd"
[02:17] <sebsebseb> pitput: so  when you install a program in Linux usaully that's it,  you don't need to re install it
[02:17] <jiohdi3> my GIMP just stopped working... any ideas?
[02:17] <cornet> jenistin: no idea then
[02:17] <sebsebseb> pitput: if  things go wrong with it,  delete/move  the hidden .folder
[02:17] <neonflx> ne1 knows how to get the asus light sensor to properly work on karmic?
[02:18] <sebsebseb> pitput: sometimes  it's not so clear where these program user data folders go exactly, where in which .folder, but usaully it's pretty straight forward
[02:18]  * Pazako logged in here ruining the fact that before he logged in there were 1337 users in the chat room
[02:18] <losher> jenistin: so I'm confused. Is it working or not? If it's working, do you have a log trace of it working for comparison?
[02:18] <dm-madman> jenistin: "bat loop" ?
[02:18] <jiohdi3> I have no idea why... but gimp will not start
[02:18] <jiohdi3> anyone?
[02:18] <cornet> dm-madman: yer, they eat fruit loops
[02:18] <nickolaus> How do you search for images in ubuntu. I don't know the name but I'm missing a folder full of wall papers. I was able to do it in window. Just search for images but I can't seem to do the name in ubuntu
[02:18] <se1> i can't upgrade to jaunty using the update manager
[02:18] <losher> dm-madman: bat-loop a windows shell script which loops
[02:18] <sebsebseb> pitput: .Wine for  Wine stuff,  .virtualbox for the  virtual hard disk,  which won't be removed if you remove the entry for it in virtualbox.    get the idea?
[02:19] <jenistin> losher: I'll pastebin the current debug output, but I'm not at work to authenticate
[02:19] <gmaculo> does objC have a linked list of NSObject class already?
[02:19] <dm-madman> okie dokie
[02:19] <jenistin> dm-madman: DOS bat file with a loop inside to run putty
[02:19] <dm-madman> yeah, i get it
[02:19] <pitput> sebsebseb, one off topic question. Why do people say it's bad to compile or whatever like using ./make, /install, etc
[02:19] <dm-madman> never heard that term before
[02:19] <pitput> sebsebseb, it's much clearer to me now than before you explained it
[02:20] <losher> dm-madman: very off-topic, but bat files are windows shell scripts. Short for BATch...
[02:20] <sebsebseb> pitput: it's not bad,  it's just  dependancies,  well that's quite easy to solve in Ubuntu now, can't remember how, and well  most programs that you want to run in Linux  you can get from the repo anyway
[02:20] <dm-madman> something like ":TOP\n%1 %2 %3 %4 %5\nGOTO TOP"
[02:20] <sebsebseb> pitput: also that wasn't off topic by the way
[02:20] <calmbola> can anyone tell me how to get linux drivers for logitech mice?
[02:20] <dm-madman> if i remember batch writing at all
[02:20] <neonflx> ne1 knows how to get the asus light sensor to properly work on karmic?
[02:20] <queso_> nickolaus: Places -> Search for Files
[02:20] <calmbola> ubuntu specifically, obviously
[02:21] <pitput> sebsebseb, the download it only half way. haha
[02:21] <losher> dm-madman: I remember punched cards. And dropping a pile of 300 of them on the floor once...
[02:21] <jenistin> cornet: dm-madman: losher: the connection lasted pastebin.com/f149b9a5c
[02:21] <judgen> where can i find help making a usplash theme?
[02:21] <jenistin> cornet: dm-madman: losher: clickable http://pastebin.com/f149b9a5c
[02:21] <fantazam> is there some more good apps like gtkorphan to remove unesesary libs,maybe some app that remove old logs old unneded stuff to keep my system clean?
[02:22] <sebsebseb> pitput: normalley it's best to get  programs from the repo,  or  ppa's
[02:22] <cornet> jenistin: humm i'm wondering if this is a firewall problem thn
[02:22] <jenistin> cornet: the auth.log doesn't show any problem with checking the key
[02:22] <sebsebseb> pitput: ppa for later versions of many programs, but ppa's  can also cause problems sometimes maybe
[02:22] <kd8JHC> neonfix: we dont do karmic here
[02:23] <kd8JHC> #ubuntu+1
[02:23] <neonflx> kd8JHC: thx
[02:23] <cornet> jenistin: i wonder if the server can't send data back to the client's non-priv port
[02:23] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, ppa can sometimes cause problems like my music player exaile
[02:23] <losher> jenistin: I'm not convinced you got any further. Basically the client stops responding & the tcp connection on the server times out. It's just took a bit longer this time. You still don't seem to have gotten a reply to the server's KEXINIT...
[02:24] <sebsebseb> pitput: the USB support,  can be a bit annoying in VIrtualbox, because of how it needs to be set up
[02:24] <jenistin> losher: the client receives that the server is OpenSSH debian etc.
[02:24] <sebsebseb> pitput: ,but they also have a good manual on the website,  and  there's also #vbox
[02:24] <jenistin> cornet: the client receives that the server is OpenSSH debian etc.
[02:24] <kd8JHC> neonfix: np
[02:24] <pitput> sebsebseb, ah, that would be a great resource
[02:25] <sebsebseb> pitput: which?
[02:25] <jenistin> losher: At least I feel like I got further :P
[02:25] <losher> jenistin: you know that from the client debug log? That kills our firewall preventing packets going from server-to-client theory...
[02:25] <sebsebseb> pitput: you can download the manual yeah
[02:25] <pitput> sebsebseb, both actually.
[02:25] <sebsebseb> pitput: maybe, maybe not, depending on how computer literate you are
[02:25] <jenistin> losher: Putty shows a very basic event log, yes
[02:25] <sebsebseb> pitput: Virtualbox is  very nice and graphical and so rather straight forward for most stuff
[02:26] <fantazam> to have usb support in virtualbox you must download virtualbox puel and when you install you must run it as root
[02:26] <pitput> sebsebseb, I was like a windows guru, but I decided to finally switch to ubuntu because I didn't want to think twice about clicking a link because of viruses, trojans, etc
[02:26] <fantazam> what is virus and trojan???
[02:26] <xtiger> hi
[02:26] <losher> jenistin: can't you set the more advance options per http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.60/htmldoc/Chapter4.html#config-ssh-kex-rekey ?
[02:26]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[02:26] <xtiger> hi
[02:26] <sebsebseb> pitput: well there are ways to make Windows pretty secure,  and to the  extent of  where people don't really need anti virus or anti spyware, but yeah I know what you mean
[02:27] <pitput> fantazam, in windows OS
[02:27] <sebsebseb> !away > D3f0
[02:27] <fantazam> i never saw or had virus on my xubuntu machine :)
[02:27] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah. I never installed antivirus or stuff like those
[02:27] <sebsebseb> !virus
[02:28] <losher> fantazam: try not to sound smug, ok?
[02:28] <testing_ubi> hi
[02:28] <jenistin> losher: Putty drops the connection after about 10 seconds, so repeating the key exchange hasn't seemed to do anything. The putty event log doesn't show any key exchange initiated
[02:28] <sebsebseb> xtiger: hi
[02:28] <sebsebseb> testing_ubi: hi
[02:28] <Keelan> You guys were right, wireless is dificult
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Keelan: did you get any luck?
[02:28]  * D3f0 is back.
[02:28] <fantazam> i have windows installed on other gaming comp never had virus either,no anti virus software can protect against stupid users ;)
[02:28] <Keelan> i swear, ubuntu saw me coming with ndis-wrapper and refused to install
[02:28] <losher> jenistin: I think you have a fault putty. Can you reinstall it, or better yet, install a different version?
[02:29] <pitput> sebsebseb, installed the .deb but I can't find where Virtualbox is
[02:29] <sebsebseb> fantazam: heh
[02:29] <sebsebseb> pitput: ah yes this
[02:29] <Keelan> sebsebseb: I couldn't get ubuntu to install next to windows, so i might try 8.10 because i know it will install
[02:29] <Keelan> but i was using 9.04
[02:29] <jenistin> losher: I don't think putty has made a new version in years, and the two other clients on that computer (FileZilla and Aptana) have the same problem
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Keelan: wireless works in 8.10?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> Keelan: your one
[02:30]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[02:30] <jenistin> losher: plus this putty can connect to other hosts, and this putty on another WinXP machine can connect to this host
[02:30] <Keelan> sebsebseb: No, but i could at least get 8.10 to install next to windows
[02:30] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok sometimes programs don't just add them selves to the menu
[02:30] <Keelan> well, it might work, i just never got it to before
[02:30] <sebsebseb> pitput: it will be  under  applications > system tools I think
[02:31] <sebsebseb> pitput: when you sort it out
[02:31] <Keelan> but i was having withdrawals from the internet so ill try again tomorrow
[02:31] <sebsebseb> pitput: if not there already
[02:31] <sebsebseb> Keelan: you coudn't install 9.04?
[02:31] <calmbola> soryr to ask again, but can anyone tell me how i can easily install a driver for a logitech mouse?
[02:31] <djbpython> how can I tell if apache2 is going to be run at start up
[02:31] <pitput> sebsebseb, it's not under applications >system tools
[02:31] <sebsebseb> pitput: re installing the package or logging out of  Ubuntu  and back in again, and it should appear in the menu
[02:31] <jrib> djbpython: if you install it, it will run at startup by default
[02:31] <losher> jenistin: I like dm-madman's suggestion. Install openssh for windows on the client...
[02:32] <Keelan> sebsebseb: no, it said i could have dirt on my disc or a bad eye on my CD drive
[02:32] <jrib> calmbola: you shouldn't need to
[02:32] <djbpython> jrib: but how can i tell if i sit at a system to double check?
[02:32] <Keelan> i was also having trouble getting the partitioner to work
[02:32] <jrib> djbpython: sysv-rc-conf
[02:32] <jenistin> losher: I would if I could. Unless you know of a way to run it off of a memory stick...
[02:32] <sebsebseb> pitput: on the graphical deb installer, it should say re install package
[02:32] <sebsebseb> pitput: and yes let it do the kernel modules agian
[02:32] <calmbola> jrib, but i do
[02:32] <calmbola> it's not working
[02:33] <jrib> calmbola: "not working"?  It doesn't move AT ALL?
[02:33] <jenistin> losher: er, by memory stick I mean USB flash drive
[02:33] <djbpython> jrib: sysv can't be found?
[02:33] <jrib> djbpython: I don't know what "sysv" is, but if you want to use sysv-rc-conf install it first
[02:33] <pitput> sebsebseb, I cleared the download list. Is there a way to go to the temporary folder that I downloaded in?
[02:33] <Gigs> Having problems with firefox consuming more and more CPU until it hangs completely... it's the default firefox with jaunty 3.0.13... all extensions disabled but the ubuntu one.
[02:33] <calmbola> er it does now
[02:33] <calmbola> great.
[02:33] <djbpython> jrib: you just told me to use it?
[02:33] <jrib> calmbola: jrib's magic touch
[02:33] <calmbola> lol thanks
[02:33] <sebsebseb> pitput: uhmm not sure where that is  /home/tmp or something like that maybe
[02:33] <jrib> djbpython: no I didn't.  I told you to use "sysv-rc-conf", not "sysv"
[02:33] <calmbola> what's the most suitable thing to use as a mousepad?
[02:34] <calmbola> apparently it didn't like the lass
[02:34] <mgv1> where can i download a video editor?
[02:34] <calmbola> after you said it should work i used a book
[02:34] <jrib> calmbola: your desk :)
[02:34] <jrib> !software > mgv1
[02:34] <dm-madman> jenistin: stick a usb switchblade in that thing and hack the admin password
[02:34] <sebsebseb> pitput: when you download stuff like that, it's better to  download them to a proper folder, and then you can delete the  deb/installer later if you want
[02:34] <pitput> sebsebseb, will keep that in mind from now on.
[02:34] <Keelan> anyway, im off for now guys, thanks for the help sebsebseb
[02:34] <losher> jenistin: sorry, dunno much about windows. Isn't there temp space available where you could put a program and run it?
[02:34] <calmbola> oh well, book it is
[02:34] <sebsebseb> pitput: log out and back in again, and it should be in your menu as I said before
[02:34] <calmbola> thanks again
[02:35] <sebsebseb> pitput: log out yes, not whole system re boot or anything like that
[02:35] <jenistin> dm-madman: that would violate policies ;)
[02:35] <mgv1> where can i download a video editor? i have't found any in the add or remove programs ubottu
[02:35] <dm-madman> jenistin: i won't tell anyone
[02:35] <pitput> sebsebseb, okay. brb
[02:35] <fantazam> you can download kino or avidemux
[02:35] <losher> jenistin: *my* lips are sealed...
[02:36] <jenistin> losher: I'm not allowed to "install software"
[02:36] <losher> jenistin: it's not software. It's a debugging tool...
[02:36] <sebsebseb> pitput: it's there now?
[02:36] <pitput> sebsebseb, it's back!
[02:36] <djbpython> jrib: ok, programmatically, how can I check if something is run at startup?
[02:36] <mgv1> fantazam: does it deals with .mov too?
[02:36] <jenistin> losher: lol, yeah, I'm sure they'll buy that
[02:36] <sebsebseb> pitput: programs can also be opended with their  exact  proccess names from the terminal and then hitting enter
[02:36] <xtiger> does anyone besides me have font size problems with firefox? my font sizes are really tiny
[02:36] <dm-madman> jenistin: boot it off a liveusb or something
[02:37] <jrib> djbpython: but I just told you....  What doesn't sysv-rc-conf do for you?
[02:37] <djbpython> an existence of a file or entry in a conf file somewhere?
[02:37] <djbpython> I just don't know where
[02:37] <dirtbag666> Hey there!
[02:37] <jenistin> dm-madman: changing OS is also forbidden
[02:37] <cmuse> hi all
[02:37] <dirtbag666> Little off-topic, but I did not find any answers anywhere else.... : I'm searching for a homepage I once found that provides "fake" surround sound for stereo speakers. It was just a few samples ("left front", "right rear" etc...) that played on click. Any ideas?
[02:37] <dm-madman> jenistin: you wouldn't change anything
[02:37] <jenistin> losher: Do you know if PHP can interface with SSH in some way?
[02:37] <losher> jenistin: it's not like we haven't tried a billion alternatives. Do you want this solved or not?
[02:37] <djbpython> jrib: it prints out a lot of fluff
[02:37] <fantazam> mgv: im not sure just download kino and avidemux i think they are fine
[02:37] <jrib> djbpython: read "man update-rc.d" if you seek a more difficult way...
[02:37] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok for the dynamically expanding vm  put  60GB or 100GB or some such,  that's the size I would do
[02:37] <dm-madman> jenistin: you'd just be choosing not to use the hard drive
[02:37] <pitput> sebsebseb, should I register or no?
[02:37] <jenistin> dm-madman: but running an OS other than the one installed is not allowed
[02:37] <Zehava> How can I look and see what ports are open from a terminal?
[02:38] <sebsebseb> pitput: yeah  register, or  it will probably come up again asking you to register
[02:38] <xtiger> jenistin: the ends justify the means
[02:38] <jrib> djbpython: runlevel 2 is the default run level on ubuntu, just check if apache2 has an * in runlevel 2...
[02:38] <dm-madman> jenistin: wow, where do you work
[02:38] <losher> jenistin: no idea on the PHP stuff...
[02:38] <djbpython> jrib: suppose I am writing a python script, it seems silly to have to run and parse the output of that command
[02:38] <xtiger> jenistin: can you use a windows live cd? that's not a different OS, right?
[02:39] <jrib> djbpython: why would you write such a thing...?
[02:39] <fantazam> mgv: download avidemux gtk ver.  if you need video and audio converter download ffmpeg and winff
[02:39] <xtiger> jenistin: or use a live cd/usb of whatever exact OS you're using
[02:39] <djbpython> jrib: does it matter?
[02:39] <jenistin> xtiger: Interesting id, but I think that would be considered a different installation of it
[02:39] <xtiger> jenistin: it's absolutely not an installation
[02:39] <dm-madman> jenistin: tell the computer nazis there that your putty is broken then
[02:39] <jrib> djbpython: yes, because there's probably a better way to accomplish what you are trying to accomplish.  In any case the man page tells you the details you would need
[02:39] <djbpython> let me ask another way. How do I and a script to be run at start up without using the gui?
[02:39] <djbpython> add
[02:39] <jrib> djbpython: sysv-rc-conf.
[02:40] <julie1> hey all not used to IRC, so I hope it isn't rude to just pop in and ask a question... but today's firefox upgrade broke my Flash (I'm on 64-bit).  wondering where to look and see if this is a known issue or if there's some kind of standard way to fix it... or how to undo upgrades?
[02:40] <jenistin> dm-madman: then they'll say stop using putty :P
[02:40] <jrib> !startup > djbpython
[02:40] <kd8JHC> julie1: it's a very common issue.. FF and Flash
[02:40] <xtiger> my font sizes in firefox are really, really tiny
[02:40] <losher> djbpython: or you can place a symbolic 'by hand' from the appropriate rc.X directory to a script in /etc/init.d, if you hav root permission
[02:40] <sebsebseb> julie1: yeah you just ask a  question, there's even a factoid for this
[02:40] <Ben64> julie1: it's actually encouraged to pop in and ask a question. Let me ask you one... what version flash?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> !ask |  julie1
[02:41] <dm-madman> jenistin: but it's the only terminal on your short list of approved software!!!
[02:41] <djbpython> losher: aha!
[02:41] <pitput> sebsebseb, so now I just press the new button and I should be good to go?
[02:41] <fantazam> use ftp instead putty :)
[02:41] <julie1> um... version whatever is installed by default
[02:41] <xtiger> I've tried everything, but I just can't find a solution to my firefox problem
[02:41] <fantazam> gtftp
[02:41] <sebsebseb> pitput: yeah
[02:41] <djbpython> losher: how do I know which is the appropriate rc.X?
[02:41]  * jrib leaves
[02:41] <jenistin> dm-madman: I wish their policies made sense like that.
[02:41] <Ben64> julie1: open firefox, type about:plugins and look for flash, will have the version listed
[02:41] <hottoddy> hello all....new to ubuntu and irc......just curious if anyone can pm me or put on here some more popular irc servers and some good and interesting utilities to work with jaunty
[02:41] <losher> djbpython: the default is rc2.d unles you're doing something extra special
[02:41] <jenistin> fantazam: I want to use SSH for more than file transfer, but thank you
[02:42] <mimiloon> hi everybody, how do i disable the touchpad of my laptop when an external mouse is connected?
[02:42] <julie1> Flash 10.0 r32
[02:42] <pitput> sebsebseb, base size memory.. I only have 1 gb. what do you recommend?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> hottoddy: good idea to browser synaptic and see what's available, when your new
[02:42] <julie1> (thanks, can't believe I didn't know that)
[02:42] <sebsebseb> hottoddy: and try some stuff out as well if you want to try it
[02:42] <sebsebseb> pitput: leave the base memory as default
[02:42] <dm-madman> jenistin: good luck, man.  my suggestion is get a laptop and put that one under the desk
[02:42] <losher> jenistin: security & convenience tend to pull in opposite directions. I suggest you get an exception for the purpose of debugging...
[02:42] <fantazam> ftp have ssh :)
[02:42] <fantazam> gftp
[02:42] <dm-madman> jenistin: of course bringing your own laptop is probably against policy as well
[02:42] <fantazam> damn my keyboard sucks
[02:42] <Zehava> How can I see what ports are open from terminal please?
[02:43] <Ben64> julie1: hmm.. same one i have, perfect for 64bit
[02:43] <sebsebseb> pitput: and the video memory leave that as default as well
[02:43] <losher> !who | fantazam
[02:43] <robd> Hey guys
[02:43] <robd> I need some help w/ preseeding
[02:43] <jenistin> dm-madman: lol, I've actually done that already
[02:43] <kd8JHC> julie1: yeah same here, on 9.04 64 bit
[02:43] <julie1> I know today's updates upgraded FF, and I *think* FF 3.5 (which was not the upgrade today so far as I know) b roke flash when I tried it
[02:43] <robd> I'd like to boot using the Ubuntu cd and then just add my preseed file on the boot cli, but so far I can't...
[02:43] <julie1> y'alls didn't break today?
[02:43] <pitput> sebsebseb, for virtual hard disk, should I create new harddisk or use existing harddisk?
[02:43] <kd8JHC> nope
[02:43] <jenistin> losher: True, but since it's not business-purpose exactly, it wouldn't get through. Plus the CTO would have to sign it...
[02:43] <fantazam> btw rcconf and bum bootup manger is better than sysv-rc ;)
[02:43] <sebsebseb> pitput: create new hard disk
[02:43] <julie1> huh
[02:44] <Ben64> julie1: i used firefox ppa daily build, then locked version, so no firefox updates for me
[02:44] <robd> Is there anyway I can define my own preseed.cfg file that's hosted on an http server w/o having to re-burn a cd? (lame!!!)
[02:44] <dm-madman> jenistin: doesn't sound like you have much choice if you want to do any work at work there
[02:44] <losher> jenistin: wish I knew what to suggest. I'm out of ideas *again*...
[02:44] <kd8JHC> And I don't think that upgrade was from today, it wasn't in my update list
[02:44] <hottoddy> sebsebseb: What do you mean browser synaptic?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> hottoddy: system > adminstration > synaptic package manager
[02:44] <Zehava> hottoddy go to applications and at the bottom should be add/remove programs
[02:44] <sebsebseb> !synapic |  hottoddy
[02:44] <julie1> I assumed it was today 'cause it wasn't in the list last night and it was in the list today
[02:44] <dm-madman> jenistin: sorry about your luck though.  windows support is basically nonexistent
[02:44] <julie1> hmm
[02:45] <kd8JHC> oh, weird.  cuz I did the same thing and no FF upgrade.  oh well
[02:45] <pitput> sebsebseb, you said make expanding disk 60 gb. Should I do the same even though I don't have that much?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> hottoddy: Zehava synatpic is better than add/remove
[02:45] <julie1> do y'all think the ubuntuzilla version would work with 64-bit flash?
[02:45] <mimiloon> how do i disable the touchpad of my laptop when an external mouse is connected?
[02:45] <dsdeiz> !synaptic
[02:45] <sebsebseb> pitput: I already explained this to you,  it doesn't matter if you don't have that much space on your partition
[02:45] <fantazam> hottoddy: open terminal and type sudo synaptic
[02:45] <fantazam> or sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:45] <julie1> I can't remember when I installed it if flash worked on 3.5
[02:45] <kd8JHC> julie1: maybe. open FF and type "about:plugins"
[02:45] <kd8JHC> oops
[02:45] <Zehava> sebsebseb I personally just use apt-get so wasn't sure how that worked out.  I figured it's all a gui front end for apt
[02:45] <sebsebseb> pitput: it's just space the vm thinks it has,  and can actsaully  become in size, if there's enough on the partition, if not Virtualbox will even come up with a message saying it's running out of space for the virtual hard disk
[02:45] <robd> How do I break out of the retarded isolinux gui so that I can define my own boot arguments on the ubuntu 9.04 cd?
[02:45] <julie1> oh no it's not installed, I'll have to reinstall it
[02:46] <hottoddy> sebsebseb: I know what synaptic is.....i thought you were saying there was a browser synaptic and I got confused. Thank you for your help.
[02:46] <jenistin> dm-madman: losher: cornet: thank you for all of your help, I really appreciate it. Got to go!
[02:46] <julie1> but... going to do..
[02:46] <kd8JHC> are you installing it from Synaptic julie1?
[02:46] <julie1> no, terminal... didn't know ubuntuzilla worked in synaptic
[02:46] <losher> jenistin: see you tomorrow for the next instalment...
[02:46] <julie1> ?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> pitput: XP SP3  will be like 5GB  for the virtual hard disk, and that's all, unless you put on  quite a few more big files
[02:46] <robd> Has anyone here worked with preseeding?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> pitput: quite a few big files or whatever
[02:46] <robd> Does anyone here even know what that means?
[02:47] <robd> or is this just desktop support?
[02:47] <Zehava> Is there a command or install I can put in to be able to see what ports I have open on my box from a terminal?
[02:47] <fantazam> is any way of playing hd dvd and blue ray movies in ubuntu i found solution for burrning it-(nero linux)
[02:47] <kd8JHC> julie1: you're right, i thoguht you were talking about reinstalling flash
[02:47] <kd8JHC> sry
[02:47] <matthiasdorfelt> did any one experience that glActiveTexture is missing on NVIDIA 185.18.36 driver?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> pitput: 60GB  100GB 2TB if you want even
[02:48] <sebsebseb> pitput: what size have you put?
[02:48] <losher> robd: I know what it means, but I'm not qualified to help. But I'd say it's probably too technical an issue for this list, where we tend to get more newbie style questions...
[02:48] <pitput> sebsebseb, I just put 60 gb. lol
[02:48] <julie1> kd8JHC: I  could try that... I'm just kind of gunshy 'cause flash in 64 bit seems sooo breakable, and I don't always know enoguh to be able to fix it :-\
[02:48] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok
[02:48] <kd8JHC> julie1: well for what it's worth, FF + Flash is extremely stable on my 64bit system
[02:49] <sebsebseb> pitput: What  kind of XP CD you got?  It might not like an OEM version in Virtualbox.
[02:49] <julie1> are you running 64-bit FF or 32-bit?
[02:49] <julie1> I don't remember which is the default...
[02:49] <losher> robd: might have better luck on #debian
[02:49] <dm-madman> yeah FF and Flash work great here too
[02:49] <kd8JHC> 64 bit all the way
[02:49] <pitput> sebsebseb, umm, windows xp with sp2
[02:50] <sebsebseb> pitput: booted that up in there yet?
[02:50] <losher> julie1: type: lsb_release -a
[02:50] <julie1> losher: 9.04, but I knew that ;-)
[02:51] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, it's working
[02:51] <losher> julie1: doesn't mention 64 bit? What about uname -a ?
[02:51] <julie1> "no LSB modules are available", if it was supposed to say something else
[02:51] <pitput> sebsebseb, it's at the installation
[02:51] <sebsebseb> pitput: NTFS quick when you install it by the way
[02:51] <julie1> Linux julie-desktop 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:51] <sebsebseb> pitput: don't need the other one,  and  it's quicker if you do quick
[02:51] <pitput> sebsebseb, hence the name? haha
[02:51] <MeXTuX> I installed noip2 on Ubuntu 8.04. But I need to reconfigure it. Does anybody know?? xD
[02:51] <sebsebseb> pitput: and right ctrl to switch between the vm and  the host as  it says
[02:52] <losher> julie1: mine says that too...  See that x86_64 ? You're running 64 bit...
[02:52] <matthiasdorfelt> is anybody using nvidias 185.18.36 driver?
[02:52] <sebsebseb> pitput: that can even be changed to another button in the settings if you really want
[02:52] <julie1> losher: does that mean 64-bit FF too?
[02:52] <pitput> sebsebseb, i think I'll just stick with right ctrl
[02:52] <sebsebseb> julie1: you  probably have 64bit Flash
[02:52] <losher> julie1: erm, dunno. What does '
[02:52] <sebsebseb> julie1: since you got a 64bit OS
[02:52] <mimiloon> can anyone help me please? i've installed gsynaptics for my touchpad but when i try to run it, i get this error: "GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[02:52] <mimiloon> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics", and i don't know what to do next
[02:52] <losher> julie1: erm, dunno. What does 'about' in firefox say?
[02:53] <julie1> aha this is interesting... ubuntuzilla installer finished, reopened FF (the ubuntuzilla version) and it says "You should update Adobe Flash Player right now.             Firefox is up to date, but your current version of Flash Player can cause security and stability issues.  Please install the free update as soon as possible."
[02:53] <sebsebseb> pitput: and  if sound isn't on by default for whatever reason,  that can be set up in the  vm settings, as well as other things, such as the USB
[02:53] <kd8JHC> julie1: Where did you install flash? synaptic or dl from Adobe
[02:54] <julie1> losher: the version ubuntu just installed says 64 bit in about
[02:54] <pitput> sebsebseb, internet would still be available through nat right?
[02:54] <losher> julie1: ok...
[02:54] <julie1> kd8JHC: I honestly don't remember... I know I've done both before, but I think the latest install (did clean install of jaunty) was from adobe
[02:54] <sebsebseb> pitput: I think so, if not you can probably set up
[02:54] <julie1> anyway I'm going to try the flash upgrade FF is suggesting now
[02:54] <sebsebseb> pitput: also you should  treat this vm  like you would psyical Windows install
[02:55] <sebsebseb> pitput: here's a tip use a limited account all the time, unless you really need admin say to install a new program
[02:55] <kd8JHC> julie1: yeah let us know if it worked
[02:55] <Korlis> hey all
[02:55] <weidhhe> how to use ubuntu as a nat router that can allocate a specific bandwidth to a client pc?
[02:55] <pitput> sebsebseb, what happens if the virtual machine gets infected with a virus or other malicious items? Just delete and reinstall right?
[02:55] <julie1> eek it sent me to the i386 version apparently, gonna take me another minute to find the 64 bit...
[02:56] <sebsebseb> pitput: yep,  or  use a copy of a clean vm file
[02:56] <Korlis> ok, whenever i try to access my home folder in nauitlus it creates a seg fault, whats going on
[02:56] <sebsebseb> pitput: you can copy a clean virtual hard disk image, really easilly,  like a normal file
[02:56] <sebsebseb> pitput: however it should also be rather quick to install a clean install,  just like the install your doing now, that shoudn't take that long to do
[02:57] <Korlis> also happens when i open gedit
[02:57] <julie1> ok, the .so goes in home/.mozilla/plugins, right?
[02:57] <sebsebseb> julie1: I think so
[02:57] <slestak> is configuring spdif for audio with jaunty still a chore?  i see lots of hits for older discussions ingoogling
[02:57] <kd8JHC> im checking that right now julie
[02:57] <mimiloon> can anyone help me please? i've installed gsynaptics for my touchpad but when i try to run it, i get this error: "GSynaptics couldn't initialize. You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics", and i don't know what to do next
[02:57] <Korlis> rendering both unusable
[02:58] <julie1> aha I tried it
[02:58] <kd8JHC> home/~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:58] <julie1> and it worked!
[02:58] <julie1> thank you kd8JHC and everyone else!!!!
[02:58] <kd8JHC> nice
[02:58] <kd8JHC> no problem
[02:58] <JTrunner> hi, can anyone help me with sshd?
[02:58] <kd8JHC> come back soon
[02:58] <julie1> don't know why it broke, but it's good for now at any rate!  :-D
[02:59] <Korlis> mimiloon: in /etc/X11 there should be a file called xorg.conf find the line that says SHMConfig and change the false on that line to true
[02:59] <Ben64> kd8JHC: home/~/ doesn't exist, it'd be ~/
[02:59] <sebsebseb> pitput: oh yeah and web browseing,  I suggest you do that in Firefox in Ubuntu,  rather than in your vm, so  that you hopefuly contribute in some way, to  Firefox  Linux market share :)
[02:59] <julie1> I will!  I wish I knew more and could help instead of just asking questions :)
[02:59] <julie1> bye all :)
[02:59] <sebsebseb> pitput: well both  market shares are improtant :)
[02:59] <kd8JHC> Ben64: i was using ~ to stand for username
[02:59] <kd8JHC> sorry
[02:59] <sebsebseb> pitput: Linux and Firefox
[02:59] <pitput> sebsebseb, the two most important out there
[02:59] <sebsebseb> pitput: yep
[03:00] <Korlis> anyone know why accessing my home in nautilus will cause a segmentation fault? FYI, it only happens in nautilus, no other file browser
[03:00] <sebsebseb> pitput: and then Office Suites like Open Office, and then email clients such as Evolution and Thunderbird I guess
[03:00] <Ben64> more linux share = more linux games = more linux share = .............    [windows is dead]
[03:00] <hottoddy> is there any other channels on this server
[03:00] <JTrunner> i keep getting a connection times out when trying to connect to a server from a ubuntu desktop
[03:00] <sebsebseb> hottoddy: of course
[03:01] <Korlis> hottoddy: type /list
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Korlis: I was going to suggest that
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Ben64: well  pretty much, but there are other important types of apps, that many people are doing only or mainly in Windows at the moment
[03:01] <JTrunner> anyone with knowledge of ssh, sshd? set up?
[03:01] <matthiasdorfelt> did any one experience that glActiveTexture is missing on NVIDIA 185.18.36 driver?
[03:01] <mimiloon> Korlis: there's no such word in the file
[03:01] <sebsebseb> Ben64: wel games aren't important, but they are for OS market share
[03:02] <Iphox> need help installin aircrack 1.0 final thru terminal??????????
[03:02] <Hansard> I saw a website the other day that looked like synaptic and you could install programs directly from within firefox. I can't remember what the site was called and I can't google it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[03:02] <Ben64> sebsebseb: but gamers control the entire personal computer development
[03:02] <syk> how do i remove the login screen on startup?
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Ben64: ,but the more  Windows stuff that works well in Wine the better, as well as in a Windows virtual machine which is  nearly everything :)
[03:02] <Ben64> virtual machines suck, requires you to buy windows still
[03:02] <fantazam> lol
[03:03] <pitput> sebsebseb, yup, the install is going to take awhile nontheless
[03:03] <seidos> Ben64: it doesn't REQUIRE you to, though it is more ethical to buy a copy
[03:03] <Ben64> i know tons of people who would use linux only, if it weren't for the game compatibility issues
[03:03] <sebsebseb> pitput: 15 minutes maybe or 20
[03:03] <sebsebseb> pitput: normalley with 1GB RAM, XP  installs pretty quickly in  Virtualbox
[03:03] <Ben64> then software developers would be required to make everything compatible with linux, or lose money
[03:03] <fantazam> ben64: windows is no1 for gaming becouse dirext x ;)
[03:03] <sebsebseb> pitput: about 20  I guess yeah
[03:04] <seidos> fantazam: opengl
[03:04] <Ben64> fantazam: what? direct x isn't anything awesome
[03:04] <sebsebseb> Ben64: well and hardware issues
[03:04] <sebsebseb> Ben64: average computer users want it all to work,  that's wireless, sound, all of it
[03:04] <slestak> fantazam: closed environments can do that
[03:04] <sebsebseb> Ben64: and they won't  configure
[03:04] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[03:04] <pitput> sebsebseb, would I need the disk everytime I want to boot windows xp ?
[03:04] <Ben64> sebner: yep, but the gamers have the ability to tip the scales, imo
[03:04] <seidos> sebsebseb: ubuntu can do this now, problem is hardware variance
[03:04] <sebsebseb> pitput: no
[03:04] <JTrunner> you don't need to do much configuration with Ubuntu
[03:05] <sebsebseb> pitput: ,because you install it in the virtual hard disk image that you made
[03:05] <fantazam> game developers are not some nerds that making game for free just to show up,they live at making and selling games
[03:05] <Ben64> argh my screen is exploding
[03:05] <pitput> what's going on? lol
[03:05] <rww> !netsplit
[03:05] <Korlis> lol
[03:06] <seidos> I think most ubuntu developers develop for ubuntu as a hobbie
[03:06] <Hansard> oh I found it www.appnr.com
[03:06] <Ben64> fantazam: people will pay for good games
[03:06] <JTrunner> need help with sshd. can nayone help?
[03:06] <JTrunner> anyone
[03:06] <obake-san> hey, i have a desktop i just took away the monitor from, and when i restarted its stuck in 640x480. im looking to get it set by default to 1280x800 without any type of monitor present. any help?
[03:06] <jrib> !ask | JTrunner
[03:06] <seidos> JTrunner: sshd works for me.  what is happening?
[03:06] <sebsebseb> seidos: yeah and Ubuntu isn't the only distro
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !netsplit
[03:06] <Ben64> can i borrow someone's computer for some rendering? my cpu is slow..
[03:07] <JTrunner> seidos, long story I got a connection timed out error message
[03:07] <jrib> Ben64: that's not really on-topic here
[03:07] <Ben64> :(
[03:07] <sagaci> can i view my latest copy pastes in ubuntu, if so, how
[03:07] <seidos> sebsebseb: I know.  What's your point?  The distros benefit each other.
[03:07] <jrib> JTrunner: are you on the server now?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> seidos: distros aren't all fully compatible with each other, but that's off topic here
[03:08] <seidos> JTrunner: that doesn't sound like a problem to me.  is it happening while you're working?
[03:08] <seidos> !ot | seidos
[03:08] <JTrunner> jrib, no. it's at work. I'm trying to set up a ubuntu server. checked the sshd_configure files, made sure ports are open
[03:08] <jrib> JTrunner: well the first step would be to see if you can "ssh localhost" on the server
[03:09] <JTrunner> jrib, it refused
[03:09] <fantazam> game developers would probably make and sell games for linux..but there is problem how can you make one game that is compactibile whit all pther 100 000 distribution :)
[03:09] <jrib> JTrunner: what was the exact output?
[03:09] <kd8JHC> sell them as virtual machines
[03:09] <fantazam> lol
[03:09] <Korlis> help i can't use nautilus
[03:09] <JTrunner> jrib, the message was that the connection was refused
[03:09] <fantazam> damn this flooding is anoying
[03:10] <jrib> JTrunner: did you install openssh-server?
[03:10] <JTrunner> jrib, i did istall
[03:10] <danbhfive> fantazam: this is offtopic, but you could just open source the OS compatibility layers
[03:10] <jrib> JTrunner: did you check that sshd was running?
[03:10] <dm-madman> JTrunner: why on earth would you choose Ubuntu for a server platform?
[03:10] <JTrunner> jrib, yes
[03:10] <Ben64> Ubuntu is a fine server
[03:10] <Korlis> i prefer DEbian for servers
[03:10] <kd8JHC> yeah, i second that
[03:11] <fantazam> danbhfive: i dont wana install anything that is point linux developers must inculde all that things
[03:11] <Ben64> beats fedora at least
[03:11] <dm-madman> I was reluctant to say it here, but really...
[03:11] <MeXTuX> I'm trying to make an OpenSSH connection to my new Ubuntu Server and it is refusing me. Do I need to configure something??
[03:11] <n-iCe> hi
[03:11] <sebsebseb> n-iCe: hi
[03:11] <n-iCe> MeXTuX: yes, open the port 22
[03:11] <jrib> JTrunner: that shouldn't be the case on a default install.  If you install the openssh-server package, you should be able to "ssh localhost" immediately afterwards
[03:11] <seidos> n-iCe: I didn't have to open port 22 on my server
[03:11] <JTrunner> jrib, that's what I thought
[03:11] <seidos> n-iCe: but someone else set it up for me
[03:12] <n-iCe> seidos: you have them open already I guess.
[03:12] <kd8JHC> you wouldn't have to open 22 to get in from your internal LAN
[03:12] <Ben64> doesn't the default ubuntu-server install include sshd?
[03:12] <jrib> JTrunner: is there anything not default about your install?
[03:12] <kd8JHC> only if you want in from outside
[03:12] <n-iCe> seidos: that's why
[03:12] <Ben64> i know ubuntu-desktop doesn't
[03:12] <Flannel> Ben64: Not always
[03:12] <MeXTuX> Does Ubuntu server have an activated firewall by default???
[03:12] <seidos> n-iCe: that's true because I can't ssh to this laptop
[03:12] <sebsebseb> pitput: How's it going?
[03:12] <JTrunner> jrib, no
[03:12] <jrib> MeXTuX: sure, but no rules...
[03:12] <scott_ino2> !adobe
[03:12] <n-iCe> MeXTuX: your router has, are you using Prodigy Infinitum?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !flash |  scott_ino2
[03:12] <jrib> JTrunner: you don't have access to the server now, correct?
[03:12] <scott_ino2> no
[03:12] <scott_ino2> but thanks
[03:12] <Korlis> !lubuntu
[03:13] <JTrunner> jrib, no
[03:13] <fantazam> mextux: ufw firewall is not enable by default
[03:13] <syk> is there a command to update package keys?
[03:13] <pitput> sebsebseb, it's still installing. 19 minutes approximately
[03:13] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu |  Korlis
[03:13] <Korlis> sebsebseb: lubuntu was not a misspelling
[03:13] <sebsebseb> pitput: oh
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Korlis: no?
[03:13] <JTrunner> it shows that it is listening on the port
[03:14] <Korlis> sebsebseb: lubuntu is the officially sacntioned project from the lxde team to have a version of ubuntu with lxde installed by default
[03:14] <fantazam> mextux: install gufw  simple gui for ufw firewall
[03:14] <sebsebseb> Korlis: oh
[03:14] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, my computer is always below expectations
[03:15] <kd8JHC> I tried lxde on my netbook, I kinda liked it
[03:15] <sebsebseb> pitput: RAM is one thing, but of  course the VM will also use your proccessor
[03:15] <Korlis> its fast, that's for sure
[03:15] <kd8JHC> yeah, it's flies
[03:15] <kd8JHC> even on a scrawny netbook
[03:15] <xtiger> anyone one out there who thinks they can solve a simple font problem of mine? ;)
[03:15] <kd8JHC> xtiger: go
[03:16] <MeXTuX> Ok. One more question: I installed noip2 (apt-get install noip2) and want to know if it is going to start by default. Or do I need to setup something ?? Excuse for my poor english :)
[03:16] <xtiger> kd8JHC: my fonts in firefox are tiny
[03:16] <Korlis> sebsebseb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Korlis: ok
[03:16] <xtiger> kd8JHC: firefox is the only application with the problem
[03:16] <kd8JHC> xtiger: probably reduced the font size
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Korlis: thanks I guess
[03:16] <kd8JHC> try control +
[03:16] <Korlis> im here to educate ;-)
[03:16] <xtiger> xangua: If I adjust the font size in firefox, then it messes up webpages
[03:17] <xangua> ¿¿
[03:17] <xtiger> kd8JHC: specifically, I'm referring to the "minimum font size"
[03:17] <kd8JHC> what is it set to?
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Korlis: well makes sense, already Ubuntu/Gnome,  Kubuntu/KDE, and Xubuntu/XFCE
[03:17] <xtiger> kd8JHC: I can zoom, and that works, but I would have to do that on every page I go to
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Korlis: LXDE is pretty popular as well
[03:17] <JTrunner> for sshd, do i need to specify in the ip address of the server?
[03:17] <Zehava> if netstat doesn't show a process or port does that mean that the port is not open??
[03:17] <xtiger> kd8JHC: in order to get most web pages to work properly, I have to allow the webpages to set their own font sizes
[03:17] <Zehava> I know the process is running I can ps aux | grep it and it's there
[03:17] <kd8JHC> go to Edit | Preferences and chage the default font size back to 16 (which is the default)
[03:17] <JTrunner> i meant"do i need to specify the ip address of the server?
[03:17] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: does he want Gubuntu/Gnome ? :)
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Korlis: and no not been on that link just yet
[03:18] <xtiger> kd8JHC: my default font size is 18
[03:18] <Korlis> they should just offer an install cd that lets you choose the DE and downloads the approprate packages based on your choice rather than make 5 diff distros
[03:18] <Hansard> Does anyone know of any programs for ubuntu that let you preview a library of desktop themes and then you can download and install the ones you want? Kind of like a theme download manager / repository.
[03:18] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: I think there is a Gubuntu or something like that hmm
[03:18] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: free software only version
[03:18] <dsdeiz> Is there non Lubuntu/LXDE? :D
[03:18] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: yeah there's something
[03:18] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: lol, that is too funny
[03:18] <kd8JHC> What's the default font face?
[03:18] <xtiger> kd8JHC: here's a screenshot: http://i26.tinypic.com/29xay54.jpg
[03:18] <xtiger> kd8JHC: the default font face is liberation
[03:18] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I guess it fits, after seeing Kubuntu, and Xubuntu
[03:19] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: I think Canonical have a version maybe not,  well there's Gnewsense based on Ubuntu which is free software only
[03:19] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: from The Free Software Foundation
[03:19] <webbb82> is there any other options as far as apps to manage minamized apps
[03:19] <kd8JHC> Are you wanting to change the font size of the content, or what
[03:19] <Korlis> sebsebseb: they have Gobuntu
[03:19] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: hmm, interesting.
[03:19] <xtiger> kd8JHC: yes--notice that the font size of the tabs is fine
[03:19] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: ok it's  Goubuntu thanks  Korlis
[03:19] <kd8JHC> it looks fine to me
[03:19] <Korlis> but gobuntu is being taken down
[03:19] <gradin> hello
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Korlis: taken down as in getting rid of it?
[03:19] <kd8JHC> the tab font looks HUGE to me
[03:20] <Flannel> Korlis, sebsebseb: gobuntu is deprecated, use gNewSense as a recommended alternative
[03:20] <Korlis> yeah, now they'll just have an option on install to use just free software
[03:20] <kd8JHC> it's so big the tab title can't show fully
[03:20] <xtiger> kd8JHC: trust me it's tiny. The tab fonts are relatively small on my monitor, so just try to compare that mentally with the font size
[03:20] <Flannel> Korlis, sebsebseb: they actually already do that, under advanced options
[03:20] <Korlis> Flannel: i know
[03:20] <kd8JHC> i would reset the default font to serif or something
[03:20] <kd8JHC> and make sure you have the ms tt core fonts installed
[03:21] <kd8JHC> do you?
[03:21] <xtiger> kd8JHC: already tried it (that's what it was at originally)
[03:21] <xtiger> kd8JHC: tried that too
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Korlis Flannel  do what?   and that's interesting if  Canonical themselves recommend GNewSense as  an alternative to  Gobuntu
[03:21] <xtiger> kd8JHC: liberation is actually a redhat imitation of mstt core fonts
[03:21] <danbhfive> sebsebseb: I think it was just a name change
[03:21] <noob> greetings #ubuntu
[03:21] <Korlis> they do actually
[03:21] <JTrunner> anyone ever use ebox?
[03:21] <Korlis> i would love E17 if it ever got stable
[03:22] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: I think GNewSense was first?
[03:22] <noob> My laptop suddenly refuses to recognize wireless signals, anyone had get the same sudden problem?
[03:22] <xtiger> noob: do an "ifconfig wlan0 down" then an "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[03:22] <kd8JHC> well xtiger you could do a complete uninstallation of FF and reinstall
[03:23] <xtiger> noob: I'm assuming wlan0 is your wireless device (do "iwconfig" to see your actual wireless device)
[03:23] <noob> xtiger: I'll sound stupid, but I'm on vista right now
[03:23] <pitput> sebsebseb, one minute more
[03:23] <xtiger> kd8JHC: I tried downloading 3.5, but the same thing
[03:23] <sebsebseb> pitput: good
[03:23] <xtiger> noob: so vista has the problem?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> pitput: well and hopefuly it boots up without problems
[03:23] <Korlis> oh no, a windows user, attack!
[03:23] <danbhfive> sebsebseb: yeah, you are correct, nvm
[03:23] <Korlis> im just kidding btw
[03:23] <noob> xtiger: no, neither ubuntu 9.04 or vista will recognize wifi
[03:23] <xtiger> noob: hit function+f2
[03:24] <xtiger> noob: that should turn on wireless. Or you may have another way to enable the wireless card, like a switch
[03:24] <kd8JHC> ok xtiger, what about nosquint?
[03:24] <kd8JHC> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2592
[03:24] <kd8JHC> give that a try
[03:24] <Korlis> some laptops also have a button to turn wireless on and off
[03:24] <sebsebseb> danbhfive: ok
[03:24] <panfist> i want to install the latest ATI drivers from my graphics card from AMD's site and I see this instruction: "32 bit packages must be installed for 64-bit linux drivers to install or work" which 32 bit packages are they referring to??
[03:24] <sebsebseb> panfist: hmm  latest ATI drivers  with Ubuntu 9.04,  this sounds bad
[03:25] <sebsebseb> panfist: you are on 9.04?
[03:25] <xtiger> kd8JHC: that may well work--thanks for the recommmendation
[03:25] <panfist> yes 9,04
[03:25] <kd8JHC> no prob
[03:25] <Guest82806> hey can someone help me with a quick question
[03:25] <Guest82806> im using backtrack and i just got a new alfa wireless card external usb and i cantt get it to show up when i do iwconfig
[03:25] <Guest82806> yes wlan0 is what i use built into the laptop
[03:25] <xtiger> kd8JHC: actually, I was looking for an about:config setting to increase the default zoom, but couldn't find one
[03:25] <Guest82806> i did turn it off but i doesnt show the wireless card
[03:25] <panfist> my 3d performance is absolute crap and video playback has like constant screen tearing
[03:25] <Guest82806> i ahd it work once then not again after reboot it was interface ra0
[03:25] <moxiac> may I know how do you connect to mirc chat and join this chat room from ubuntu?
[03:25] <Guest82806> im using backtrack that is built off ubuntu
[03:25] <sebsebseb> panfist: Why the very latest?  usaully the very latest graphics card drivers,   go bad for people on  Ubuntu,  whatever card they have
[03:25] <blackotaku> hey yall. I have a couple of questions. You got a little time?
[03:25] <queso_> Is there an easy way to search in a channel's past messages in irssi?
[03:25] <weidhhe> intal 5100 abgn can't work well in ubuntu  ?
[03:25] <sebsebseb> panfist: also I have heard something about ATI and then people having to use 8.04 for that,  that might have been the latest drivers
[03:26] <sebsebseb> panfist: heard as in read in here
[03:26] <Guest82806> how can i tell what verion i have
[03:26] <moxiac> may I know how do you connect to mirc chat and join this chat room from ubuntu? I'm on windows vista now just to check this
[03:26] <panfist> if there is any vertical motion in a video file i see two clear distinct lines where it's displaying alternate frames
[03:26] <kd8JHC> ahh
[03:26] <Korlis> blackotaku:  this is IRC, we have time
[03:26] <moxiac> can somebody help me?
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !version |  Guest82806
[03:26] <kd8JHC> xtiger - also make sure you hit "Reset zoom"
[03:26] <panfist> sebsebseb it's on the download page
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !ask |  moxiac
[03:26] <panfist> the newest drivers were released august 2009 on the amd's site
[03:26] <sebsebseb> panfist: also whatever the card,  it's normalely best to "only" install drivers for it from the Ubuntu repo
[03:26] <kd8JHC> control + zero
[03:26] <sebsebseb> panfist: otherwise expect problems
[03:27] <Guest82806> ubuntu 8.10
[03:27] <panfist> sebsebseb well if that's the case then this performance is unacceptable. it's unacceptable as a media player because video quality is crap and 3d performance is crap
[03:27] <Guest82806> is there a camand to start a wireless usb card manualy
[03:27] <sebsebseb> panfist: I see ok
[03:27] <Korlis> moxiac: i dont know if mirc exists for linux, try something like Quassel, or use the default xchat
[03:27] <pitput> sebsebseb, it's working perfectly!
[03:27] <sebsebseb> panfist: you probably got the same issue,  that this other person had
[03:27] <sebsebseb> panfist: and they were told to use 8.04  to use their card properly
[03:28] <sebsebseb> !ati |  panfist
[03:28] <kd8JHC> moxiac: use Pidgin for irc
[03:28] <kd8JHC> bet you already have it installed
[03:28] <panfist> i'm using software rendering because at least that way media files play ok, except that there isn't enough CPU for 720p/h264 anymore, and i cant use 3d
[03:28] <Guest82806> but in backtrack forums i read people are using this but cant find a away to use it
[03:28] <sebsebseb> panfist: feel free to try the ATI drivers from their site if you want in 9.04, but if you get problems with xorg as result,  it's actsaully ATI's fault
[03:28] <Evelina> Is there any tool for detecting language of a text in Ubuntu/Linux? I mean to find out in what language a text is written?
[03:28] <panfist> i see
[03:28] <LucidGuy> Anyone know if scp is logged anywhere .. ubuntu server.
[03:29] <panfist> what issue did the other person have?
[03:29] <sebsebseb> panfist: something similar to what you want to do I think
[03:29] <sebsebseb> panfist: 9.04 being bad for their ATI card
[03:29] <xtiger> Guest82806: do an iwconfig to see the name of the new usb device
[03:29] <Chegger> Evelina not that I know of. You could look at the hex code for unicode symbols from a certain language, but that would probably give a lot of false positives for characters used in multiple languages
[03:29] <Korlis> lalallalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala
[03:29] <Guest82806> 6E7-F57F-9F5E-F9AC-F44B [2]   Security mode:open
[03:29] <Guest82806>           Power Management:off
[03:29] <Guest82806>           Link Quality=87/100  Signal level:-47 dBm  Noise level=-82 dBm
[03:29] <Guest82806>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[03:29] <Guest82806>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[03:30] <sebsebseb> panfist: someone suggested 8.04,  I was like what about 8.10, but nope  even 8.10  will have the issue, because  it  has an xorg  that  ATI don't like
[03:30] <xtiger> Guest82806: use pastebin if you want to paste code
[03:30] <Guest82806> how do i turn power management on
[03:30] <sebsebseb> panfist: or whatever
[03:30] <panfist> i see
[03:30] <Korlis> well im gonna get goin
[03:30] <Korlis> see you all later
[03:30] <sebsebseb> panfist: yeah 8.04 and 8.10/9.04   have  rather differnet versions of xorg
[03:30] <pitput> sebsebseb, the usb option is greyed out in the virtual machine
[03:30] <panfist> what if the driver isn't the problem...could it be two seperate problems effecting media rendering and 3d rendering?
[03:30] <xtiger> Guest82806: don't worry about power management
[03:30] <blackotaku> Ok. I installed Compiz Fusion and set up the Desktop Cube. I also set up a sky dome for it. However, the skydome doesn't load on startup (theres a blank background everytime I reboot). What should I do?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> pitput: and  after you added filters or whatever in the  vm settings?
[03:30] <panfist> how is that ATI's fault?
[03:31] <pitput> it's default vm settings sebsebseb
[03:31] <Guest82806> that sists right under wlan0
[03:31] <sebsebseb> panfist: ,because  most hardware manufactures do not support Linux properly
[03:31] <xtiger> Guest82806: you should see a wlanX device corresponding to your USB car
[03:31] <Guest82806> so i asume thats the usb one
[03:31] <sebsebseb> panfist: as a result, if you do try the ATI drivers,  and get problems with  xorg, well that confirms it
[03:31] <xtiger> Guest82806: do you have a wlan0 and a wlan1?
[03:31] <Guest82806> nothing
[03:31] <Guest82806> no just the one
[03:31] <Evelina> Chegger: Ok, I need some kind of tool to recognize the language of a text.
[03:31] <xtiger> Guest82806: does the laptop have a wireless card itself?
[03:31] <Guest82806> could it be drivers
[03:32] <Guest82806> yes
[03:32] <Evelina> Chegger: Maybe it's possible to match the words against dictioneries?
[03:32] <Guest82806> intell 5100
[03:32] <xtiger> Guest82806: does it work in windows?
[03:32] <Chegger> Evelina I could write one for you for a small fee
[03:32] <Guest82806> yes in windows i turn off wireless and the card takes over
[03:32] <sebsebseb> panfist: also xorg can only do so much,   it  really can't do  certain things or not easilly, because of the reverse enginging, because manufactures have closed source drivers for their cards
[03:32] <Guest82806> when pluged ion
[03:32] <Guest82806> in
[03:32] <xtiger> Guest82806: it could be the drivers
[03:32] <panfist> so it works flawlessly in one version of xorg (maybe) but not another...? wouldn't ati want to mention that on their website if it was a big issue? xorg is a pretty ubiquitous program
[03:32] <sebsebseb> panfist: enginering above
[03:32] <Guest82806> now i have drivers on a cd but i dont know how to install the package
[03:32] <pitput> sebsebseb, what kind of filters do I need to apply?
[03:33] <xtiger> Guest82806: just plug the cd in and read the README
[03:33] <Guest82806> will it have the commands
[03:33] <Guest82806> ?
[03:33] <xtiger> Guest82806: probably
[03:33] <Guest82806> im a noob
[03:33] <Evelina> Chegger: Well, I'll try to find a free solution first of all. I donät think it would be that difficult. Google has a service that recognize language of a text, but I wanted to have my own tool.
[03:33] <xtiger> Guest82806: that's ok. everyone's a noob to someone else
[03:33] <sebsebseb> panfist: ATI  or  any other company that makes graphics card are unlikely to mention on their website  that Ubuntu 9.04 has isues with their card, as far as I know not even Intel does it, and oh yes  there are quite a few Intel graphic card issues with 9.04
[03:34] <panfist> but the issue isn't with ubuntu it's with xorg
[03:34] <panfist> everyone who uses linux including enterprise is likely using xorg
[03:34] <sebsebseb> panfist: in fact truth is a  lot of  hardware manufactures and  software companies, don't care that much about Desktop Linux right now,  because they think it doesn't have enough market share yet
[03:34] <Guest82806> one sec look at the read me
[03:34] <xtiger> panfist: Ubuntu is the one that would suffer possible reputation damage in the eyes of the public
[03:34] <sebsebseb> panfist:   Linux tends to have great hardware support,  yes  Linux as in the kernel, but most of that support has also been reverse enginered
[03:34] <panfist> yes but what about companies like intel, cisco, sun, etc that have thousands of desktop employees running linux
[03:35] <Chegger> Evelina ok. If you decide you want one built PM me
[03:35] <Guest82806> 1> $tar -xvzf RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x.tar.gz
[03:35] <Guest82806> 	go to "./RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x/" directory.
[03:35] <sebsebseb> panfist: and they are also likely to be using hardware, which they know works properly with Linux
[03:35] <panfist> so are there open source drivers that are happier with the current kernel/xorg
[03:35] <Chegger> Evelina wouldn't take more than a day or two and a couple hundred dollars
[03:35] <Guest82806> 2> prepare the firmware (bin file) and the profile (dat file).
[03:35] <Guest82806> 	$cp common/rt2870.bin /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/
[03:35] <Guest82806> 	$cp RT2870STA.dat  /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/
[03:35] <xtiger> Guest82806: sounds like the instructions are pretty simple
[03:35] <xtiger> Guest82806: it's giving you the exact commands
[03:35] <sebsebseb> panfist: the open source drivers have been reverse enginered most/all of them
[03:35] <Flannel> Guest82806: Please use pastebin in the future, thanks.
[03:35] <Guest82806> so just cut the things into the konsole for commands
[03:36] <webbb82> anyone in here ever use fluxbox
[03:36] <webbb82> or hackbox
[03:36] <sebsebseb> panfist: it's up to you if you want to try the ATI drivers from there site, but if you get problems as a result,   just remember it's not Linux/Ubuntu/xorgs fault
[03:36] <xtiger> Guest82806: does the README apply to ubuntu specifically?
[03:37] <Guest82806> linux kernel 2.4 and 2.6 series.
[03:37] <Guest82806> Tested in Redhat 7.3 or later.
[03:37] <xtiger> Guest82806: If the instructions are for RedHat, they might not carry over exactly to ubuntu
[03:37] <moxiac> I have 8.10, can I just upgrade without losing any data which I've saved?
[03:37] <xtiger> Guest82806: for example, there may not be an /etc/wireless
[03:37] <sebsebseb> panfist: as far as I know ATI have no open source drivers, and if they did,  that would be great
[03:37] <Guest82806> but are those instructions copy and pastable into konsole
[03:38] <panfist> i could have swore i read about an open source ati driver project
[03:38] <Guest82806> to try and install them
[03:38] <sebsebseb> panfist: companies tend to keep their hardware specs and that, rather closed
[03:38] <xtiger> Guest82806: yes they are copy and pasteable into konsole, but they may not work on ubuntu
[03:38] <Guest82806> ok well its worth a shot
[03:38] <Guest82806> give me a sec
[03:38] <sebsebseb> panfist: if so is the open source project just the community, or   did  ATI them selves contribute,  if it's the second  :)  if not   reverse enginered  driver
[03:39] <blackotaku> Ok. I installed Compiz Fusion and set up the Desktop Cube. I also set up a sky dome for it. However, the skydome doesn't load on startup (theres a blank background everytime I reboot). What should I do?
[03:39] <xtiger> blackotaku: call the president
[03:39] <Flannel> xtiger: Please be helpful
[03:40] <xtiger> Flannel: I'm sure the president would be able to help
[03:40] <blackotaku> xtiger: >.>
[03:40] <Evelina> Chegger: Thank you, but I will go with Google until I find a solution already built.
[03:41] <sebsebseb> pitput: yeah the USB support in Virtualbox is a bit confussing as to how to do it,  did you download the manual for their site?  have you asked in #vbox  ?  in fact by now you might have it working
[03:41] <Chegger> Evelina ok pappy
[03:41] <blackotaku> Seriously, does anyone know what I should do?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> pitput: the manual from their site is rather good :)
[03:42] <panfist> sebsebseb yes it's a community project which ati claims to assist from time to time
[03:43] <Guest82806> nope nothing
[03:43] <xtiger> Guest82806: were there any errors?
[03:43] <Guest82806> go to "./RT2870_Linux_STA_Drv_x.x.x.x/" directory.
[03:43] <Guest82806> sorry one sec
[03:43] <syk> where do i get support for pidgin?
[03:43] <sebsebseb> panfist: well  try those drivers I guess
[03:43] <Guest82806> ar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[03:43] <Guest82806> tar: Child returned status 2
[03:43] <Guest82806> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[03:43] <panfist> cant find them
[03:43] <xtiger> syk: #pidgin
[03:44] <pitput> sebsebseb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/SharedFolders I'm currently using that guide
[03:44] <Guest82806> is there a irc for remote-exploit
[03:44] <kd8JHC> blackotaku: http://www.futuredesktop.org/compiz_desktop_in_ubuntu9.04.html
[03:44] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok
[03:44] <xtiger> Guest82806: yeah, #remote-exploite
[03:44] <sebsebseb> pitput: however I would suggest
[03:44] <kd8JHC> also, is your sky dome image the right size?
[03:44] <xtiger> Guest82806: sorry, #remote-exploit
[03:44] <sebsebseb> pitput: well it's not good to share anything with Windows really :D
[03:45] <sebsebseb> pitput: esapilly if it's for example a /home in a Linux distro
[03:45] <Guest82806> im going to try there
[03:45] <Guest82806> this si the system i ahve
[03:45] <losher> Am I the only one who sees an atrocious lag when changing volume in audacious?
[03:45] <xtiger> Guest82806: wireless in linux is one of the most frustrating things--good luck
[03:45] <blackotaku> kd8JHC: thank you very much :)
[03:46] <kd8JHC> no prob.  get it working already?
[03:46] <rafase282> Hello I need help with my audio
[03:46] <sevol> does anyone know to get the sound to work in kubuntu? my sound always work in ubuntu but never in kubuntu for some reason
[03:46] <xtiger> rafase282: did you try turning the volume up?
[03:46] <rafase282> yes
[03:46] <gradin> is there any way to get a logitech quickcam working?
[03:46] <rafase282> I have audio on my headphones but not the speakers
[03:47] <rafase282> I have an hp dv5
[03:47] <xmnt_> rafase282, maybe your ears aren't working
[03:47] <MK-ubuntu> hi
[03:47] <rafase282> Maybe you are not very smart or just slow at typing.
[03:47] <blackotaku> kd8JHC: not yet, I'm working on it though.
[03:47] <rafase282> I already said I do get audio form my headphones.
[03:47] <kd8JHC> blackotaku: k.  keep us posted
[03:47] <MGNS> I need help to know Com Ports
[03:47] <plantain> I just got my new DSLR camera which shoots RAW images - what do people suggest for importing / manipulating them (eqv. of Lightroom?)
[03:47] <sevol> :O
[03:48] <HeckleJeckle> Com Ports meet MGNS
[03:48] <xmnt_> plantain, virtual and lightroom
[03:48] <kd8JHC> plantain: F spot to import, Gimp for editing
[03:48] <MGNS> Hello Ports
[03:48] <kd8JHC> thats what I use
[03:48] <xmnt_> plantain, sorry virtual Box and lightrooom
[03:48] <HeckleJeckle> MGNS: what did you need to know
[03:48] <MGNS> You know could say whom of you have my N95 connected to
[03:49] <xtiger> rafase282: maybe it's on mute and you don't know it
[03:49] <xtiger> rafase282: try alsamixer
[03:49] <blackotaku> kd8JHC: k. I'm going to reboot and see if it stays this time
[03:49] <kd8JHC> k
[03:49] <HeckleJeckle> MGNS: are you connecting via USB perhaps?
[03:50] <MGNS> I do, like I'm folowing a guide for windows to Hack the cellphone
[03:50] <panfist> apparently the ati open source drivers go up to the generation BEFORE my card :(
[03:51] <MGNS> And at some point I need to edit a Python code to change the "serial.serial" text to the Com port I'm using to connect the cell
[03:51] <Techie> panfist - what ATI card are you using?
[03:51] <MGNS> I know it's kindda lot of useless info lol
[03:52] <xtiger> panfist: http://www.freeos.com/articles/2677/
[03:52] <sevol> does anyone kno how to set a sound driver as the default?
[03:52] <panfist> 3450
[03:52] <noob> xtiger: what were thoe commands you suggested?
[03:53] <LucidGuy> can someone remind of the command that displays full details of a file .. as in last read written too created .. etc.
[03:53] <DasEi> sevol:put it in /etc/modules ?
[03:53] <panfist> xtiger ati also published specs for those cards that have an open source driver. my generation = closed spec still
[03:53] <DasEi> put*
[03:53] <HeckleJeckle> MGNS: take a look at linux specific instructions
[03:53] <HeckleJeckle> http://gagravarr.org/series-60/
[03:53] <xtiger> noob: "ifconfig wlan0 down" and "ifconfig wlan0 up"
[03:53] <shane2peru> LucidGuy: ls -l
[03:53] <LucidGuy> shane2peru, no not ls ..  that doesnt show you who accessed the file last
[03:53] <LucidGuy> thats what I need
[03:54] <blackotaku> Hey I'm back! It worked, thank you.
[03:54] <noob> xtiger: nothing happend
[03:54] <shane2peru> LucidGuy: hmm, sorry that is over my head. :)
[03:54] <xtiger> panfist: http://www.amazon.com/Reversing-Secrets-Engineering-Eldad-Eilam/dp/0764574817/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252637655&sr=8-1
[03:54] <sevol> DasEi: no.. when i do cat /proc/asound/cards it lists 2, the first one it lists is the one i want to remove >_< ( hopefully thats the reason why my sound doesn't work )
[03:54] <xtiger> noob: what was your problem again?
[03:54] <dm-madman> noob: I'll help you out, i appreciate your honesty...what's the issue?
[03:54] <panfist> xtiger: http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/standup/standupfull.html
[03:55] <MeXTuX> Which one is the best FTP server?? ProFTPD or VSFTPD??
[03:55] <DasEi> sevol : so you set in system >preferences > default sound card
[03:55] <noob> xtiger: my computer, which is dual booting 9.04 and vista, suddenly stopped receiving wireless signal on both OS's
[03:55] <sebsebseb> !best |  MeXTuX
[03:55] <Evelina> Chegger: Pappy? ;)
[03:55] <xtiger> panfist: haha, but actually it may be your only solution
[03:56] <dm-madman> sebsebseb: stop encouraging it
[03:56] <odinsbane> Whats a good way to use my computer as an alarm?
[03:56] <panfist> xtiger the only solution that doesnt involve spending money
[03:56] <noob> xtiger: one day it was running great, the next day it was not
[03:56] <HeckleJeckle> also , here is a tut about serial ports
[03:56] <HeckleJeckle> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-out-linux-serial-ports-with-setserial/
[03:56] <sebsebseb> dm-madman: encouraging what?
[03:56] <MGNS> HeckleJeckle: Thanks I will try to look a whyle
[03:56] <xtiger> xtiger: does wireless work in windows for you?
[03:56] <xtiger> noob: does wireless work in windows for you?
[03:56] <Guest007> odinsbane: You can make a bash program. Or maybe you can find an applet that does that for GNOME.
[03:56] <sebsebseb> xtiger: messaged yourself :D
[03:56] <noob> xtiger: I can rule out hardware failure, as dell tech support had me run a hardware check
[03:56] <xtiger> sebsebseb: whoops
[03:56] <noob> xtiger: no, it doesn't work on either OS
[03:57] <odinsbane> Guest007: I'd be down with the bash program, but I think the computer wll fall asleep.
[03:57] <xtiger> noob: did you locate your wireless switch? (or try hiting Fn+F2)
[03:57] <Guest007> odinsbane: Check out http://alarm-clock.pl
[03:57] <noob> xtiger: I am using wicd on ubuntu because I thought it might be network manage at first, but to no avail
[03:57] <dm-madman> sebsebseb: that annoying bot
[03:57] <sebsebseb> !bot |  dm-madman
[03:57] <Guest007> odinsbane: Why would it fall asleep? When the computer is idle, the screensaver may come up, but all the programs will still be running
[03:57] <charonp1> can anyone reproduce this? `rmdir ~/Desktop` & firefox -> organize bookmarks -> import and backup -> restore -> choose file -> ~/Desktop is created?
[03:57] <LucidGuy> besides users .bash_history files, are commands kept logged elsewhere.  Or more specificly what has to be in place for logging of file modifications ex. file creation/copies etc.
[03:57] <noob> xtiger: fn f2 does nothing, I have a button on the underside of my laptop, but I do not know what it does
[03:58] <Krampus> So I have an md array where the power cable to two of the drives flaked and they both disappeared for awhile.  The array kicked itself into read-only mode when that happened, but I can't convince it that they're fine and re-add them.
[03:58] <xtiger> noob: do you have an LED on your laptop for wireless that lights up when wireless is working?
[03:58] <Guest007> odinsbane: A computer can't wake you up when it is sleeping :P
[03:58] <Krampus> Any ideas?  I had this same thing happen a couple weeks ago and I fixed it, but i can't find the page that had the commands i used to do so.
[03:58] <kd8JHC> did the guy with the compiz problem get it working?
[03:58] <Chegger> Evelina it's a term of endearment, like "dude" or "man"
[03:58] <noob> xtiger: yes. it is unlit =(
[03:58] <odinsbane> Guest007: a windows box can.
[03:58] <Megiddo2> Hi all
[03:58] <xtiger> noob: when you hit fn+f2 does the light turn on?
[03:59] <Megiddo2> I need to talk to someone in to forum counsil
[03:59] <noob> xtiger: no
[03:59] <bumbblebee> how can i check last shutdown time of my machine from command line?
[03:59] <Megiddo2> because I wont be able to make it....
[03:59] <xtiger> noob: can you recall the light ever working?
[03:59] <rafase282> xtiger, it was not on mute, I checked. I used options snd-hda-intel model=hp-dv5
[03:59] <rafase282> options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1
[03:59] <rafase282> options snd slots=snd-hda-intel
[03:59] <rafase282> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[03:59] <rafase282> alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
[03:59] <shane2peru> xtiger: I have a toshiba laptop mine is Fn f8 for wireless?
[03:59] <noob> xtiger: yes, it has always worked
[03:59] <rafase282> it shoudl fix it
[03:59] <Megiddo2> is there any way I can do that?
[03:59] <xtiger> noob: do you have a warranty?
[03:59] <Megiddo2> e_e
[03:59] <Guest007> odinsbane: Well if you install an alarm, it should work as long as the computer is running. I would actually suggest making a Bash script since without a GUI running (and many other programs) it will conserve energy.
[03:59] <shane2peru> xtiger: are you sure his is Fn f2?
[04:00] <noob> xtiger: yes, but a hardware test yielded no results
[04:00] <xtiger> noob: did you dell person you called tell you a button press or button to turn on/off wireless?
[04:00] <noob> xtiger: no
[04:00] <Megiddo2> um.... can anyone help me out some?
[04:00] <xtiger> bumbblebee: uptime
[04:00] <shane2peru> Megiddo2: can you be a little more specific with the question?
[04:00] <Guest007> Megiddo2: Tell us your question, and we may be able to help.
[04:01] <Megiddo2> I already asked....
[04:01]  * Guest007 scrolls
[04:01] <b-f> What is thestate of the betas for 9.10 right now?\
[04:01] <Megiddo2> I wont be able to make it to the ubuntu meeting on sept. 23 at 8PM EST
[04:01] <Megiddo2> because I will be at work...
[04:01] <MGNS> HeckleJeckle: Sorry, but can you check the guide so you can look best on what I'm trying to do? http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=242798
[04:02] <Megiddo2> is there any way for me to contact the forum coucil to talk about possibly unbanning my account before hand
[04:02] <xtiger> noob: there may be something in the BIOS to tell you how to turn on/off wireless
[04:02] <Megiddo2> it has been over a year since I was banned....
[04:02] <charonp1> does the ubuntu build of firefox create a non exiting ~/Desktop when it opens an 'open file' dialog?
[04:02] <noob> xtiger: I'll look into it
[04:03] <xtiger> noob: you should just be able to hit a key press as your computer is booting to enter "setup" or something
[04:03] <Megiddo2> do you think there is any way I can do this?
[04:04] <xtiger> Megiddo2: what were you banned from?
[04:04] <DasEi> charonp1: no...
[04:04] <Megiddo2> Ubuntu Forums
[04:04] <b-f> Have you checked the forums for a thread about unbannimg?
[04:04] <Megiddo2> about a year or more ago
[04:04] <Megiddo2> for repeated offenses
[04:04] <Megiddo2> I have grown up since the
[04:04] <charonp1> DasEi: thank you
[04:04] <xtiger> Megiddo2: just use a different user name
[04:04] <Megiddo2> I was 15
[04:04] <Megiddo2> but then it will be on the same IP
[04:04] <Megiddo2> I do not want to get banned again...
[04:04] <xtiger> Megiddo2: then just use a different IP
[04:05] <Megiddo2> e_e
[04:05] <Megiddo2> I kind of cant
[04:05] <b-f> He's a kid. How's he gonna do that?
[04:05] <Megiddo2> I am 19
[04:05] <Megiddo2> actually it has been almost 4 years.
[04:05] <Megiddo2> holy crap
[04:05] <Parisi> Can somebody give me some suggestions on installing Vista 7 and Ubuntu side by side? I just installed Ubuntu after Vista. And GRUB is supposedely installed on the Linux / partition. 7 Boot loader still works fine.
[04:05] <Megiddo2> or maybe less who knows
[04:05] <b-f> Tor, mayhaps.
[04:06] <Megiddo2> I just use 2 hard drives
[04:06] <xtiger> Megiddo2: I didn't know bans last that long. that's worse a worse punishment than some violent crimes!
[04:06] <Megiddo2> I made repeated offenses with spam...
[04:06] <ingenioushax> Question: How do I set up OpenOffice? I downloaded the tar file, but IDK how to get it all loaded up.
[04:06] <rww> Megiddo2: try asking in #ubuntuforums
[04:06] <Megiddo2> by making stupid topics
[04:06] <Megiddo2> k
[04:06] <xtiger> Megiddo2: did you get any money out of it?
[04:06] <charonp1> ingenioushax: there should be an install script in the tar ball
[04:07] <Megiddo2> O-o
[04:07] <shane2peru> ingenioushax: it is recommended to install OpenOffice through Synaptic
[04:07] <b-f> Aare the 9.10 betas out yet?
[04:07] <Megiddo2> do not be stupid
[04:07] <rww> b-f: no
[04:07] <b-f> Foo.
[04:07] <xtiger> Megiddo2: why would you advertise (spam) unless you were getting paid?
[04:07] <ingenioushax> Thanks. Ill look for it in the Synaptic
[04:07] <rww> b-f: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[04:07] <kd8JHC> she just said she was making silly topics
[04:07] <shane2peru> b-f: I believe it is still in alpha
[04:07] <Megiddo2> I made a bunch of useless topics
[04:07] <noob> xtiger: my BIOS did have wireless options, but they were all enabled and still are
[04:08] <DasEi> Megiddo2: can you join #ubuntuforums ?
[04:08] <xtiger> noob: did your BIOS have a key press for enabling/disabling wireless also?
[04:08] <subone> Is there an appplication I can use to verify that my game controller is working and/or customize the buttons?
[04:08] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, they tell me to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[04:08] <shane2peru> noob: sounds like you need to have the dell techs re-check the prob
[04:08] <noob> xtiger: it didn't say
[04:08] <pitput> sebner, but I don't really understand it
[04:09] <sebsebseb> pitput: oh ok
[04:09] <ihave> hello
[04:09] <Guest007> subone: You can try supertux first.
[04:09] <noob> shane2peru: hardware support is free, they said anything further will cost me
[04:09] <ihave> i was wondering if i bought a vga y splitter cable so i could plug two monitors into my computer.
[04:09] <Guest007> subone: And usually I believe the customization of buttons is application-specific.
[04:10] <subone> Guest007: I meant like a control panel for controllers
[04:10] <shane2peru> noob: that is a bummer, it really sounds like you have a problem, if it doesn't work in either OS, that is bad,
[04:10] <sebsebseb> pitput: hmm didn't have to do this before with older versions of Ubuntu
[04:10] <ihave> if i could use it to display 2 desktops on both screens and move documents back and forth. or to stretch it to have one desktop on both
[04:10] <AspergersWorld> Hi.
[04:10] <Guest007> ihave: You can use a VGA splitter, but you will only get a duplicate signal. It won't give you extra screen space.
[04:10] <shane2peru> noob: can you check all your F# keys and see which one displays a wireless type symbol?
[04:10] <Megiddo> sorry
[04:11] <Megiddo> my internet cut out
[04:11] <ihave> i mean instead of repeating the same image it would stretch the desktop to use both monitors to display the same picture
[04:11] <ihave> so like one monitor but with two
[04:11] <subone> ihave: not possible with a splitter
[04:11] <Guest007> ihave: No, you will need a graphics card with dual monitor support. Sorry.
[04:11] <ihave> darn.
[04:11] <Megiddo> O-o
[04:11] <subone> or multiple graphics cards perhaps
[04:11] <Guest007> ihave: subone: Actually...
[04:12] <bumbblebee> xtiger, i used last
[04:12] <leaf-sheep> ihave: Something simple would be ..... GIMP!  Make a new image of two wallpaper attached.
[04:12] <Megiddo> what graphics card do you have?
[04:12] <Guest007> ihave: subone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1075932 Forgive me if I mistyped the link.
[04:12] <ihave> the worst EVER intel integrated
[04:12] <dserban> I have two usb keyboards, both with media keys, when I set keycode = whatever, it works for one of the keyboards, the other keyboard has buttons for the same functions, but xev seems to be reporting that the keyboard is overriding what I had set in xmodmap.  ... things like on keyboard 1 .. vol up key is set to ], the other uses the same keycode for the same button (volup) but on xev.. it reports XF86AudioUp... err.. wth?  and how do
[04:12] <dserban>  I set it to be a value of
[04:13] <dserban> ]?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> pitput: you do what it says
[04:13] <subone> Guest007: he is talking VGA
[04:14] <ihave> ok well i was just going to buy a y splitter off ebay. is it worth it...
[04:14] <ihave> btw im using jaunty
[04:14] <MindVirus> Hello. My styles are all messed up; using Human, when I select an hover over any menu, only half of the selected item is highlighted.
[04:14] <AspergersWorld> I use Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition.
[04:15] <ihave> windows xp slows down internet speed :p
[04:15] <ihave> i have to clear the cache every 30 min on this comp (xp home)
[04:15] <Indian`> ihave:  yes it does
[04:16] <AspergersWorld> And I'm having trouble installing and/or booting to Ubuntu 9.04.
[04:16] <IdleOne> !windows
[04:16] <Indian`> AspergersWorld:  like
[04:16] <hn8456> hi all
[04:16] <Irishmanluke> MindVirus: your styles are messed up on your website?
[04:16] <hn8456> how i can set the tab position in gnome-terminal ?
[04:16] <ihave> sucky thing is you have to "perfect" the art of xorg editing with an intel integrated video chip :p
[04:16] <Indian`> do you wanna see the video tutorials AspergersWorld
[04:16] <MindVirus> Irishmanluke: GTK styles.
[04:16] <dserban> So?  Should I ask a simpler question?
[04:16] <dserban> heh
[04:16] <Irishmanluke> oh ok
[04:16] <Irishmanluke> I was thinking css
[04:17] <leaf-sheep> AspergersWorld: What did you install first and second?
[04:17] <Irishmanluke> heh
[04:17] <Guest007> hn8456: What do you mean my tab position? You can drag and drop the tabs to re-order.
[04:17] <Guest007> by, rather
[04:17] <ihave> ok i got helped i will stop talking :p
[04:17] <hn8456> ok
[04:17] <Indian`> ihave:  ;)
[04:18] <hn8456> Guest007: no
[04:18] <Guest007> hn8456: What's up?
[04:18] <Guest82806> how do i install wireless drivers
[04:18] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Guest82806
[04:18] <hn8456> the bottom tab position, like konsole, please
[04:18] <Guest18045> Anyone know if there's a program that works like Windows 7 short cut "Win+Right or Left arrow"
[04:19] <Guest007> hn8456: Oh you mean orientation. One moment please.
[04:19] <Guest82806> hey once u get baned from a irc can u ever go back
[04:20] <Guest007> Guest82806: Never.
[04:20] <Guest82806> there ass holes over in remote-exploit
[04:20] <IdleOne> Guest82806: watch your language please
[04:20] <shane2peru> !language | Guest82806
[04:20] <Paddy_NI> !o4o | Guest82806
[04:20] <KB1JWQ> !gutsy
[04:20] <MindVirus> Guest007: Guest82806: you can get unbanned on IRC.
[04:21] <Guest007> MindVirus: I was making sure he wasn't encouraged :P
[04:21] <scott_ino2> wait a second... this entire time i thought it was gusty
[04:21] <MindVirus> Guest007: there is no need to lie.
[04:21] <Guest007> hn8456: Sorry. gnome-terminal doesn't have this functionality.
[04:21] <AspergersWorld> Hi everyone!
[04:22] <Paddy_NI> Guest007: Of course everyone gets a second chance mate
[04:22] <Guest007> Well hello AspergersWorld
[04:22] <hn8456> Guest007: ok, thanks anyway
[04:22] <Guest007> Paddy_NI: Ah okay :) I agree.
[04:22] <Paddy_NI> :)
[04:22] <Paddy_NI> cheers mate
[04:23] <topo> Hello does any one knows what "%u" means at the end of a command
[04:23] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> topo: Where do you see this?\
[04:23] <lstarnes> topo: URL
 at the end of launcher commands?
[04:25] <Guest82806> im trying to install drivers for wifi
[04:25] <topo> lstarnes: what is it use for
[04:25] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> topo: Yes lstarnes is correct. It is a URL.
[04:25] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> Guest82806: Take a look at /msg ubottu wireless
[04:25] <topo> Thx to both
[04:25] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> !wireless > Guest82806
[04:25] <lstarnes> topo: in the gui, %u is replaced with the url that will be opened
[04:26] <topo> lstarnes: Thanks, its there a list of this? what are they called?
[04:26] <LucidGuy> Does ubuntu audit file access modifications etc?
[04:26] <lstarnes> topo: I can't remember a list
[04:26] <Paddy_NI> Pici: Excuse me Sir... but are you there..?
[04:26] <lstarnes> topo: the only name that I can think of is variables
[04:27] <Paddy_NI> and available
[04:27] <jwfoxjr> ok, so I just rebooted and remote 9.04 Desktop install and can't ssh to it - is it because NetworkManager controls the networking?
[04:27] <Paddy_NI> more importantly
[04:27] <topo> lstarnes: any idea about the %s
[04:27] <lstarnes> topo: it's a string of characters
[04:27] <Paddy_NI> %cake
[04:27] <Paddy_NI> !cake
[04:27] <lstarnes> topo: possibly in any format
[04:27] <mookie> !list
[04:27] <Paddy_NI> :
[04:27] <ninabeena> cake?
[04:27] <Paddy_NI> :(
[04:27] <Paddy_NI> I like cake
[04:27] <lstarnes> topo: %u is always a url string, but I think %s can be anything
[04:28] <Paddy_NI> and trees
[04:28] <ninabeena> cake is okay
[04:28] <Paddy_NI> and pie
[04:28] <ninabeena> oh pie is wonderful
[04:28] <Paddy_NI> and wicker underwear
[04:28] <ninabeena> thats not so great
[04:28] <mookie> I wanna buy one
[04:28] <Paddy_NI> wicker underwear is the bestest
[04:28] <chuck> How do I get pycurl in ubuntu?
[04:28] <pitput> sebsebseb, yeah, I'm just going to install xp the original way
[04:28] <ninabeena> what is wicker underwear
[04:28] <sebsebseb> pitput: no
[04:28] <chuck> apt-cache search pycurl   is bringing up nada
[04:28] <sebsebseb> pitput: a vm :)
[04:28] <topo> lstarnes: thanks a lot I'll try to google a list of this variables, maybe modifiers it`s a good name
[04:28] <sebsebseb> pitput: what's up?
[04:29] <sebsebseb> pitput: that page you gave is easy to follow and understand, for me anyway
[04:29] <ninabeena> that sounds unformfortable
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> ninabeena: the best thing since sliced knickers
[04:29] <lstarnes> chuck: I think you want python-pycurl
[04:29] <pitput> sebsebseb,  if [ "`grep vboxusers /etc/group|grep $USER`" == "" ] ; then sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a $USER ; fi
[04:29] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Paddy_NI  ninabeena
[04:29] <pitput> sebsebseb, I didn't get that at all
[04:29] <sebsebseb> pitput: you are probably already in the vboxusers group
[04:29] <ninabeena> someone needs to help me, I'm new to this
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> sebsebseb: taste my underwear
[04:29] <Paddy_NI> and get a life
[04:29] <sebsebseb> !ops | Paddy_NI
[04:30] <LucidGuy> Auditing question .. I think.  If I login to our file server tar up a directory and then scp it to my home system.  Then clear my .bash_history ..   does an admin have logs somewhere of all commands made on the system.
[04:30] <Paddy_NI> sad
[04:30] <sebsebseb> ninabeena: help with what?
[04:30] <ninabeena> yup
[04:30] <Amaranth> Paddy_NI: uh
[04:30] <ninabeena> i have no idea what i'm doing
[04:30] <Paddy_NI> Amaranth: I get missinterpreted
[04:30] <sebsebseb> ninabeena: What do you want to do?
[04:30] <tritium> Paddy_NI: enough of that
[04:30] <ninabeena> what can i do
[04:30] <Stevethepirate> Hi, Ive installed a MySQL db on ubuntu, everything is fine, just when I make a new DB with a user, and then make some php to access the db, it gives a *Access denied for user* error. The password is definately right, the details are right. If I use root password it works, just I obviously dont want to give all users root x(
[04:30] <Paddy_NI> Amaranth: some people have too much time on thier hands
[04:30] <pitput> sebsebseb, I definitely don't understand part 3 either
[04:31] <Paddy_NI> like sebsebseb
[04:31] <herenbdy_> hello, how can I get SSH access into a friend's computer?
[04:31] <Amaranth> Paddy_NI: If it's not helping someone or asking for help it is offtopic here
[04:31] <Paddy_NI> who lives in a basement
[04:31] <chuck> lstarnes: it says "no candidate version found for python-pycurl"
[04:31] <lstarnes> herenbdy_: your friend must create an account for you
[04:31] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> herenbdy_: With his password
[04:31] <Amaranth> Paddy_NI: Insults are not welcome
[04:31] <herenbdy_> how does he do so?
[04:31] <Paddy_NI> Amaranth: fair enough
[04:31] <lstarnes> chuck: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:31] <Shanebe> herenbdy: your friend has to be running an ssh server and give you an account
[04:31] <lstarnes> herenbdy_: does he know how to make a regular user account?
[04:31] <herenbdy_> yes
[04:32] <steven_> Why does  my sound not work anymore when I install Ubuntu?
[04:32] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> herenbdy_: With that same way. When you ssh into the computer you use the same username and password as if by logging in locally.
[04:32] <sebsebseb> pitput: hang on a sec i'll help you
[04:32] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Your sound card may be incompatible..
[04:32] <herenbdy_> Ubuntu_Helper_00: thanks... then I can use ssh his_ip_address ?
[04:33] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: What is the make and model of your computer?
[04:33] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> herenbdy_: Yes exactly.
[04:33] <herenbdy_> thanks
[04:33] <lstarnes> herenbdy_: ssh username@IP
[04:33] <steven_> Dell XPS M1530
[04:33] <sebsebseb> ninabeena: ok hi
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[04:34] <Stevethepirate> Hi, Ive installed a MySQL db on ubuntu, everything is fine, just when I make a new DB with a user, and then make some php to access the db, it gives a *Access denied for user* error. The password is definately right, the details are right. If I use root password it works, just I obviously dont want to give all users root x(
[04:34] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> herenbdy_: You can also use SFTP to transfer files.
[04:34] <chuck> lstarnes: I'm using Jolicloud OS, which is based on Ubuntu netbook remix and uses jaunty's sources
[04:34] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Try "sudo alsactl init" in the terminal.
[04:34] <jwfoxjr> ok, so I just rebooted and remote 9.04 Desktop install and can't ssh to it - is it because NetworkManager controls the networking?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> ninabeena: first of all how did you end up with Ubuntu?
[04:34] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> Stevethepirate: Try asking in #mysql. Maybe they can give you better advise.
[04:34] <webbb82> ivve been thinking about installin debain is there anything ubuntu does that debain cant
[04:34] <Paddy_NI> It is kinda funny when your pet dogs bebo page is more active than some of the people you meet from /america(ubuntu).com mega wopper dupper
[04:34] <Stevethepirate> ah, this is true.
[04:34] <lstarnes> chuck: I don't think this channel can properly support unofficial derivatives
[04:34] <jwfoxjr> and if so, should I manually define my networking stuff?
[04:35] <Paddy_NI> lmao
[04:35] <Paddy_NI> :)
[04:35] <Amaranth> webbb82: Ubuntu tends to be more up-to-date and sets a lot of things up for you
[04:35] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: One moment while I look for you make and model online.
[04:35] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: did you install openssh-server?
[04:35] <leaf-sheep> :)
[04:35] <Paddy_NI> perspective people PLEASe
[04:35] <webbb82> ok
[04:35] <webbb82> thanks
[04:35] <jwfoxjr> yes - was ssh'd in - ran an apt-get upgrade - rebooted
[04:36] <lstarnes> chuck: its package name may be pycurl, which is in jaunty's main repo
[04:36] <steven_> Unknown hardware; "HDA-Intel"  "SigmaTel STAC9228" "HDA: 83847616, 1028022e, 00100201" "" ""  Hardware is initialized using a guess method
[04:36] <jwfoxjr> I've noticed the same thing with my home machine when I'm at work - so I set it up to auto-login...but I can't do it with this machine at my office
[04:36] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: What flavor and version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:36] <steven_> Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit
[04:36] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok
[04:36] <sebsebseb> pitput: still here?
[04:36] <pitput> you know it sebsebseb
[04:37] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: should I just configure eth0 via /etc/network/interfaces and disable NetworkManager?
[04:37] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok vboxusers group your probably already in that, let's find out
[04:37] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Does the sound work?  Also, make sure it's not muted. :)
[04:37] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: I don't think networkmanager has an effect on it
[04:37] <sebsebseb> pitput: on the top right, where it says your name right click  and users and groups
[04:37] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: check your ufw/iptables rules
[04:37] <sebsebseb> pitput: unlock it with your password, and see  what groups your in
[04:37] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: and make sure that sshd is running
[04:38] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: not running any firewall on it - like I said, sshd was running, I was ssh'd into it...
[04:38] <sebsebseb> pitput: my install is a bit  different since... nevermind, but yeah it's something like that
[04:38] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: but you are currently unable to do so?
[04:38] <pitput> sebsebseb, i'm in root and home
[04:38] <sebsebseb> pitput: is there also a vboxusers  group listed?
[04:38] <pitput> sebsebseb, no
[04:39] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: yep - that's right....maybe I should have used the server version instead of desktop - since it's going to be my FOG server
[04:39] <sebsebseb> pitput: are there any other groups listed?
[04:39] <steven_> Cannot hear sound at all. Not muted
[04:39] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: is sshd running now?
[04:39] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Okay your sound can maybe be fixed by editing the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base and appending 'options snd-hda-intel model=dell'
[04:39] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: I can't even ping the box - that's what's telling me networking isn't up yet...
[04:39] <pitput> sebsebseb, when i go to manage groups, it's there but greyed out
[04:39] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: And then you would I think restart your computer.
[04:40] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: did you reboot it remotely?
[04:40] <sebsebseb> pitput: and you  put in the password
[04:40] <pitput> sebsebseb, i didnt put in a password and theres no option for that
[04:40] <steven_> How do I edit the file? I have no idea how to even get to that, much less edit it
[04:40] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: yes - after I added my updates.
[04:41] <sebsebseb> I  wanted to try and help  ninabeena, but looks like she/he has left oh well,  probably also the type of person that will find  Ubuntu pretty difficult,  unless someone helps them out with it rather properly
[04:41] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: it is possible that it may not have fully rebooted
[04:41] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: none of the other services are reachable - like the web server or the mysql server
[04:41] <pitput> sebsebseb, wait! i see it now
[04:41] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: or networking isn't working
[04:41] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Press Alt+F2 and enter 'gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base'
[04:41] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: if it doesn't use a static IP, its IP address may have changed
[04:41] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Then you would proceed to enter your password.
[04:42] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: A window will come up similar to Notepad where you can then add that line.
[04:42] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: doubtful that it didn't reboot properly - like I said I've had this problem with 9.04 desktop before with my home machine, and set up auto-login to resolv the issue...
[04:42] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: nobody seems to know if on Desktop if NetworkManager controls the network stack or not
[04:42] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: it has some control
[04:42] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: If model=dell doesn't work after you restart and check for volumes and whether it is muted, you can replace it with model=ref
[04:42] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: is a static IP - first thing I do when I set up a box
[04:43] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: for me, it still respects /etc/network/interfaces
[04:43] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: well I know that the /etc/network/interfaces on that box only had: auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[04:44] <lstarnes> jwfoxjr: no other parameters?
[04:44] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok can you enable it
[04:44] <sebsebseb> pitput: add your self to it?
[04:44] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: that why I think NetworkManger has full control of the networking.....and if it was manually defined in /etc/network/interfaces would probably be up...
[04:44] <pitput> sebsebseb, i'm a group on it now
[04:45] <sebsebseb> pitput: have you added yourself to that group?
[04:45] <jwfoxjr> lstarnes: no other parameters...interface was defined right in NetworkManager...
[04:45] <sebsebseb> pitput: if not or I guess maybe even be sure, you can run the command that page gave
[04:45] <steven_> That file is empty.  Is that normal?
[04:45] <steven_> Nothing in it at all
[04:46] <lstarnes> steven_: that doesn't seem unusual if it's a new file
[04:46] <steven_> Alright.  I have no idea either way lol
[04:46] <sadrolla> hi , i now install kde 4.3.1 in ubuntu 9.04 , and synaptic is download kdebase-workspace-wallpapers package with 47 mg , i like not download this file , who can help me :d
[04:46] <lstarnes> steven_: installing a package requires installing all of its dependencies
[04:47] <steven_> restarting now...
[04:47] <leaf-sheep> Stevethepirate: I think you mistyped.
[04:47] <sebsebseb> pitput: system > administration > terminal
[04:47] <leaf-sheep> Err... steven_ ^^
[04:47] <sebsebseb> pitput: that's where commands go always
[04:48] <sadrolla> hi , i now install kde 4.3.1 in ubuntu 9.04 , and synaptic is download kdebase-workspace-wallpapers package with 47 mg , i like not download this file , who can help me :d
[04:48] <pitput> sebsebseb, I get that part but do I input that whole thing into the terminal?
[04:49] <sebsebseb> pitput: yes
[04:49] <sebsebseb> pitput: in each box is  a command to run
[04:49] <sebsebseb> pitput: 1  2 3
[04:49] <sebsebseb> pitput: and it needs to be done in order really
[04:50] <Hansard> I'm getting screen tearing when I play video, anyone know where I should start in order to fix this?
[04:50] <sadrolla> hi , i now install kde 4.3.1 in ubuntu 9.04 , and synaptic is download kdebase-workspace-wallpapers package with 47 mg , i like not download this file , who can help me :d
[04:50] <pitput> sebsebseb, I inputed " vGid="`grep vboxusers /etc/group|cut -d\: -f3`" # Determine the devgid for the vboxusers group
[04:50] <pitput>  if [ "$vGid" ] && [ "`grep usbfs /etc/fstab`" == "" ] ; then
[04:50] <pitput>         echo "none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=${vGid},devmode=664 0 0" >>/etc/fstab
[04:50] <pitput>         mount -a
[04:50] <pitput>  fi" as ONE command?
[04:50] <bruenig> that is ugly
[04:50] <steven_> Sound is still not working
[04:51] <sebsebseb> pitput: yes and  that's also the 3rd thing for you to do
[04:51] <leaf-sheep> steven_: I think you mistyped the path.
[04:51] <pitput> sebsebseb, wow. that was one big command line. Now usb should work?
[04:51] <sebsebseb> pitput: did you do 1 and 2 first?
[04:51] <sebsebseb> pitput: command or series of commands whatever it is
[04:51] <bruenig> if [[ $vGid ]] && ! grep -q usbfs /etc/fstab ; then echo "none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=${vGid},devmode=664 0 0" >>/etc/fstab ; mount -a; fi
[04:51] <pitput> sebsebseb, yes
[04:52] <steven_> Can I have again?
[04:52] <bruenig> is prettier
[04:52] <mimiloon> can anyone help me please? how do i mount partitions automatically without the password?
[04:52] <steven_> I didn't save what I was supposed to do because I thought it would work
[04:52] <bcm75> I play sounds on my laptop since installing Ubuntu
[04:52] <fez> steven_: that's a false assumption
[04:52] <sebsebseb> pitput: this  actsaully helped me as well,  because  I want to put  some stuff into a VM on the other computer, and I had no luck,  since  wasn't like before when it came to setting up the USB, but if I try this hopefuly :)
[04:52] <lstarnes> steven_: try setting all of the options in system > preferences > sound > devices to use pulseaudio
[04:52]  * leaf-sheep propose that the package 'pastebinit' is automatically installed and part of the metapackages in the future Ubuntu releases starting with Karmic for many obvious reasons. :)
[04:53] <sebsebseb> pitput: well I could have just burnt the stuff to CD which I was going to do, but hadn't done yet so...
[04:53] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: There is a file called /etc/fstab which let's you do that.
[04:53] <sebsebseb> pitput: rather not waste another CD when I don't have to, even though got quite a lot
[04:53] <sebsebseb> pitput: so if I can use the USB stick in the vm :)
[04:53] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: thanks for the heads up
[04:53] <pitput> sebsebseb, so the usb option under devices in the VM is still greyed out..
[04:54] <leaf-sheep> pitput: Did you restart?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> pitput: hmm
[04:54] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: Would you like me to guide you through the steps to automatically mount your partitions and/or disk drives?
[04:54] <bcm75> Already tried the pulseaudio thing and still no sound??
[04:54] <pitput> leaf-sheep, you mean log out or restart?
[04:54] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: that would be nice
[04:54] <sebsebseb> leaf-sheep: be clear when you say restart, since they might think you mean the whole of Ubuntu,  rather than for example closing vbox and re opening, or logging out of Ubuntu and back in agian
[04:55] <leaf-sheep> pitput: Did you restart? (Ubuntu)
[04:55] <sebsebseb> leaf-sheep: restart sot he  USB  stuff works in the kernel?
[04:55] <leaf-sheep> sebsebseb: Yes.
[04:55] <sebsebseb> pitput: ok re boot
[04:55] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: The format of this file is file system, mount point, type, options, dump, and pass.
[04:55] <leaf-sheep> sebsebseb: (and fstab).
[04:55] <madison> I'm too lazy to dig up another power cable to set up this box ;/
[04:56] <pitput> okay leaf-sheep, sebsebseb . brb
[04:56] <sebsebseb> leaf-sheep: the page he was using though,  didn't say to re boot hmm
[04:56] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: What partition or disk drive are you mounting?
[04:56] <nour> hello, can anyone tell me how the .forward file for emails works in ubuntu ?
[04:56] <sebsebseb> leaf-sheep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[04:56] <steven_> That did not work either
[04:56] <sebsebseb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[04:57] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Maybe you edited the wrong file. Or there was a typo.
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> sebsebseb: Ah I see. We'll see what happen when he get back. :)
[04:57] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: sda3
[04:57] <steven_> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[04:57] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Since I can't be as much help as I would like to be, also check Google for answers.
[04:58] <nour> help! i need to know how the .forward file works
[04:58] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: So you would open that file in gedit for example and you would create a new line. First, what is the file system?
[04:59] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: Maybe you can follow example of the other automounted partitions?
[04:59] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> nour: Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[05:00] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> nour: Forgive me if there is a typo. I am typing by hand.
[05:00] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: it's ext3
[05:00] <steven_> I guess my sound card or whatever just won't work
[05:01] <leaf-sheep> steven_: What were you doing when you broke the sound?
[05:01] <pitput> sebsebseb, leaf-sheep; It seems to be working!
[05:01] <leaf-sheep> pitput: I know. >:}~
[05:01] <steven_> It never worked to begin with
[05:02] <pitput> leaf-sheep, how did you know?
[05:02] <nour> Ubuntu_Helper_00, thanks, but i already saw the link, i just need to understand how this .forward file is supposed to work, is there a deamon or something that fetches emails and send them to the .forward entries ?
[05:02] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: i tried googling it but didn't understand how to do it because i'm new to linux
[05:02] <leaf-sheep> pitput: For starters, I do use VirtualBox myself.
[05:03] <pitput> leaf-sheep, ohh! I see. Thanks to sebsebseb, I am switching over to virtualbox and I am loving it
[05:03] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: http://epistel.no/fstab
[05:03] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> !fstab
[05:04] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> I need an OP (or someone who can work ubottu)
[05:04] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: thanks for the link
[05:04] <sebsebseb> pitput: and  thanks to leaf-sheep for suggesting the reboot
[05:05] <sebsebseb> pitput: altough I might have thought of that later on
[05:05] <leaf-sheep> steven_: "sudo aptitude install -y pastebinit ; clear ; aptitude search '?installed!?automatic'' | grep alsa | pastebinit"
[05:05] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: For mount point, if you don't already know, you put the folder you want it mounted to. Make sure that this directory is already created and empty.
[05:05] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Please. We both have same model/make. :3
[05:06] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: i'll remember that
[05:07] <sebsebseb> pitput: no problem
[05:07] <steven_> I just entered that and it gave me a >
[05:07] <steven_> Not sure what to do next
[05:07] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Whoops.  A typo.  Cancel it.  Copy and paste exactly --> sudo aptitude install pastebinit ; clear && aptitude search '?installed!?automatic' | grep alsa | pastebinit
[05:08] <steven_> There we go...
[05:09] <steven_> http://pastebin.com/f68d524cc
[05:09] <leaf-sheep> steven_: How did you get Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 AMD64?  Upgrading from older version or clean installation?
[05:10] <steven_> Downloaded, did checksum or whatever, burned, and then installed. *shrugs*
[05:10]  * Ubuntu_Helper_00 always installs fresh.
[05:10] <steven_> Clean
[05:11] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Run "alsamixer" -- Ensure everything is set on high.  If you see blue/gray "MM" -- It mean MUTE.  You want to toggle 'm' to unmute and get Green "00" -- Press ESC to save and quit.
[05:12] <eagle1> hello! Newbie here... I was wondering if anyone could help me to get my Toshiba NB205 wireless working? I already had it enabled in Windows XP...
[05:12] <biovore> eagle1: you know what wireless card it is?
[05:13] <scoates> hi
[05:13] <scoates> for whatever reason, when I connect to 127.0.0.1, it's not connecting FROM 127.0.0.1 but from my default public IP. Can someone point me in the right direction to fix this?
[05:13] <Rabbitbunny> Why would you expect anyting different?
[05:14] <majuk> Can anyone give me an idea why LVM says I have 300gigs free yet 0 extents free? http://dpaste.com/92138/
[05:14] <steven_> k, done
[05:14] <leaf-sheep> steven_: No sounds? :<
[05:14] <biovore> scoates: 127.0.0.1 is you local machine local loopback adapter.. thats what it should do..
[05:14] <eagle1> Hello biovore. It's an Atheros card... I tried to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks/ToshibaNB205
[05:14] <eagle1> but didn't work for me..
[05:15] <leaf-sheep> steven_: sudo alsactl store -- To save the config file.
[05:15] <scoates> biovore: before I did whatever I did today, when I connected to 127.0.0.1, the connections would come from 127.0.0.1, not 64.x.y.z
[05:15] <scoates> for example, I can have mysql rules for user@localhost
[05:15] <steven_> Works now! Thank you!
[05:15] <scoates> now I need user@'64.x.y.z'
[05:15] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Great! >:}~
[05:15] <scoates> I want to make it go back to 127.0.0.1
[05:16] <leaf-sheep> steven_: I gladly accept PayPal too. >_>
[05:16] <steven_> One problem...need to have it on 75-80% volume to reasonably hear it though
[05:16] <xylox> scoates, it also depends on the app you are using, some have bind options
[05:16] <steven_> 80% volume == 50% windows volume
[05:16] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Well -- Use alsamixer to check if everything is still on high.  Also, the sounds from all laptops are often known to be low.
[05:17] <steven_> True.  Shoddy speakers and all
[05:18] <mimiloon> Ubuntu_Helper_00: thanks for your help
[05:18] <leaf-sheep> steven_: I think you still mistyped earlier when they gave you the command to add "sound-dell"
[05:18] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> mimiloon: You are very much welcome. So it is working fine for you know?
[05:18] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Who was it?  I'm scrolling up.
[05:18] <Rabbitbunny> steven_: Right Click on the speaker icon in your tray. Select "Volume Control", Adjust the sliders until you can hear it.
[05:18] <steven_> Zezoz tried to make me download sex.exe
[05:19] <steven_> apparently my system did not download it though
[05:19] <xylox> scoates, also when you use user@localhost you are covering both cases 127.0.0.1 and your public ip
[05:19] <leaf-sheep> steven_: zezoz2005?
[05:19] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: You don't want to download that. And thankfully, Ubuntu does not run those types of files. Only Windows systems can. Ubuntu can with a program called wine, though.
[05:20] <scoates> xylox: no. that's not how it works.
[05:20] <scoates> example of what I mean: http://paste.roguecoders.com/p/6115f0ac03a49e2d2cfdeba2b6118da7.html
[05:20] <leaf-sheep> Ubuntu_Helper_00: Can I have the link you have earlier when you tried to help steven_ out with audio issue? Please? Mmkay.  Thx.
[05:20]  * Ubuntu_Helper_00 scrolls
[05:20] <scoates> (this is on a box where the routing is working properly)
[05:20] <steven_> yes, that guy
[05:20] <steven_> He tried to get me to download clip sex.exe
[05:20] <Rabbitbunny> That's not cool.
[05:21] <steven_> I do have wine...
[05:21] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Don't run it :P
[05:21] <steven_> I set autoaccept to no...
[05:21] <steven_> *Runs it*
[05:21] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> leaf-sheep: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=314383 ?
[05:21] <Hansard> Has anyone ever experienced screen tearing when playing video, and how to fix it?
[05:21] <leaf-sheep> steven_: The chance is that it's a virus.  If not, it's in somewhat in dangerous malware zone. :)
[05:21] <steven_> Not going to run it. I know that much about exe files. It never downloaded anyways... It tried and failed
[05:22] <Chegger> exe files scare me :(
[05:22]  * Ubuntu_Helper_00 shudders
[05:22] <disappearedng> Any good audio software to split an mp3 into multiple smaller files (preferably with a gui cause I don't know where the exact timing is )
[05:23] <steven_> Please ban that guy
[05:23] <Guest18045> Anyone know if there's a program that works like Windows 7 short cut "Win+Right or Left arrow"??
[05:23] <CorpX> how can i use wget to get everything in a directory
[05:23] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> disappearedng: Audacity can do that.
[05:23] <CorpX> like a wildcard
[05:23] <disappearedng> ok
[05:23] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> Guest18045: What do those shortcuts do?
[05:24] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> CorpX: If it is HTTP, I don't believe you can.
[05:24] <CorpX> its ftp
[05:24] <CorpX> i want to grab everything in a directory and its sub directories
[05:24] <scoates> http://paste.roguecoders.com/p/c818ac5b21d23cf3ac50f3e9e71c25fd.html <-- localhost routing is working properly on adnagaporp, but not properly on iconoclast. If anyone has any insight on how to fix this, please help.
[05:24] <Guest18045> Ubuntu_Helper_00, Move Windows screen to right or left ?
[05:24] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Join #ubuntu-ops and express the situation.
[05:24] <kraut> moin
[05:25] <Guest18045> Ubuntu_Helper_00, Do you know where i can check how many ram i have inside my laptop ?
[05:25] <CorpX> -r
[05:25] <CorpX> ah
[05:25] <frogzoo> wierd - my 3G modem only works in one usb port...
[05:25] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> CorpX: http://www.editcorp.com/Personal/Lars_Appel/wget/wget_3.html#SEC13
[05:25] <Guest18045> Ubuntu_Helper_00, I wanta to do VB programs but not sure if its possible unless i do a VM>XP>VB2008
[05:25] <eagle1> I was wondering if anyone could help me to get my Toshiba NB205 wireless working? Forums?
[05:25] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> Guest18045: You can run the command 'free -m' in Ubuntu.
[05:26] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Also, I'm deaf. I honestly have no need for sounds yet I helped you out. :)
[05:26] <CorpX> thnx
[05:26] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> Guest18045: http://vb.wikia.com/wiki/Running_Visual_Basic_under_Ubuntu_Linux
[05:27] <steven_> Thank you for your help
[05:27] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Something that will interest you -- You might want that one bookmarked -- http://tinyurl.com/n7lyy2
[05:27] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/n7lyy2 expands to http://jesperdj.pbworks.com/Ubuntu-on-the-Dell-XPS-M1530
[05:27] <drygrain> is there a folder full of default system noises in 9.04? i need a path to a generic system beep or two
[05:27] <steven_> Oh? What is that?
[05:27] <steven_> Kinda afraid to look at anything now given earlier. No offense...
[05:27] <Guest18045> Ubuntu_Helper_00, is it stable?
[05:28] <Canadian_Trenche> drygrain you could just locate *.wav
[05:28] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Don't worry about it.  The chance of people offering to send files over IRC are really low.
[05:28] <djbpython> really stupid question: how do i find out which version of ubuntu i am using
[05:28] <sub[t]rnl> drygrain: /usr/share/sounds/
[05:28] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> Guest18045: There might be some problems using WINE, so maybe.
[05:28] <leaf-sheep> steven_: It's one of the your common garden variety trolls.  No big deal. Ignore them. :)
[05:28] <djbpython> more importantly if its 32 or 64 bit
[05:28] <drygrain> thank you sub[t]rnl  and Canadian_Trenche
[05:28] <willca> drygrain | /usr/share/sounds
[05:28] <willca> maybe
[05:28] <sub[t]rnl> djbpython: lsb_release -r
[05:28] <dm-madman> djbpython: for that all you need is uname -m
[05:29] <steven_> May they burn in hellfire for all eternity.  God Bless.  Yeah, I'll ignore them.  Steven <--- little ball of hate :)
[05:29] <Canadian_Trenche> ok anyone out there know a replacement for unetbootin for linux or works in wine on ubuntu 9.10 i need to make a boot usb for my netbook
[05:30] <leaf-sheep> Canadian_Trenche: USB Startup Disk Creator
[05:30] <Canadian_Trenche> oh >.> well that makes sense >.> >.> thanks leaf-sheep i forgot about that
[05:31] <djbpython> just out of curiosity, if I wanted to install mysql manually on 9.04 AMD64 which package would I want from http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.1.html#downloads
[05:32] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> djbpython: By manually, do you mean by compiling from source?
[05:33] <djbpython> i mean extracting it from one of the packages available for download
[05:33] <djbpython> i am new to linux as a whole
[05:33] <djbpython> i mean instead of using apt-get
[05:33] <kelletim> it looks like your only option is the tarballs
[05:33] <kelletim> there is no "deb" there
[05:33] <Amaranth> zezoz2005: Can I PM you?
[05:33] <leaf-sheep> Canadian_Trenche: If that does not work for you, you always can zcat boot.img.gz to the USB -- Works best out of all in my opinion. ;)
[05:34] <Canadian_Trenche> djbpython you could download the debian package or you could download the tarball but why wouldnt you just install it using apt-get
[05:34] <fstab1> anyone know how to update fstab in terminal to auto update UUID for my swap?
[05:34] <djbpython> just a question I'm trying to learn what people did before apt-get
[05:34] <Canadian_Trenche> hrmmmmmmmm trying out the usb boot right now leaf-sheep
[05:34] <Canadian_Trenche> oh alright yeah look at the mysql website for the tarball
[05:35] <kelletim> fstab1: what? why do you want to do that?
[05:35] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> fstab1: vol_id --uuid
[05:35] <madison> the ubuntu install never works on optiplex 755's :(
[05:35] <steven_> How do I search my Filesystem in command line for a file? Just want to make sure something does not exist
[05:36] <Amaranth> steven_: find / -name foo
[05:36] <madison> find -name "fileyouwannafind"
[05:36] <fstab1> tanks
[05:36] <kelletim> djbpython: it is very painful to keep up with security problems if you do things like this
[05:36] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> steven_: Or you can updatedb, (that takes a while) but then after anytime, you can run 'locate file.file'
[05:36] <Canadian_Trenche> its rather annoying djbpython its annoying because you have to worry about dependencies and versions and tracking them down and >_< its annoying
[05:37]  * Canadian_Trenche has to start editing what he says >.>
[05:37] <steven_> keep getting permission denied on the foo
[05:37] <kelletim> i've grown to despise using software outside the distro
[05:38] <kelletim> developers should target a distribution, not a version of apache, or python, or mysql
[05:38] <Amaranth> leaf-sheep: PM?
[05:40] <leaf-sheep> Amaranth: Sure...?
[05:40] <leaf-sheep> Amaranth: I didn't get anything.
[05:40] <roccity_> is there any updated tutorials on making usplash images for 9.04?
[05:40] <roccity_> I have tried to follw the wiki in ubuntu community docs but no luck
[05:40] <renegadechic> hi, i am trying to download build-essential in order to then install tarballs but cant seem to find it anywhere on synaptic
[05:41] <roccity_> renegadechic: did you try sudo apt-get update and then look for build-essential/
[05:41] <renegadechic> no, ill give it a go though
[05:41] <disappearedng> Hey in audacity is there a way to normalize the volume
[05:42] <Abod> hello, i need support in spanish, anyobdy can help me .. ??
[05:42] <legend2440> !es
[05:43] <disappearedng> join #ubuntu-es
[05:43] <Abod> thx ... :D
[05:43] <djbpython> what can i do so i don't have to preface every command with sudo?
[05:43] <legend2440> djbpython: sudo -i
[05:43] <sub[t]rnl> steven_: you can redirect stderr using "2>&-" ex. find / -name blah 2>&-
[05:45] <moneky> when i boot into ubuntu my mouse will work for the initial loading but afterwards will cut off .. i use a steelseries ikari .. anyone have any advice?
[05:45] <kris_> Hi. Is there a channel for Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[05:46] <leaf-sheep> kris_: This will do. There also are #ubuntu-mobile
[05:46] <kris_> leaf-sheep: Thank you.
[05:46] <leaf-sheep> kris_: Slow traffic. You might want to try here.  Maybe we can help you. :)
[05:46] <kelletim> moneky: try turning gpm off?
[05:46] <Canadian_Trenche> kris suggestion for netbook's dont install netbook remix unless have the small solid state drive otherwise just go with the full distro
[05:47] <kris_> leaf-sheep: No specific questions; just looking for general opinions.
[05:47] <kris_> Canadian_Trenche: I have a 16GB SSD.
[05:47] <Canadian_Trenche> still
[05:47] <Canadian_Trenche> its taking up like less then 2 by default id still go with full
[05:47] <kris_> Canadian_Trenche: Are there drawbacks to UNR?
[05:48] <Canadian_Trenche> less libraries longer overall downloads because you dont have as many dependencies by default
[05:48] <leaf-sheep> It's all mostly about designs and customization to make things nice and ease.  Easier access to data and softwares and such.
[05:49] <leaf-sheep> UNR would be great for your kids and such. :)
[05:49] <bjartewe> hi, how do I write and save to a file in terminal? (right now, I want to change key board language settings)
[05:49] <leaf-sheep> bjartewe: nano /path/to/file
[05:50] <Canadian_Trenche> bjartewe use vi or vim or nano to open the files vi is installed by default
[05:50] <Canadian_Trenche> >.>
[05:50] <kris_> Ah. What about performance differences b/w UNR and full? I'm reading a lot of stuff about "optimization" here. Is that empty marketing?
[05:50] <leaf-sheep> kris_: You're going with Gnome, right?
[05:50] <kris_> Well, I'd prefer KDE ... :blush:
[05:50] <Canadian_Trenche> kris you can optimize the full version as much as you can if not more then UNR
[05:51] <leaf-sheep> Well, Gnome or KDE... Then you're not really going for "optimization" :)
[05:51] <kris_> leaf-sheep: I see your point.
[05:51] <kelletim> nothing wrong with KDE
[05:51]  * kris_ pounds fists with kelletim.
[05:51] <kelletim> it's a little too much fiddling for me, but, whatever you like
[05:51] <bjartewe> thanks leaf and trenche:)
[05:51] <leaf-sheep> kris_: http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-3/
[05:52] <kris_> Dell Mini 10 ... that's the one!
[05:52] <kelletim> what's optimization? using a text console?
[05:52] <Canadian_Trenche> how is it running for you
[05:52] <Canadian_Trenche> yeah
[05:52] <Canadian_Trenche> No use x
[05:52] <Canadian_Trenche> >_< x is optimization
[05:52] <LogicFan> hi, i am confused about java and java browser plugins.  I currently have ubuntu's openjdk JRE and Sun's java6 pkg.  I also have the icedtea browser plugin but not sun's java plugin.  i am have difficulty reliably running java applets in firefox.  which java packages and browser plugin does ubuntu recommend?
[05:53] <leaf-sheep> kris_: You're using Dell Mini 10?  Lol.
[05:53] <LogicFan> i install ubuntu-restricted-packages, so I think that's how i ended up with sun's java?
[05:53] <kris_> leaf-sheep: Oh no. Is that bad?
[05:53] <kelletim> LogicFan: you don't need IcedTea, I think, just Sun's jre
[05:53] <kelletim> that will give you the plugin and friends
[05:53] <LogicFan> well there is sun-java6-plugin in addition to the sun java jre pkgs
[05:54] <kelletim> I've had the best results using Sun's jre and not all that other crap
[05:54] <LogicFan> just installing sun's jre won't provide the browser plugin
[05:54] <leaf-sheep> kris_: Nothing is ever bad. Just that Dell Mini 10 have weakest graphic cards -- Making it difficult to use in linux for 2D/3D etc.
[05:54] <djbpython> now how do i get out of sudo -i? i can't even find documentation for sudo -i
[05:54] <leaf-sheep> djbpython: exit.
[05:54] <djbpython> ha
[05:55] <kris_> leaf-sheep: Not planning on doing anything more than productivity. I have my laptop for the big stuff.
[05:55] <ComaPink> HUGE PROBLEM!
[05:55] <ComaPink> Update Manager installed all sorts of Mozilla updates earlier, and this is the first time I've gone to use Mozilla again - and it refuses to work.
[05:55] <ComaPink> "Assertion Failed"
[05:55] <ComaPink> What happened!?
[05:55] <kris_> !paste | ComaPink
[05:55] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[05:55] <sub[t]rnl> djbpython: the -i option is documented in the sudo man page
[05:56] <kris_> Meh. Kneejerk reaction. My bad, ComaPink. ;-)
[05:56] <ComaPink> Eh, sorry.
[05:56] <bjartewe> hmm..it would not let me replace teh default line (key board settngs)
[05:56] <bjartewe> *the
[05:57] <Canadian_Trenche> bjartewe use sudo nano then the file
[05:57] <kris_> ComaPink: I just had something like that happen to me. I think it has to do with the google search engine box. Restarting again seemed to work.
[05:57] <leaf-sheep> bjartewe: Use sudo.
[05:57] <bjartewe> ah, forgot sudo, thanks again:)
[05:58] <ComaPink> Mmm, working again now. I guess it just wanted to be restarted six times. o.o;
[05:59] <djbpython> so if anyone can just type in sudo -i and be root, whats the point of sudo?
[05:59] <Hansard> lol I got wow working on ubuntu with wine
[05:59] <coz_> anyone know how to install php-gtk on 9.04 and have it functional?
[06:01] <leaf-sheep> djbpython: You typed in password to use root administration.
[06:01] <leaf-sheep> djbpython: Great idea to use sudo -i if you installed Ubuntu freshly and want to install and configuration without having to use sudo repeatedly.
[06:02] <bjartewe> ugh..what are all the random As and Bs that pop up during file edit in terminal?
[06:02] <Hansard> 6fps in dalaran sigh... ok might go back to windows dual boot
[06:02]  * bjartewe is very new to Linux
[06:02] <DasEi> bjartewe: sticky keyboard ?
[06:04] <Dulak> hansard: at least you stay connected?
[06:04] <Hansard> Dulak: yes. No connection issues.
[06:05] <Hansard> running it from the windows partition, would it speed up much by copying it to the ext4 partition?
[06:05] <Hansard> I mean more than 10fps faster?
[06:05] <zruty> Boot tin Live USB, Nautilus does not open the local HD: Unable to mount Local Disk? mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /media/LocalDisk. What's up with that?
[06:06] <Hansard> I'm not sure how much of an effect ext4 has on the linux kernel compared with ntfs
[06:07] <coz_> anyone about php-gtk on ubuntu?
[06:08] <zykotic-k9> while using vi accidentally saved a ":wq" into the /etc/sudoers file, when when I try to run anything sudo (including "sudo shutdown -r now") I get a "sudoers file: syntax error, line X" -- anyone have a suggestion to restart other then simply holding the button?
[06:10] <kermit> zykotic-k9: restarting isnt going to fix your sudoers file anyway
[06:10] <mgmuscari> does anybody here know what the gnome equivalent of "ksplash" is?
[06:10] <zykotic-k9> kermit single user mode will :)
[06:10] <mgmuscari> i can't figure out how to theme my login/logout splash screens with compiz fusion because i don't know the window title to match against...
[06:10] <bjartewe> ok, random letters gone, but how do I save and close the file after modification?
[06:10] <losher> zykotic-k9: you probably won't be able to sudo again until you fix this. Boot into the recovery console and fix /etc/sudoers.
[06:11] <kermit> zykotic-k9: i think ctrl-alt-del on a console (hit cntrl-alt-f1 to get to a console) should get it rebooted
[06:11] <zykotic-k9> lol - yup that's the plan - gotta have to just cut the power i guess :(
[06:11] <zykotic-k9> thanks kermit - that worked!!!
[06:12] <kermit> funny the GUI requires a PW but the console doesnt heh
[06:12] <amazin> zykotic-k9: try magic sysrq, hold alt and print and slowly type R E I S U B
[06:12] <amazin> oh 2late :-)
[06:13] <zykotic-k9> amazin, sorry man rebooting now.  Cool suggestion BTW!
[06:14] <lab4> is there anyway to add a resoultion to the ati catalyst control panel?
[06:16] <zykotic-k9> FYI - booted into recovery mode, used vi to remove the ":w!" rebooted - sudo working again!  Thanks for the quick suggestions kermit amazin
[06:16] <zruty> Boot in Live USB, Nautilus does not open the local HD: Unable to mount Local Disk? What's up with that?
[06:16] <nando> Ha
[06:17] <nando> anyone on their ps3 as we speak?
[06:17] <nando> I know I am!!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <nando> bahahahahahahah
[06:17] <dean> join edubuntu
[06:17] <nando> Im the king of the worlddddddd
[06:17] <zezoz2005> hi   welcoom  all
[06:17] <opengyan> i have ubuntu 8.10 + connecting to nokia E51 to use as Usb modem
[06:18] <opengyan> I could do wvdial for gprs...
[06:18] <djbpython> how do i set file associations, eg so i don't have to invoke a python script like "python myscript.py" instead just typing the file name
[06:18] <opengyan> and could connect to internet...
[06:18] <opengyan> however now i would like to use "WiFi" on the phone for the same purpose
[06:19] <dean> can anybody here help me with gcompris admin in edubuntu?
[06:22] <steven_> Where can I get Direct 3D for wine???
[06:22] <dean> can anybody help with gcompris and edubuntu?
[06:25] <DK_CE> dean: what is the problem with gcompris?
[06:26] <dean> looking for help with edubuntu and gcompris
[06:26] <notbenh> any one know if there is a way to shove an existing process in to a screen session?
[06:26] <DK_CE> yes, but what is the problem?
[06:26] <notbenh> ie I started something that I wanted to do in screen in the wrong term, thus not in screen
[06:26] <madison> is there anything you can do when you boot from cd to install, and you get the desktop background but no mouse cursor and nothing comes up to start the install? (after choosing "install ubuntu" of course)
[06:27] <rww> notbenh: not that I've ever found, no :(
[06:27] <steven_> Where can I get Direct 3D for wine???
[06:27] <notbenh> rww: ya me either, though figured I would ask anyway
[06:28] <DK_CE> steven_: that would depend on your video card/chipset
[06:29] <lia> etr
[06:29] <lia> fyb r
[06:29] <lia> ghtreu
[06:29] <lia> yturd6u
[06:29] <lia> jrrrrrrr76
[06:30] <Al1_> hi i need some help here, a friend of mine is using vista and it does what it does best now i need to fix it, shes not very computer literate though and im pretty sure if i permanently installed ubuntu on her computer she wouldnt know what to do so i need to make a compromise. I think that one of the main errors on the computer is that she installed too many anti-virus softwares and they attacked each other. the computer still ru
[06:30] <rww> !windows | Al1_
[06:30] <rww> Al1_: also, your message cut off at "the computer still ru".
[06:30] <madison> Al1_: install ubuntu - problem solved
[06:30] <oz3> Ali get mint7
[06:31] <Al1_> well
[06:31] <rww> lia: Something we can help you with?
[06:31] <gpghelp> Anyone know how to require GPG to ask for a password before encryption?
[06:31] <Al1_> i was saying that i was trying to fix it by running a live cd of 9.04
[06:31] <steven_> Dell XPS M1530
[06:31] <steven_> nVidia card
[06:31] <lia> hello
[06:31] <gpghelp> Right now if I encrypt to a public key, it will do so without asking the password of my private key.
[06:31] <saiki> how do you update GRUB to also include windows partions?
[06:31] <rww> gpghelp: Encryption doesn't require any passphrases, because it doesn't use your private key. If you told it to encrypt and sign, it would ask for it.
[06:32] <gpghelp> Ah gotcha. Thanks!
[06:32] <rww> gpghelp: (well, assuming you didn't have passphrase caching turned on, but that's a whole 'nother thing ;)
[06:32] <gpghelp> rww: thanks for the help
[06:32] <Indica> hey guys if i type weird its honestly because i'm drunk, and im actually looking for a type of program that would be slightly considered illegal, but i'm using it for it's original purpose
[06:32] <DK_CE> then just make sure you install the correct driver for nVidia car, and then check spesific apllication/game you want to run 3D
[06:32] <Indica> i'm looking for a torrenting program where i can connect directly to a torrent seeded off of my home networked PC.
[06:33] <Indica> i understand i can network, but the type of file won't transfer quickly without an external harddrive.
[06:33] <kermit> Indica: bt wont make it go faster
[06:33] <Indica> i want to seed it and transfer it. it's being seeded from my main desktop, and i want to make it as a torrent file. which it is, but i need a second program to do it.
[06:34] <Indica> well...i dont have a burner or anything.
[06:34] <Indica> i'm old school
[06:34] <Indica> i have 2001 dells . 1 with windows and 1 with linux.
[06:34] <Indica> wait nvm i found a way
[06:34] <Hansard> torrenting the file won't increase your network bandwidth
[06:34] <Indica> sorry bout that.
[06:34] <Indica> yeah i found a 2gb flash drive, and i'm putting the folder into a .rar, and shrinking it.
[06:35] <madison> 2001 dells, 1 with windows and 1 with linux
[06:35] <Indica> apologies. i know torrenting isn't a common subject in here, but i needed to find out which program to use, and i found it :D
[06:35] <madison> just makes me wonder what is on the other 1999
[06:35] <saiki> how do you update GRUB to also include windows partions?  (I have vista installed but grub doesn't see it
[06:36] <leaf-sheep> What the earth was he talking about? Torrent is in no way illegal. :)
[06:36] <djyoung4> my function f4 to connect to an external monitor is working all my other functions are working.  i cant find anything on the bugs list.  i have 9.04 and an hp dv4t
[06:36] <DK_CE> steven_: do you run 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:36] <djyoung4> 64 bit
[06:36] <steven_> 64 bit
[06:38] <DK_CE> then try insalling: nvidia-glx-ia32
[06:38] <DK_CE> it might help
[06:38] <saiki> how do you update GRUB to also include windows partions?  (I have vista installed but grub doesn't see it, and using the guided one didn't work)
[06:38] <madison> deja vu
[06:38] <madison> i could've sworn i saw that question like 3 minutes ago
[06:39] <leaf-sheep> !info nvidia-glx-ia32
[06:39] <Hansard> saiki: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398087
[06:40] <steven_> Apparently I need Direct 3D and Direct X
[06:40] <namzezam> my luvcview works but kdenlive on record video4linux say not connect: capture parms:  -f oss -i /dev/dsp -f video4linux2 -s 320x240 -r 15 -i /dev/video0
[06:40] <namzezam> any help?
[06:40] <zruty> well I fixed it, and myself.... I think...
[06:40] <steven_> I also apparently need Microsoft.NET Framework to get Direct X to work, but the framework won't install properly for some reason through wine
[06:40] <saiki> Hansard, thx, seems i made one stupid mistake, anyway, trying again, lata
[06:42] <zruty> What's this leyring thing and how do I get rid of it?
[06:42] <zruty> keyring
[06:42] <zruty> !keyring
[06:42] <DK_CE> steven_: you could try debian package: http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-glx-ia32
[06:42] <DK_CE> steven_: hopefully work but not sure
[06:43] <steven_> Trying to get Microsoft.NET Framework installed. It doesn't want to install through wine for some reason heh
[06:44] <DK_CE> steven_: use winetricks
[06:44] <leaf-sheep> steven_: Avoid Wine. :)
[06:44] <steven_> lol
[06:45] <DK_CE> http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
[06:47] <martin_henry> I'm trying to figure out what a script is doing and it's referring to a command by this command: ".//bin_unix/linux_64_client" what is ".//" ?
[06:47] <zruty> Almost. Spoke too soon.... Live USB, how cna I fix "unable to mount location" error when trying to mount itself?
[06:47] <steven_> How do I implement that script though? I've no idea
[06:47] <madison> :(
[06:47] <madison> I give up ubuntu, you are not playing fairly
[06:47] <examancer> in 9.04 if I set up a samba share through nautilus by right clicking on a folder and using "sharing options" GUI it does not store these shares in smb.conf... any idea where they are storedA
[06:47] <examancer> ?
[06:48] <bjartewe> how do I change to another keyboard set (easy way)?
[06:48] <martin_henry> examancer, u look in home/.samba?
[06:48] <examancer> martin_henry: ~/.samba doesn't exist :-(
[06:48] <bjartewe> I have tried via terminal, but I am not as skilled in vi/emacs yet, so I just mess up:/
[06:49] <martin_henry> bjartewe, go to System menu, then Preferences then Keyboard
[06:49] <martin_henry> examancer sorry :( true
[06:50] <bjartewe> yes, and then?
[06:50] <examancer> i might just have to start over and go the smb.conf way... but i'm not sure i even know how to make samba ignore those nautilus shares
[06:50] <martin_henry> then go to Layout tab
[06:50] <martin_henry> and change your layout
[06:51] <madison> would it be possible that my wireless cards are not functioning properly because I have two installed and ubuntu doesn't like that?
[06:51] <madison> I'm not seeing any networks even though I know I'm in range of about 20
[06:51] <madison> (since I'm on one right now on this computer sitting less than 3 inches from the other install)
[06:52] <bjartewe> hmm..I did that, and it does not seem to work with special characters (I am Norwegian)
[06:53] <DK_CE> steven_: open terminal and wget http://www.kegel.com/wine/winetricks
[06:53] <DK_CE> steven_: chmod +x winetricks
[06:54] <DK_CE> steven_: ./winetricks
[06:54] <Zylstra555> One line question: Best audio program for Linux?    I enjoy Rhythm Box, but I have heard that there are better ones.
[06:54] <djyoung4> i cant get an external monitor to work using an hdmi out
[06:54] <djyoung4> any ideas
[06:54] <steven_> Should I install all of them?
[06:56] <xmnt_> steven_, what are you trying to run w/ .net
[06:56] <DK_CE> steven_: just install Microsoft.NET Framework
[06:56] <steven_> Conquer Online
[06:57] <steven_> Lame! I need a Windows license! I lost mine
[06:57] <bjartewe> ah, it works! I finally figured that I had to move the preferred setting to the top of the list:)
[06:57] <xmnt_> why not just use virtualbox .. not that wine isn't great an all .. but most stuff only partially works or works for a while then crashes randomly
[06:57] <madison> I even just removed one of the network cards and still see no networks :(
[06:57] <press> buenos dias
[06:58] <dkT_> Hi, I keep on getting the error http://pastebin.com/d9efcef9. But I've run this command sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start configname?
[06:58] <DK_CE> steven_: not sure which one you want, dotnet11 or dotnet20
[06:59] <djyoung4> anybody know how to get an hdmi out working to use with an external monitor
[07:00] <DK_CE> steven_: it would still install even if you do not have it with you
[07:01] <n8tuser> dkT_ -> usually those scripts at /etc/init.d/  only has options for start of stop not a configname as another option
[07:01] <unperson> How do I get my machine to spoof a different MAC address on eth0 in Jaunty?
[07:03] <cryptide> how would i take a diff file and use patch to create those files even though none of those files/directories exist?
[07:03] <kermit> unperson: ifconfig eth0 hw ether <mac>
[07:03] <dm-madman> patch won't make directories afaik cryptide
[07:03] <dm-madman> it'll make files, though
[07:03] <cryptide> dm-madman: any suggestions todo what i want?
[07:04] <dm-madman> cryptide: not really, i only read the last line :p
[07:04] <unperson> kermit, Well, that sounds easy enough.  Am I correct in thinking there's no way to do it through the network manager GUI?
[07:04] <dm-madman> cryptide: too lazy to read up lol
[07:04] <kermit> unperson: i dunno, i kinda doubt it though
[07:04] <cryptide> dm-madman: that is all i said
[07:04] <kermit> unperson: its not something many ppl would want to do
[07:05] <cryptide> i guess patch doesnt work like extracting a tar :(
[07:05] <unperson> kermit, I'm guessing I have to bring down the interface to try it.
[07:05] <dm-madman> cryptide: well i suppose i'd trun it into a shell script then, but add some stuff for the dirs
[07:05] <dkT_> n8tuser: So, I shall just run sudo /etc/init.d/openvpn start
[07:05] <unperson> unperson, Probably true.  I've certainly never had a need in all the years I've run Linux (before now).
[07:05] <kermit> unperson: maybe? try.. you might be able to use your old and new macs by using eth0:0 for the spoof
[07:05] <djyoung4> my function to get an external monitor connected isn't working any ideas
[07:05] <n8tuser> dkT_ -> yes
[07:05] <steven_> winetricks does not have Direct 3d anyways
[07:06] <steven_> I need that the most
[07:06] <cryptide> dm-madman: diff file isn't to big... i'll just copy and paste
[07:06] <DasEi> !dualhead |diyoung4
[07:06] <dm-madman> cryptide: like take the diff and basically put #!/bin/bash\nsome commands\ncat <<EOF\n at the top
[07:06] <dm-madman> cryptide: and an EOF at the bottom
[07:06] <unperson> kermit, I think I'll try bringing it down.  I don't want to complicate things any more than necessary.  I'm going to go give this a try.
[07:06] <n8tuser> unperson -> also there is the more advanced command  ip to set all kinds of network parameters from link layer to tcp
[07:06] <dm-madman> cryptide: then you could just ./thefile | patch
[07:07] <dm-madman> cryptide: or make the directories and then run the patch
[07:07] <cryptide> dm-madman: i'll try that
[07:10] <tasslehoff> Any wine experts here? I have copied over a missing dll, but how do I make my wine and applications find it?
[07:14] <dm-madman> tasslehoff: you can add overrides in winecfg if it doesn't find it automatically
[07:14] <tasslehoff> dm-madman: thanks
[07:14] <dm-madman> tasslehoff: it's really only necessary if your dll is missing from wine
[07:15] <dm-madman> tasslehoff: or, rather the opposite
[07:15] <dm-madman> tasslehoff: like if it is a dll that wine also includes, but you want to use the MS version
[07:17] <helloyo> hey guys, i'm trying to execute a script off of a samba share, but i get "permission denied". any idea?
[07:17] <djyoung4> thanks ubottu
[07:18] <dm-madman> helloyo: bad permissions, you need some additional options in fstab
[07:18] <dm-madman> helloyo: look at the manpage, but the options are like umask,dmask, and/or fmask
[07:18] <helloyo> dm-madman: i have x permissions on the file, and i have mounted with the exec option
[07:19] <steven_> It seems Virtualbox will not run anything
[07:20] <viviane> hello
[07:22] <dm-madman> helloyo: i don't recall exactly, i don't use smb or windows, but last time i tried i had to do something with those *mask options
[07:22] <helloyo> dm-madman: fair enough, i'll have a look. thanks
[07:25] <mandiri> hgjkgh
[07:25] <DK_CE> steven: not sure why do you need to install direct 3d through wine
[07:26] <dmead> hey channel
[07:27] <ionut_> Hey guys! I have a qustion about RAID1 vs RAID0 in Ubuntu. I have two Hitachi 500 GB SATA II drives. In RAID0 the the READ speed is 173 MB/s and WRITE performance is 156 MB/s; in RAID1 READ and WRITE performance is about the same : 80 MB/s
[07:27] <dmead> ive got a toshiba satilite laptop with latest ubuntu
[07:27] <zruty> good, I like ubuntut
[07:27] <dmead> and i'm having trouble finding either the regular toshiba driver or the omnibook module built for jaunty
[07:27] <kwork> ionut_,  so whats the question
[07:27] <dmead> does anyone have this working?
[07:27] <ionut_> I tested the speeds with dd; I thought the READ performance should pretty much be the same with RAID0 and RAID1
[07:28] <kermit> ionut_: only if raid0 is striped
[07:29] <ionut_> kermit can you gice a little more details? I thought RAID0 meant stripping...
[07:30] <ionut_> are there other types of RAID0?
[07:30] <kwork> ionut_,  raid 0 is a raid type
[07:31] <kwork> ionut_,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels
[07:31] <Boohbah> can somebody recommend an NES emulator for karmic? i tried fceultra but it doesn't appear to be in the repos
[07:31] <dmead1> hey channel
[07:31] <dmead1> does anyone run ubuntu on a toshiba laptop?
[07:31] <Indian`> nice thank you for the raid info
[07:31] <ionut_> kwork I don't understand what kermit means by raid0 is stripped. AFAIK RAID0=stripping and RAID1=mirroring
[07:32] <Indian`> dmead1 I depends on the config
[07:32] <ejv> Boohbah: compile it yourself
[07:32] <dmead> Indian`, yea?
[07:32] <kwork> ionut_,  you are correct
[07:32] <ionut_> so what do you make of "only if raid0 is striped"?
[07:32] <Indian`> dmead:  what is your lap config or what is not working in it
[07:32] <dmead> Indian`, i can't find any newer omnibook modules
[07:32] <kwork> no idea, some wild morning talk, lack of caffein
[07:32] <Indian`> wihen you booth ubuntu
[07:32] <dmead> i've got a newer satilite
[07:33] <dmead> my bios isnt supported by toshiba_acpi
[07:33] <Indian`> dmead:  nice hope you love ubuntu on it :)
[07:33] <Boohbah> ejv: yeah that's looking to be the way to go... why can't it be in the repos?
[07:33] <drseung> hey channel anyone manage to get dmraid to recognize sil3114 on jaunty server?
[07:33] <drseung> as a single device
[07:33] <ejv> Boohbah: it's definitely not a priority, if you feel passionate about it, submit your own precompiled binaries to the community; im sure others will appreciate it.
[07:33] <zruty> I want to be able to mount the live USB drive rw for the user ubuntu. How to do that?
[07:34] <meepopuri> hi this ram
[07:34] <indus> dmead: hi are you having a sound problem?
[07:34] <meepopuri> yes
[07:34] <dmead> indus, no acpi
[07:34] <indus> dmead: yes i know your problem
[07:34] <dmead> do you know how to fix it?
[07:34] <indus> dmead: did u download the latest bios?
[07:34] <gamerx> hi, how do i install the command line version of 9.04?
[07:35] <Boohbah> ejv: ok, i'll do that, thanks
[07:35] <dmead> no
[07:35] <indus> gamerx: whats a command line version
[07:35] <drseung> gamerx ... get the server
[07:35] <drseung> cd
[07:35] <indus> dmead: toshiba have a bios version which fixes this issue i think
[07:35] <meepopuri> i have micro phone pbl
[07:35] <gamerx> yeah, just wondering if i can do it with the desktop version somehow?
[07:35] <ejv> Boohbah: launchpad is a good resource to learn about how to go about doing that ;)
[07:35]  * ejv facepalms
[07:36] <indus> gamerx: i could not understand the question
[07:36] <dmead> indus oh yea?
[07:36] <Boohbah> ejv: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fabricesp/+archive/experimental
[07:36] <Boohbah> ejv: i see someone had the same idea
[07:36] <gamerx> dont worry
[07:36] <indus> dmead: teh acpi problem caused sound to not work on toshiba laptops
[07:36] <gamerx> whos indus?
[07:36] <gamerx> rofl
[07:36] <gamerx> he neds learning :0
[07:36] <Boohbah> gamerx: i've seen indus around here more than you
[07:37] <ejv> Boohbah: always be careful, make sure you trust the source, but that's always great when someone has done the work for you
[07:37] <dmead> indus my problem is not sound, but i'll try a bios update anyway
[07:38] <indus> dmead: which version of ubuntu are you having
[07:39] <indus> dmead: check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882623
[07:40] <jetscreamer> bios update for sound? omg
[07:40] <jetscreamer> oh. i'm here.
[07:40] <indus> dmead: but what is the problem you are facing?
[07:40] <gamerx> boobah, i know, i was just saying....
[07:41] <dmead> indus i cant use acpi
[07:41] <jetscreamer> latest bios is always a good idea imo, but that's just me
[07:41] <gamerx> also, the verdicct is i need the server version, and theres no commands or any operators i can pass at the setup screen of the desktop one?
[07:42] <indus> dmead: certain laptops of toshiba produced sound on turning acpi off in kernel
[07:42] <ionut_> kwork I've read that RAID1 reads from both disks if the OS is multi-threaded and supports split seeks.
[07:42] <indus> dmead: iam not sure if this is fixed in latest releases
[07:43] <zhezza> Can anyone tell me the way to set up a VPN on the command line? I don't want to use NetworkManger as I use wicd
[07:43] <dmead> yeaa....
[07:43] <indus> Boohbah: hello :)
[07:43] <ionut_> but with mdadm it seems to read data from the disk that's responding faster
[07:44] <Boohbah> zhezza: install openvpn
[07:45]  * gamerx crys
[07:45]  * gamerx says whyyyyyyy!!!!!
[07:46] <zhezza> Boohbah: is that CLI?
[07:47] <hatake_kakashi> no
[07:47] <lobak> why i cannot create /var symlink ?
[07:47] <Boohbah> zhezza: yes
[07:48] <lobak> ln -s /mnt/sda1/var /var will make /var/var to point with /mnt/sda1/var
[07:50] <aaron114> just a quick question does ubuntu take up space even after updates like right now im updating and wanted to know that if the older versions take up the space because i want my computer to be clean
[07:51] <aaron114> helo usualy i get an imedeat answer
[07:52] <aaron114> does anyone know
[07:52]  * aaron114 is wondering why isn't anyone saying anything
[07:52] <zruty> "Enter password for default keyring to unlock" <<- how to get rid of that? Enter it once and it keeps nagging ...
[07:52] <zhezza> Boohbah: ok, thanks a lot
[07:52] <aaron114>  just a quick question does ubuntu take up space even after updates like right now im updating and wanted to know that if the older versions take up the space because i want my computer to be clean
[07:52] <Canadian_Trenche> aaron114 it asks if you want to keep the old repositories sometimes but normally gets rid of the old ones right away
[07:53] <indus> aaron114: do sudo apt-get clean
[07:53] <ejv> !patience | aaron114
[07:53] <Canadian_Trenche> it auto cleans but if you want to make sure that your system is clean use sudo apt-get clean
[07:53] <indus> aaron114: sudo apt-get auto-remove
[07:54] <ejv> where do people get off assuming we're all paid employees from Canonical... *sigh*
[07:54] <indus> ejv: i dont think anyone assumes that
[07:55] <sillis> Hi, does anyone know how to fix a symlink in hplip install ? my hp printer/scanner doesnt want to scan (error during device I/O)
[07:55] <ejv> I do lol
[07:55] <aaron115> helo
[07:56] <aaron115> just a quick question does ubuntu store up the older versions of things like for instance im updating and i wanted to know if some packages are replaced and it doesnt coveru up all you space
[07:57] <ejv> seriously?
[07:57] <aaron115> ejv: what?
[07:57] <aaron115> ejv: you know thw answer
[07:58] <sarthor> Hi, On Ubuntu 9.04 desktop, i was configure dual monitors, i installed Envyng, and during configuring Video card (ATI/nVdia), may be i chose wrong, now my GUI is not working, How to remove that ATI Selection now? Help
[07:58] <ejv> aaron115: im not certain, no sorry
[07:58] <ejv> aaron115: indus and Canadian_Trenche answered you already
[07:58] <indus> yeah we did
[07:59] <indus> :|
[07:59] <rww> aaron115: no, it doesn't store up the older versions of things. it cleans them up automatically periodically.
[08:00] <sillis> Anyone want to help me with this one ? https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/82440
[08:00] <kaddi> how can I install stuff offline again? I don't recall how I can get the list of packages to install from apt-get
[08:01] <B9> kaddi: thru terminal or konsole
[08:01] <rww> kaddi: do you mean apt-get --print-uris install packagename
[08:02] <ejv> kaddi: such a task is easier using: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[08:03] <sillis> The problem is with the scan/sane/soapht.c which tries to load restricted library but cant find it.
[08:03] <kaddi> ejv: yes, that's what I intend on using, but I need to know the dependencies for the packages I intend on downloading first
[08:03] <Canadian_Trenche> oh the things i do for ext4 :p
[08:03] <kaddi> rww: that doesn't ring a bell, I'll check it out. :)
[08:04] <ejv> kaddi: aptitude show <package>
[08:04] <drseung> Anyone know if I need to do anything special to enable Silicon Image 3114 sATA chipset support in 9.04
[08:05] <kaddi> ejv: thanks :)
[08:05] <kaddi> rww: thanks, that's a cool command to have. :) Didn't know apt-get could do this :p
[08:06] <ejv> kaddi: man aptitude, there are a lot of other fancy options as well
[08:06] <Oprtz> hi guys
[08:07] <Oprtz> i just install ubuntu 9.04 and i want to share 1 folder on wirless network , it says to edit sime thing in smb file for sharing option ? what to do ?
[08:07] <Canadian_Trenche> um easiest way make a foulder right click share
[08:08] <kaddi> ejv: I know.. :( I just don't seem to be able to understand man entries... I'm usually more confused after reading them.
[08:08] <Canadian_Trenche> Orptz right click on a foulder sharing options then click share this folder
[08:08] <Oprtz> Canadian_Trenche: i did the very same, right clcik, but it wontallow me to do so
[08:08] <ejv> kaddi: you would do well to make yourself comfortable with them. :)
[08:08] <Canadian_Trenche> whats it saying ( feel free to pm me)
[08:09] <Oprtz> okie wait
[08:09] <ejv> Oprtz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[08:09] <fsl> are you sharing to a windows box?
[08:09] <fsl> or between linux boxes?
[08:10] <Canadian_Trenche> if you dont have samba installed then the simple way would be to just follow that instructable
[08:10] <naxa> hi! is it possible to somehow grep in a file what is on an ftp? it is a 2.5 gb text file and I only want one line from it and i know the beginning of the line. i want sg like to download it to /dev/null but print my line if found and then exit (every line-start is unique)
[08:11] <ejv> naxa: cat <file> | grep <pattern>
[08:12] <indus> nice name change
[08:12] <Rhapsody> Well, I'm back to my USB pendrive problem. I've now tested the pendrive on my other computer, which uses Ubuntu (it works perfectly there). I've also rebooted this PC, only to still get the "Stale NFS file handle" error when attempting any write operations. This appears to be a KDE problem now.
[08:12] <naxa> ejv: but cat says that ftp://ftp.....sometging.txt is not a file or directory. it seems it cant do ft
[08:12] <naxa> p
[08:12] <om26er> i cnnot access a filesystem. iget the error read only files system
[08:13] <Rhapsody> Don't you just love KDE 4?
[08:13] <Boohbah> ejv: after having no success with the ppa version i found and compiling from source myself, i found this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/fceu
[08:13] <ejv> naxa: use wget, ftp, ncftpget, whatever, to push the file to your linux box; then cat and grep
[08:13] <kmofukka> Hello
[08:13] <indus> hi
[08:14] <naxa> ejv: but i don't have enought space to save 2.5 gb. all i have is ~ 300 mb
[08:14] <ejv> naxa: do you have access to the ftp server?
[08:14] <om26er> cannot open filesystem ti give read only error. but i can't even rad anything
[08:14] <naxa> ejv: well not a shell access. only anonymous ftp access
[08:14] <steinerhippo> naxa: maybee mount local, like in ubuntu the server mounts
[08:15] <steinerhippo> and then the grep could work
[08:15] <naxa> steinerhippo: well am i able to mount an ftp? :)
[08:15] <ejv> im not terribly confident that would work
[08:15] <naxa> I should check thet via google
[08:15] <gabriele_> ghghghg
[08:16] <naxa> ejv: well i'm not sure either but well is there any other choice?
[08:16] <fsl> naxa - you could try piping wget through grep
[08:16] <ejv> he would need to read 2.5G of data into memory and search it; terribly impracticle
[08:16] <ionut_> naxa you could start downloading the file, interrupt it and then open the file with tweak (hex editor)
[08:17] <fsl> wget ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftpserver>/<filename> -O- | grep <searchterm>
[08:17] <naxa> ionut_: yes but the file is 2.5 gb long. what if my line is at the position of 2.3 gb
[08:17] <naxa> fsl: thanks i will try that!
[08:17] <Rhapsody> I am thouroughly confused as to how it's even possible for an NFS error to keep going after two complete shut down and cold boot sequences. NFS has been rebooted now, it cannot be any other way. So where is this error coming from?
[08:17] <fsl> -O- sends to stout aka terminal
[08:17] <ionut_> I thought it were at the beggining
[08:17] <kmofukka> naxa - you ask too many questions RTFM
[08:18] <naxa> kmofukka: i don't know how manual would help me in this case
[08:18] <naxa> fsl: thanks! :)
[08:18] <fsl> np - took me a second to test if it would work
[08:18] <ejv> did that work?
[08:18] <ejv> wasn't aware of -O, that's very cool
[08:18] <roel-> this is the first time i have "NOT AUTHENTICATED" updates, should I worry?
[08:18] <ejv> good find fsl
[08:19] <fsl> -O equals output
[08:19] <kmofukka> I have no life
[08:19] <kmofukka> I sit in an IRC channel
[08:19] <kmofukka> rofl
[08:19] <fsl> -O - is output to STDOUT
[08:19] <kmofukka> no kidding
[08:19] <kmofukka> I'm just suprised people still use this protocol
[08:19] <naxa> fsl: ejv hey it worked!
[08:19] <fsl> cool
[08:19] <ejv> fantastic
[08:19] <hateball> !ot | kmofukka
[08:19] <kmofukka> do they still xdcc bot shit
[08:19] <naxa> fsl, ejv thanks ! :)
[08:19] <kmofukka> or fserves
[08:19] <ejv> !language | kmofukka
[08:19] <naxa> fsl: special thanks :)
[08:19] <sash_> naxa: you could also look for curlftpfs to mount the ftp btw
[08:19] <kmofukka> sorry
[08:20] <Rei-chan> hateball: ty.
[08:20] <naxa> kmofukka: anyway this is a support channel... i think this is for ppl who don't have time to read more than the text in --help and some pages of the man something
[08:20] <ejv> kmofukka: join #ubuntu-offtopic with our compliments if you'd like to talk about non-support related topics :)
[08:20] <naxa> sash_: thank you maybe I will check that too :)
[08:20] <Rei-chan> THinking of putting Ubuntu on a Walkabout Computers Hammerhead HH3, which is a tablet PC. It has 1 USB port. That's the ONLY port it has.
[08:21] <Rei-chan> I made a USB stick using that third party USB Ubuntu live-stick maker, who's name escapes me. WHen I boot off it, it loads the liveCD image fine.
[08:21] <corey_> Where should I begin to route wlan0 traffic to my belkin router on eth0?
[08:21] <Rei-chan> However, when I select either "Install" or "Try," it reboots the system. The tablet uses a Chips and Technologies video card.
[08:21] <corey_> I have dnsmasq and dhcp3 setup
[08:22] <Rei-chan> So, who remembers what the grub command for no framebuffer is? :)
[08:22] <Rei-chan> Or any other wild guesses they can offer as to why this thing hates Ubuntu.
[08:24] <sash_> Rei-chan: press f4 and choose safe graphics mode
[08:24] <n8tuser> Rei-chan -> try vga=700 maybe?
[08:25] <ejv>  enter "vga=normal", or "nofb" to the kernel line
[08:25] <ionut_> kmofukka is there a manpage for O (-O- )?
[08:25] <sash_> and if all this doesnt work, try the alternate-version
[08:25] <Rei-chan> Let me grab the stick, I'll boot it up in a moment and we'll see what rolls. The Chips & Tech is actually a... "prototype" build. It even says, "NOT FOR PRODUCTION USE" on the VGA BIOS screen.
[08:25] <Rei-chan> However, the tablet is mil-rated. :)
[08:27] <fsl> ionut: not sure if you are asking me or not - but -O- is an option to wget
[08:28] <ionut_> thx fsl. I didn't read the command carefully and thought the last ">" was a redirection
[08:28] <fsl> corey: can you explain better what you want to do?
[08:29] <korogiannos> Hi all.  I have a fresh Jaunty install and would like to find an audio howto.  I previously had a "mixer type" gui tool that let me select what programs audio would be sent to which sound output.  It was working perfectly but I can't remember the packages and randomly installing jack, pulse etc broke my last installation.
[08:29] <fsl> sorry my bad
[08:29] <rjb> which lua version should i install?
[08:29] <Canadian_Trenche> ok has anyone got a link to a current madwifi drivers debian file ?
[08:29] <hateball> !info pavucontrol | korogiannos
[08:30] <marik> hello
[08:30] <hateball> korogiannos: there's also... padevchooser or something like that... (not on jaunty atm)
[08:30] <fsl> korogiannos: help.ubuntu.com   --- search sound
[08:30] <rjb> how can i install the latest lua version with jaunty?
[08:31] <korogiannos> hateball: thanks. I'll check it out.  It won't be the chooser as I had it installed from the repos.
[08:31] <korogiannos> fsl: I'll give that a browse.  Thankyou
[08:31] <corey_> Where should I begin to route wlan0 traffic to my belkin router on eth0?
[08:31] <corey_> I have dnsmasq and dhcp3 setup
[08:32] <ionut_> rjb you can compile it from source
[08:32] <ionut_> http://luabinaries.luaforge.net/download.html
[08:32] <wrapster>  can any one help me build the bldenv pkg in debian
[08:33] <wrapster> im have experience with svr4 not .deb
[08:33] <roel-> ah, i needed a sudo apt-get update, apparently update manager didn't update a gpg key
[08:33] <roel-> weird
[08:35] <ionut_> rjb or you can try to install the lua5.1 packages from karmic : http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/lua5.1
[08:36] <wrapster> guys can anyone help me pls
[08:37] <kmofukka> does anyone telnet bbs and play lord, sre, and bre anymore?
[08:37] <korogiannos> hateball: Thanyou.  pavucontrol was what I was after.
[08:38] <ikorin> hi all
[08:38] <kmofukka> can you turn off these joins and parts in pidgen or whatever it si
[08:41] <kmofukka> So who uses Ubuntu here?
[08:41] <zobbo> is there any special channel for the netbook remix? The wiki page suggests not.
[08:41] <steinerhippo> kmofukka: offtopic, ... i guess everyone who's here is interested in ubuntu or uses it lol
[08:42] <kmofukka> steinerhippo: heh yeah I'm just bored and don't feel like being techincal
[08:42] <kmofukka> or whaever
[08:42] <steinerhippo> kmofukka: the offtopic chan would be the right for you
[08:43] <Rei-chan> kmofukka: Bored people go to #Ubuntu-Offtopic.
[08:43] <kmofukka> your mom would be right for me
[08:43] <kmofukka> oh
[08:43] <kmofukka> hahaha
[08:43] <kmofukka> I thought you were being all nevermind
[08:43] <kmofukka> I'm going there
[08:43] <slept> I am hving massive trouble with karmic, it performs extremely bad .... problem is that I can't file a bugreport against almost any application . Where to start ?
[08:43] <Myrtti> !karmic | slept
[08:43] <slept> Myrtti, thanks
[08:45] <`c00> good morning!
[08:45] <`c00> hi, I have a ubuntu server 9.04 installed in one of my computer..
[08:45] <`c00> is it possible to have like an on demand gui for it?
[08:46] <`c00> how do you make ubuntu-desktop load on demand (load manually)?
[08:46] <`c00> thanks.
[08:46] <sash_> `c00: startx
[08:46] <sagaci> switch to run lvl 7
[08:46] <steinerhippo> and remove from autostart
[08:47] <steinerhippo> don't know if it registers there when you install it afterwards
[08:47] <steinerhippo> but i think so
[08:47] <`c00> alright, I'll try that one.. thanks mate
[08:48] <vavar> is the Cinergy HTC USB XS HD supported with ubuntu ? or do you know a usb dvb-c device that 100% works with ubuntu and has good drivers?
[08:48] <n00bjabi> i have an ipw2200 wireless adapter on a dell 9300 with ubuntu - the wireless driver is isntalled, dmesg | grep ipw2200 shows the device info, and under detected geography it sees 11 802.11 g points, i have kwlan isntalled and configured, but when i activate or enable the connection, i can never connect or get to any networks with wpa_supplicant or not
[08:48] <w3ccv> back from another crash on F-10, ekiga hangs the system, had to power cycle. These problems never happened on RH9. nor on my netbook with UNR (Ubuntu netbook remix).
[08:49] <vavar> which usb digital tv recievers work with ubuntu?
[08:49] <w3ccv> Big question is When will RH get F-10 stable?
[08:49] <slept> what do you mean by F10 ?
[08:49] <w3ccv> Fedora-10
[08:50] <slept> ? why would that be of any interest in this channel ?
[08:50] <vavar> n00bjabi: which driver do you use for wpa_supplicant? what does it say? what else have you tried?
[08:50] <w3ccv> Last I looked this is a Redhat channel
[08:51] <vavar> n00bjabi: and which settings do you use for encryption or ap detection etc..?
[08:51] <darkham> hi, i need a mini or live distribution better than puppy DSL or slitaz, but lighter than (x)ubuntu, what can i try?
[08:51] <the-dude> im trying to install openoffice3 on hardy but it can't find the package, any suggestions?
[08:51] <slept> w3ccv, huh , #ubuntu kind of implies it is all about ubuntu , doesn't it ?
[08:52] <vavar> darkham: server edition
[08:53] <darkham> vavar: server edition wants a 64bit cpu, i don't have any
[08:54] <sash_> the-dude: openoffice 3 isnt in hardy: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/openoffice.org
[08:54] <steinerhippo> darkham: there is a 32 bit version
[08:54] <prince_jammys> !minimal
[08:54] <Rei-chan> Right, damn things a brick, thanks for help all.
[08:55] <the-dude> sash_: I added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:55] <vavar> darkham: go to the download page and load a non-64bit version then. it depends on what you want to do with it if that suits your needs.
[08:55] <the-dude> ah NM I see the problem
[08:56] <slept> what is "frontend" ?
[08:56] <the-dude> hmm quess that did not solve it
[08:56] <davix> what can I do if my gnome screen is really distorted (the desktop shows, but its really filled with lines and runing dots, as if the graphic card failed)
[08:58] <slept> davix, (check the cable) what videocard do you have ?
[08:58] <vavar> davix: either that or you check if its still plugged in or if the driver fails or if it got too hot and recovers if you tune your bios or whatever ..
[08:59] <dbuell> davix: when your post screen comes up does it have the same lines and running dots?
[08:59] <vavar> which dvb tv recievers work with ubuntu? i once had one which was not supported. i don't want to waste money again on such a thing.
[09:00] <slept> davix, you can try to change the resolution, this would be the easiest thing to try.
[09:00] <davix> slept, some generic card I really don't know, the cable is fine console shows up pretty well and also bootscreen. vavar it doesnt get too hot, it used to work perfectly just yesterday with windows
[09:00] <davix> dbuell only when the login screen goes up
[09:00] <davix> i think after the xorg
[09:00] <davix> slept, of course i tried that. it didnt work
[09:00] <slept> davix, open a terminal, use lspci to find out which card it is
[09:02] <vavar> davix: i remember such nasty graphic issues with old nvidia drivers. maybe its the video driver.
[09:02] <fsl> vavar: ask over at mythtv-users
[09:02] <davix> slept it sais VGA compatible controler by SiS
[09:02] <slept> davix, you can have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log errors would be marked with (EE)
[09:02] <vavar> fsl: thanks
[09:02] <davix> vavar it does seem like it
[09:03] <davix> vavar runing a system update now, maybe it will take care of it
[09:03] <davix> ok slept looking for ees
[09:03] <slept> davix, did you do any updates since it worked last time ?
[09:03] <davix> this is a brand new installation slept
[09:03] <Jester45> davix, not to get your hopes up but updates usally fix my problems
[09:04] <dbuell> davix: lshw -c video should give you more information regarding drivers and hardware than lspci
[09:04] <davix> EE illegal video ram size detected
[09:05] <davix> that is the most relevent error I believe
[09:05] <davix> oh
[09:05] <davix> maybe i fucked up something indeed
[09:05] <davix> ok hang on trying something (my graphic accelerator is onboard, i will try to fix it from the bios)
[09:05] <Jester45> did you tried and make your own xorg.conf? (im thinking the vram setting might be wrong )
[09:06] <slept> davix, try  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  if you messed up the configuration
[09:06] <lightpriest> is there an VDPAU like support for ATI cards?
[09:06] <lightpriest> a*
[09:06] <rsk> lightpriest: no
[09:07] <davix> Jester45, I haven't yet. i'll let it finish update and then i'll try it
[09:07] <davix> slept ok. once the update finishes i'll do it
[09:07]  * Jester45 notes to ignore him if he sounds like his not making much since
[09:07] <Canadian_Trenche> so just curious how many ppl out there have upgraded to the new 9.10 yet
[09:07] <lightpriest> i got a weak proc that shows HD movies flawlessly only with VDPAU turned on
[09:07] <lightpriest> there's no way to get that proc power of the GPU with ATI cards?
[09:07] <vavar> lshw -class video
[09:07] <vavar> lightpriest: what is VDPAU ?
[09:07] <davix> or lshw -C video
[09:08] <Jester45> ati has hardware video acceleration
[09:08] <PecisDarbs> !socket
[09:08] <ejv> vdpau is an nvidia API designed to offload video decoding to the GPU hardware
[09:08] <PecisDarbs> !sockets
[09:09] <lightpriest> !VDPAU
[09:09] <PecisDarbs> guys, can't find any reference how to deal with UNIX sockets in Ubuntu?
[09:09] <aprilhare> hello. - I want to perform an update using update manager - but I want to control when it occurs. Can this be done from the terminal?
[09:09] <lightpriest> vavar, it's an API for unix that X can send video processing tasks to the GPU
[09:09] <ejv> !cron | aprilhare
[09:09] <oobe> aprilhare, you can do it using apt-get and cron
[09:10] <ejv> lightpriest: I recommend coreavc
[09:10] <vavar> lightpriest: does that work with nvidia and ati or just one of them?
[09:10] <lightpriest> ejv, what is that?
[09:10] <lightpriest> vavar, it's nvidia's
[09:10] <vavar> good. i have a nvidia. how to use that kind of stuff?
[09:10] <ejv> an h.264 video decoder, you should compile support for coreavc into mplayer, and play your hi def content
[09:10] <oobe> aprilhare, put this line in your crontab "apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade
[09:11] <slept> aprilhare, sleep whateverlimeyoulikeinsecondfromnowon; apt-get update ; apt-get -y upgrade
[09:11] <lightpriest> ejv, that's a similar functionality to VDPAU?
[09:11] <lightpriest> cause my cpu is very weak :P
[09:11] <Jester45> PecisDarbs: im not a programmer but i can suggest that  it might be easer to think unix to linux. not unix to ubuntu.
[09:11] <ejv> they are totally different
[09:11] <the-dude> anyone with ubuntu hardy and openoffice 3 from ppa?
[09:12] <dharrison> Hi there I am looking to connect to a mysql database on mu ubuntu box from my windows machine, but i am not having much luck. anyone been able to do this?
[09:12] <lightpriest> ejv, i guess i'll just have to try ;)
[09:12] <ejv> vdpau is an api, coreavc is a software decoding library
[09:12] <oobe> dharrison, phpmyadmin
[09:12] <ejv> they are apples and oranges
[09:12] <the-dude> dharrison: mysql listens default on localhost I think
[09:13] <dharrison> oobe I have phpmyadmin working ok. I am looking for an odbc connection
[09:13] <Sicilia> hi ,, i have problem with my ipod touch ,, i install ipod-convenience and i do >> ipod-touch-mount and i get this error >> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. ...... any idea ?!
[09:13] <lightpriest> ejv, i understand that.
[09:13] <ejv> lightpriest: what video chipset are you using?
[09:13] <shazbotmcnasty> Hallo there, my friend installed ubuntu, and it worked for a while. But then after a reboot the computer wouldn't recognize the hard drives, so he's running from a live disk at the moment, with no idea what to do. Any ideas?
[09:13] <oobe> dharrison, the-dude is right you need to get mysql to bin to your lan ip rather than localhost
[09:14] <lightpriest> i have nvidia now, but i want to get an ATI. i just wanted to check if it has a similar functionality
[09:14] <vavar> the-dude: no. is oo3 even in that repository?
[09:14] <slept> Sicilia, sudo adduser your_username fuse
[09:14] <dharrison> oobe where do I do that please?  :-)
[09:14] <Sicilia> slept, i add my user before but nothing happen
[09:14] <aprilhare> thanks oobe, slept
[09:14] <ejv> shazbotmcnasty: have him list the available devices (via 'fdisk -l'), mount them to /mnt or /media, doesn't really matter, then cd to /mnt/disk/var/log ; and find out what occurred in the logs.
[09:15] <ejv> shazbotmcnasty: /mnt/<mountpoint> or /media/<mountpoint>
[09:15] <slept> Sicilia, did you lock out ?
[09:15] <oobe> dharrison, this line bind-address            = 127.0.0.1 in /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[09:15] <Jester45> shazbotmcnasty, do you know what it says at boot? no OS installed? no boot disk?    does grub load at all?   how about the BIOS does that still detect the drive
[09:15] <Sicilia> yes and i restart not only log out
[09:15] <slept> Sicilia, type groups in aterminal , see if you are member of fuse
[09:16] <Sicilia> geek@GeeK-Pc:~$ groups
[09:16] <Sicilia> fuse admin vboxusers
[09:16] <oobe> dharrison, actually you might not need to change that
[09:16] <dharrison> oh right
[09:16] <ejv> lightpriest: with properly compiled libraries, you can squeeze 1080p bluray playback off an onboard ati HD3200. you need to know what you're doing.
[09:16] <oobe> mine is set to localhost and remote pc's can still connect fine
[09:16] <Sicilia> lool i told u i add my user fuse
[09:17] <Sicilia> but nothing happen :S
[09:17] <dharrison> oh  :-(
[09:17] <lightpriest> ejv, "properly compiled" sounds like years of work ;p
[09:17] <dharrison> i can see the port is set ok 3306
[09:17] <lightpriest> ejv, anyhow... i'll try that...
[09:17] <lightpriest> thanks!
[09:17] <oobe> dharrison, check what port sql is listening on ps aux | grep sql | grep port
[09:17] <Sicilia> so anyone have any idea of this problem ?!
[09:18] <oobe> that might be a good idea to start
[09:18] <dharrison> i did a telnet on ubuntu localhost 3306 and works ok
[09:18] <ejv> lightpriest: if you're not into that, I suggest your purchase a beefy card to make sure you don't have issues; keep in mind that even sufficiently powerful cards can falter playing hi-def content; it matters what libraries your players use.
[09:18] <oobe> how are you trying to connect ?
[09:18] <the-dude> vavar: it use to work
[09:18] <Fre> anyone is using jabberd2 with openldap?
[09:19] <Sicilia> hi ,, i have problem with my ipod touch ,, i install ipod-convenience and i do >> ipod-touch-mount and i get this error >> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. ...... any idea ?!
[09:19] <the-dude> dharrison: and check if the user is grated from the remote ip
[09:19] <Myrtti> Sicilia: you need to be in the fuse group, if you're not, you need to be added by someone with sudo rights
[09:19] <lightpriest> ejv, yeah :/ well, thanks...
[09:20] <ejv> lightpriest: for example, my 8800gts, a sufficiently powerful card, can not playback 1080p bluray in VLC, because of inefficiencies within VLC.
[09:20] <slept> Sicilia, add yourself to plugdev aswell
[09:20] <Sicilia> Myrtti, ok i do this command ,, adduser myuser fuse ,, is not enough ?
[09:20] <Sicilia> slept, how ?
[09:21] <Myrtti> Sicilia: sudo adduser
[09:21] <slept> the same you did with fuse
[09:21] <dharrison> i have the odbc mysql connector on my windows xp machine, and I have tried telnet as well
[09:21] <shazbotmcnasty> okay, while booting, he said that it says 'operating system failed'
[09:21] <Sicilia> ok wait
[09:21] <ejv> lightpriest: VLC uses libraries from the ffmpeg project. the h.264 codec in ffmpeg is part of libavcodec, which is terrible; coreavc is a windows proprietary decoder, however happens to be tremendously more efficient than libavcodec.
[09:21] <dharrison> where do I check that I am granted access from my ip?
[09:21] <aaron115> do you know why my mouse clicks on x11vnc isnt getting through
[09:21] <Sicilia> ok i do it
[09:21] <Myrtti> aaron115: is x11vnc in a mode it accepts mouseclicks?
[09:22] <Sicilia> done
[09:22] <Myrtti> Sicilia: it wont take immediate action, you may need to relogin
[09:22] <Sicilia> ok if did`t work ?
[09:22] <ejv> lightpriest: my solution to make my 8800gts playback 1080p flawlessly, was mplayer + coreavc; if you really jump in, I suggest grabbing the recent build via their SVN. ;)
[09:22] <Sicilia> what should i do ?
[09:22] <lightpriest> ejv, thanks :)
[09:22] <Myrtti> Sicilia: you need to relogin
[09:22] <ManDay> There are some programs running in the background taking up a lot lot of my CPU ressources. namely "update-apt-xapi" just took up 100% for a while - i dont want that to run automatically
[09:23] <Sicilia> ok iknow
[09:23] <ejv> i know wayyyy too much about this crap
[09:23] <Sicilia> i say if did`t work what should i do ?
[09:23] <ejv> *sigh*
[09:23] <lightpriest> i'll keep that in mind ;p
[09:23] <Sicilia> if i relogin and nothing happen what i should do
[09:23] <Myrtti> Sicilia: *if*? did it work or did it not work?
[09:23] <Sicilia> not work
[09:23] <Sicilia> :\
[09:23] <ejv> lightpriest: i've seen a low end dual core amd 4850e and a onboard hd3200 playback 1080p, I hope that gives you hope ;)
[09:24] <ManDay> update-manager takes up 40 mb of memory though its not updating anything - whats that about?
[09:24] <oobe> dharrison, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-enable-remote-access-to-mysql-database-server.html
[09:24] <Myrtti> Sicilia: you relogged in that fast? wow
[09:24] <Sicilia> sorry my mind not in my head :P
[09:24] <Sicilia> nooo nooooooooooooo
[09:24] <ManDay> and why is there a pulseaudio daemon running although i am on alsa?
[09:24] <Sicilia> i saay if i relogin
[09:24] <Sicilia> and nothig happen
[09:24] <ManDay> ubuntu is wasting my ressources!!
[09:24] <oobe> dharrison, i never had any problems cause i use mythbuntu-control-centre which set all that up for me
[09:24] <Myrtti> Sicilia: relogin. we'll deal it not working, *if* it doesn't work
[09:24] <Sicilia> lat say now i relogin
[09:24] <oobe> but that article i posted should help
[09:25] <Sicilia> ok :\
[09:25] <dharrison> ah ok. thank you very mcuh I shall try that  :-)
[09:25] <slept> Sicilia, you will have to get more information about your problem I don't have an ipot so I can't find out
[09:25] <ejv> !gentoo | ManDay
[09:25] <ejv> lol
[09:25] <ManDay> ejv, thanks i got gentoo already
[09:25] <Sicilia> :x i buy for u ipod-touch 32 gb
[09:25] <abhifx> can someone help me with python? i am having trouble with blender
[09:25] <Sicilia> :P ok brb let me try
[09:26] <ManDay> ejv, im fine with ubuntu - i just want to get rid of these ressource wasting stuff because i dont have much of the former
[09:26] <ejv> abhifx: #python
[09:26] <ManDay> for instance why would i need a pulseadio daemon if i use asla?
[09:26] <drygrain> abhifx, #python is helpful
[09:26] <slept> Sicilia, lock out, lock in,  open a terminal , type groups, paste
[09:26] <Myrtti> ManDay: alsa and pulseaudio aren't contradictory
[09:26] <mne> Hi, is it possible to play play wmv9 video with WMA9 audio tracks on ubuntu amd64 ? mplayer says that the requested codec family (wma9dmo) is not available ?
[09:26] <sillis> can anyone help me with the hp scanner problem? scanimage fails always to error during device i/o..
[09:26] <pimp> q
[09:26] <rsk> mne: do what it says and install it :p
[09:26] <ManDay> Myrtti, but i dont even use pulseaudio
[09:26] <ManDay> its all alsa
[09:26] <aaron11> Myrtti: do you know how to make x11vnc make cantrol over mouseclicks
[09:27] <slept> sillis, try hplip
[09:27] <mne> rsk, it says that it is not compiled in mplayer. I would have to recompile it
[09:27] <crdlb> abhifx: what kind python help do you need?
[09:27] <sillis> i`ve installed hplip. hp-check says everything is ok
[09:27] <rsk> mne: compiling mplayer from SVN is always a good idea.
[09:27] <sillis> sane-find-scanner finds my scanner, same as scanimage -L
[09:28] <mne> rsk, so you have a working video player (like mplayer) on amd64 that can successfully decode wma9 ?
[09:28] <rsk> i'm not using amd64
[09:28] <mne> rsk, using google I just found lots of pages saying that wma9 can currently only played with the w32 codecs which does not work on amd64
[09:28] <sillis> syslog says its a problem with the soapht.c trying to load restricted library soapht.so but it cant find it
[09:29] <rsk> mne: you can uuse the w32codecs on amd64
[09:29] <mne> rsk, using a 32 bit chroot for it ?
[09:29] <rsk> that works
[09:29] <mne> rsk, that would be quite some work just to play some crappy video clips
[09:29] <ejv> who uses wma9 anyways...
[09:29] <ejv> lol
[09:30] <rsk> mne: i can'
[09:30] <rsk> t force you to do anything
[09:30] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the following processes, running ocassionally or permanently in the background and taking up valuable ressources:    pulseaudio nm-applet  bluetooth-applet nautilus (<- possible or required?) update-apt-xapi (<-- especially THAT)
[09:30] <mne> rsk, is there a manual on how to use w32 codecs on amd64 ?
[09:30] <rsk> probably
[09:30] <abhifx> crdlb, i am using a script in blender which fails saying no math module
[09:30] <ManDay> "update-apt-xapian-index"
[09:30] <ejv> compile a 32bit mplayer
[09:31] <maxagaz> i have a vpn server on a machine with a ppp connection, through the vpn ip i can ssh to this server, but not through the ppp address, why ?
[09:32] <Myrtti> ManDay: nm-applet is the frontend to network manager...
[09:32] <Myrtti> you sure you dont' want that?
[09:33] <crdlb> abhifx: does python -c "import math" work?
[09:33] <Myrtti> nautilus needs to run all the time, it's taking care of your Desktop
[09:33] <zruty> "cpio: File ./initrd.gz grew, 7520256 new bytes not copied" how serious is this...?
[09:33] <ManDay> Myrtti, yes, I'm sure because it's not even there, although it is running
[09:33] <ManDay> ah wait
[09:33] <ManDay> nevermind my bad
[09:33] <ManDay> its there
[09:33] <ManDay> ok cancel it from the list :)
[09:33] <ejv> crdlb / abhifx : please take it to offtopic or #python , thanks
[09:34] <crdlb> ejv: I'm trying to find out if his python installation is broken, which is perfectly on-topic if he's using ubuntu
[09:34] <disappearedng> Hey name me a good video editor that allows you to export audio
[09:34] <abhifx> ejv, its a python problem with ubuntu, plz let him help
[09:35] <abhifx> crdlb, nothing happens
[09:35] <ejv> crdlb / abhifx : carry on :)
[09:37] <ManDay> although I've disabled transparency in compiz, some of my windows can still appear semi-opaque (for example my terminal which is supposed to be but also the system-monitor, which i dont want to be opaque) any solutions??
[09:38] <slept> sillis, https://answers.launchpad.net/hplip/+question/81030
[09:38] <abhifx> crdlb, plz help
[09:41] <night_fox1> Hi all, I'm having trouble with locales. I just installed Gentoo and told GNOME to use something en_GB. When I use ubuntu, no text is displayed.
[09:41] <ManDay> although I've disabled transparency in compiz, some of my windows can still appear semi-opaque (for example my terminal which is supposed to be but also the system-monitor, which i dont want to be opaque) any solutions??
[09:41] <sillis> slept: hp-plugin is already installed, but the problem stays :T
[09:41] <disappearedng> Hey any good video editing software that lets you see the soundwave too?
[09:41] <crdlb> abhifx: it seems other people are having the same problem: http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=157361&page=3 , I'd say it's probably a bug in blender
[09:42] <aaron113> helo
[09:42] <night_fox1> hello
[09:43] <sarthor> in my computer Matrox Graphics with double VGA Channels, i want to use 2 monitors, any guidence, i googled but i lost in to much urls
[09:43] <iDangerMouse> Hi, my I ask how do I enable my internal mic, I did use alsamixer in terminal no help for some reason both speaker and heaphone work at the same time
[09:43] <abhifx> crdlb, thanks
[09:44] <ogge> Hi, Im new with ubuntu and looking for help with emerald. I want to style my ubuntu  a bit and dowloaded some emerald themes, but the problem is that I cant get the ehole theme when I change it. just the frames changes but not the rest. What is it that Im missing?
[09:44] <Verve87> how do i customize dwm
[09:45] <sash_> Verve87: change sourcecode
[09:45] <Verve87> apt-get source dwm ?
[09:45] <Verve87> then change config.h ?
[09:45] <sash_> http://dwm.suckless.org/ <-- read this.
[09:48] <Verve87> whats the dwm stable branch, default or merge?
[09:51] <ManDay> Can I dock a gnome-panel to a side of my screen and still maximize windows into that area?
[09:52] <dbuell> ManDay: Autohide comes to mind
[09:52] <ManDay> no, i dont want it to autohide
[09:52] <ManDay> i want it to be "always on top" and at a screen border
[09:52] <dsdeiz> anyone using subtle?
[09:53] <Boohbah> MetaBot: what do you think you're doing here?
[09:53] <dbuell> so you want the window to maximize beneath the panel?
[09:53] <denny> ManDay: no, you can't do that
[09:53] <ManDay> dbuell, yes exactly
[09:53] <n00bjabi> does the linux install cd i burned have software packages in it that i can install, i can't use kwlan to connect to a wired network
[09:53] <dbuell> yeah... I'm pretty sure you can't do that
[09:53] <denny> you can drag them out to be that size, but you can't do it with the maximise button
[09:53] <dsdeiz> who's MetaBot?
[09:54] <denny> MetaBot seems to be in a bunch of Ubuntu channels - belongs to someone whose nick is ljl
[09:54] <oobe> n00bjabi, it may have some
[09:54] <Myrtti> denny: also an authorized one.
[09:54] <n00bjabi> how about the regular network-manager
[09:55] <oobe> n00bjabi, i dont know probably
[09:55] <King1> Hi all, I'm still trying to adjust the brightness of my laptop (hp dv3-2102Tu) any ideas?
[09:55] <ManDay> denny, dbuell i think there must be some way
[09:56] <ManDay> i just got to make it believe that the panel aint docked to that side
[09:56] <ManDay> i ll try setting the position manually in the gconf-ediot
[09:56] <ManDay> r
[09:58] <iDangerMouse> Hi, my I ask how do I enable my internal mic, I did use alsamixer in terminal no help for some reason both speaker and heaphone work at the same time
[09:58] <dbuell> ManDay: yeah I have no idea beyond the autohide thing. It is also open-source :-D
[09:58] <ManDay> damn open source :D
[09:58] <ManDay> if i just had the time to make use of it
[09:58] <ManDay> xD
[09:58] <night_fox1> How can you tell who a bot belongs to?
[10:00] <ManDay> night_fox1, what bot?
[10:00] <slept> night_fox1, /whois will give you the ip
[10:01] <ManDay> although I've disabled transparency in compiz, some of my windows can still appear semi-opaque (for example my terminal which is supposed to be but also the system-monitor, which i dont want to be opaque) any solutions??
[10:01] <night_fox1> ah ok thanks, I was just wondering cos of MetaBot and ljl.
[10:02] <pimp> i got the source for dwm. what path do i set in config.mk, /usr/bin?
[10:02] <slept> pimp everything not part of the distro goes to /opt/ ( If I am not wrong)
[10:03] <CoUrPsE> RhythmBox keeps closing by itself on me, :/ Anyway of checking whats doing this?
[10:03] <CoUrPsE> Never had the problem of stuff just randomly closing, :/
[10:04] <pimp> slept: opt/bin?
[10:04] <pimp> is that the ubuntu way?
[10:04] <slept> CoUrPsE, you can start it from a terminal , so you will get more information
[10:05] <slept> pimp, not sure is the package you are building in ubuntu ?
[10:05] <CoUrPsE> Replys Segmentation fault from cli.
[10:05] <slept> CoUrPsE, thats bad
[10:05] <pimp> it is, but i pulled the source from the mercurial dwm repo. its a newer version
[10:05] <CoUrPsE> slept, Thanks, i figured that mcuh myself, :/
[10:05] <doktoreas> Hello folks!
[10:06] <doktoreas> anyone can suggest a tool for Desktop recordin which will allow zoom in?
[10:06] <mad> Hey folks
[10:06] <slept> pimp, what about the source in karmic ?
[10:06] <mad> i have some troubles mounting a usb device
[10:06] <mad> or rather finding its mountpoint
[10:06] <rakesh_> hi....is there way to see free live cricket matches
[10:06] <slept> mad , /media/
[10:07] <vinstafari> hey
[10:07] <mad> slept: It's not there
[10:07] <pimp> slept: yea, its not
[10:07] <pimp> in karmic
[10:07] <mad> fdisk -l doesn't show it neither
[10:08] <mad> when i plug it in, a desktop icon pops up  and i'm able to browse it with nautilus
[10:08] <slept> pimp have a look at checkinstall
[10:08] <mad> but i need to access it via console
[10:09] <slept> mad, mount
[10:09] <iDangerMouse> !question
[10:09] <mad> nautilus shows a path that says gphoto2://[usb:001,107]/
[10:09] <iDangerMouse> Is this a common issue that my speaker and headphone working at the same time ?
[10:09] <mad> which puzzles me, since it's not a camera
[10:10] <mad> lsusb just says "Phillips", nothing more
[10:10] <slept> mad forget about that , just type mount in a terminal
[10:10] <mad> slept: mount doesn't show it neither
[10:11] <slept> mad it is not mounted than I guess
[10:11] <mad> i can browse the device via nautlius
[10:11] <terror_> Hi everyone
[10:12] <slept> mad , dmesg will give you the devicename (just pulg it out and in before) than mount it whereever you like
[10:12] <denny> my machine just hung in the middle of updating some packages, including Firefox.  I had to power it off and restart it, after which I ran sudo apt-get install tomboy (which didn't need updating) and that finished updating all the packages that had been half done.  However, firefox won't load.  I've tried --reinstall'ing it, and removing and then installing it, and it still doesn't work - if I type 'firefox' at the command line it just returns immediat
[10:12] <denny> ely with no error (and no firefox).  Suggestions?
[10:13] <terror_> I have something i hope you guys can help with.. I am running e17, and i am running an ubuntu spin called Moonos
[10:13] <mad> dmesk shows the same as /var/log/messages
[10:13] <mad> *dmesg
[10:13] <mad> i'm not able to retrieve usefull informaion
[10:14] <slept> mad plug it out and in, so the last 4 lines are what you want to look at
[10:14] <Madpilot> denny, try "killall firefox" in a terminal, then try starting firefox
[10:15] <denny> 'no process killed'
[10:15] <Myrtti> denny: there might be a lock file
[10:15] <mad> i'm probably a bonehead here, but it says "usb 5-1" which i cannot find in /dev
[10:15] <denny> same for -bin and -3.0 too
[10:15] <denny> ooh
[10:15] <Madpilot> ooh?
[10:15] <denny> Myrtti: yup
[10:15] <slept> mad  do you see : Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[10:16] <denny> ~/.mozilla/firefox/pwo39b78o90n.default/lock
[10:16] <denny> can I just delete that?
[10:16] <Myrtti> denny: remove that and you should be set to go
[10:16] <denny> it's a broken symlink
[10:16] <denny> coolies
[10:16] <King1> Hi all, I'm still trying to adjust the brightness of my laptop (hp dv3-2102Tu) any ideas?
[10:16] <mad> slept: no
[10:16] <denny> Myrtti: rats, no go
[10:17] <Myrtti> denny: try the different command line options of it
[10:17] <slept> mad than it is not mass storage I guess, might be the reason for not getting mounted the usual way... I have no idea about that
[10:17] <Indian`> King1:  use the brightness applet
[10:17] <mad> slept:
[10:17] <mad> slept: http://pastebin.com/m41b82b59
[10:18] <terror_> im sorry to ask this, but i am running an ubuntu spin called MonnOs with enlightenment as DE. I cant change my keyboard layout, it seems that something overrides my settings. I have choosen SCIM for the setup, but nothing works. I am getting ready to install crunchbbang...
[10:19] <Myrtti> terror_: why not install ubuntu, you'd even get some support here
[10:19] <root1992> moin
[10:19] <denny> oh, this is a mess
[10:19]  * denny finds a pastebin
[10:19] <terror_> i will :D
[10:20] <mad> slept: thanks nevertheless
[10:22] <denny> okay, check this out: http://pastebin.com/d49b2424c
[10:22] <denny> paying particular attention to the size and content of the firefox.sh file
[10:22] <denny> I think I've found my problem  :)  now how do I fix it?
[10:22] <ManDay> How can I disable transparency for everything in compiz/gnome to boost performance?
[10:23] <aaron11> why isnt my mouse clicks going through my x11vnc computer
[10:23] <c0nfus3d> Hi All
[10:23] <c0nfus3d> i want to run a shell script after i install Ubuntu from a Live CD
[10:23] <c0nfus3d> and the script should run automatically
[10:24] <c0nfus3d> so is there any parameter that checks when i first reboot a ubuntu installation?
[10:29] <King1> Anyone installed ubuntu on  a dvx machine?
[10:29] <Munna> My x11vnc is not leting me use my mouse on the remote computer the crouser moves but the clicks and the typing wont work im using ubuntu jaunty jackolope and am very sorry that i dont know the x11vnc version
[10:30] <Munna> King1: no
[10:30] <Munna> King1: i dont even know whats a dvx is it mac
[10:31] <Munna> does anyone know the answer to my question
[10:31] <Munna> :/
[10:31] <der_martin> hi
[10:32] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:32] <Munna> der_martin: hi
[10:32] <Munna> Ubuntu_ how did you get that nick
[10:32] <Axlin> i can't help you with the problem itself, but it might help you get support if you know the version. in terminal: dpkg -l x11vnc
[10:32] <ubuntu_> I do not know
[10:33] <ubuntu_> My english is poor
[10:33] <Axlin> note that's -L (lowercase), not an i
[10:33] <der_martin> is there a good, working rdp-client for ubuntu ? I tried tsclient, but it gives me errors, can't connect to win2009 (server), this bug is known since 2004 and hasn't been fixed since then :(
[10:33] <Munna> mmh i know there was a kde app
[10:33] <Munna> Axlin: ok one sec
[10:34] <almostAg33k> can anyone tell me why... in the torrent program transmission  my torrents stay at idle?
[10:34] <der_martin> Munna: yes, but this doesn't work either, already tried that ;)
[10:34] <der_martin> I think they all rely on rdesktop
[10:35] <der_martin> and that's buggy since ever
[10:35] <Munna> der_martin: you mean i cannot use my mouse on my friends computer
[10:36] <der_martin> Munna: ???
[10:36] <Munna> der_martin: through vnc x11vnc
[10:36] <der_martin> Munna: I can't connect to the terminal server of my university!
[10:36] <der_martin> no vnc available
[10:36] <der_martin> ;)
[10:36] <fsl> gnome-rdp
[10:36] <fsl> krdc
[10:37] <Munna> yeaaa
[10:37] <Munna> KRDC
[10:37] <der_martin> fsl: gnome-rdp is a frontend for rdesktop
[10:37] <laclasse> apt-get install tsclient
[10:37] <Munna> thatss the right one
[10:37] <fsl> yes
[10:37] <fsl> I know
[10:37] <fsl> apt-cache search rdp
[10:37] <Munna> tsc i dont like
[10:37] <der_martin> yes, people, already tried all of them !
[10:37] <der_martin> don't work
[10:37] <der_martin> bugs not fixed
[10:37] <Munna> Axlin: ok its a 0.9.3
[10:37] <der_martin> even in the new ubunut 9.10 alpha-5
[10:38] <K-ubuntu> ubuntu9.10?
[10:38] <Munna> i cant wait for the kola to come to my house!
[10:38] <der_martin> yap
[10:38] <der_martin> :)
[10:38] <der_martin> me neither
[10:38] <fsl> what bug?
[10:38] <der_martin> I REALLY like it so far
[10:38] <der_martin> fsl: one moment
[10:38] <Munna> Axlin: helo?
[10:38] <ManDay> How can I disable transparency for everything in compiz/gnome to boost performance?
[10:39] <Munna> ManDay: simple go to your settings manager
[10:39] <Munna> ManDay: then check off trail focous
[10:40] <Munna> ManDay: this is used in kompiz
[10:40] <Munna> or compiz
[10:40] <ManDay> trail focus?
[10:40] <ManDay> where do i find that?
[10:40] <der_martin> fsl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tsclient/+bug/241338
[10:40] <Munna> ManDay: scrool
[10:40] <ManDay> what?
[10:40] <Munna> ManDay: scroll
[10:40] <Munna> lol
[10:40] <der_martin> fsl: there are MANY similar bugs concerning this problem, none REALLY got fixed
[10:41] <der_martin> always pretending to be fixed, but aren't
[10:41] <ManDay> Munna, where?
[10:41] <Munna> der_martin: enjoy launch pad 3, 2, 1 LAUNCH!
[10:41] <Elvanor> Are there ready to use ISO images for USB keys?
[10:41] <der_martin> Munna :-P
[10:41] <fsl> this as a vnc related bug not rdp
[10:41] <ManDay> Is there a way to safely remove everything related to pulseaudio (im using alsa)?
[10:41] <Elvanor> I want to install Linux on a laptop without a CD/DVD drive
[10:42] <ManDay> I tried uninstalling it but it claims that it will have to uninstal "gnome-desktop", too
[10:42] <ManDay> which i would like to keep, of course
[10:42] <Munna> ManDay: mmh ask someone else i want preformance for blactrack on my vm
[10:42] <ManDay> Munna what?
[10:42] <der_martin> Munna: this seems to be a problem regarding rdesktop, it's in nearly all distributions
[10:42] <der_martin> a friend of mine uses gentoo: same problem
[10:42] <Munna> ManDay: i dont use compiz except when i want to show som1 the power of linux ;)
[10:43] <Munna> ManDay: sorry im wierd
[10:43] <ManDay> ah ok
[10:43] <ManDay> yes you are
[10:43] <der_martin> damn...I DON'T WANT to return to M$, this sucks!
[10:43] <Munna> ManDay:  blacktrack is a penitrating tool\
[10:43] <fsl> der_martin: i have never had rdesktop issues connecting to and Windows Server version
[10:43] <fsl> you might have network issues etc.
[10:43] <ManDay> munna, do you have trouble typing?
[10:43] <Axlin> Elvanor, probably, but i just use unetbootin to create my own
[10:43] <Munna> der_martin: what? <:/
[10:43] <fsl> have you verified the ports are open
[10:43] <fsl> ?
[10:43] <Gnea> !usb | Elvanor
[10:43] <Elvanor> Axlin: I dont have Ubuntu myself (Gentoo)
[10:44] <der_martin> M$ prohibits universities to give away their OS for a student price, you have to buy their crap
[10:44] <Munna> Elvanor: i dont like gentoo it looks more like ms 2000
[10:44] <der_martin> fsl: all ports are open
[10:44] <fsl> how have you checked?
[10:44] <Elvanor> Munna: guess you never really used it then :)
[10:44] <der_martin> sure
[10:44] <fsl> which ports have you checked?
[10:44] <der_martin> I'm not running a firewall here
[10:45] <ankur> hello everyone...
[10:45] <Elvanor> All the pages I am finding refer to creating your own USB image
[10:45] <Elvanor> are there ready to burn ones?
[10:45] <Munna> ankur: hi
[10:45] <der_martin> and our router doesn't block them
[10:45] <ankur> i am facing a problem regarding kernel...
[10:45] <Munna> what
[10:45] <ManDay> I can't figure out where ROOT (program) got installed to. in installed it through synaptic but its not where the documentation says (/opt/root) how can i figure out where it is?
[10:45] <der_martin> fsl: working perfect with M$ rdp client
[10:45] <Munna> ankur: what happend
[10:45] <der_martin> so no port problem
[10:46] <Elvanor> I just need a live image to boot into linux and then proceed with my (Gentoo based) install
[10:46] <Gnea> Elvanor: it's evident that you have NOT read those pages.
[10:46] <ankur> since last three days i was unable to login into graphical mode in ubuntu box...
[10:46] <fsl> ... that is not the same as checking to see if the ports are open
[10:46] <Munna> so does anyone know the key to my problem :P
[10:46] <fsl> your isp could be blocking
[10:46] <fsl> etc.
[10:46] <der_martin> nope, doesn't
[10:46] <fsl> can you telnet to the terminal server on 3389?
[10:46] <der_martin> it's the university, they don't block this stuff
[10:47] <Munna> fsl: my isp is blocking? no i tried it with subcomandante in #yafaray channel
[10:47] <Elvanor> Gnea: I did. But they all need some sort of sepcial tools
[10:47] <Elvanor> iso-to-stick.sh or such scripts
[10:47] <der_martin> fsl: I doubt that they leave telnet open
[10:47] <der_martin> kind of a security problem ;)
[10:47] <fsl> its not for telnet
[10:47] <fsl> telnet is a dumb protocal
[10:47] <Munna> so does anyone know
[10:47] <fsl> it will tell you if the port is open
[10:47] <der_martin> you don't really need telnet for rdp conections
[10:48] <fsl> no
[10:48] <Munna> ManDay:  i belive it's trail focus in compiz
[10:48] <fsl> you need telnet to test ports
[10:48] <der_martin> normally telnet is deactivated for security reassons
[10:48] <Gnea> Elvanor: then you didn't read them all the way through.
[10:48] <ManDay> Is there a way to safely remove everything related to pulseaudio (im using alsa)?
[10:48] <fsl> yes
[10:48] <Munna> go to #compiz
[10:48] <ankur> Manna: now from web search i experimented "modborbe intel-agp" now i can see the login screen...but the keyboard and mouse are still not working...
[10:48] <fsl> which is why you are telneting on 3389
[10:48] <fsl> to connect to the terminal server
[10:48] <Axlin> Elvanor, i would just use unetbootin. fire up the program, select the distro, select the drive, click okay
[10:48] <Elvanor> Axlin: unetbootin is only for Ubuntu ? or is it available on other distros?
[10:49] <Munna> ankur: i can connect and see the desktop in action but cant controll it
[10:49] <Axlin> Elvanor, you can use it on any linux distro you want, or windows
[10:49] <Elvanor> Ha, it is available on Gentoo
[10:49] <Gnea> Elvanor: please see the 'manual approach' on the first link.
[10:49] <Elvanor> ok, let me try that
[10:49] <fsl> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/187628
[10:49] <fsl> using telnet to test port 3389 functionality
[10:49] <ankur> any idea regarding this...?
[10:49] <Munna> Elvanor: mmmh i think unet booting is not good
[10:50] <Elvanor> Why ?
[10:50] <Munna> i am ur ubuntu teacher microsoft is a bad word
[10:50] <der_martin> fsl: name or service not known
[10:50] <Gnea> Munna: ...
[10:51] <Munna> Elvanor: because if you do have problems on the live sesion u cant return or i dont know how to return
[10:51] <ManDay> Munna, is it "blacktrack" or "backtrack"?
[10:51] <Elvanor> Munna: what are you talking about...
[10:51] <fsl> der_martin: ? more specific please
[10:51] <Elvanor> which live session?
[10:51] <Gnea> Munna: yes, what ARE you talking about?
[10:51] <der_martin> telnet ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de:3389
[10:51]  * Elvanor thinks Munna is talking nonsense since he compared gentoo to Win 200 :)
[10:51] <Munna> ManDay: black track there is no difrence to the choices that u gave
[10:51] <der_martin> telnet: could not resolve ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de:3389/telnet: Name or service not known
[10:52] <fsl> no telnet ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de 3389
[10:52] <der_martin> but I can ping the computer
[10:52] <der_martin> dns works
[10:52] <Elvanor> s/200/2000
[10:52] <fsl> space before port
[10:52] <ManDay> Munna, read again
[10:52] <kling0n> i'm suffering from an eternal loop like this:
[10:52] <kling0n> usb-storage:
[10:52] <der_martin> fsl: sure
[10:52] <fsl> no :
[10:52] <kling0n> Sep 11 11:52:02 gamebox kernel: [ 7960.844670] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense Key : No Sense [current]
[10:52] <kling0n> Sep 11 11:52:02 gamebox kernel: [ 7960.844675] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdc] Add. Sense: No additional sense information
[10:52] <der_martin> what did you expect ?
[10:52] <ManDay> there is no distribution called "blacktrack"
[10:52] <kling0n> usb stick keeps locking med out
[10:52] <miguelonnnn> hi, some kiddie is stealing me bandwith, how can i list all the ip's connected to my computer?
[10:52] <fsl> telnet ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de 3389
[10:53] <kling0n> tried removing usb_storage module but it autoloads when i insert the kley
[10:53] <fsl> not telnet ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de:3389
[10:53] <Munna> back sory
[10:53] <Gnea> miguelonnnn: sudo netstat -nap
[10:53] <ManDay> Munna, is it "blacktrack" or "backtrack"?
[10:53] <ManDay> ok
[10:53] <erUSUL> miguelonnnn: sudo netstat -putan
[10:53] <kling0n> miguelonnnn: netstat -an
[10:53] <Munna> backtrack
[10:53] <der_martin> fsl: used to ssh ;)
[10:53] <miguelonnnn> thx gnea
[10:53] <Munna> ManDay: why do you wana know
[10:53] <miguelonnnn> and erusul and kilng0n
[10:53] <fsl> der_martin ?
[10:53] <der_martin> fsl: Connected to ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de
[10:53] <Munna> fsl: used to hacking in insecure methods ;) :D
[10:53] <ManDay> because i want to understand your gibberish Munna
[10:54] <ankur> Munna:...?
[10:54] <der_martin> fsl: seems to work
[10:54] <fsl> k port is open
[10:54] <Munna> ManDay: it is a penitrating os
[10:54] <Gnea> Munna: do you have a question?
[10:54] <ManDay> i know
[10:54] <der_martin> I REALLY think this is a rdesktop problem
[10:54] <Munna> Gnea: hell ya
[10:54] <fsl> rdesktop ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de
[10:54] <Gnea> Munna: and that would be?
[10:54] <der_martin> other people had the exact same problem
[10:54] <ankur> Munna: do u have any idea...
[10:55] <fsl> even from here I can hit it just fine
[10:55] <Munna> why isnt my mouse clicks and keybord taps not getting through my x11vnc
[10:55] <der_martin> fsl: rdesktop ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de
[10:55] <der_martin> Autoselected keyboard map de
[10:55] <der_martin> disconnect: Internal licensing error.
[10:55] <Gnea> Munna: probably because it doesn't work right. can you even see the remote desktop with it?
[10:55] <fsl> sounds like they have too many people connecting
[10:55] <Munna> ManDay: its used to hack a system
[10:55] <der_martin> gnea: nope
[10:56] <ManDay> Munna, are you a native speaker?
[10:56] <der_martin> fsl: what a crap...M$!
[10:56] <Gnea> Munna: you're trying to hack a system with x11vnc?
[10:56] <fsl> windows server 2008 remote connection license limit
[10:56] <ankur> Now from web search i experimented "modborbe intel-agp" now i can see the login screen...but the keyboard and mouse are still not working...
[10:57] <Sicilia>  hi ,, i have problem with my ipod touch ,, i install ipod-convenience and i do >> ipod-touch-mount and i get this error >> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. ...... any idea ?!
[10:57] <Munna> Gnea: ? no i want to learn to be a system admin and btw i use ubuntu as the host os and backtrack as a guest os in a vm
[10:57] <Gnea> der_martin: wait, are you the one with the problem or Munna?
[10:57] <ankur> its almost 3rd day with no solution...
[10:57] <der_martin> gnea: yap
[10:57] <Munna> Gnea: me !
[10:57] <der_martin> hehe
[10:58] <der_martin> ok: my problem is the one regarding rdp to win2008
[10:58] <Munna> der_martin: you yap yap of
[10:58] <der_martin> :)
[10:58] <Munna> why isnt my mouse clicks and keybord taps not getting through my x11vnc
[10:58] <Sicilia> Myrtti, are u here ?!
[10:58] <Gnea> Munna: I don't know what backtrack is.
[10:58] <Munna> Myrtti: helo
[10:58] <erUSUL> Sicilia: add what the error suggest. add yourself to the fuse group. « sudo adduser $USER fuse »
[10:58] <Asuser> Gnea it's evil
[10:58] <Asuser> pure evil
[10:59] <Munna> Gnea: its a hacking distro of linuz
[10:59] <Sicilia> erUSUL,  i do it already
[10:59] <erUSUL> Sicilia: do* what the error suggest...
[10:59] <Munna> Gnea:  used for hacking
[10:59] <Gnea> oh, this? http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html
[10:59] <Munna> Gnea: ya
[10:59] <Munna> :P
[10:59] <erUSUL> Sicilia: you logged out/in for the change to take effect ?
[10:59] <Gnea> Asuser: sounds pretty useful to me
[10:59] <Munna> ya and fun
[10:59] <Sicilia> erUSUL,  yes nothing hapen
[10:59] <Sicilia> erUSUL,  yes nothing happen
[10:59] <erUSUL> Sicilia: :|
[11:00] <Gnea> Munna: so you're trying to x11vnc to backtrack from ubuntu?
[11:00] <Sicilia> erUSUL,  really im comfuse
[11:00] <Sicilia> :\
[11:00] <fsl> der_martin: remove ~/.rdesktop/license.<hostname>
[11:00] <Munna> Sicilia: !repeat
[11:00] <fsl> der_martin: and try to connect rdesktop ts.zdv.uni-mainz.de again
[11:00] <Sicilia> i repeat it twice
[11:00] <Asuser> Gnea it's evil I tells ya!
[11:00] <Sicilia> look
[11:00] <erUSUL> Sicilia: me too. never used that program so i'm out of other ideas.
[11:00] <Sicilia> geek@GeeK-Pc:~$ groups
[11:00] <Sicilia> fuse plugdev admin vboxusers
[11:00] <Gnea> Asuser: only if you don't know how to defend yourself, perhaps
[11:01] <Munna> Asuser: then learn to hack and be evil
[11:01] <Gnea> Munna: enough.
[11:01] <erUSUL> Sicilia: maybe the fuse module is not loaded ?
[11:01] <Munna> so can someone help instead of asking me
[11:01] <Asuser> Gnea pure evil!
[11:01] <Gnea> Munna: trying to help by asking you.
[11:01] <erUSUL> Sicilia: sorry fuse is builtin...
[11:01] <Sicilia> how i check  ?
[11:02] <Sicilia> :S ok
[11:02] <Sicilia> looooooooooool
[11:02] <der_martin> fsl: funny story:
[11:02] <Gnea> Asuser: yeah, heard you the first 3 times. are you done?
[11:02] <Asuser> you can install all the "security tools" backtrack offers on ubuntu
[11:02] <frenkien> anyone tell me how to stop servives at line command
[11:02] <Munna> Asuser: shutup
[11:02] <der_martin> fsl: powered up my xp-vm, connected to ts without any problems!!!
[11:02] <Asuser> Gnea nope
[11:02] <Gnea> !attitude | Munna
[11:02] <Asuser> Gnea just getting started. But thanks for asking
[11:02] <erUSUL> frenkien: sudo /etc/init.d/service stop
[11:02] <der_martin> rdesktop: doesn't work with same errors
[11:02] <Asuser> !attitude | Gnea
[11:03] <Gnea> !guidelines > Asuser
[11:03] <Munna> :.
[11:03] <Asuser> !ot | GnarlyBob
[11:03] <Gnea> Asuser: pardon?
[11:03] <Asuser> sorry bobby
[11:03] <Asuser> !ot | Gnea
[11:03] <Munna> Asuser: i dont want to use ops
[11:03] <DrMrHorse> bot anger
[11:03] <frenkien> erUSUL,  command to perminently turn off the service
[11:03] <Breaking_Pitt> someone can tell me what is the function of the ident daemon, i have been taking a look at google
[11:03] <Gnea> Asuser: you're funny.
[11:03] <Breaking_Pitt> but i can't find if it can be disabled!
[11:03] <erUSUL> frenkien: sudo update-rc.d -f service remove
[11:04] <erUSUL> !boot | frenkien
[11:04] <der_martin> fsl: this REALLY seems to be a rdesktop-problem :)
[11:04] <Asuser> Gnea this is a support channel for ubuntu. We do not discuss other distros, nor their efficacy in "hacking". thank you
[11:04] <frenkien> ty erUSUL
[11:04] <fsl> did you remove the file
[11:04] <fsl> look in home
[11:04] <Munna> Gnea: why isnt my mouse clics not going through my x11vnc
[11:04] <Gnea> Asuser: no kidding, right? you think I don't know this?
[11:04] <fsl> .rdesktop/
[11:04] <fsl> remove license file
[11:04] <Serendippo> Is http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/ down for all of you, or is it just me?
[11:04] <fsl> and reconnect
[11:04] <fsl> its that easy
[11:04] <Gnea> Munna: please, answer my question if you want an answer to your question.
[11:04] <Asuser> Gnea and further discussion of this should be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic. Thank you
[11:04] <Munna> what is you question
[11:05] <Gnea> Asuser: I have a better idea - mind your own business.
[11:05] <Asuser> !ot | Gnea
[11:05] <Sicilia>  hi ,, i have problem with my ipod touch ,, i install ipod-convenience and i do >> ipod-touch-mount and i get this error >> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. ...... any idea ?!
[11:05] <Munna> Asuser: im calling ops
[11:05] <Gnea> Asuser: stop.
[11:06] <Breaking_Pitt> some advice to mi question?
[11:06] <Asuser> Munna there are ops here. This is an ubuntu support channel. Please do not abuse the good will of the people here to help
[11:06] <Asuser> Gnea if I were you I would just drop it.
[11:06] <Munna> Gnea: what is your question
[11:06] <Munna> !ops
[11:06] <Munna> asuser is not being quiet
[11:07] <Munna> DBO
[11:07] <der_martin> fsl: strange bug, but seems to work
[11:07] <c0nfus3d> how to find if a ubuntu box is running for the first time or not?
[11:07] <Asuser> Munna how may I help you? What is your question?
[11:07] <fsl> glad I could help
[11:07] <fsl> heave a good day I am outta here
[11:08] <der_martin> fsl: thx very much!
[11:08] <der_martin> cya
[11:08] <Munna> Asuser: i cant get my mouse clicks or keybord taps through my x11vnc
[11:08] <Munna> ive typed this many times!
[11:08] <Serendippo> Can anyone conform if http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/ is down?
[11:08] <Gnea> Munna: and this is a x11vnc connection from your ubuntu desktop to backtrack in vm?
[11:08] <Asuser> Munna I'm sorry, I have only just joined and had to suffer abuse from Gnea
[11:08] <Amaranth> Serendippo: I believe it has been for some time
[11:09] <Asuser> Munna now, are you connecting from ubuntu to backtrack via VNC?
[11:09] <Munna> Gnea: manday just asked about backtrack so i told him about it forget backtrack
[11:09] <cantoma> guys, how can i find out the filesystem of an external disk
[11:09] <Gnea> Munna: it's too late now.
[11:09] <Serendippo> Amaranth: yes, a few weeks i think. I just wonderd if it was an error on my end or not. Updates keep on giving me index-corruption and unreachable destinations.
[11:09] <Asuser> Gnea he doesn't have backtrack. You must understand that.
[11:09] <Munna> asuser no
[11:10] <Munna> Asuser: yes i do
[11:10] <Asuser> oh my
[11:10] <Gnea> Asuser, Munna: it's been logged publicly, you can't go back.
[11:10] <Munna> Asuser: stopit with backtrack
[11:10] <Amaranth> cantoma: you have to know
[11:10] <Asuser> Munna we have to know if this is between two machines running Ubuntu or what
[11:10] <cantoma> Amaranth, mount: wrong fs type,
[11:10] <Amaranth> cantoma: or install gparted, I suppose it should be able to tell you
[11:10] <Munna> running ubuntu local!
[11:11] <Asuser> Munna we can't help you if you aren't explicit
[11:11] <Asuser> !attitude | Munna
[11:11] <Asuser> Gnea I understand why you were so angry before now
[11:11] <Munna> im on aaronvarghese and want to connect to the other account called aimeegrace
[11:11] <Gnea> Asuser: may I pm you?
[11:11] <dwi> alt-printscreen-k wont bring up the photo cropper
[11:11] <Asuser> Gnea no, but thank you for asking first. It is a trait seldom seen nowdays.
[11:12] <sid> hi
[11:12] <Gnea> Asuser: okay.
[11:12] <dwi> for me
[11:12] <Munna> sid hi
[11:12] <arivu> hi
[11:12] <Asuser> Gnea well, ok. But only if you promise not to attempt to cyber
[11:12]  * azza atemts it
[11:12] <sid> k
[11:12] <Asuser> promise?
[11:12] <sid> promise
[11:12] <Munna> can someone help me
[11:13] <azza> i can
[11:13] <phux> Munna, with what?
[11:13] <Amaranth> Munna: You need to clearly state the problem
[11:14] <Amaranth> Munna: What you are trying to do with what technology, what you expect it to do, what it is doing instead
[11:14]  * sid picks nose
[11:14] <Amaranth> sid: Please don't do that in here
[11:14] <emile> what applications use the system wide proxy setting?
[11:15] <Munna> azza: i want to connect using ubuntu which has 2 users im in one of the users and want to access the other account using x11vnc i can connect and the crouser moves correctly but the clicks of the mouse isnt picked up and the taps of the keybord is also isnt picking up? is using ubuntu 9.04
[11:15] <Amaranth> Munna: Is the other user using compiz?
[11:15] <atomi> Hi. I believe I have mixed up my gems by using both the gems and aptitude for installing. Can I somehow rebuild gem index or do another repair operation?
[11:15] <Munna> nope
[11:16] <Munna> helo?
[11:17] <azza> Munna: in my experiance the live cd does the same thing... it could be you're system rather than the ubuntu o/s
[11:17] <Munna> azza: no
[11:17] <terror_> Hi everyone :) Anyone using openbox in here?
[11:17] <Gothfunc> hi.  on my jaunty laptop, connected to the network with wifi, i need to mount a remote disk on a linux server.  nfs will hang if it goes out of range, so what should i be using?
[11:17] <Amaranth> Munna: If no one is answering it is because no one has the answer. That is a very odd problem
[11:18] <Amaranth> Gothfunc: samba or sshfs
[11:18] <dwi> does anyone know why alt-printscreen-k wont open the photo cropper lik eit should???
[11:18] <Ademan> I remember reading about some new protocol to replace nfs...
[11:18] <Munna> azza: ive tried x11vnc with subcomandante on the channel #yafaray and he controlled mine and it worked
[11:18] <Ademan> not that it's gained any traction...
[11:18] <Amaranth> dwi: printscreen isn't a modifier, you can have alt-printscreen or alt-k but not alt-printscreen-k
[11:19] <sadrolla> hi , i will install new driver vga ( nvidia , 185 ) who make deb ?
[11:19] <Munna> so noone knows the answer
[11:19] <Gothfunc> Amaranth: i'm using cifs at the moment and it seems ok, apart from the fact that gedit can't delete backup files when it saves.  i have backups unchecked in the prefs but apparently it's normal for gedit to create the backup anyway then delete it after, but it's not getting deleted and the files are building up and up until i get errors.  i can delete them manually and the permissions are fine.  any ideas?
[11:19] <azza> Munna: just wait an hour or so
[11:19] <fsl> Munna: what commands are you using to launch x11vnc ?
[11:20] <Amaranth> sadrolla: That driver is only is the development release of Ubuntu, you'll have to wait for the next release if you want an easy way to install it
[11:20] <Munna> azza: :o
[11:20] <azza> Lolz
[11:20] <Amaranth> Gothfunc: Sorry, don't have any experience with cifs
[11:20] <Michalxo> sadrolla, sudo aptitude update  or sudo aptitide install nvidia-glx-185   :) (though, I am on karmic :P )
[11:20] <Munna> fsl: x11vnc -rfbauth /home/aaronvarghese/.vnc/passwd
[11:20] <Amaranth> Gothfunc: I prefer sshfs myself
[11:20] <fsl> Munna: read the faq for x11vnc
[11:21] <Munna> link please its a large website !;)
[11:21] <azza> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45565
[11:21] <Munna> ;)
[11:21] <gemilang> hello there, need help. i have p3 desktop what kind linux that can be run in this desktop. please suggest me
[11:21] <fsl> Munna: Question #3 "keystrokes and mouse button clicks are ignored (I am able to move the mouse though)
[11:21] <Amaranth> Gothfunc: You can configure ssh to only allow connections within your network but if you configure it to only work with ssh keys and not regular passwords it should be secure enough to allow access from anywhere
[11:21] <sadrolla> Michalxo: i am on kubuntu 9.04 , i will faster kubi
[11:21] <Amaranth> gemilang: Regular Ubuntu 32-bit should work on that system as long as you have enough RAM
[11:21] <fsl> munna: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-missing-xtest
[11:21] <sadrolla> realy kubu 4.3.1
[11:22] <Amaranth> gemilang: You may want to check out Xubuntu though
[11:22] <Gothfunc> Amaranth: thanks
[11:22] <ManDay> ROOT in ubuntu is not quite set up as describe in the documentation - does anyone have experience with ROOT under ubuntu?
[11:22] <gemilang> amaranth: thanks
[11:22] <Sky[x]> any idea how to enable usb wireless on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[11:22] <Munna> thank you all get back as soon as i get a problem
[11:22] <Amaranth> ManDay: root is disabled, you should use sudo
[11:22] <ManDay> Amaranth, im talking about the program called ROOT
[11:22] <ManDay> root.cern.ch
[11:23] <Munna> ok ~/.vnc/port.txt does what
[11:23] <Amaranth> ManDay: oh, wow, never heard of that
[11:24] <Asuser> !sudo | Amaranth
[11:24] <Amaranth> Asuser: Why did you do that?
[11:24] <Munna> ok ~/.vnc/port.txt does what
[11:24] <Asuser> Amaranth so you could learn about sudo
[11:24] <gemilang> amaranth: is that ok even im using p3 to installing ubuntu 9.04
[11:24] <ManDay> lol
[11:25] <Amaranth> Asuser: I've written patches for libgksu, I think I know what sudo is :)
[11:25] <Asuser> Amaranth I congratulate you on your achievements sir.
[11:26] <Asuser> Amaranth my use of the bot was misplace. Perhaps you could find it in your heart to forgive me.
[11:26] <ManDay> ROOT (root.cern.ch - the program) in ubuntu is not quite set up as describe in the documentation - does anyone have experience with ROOT under ubuntu?
[11:26] <Elvanor> OK, I installed the image into an USB stick but my laptop won't boot it
[11:26] <Asuser> s/misplace/misplaced
[11:26] <Amaranth> Asuser: Err, sure.
[11:26] <ikonia> Asuser: can I pm you please I need a moment of your time
[11:27] <Asuser> ikonia perhaps in a moment, I am busy now. I will get back to you when it is convienient for me. Thank you.
[11:27] <ikonia> Asuser: ok - then please hold off helping anyone else in the channel until I've had a chance to talk to you
[11:28] <Asuser> ikonia I have indicated I am busy. Could you wait to address me when I've said it's ok. Thank you again.
[11:28] <Ytxx> whats the command to copy a file from one directory to another ?
[11:29] <Ytxx> from command line
[11:29] <Ytxx> dah
[11:29] <Amaranth> Ytxx: cp
[11:29] <kalana> hah
[11:29] <Asuser> Ytxx cp <filename> <destination>
[11:29] <zopiac> i try to burn an audio cd but it gets stuck at Normalizing Tracks, can anyone help?
[11:33] <Sicilia>  hi ,, i have problem with my ipod touch ,, i install ipod-convenience and i do >> ipod-touch-mount and i get this error >> Please add yourself to the fuse group, logout/in and try again. ...... any idea ?!
[11:34] <Boohbah> Sicilia: did you add yourself to the fuse group and then logout/in ?
[11:34] <Sicilia> yes
[11:34] <AryehGregor> What might it mean if my machine locks up; responds to pings but not SSH; Alt-SysRq REISUB lets me reboot with clean filesystems; but Alt-SysRq-K doesn't restart the session, and there's nothing relevant in syslog?
[11:34] <AryehGregor> (by "doesn't respond to SSH" I mean it times out)
[11:34] <Boohbah> Sicilia: what is the output of 'groups' from a terminal?
[11:35] <Sicilia> geek@GeeK-Pc:~$ groups
[11:35] <Sicilia> fuse plugdev admin vboxusers
[11:36] <Boohbah> Sicilia: is the fuse module loaded? 'sudo lsmod |grep fuse'
[11:36] <dayo> * */24 * * *    <--- is this the right format for an hourly cron?
[11:36] <Sicilia> geek@GeeK-Pc:~/Desktop$ sudo lsmod |grep fuse
[11:36] <Sicilia> geek@GeeK-Pc:~/Desktop$
[11:37] <dayo> alternatively, would merely dropping a script into /etc/cron.hourly do the trick, or do i need to further configure something?
[11:38] <King1> Any HP notebook users with brightness issues
[11:38] <Boohbah> Sicilia: try 'sudo modprobe fuse' and then try to mount your ipod again
[11:39] <Sicilia> geek@GeeK-Pc:~$ sudo modprobe fuse
[11:39] <Sicilia> FATAL: Module fuse not found.
[11:39] <Sicilia> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[11:39] <rsk> 8]
[11:39] <Boohbah> Sicilia: ok, you'll need to get that module for your kernel, what does 'uname -a' say ?
[11:40] <Sicilia> Linux GeeK-Pc 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 18:40:08 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:40] <Amaranth> Sicilia: fuse is compiled into the kernel, iirc
[11:40] <Amaranth> Sicilia: no module to load, it is always on
[11:40] <erUSUL> Boohbah: grep FUSE_FS /boot/config-2.6.28-15-generic --> CONFIG_FUSE_FS=y
[11:40] <Sicilia> mm
[11:40] <erUSUL> Boohbah: is built in afaics
[11:41] <Amaranth> Sicilia: Your iPod Touch is jailbroken, right?
[11:41] <Sicilia> no
[11:41] <Boohbah> Amaranth, erUSUL: oh, i was not aware
[11:41] <etuardu> Hello, is there a way to get an ipv6-compliant version of xchat from apt-get?
[11:41] <Amaranth> Sicilia: Then unless you have iPhone OS 2.0 or so you probably can't mount it
[11:41] <Sicilia> i have ipod-touch version 1.1.2
[11:41] <Amaranth> Sicilia: There are tools for reading from an iPod Touch without jailbreak but they are fragile and buggy
[11:42] <Amaranth> Sicilia: you have that old of a version on your ipod? wow
[11:42] <Sicilia> yes
[11:42] <Sicilia> lol
[11:42] <Sicilia> :P
[11:42] <Sicilia> AND iwant to update
[11:42] <Amaranth> Sicilia: upgrade to 3.0, jailbreak, access it that way
[11:42] <Sicilia> i can`t
[11:42] <Amaranth> Sicilia: there is no real way to use your ipod from linux without jailbreak
[11:42] <Sicilia> first if i cant mount tis
[11:42] <Sicilia> it
[11:42] <Sicilia> :\
[11:43] <PoLL`> hi, i wonder if you guys know how to add workspaces in xfce/xubuntu? right-clicking->preferences the workspace switcher does not offer a option for addin more workspaces
[11:43] <Amaranth> Sicilia: You wouldn't be able to upgrade it from linux anyway
[11:43] <Amaranth> PoLL`: You might have better luck in #xubuntu
[11:44] <PoLL`> well the same goes for ubuntu
[11:44] <Sicilia> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:44] <Sicilia> mmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:44] <PoLL`> e.g. i have the same problem with ubuntu gnome
[11:44] <Sicilia> so what i do now ,, i go to a computer store and updated ?!
[11:44] <Sicilia> or install windows ?
[11:44] <erUSUL> PoLL`: in ubuntu right clicking in the choser and selecting properties does the trick
[11:45] <PoLL`> erUSUL: i know, but in my case this option is missig
[11:45] <PoLL`> erUSUL: i can only set the width ...
[11:46] <Amaranth> Sicilia: You need access to a computer with iTunes installed
[11:47] <daasdingo> hey guys, I have an external hard disk and want to use it on both linux and windows systems, what filesystem should i use? ntfs always made problems when windows users unsecurely removed it, and fat32 has 4gb limit, and ext3/4 cannot be read by the stupid windows, does anyone know a good fle system?
[11:47] <moqill> hello
[11:47] <richardcavell> daasdingo: you don't have very many choices
[11:47] <richardcavell> daasdingo: FAT32 is the obvious choice
[11:48] <daasdingo> but I have movies which are over 4gb, thats the problem
[11:48] <Boohbah> Sicilia: kind of sucks dealing with a company that locks down their devices like that huh?
[11:48] <moqill> i dont linke FAT32 :)
[11:48] <richardcavell> well I don't like it either
[11:48] <richardcavell> but if you want a filesystem that works on Linux and Windows flawlessly, that's your answer
[11:48] <daasdingo> hm
[11:49] <daasdingo> yes, I dont like it either
[11:49] <moqill> whre are you from?
[11:49] <Aijse> Or make ir ext 3 and share it rhough samba
[11:49] <Sicilia> Boohbah, that`s a way for bill ge ..... and apple company :\
[11:49] <Aijse> then your Linux and windows can access it
[11:49] <Dima_Sharihin> hi2all, is there anybody knows how to connect nsc-ircc with lirc?
[11:49] <daasdingo> but in school people want to plug it in for file sharing etc
[11:49] <richardcavell> daasdingo: do you have separate Linux and Windows machines or are you dual booting?
[11:50] <daasdingo> its an external hard disk, and in school we have both linux and windows systems so we always have problems with that
[11:50] <AryehGregor> daasdingo, you can always break apart a big file into a few smaller files and stitch them back together when needed.
[11:50] <legend2440> PoLL`: right click top panel chooes add to panel choose workspace switcher does that one allow adding workspaces?
[11:50] <daasdingo> well, i suppose thats the best solution, yes
[11:50] <AryehGregor> Far from ideal, but that's the state of cross-platform filesystems today.
[11:51] <richardcavell> daasdingo: FAT32 is your answer
[11:51] <daasdingo> I dont know much about windows, can it only read fat and ntfs?
[11:52] <Michalxo> daasdingo, possible to isntall plugins for ext2,3
[11:52] <Aijse> `Can't you make 1 server and let the Linux and windows pcs connect to it? Or do you need a transportable disk?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> daasdingo: ntfs will work too
[11:53] <daasdingo> I need it transportable, we have no network connection between pcs
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> daasdingo: windows can read ext2 with extra software from http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:53] <nnull> if in firefox Check for Updates is Greyed out, is the browser/box hijacked?
[11:53] <Amaranth> daasdingo: ntfs is your best choice
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> daasdingo: linux can write to ntfs with ntfs-3g
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> nnull: there is no update
[11:54] <kholerabbi> is there a ppa for Skype 2.1?
[11:54] <kholerabbi> or even a deb?
[11:54] <Amaranth> nnull: updates come from ubuntu, not mozilla
[11:54] <daasdingo> well i think I'll use fat32 ntfs sucks on a portable drive
[11:54] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, Linux can't recover NTFS journals, so it stops working as soon as a Windows user removes it without unmounting it.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> kholerabbi: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-skype-2-1-beta-in-ubuntu.html
[11:55] <nnull> ActionParsnip→ So 3.0.1.3 is the lastest ubuntu release?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: thats why you should always cleanly remove
[11:55] <daasdingo> because windows users just plug the drives off and then you have to force mount etc
[11:55] <tordt> smt@work
[11:55] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, doesn't help him if other people are using it.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> nnull: in jaunty 3.5.4 is a seperate app
[11:55] <kholerabbi> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:55] <daasdingo> ActionParsnip: but nobody safely removes
[11:55] <nnull> ActionParsnip→ Ahh... Cheers ;)
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: true but its best practice and is advised in windows, treat hardware nice and it will look after you :)
[11:56] <PoLL`> legend2440: yep ... thats the first time i have seen somethin like this
[11:56] <kholerabbi> ActionParsnip: the 8.10 skype deb works in Jaunty?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> kholerabbi: doubt it
[11:56] <Amaranth> daasdingo: linux can't fix fat32, if it needs to be checked for errors it needs to be checked for errors
[11:56] <PoLL`> legend2440: i've been using gnome for serveral years
[11:56] <Amaranth> daasdingo: with fat32 you're just ignoring the errors
[11:56] <legend2440> PoLL`: does the new one let you add workspaces?
[11:56] <PoLL`> legend2440: no
[11:57] <kholerabbi> ActionParsnip: damn. someone, somewhere must have packaged it.
[11:57] <PoLL`> legend2440: i has to be compliz messing with metacity
[11:58] <legend2440> PoLL`: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649418
[11:58] <daasdingo> Amaranth: well, but who cares about the dirty bit, normally it works ok
[11:58] <Ytxx> I am trying to remove a file .ssh and I did this "rm -rf /home/.ssh" but the folder is still present when I do 'ls -la'
[11:58] <Hitman32> how to open terminal???
[11:59] <Munna> helo i want to install libx11-dev libxaw8-dev
[11:59] <Amaranth> PoLL`: If you're using GNOME and compiz choosing Preferences should show you rows and columns and changing them should change the compiz settings
[11:59] <Ytxx> How can i remove it /
[11:59] <Ytxx> ?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | Hitman32
[11:59] <Amaranth> PoLL`: If you're using metacity it should show workspaces and rows
[11:59] <Hitman32> yop in " RUN "
[11:59] <Munna> Hitman32: lol aplications accsesories terminal
[11:59] <Hitman32> no
[11:59] <Ytxx> ?
[11:59] <Hitman32> in Run :P
[11:59] <Munna> ?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Hitman32: alt+f2   tpe   gnome-terminal   press enter
[11:59] <Hitman32> alt f2
[11:59] <Munna> not real
[11:59] <Munna> y
[11:59] <Hitman32> Ok
[12:00] <Hitman32> thankx
[12:00] <Ytxx> Anyone know how to remove a folder ?
[12:00] <Munna> Ytxx: :D
[12:00] <Ytxx> I am trying to remove a file .ssh and I did member:this "rm -rf /home/.ssh" but the folder is still present when I do 'ls -la'
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: rm -rf <folder>
[12:00] <AryehGregor> Ytxx, did you get any error message?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: it will remove the folder and all sub-contents
[12:00] <AryehGregor> Er.
[12:00] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: nope nothing
[12:00] <AryehGregor> /home/.ssh usually doesn't exist.
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: so make sure you dont need any of the contents at all
[12:00] <AryehGregor> Perhaps you meant to remove ~/.ssh ?
[12:01] <Ytxx> but I can see it
[12:01] <AryehGregor> Are you sure you gave the correct path?
[12:01] <Amaranth> Ytxx: no, that's be /home/<username>/.ssh
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: what folder do you want to delete?
[12:01] <Ytxx> .ssh
[12:01] <PoLL`> Amaranth: i have removed compiz (w. --purge) ... still same problem. And after 10 mins of usage ... i can't switch workspaces anymore
[12:01] <Amaranth> s/that's/that'd/
[12:01] <AryehGregor> Does ls -d /home/.ssh show anything?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: rm -rf ~/.ssh
[12:01] <AryehGregor> .ssh is a relative path.
[12:01] <AryehGregor> Give the full path.
[12:01] <AryehGregor> I think you're confusing /home with /home/yourusername.
[12:01] <Amaranth> PoLL`: Removing compiz is a bad idea, just disable it with System->Preferences->Appearance
[12:02] <Amaranth> PoLL`: But why do you not want compiz?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: if you run the command without the path, it assumes the pwd
[12:02] <Munna> ActionPartnership i want libx11-dev and libxaw7-dev but its saying E:Package libxaw8-dev has no installation candidate
[12:02] <julemore> HOW TO apt-get list |grep whatever?
[12:02] <PoLL`> Amaranth: i did that ... and it comes back on ...
[12:02] <Amaranth> PoLL`: I don't see how that's possible
[12:03] <Gnea> julemore: apt-cache search something
[12:03] <Amaranth> PoLL`: You selected the "None" option, right?
[12:03] <julemore> gmm k
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Julian-de: do you want a list of installed app, or possible apps?
[12:03] <PoLL`> Amaranth: yep
[12:03] <AryehGregor> (reposting) What might it mean if my machine locks up; responds to pings but SSH times out; Alt-SysRq REISUB lets me reboot with clean filesystems; but Alt-SysRq-K doesn't restart the session, and there's nothing relevant in syslog?
[12:03] <Ytxx> this is what I did 'rm -rf ~/.ssh'
[12:03] <Ytxx> and when I do "ls -la" the file is still there
[12:03] <daasdingo> Amaranth: nobody wants compiz
[12:03] <Munna> ActionPartnership i want libx11-dev and libxaw7-dev but its saying E:Package libxaw8-dev has no installation candidate
[12:04] <Amaranth> daasdingo: I do
[12:04] <PoLL`> Amaranth: like i told you i've been using gnome for server years ... this is the first time something this strange happens to me
[12:04] <Lping> Hi guys !
[12:04] <Munna> ActionPartnership i want libx11-dev and libxaw8-dev but its saying E:Package libxaw8-dev has no installation candidate
[12:04] <AryehGregor> Ytxx, do "ls -lad ~/.ssh"
[12:04] <daasdingo> Amaranth: it only makes problems with 3d apss
[12:04] <Lping> any tech guys around here??
[12:04] <AryehGregor> Ytxx, "~/.ssh" might or might not be the same file as ".ssh".  It depends what directory you're in.
[12:04] <Munna> all are
[12:04] <Amaranth> daasdingo: But I may be a bit biased, I'm a compiz developer and somewhat responsible for it in ubuntu :P
[12:04] <Lping> great :)
[12:04] <AryehGregor> Ytxx, what does "pwd" say?
[12:05] <Lping> I have a dissplay problem on Linux Mint 7
[12:05] <Ytxx> ls: cannot access /home/.ssh: No such file or directory
[12:05] <Amaranth> daasdingo: Not with nvidia and (at least in karmic) intel
[12:05] <daasdingo> Amaranth: kk ;-)
[12:05] <Lping> Could anyone help
[12:05] <AryehGregor> Amaranth, Compiz tends to mess up some things from what I've heard . . . e.g., Wine strongly recommends turning it off.
[12:05] <Lping> I posted on their forum
[12:05] <Ytxx> pwd = "/"
[12:05] <Munna> liping this should be taken to #linux-mint or #linux mint
[12:05] <Amaranth> AryehGregor: WINE also recommends turning off pulseaudio but we're getting a bit offtopic
[12:05] <daasdingo> Amaranth: wine games have never worked with compiz at my system with nvidia
[12:05] <Lping> I did try there
[12:06] <Lping> but noone is there to hel
[12:06] <AryehGregor> Ytxx, then ".ssh" means "/.ssh" for you.  If you want to remove ".ssh" from your current directory, you need to do "rm -rf .ssh".
[12:06] <Lping> help
[12:06] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Lping
[12:06] <bazhang> Lping, mint is not supported here
[12:06] <Lping> noone is able to help at the moment
[12:06] <AryehGregor> Amaranth, PA works fine if you just use pasuspend all the time.  Otherwise, yes, there are problems.
[12:06] <Lping> bazhang: I understand
[12:06] <Munna> but we support linux problems
[12:06] <AryehGregor> Amaranth, but the fact is, a lot of people want to use Wine, so . . .
[12:06] <PoLL`> Amaranth: i guess you guys never heard of a problem like this
[12:06] <Lping> but its a display GNOME issue
[12:06] <Munna> not linux MINT based
[12:07] <Munna> or join ##linux
[12:07] <baha> is there girls here
[12:07] <bazhang> Munna, Lping ##linux for linux problems ; here is Ubuntu support only
[12:07] <baha> ???
[12:07] <Amaranth> PoLL`: The only thing similar I've heard of is a problem we had for a couple of days in karmic
[12:07] <bazhang> baha, wrong channel
[12:07] <lianimator> wow, why are there 3 floodbots?
[12:07] <daasdingo> Amaranth: I dont know about the state of compiz know, but a year ago with nvidia normal 3d apss didnt work either i think
[12:07] <Munna> mmh but ubuntu is linux
[12:07] <migg> #whitesource
[12:07] <ikonia> migg: ?
[12:08] <daasdingo> Amaranth: at least opengl stuff didn't start
[12:08] <bazhang> Munna, so is debian; it is not supported here either
[12:08] <baha> Munna what is FreeBSD???
[12:08] <PoLL`> Amaranth: did u fix it? if so how?
[12:08] <PoLL`> Amaranth: i am using jaunty
[12:08] <Amaranth> PoLL`: Are you using karmic?
[12:08] <Amaranth> PoLL`: Then it isn't related
[12:08] <Munna> baha: its a unix base operating system
[12:08] <PoLL`> Amaranth: can u tell me anyway?
[12:08] <The-Mewn> i use ubuntu and i have a question.... its with the totem movie player....
[12:08] <Amaranth> PoLL`: So you go into Appearance and set effects to None and it automatically goes back to Normal?
[12:08] <Munna> baha: take this topic to another chanel
[12:08] <Munna> please
[12:08] <Amaranth> PoLL`: In karmic is was fixed with a package upgrade
[12:09] <koolhead> hmm
[12:09] <PoLL`> Amaranth: the other way around
[12:09] <Amaranth> PoLL`: Normal is compiz, you uninstalled compiz
[12:09] <PoLL`> Amaranth: from compiz desktop to normal
[12:09] <PoLL`> Amaranth: after that i remove compiz
[12:09] <Amaranth> PoLL`: None is metacity, all other choices are compiz
[12:09] <Amaranth> PoLL`: What happens when you set effects to None?
[12:10] <julemore> ty for apt-cahe search info
[12:10] <Munna> bazhang: do you know why when i try to install libxaw8-dev it shows E: Package libxaw8-dev has no installation canidate
[12:10] <PoLL`> Amaranth: some of my windows lost their border
[12:10] <Amaranth> Munna: that package doesn't exist
[12:10] <aljoriz> why can't i install ubuntu jaunty on a old pc like pentium2 but when I use 5.10 I have no problems what so ever
[12:10] <Munna> ! what
[12:10] <Amaranth> PoLL`: only some?
[12:10] <legend2440> Munna: in jaunty its   libxaw7-dev
[12:11] <Munna> oh ok
[12:11] <PoLL`> Amaranth: the others were not selectable anymore
[12:11] <eyecandy> quit
[12:11] <eyecandy> exit
[12:11] <Amaranth> PoLL`: btw, unless you reinstall compiz GNOME will not start anymore unless you have effects set to None
[12:11] <Munna> ahhh now it works thanks
[12:11] <lianimator> when is karmic scheduled to be released? exact time?
[12:11] <Amaranth> lianimator: there is no exact time
[12:12] <Michalxo> lianimator, 29.10
[12:12] <Amaranth> lianimator: there is a day though, October 29th
[12:12] <PoLL`> Amaranth: i know ... right now compiz is out and i am in gnome
[12:12] <Amaranth> PoLL`: So metacity is running?
[12:12] <Amaranth> PoLL`: You don't have any shadows or animations?
[12:12] <PoLL`> Amaranth: no
[12:12] <PoLL`> Amaranth: nothing
[12:13] <Amaranth> PoLL`: And what happens when you right click on the workspace switcher and choose preferences?
[12:13] <willy> salve
[12:13] <willy> c'è nessuno on?
[12:13] <PoLL`> Amaranth: the options where you can choose to add more workspaces is not here
[12:14] <Amaranth> PoLL`: What is there?
[12:14] <PoLL`> Amaranth: only the one where u can choose how you want to display the workspaces
[12:14] <PoLL`> Amaranth: in a row etc.
[12:15] <Amaranth> PoLL`: It doesn't have the Number of Workspaces or the names?
[12:15] <Bache> How to find the system information on which you have loaded your Ubuntu?
[12:15] <Amaranth> willy: Please don't PM without permission and please use English in this channel.
[12:15] <PoLL`> Amaranth: exactly
[12:15] <Bache> Does any one know how to find the system information on which you have loaded your Ubuntu? Please help me?
[12:16] <Amaranth> PoLL`: So all you have is "Show workspaces in X rows"?
[12:16] <PoLL`> Amaranth: yep
[12:16] <IdleOne> !it | willy
[12:16] <Bache>  Does any one know how to find the system information on which you have loaded your Ubuntu? Please help me.
[12:16] <IdleOne> willy: #ubuntu-it
[12:16] <Amaranth> PoLL`: That sounds like no window manager is running at all. Do you have minimize, maximize, and close buttons on your windows?
[12:17] <QPrime> Bache: are you looking for a hardware 'report'?  and don't repeat in the channel so frequently.
[12:17] <Bache> Yes.
[12:17] <PoLL`> Amaranth: they are missing on the ones i can see
[12:17] <PoLL`> Amaranth: the others are not selectable
[12:17] <Bache> I'm sorry. Newbie.
[12:17] <kyja> bache, you mean lsb_release -a && uname -r
[12:17] <legend2440> Bache: i dont understand the question.do you mean find out which partition ubuntu is intalled on?
[12:17] <Amaranth> PoLL`: Open a terminal and run `metacity --replace &`
[12:17] <QPrime> 'lshw' will give you a command line listing of hardware - pretty extensive.
[12:17] <Bache> No. My PC configuration.
[12:18] <dr4g> hey dudes i'm having problems installing php-pear pckage..  can someone take a look? http://pastebin.com/m22de75fc
[12:18] <bazhang> Bache, sudo lshw
[12:18] <PoLL`> Amaranth: okay
[12:18] <Ademan> anyone know what the "accepted" method for getting broadcom wireless going is these days? do we still have to muck around with ndiswrapper by hand?
[12:18] <x-tra> irc.torrentleech.org:7011
[12:19] <Amaranth> Ademan: nope, just open System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[12:19] <Amaranth> dr4g: run sudo apt-get update
[12:19] <Ademan> Amaranth: that's what I thought... a friend of mine is following what looked like an ancient tut from the wifi docs...
[12:20] <Bache> Thank you. Bye.
[12:20] <IdleOne> willy: Please ask your questions in here. to install KDE type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:20] <Amaranth> dr4g: then try again
[12:20] <The-Mewn> Im trying to play a dvd (Doom) in totem, but when it loads it, totem tells me that i need to download plugins to play it, but i can find no plugins. Anyone know where i can get the plugins?
[12:20] <dr4g> Amaranth, yep i just did that thanksd for getting b ack to me though :)
[12:20] <Ademan> The-Mewn: it's trying to protect you from the rock
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: the rock says..
[12:21] <dr4g> Is there any way to see what's inside the php5-dev package without installing it ?
[12:21] <Amaranth> dr4g: the only reason those would be 404 if you've just run apt-get update is because they had some problem
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> The-Mewn: you need to install libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repos
[12:21] <dr4g> Amaranth, its installed now
[12:21] <CopyWriter> hello my first line support friends
[12:21] <The-Mewn> how does that help me?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> The-Mewn: its what lets you read DVDs
[12:22] <noob> hi i need to know how to send sound to my bluetooth headphones
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> The-Mewn: its like trying to play mp3 without an mp3 decoder
[12:22] <The-Mewn> i need to download a program called rock?
[12:22] <Ademan> Amaranth: would someone on a fresh jaunty install need to do anything else to get that working? (an apt-get update beforehand perhaps? enabling a non default repos? )
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> The-Mewn: no, libdvdcss2
[12:22] <Munna> :@
[12:22] <Amaranth> dr4g: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/php5-dev/filelist
[12:22] <Ademan> hahahahh
[12:22] <The-Mewn> lol okay ty
[12:22] <Munna> this makes me angery
[12:22] <Amaranth> Ademan: they shouldn't
[12:23] <Ademan> Amaranth: hrm...
[12:23] <Munna> i cannot use my mouse or keybord on the remote computer
[12:23] <Amaranth> noob: install and run padevchooser
[12:23] <Munna> im using x11vnc 0.9.3
[12:23] <PoLL`> Amaranth: did not work but killing it did ...
[12:23] <PoLL`> Amaranth: i mean metacity
[12:23] <Amaranth> PoLL`: That's very odd. Well, as long as it works now :)
[12:24] <PoLL`> Amaranth: i can't explain it myself ...
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Munna: have you set the server to be view only or fully interactive?
[12:24] <Munna> i cannot use my mouse or keybord on the remote computer im using x11vnc 0.9.3
[12:24] <PoLL`> Amaranth: thx for your time dude! realy helped me!
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Munna: i'm sure theres a more graceful way to do what you want to do
[12:24] <Amaranth> PoLL`: no problem, glad to help with compiz-related issues
[12:25]  * Ademan stabs broadcom
[12:25] <Munna> ActionParsnip: i dont know how to do fuly interactive
[12:25] <Amaranth> Munna: System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[12:25] <Amaranth> Munna: turn that on, better than x11vnc
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Munna: vnc has 2 modes, check yours is running right. i dont use vnc due to it being massively excessive
[12:26] <noob> Amaranth: got padevchooser.tar.gz .... what to i have to do to install
[12:26] <Amaranth> noob: no no, install the padevchooser package
[12:26] <Amaranth> !info padevchooser
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Munna: if you are only controlling torrents of updating the system then ssh or a torrent web interface will do the task more gracefully
[12:26] <Amaranth> oops, no bot
[12:27] <Munna> actionpartnership i dont trust torents
[12:27] <noob> Amaranth: how? im a noob donno what to do with a tar.gz file
[12:27] <Amaranth> noob: delete it, you don't want that one
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Munna: so why do you need the entire desktop?
[12:28] <Munna> ActionParsnip: ? 0_o
[12:28] <Amaranth> noob: Go to Applications->Add/Remove, make sure the Show thing on the top if set to All available applications, and search for padevchooser
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Munna: if you tab complete my name it will highlight as I am highlighting yours
[12:28] <kim_> Does anyone know why sometimes at random, the shutdown window pops up and flashes, it hasn't mattered what I'm doing and there dosn't seem to be a trigger. Sometimes it will shutdown my computer and other times it will just sit there and flash a few times, go away then come bak.
[12:28] <migg> hi
[12:28] <Munna> i did ActionParsnip
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Munna: what tasks are you performing once in vnc ? what is the purpose of the connection
[12:29] <Munna> ActionParsnip: it is to test security defects
[12:29] <Amaranth> migg: Don't mention that channel here again
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Munna: in vnc do you mean?
[12:29] <Munna> ActionParsnip: but the mouse thingie wont work
[12:29] <Munna> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:29] <Ademan> hey, while i'm in here, i lose sound occasionally, requiring a restart, yet pulseaudio's daemon is still running... is there anything generic I can do to try and recover sound in those situations? restarting pulseaudio doesn't do it
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Munna: you need to set the server you are using to be interactive
[12:29] <Munna> how you do that
[12:30] <Amaranth> Munna: depends on the server
[12:30] <Amjad> ActionParsnip
[12:30] <Amaranth> Ademan: does logging out and back in help?
[12:30] <noob> Amaranth: installing....
[12:30] <Ademan> Amaranth: nope
[12:30] <Amaranth> Ademan: driver bug
[12:30] <Munna> its an ubuntu remote computer i can see it fine but cant control it
[12:30] <Munna> ActionParsnip: in the ubuntu chanel
[12:30] <Amaranth> Ademan: run `ubuntu-bug alsa-base` from a terminal to report it
[12:30] <Gnea> Munna: then you need to let it know that it's okay to control it
[12:31] <Ademan> Amaranth: I assume you mean next time it occurs, right?
[12:31] <Ademan> and, will do
[12:31] <Amaranth> Ademan: yeah
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Munna: check the settings of the server app, it wil have an option to allow it
[12:31] <Amaranth> Munna: if the remote computer is setup to allow you to connect but not do anything then you can't do anything
[12:31] <Munna> im on it right now and i checked alow others to view your desktop and allow others to control your desktop
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Amaranth: can if you can attend the system physically
[12:32]  * Ademan loathes vnc...
[12:32] <Amaranth> Munna: Ok, is that how you set it up before or were you using a different server? It is possible you have more than one server running now
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Munna: try a different vnc server app
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Munna: see if it only affects that app, or if its a broader issue
[12:33] <GuidMorrow> something isn't right within the kernel somewhere ... When I'm using the internet or whatever, the whole damn system freezes for like 15 seconds!
[12:33] <Ademan> GuidMorrow: if by the internet do you mean firefox?...
[12:34] <Ademan> or does it occur with other applications like irc?
[12:34] <GuidMorrow> no ... I mean the *entire* system
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: +1million
[12:35] <GuidMorrow> and for some strange reason, CPU temps have been in the 95F-106F range
[12:35] <Amjad> hello
[12:36] <Ademan> GuidMorrow: right, but you said "when i'm using the internet", I'm asking if you mean "when i'm using firefox" or if this occurs when you're on irc also
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> GuidMorrow: is sensors set up right?
[12:36] <Munna> ok im using diffrent users right now mine (aaronvarghese (adimin)) and my cousins (aimeegrace(un-priveledged)) now on hers i oppen a terminal and type x11vnc then her port and hostname apears (which is only for local) i go on to mine by switch user and type vncviewer tedy132:2 and her account apears i want to type stuff using the vncviewer but nothing apears i want to click on something it...
[12:36] <Munna> ...doesnt get through i wanted some help on that now could you help ! :) :(
[12:36] <GuidMorrow> this also happens when I'm trying to play video
[12:36] <Amjad> I have a problem
[12:36] <Ademan> ActionParsnip: haha, thanks, i immediately went on to call "irc" an application though :-p
[12:37] <Ademan> GuidMorrow: with what application? and where are the videos coming from?
[12:37] <Ademan> !ask | Amjad
[12:38] <Ademan> where's ubottu?!
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Ademan: irc is a protocol RFC 1459
[12:38] <vigo> sleepy
[12:38] <Amjad__> Is there any one help me
[12:39] <vigo> !vnc | munna
[12:39] <bazhang> Amjad__, ask an actual question
[12:39] <Ademan> ActionParsnip: yeah, i was pointing out my own mistake immediately after
[12:39] <Amjad__> I have a problem in the library is installed ssh2
[12:39] <Amjad__> When
[12:39] <Amjad__> phpize && ./configure --with-ssh2 && make
[12:40] <Munna> ok im using diffrent users right now mine (aaronvarghese (adimin)) and my cousins (aimeegrace(un-priveledged)) now on hers i oppen a terminal and type x11vnc then her port and hostname apears (which is only for local) i go on to mine by switch user and type vncviewer tedy132:2 and her account apears i want to type stuff using the vncviewer but nothing apears i want to click on something it...
[12:40] <Munna> ...doesnt get through i wanted some help on that now could you help ! :) :(
[12:40] <noob> Amaranth: how do i configure it to send sound to my bluetooth headphones?
[12:40] <Amjad__> -bash: phpize: command not found
[12:40] <Amaranth> noob: once you've installed it you need to run it from Applications->Sound & Video->Pulseaudio Device Chooser and change the sink
[12:41] <Ademan> Amjad__: you need to install phpize... somehow, i've never heard of that though
[12:41] <noob> Amaranth: what do i change the sink to?
[12:41] <Munna> !vnc
[12:41] <Ademan> ah, half a second of googling revealed it sets up build environments for php extensions
[12:41] <cantoma> Amaranth, thanks for the help .. the gparted was useful
[12:42] <Amjad__>  Ademan : how to install phpize
[12:42] <Ademan> Munna: ubottu is gone :-(
[12:42] <Munna> ?
[12:42] <Amaranth> noob: There should only be two of them
[12:42] <Amaranth> noob: The one it is using now is wrong, the other one is right
[12:42] <Ademan> Amjad__: install the php5-dev package
[12:42] <Terry> hi guys, i want to configure my printer, where should i go, any option?
[12:43] <Ademan> Terry: have you tried using the wizard type thing from system->administration->printing ?
[12:43] <Munna> can someone answer
[12:43] <Hagg1> Where do I report spelling-errors in Ubuntu? I think one misspelled word is to small for a bugreport
[12:44] <Amaranth> Hagg1: sounds like a perfect bug report, it has an easy fix :)
[12:44] <jado> hi, #php is overflowed so i'm asking there, where can i change the configuration of php (in particular the name of the directory in which my website is)
[12:44] <Hagg1> Amaranth: ok
[12:44] <Phate191> hi
[12:44] <szczym> helo i have following problem: i installed libgphoto2 2.4.5 from source but in jaunty is libgphoto2-2 2.4.2 so now gphoto is using old version. do you know how i could force gphoto2 to use libgphoto2 and _not_ libgphoto2-2 ?
[12:44] <Ademan> jado: it should be in /etc
[12:45] <Ademan> apache2
[12:45] <Munna> ok im using diffrent users right now mine (aaronvarghese (adimin)) and my cousins (aimeegrace(un-priveledged)) now on hers i oppen a terminal and type x11vnc then her port and hostname apears (which is only for local) i go on to mine by switch user and type vncviewer tedy132:2 and her account apears i want to type stuff using the vncviewer but nothing apears i want to click on something it...
[12:45] <Munna> ...doesnt get through i wanted some help on that now could you help ! :) :(
[12:45] <naxreo> hi
[12:45] <Ademan> egh, didn't mean to hit enter...
[12:45] <Hagg1> another question, how do I mount my iPod (HFS+) rw so I can transfer files/music to it?
[12:45] <ern8434> to change the web directory:
[12:45] <sridhar> hii
[12:45] <Phate191> hi stebi
[12:46] <stebi> hi
[12:46] <ern8434> sudo sudo gedit /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[12:46] <stebi> how many are people there?
[12:46] <sridhar> me oen
[12:46] <sridhar> sorry one
[12:46] <Amjad__> Ademan : Installation was php5 the problem still exists
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: sudo is not for gedit
[12:46] <noob> Amaranth: dude it doesnt work :(
[12:46] <Ademan> jado: ern8434's solution, without the extra "sudo" :-p
[12:46] <stebi> hi
[12:46] <ern8434> then change DocumentRoot to whatever directory you want
[12:46] <naxreo> who knows how to draw huge networks and so many servers diagram
[12:46] <sridhar> hi
[12:47] <Munna> helo can some one answer
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: use gksudo for gui apps, sudo is for cli apps only
[12:47] <Munna> !! >:(
[12:47] <bazhang> Munna, be patient
[12:47] <noob> Amaranth: keeps playing from its own speakers
[12:47] <Amaranth> Munna: Don't use x11vnc, use System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[12:47] <Ademan> ah very true ActionParsnip
[12:47] <Munna> Amaranth why
[12:47] <jado> it's seems like an xml file, i just have to change the web directory on the top?
[12:47] <Ademan> Amjad__: did you install the php5-dev package?...
[12:47] <Amaranth> noob: Then the client you are using is not using pulseaudio and you are going to have lots of pain setting it up
[12:47] <Munna> Amaranth: why\
[12:47] <Amjad__> yes
[12:48] <Amaranth> Munna: Because x11vnc is apparently your problem
[12:48] <Ademan> jado: just change the part next to DocumentRoot
[12:48] <ern8434> the command i gave works for me without problem
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: it may work but doesnt configure the environment correctly and will garage file ownerships
[12:48] <jado> Ademan: then how can i restart apache?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: here is what can happen: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/azureus/+question/72151
[12:49] <Ademan> jado: sudo service apache2 restart   i believe
[12:49] <ern8434> ActionParsnip: thanks for advice
[12:49] <Amjad__> Ademan:  Errors were encountered while processing:  fuse-utils  gvfs-fuse E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: if the wrong files get affected then a user may not even be able to log in
[12:49] <Boohbah> jado: if you want to do a proper virtualhost setup follow this document: http://articles.slicehost.com/2008/4/29/ubuntu-hardy-apache-virtual-hosts-1
[12:49] <Ademan> alternatively sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:50] <jado> ok thanks everyone
[12:51] <Riley> hey everyone
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Riley
[12:51] <jado> got to go, bye
[12:51] <Riley> i've got a little problem with eggdrop 1.6.19
[12:51] <Riley> read that the latest eggdrop has problems with creating a botnet
[12:52] <Gnea> Riley: we support general Ubuntu problems here, please try #eggdrop
[12:52] <Riley> ah ok
[12:52] <Riley> thanks
[12:52] <Riley> will try it there
[12:52] <jhayecool> #eggdrop
[12:53] <ern8434> which irc software do you advise in Ubuntu ?
[12:53] <Gnea> ern8434: software that works
[12:53] <rsk> ern8434: xchat for GUI irssi for CLI
[12:53] <Aijse> Pidgin is nice
[12:54] <noob> hi i need to know how to send sound to my bluetooth headphones
[12:54] <samitheberber> irssi for every case
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: i use pidgin
[12:54] <ern8434> im using xchat now. is there a more popular one or does it matter anyway?
[12:54] <Gnea> ern8434: it depends what you enjoy
[12:54] <jrib> ern8434: if you want something with a gui, xchat is probably your best bet
[12:54] <Gnea> ern8434: if you like it, and it works for you, then go for it
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: if you like xchat, use it. Just because an app is popular doesnt mean its better at all
[12:55] <ern8434> ok thanks
[12:55] <strange> hey guys anyone know a good guide on how to install a form of remote access for gnome so that i can use my computer myself but also have someone login that has his own desktop ?
[12:55] <samitheberber> with irc, you don't need gui, so why bother one with gui :/
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> strange: ssh
[12:55] <jrib> !vnc | strange
[12:55] <Gnea> ern8434: otherwise, you could sit there and install every irc client available and test them to see which one you like best
[12:55] <strange> ActionParsnip: desktop
[12:55] <jiohdi3> ern8434: Konversation is good too
[12:55] <Gnea> jrib: ubottu took a break
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> samitheberber: because one with a gui that I use supports the other 5 protocols i use
[12:56] <jrib> strange: search help.ubuntu.com/community for vnc
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> strange: you can run nautilus and the desktop will appear
[12:56] <strange> jrib: vnc allows their own desktop ?
[12:56] <noob> hi i need to know how to send sound to my bluetooth headphones
[12:56] <jrib> strange: yeah
[12:56] <strange> cool thanks
[12:57] <ern8434> its interesting that xchat shows chatlines starting with my name in red font. is this a standart? im using irc for the first time and coincidencely used this style
[12:57] <wazzag> noob: http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=780054
[12:57] <jrib> ern8434: most decent irc clients highlight lines with your name somehow, yeah
[12:57] <mikeg3> Hi...I have a mid-2007 (Santa Rosa) MacBook Pro; can someone point me to docs on getting the wireless to work?  Also is there an install guide for newbies specific to the MacBook Pro?
[12:57] <ern8434> jrib thats fine
[12:57] <jrib> mikeg3: search help.ubuntu.com/comminity for macbook
[12:58] <jrib> mikeg3: search help.ubuntu.com/community for macbook
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mikeg3: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network
[12:58] <ern8434> let me try myself ern8434
[12:58] <ern8434> let me try myself ern8434:
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mikeg3: you will see what wifi adapter it has and can websearch from thre
[12:58] <ern8434> ern8434: trial
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mikeg3: they usually use garbage broadcom things
[12:58] <jrib> mikeg3: though for my macbook 4,1, all I do is go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, install the wireless driver and then reboot
[12:58] <Gnea> noob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=918494 and http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=780054 seem to have good guides
[12:59] <ern8434> anyone from Turkey ?
[12:59] <WaRia_MaNieS_SMG> ix.dal.net 7000
[12:59] <bazhang> ern8434, in #ubuntu-tr
[12:59] <mikeg3> Mine is a 3,1-- I believe the wireless is Atheros, but the connection gets spotty
[13:00] <jrib> mikeg3: there should be detailed documentation on the wiki
[13:00] <ern8434> i see the server name as "Ubuntu Servers". what server is this really?
[13:00] <bazhang> ern8434, freenode
[13:00] <jrib> ern8434: it's freenode
[13:01] <ern8434> ok. i will quit and enter freenode. thanks
[13:01] <jrib> ern8434: what? This is freenode.
[13:01] <abhifx> hi there. how can i update python, i installed 3.1.1 but it still shows 2.6.1
[13:01] <bazhang> ern8434, no need; /join #ubuntu-tr
[13:01] <jrib> abhifx: run python3 if you want to run python3
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> abhifx: you may find you have both installed
[13:01] <panopticon> ern8434, you're already on freenode!
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> abhifx: try: dpkg -l | grep python | less
[13:02] <ern8434> thanks. i dont know any irc commands. i ll learn in time
[13:02] <Pici> abhifx: python 3 is a new package, it doesn't replace python 2.6.
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ern8434: there are tonnes of howtos online
[13:02] <haytazade> i m trying to get ip for an embedded device from my pc via eth2 with dnsmasq
[13:02] <haytazade> it says
[13:02] <haytazade> dnsmasq-dhcp: DHCP packet received on eth2 which has no address
[13:02] <haytazade> dnsmasq-dhcp: DHCP packet received on eth2 which has no address
[13:02] <haytazade> any advices?
[13:04] <haytazade> anyone that will help me about dnsmasq?
[13:04] <Ademan> is it possible to move a running X.org instance to a different tty?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> haytazade: set eth2 with a static ip
[13:05] <jrib> Ademan: I don't know, but why?
[13:05] <trior> Ademan:yes
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> haytazade: that suits the network adress it is attatched to
[13:06] <haytazade> i can connect that way
[13:06] <haytazade> but
[13:06] <haytazade> i want dnsmasq to give the ip
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> haytazade: is eth2 giving out dhcp/
[13:06] <haytazade> yes
[13:06] <Ademan> jrib: X.org crashed and migrated to tty9 and I keep hitting ctrl+alt+f7 and it's bugging me
[13:07] <abhifx> ActionParsnip, sorry for my late response, my net is crap. oh i did what you said but...
[13:07] <poomalai> Hello friends... I have a htc p3300 windows mobile 6. I am trying to sync it with ubuntu jaunty. I installed synce but it does not detect my mobile. can anybody help me???
[13:07] <haytazade> i listened with nc -p 67 -l -ub
[13:07] <haytazade> dhcpdiscover comes
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> haytazade: then it will need a static IP. Just like home grade routers have a static ip for the internal config page
[13:07] <haytazade> but
[13:08] <haytazade> static ip for the host?
[13:08] <haytazade> dhcp-host=192.168.3.254
[13:08] <haytazade> i wrote this to conf file
[13:08] <haytazade> still doesnt work
[13:08] <uFreaks> hi to all. I am trying to set my locale to utf8, I am trying to read a test file in terminal that is written in espanol. I set LANG==en_US.utf8 . But still when I read the file , I am getting Black diamond question mark type symbols, what should I do?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> haytazade: just a static ip for eth2, i dont think it can take dhcp from itself
[13:09] <wily> hey i've been trying to get my wireless to work and i was wondering if you guys could help me out.. first time trying to use ubuntu and i've been trying for a good 3-4 hours
[13:09] <haytazade> how will i set static ip?
[13:09] <haytazade> ifconfig?
[13:09] <tesu> wily, what is the problem?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> haytazade: you can use network manager or edit /etc/network/interfaces
[13:10] <haytazade> ok thanks
[13:10] <Ademan> trior: how? some quick googling didn't reveal anything, or not that i saw
[13:10] <wily> i just cant get my wireless to be recognized
[13:10] <Ademan> wily: what card?
[13:10] <tesu> there may not be a driver.
[13:10] <Gnea> haytazade: note the placement of the word 'or'
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> wily: if you run: sudo lshw -C network
[13:10] <wily> bcm 4353
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> wily: you will see what chi pthe wifi uses and can websearch from there
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[13:10] <haytazade> gnea: :)
[13:11] <IdleOne> bot is sleeping
[13:11] <tesu> did u open up hardware drivers, and see if it shows anything?
[13:11] <haytazade> ActionParnship: how can i start network manager?
[13:11] <Gnea> haytazade: once you edit /etc/network/interfaces, network manager becomes useless
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> wily: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[13:11] <Gnea> haytazade: wicd is a nice gui as well
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> wily: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[13:11] <haytazade> gnea:thx
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> !coffee
[13:11] <strange> ok i installed vnc but when i connect to it i just get xserver how do i make it started gdm ?
[13:11] <poomalai> Please somebody help me to sync my windows mobile with ubuntu jaunty
[13:11] <poomalai> :(
[13:11] <Gnea> !tea
[13:11] <wily> oo ty.. i've been using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%202:%20Download%20and%20Extract%20Drivers as a guide
[13:12] <wily> i'll check those two out
[13:12] <nidelius> I have messed up my gstream library. How do I check what plugins are required for webcam reinstall it or the plugins missing?
[13:14] <jrib> strange: depends on what vnc server you are using, but see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[13:15] <Organized> Hi
[13:15] <tesu> hello
[13:15] <Organized> i want to share a folder ower the network
[13:15] <Logomachist> Hi
[13:15] <Organized> it says "ask the administrator to add the line usershare owner only = false
[13:15] <Organized> how to do that? im the administrator
[13:16] <tesu> what says that?
[13:16] <jrib> Organized: it tells you the file to do that in does it not?
[13:16] <Organized> when i rightclick the folder and then -> freigabe (dont know english)
[13:16] <jrib> probably "share" Organized
[13:16] <tesu> its asking you to add the line to a specific text file.
[13:16] <Organized> yes
[13:16] <Organized> im german sorry
[13:16] <Organized> yes, but what text file
[13:17] <tesu> but i can't tell you which without knows what you are doing...
[13:17] <Organized> samba i think is it
[13:17] <jrib> Organized: /etc/smb.conf
[13:17] <Organized> thx
[13:17] <vigo> !test
[13:17] <jrib> Organized: make sure you understand what you are editing, it may have to be placed in a particular section
[13:17] <vigo> !hello
[13:17] <Pici> Please give the bot time to sync.
[13:17] <vigo> Ok, Thank you
[13:18] <Logomachist> I have a problem. After logging in, the desktop comes up but without the menu bar.
[13:18] <strange> jrib: tightvnc
[13:19] <strange> jrib: ah i see the url contains the solution thank you
[13:19] <Logomachist> I have a mouse cursor, and I have wallpaper and  ctrl + alt + delete works. The "Help" button on the "restart the computer" menu brings up the help window but without the title bar.
[13:19] <Organized> how to restart samba
[13:20] <Organized> ah okay i got it
[13:20] <Organized> thx :)
[13:20] <Logomachist> But that's all I can get to. Alt + F2 doesn't work.
[13:20] <tesu> ah, was going to ask... hmmm
[13:20] <Logomachist> Has anyone else run into anything like this?
[13:20] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi guys, everytime i burn a dvd with brasero i got this output at the end "the disc could not be mounted (max attemps reached)" here's the last part of the .log http://paste.ubuntu.com/269122/ could anyone explain it? what can i do to fix it? thanks ;)
[13:20] <matrix_> hey i have a file image.nrg i can not play it on  vlc
[13:21] <tesu> not unintentionally... (iv deleted panel on purpose before..)
[13:21] <bazhang> tesu, you wish to reset panels? in gnome?
[13:21] <tesu> you could fire up the live cd and check the files to make sure they are all there... tbh im not sure what would cause it to not start
[13:22] <tesu> no, was answering a question.
[13:22] <tesu> ^^
[13:22] <IdleOne> !who
[13:22] <vigo> IpSe_DiXiT> Try K3B?
[13:22] <bazhang> Logomachist, what window decorator are you using
[13:23] <matrix_> hey i have a file image.nrg i can not play it on  vlc
[13:23] <Logomachist> Whatever is default in Ubuntu 9.04? I only installed it a couple months ago and I haven't made many changes.
[13:23] <bazhang> matrix_, from nero? what is that file ending
[13:23] <matrix_> the file is .nrg
[13:23] <jrib> !iso | matrix_
[13:24] <dawidjj> Could Sb help me: I have cd with bads, with ubuntu 9.04 - when i'm installing the problems starts when files are copying - The cd is good enough to work as live cd - how(if is possible?) can I install  ubuntu on my hard disk - I have also live usb ubuntu 9.04 and internet connection
[13:24] <IpSe_DiXiT> vigo: first of all thatz a kde app and id prefer not to have kde libs on ubuntu, for second i dont think thatz a way to solve up issues, ive got an issue with an app and i want to solve it, not passing to another app, thatz too easy and in the end id never know what was causing that problem...
[13:24] <Trijntje> dawidjj: did you check the cd for errors?
[13:25] <dawidjj> the cd has bads, but i don't have another
[13:25] <bazhang> IpSe_DiXiT, you could troubleshoot by trying another app though, ie gnomebaker
[13:25] <tesu> dawidjj , you can install of usb if you have a big enough one, get unetbootin
[13:25] <mgv1> hi, i'm trying to register with jabber but get this: Registration Failed
[13:25] <mgv1> 409: Conflict
[13:26] <dawidjj> the problem is that this old laptop can not boot from usb
[13:26] <vigo> IpSe_DiXiT, I understand, I just thought you may need a backup set and that program was not functioning. I am still looking at the bug or paste
[13:26] <IpSe_DiXiT> bazhang: the thing is, the disc gets burnt correctly, so its not a real issue to me but still id like to understand what goes on with it
[13:26] <mgv1> hi, i'm trying to register with jabber but get this: Registration Failed 409: Conflict. what it means pals?
[13:27] <IpSe_DiXiT> vigo: the discs get burnt correctly so its not a prob, but i dont understand why does it give this output
[13:27] <bazhang> IpSe_DiXiT, understood; I avoid brasero for precisely that reason
[13:27] <IdleOne> gnomebaker is the way to go
[13:27] <bazhang> mgv1, jabber? wrt gmail?
[13:28] <IpSe_DiXiT> bazhang: what u mean? u got the same output? :D
[13:28] <mgv1> bazhang: jabber in pidgin
[13:28] <IdleOne> IpSe_DiXiT: I got something similar last week with a CD when trying to burn a music compilation
[13:28] <bazhang> IpSe_DiXiT, just loads of problems with that app; gnomebaker or just burn built into gnome are what I use generally (err nautilus I mean)
[13:28] <vigo> IpSe_DiXiT, Mine was doing a like thing, for a while, still does occasionally, I put a new Drive in and it stopped, but that is not the 'fix'.
[13:29] <IpSe_DiXiT> IdleOne: then what?
[13:29] <IdleOne> IpSe_DiXiT: use gnomebaker.
[13:29] <IdleOne> worked fine
[13:30] <IpSe_DiXiT> bazhang: gnomebaker ah? alright i'll uninstall brasero and try gnome baker out then, thanks for the tip
[13:30] <pubuntu> What file does "System > Administration > Login Window" actually modify? I'm trying to change the user that pubuntu auto logs in with?
[13:30] <hacktop> hey
[13:30] <ranasco> hello
[13:30] <IpSe_DiXiT> vigo: yeah it happens here as well, i'll just try out gnomebaker
[13:30] <IdleOne> IpSe_DiXiT: leave brasero as they probably share libs
[13:30] <homovitruvius> on ubuntu 9.04 the X server seems to die if the screensaver kicks in when the monitor has a different input selected. Has anybody seen this?
[13:30] <ranasco> any body tell me about wine
[13:30] <jrib> pubuntu: the user you mean?
[13:30] <bazhang> pubuntu, ?? is that a ubuntu-based thing?
[13:30] <pubuntu> jrib, yeah
[13:30] <bazhang> !wine > ranasco
[13:31] <hacktop> I'm wondering, could I change Kubuntu into a Gnome based one?
[13:31] <pubuntu> bazhang, yeah its ubuntu/colinux for windows
[13:31] <bazhang> pubuntu, wubi?
[13:31] <IpSe_DiXiT> IdleOne: good advice but i dont like keeping many apps, i guess when i'll install gnomebaker synaptic's just gonna re-install the needed libs
[13:31] <Sagaci> !lubuntu
[13:31] <bazhang> hacktop, install ubuntu-desktop
[13:31] <jrib> pubuntu: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/gdm.conf-custom.  Make sure you read the comments in gdm.conf
[13:31] <IdleOne> IpSe_DiXiT: fair enough
[13:31] <pubuntu> "System > Administration > Login Window." isnt installed. No its not portable ubuntu (that comes with virtualbox) or Wubi. Its the co-linux with ubuntu
[13:32] <pubuntu> jrib, thanks
[13:32] <IdleOne> !puregnome > hacktop
[13:32] <IpSe_DiXiT> IdleOne: thanks ;)
[13:32] <IpSe_DiXiT> thank you guys, cya
[13:32] <bazhang> pubuntu, never heard of colinux sorry
[13:33] <hacktop> I like the Gnome-environment but distros like BT4 are KDE
[13:33] <pubuntu> jrib, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and gdm.conf-custom dont exist, gnome-session is being started by init (pid 1) but i cant work out where from.
[13:33] <jrib> pubuntu: it's not the same as in ubuntu then
[13:33] <pubuntu> :-(
[13:33] <pubuntu> http://portableubuntu.demonccc.com.ar/ is where i got it from
[13:34] <mgv1> hi, can anyone help me with jabber message 409 at the registration with pidgin?
[13:34] <ranasco> and second I am intrested to use usb wireless broadband device but its working on windows
[13:34] <jrib> pubuntu: try their forums I guess
[13:35] <hacktop> does anyone know something about conkyscripts?
[13:35] <bazhang> hacktop, there is a great thread on that at ubuntuforums, let me check
[13:36] <jrib> pubuntu: http://portableubuntu.demonccc.com.ar/forum/topic.php?id=188 try to figure out what the autoit script is
[13:36] <ranasco> I am intrested to use usb wireless broadband device but its working on windows any body tell me the solution
[13:36] <pubuntu> jrib, thanks
[13:36] <hacktop> thank you bazhang
[13:36] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5436679 hacktop
[13:36] <hacktop> sweet:)'
[13:36] <ranasco> thanks ubottu
[13:36] <wily> man.. still can't get my broadcom wireless to work lol
[13:37] <jrib> wily: system -> adiministration -> hardware drivers  doesn't offer you a driver?
[13:37] <wily> nope =[
[13:38] <ranasco> some body says its working
[13:38] <wily> 'no proprietary drivers are in use on this system'
[13:38] <jrib> wily: ubuntu 9.04?
[13:38] <wily> easy peasy 1.5 which is based off of 9.04 i thnk
[13:38] <ranasco> I am not understand
[13:39] <hacktop> Is there also a stripped down version of Ubuntu jaunty?
[13:39] <bazhang> wily, which netbook
[13:39] <hacktop> More like the old debian
[13:39] <bazhang> hacktop, the minimal one
[13:39] <wily> hp mini 5101 . bcm4353
[13:39] <IdleOne> !minimal > hacktop
[13:39] <steven_> How do I install Direct 3D in Ubuntu?
[13:40] <ranasco> wily please tell me in detail
[13:40] <bazhang> steven_, via wine?
[13:40] <steven_> Aye, if possible
[13:40] <wily> i tried a lot of the guides off the forums.. still cant get it to work
[13:40] <steven_> VirtualBox or whatever I cannot seem to get past the boot message...heh
[13:40] <bazhang> steven_, is this for WoW?
[13:40] <wily> my network card is bcm4353 rev 01
[13:40] <steven_> Conquer Online and Lord of the Rings Online
[13:41] <bazhang> steven_, you have checked the appdb?
[13:41] <hacktop> thanks all, solved the issues:)
[13:41] <steven_> appdb?
[13:41] <Logomachist> afk
[13:41] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org steven_
[13:42] <ranasco> any body tell me pdf file convert to excel file
[13:43] <mgv1> can anyone help me with problem at the stage of jabber registration with pidgin?
[13:44] <grawity> mgv1: What exactly is the problem?
[13:44] <ranasco> any body know the software for pdf convert to excel format
[13:45] <ranasco> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[13:45] <mgv1> can any one help me? f-spot is terminated every time i make export
[13:46] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-545105.html ranasco
[13:46] <paddeltje> mgv1: I had some probs with jabber in pidgin as well. I have it now set to Connect port: 5222, Connect server talk.google.com and File transfer proxies proxy.eu.jabber.com and the option Require SSL/TLS checked also
[13:48] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. What's the command to manually start the USB tethering wizard? It came up when I connected my mobile phone for the first time using USB, but I missed the chance at the time - and now it doesn't pop up anymore.
[13:48] <ranasco> bazhang this page already visited
[13:48] <abhifx> i did update-alternatives with python and now it says no python found. help me
[13:48] <bazhang> ranasco, and what was the result? what did you try, what errors did you get etc
[13:48] <wazzag> mgv1: there is #pidgin for help as well
[13:48] <ionut_> Hey guys! Can I enable karmic's repository to install the latest version of PostgreSQL in Jaunty?
[13:49] <ionut_> will there by conflicts?
[13:49] <bazhang> ionut_, dont mix version repos
[13:49] <ionut_> *be
[13:49] <Pici> abhifx: Are you still trying to replace python2.6 with python3? You cannot do this, python3 is not backwards compatible with python2.x
[13:49] <ranasco> I need a software to convert pdf to excel format, said page not give me any solution
[13:50] <bazhang> ranasco, you would need to convert to an open office format unless you use wine
[13:50] <miguelonnnn> hi
[13:50] <miguelonnnn> please my dell mini9 fn keys won't work. Any patch?
[13:50] <ranasco> pdftodoc.exe is a windows file not for linux, I am looking linux version.
[13:50] <grawity> Pici: Unless you import everything from __future__
[13:50] <abhifx> Pici, i removed python 3, i am in deeper truble
[13:51] <ranasco> I am not intrested to use wine
[13:51] <grawity> ranasco: You cannot do a perfect conversion from PDF to a spreadsheet.
[13:51] <Pici> abhifx: Whats the problem?
[13:51] <grawity> ranasco: No matter if it's Wine, Windows, or whatever :|
[13:51] <ranasco> I know but give me the solution
[13:51] <bazhang> ranasco, be patient
[13:51] <mgv2> f-spot. it's terminating every time i make export any help will be appreciated
[13:51]  * grawity is now in the mood of giving a LMGTFY link instead.
[13:51] <metellius> crap, I managed to rm -rf all the pictures on my cameras memory card. hints on how to recover?
[13:52] <jrib> metellius: backups probably :/
[13:52] <ionut_> bazhang can I manually download the debs and install them?
[13:52] <grawity> metellius: I heard PhotoRec can recover files from many filesystem types.
[13:52] <abhifx> Pici, i used some update-alternatives and liked someplace, now python says command not found
[13:52] <jrib> !recover > metellius
[13:52] <bazhang> ionut_, from karmic?
[13:53] <metellius> its probably a fat filesystem on the card, does that lower my chances of recovery_
[13:53] <metellius> ?
[13:53] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. What's the command to manually start the USB tethering wizard? It came up when I connected my mobile phone for the first time using USB, but I missed the chance at the time - and now it doesn't pop up anymore.
[13:54] <ionut_> bazhang, yes
[13:54] <abhifx> Pici, ahem!
[13:54] <bazhang> ionut_, a very very bad idea
[13:54] <mgv2> any help with the f spot problem?
[13:54] <ranasco> grawity I am going for aftari
[13:56] <yggdrasi1> hello can somone help me install divx codecs for jaunty ppc ? i seem to be having ahard time here.. cli stuff preferably
[13:56] <rsk> yggdrasi1: install mplayer and it will work
[13:57] <yggdrasi1> hmm
[13:57] <metellius> oh crap I'm so lucky. I was having read problems when the accident happened, and it looks like the rm command never reached the actual physical storage since all the pictures are still there.
[13:57] <metellius> will respect the rm command even more from now :)
[13:57] <Pici> abhifx: There isn't an update-alternatives for python.  Did you create one?
[13:58] <ManDay> Can I uninstall pulseaudio?
[13:58] <ManDay> When I try it says that it will have to remove gnome-desktop, too!
[13:58] <bazhang> ManDay, ubuntu-desktop ?
[13:59] <ManDay> errm yes
[13:59] <ManDay> sorry
[13:59] <bazhang> that is a metapackage its okay to remove ManDay
[13:59] <ManDay> ok
[13:59] <ManDay> thanks
[13:59] <mgv2> any help with the f spot problem? it's crushing when exporting
[14:00] <Cpudan80> crushing?
[14:00] <Cpudan80> crashing?
[14:00] <abhifx> Pici, no i did this sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python /usr/bin/python3.1.1
[14:00] <ManDay> bazhang, can I safely remove libpulse0 ?
[14:01] <bazhang> ManDay, have you tried padevchooser / pavucontrol to fix ?
[14:01] <Pici> abhifx: You need to remove that, there should not be an entry in update-alternatives for python.
[14:01] <ManDay> hm, no?!
[14:01] <bazhang> ManDay, not sure about removing that, pulse works fine here
[14:02] <ManDay> i thought alsa is better than pulse?
[14:02] <abhifx> Pici, how? i dont know how to remove
[14:02] <miguelonnnn> please my dell mini9 fn keys won't work. Any patch?
[14:03] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py does? It's running the background but I don t think its usefull
[14:03] <ManDay> can i remove it?
[14:03] <Hystoriker> hello all. i have a problem on a multiple boot system. i have two harddrives. on the first i have a kubuntu 9.04 and a winxp. on the second i have installed win7 after physically removing the first harddrive. after reattaching the first drive i want to add win7 to the grub on the first hd.
[14:03] <JohannesSM64> any idea why double clicking an executable script and selecting "display" often fails?
[14:04] <Elvanor> What kernel version 9.10 will have?
[14:04] <JohannesSM64> nothing happens
[14:04] <JohannesSM64> 9.04
[14:04] <racha> Hello ... any1 can help me with C-Media Drivers ?
[14:04] <Hystoriker> i have added win7 to the menu.lst but hitting that only reboots the system without loading win7.
[14:04] <abhifx> Pici, its not in my home directory
[14:05] <racha> Hello ... any1 can help me with C-Media Drivers ?
[14:05] <nidelius> gst-inspect-0.10 gconfaudiosrc gives me: No such element or plugin 'gconfaudiosrc'... but how do I install gconfaudiosrc? reinstall gst-???
[14:05] <bazhang> racha, c-media? what is that
[14:05] <Pici> abhifx: You should look at the update-alternatives manpage.  I assume thats where you got the --install command from.
[14:06] <racha> bazhang, that is driver for my sound card
[14:06] <sergeykish> Hello, I'm filing stupid, but can'f find download link on http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libdb4.3 Can you help me?
[14:06] <bazhang> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/i386/libdb4.3/download sergeykish
[14:07] <jrib> sergeykish: any reason you aren't just using apt?
[14:07] <abhifx> Pici, although i got the command from a site, i think i will dig it up. thank you
[14:07] <racha> bazhang, u knowe where i can get drivers ?
[14:07] <bazhang> there is a link for amd 64 as well sergeykish
[14:08] <sergeykish> jrib: there is no such package in apt
[14:08] <bazhang> racha, this is Jaunty? and sound does not work? not even startup sound?
[14:08] <jrib> sergeykish: that means you need to enable the universe repository
[14:08] <jrib> !repos > sergeykish
[14:09] <saliak> anyone had any success reading/writing fromt he serial port in c++?
[14:09] <sergeykish> jrib: that version is not supported in current release
[14:09] <mgv2> any help with crushing f-spot?
[14:09] <racha> bazhang, i cant play any sonud
[14:09] <Pici> saliak: ##C++ would be the best place to ask
[14:09] <racha> bazhang, its simple dont work ...
[14:09] <saliak> yeah
[14:09] <saliak> trying that too :)
[14:09] <bazhang> racha, including the startup sound?
[14:09] <jrib> sergeykish: what version of ubuntu are you using?  In general, you shouldn't mix packages from other versions of ubuntu
[14:10] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py does?
[14:10] <ManDay> And how can I remove it
[14:10] <racha> bazhang, ya ... nothing ... btw. i use http://www.cmedia.com.tw/pci_cmI8768.html
[14:11] <sergeykish> jrib: I know, it is for compiling old source
[14:11] <jrib> sergeykish: you should rebuild the package
[14:11] <jrib> !source > sergeykish
[14:12] <Hystoriker> can anybody help me with setting up grub so that it can boot win7 on a second hdd?
[14:12] <King1> How come 1,364 people don't know how to configure the fn keys for brightness on a laptop
[14:12] <paddeltje> Hystoriker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[14:12] <bazhang> King1, which laptop
[14:13] <saliak> yeah, no luck in #c++
[14:13] <racha> bazhang, u get anything ?
[14:14] <bazhang> racha, have you checked the sound settings via alsamixer to make sure nothing is muted
[14:14] <Pici> saliak: Programming c++ (or any other language) isn't on-topic for Ubuntu support, I suggest you just be patient in ##c++
[14:14] <saliak> ok
[14:15] <Hystoriker> paddeltje: thanks. but what i have here is not a recovering after an win7-install. i have disconnected my first hdd prior installation of win7. now i want win7 as one boot-option in grub
[14:15] <racha> bazhang, ya all is on and all is enabled :S ... nothing is muted :S
[14:15] <King1> bazhang :  dv3 2102Tu
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:15] <bazhang> King1, is that a dell?
[14:15] <King1> hp
[14:16] <sergeykish> jrib: so I can't just install unsupported packages on the system, rebuild required, right?
[14:16] <jrib> sergeykish: it may "just work", but to be on the safe side you should rebuild
[14:17] <King1> everything on my laptop now works after many sleepless nights but the brightness is 140% all the time, nothing changes it....I'm going blind
[14:17] <sergeykish> jrib: thanks
[14:17] <jrib> sergeykish: you can do it in one command after adding the deb-src line for intrepid, just check apt-get's man page for --build
[14:17] <paddeltje> Hystoriker: you mean you want Win as well as Ubuntu as boot options in grub?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> King1: is there a rightness adjuster in the bios?
[14:18] <Abhi1234> how to setup Jaunty Chroot system
[14:18] <bazhang> King1, I dont see anything on the forums for that
[14:18] <Abhi1234> please Can anyone help me?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Abhi1234: ask the channel, it will reply if it can
[14:19] <trelayne> anyone know how to instal the latest version of firefox, have it autoupdate, keep my bookmarks and not have to worry too much about plugins that are already installed by synaptic?
[14:19] <bazhang> trelayne, ff3.5 ?
[14:19] <racha> Any1 here anything about C-Media Drivers ?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[14:19] <trelayne> bazhang,  yeah
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> !ff35
[14:19] <bazhang> trelayne, see above
[14:19] <trelayne> ActionParsnip, really??
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: if you add the firefox ppa you can install 3.7 but its very flakey
[14:19] <Hystoriker> paddeltje: yes. i have already ubuntu and winxp in grub, but i cannot get win7 workin with it
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox-3.5
[14:19] <Pici> !chroot > Abhi1234
[14:19] <Hystoriker> paddeltje: my fdisk -l http://paste.pocoo.org/show/139189/
[14:20] <vosti> hi all
[14:20] <trelayne> ActionParsnip,  do I have to uninstall my current version of firefox?
[14:20] <bazhang> trelayne, no need
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: in jaunty its a seperate app. in karmic its a true upgrade
[14:20] <rizzuh> hello
[14:20] <racha> I need Help ..... any1 can help me ? please ppl i cant hear anything i will kill my self :S
[14:20] <rizzuh> I have problems with sound on 9.04
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: you can keep both side by side
[14:20] <bazhang> racha, that is not necessary
[14:20] <trelayne> ActionParsnip,  that is actually awesome..  but do they share the same bookmarks ?
[14:20] <rizzuh> To keep it short: I don't have any sound.
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: can you expand
[14:21] <rizzuh> I have na HP dv5-1101en laptop.
[14:21] <the_dark_warrio> I wanted to change the master volume by a terminal command. Not like alsa mixer, which you must interact with the program, but something like "volume 50%"
[14:21] <vosti> where can i get philips 7135 tv card drivers
[14:21] <rizzuh> *an
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: yes, they use ~/.mozilla
[14:21] <racha> bazhang, what is not necessery ??? i cant live with out music :(
[14:21] <trelayne> ActionParsnip, also I have extension I used extensively...
[14:21] <Schalla> Heya ;)
[14:21] <Ytxx> any one know why I am unable to ssh to my server
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: when you run te new version its compatibilty will be checked
[14:21] <bazhang> racha, dont repeat so often, followed by a string of help me
[14:21] <th0r> racha: how are you going to do it?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: can you ssh to the localhost fro itself?
[14:21] <Ytxx> I get this error:   Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive).
[14:21] <rizzuh> ActionParsnip, expand, umm, no sound. Simple. what more do I need to say?
[14:21] <trelayne> ActionParsnip, nice! So I simply do sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[14:22] <vosti> where can i get philips 7135 tv card drivers
[14:22] <bazhang> th0r, that is not helpful
[14:22] <Abhi1234> ﻿ActionParsnip: there is not Jaunty other are listed :( can I use Jaunty ?
[14:22] <racha> th0r, do what ?
[14:22] <erUSUL> the_dark_warrio: amixer
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: ok that is an expansion, if you run: sudo lshw -C sound
[14:22] <alucard> hallo.
[14:22] <steven_> Music is an emotional crutch :)
[14:22] <racha> th0r, kill my self ?
[14:22] <th0r> bazhang: sorry...couldn't pass that one up
[14:22] <racha> th0r, jump from bridge ? :)
[14:22] <the_dark_warrio> erUSUL: thanks ;
[14:22] <the_dark_warrio> ;]
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: you will see your sound chip, you can now websearch that
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> trelayne: indeed
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Abhi1234: ?
[14:23] <rizzuh> ActionParsnip, yea, I see it, I see two actually (one being the HDMI exit)
[14:23] <racha> So here no one knowe how to fix my drivers ?
[14:23] <steven_> Music sucks! I have not watched TV or listened to music in 15 years and I am not even 30 yet! Better things ta do :P
[14:23] <|-Gobi-|> I am trying to get the display number with grep from user with tty7 like this: "w -s |grep -w 'tty7'" How do i get that ":0" <-value with grep?
[14:23] <alucard> hallo .kann mir jemand helfen? ich würde gerne wissen wie ich neue fonts hinzufügen kann
[14:23] <Pici> !de | alucard
[14:23] <Ytxx> Why do I get this error when I try to ssh to my remote server "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)." ?
[14:23] <Astine> How do you uninstall a package/program with the command line?
[14:23] <Abhi1234> I want to set up Jaunty chroot system not other like hardy, gutsy
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: does:   ssh localhost     work?  (on the server you want to ssh to)
[14:24] <djbpython> new to linux, I installed firefox3.5 in the synaptic manager, but firefox still says its 3.0, what did i do wrong?
[14:24] <Schalla> Somebody got expierence with ubuntu, ndiswrapper and problems? XD
[14:24] <Ytxx> can anyone help ?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: does:   ssh localhost     work?  (on the server you want to ssh to)
[14:25] <rizzuh> Yay for HP replacing the Linux drivers with Windows 7 ones...
[14:25] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: I can ssh as a admin user but not as Root
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Astine: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: ssh as root is disabled
[14:26] <djbpython> ActionParsnip, apt-get says i already have the newest version
[14:26] <rizzuh> ActionParsnip, I don't know *what* to search for.
[14:26] <Abhi1234> ﻿ActionParsnip: there is only dappe chroot, edgy, feisty,gusty,hardy. but not Jaunty I want that
[14:26] <djbpython> I have restarted firefox
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: sshing as root is really not advised at all, i'dgo as far as to say dumb
[14:26] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: How can I enable it ?
[14:26] <trelayne> thanks ActionParsnip and everyone, worked like a charm!
[14:26] <paddeltje> Hystoriker: Actually, I think I'm not the one that should be helping you with this; not enough technical background I'm afraid. The document I pointed you to does have a praragraph on 'Configuring the GRUB Menu' and on 'Recovering GRUB Manually'. I figure those can be of help.... Sorry!
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: the output gives a product line stating how ubuntu sees your sound card, websearch that line
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: you dont, you ssh as your user and use sudo
[14:26] <Astine> Thank you ActionParsnip
[14:26] <racha> I need Help ..... any1 can help me ? please ppl i cant hear anything i will kill my self :S
[14:26] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: ok ..I will not ssh as root but How can I enable it ?
[14:27] <racha> I need Help ..... any1 can help me ? please ppl i cant hear anything i will kill my self :S I cant get my sound cart to work
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: i dont know. all i know is it i disbaled and rightly so. evenif i knew i wouldnt tell you
[14:27] <Hystoriker> paddeltje: thanks anyway
[14:27] <King1>  ActionParsnip:  bios is okay and all the other fn keys work and everything works well in windows, there are hundreds of threads about the brightness problem but nothing has resolved it yet
[14:27] <paddeltje> Hystoriker: yw!
[14:27] <Abhi1234> Is there any difference between hardy and jaunty chroot?
[14:27] <rizzuh> ActionParsnip, actually, it lists two sound cards with a bunch of details, and for some reason, both seem to be the HDMI output, not the built-in sound card.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> King1: looks like a known issue then
[14:27] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: ok . . .
[14:27] <Pici> Abhi1234: Yes there is.  Read the page that I linked you to, especially the part that mentions http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/
[14:28] <nk> hi
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: can you pastebin the output of the command please
[14:28] <wolfwalker> Currently running Ubuntu 9.04 on a Gateway laptop.  In current Ubuntu how/where do you change latency/buffer/period size/whatever you call it?
[14:28] <AryehGregor> "latency", "buffer", and "period" all mean totally different things.
[14:28] <nk> sorry :S
[14:28] <wolfwalker> I want to play my piano realtime with low latency, but the default buffer size makes playback lag.
[14:29] <rizzuh> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/269172/
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> rizzuh: i'd shoot for SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[14:29] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: I guess I am going to rebuild it again
[14:29] <ionut_> Hey guys! Is it true that compiling the source of a program will generate a faster running binary then the prebuild ones?
[14:30] <wolfwalker> AryehGregor whichever I need to change............ how do you edit sound card settings?
[14:30] <wolfwalker> ionut_ that's the whole theory behind gentoo linux............ but the speed increase is usually not worth it.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: you never need to ssh as root, its unnecessary
[14:30] <sipior> ionut_: well, the pre-built binaries are also generated by compiling the source of the programme...
[14:30] <MenZa> ionut_: what wolfwalker said.
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: also allowing it reduces security as the account name is common and will be a primary attack by intruders
[14:30] <racha> I need Help ..... any1 can help me ? please ppl i cant hear anything i will kill my self :S I cant get my sound cart to work
[14:31] <MenZa> !audio | racha
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> racha: run: lspci | grep -i audio
[14:31] <sipior> ionut_: if you're careless in selecting compilation options, you can even make the thing slightly slower.
[14:31] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: that's why I want to know ...maybe somone else has access
[14:31] <Myrtti> racha threats wont get you anywhere
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> racha: that identifies the sound card, you can now websearch for that and you will find guides
[14:31] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: somone else changed the password
[14:31] <ManDay> can i get rid of all the dictionary stuff without having to uninstall openoffice and such?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: which password was changed?
[14:32] <ionut_> I think I will compile PostgreSQL from source because 8.4 hasn't been backported to Jaunty :(
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: i think its a dep
[14:32] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, yep, synaptic says so - but why? i dont want to use spellcheck and stuff
[14:32] <ManDay> can i force a purge?
[14:32] <rednammoc> i'm running windows on my virtual box and installed the virtual box guest additions. before i installed virtual box guest additions i pressed "right ctrl" and a menue appeared in which i could mount whatever i wanted. but now nothing happens :/ can someone tell me how to mount media ?
[14:32] <ManDay> and ignore deps?
[14:33] <racha> ActionParsnip, problem is there i cant find any guides ...
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: you could compile it to not need it but the standard debs need it
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> racha: ok can you give me the line my command outputted please
[14:33] <racha> ActionParsnip i knowe what Sound Car i use ...  - ActionParsnip
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> racha: i want to know how ubuntu sees it, not what you know/think it is
[14:34] <racha> ActionParsnip, sorry but i am new with ubuntu so u will need to explai me
[14:34] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, can i just remove the dictionary stuff and hope that ooo will not fail?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> racha: lspci | grep -i audio
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: its not a critical part, so shouldnt fail
[14:34] <th0r> rednammoc: at the top of the window is a menu for devices
[14:35] <racha> ActionParsnip, and what to copy u ?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> racha: please copy the output and paste it here
[14:35] <racha> ActionParsnip,  00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[14:35] <racha> 01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> racha: ok its a CM8738 chip
[14:35] <wolfwalker> Where do you access sound card settings like dmix period size?
[14:35] <racha>  ActionParsnip, ya
[14:35] <ManDay> ActionParsnip, can i use synaptic to perform this surgery? tell it to ignore certain dependencies?
[14:35] <wolfwalker> I want to reduce latency for realtime piano playing.
[14:36] <ecolitan> hay guys
[14:36] <wolfwalker> Hey hay hai ecolitan
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: you could use apt-get in some way. ive never done this tbh. you could just turn of spellchecking in OOo
[14:36] <ecolitan> i want to start xload with it always on top and always visible on all desktops
[14:37] <|-Gobi-|> I am trying to display value within parenthesis with grep.. eg  (ab:3123), how do i get that output that only contains "ab:2123"?
[14:37] <racha> ActionParsnip, what can i do now ?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> racha: is the sound muted in the volume controls?
[14:38] <ecolitan> |-Gobi-| you can use awk to trip the lines
[14:38] <racha> ActionParsnip, no
[14:38] <ecolitan> trim
[14:38] <wolfwalker> Where do you access sound card settings like dmix period size?  I want to reduce sound card output latency so I can play a piano in real time.
[14:38] <|-Gobi-|> ecolitan: ty, ill look it up =)
[14:38] <racha> Any1 can tell me what i need to do to install something like http://www.xmms.org/
[14:39] <IdleOne> !xmms
[14:40] <ManDay> can this be bloody true? i removed almost everything dictionary related i could without breaking essential deps and the damn dictionary still helps me finding words!!!!
[14:40] <Jack`> hi . I have a problem :D by my mistake, i made the bottom bar dissapear.. how can I get it back ?
[14:40] <ManDay> ah wait, could it be an online request....
[14:40] <SixtyFold> anyone in here installed ubuntu 9.04 on virtual pc 2007 before?
[14:40] <wolfwalker> Jack right click on the top bar and you can add bars.  Then add stuff to the bottom bar you just added.
[14:41] <SixtyFold> whenever i hit F6 it gets stuck and doesnt let me edit the command line
[14:41] <Jack`> hi . I have a problem :D by my mistake, i made my bar dissapear.. how can I get it back ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> racha: try: sudo rmmod HDA\ Intel; sudo modprobe snd-cmipci
[14:41] <SixtyFold> http://nemesisv.blogspot.com/2009/04/installing-ubuntu-904-on-microsoft.html
[14:41] <wolfwalker> Jack right click on the top bar and you can add bars.  Then add stuff to the bottom bar you just added.
[14:41] <wolfwalker> Jack select Add Panel
[14:41] <racha> ActionParsnip, all that in terminal ?
[14:41] <rednammoc> th0r: there is no top of the window, because there is now window :D
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> racha: i websearched around and found it uses the snd-cmipci module from what ive seen
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> racha: yes
[14:41] <Jack`> wolfwalker, I just tried that .. I can't find it. :|
[14:41] <calwig> Hi
[14:41] <th0r> rednammoc: RightCtrl-F?
[14:42] <racha> ActionParsnip, ERROR: Module HDA Intel does not exist in /proc/modules
[14:42] <rednammoc> th0r: nope
[14:42] <wolfwalker> Jack you have to right click in a blank area on the existing bar.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> racha: you need to remove HDA Intel first, if the command doesnt work, try finding a way to rmmod it
[14:42] <calwig> does anyone know software that can modify JPG images of faces to a more caricature or distorted funny character
[14:42] <calwig> that runs on linux?
[14:42] <xrfang> hello, how to view a list of installed packages on command line? I want to remove google desktop but it is not in synaptic, very strage
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> racha: after than, modproe in the right driver
[14:42] <rednammoc> th0r: after installing these "guest additions" all windows are included in my normal desktop
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> calwig: gimp maybe
[14:43] <th0r> rednammoc: if you aren't in full screen mode then there should be a menu bar at the top, if you are in full screen mode RightCtrl-F should get you back to windowed mode
[14:43] <wolfwalker> calwig try Gimp
[14:43] <racha> ActionParsnip, how to remove HDA Intel ?
[14:43] <Astine> Jack you can also get the avant window navigator. Which will do the same job.
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> racha: you'll need sudo rmmod but i'm unsure of the sytax, use websearching to find out
[14:43] <racha> ActionParsnip, its my first time using ubuntu ...
[14:43] <ka_> guys the volume button mute etc on my keyboard suddenly stopped working ... how do i fix this?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> racha: thats great
[14:44] <racha> ActionParsnip, ubunti its good ... but like i can see its complicated :S...
[14:44] <wolfwalker> Where do you access sound card settings like dmix period size?  I want to reduce sound card output latency so I can play a piano in real time.  If someone could direct me to a template .asoundrc file I could edit and drop in my home folder, or tell me how to make my own, I'd be grateful.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> racha: its not, its just different to what you have used before for so long
[14:44] <th0r> rednammoc: or you might be in seamless mode...RightCtrl-L
[14:44] <calwig> ActionParsnip: wolfwalker thanks ill look for a filter that can do that there
[14:45] <IdleOne> wolfwalker: #ubuntustudio may be of more help to you
[14:45] <metellius> wolfwalker: are you sure a real-time configured jack server might not be more what you want?
[14:45] <rednammoc> th0r: there is no full screen mode
[14:45] <racha> ActionParsnip, is there anything like remote desktop or Team Veawer ... so u can fix that with my Sound Card :) because i dont understand u at all :)
[14:45] <wolfwalker> IdleOne couldn't hurt I guess.........
[14:45] <wolfwalker> metellius I have bad things to say about jack server, and that's all I'll say......... >.>
[14:45] <ka_> guys the volume button mute etc on my keyboard suddenly stopped working ... how do i fix this? i now have to use the software to reduce and increase the volume
[14:46] <rednammoc> th0r: oh. thx. ctrl + l helped
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> racha: i dont advise you let anyne o yuor system like that. they may have malicious intentions
[14:46] <ManDay> can i remove language-pack-en without destroying everything?
[14:46] <racha> ActionParsnip, or maybe u can tell me step by step ?
[14:46] <rednammoc> th0r: cool. many thx :D
[14:46] <racha> ActionParsnip, sorry but i am NOOB for ubuntu :S...
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> racha: launch your favourite browser, bring up your favourite search engine, then type: how can i rmmod hda intel
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> racha: you will always be noob if you dont start trying to do stuff for yourself just one tiny little bit
[14:47] <SixtyFold> Can someone who has done it explain to me about installing Ubuntu in windows option?
[14:47] <Pici> racha: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel
[14:47] <SixtyFold> Does it let you change between windows and Ubuntu in windows or is it like a dual boot?
[14:48] <racha> Pici, sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel
[14:48] <IdleOne> SixtyFold: it's like a dual boot
[14:48] <SixtyFold> ahhh okay
[14:48] <Pici> racha: Yes, thats what I just said.
[14:48] <SixtyFold> thanks IdleOne
[14:48] <racha> Pici, Wrong Copy :)  just sec ... :)
[14:48] <wolfwalker> IdleOne I've thought about Ubuntu Studio, but the lack of live cd to test-drive it gives me pause........... Is it compatible with standard Ubuntu repos?  Can I install stuff I have in a standard Ubuntu 9.04?
[14:48] <racha> Pici, ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> SixtyFold: its like a dual boot but the OS and stuff is merely an ap in windows
[14:49] <dbfox> Hi there. new here, just got a question when configuring my new VPS ... :-)
[14:49] <IdleOne> wolfwalker: studio uses the ubuntu repos. but I suggested you go ask in there because they have more experience with the rt kernel
[14:49] <IdleOne> wolfwalker: and yes you can install all the apps you use with Ubuntu in Studio
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> racha: you could blacklist the module, then probe in the right module
[14:50] <_Brun0_> My SD card wont auto-mount on ubuntu 9.04 laptop, Any help?
[14:50] <racha> ActionParsnip, i cant find anything on Google :S
[14:50] <amine> Hello, anybody knows of a web-based IM client that supports group chat , and that is compatible with XMPP?
[14:50] <racha> ActionParsnip, how to backlist it
[14:50] <racha> ?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> racha: try a different search engine then
[14:50] <Pici> ActionParsnip: Please don't suggest for people to google answers, you should know better.
[14:50] <dbfox> I was trying to use Filezilla to login SFTP - but it's says "Fatal: unable to initialise SFTP on server: could not connect"
[14:50] <ka_> i need help the volume button, the mute etc on my keyboard suddenly stopped working .i uninstalled pulse audio last .. how do i fix this? i now have to use the software to reduce and increase the volume
[14:50] <Pici> *this* is the support channel.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> racha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=166624
[14:51] <AryehGregor> (reposting) What might it mean if my machine locks up; responds to pings but SSH times out; Alt-SysRq REISUB lets me reboot with clean filesystems; but Alt-SysRq-K doesn't restart the session, and there's nothing relevant in syslog?
[14:51] <racha> Nothing
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Pici: i'm trying to teac him/her to fish a little rather than me throwing him/her fish
[14:51] <dbfox> I have google as I can, but still don't know what's wrong with it.
[14:52] <dbfox> debug 3 message says "Server exited on signal "PIPE""
[14:52] <racha> ActionParsnip, nothing Agein
[14:53] <IdleOne> racha: Pici gave you the command a little bit ago
[14:53] <racha> IdleOne, i get : ERROR: Module HDA Intel does not exist in /proc/modules
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> racha: sudo ech "snd_intel_hda" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf
[14:53] <IdleOne> echo
[14:53] <racha> ActionParsni, bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf: Permission denied
[14:54] <Pici> And sudo doesnt cross IO redirection operators
[14:54] <d_m> does anyone know which package to install to get man pages for unistd.h, string.h, etc?
[14:54] <Pici> d_m: manpages-dev
[14:54] <mpedraza> hii
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> racha:  sudo echo "snd_intel_hda" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf
[14:54] <d_m> Pici: thanks
[14:54] <mpedraza> xrtujdxrtujdrxty
[14:54] <racha> ActionParsni, bash: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf: Permission denied Agein
[14:54] <Astine> Is surfing the web and do daily activites as a admin user a security issue? Should I create a non admin account for that stuff?
[14:55] <Pici> racha: That command wont work. use: echo "snd_intel_hda" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf
[14:55] <mpedraza> helllooo pplll
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> racha: are you copying sudo as well?
[14:55] <racha> ActionParsnip, ya
[14:55] <Pici> ActionParsnip: sudo will not cross IO redirection operators such as '>'
[14:55] <racha> ActionParsnip, i dont need to ?
[14:55] <ziroday> Astine: by default ubuntu has no root account, so it shouldn't be an issue.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Pici: really, wow crazy
[14:56] <Pici> racha: use: echo "snd_intel_hda" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> racha:  sudo -i ; echo "snd_intel_hda" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf; exit; quit
[14:56] <ka_> i need help the volume button, the mute etc on my keyboard suddenly stopped working .i uninstalled pulse audio last .. how do i fix this? i now have to use the software to reduce and increase the volume
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Pici: yours looks better
[14:57] <SixtyFold> ActionParsnip: Does it load some form of GRUB at the beginning of boot like a dual boot or do you choose it in windows, it shuts down and restarts in Ubuntu?
[14:57] <racha> Pici, done
[14:57] <racha> Pici, What next ?
[14:57] <Pici> racha: reboot.
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> SixtyFold: it loads some form of grub and you choose which OS
[14:57] <racha> Pici, ok i will come in 3-4 min
[14:58] <IdleOne> SixtyFold: as I understand it wubi uses the windows boot loader and it should give you the choice on boot
[14:58] <ub_ninad> h
[14:58] <ub_ninad> so...
[14:58] <SixtyFold> ahh okay, then I couldnt remote into that, I'll try getting the VPC 2007 thing worked out first and if not, I'll just load VMware on my remote machine
[14:58] <ub_ninad> ub_ninad exits
[14:59] <Astine> While we are talking about boot loaders. Will ubuntu continue to list new and older kernal versions on the boot list?
[14:59] <IdleOne> Astine: yes
[14:59] <erUSUL> Astine: as long as the kernel is installed it will be listed
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> SixtyFold: or you can use virtualbox
[14:59] <Astine> thank you
[14:59] <erUSUL> Astine: just make sure the "linux-image" package is instlled then remove the unused kernels
[15:00] <racha> Pici, done ... and what now i will be able to use C-Media ?
[15:00] <erUSUL> Astine: that will make sure that when a new kernel is installed the old one is uninstalled
[15:00] <Pici> racha: Perhaps, I think ActionParsnip had the module name.  I need to run to a meeting so I won't be able to help.
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> racha: sudo modprobe snd-cmipci
[15:00] <SixtyFold> !googles virtual box
[15:00] <erUSUL> Astine: but you know having a "backup known good kernel" in grub is a good idea
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> !virtualbox | SixtyFold
[15:01] <tim167> hello, did anyone here buy a computer recently? any hardware recommendations for a desktop ? (recent hardware, that I can buy new today)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> SixtyFold: google takes too long
[15:01] <ktne> hello
[15:01] <racha> ActionParsnip, WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'snd_intel_hda'
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | tim167
[15:01] <ktne> anyone here who can interpret smartctl output?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> racha: looks like the blacklist failed
[15:01] <yggdrasil> hmm, im having a hard time getting jaunty ppc to play xvid divx stuff.. any ideas ? its looking for divx-mpeg4 codec but cant find it.
[15:01] <erUSUL> racha: the line should be « blacklist snd_intel_hda » if that's really what you want to do
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> yggdrasil: have you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:02] <yggdrasil> let me check
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: bah :D
[15:02] <tim167> ActionParsnip: only 3 brands of motherboards ?
[15:02] <miguelonnnn> hi, please  1 question. I know there's a comand to show info about packages, i tried apt-cache showpkg but that doesn't help. I just want a little info about what a package does
[15:02] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: :P
[15:02] <racha> erUSUL, i just whana use my C media Sound Card and lisn MUSIC ... :( but i cant get it to work :S
[15:03] <erUSUL> miguelonnnn: is show not showpkg
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> tim167: thaat people have reported yes. the motherboard isnt the issue, its the chips and device on the board that count
[15:03] <yggdrasil> ActionParsnip: yes! its the newest
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> yggdrasil: then you may also install plugins from the medibuntu repo, this may help
[15:03] <Odo> miguelonnnn, have you tryed aptitude show packagename
[15:03] <miguelonnnn> ok i'll try thx ersul but showpkg actually works, it's just it doesn't show what the pakage does, only dependancies and  that stuff
[15:03] <miguelonnnn> nope, odo, i don't know how to use aptitude just aptget hehe
[15:03] <c0nfus3d> Hi all
[15:03] <erUSUL> tim167: p45 mobo + core 2 (quad or duo) is a safe bet afaik
[15:04] <miguelonnnn> hi confu
[15:04] <Astine> Does ubuntu have a command to make it stop raining?
[15:04] <Astine> I could use one of those.
[15:04] <racha> erUSUL, u can help me or ?
[15:04] <Odo> miguelonnnn, simply aptitude show
[15:04] <erUSUL> Astine: sudo aptitude install sunnyday
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Astine: shift+f9 in compiz ;)
[15:04] <yggdrasil> ActionParsnip:  i got the mediabuntu repo installed but .. apt-cache search doesnt show much.
[15:04] <Astine> =)
[15:04] <c0nfus3d> is there a way to change the Ubuntu default grub entry if i am recompiling the kernel using make menuconfig
[15:04] <yggdrasil> ActionParsnip: i am getting this wierd error...
[15:04] <racha> I will kill my selft ...
[15:04] <c0nfus3d> hi miguelonnnn
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> racha: run: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-custom.conf
[15:05] <erUSUL> racha: dunno what's the issue? you have an extra sound card appart from the integrated one and is not working ?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> racha: then change the line to make it start with the word blacklist
[15:05] <racha> erUSNL ya
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> racha: saing "kill yourself" is counter productive and spams the channel. please stop
[15:06] <erUSUL> racha: read up here http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/MultipleCards
[15:06] <racha> ActionParsnip, what can i say ???
[15:06] <yggdrasil> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ca/1562150
[15:06] <ska> On my Asus 901 eepc. I upgaded to Jaunty's 2.6.28-15 kernal. My wireless (wpa & wpa2 personal) is not working, and the password always comes back as numbers. rt2860sta is the driver.
[15:06] <tim167> erUSUL: thanks, so does that mean any of the dozens of mobo's that have 'p45' in their name ?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> racha: run the command and edit the line as I sid, then reboot
[15:06] <racha> ActionParsnip, edit "snd_intel_hda" in ?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> yggdrasil: you need to resolve the broken packages you have
[15:07] <miguelonnnn> thxxxxx aptitude show and apt-cache show work wonderful
[15:07] <miguelonnnn> thanks
[15:07] <yggdrasil> i guess
[15:07] <judgen> How do i lock a package so it never gets upgraded?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> racha: scroll up and read what I told you
[15:07] <erUSUL> tim167: p45 is the chipset. many manufactures make p45 mobos... just pick one of a manufacturer you trust or based on price features...
[15:07] <tim167> should i get DDR2 or DDR3 RAM ?
[15:07] <erUSUL> tim167: or ask in ##hardware
[15:07] <erUSUL> tim167: p45 is ddr2 iirc
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> tim167: what ever suits your motherboard
[15:08] <racha> ActionParsnip, u told me to run that and edit it ... but u didnt say in what to edit that...
[15:09] <lbray785> can anyone help me with compiz i downloaded the manager and put in all of my settings until restarted my computer now the settings do not work at all
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> racha: i did, i said to add blacklist to the start o the line
[15:09] <racha> ActionParsnip, maybe " « blacklist snd_intel_hda »"
[15:09] <Aijse> ActionParsnip, Yggdrasil, Can't it be that the key for a repository isn't checked?
[15:09] <tim167> ActionParsnip, erUSUL: ok thanks, i guess "Gigabyte 775 GA-EP45T-UD3LR DDR3 ATX" is not a P45 mobo although it has 'p45' in its name...
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> tim167: its offtopic here
[15:10] <racha> ActionParsnip, so it need to be "blacklist snd_intel_hda"
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> racha: yes
[15:10] <racha> ActionParsnip, reboot ?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> racha: then save the file and reboot
[15:10] <racha> ActionParsnip, ok i will come back after reboot
[15:11] <yinlong> who can help me?
[15:11] <thiebaude> yinlong, just ask the question?
[15:11] <Aijse> yinlong, possibly no one but we ll know when u ask a question
[15:11] <yinlong> i want to enlarge my C partition,but my laptop is double system with vista and ubuntu.
[15:12] <lb_> !gparted | yinlong
[15:12] <erUSUL> tim167: for what i gather in hard sites it is a p45 mobo. and it uses ddr3
[15:12] <duffydack> I thought ext4 support online resizing?
[15:12] <duffydack> I tried it with gparted and it wouldnt let me.  using an LVM setup of course.
[15:13] <yinlong> friends, i want to know whether it will destory my data in my laptop?
[15:13] <racha> ActionParsnip, ok what next ?
[15:13] <xover> guys, is there a reason why JRE6 doesnt work properly, my cisco SDM doesnt work or my etrade platform
[15:13] <sirGuest> You know how when you click on Places>   there are several folders like Documents or pictures? How do you add another folder to it?
[15:13] <duffydack> sirGuest, bookmark it
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> racha:  sudo modprobe snd-cmipci
[15:14] <Astine> I have a dual boot vista/ubuntu I logged on to vista yesterday for a few hours. Logged back on to linux and I was getting 20+ hits using udp. What are these servers wanting? Does it have something to do with what windows was letting through?
[15:14] <erUSUL> sirGuest: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs ?
[15:14] <duffydack> sirGuest, ctrl+D in nautilus
[15:14] <Astine> Firestarter is blocking them all and nothing seems serious.
[15:14] <racha> nothing
[15:14] <racha> ActionParsnip, i typed it but nothing
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> Astine:   You dident have any torrents going? or other network stuff?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> racha: it wont if it succeeds
[15:15] <lb_> yinlong: Gparted allows resizing partitions without destroying data in its regular process. Of course you should still back up your data "just in case". Do you have an Ubuntu live CD or did you install it from the 'alternate'?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> racha: try making sound now
[15:15] <sirGuest> duffydack: How do you book mark a folder? Pardon my noobiness
[15:15] <yinlong> lb_,i installed ubuntu9.04 with live CD.
[15:15] <Elvanor> How can I connect via SSH to a box booted via the Ubuntu live CD ?
[15:16] <Elvanor> it seems sshd is not included
[15:16] <Astine> nothing on linux. Just booted up, then started Firestarter. ANd there they came. I had a list of over 100 hits within an hour
[15:16] <racha> ActionParsnip, no sound agein :(
[15:16] <ziroday> Elvanor: ssh is not installed by default, you'll have to install it :)
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Elvanor: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[15:16] <erUSUL> Astine: which port ?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> racha: then ive no idea
[15:16] <Elvanor> ziroday: is it possible to do that on the live cd?
[15:16] <duffydack> sirGuest, in nautilus, goto the folder you want to add to, and ctrl+d
[15:16] <Astine> 60905
[15:16] <racha> ActionParsnip, :(
[15:16] <yinlong> lb_,do you know if i want to enlarge partition C,which partiton will be less?
[15:16] <ziroday> Elvanor: if you have internet its just the one line ActionParsnip gave you above
[15:16] <lb_> yinlong: You can boot your comp into live mode ("test Ubuntu without changing anything") and run gparted from there. I'm not sure if it's working from the OS on the harddrive
[15:16] <Elvanor> ziroday: ok
[15:16] <sirGuest> duffydack: what is nautilus
[15:17] <racha> Any1 knowe please how to get my Sound Card To WORK :*(
[15:17] <duffydack> sirGuest, file manager
[15:17] <lb_> yinlong: That depends on what you set to be smaller :p
[15:17] <ziroday> Elvanor: have fun
[15:17] <arand> yinlong: Drag the folder to the bookmarks section in nautilus
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ziroday: i think the server is on the cd
[15:17] <Taulus> j
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> !nautilus | sirGuest
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> !info nautilus | sirGuest
[15:17] <ziroday> ActionParsnip: oh I though they'd booted it off due to size restrictions. Likely to be wrong however
[15:17] <arand> yinlong: Or use the bookmarks menu, or even simply ctrl+d
[15:17] <Darcc> l
[15:18] <racha> Any1 knowe please how to get my Sound Card To WORK :*(
[15:18] <Elvanor> ziroday: what user name should I use when connecting?
[15:18] <ziroday> Elvanor: ubuntu
[15:18] <Elvanor> thx
[15:18] <ziroday> Elvanor: there should be no password IIRC, or else try ubuntu as well.
[15:18] <judgen> how do i pin a package now that /etc/apt/preferences is gone?
[15:19] <Elvanor> ziroday: neither wored :(
[15:19] <Elvanor> worked
[15:19] <racha> Any1 knowe please how to get my Sound Card To WORK :*(
[15:19] <IP-v6> what are the differences between cmd1 && cmd2 and cmd1 | cmd2 ?
[15:19] <ziroday> Elvanor: hmph, you could just add a new user with sudo useradd foobar
[15:19] <wily> sighh still cant get wireless to work lol
[15:19] <xover> which is a better browser for use with java?
[15:20] <xover> firefox it no good
[15:20] <Elvanor> ziroday: yep but would that user be able to sudo ?
[15:20] <Elvanor> (and it seems a bit stupid, there must be a default user)
[15:20] <ziroday> judgen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto should help :)
[15:20] <janisozaur> anyone can recommend cli batch image resizer?
[15:20] <Astine> Chrome is coming to Linux!
[15:20] <erUSUL> IP-v6: the first version will only run cm2 if the cm1 "succeed" the secon version (is || iirc) will do cm2 in case cm1 failed
[15:20] <Pelo> good morning,  anyone else getting trouble with nvidia drivers from this morning's update ?
[15:20] <IP-v6> erUSUL, thnx
[15:20] <racha> Any1 knowe please how to get my Sound Card To WORK :*(
[15:20] <duffydack> janisozaur, imagemagick
[15:20] <erUSUL> janisozaur: convert/mogrify from imagemagick
[15:20] <ziroday> Elvanor: yes the default livecd user is "ubuntu", and as far as I know it has no password. Now I'm not sure whether ssh will like that or not
[15:20] <janisozaur> Astine: chrome already is available for linux for quite a long time
[15:21] <Pelo> !sound > racha
[15:21] <Astine> =/ Really?
[15:21] <Pelo> brb
[15:21] <Astine> janisozaur: how do I install it?
[15:21] <xover> if java is platform free then why dont the apps work with firefox
[15:21] <thiebaude> Astine, it runs great, but not ready yet
[15:21] <erUSUL> xover: you installed sun-java6-plugin ?
[15:21] <duffydack> xover, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[15:22] <sirGuest> I created an ad-hoc network and I cant remove from the list of available networrks. My computer keeps randomly switching. How do I remove it from the list?
[15:22] <ziroday> xover: have you installed java?
[15:22] <duffydack> erUSUL, lol i`m always 1 second behind you.
[15:22]  * duffydack gets mavis beacon typing tutor out
[15:22] <erUSUL> duffydack: XD
[15:22] <coz_> hey guys any way to  get php-gtk in ubuntu
[15:22] <xover> yeah, im running cisco sdm and etrade trading platform and half the menus dont work
[15:22] <xover> when i boot a windowsxp vm they work
[15:22] <janisozaur> Astine: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_dev.html?dl=unstable_amd64_deb
[15:23] <janisozaur> Astine: that's for amd64
[15:23] <erUSUL> xover: make a bug report. ubuntu will forward that to Sun (Oracle) hopefully
[15:23] <Astine> janisozaur: Thanks. I will look into it.
[15:24] <janisozaur> Astine: for more info look here http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel
[15:24] <yinlong> lb_,you mean if my C partition is bigger,another partiton is smaller,not all of the other partitions are smaller?
[15:24] <janisozaur> Astine: also check http://www.ghacks.net/2009/09/02/enable-flash-and-use-themes-in-google-chrome-linux/ for how to enable flash and other plugins
[15:24] <Ziber> How can I changed the default time zone for my box?
[15:25] <erUSUL> Ziber: system>Administration>date and time
[15:25] <Ziber> erUSUL: CLI only. I'm ssh'ing.
[15:25] <lb_> yinlong: check your PMs
[15:25] <Elvanor> ziroday: I just changed the apsswd of the ubuntu user.
[15:25] <sirGuest> I created an ad-hoc network and I cant remove from the list of available networrks. My computer keeps randomly switching. How do I remove it from the list?
[15:25] <ziroday> Elvanor: okay
[15:25] <Elvanor> And now works.
[15:25] <ziroday> Elvanor: awesome!
[15:26] <Ziber> I need to change the default timezone via CLI.
[15:26] <Halitech> Ziber, tzdata should do it
[15:26] <Lancien>  Cooool
[15:26] <nagyv> hi! I've an old mp3 player (Mercury iXA-520i) that I would like to connect to my laptop. After plugging them together the mp3 player starts charging its battery, but it doesn't show up as a hard drive. I've tried lsusb and dmesg as well, but they show nothing. Could someone help me with this, please?
[15:26] <Halitech> Ziber, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:26] <kim_> my system shuts down at random and or trys to reboot
[15:27] <lb_> yinlong: /away
[15:27] <erUSUL> Ziber: sudo tzselect ?
[15:27] <cfedde> any thoughts on using ssd on an ubuntu desktop?  should I be disabling swap?
[15:27] <Ziber> :) thanks
[15:27] <lb_> yinlong: Have you tried running gparted yet? It's quite straight-forward
[15:27] <Ziber> Now, with bind, my DNS server is rejecting commands from itself.
[15:28] <yinlong> lb_i am trying it.
[15:28] <matthewbpt> cfedde: yes disable swap
[15:28] <lb_> yinlong: You can try changing your setup without actually changing anything to get a feeling for it
[15:28] <cornet> Ziber: you really want to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:28] <yinlong> lb_,how to make it?
[15:28] <Ziber> cornet: just did.
[15:28] <ansis> Hi, could anyone help to troubleshoot why my Ubuntu 9.04 automatically reboots 9 times of 10 during the Boot-Up? And quite oftenly freezes.
[15:28] <h1d> Hello. I just read that the game "tetris" is licensed by "the tetris company" but did gnometris get a license from them or it thinks that it doesnt violate any of their licenses?
[15:29] <Halitech> ansis, can you boot from the cd and run memtest and see if its bad ram
[15:29] <cornet> matthewbpt: can i ask your reason for disabling swap ?
[15:29] <Anirban1987> How to change tables from innodb to myisam using phpmyadmin ?
[15:29] <ansis> Halitech, I did the memtest, it finished without errors.
[15:29] <h1d> for the company : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tetris_Company
[15:29] <matthewbpt> it stresses the ssd and decreases its lifetime
[15:29] <erUSUL> Ziber: seems that the correct command is tzconfig ...
[15:30] <Halitech> ansis, how far does it get in the boot before it reboots?
[15:30] <matthewbpt> you should also use a ramdisk for /tmp
[15:30] <lb_> yinlong: You see the names on the bars representing the partitions, right? I'll boot into the live cd, too
[15:31] <KRyPTyK> Good morning all. Does anyone have any experience using FOG imaging on Ubuntu?
[15:31] <royyer33> hola
[15:31] <yinlong> lb_,i don't know how to enlarge my C with gparted.
[15:32] <ansis> Halitech, right after I choose the OS from Grub loader
[15:32] <lb_> do you know which name your partition C has? (something like sda1/sda2/sdc1)
[15:32] <clj2289_> hi, I'd like to run postgresql 8.4, but that's only in the 9.10 release, is there an easy way of using a backport of the postgresql package or am I better off running the alpha version of ubuntu if I want to use the packages that are bundled in that release...
[15:32] <Halitech> ansis, do you have windows installed and does it boot?
[15:32] <ansis> Halitech, I do not have windows.
[15:33] <yinlong> lb_,dev/sda1.
[15:33] <Halitech> ansis, ok ... can you boot an older kernel?
[15:33] <cornet> matthewbpt: i'm really not convinced on that argument at all - linux on workstation genreally only starts hitting swap when i fill my RAM up. if you were to fill ram up with no swap then the kernel may start to kill off random processes in an attemtpt to gain some memory back (and it's often not that intelligent about it)
[15:34] <ansis> Halitech, nop the same applies to older kernels. Where to diagnose Hard Disk errors?
[15:34] <matthewbpt> swap still gets filled up even when ram isnt full...
[15:34] <thiebaude> !swap
[15:34] <cornet> matthewbpt: a better solution IMO would be to set vm.swappiness accordingly so it doesn't hit the swap
[15:34] <Halitech> ansis, might want to look into ultimate boot cd to test the drive
[15:35] <matthewbpt> cornet: true you could do that too, but i chose to disable swap because also the ssds have less disk space, so the space is more precious
[15:35] <yinlong> lb_,and then?
[15:35] <lb_> yinlong: have you tried rightclicking on /dev/sda1 in gparted and the "
[15:35] <zww> i
[15:35] <lb_> yinlong: "Size/Remove"?
[15:36] <lb_> yinlong: Resize/Move, of course
[15:36] <lb_> yinlong: then there's the dialog. You cannot make it bigger from here, I suspect since another partition ought to start right thereafter
[15:36] <yinlong> lb_,i don't the mark of Resize/Move.
[15:37] <KRyPTyK> Does anyone have any experience using FOG imaging on Ubuntu?
[15:37] <lb_> yinlong: what do you mean?
[15:37] <yinlong> lb_,sorry,i mean i don't see the mark of Resize/Move .
[15:37] <ansis> Halitech, actually I am thinking that this might be a Hardware error. Right now It booted! I bet that after 10minutes it will freeze again. Where to look for bootup error logs?
[15:38] <Halitech> ansis, /var/logs
[15:38] <kudi> does any1 here use comcast broadband...what download upload speed do you limit your bandwidth so that they wont throttle or disconnect you
[15:38] <yinlong> lb_,i mean the choice Resize/Move is dark!
[15:38] <Ziber> http://zpaste.org/115 <-- Does anyone know what that means and how to correct it? (This is from my secondary DNS server which I'm trying to set up)
[15:39] <lb_> yinlong: Are you using Ubuntu as LiveCD?
[15:39] <yinlong> lb_,no,i am in real ubuntu
[15:40] <ansis> Halitech, Ok, this line looks suspicious gdmgreeter[3020]: segfault at 13a ip 00007fadf3bfbaa3
[15:40] <Sidewinder1> kudi> I don't have comcast, :-) but I've read they look closely at the upload; what speed triggers action I don't know. Perhaps you could look into Verizon.
[15:40] <lb_> yinlong: If not, make sure you are running gparted with root rights and that you do have selected the right partition. How does it look for you? Here's a screenshot of my gparted: http://i25.tinypic.com/euilao.gif
[15:40] <shivek> sudo dpkg -l | grep <NAME OF THE PROGRAM>    , what is the significance of result ?
[15:41] <yinlong> lb_,let me see
[15:41] <Halitech> ansis, I used to see similiar errors when I was using a drive that was dying
[15:42] <ansis> Halitech, that Ultimate Boot CD will verify this?
[15:42] <ansis> (the HDD)
[15:42] <Dunge> I'm on Ubuntu, I use a terminal and "cp" to copy a directory from my ext3 drive to a sdcard with a vfat partition. Why does CASE change for half of the files?! (KMH.PNG becomes kmh.png, but Radar.PNG stay Radar.PNG)
[15:43] <Halitech> ansis, it should
[15:43] <wily> if anyone can help me with my wifi i posted on the forums. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1263730 thanks for all the help thus far
[15:43] <yinlong> lb_,i forgot telling you that my C is ntfs,which is unreadable in gparted.
[15:43] <{g}> Hey People! Whats a good way to transfer a folder to another machine? Is `tar -cvvOf folder | nc -lp80` a good idea?
[15:43] <lb_> yinlong: it shouldn't be. Which Ubuntu did you say you were using?
[15:43] <erUSUL> Dunge: vfat has weird "modes" to decide what it converts or not
[15:43] <kim_> can any one tell me how to fix / or stop computer from reloging in
[15:43] <sipior> {g}: "scp -r" is slightly simpler :-)
[15:44] <erUSUL> Dunge: see the mout man page the vfat section
[15:44] <yinlong> lb_,ubuntu9.04
[15:44] <lb_> yinlong: nfts support has long been a part. It's only the other way round that windos can't read ext
[15:44] <Dunge> erUSUL : ok
[15:44] <ansis> Halitech, ok thanks, I will try it out
[15:44] <yinlong> lb_,how can i give you a printscreen?
[15:45] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[15:45] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[15:45] <lb_> yinlong: show it
[15:45] <yinlong> lb_,can i send it to you directly?
[15:45] <lb_> yinlong: oh. press the [PrtScr] key on your keyboard and gnome-screenshot should offer you a dialogue. You can try.
[15:46] <josvuk> Hi, How someone can mount HFS+ Filesystems on Ubuntu?
[15:46] <erUSUL> josvuk: mount -t hfsplus /dev/whateve /mount/point ?
[15:47] <kimec1> sombedy who could help me with pulseaudio+SDL?
[15:47] <nickolaus> I'm looking for tools and schemes to help organize my ubuntu install. I don't want anything on my desktop. any ideas?
[15:47] <thevdi> Hi. I'm trying to launch Virtualbox (headless) from a script at logon (via /etc/init.d/rc.local). If I "run" /etc/init.d/rc.local, it starts Virtualbox but if I reboot, it doesn't. Anyone suggest what might be wrong?
[15:47] <nanotube> nickolaus: just take everything fro myour desktop, and stick it into your documents dir, and voila, clean desktop...
[15:48] <yinlong> lb_,how to send it to you?
[15:48] <sipior> thevdi: did you supply the full path to virtualbox in rc.local?
[15:48] <grawity> yinlong: yfrog.com
[15:48] <lb_> yinlong: if you can't dcc, just upload it to tinypic or some image hoster
[15:49] <lb_> yinlong: this is how gparted could look like after some changes: http://img5.yfrog.com/img5/3051/vm2r.gif
[15:49] <thevdi> sipior, no. I can see why that is important ;-)
[15:50] <duffydack> thevdi, its /etc/rc.local
[15:50] <duffydack> isnt it?
[15:50] <thevdi> duffydack, are you sure? OK, I'm actually using Mint but it should be the same, right?
[15:50] <yinlong> lb_,but i don't know how to upload the image into a url,i don't have a website myself.
[15:50] <duffydack> im not too good with that stuff
[15:50] <duffydack> thevdi, well thats what ive used in the past
[15:51] <duffydack> thevdi, it will be,yes
[15:51] <sipior> duffydack: both exist. /etc/rc.local is run, if it exists.
[15:51] <thevdi> duffydack, in some of the examples I've seen, it's said about /etc/init.d/rc.local. Do you know what the difference might be ?
[15:52] <sipior> duffydack: to be clearer, the job of /etc/init.d/rc.local is to run /etc/rc.local :-)
[15:52] <duffydack> thevdi, no idea. all I know is I used /etc/rc.local when I had something startup
[15:52] <kim_> hello can some one give me directions on what to do to stop random re loging in and out 9.4
[15:52] <Sidewinder1> yinlong>Depending on your IRC client, try right clicking on lb_'s nick then click on "send file"
[15:52] <thevdi> sipior, which is best to use for startup? Or doesn't it matter ?
[15:52] <Dunge> erUSUL : As I see, fat will always fuck up names if it's all in uppercase of all in lower case, wheter I use any shortname mode... that's crappy
[15:52] <sipior> thevdi: you'll want to use /etc/rc.local
[15:53] <thevdi> sipior, ok, thanks. I'll try it with the full path, too. Thanks all
[15:53] <erUSUL> Dunge: the price for MS compatibility i guess
[15:54] <Dunge> erUSUL : When I create a file in windows all in uppercase, it don't transform it automatically on mount..
[15:54] <yinlong> lb_,get it.
[15:54] <Dunge> only linux mount do that
[15:54] <sipior> kim_: what do you mean by random logging in and out?
[15:54] <Dunge> kinda strange if you ask me
[15:55] <Dunge> "Display the short name as is; store a long name when the short name is not all upper case."
[15:55] <erUSUL> Dunge: dunno what to add. there is some reason i'm sure for this
[15:55] <yinlong> lb_,i am sending the printscreen to you,please receive it.
[15:55] <Dunge> Windows always keep long names, and don't check about the case
[15:55] <Dunge> I don't care about 1950's dos compatiblity
[15:56] <Chaz> I removed myself from the admin group on axident and now I can't use sudo. How can I fix this?
[15:56] <kim_> it dosent matter what i am doing (emialing or watching movie it just sudenly goes to login window of ubuntu startup
[15:56] <erUSUL> Chaz: boot into recovery mode add yourself again to admin
[15:56] <revygttam> Hi, trying to setup WinXP in virtualbox.  When trying to boot the XP it never gets past the "Safe Mode/Last known config" Selection screen, looks like it wants to load but just hangs.  Any ideas?
[15:57] <sipior> kim_: new install?
[15:57] <Chaz> erUSUL: How do I get into recovery mode? This computer does not have a cdrom I used a thumb drive to install ubuntu with a net install. Also I have full disk encryption enabled.
[15:57] <Sidewinder1> kim_>Sounds like it may be a hardware issue (RAM?). Have you tried "memtest at boot?
[15:57] <erUSUL> Chaz: from the grub menu
[15:57]  * Chaz tests
[15:57] <erUSUL> Chaz: there are two entries for each kernel version one is nomrmal the other is recovery
[15:58] <kim_> 3 time with this setup blame crook dvd burner for past problems
[15:59] <Sidewinder1> kim_>Did you do an "md5sum" on the ISO, prior to burning?
[15:59] <zhobbs> how do I get a list of the files installed for a certain package?
[15:59] <kim_> yes
[15:59] <erUSUL> zhobbs: dpkg -L packagename
[15:59] <zhobbs> thanks
[16:00] <Sidewinder1> kim_>Did you try cleaning any dust out of burner? These are just wild ass guesses. :-)
[16:01] <kim_> so far it seems to be working well but at odd and inconventi times it logs out
[16:01] <St3v3Rx> Accessibility Links
[16:01] <thevdi> sipior, are you still here?
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[16:01] <sipior> thevdi: yep
[16:01] <FloodBot1> St3v3Rx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <kim_> no i dis conectided it
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[16:02] <Halitech> kim_, does it just log out or completely reboot?
[16:02] <Sidewinder1> kim_>Do you blame the DVD burner? New ones (name brand) are only about $35.00 @Newegg.com
[16:02] <kim_> no just logs out
[16:03] <thevdi> sipior, I added '/usr/bin/VBoxHeadless -startvm "3b86e497-24fd-4a81-ae5b-4d0a0abd476d"' to my /etc/rc.local and it starts if I "execute" /etc/rc.local but it doesn't start after a reboot. Could you say what is wrong, please?
[16:03] <Sidewinder1> And it terms of time, it's totally random, ie: always different times?
[16:04] <sipior> thevdi: could you pastebin the whole /etc/rc.local?
[16:04] <kim_> and again
[16:04] <sipior> kim_: is it always the same amount of time between logouts?
[16:04] <kim_> no just really random
[16:04] <Sidewinder1> WOW, that's a "stumper" and beyond my abilities to help; very sorry...
[16:04] <yggdrasil> how can i check wich version of ubuntu im on ?
[16:05] <thevdi> sipior, http://pastebin.com/m1fd2a887
[16:05] <olde_yellar> kim_: what happens?
[16:05] <nanotube> yggdrasil: lsb-release
[16:05] <olde_yellar> sorry late into the chat...
[16:05] <Uuu> yggdrasil: lsb_release -a
[16:05] <yggdrasil> thanks
[16:05] <nanotube> yggdrasil: or: cat /etc/issue
[16:05] <Sidewinder1> kim_>Have you tried posting this at: http://ubuntuforums.org ?
[16:05] <kim_> it just goes blank then logs in agian
[16:06] <sipior> thevdi: and the execute permission bit is set for etc/rc.local?
[16:06] <thevdi> sipior, I was running this command inside another script but I thought I'd 'cut out the middleman'. Also, does it need a "nohup" ?
[16:06] <olde_yellar> kim_:your computer?
[16:06] <kim_> yes
[16:06] <sipior> thevdi: you'll have to check the documentation for the preferred means of headless invocation.
[16:06] <thevdi> sipior, flags are: -rwxr-xr-x
[16:07] <olde_yellar> kim_:Aha.
[16:07] <Halitech> kim_, what video card?
[16:07] <olde_yellar> what kind of graphics card do you have?
[16:08] <trainer> I am trying to update an old ubuntu machine I haven't used in a year, running 7.04. I click Reload in Synaptic, check progress of individual files, and they all whiz past with a status of Failed.
[16:08] <Halitech> !eol | trainer
[16:08] <Chaz> Can someone please type the command 'groups' and paste me all the groups that their default user for ubuntu 9.04 system is in?
[16:09] <Halitech> trainer, 7.04 is eol so you can't update with the repo list you have currently
[16:09] <sipior> thevdi: you might try redirecting stdout and stderr to /dev/null.
[16:09] <thevdi> sipior, how do I do that? Also, should I have a message in the log as to why it isn't starting?
[16:10] <trainer> Halitech, so now what? Upgrade from a newer cd? Manually change the repo list? Reinstall?
[16:10] <Chaz> Can someone who is running Ubuntu 9.04 and who is logged in with the default admin user type 'groups' and paste me all the groups the user is in?
[16:11] <sipior> thevdi: try sticking a "&> /dev/null" at the end.
[16:11] <Halitech> trainer, not going to be able to update unless you get the 7.10 and 8.04 alt install cds, I would just get a copy of 8.04 and install that
[16:12] <thevdi> sipior, ok thanks. I believe this script is run as root so the permissions are OK, yes? I just find it odd that I can run it via sudo without problems but it never runs at boot up.
[16:12] <sipior> thevdi: permissions are fine, yes.
[16:13] <thevdi> sipior, is there any way of starting that 'runlevel' without rebooting each time ?
[16:13] <unr3a1> hey all
[16:13] <unr3a1> how do I see what wireless card I have?
[16:13] <kim_> is intell celeron 2gig ram 500gig hard drive 250windows 250 ubuntu 9200 se 128mb graphics card
[16:13] <unr3a1> isn't it lspci or something?
[16:13] <sunshinepants> unr3a1: iwconfig
[16:13] <Halitech> unr3a1, lspci or lsusb
[16:13] <sipior> thevdi: man telinit.
[16:13] <Sidewinder1> unr3a1>sudo lshw
[16:13] <trainer> Halitech, why not 9.04?
[16:14] <unr3a1> ty
[16:14] <lb_> Chaz: This is from the live cd:  ubuntu adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[16:14] <Halitech> unr3a1, some laptops will have the wireless running through usb
[16:14] <Chaz> lb_: Thank you.
[16:14] <Halitech> trainer, if your hardware will run it then sure ... do you know what video card is in it?
[16:14] <unr3a1> lspci showed it
[16:14] <unr3a1> thanks
[16:14] <trainer> A decent ATI radeon
[16:14] <thevdi> sipior, ok, thanks
[16:15] <Halitech> trainer, what model? ati dropped support for alot of cards recently
[16:15] <olde_yellar> kim_: are you using the ATI drivers or opensource ones?
[16:16] <kim_> I havent actually installed any drivers myself
[16:16] <cF`Zuz|Work> #windows
[16:16] <kim_> it just seems to run lol
[16:16] <cF`Zuz|Work> ooops
[16:16] <snuitje> hello, i installed apache and libapache2-mod-perl2 but when i try to open a perl script it's downloaded not executed
[16:16] <snuitje> am i in the right channel for this?
[16:17] <madubla> hola!
[16:17] <revygttam> I cant seem to get a new install of XP to load in Virtualbox, anyone able to help?
For what?
[16:17] <snuitje> Sidewinder1: trouble with libapache2-mod-perl2
[16:17] <olde_yellar> kim_: right so it is the opensource drivers...
[16:17] <kim_> yes
[16:18] <olde_yellar> hrmmm
[16:18] <Sidewinder1> snuitje>I htink so, but I can't help with that, sorry...
[16:18] <snuitje> Sidewinder1: thas ok
[16:18] <alazyworkaholic> Is there a way for me to know if my cd-rw/dvd-rw discs are defective & rule out software problems. 9.10 alpha 5 won't load.
[16:18] <trainer> Halitech, I think its 7000
[16:19] <olde_yellar> kim_: could you check the output of /var/log/xorg.log?
[16:19] <trainer> Halitech, Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]
[16:20] <Halitech> trainer, nice card but unsupported now, I'd go with 8.04
[16:20] <revygttam> alazyworkaholic: what happens when you try to load it?
[16:20] <olde_yellar> kim_: you might have to look a ways back, it could have a lot of output becasue of you having logged in...
[16:20] <kim_> There is alot, what am I looking for ?
[16:20] <Halitech> trainer, basically anything below the HD2400 is unsupported now
[16:21] <trainer> Halitech, Thanks I am dl'ing 8.04 now
[16:21] <olde_yellar> kim_: lets see,,,
[16:22] <rapha> what is that file rescue program called again?
[16:22] <Sidewinder1> rapha>Testdisk?
[16:23] <rapha> YES! thanks Sidewinder1
[16:23] <Sidewinder1> NP
[16:23] <alazyworkaholic> revygttam: It varies a little. Sometimes the screen with the logo & progress bar just freezes, sometimes it spits out error messages & a kernel panic. On a laptop it made the caps/num lock leds flash. I have one cd-rw disk & I'd like to know if there's a linux program that checks whether it's damaged or not. (no significant visible scratches)
[16:23] <rubik_> sun-java6-bin update, 27mb ???
[16:24] <Chaz> Anyone running Ubuntu 9.04 right now and have a shell open?
[16:24] <olde_yellar> kim_: try this: 'grep error /var/log/Xorg.log' without the single quotes (in my case it is Xorg.0.log)
[16:24] <snuitje> chaz: year
[16:24] <Chaz> snuitje: Type 'groups' and paste me what it spits out.
[16:24] <Sidewinder1> alazyworkaholic> IF you can get the live CD to boot, there should be a "Check disk for errors" menu choice.
[16:25] <spozen_> were can i find the log that is created after installtion?
[16:25] <snuitje> dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev snuitje
[16:25] <Uuu> spozen_: it could be /var/log/installer
[16:26] <Uuu> in*
[16:26] <kim_>  grep error /var/log/Xorg.0.log    =  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[16:26] <snuitje> on my desktop i get this: snuitje adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[16:26] <revygttam> alazyworkaholic: Its hard to say, i had an issue like that once and it turned out that my cdrom drive was actually going bad... it was strange too because some cd's worked, others didnt.  Have you tried burning on a different brand of cd to test?
[16:26] <kim_> I've found the log manually but...
[16:27] <olde_yellar> kim_: but
[16:27] <zebrafusion> question
[16:27] <kim_> what am i supposed to do with it ?
[16:27] <zebrafusion> where else are repos stored besides /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:27] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[16:27] <zebrafusion> W: Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg  Could not connect to wine.budgetdedicated.com:80 (81.171.111.247). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[16:27] <grawity> zebrafusion: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:27] <zebrafusion> I keep getting that error
[16:27] <zebrafusion> grawity: thx my friend
[16:27] <olde_yellar> kim_: just trying to see what errors are there, if any... because sometimes X crashes in a similar way yours does...
[16:28] <olde_yellar> kim_: you have no errors there... try the same for /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/messages
[16:28] <racha> Any1 can help me With Sound Drivers ? i cant get them to Work ?
[16:29] <juannicolas> Hi can someone tell me how do I set this permission: drwxr-s---
[16:29] <juannicolas> please
[16:29] <juannicolas> chmod xx ?
[16:29] <racha> Can any1 please help me with Seting Up http://www.cmedia.com.tw/pci_cmI8768.html
[16:30] <kim_> Sep 11 21:29:17 kim-desktop gdm[2907]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[16:30] <olde_yellar> kim_: that might just be what we are looking for :)
[16:31] <kim_> Ok then
[16:31] <kim_> That error has appeared several times
[16:32] <Sidewinder1> racha> Their website specifically stated "(Microsoft DirectX V.8.1 above is required) " Don't know weather there is a work-around for that.
[16:33] <sipior> juannicolas: try "chmod u=rwx,g=rs <filename>"
[16:33] <olde_yellar> kim_: what version of Ubuntu?
[16:33] <kim_> 9.10
[16:34] <racha> Sidewinder, And now its imposible to get it to Work :S ?
[16:34] <parapanghelescu> Hi there brothers and sisters! can someone recommend me a software for cataloging multimedia files, mp3, mkv, etc ...smth like gnomecatalog but a little bit more ....has to have the ability to "read" all the files from the HDD
[16:34] <racha> Sidewindwr, i fucked up my money on it and 5.1 Sound Sistem ?
I don't have a clue but it doesn't look promising... :-(
[16:34] <Halitech> racha, what does lspci show?
[16:34] <marek_> hello
[16:35] <racha> Halitech, i am new with ubuntu so ... u will need me what to do and i wil give u back informations
[16:35] <Halitech> racha, open a terminal and type in lspci then use !pastebin to give us the info
[16:36] <olde_yellar> kim_: yikes you go on the edge huh? Alpha 5 or earlier?
[16:36] <Halitech> !pastebin | racha,
[16:36] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[16:36] <racha> !pastebin
You might try posting in: http://ubuntuforums.org  There maybe some folks that are using that chip successfully in ubuntu.
[16:37] <kim_> sry its 9.04
[16:37] <whileimhere> Hi I want to install Netbook remix onto a netbook. Is this a channel to ask questions for it?
[16:37] <racha> Sidewinder, i will make post there later fist i will try to get help here ,,,,
[16:37] <olde_yellar> kim_: the best advice that people give are to reconfigure xorg and select VESA driver... 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' however that entails a lot of reconfigureing, there seems to be a known bug...
[16:38] <Munna> hi im using ubuntu and it has 2 accounts and i want to dovnc toboth of them i tried it and it sucsesfuly connected but i cannot control the other account. i cannot use the mouse to click or type!
[16:38] <Munna> hi im using ubuntu and it has 2 accounts and i want to dovnc toboth of them i tried it and it sucsesfuly connected but i cannot control the other account. i cannot use the mouse to click or type!
[16:38] <Munna> hi im using ubuntu and it has 2 accounts and i want to dovnc toboth of them i tried it and it sucsesfuly connected but i cannot control the other account. i cannot use the mouse to click or type!
[16:38] <Sidewinder1> AOK
[16:38] <bazhang> whileimhere, yep
[16:38] <FloodBot1> Munna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <duffydack> !usb | whileimhere
[16:38] <kim_> ok then, well, what do you suggest I do? I'm not very good, I'm still learning
[16:38] <bazhang> Munna, once is enough
[16:38] <racha> Halitech, http://paste.ubuntu.com/269237/
[16:38] <Halitech> olde_yellar, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't do much any more
[16:39] <parapanghelescu> can someone recommend me a software for cataloging multimedia files, mp3, mkv, etc ...smth like gnomecatalog but a little bit more ....has to have the ability to "read" all the files from the HDD
[16:39] <Munna> so can someone help
[16:39] <whileimhere> okay when I load a LIVE version of NBR via my thumbdrive all seems well except the noted no wireless and no etho. But I know about that. What I was wondering is does the camera and the mic work on with NBR? I tried to record myself but so far I cannot
[16:39] <racha> Halitech, u need "01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[16:39] <racha> " ?
[16:39] <Halitech> racha, first thing I see is your onboard sound is still enabled, go into your bios and disable it
[16:39] <bazhang> Munna, be patient, dont repeat so often, perhaps every 20 minutes or so
[16:40] <Aethelred> I'm a writer. I need a laptop. On this machine, I will need to [1] compose text off-line an [2] use on-line browser-based apps (email via a web client, and something like Google Docs). I'll need stable, reliable, wireless (802.11g) networking. The ability to use a cordless mouse would be nice. I'd like to run some flavour of Ubuntu. I'm willing to consider a used machine. What should I be looking for and where should I be looking? What d
[16:40] <FiremanEd> !patience | Munna
[16:40] <olde_yellar> Halitech: I hadn't used it much since 8.04, so might be wrong there... any advice then?
[16:40] <racha> Halitech ... hmmm... i will try :S ... i will come back in 5-10 min :)
[16:40] <Aethelred> ?
[16:40] <bazhang> whileimhere, which netbook
[16:40] <whileimhere> bazhang: Asus Eee 1005HA
[16:40] <alazyworkaholic> revygttam: I have a couple old 650 MB cd-rws that I wanted to use too but they're 50MB too small for ubuntu so I can't use the "check disk for errors" utility built into ubuntu's installation. With 2 different computers & 3 burners I've had a tough time burning disks. 1 DVD+RW works, some don't, some sometimes with different programs (brasero/gnomebaker/k3b) which intermittently fail to recognize blank disks inserted &
[16:40] <Halitech> olde_yellar, reboot in safe mode and use xfix
[16:41] <olde_yellar> kim_: did you see the post by Halitech? quote: "reboot in safe mode and use xfix"
[16:41] <kim_> yep
[16:41] <kim_> alright then, we'll give that a go
[16:41] <Halitech> kim_, what video card is it again?
[16:42] <bazhang> whileimhere, hang on, am checking the eeeuser.com forums
[16:42] <kim_> thanks very much for all you help!
[16:42] <kim_> 9200 SE 128mb
[16:42] <olde_yellar> kim_: sorry about the lack of a solution, most of the bug reports are oldish - could be a bunch of reasons, good luck!
[16:42] <Aethelred> No one wants to help me spend my money?
[16:42]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[16:43] <kim_> olde_yellar: That's ok, thanks for the help, I'll try the xfix
[16:43] <Halitech> kim_, you may want to consider using 8.04 instead of 9.04, I had a 9600 that worked great in 8.04
[16:43] <Halitech> Aethelred, if you are in North America, look at system76.com
[16:43] <kim_> Halitech: Alright, we'll try the xfix and if that dosnt work we'll get 8.04
[16:43] <olde_yellar> kim_: Halitech: yeah the ATI drivers regressed with the newest release if I am not mistaken for the older cards...
[16:44] <Halitech> olde_yellar, kim_ not just the older cards, I have an x1200 that is no longer supported
[16:44] <Aethelred> Halitech: looking right now.
[16:44] <olde_yellar> Halitech: yikes!
[16:44] <dethredic> So I just got to university and I found out that I can't play lan games with my friend. I talked to the tech guys and the only way they can think of making it work would be to "Set up a VPN". I installed openvpn and openvpn-admin, but I can't figure out what I need to do to set it up. If someone could point me in the right direction that would be great.
[16:44] <GuidMorrow> I didn't have to expect to reformat my system again
[16:45] <kim_> Halitech, olde_yellar: That's strange, alot of cards seem to be getting dumped
[16:45] <olde_yellar> kim_: Halitech: rifht I'm outta here - good luck!
[16:45] <kim_> alright, thanks!
[16:45] <Halitech> olde_yellar, really ticked me off, its onboard so I can get a pci-e card someday
[16:45] <Halitech> kim_, basically anything below the hd2400
[16:45] <racha> Halitech, in my BIOS there is no option to disable onboard sound card :S
[16:46] <GuidMorrow> How do I recover from a GRUB Error 11?
[16:46] <kim_> Halitech: oh okay : ( that's bad news, most of our other back up cards are older lol
[16:46] <Halitech> racha, strange
[16:46] <GuidMorrow> I should have made a floppy
[16:46] <Halitech> kim_, rut roh
[16:46] <racha> Halitech, I dont have any problems on Windows ...
[16:46] <kim_> anyway Thanks Halitech, good luck with you problem solving! cya
[16:46] <racha> Halitech, idk why it dont work on ubuntu :S
[16:46] <snuitje> !pastebin
[16:46] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[16:47] <themickb> Greetings, I am a bit of a noob and need help changing my graphics driver
[16:47] <snuitje> FIXED IT! :) see http://paste.ubuntu.com/269242/
[16:47] <racha> Halitech, and one more thing i tink i heard something on Turning on ubuntu but when i try to play music from Youtube nothing :S
[16:48] <Halitech> racha, I'm using XFCE so I'm not sure on the exact location, but look under system admin and see if there is something about sound there
[16:48] <psywiped> how do i get from network card to another from a ssh tunnel on my server?
[16:49] <racha> Halitech, u can help me a litle with that because its my First day on ubuntu :)
[16:49] <GuidMorrow> !grub
[16:49] <GuidMorrow> how do I make a grub recovery diskette
[16:49] <Halitech> racha, will do what I can but I don't have all the same menus as you do
[16:49] <queso_> How can I close multiple buffers at the same time in vim that all have a certain directory in their path?
[16:49] <racha> Halitech, so where can i start :)
[16:50] <snuitje> btw i ran a2dismod cgi, maybe that helped
[16:50] <Halitech> racha, go to system - admin - sounds (I think)
[16:50] <racha> Halitech i have that on Preferences
[16:50] <psywiped> welcome to ubuntu racha
[16:51] <Turbolinux> Hello. I am wanting to connecting a Windows computer from Ubuntu. I installed RealVNC on Windows but I can't connect despite writing the IP adress and the port number of the computer. What I must do?
[16:51] <Halitech> racha, ok, see if there is a test button
 This is the website that racha initially posted; I may be confused but it looks like an audio chip.
[16:51] <racha> Halitech, i hear noice ... so it work ?
[16:51] <Sidewinder1> http://www.cmedia.com.tw/pci_cmI8768.html
[16:52] <Halitech> Sidewinder1, its a common chip used by alot of sound cards
[16:52] <Sidewinder1> OK
[16:52] <Halitech> racha, if you are hearing the sound then yes, the sound card is working and you are looking at other things you need to do to get youtube working
[16:53] <ikonia> pastebin.com
[16:53] <racha> Halitech, like what ?
[16:53] <ikonia> !paste
[16:53] <Halitech> racha, use pastebin again and post the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:53] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[16:53] <racha> Halitech, can u please w8 just 1 min i need to reboot something is Bugged :S
[16:53] <Chaz> Can someone who is running Ubuntu 9.04 please type 'groups' and paste me default groups they are in?
[16:53] <Steil> can someone help me?
[16:54] <ikonia> TD:
[16:54] <ikonia> TD: are you active ?
[16:54] <Sidewinder1> !ask | <Steil>
 Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[16:54] <paddeltje> In Youtube I hear sound, but I don't see the video play. I just see the first frame. The sound doesn't sound too good either, sinds it sometimes repeats... Is this a Java problem and if so: what should/should not be installed?
[16:54] <Munna> im on it right now and i checked alow others to view your desktop and allow others to control your desktop
[16:54] <ikonia> !info linux-image
[16:54] <Munna> im on it right now and i checked alow others to view your desktop and allow others to control your desktop
[16:54] <Ben64> http://tinyurl.com/poop
[16:54] <Steil> im having an issue
[16:54] <Steil> can someone help me?
[16:55] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/poop expands to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&familyid=429163ec-dcdf-47dc-96da-1c12d67327d5
[16:55] <Steil> please pm me if you want to help me
[16:55] <Steil> It's pretty embarassing, so i'd rather someone PM me if they want to help me
[16:55] <FloodBot1> Steil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <Steil> sorry
[16:55] <Munna> ok im using diffrent users right now mine (aaronvarghese (adimin)) and my cousins (aimeegrace(un-priveledged)) now on hers i oppen a terminal and type x11vnc then her port and hostname apears (which is only for local) i go on to mine by switch user and type vncviewer tedy132:2 and her account apears i want to type stuff using the vncviewer but nothing apears i want to click on something it...
[16:55] <Ben64> TD seems like a bot : /
[16:55] <Munna> ...doesnt get through i wanted some help on that now could you help ! :) :(
[16:55] <Munna> !ubottu
[16:55] <racha> ok i am here
[16:55] <Turbolinux> Can you help me to my problem?
[16:55] <racha> Halitech, What did u say ...
[16:55] <Munna> can someone help me with that
[16:55] <Halitech> racha, use pastebin again and post the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:56] <Chaz> Can someone who is running Ubuntu 9.04 please type 'groups' and paste me default groups they are in?
[16:56] <Halitech> !patience > Chaz
[16:56] <racha> Halitech, btw. is there shortcut to terminal ?
[16:56] <Munna> groups
[16:56] <Halitech> racha, no
[16:57] <racha> Halitech, http://paste.ubuntu.com/269248/
[16:57] <Munna> ok im using diffrent users right now mine (aaronvarghese (adimin)) and my cousins (aimeegrace(un-priveledged)) now on hers i oppen a terminal and type x11vnc then her port and hostname apears (which is only for local) i go on to mine by switch user and type vncviewer tedy132:2 and her account apears i want to type stuff using the vncviewer but nothing apears i want to click on something it...
[16:57] <Munna> ...doesnt get through i wanted some help on that now could you help ! :) :(
[16:57] <Sidewinder1> racha>If you right click on terminal, you can add to desktop or panel.
[16:57] <bazhang> Munna, please dont repeat every two minutes
[16:58] <racha> Sidewinder, tnx :)
[16:58] <Turbolinux> I am asking again. I am wanting to connecting a Windows computer from Ubuntu. I installed RealVNC on Windows but I can't connect despite writing the IP adress and the port number of the computer. What I must do?
[16:58] <Sidewinder1> Welks
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> Turbolinux:  on a local lan? Or internet?
[16:58] <Turbolinux> From internet.
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> Turbolinux:  you have to ssh tunnle vnc that way most likely.. just straight vnc is insecure
[16:59] <chazco> Hi... does the retail version of Windows 7 dual boot okay with Ubuntu 9.04? (clean HDD, install Windows, install Ubuntu)?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> chazco:  the beta version dual boots fine.
[16:59] <racha> chaco, i thik it will work fine
[16:59] <chazco> Dr_Willis - Ah good... i've got the retail one through MSDNAA so should be okay. Thanks :)
[16:59] <racha> chazco*
[16:59] <chazco> racha - Thanks :)
[17:00] <Turbolinux> How can I do the connection so?
[17:00] <Turbolinux> What I must do?
[17:00] <ikonia> TD: !pastebin
[17:00] <ikonia> !pastebin
[17:00] <TD> Link info: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin expands to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[17:00] <racha> Dr_Willis is there way to mod Boot Menu and Set Windows for default ?
[17:01] <Turbolinux> Dr_Wills what I must do?
[17:01] <shrey> I m not able to start my quassel IRC which came with kubuntu..pls tell what to do now
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> racha:  you can set diffrent 'defaults' for the grub menu. Yes.
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> !vnc
[17:01] <wevtek> Hello, anybody from spain?
[17:01] <racha> Dr_Willis, u knowe why i have 4x ubuntu in my boot menu ?
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> racha:  i normally edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as needed to set the default to the proper #.
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> racha:  you mean 4 kernels.. i imagine.
[17:02] <Dr_Willis> racha:  it keeps the old kernels  'just in case'
[17:02] <Powersource> in rhythmbox the sound is acting weird, and in amarok mp3 doesn't seem to work. :( what should i do?
[17:02] <bazhang> wevtek, in #ubuntu-es most certainly
[17:02] <wevtek> thanks!
[17:02] <racha> Dr_Willis, ahh .. ok ...
[17:02] <Halitech> racha, check here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[17:02] <racha> Halitech ... i will try that ...
[17:03] <Halitech> racha, thats going to be step 1
[17:03] <racha> Halitech, i need to that like in Tutorial or something else ?
[17:03] <themickb> Greetings, I am a bit of a noob and need help changing my graphics driver ... i know i have to use my xorg.conf file, but it displayed it as blank ?!
[17:04] <Halitech> racha, just follow the screenshots
[17:04] <racha> Halitech, kk
[17:04] <Halitech> themickb, xorg.conf doesn't do much anymore
[17:04] <bazhang> themickb, which card? on jaunty it is in system administration hardware drivers
[17:05] <themickb> i have a volari xgi
[17:05] <Turbolinux> It's very complicated. What I must do to connect the computer from Ubuntu only?
[17:05] <racha> Healitech, i get : W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[17:05] <themickb> and i am using jaunty
[17:05] <Halitech> racha, thats fine
[17:06] <Halitech> racha, just say yes
[17:06] <grawity> racha: Import that key to the apt-get keyring.
[17:06] <racha> Halitech, ok .. sorry didnt see Screen Shot :)
[17:07] <themickb> bazhang, i thought that system administration hardware drivers was for proprietary drivers only
[17:07] <grawity> racha: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[17:07] <Halitech> racha, there should be info on getting the keyring
[17:07] <themickb> Halitech, what should i use to switch my driver?
[17:07] <bazhang> themickb, should be the trident driver iirc let me check
[17:07] <paddeltje> In Youtube I hear sound, but I don't see the videos play. I just see the first frame. The sound doesn't sound too good either, since it sometimes repeats... Anyone any idea?
[17:07] <Halitech> themickb, I'm not sure, bazhang  has an idea
[17:08] <Halitech> paddeltje, compiz enabled?
[17:08] <bazhang> themickb, dell inspiron 5160?
[17:08] <themickb> bazhang, no an ibm netvista
[17:09] <GuidMorrow> hey guys! I got an error 11 and I had to reformat! should have told me how to make a GRUB rescue diskette!!!!
[17:09] <iGama> anyone using playonlinux? is it possible for it not to run on some users?
[17:09] <racha> Halitech, i think i am done :D
[17:10] <Halitech> racha, ok, now step 2 :) http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonfree
[17:10] <sunshinepants> anybody have a guide for installing/playing q3a on jaunty/ubuntu?
[17:10] <sunshinepants> stuff on goog seems out of date, maybe because the game is 10 years old
[17:11] <paddeltje> Halitech: yep, compiz is enabled
[17:11] <Halitech> paddeltje, try disabling it
[17:11] <duffydack> sunshinepants, quakelive :)
[17:11] <Anzo> Hello All, i am having some trouble with Kino would anyone be able to help
[17:12] <sunshinepants> duffydack: is that the flash game?
[17:12] <bazhang> themickb, the driver you need seems to be the xserver-xorg-video-sis
[17:12] <racha> Halitech, i get : Cannot install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[17:12] <racha> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[17:12] <racha> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflic
[17:12] <duffydack> sunshinepants, lol, no... its a very good 3d game played with your browser.
[17:12] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> how do I log in as root?
[17:12] <duffydack> sunshinepants, try it.
[17:12] <bazhang> Spkr2Cmputrs_, you should not
[17:13] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> I need to put a program in /usr/bin
[17:13] <Halitech> racha, ok, close the add/remove programs and open Synaptic and search for it
[17:13] <bazhang> Spkr2Cmputrs_, which program
[17:13] <themickb> bazhang, how do i switch to that driver?
[17:13] <duffydack> think i`ll have a quick game now
[17:13] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> warsow
[17:13] <bazhang> !info warsow
[17:13] <racha> Halitech, search for "Ubuntu restricted extras" ?
[17:13] <korogiannos> Hi how can I lower the screen resolution/refresh rate when I can't see because my monitor can't handle it after activating nvidia drivers?  Jaunty, geforce fx5200, driver ver 173?
[17:13] <Halitech> racha, yes
[17:13] <bazhang> Spkr2Cmputrs_, install via apt-get or synaptic
[17:13] <sunshinepants> duffydack: I'm not into it.. I have tried it. doesn't feel anything like playing natively
[17:14] <paddeltje> Halitech: same difference I'm afraid... any other suggestions?
[17:14] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> the package there is 0.42, the new version is 0.5
[17:14] <racha> Halitech, install ?:D
[17:14] <Halitech> racha, you are using ubuntu and not kubuntu or xubuntu?
[17:14] <themickb> bazhang, i was looking at what driver i needed earlier and the "sis" one is what i concluded
[17:14] <racha> halitech, yes
[17:14] <sipior> Spkr2Cmputrs_: commands can be issued with superuser privileges by prefixing them with "sudo" (or gksudo for those involving a gui)
[17:15] <themickb> bazhang, i am just don't know how to switch to it
[17:15] <racha> Halitech, i just get my CD from mail today :)
[17:15] <Halitech> racha, but it doesn't tell you what the conflicting software is?
[17:15] <alazyworkaholic> Does anyone know of a program that can test whether a cd-rw / dvd-rw disk is bad or not? i.e. badblocks for optical drives? (that wouldn't work would it?) I suspect burning problems are due to bad disks, but I'd like to confirm that, & maybe see if I ought to avoid certain brands.
[17:15] <racha> Halitech, no :S
[17:15] <Halitech> racha, ok, close synaptic and open the terminal again
[17:15] <racha> Halitech, its possible u can access my pc with "Remote Desktop" or something ?:D
[17:15] <frank662905> german romm?
[17:16] <bazhang> frank662905, #ubuntu-de
[17:16] <Myrtti> !de | frank662905
[17:16] <Halitech> racha, possible but I dont like doing that to people I don't know
[17:16] <racha> Halitech, ok ... what to type in Terminal ?
[17:16] <frank662905> ok,sorry
[17:16] <Halitech> racha, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:17] <korogiannos> How can I activate nvidia drivers but have a resolution/refresh rate that my monitor can handle when I reboot?
[17:17] <hackoo> I am installing ubuntu , can I share /home of previous installed fedora , its ext4 partition.
[17:18] <iGama> hackoo, yes
[17:18] <mneptok> hackoo: yes. choose not to format the /home partition when defining partitions.
 Hardware Drivers
[17:18] <clearscreen> are there any lightweight rss readers (hell, preferably all it has is a tray icon that notifies me of new entries) for GNOME? I don't feel like grabbing a couple hundred megs of KDE libs along with Akregator
[17:19] <iGama> hackoo, you can have some errors on gnome, but you can fix that by cleanning the folders .gnome .gnome2 and .gconf in your home folder. This will clean you desktop preferences
[17:19] <hackoo> mneptok: but I heared that ubuntu kernel dont support ext4
[17:19] <clearscreen> mneptok: jaunty does afaik
[17:19] <korogiannos> Sidewinder1: I've done that and activated the recomended driver but on rebooting for the driver to work the res/Hz is too high for my monitor to display
[17:20] <Uuu> clearscreen: Opera has it built-in, and also there's liferea, which seems to be good.
[17:20] <Uuu> (not sure if it has a tray icon)
[17:20] <racha> Halitech, done :)
[17:20] <paddeltje> Halitech: disabling compiz makes the same difference for Youtube videos... any other suggestions, by any chance?
[17:20] <clearscreen> Uuu: cool, I'll have a look. Thanks... Also found this through apt for anyone that is interested: 'yarssr - RSS reader for the notification area'
[17:21] <Halitech> racha, ok, now run sudo apt-get install w32codecs flashplugin-nonfree
[17:21] <paddeltje> Halitech: sorry, I'll let you finish helping racha first...
[17:21] <Halitech> paddeltje, not offhand, what video card?
[17:21] <racha> Halitech done ..
[17:22] <Halitech> racha, ok, try to open youtube and see what happens
[17:22] <racha> Halitech, Help him i need to go in WC ... :)
[17:22] <paddeltje> Halitech: an SiS something
[17:22] <paddeltje> Halitech: using an Asus X58CSeries laptop
[17:22] <Halitech> paddeltje, not the best card, sis cards suck for support
[17:23] <heogen> hi there, do you know a program like internet download manager?
[17:23] <racha> Halitech, Agein nothing :S
[17:23] <heogen> in ubuntu
[17:23] <paddeltje> Halitech: I know, but it used to work under Windows, so I know i t can be done
[17:23] <bazhang> heogen, aria2
[17:23] <Halitech> racha, have you installed the drivers for your video card?
[17:24] <alazyworkaholic> I have a problem. I can't eject a (bad) cd I was erasing. Had to kill k3b & the drive's LED is still flashing & doesn't respond to sudo eject or the eject button. I could restart ubuntu, but I'd like to know how to solve this if I had something uninterruptible going on.
[17:24] <heogen> it is in synaptic?
[17:24] <bazhang> heogen, yes
[17:24] <Halitech> paddeltje, sis writes drivers for windows, linux isnt so lucky
[17:24] <heogen> bashang thank you
[17:24] <heogen> bazhand let me try it
[17:24] <racha> Halitech, Video work fine :S ... it instaled it Auto. i didnt installed anything ... just a sec i will come back in 2 min
[17:24] <paddeltje> Halitech: that's a bummer. I'll see if I can find any alternatives. Thanks a lot though!
[17:25] <alazyworkaholic> Never mind, about 3 minutes later it ejects...:S
[17:25] <Halitech> paddeltje, I'd suggest if it was a desktop on getting a new card but not possible on a laptop
[17:26] <Sidewinder1> alazyworkaholic>Many CD?DVD players have a small hole to stick the end of a paper clip in to manually eject.
[17:27] <racha> Halitech, And when i start test on "Sound" i dont hear all my 5.1 ... :S
[17:27] <paddeltje> Halitech: no such luck and I am already using the best alternative I could find, which is the xorg-driver-sis671_0.9_i386 driver...
[17:28] <racha> I will start to hate ubuntu just because i cant lisn music :(
[17:29] <Halitech> racha, in the terminal, run alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted
[17:29] <Halitech> racha, don't blame Ubuntu because something doesn't work properly, blame the hardware manufactorers for not releasing drivers or specs so we can create drivers that work properly
[17:30] <Sidewinder1> racha> Don't hate ubuntu; it's the dilatory manufacturers that won't write drivers for linux, just winbloze.
[17:30] <racha> i knowe :(
[17:30] <racha> I will kill them all :D
[17:30] <Sidewinder1> Nah, just don't buy their products. :-)
[17:30] <majuk> Can anyone give me an idea why LVM says I have 300gigs free yet 0 extents free? http://dpaste.com/92138/
[17:31] <King1> racha: after 3 days of no sound and trying all the fixes, I finally downloaded the latest ALSA drivers compiled and installed and now I have sound
[17:32] <squidly> I'm having an issue with a package that borke
[17:32] <racha> Halitech, When i start test with OSS all my 5.1 Work ...
[17:32] <Sidewinder1> squidly>Have you tried Synaptic, "repair broken packages"?
[17:32] <Halitech> racha, ok, use OSS then, now try youtube and see what happens
[17:32] <squidly> I have 2 pakcaged that depend on another packge. The base package wont inststall because of an issue with another package. I want to remove the package that is causing the issut but it wont let me
[17:32] <genii> majuk: Please don't post the same question in multiple channels
[17:33] <ugliefrog> record my desktop...is this best one to use
[17:33] <racha> Halitech, nothing like allways maybe to try some mp3's ?
[17:33] <squidly> Sidewinder1: I tried that already
[17:34] <squidly> the error I get is this
[17:34] <majuk> genii: Uh, no.
[17:34] <squidly> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mythtv-common_0.22.0~trunk21765-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mythtv/themes/MythCenter-wide/ui/background.png', which is also in package mythtv-theme-mythcenter-wide
[17:34] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me where i can upload images just like that for text in paste.ubuntu
[17:34] <bazhang> !imagebin
[17:34] <racha> Halitech, It Works but no Bass and low q. :(((
[17:34] <bazhang> PerryArmstrong, ^^
[17:35] <racha> Halitech is there something i can do with that ?
[17:35] <PerryArmstrong> bazhang; thanks
[17:35] <rambo298> anyone know why openoffice.org2-java-common can't be found in jaunty? openoffice word whines about an invalid jre; didn't used to before the latest update
[17:36] <racha> Halitech, u are here ?
[17:36] <pleo> i installed ftpserver in ubuntu
[17:36] <pleo> how can i create users
[17:36] <pleo> to access it
[17:36] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone have a look at this:  http://imagebin.org/63485...I am not able to see the flash images...can anyone give me the solution
[17:37] <pleo> and how can i make the default folder /www/
[17:37] <Halitech> racha, yeah, try mp3s, youtube wouldn't work for me until I had decent video drivers installed (not sure on why)
[17:37] <Sidewinder1> pleo>!enter | pleo>
[17:37] <fccf> !enter | pleo
[17:37] <c1s4n7> Hola buenas
[17:37] <racha> Halitech, i dont hear my Center and Bass speaker ?
[17:37] <fccf> !es | c1s4n7
[17:38] <iceroot> rambo298: because jaunty is using openoffice3?
[17:38] <c1s4n7> lol
[17:38] <c1s4n7> gracias
[17:38] <iceroot> pleo: but your users in the ftp-group
[17:38] <racha> Halitech, its possible to change something ?
[17:38] <rambo298> iceroot: yes i installed openoffice 3.0 but it worked find until the last update this morning
[17:38] <racha> Halitech, and its not 100% quality :S
[17:38] <bn43> hi I'd like to know how to get them mouse to show an hourglass/working when clicking on a launcher on the desktop - how do I do that?
[17:38] <racha> i use 320kps mp3's
[17:39] <iceroot> rambo298: hm, ok havent done upgrade the last days so cant say if this is a global error
[17:39] <pleo> Sidewinder1, want to access that ftp server from other pc-s. i access it only like anonymous
[17:39] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone have a look at this:  http://imagebin.org/63485...I am not able to see the flash images...can anyone give me the solution
[17:39] <Sidewinder1> bn43>Miss windows, do you? :-)
[17:39] <bn43> Sidewinder1, no a user is asking
[17:39] <Sidewinder1> JK
[17:39] <iceroot> PerryArmstrong: using flashplugin-nonfree with apt-get?
[17:40] <bn43> the user clicks on the icon and does not know if its responding until app appears
[17:40] <bn43> I'm used to it so does not bother me
[17:40] <savid> Hi, my spell checking in firefox is defaulting to en-GB (eg, "favorite" and "color" are considered misspelled).  How do I make it use en-US?
[17:40] <zvonkorp>  
[17:40] <Halitech> racha, I'm not sure, mine worked after plugging in the card
[17:40] <PerryArmstrong> iceroot; i installed it...and restarted my firefox
[17:40] <rambo298> iceroot: more info; OOword whines about an invalid jre when i open up a word doc that i opened before with OOword
[17:41] <iceroot> rambo298: java -version   tells what?
[17:41] <racha> Halitech, but where or who can help me with that ... i cant with out Bass :S and more then 50% effects of my songs :(
[17:41] <racha> Halitech, is there anyway to make it work with Windows drivers ?
[17:41] <iceroot> PerryArmstrong: jaunty?
[17:41] <Sidewinder1> bn43>I thought the little spinning icon (working) was there by default and couldn't be deleted.
[17:41] <PerryArmstrong> iceroot; yes
[17:42] <racha> Halitech, they work perfectly
[17:42] <Halitech> racha, look in the forum and see if there is any help there or wait for a bit and ask about 5.1 issues in here
[17:42] <Halitech> racha, windows drivers are for windows and not linux
[17:42] <bn43> Sidewinder1, no it isn't - no change in icon
[17:42] <rambo298> iceroot: tells nothing ... so why would an update pull java off the system?
[17:42] <racha> Halitech, Is there anyone who can make from Windows Drivers - Drivers for linux ?
[17:43] <iceroot> rambo298: i dont know, so just install java
[17:43] <trainer> Halitech, if you can remember from a few hours ago - I'm updating an older machine.. I put in the 8.04 cd, click upgrade and it says "Can not upgrade - An upgrade from 'feisty' to 'hardy' is not supported with this tool"
[17:43] <racha> Halitech, i cant belive they dont have drivers for ubuntu :S
[17:43] <iceroot> racha: companies for e.g.
[17:43] <Sidewinder1> bn43> Sorry I couldn't be of more assistence. :-(
[17:43] <King1> Day 3: I'm still looking for someone to help me adjust screen brightness on my hp laptop.....I'll be blind by next week at this rate.
[17:44] <bn43> Sidewinder1, its cool - hope someone here can answer - does seem a bit strange that there is no indication given
[17:44] <Sidewinder1> racha>Halitech>Could he run through wine?
[17:44] <racha> So any1 here knowe something about 5.1 ? and can help me ?
[17:44] <Starcraftmazter> In the last couple of days I've noticed Ubuntu get "slow" after a day's use, and by slow I mean applications take several seconds to come up (10s perhaps). Any bad updates happen lately?
[17:44] <racha> Sidewinder, wine ?:D
[17:45] <Sidewinder1> !wine | racha>
[17:45] <iceroot> Starcraftmazter: have a look at top
[17:45] <Halitech> Sidewinder1, racha possibly given the time someone can provide a better driver but its not usually something that will happen overnight and no, WINE won't do hardware
[17:45] <Starcraftmazter> iceroot: did, nothing out of the ordinary
[17:45] <iceroot> Starcraftmazter: specially the ram (swap)
[17:45] <King1>  Day 3: I'm still looking for someone to help me adjust screen brightness on my hp laptop.....I'll be blind by next week at this rate.
[17:45] <iceroot> !repeat | King1
[17:45] <Halitech> trainer, you'll need to do a fresh install of 8.04, not upgrade, you would have to go 7.04 - 7.10 - 8.04
[17:45] <Sidewinder1> Halitech>Wasn't sure, just thought I'd ask... :-)
[17:45] <clearscreen> what's that daemon called again that automatically rebuilds specific modules on kernel upgrades?
[17:45] <Halitech> Sidewinder1, wish it was possible
[17:46] <{zEr0-x}> hi!
[17:46] <clearscreen> dkms or something? :P
[17:46] <iceroot> King1: just write a good question with details, errors and what you have done
[17:46] <clearscreen> yup, nvmd :)
[17:46] <racha> Halitech, but if it work with OSS there need to be something to get all my 5.1 to work ?
[17:46] <PerryArmstrong> iceroot; so whats the solution
[17:46] <iceroot> PerryArmstrong: i dont know the site works fine here with flashplugin-nonfree
[17:47] <Araneidae> How do I reconfigure my network?  The taskbar icon says "device not managed"
[17:47] <trainer> Halitech ok thanks
[17:47] <iceroot> PerryArmstrong: have a look at the firefox addons-manager if something is disabled (as the error tells you)
[17:47] <Araneidae> When I bring up the Network Connections application and click on "Add" in the "Wired" tab, nothing happens
[17:48] <PerryArmstrong> iceroot; i disabled many players that i installed...as my flash images were taking time to load...just let me know which plugins i have to enable
[17:48] <iceroot> PerryArmstrong: the flash-plugin
[17:48] <racha> Halitech, Sidewiner ... u knowe any1 who can help me with 5.1 ?
[17:48] <Halitech> racha, most times the devs are working on getting basic functionality so depending on who is working on the driver for this card, getting 5.1 to work may not be a priority for them ... you could try playing around with the mixer settings and see if there is any settings there that might help
[17:49] <PerryArmstrong> iceroot; i have enabled shockwave flash
[17:49] <Sidewinder1> racha>You can always try thr forums.
[17:49] <racha> Sidewinder i will
[17:49] <sayed> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu on this laptop and for some reason sound isn't working, this laptop has an ATI HD4000 series.
[17:49] <sayed> Any ideas?
[17:50] <racha> !forum
[17:50] <tonii> how's that GFX related to SOUND?
[17:50] <{zEr0-x}> sayed, you should install privative drivers
[17:50] <fccf> !work | sayed
[17:50] <iceroot> sayed: of course a vga is not playing sound
[17:51] <tonii> ^_^
[17:51] <sayed> iceroot: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series]
[17:51] <sayed> Doesn't look like vga to me
[17:51] <iceroot> sayed: google says ato hd4000 is a vga
[17:51] <sayed> iceroot: Well my laptop is telling me otherwise =]
[17:51] <{zEr0-x}> yes, iceroot has the reason, sayed, you need to be more speceific ;)
[17:52] <iceroot> sayed: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATI-Radeon-HD-4000-Serie
[17:52] <Blizzerand> Can you use virt-manager in ubuntu , does anyone use it here
[17:52] <Halitech> iceroot, if sayed has an AMD board with onboard everything using the ATI chipset, the sound card will show up that way
[17:52] <sayed> Then this is it Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series]
[17:52] <sayed> Halitech: I do have an AMD board
[17:53] <fccf> sayed: the R700 is the audio output for your HDMI sound ... ther will also be an intel chip on that machine
[17:53] <Halitech> sayed, was thinking you did
[17:53] <sayed> Sorry* <Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Serie]
[17:53] <genii> !away > ^[-_____-]^zZz
[17:53] <iceroot> sayed: that is hdmi and not a soundcard
[17:53] <sayed> Hold on a second, there is
[17:53] <sayed> An intel chip
[17:53] <iceroot> sayed: so dont tell ato hd 4000 is a soundcard :)
[17:53] <sayed> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[17:54] <sayed> That must be it.
[17:54] <sayed> So how can I get that card functioning so that I can hear sound and also get the audio input going?
[17:55] <KittyBoots> I have an eight gb thumb drive and I want to format it to ntfs, gparted does not support the format, how can I make the drive ntfs, I put it in a windows machine also but it only would format to fat32
[17:56] <fccf> KittyBoots: you will need to install ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs to make gparted support the format
[17:56] <Halitech> sayed, look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1124049&highlight=SBx00+Azalia
[17:56] <vavar> which dvb usb tv devices are known to work with ubuntu out-of-box ?
[17:57] <fccf> vavar: I'm gunna say buy a Hauppage
[17:58] <KittyBoots> fccf: thanks!
[17:59] <sayed> Halitech: That thread refers to a /etc/modprobe.d/sound file that I don't have, should I create it?
[17:59] <Halitech> sayed, I would say yes if it gives you what you need to add to it
[18:00] <sayed> Halitech: Alright and how do I initiate the changes to that file without restarting? What command should I issue?
[18:00] <racha> Any one knowe where i can get MSN for ubuntu ?
[18:00] <Halitech> sayed, out of curiousity, does aplay -l show anything?
[18:00] <sayed> Halitech: It shows plenty
[18:00] <romy> nobody speak french ?
[18:00] <Thorning> racha: Have you tried Pidgin?
[18:00] <fccf> !fr | romy
[18:00] <Halitech> sayed, sudo touch /etc/modprobe.d/sound
[18:00] <Thorning> use install/remove
[18:00] <bn43> btw some osum dude on another channel gave me solution - add line StartupNotify=true to the .desktop launcher file
[18:01] <Thorning> sry "add/remove" programs ..
[18:01] <Halitech> sayed, then use gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/sound
[18:01] <romy> thank's
[18:01] <bn43> Sidewinder1, see my last post - solved!
[18:01] <racha> Thorning, simple its crap :) ... and its so complicated :S
[18:01] <cmuse> hi all
[18:01] <Thorning> nah it's awesome ^^
[18:02] <Halitech> racha, no, its just different then windows
[18:02] <romy> sorry but generally i'm not here and what is it
[18:02] <Thorning> I need serious help with sound problem  (after installing OSS) ... If anyone think they can help pleeease message me
[18:02] <Thorning> is has totaly messed up my system
[18:02] <fccf> !pm | Thorning
[18:02] <rambo298> iceroot: what does this mean regarding LaunchPad?  http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-09-08-008-39-PR-SW-AP
[18:02] <Sidewinder1> bn43>Kewl, I never knew that...
[18:02] <fccf> !enter | Thorning
[18:02] <sayed> Halitech: So after 'touch'ing the file, the changes should be made?
[18:02] <racha> Halitech, can i use normal MSN with that software for Windows appl?
[18:03] <Halitech> sayed, use touch to create the file, then the gksudo gedit command to open it and edit it
[18:03] <Halitech> racha, no
[18:03] <ubuntu-nathan> hi!
[18:03] <ubuntu-nathan> Someone can help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1263805
[18:03] <cmuse> my sound card driver is not work
[18:03] <racha> Haltech, i cant use MSN with WINE ?:(
[18:03] <cmuse> can you help me?
[18:03] <sayed> Halitech: Okay but what modprobe command should I issue to put the changes into effect?
[18:03] <Uuu> racha: you can search for "msn" in synaptic, there's probably a package named amsn, it could be what you want.
[18:04] <Halitech> racha, but there are numerous native apps that will work with the msn protocal
[18:04] <Thorning> cmuse: > that makes two of us ... except mine was working fine until I installed OSS (10 min ago)
[18:04] <ubuntu-nathan> racha: Use Pidgin, Gaim...
[18:04] <Halitech> sayed, it should hopefully tell you, should be sudo modprobe ??????
[18:04] <{zEr0-x}> Halitech: yes, but actually aMSN bring support for webcam broadcasting.
[18:04] <grawity> ubuntu-nathan: Gaim is the same as Pidgin.
[18:04] <{zEr0-x}> racha: absolutely aMSN is the best choice.
[18:04] <nathan7> grawity: hm?
[18:04] <nathan7> oh
[18:04] <nathan7> right
[18:05] <grawity> racha: Pidgin, Empathy, Emesene, aMSN.
[18:05] <Halitech> {zEr0-x}, haven;t used it recently and I hardly keep my webcam hooked up so not important to me
[18:05] <{zEr0-x}> although, aMSN could be a lil' bit slow.
[18:05] <racha> {zEr0-x}, can u help me a litle with that ?? http://www.amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php#AP ?
[18:06] <cmuse> thorning i just have installed ubuntu
[18:06] <cmuse> but sound driver not working
[18:06] <{zEr0-x}> racha, install it using apt-get, it's better.
[18:06] <racha> {zEr0-x}, ya i didnt say u i am noob with ubuntu ? :)
[18:06] <thiebaude> hi racha
[18:06] <Pici> !software | racha this should help a bit
[18:06] <rhlin99> hello all, I was having trouble keeping my resolution set with v9.04.  I changed the card out to a fx5200 and after trying a couple ideas from the group, my disply is no longer using the nvidia drivers.  How can I change it back so the xconfig uses the nvidia drivers?  The default doesnt give me enough resolution.
[18:07] <mini> Anyone know how I can customize how the email that cron-apt sends looks, I can't seem to find any detailed info?
[18:07] <racha> hi thiebaude ?
[18:07] <fccf> racha: read this as well .. good primer on all of ubuntu ... www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[18:07] <Thorning> After installing OSS-linux-4.2-2000_amd64 deb packade, all my sound devices have disappeared and I just have playback/capture NULL devices left. Anyone know how to fix this?
[18:07] <racha> fccf, ok tnx
[18:08] <Shrey_> hey buddies open office has come up with new version 3.1.1, i want to update my offce3.0 which came with kubuntu with new version..what should i type at konsole.
[18:08] <Halitech> Shrey_, you wouldn't, you would need to install from the OO website
[18:08] <ubuntucrashed> so i was upgrading ubuntu 9.04 last using the apt-get upgrade command..and towards the end of it, my pc just carshes saying a criting temperature reached 91 degrees.
[18:09] <ubuntucrashed> and now when i boot it up, it says it cant load graphical interface due to internal error..
[18:09] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks; having trouble getting sun
[18:09] <ubuntucrashed> and im left with tty
[18:09] <Thorning> Or .. if anyone knows how to reinstall sounddrivers etc from scratch?
[18:09] <kd8JHC> ubuntucrashed - were you doing a distro upgrade or just normal updates
[18:09] <Halitech> ubuntucrashed, reboot into single user and try to run xfix
[18:09] <arooni-mobile___> hi folks having trouble getting sun's java6 jre to actually run:  http://pastie.org/613766
[18:10] <ubuntucrashed> kd8JHC: i was doing a normal update
[18:10] <ubuntucrashed> Halitech: run xfix in tty?
[18:10] <Halitech> ubuntucrashed, you could try it with sudo but I think it only runs from the single user mode in grub
[18:10] <fccf> Halitech: that isn't true ... it is available here deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[18:11] <racha> ubuntu is so fast and its rly good but there is problem with my Sound Card i cant get 5.1 to work if any1 knowe please help me :)
[18:11] <fccf> !version | Shrey_
[18:11] <Halitech> fccf, ok, didn't know someone had packaged a PPA already
[18:11] <KittyBoots> #vbox
[18:11] <ubuntucrashed> Halitech: so when my computer is booting up, i edit the command and replace it with xfix?
[18:12] <fccf> Shrey_: You are running Jaunty?? yes?
[18:12] <ubuntucrashed> Halitech: while in grub
[18:12] <Shrey_> fccf: yes
[18:12] <Halitech> ubuntucrashed, no, when you see grub, select the single user mode (might be called recovery mode) and you should get an option to run xfix
[18:13] <ubuntucrashed> Halitech: ok thanks, im going to try it..
[18:13] <fccf> adding this deb line to /etc/apt/sources.list will enable the oo 3.1.1 repository and you can upgrade to the ppa from there 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main'
[18:13] <Pici> fccf: Don't forget the gpg key too
[18:14] <moonshine> hello
[18:14] <moonshine> i have a problem :D
[18:14] <fccf> Shrey_: you can get the gpg key here deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[18:14] <fccf> whoops
[18:15] <hacknslash> moonshine, ask away
[18:15] <fccf> Shrey_:  here ... http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD2BB86E0EBD0F0A43D4DB3A760D11217247D1CFF&op=index
[18:16] <moonshine> the boot screen , the splash screen when ubuntu loads, its is at resolution 1600x1200, and that makes me nervous...how to set it to 1280x800?
[18:17] <moonshine> anyone?
[18:18] <racha> Halitech, me agein :D ... and what can i do about youtube ?
[18:18] <UltimateMacUser1> hi hi.  I' having a problem installing Ubuntu on a PC.  The install seems to have worked, but, the GRUB bootloader menu does not appear at system startup.
[18:18] <fccf> !anyone | moonshine
[18:18] <moonshine> the boot screen , the splash screen when ubuntu loads, its is at resolution 1600x1200, and that makes me nervous...how to set it to 1280x800?
[18:18] <moonshine> theres the real question :)
[18:19] <{zEr0-x}> moonshine, I guess this may help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484&highlight=grub+resolution
[18:19] <vasiauvi> hello ubuntusers :P
[18:19] <Blizzerand> k does anyone use virt-manager here
[18:19] <Monkey_b> question, is there a 'minimal' ubuntu install available? kind of how debian has 'netinst' ?
[18:19] <Pici> !minimal | Monkey_b sure
[18:20] <Monkey_b> thanks pici
[18:20] <fccf> !netboot
[18:20] <moonshine> this doesnt work for me
[18:20] <clearscreen> fccf: netboot != netinst
[18:21] <kd8JHC> moonshine: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29289
[18:21] <Blizzerand> !netinst
[18:21] <kd8JHC> moonshine: old info, but relevant
[18:21] <Blizzerand> Is virtualization manager available in ubuntu repos
[18:22] <tuukkak> I'm in trouble with keyboard shortcuts: I used ctrl+t to launch terminal but I removed that because it blocked adding a new tab in firefox. Now after removing it I can't get ctrl+t working again in firefox. Any advices or ideas what's wrong?
[18:22] <zamba> tuukkak: try restarting firefox
[18:22] <Pici> !info virt-manager | Blizzerand looks like it
[18:22] <tuukkak> zamba: tried that
[18:22] <zamba> tuukkak: or logging back in again
[18:22] <UltimateMacUser1> just i just try reinstalling?  I'm trying to get this machine to dual boot Ubuntu & Windows XP.  It's an SGI 550, with an existing Win XP install.
[18:23] <UltimateMacUser1> no GRUB bootloader menu @ startup tho
[18:23] <moonshine> UltimateMacUser1,
[18:23] <Blizzerand> Pici : Well its much better than vbox . thanks
[18:23] <moonshine> pvt me please :D
[18:23] <moonshine> to help ya :D
[18:23] <UltimateMacUser1> will do
[18:24] <rhlin99> how can I reinstall nvidia drivers?  Using v9.04 and display is in default and too low of resolution.
[18:24] <Halitech> !nvidia | rhlin99
[18:24] <NoCode> When using the GUI mode to repair grub for 2 Ubuntu distros, should I mount both distro partitions AND swap so they are detected proper? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Backup,%20Repairing%20and%20Reinstalling%20GRUB
[18:24] <moonshine> !s3
[18:24] <jp210168> use package manager to remove then reinstall
[18:24] <{zEr0-x}> rhlin99: or you can use System -> Administration -> Hardware Driver
[18:25] <jp210168> that too.
[18:27] <Turbolinux> The RealVNC server is not responding to my requests for connecting to Windows computer. I read just now there is a port forwarding needed. Is it right?
[18:27] <rhlin99> That shows the nvidia driver is in use but when I go to system/nvidia and click it states it's not in use and tells me to modify xconfig
[18:27] <piero> Is there a way to copy/delete music files that are listed in an audacious/xmms playlist?
[18:27] <jp210168> try reinstalling first
[18:27] <jp210168> *the drivers
[18:27] <Halitech> Turbolinux, if you are using a router then yes
[18:28] <hacktop> how do you make something run at startup at Kubuntu?
[18:28] <Turbolinux> But how can I protect the opened port from attacking?
[18:28] <Pici> !startup-#kubuntu | hacktop
[18:29] <_Kate> Any idea why when I run in my preseed file: "d-i     preseed/late_command            string wget http://172.16.69.3/installer/finished_installation" that I get error code 127? =/
[18:29] <shortlord> ich mache gerade ein partitionsschema fuer Ubuntu. Derzeit habe ich 500 MB /boot, 20 GB /, 220 GB /home und am Ende der Platte noch 4 GB swap. Waere es theoretisch moeglich die Home Partition spaeter zu verkleinern um in diesen freien Bereich dann noch ein anderes OS zu installieren?
[18:29] <Pici> !de | shortlord
[18:29] <shortlord> oh, I'm sry, I have clicked on the wrong channel tab^^
[18:29] <shortlord> thx, Pici
[18:29] <Halitech> Turbolinux, don't use standard ports
[18:30] <Turbolinux> So what I must do?
[18:31] <dixie_bo_> I am having issues with my ubuntu installation, my screen is distorted with lines and dots, in /var/log/Xorg i get this error msg (EE) SIS(0): Illegal video RAM size (262144K) detected, using BIOS-provided info
[18:31] <Turbolinux> And what I must do on Vista for remote connection?
[18:31] <djbpython> i am having trouble figuring out the file structure in ubuntu/ linux in general
[18:31] <DJ_Unibob|laptop> are both machines on the same LAN?  came in late on this one.
[18:31] <djbpython> are there any good resources?
[18:32] <hacktop> how can I detect if someone is portscanning me? I'm using KDE
[18:32] <djbpython> specifically I am pulling a code repository down and im not sure where to put it
[18:32] <abhi69> hi al
[18:32] <abhi69> i am online
[18:32] <ubuntucrashed> ok i tried to do xfix, but it didnt work. it said that it couldnt find /etc/x11/xorg.config 20010911101626
[18:32] <dixie_bo_> we are too! :)
[18:32] <hacktop> hurray:)
[18:32] <Turbolinux> No. I couldn't create a network. The computers doesn't detecting otherselves.
[18:32] <abhi69> i hav a question
[18:32] <Turbolinux> don't detecting
[18:32] <dixie_bo_> Turbolinux: do you have their IP addresses?
[18:32] <dixie_bo_> aren't detecting*
[18:32] <dixie_bo_> if anything
[18:33] <dixie_bo_> do you have each of their ip address
[18:33] <hacktop> I have to run sudo /etc/init.d/wicd start after each reboot....
[18:33] <dixie_bo_> ?
[18:33] <FloodBot1> dixie_bo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:33] <jp210168> crashed because it needs xorg.config for gfx
[18:33] <abhi69> i love realplayer & use it in windows
[18:33] <DJ_Unibob|laptop> make sure file sharing is enabled on the vista machine in the network and sharing center.
[18:33] <dixie_bo_> who the hekk flooded stupid bot
[18:33] <abhi69> i want to use it in ubuntu
[18:33] <abhi69> can i?
[18:33] <Berzerker-> dixie_bo_, you did.
[18:34] <ubuntucrashed> jp210168: how did that happen? i did an apt-get upgrade last night and ever since then the GUI wont load up, all i get is a tty
[18:34] <dixie_bo_> how do I fix this: (EE) SIS(0): Illegal video RAM size (262144K) detected, using BIOS-provided info. [symptoms are a distorted screen]
[18:34] <hacktop> how do I run a terminal command at KDE startup?
[18:34] <dixie_bo_> Berzerker-: I did not, step down!
[18:34] <_Kate> Are there any good references for preseed/late_command anywhere? I can't seem to get it to work. Rather, I only get error code 127 on every failed run of ANY command.
[18:34] <dixie_bo_> hacktop: ctrl+f1
[18:34] <Berzerker-> dixie_bo_, this bot defines flooding as 4 messages within 5 seconds of each other.
[18:34] <slug> abhi69:   real player is no good
[18:34] <Turbolinux> Yes. I have IP adresses. It don't detect otherselves or maybe I am making a mistake. How I can create a network. I'm sorry for too much questions but I'm very new about these topics.
[18:34] <youcanlinux> join /#ubuntu-meeting
[18:34] <jp210168> ubuntucrashed: if there is no xorg.config file, use driver utilities to generate one
[18:34] <dixie_bo_> Berzerker-: client side lag is way different from flood
[18:34] <abhi69> why?
[18:34] <youcanlinux> help
[18:34] <Berzerker-> dixie_bo_, not to the bot.
[18:35] <racha> Any1 can help me i dont knowe how to connect to remote desktop ?
[18:35] <hacktop> dixie_bo_ ctrl+f1 does not do a thing
[18:35] <slug> abhi69:  its full of crap
[18:35] <ubuntucrashed> jp210168: is it possible to use driver utilities through tty?
[18:35] <abhi69> can i play all kind of media format in realplayer in ubuntu?
[18:35] <abhi69> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[18:35] <kristofer> hello. It seems xine, vlc among other DVD-capable players stopped working in a recent update for mythbuntu. Has anyone else experienced this?
[18:35] <slug> abhi69:   vlc is good
[18:35] <abhi69> hmm
[18:35] <dixie_bo_> Berzerker-: well I hope you wont have to undergo an operation by bot
[18:35] <abhi69> i hav it
[18:35] <jp210168> ubuntucrashed: what card do you use, nvidia or ati? you can use command line to restore xorg.config
[18:35] <Berzerker-> hacknslash, is it just one line?
[18:36] <Berzerker-> eh
[18:36] <Berzerker-> hacktop, is it just one line?
[18:36] <racha> Any1 can help me i dont knowe how to connect to remote desktop ?
[18:36] <dixie_bo_> hacktop: ctrl+alt+f1
[18:36] <ubuntucrashed> jp210168: im using ATI, how do i restore xorg.config?
[18:36] <abhi69> i can't play certain type of DVD using totem-gstreamer
[18:36] <Berzerker-> dixie_bo_, please stop.
[18:36] <master_of_master> hi, how can I change the default locale (only) for a certain user?
[18:36] <Turbolinux> DJ_Unibob|laptop, it's enabled.
[18:37] <abhi69> but i hav ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[18:37] <slug> abhi69:  I use vlc you DVD ISO
[18:37] <jp210168> ubuntucrashed: try sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[18:37] <SealedWithAKiss> join #perl
[18:38] <abhi69> totem-gstremaer can't play some of DVD, playback is well but there is no sound
[18:38] <abhi69> but i can play them using totem-xine
[18:38] <dixie_bo_> Berzerker-: you are being fisty and then request me to stop defending my actions? are you a troll?
[18:38] <ubuntucrashed> ok ill be back, im going to try it..
[18:38] <abhi69> what is the problem of totem-gstremer for those DVD?
[18:38] <jp210168> ubuntucrashed: worse comes to worse, you may need vesa drivers to boot into GUI to get driver files
[18:38] <jp210168> oh he left...
[18:39] <dixie_bo_> how do I fix this: (EE) SIS(0): Illegal video RAM size (262144K) detected, using BIOS-provided info. [symptoms are a distorted screen]
[18:39] <Berzerker-> dixie_bo_, I'm telling you to stop because you're giving him wrong information.
[18:39]  * Lancien is away: Occupé
[18:39] <Turbolinux> Halitech, the Windows computer is enabled for connection and sharing file. So what I must do now? Must I do port forwarding?
[18:39] <dixie_bo_> Berzerker-: is ctrl+alt+f1 not a way to get to a terminal window?
[18:39] <ManDay> My terminal is very slow when scrolling - what might be the reason?
[18:39] <Berzerker-> dixie_bo_, that's not what he wants to do.
[18:39] <jp210168> dixie_bo_: what are your card's specs?
[18:39] <Berzerker-> hacktop, is the command you want to run just one line?
[18:40] <hacktop> I want to auto run a command at startup
[18:40] <dixie_bo_> jp210168:  its an on board SiS card, what specs do you need to know i'll see if i can get those
[18:40] <Berzerker-> hacktop, is it just one line? or multiple lines?
[18:40] <Otacon22> Hi all. I'm using a ssh reverse tunnel to foward some tcp ports... It works good, but after some time ssh closes.. Is there anything that I have to add into the sshd_config ? something like timeout=none ?
[18:40] <hacktop> sudo /etc/init.d/wicd star that line
[18:40] <hacktop> one line
[18:41] <seidos> I want to set up dns on my ubuntu server
[18:41] <ManDay> When I scroll a man page in my terminal, its very laggy - what might cause this?
[18:41] <abhi69> i want to use gnome-format
[18:41] <Berzerker-> hacktop, go into Startup Programs and click "add" name it whatever you want, and just type sudo /etc/init.d/wicd star as the command
[18:41] <jp210168> manday: driver issues?
[18:41] <ManDay> jp, i dont know - how could i figure out?
[18:41] <hacktop> it is KDE
[18:41] <abhi69> but i can't format my pendrive bu using it when i open it from menu
[18:41] <ManDay> @ jp210168
[18:41] <dixie_bo_> jp210168:  its an on board SiS card, what specs do you need to know i'll see if i can get those
[18:41] <kronix> !away > genii
[18:42] <jp210168> ManDay: what exactly does it do? how slow is it?
[18:42] <sascha_> Hi, is anyone experienced with multimonitor / xinerama / twinview / sli ?
[18:42] <abhi69> how can i use gnome-format as normal user & format my USB drive?
[18:42] <hacktop> my kde does not have the startup Gnome has
[18:42] <abhi69> any information?
[18:42] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone have a look at this:  http://imagebin.org/63485...I am not able to see the flash images...can anyone give me the solution
[18:42] <abhi69> olz
[18:42] <Berzerker-> hacktop, ok create a text file with that command as the only line, then save it as a .sh file and place it in /home/yourname.kde/Autostart
[18:42] <ManDay> its not THAT bad, jp210168 - but its not smooth either. and i think it should scroll smoothly, even though its just an atom processor and onboard graphics.
[18:43] <jp210168> ManDay: netbook?
[18:43] <ManDay> yes jp210168
[18:43] <jp210168> um, wow
[18:43] <ManDay> wow?
[18:43] <sascha_> ManDay, videochip?
[18:43] <gencha> i am trying to install 8.04.3 x64 on an ibm x3650 m2 server. after booting from cd into the setup, it tells me that it can't mount the cd. any pointers?
[18:43] <ManDay> intel xyz, its an eee pc
[18:43] <Turbolinux> Halitech, what I must do?
[18:43] <jp210168> intel chips, so it shouldn't be that slow
[18:43] <ManDay> i suppose it shouldnt
[18:43] <Etu> I got problems with conkeror in ubuntu, It does not rad my ~/.conkerorrc
[18:44] <abhi69> how can i use gnome-format as normal user & format my USB pendrive?
[18:44] <ManDay> its not that awful, as i said - but i expected it to be smooth
[18:44] <jp210168> there's better support for intel that nv or amd, but still....
[18:44] <ManDay> which it is not
[18:44] <abhi69> any answer?
[18:44] <jp210168> that's weird
[18:44] <sascha_> ManDay, definately not normal. try to nail it down: read xorg.log, disable compiz, use differen wm ...
[18:44] <Etu> I want to configure my conkeror :)
[18:44] <jp210168> yeah, dont use compiz with onboard gfx
[18:44] <ManDay> urgh, a little overkill. i was hoping someone had an idea sascha_
[18:44] <sascha_> jp210168, compiz works great on my intel gma950 tablet, its even rotated
[18:44] <hacktop> thank you berzerker
[18:45] <jp210168> how fast is it?
[18:45] <Pici> ManDay: When you mean laggy, do you mean that its not scrolling smoothly between lines, or does it look like its jumping a few lines at a time?
[18:45] <jp210168> im using a 8600gt card
[18:45] <moonshine> i cant install the s3 driver from anywhere...any help with that?
[18:45] <ManDay> Pici, errm both - not quite sure where the difference
[18:45] <hacktop> rebooting now
[18:45] <abhi69> i am asking again....how can i use gnome-format as normal user & format my USB pendrive?
[18:45] <sascha_> jp210168, flawless except for 1 or 2 effects (water or fire or something)
[18:46] <ManDay> Pici, sascha_, jp210168 it's smooth by the way when in a small sized window
[18:46] <jp210168> Does anyone know if the new AMD drivers for 4670 HD have improved by any?
[18:46] <moonshine> well?
[18:46] <ManDay> only in fullscreen it lags
[18:46] <jp210168> I have another card I want to use, but I have to use a 8600gt because it's sadly much faster
[18:46] <sascha_> ManDay, plz describe precisly what is lagging. would moving any large window around lag?
[18:46] <ManDay> how do i update my graphics driver?
[18:46] <Pici> ManDay: Do you have lots of compiz graphics enabled? Like transparency, blur, etc?
[18:46] <SixtyFold> anyone know why i would have ubuntu in VPC 2007, running NAT and I can use my network but I cant get a connection to the internet, like, I can use the VM to remote desktop to machines in my LAN but I cant get it to go out on the net?
[18:47] <moonshine> i cant install the s3 driver from anywhere...any help with that?
[18:47] <dixie_bo_> how do I fix this: (EE) SIS(0): Illegal video RAM size (262144K) detected, using BIOS-provided info. [symptoms are a distorted screen]
[18:47] <grawity> SixtyFold: wait, you actually managed to run Ubuntu in VPC 2007? :O
[18:47] <SixtyFold> yes
[18:47] <SixtyFold> hehe
[18:47] <ManDay> no sascha_ actually most of the stuff works smoothly - even most of the basci compiz effects. the more sophisticated effects like wobbling windows cause problems though - i hence have them disabled - i think thats normal for a netbook tho
[18:47] <jp210168> dixie_bo_: try adjusting amount of video RAM shared by graphics?
[18:47] <ManDay> Pici, i have a minimum of compiz enabled
[18:47] <SixtyFold> first of all, i accomplished that feet of getting Ubuntu 9.04 to run in Virtual PC 2007
[18:47] <jp210168> there should be an option in xorg.config
[18:47] <ManDay> mostly just the exposee and desktop wall features
[18:48] <ManDay> yes, the terminal is semi transparent
[18:48] <sascha_> ManDay, ok but you really should TURN OFF compiz to rule it out
[18:48] <SixtyFold> it only runs 896x600 screen resolution but it all works, except for the networking, which for some reason
[18:48] <linduxed> i just installed the 2.6.31 kernel and after reboot it gets all the way up to GDM, but it stops with a black screen right before loading it. Currently back at 2.6.30
[18:48] <ManDay> ok sasha, ill try
[18:48] <grawity> SixtyFold: Ah, I remember now using it once. It probably was Debian then which I never managed to run.
[18:48] <dixie_bo_> jp210168: is that via the bios or via the os?
[18:48] <SixtyFold> it will let me connect to my router with NAT, but wont go out to the internet
[18:48] <grawity> SixtyFold: In the VM settings, what is the NIC #1 set to?
[18:48] <sascha_> ManDay, even without effect just the compositor could slow things down
[18:48] <SixtyFold> i can use a VM of windows XP on the same machine, and use nat and it goes to the net fine
[18:48] <dixie_bo_> jp210168: if it helps, this computer boots up windows perfectly
[18:48] <dixie_bo_> jp210168: no distortions whatsoever.
[18:48] <jp210168> dixie_bo_: there should be an option for amount of RAM used by graphics, check xorg.config file or man s3
[18:48] <SixtyFold> grawity, what you mean what is it set to?
[18:48] <Travis-42> I've figured out how to send web browser traffic through an ssh connection. How can I do that for everything else (e.g. system updates)
[18:49] <dixie_bo_> jp210168: ok thanks
[18:49] <ManDay> sascha_, how can i turn of compiz completely?
[18:49] <SixtyFold> its my nvidia network controller
[18:49] <andrew__> how do i see what my graphic card is
[18:49] <sascha_> ManDay, in the appearance thing
[18:49] <jp210168> dixie_bo_: edit: man sis
[18:49] <jp210168> wrong man page
[18:49] <rww> linduxed: what type of graphics card do you have?
[18:49] <grawity> SixtyFold: Bridge, okay... (I thought you have set it as NAT.) and it's the same NIC that is connected to Internet?
[18:49] <SixtyFold> i tried to use that just alone, didnt even connect to the router, NAT is the only way it connects to even the router, but the router isnt showing it really
[18:49] <linduxed> rww: nvidia
[18:49] <ubuntucrashed> ahhhhhhhh!!! this is frustrating
[18:50] <ensi> hello, what happened to /etc/resolv.conf in ubuntu 9.04? how can i set dns address?
[18:50] <linduxed> rww: hmmm that could be it
[18:50] <sascha_> mandara, what version of ubuntu / intel driver do you use?
[18:50] <grawity> ensi: NetworkManager now handles such things.
[18:50] <andrew__> how do you get to your graphic hard on ubuntu
[18:50] <ensi> grawity: not installed
[18:50] <ManDay> sascha_, jp210168 i turned off compiz and it sstill lags as much as before (when in fullscreen or maximized)
[18:50] <ensi> need cmn line
[18:50] <sascha_> mandara, would scrolling a webpage lag?
[18:50] <`c00> good morning!
[18:50] <grawity> ensi: /etc/resolvconf/ then?
[18:50] <Turbolinux> Must I use SSH service for secure logging?
[18:50] <ensi> grawity: uh how does that work?
[18:50] <jp210168> ManDay: xorg.config, the option that says "AccelMethod", what do you get
[18:50] <rww> linduxed: I've been having problems with .31 and ATI, dunno about nvidia. Seems like they've been doing a lot of experimental graphics stuff in .31, so I'm gonna stay on .30.
[18:50] <grawity> ensi: I have totally no idea. (I use Arch now.)
[18:50] <grawity> Turbolinux: Basically, yes.
[18:51] <jp210168> edit: xorg.conf
[18:51] <`c00> how do you turnoff gnome without the need to restart?
[18:51] <grawity> SixtyFold: Does the VM get an IP address assigned?
[18:51] <SixtyFold> grawity, what do you mean its the same NIC thats connected to the internet?
[18:51] <SixtyFold> yes
[18:51] <ubuntucrashed> jp210168: it didnt work, it said that the aticonfig command was not f=recognized
[18:51] <SixtyFold> it gets a IP address
[18:51] <grawity> `c00: By stopping GDM.
[18:51] <ManDay> my xorg.config is empty iirc jp210168 - i ll have a look tho
[18:51] <ensi> yet again ubuntu fails to surprise, broken out of the box and old tricks do not work cause everything has been changed.
[18:51] <SixtyFold> it recognizes my router as default as well, all the normal stuff
[18:51] <ensi> ;/
[18:51] <SixtyFold> i turned off mac addressing in the router just to make sure that wasnt the reason
[18:52] <dixie_bo_> jp210168: man s3 sais there is no such man page :(
[18:52] <jp210168> dixie_bo_: man sis, sorry it was wrong one
[18:52] <ManDay> ah jeez, i shouldnt have disabled compiz now all my damn settings are lost !!!
[18:52] <moonshine> anyone helping me with s3 driver?
[18:53] <SixtyFold> like, i just loaded XP up in VPC 2007 and its running on google just fine
[18:53] <SixtyFold> if i could remote desktop a machine with ubuntu i would think it would be able to then access the internet, haha
[18:53] <g33k79> does anyone know of a pw-inspector already in the repos? 8.10
[18:54] <g33k79> well somethinglike it
[18:54] <Pici> g33k79: What is a pw-inspector?
[18:54] <Aethelred> I'm looking at Netbooks. Halitech suggested System76. Anyone else have experience or recommendations on a GNU/Linux netbook?
[18:54] <tosmo> i'm trying to run xephyr with extra keyboard and mouse via evdev. it worked with hardy, i just updated to jaunty and now i get "Failed to open evdev device". maybe it's because the underlying xorg server accesses the concerning mouse and keyboard, although i didn't configure it to do so in xorg.conf
[18:54] <g33k79> trims wordlists
[18:54] <Turbolinux> Does RealVNC support SSH service?
[18:54] <Aethelred> The System76 Starling has a pretty small screen. I would prefer one that was a little larger.
[18:55] <g33k79> like pw-inspector -m 8 -M 63 > newpasswdlist.txt
[18:56] <Travis-42> is there any way to force all of my computer's network traffic (including apt) to go through a proxy? I know how to do it on an application by application basis
[18:56] <moonshine> can anyone tell me with which version of gcc, the kernel 2.6.28-15 is compiled?
[18:56] <grawity> Travis-42: Set up it as a transparent proxy?
[18:56] <root_> can anyone help me, ubuntu 9.04 crashed on me last night, now when i boot up it says it cant load the graphical interface due to internal error????
[18:56] <g33k79> it's in BT4 pre-final bu i am not so sure about adding the repos to my install, i don't want to mess it up
[18:56] <root_> i've tried booting in recovery mode and running xfix, but that doesnt work either
[18:56] <Travis-42> grawity: I'll look up about transparent proxies, thanks
[18:56] <moonshine> can anyone tell me with which version of gcc, the kernel 2.6.28-15 is compiled?
[18:56] <grawity> Travis-42: But for what reason are you trying to do that?
[18:57] <g33k79> brb
[18:58] <simeon_> ey there, well, got a question: i got internetconnection throu a network card, and i have a "anonymizer service" that works over vpn, it ofcource requiers a internet connetion, the vpn connect alright, but then  I like to route all internet traffic thru the vpn connetion, it shows up like a device in ifconfig, ppp0. How do I do that? Iptables?
[18:58] <simeon_>  after i connected the vpn, internet traffic still goes thru the eth0 configuration
[18:58] <Pici> g33k79: I'm not familar with such an application, you could try searching the repositories yourself though.
[18:58] <nanotube> Travis-42: try system -> preferences -> network
[18:58] <grawity> simeon_: Try 'route'
[18:58] <Travis-42> grawity: well mainly seems more secure when I'm on an untrusted wireless connection
[18:58] <grawity> Travis-42: I highly doubt it.
[18:58] <Travis-42> nanotube: that doesn't apply to everything, only certain gnome applications
[18:58] <moonshine> can anyone tell me with which version of gcc, the kernel 2.6.28-15 is compiled?
[18:59] <grawity> Travis-42: If the proxy doesn't use encryption, then it adds exactly zero security.
[18:59] <Travis-42> grawity: well I'm using ssh to connect to my home PC.
[18:59] <nanotube> Travis-42: well, apt doesn't need to be "secure", since package signing keys are verified upon download, anyway.
[18:59] <ensi> dns, anyone, how to set?
[18:59] <grawity> Travis-42: ssh has an option to create a very simple VPN.
[19:00] <Travis-42> nanotube: ah, ok, well maybe that's not such a big deal then
[19:00] <Travis-42> grawity: I'll read about that too, anyways
[19:00] <nanotube> Travis-42: but as far as setting apt in particular to use proxy, it can be set in apt.conf somewhere
[19:01] <Travis-42> it also seems like it would just be simpler to convert everything at once to use the secure connection to home, rather than to go into each application individually and switch it
[19:01] <moonshine> noone helps me...
[19:01] <grawity> Travis-42: That's what a VPN does.
[19:01] <seidos> seidos: hello
[19:01] <Travis-42> ok, thank you grawity
[19:02] <moonshine> grawity, can you tell me with which version of gcc, the kernel 2.6.28-15 is compiled?
[19:02] <grawity> Travis-42: You can try setting up OpenVPN, or using the tun device support in ssh, or something else.
[19:02] <grawity> moonshine: No.
[19:02] <racha> What is best music player for ubuntu ?
[19:03] <grawity> racha: There is no "best".
[19:03] <grawity> racha: But Banshee, Amarok, Rhythmbox and Songbird seem to be the most popular ones :|
[19:03] <jeansch> racha, there is no a 'best' music player, it depends of that you want
[19:03] <moonshine> thanks :)
[19:03] <racha> grawity, something like Winamp on Windows
[19:03] <grawity> racha: For Winamp-like, try Audacious.
[19:03] <nanotube> racha: audacious
[19:03] <racha> Tnx
[19:04] <nanotube> grawity: eh, you beat me to it :P
[19:04] <nikki93> +--------------------------+
[19:04] <nikki93> |           Todo           |
[19:04] <nikki93> +--------------------------+
[19:04] <nikki93> Remember: Try to keep things as scriptable as possible. /Everything/ must be scriptable!
[19:04] <FloodBot1> nikki93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:04] <nikki93> Next
[19:06] <nikki93> ----------------------------
[19:06] <nikki93> - Cleaned up some code.
[19:06] <racha> grawity u knowe why i cant get sound with Audacious ? i can lis with standard plater :S also i cant play on Youtube i dont hear music ?
[19:06] <FloodBot1> nikki93: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:07] <yusuo> hi  can someone help me with kde
[19:08] <olinuxx> yep'
[19:08] <tobago> i try to listen to asf stream: mmsh://216.12.167.138/red967fm?MSWMExt=.asf  but my rhythmbox is not able to do. i installed xmms2-plugin-asf    but it didn't help. any idea?
[19:08] <yusuo> i need help setting up compiz and startup programs
[19:08] <Neutubuntu> Can someone tell me if it is possible to link my iBookG4 to my IntelP4 desktop via firewire in order to exchange files, both are running ubuntu 9.04 as a stand alone OS?
[19:08] <veilig> I've installed php5 and php5-curl, but now php segfaults when exiting any script.  if I comment out the curl extension in the curl.ini file everything works normal
[19:08] <w_a> any good plase to read about what the difrent users on ubuntu is for ? like what is the user irc ?
[19:10] <racha> Any1 knowe why i cant hear music on YouTube ?
[19:10] <SixtyFold> because youtube hates you
[19:10] <SixtyFold> haha
[19:10] <wathek> hello all
[19:10] <kd8JHC> racha: try restarting your browser
[19:10] <wathek> I'm looking to configure a VoIP Server any one could suggest me a good solution ?
[19:11] <dbuell> racha: can you hear sound from any other flash application?
[19:11] <racha> dbuell, i dont knowe :S ?
[19:11] <kd8JHC> wathek: check out asterisk
[19:11] <jaspion_me> boa tarde
[19:11] <racha> Dbuell, where can i find other flash app. with sound ?
[19:12] <racha> dbuell, so i can try ?
[19:12] <kd8JHC> racha: did it stop working, or did it never work?
[19:12] <dbuell> racha: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[19:12] <grawity> w_a: When Unix was first created, most "daemons" used to run under those accounts.
[19:12] <racha> kd8JHC, never :)
[19:12] <wathek> kd8JHC, ok thank you
[19:12] <Etu> Geh, I get no help here...
[19:13] <simeon_> ..
[19:13] <racha> kd8JHC, i get my 5.1 sistem to work on OSS but i cant get YouTube to work
[19:13] <bucky> racha, try installing flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound  and see if that helps..
[19:13] <grawity> w_a: For example, many Unix machines had UUCP, and the UUCP daemon used the 'uucp' account. I don't know why wasn't the account removed from today's systems though
[19:13] <kd8JHC> Etu - you might if you ask a question
[19:13] <w_a> ok
[19:13] <TDrakeHI> Where should I go for help regarding Ktorrent??
[19:13] <LjL> TDrakeHI: #kubuntu might be a better bet than here
[19:13] <Etu> kd8JHC: 19:43:56 < Etu> I got problems with conkeror in ubuntu, It does not rad my ~/.conkerorrc
[19:13] <TDrakeHI> Ktorrent being run in gnome on Jaunty
[19:13] <Etu> read*
[19:13] <racha> bucky, how to install it ?
[19:13] <mat69> does mimms work for some of you? for me it crashes (64 bit here)
[19:14] <racha> bucky, i am noob on ubuntu just started today
[19:14] <grawity> w_a: Basically, most of those accounts are still present purely for compatibility reasons: some programs still break if these accounts don't exist.
[19:14] <kermit> openoffice says my JRE is defective and it needs openoffice.org-java-common but thats already installed
[19:14] <bucky> racha, System=>Administration=>Synaptic Package Manager
[19:14] <grawity> w_a: All accounts with user IDs less than 1000 are system accounts.
[19:14] <dbuell> racha: Welcome to Ubuntu!
[19:15] <racha> lool
[19:15] <racha> :)
[19:16] <racha> bucky done i will try now
[19:16] <racha> bucky i need to reboot ?
[19:16] <w_a> thanks for the info
[19:17] <dbuell> racha: you shouldn't have to reboot after installing the flash plugin. Just restart firefox
[19:17] <benc> how do I find how many file descriptors are opened by a system user?
[19:17] <racha> dbuell maybe to install other flash plugin not Adobe ?
[19:17] <Pici> Etu: Probably best to ask in #conkeror, thats their official channel.
[19:17] <zaccour> which array kernel should i use for karmic? there isn't one for it yet and i'm using the karmic alpha
[19:17] <zaccour> yes i know ubunt+1 is the correct chat but no one answering
[19:17] <Pici> zaccour: Karmic support/discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[19:18] <Pici> zaccour: Then be patient, its offtopic for here.
[19:18] <Etu> Pici: It's ubuntu specific. It works on my gentoonoxes
[19:18] <racha> dbuell gnash or Swfdec ?
[19:18] <dbuell> racha: are you on 32-bit ubuntu or 64-bit?
[19:18] <racha> dbuell 32
[19:19] <root_> can anyone help me, ubuntu 9.04 crashed on me last night, now when i boot up it says it cant load the graphical interface due to internal error????
[19:19] <root_> i've tried booting in recovery mode and running xfix, but that doesnt work either
[19:19] <dbuell> racha: I would recommend the native flash plugin from adobe if you don't mind using free proprietary software
[19:19] <clearscreen> non-free*
[19:19] <clearscreen> :P
[19:19] <Pici> Etu: Does your conkeror.rcfile preference reference the proper path?
[19:20] <racha> dbuell, i use adobe on Windows and it work perfect , but idk why i cant get sound here :s
[19:20]  * seidos wishes videos online weren't mostly encoded in flash
[19:20] <Etu> Pici: Yes, the same path as home.
[19:21] <grawity> seidos: Actually the Flash thingie is only used as a player, because only a few browsers still support <video />
[19:21] <clearscreen> seidos: be happy they're not all silverlight.. no offense to moonlight, but it sucks hard compared to flash plugins
[19:21] <dbuell> racha: start by using synaptic package manager to remove any flash plugins
[19:21] <Pici> Etu: Using '~' in the pathname?
[19:21] <dbuell> racha: then download the .deb from http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/
[19:21] <Etu> Pici: yes
[19:21] <racha> dbuell how to remove it ? and its maybe i use OSS ?:D
[19:21] <ManDay> Can I set an animation for maximizing a window?
[19:22] <ManDay> Can I set an animation for maximizing a window in compiz?
[19:22] <root_> can anyone help me, ubuntu 9.04 crashed on me last night, now when i boot up it says it cant load the graphical interface due to internal error????
[19:22] <root_> i've tried booting in recovery mode and running xfix, but that doesnt work either
[19:22] <dbuell> racha: yes I had an issue at one point where for flash to work correctly I had to use "aoss firefox" to get sound out of firefox/flash
[19:22] <Pici> Etu: The Conkeror documentation says that it can't use that. "due to a current limitation in Conkeror's script loading code, you cannot use ~ notation for home directory when your rc is a file. Use a full path until further notification." from http://conkeror.org/ConkerorRC
[19:23] <racha> dbuell : flashplugin-installer will be removed with configuration
[19:23] <racha> flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound will be removed with configuration
[19:23] <racha> flashplugin-nonfree will be removed
[19:23] <racha> dbuell : its ok ?
[19:23] <dbuell> racha: yes that's fine
[19:23] <FistFold> well, i got ubuntu running on Virtual PC 2007, I feel good enough about that for now, time to us virtual box to actually run it and leave VPC 2007 for the windows based ones or something haha
[19:24] <Etu> Pici: I have the file in the path /home/etu/.conkerorrc, home my conkeror reads the file and works as I want, but her on this ubuntubox. nono
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:24] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  yo ho, whattya know?
[19:24] <sascha_> ManDay, grep your xorg.log for EE and WW
[19:24] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, hey
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> CBell: not much
[19:25] <ManDay> sascha_, my xorg.conf is mostly empty
[19:25] <ManDay> there is nothing in it
[19:25] <evax> hi, any launchpad translator can help me about the translation system? (Im on the #ubuntu-translators channel)
[19:25] <ManDay> just dummy lines
[19:25] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  sorry, I just realized you probably weren't talking to me :)
[19:25] <sascha_> manday, the log not the conf
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> CBell: i'll talk to anyone
[19:25] <fedel> Hi everybody...someone already tried to configure 3g Iphone??
[19:25] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  I thought you were greeting me. Anyway, I'll stay OT
[19:25] <evax> fedel!!! me I've the 3G!!
[19:25] <racha> dbuell agein nothing :S ...
[19:26] <dbuell> ok
[19:26] <racha> dbuell, maybe i need to use that oss firefox like u ?
[19:26] <fedel> evax: great...could you help me please
[19:26] <fedel> ?
[19:26] <racha> dbuell, where to get that ?
[19:26] <fedel> evax: What did u do?
[19:26] <ManDay> ah sorry
[19:26] <ManDay> sascha_, in regards to what?
[19:27] <sascha_> brb
[19:27] <ojii> hi everyone. is there any other IM client than amsn on ubuntu that supports webcams? because amsn doesn't work (at least the webcam part)
[19:27] <dbuell> racha: before we do that lets check a few things
[19:27] <sascha_> manday ww and ee
[19:27] <racha> dbuell ok :)
[19:27] <ManDay> sascha_, i mean in regards to what problem i have?
[19:27] <dbuell> racha: go to system>preferences>sound
[19:27] <thiebaude> !emphathy
[19:27] <root_> pokemon
[19:27] <racha> dbuell and ?
[19:28] <thiebaude> !empathy
[19:28] <thiebaude> darn
[19:28] <root_> ubotto has no feelings
[19:28] <dbuell> racha: test the headings Sound events, music and movies
[19:28] <bucky> !sympathy
[19:28] <sobczyk> hi , is it possible to upgrade to 9.10?
[19:28] <mbeierl> !feelings
[19:28] <thiebaude> !irc
[19:28] <racha> dbuell : audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application.
[19:28] <bucky> !info empathy
[19:29] <thiebaude> thanks bucky
[19:29] <ctmjr> !msgthebot
[19:29] <root_> !flood
[19:29] <racha> dbuell, when i stop music it work ... ok ... next
[19:29] <bucky> !apathy
[19:29] <dbuell> racha: you tested both?
[19:30] <root_> !lethargicx
[19:30] <racha> dbuell all work
[19:30] <dbuell> racha: what are the dropdowns set too?
[19:30] <wokka> I'm unable to disable bold in my xterm when using truetype fonts
[19:30] <fccf> root_: welcome to ubuntu support ... FYI .. It seems you are running your IRC client as root ... THIS IS A MAJOR SECURITY RISK ... you are opening up your system to being hacked
[19:30] <ManDay> no EE, but WW: http://manday.pastebin.com/m5e8963e7
[19:30] <bucky> !ignorance
[19:30] <ManDay> could that cause my xterm to be slow in scrolling?
[19:30] <racha> dbuell dropdown ?:S
[19:31] <root_> fccf: mmmmm im on live cd...
[19:31] <McShane> mmm cds
[19:31] <pg> min mic funkar inte i ubuntu vad gör jag?
[19:31] <dbuell> racha: in the sound preferences to the left of the "test" button you can click to select which audio device it uses
[19:32] <Pici> !sv | pg
[19:32] <sascha_> ManDay, did you do it?
[19:32] <root_> if anyone wants to hack me please do so, and fix my laptop while your at it...i cant load GUI, i boot up on tty due to "internal error"
[19:32] <fccf> root_: that is interesting .. I'm gunna have to run a test on that one
[19:32] <racha> dbuell : C-media CMI8768 C-Media PCI DAC/ADC (OSS)
[19:32] <halberd> I just got the latest upgrade to firefox but now firefox no longer runs
[19:32] <root_> fccf: run a test and fix it..
[19:32] <root_> :(
[19:32] <fccf> root_: you might want to consider using the alternate install cd
[19:33] <seidos> what is the relationship between realtek and intel regarding sound?
[19:33] <pg> ja
[19:33] <root_> fccf: im using backtrack 3 live cd
[19:33] <wokka> how does one install the code prereqs for a package again?  Like, if I want to build xterm from source?
[19:33] <sascha_> wokka apt-get build-dep xterm
[19:33] <ManDay> yes sascha_
[19:33] <Pici> wokka: sudo apt-get build-dep xterm
[19:33] <Mokesnap> i just upgraded firefox also and now it wont start as well
[19:33] <ManDay> you disappeared sascha_
[19:33] <ManDay> http://manday.pastebin.com/m5e8963e7
[19:33] <fccf> root_: thats why you are running as root... and backtrack isn't supported here
[19:33] <genii> seidos: Intel makes the chips that go into Realtek sound products
[19:33] <racha> dbuell : u are here ?
[19:34] <McShane> halberd, try running FF from a terminal to check for errors
[19:34] <wokka> sascha_: excellent thx
[19:34] <Etu> Pici: Does not work
[19:34] <root_> fccf: im running backtrack because my ubuntu crashed, this is the only way for me to resolve my issue with ubuntu
[19:34] <halberd> no errors McShane it just opens a window but there's nothing in the window
[19:34] <root_> fccf: bt3 comes packaged with xchat, which is what im using
[19:34] <pg> Den visar rätt sound
[19:35] <Pici> Etu: I'm not sure what to suggest then, I personally don't use conkeror, and I only have ssh access here to test with.  Maybe the folks in their support channel have seen this before.
[19:35] <Etu> psywiped: http://pastebin.com/m3b8dbc25
[19:35] <sascha_> ManDay, come to #manday
[19:35] <dbuell> racha: try closing all of your firefoxes and start "sudo firefox" from your terminal
[19:35] <Omar87> My sources.list is very messed up, is there an easy way to clean it?
[19:35] <fccf> root: and the ubuntu live cd? not sure backtrack is going to help you ... we are going to need some details if anybody is going to be able to help you
[19:35] <pg> Sound output is ok but not input?
[19:35] <racha> dbuell nothing
[19:36] <shane2peru> Omar87: the best way would have been to back it up
[19:36] <dbuell> racha: was there any error messages output to the commandline where you opened firefox?
[19:36] <racha> no
[19:36] <racha> dbuell : no
[19:36] <shane2peru> Omar87: that being said, use GUI, System -> Administration -> Software sources
[19:37] <Mokesnap> that fixed my firefox
[19:37] <shane2peru> Omar87: you can look for doubles, and fix stuff there very easily.
[19:37] <dbuell> racha: We can try the aoss like I did, but my system didn't default to oss mine defaulted to alsa which is why I needed oss for firefox..
[19:38] <dbuell> racha: it would be a shot in the dark
[19:38] <Defcon> #remote-exploit
[19:38] <dbuell> racha: not my favorite kind
[19:38] <dbuell> racha: use synaptic package manager to install the package "alsa-oss"
[19:38] <Daimonic> Hey I have some troubles with my wifi connection, when I start to connect to my access point, I enter the passwort, after 1-2min trieing to connect, I am called to enter the password again. When I click "show password" it is a complete other as I've entered and so on... is this a known problem?
[19:38] <racha> dbuell my was to on alsa
[19:39] <pg> ok!
[19:39] <shane2peru> Omar87: are you using juanty?
[19:39] <halberd> I'm going to reboot
[19:39] <racha> dbuell: done
[19:39] <shane2peru> Omar87: how bad to you mess it up?
[19:40] <racha> dbuell: i need to try now or ?
[19:40] <dbuell> racha: now in the bash prompt use "aoss firefox"
[19:40] <racha> dbuell bash prompt ?
[19:40] <dbuell> racha: of course make sure there is no firefox running before you do that
[19:40] <thiebaude> !bash
[19:40] <dbuell> racha: terminal
[19:40] <ManDay> how can i change the delay with which menus pop up?
[19:40] <root_> fccf: well my issue is this: last night i updated ubuntu 9.04 by running these two commands - apt-get ugrade & apt-get update...during the update my laptop crashed due to "temperature reached" and ever since, everytime i boot i get this error message saying that it load up x window due to internal error, and then automatically goes in tty
[19:41] <ManDay> when i hover over a menu category for example, i want the submenu to open IMMEDIATELY
[19:41] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:41] <racha> dbuell nothing maybe reboot ?
[19:41] <root_> it wont load**
[19:41] <Guest19212> can anybody help me with installing rt2870sta wifi driver for my alfa card
[19:41] <Guest19212> ?
[19:41] <racha> dbuell : no sound agein :S
[19:41] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, wassup
[19:41] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: nm
[19:42] <Guest19212> did u install alsa driver for sound
[19:42] <dbuell> racha: give it a try. Normally Ubuntu doesn't require reboots for much of anything, but it's worth a shot!
[19:42] <racha> dbuell: just a sec :)
[19:42] <Threetimes> Hi, I just added a raid-1 array in my ubuntu server 8.04 using a cheap sata-raid-controller. What will happen if one of the drives fail?
[19:43] <cornet> Threetimes: i highly recommend you use software raid rather than "cheap sata-raid-controller"
[19:43] <Anzo> Hello, I am having trouble with kino, it refuses to load. I have run a purge and a reinstall. Have also installed via synaptic and updated afterward. No dice
[19:43] <Zas> wenas de nuevo, estoy desesperado cn el snort, no hay forma de crear una base de datos de lso logs, en el servidor apache, con mysql y soportado por el acid                   ESTE ES EL PROBLEMA http://pastebin.com/d61d7f5ed
[19:43] <thiebaude> !es
[19:43] <sebsebseb> !es |  Zas
[19:43] <shane2peru> !english | Zas
[19:43] <Threetimes> cornet: it's already up and running. It just works.
[19:43] <Zas> sorry
[19:44] <cornet> Threetimes: you don't want to be worrying about hdd fail - you want to be worrying about controller fail
[19:44] <Zas> i have problems with Snort, i cant confiure it http://pastebin.com/d61d7f5ed
[19:44] <sobczyk> is there netbeans 6.7 package for ubuntu 9.04?
[19:44] <cornet> Threetimes: if your controller fails there is a good chance you can kiss goodbye to your data unless you can get an identical controller
[19:44] <Threetimes> cornet: the controller is brand new. the disks are old, and the data is valuable
[19:44] <Guest19212> an someone please help me with installing rt2870sta - usb driver for my alfa card i have looked on google for ever tryed other peoples commands but i cant get it
[19:44] <dbuell> not yet | sobczyk
[19:45] <racha> dbuell : dotn work agein
[19:45] <halfmoon> i have same problem as guest 19212
[19:45] <Threetimes> cornet: huh? I can't use the disks as stand-alone disks anymore?
[19:45] <cornet> Threetimes: depending on the controller - possibly not
[19:45] <halfmoon> There is nowhere a simple step by step tutorial
[19:45] <dbuell> racha: hmmm... give me a second
[19:45] <cornet> Threetimes: also if the data is valuable make sure it's backed up
[19:45] <racha> dbuell: ok .. u will be here in 1-1.5 hr because i gtg
[19:46] <dbuell> racha: ok
[19:46] <racha> dbuell : cya tnx anyway :)
[19:46] <Threetimes> The data was already on one of the disks, nothing changed there when building the raid array. I think the data itself has't changed a bit. And i'm currently looking at a backup solution.
[19:46] <halfmoon> Does anyone know where i driver compile and or install step by step tutorial is?
[19:46] <cornet> Threetimes: and in answer to your original question - i don't know - ideally you would just replace the disk and it'll sync up, but you'll have to check the manual
[19:46] <thiebaude> !compile
[19:47] <Threetimes> Tha manual is 5 pages, of wich 4 pages cover the driver installation in windows...
[19:47] <halfmoon> ok thanks
[19:47] <cornet> Threetimes: nice :(
[19:47] <ubuntu> hey, im having trouble repartitioning a  harddrive with gparted. a livecd running gparted reported erroneus data, whereas a livecd running ubuntu with gparted says the right thing, a 75gb ntfs drive but says it's dirty and needs a fsck/chkdsk, which I ran and there were no errors. it wont let me resize the drive, any ideas?
[19:47] <cornet> Threetimes: i would sort out backup solution then do some testing
[19:47] <Threetimes> cornet: it's a http://www.sweex.com/PU103
[19:47] <root_> fccf: well my issue is this: last night i updated ubuntu 9.04 by running these two commands - apt-get ugrade & apt-get update...during the update my laptop crashed due to "temperature reached" and ever since, everytime i boot i get this error message saying that it cant load up x window due to internal error, and then automatically goes in tty
[19:47] <halfmoon> USE VISTA TO PARTITION M8
[19:47] <halfmoon> lots easyer
[19:48] <fedel> other question...I have windows in my virtual box...But the USB is not working on it?
[19:48] <fedel>  the USB is not working on it!! Why?
[19:48] <arand> ubuntu: If it's an ntfs, have you run chkdisk from within windows?
[19:48] <ubuntu> arand: no, I ran chkdsk from a bart-pe disk
[19:48] <Pici> fedel: USB is not supported in the ose edition of virtualbox, you'd need the version from sun to use USB.
[19:48] <Pici> !vbox > fedel
[19:49] <dbuell> !
[19:49] <cornet> Threetimes: not touched SATA RAID controllers in years - i either use high-end SCSI controllers or software RAID
[19:49] <Threetimes> cornet: but does software RAID mean my CPU has to do all the raid-calculation-work? It's a, euhmmm, P3 coppermine@675MHz
[19:50] <cornet> Threetimes: i've run software RAID on a 600MHz celeron with little impact on performance
[19:50] <Threetimes> It's a extremely-low-budget-partly-third-hand-hobby-thing
[19:51] <cornet> Threetimes: only way you're going to know for sure what happens is to test it I'm afraid
[19:51]  * aaron116 is going to watch southpark and stupid assholes are putting fireworks behind his house >:(
[19:51] <aaron116> :@
[19:51] <thiebaude> lol
[19:51] <Threetimes> testing means removing the power when the system is running?
[19:52] <cornet> Threetimes: well more checking what happens if you remove a disk, format it and replace it
[19:52] <cornet> Threetimes: obviously back up your data firsst!
[19:52] <Threetimes> duh!
[19:52] <cornet> Threetimes: you'd be surprised ;)
[19:53] <ubuntu> hey, im having trouble repartitioning a  harddrive with gparted. a livecd running gparted reported erroneus data, whereas a livecd running ubuntu with gparted says the right thing, a 75gb ntfs drive but says it's dirty and needs a fsck/chkdsk, which I ran and there were no errors. it wont let me resize the drive, any ideas?
[19:53] <cornet> Threetimes: when i get new RAID arrays here - i'll but a stress test on them and remove a disk while it's running
[19:53] <Threetimes> cornet: your boss pays?
[19:53] <halfmoon> YES UBUNTU USE VISTA TO REPARTITION
[19:53] <ubuntu> halfmoon: can vista repartition without eraising the data?
[19:53] <cornet> Threetimes: if they die/crash/can't rebuild the array then they get sent back
[19:54] <halfmoon> yes
[19:54] <halfmoon> All you do is open up built in manager
[19:54] <halfmoon> and allocate a new parition
[19:54] <halfmoon> doesnt erase hardrive
[19:54] <Threetimes> ah... I can't do that... extremely-low-budget means no budget...
[19:54] <halfmoon> when installing ubuntu
[19:54] <halfmoon> make sure you use more then just one parition
[19:54] <Threetimes> !enter | halfmoon
[19:55] <halfmoon> sry
[19:55] <mordof> ubuntu: if you already have data on that partition that you're trying to resize - as far as i'm aware, it can't resize.. only create new from unpartitioned space
[19:55] <ubuntu> mordof: yeah, tahts the problem. thats why i wanted to resize it first. i have an XP partition, and i want to shrink it and put ubuntu on there, but gparted wont allow me
[19:55] <Keiichi> hello, sorry for disturbing. do you know any sociable channels here?
[19:56] <Naikrovek> some dudes were telling me that ubuntu isn't good as a server os last night.  i laughed and laughed.  then i laughed some more
[19:56] <cornet> Keiichi: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:56] <prince_jammys> Keiichi: #ubuntu-offtopic, #defocus.
[19:56] <halfmoon> Im not sure if xp has built in partitioner like vista but if it does look up on google
[19:56] <Keiichi> ok, thanks
[19:56] <mordof> halfmoon: it does, and it can't resize
[19:56] <n00b81> Keiichi: just talking in general, or ubuntu related offtopicness? :)
[19:56] <cornet> halfmoon: it does under administrator tools
[19:56] <erUSUL> ubuntu: maybe the partition is mounted... umount it first. Gparted can move data around if needed btw
[19:56] <mordof> halfmoon: any modifications you make to a partition with that manager will erase data
[19:56] <thiebaude> Keiichi, #category5
[19:56] <halfmoon> ok sry vista has that fun option :)
[19:57] <ubuntu> halfmoon: vista cant resize either without erasing data. thats why i want to use ubuntu to do it, plus im going to be using grub as my bootloader
[19:57] <Naikrovek> vista CAN resize without destroying data, I think win7 certainly can
[19:57] <mordof> they really added that? o.o
[19:57] <AryehGregor> Anything should be able to resize without destroying data, if it can recognize the filesystem.
[19:57] <halfmoon> i would suggest looking up a third party partitioner that can do that on google if im wrong mordof will know
[19:57] <Keiichi> i am on windows now, but is ubuntu have any irc clinet installed?
[19:57] <mordof> that's surprising
[19:57] <ubuntu> erUSUL: i checked, it is not mounted. i can give you the error flag that it gives me
[19:57] <cornet> Naikrovek: not if the parition it's resizing is != NTFS or FAT32
[19:58] <AryehGregor> Keiichi, you can install tons, just search for IRC in Add/Remove Applications.
[19:58] <erUSUL> ubuntu: if it is large use pastebin
[19:58] <GLG> in jaunty, does any1 know the new command for linkstatus with conky?
[19:58] <cornet> Naikrovek: the partition software needs to know about the filesystem in order to do the resize
[19:58] <Naikrovek> cornet: well of course not.  you can't even run win7 on anything but NTFS
[19:58] <dbuell> Keiichi: Ubuntu has pidgin for IRC
[19:58] <Keiichi> ok, thanks i will check, reboot
[19:58] <AryehGregor> Pidgin for IRC is evil.  Use XChat or KVIRC or something.
[19:58] <mordof> halfmoon: gparted is the linux partition manager, which is what he's trying to use, but it's throwing errors working with a 'dirty' partition.. or unmounted is my guess..
[19:58] <mordof> ubuntu: did the partition get locked open from an unclean shutdown?
[19:58] <cornet> AryehGregor: or irssi :)
[19:59] <halfmoon> ohhhhh ok
[19:59] <Lancien>  re
[19:59] <AryehGregor> mordof, if it says it's dirty, just start up Windows so it will remount it cleanly.
[19:59] <halfmoon> see i understood only the basics of his issue
[19:59] <AryehGregor> Or ubuntu or whoever has the problem.
[19:59] <mordof> AryehGregor: yeah
[19:59] <GLG> who knows conky?? need help plz
[19:59] <AryehGregor> cornet, I was figuring that if he asked that kind of question, he'd prefer not to use irssi for now.  :)
[19:59] <ubuntu> mordof:  AryehGregor, no, it was a clean shutdown.
[19:59] <AryehGregor> ubuntu, what does the error say?  That it's unclean?
[20:00] <jordanwb> when a user logs into my server via ssh, how to I jail them into their home directory?
[20:00] <Anzo> hello everyone, i am having trouble installing kino and dv grab from tar.gz
[20:00] <mordof> AryehGregor: yeah, normally it'll say it's locked open.. but a 'dirty' partition or whatever was the problem isa  bit different
[20:00] <mordof> i'm not quite sure what the problem is
[20:00] <ubuntu> gparted says "WARNING: This disk has bad sectors. This means physical damage on the disk sufrface caused by etc, etc, etc" Recommend you chdksk /r. I ran a chkdsk via bart-pe and it didnt find any errors
[20:00] <ubuntu> kind of baffled
[20:00] <AryehGregor> jordanwb, kind of tricky, since they typically need to be able to access /bin, /usr, etc.  Why do you want to do this?
[20:01] <mordof> ubuntu: did you include the /r flag?
[20:01] <halfmoon> oh you know what i had that same problem
[20:01] <ubuntu> mordof:  yes indeed
[20:01] <halfmoon> at one point
[20:01] <kasha> hi
[20:01] <Anzo> Ubuntu i have noticed the issue when it comes to bad windows installs
[20:01] <kasha> where is pidgin directory ???
[20:01] <halfmoon> i would suggest a disk defrag
[20:01] <jordanwb> AryehGregor: mainly I don't want them browsing the other user's home directory
[20:01] <halfmoon> helped me
[20:01] <kasha> i nead to read all journal
[20:01] <AryehGregor> jordanwb, Unix permissions don't allow them to.
[20:01] <Anzo> Ubuntu go ahead and try and do a quick format via ntfs on a windows machine and install
[20:01] <kasha> ubuntu 9/04
[20:01] <mordof> anzo: he's got data he's trying to save
[20:01] <AryehGregor> jordanwb, just make sure all other users' home directories are go-x, like: chmod go-x /home/* as root.
[20:01] <zzOOOzz> Hi guys, is there any french people here who could give me tips about building a homemade Numericable decoder?
[20:01] <Anzo> Oh
[20:02] <Anzo> sorry
[20:02] <ubuntu> Anzo: I'm trying not to wipe out my XP partition
[20:02] <cornet> jordanwb: you'll either need to install openssh-server 5 or set the umask correctly
[20:02] <zzOOOzz> (sorry I know it's not really the topic here)
[20:02] <AryehGregor> Or you can set it -r instead of -x, depending.
[20:02] <Anzo> Are you trying to repartition all back to windows
[20:02] <ubuntu> Anzo: I'm trying to create a drive to put Ubuntu on, I have XP installed. im on an ubuntu livecd right now
[20:02] <jordanwb> AryehGregor: right now my user (which was created during install) can browse the other user's home directory
[20:03] <mordof> zzOOOzz: can't help you with that, sorry.. a) not french, b) not 100% sure what a numericable decoder would do
[20:03] <AryehGregor> jordanwb, what's the output of "sudo ls -lh /home"?
[20:03] <mordof> jordanwb: then the permissions on that user are set wrong o.o
[20:03] <Anzo> Ok i have hit this issue before the solution was a reformat sadly. But you can try and defrag in windows, and then runs a disk check then install
[20:03] <dbuell> zzOOOzz: #ubuntu-fr
[20:03] <ubuntu> Anzo:  Ok thanks anyways.
[20:03] <Anzo> it wont install because the windows os is so spread out ubuntu doesnt want to replace a system file so it cant find enough space to install
[20:04] <jordanwb> AryehGregor: right now after running your command, my user cannot see what files are in what dir, only the dir themselves
[20:04] <AryehGregor> jordanwb, what do you mean?
[20:04] <tosmo> can i configure the hal-system not to use certain input devices at all?
[20:04] <G_A_C> Anzo: have you thought about running a defrag tool in windows and forcing all your data to the top of the partition? I believe JKDefrag can do this, and it's free
[20:04] <_delirium> I installed the latest Ubuntu 9.04 updates over the last couple of days and now Firefox wont run - if i launch it from bash shell it says "Bus error" - any ideas how I can fix this?
[20:04] <Anzo> G_A_C that should be sent do Ubuntu
[20:04] <jordanwb> AryehGregor: as non-root, I can see the folders in another user's directory, but not the files themselves.
[20:05] <G_A_C> Anzo: sorry, that was for ubuntu  :)
[20:05] <G_A_C> got your nicks mixed up as I was reading it
[20:05] <Anzo> Ubuntu G_A_C has another program that will do the same thing i suggested
[20:05] <AryehGregor> jordanwb, what does "sudo ls -al /home" output?
[20:05] <ubuntu> G_A_C: That's a thought, is there a defrag tool in Ubuntu I can use? Kinda lazy to switch OSes :)
[20:05] <mordof> anyone know how to turn off the '<user> has left', entered from being shown in pidgin?
[20:05] <jordanwb> drwxr--r-- for bother users' home folders
[20:06] <cornet> jordanwb: edit /etc/profile at the bottom of the file you'll see "umask 022" change this to "umask 077" which means all new files/folders will be read/write ONLY by the user that created them
[20:06] <thecarlhall> Anybody using Karmic?  Is it stable enough to use on the regular assuming the usual 'it's alpha so beware'?
[20:06] <mordof> ubuntu: i believe JKDefrag was mentioned? i think
[20:06] <erUSUL> !karmic | thecarlhall
[20:06] <cornet> thecarlhall: best asking that in #ubuntu+1
[20:06] <AryehGregor> jordanwb, you could do "chmod 700 /home/*".  Or 711 instead of 700.
[20:06] <G_A_C> ubuntu, I don't believe so, no. And I would rather defrag NTFS from its native operating system, that's pretty IO intensive and I'd hate to show up an ntfs-3g bug in ubuntu
[20:06] <thecarlhall> cornet: thanks
[20:06] <cornet> thecarlhall: np
[20:06] <jordanwb> AryehGregor: okay thanks
[20:06] <ubuntu> mordof:  i think that was mentioned as a free windows program
[20:06] <ubuntu> G_A_C: that is a good point. thanks man
[20:06] <AryehGregor> cornet, that shouldn't be necessary if they're in a 700 /home . . .
[20:07] <mordof> ubuntu: ah, ok
[20:07] <cornet> AryehGregor: if they know the full path to the file then they can still read/write/execute it if the permissions allow
[20:07] <AryehGregor> cornet, not if /home is -x for them.
[20:07] <AryehGregor> cornet, -x on a directory doesn't allow navigation to even a known filename below it.
[20:07] <Anzo> Ok, so i seem to be having issues with some packages installing. The make command isnt working and i think i am just missing something
[20:08] <dbuell> Anzo: you are going to need to be a bit more specific.
[20:08] <trism> mordof: there is apparently a join/part plugin you can load to hide them
[20:08] <AryehGregor> cornet, $ mkdir /tmp/test; touch /tmp/test/test; chmod 666 /tmp/test; touch /tmp/test/test
[20:08] <AryehGregor> touch: cannot touch `/tmp/test/test': Permission denied
[20:08] <Anzo> I am attempting to install kino 1.3.4 as the older version decided to start chashing on me
[20:08] <kasha> hey guys! can sumbody tell me where is pidgin directory?? need help a lot! thanx
[20:08] <dreamborn> My sound is just putting out static. My headphones work in windows but not ubuntu, all i get is light static
[20:08] <Anzo> When i attempt to install /run the make command after configure i get
[20:08] <mordof> trism: :o any chance you have a link?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: add sudo to the start of each command
[20:09] <nanotube> Anzo: did you install build-essential package?
[20:09] <nanotube> Anzo: and all the other dependencies?
[20:09] <trism> mordof: it is installed by default, just go to tools/plugins and enable it
[20:09] <Anzo> Nano i am reading the instructions and everyting but libiec6388 installed
[20:10] <gustavonarea> Hi. I have a free/unused partition on a server. How can I enable it (with ext4 and encrypted) from the CLI?
[20:10] <Anzo> nanotube havent done the build-es
[20:10] <nanotube> Anzo: well, get build-essentials first. then see what happens :)
[20:10] <mordof> trism: oh very nice, ty :D
[20:10] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: mount it ? just add a line for it to fstab
[20:10] <cornet> AryehGregor: ah yer of course
[20:10] <erUSUL> !fstab | gustavonarea
[20:10] <Anzo> nanotube trying right now
[20:11] <King> does any-one know where i can get latest updates for jaunty acpi and kernel
[20:11] <dreamborn> My sound is just putting out static. My headphones work in windows but not ubuntu, all i get is light static
[20:11] <mordof> trism: with 1490.. people in here, those notices were coming up way too frequently, making it hard to follow, lol
[20:11] <dbuell> kasha: the binary is normally located in /usr/bin and the libs are normally located in /usr/lib/pidgin
[20:11] <nanotube> Anzo: after that, you can run "sudo apt-get build-dep kino" which will automatically pull in all the development libraries needed to build kino. (if you're still missing any)
[20:12] <Anzo> nanotube does it change anything if i am on 64bit
[20:12] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: Sorry; actually it's not even a partition. It's a unused space on the harddisk for which I want to create a partition
[20:12] <erUSUL> mordof: use a "real" irc client like x-chat (not the gnome version) or even chatzilla (inside firefox)
[20:12] <nanotube> Anzo: don't think so...
[20:12] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: you have gui ?
[20:12] <mordof> erUSUL: but... pidgin is colorful xD lol
[20:12] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: no
[20:12] <Darael> King: the repositories?  If what you need isn't there, you could try enabling -proposed and/or -backports, though that's not usually recommended.
[20:12] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: use parted then
[20:13] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: but better do it from a livecd.
[20:13] <dreamborn> My sound is just putting out static. My headphones work in windows but not ubuntu, all i get is light static
[20:13] <Anzo> nanotube the build essentials is giving me a couldnt find package err
[20:13] <kasha> dbuell, i need history file
[20:13] <erUSUL> mordof: :P
[20:14] <Anzo> nanotube proper command: sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[20:14] <nanotube> mordof: trism:  you don't have to get a different irc client. if using xchat-gnome, just right click on the channel in the list, and uncheck "show join/part messages". simple as that.
[20:14] <clearscreen> What was that command to append a line of text to a file ?
[20:14] <austin_work> anyone familiar with udev? I'm working on automated backup script, that recognizes the external hd by serial number. It works fine, but when plugging in a similar drive (same model/etc.), with a *different* serial number, the backup script is still run
[20:14] <King> Darael: I've already enabled backports
[20:14] <Pici> Anzo: Its build-essential, no s at the end.
[20:14] <nanotube> Anzo: ehrm, it could be build-essential (without the s)
[20:14] <kermit> clearscreen: echo text >> file
[20:14] <erUSUL> clearscreen: echo "line" >> file
[20:14] <Anzo> thanks
[20:14] <mordof> erUSUL: as far as i'm concerned, a 'real' irc client is whatever works.   nanotube: pidgin has a way to take care of that, problem already solved :)
[20:14] <austin_work> part of the rule is ' ID_SERIAL_SHORT=="1234wxyz" '
[20:14] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: I can't; there's no CD reader (I installed Ubuntu via PXE). Does it make a big difference?
[20:14] <clearscreen> kermit / erUSUL: I wasn't even aware of '>>', thanks :P
[20:15] <dbuell> kasha: check your ~/.purple/ directory
[20:15] <nanotube> mordof: ok cool. :) didn't know what you were using...
[20:15] <Anzo> nanotube already had it up to date
[20:15] <nanotube> Anzo: ah, ok... in that case, get all the build-deps using that other command
[20:16] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: it shouldn't... but still the partition table is going to be edited so some care is good
[20:16] <kermit> erUSUL: how is some firefox plugin called 'chatzilla' more 'real' of an irc client than pidgin?
[20:16] <wildc4rd_> evening all
[20:16] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: ok, thank you!
[20:16] <kasha> vegantom, hi!
[20:16] <Anzo> nanotube that is working, do i then go back through and try /confi and then a make or do i just proceed to make in the kino directory?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> hi wildc4rd_
[20:16] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: parted has mkpart and mkfs commands with them you can create the new parition and fs in one go iirc
[20:17] <nanotube> Anzo: never hurts to run another ./configure ;)
[20:17] <dbuell> kasha: did that work for you?
[20:17] <Anzo> nanotube thanks
[20:17] <gustavonarea> Is it OK to create a *file* swap on an encrypted partition?
[20:17] <mordof> kermit: lol, you raise an interesting point
[20:17] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: cool, thanks :)
[20:17] <GLG> is there someone who can help me figure out something for conky?
[20:17] <nanotube> GLG: ask your specific question, and you'll find out ;)
[20:17] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: a little bit convoluted but should work (in the name of ortoganility=
[20:18] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, why would I add sudo?  That would ruin the demonstration.  Obviously root ignores traversal permissions.
[20:18] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: Will it work even after suspend?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: its not root, its sudo ;)
[20:18] <GLG> i can't use linkstatus what is it's equal?
[20:18] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: suspend to disk ?
[20:18] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: to ram
[20:19] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, if you run a command using sudo, the command will run as root.
[20:19] <AryehGregor> So, yes, it is root.
[20:19] <kasha> dbuell, u saved my life) u rock! thanx %)
[20:19] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: i do not see why it should matter in the s2ram case
[20:19] <sebsebseb> !sudo |  AryehGregor
[20:19] <halfmoon> Damn im so confused on what i should do / where to start. Im trying to get my WUSB600N working in linux and need to install kernel.lzm and also install driver nemesis in windows its a snap in linux its rocket science
[20:19] <dbuell> kasha: np
[20:19] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: hmm according to the bot it is root hmm
[20:19] <AryehGregor> sebsebseb, I know what sudo is, yes, thank you.
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: so its does, my bad
[20:20] <CBell> er AryehGregor is right ...
[20:20] <AryehGregor> . . .
[20:20] <CBell> my god, sometimes this channel is so ...
[20:20] <AryehGregor> $ ls -lh /usr/bin/sudo
[20:20] <AryehGregor> -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 113K 2009-02-16 22:22 /usr/bin/sudo
[20:20] <GLG> conky does not accept linkstatus or wireless_link as commands
[20:20] <CBell> the blind leading the blind
[20:20] <sebsebseb> AryehGregor: yeah ActionParsnip knows what sudo is as well
[20:20] <AryehGregor> rwsr-xr-x = setuid root
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: if you want access to a folder in /tmp then create a folder using sudo then give the user access somehow
[20:20] <kholzer> CBell: yeah, honestly.
[20:20] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: you're right. And it'd make a difference with hibernate?
[20:20] <kholzer> CBell: Thats why I'm here (I'm blind), but noone has run into me yet.
[20:20] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, thank you for the advice, but I was demonstrating a fact about Unix permissions.  What you replied to is not related to any problem I'm having.
[20:20] <J_P> hi all
[20:21] <kholzer> ;[
[20:21] <kholzer> Hello J_P
[20:21] <J_P> People, I install ubuntu server 9.04. and after install xorg and icewm. well, startx works ok. But resolutions are there in 1024x768, and I would like 800x600. But /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty. where are the Xorg configurations ?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: either with group membership or give ownership to the user
[20:21] <AryehGregor> My actual problem was (3rd repost): What might it mean if my machine locks up; responds to pings but SSH times out; Alt-SysRq REISUB lets me reboot with clean filesystems; but Alt-SysRq-K doesn't restart the session, and there's nothing relevant in syslog?
[20:21] <kermit> halfmoon: if common hardware doesnt work in linux, it's probably because the manufacturer doesnt want it to.
[20:21] <CBell> kholzer,  heh well I'd help, but I'm about to abuse ActionParsnip  so I'll probably get kicked
[20:21] <AryehGregor> But I've come to realize that if I can't figure something out, this channel isn't likely to be much help.
[20:21] <halfmoon> So should i take it back?
[20:21] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: really dunno; i spect to be buggy if it works at all... but is a server. do you suspend your servers ?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: try reading /var/log/kern.log
[20:21] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  i want you to stop giving out such cruddy advice. You are taking the channel so far down it may never recover
[20:22] <J_P> kholzer: you know?
[20:22] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  dude, you really are a half wit. I'm sorry, someone has to tell you
[20:22] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, nothing relevant.  Isn't that effectively a subset of syslog?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> CBell: i enjoy my halfwittedness
[20:22] <kholzer> J_P: hmm....
[20:22] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  yeah, but other ppl don't
[20:22] <halfmoon> I guess im taking it back....i opened the box though....heh
[20:22] <Naikrovek> i'm new here, but if one person can bring it down it wasn't that good to start with
[20:22] <kanallista> #murcia
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: it should be the kernel logs. I think they persist after reboot so should be a good place to start diagnosis
[20:23] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, . . .
[20:23] <kholzer> J_P: Could you write one?  Sometimes there's an xorg.conf.example and no xorg.conf.... I seem to remember a curses tool for generating one.
[20:23] <AryehGregor> I'm going to have to go with CBell here, I'm afraid.
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: does a memory test pass ok?
[20:23] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  anyway, I've got to take this higher. I've been watching you for a week now giving out really crap advice
[20:23] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: this one, yes. It's only used in a office (from monday to friday). And Wake-on-LAN only seems to work with hibernate and suspend; not with power off :/
[20:23] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  no offense, I know you are trying to help
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> CBell: takes a lot to offend me
[20:24] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, do you have any actual reason to think memory might be the culprit?  Because I'm not really interested in leaving my computer off for hours to test my memory.
[20:24] <CBell> ActionParsnip,  i can see .... dude, get a grip. It's not his memory ...
[20:24] <kholzer> J_P: You know what I mean with the curses tool?  You say it works at 1024x768?
[20:24] <CBell> arrrrrrrrrgh
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: id say it was possible as the apps run in ram. Is there a certain combination of apps that make it fall over?
[20:24] <Astine> vi vs emacs which is better for editing files in the command line?
[20:24] <kholzer> J_P: You could also strace it I could help you go over logs looking for a configuration file.
[20:24] <AryehGregor> CBell, out of curiosity, who can you talk to about this kind of thing?  Is ActionParsnip some officially-appointed helper or just some random dude who gives out help?
[20:24] <nuunuu> i want man pages for malloc, select etc installed. Which packges have them?
[20:24] <CBell> i really can't take this. Fuck ubuntu. I'm going for debian. The ppl know what they are talking about
[20:24] <AryehGregor> . . .
[20:24] <kholzer> Astine: Bad question....
[20:25] <kholzer> Astine: That will never be decided
[20:25] <nuunuu> Astine: vim has imho nicer interface, but emacs formats code better
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: you need to establish if there is a pattern to what makes it hang
[20:25] <shane2peru> !language | CBell
[20:25] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: the make a real swap partition (encrypted if you must).. my gut feel is that it should be more robust...
[20:26] <pauljw> poor cbell... lol
[20:26] <erUSUL> !best | Astine
[20:26] <Pici> AryehGregor: you can tell us about it in #ubuntu-ops if you want.
[20:26] <AryehGregor> ActionParsnip, please realize that I've administered a 2 million hits/day Linux server as sole root for about three years.  I'm well-acquainted with general bug-hunting techniques.  This should have been apparent, I hope, from the specificity of my question.  If you don't have anything specific to suggest, then I don't think you can really help much.
[20:26] <J_P> kholzer: but if xorg.conf is empty, WM are there getting resolutinos etc from a place (file). what file ?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: the fact that ping replies is very perplexing tough, no ssh makes sense though as the sshd service may keel over when the system hangs
[20:26] <btnz> how do i install Quack for scheme programming in emacs under ubuntu?
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: thats cool. i assume nothing in here due to the range of skills
[20:26] <gustavonarea> erUSUL: yeah, makes sense. Thank you very much, once again! ;-)
[20:26] <btnz> havent found it in the repositories
[20:26] <Astine> ok...
[20:27] <erUSUL> gustavonarea: no problem
[20:27] <Yorub> When will the next LTS be released?
[20:27] <nuunuu> where do i find man pages for glibc and linux
[20:27] <IdleOne> Does Shiretoko depend on FF-3.0?
[20:27] <sebsebseb> Yorub: April 2010
[20:27] <Anzo> kholzer if your xorg is empty your typed the command wrong maybe
[20:27] <erUSUL> nuunuu: manpages-dev
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> AryehGregor: btw, i'm just a dude, not any sort of appointd helper or nothing
[20:27] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: no
[20:27] <nuunuu> erUSUL: thanks
[20:27] <Anzo> kholzer i know thats what it did for me
[20:27] <btnz> anyone here using quack?
[20:27] <Anzo> kholzer are you new to ubuntu?
[20:27] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Is its name still not known?
[20:28] <sebsebseb> Yorub: I think the name is out there, but  in that case, I don't remember what's it called,  I think I have read some article in the past that had the name
[20:28] <Yorub> Does anybody know the name of the next LTS?
[20:28] <IdleOne> thank you sebsebseb
[20:28] <erUSUL> btnz: dl the quack.el file and pu it somewer emacs look for it. instruction on how to do it come in the file itself
[20:28] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: as far as I know they are two seperate packages
[20:29] <shane2peru> Yorub: I don't think it has been named yet, it isn't due out till after Karmic.
[20:29] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Is there any information on how many of the Ubuntu users still use Hardy, the latest LTS?
[20:29] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: and 9.10 will have a later version of Firefox, with the proper user agent, and branding
[20:29] <btnz> erUSUL in the quack.el?
[20:29] <Anzo> nanotube are you still about?
[20:29] <erUSUL> btnz: yep
[20:29] <sebsebseb> Yorub: probably not
[20:29] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Why are you asking?
[20:30] <lianimator> I know flv files from youtube can be copied from /tmp. how about swf which has video? where are they?
[20:30] <erUSUL> btnz: i think ~/.emacs.d/ is a good place
[20:30] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yeah Linux market share can't be measured properly
[20:30] <sebsebseb> Yorub: really on the desktop  it probably has about 2%
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[20:30] <Darcc> Hi all, Is there and ISO download for Ububntu 9.04 for PowerPC users?
[20:30] <Pici> ActionParsnip: How is that helpful?
[20:30] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I'm interested to know more about the impact of this LTS strategy
[20:31] <grawity> Darcc: I don't think Ubuntu has PPC builds - only x86.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Pici: its al the proposed names for 10.04
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Yorub: So ask a proper question?
[20:31] <zielmicha>  /connect irc.freenode.net 6667
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Pici: user asked what 10.04 was gonna be called
[20:31] <Darcc> grawity I have found PPC downloads for 8.04
[20:31] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I see.
[20:31] <austin_work> grawity, it does, they're community maintained
[20:31] <dbuell> Darcc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Pici: helpful?
[20:32] <sebsebseb> !lts |  Yorub
[20:32] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Are you implying my question was not very proper? ("Is there any information on how many of the Ubuntu users still use Hardy, the latest LTS?")
[20:32] <dbuell> Darcc: or more properly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[20:32] <sebsebseb> Yorub: everything else that is specifically to do with LTS,  is  pretty much irelivant I guess
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: its still up in the air, karmic isnt even released yet :D
[20:32] <sebsebseb> Yorub: not that I know of
[20:33] <duffydack> 10.04: Lethargic Leprechaun
[20:33] <files> ciao
[20:33] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Why do you care how many people use the current LTS?
[20:33] <fccf> Yorub: www.markshuttleworth.com 's latest post talks about LTS in detail
[20:33] <Zajkos> elo
[20:33] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I'm not sure I'm following. What is irrelevant about LTS?
[20:33] <fccf> Yorub: FYI I use LTS
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> its a little oftopic too ;)
[20:33] <sebsebseb> Yorub: nevermind
[20:34] <mordof> lol, is 10 really named lethargic leprechaun?
[20:34] <darkham> how can i look changes in karmic daily live?
[20:34] <seidos> sebsebseb: I would think that the number of users that use LTS are probably going to give a better indicator of "mainstream" users
[20:34] <sebsebseb> Yorub: however woudn't it be better to look at how many people are using Ubuntu as a whole on the desktop :)
[20:34] <fccf> !karmic | darkham
[20:34] <austin_work> anyone familiar with udev? I'm working on automated backup script, that recognizes the external hd by serial number. It works fine, but when plugging in a similar drive (same model/etc.), with a *different* serial number, the backup script is still run
[20:34] <sebsebseb> seidos: I don't tink so,  considering that most Ubuntu users at the moment will be using 9.04 or 8.10 on the desktop
[20:34] <austin_work> part of the rule is ' ID_SERIAL_SHORT=="1234wxyz" '
[20:35] <seidos> sebsebseb: then by mainstream I mean "not hardcore"
[20:35] <G_A_C> austin_work: /dev/disk/by-id lists devices on my system including their serial number and firmware revisions
[20:35] <sebsebseb> seidos: yes I mean that as well
[20:35] <Astine> can anyone point me to a page that helps new linux users unstand what is going on in the log files?
[20:35] <seidos> sebsebseb: so do you agree that LTS users would be less hardcore?
[20:35] <Yorub> sebsebseb: The percentage of people that use a version shows me how much I can count on that version.
[20:36] <sebsebseb> Yorub: I see ok
[20:36] <sebsebseb> Yorub: well that's not quite true
[20:36] <mordof> seidos: LTS users (my guess) are ones that have been using ubuntu for a while, and have reason not to upgrade.., either that or ones that need to not upgrade in the future
[20:36] <sebsebseb> Yorub: and if I knew  a bit more, I could recommend a version to you right now
[20:36] <Yorub> fccf: Thank you for the URL. I use Hardy as my desktop OS, too.
[20:36] <austin_work> G_A_C, I've got the serial number, but apparently udev is ignoring it
[20:36] <sebsebseb> Yorub: LTS is what businesses are likely to be using though the ones that have gone Ubuntu, which sadly is not many
[20:36] <austin_work> because serial1 != serial2
[20:37] <Darcc> dbuell Thanks I will give it a try :)
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Yorub: ,because businesses don't want to  have a reason to upgrade  every six months,  new versions of Ubuntu in April and October
[20:37] <seidos> mordof: I think what we're getting at is that LTS would be more reliable, and to many users that is the most important consideration
[20:37] <fccf> Yorub: FYI ... Mark Shuttleworth is the founder of ubuntu
[20:37] <austin_work> but udev is running the same action
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Yorub: it is also recommended for proper servers,  as in for exammple commercial ones, to run that on the LTS
[20:37] <xste> !list
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Yorub: since  the server versions get support for longer
[20:37] <seidos> I don't know how to scroll in irssi
[20:37] <Yorub> fccf: Yeah, I know. The space guy. :)
[20:37] <mordof> pg up and down
[20:37] <sebsebseb> !lts |  Yorub
[20:37] <Pici> seidos: page up and page down.
[20:37] <mordof> seidos: ah
[20:37] <Darcc> Antone using ubuntu on PPC?
[20:37] <seidos> Pici: thank you
[20:38] <Darcc> anyone*
[20:38] <fccf> !ppc | Darcc ... a few
[20:38] <SnakDoc> is there a way to reinstall dpkg ?? seems to be broken :(
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Yorub: I suggest you asked proper questions, and then   you may get proper replies
[20:38] <fccf> Darcc: discussion and support in #ubuntu-powerpc
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Yorub: otherwise it's just guess work, when it comes to  whatever  info you  want to know
[20:38] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Having to install a new Ubuntu every six months is pretty disruptive for the average *USER* too!
[20:38] <mbeierl> anyone know in which file "show printers shared by other systems" toggle is stored?
[20:38] <Yorub> sebsebseb: That's why I care about LTSs.
[20:39] <diogo_79> hi guys
[20:39] <erUSUL> SnakDoc: post the error you get when you try to use it
[20:39] <sebsebseb> Yorub: nonsense,  normalley the upgrades  go fine
[20:39] <lampliter2> are there any GUI tools for managing NFS in 9.04?
[20:39] <diogo_79> i am starting ubuntu
[20:39] <Yorub> sebsebseb: And that's why my question is absolutely proper.
[20:39] <Darcc> fccf :)
[20:39] <diogo_79> on my desktop
[20:39] <G_A_C> Yorub: I've done many dist-upgrades in place with barely a problem
[20:39] <sebsebseb> diogo_79: New to Ubuntu?
[20:39] <diogo_79> how can i see if all the hardware is install?
[20:39] <diogo_79> yea
[20:39] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Ubuntu only do security updates from the repos, as a result LTS versions get old pretty fast
[20:39] <Yorub> G_A_C: Then I guess you just know how to fix the small but annoying bugs that come with each upgrade.
[20:40] <seidos> Yorub: I think it also depends on a user's hardware
[20:40] <dbuell> hey does anybody know how to use /stats p in pidgin?
[20:40] <fccf> diogo_: lspci for pci hardware .. lsusb for usb ... and dmesg to see more details of what is going on
[20:40] <IdleOne> Yorub: not to mention you don't have to upgrade.
[20:40] <G_A_C> Yorub: I don't think I've ever had any problems specifically with an upgrade. Whenever I've had problems with a new version, it's a problem that woul dhave occurred with a fresh install as well (such as the Intel graphics performance regressions in Jaunty)
[20:40] <sebsebseb> Yorub: also I was going to say something like what seidos  said, it depends on the user and what hardware,  which  version of Ubuntu they should or shoudn't be using
[20:40] <sebsebseb> Yorub: and of  course the version of Ubuntu still being supported
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> diogo_79: try and use the hardware, if it works, its installed
[20:41] <Yorub> IdleOne: Your reply seems to continue a previous one, which I can't figure out. Can you quote it?
[20:41] <halfmoon> OK heres the deal i now have to get this installed in ubuntu
[20:41] <fccf> !enter | halfmoon
[20:41] <halfmoon> Officemax wont return it cuzz theyre buttcusses
[20:41] <SnakDoc> erUSUL there are several just depends what i try to do with it rather its a apt-get upgrade or a dpkg -i install.deb
[20:41] <sebsebseb> G_A_C: yeah same here,  for example when I upgraded the other computer from your beloved 8.04  Yorub  to 8.10 and  then The Internet woudn't work anymore,  turns out  that happended with the Live CD as well
[20:41] <Yorub> G_A_C: It's exactly fresh installs that I'm complaining about (too).
[20:41] <halfmoon> OK OBOTTU
[20:42] <IdleOne> Yorub: I was continuing the thought of most everybody else which is along the lines of you don't have to upgrade if you don't want to. If your looking for long term support and stability then LTS is what you want
[20:42] <dbuell> diogo_79: generally you can check lshw. if there is any hardware that does not have a "module" or it is marked *-DISABLED then it is not "installed"
[20:42] <fccf> !attitude | halfmoon
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Yorub: 8.10 would have been a better  LTS release than 8.04, but nope 8.10 isn't LTS
[20:42] <DougM> how hard would it be to get Photoshop working on Ubuntu?
[20:42] <halfmoon> i know i got it
[20:42] <mordof> diogo_79: i guess the easiest explanation is that there isn't really an easy way like the device manager in xp. stuff gets displayed differently, even if something is using a driver in linux, it may not be a driver that runs it up to par.. so mainly just attempt using what you need to, and if it doesn't work - look for the problem and fix it
[20:42] <fccf> DougM: very hard ... use GIMP
[20:42] <Yorub> IdleOne: Right, and I wholeheartedly agree.
[20:42] <SnakDoc> erUSUL dpkg (subprocess) failed to exec dpkg-deb to extract control information : no such fle or dir
[20:42] <IdleOne> Yorub: so what we arguing about? :)
[20:42] <erUSUL> SnakDoc: :|
[20:43] <sebsebseb> DougM: you can  Wine it, but might have to configure hmm,  also with enough RAM you can run it in a Windows virtual machine
[20:43] <Yorub> IdleOne: (Well, except I'd like more backporting support)
[20:43] <SnakDoc> erUSUL thats what  said :(
[20:43] <Yorub> IdleOne: I was "arguing" with the other party, the frequent upgraders.
[20:43] <mordof> DougM: you'd most likely have better luck in a VM, heh..
[20:43] <dbuell> DougM: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=17
[20:43] <sebsebseb> G_A_C: that comment was for you, but I did mention Yorub 's name in it
[20:43] <DougM> fccf: yeah im a web developer and have always used Photoshop
[20:43] <DougM> thanks guys ill check those links out
[20:44] <yuri_dragon_17> can anyone read this?
[20:44] <tvjudge> Im having a brain fart whats the command to see the version of ubuntu im running?
[20:44] <sebsebseb> !version |  tvjudge
[20:44] <G_A_C> tvjudge: probably "lsb_release -a"
[20:44] <sebsebseb> yuri_dragon_17: yes
[20:44] <fccf> DougM: I also do some web work, and I haven't bought a copy of photoshop since 3.0
[20:44] <IdleOne> Yorub: well even those who run ubuntu+1 will tell you not to. latest is not always the greatest.
[20:44] <dbuell> DougM: you should check out gimp. There are also plugins that make gimp more like photoshop. check out google.
[20:44] <erUSUL> SnakDoc: well if you can not use dpkg you can not reinstall dpkg itself... catch 22 situation
[20:44] <sebsebseb> Yorub: if only 8.10 was the LTS :)
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Yorub: or maybe not
[20:45] <tvjudge> sorry i meant kernel version
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Yorub: in certain ways 8.10 is better than 8.04, just like in certain ways 8.10 is better than 9.04
[20:45] <IdleOne> uname -a
[20:45] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I agree, especially because of pulseaudio. What else are you referring to, BTW?
[20:45] <DougM> dbuell alright ill check it out.. i have it on my machine but it just didnt seem to good.  ill look into it some more
[20:45] <SnakDoc> erUSUL there some where to get source for it ??
[20:45] <tvjudge> thats it uname thansk
[20:45] <tvjudge> uname -a
[20:45] <IdleOne> np
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yeah  pulseaudio used to be horrible in 8.04,  I am not sure about now
[20:45] <lampliter2> I want to share a folder using NFS.  I can see how to do it using Samba but is there any tool I can use to export via NFS?  Using 9.04
[20:45] <DougM> dbuell: do you know if it works at all with PSD files?
[20:46] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Just as horrible (with some obvious but minimal fixes)
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Yorub: also 8.10 has a nice automatic shut down feature :)  after a minute,  unless it's cancaled or  whatever
[20:46] <mordof> DougM: seems CS works solid in wine
[20:46] <seidos> !version
[20:46] <fccf> DougM: yes GIMP works with PSD files
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Yorub: unfortuatnlly on the desktop 8.10 will  stop being supported next April I think it is
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Yorub: however 9.10 is out next month, and that's meant to be pretty good
[20:47] <seidos> 8.10 was good for me because it had the ath5k driver and I didn't need to use ndiswrapper anymore
[20:47] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Shouldn't 8.10 have been continued by 9.04? Is that a regression or what?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Yorub: and  I belive it will be,  espeasilly since they will have a proper  kernel for the 10 seconds or so  booting of Ext4 :)
[20:47] <netskillsii> Hello everyone - Need help Grub hangs after selecting to boot Windows 7 boot, error message NONE it only hangs at Starting up. Grub configuration is the same and tried to use bootrec.exe /fixmbr and bootrec.exe /fixboot from windows 7 installation disc.
[20:47] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Will ext4 be used by default?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Yorub: 9.04 is bad in certain ways,   I nearly left Ubuntu, because of it in fact
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yes 9.10 will use Ext4 by default
[20:47] <mordof> DougM; ohh.. can't use a cracked version of photoshop in wine, lol. counts me out xD
[20:47] <vallhalla81> !dvb
[20:47] <wiehan> I use UNR 9.04 on my gigabyte T1028 netbook, my touchscreen causes my whole system to freeze and become completly unresponsive after about 5minutes of use. PLEASE help
[20:47] <seidos> netskillsii: how long did you give grub?
[20:48] <Yorub> sebsebseb: And what about the 10 seconds you mentioned?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Yorub: of course people that upgrade to it from eerlier verisons with their Ext3, well   I am not sure how good that Ext3 to Ext4 conversion really is
[20:48] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Did you actually just say that it would reboot in 10 seconds?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Ubuntu with Ext4 boots and shut downs and disk checks really fast :)
[20:48] <DougM> mordof: im not using a cracked version.. its on my works tab
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yep it boots up in about 10 seconds with Ext4
[20:48] <IdleOne> Yorub: that is the goal yes
[20:48] <netskillsii> Its been like this for the past hour, it normally goes right away to Windows 7
[20:48] <mordof> oh that's handy
[20:48] <kholzer> J_P: We can trace it
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Yorub: with older versions,  bsically forget about Ext4, because they don't have in bult support for it
[20:48] <vallhalla81> !tv-out
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Yorub: and you can't just get support for it either
[20:49] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I guess ext3 to ext4 conversion should be smooth, absolutely unnoticeable.
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Yorub: without possbily something going wrong or whatever
[20:49] <kholzer> J_P: Sorry for long response.  But to find which files it touches, we can strace
[20:49] <fccf> !msgthebot | vallhalla81
[20:49] <kholzer> J_P: Did you figure it out?
[20:49] <seidos> sebsebseb: I great alternative to booting up fast is using suspend with abandon
[20:49] <Shara> .
[20:49] <sebsebseb> seidos: What's this?
[20:50] <seidos> sebsebseb: I rarely reboot, but I use suspend to ram
[20:50] <sebsebseb> Yorub: ir  your doing  commercial desktops,   well then yes  usaully better to stay with the LTS,  or some  commercial server, but otherwise,   LTS nah
[20:50] <Yorub> But how can a filesystem upgrade (which is what ext4 is) reduce rebooting time so tremendously?
[20:50] <seidos> Yorub: or if you have work that you need to get done
[20:50] <sebsebseb> Yorub: well you could, but,   8.04 hmm   I already said about 8.10,  I already said about   9.10,  and  I mentioned 9.04 briefly
[20:51] <seidos> Yorub: that's a good question
[20:51] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Ext4 has designed to be much better than  Ext3
[20:51] <Darcc> Which would be a good version of linux for PowerPC, I already use Ubuntu 9.04 on an Intell and would like something similar?
[20:51] <kholzer> Yorub: A filesystem probably won't, but it's implementation can.
[20:51] <mordof> how do i tell what filesystem i'm on? heh
[20:51] <sebsebseb> Yorub: also 9.04 with the optional  Ext4 file system, the same thing fast boot up and that,  however in 9.04 Ext4 is a little hmm, since they don't have proper support for it
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: if you upgrade ext3 to ext4 you dont get the full advantages of ext4
[20:51] <kholzer> Darcc: I'd used gentoo on PPC.
[20:51] <seidos> in windows I don't recall noticing performance boots moving from fat to ntfs
[20:51] <kholzer> Darcc: What do you want to do with it?
[20:52] <dbuell> Darcc: If that is the case why not use Ubuntu 9.04 on the ppc?
[20:52] <kholzer> Darcc: PPC => unmaintained (typically).
[20:52] <seidos> *boosts
[20:52] <netskillsii> Before this problem my battery die while still logged in to Linux then i connected my AC and restarted my computer then proceed on using Ubuntu 8.04 and had all kind of errors on my hdd. so tried repairing but know Ubuntu is fine but my Windows 7 nothing
[20:52] <Yorub> What can there be that is better than upstart already was supposed (or advertised) to be?
[20:52] <tvjudge> thanks for the help everyone bye
[20:52] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: Are you sure about that?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: well it sounds like maybe it will be  good enough when 9.10 is out, but I guess even so, better to clean install and put Ext4 partitions on
[20:52] <grawity> seidos: They might not differ much in performance, but NTFS has a lot other advantages: ACLs, journalling, alternate streams, symlinks/hardlinks, and Unicode support. (Compared to FAT, I mean.)
[20:52] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: Aren't there any good converters?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Yorub: see above at what I put to him
[20:53] <wiehan> Does anyone have a gigabyte T1028 netbook, I have so many problems with UNR..
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: yes, a proper format and then put the data back on will gain the extra functionality that convert filesystems do not get
[20:53] <Darcc> kholzer internet access, office aps, mmorpg
[20:53] <diogo_79> i whant to install an antivirus program in ubuntu what is the recomendation
[20:53] <erUSUL> !av | diogo_79
[20:53] <sebsebseb> diogo_79: you don't need one
[20:53] <sebsebseb> diogo_79: unless your doing say a email server, and scanning for Windows viruses
[20:54] <sebsebseb> diogo_79: otherwise at this time, you don't need one
[20:54] <erUSUL> diogo_79: clamav is the only one aviable in repos iirc.
[20:54] <kholzer> Darcc: Ubuntu has a PPC version, right?
[20:54] <davix> what can I do if my gnome screen is really distorted (the desktop shows, but its really filled with VERTICAL lines and runing dots, as if the graphic card failed). SiS chipset and onboard graphics card. please help:(
[20:54] <Darcc> I got a message on install of 9.04 saying it will damage my system???
[20:54] <fccf> Darcc: Discussion and support in #ubuntu-powerpc ... not offically supported anymore ... but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[20:54] <kholzer> Darcc: ?!
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Darcc: at what point?
[20:54] <kholzer> fccf: ah.  thanks.
[20:54] <sebsebseb> Yorub: I expect  9.10 will be way better than 8.04 :)
[20:54] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: Did you mean any difference between "proper format" and "format"?
[20:55] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Too bad that it won't be a LTS (just like 8.10) :)
[20:55] <tyler_d_> I am unable to see my IPOD (mounted and viewable) from within my user account - I am trying to sync using rhythmbox
[20:55] <tyler_d_> ?
[20:55] <tonii> davix: try live-cd (different versions, different drivers), if same problem: get new gfx
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Yorub: no, but 10.04 will be and yes that will also have Ext4 by default
[20:55] <Yorub> sebsebseb: s/a LTS/an LTS/
[20:55] <Darcc> fccf yes I looked at those, no one in ubuntu-powerpc channel
[20:55] <kholzer> davix: does it do it when you boot into a framebuffer (console) mode?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: a converted file system to ext4 is inferior to wiping all data off and formatting to ext4 properly
[20:55] <erUSUL> davix: reconfigure X 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[20:56] <adaptr> tyler_d_: look in /var/log/* for evidence it's being seen and mounted, and how
[20:56] <Darcc> Upon opening the disc image?
[20:56] <kholzer> davix: when it POSTS, is it okay?
[20:56] <sebsebseb> Yorub: what was that?
[20:56] <Luvn> How do I find my gateway address?
[20:56] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: I got that
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Luvn: route | grep default
[20:56] <_Trinity_> hy gnash goes me to errors. One that a sorenson plugin is missing and another than x264 is missing and I have ffmpeg installed. What am I missing? Or do I have to install the entire ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[20:56] <fccf> Darcc: there are 12 others in ppc ... that is not noone ... use the link I gave you ... people are supporting it ... we arn't
[20:56] <Yorub> sebsebseb: A regex. I was correcting my previous reply to you.
[20:56] <sebsebseb> Yorub: LTS hmm
[20:56] <erUSUL> !keys
[20:56] <davix> kholzer, I don't know what POSTS is, but console works perfectly well. its just the X acting up, I've read numerous threads, most of them talking about using VESA driver instead. I want to use this pc as a studio station and VESA is out of the question
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Yorub: is not the  be all and end all,  (I think this is the saying I want)
[20:57] <kholzer> davix: Try VESA to test things though.  Does it work with VESA?  (My suspicion is yes.)
[20:57] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Nothing is
[20:57] <davix> kholzer, it does :/
[20:58] <kholzer> davix: Then you've got something effed up in your xorg.conf.
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Darcc: its just warning you that the livecd can access partitions if you use it so and may damage data (afaics). Also if you misuse the installer you may lose info also, its just a warning
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Yorub: sometimes  non LTS versions are way better than whatever the current latest LTS  is at the time
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Yorub: was that 8.10 no
[20:58] <kholzer> davix: Try manually setting the monitor settings.
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Yorub: was that  9.04 no way
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Yorub: will  it be 9.10,  yes I think probably so
[20:58] <kholzer> davix: It kind of sounds like monitor settings.
[20:59] <davix> (EE) SIS(0): Illegal video RAM size (262144K) detected, using BIOS-provided info
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Yorub: you should also be able to upgrade   9.10 no problem to 10.04 when that's released
[20:59] <davix> kholzer this is the only EE in my var/log/x (EE) SIS(0): Illegal video RAM size (262144K) detected, using BIOS-provided info
[20:59] <Darcc> ActionParsnip Thank you, do I open the ISO file I downloaded of burn it straight to disc?
[20:59] <DougM> im going to reinstall a fresh install of Gimp... i went into add/remove and thought i removed it but when i go to my home folder and hit ctrl-h it still shows up with all the folders inside.
[21:00] <DougM> what is the bst way to fully remove the application
[21:00] <kholzer> davix: then try poking in the BIOS....
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Darcc: yu right click the ISO and select "open with" then point to your burning software, this works in windows too
[21:00] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Well, I guess *anything* three versions more recent than an LTS is supposed to be way better than the LTS.
[21:00] <Darcc> :)
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Darcc: you do not extract the iso or anything like that
[21:00] <erUSUL> DougM: uninstalling a package does not remove the users configuration files
[21:00] <davix> kholzer, I did, my windows boot works ok. I think its the driver
[21:00] <DougM> erUSUL: so if i just delete that folder will it be fine when I reinstall?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Well in that case, why do you want to run the LTS so badly?   That's October 29th when 9.10 comes out by the way
[21:01] <fccf> Doug: sudo apt-get remove --purge gimp  will clear your config files
[21:01] <davix> kholzer, what should I try and change in the monitor setting?
[21:01] <kholzer> davix: It probably is.  Still, try poking with the bios settings.
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> DougM: to remove all configs for gimp run: rm -rf ~/.gimp
[21:01] <tyler_d> adaptr: What specifically am I looking for?
[21:01] <davix> kholzer, I've tried taking down the dedicated ram for GFX but it doesnt change anything, just makes it slower loading
[21:01] <DougM> ActionParsnip: cool thanks a lot
[21:01] <erUSUL> DougM: if remove your config is what you want to do rmove the .gimp dir
[21:02] <adaptr> tyler_d: probably your best bet is udev telling you what it found and what it did with it
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> DougM: most apps have a folder like that to store settings for each app for each user
[21:02] <DougM> which one "rmove the .gimp dir" or "rm -rf ~/.gimp"
[21:02] <kholzer> davix: Look up your  monitor's 'Vertical Refresh Rate' and it's 'Horizontal Sync Frequency'
[21:02] <henjj> I'm using Ubuntu 9.04.  I can connect to my company's VPN using network manager and pptp but I can't browse the shares.  Any idea what the problem might be?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> DougM: firefox = ~/.mozilla   pidgin = ~/.purple  etc
[21:02] <kholzer> davix: post your xorg.conf to some pastebin site and I can help you graft that stuff in if you want.
[21:02] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Mostly because I don't like to be forced to feel like a second-class Ubuntu citizen only six months later, when everybody is focused on the next version and the LTS.
[21:02] <erUSUL> DougM: mine was not a command just plain english :)
[21:02] <davix> ok kholzer, going at it right now
[21:02] <kholzer> davix: you've just gotta get the documentation for your monitor, it will be in a 'specs' page on their site.
[21:02] <DougM> erUSUL: oh haha ok thanks.. im new to this if you cant tell
[21:03] <`c00> question.. can you actually have different version of python on 1 server machine?
[21:03] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Explain what you meant by that?   Also as I already said  you can probably upgrade to the 10.04  LTS  from 9.10, without any problems.
[21:03] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Sometimes installing a new Ubuntu is quite disrupting. I mean, I like to play with my computer, but I also have work to do.
[21:03] <tyler_d> adaptr: I cannot see much re: the i-pod, however I know where its mounted and can use gparted to see that a. its mounted and b. the device type
[21:03] <nuunuu> `c00: yes
[21:03] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I guess this is the main reason why anybody would stick to an LTS
[21:03] <sebsebseb> Yorub: I see,  well  hard disks can also just fail,  hence why you have back ups,  just like sometimes an upgrade of Ubuntu might go wrong
[21:04] <nuunuu> altho i don't know if you get that from package management
[21:04] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Yeah, I have to agree
[21:04] <minche> hello
[21:04] <sebsebseb> Yorub: normalley yes, but  there may be some exceptions to that
[21:04] <minche> i need some help
[21:04] <adaptr> tyler_d: did you do Scan removable media in rhythmbox ?
[21:04] <`c00> nuunuu, if so how do I set my application to choose which version to use?
[21:04] <sebsebseb> Yorub: 9.10  will probably be a good exception
[21:04] <erUSUL> `c00: yes; jaunty has 2.4 2.5 and 2.6  in repos
[21:04] <eeepc> is hdmi output possible? what's a good card to get?
[21:04] <Petengy> hi to all
[21:04] <nuunuu> `c00: you'd need different names for the executables.
[21:04] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I think I will install 9.10, especially if I keep hearing good things about it
[21:04] <DougM> what is the command line to install gimp?
[21:04] <nuunuu> and use alternatives system or what was it
[21:04] <dbuell> `c00: yes and you can get several different versions (at the same time) from the synaptic package manager
[21:05] <sebsebseb> Yorub: also  woudn't it be cool if you could boot up in like 10 seconds,  instead of 30 or  whatever it is?
[21:05] <eeepc> there is a computer on woot.com today that has it, is this compatible with ubuntu?
[21:05] <Yorub> sebsebseb: And then I'll upgrade to the next LTS
[21:05] <tyler_d> adaptr: I have tried, the plugin is not configurable though, and it usually just shows up on the right
[21:05] <tonii> DougM: apt-get install gimp
[21:05] <shane2peru> DougM: sudo apt-get install gimp
[21:05] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Of course it would! :)
[21:05] <Dyinglight12> hi
[21:05] <DougM> alright cool thanks guys
[21:05] <`c00> thanks for all those who answered.. appreciate your help guys
[21:05] <adaptr> tyler_d: that's odd, I have never had issues with it
[21:05] <Petengy> I'm near to install ubuntu on a pavillion hp laptop, my problem is the internal analogic modem..... any idea ?
[21:05] <shane2peru> DougM you will need sudo with that
[21:05] <minche> i had no sound in ubuntu 9.04, and then i followed some instructions (shich i can link you to if you want) and now there still is no sound, but when i go to the system -> preferences there are 2 sound menus =S
[21:05] <Dyinglight12> can someone help me
[21:05] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yeah that sounds good,  and make sure that's a nice clean install  of 9.10 when it's out,   and haveing a seperate /home is useful,  you can set that up yourself
[21:05] <erUSUL> !dialup | Petengy
[21:05] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I can't wait to see that happen (I still can't believe it, actually)
[21:05] <`c00> I might need to take a look that :)
[21:05] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Dyinglight12
[21:05] <minche> if anyone could help me, please
[21:06] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Thank you for your suggestions
[21:06] <sebsebseb> Yorub: that also makes re installing  or even changing distros much easier
[21:06] <Dyinglight12> i need help installing this via sd card since im on a netbook
[21:06] <sebsebseb> Yorub: when you got seperate /hoem
[21:06] <davix> kholzer, this is my xorg.conf (http://pastebin.ca/1562459) and this is my screen make/model (Nec AccuSync 73V LCD - can't find it on their website - only the newer version) is it the same?
[21:06] <Petengy> erUSUL: I'll try TnX :)
[21:06] <sebsebseb> !md5sum  |  Yorub
[21:07] <sebsebseb> Yorub: and that's a good idea to do for any Ubuntu ISO
[21:07] <shane2peru> Yorub: I always keep /home as a separate partition, it is very good idea
[21:07] <minche> please?
[21:07] <sebsebseb> !patience |  minche
[21:07] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: out of curiosity, have you ever had a bad download?
[21:07] <davix> kholzer this is the new Accusync specs, I wonder if it workss: Horizontal 31.5 kHz to 81.1 kHz (Analog/Digital) / Vertical 56 to 76 Hz
[21:07] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: maybe once or twice  with some ISO,  ,but in that case quite a while ago
[21:08] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: 99% of the time the download will be good
[21:08] <hwilde> hi I have a webcam connected to my computer via ethernet.  the IP of the webcam is unknown.  can I discover it with the right combination of tcpdump and broadcast pings ?
[21:08] <kholzer> davix: Cool :)
[21:08] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: or whatever the percentage is
[21:08] <davix> kholzer, how do I set up my xorg now? where do I put these config specs?
[21:08] <minche> it's really bugging me
[21:08] <minche> and i fixed it last time there was no sound
[21:08] <minche> but now i cant remember what i did
[21:08] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Thank you for your help! :)
[21:08] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I mean to really warrant md5sum?
[21:08] <kholzer> davix: I'll do it in another pastebin for you
[21:08] <davix> kholzer, oh thank you
[21:08] <grawity> hwilde: If it does respond to broadcast pings, then tcpdump is unneeded. ping 255.255.255.255 would show all ping replies anyway.
[21:08] <kholzer> davix: got to do some reading of man xorg.conf
[21:08] <sebsebseb> Yorub: no problem
[21:09] <grawity> hwilde: If it doesn't -- there are tools such as nmap, that can do subnet scans.
[21:09] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: I think it's more important to do it if you get the ISO from a dodgy source, but  even if you don't,  still a good idea I guess
[21:09] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: right, I perhaps have had one or two, I don't even check md5sum any more. :)
[21:09] <erUSUL> davix: a quick way of getting a xorg.conf to modify is using 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[21:09] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: it is good practice, I just don't do it. :)
[21:09] <hwilde> grawity, what if my ethernet IP is not on the right subnet
[21:09] <MeXTuX> I installed a RAID 1 on a Ubuntu Server. How can I check if the files are being duplicated as expected??
[21:10] <kholzer> erUSUL: trying to debug something, davix, wait....
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Yorub: 8.04 will probably be  a kind of joke compared to 9.10 :D
[21:10] <davix> kholzer, i'm with you
[21:10] <kholzer> davix: k
[21:10] <grawity> hwilde: Doesn't the webcam have any docs?
[21:10] <minche> please, can anyone at least show me where i could find some help
[21:10] <erUSUL> MeXTuX: remove one of the disks of the array. try to access the array (read only) in degraded mode
[21:10] <fccf> hwilde: consider using wireshark to see all packets on your ethernet
[21:10] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I hope so
[21:11] <shane2peru> Yorub: there are many improvments over 8.04, I have two boxes running 8.04, mine is running 9.04
[21:11] <Yorub> sebsebseb: It has to, at least because it's the latest
[21:11] <sebsebseb> Yorub: same here, but also hopefuly compared to 9.04 :)
[21:11] <hwilde> grawity, it has docs, but it has already been configured, and there is no factory reset (it's a security camera and they claim that would make it insecure)
[21:11] <henjj>  I'm using Ubuntu 9.04.  I can connect to my company's VPN using network manager and pptp but I can't browse the shares.  Any idea what the problem might be?
[21:11] <fccf> !ask | minche
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> hwilde: if the cam is on a different subnet you will need some switching / router to get the traffic onto the other network, or you can edit your current subnet to conform to the camera
[21:11] <sebsebseb> Yorub: newer is not always better,   for example 9.04 and 8.10 or even 8.04,  depending on user and hardware
[21:12] <grawity> hwilde: Maybe you know an IP address of some other machine in the old network?
[21:12] <Yorub> sebsebseb: I know, but 8.04 is getting quite old, so I guess soon everything will be better than that :)
[21:12] <hwilde> grawity, we bought it from Seagate when they went out of business :)
[21:12] <hossam> hello! is there a screensaver mode that will dim the screen (set opacity) to a certain level?
[21:12] <Yorub> sebsebseb: s/everything/anything/
[21:12] <dbuell> minche: try the forums...
[21:12] <sebsebseb> Yorub: exactly it's getting quite old,  and  Ext4  is so worth having 9.10 for
[21:12] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yes the boot up time again I am on about here
[21:13] <dbuell> minche: there is a lot of information regarding sound setup
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: ext4 is only default, ext3 is still an option
[21:13] <kholzer> davix: try removing the usefbdev option in the "Device" section; do you have that there for a reason?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> Yorub: even in 9.04 it's worth it, depending on user and data,  because it's still a bit dodgy in 9.04 as I already put
[21:13] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: I know
[21:13] <Yorub> sebsebseb: What's worth it in 9.04?
[21:13] <kholzer> davix: You might also be able to use DPMS (automatic capability reporting protocol); lemme see if your monitor has it.
[21:14] <dbuell> minche: sorry I can't help without more information.
[21:14] <davix> kholzer, part of me trying to follow threads about fixing it
[21:14] <Yorub> sebsebseb: The ext4 file system?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Yorub:  hardly anything is worth  it in 9.04 really
[21:14] <davix> kholzer, removed
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: newer hardware may benefit from the newer kernel
[21:14] <kholzer> davix: Without it, it is still broken?
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Yorub: worth having 9.04 for,  except Ext4 maybe, depending on user and data as I already said,  because as I already said a bit dodgy in 9.04, since the kernel they have and that
[21:14] <davix> kholzer, yup
[21:14] <davix> kholzer, was broken with and without it
[21:15] <sebsebseb> Yorub: when I said worth having I meant upgrading from 8.04 or 8.10
[21:15] <davix> kholzer, i just left it there because it did no harm :)
[21:15] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: What kernel will Karmic use?
[21:15] <PenStand> when will ubuntu 9.10 be released?
[21:15] <sebsebseb> Yorub: something rather receant
[21:15] <fccf> !karmic
[21:15] <sebsebseb> Yorub: the  2.6.31 kernel series or whatever
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: 2.6.31
[21:15] <ManDay> I dont have an LC_ALL - what can I do about it?
[21:15] <ManDay> nor do I have a LOCALE
[21:15] <kholzer> davix: ok, add the following to the "Monitor" section: `Option "DPMS" "on"` (inside the backticks)
[21:16] <IdleOne> !locale
[21:16] <Yorub> sebsebseb, ActionParsnip: I suspect part of the reason why it will boot in ten seconds is the implementation of kernel-based mode setting (IIUC).
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Yorub: I don't think so
[21:16] <PenStand> is there an LTS for ubuntu 9.04?
[21:16] <hossam> kholzer: check your pm
[21:16] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Why?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Yorub: ,because  9.04 with Ext4  boots up  like  Karmic  alpha  with Ext4
[21:16] <davix> ok done, kholzer no ctrl+alt+backspace?
[21:16] <rww> PenStand: no. The current LTS is 8.04, the next one will be 10.04 or 10.10.
[21:16] <fccf> !lts | PenStand
[21:16] <GLG> unknown variables wireless_link and linkstatus in conky anyone have the alternitives?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: maybe, maybe you have implemented extra boot options and system settings to speed up bootup
[21:16] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Almost just as fast?
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yep  I noticed no difference regarding the speed
[21:17] <PenStand> !Hardy
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: dont forget, bootup isnt a gauge of speed. id rather have a slower boot for faster actual desktop performance
[21:17] <hanasaki> what can open and edit a photoshop file psd
[21:17] <hanasaki> ?
[21:17] <Yorub> sebsebseb: And is it booting in around ten seconds??
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Yorub: yep
[21:17] <fccf> hanasaki: gimp
[21:17] <kholzer> davix: I'd reboot from scratch....
[21:17] <davix> kholzer, it didn't fix it :/
[21:17] <DougM> hanasaki: gimp
[21:17] <davix> kholzer ok rebooting
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: gimp perhaps
[21:17] <kholzer> davix: I'm paranoid about that kind of thing
[21:17] <sebsebseb> Yorub: I used to not like it doing the disk check much, after 23 or so boots, because that would take a while, but  with Ext4 that's done in seconds
[21:17] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: Not that there is some trade-off between the two.
[21:18] <GLG> unknown variables wireless_link and linkstatus in conky anyone have the alternitives?
[21:18] <davix> kholzer, whatever works, (now its loading again
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: true, but dont get tied up with boot time, its very trivial
[21:18] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Again, that's amazing.
[21:18] <hanasaki> does gimp open it as a bitmap or can I move / edit shapes of the psd ?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: meaning?
[21:18] <fccf> !ot | ActionParsnip sebsebseb Yorub
[21:18] <Travis-43> Is there an easy way to make ssh connect using a proxy? (I can't access the end ssh server without proxying through another one first)
[21:19] <davix> kholzer, no good :(
[21:19] <kholzer> could you ssh into the 'proxy' and then ssh from there?
[21:19] <kholzer> davix: lemme see, well try something else. Leave that option in though.
[21:19] <hanasaki> is there a single tools in Ubuntu that can open edit save maybe convert from illustrator to photoshop?  gimp? inkscape?  what would be a great tool to do logo graphics with?
[21:19] <davix> kholzer, what ever you tell me, I'll do.
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> hanasaki: psd is proprietary so I dont believe so
[21:19] <tyler_d> In nautilus when I go to computer, and double click my IPOD, USB Drive I get "unable to mount location"
[21:20] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: I know, but Hardy boots up *real* slow.
[21:20] <Travis-43> kholzer: the problem with that, is that I need to use a private key to connect, and that private key is on this computer, not the proxy computer
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: its offtopic here
[21:20] <kholzer> Travis-43: sorry, I dunno
[21:20] <kholzer> :(
[21:20] <sebsebseb> Yorub: this is all a bit off topic now for in here really, also  there's even a video on youtube  Windows 7 RC   vs  Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2  boot up, i'll give the link in pm
[21:20] <Yorub> ActionParsnip: As long as Hardy is still supported, it should be on-topic.
[21:20] <fccf> hanasaki: inkscape is a vector graphics editor .. much like illustrator ... and gimp is linux's equivelent to photoshop
[21:21] <Travis-43> kholzer: np, thanks
[21:21] <Yorub> sebsebseb: Got it, thanks.
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Yorub: its not a support question, its random chatter #ubuntu is for support only, #ubuntu-offtopic is for ubuntu-related chatter
[21:21] <DougM> how do I find out if i have the jaunty or hardy package?
[21:22] <Steil> im horny
[21:22] <fccf> !version | DougM
[21:22] <ManDay> IdleOne, it didnt help
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> DougM: lsb_release -c
[21:22] <tyler_d> gnome-mount -vbd /dev/sda1 gives me "** (gnome-mount:8879): DEBUG: Mounting /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_72D5_2E66 with mount_point='MYPOD', fstype='', num_options=6"
[21:22] <ManDay> I STILL dont have an LC_ALL
[21:22] <hanasaki> fccf:  kinda new to the graphics stuff... what woudyou do a logo in if it was you?  what would you inkscape for vs gimp? blender?
[21:23] <sebsebseb> Yorub: Ext3 is a joke compared  to  Ext4  when it comes to boot up, it really is, and since Ext4  is  default in 9.10 when that's released, that's one major advantage it will have over previous versions.
[21:23] <DougM> cool thanks guys
[21:23] <dbuell> !best | hanasaki
[21:23] <fccf> hanasaki: I'd use inkscape to create svg's ... and create jpegs from there
[21:23] <kholzer> davix: which model is it again?
[21:23] <kholzer> davix: (the video card that is)
[21:24] <dbuell> hanasaki: though personally I use inkscape for logos...
[21:24] <Lunatic> How do I know which kernel modules I need and which are needless
[21:24] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me how to fix my LC_ALL? I have none, which is a problem. I keep getting errors all over the place. sometimes something like "/usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory"!!!
[21:25] <davix> kholzer, I know its an SiS, how can I tell the exact model? what command should I use?
[21:25] <kholzer> davix: does it show up when you lspci?
[21:25] <kholzer> davix: it is probably agp; lemme look for a second
[21:25] <diogo_792> guys is there a good tutorial for installing clamav in ubuntu 9.04
[21:25] <diogo_792> ?
[21:25] <davix> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 04)
[21:25] <davix> Khisanth
[21:25] <sebsebseb> diogo_792: did you miss my messages?
[21:25] <davix> kholzer even
[21:26] <diogo_792> yeap
[21:26] <diogo_792> sorry
[21:26] <davix> khozler: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 04)
[21:26] <sebsebseb> diogo_792: you don't need AV at this time in Linux, unless for example your running a  email server which is scanning for Windows viruses
[21:26] <sebsebseb> !av | diogo_792
[21:26] <fccf> ManDay: have you run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[21:26] <ManDay> yes fccf
[21:26] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I hash a file on ubuntu? (md5)
[21:26] <kholzer> davix: is it a homebuilt computer?
[21:26] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | Mike_lifeguard
[21:26] <diogo_792> ok thanks
[21:27] <ManDay> fccf, thats what brings up that error
[21:27] <kholzer> davix: if so, could you give me the motherboard info?  if not, could you give me the make/model?
[21:27] <Gnea> diogo_792: simple matter of installing it with fresh-clamav to do automatic daily updates to the virus db
[21:27] <ManDay> i ve uninstalled some language related stuff recently - what may have cause this?
[21:27] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: Thanks - do you also know how I can set a command alias?
[21:27] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: what's that?
[21:27] <fccf> ManDay: pehaps you need to 'sudo apt-get install language-pack-en'
[21:27] <jiffe> alright, I have 2 interfaces, eth0 and eth1, I tried to do an ifdown eth1 which seemed to complete successfully, it updated /var/run/network/ifstate, but ifconfig -a still shows eth1 as up it would appear
[21:28] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: you say "ls" and the computer does "ls -l"
[21:28] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: of you say "md5" and the computer does "md5sum"
[21:28] <kholzer> Mike_lifeguard: alias blah="blah blah"
[21:28] <ManDay> fccf, yes, thats what i uninstalled
[21:28] <whileimhere> Hello I have an ASUS eeePC 1005(HA) I am having issues getting the wired and wireless network to work. I have followed the instructions on http://www.jfwhome.com/2009/08/06/perfect-ubuntu-jaunty-on-the-asus-eeepc-1005ha-and-1008ha/ and when I attempt to compile the driver I get an Error 2 on the make command. Does anyone know anything about this?
[21:28] <Mike_lifeguard> kholzer: Will that persist over sessions?
[21:28] <kholzer> Mike_lifeguard: no
[21:28] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: oh  shortcuts  for the terminal?  and no I don't  know about that
[21:28] <fccf> ManDay: prolly should put that back in
[21:28] <Mike_lifeguard> kholzer: is that possible?
[21:28] <kholzer> Mike_lifeguard: set it in ~/.bashrc
[21:28] <kholzer> Mike_lifeguard: yeah.
[21:28] <Travis-43> q
[21:28] <Travis-43> :q
[21:28] <Travis-43> exit
[21:28] <Mike_lifeguard> same format there?
[21:29] <kholzer> Mike_lifeguard: Yup
[21:29] <Mike_lifeguard> Travis-43: /quit
[21:29] <kholzer> (I think....)
[21:29] <hanasaki> dbuell:  inkscape or gimp can you make a 3D shape and then rotate and stretch it?
[21:29]  * Mike_lifeguard will experiment
[21:29] <Mike_lifeguard> thx
[21:29] <Gnea> !eeepc | whileimhere (also check out the #ubuntu-eeepc channel)
[21:29] <whileimhere> Thanks
[21:30] <ManDay> whileimhere, you will get problems with your graphics driver :P
[21:30] <ManDay> im currently facing them
[21:30] <hacktop> hey people
[21:30] <dbuell> hanasaki: you can do that in inkscape, but if you are wanting to do 3d I would suggest blender
[21:30] <henjj>  I'm using Ubuntu 9.04.  I can connect to my company's VPN using network manager and pptp but I can't browse the shares.  Any idea what the problem might be?
[21:30] <fccf> hanasaki: only in 2D ... 3D is a whole different animal ... blender, and pov-ray are options
[21:30] <Lunatic> How do I know which kernel modules I need and which are needless?
[21:31] <davix> kholzer its not home made, I got it from a store a couple of years ago, my dad used it up untill now but now I am using it. how can I get the model?
[21:31] <hanasaki> fccf: don't see pov-ray in the repository... .
[21:31] <jiffe> any idea why ifdown on eth1 wouldn't actually take eth1 down?
[21:31] <kholzer> davix:  hmm.  What does it say on the front?
[21:32] <fccf> hanasaki: it is povray
[21:32] <hanasaki> thanks
[21:32] <miguelonnnn> hi , when i type sudo iwconfig eth1 key s:mykey i get "invalid argument error for wireless request "set encode" (8B2A). Do you know what could it be?
[21:32] <kholzer> Davix, is it HP, compaq, or what?
[21:32] <fccf> !info povray
[21:32] <davix> kholzer, nope brandless
[21:32] <diogo_792> it is possibl to view videos in mms format
[21:32] <diogo_792> i have videos that runs only with the media player
[21:32] <kholzer> davix: hmm are you at all willing to think about getting a different card?  They can be pretty cheap; cheaper than fixing this stuff sometimes... :/
[21:33] <kholzer> davix: I fought with a sound card for two weeks, then went out and bought one I knew would work, and it was instantaneous and perfect.... :/
[21:34] <kholzer> davix: I'm just almost out of ideas...
[21:34] <davix> kholzer if I won't be able to use it like this, i'll probably just use windows, reason I got it was mainly because I'm low on funds lately. my friend did give me some ATI PCIE card but that one failed to load via bios
[21:34] <davix> kholzer you did exhusted yourself. it is futile i believe now
[21:34] <kholzer> davix: hmm...
[21:34] <g2no11ah2> I need help installing the desktop version, can anyone help?
[21:34] <fccf> diogo_792: I believe there is a ppa @ http://www.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppa - search for mms there
[21:34] <sebsebseb> g2no11ah2: probably
[21:34] <davix> g2no11ah2, burn/boot/install voila
[21:34] <fccf> !ask | g2no11ah2
[21:35] <sebsebseb> g2no11ah2: What is the problem exactly?
[21:35] <g2no11ah2> I get to the initramfs prompt and don't know what to do.  Need gnome...
[21:35] <mauro_> hello, does someone know how to batch resize and rename with imagemagick?
[21:35] <fccf> davix: In a perfect world
[21:35] <kholzer> davix: look on craigslist for a video card or something; one can even get them new for around $20...
[21:35] <mengu> hi. when i start terminal, i don't want it to start with in file system, but in my /home/mengu. is there any way i can change this?
[21:36] <g2no11ah2> I get to the initramfs prompt and don't know what to do.  Need gnome...
[21:36] <davix> kholzer, I will try to get a hang of some other gfx card, untill then I'll use vesa. hopefully i'll find something
[21:36] <kholzer> davix: or see if someone more über than me cna help :/
[21:36] <davix> kholzer thanks for your dedicated help
[21:36] <pleo> i need some help i know it is not the right place to ask but nobody is giving me answer in the corrent channel, because im new in ubuntu i decide to ask here. HOW CAN I CHANGE DEFAUL FOLDER OF svftpd to the folder of apach server /var/www/
[21:36] <kholzer> *can
[21:36] <pleo> ?
[21:36] <FloodBot1> pleo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:36] <kholzer> no problem
[21:37] <pleo> can anyone help me
[21:37] <ManDay> My LC_ALL is STILL empty!!!
[21:37] <kholzer> pleo: edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[21:37] <mauro_> this is what i'm doing ------> convert -resize 160x120 *.jpg *-small.jpg <------ but it renames them with the * instead of the original name plus "-small", what am I doing wrong?
[21:37] <g2no11ah2> I get to the initramfs prompt and don't know what to do.  Need gnome...
[21:38] <kholzer> mauro_: the * gets expanded by the shell rather than convert.
[21:38] <kholzer> mauro_: you could write a little python script to do it
[21:38] <miguelonnnn> hi , when i type sudo iwconfig eth1 key s:mykey i get "invalid argument error for wireless request "set encode" (8B2A). Do you know what could it be?
[21:39] <Myrtti> mauro_: for file in *.jpg;do conver -resize 160x120 $file $file-small.jpg;done
[21:39] <henjj>  I'm using Ubuntu 9.04.  I can connect to my company's VPN using network manager and pptp but I can't browse the shares.  Does any one have any idea what I should do to try and figure out what the problem is?
[21:39] <fccf> mauro_: perhaps use a different output directory .. and rename them after using rn
[21:39] <kholzer> Myrtti: damned bash... ;)
[21:39] <ManDay> My LC_ALL is STILL empty!!! Can anyone tell me how to fix it? I uninstalled ome language-related packages recently - but I dont know what broke it. I already tried localepurge and reinstaleld language-pack-en(-base)
[21:39] <kholzer> mauro_: listen to Myrtti
[21:39] <mengu> when i start the terminal, i don't want it to start with in file system, but in my /home/mengu. is there any way i can change this?
[21:39] <miguelonnnn> henjj what's your company server? samba?
[21:40] <henjj> windows 2003
[21:40] <kholzer> mauro_: (but don't do that yourself, do python instead of bash ;)
[21:40] <g2no11ah2> I get to the initramfs prompt and don't know what to do.  Need gnome...
[21:40] <fccf> ManDay: did you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales after you reinstalled the english locale
[21:41] <miguelonnnn> run smbclient //server.domain/yourdevice -U YourUser -W YourWorkGroup
[21:41] <mauro_> thx Myrtti sounds great but it's giving me this error : "convert: missing an image filename `-small.jpg' @ wand/convert.c/ConvertImageCommand/2710."
[21:41] <miguelonnnn> you'll be prompted for a pass, type your pass and you're in
[21:42] <henjj> miguelonnnn: thanks, I'll give it a try
[21:42] <Myrtti> mauro_: "${file}"-output.jpg then, or somehting
[21:43] <fccf> mengu ... is there a ~ in your terminal .... that is home
[21:44] <nemesis1911> hi
[21:44] <fccf> !hi |nemesis1911
[21:44] <nemesis1911> I'm trying to get my PVR-150 going on Ubuntu 9.04.. and it won't work..
[21:45] <mengu> fccf: nope. but i have just noticed something. when i open the terminal via the menu, it starts in my home directory. but when i open with a keyboard shortcut, it starts with /
[21:45] <Mike_lifeguard> Could someone help me with an issue with burning ISOs to CD? I consistently get errors resulting in either a coaster, or the simulated burning failing ( brasero log at http://p.defau.lt/?9ZeoqDy6lNm98CHbYYXZWQ )
[21:45] <Turbolinux> Is anyone use PulseAudio here? Are you like it?
[21:46] <nemesis1911> its a hauppauge PVR-150 card .. the OS sees it.. its just that the software that I get don't work with it for some reason
[21:46] <henjj> miguelonnnn:  what would yourdevice be?
[21:46] <nemesis1911> anyone?
[21:46] <ferdek>  85.14.80.241
[21:46] <nemesis1911> Zapping Tv Viewer .. crashes.. .. it don't even open
[21:47] <Gnea> nemesis1911: try tvtime
[21:47] <fccf> mengu: what commnad is your KB shortcut running?
[21:47] <Gnea> nemesis1911: zapping is a bit ancient and lacking
[21:47] <tyler_d> My IPOD will not mount so that my local user can view it
[21:47] <mengu> gnome-terminal
[21:47] <mengu> i've also tried gnome-terminal /home/mengu
[21:47] <mengu> but didn't work
[21:47] <nemesis1911> Gnea: what do I use then for hauppauge pvr-150 to work on Ubuntu 9.04
[21:48] <Gnea> !ipod | tyler_d
[21:48] <Gnea> nemesis1911: did you try tvtime?
[21:48] <Gnea> !info tvtime
[21:48] <racha> dbuell : Are u here ?:D
[21:48] <mauro_> kholzer but how do u that in phyton?
[21:48] <mattfred> I'm trying to install a windows xp on a machine that currently has ubuntu 9.04 installed and the installer says that I have no hard drive
[21:48] <sebsebseb> mattfred:  Putting XP on why?
[21:48] <ManDay> yes fccf i did
[21:49] <Oyranos50> ?
[21:49] <Aethelred> I'm looking at Netbooks. Halitech suggested System76. Anyone else have experience or recommendations on a GNU/Linux netbook?
[21:49] <ManDay> and this time i got no error message fccf
[21:49] <Aethelred> The System76 Starling has a pretty small screen. I would prefer one that was a little larger.
[21:49] <ManDay> still LC_ALL is ""
[21:49] <Gnea> mattfred: you'll need to repartition your hard drive to make sure there's space on it for XP
[21:49] <mattfred> sadly i need to use the computer with a scientific instrument that won't run under wine
[21:49] <Steil> im horny
[21:50] <LjL> Steil: we really don't care
[21:50] <mattfred> can i just reformat in ubuntu or at least make a partition?
[21:50] <Gnea> !ot | Steil
[21:50] <sebsebseb> mattfred: are you going to dual boot Ubuntu and XP?
[21:50] <miguelonnnn> hnjj, it would be your folder
[21:50] <miguelonnnn> henjj it'd be your folder
[21:50] <Steil> how do i setup rtorrent on ubuntu?
[21:50] <racha> Any1 here can help me With my Sound Card ? 5.1 ?
[21:50] <trism> mengu: what you want is gnome-terminal --working-directory=~
[21:50] <Xerran> racha: X-fi?
[21:50] <mattfred> sebsebseb: no i think because of the instrument I need to be in XP all the time
[21:51] <miguelonnnn> for example, //yourjob.domain.com/directoryOFHenjj
[21:51] <sebsebseb> mattfred: ,because of the what?
[21:51] <racha> Xerran : C-Media 5.1 if u need i will give u link
[21:51] <Gnea> mattfred: you should be able to resize whatever partition you have the most space left on in ubuntu (use the livecd) and use the remaining free space to make a new partition (make sure it's parimary, not logical)
[21:51] <mattfred> sebsebseb: a scientific instrument i need to use
[21:51] <racha> Xerran: http://www.cmedia.com.tw/pci_cmI8768.html
[21:51] <Gnea> sebsebseb: best not to ask any further :)
[21:51] <Xerran> racha: sorry I only have X-fi
[21:51] <sebsebseb> mattfred:  How much RAM do you have?  Are you sure you can't do whatever you want to do in XP VM?
[21:51] <mattfred> Gnea: Can I just reformat the drive using the livecd?
[21:51] <racha> Xerran: ok
[21:51] <henjj> miguelonnnn: thanks.  Also, should I put that command in the terminal? or should i run it by hitting alt+f2?
[21:51] <racha> Any1 here can help me With my Sound Card ? 5.1 ?
[21:51] <Gnea> Xerran: is that the usb one?
[21:52] <Xerran> racha: i know for fact there is no 5.1 support on that card
[21:52] <nemesis1911> hey guys in tvtime I get "ivtv: Invalid argument Cannont open capture device /dev/video0" but when I open capture device in VLC it work for the one channel
[21:52] <Gnea> mattfred: do you want to reinstall ubuntu as well?
[21:52] <racha> Xerran; on what card ?
[21:52] <Xerran> Gnea: no
[21:52] <mattfred> sebsebseb: I tried using VMware and it wouldn't recognize the usb connection on my computer
[21:52] <sebsebseb> mattfred: ok well what about Virtualbox ?
[21:52] <minche> i think i found a solution to my problem, but now whenever i try to run alsamixher, or aplay -l in terminal it says that it is not installed, and when i do szdo apt- get install alsa-utils it say it is already installed
[21:52] <[bandi]> üdv
[21:52] <mattfred> Gnea: no this computer is getting relegated to lab status
[21:52] <nemesis1911> hauppauge PVR-150
[21:52] <seidos> Xerran: is there 5.1 support on any cards in Ubuntu?
[21:52] <Gnea> nemesis1911: are you part of the video group?
[21:52] <racha> Any1 here can help me With my Sound Card ? 5.1 ? Pleas
[21:52] <sebsebseb> mattfred: Does your USB work?
[21:52] <fccf> mengu: I setup a kb shortcut using .. System>Preferences>Keyboard shortcuts .. and it opens to my home ... strange
[21:53] <Gnea> mattfred: ah ok. you should be able to do the whole thing with the XP install disk
[21:53] <racha> seidos: i get my C-Media to work 5.1 on OSS with ubuntu but i need some suport
[21:53] <Xerran> seidos: I only know that the creative X-fi currently has no 5.1 support
[21:53] <sebsebseb> Gnea: hmm uhmm hmm :D
[21:53] <sebsebseb> Gnea: uh hmm I meant
[21:53] <Gnea> sebsebseb: clearly it's not a personal system :)
[21:53] <mattfred> sebsebseb: yes the USB works fine otherwise and I'm really not that interested in keeping Ubuntu. This computer is going in a lab where its only purpose will be to run this instrument. I've got linux on my other computer so don't worry about that
[21:53] <mengu> fccf: thanks. trism's suggestion worked. :)
[21:53] <sebsebseb> mattfred: if  the USB works  on your system, you could  use Virtualbox for your USB device in a Windows VM
[21:53] <nemesis1911> how can I fix ivit Invalid arguments to make my hauppauge pvr-150 work
[21:53] <mattfred> Gnea: the XP install disk says I have no hard drive
[21:54] <sebsebseb> mattfred: ah right ok
[21:54] <seidos> racha: I don't have a 5.1 capable card, and I'm using pulseaudio, I wouldn't be much help
[21:54] <Gnea> mattfred: there's a way to make it work right - check out ##windows, they will know better
[21:54] <miguelonnnn> henjj  it'd be better in terminal, because then you can see any problem, and besides you'll be asked for a password, and i'm not sure if altf2 will ask it to you
[21:54] <sebsebseb> mattfred: well that's ashame that whatever  it is needs  Windows,  but  sure what Gnea said
[21:54] <sebsebseb> mattfred: regarding  the partitining
[21:54] <racha> Any1 here can help me With my Sound Card ? 5.1 ? Please
[21:54] <Gnea> !sound | racha
[21:54] <mattfred> thanks guys I just figured it was something with the journaling that the XP disk wouldn't recognize
[21:55] <racha> Gnea: btw. it dont work on ALSA
[21:55] <Gnea> racha: what soundcard is it?
[21:55] <racha> Gnea : http://www.cmedia.com.tw/pci_cmI8768.html
[21:55] <seidos> irssi is cooler than cool
[21:55] <nemesis1911> any one wanna help me with MY PVR??? ;-(
[21:56] <seidos> !irssi
[21:56] <mengu> thanks trism.
[21:56] <trism> mengu: np, all I did was look at gnome-terminal --help...always a good place to start
[21:56] <thewizord> ikonia: the ban of fogobogo was unjustified and a violation of the Europian Union.
[21:56] <mengu> lol thanks
[21:56] <erUSUL> lol
[21:57] <ikonia> thewizord: that is not for this channel
[21:57] <racha> Any1 here can help me With my Sound Card ? 5.1 ? Please
[21:57] <JuJuBee> I need some help with a USB HD.  I have a 160G external drive and it works fine  with my laptop.  When I connect to desktop, /var/log/messages gives this http://paste.ubuntu.com/269397/
[21:58] <racha> USB HDD not USB HD
[21:58] <JuJuBee> and the drive does not mount.
[21:58] <asmm> hi - if i install ubuntu on my laptop - how do i know it will install my wireless card drivers??
[21:58] <asmm> i mean.. that it will have drivers for them
[21:58] <asmm> ??
[21:58] <Gnea> nemesis1911: if you want help, you need to answer some questions, like the last one I asked that you ignored.
[21:59] <racha> asmm: it will auto install all driver if he find them :)
[21:59] <asmm> isnt there a list of compatible wireless drivers
[21:59] <erUSUL> asmm: try the livecd
[21:59] <asmm> so i know i shouldnt waste my time
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> asmm: boot to liveCD, run: sudo lshw -C network
[21:59] <asmm> ??
[21:59] <erUSUL> !hcl | asmm
[21:59] <Gnea> !wireless | asmm
[21:59] <asmm> hmm
[21:59] <racha> asmm: u can try live CD
[21:59] <asmm> action: okay sounds good
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> asmm: you can then see how linux sees the device and you can websearch from there
[22:00] <nemesis1911> .. what is the best TV TUNER PROGRAM that works?? :-)
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> asmm: it may even work out of the box, mine do
[22:00] <asmm> i will try the live CD then
[22:00] <erUSUL> asmm: if it works 8or you can make it work) in the livecd it will work when installed
[22:00] <asmm> can i boot from USB??
[22:00] <JuJuBee> racha : do you have any ideas about my external drive?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> !best | nemesis1911
[22:00] <racha> asmm: it will auto install all driver if he find them :)
[22:00] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee>Is it possible that you had it mounted in windoze and did not "safely remove hardware?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> !usb | asmm
[22:00] <Gnea> !helpme | nemesis1911
[22:00] <racha> Any1 here can help me With my Sound Card ? 5.1 ? Please
[22:00] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: what do I do about it?
[22:00] <AMethyst> hi I have a quick simple question about partitioning through fdisk can someone help me out?
[22:00] <Gnea> !patience | racha
[22:00] <erUSUL> !ask | AMethyst
[22:00] <clearscreen> !ask | AMethyst
[22:00] <nemesis1911> !helpme
[22:00] <racha> JuJubee: look i am noob for ubuntu like :
[22:00] <AMethyst> thanks
[22:01] <asmm> hey action: how will it install drivers with a live cd?? it shudnt install anything
[22:01] <racha> JuJubee: look i am noob for ubuntu *
[22:01] <JuJuBee> racha : ok
[22:01] <AMethyst> I'm trying to use ubiquity but it's having trouble so i'm just going to use fdisk,. i want to delete and repartition /dev/sda2 to use as dualbooting system
[22:01] <wwjd> I'm a newbie as well, can't seem to find the right architecture for enlightenment :\
[22:01] <AMethyst> how do I delete /dev/sda2 and redo the partitions for install?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> asmm: yuo can install apps, you can install them to a ram drive
[22:01] <AMethyst> I want a reisferfs and swap partitino right?
[22:01] <erUSUL> AMethyst: why not use gparted
[22:01] <asmm> action oh okay
[22:01] <racha> Gnea: i repet my Question because allways someone  joined and someone leave this room
[22:01] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee>Remount it in Winbloze then click on "Safely remove Hardware" to unmount.
[22:01] <asmm> action: do you reccomend ubuntu over debian?
[22:02] <AMethyst> erUSUL: it's backtrack 4 pre install gparted doesn't seem to work
[22:02] <clearscreen> asmm: matter of personal preference
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> AMethyst: you can boot to livecd then repartition, you will lose all data on the partition you manipyulate if you format to reiserfs
[22:02] <asmm> clear: i wantto try debian
[22:02] <AMethyst> i want to killl /dev/sda2 three's nothing on tha tparitition
[22:02] <clearscreen> asmm: then do so :P
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> asmm: i dont recommend any distro over any other
[22:02] <fccf> !best | asmm ... and not a topic of discussion here
[22:02] <wwjd> apt-get install debian
[22:02] <asmm> clear: 25,000 apps : )
[22:02] <cherva> can I add more levels in the Places menu ? something like for example Places->Bookmarks->Pictures->WhatEver
[22:02] <Gnea> racha: this isn't a full fix, but try it and see if you can get some of the speakers to work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1196369
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> asmm: each distro has advantages and disadvantages over others in different areas
[22:03] <tyler_d> my i-pod is auto mounting to /tmp/... how can I fix this?
[22:03] <asmm> true
[22:03] <asmm> okay
[22:03] <AMethyst> Do I want my new partitions to both be primary partitions?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> AMethyst: if you have less than 4 partitions then they can be
[22:03] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: Hmm, that sounds fishy.  It mounts fine on my Jaunty laptop but not my desktop... I don't think it is a windows thing...
[22:03] <AMethyst> Ohhh that's why ubiquity was having trouble
[22:03] <AMethyst> because I had 5
[22:03] <AMethyst> so i will have one be primary and have the swap be logical
[22:03] <erUSUL> AMethyst: depending on the layout currently on the disk you may or may no be able to make them primary
[22:04] <AMethyst> that will work correct? Thanks Actionparsnip and erUSUL
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> AMethyst: 2 will have to reside on an extended partition
[22:04] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee>It was just a thought; many make that mistake when they dual boot with external HDDs.
[22:04] <AMethyst> extended = logical?
[22:04] <racha> Any1 here can help me With my Sound Card ? 5.1 ? Please
[22:04] <erUSUL> AMethyst: no extended is the partition that holds the logical ones
[22:04] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: thanks anyway.  Any other ideas?
[22:04] <AMethyst> k thansk
[22:04] <Gnea> racha: please, don't do that. either take the help offered or wait 5-10 minutes before asking again.
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> AMethyst: no, an extended partition contains one or more logical partitions
[22:05] <AMethyst> ubiquity doesn't give an option for extended, just priamry and logical
[22:05] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee>Waht happens when you turn it on? Do you get any error msgs.?
[22:05] <racha> Gnea: look i get them all to work but i dont whana change my cable when i switching from ubutntu >to< Windows
[22:05] <Gnea> racha: also, your quewstion is just too generic - no one's going to help you unless you tell us what make and model you're using (the url helped, but it's up to you to say what it is) and exactly what problem you're having
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> AMethyst: you may find the logical partition abstracts to creating the extended for you
[22:06] <Gnea> racha: what cable?
[22:06] <racha> Gnea: my audio cables :S
[22:06] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: it does not have power switch.  It simply powers on when I connect to usb
[22:06] <racha> Gnea: ubuntu using diferent ports on my Sound card ...
[22:06] <AMethyst> ActionParsnip: create at the beginning of the disk? All this means is that it will be able to be read faster correct?
[22:06] <Gnea> racha: that doesn't make any sense.
[22:06] <racha> Gnea: IDK :S
[22:06] <Gnea> racha: which audio cables? please be specific.
[22:07] <Gnea> racha: then you don't need help?
[22:07] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269397/ shows tail -f /var/log/messages when I plugged it in
[22:07] <AMethyst> Shoud I craete a mount point? such as /boot ?
[22:07] <racha> Gnea: look, i need help to get them in same ports on ubuntu like on Windows
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> AMethyst: disk access is regulatd by where the platter is at the time of readi9ng, placing it at the start of the drive doesnt speed anything up
[22:08] <AMethyst> ok
[22:08] <AMethyst> wrod thanks
[22:08] <Gnea> racha: well, you're clearly unwilling to get detailed on how they're setup in ubuntu and in windows. failing to provide such information means that we cannot help you, obviously. care to draw a diagram or take a picture?
[22:08] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee> I have four ext. HDDs and three cards (each card has 2 ports) one card automounts as soon as I turn the device on. The other cards I have to mount by clicking Places and clicking on the divice.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> AMethyst: start building partitions from the beginning, makes things easier to calculate
[22:08] <Sidewinder1> *device
[22:09] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: it does not show in places....
[22:09] <racha> Gnea: Problem is because i dont Engl. perfectly ...
[22:09] <AMethyst> actionparsnip: nod, i plan to install windows 7, netbook remix, and backtrack eventually
[22:09] <racha> Gnea: Speek eng.*
[22:09] <Gnea> racha: okay, then yes, that is an issue. but, I think we can work with that :)
[22:09] <Gnea> racha: do you have a digital camera?
[22:09] <racha> Gnea: No
[22:10] <racha> Gnea: i need to take pic of my Sound Card ... omfg :D
[22:10] <Gnea> racha: heh, well from the way it sounds, it might help ;)
[22:10] <racha> Gnea: look i knowe i use C-Media software ... i will go on Windows now and get info from there about my Sound Card model and other things what u need ? ok ?
[22:11] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee> This looks like a clue, have you searched it? "Device offlined - not ready after error recovery"
[22:11] <Gnea> racha: okay, does your card look like this? http://www.techfuels.com/attachments/sound-card/5339d1221297399-c-media-cmi8768-sound-card-c-media-cmi8768-sound-card.jpg
[22:11] <Gnea> racha: no need - type this in your terminal:  lspci | grep audio
[22:11] <AMethyst> installing
[22:11] <racha> Gnea Something like that ... anyway i will find it and send u informations
[22:12] <Gnea> racha: I don't need the info from windows, I need it from Ubuntu.
[22:12] <racha> Gnea :01:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[22:12] <racha> He say just C-Media
[22:12] <Gnea> racha: okay. do the ports on the back of the card look exactly like that picture?
Try this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=605461
[22:12] <Gnea> racha: they're either the same or they're not
[22:12] <racha> Gnea:  just a sec
[22:13] <Gnea> racha: because there are a few cards with the same chipset, like this one: http://www.pacificgeek.com/productimages/xl/CL-S8768-8-2.jpg
[22:13] <racha> Gnea: ya but color are reverse... <
[22:14] <wwjd> what packages are out there for a really lightweight DE, or WM?  I have a new(er) laptop but goddamn gnome is really choppy
[22:14] <Gnea> racha: I don't care about the color, I care about whether the ports are the same or not
[22:14] <racha> Gnea : they are same ...
[22:14] <racha> Gnea : Just a sec ....
[22:14] <Gnea> racha: as which?
[22:14] <wwjd> what packages are out there for a really lightweight DE, or WM?  I have a new(er) laptop but goddamn gnome is really choppy
[22:15] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee>This is old but might get you pointed in the right direction: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/18877
[22:15] <Gnea> !repeat | wwjd
[22:15] <MenZa> wwjd: Well, Xfce is pretty light, if you like an interface similar to GNOME, but it's less resource-heavy. It's in xubuntu-desktop
[22:15] <fccf> !language | wwjd Jesus would not danmgod
[22:15] <racha> Gnea: here is my model http://www.prodaja-ponuda.com/slike/velike/Zvucna%20kartica%20Manli%20M-CMI8768-8CH.jpg
[22:15] <hacktop> heey ubuntu
[22:15] <MenZa> wwjd: Alternatively, there's openbox or icewm and similar, which require a fair bit of configuration before you'll enjoy them properly. But they are indeed lighter.
[22:15] <wwjd> it stands for what would joel do :D
[22:15] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>R U sure that it's not a video driver issue?
[22:16] <wamty> is is snmp built with lenny?
[22:16] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: possibly
[22:16] <hacktop> how do I make the package manager load the basic ubuntu directories?
[22:16] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: seems like a refresh rate problem
[22:16] <six> hello, is there anyway to install ubuntu on an ipod as bootable and single drive?
[22:16] <Gnea> racha: okay - now, which cables do you change between windows and ubuntu?
[22:16] <AMethyst> six: as in run as the OS for the ipod?
[22:16] <racha> Just a sec
[22:16] <racha> Gnea: sec
[22:16] <Gnea> !rockbox | six
[22:17] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: has ubuntu had problems with stock nvidia cards at all?
[22:17] <six> AMethyst,, no
[22:17] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Try changing the Hz?
[22:17] <fccf> wwjd: not to a good christian soldier ... and I am .. and I find that offensive ... so would the 12 year old just learning, which I know of at least 2 in here right now
[22:17] <six> run the ubuntu on a computer
[22:17] <six> not the ipod
[22:17] <djanatyn> Can ubuntu be installed on a USB drive?
[22:17] <six> just use the ipods drive for this
[22:17] <t2_> hi, i'm having difficult making a FAT32 partition automount so that my user can read/write/all to it.    In particular the value of umask and gid... I have umask=007 and gid=users.  can't figure out from the net what those things really do
[22:17] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: thanks, i read that  and it doesn't really seem to pertain to my problem.  Other posts suggest turning disc on then plugging in, but I dont have a power switch on my disc
[22:17] <MenZa> djanatyn: Yes.
[22:17] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: actually it's set to 0hz and I can't change it
[22:17] <fccf> !usb | djanatyn
[22:17] <AMethyst> if the ipod can be used as a flash drive then yes moste likely
[22:17] <MenZa> !fstab | t2_
[22:17] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>No problems; just sometimes the proprietary driver is necessary.
[22:17] <t2_> the current line in /etc/fstab is:     /dev/sda6  /share          vfat    utf8,umask=007,gid=users 0       0
[22:18] <hacktop> how do I make the Sysnaptic Package Manager load the basic ubuntu files?
[22:18] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: so I'm guessing that I'll be hunting down a driver?
[22:18] <six> AMethyst, so how do i install ubuntu on the drive and make it bootable?
[22:18] <racha> Gnea: i will edit image ... and i will send u a link ... juse 3-5 min ok ?
[22:18] <Gnea> racha: ok
[22:18] <t2_> hacktop: load the basic ubuntu files ?    aren't you running ubuntu already ?
[22:18] <hacktop> how I only get Amateur Radio
[22:18] <Sidewinder1> JuJuBee>Then plugging in and unplugging should duplicate the off/on switch.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> wwjd: could also use LXDE for lightness
[22:19] <hacktop> I do not see the rest
[22:19] <wwjd> is Fluxbox still being kept up to date, I used that back when I was 14, seemed to like my p133
[22:19] <fccf> hacktop: sections>amateur radio ... or section all
[22:19] <racha> Gnea: can i just make that for Windows so we can try to make same for ubuntu or u need ubuntu and windows ?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> wwjd: indeed, fluxbox rocks
[22:19] <six> can i use a usb drive as a bootable, only drive, ubuntu?
[22:19] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Should already be listed in System0000>Administration---->Hardware Driver.
[22:19] <Gnea> racha: it would help if you could do both
[22:19] <hacktop> Sections amateur radio is all I see
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> !usb | six
[22:19] <isleshocky77> Anyone not able to access the ubuntu keysever?
[22:20] <six> i dont want to have it as a live CD
[22:20] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: I'll check it out, thanks
[22:20] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>If not I guess you've gotta' go huntin'. :-)
[22:20] <six> i want to run it as it was a hdd, is this possible?
[22:20] <Sidewinder1> Welks
[22:20] <six> anyone?
[22:20] <wwjd> man, linux is a lot more polished now...
[22:21] <racha> Gnea : i say that because idk if i Get them Good for ubuntu i hear all speakers but idk. if they are Connected good :S ... i knowe for windows because i can test evety Speaker,,,
[22:21] <Sidewinder1> I love it!!!
[22:21] <AMethyst> six: I suggest googiling for running operating systems from ipods, i'm sure someone has tried i
[22:21] <AMethyst> t
[22:21] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: yeah, no hunting
[22:21] <Gnea> racha: do what is easiest for you and let me know :)
[22:21] <hacktop> I can not enter the ubuntu keyserver
[22:21] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>KEWL!
[22:21] <fccf> six: the second link explains how
[22:21] <hacktop> seems like it is down....
[22:21] <wwjd> restarting, bee arr bee
[22:21] <racha> Gnea: ok i will complete that in 5-10 min ...
[22:22] <Gnea> six: don't know, never tried it, don't even own an ipod, but if your computer will boot off of a usb driver, then perhaps...
[22:22] <fccf> hacktop: keyserver.ubuntu.com is having trouble lately ... use pool.sks-keyservers.net
[22:22] <Moon_Doggy> what command do i use to scan usb ports
[22:22] <Sidewinder1> lsusb
[22:22] <Moon_Doggy> ty
[22:22] <Sidewinder1> w
[22:22] <gofelro> I have a problem.  I find the operations of my fan (i.e. the lack of its use to cool off my motherboard and cpu) dangerous.  And if i didnt cut my processing power in half everytime i use my machine, my computer would suffer constant shutdowns due to cpu reaching critical.  I thought that if i updated my BIOS that might help but i cant find an update with a bin.
[22:23] <mazzo> hhhhh
[22:23] <sergiumihai> Hi, anyone know, where i can get ubuntu icons
[22:23] <sergiumihai> ;D
[22:23] <erUSUL> !themes | sergiumihai
[22:23] <gofelro> can anyone help me?
[22:23] <Sidewinder1> !ask\
[22:23] <six> the .iso is 137mb now?
[22:23] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[22:23] <fccf> six: that doesn't sound right
[22:24] <newproggie> Hallo zusammen
[22:24] <gofelro> ... sorry
[22:24] <kholzer> gofelro:
[22:24] <janisozaur> !de | newproggie
[22:24] <kholzer> gofelro: add more fans?
[22:25] <gofelro> hahaha
[22:25] <wwjd> haha, wow, what a difference man
[22:25] <wwjd> it opens up instantly
[22:25] <kholzer> gofelro: or mess with bios settings?  Sometimes the fans won't speed up if you have them set low in the bios.
[22:25] <gofelro> kholzer: havent touched the bios
[22:25] <wwjd> does anyone use soulseek at all?  Kinda looking for a good client
[22:25] <newproggie> I'd like to always highlight the line user@workstation:~$ in the bash. How can I achieve this?
[22:25] <fccf> gofelro: bypass the fan's motherboard powersupply and give the fan 12v directly from powersupply
[22:26] <gofelro> kholzer: ... yet
[22:26] <kholzer> gofelro: Doesn't matter.  Look in there and see if there is a threshold setting for turning the fan into a higher speed mode.
[22:26] <daBomb69> how do i change the stored RSA key for a location i ssh to?
[22:26] <kholzer> gofelro: Also, you may want to clean out your case (I cant imagine dust will help the situation).
[22:26] <janisozaur> newproggie: look in ~/.bashrc, there should be option called FORCE_COLOR_PROPMT, uncomment it
[22:26] <kholzer> gofelro: did you build the computer or buy it?
[22:27] <six> fccf
[22:27] <gofelro> kholzer: bought it but...
[22:27] <six> i just downloaded it
[22:27] <kholzer> gofelro: somebody else built it?
[22:27] <gofelro> kholzer: it had vista before
[22:27] <six> seems like its 137mb
[22:27] <six> is that possible?
[22:27] <briana> i am wired in toady, and need help setting wireless
[22:27] <newproggie> janisozaur: great, thanks
[22:28] <gofelro> kholzer: right sorry i bought it ... need the model?
[22:28] <fccf> six: failed download .. or you wrote to the file i.e. touched while it was writing ... either way download again
[22:28] <kholzer> gofelro: No.  Call the manufacturer and bitch at them.  That is bad design on their part.
[22:28] <fccf> six: should be 700megs ish
[22:28] <oliv> hi, is there iptables still used in 8. ? I installed iptables but no /etc/init.d/iptables. Is there another way to configure kernel fw ?
[22:28] <six> thanks fccf
[22:28] <fccf> briana: what kind of hardware
[22:29] <six> fccf, i am not sure of the options in the page which one i need
[22:29] <gofelro> kholzer: still ... i have no basis for this but the update might have been made to fix that problem
[22:29] <briana> im sorry, fccf?
[22:29] <six> i have a PC with no hdd, so i want to run ubuntu from a usb drive for a while
[22:29] <janisozaur> oliv: i use shorewall as a "frontend" to iptables
[22:29] <wwjd> I had a question about users here, might be common sense but anyways.   I'm using my default user so is that considered as root and should I start up another user account
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> six: use md5 checks to validate iso files
[22:29] <kholzer> gofelro: Why can't you update it?
[22:29] <gofelro> kholzer: cant find a bin
[22:30] <gofelro> kholzer: cant find all of them are marked to work in windows :S
[22:30] <isleshocky77> Anyone else having a problem using keyserver.ubuntu.com with apt-key ?
[22:30] <janisozaur> oliv: recent ubuntu versions tend to use UFW, though.
[22:30] <fccf> briana: I'd like to help you with wireless but I need some details
[22:30] <Sidewinder1> !sudo | wwjd>
[22:30] <six> fccf, i have a PC with no hdd, so i want to run ubuntu from a usb drive for a while
[22:30] <gofelro> kholzer: at least all that i can find
[22:30] <kholzer> gofelro: Theres no way to reboot and use awdflash or whatever on some boot disk?
[22:30] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Video problem solved?
[22:31] <gofelro> kholzer: dunno
[22:31] <fccf> !usb | six ... use the second link here
[22:31] <gofelro> kholzer: ill look it up
[22:31] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: Yeah, it's really fast now, but I'm still going with fluxbox or enlightenment
[22:31] <six> fccf but under the second link there are some options
[22:31] <gofelro> kholzer: thanks for your help
[22:31] <djbpython> how do i change the permissions of a file using nautilus?
[22:31] <oliv> janisozaur: well, I was able to reinject my old iptables configuration but not sure what script load it at startup time
[22:31] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: thanks again ;)
[22:31] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Sorry. know nothin' about fluxbox.
[22:31] <kholzer> gofelro: You could also boot into windows on a boot cd
[22:32] <Sidewinder1> Glas to've helped!
[22:32] <djbpython> it says im not the owner so I can't change them, I'm the only user on the system
[22:32] <kholzer> gofelro: i.e. windows PE
[22:32] <Sidewinder1> Glad
[22:32] <oliv> janisozaur: will check ufw, cheers
[22:32] <janisozaur> oliv: you can hack into existing one (networking would be my choice) or create your own service. or you can copy and try this file from some older system if you have it around
[22:32] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Did you understand the "sudo" answer to your root question?
[22:32] <gofelro> kholzer: ok ... is PE a free trial use or some promitional?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: if you arent the owner then run: gksudo nautilus   you can then change as you wish
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: use it wisely, you can really damage your system
[22:33] <oliv> janisozaur: yes sure, i am just surprised something like that seems missing
[22:33] <kholzer> gofelro: No, its somebody's hack.  Download a copy on a torrent site or build one here: http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[22:33] <wwjd> I haven't actually looked it up yet, but I will...
[22:34] <gofelro> kholzer: ah awesome thanks :)
[22:34] <Sidewinder1> !sudo | wwjd>
[22:34] <kholzer> gofelro: no problem.
[22:34] <briana> have a router/modem, a laptop 1-1/2 years old, (dell insiron 1525).  have vista working correctly, also have ubuntu succesfully finding my network, just can't get internet
[22:34] <jiffe> how can I configure a second NIC so that it has to manually be brought up and down?
[22:34] <janisozaur> oliv: it might've been moved to some package... you may try using apt-file
[22:34] <wwjd> got it, thanks
[22:34] <Sidewinder1> K
[22:34] <kholzer> jiffe: get gentoo, it does that by default ;[
[22:34] <jiffe> ie eth1, I would assume not put auth eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[22:34] <kholzer> (Sorry!)
[22:35] <pvvni> jiffe: just edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[22:35] <jiffe> auto eth1 even
[22:35] <wwjd> Sidewinder1: that's really interesting how that works actually, they're always improving which is nice
[22:35] <pvvni> jiffe: yea, just remove the auto
[22:35] <djbpython> so its normal that if I want to change the permissions of a file i need to drop in to a terminal?
[22:35] <jiffe> should ifdown/ifup work then?
[22:35] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Concur
[22:35] <pvvni> jiffe: then just use ifup/ifdown
[22:35] <jiffe> ifup seems to, ifdown doesn't though
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> jiffe: you can edit /etc/network/intefaces  and comment out auto <interface name>
[22:36] <six> hello, i have a PC with no hdd, so i want to run ubuntu from a usb drive for a while, which is the best option for me?
[22:36] <janisozaur> djbpython: why would you change ownership of lots of files?
[22:36] <erUSUL> djbpython: no unless you are not the owner of the file
[22:36] <janisozaur> six: what do you mean by "best option"?
[22:36] <six> portable linux maybe?
[22:36] <erUSUL> djbpython: and if you are not the owner you have no bussines changing them; do you ?
[22:37] <jiffe> running ifdown completes, but the NIC is still active and the IP bound to it still responds to ping
[22:37] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Just remember it's gksudo for graphical programs; if you run firefox with only sudo, it totaly borks your bookmarks and alot of other permissions!
[22:37] <janisozaur> jiffe: sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[22:37] <six> janisozaur, i see many stuff to make it like a cd live
[22:37] <kholzer> jiffe: poltergeist?
[22:37] <six> thats not what i want
[22:37] <sebsebseb> is back
[22:37] <briana> sorry, am new with linux, where is etc/network/interface?
[22:38] <janisozaur> six: ubuntu comes in usb flavor... sort of
[22:38] <kholzer> briana: it is a file on your computer.
[22:38] <jiffe> that didn't seem to work either
[22:38] <djbpython> janisozaur, erUSUL, I just installed apache httpd.conf was read only I can't quickly change the permissions in nautilus which is ridiculous
[22:38] <kholzer> briana: / is the base directory.
[22:38] <kholzer> briana: so it is /etc/network/interfaces
[22:38] <jiffe> no error, but no change either
[22:38] <Sidewinder1> wwjd>Don't know why any one would want to run FF with root priv.s anyway; sounds like a bad idea to me...
[22:38] <fccf> briana: please pastebin the output of lspci
[22:38] <janisozaur> djbpython: that's not your file for a reason
[22:38] <zleap> cd /etc
[22:38] <fccf> !paste | briana
[22:38] <newproggie> Is it possible to turn off the status messages in Xchat, every time someone quites the IRC-Connection?
[22:38] <zleap> cd network
[22:39] <jiffe> I see 'kernel: [108380.643941] eth1: link up' in /var/log/messages, nothing about down though
[22:39] <zleap> cat interfaces
[22:39] <Sidewinder1> brb
[22:39] <oliv> janisozaur: nice tool but no script for me anywhere ... will write it down
[22:39] <oliv> janisozaur: cheers
[22:39] <erUSUL> djbpython: no; is not ridicoulus. system config files like http.conf have to be editoed as superuser,. Use "Cgksudo gedit /etc/path/to/file"
[22:39] <janisozaur> six: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[22:39] <zleap> briana, you get that
[22:39] <djbpython> janisozaur, what I would imagine would happen would be similar to when I run synaptic, a dialogue pops up asking for the su password
[22:39] <erUSUL> djbpython: "gksudo gedit /etc/path/to/file"
[22:40] <six> hello, i have a PC with no hdd, so i want to run ubuntu from a usb drive for a while, which is the best option for me?
[22:40] <jiffe> this is my interfaces file: http://jiffe.com/interfaces
[22:40] <erUSUL> !usb
[22:40] <djbpython> erUSUL, again, the need to drop to the terminal
[22:40] <six> can anyone help?
[22:40] <roc888> Hello
[22:40] <sebsebseb> !ask |  six
[22:40] <kholzer> six: read what ubottu just said.
[22:40] <erUSUL> djbpython: use the alt + f2 run dialog if you prefer it
[22:40] <sebsebseb> six: oh nevermind
[22:40] <kholzer> sebsebseb: he did.
[22:41] <six> that doesnt help me
[22:41] <kholzer> six: ???  not the ask, one line before.
[22:41] <fccf> six: read the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[22:41] <briana> zleap: thats greek
[22:41] <janisozaur> six: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> jiffe: ok which interface do you want to not come up?
[22:41] <jiffe> eth1
[22:41] <six> i want to install ubuntu
[22:41] <sebsebseb> briana: I missed your issue can you repeate it,  maybe I can help a little
[22:41] <six> now to use it as live cd
[22:41] <six> or boot something else
[22:41] <erUSUL> djbpython: but you know linux people are fond of our terminals not ashamed of using them ;)
[22:42] <six> i want to use the USB as a primary hdd
[22:42] <jiffe> I took the auto out
[22:42] <Mike_lifeguard> Could someone help me with an issue with burning ISOs to CD? I consistently get errors resulting in either a coaster, or the simulated burning failing ( brasero log at http://p.defau.lt/?9ZeoqDy6lNm98CHbYYXZWQ )
[22:42] <kholzer> six: read those instructions, thats how you do that :)
[22:42] <racha> Gnea: u are here ?
[22:42] <fccf> six: persistant means it writes to the USB disk .... get it
[22:42] <jiffe> but I can't bring it manually down
[22:42] <kholzer> six: it won't be on the livecd, it will all be on the usb disk
[22:42] <six> i see some options though
[22:42] <Atrickit> good night..for everyone
[22:42] <Atrickit> ok...
[22:42] <kholzer> good night !
[22:42] <six> which one do i choose
[22:42] <Atrickit> lets talk...
[22:42] <janisozaur> !enter | six
[22:42] <briana> wany wifi to work for unbuntu.  it see my network fine, cant get internet
[22:42] <kholzer> six: you need to read both.
[22:43] <sebsebseb> briana: yeah I  thought it was a networking issue ok
[22:43] <six> unetbootin ? linux portable?
[22:43] <sebsebseb> briana: ok not really my area, but it seems your being told to open a config file
[22:43] <n8tuser> please people, prefix your conversation with the person to whom with your conversing with so its easy to follow and not get lost..
[22:43] <Atrickit> why ubuntu is better of slackware or archlinux????
[22:43] <Gnea> racha: yeah
[22:43] <IdleOne> 410
[22:43] <racha> Gnea : sec ...
[22:43] <sebsebseb> Artemis3: that's off topic, and some people  think  Slackware or ArchLinux are way better than Ubuntu,  as well as the other way round
[22:43] <erUSUL> Atrickit: ask in offtopic
[22:44] <erUSUL> !ot | Atrickit
[22:44] <nuunuu> Atrickit: because slackware doesn't have package management, and archlinux vim is borked
[22:44] <janisozaur> !better | Atrickit
[22:44] <Gnea> Atrickit: it's updated more often, it has better support, it's easier for noobs to use, it gets the job done, people like it, and, oh, btw, you're offtopic, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:44] <six> do i need unetbootin? i am now running windows
[22:44] <n8tuser> briana -> whats the problem with your wifi?
[22:44] <kholzer> six: or use the just following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[22:44] <Edico> hi
[22:44] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  briana
[22:44] <racha> Gnea: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[22:44] <Edico> knows someone why pidgin do not display yahoo avatars anymore? Can be fixed?
[22:45] <racha> Gnea: that is how they are on Windows
[22:45] <briana> okay, ill go and see if that works.  thanks
[22:45] <mordof> i'm getting: "Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.0" i was trying to do tasksel install lamp-server, but then my internet got cut off.. and so half the package was installed, now i can't remove or continue with the install, and i have no idea how to solve this. anyone able to help sort this out for me?
[22:45] <sebsebseb> briana: good luck
[22:45] <sebsebseb> !
[22:45] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1:
[22:45] <Gnea> racha: nice!
[22:45] <janisozaur> Edico: ask in #pidgin
[22:45] <JuJuBee> Sidewinder1: it seems that the USB hub it the problem or something connected to it... I also tried my front usb ports and it did not work. WHen I connected to my back usb ports, it worked. very strange...
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> jiffe: just websearching
[22:45] <fccf> briana: see my private message
[22:46] <sebsebseb> !pm |  fccf  briana
[22:46] <racha> Gnea: its possible to make that Config on ubuntu ?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> jiffe: you could add    ifdown eth1       in /etc/rc.local
[22:46] <Atrickit> but slackware has package management.....it only dont has dependendy manegement.......
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> jiffe: above the exit 0 line
[22:47] <Atrickit> ...
[22:47] <fccf> sebsebseb: I keep seeing people point briana to a link that won't help her ... I did a little research and I have a solution
[22:47] <Grexo> why is ubuntu offtopic banned
[22:47] <kholzer> Atrickit: There is no best.
[22:47] <Grexo> i cant get in
[22:47] <racha> Gnea: i rly dont knowe why C-Media didnt made Drivers for Linux :(
[22:47] <jiffe> well ifdown is what isn't working
[22:47] <sebsebseb> fccf: ok sounds good,  but if  you help  her/him here,  maybe it  can be useful for other people as well
[22:47] <Grexo> what is going on
[22:47] <Gnea> racha: have you tried using pulseaudio?
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> racha: they get more money supporting windows, they are a business so plow money where they can maximise profit
[22:48] <Gnea> Grexo: probably because you pissed someone off
[22:48] <racha> Gnea: nah
[22:48] <fccf> I was trying to but people kept stealing the show
[22:48] <fccf> I am leaving
[22:48] <Grexo> gnea the channel is a bunch of 5 year olds
[22:48] <sebsebseb> fccf: hang on
[22:48] <Grexo> what can i say
[22:48] <sebsebseb> fccf: why not help them first?
[22:48] <racha> ActionParsnip: there need to be someone who can made that drivers for ubuntu ...
[22:48] <Gnea> Grexo: then don't worry about it
[22:48] <Grexo> gnea lol
[22:48] <racha> ActionParsnip: not someone from C-media
[22:49] <Grexo> :O
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> racha: there are groups who will make drivers if companys comply with requests for info
[22:49] <racha> Gnea: What with pulseaudio ?
[22:49] <Gnea> racha: well, reason I ask, is that I have a usb X-Fi, and it has barely any functionality with alsa. when I use pulseaudio, suddenly I can change the volume and such.
[22:49] <fccf> sebsebseb: that is what I do when I am here ... but right now I see people giving REALLY BAD ADVICE
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> racha: nvidia has a massive team dedicated to making drivers which is why their driver support is awesome
[22:50] <sebsebseb> fccf: such as?
[22:50] <Gnea> fccf: i've noticed that too. it's days like today when a lot of the idiots come out of the woodwork.
[22:50] <racha> Gnea: Anyway its possible to made that same for ubuntu or ?
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Gnea: well it's the weekend, maybe that's it :D
[22:51] <cwolfx> anyone wanna play gtkatlantic?
[22:51] <rambo298> .
[22:52] <racha> so Gnea, What i need to download or what i need to do ?
[22:52] <Gnea> racha: sec
[22:53] <senorpedro> hola
[22:53] <erUSUL> !es | senorpedro
[22:53] <senorpedro> de donde??
[22:53] <senorpedro> eres el skandalo!
[22:53] <senorpedro> donde esta la zapateria???
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !es |  senorpedro
[22:53] <prince_jammys> try #shoes
[22:53] <senorpedro> lol
[22:54] <racha> Live Chat is good way of Support .... gratz for ubuntu :)
[22:55] <Queen> People don't have answers to the complex stuff here
[22:56] <seidos> !unr
[22:56] <syrius> ubuntu says it supports the webcamera but it doesn't work :( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCamerasLogitech
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> !netbook
[22:56] <syrius> I can't use it with cheese camera or tinychat.com
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> syrius: what is the ouput of: lsusb    use pastebin
[22:57] <judy> I have an hp pavilion dv8000.  Every so often (more often than not lately) I'll be typing along and something like a right click happens, even though I didn't right click.  I did not touch the track pad at all.  Left clicks happen as well.
[22:58] <syrius> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ca/raw/1562571
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> syrius: ok so the ID is 046d:09c1
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> syrius: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[22:59] <hacktop> hey
[22:59] <hacktop> I have a problem
[22:59] <sebsebseb> !ask |  hacktop
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> syrius: search the page for the ID code
[22:59] <six> i am using unetbootin to install linux to my usb, which install should i use? live or netinstall?
[23:00] <syrius> it  says "Could  not connect to video device (/dev/video0). Please check connection. when I try to load camorama ActionParsnip
[23:00] <pshr> live is what i opted for six
[23:00] <sebsebseb> !usb |  six
[23:00] <hacktop> when I boot Kubuntu I first get it with my own background...then it goes into the clasic KDE look
[23:00] <kholzer> six: pick one
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> syrius: i dont think you have the driver setup right
[23:00] <hacktop> how do I stop it from doing thst?
[23:00] <six> kholzer
[23:00] <six> whats the difference?
[23:00] <syrius> it says that it works right out of the box at ubuntu's site ActionParsnip
[23:00] <janisozaur> six: use live
[23:00] <pshr> six, check out
[23:00] <syrius> how can that be then
[23:00] <six> thanks janisozaur
[23:00] <xiong> what is the realistic burden of trying to install a complete LAMP stack on my machine? or should i say, of configuring it so that it runs as a localhost and allows me to test my perl code just as if i'd uploaded it to my remote server?
[23:00] <kholzer> six: One is over the internet, the other is through your CD drive...right?
[23:01] <hacktop> well there is another bar under the orriginal one....
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> syrius: what a website says and what actually happens can often be very different
[23:01] <pshr> well i always for get to ask this now i guess i can how do i change the boot screen from Kubuntu to Ubuntu its quite annoying to me
[23:01] <kholzer> pshr: do you really care?
[23:01] <kholzer> pshr: how often do you reboot?
[23:02] <kholzer> I think we need more cross examination in this channel...
[23:02] <pshr> kholzer, thats the same reason i delayed it so far :)
[23:02] <pshr> i've mentioned it already he he that i keep forgetting about it
[23:03] <hacktop> there is another "new" panel under the normal one without me putting it there
[23:03] <pshr> any ways asked that just outta curiosity
[23:03] <nuunuu> xiong: easiest is to use sshfs and test like that?
[23:03] <hacktop> and the background changed
[23:03] <pshr> hacktop, congrats :)
[23:03] <trism> pshr: install kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[23:03] <ubuntucrashed> i have ubuntu on HDD but it crashed, I'm on a live cd distro of BACKTRACK 3, is there a way to install a package (app-install-data) onto ubuntu through the live CD?
[23:03] <hacktop> but when I look at desktopsettings it is my old background showing up...
[23:03] <pshr> trism, you sure... i need to change it from Kubuntu to ubuntu not the other wise
[23:03] <trism> pshr: sorry, ubuntu-artwork-usplash, I misunderstood the direction
[23:04] <pshr> trism, handy thank ya
[23:04] <ubuntucrashed> i have ubuntu on HDD but it crashed, I'm on a live cd distro of BACKTRACK 3, is there a way to install a package (app-install-data) onto ubuntu through the live CD?
[23:04] <xiong> nuunuu, not sure i follow you; i'm less experienced than some, particularly to linux
[23:04] <zegusty> does anyone know the size of tty input buffers?
[23:04] <kholzer> pshr: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+bootsplash
[23:04] <hacktop> I'm on bt4
[23:05] <hacktop> Kubuntu:)
[23:05] <kholzer> pshr:  :)
[23:05] <ubuntucrashed> kde
[23:05] <hacktop> worked out the bugs personally
[23:05] <ubuntucrashed> same here
[23:05] <nuunuu> xiong: i don't know answer to your original question, but assuming you have shell to your provider, you could make it appear like its locally on your computer... is what i meant
[23:05] <ubuntucrashed> can you help me, it's a difficult task
[23:05] <racha> Gnea: u are her e?
[23:05] <pshr> kholzer, :)
[23:05] <hacktop> somehow it keeps changing my layout without me telling it to
[23:05] <trism> pshr: actually, it looks like they renamed the ubuntu version, it is usplash-theme-ubuntu
[23:05] <hacktop> sure I can help you
[23:05] <kholzer> pshr: but the first two links looked fine
[23:06] <odd_> HI, Someone who can help me? i have som trouble installing it
[23:06] <ubuntucrashed> what can i do?
[23:06] <w1ll> Has any here ever experienced not being able to delete or alter a file in /usr/sbin on hardy ?
[23:06] <hacktop> I have also installed several scripts making it more user friendly
[23:06] <pshr> hmm
[23:06] <pshr> !elaborate | odd
[23:06] <biovore> w1ll: need to be root..
[23:06] <xiong> nuunuu, i understand -- i'm trying to weigh the benefits of installing all the stuff on my own machine
[23:06] <w1ll> I am root
[23:06] <hacktop> what is the excact issue you have?
[23:06] <pshr> so am i w1ll
[23:06] <pshr> :P
[23:06] <ubuntucrashed> i have ubuntu on HDD but it crashed, I'm on a live cd distro of BACKTRACK 3, is there a way to install a package (app-install-data) onto ubuntu through the live CD?
[23:06] <w1ll> lol
[23:07] <w1ll> That's what so confusing about it
[23:07] <hacktop> let me ask my room-mate
[23:07] <n8tuser> w1ll -> use  lsattr to list the attributes, there are flags that may tell you
[23:07] <gdoteof> HI i somehow deleted my printer utility and am trying to get it back.. any ideas?
[23:07] <ubuntucrashed> hacktop: i have reason to suspect that the missing package is causing this crash.
[23:08] <gdoteof> if i go to System->administration and there is nothing about printing
[23:08] <gdoteof> I deleted a bunch of things a while back and have been slowly piecing them back
[23:08] <hacktop> Well, he said it is unlikely that you can do it by a livecd
[23:08] <gdoteof> i'm sure it's sudo apt-get **something**
[23:08] <gdoteof> but idk what
[23:08] <n8tuser> ubuntucrashed -> you can get your network working while in livecd and then chroot to your install base and maybe you can do update there
[23:09] <judy> Would proprietary nvidia drivers cause trouble with a trackpad?
[23:09] <w1ll> doh
[23:09] <judy> ok
[23:09] <w1ll> Thank you n8tuser the immutable flag is set
[23:09] <kholzer> judy: I wouldn't think so...
[23:09] <ubuntucrashed> n8tuser: how do I get my network working and chroot the install base?
[23:09]  * w1ll smacks head
[23:09] <n8tuser> w1ll -> okay, good luck
[23:09] <AMethyst> ubiquity just crashed on me anyone have experince with this?
[23:10] <six> kholzer, i am currently downloading, - are you sure this is what is best for my situation?
[23:10] <n8tuser> ubuntucrashed -> your nick is difficult to type, can you change it so its easier to identify you? too many ubuntu nicks..
[23:10] <kholzer> six: downloading the cd?  It should work fine.
[23:10] <drvenom> Will ubuntu get intel driver updates anytime soon?
[23:10] <gdoteof> How do I reinstall, or figure out what to reinstall to get my Ubuntu Printing administration widget back?
[23:10] <kholzer> six: Either way will work.
[23:10] <newproggie> n8tuser: using autocomplete for nicknames?
[23:10] <ubuntucrashed> how do i change my nick?
[23:11] <ubuntucrashed> lol
[23:11] <n8tuser> newproggie -> try it with ubu.. far too many that starts with ubu
[23:11] <trism> n8tuser: just use tab ub<tab> got it the first time
[23:11] <kholzer> six: the goal is just to get a bunch of files onto a usb-disk (and configure a few of them for your hardware and stuff).  It ought to work.
[23:11] <six> kholzer, yes, i am now on a laptop running windows with the usb attached to it, and my other PC is without any HDD, and i want to run ubuntu from the usb for a few days until i get a new HDD
[23:11] <newproggie> ubuntucrashed: just type /nick and then your new name
[23:11] <trism> n8tuser: although I am only on this channel
[23:11] <n8tuser> come on be creative.. use a unique nick
[23:11] <newproggie> n8tuser: I see^^
[23:11] <godmode> n8ter: it is me, ubuntucrashed
[23:11] <n8tuser> godmode okay, now.. you are on livecd right? and chatting with us?
[23:12] <n8tuser> btw its n8tuser..
[23:12] <kholzer> six: or you could follow this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-the-easy-way/ guide...
[23:12] <kholzer> six: looks easy enough
[23:12] <godmode> n8tuser, yes im on live cd -BT#
[23:12] <godmode> BT3*
[23:12] <n8tuser> godmode, let me check my notes to properly chroot.. hang a few
[23:13] <nuunuu> godmode: didn't they tell you not to irc as root? :D
[23:13] <godmode> lol
[23:13] <godmode> yes
[23:13] <godmode> earlier today
[23:13] <six> kholzer, looks like the same as i am doing, but english is not my native langauge so i am just asking to be sure that this is correct solution for me
[23:13] <racha> Gnea: Are u here ?
[23:14] <six> kholzer, btw i got the UNetbootin doing the .iso download because when i try it just stucks at 137mb as completed (unetbootin source is: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso)
[23:15] <DareDevil0> Hi you there, how reliable is the memtest
[23:15] <kholzer> six: it will work fine.
[23:15] <n8tuser> godmode takes a bit longer than i thought to wade through paperwork.. hang on
[23:16] <sumo_su> i'd like to install a new sound theme for the desktop... is there a folder for that? how can it be done?
[23:16] <godmode> n8tuser: its ok i can wait
[23:16] <kholzer> six: Just try it.  Come back here if it doesn't work, okay?
[23:17] <strange> anyone know how to get harmony remote software working in virtualbox (its not recognising it i think i need to fix stuff on the usb part of it)
[23:18] <trism> strange: from what I understand the virtualbox in the repos doesn't have usb support, so that may be part of your problem
[23:19] <n8tuser> godmode we'll do this per what i can remember..lets see.. you know which partition your install is on? /dev/sda1? or wherever it is, mount it to /mnt while in livecd
[23:19] <strange> trism so i need to install another vbox?
[23:20] <n8tuser> strange -> perhaps, yeah use the sun's version as what someone mentioned earlier
[23:20] <six> kholzer thanks alot
[23:20] <strange> deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian jaunty non-free
[23:20] <strange> is that the sun version?
[23:21] <DougM> where is the best place to get Ubuntu themes?
[23:22] <trism> strange: yeah that seems correct
[23:22] <godmode> n8tuser: ok
[23:22] <rambo298> why am I getting this on another channel? ##c++ :Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channe
[23:22] <godmode> n8tuser: this will take me a little while
[23:22] <sumo_su> DougM: i'd say gnome-loog.org
[23:22] <n8tuser> godmode okay.. but the steps are like these
[23:22] <DougM> sumo_su: ok cool thanks
[23:22] <AgainstTheFlow> I am having trouble accessing my shared drives on a windows box. I have installed simba but still nothing
[23:23] <sumo_su> DougM: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[23:23] <trism> rambo298: it looks like the channel requires registering your nick
[23:23] <DougM> sumo_su: yeah i googled it.. thanks for the help im looking through them right now
[23:23] <kholzer> !themes | DougM
[23:23] <n8tuser> godmode -> sudo chroot /mnt;   mount -t proc none /proc;  mount -t sysfs none /sys/; export HOME=/root  and then from there do the update or whatever apt-get you need to do
[23:23] <sumo_su> !changethemes
[23:24] <rambo298> trism: any idea how that is done? i've never done that on irc ... i guess all the chans ive been on are open
[23:24] <trism> rambo298: well, in the error message, it tells you to /msg nickserv help, so I'd probably start with that
[23:24] <rambo298> trism: :) i did ... nothing
[23:25] <godmode> n8tuser: ok i have mounted ./dev/sda1..what do i do now?
[23:25] <godmode> /dev/sda1
[23:26] <n8tuser> godmode -> /dev/sda1 is mounted on /mnt ?
[23:26] <trism> rambo298: usually you do a /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[23:26] <godmode> n8tuser: i have mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt/ubuntu
[23:26] <trism> rambo298: then /msg nickserv identify <password>
[23:27] <trism> rambo298: although you may need to confirm your email
[23:27] <n8tuser> godmode i dont know why you added ubuntu after mnt.. but modify these per your mount point modifications
[23:27] <n8tuser> godmode -> sudo chroot /mnt;   mount -t proc none /proc;  mount -t sysfs none /sys/; export HOME=/root  and then from there do the update or whatever apt-get you need to do
[23:27] <ZenithDK> hi, how do you mount a secondary disk so that a user can write to it?
[23:28] <ZenithDK> tried adding it to /etc/fstab, but it still gets mounted with root permissions, so not writable to me
[23:28] <blue112> Hello here, I really need your help.
[23:29] <sebsebseb> !ask |  blue112
[23:29] <n8tuser> ZenithDK -> can you man mount for the permissions required to allow user access? i dont remember all the options
[23:29] <blue112> I have a computer on my side which don't have a keyboard and don't have internet. How can I put some visual keyboard on it to apt-off everything I need ?
[23:29] <rambo298> trism: that worked; txs
[23:29] <godmode> i typed in the command and this is what i got : id: cannot find name for group ID 11
[23:29] <AgainstTheFlow> How can I access the shared drives on a windows box? I have installed simba
[23:30] <godmode> and now i got this: root@bt:/#
[23:30] <judy> what's the recommended method for turning on shmconfig in jaunty?
[23:30] <ZenithDK> n8tuser: I have, "user" lets the user mount it, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to give write permissions
[23:30] <biovore> AgainstTheFlow: don't need same to access a windows share..  if your running gnome look under the places window
[23:30] <biovore> (need samba)
[23:31] <blue112> Nobody can help me :/ ?
[23:31] <n8tuser> ZenithDK -> once it is mounted, sudo and modify the perms
[23:32] <ZenithDK> n8tuser: will they be kept for the next time I mount also? thought not
[23:32] <AgainstTheFlow> I go under places to network to windows network to home. It comes up unable to mount location
[23:32] <n8tuser> blue112 -> how do you expect the bits gets into your spare computer if it has no network? what is your plan?
[23:32] <blue112> n8tuser: I have an usb key
[23:33] <blue112> and this computer (where I'm talking to you) have network.
[23:33] <n8tuser> ZenithDK -> not on the next reboot,
[23:33] <ZenithDK> n8tuser: no, thought so
[23:33] <trism> ZenithDK: isn't the option rw?
[23:33] <Fascination> Hello. I wasn't sure how to word this, or where to look, so I figured I'd come here. I installed the most recent version of ubuntu on my laptop, which is a vista computer primarily. I'm dual-booting. I set aside a 8gb partition for linux, but i wanted to know if it is possible to access files that are partitioned to the vista OS from ubuntu?
[23:33] <ZenithDK> I would like for it to be automounted on all boots
[23:33] <n8tuser> blue112 -> can you elaborate whats, the capabilities of the spare pc?
[23:34] <n8tuser> ZenithDK -> my cdrom is mounted like so..   /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0       0
[23:34] <blue112> n8tuser: It's just a regular computer with a ubuntu 8.10 live cd, a mouse and a screen.
[23:35] <n8tuser> blue112 -> then use the livecd to install to it. borrow a keyboard from somewhere else
[23:35] <n8tuser> blue112 -> cant do magic without a keyboad :P
[23:35] <n8tuser> keyboard*
[23:36] <blue112> n8tuser: If I had a keyboard i'll grap it, for sure. I don't have any here. I just need to install some visual keyboard to type with the mouse :/
[23:36] <trism> Fascination: ubuntu should automatically detect them, they should be under the Places menu
[23:37] <Fascination> trism: I know this, but I'm unable to use any of the files.
[23:37] <trism> Fascination: unable to use how?
[23:38] <Fascination> trism: I access the drive, but any icon i double click on, nothing happens.
[23:38] <Fascination> I do have wine, and winetricks installed.
[23:39] <n8tuser> blue112 -> why not try to boot from livecd anyways and see if you can just use the mouse to click to get install started..
[23:39] <kholzer> Fascination: What is the ABV % ?
[23:39] <kholzer> Fascination: Type?
[23:39] <AgainstTheFlow> biovore   I go under places to network to windows network to home. It comes up unable to mount location
[23:39] <Fascination> kholzer: What?
[23:39] <blue112> n8tuser: I'm from livecd, but there's no visual keyboard included in the livecd (and it has no internet connection)
[23:39] <kholzer> Fascination: (Zinfandel, Cabernet...) :)
[23:39] <trism> Fascination: oh you're trying to run windows software, I've never done it that way, I always do wine <path_to_file>
[23:40] <erick> hello
[23:40] <ZenithDK> yeah, it finally worked
[23:40] <Babygirl> How Do I Put Music On My MP3?
[23:40] <Wawel_> rhythmbox
[23:40] <ZenithDK> my problem was that I set it to "user", which overrides the usual "suid,exec,rw,dev" apparently
[23:40] <thiebaude> !mp3
[23:40] <Vero> iTunes 9.0.0.70 stopped
[23:40] <anahel> WinAmp not running
[23:40] <Fascination> trism: I have absolutely no experience with Linux. I installed it last night. I've been able to do basic things, like install wine.
[23:40] <ZenithDK> thank you for your help
[23:41] <n8tuser> blue112 -> you dont need internet connection to install with livecd.. i was hoping if you click install, the default menu is all you can use til you get a keyboard to change things
[23:41] <wily> can anybody help me with my wifi? i have a broadcom 4353 more info at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1263730 any help is appreciated
[23:41] <tux546546464465> hi everybody
[23:41] <Babygirl> i'm sorry i don't understand robo talk can anyone helped me figure out how to put music on my mp3 player
[23:42] <tux546546464465> im looking for someone to help me with a program in c++, please
[23:42] <whatnow> Babygirl: Doesn't is "work as usb stick"?
[23:42] <marek_> hi hello
[23:42] <n8tuser> tux546546464465 -> you may try #c channel or on efnet same
[23:43] <Fascination> kholzer: I still have no idea what you're talking about. ._.
[23:43] <trism> Fascination: you may want to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[23:43] <marek_> k
[23:43] <Fascination> I'll check it out. Brb.
[23:43] <trism> Fascination: he's making a bad joke about wine the software verses wine the beverage
[23:43] <marek_> l
[23:43] <blue112> n8tuser: I want to do some things with my computer, like installing xawtv. I need a keyboard to do that, that's why I want a visual keyboard :/
[23:43] <Fascination> trism: Thank you for elaborating.
[23:44] <DougM_> irc.gamesurge.net
[23:44] <Wawel_> i've got a question regarding the screenlock
[23:44] <Wawel_> i've got a question regarding the screenlock
 i'm using a thinkpad, so i turn off the monitor with the keyboard function. upon returning i'm prompted for psswd. can this be disabled?
[23:45] <FloodBot1> Wawel_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <Hosein-mec_> i uploaded my package to Launchpad successfully but didnt receive email from Launchpad yet. any help ?
[23:45] <Ubuntu>  welcom
[23:46] <Flannel> Hosein-mec_: you might ask in #ubuntu-motu, they'll be more familiar with the process
[23:47] <Hosein-mec_> Flannel: thanks
[23:47] <jtownsend90> hey does amrok carry ipod support?
[23:48] <levander> What is the deal with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace no longer killing X?  It just locks the desktop so you have to give your password now.  How do I kill X with a key combination now?  Or, how do I set it back so that it does kill X?
[23:48] <Flannel> !dontzap | levander
[23:48] <sebsebseb> !dontzap |  levander
[23:48] <root_> how do i install app-install-data onto HD drive live CD???????????????
[23:48] <root_> HD through live CD??????***
[23:49] <levander> Anybody know why the changed that?  Kind of annoying.
[23:49] <sebsebseb> levander: xorg decission
[23:49] <levander> Where is the SysRq key?
[23:49] <root_> .name
[23:49] <root_> !name
[23:49] <sebsebseb> levander: I guess  to easy for  certain users to lose what they have done, with the old keyboard combination
[23:49] <root_> NICK godmode
[23:49] <DougM> is there anyone here using Tor with Ubuntu?
[23:50] <root_> vidalia
[23:50] <levander> sebsebseb: How long ago was that decision?
[23:50] <sebsebseb> levander: it's been awhile now
[23:50] <levander> And, I still can't find any SysRq key on my keyboard.
[23:50] <levander> sebsebseb: Yeah, it's been like 2 years since I updated Ubuntu, I'm way behind.
[23:50] <sebsebseb> levander: top right of your keyboard,  it might say print screen on it only or  prt sc
[23:50] <Hosein-mec_> hi
[23:50] <Hosein-mec_> i uploaded my package to Launchpad successfully but didnt receive email from Launchpad yet. any help ?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> levander: well 8.10  didn't have this
[23:51] <sebsebseb> levander: 9.04 does yes
[23:51] <sebsebseb> levander: I think 8.10 didn't have anyway hmm
[23:51] <levander> sebsebseb: So, even if I don't run dontzap, Atl-SysRq-K will kill X for me?
I'm not using TOR but from everything I've read it won't hide you from MPAA & RIAA, I know that's not what you wanted to hear. :-)
[23:51] <Fascination> Trism: I checked the website. No dice. Gave me a load of wonderful information that will help me with other things, but I still cannot access the files that are partitioned to my vista os.
[23:51] <sebsebseb> levander: don't know, whatever the bot said I guess
[23:52] <levander> I'm not sure I understand what the bot meant, that's why I'm asking.
[23:52] <Queen> day 4 : I'm still trying to adjust the brightness on my HP laptop, as the fn (f7,f8) combination does not work, applets don't work, adding new scripts doesn't work. The screen is extremely bright and I'm working with  xgamma -gamma 0.6 to make it at least bearable.
[23:52] <DougM> Sidewinder1: hey.. thanks.  ill have to look into it some more.  thanks for your help though
[23:53] <trism> Fascination: I have no idea what you're problem actually is, you started talking about wine, so I thought you were trying to run windows executables
[23:53] <sebsebseb> levander: should do
[23:53] <King> day 4 : I'm still trying to adjust the brightness on my HP laptop, as the fn (f7,f8) combination does not work, applets don't work, adding new scripts doesn't work. The screen is extremely bright and I'm working with  xgamma -gamma 0.6 to make it at least bearable.
[23:53] <sebsebseb> levander: that should work
Proxy srevers can be benificial, but nothing is fool-proof.
[23:54] <mrwes> Wine? where...?
[23:54] <thiebaude> mrwes, haha
[23:54] <mrwes> heh
[23:54] <mrwes> sorry
Onlyist thing we've got goin' for us id we number in the millions... :-)
[23:54] <DougM> Sidewinder1: hahaha.. true that
[23:55] <armence> What's a good RSS reader for Ubuntu?
[23:55] <Fascination> Trism: I'm trying to use windows executables through wine that are on a different partition than what ubuntu is. Ubuntu has a 8GB partition, and vista has a 118 gb partition, and most of everything I want to use. I can browse these files in ubuntu, but I cannot use them.
[23:55]  * Dadang help me
[23:55]  * Dadang help me
[23:55] <mrwes> armence, Firefox?
[23:55] <armence> mrwes
[23:55] <nono> hey
[23:55] <armence> mrwes I was thinking something with notification type functionality
[23:55] <e370> whats the off topic chan?
[23:56] <Sidewinder1> !hi | nono
[23:56] <nono> thanks
[23:56] <trism> Fascination: I don't know that you can double click them to run them, have you tried running them from the command line with wine path/to/executable/here
[23:56] <bazhang> !ot > e370
[23:56] <mrwes> armence, did you google it?
[23:56] <levander> That output when you login that says how many packages can be updated.  What command do you run to see that output?
[23:57] <mrwes> armence, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-rss-readers-available-in-ubuntu.html
[23:57] <e370> thanks
[23:57] <mrwes> b00m!
[23:57] <armence> mrwes: I was hoping for more of a recommendation
[23:57] <mrwes> armence, heck -- even Evolution has an RSS plugin
[23:58] <mrwes> armence, test drive a couple, best way I know to find out which one I might like
[23:58] <e370> i came here to ask because of all the recent hacking of sites like twitter and facebook, how do i know my pc is safe?
[23:59] <trism> Fascination: near the bottom of the link I sent you it talks about using winefile to navigate the folder if you want to double click to run stuff
You're using ubuntu. You're safe!
[23:59] <mrwes> e370, cuz you're running Linux, that's how
[23:59] <whatnow> e370: Put a textfile in /home and write into it "if you hacked me, please overclock my graphics card to 300% so I know"?
[23:59] <mrwes> no kaaboom virus, etc
[23:59] <mrwes> heh whatnow
[23:59] <e370> so uuntu is 100% safe?