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madberryyou use /whois madberry00:00
davidscottok :) thanks the expert of irc :) i'm a real noob in irc ^^00:00
madberrylol00:00
madberryTime for a reboot just updated Karmic00:01
e370who's hacking facebook00:01
e370these guys are idiots00:01
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serprev_quit00:06
corheh00:06
davidscotthow can i change color of foreground?00:07
fahadi have ubuntu and yestarday installed KDE now i have programes of Kubuntu in my gnome , can i hide it just in gnome ?00:10
fahadanybody here ?00:11
madberryyes fahad?00:11
fahadmadberry:  i have ubuntu and yestarday installed KDE now i have programes of Kubuntu in my gnome , can i hide it just in gnome ?00:12
shadeslayerfahad: nope00:12
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fahadok can i uninstall KDE ?00:13
madberryfahad as far as I know this iis not possible if you are done with Gnome all together you can remove the ubuntu-deskto by running "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" without quotes00:13
madberryand in terminal lol00:13
fahadaha00:13
fahadthx man :)00:14
madberryyw00:14
sunoracleadminmadberry is the best he help me yesterday answering some kubuntu questions00:14
fahad:)00:14
madberryjust doing my part for the community00:15
james9112i am new at this what   do     i do?00:15
madberryjames9112 what do you do with what?00:15
fahadmadberry : thats why i love linux bcz we are community00:16
james9112i  need to find drivers for my AiO3 all in one printer form Kodak00:16
madberry!print | james911200:17
ubottujames9112: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows00:17
lovrehi all00:18
fahadhi00:18
james9112is this like IM on a standard computer00:18
madberryprinting a a complicated thing is some cases please refer to those pages they explain it all00:18
lovrehow can i play ASX stream? I tried opening it with Amarok, but it doesnt play. Neither with Audacious....00:18
james9112Thank you for your assistance madberry00:18
madberryjames9112 yw00:19
james9112I will try the locations for the drivers Thanks again00:20
madberryupdating to the new version of tweetdeck wish me luck lol00:20
sunoracleadminjames9112>nope its better to say this is irc and a support for kubuntu users00:21
madberryTweetdeck update looks nice00:24
lovrecan someone please help me by trying to play this stream, i dont know if its just me or it doesnt work: http://www.radiomaria.org/media/croatia-hq.asx00:24
madberrylovre loading the stream hold on00:25
madberrylovre try playing the stream in VLC00:26
lovremadberry: so does it work?00:26
lovremadberry: or not, i didnt understand00:27
lovremadberry: ah, lol, you said hold on....00:27
sunoracleadminlol00:27
lovremadberry: vlc didnt work..... :(00:27
madberrylovre checking the VLC log right now00:30
lovremadberry: ok thank you00:31
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xtremeandrewCan someone point me in an initial direction to install my USB Wireless LAN thingy?00:31
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Guest51279oi00:32
Irvinghello00:32
madberry!network | xtremeandrew00:32
ubottuxtremeandrew: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:32
xtremeandrewawesome thanks00:32
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xtremeandrewbut...I have Wireless via a pcmcia card..I want to install my USB WLAN card.  How do I do USB?00:33
madberrylovre the log says VLC gets a 404 on http://eu.media.radiomaria.org:8000/mp3/cbr/32/croatia00:33
Irvingi am having trouble connecting to a wireless network, if someone could help it would be great00:34
madberryIrving did you try the above link to the wiki?00:35
xtremeandrew!network | Irving00:36
ubottuIrving: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:36
xtremeandrew!usb00:36
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent00:36
xtremeandrewthanks for the self-help00:36
madberryxtremeandrew what is the chipset what USB wireless device we need more info00:38
xtremeandrewnetgear WG111T00:38
madberry!ndiswrapper | xtremeandrew00:40
ubottuxtremeandrew: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:40
madberrylook at the ndiswrapper section as far as I know there are no linux drivers for that device00:40
xtremeandrewok, figures...thanks.00:41
Irvinghello00:41
madberryyes Irving?00:41
Irvingi need some help with connecting kubuntu to my wireless network00:42
Irvingi am on a fresh install of kubuntu 9.0400:43
Irvingi added my network info, hit scan, selected my SSID, entered security00:43
sunoracleadminkubuntu;can actually work on most wireless devices out from the box right00:43
Irvingbut it will not connect, and I can't find the connect button00:43
Irving@sunoracleadmin it did work previous install00:44
madberrysunoracleadmin: yes but check the hardware comp. list to be sure00:44
Irvingnot even a week ago i had a fresh install from the same CD and it worked fine00:44
madberryIrving: are you using the network manager?00:44
IrvingI didn't have to tinker with anything, plugged in my usb wireless card and it connected automagically00:44
Irvingit says Network Managemet00:44
Irvingin the task bar area, when I mousover it shows etho0: unavailable and wlan0: not connected00:45
madberryIrving: the previous install was also 9.04?00:45
Irvingcorrect00:45
Irvingi do recall seeing a different network setup area before when it was working though00:46
sunoracleadminso you meant it worked before but now it stop working00:46
Irvinghttp://vizzzion.org/images/blog/networkmanager-kde4.png00:46
Irvingyes00:47
Irvingnew install though00:47
Irvingi was trying to put windows on, had major problems, formatted everything, installed kubuntu 9.04 again00:47
Irvingthe screenshot shows what I remember seeing, something similar to that with the bars on the networks (in my case only one, my wireless network)00:47
Irvingi don't have that now, just the box to the left on the screen shot00:48
madberryIrving:  You need to finish the network setting to be able to connect00:48
Irvingwhat do you mean00:49
sunoracleadminwherein you have to supply an ssid and an ecryption key or a password00:50
Irvingi did do that00:50
madberryIrving:  In the Image it says that you are connected to your default network00:50
Irvingthe image isn't mine, i just googled that quick00:51
Irvingjust to show what I can't find, that menu on the lower right showing the networks00:51
Irvingi remember seeing it before, when I was able to connect, now that doesn't come up00:51
IrvingI went through and entered all of my settings in the other box to the left but it doesn't connect00:51
sunoracleadminare you sure you have internet connection to your router00:52
Irvingyep, on it now on laptop via wireless00:52
madberryIrving:  ah It seems that the wireless hardware isn't working right.  Open terminal and run "iwconfig" to determine if your wireless is working.00:53
sunoracleadmintry that first irv00:54
vladahi00:54
Irvingok ran it, various things come up that all say "no wireless extensions." except for wlan000:54
vladaI have a big problem with pre-9.1000:54
Irvingwlan0 says: IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:""00:54
vladaI cant enter partitions manually00:55
IrvingMode:Managed  Frequency 2.412Ghz00:55
vladaanyone experienced that?00:55
madberryviada: please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic prroblems00:55
IrvingAcess Point: Not-Associated00:55
IrvingTx-Power=15 dBm00:55
IrvingRetry min limit: 700:55
IrvingRTS thr:off00:55
madberryIrving: now run "iwlist scanning" do any networks come up?00:56
IrvingFragment thr=2352 B00:56
vladamadberry: thanx00:56
Irvingyes it found my network00:56
madberryvlada: yw00:57
madberryIrving: Try restarting this sometimes works00:57
sunoracleadminbrb guys,rebooting...00:57
rosco_yCan anyone recommend a "ToDo Manager"?00:57
Irvingok will do, but I have tried this several times already00:57
Irvingrosco_y: like a to do list type thing?00:58
madberryrosco_y: Kontact00:58
rosco_yIrving: exactly00:58
rosco_ymadberry: is that a contact organizer?00:58
Irvingi know of a great site for it, tons of features on it was free when I used it a while back00:59
rosco_yI need a todo list to keep me focused on my tasks00:59
Irvinghttp://www.goalsontrack.com/00:59
rosco_yIrving: is it opensource?00:59
Irvingweb based app, sends you reports on precentages and stuff00:59
Irvingidk00:59
madberryrosco_y:  Yes but it also holds kmail, notes etc.00:59
Irvingi don't thinks so00:59
rosco_y(not that I want to modify it, I just can't aford to pay for software right now :((00:59
Irvingno its free01:00
Irvingno software to download, just sign up for an account01:00
madberryrosco_y: Open Kontact the todolist Icon is on the left01:00
Irvingand you can create projects, tasks within each project, when you would like to have it done by, etc01:00
rosco_ymadberry: Thank you, I'll give it a shot01:00
rosco_yIrving: it does look very nice, it's sold as a service I see...01:01
rosco_y$10 per month?01:01
Irvingoh ok sry, havn't used it in a while01:01
Irvingit used to be free, but that was a while ago sorry about that01:01
rosco_yIrving: :) sokay--thanks in every case!01:02
Irvingnp01:02
Irvingok madberry i'm rebooted, still not connecting01:02
madberryIrving: no list either?01:02
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Irvingwhat do you mean no list?01:03
madberryIrving:  in the plasmoid01:03
Irvingum01:03
Irvingim very new to this, not sure of all the terminology01:04
rosco_ymadberry: wow, I really like this Kontact01:04
rosco_yThanks for the tips!01:04
madberryrosco_y:  Me too lol yw01:04
Irvingi have the network management icon in the task bar on the lower right01:05
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madberryIrving: No list?01:06
Irvingim not sure what you mean01:06
madberryyou should see a list of wireless networks when you right click on the icon01:07
Irvingwhen i right click the icon I get...01:07
IrvingManage Connections, Network Management Settings, Panel Optioms, Remove this Network Management01:07
corThunderbird can do it all with plugins, too.01:08
Irvingno list yet01:10
madberryIrving: Did you hand edit the /etc/network/interface file?01:11
Irvingno01:11
Irvingthat file contains only two lines for me01:12
Irvingauto lo01:12
Irvingiface lo inet loopback01:12
madberryIrving:  that is correct hold on searching for an answer01:14
Irvingok ty01:14
corwhat sort of connexion we setting up?01:16
corman:interfaces is where to start01:16
corin konqueror01:16
Irvingwireless connection01:16
corWPA?01:17
madberrycor: Quick recap he's trying to connect to a wrieless network with knetwork manager but no networks sjhow up in the list of the plasmoid01:17
coriwlist scanning01:18
corin the shell01:18
madberrygives a list of networks01:18
corI guess you need to be root. do sudo -i before starting all this stuff01:18
madberrynot for iwlist scanning01:18
corif the interface is up, it shows you all the available networks01:19
Irvingits wpa01:19
corfirst you need to get the interface up01:19
Irvingok01:19
Irvinghttp://vizzzion.org/images/blog/networkmanager-kde4.png01:19
Irvingthe thing on the rightside of that screenshot?01:19
madberryhe gets a list through iwlist but not in the plasmoid01:19
corI don't use any of the GUI network tools, so I'll be no help with that side of things01:20
madberryI don't use it either I don't like the network managers01:21
Irvingis there a way I can connect through the terminal01:21
corsure01:21
coryou simply add some lines to /etc/network/interfaces,. and then bring up the interface01:22
madberryIt's time for dinner here cor you want to pick it up?01:22
corwell, I can try!01:22
madberrycool01:22
Irvingthank for the help madberry, enjoy your dinner01:22
corIrving, see here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html01:22
Irvingok01:23
madberryIrving: yw I'll be back later if it doesn't work out01:23
corat least, keep it handy as a reference01:23
corThere's a document I;ll need to locate, hidden deep inside your system, one moment01:23
coror two01:24
madberryIrving: You could try this: http://madberry.org/2008/08/wireless-with-wpa_supplicant-easier-then-you-think/01:24
coraha! /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces01:25
madberryokay off to dinner01:25
Irvingk bye madberry, thanks again01:25
corit has no WPA-specific examples, but it is an excellent reference to help you understand what's going on. Once you do, you can setup *any* network interface01:26
madberryIrving: in your case the interface would be wlan0 in my article01:29
corThe cool thing about the interfaces file is that as well as the ifup commands, you can do pre-up commands, and basically run any unix command-line as part of the ifup (interface up) process. In other words, no matter how complicate dthe setup is, you can store all the steps required in that one file, and they will be processed automatically by ifup01:29
corand post-up, and more01:29
madberryokay really gone now lol01:30
corheh been there01:31
Irvinghmm01:33
Irvingmadberries guide seems easy to follow, should I follow those steps?01:33
Irvingbtw i looked through the network-interfaces01:34
Irvingseems interesting, so you can actually edit the interfaces file to custom setup the connection however you want it?01:34
Irvingah, I can't do madberry's guide because I don't have wired connection to do the apt-get parts01:37
corsorry, got sidetracked there a second01:37
corthe interfaces file is very powerful01:38
corhow are you chatting?01:38
Irvingother computer01:38
coryou could apt-get download and transfer over01:38
Irvingwell this computer is vista not linux01:39
corhere's a simple looking guide for WPA, skip past part 1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-debian-ubuntu-linux-wlan-wpa2-configuration.html01:39
corahh i seee!01:39
corit's still doable!01:39
corbut all you need is already on-board01:40
corOnce you get the correct lines in there, you just do ifup wlan0 and wham!01:40
corthereafter, bootup does it automatically01:40
Irvingsounds good01:40
Irvingonly problem is I am very new to linux01:41
Irvingso this is all very overwhelming haha01:41
corbasically ifup -a, which is "all interfaces" (in whatever order you specify)01:41
corit is, you are right01:41
corit's a totally different way of doing things01:41
corKubuntu. more than any other flavour of decent Linux, is Windows-like, but underneath all that, it's still Linux, and to take full advantage of that, you need to adopt, at least partially, a UNIX mindset01:42
cordo you know how to access man pages?01:43
Irvingtyping man:interface like i did before into knoqueror?01:43
coryes! excellent. these aren't for beginners, sadly, and they mostly expect you to *already* know what you are doing.01:43
corbut once you know a wee bit, they start to become *extremely* useful01:44
corDo you know what a command-line is?01:44
Irvingterminal?01:44
corwell, yeah, it could be in the terminal01:44
corbasically, it's a"command" (usually a program, but often one of the built-in terminal (okay, "BASH") commands01:45
corfollowed by some arguments01:45
Irvingoh ok01:45
corfoo-program --special-behaviour /path/to/my/file01:46
aj_444The sound isn't working on kubuntu. Any ideas on how to solve this?01:46
cor^^ the program  ^^ a switch ^^ a file you want the program to do something to01:46
Irvingok i see01:46
corparts 2 and 3 are optional01:46
corbut that is a command, and any time anyhting happens anywhere on any computer, it's because some process or user or *something* sent a command-line to the system01:47
corit's the same on windows. but once you understand that *everything* that's going on was started and gets controlled this way, you can do all sorts of powerfully useful things01:48
Irvingyep one of the reasons I started tinkering with linux01:48
coryou might have guessed, I'm a believer in folk understanding the fundamentals. cuz it saves you SO MUCH TIME, later01:49
Irvingthat makes sense01:49
correally, I see folk wasting so much time messing around with stuff it would have taken a fraction of the time to UNDERSTAND, if only they'd read the manual, slowly!01:49
corit really does!01:49
corfor example, I like Gilles Peterson01:50
corA dj on Radio 1, UK01:50
e370i prefur smooth radio01:50
corOn windows, I used to send firefox to the radio one site every wed night, and go listen01:50
corbut usually I forgot01:50
corand sometimes I forgot and missed the entire show01:51
corOn Linux, it's different01:51
e370How do i install a netbookremix.img file onto a ssd card01:51
e370sd i mean01:51
corI have a script that runs on a cron (aka "schedule"), that contact the bbc site, which tells anothe program to grab the stream, which tells another program to convert it and drop it into my Radio folder01:51
corand finally, tells another program to grab the playlist01:52
corBut when I wake up Thursday, it's *just there*01:52
Irvingsounds cool01:52
corit is cool01:52
corit's power01:52
Irvingi'd love to learn more, and intend to01:52
corTall those wasted minutes mount up01:52
cor*all01:52
sunoracleadmincor: what a great script you got there01:52
corscript?01:52
coroh right! the radio!01:53
corfeck yeah!]01:53
corget_iplayer01:53
corit's available! go for it!01:53
cornot mine. I just downloaded it01:53
corand cronned it up01:53
corThere's a cgi back-end so you can index shows loacally in your browser, plugins for other networks, and much much more. check it out!01:54
corI got the entire Desparate Romantics 6-part on beautiful 720p HDTV01:54
Irvingyou use bit torrent?01:55
cor(automatically piped through ffmpeg on download, to switch out the container from flv to mp4, so me media players don't fart on it)01:55
corI do, yes, 24/701:55
Irvingme too01:55
Irvingwell usually01:55
Irvingin a fix right now, i boned my computer01:56
corone sec01:56
Irvingok01:56
sunoracleadminthats cool boneing...01:57
corboned yer puter!?! you dirty sod!01:58
corwhich port?01:58
corlol01:58
Irvinghaha01:59
Irvingi got a virus of some kind01:59
corWIndows?01:59
Irvingran combo fix which helped me many times01:59
Irvingyes windows XP01:59
corGOD is telling you to switch 100% Linux01:59
corLISTEN TO GOD!01:59
Irvingi know right haha02:00
Irvingafter running combo fix, computer never came back up02:00
corouch02:00
Irvingand my XP cd is 5 hours away02:00
sunoracleadmingot to catch some sleep nice meeting all here at the channel cya latr02:00
Irvingtake care02:00
cormaybe!02:00
Irvingsomeone i know got me a SP3 corporate disk image of xp02:01
Irvingthat won't install for anything02:01
Irvingno XP cd to use my legit license02:01
Irvingand now no network connection for kubuntu :(02:01
Irvingfighiting a losing battle here lol02:02
cormemory stick?02:02
coranyways, back to the interfaces02:02
cordid you check out that page?02:02
Irvingi did try to put the contents of the SP3 image onto a thumb drive, that didn't get me anywhere though02:03
Irvingwhich page, I looked at a few of them you sent02:03
corI meant for transferring any stuff over. but there should be no need. just good config.02:03
corhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-debian-ubuntu-linux-wlan-wpa2-configuration.html02:03
corinstead of ra0, yours would likely be wlan0, I'd imagine02:04
Irvingyes thats what it is02:05
corThe important thing is to set the correct ID and keys02:05
corI don't think you need pre-up commands for this, there should be native commands, but I'd try both02:05
Irvingauto ra002:06
Irvingiface ra0 inet dhcp02:06
Irvingpre-up iwconfig ra0 mode managed02:06
Irvingpre-up ifconfig ra0 up02:06
Irvingpre-up iwconfig ra0 essid nixcraft02:06
FloodBotK1Irving: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:06
Irvingpre-up iwpriv ra0 set AuthMode=WPA2PSK02:06
Irvinghello?02:06
corwoah!02:06
Irvingmy fault02:06
corany more than 3 lines, use pastebin02:07
Irvingi was just going to verify which section i should be dealing with02:07
coryou are on the right track, yes02:07
Irvinghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/269494/02:08
Irvingso i would replace ra0 with wlan002:08
corMy point was, that guide exclusively uses pre-up commands, but that should not be necessary. For examplepre-up iwconfig wlan0 essid "foo" is the same as..02:08
Irvingand then contiune through the settings with my ssid and such02:08
corwireless-essid foo02:08
coryes, that's about the size of it02:08
corthen save the file and do ..02:08
corifup wlan002:08
corInterFace UP02:09
cornot that second line, that's me exaplaining the first02:09
Irvingok, what about the auto lo, iface lo inet loopback that is already in the interfaces file02:10
fahadhello again i installed blender in my ubuntu its not working good my brother has mac OS its working very good :(  , what can i do ??02:14
fahad?02:17
Irvingidk where they went fahad02:18
Irvingid help you but, I have very little knowledge of linux02:18
fahadok anybody else ?02:18
Irvingif your still here cor, i added that bit to the interfaces file but it wouldn't let me save it02:20
coryo!02:21
corno save? how you editing?02:21
Irvingopened file by clicking, opened with Kate02:24
cori see02:25
coryou need to edit as root02:25
corthe easiest way is to open the folder as root in Dolphin02:25
corthen you can work with it, edit it, whatever, as a root user, all transparently02:25
coror else use mc02:25
corsudo mc02:26
corassuming mc is installed. if not, do..02:26
corsudo aptitude -y install mc02:26
corstill there?02:26
Irvingyep sry people IMing me02:27
corafaik, you can only open a folder as root in Dolhin if you have a proper root user setup on your machine, with a password and such. I'm not certain because I don't have machine's setup without a root password for more than a few minutes during intial install02:28
corbut it's easy to do02:28
Irvinghmm i have a login password02:29
corsudo passwd root02:29
Irvingi did open from dolphin, but it opened in kate02:29
corfirst enter your regular admin password02:29
corTHEN02:29
corenter your desired root password02:29
corthen repeat it02:29
corTHEN you have a root account with a proper login, and folk can't boot your machine directly into recovery mode and take over your system!02:30
Irvingpasswd: password updaed succesfully02:30
corkewl02:30
Irvingso do i hae to re login now02:30
corn ow, in dolphin address bar (I assume you know how to get to that)..02:30
corsftp://root@localhost/02:30
coryou get a login window, user user: root, password: your new root password02:31
corso far so good?02:31
Irvingi put that into the bar in dolphin it says Unknown error unexpected SFTP error: 802:34
cordo you have an ssh server running?02:35
coroh feck! that's something that probably need to be installed on a vanilla Kubunto FOR SOME OBSCURE REASON!!!!!!!02:35
coropenssl-server02:35
Irving??02:36
corYou can download .deb packages and transfer over, or if you have the DVD version ,it's probably on there.02:37
Irvingi just have the 9.04 install cd from the website, nothing eles installed02:37
cornot a problem, there are other ways to edit the file as root, for now02:37
cor#install that stuff later02:37
Irvingok02:37
corin a shell..02:37
corsudo kate02:37
cornow you have a ROOT copy of kate running.. BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!02:37
corroot user can do *anything*02:37
corpretty much, which means delete the wrong file and it's game over02:38
coranyways, in rootkate, open /etc/network/interfaces, and copy over your edited text from regularkate02:39
cortriple-check it for errors, and then save. quit rootkate02:40
Irvinggot a bunch of errors when i put in sudo kate02:41
Irvingit did open however02:41
Irvingbut now the terminal is showing errors02:41
Irvingi typed in /root/etc/network/interfaces/ and it says failed to open dir02:41
corignore terminal02:42
Irvingok02:42
corno type02:42
corCtrl-O02:42
coropen file02:42
cor /root/etc/network/interfaces/ is not a folder, it does not exist. /root/etc/network/interfaces <- no slash. is a FILE02:43
Irvingok i got it opened02:43
Irvingah that would explain it02:43
corkewl. copy, paste, check. save.02:43
Irvinghow serious is this if the code is not right02:44
Irvingcause im not positive of any of it02:44
cornot serious, unless you do pre-up <stupid command>02:44
corstupid like rm -rf /02:44
Irvingwell i do have some pre-up as the tutorial metnioned02:44
corcuz ifup will just do your pre-up commands as0is02:44
corbut no ifconfig command is gonna wreck anything02:45
Irvingok so how do i remove them, can I just delete the pre-up in front of the iwconfig02:45
coryou just do ifdown wlan0 and try again02:45
corremove what?02:45
Irvingthe pre-up part of the code02:45
corno need02:46
Irvingcan i just delete, or do i have to change any other part02:46
corunless you have inserted some other crazy commands that need deleting02:46
Irvingpre-up iwconfig wlan0 mode managed02:46
Irvingcan i just remove pre-up02:46
corearlier, I meant that some of those pre-up commands don't need to be pre-up commands, you could use the (shorter, simpler) built-in ifup commands02:46
corNO02:46
corbut you can REPLACE them with built-in commands02:47
corif you know which commands correspond to which. I gave an example, earlier02:47
cortry it all pre-up first. if it work, miracle! then you can try replacing them one at a time02:48
Irvingbut it wont cause me harm02:48
corcommenting out the pre-up version , and inserting the non-legacy version in its place. But seriously, if it works, you just leave it alone and be happy.02:48
Irvingcause there are a bunch of pre-up02:48
cornot at all02:48
corUNLESS THEY ARE STUPID COMMANDS02:49
corlike I said02:49
Irvingok i think im ready to save this02:49
corbut if it's just regular ifconfig and stuff, not a problem, no02:49
Irvingoh ok02:49
Irvingill run it as is and see what happens02:49
corpoint I'm tryiong to make is..02:49
Irvingoh, do i need to get rid of auto lo, iface lo inet loopback02:49
corif you fuck up and put some *other* command in ther *by mistake* ifup will run it AS ROOT02:50
corNO! leave them alone02:50
coryou begin a whole new stanza for the wifi02:50
corifup brings them up in order, see. local, ethernet, wifi (usually) always lo first, though02:50
Irvingah ok02:51
corfor example02:51
corlet's say you have a shutdown script in /usr/local/bin02:52
corfor quick typing, you name it "s"02:52
corwhen editing your interfaces file, you save it (Ctrl-C), but your finger didn't quite hit the control key. so now there's an extra "s" in that script02:52
coror some othter script02:52
coryou can see where I'm heading with this02:53
corSome of the UNIC commands (programs) have very small names, and this is why any command you enter as root, or script that needs to be saved as root must be triple-checked before saving.02:53
cor*UNIX02:53
Irvingah i see02:54
Irvingshould i use the command now that they give to reset the networks02:54
corThe extra couple of seconds spent developing this good habit could save you potentially days and weeks of future downtime, as well as lost work.02:54
corwhat is it?02:54
corsudo /etc/init.d/networking restart02:55
corthat should work02:55
Irvingyes thats the one02:55
corif you have that stuff installed (yeah, probably) then start with that02:55
Irvingi have the terminal open for a while now02:55
corkeep it open!02:56
Irvingi see now how all the programs run commands through02:56
coralways handy02:56
Irvingmakes a lot of sense02:56
corif you are going to need to do lots of root commands, doing sudo command gets boring. instead, do..02:56
corsudo -i02:56
corthen you get root and stay there02:56
corwhen you are messing around with networking, it saves lots of time02:57
corall networking commands need to be done as root, pretty much02:57
corall the good stuff, anyway02:57
Irvingno dice, got: Reconfiguring network interfaces...02:57
Irvingwlan0 no private ioctls02:57
Irvingfailed to bring up wlan002:57
corI have no idea what that means02:57
cordo: ifdown -a02:58
coras root02:58
corall comands from here, as root!02:58
corthen do: ifup -a02:58
corwe should get better error messages02:58
cortry: ifup -va02:59
corit possibly has a verbose mode02:59
Irvingok it did02:59
Irvingsudo ifdown -a02:59
cordid what?02:59
Irving*i did02:59
Irvingthen i did the network restart command again02:59
corsudo -i02:59
Irvingthis time it says02:59
Irvingifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied03:00
cornonono03:00
Irvingidup: failed to open sate file ... (same as other one)03:00
corforget that network restart thing03:00
corsudo ifdown -a03:00
corsudo ifup -a03:00
corNOW what does it say?03:00
Irvingok i did sudo ifdown -a03:01
Irvingnothing happened03:01
Irvingsudo ifup -a03:01
Irvingi got the original error03:01
corthat just stops them all03:01
Irvingwlan0 no private ioctls03:02
Irvingfailed to bring up wlan003:02
corwhat do you get when you do: sudo iwconfig wlan003:02
coranything?03:02
corhas your ESSID been associated?03:02
corand pastebin your interfaces file as-is03:03
Irvingit does have my correct ESSID03:03
Irvinghmmm03:05
corI'm windering if the network manager is interfering here. I always uninstall that stuff first03:05
Irvingshould I do that?03:05
cormaybe google a bit. I'll brb03:05
Irvingok03:06
cormaybe you can simply disable network manager in the meantime03:08
corcan it not be done from the panel somewhere?03:08
Irvingi don't know03:09
coris there an applet?03:09
Irvingidk03:09
corlook for a checkbox to disable networking03:09
Irvingif i click remove this network management03:09
corwhere is that?03:09
Irvingright click on the taskbar icon03:09
cornah03:09
corthat just removes the applet from the panel03:10
cordid you pastebin your interfaces file?03:10
ubuntui like03:10
ubuntuubuntu03:10
coranother command to use all the time (with iwconfig wlan0) is: ifconfig wlan003:11
Irvinglol ubuntu03:11
* cor agrees with cor03:11
Irvingwhat is the difference03:11
ubuntu:)03:11
cortry em both and see!03:11
Irvingok03:11
ubuntujust installed it03:11
ubuntuon my imac03:11
ubuntuso pretty03:11
coror make a script that does both, call it "ifiw"03:11
corubuntu on imac. nize03:12
Irvingah ok i see03:12
corifconfig --help03:12
Irvingim considering using ubuntu instead if I can't get this fixed03:12
coriwconfig --help03:12
coryou can set all sorts03:13
ubuntucorrection03:13
Irvingok isee the difference now between the two03:13
ubuntuim running kubuntu03:13
ubuntu;)03:13
corwith the right drivers, you can even exceed legal power levels and really SCAN03:13
corMy old Acer can see for MILES! ;o)03:13
ubuntuo ya cor?03:13
ubuntugot a reference site on how to do thsi?03:13
coryeah, backtrack03:14
Irvinghaha sounds like fun03:14
coras well as the BT4 disc, they do criver patches for all the main chipsets03:14
cor*driver03:14
corswitch to monitor mode, the works.03:14
ubuntuill have to look for this03:14
ubuntusounds fun03:14
corhttp://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html03:15
corStick it on a USB stick or spare partition, handy.03:16
corBut even without special drivers, you can still do cool stuff like fake your WiFi's hardware MAC03:16
cornote: if you live close to a hospital/police/military base, boosting your WiFi levels might not be clever.03:17
corBut if you are in the middle of an urban sprawl, say hello to a whole new world of WiFi!03:17
corJust don't get yer balls too close to the screen03:18
corlol03:18
coractually, WiFi radiation is miniscule compared to loads of other forms of radiation we've evolved to withstand03:18
corstill a good gag, though03:18
ubuntulol03:19
ubuntuman03:20
corThat's the truly great thing about Linux, ant free OS. All those limits, all that stuff is software.03:20
ubuntui love ubuntu in most any flavor03:20
corthere is a list somewhere says UK = 10dB, or whatever03:20
ubuntubut running this on a 24 inch imac03:20
ubuntuis really nice03:20
corand there you have it, the source code, and a compiler. Feck them!03:20
Irvinglol @ getting balls to close to screen03:20
cor24"! that's absurb!03:21
corYum!03:21
Irvingim loving the lack of limits in linux03:21
ubuntulol03:21
Irvingyes, nice screen size bud03:21
ubuntumy job gave me this thing03:21
corNO LIMITS!03:21
ubuntuits a 24 inch core 203:21
ubuntu4 gigs of ram03:21
ubuntuits a nice box03:21
corsorree, I just felt the need to shout that!03:21
Irvingim on 20" widescreen, need to upgrade soon03:21
coroch, smaller screens, you just move em closer!03:22
corbe nice to have a real huge screen for movies, though03:22
corin fact, for everything!03:22
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MAC-Kubuntu;)03:22
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iMAC-Kubuntu;)03:22
aj_444My volume doesn't work, and yes, I've checked, its not on mute.03:22
corI'd like to compute from 12 feet!03:22
coraj_444, hidden sliders?03:23
iMAC-Kubuntuehh - who needs sound03:23
iMAC-Kubuntuso overrated03:23
aj_444cor: er.. whats that?03:23
corright-click and select "channels"03:23
aj_444iMAC-Kubuntu: I'm guessing that was sarcasm?03:23
coror in a shell, do: alsamixer03:23
iMAC-Kubuntuyes aj_444 ;)  sorry!03:24
corensure you have everything un/checked that needs to be03:24
aj_444cor: what needs to be checked?03:24
cormy sound card, for example, has a weird switch, with a weird name. but turn that thing off, and WHAM! no sound.03:24
corno idea!03:24
corright arrow right past the screen in alsamixer, there is always more sliders!03:25
corkeep going03:25
cortab to switch to recording mixer, tab again for all03:25
aj_444cor: I went to that channels list under the sound.. and it was set to master? do I need to change that?03:25
cor"M" to switch stuff on and off03:26
coraj_444, I don't understand that question03:26
corwhat program are you in? for a start03:26
aj_444I right clicked on that little sound icon03:26
Irvingill be back in a bit, if your still on cor maybe you could help me through the rest of getting my network goin03:26
aj_444on the taskbar?03:26
aj_444hit master channels03:26
cornp Irving03:26
corin the KDE kmix?03:26
aj_444yeah.03:27
corright. just enable ALL the channels03:27
corthen back in the mixer itself, play around.03:27
corif no dice, head to system settings > Multimedia03:27
aj_444Ha!  Got it working.03:27
aj_444thanks.03:27
corTADA!03:27
cor;o)03:28
sadrollahi , i can not print my desktop on kde 4.3.1 on ubuntu 9.0.4 , pllz help me03:37
coryou can print your desktop? cool!03:40
* cor tries that03:41
corHow do you do that?03:41
sadrollai press key Alt+Print Screen , Ctrl+Prin... , no open any things03:42
sadrollai open gimp an paste on into03:42
sadrollaand nothings03:43
sadrollacor: can you help me ?03:43
corHave you checked your global hotkeys?03:46
corensure the KWin gotkey for print screen is what you expect it to be03:46
cor*hotkey03:47
webbb82what is the differance between opengl and xrender03:57
corxr = software03:59
cornite dudes03:59
shavelletest03:59
webbb82cor what do u mean by xrender = software04:00
webbb82xrender is so much fAster04:08
DaemonFCit would be nice if Kubuntu used dmix by default04:09
DaemonFCI know I can't be the first person to have said that04:10
Irvingare you here stil cor?04:11
webbb82how do i get dmix04:11
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DaemonFCwebbb82, I emailed myself the link, let me fish it out04:12
DaemonFChttp://buglandia.blogspot.com/2007/08/howto-software-audio-mixing-in-ubuntu.html04:12
DaemonFCunless you go out and buy a $100 dedicated sound card with hardware mixing, Kubuntu will make you play the "What the #$%@ has a lock on ALSA!?!?" game04:13
DaemonFCdmix fixes that04:13
webbb82ok   how would it run on a netbook   thats why xrender is good for me04:17
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webbb82when ever i try to add open desktop   it will crash plasma desktop04:25
elI changed my wireless card. Now on every boot udev renames the new interface to wlan1. Since the old card is not coming back, can I force the new interface to be called wlan0 again?04:37
DaemonFCVLC keeps telling me I don't have an MPEG-4 AAC encoder04:54
nicolashello05:01
albertikoHELLOOOO05:23
shadeslayeralbertiko: hello05:23
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Vinleghelp! firefox wont open with error message "Error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser"06:17
Vinlegwhat should i do?06:17
geniiVinleg: firefox -safe-mode from konsole. This usually happens when an extension doesn't work in your upgraded firefox. The -safe-mode loads it without the addons06:19
Vinlegit wont open, it still says the same thing06:20
geniiVinleg: Did you logout or restart the computer since last set of upgrades?06:21
Vinlegumm i upgraded the firefox using the KpackageKit, but it didnt ask to restart or anything, so i didnt06:22
geniiVinleg: Try just logoff back to kdm screen and login to desktop again and try to start it after that. I'll still be here when you get back06:23
Vinlegokay06:24
* genii makes more coffee06:24
harrisonHi, I need some help getting a wacom tablet working with gimp06:25
harrisonDoes anyone know of a guide or a site which has some documentation06:26
scm422Greetings all! Anyone here help me out installing Frostwire or Limewire in Kubuntu 9.04?06:26
genii!frostwire06:26
ubottufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:26
geniiscm422: Please see the bot's link06:27
scm422the bot's link?06:27
harrison!wacom06:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom06:28
genii!frostwire| scm42206:28
ubottuscm422: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:28
scm422ok thankyou!06:28
geniiharrison: I haven't yet set one up, so not much help there, sorry.06:28
geniiscm422: You're welcome06:29
James147harrison: what version of ubuntu are you useing? i have jaunty and my wacom worked out the box for me (needed to set it up in gimp is all)06:29
Vinleghey back06:30
geniiVinleg: Welcome back :)06:30
Vinlegthanks for the help lol it's working now!06:30
James147harrison: just need to enable the device in gimp, for some reason they disable it by default06:30
Vinleg:) thanks06:30
harrisonJames147: It is working out of the box, I just don't know how to set it up in gimp. Also I would like to be able to change the settings with the wacom tools things06:30
geniiVinleg: You're welcome06:30
Vinlegbtw genii do you have msn?06:31
geniiVinleg: Yes but never use it06:31
geniiVinleg: The surest way to reach me is here06:31
Vinlegah lol, do you use any messenger?06:31
geniiVinleg: Not really06:31
James147harrison: in gimp - tools -> prefences -> imputdevices -> configure extended input devices06:31
harrisonJames147:  Ah thanks for that. I didn't see that they were disabled06:32
James147harrison: seleft the wacom from the device menu and enable it06:32
Vinlegah lol, anyway thanks again for the help, it was ridiculous, i feel like an idiot :P06:32
genii:)06:32
harrisonJames147:  Do you know if wacom tools works out of the box ? I wanted to change the active area on the tablet06:33
James147harrison: not sure06:33
rosco_yDoes anyone know of an ASP.NET Channel?06:40
geniirosco_y: Apparently theres an ##asp.net   channel here, though I've not been there06:41
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zebaztianwhen i plugin the earplugs06:59
zebaztianthere's still sound coming from the laptop speaker07:00
zebaztianhow do iget it to hush while playing onthe earplugs07:00
madberryzebaztian: mute the front speakers07:05
James147zebaztian: need to add a line similar to "options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  where MODEL is the model of your laptop listed in some alsa configs, cant remember where through :S07:05
zebaztianthere's a sound the laptop emits when i plug or unplug the ac power chord i don't want it to do so07:06
zebaztiani don't want to wake her up07:06
ubuntu_Hello?07:14
geniiWelcome. If you have some question please just ask, hopefully someone will take up the answer07:15
ubuntu_How to Install Adobe Flash Player For Konqueror 3.5.8?07:19
ubuntu_In a Live sesion07:20
genii!flash07:21
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash07:21
geniiubuntu_: Whether on livecd or embedded install it's the same07:21
James147zebaztian: For full instructions for your sound problem - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=DebuggingSoundProblems#Is%20ALSA%20using%20the%20correct%20model?07:21
ubuntu_Wow! Really thanks :D07:21
madberry!flash | ubuntu07:21
ubottuubuntu: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash07:21
madberryoops to slow07:22
* genii slides madberry a coffee07:22
genii;)07:22
madberrylol07:22
zebaztiani am having trouble getting my w595 SE phone to connect to jaunty07:27
zebaztianis there a way to load files onto it via bluetooth?07:28
James147zebaztian: kdebluetooth (should load in systry by deafult if you have a bluetooh device)07:28
zebaztianon hte phone or on the laptop?07:29
zebaztianhow do i check if ihave a device for bluetooth on the laptop07:29
James147zebaztian: laptop,07:29
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James147zebaztian: if kdebluetooth dosent load by default i would say its doubtful, not sure how to check though07:30
madberry!bluetooth | zebaztian07:30
ubottuzebaztian: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup07:30
zebaztianhardy detected my phone mass storage connection07:33
zebaztianjaunty doesnt07:33
zebaztianwhat can i do without having to reinstall07:33
ayensisI have a problem too. shiretoko crashs erverytime I try to maximize the window of  a video playing by the flashplayer.07:36
DaemonFCKDE just DRM'd Last.FM07:36
DaemonFCby enforcing their paywall with the version of Amarok released just now07:37
ayensislike youtube.com07:37
DaemonFCbeing locked out is one thing07:37
DaemonFCvoluntarily selling out your users is another07:37
ayensisanybody having the same problem?07:38
James147DaemonFC: you have a source for that statement? Would like to read it07:39
DaemonFCyes07:39
DaemonFCAmarok until today's upgrade let me connect to Last.FM07:39
DaemonFCimmediately following the "upgrade", it now asks me to pay Last.FM for a subscription07:40
DaemonFCI fail to see how it worked, then immediately after the upgrade, like 5 seconds later, it's hitting me up for money07:40
DaemonFCunless that's anything other than deliberate07:40
zebaztianto open /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules what do i do? sudo kate?07:40
DaemonFCis there a way to roll back packages in Kubuntu?07:41
James147DaemonFC: what version of amarok?07:41
geniizebaztian: kdesudo kate /etc/wherever07:41
DaemonFCJames147: 2.1.80 starts enforcing the paywall07:41
DaemonFCearlier versions will play the streams just fine07:41
darthanubisi have 2.1.1. where you get 2.1.8?07:42
ayensisyeah, but I want the latest ff version.07:42
darthanubiseveryone should have that07:43
darthanubisor add mozilla's ppa?07:43
James147DaemonFC: How did you install it? nether my karmic or jaunty install are up to 2.1.80 yet :S07:44
ayensiswhat do you mean with  "i have 2.1.1. where you get 2.1.8?" ??07:45
geniiDaemonFC , James147 ... some info on the DRM thing, seems it's on last.fm's side http://www.last.fm/group/Amarok+Users/forum/18538/_/51790307:45
DaemonFCgenii: It's not07:45
DaemonFCI jsut signed in on my other PC that hasn't been upgraded to Amarok 2.1.8007:45
ayensisshiretoko => version 3.5.307:46
DaemonFCit still plays Last.FM while 2.1.80 asks me for money07:46
James147DaemonFC: From that like I see why they have done it, looks like last.fm is changing the way they work, requiring ppl to pay :( thus the latest amarok is preparing for this change07:47
DaemonFCBanshee already has a patch which reswtores Last.FM access07:48
James147DaemonFC: my guess is older version will have problems with last.fm when they change over to the new method, which is a real shame :(07:48
DaemonFCthey already changed to API 2.0 earlier this year07:48
DaemonFCin April I think07:48
James147DaemonFC:  http://blog.last.fm/2009/03/24/lastfm-radio-announcement  - should still be free in US, UK germany according that this07:49
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zebaztianhelp, i want to open /etc/udev/rules.d with privileges on the gui from the terminal, what do i have to type?07:55
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DaemonFCJames147: I'm in the US07:55
DaemonFCit's still blocking me07:55
geniizebaztian: We went through this already.   kdesudo kate /etc/udev/filename        <-- substitute file name accordingly07:56
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zebaztiangenii,  but what i want to open this time is the folder07:56
zebaztiannot the file07:56
zebaztiani am on the gui07:57
zebaztiani need to paste some files onto that folder07:57
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zebaztianbut i don't have root privileges adn i don't know how to get them on the gui07:57
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James147DaemonFC: hmm, just upgraded looks llike i cant either (in uk), alhtough its not given me an error message yet, or asked me to pay07:58
geniizebaztian: Same principle applies. kdesudo dolphin                   or so on07:58
DaemonFChmmm, parasiteware on Linux now07:59
DaemonFCI'm used to this kind of crap tagging along in Windows Media Player07:59
James147zebaztian: kdesudo GUIPROGRAM  will open GUIPROGRAM as root useing your local user password07:59
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James147DaemonFC: I hope, really really hope, that its cos its still beta and they just havent finished it yet (corsses fingers).... pity that dosent explain why it broke in the first place (new authentication methods to sopport payment maby?)08:01
DaemonFCJames147: they got greedy08:01
DaemonFCI could have understood requiring third party clients to implement the "Buy this track" button08:02
DaemonFCwhich is apparently where Last.FM's hangup was in the first place08:02
navetzcan someone help me fix my sound in flash? its weird, it was working periodically, then it stopped. Then I upgraded my alsa drivers to try to fix it but it did not help. Does anyone know what the issue might be?08:03
DaemonFCnavetz: You didn't try installing Pulseaudio did you?08:03
James147DaemonFC: When did it ask you to subscribe? cant find that option anywhere or get it to give me one :S08:04
DaemonFCJames147: Add your station to the playlist and double click it08:06
James147DaemonFC: ahh, in status bar :S,08:06
DaemonFCisntead of starting the stream, it pops up a message in the bottom of the window08:06
DaemonFCspeaking of Amarok, fetching album art has been busted for weeks08:07
navetzDaemonFC: It was installed by default for me08:09
navetzDaemonFC: I have HAD intel and pulseaudio08:09
DaemonFCnavetz: I don't have anything polite to say about Pulseaudio08:10
navetzDaemonFC: I have HAD intel and pulseaudio, had intel always fails. Before jaunty I would always have to recompile my sound drivers to get it to work08:10
DaemonFCthe words I have to say about it would get me kickbanned from this room08:10
DaemonFCI avoid it and use dmix08:10
mostafa_can anyone give me the link how to mount partitions manually with editing the fstab?08:10
navetzDaemonFC: its the only thing thing that works for me :(08:10
navetzDaemonFC: any idea why flash might not like it?08:10
DaemonFCnavetz: dmix works better for software mixing08:11
DaemonFCunless you like redirecting audio streams to other computers and stuff you don't need Pulseaudio08:11
DaemonFCPulseaudio causes three problems for every one it fixes08:11
navetzDaemonFC: err okay, is dmix a package?08:12
DaemonFCno, it's built into ALSA08:12
DaemonFCyou just need to configure the system to use it08:13
DaemonFCit's real easy08:13
navetzin my system settings it only shows three options: HDA Intel - Pulseaudio - Esound08:13
DaemonFChttp://buglandia.blogspot.com/2007/08/howto-software-audio-mixing-in-ubuntu.html08:14
DaemonFCnavetz: Ditch Pulseaudio and just put your sound card at the top of the Phonon lists08:14
DaemonFCthen configure the system to use dmix08:14
navetzDaemonFC: hum i'm not to experienced with this. Where is the Phonon list?08:15
DaemonFCnavetz: Should be in the KDE control center under "Multimedia"08:15
DaemonFCjust highlight your sound card on every item in the "Playback" category and hit "Prefer" til it's on the top of all lists08:16
navetzDaemonFC: thats where I am and I do have HAD Intel (my card I think) at the top of all the lists08:16
navetzhow do I configure dmix?08:16
navetzis there a guide?08:16
DaemonFCthat link I posted says how to08:16
DaemonFCpaste the text it says to into your /etc/asound.conf in a text editor and save it08:17
navetzahh didn't notice that, thank you08:17
DaemonFCthen log out and in and it should be using it08:17
DaemonFCyou need to have administrator priveleges to edit that file though08:18
DaemonFCso use "sudo kate /etc/asound.conf", paste that stuff in, and hit save08:18
DaemonFCthe file should be blank08:18
geniikdesudo and not just sudo08:18
DaemonFCI always start the text editor from the terminal, and I usually use Nano08:19
DaemonFCthat's why I said sudo, hehe08:19
DaemonFCnavetz: I'd suggest removing pulseaudio packages one at a time to make sure it doesn't rip out anything important along with it08:19
DaemonFCnothing like accidentally removing half your system while trying to get rid of one annoying item08:20
DaemonFCthere's a couple Pulseaudio packages that some important parts of the KDE desktop depend on iirc08:20
DaemonFCsave for future reference though that if something wants to bring in Pulseaudio, that's your cue to run away08:21
DaemonFCPulseaudio tries to do "everything" a sound server can and gets it all jsut a little wrong08:22
DaemonFCif all you need is sound mixing, you're best off getting a card that can do it in hardware, and failing that, using dmix08:22
DaemonFCI wouldn't go out and spend $100 just for hardware mixing08:22
anfi_moep08:24
DaemonFCthere's better upgrades you can get with that $100, like a nicer video card or more RAM08:24
navetzDaemonFC: I have a laptop so i'm not sure if a sound upgrade will be the best option for me08:24
navetzDaemonFC: this guide says to restart. Does that mean the sound server (and if so how) or the whole computer08:25
DaemonFCnavetz: logging out and in would probably do it08:25
DaemonFCrestarting the computer definitely will08:26
navetzDaemonFC: alright thanks, i'm gonna give it a try08:26
navetzhumm okay08:36
navetzflash is working, but its the first thing i opened08:36
Gamarok__bonjour08:36
James147DaemonFC: Trying to find out why last.fm stoped working for 2.1.80 in #amarok08:36
navetzand now amarok and other sound does not work08:36
James147DaemonFC: not much luck yet :(08:38
DaemonFCJames147: I wasn't thrilled about that08:38
DaemonFCthe Last.FM people could have been much more reaonable08:38
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navetzDaemonFC: it seems I can still only run one sound application at a time :908:39
navetz:(08:39
DaemonFChmmm08:39
mostafa_I wanna write the command that copy the current address to other place what should I do?08:40
navetzmostafa_: pwd > somefile08:41
navetzthat will write your address to a file called somefile08:42
mostafa_navetz: can you give me an example dude?08:42
navetzmostafa_: err I think I just did: the command pwd will give you the path to whatever folder you're in08:43
navetz> will take the output and put it somewhere08:43
navetz> somefile will take the result from pwd and put it in a new file called somefile08:43
James147DaemonFC: had one person hint that is because amarok wont display last.fm's ads :S08:45
mostafa_navetz: just a simple one for not wasting your time08:46
navetzmostafa_: umm okay do this08:46
navetzopen a terminal08:47
navetz(konsol_08:47
navetzkonsol **08:47
mostafa_ok08:47
navetztype cd ~08:47
mostafa_ok08:47
navetzthen type pwd08:47
navetzsorry08:47
FloodBotK1navetz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:47
navetzecho pwd08:47
mostafa_ok08:47
navetzdo you see your path?08:47
mostafa_yeah08:48
navetzget rid of echo I dunno what i was thinking. Now type: pwd >> FILE08:48
mostafa_for example my file name is test08:48
navetzokay so do pwd >> test08:49
mostafa_in this address /media/volume/test08:49
mostafa_then i should go to that address and type this08:49
mostafa_?08:49
navetzokay,  pwd >> /media/volume/test08:49
navetzyou could also go to that address, whatever you like08:49
mostafa_ok08:49
mostafa_navetz: let me check08:50
shreyis it necessage to install source code when we r installing from a PPA.08:50
navetzmostafa_: okay08:50
mostafa_navetz: I check it08:53
navetzmostafa_: good?08:53
mostafa_navetz: nothing happens when I type that command08:53
mostafa_navetz: I go to the address and type pwd>>test08:53
mostafa_but nothing happend08:54
navetzmostafa_: did you look in the file called test?08:54
mostafa_navetz: no you mean it copies sth in that file?08:55
navetzwhat is sth?08:55
mostafa_navetz: sth=something yeah it copies the address08:55
mostafa_;)08:55
mostafa_ok then how to copy?08:56
navetzcopy what?08:56
mostafa_navetz: I mean for example I want "test" file in this address /media/voume2/copy08:57
mostafa_navetz: and all of this procedure should be done by command08:58
navetzmostafa_: cp /media/volume/test /media/volume2/copy08:58
mostafa_navetz: excuse me dude but I want to do this with a script then how could I know the address of "test"?08:59
mostafa_navetz: let me told you the situation09:00
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mostafa_navetz: I have a file in a folder then I want to write a script that copies that file to a defined folder09:01
mostafa_navetz: but the folder that contain the script and the file may be copied to somewhere else and so I lost the address of "test" file09:02
mostafa_navetz: is it clear?09:03
James147mostafa_: why do you need the address? why not just use cp?09:04
mostafa_James147: if I use cp I need the source and the dest address09:05
mostafa_James147: the desti address is good and having no problem with that09:06
mostafa_James147: but the source is a little hard to define because if you copy the folder to somewhere else how could I know the address and put that address into the cp command?09:07
James147mostafa_: cp ./FILE /path/to/dest    ./ means current directory09:07
James147mostafa_: so wherever you are currently located the file FILE will be moved to the dest09:08
mostafa_James147: really? thank you very much09:08
mostafa_;)09:08
mostafa_James147: just let me check09:08
James147mostafa_: ~/ is also useful, it means the current users home directory (ie for me ~/ is like /home/james/09:09
mostafa_James147: thanx I know this and I also use the ./ for my programs but I don't know what the real meaning of ./ is :D I think ./ means executable application09:10
mostafa_:D09:10
mostafa_James147: very nice thank you ;)09:12
James147mostafa_: no, it can be used anywhere to mean current directory, most the time it is ignored for files since if the path of the file dosent start with / it is takeen to mean a relitive path09:12
mostafa_navetz: thank you too for your good response09:12
James147mostafa_: also ../ means parent directory09:12
mostafa_James147: can you give me an example for parent dir?09:14
James147mostafa_: if i am in say, /home/james/documents   and i do cd ../  (cd is change directory) i would end up in /home/james09:14
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mostafa_James147: if you type "cd .." it does the work09:15
James147mostafa_: if i did cd ../../ from /home/james/documents  i would end up in /home09:15
James147mostafa_: but the / is needed if you want to access a file or folder09:16
James147mostafa_: ie from /home/james/documents  i can do cd ../music  and end up in /home/james/music09:16
mostafa_James147: very good really thank you for the second and third usage you just told me09:17
James147mostafa_: the difference between . and ./ is the same difference beween writing /home and /home/09:17
James147mostafa_: . and .. are treated like existing directory as far as i know (things like ls -a will list . and ..) and so can be used like directorys09:18
mostafa_James147: yeah you're right09:19
mostafa_James147: how could I type "space" in the command line09:22
mostafa_?09:22
James147mostafa_: you mean in paths?09:22
mostafa_James147: yeah, my folder name is for example "test test"?09:23
James147mostafa_: you can escape spaces with \ (backslash)  ie cd ~/Folder\ with\ spaces09:24
mostafa_James147: thanks ;)09:24
James147mostafa_:  or include the path in quotes ie cd "~/Folder with spaces"09:24
mostafa_James147: cool09:25
mostafa_James147: I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?09:33
anfi_Wer weiss wie man Online demonstriert?09:49
anfi_fck09:50
James147mostafa_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269632/  -< simple script asking the user a yes no question09:50
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anfi_thanky bot!09:51
mostafa_James147: very nice of you man you are so generous I appreciate you be lucky in your life :-*09:54
mostafa_James147: how could I make 2 folders in a specified address for example ~/Document?10:03
shreyhey when i press ctrl+alt+f1 i m in konsole mode. But how to come back to KDE mode ?10:04
James147mostafa_: A better version of the above script: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269644/10:04
James147mostafa_: mkdir DIR  makes a directory called DIR10:05
navetzdoes anyone here know how to get my audio in jaunty working with multiple applications?10:05
navetzwhen I run amarok i can't use flash10:05
navetzwhen i use flash10:05
navetzi cant use amarok or any other system sounds10:06
James147mostafa_: eg mkdir ~/Documents/NewFolder10:06
mostafa_James147: you are right but I want to make two DIR10:06
James147shrey: alt + ctrl + F710:06
shreyKarmic is Gnome or KDE ? i m using Kubuntu KDE so should i switch to Karmic, if yes than why?10:06
James147mostafa_: then run mkdir twice10:07
shreyJames147: Thanks.10:07
mostafa_James147: no way to run it once10:08
James147mostafa_: not that i am aware of, is there any reason you cannot run it twice?10:08
James147shrey: Dont switch to karmic unless you want to test/ debug/ develop under it or just want to run the lasest (and buggy/crash prone software)10:09
mostafa_James147: no as a matter of fact I cd to the directory and type this command10:09
mostafa_James147: "mkdir test1 test2 test3" and it does me the work10:09
shreyJames147: thanks...than i think i m gud with Kubuntu.10:10
James147shrey:  and karmic has both KDE4.3.1 and Gnome (like all version of ubuntu/kubuntu) kubuntu comes with kde by default and ubuntu comes with gnome by default10:10
mostafa_James147: but I want to do this work just by one command line10:10
mostafa_James147: and of course thanks for your updated version10:10
mostafa_;)10:11
MadAGugoodmorning guys i have a question: i can't click youtube buttons when i have kde+compiz activated... anyone knows anything?10:11
James147mostafa_:  you are right, mkdir test1 test2 test3   dose work10:11
mostafa_James147: np ;) ok  now is there any way to make these DIRs just by one command in the specified address?10:12
James147mostafa_: mkdir test1 test2 test3      <- either prefix them with the path or do cd path beforehand (or run it form the working directory)10:14
mostafa_James147: thnx I think cd is the best way10:15
mostafa_:D10:15
mostafa_James147: in your updated version if the user answer yes "y" then I want to restart  ie. "sudo shutdown -r now"10:19
mostafa_James147: then just add this command10:19
mostafa_between the echo and break?10:19
mostafa_James147: am I right?10:19
James147mostafa_: yes10:20
mostafa_James147: thnx10:20
James147mostafa_: you may want to replace break with exit 0  (exits th script) if there is nothing else to be done10:21
James147mostafa_: and remember you can change the echo commands to represnt what is actually happening or remove them10:21
mostafa_James147: yeah really thank you10:22
James147mostafa_:  no problem10:22
mostafa_James147: when I type this command "sudo cat test>>/etc/fstab"it syas permission denied what is my problem?10:30
david_hi there. i have courier installed and was wondering what (if anything) else id need to get "push email" working?10:32
david_or is imapd enough?10:32
James147mostafa_: cant append to /etc/fstab  not sure why have to edit it useing and editor like nano vim or kate10:32
mostafa_James147: how could I change that via script?10:33
James147mostafa_: may i ask... what is this script ment to be doing?10:34
mostafa_James147: this is the real script10:34
mostafa_http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269661/10:35
mostafa_James147: now you know what I am doing?10:35
mostafa_:D10:35
James147mostafa_: trying to mount a partition?10:36
mostafa_yeah10:36
James147mostafa_: is it a fixed partition?10:36
mostafa_James147: as a matter of fact my NTFS partitions does not work in Karmic and I must mount them manually10:37
James147mostafa_: why dont you just add the line to /etc/fstab?10:37
James147mostafa_: there is no need for a script to edit /etc/fstab every time you want to mount10:38
mostafa_James147: np but I want to do this concatination by command10:38
mostafa_James147: yeah you are right but I need the script to do not to do it manually10:39
James147mostafa_: all you really need to do is edit /etc/fstab once and add the drive you want to mount to it, create the directorys to mount to once10:39
James147mostafa_: you can add the option noauto  to drives in /etc/fstab to stop them being mounted at boot and by sudo mount -a10:40
James147mostafa_: then you just have to type sudo mount /media/Windows   or sudo mount /dev/sdXX (where /dev/sdXX is the drive) and you can combine noauto with user to allow users to mount and unmount the drive10:41
mostafa_James147: very nice thanks.10:41
mostafa_James147: it means that there is no way to change /etc/fstab via command?10:42
James147mostafa_: sudo nano /etc/fstab  open the nano editor (a command line text editor)10:44
James147mostafa_: but kdesudo kate /etc/fstab  is easier to use10:44
mostafa_James147: yeah I used kate10:45
mostafa_James147: but I want to attach a text file that lists our partitions to /etc/fstab10:45
James147mostafa_: copy and paste? (you can copy and paste in konsole with ctrl+shift+c/v)10:46
mostafa_James147: yeah I know but I don't want to do anything because I must do it in a way that no one can watch my doings10:47
mostafa_this is my file to concat to /etc/fstab http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269667/10:48
mostafa_James147: I have to do it in such way10:49
smog88#thegossip10:49
James147mostafa_: makes no sence to me :S dont seen the need to hide that data and i know of no way to do it with /etc/fstab10:49
James147mostafa_: but you can create a script to just mount them when you want to10:50
James147mostafa_: rather then editing /etc/fstab just use the mount sommand10:50
mostafa_James147: thanks dude you are so patient to bear my questions you are a good man10:51
James147mostafa_: no problem10:51
mostafa_James147: but anyhow you don't answer my private question :D10:51
James147mostafa_: there was a private question?10:52
mostafa_what is your IRC software?10:53
James147mostafa_: quassel10:53
mostafa_James147: :-o Me 2. then how don't you get my private messages?10:54
James147mostafa_: dont know10:56
mostafa_James147: from the nicks column in Quassel pick my nick out and double click on it then type sth for me10:56
James147mostafa_: isent there :S10:56
apparleI got a message something like 'compositing was too low and has been suspended' now all the desktop effects off....how to turn them on11:09
madberryalt+shift+f1211:09
apparlemadberry: but its not working....nothing happens11:10
madberryyour screen desn't go black?11:10
apparlemadberry: nothing happens11:10
madberrytry a reboot11:11
apparlemadberry: I know reboor works but isn't there any direct way11:11
madberryalt+shift+f12 is the only way to do it from the desktop.11:12
madberry!compiz | apparle11:12
ubottuapparle: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz11:12
madberrythere you will find the answer11:13
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madberryback to cloak mode11:13
James147apparle: i think there is a button in system settings under display where you can toggle it on11:13
James147apparle: sorry, desktop11:14
darkwizardHi11:14
apparleJames147: you mean the 'enable desktop effects'11:14
James147apparle: in kde4.3 where is suspend compositing button (and resume if suspended)11:15
darkwizard11:15
darkwizardhow to disable kubuntu kwin?11:15
James147apparle: not sure about eairler version11:15
darkwizard11:15
darkwizardhow to disable kubuntu kwin?11:15
FloodBotK1darkwizard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.11:15
apparleJames147: ok11:15
apparledarkwizard: goto System settings>Desktop>and remove enable desktop effects tick mark11:16
apparlehow to solve this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269684/11:16
apparlemadberry: found nothing on the lik11:23
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Peace-guys for automatic audio preview11:56
Peace-what should i modify ?11:56
Peace-on the file manager i mean11:56
gintulislaba diena12:50
ianharperhi were is the pakage manager in kubuntu13:01
DragnslcrIt's called KPackageKit13:01
ianharpercool thanks13:02
ianharperdo i download things that say install for ubuntu13:03
DragnslcrShould be in the System menu as Software Management13:03
DragnslcrYes, you can install Gnome programs13:03
ianharpercool13:05
DaemonFCyou *can* install GNOME applications, but it's sloppy sometimes and brings in a whole bunch of GNOME packages13:09
DaemonFCFirefox brings in all kinds of weird stuff13:10
frustphilhi, is there a koffice 2.1 ppa package for karmic?13:20
martijn81how do i get my computer icons on my desktop under kde4?13:35
martijn81nobody?13:46
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nasrullahhi14:31
nasrullah i have downloaded google earth 5 but not able to install it .....i get error md5 checksums..your help pls14:34
maximouseHello - I am trying to use kmobile tools to connect to a blackberry - the documentation didnt install (sure I did something wrong here) but when I went online I couldn't find what I was looking for either - can someone point me in the right direction please14:36
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nasrullahhoaw to install google earth 514:43
zebaztianhey, when i plug or unplug the ac from and to my laptop there's a notice and it has a sound, i wish it not to emit that sound, how can i best alter this?15:27
da#autism15:30
ikoniada: ?15:30
peterrhi15:38
geniiWelcome15:38
peterrcan't find an answer to my question on the web15:38
peterrso tought I'd try here15:38
genii!ask15:39
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:39
peterrok15:39
peterrsorry15:39
peterrhow do I find out what wifi card (wifi adapter) i have in my laptop?15:40
geniipeterr: Usually the details will be in the result of the command: lspci       or: lsusb     (depending on the type of card)15:41
geniipeterr: (these are commands you type inside Konsole )15:45
peterrgenii: thanks. I have tried your suggestions, but the information is not clear for me. What I want to know is whether it is 802.11b/g WLAN or (doubtful) 802.11n15:45
peterr I want to know is whether it is 802.11b/g WLAN or (doubtful) 802.11n15:45
geniipeterr: You can also get much more extensive info from the result of:  sudo lshw -C network15:46
peterrgenii: ok15:46
shadeslayerpeterr: what card?15:48
ikoniapeterr: only a few intel cards have n compatability and it's weak support to be honest15:50
dadoes anyone here, know me?15:51
peterrshadeslayer: genii: thank you. solved15:53
peterrikonia: thanks15:54
ikoniada: what do you want ?15:54
shadeslayerhes gone15:56
geronimo_Hello everybody, I need some wlan help15:56
geronimo_Got an asus  pro 79io, don't know what card there is in it15:57
peterrjust ask, don't ask to ask - that's what i have been told15:57
shadeslayergeronimo_: see the o/p of lspci15:57
shadeslayergeronimo_: for the card no. that is15:58
geronimo_04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless NetworkAdapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)15:58
geronimo_hm, atheros15:58
geronimo_I tried to load the ath_pci module through modprobe, but I guess that didn't help15:58
shadeslayerlets see...15:58
shadeslayer!atheros15:58
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:58
shadeslayergeronimo_: ^^15:59
peterrmy card is gb enabled, and i want to bye an N router. it will work on g protocol, i know. the price is similar. should i decide to bye a g router anyway?16:01
geronimo_shadeslayer: thanks, does this ndiswrapper stuff still work? Like using the windows inf files?16:01
shadeslayergeronimo_: if its in the wiki,probably16:02
geronimo_the specific chip is not in the wiki16:02
geniipeterr: If you can get an N router for comparable cost then later you can always find some N card which might work with it also, is my take16:02
shadeslayeroh..16:02
shadeslayergeronimo_: whats the problem you are facing?16:03
geronimo_the device does not appear16:03
peterrgenii: ok. My problem is whether there are some obvious problems i may encounter with an N router and so should simply choose a G one16:03
shadeslayergeronimo_: ok,thats easy : sudo ifconfig wlan0 down16:04
peterrperhaps N will make my life harder, or will it not?16:04
shadeslayergeronimo_: then run the same command with down replaced by up (assuming wlan0 is the wifi card)16:05
geniipeterr: I'm using a Draft N DLink here and it just uses whichever protocol it finds your card can use (b,g, whatever)16:05
geronimo_shadeslayer: no device called wlan016:05
geronimo_shadeslayer: only eth0, ung and lo16:05
shadeslayergeronimo_: see the o/p of ifconfig for the card name16:05
peterrgenii: ok. I am thinking  about  Linksys16:05
shadeslayerwhat could ung be16:05
geronimo_ifconfig -a shows a pan0 interface16:05
shadeslayerthats probably bluetooth16:06
geronimo_I don't think so, I've got a dongle shipped with it, like usb-dongle16:06
geniipeterr: Linksys/Cisco makes pretty good stuff, I'd feel comfortable getting an N version16:07
shadeslayeroh... try all the devices in ifconfig and see if any of them works16:07
peterrgenii: thank you16:07
geniipeterr: You're welcome16:07
peterrbye everyone16:07
shadeslayerbye16:08
peterrhave a nice one16:08
geronimo_shadeslayer: I can put it "up" the pan0 one16:08
geronimo_shadeslayer: but the iwconfig tells me that pan0 has no wireless extensions16:09
geniipan0 is usually an ad-hoc type network connection it makes with bluetooth16:10
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geronimo_the wireless led doesn't work either16:12
geronimo_but I guess it's part of the driver problem16:12
robin0800​try lspci to find the card16:13
Zoinhodeboacomo faço para procurar novos canais16:13
shadeslayerrobin0800: we already have the card,its an atheros16:13
geronimo_robin0800: I found the card, but there is not much information on the net16:13
geronimo_robin0800: it' a 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)16:16
robin0800geronimo_: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=linux+atheros&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a16:16
geronimo_just found a thread in the ubuntu forum16:17
geniigeronimo_: The vendor:device code returned from using   lspci -nn      can also be useful for googling16:18
geronimo_sorry everybody ksnapshot repeatedly opened itself 100 times, had to kill kdm16:24
ahmoshi , i wanna remove dragon player but it asks me to remove kubuntu desktop too for dependencies , so how to safely remove it16:29
phhahmos: no way16:30
ahmosoh16:31
ahmosbizzare16:31
phhahmos: it's stupid to remove dragon player anyway for safe utilisation16:31
ahmosit don't work correctly so i wanted to reinstall it16:32
phhreinstall is almost never a solution ...16:33
phhahmos: what's your troubles ?16:34
ahmosi get this from terminal while trying to play a video QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver16:34
martijn81how do i get webkit in konqueror running?16:35
phhahmos: doesn't really seems to be an error16:35
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phhmartijn81: you just can't16:35
ahmosso what to do16:35
martijn81phh: what is this package webkitkde then for?16:36
phhahmos: it just won't start ?16:36
phhmartijn81: juste a Q&D hack16:36
phh-e16:36
ahmosit starts but whith a transparent window16:36
phhand for proper applications using kparts16:36
martijn81which means?16:36
phhmartijn81: many features won't work16:37
martijn81phh: they are not that far yet?16:37
phhif you really want webkit in konqueror, go in the display menu -> display type -> webkit16:37
Guest6866Hello! Some minutes ago I bought 2GB of ram but Kubuntu only shows 1,7 GB (command free and system monitor). The BIOS however shows 2048 GB. Is there an error or is it OK?16:38
cuzntlibcurl.x86_64 <~~ how do i get that?16:38
cuzntplease16:38
phhGuest6866: on 32bits ?16:38
Guest6866phh: yes16:38
ahmosGuest6866 i thinkit's okay16:38
ahmosso any  solution phh16:40
phhahmos: transparent windows can be set with left mouse button on the titlebar => opacity ...16:40
Guest6866ahmos: it's strange because on another mashine Kubuntu shows the correct ammount of RAM: 102416:40
James147cuznt: My guess would be sudo aptitude install libcurl316:40
cuzntnope16:41
phhGuest6866: big memory in 32bits is big troubles to manage for the kernel16:41
cuzntE: Invalid operation libcurl.x86_6416:41
James147cuznt: when running what?16:41
Guest6866phh: 2GB? I thought the limit for x86 mashines was 4GB.16:42
phhGuest6866: the total amount of managed memory is 4GB yup, but there is stuff like virtual memory16:42
phhpci card mapping16:42
phhkernel memory space16:42
phhand so on16:42
FloodBotK1phh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:42
Guest6866phh: I know. I'm speaking of the physical memory, the 2GB RAM-brick I've bought just some minutes ago.16:43
phhGuest6866: the 4GB limit is for the total memory, not the physical one, that's why such trouble may happen16:43
cuzntkonsole16:43
cuzntor synaptic package16:44
phhmartijn81: just tried webkit in konqueror, i don't even get javascript working...16:44
Guest6866phh: does the swap-partition also count as virtual memory?16:45
phhmartijn81: if you want some webkit based browser, you can try rekonq (but you'll need to build it by yourself), it tries to integrate with KDE16:45
phhGuest6866: no16:45
Guest6866phh: Then it's strange. Even the memtest does show only 1790MB.16:46
phhGuest6866: shared memory with graphic card ?16:47
ahmosi think so too it is a shared memory16:47
Guest6866phh: Could be. It's a netbook.16:47
Guest6866phh: I'll check it. Just a minute please.16:48
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Guest6866phh: Thanks a lot. It's the shared memory. I didn't know that it is reserved right from the beginning. I've allways thought it would be reserved dynamically.16:55
ahmosand if your bios support it you can change the amount of ram to be reserved16:56
snowrichardhi16:59
cuznti am trying to install Adobe-flash 64 bit and am having difficulties17:08
shadeslayercuznt: install kubuntu-restricted-extras17:09
BluesKajhowdy17:14
gintulishow to enable ctrl+alt+backspace in kubuntu?17:22
robin0800gintulis: dontzap = false17:32
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martijn81thanks phh17:54
martijn81seeyou17:54
ownerHello.17:55
rosco_yWhat commands can I use to change my prompt?17:56
rosco_ysometimes my paths get really long, and I'd like to shorten it to something like '>'17:56
rosco_yThink I might have found it in google: I'm too lazy to search first--sorry17:57
zaccouris there something like gnome-do for kde?17:59
Tallkenzaccour: no, but ALT+F2 aims to work like the basic functionality of Gnome-Do18:00
alterooYes18:00
rosco_yzaccour: what does gnome-do do?18:00
alterooit's a launcher18:00
Tallkenrosco_y: it's ALT+F2 on steroids18:00
zaccourrosco_y, its similar to the Macintosh Spotlight search18:00
rosco_y:) cool18:00
rosco_yzaccour: you might like this: http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/KDE_Users18:02
zaccouri'm use to gnome, new to kde18:02
rosco_yzaccour: at first I was a little lost when I switched, but I like kde now, it works very well for me18:02
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alterooHi zaccour Welcome to KDE18:03
rosco_yy, don't give up too early18:03
apparle I get this when I run sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/18:03
zaccourit seems more elegant18:03
ownerI'm currently facing problems with sounds, not exactly sure why. I can't hear flash videos at all..18:03
zaccourthanks18:03
rosco_yby peoples...I hear some w*rk calling me....18:04
rosco_ybye, even18:04
alterooowner: 64 Bit flash?18:05
ownerYes, 64 bit flash.18:06
alterooYeah that has some known issues with Sound. can you check the ubuntuforums to see if they have a solution for you18:07
ownerHm.. I did manage to find a method of installing Flash, so I can see the videos. Its just the sound. But I'll check the forum.18:08
Gintulishow to load HD partition on desktop, that i can access  adn seen  them always on boot18:11
apparlecan anyone help plzzzzzzzzzzzz... I want to install some softwares from main and universe repos18:14
alterooGintulis: What?18:15
alterooapparle: and?18:15
apparleI get this when I run sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/18:16
apparlealteroo: can you help18:18
BluesKajapparle:  pastebin your sources.list18:35
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apparleonly one line "deb http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu/ jaunty main universe restricted multiverse"18:39
apparleBluesKaj: ?18:41
apparleI am unable to understand why I am getting 404....doesn't it mean the file doesnt exist on server??18:43
Mamarokapparle: I don't think the line is correct, usually it should read deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty etc.18:46
Mamarokno idea why you are looking for it on a kernel server18:46
Mamarokapparle: also, you should have more lines than that18:47
Mamarokubuntu-updates, ubuntu-security should be there too, at least18:47
spacelimehello!18:48
spacelimeAfter last update I can no longer log into the desktop... it hangs on the kde splash screen18:48
spacelimeis there a way to log in in verbose mode to see what is going on?18:49
apparleBluesKaj: iceroot: I can download the files Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz manually from site18:50
apparleBluesKaj: Can you help18:50
James147spacelime: you could try renaming ~/.kde  i have found problem in there can sometimes stop you logging on18:51
spacelimeJames: ok! i will try that.... do you know if there is a way to log in in verbose mode as well?18:52
James147spacelime: sorry, dont know how to do that18:52
spacelimeok, thanks!18:52
jarkkoapparle: you need to get the default sources.list, all ubuntu repos have been replaced with the kernel archive18:52
apparlejarkko: I know... I myself replaced them.........I was getting the same error with archive.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com, in.archive.ubuntu.com18:53
apparleI choose a random server from the list18:53
enzihi, where can i find the equalizer in Amarok2?18:54
James147enzi: There isent one yet18:54
James147enzi: I think they are waiting for phonon to support it before they implment it18:54
enziok, thx18:54
apparleWhy am I getting the 404 error for archive.ubuntu.com18:56
James147enzi: amarok 2.1.80 have the equilizer in the settings menu, but tis greyed out, look like they may be working on it (or at least plan to)18:56
enziahh, cool, thx...18:57
jarkkoapparle: well, you need to put the original back, run 'aptitude update' and show us sources.list and the error18:59
BluntedBoyWonderhello fellow kubuntu-ists19:02
apparlejarkko: pastebin the orignal file19:02
apparlejarkko: is there any diffrence between apt-get and aptitude update19:03
alterooHi BluntedBoyWonder19:03
alterooapparle: no19:03
BluntedBoyWonderI am trying to get my external usb harddrives to automount, ntfs. Known issue?19:03
BluntedBoyWonderI am on jaunty 9.0419:04
alterooBluntedBoyWonder: You dropped it into fstab?19:04
BluesKajapparle: aptitude is reputed to do a better job resolving dependencies than apt19:04
BluntedBoyWonderdont know the parameters19:04
BluntedBoyWonderhow should I go about that?19:05
apparleSo if I am using command line form package management tool should I use apt-get aptitude19:05
BluntedBoyWonder(beginner here)19:05
jarkkoapparle: I'm running karmic, but I pastebin my list and replaced the release: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269911/19:06
apparlejarkko: I am updating ......... I'll pastebin the error19:06
apparlejarkko: and are deb-src lines required.... I don't need any sources19:06
jarkkoapparle: not required19:07
alterooBluesKaj: for update?19:07
BluesKajyes19:07
jarkkoapparle: apt-get and aptitude are both fine, aptitude is just nicer :)19:07
BluesKaj!aptitude19:07
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. Like other APT front-ends, it can install/remove packages and their dependencies (on Dapper and earlier, however, only aptitude keeps track of unused dependencies). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide19:07
BluntedBoyWonderalteroo: how do I "drop" something into fstab?19:08
alteroo!fstab19:08
ubottuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions19:08
apparleis this sources.list fine http://paste.ubuntu.com/269913/19:09
BluesKajnot much there as a sources.list apparle19:10
apparle??19:10
ownerI've got sound working with the audio player Amarok, downloaded audiopulse and followed the instruction so that it starts in start-up, and yet, I still can't hear anything when watching videos on youtube or if playing snesx9..19:11
apparleBluesKaj: what do you mean.19:11
ownerI can't listen to anything in Flash19:12
BluesKajapparle:  open kpackage kit and edit the sources , check off all the boxes in other sources as well as the default19:12
ownerYet, I can listen to any audio player19:12
alteroomight be pulseaudio19:13
apparlewhat does the 'Ign' mean in the output of apt-get/aptitude update19:14
BluesKajignoring19:14
ownerWhat could I use instead of Pulseaudio19:15
ownerBtw, I can't even listen to my emulator either.19:15
alterooYou may not have pulseaudio installed19:15
BluesKajapparle, let me rephrase that : checkmark all the boxes in other sources as well as the default19:15
ownerI think I do. I can click on the pulseaudio applet..19:16
ownerPerhaps if I switch to Gnome, the sound can work?19:17
BluntedBoyWonderalteroo: wtf it worked19:17
BluntedBoyWonderthanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction19:18
BluntedBoyWonderI do hope that in the future, this will be done automatically19:18
alterooBluntedBoyWonder: If it is in fstab and the drive is there then it will19:18
alterooif you remove the drive and put it on after boot then run sudo mount -a19:19
alterooOr you know :-) Just click on the Device explorer that pops up :_19:19
alteroo:)19:19
apparleBluesKaj: if you mean enable everything in third party software....then there is none in there...and as you can see from the sources.list main,universe,multiverse,restriceted all are selected19:20
BluntedBoyWonderthanks, I wanted to get rid of the pain of manually mounting19:20
apparlethis is the new pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/269917/19:20
apparleI dont understand why am I getting 'Ign' before jaunty/update Packages19:23
alterooapparle: It means it's ignoring it19:24
alteroothat means that since the last time you checked the server nothing new has been uploaded so it's skipping it19:25
apparlebut why is it first ignoring it and then generating error related to it19:25
alterooWhich error/19:25
apparlealteroo: see the pastebin19:26
alteroowhich?19:26
alterooI was disconnected shortly after you joined19:26
alteroothe last one?19:26
apparlealso I have just used the command 'sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists' then 'sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial' and then 'sudo apt-get update'.... I have cleaned the lists so it should be downloaded again19:27
apparlealteroo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269917/19:28
alterooapparle: You mean the GPG error?19:28
apparlealteroo: no.....19:28
apparlealteroo: the 404 error19:29
alterooThat's universe19:29
apparlealteroo: thats what I am saying why is it ignoring universe19:29
apparlesorry....for typing wrong earlier....I dont understand why am I getting 'Ign' before jaunty/universe Packages19:30
alterooapparle: try switching to a new country to see if it's just the server19:31
BluntedBoyWonderhow can I know/see if a drive is sda / sdb, etc?19:32
alterooBluntedBoyWonder: What do you mean?19:33
BluntedBoyWonderi am trying to automount a different ext drive than before and it doesnt work19:33
James147BluntedBoyWonder: running "mount" will show you info on all mounted drived including location and /dev/sdXX number19:34
alterooBluntedBoyWonder: use UUID19:34
apparlealteroo: tried archive.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com19:34
alteroo!UUID | BluntedBoyWonder19:34
ubottuBluntedBoyWonder: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)19:34
posto2a simple question to a simples anser please: howto make a ubunbtu machine a dhcp server with static IP ?19:35
slow-motionhi19:35
BluntedBoyWonderthose helped altero and James147.19:35
BluntedBoyWonderI figured it out now, thanks19:36
apparlethis is the set of my commands I executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/269927/ and here is my sources.list Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/269929/19:36
alterooposto2: set your IP to static then install dhcp-server19:36
Dragnslcr!info dhcp3-server | posto219:37
ubottuposto2: dhcp3-server (source: dhcp3): DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.1-5ubuntu8.1 (jaunty), package size 363 kB, installed size 864 kB19:37
ahsanhi19:41
ahsancan anyone please help me19:41
ahsani want to add registry information to wine19:41
ahsanmean on windows i just double clik the .reg file n the information automatically got added to registry19:42
apparleahsan: goto browse  c drive in menu and then into windows folder and start regedit.exe and then open the file19:42
ahsanthnx19:43
ahsan:)19:43
apparleahsan: no problem19:43
apparlethis is the set of my commands I executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/269927/ and here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/269929/ Plz help  I tried archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com also19:44
ahsanapparently silly question but since i m damm new to linux how i can use prelinking to speed up kubuntu19:47
ahsani tried to execute commands written on kubuntu wiki19:47
ahsanbut the console states acces denied19:47
[mad]Berryapparle: if you serve to the archive url you find "Archive-Update-in-Progress-leningradskaya.canonical.com" which explains why it's down right now19:48
[mad]Berryserve=surf19:48
alterooahsan: what did you try and run ?19:48
ahsanthe command written dere on kubuntu wiki19:48
alterooahsan: There are a lot of them can you be more specific?19:49
apparle[mad]Berry: what URL did you see?19:49
[mad]Berryboth your in.archive.ubuntu.com as well as us.archive.ubuntu.com19:50
ahsansudo cp /etc/default/prelink    this one19:50
alterooahsan: where did you copy it to ?19:50
ahsanon terminal console19:51
ahsanfirt i wrote su19:51
alterooahsan: That's not a complete command19:51
ahsanden my password19:51
alterooyou are copying /etc/default/prelink where aer you copying it to ?19:51
ahsanthen which one is complete19:51
alteroosudo cp /etc/default/prelink where/the/prelink/goes19:52
apparle[mad]Berry: but I can't see anything like that......can you tell me the exact URL you are seeing19:52
[mad]Berryapparle: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/19:53
chemichello. please help to config iptables: i have 2 ethernet i-face  and one ppp019:54
[mad]Berry!iptables | chemic19:54
ubottuchemic: Ubuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist19:54
chemicwho wont19:54
chemicok19:54
ahsannow its saying command nt found19:55
ahsani wrote dis       sudo cp /etc/default/prelink where/the/prelink/goes19:55
alterooahsan: haha :)19:55
chemicFirestarter wery poore19:55
alterooahsan: where/the/prelink/goes is not literal19:55
alterooWHich page are you reading?19:55
ahsanmens?19:56
apparle!pastebin19:56
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic19:56
[mad]Berrychemic: Firestarter has always worked for me when needing GUI19:56
ahsanmeans?19:56
alterooahsan: You are reading a wiki page?19:56
ahsanno not at the time19:56
alterooahsan: OK can you find it and paste the link here19:57
ahsany not19:57
ahsangimme 1 min19:57
ahsanhttp://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink19:57
apparle[mad]Berry: I don't see what you are saying http://imagebin.org/6361319:58
alterooahsan: sudo cp /etc/default/prelink /etc/default/prelink.`date +%y%m%d-%H%M%S`19:59
alteroowhat does that command return20:00
alteroothe ` ` is important20:00
James147make sure its ` ` and not ' '20:01
alteroo Iwonder if dash supports $()20:01
ahsanagain command not gound :(20:03
apparle[mad]Berry: I don't see any message that update is going on http://imagebin.org/6361320:03
ahsan*found20:03
ahsanno command found found20:04
alterooahsan: paste what you had typed here20:05
alterooahsan: presss up to get abck the command20:05
[mad]Berryapparle: file disappeared here as well20:05
alterooYou can just highlight it with the mouse and then use the midle mouse button to paste20:05
[mad]Berryapparle: I would give it an hour or so i'm sure it will be up by then20:06
apparle[mad]Berry: so it was in a file.....20:06
[mad]Berryapparle: yes20:06
James147ahsan: or to copy from konsole you can press alt+crtl+c (and paste to konsole use (alt+ctrl+v)20:06
ahsanwt is abck command20:06
apparle[mad]Berry: can you tell me the name of file.....in case I need it ever20:07
[mad]Berryapparle: Just scroll up.20:09
James147ahsan: can you paste the command you are typing into the terminal here?20:09
mblentonhi all. is it possible to setup dual boot via some gui tool? i have windows and another linux, but now installed kubuntu which didn't accept the existing boot configuration20:09
alterooahsan: press up on the command console and you should get the command you typed in20:09
alteroocopy that and paste it back here20:10
apparleDo I have to close firefox while its updating?20:10
apparlefrom package20:10
alterooapparle: no when you want the new one you jsut close firefox and then reopen it20:10
Unksiapparle: not necessarily, you may encounter problems if you dont restart it after the update20:11
James147apparle: dont think so, but you need to close it to use the updated version20:11
James147apparle: its usually best to restart it after (or close it before if you dont need to use it) just incase20:11
apparlenot only firefox....in general do I have to close the program while its package is updated......like it was in windows20:12
James147apparle: no20:12
James147apparle: but it is advised to restart the program after20:12
apparleJames147: another advantage over windows20:12
alterooapparle: quite a nice one20:13
James147apparle: yup, no need to restart the system either, even if you upgrade the full DE, just restart it and your fine :)20:13
apparleJames147: but restart is required in case of kernel upgraded20:14
alterooapparle: Same concept :) You need to restart the program20:14
James147apparle: only if you want to use the new kernel :) linux wont force you to restart20:14
apparle:)20:14
alterooThis just happens to be tied to the kernel :)20:14
ahsansudo cp/etc/default/prelink /etc/default/prelink.`date +%y%m%d-%H%M`20:15
James147ahsan: space between cp and /etc20:15
alterooahsan: you need a space between cp and /20:15
alteroosudo cp /etc20:15
ahsanok20:15
Fanfare!de20:15
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.20:15
chxhow can i close the child windows of a program? say skype or kopete, there are so many after a little time20:16
alteroochx: depends on the program20:16
ahsannothing happened :(20:16
James147chx: kquitapp <kde application>  if not you can try killall <application>20:17
alterooahsan: Then it worked properly20:17
alterooJames147: That's not child windows20:17
chxhuh killall is a bit too much :)20:17
chxi want skype to stay alive, see20:17
alteroochx: I jsut consolidate all my kopete windows :)20:17
James147chx: ahh :)20:17
James147chx: i know kopete can use tabs for contact windows, that might help20:18
ahsanmeans it had been configured automatically?20:18
James147ahsan: the cp command wont output anythign on a success20:19
James147ahsan: use ls path/to/place  (ie ls /etc/default) to see if it was copyed20:20
James147ahsan: or ls /etc/defaults | grep prelink20:21
alterooahsan: It meand you can go on to the next step on the page :)20:21
alterooahsan: type kdesudo kate /etc/date/prelink20:23
ahsana window opened wid prelink written in 1 column n the other column blank20:26
xenoterracidewhen I click open containg folder in firefox downloads, it open cerversia anyone know the setting to get it to use dolphin?20:27
ahsanwt shud i do now :$20:27
alterooahsan: try putting yes in the second column20:27
alteroothen save it20:27
ahsani wrote yes but its not saving it20:28
ahsansaying not enuff space or access denies20:29
alterooahsan: you opened it with kdesudo ?20:29
ahsanyes20:29
ahsankdesudo kate /etc/date/prelink20:30
alteroohmm it should work then20:31
alterooahsan: Blah20:31
alterooahsan: close it and don't save20:32
alteroorun kdesudo kate /etc/default/prelink20:32
ahsani did20:32
ahsannow ?20:32
ahsani entered thru dolphin as a root n now i hav 4 files of prelink infront of me20:34
ahsantemme which one i open20:34
alteroothe one that just says prelink20:34
alterooyou should have a line that says PRELINKING=unknown20:35
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cuznt!botsnack20:37
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!20:37
yuanminhello20:40
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alteroo!hi| yuanmin20:41
ubottuyuanmin: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!20:41
yuanminthanks,:) can someone teach me to forbid my integrated video card in Ubuntu 9.04?thanks20:41
yuanmincause i want to install another video card20:41
yuanminsrry about my bad english....... XD20:42
yuanmin?20:43
alterooyuanmin: drop it in your modules blacklist20:43
yuanminthanks, but how? i'm a newbie.....20:44
Fanfareyuanmin: or disable internal gfx in BIOS20:44
alterooyuanmin: That would be a lot easier ;)20:44
yuanminname is "internal gfx" in BIOS?20:44
yuanminok20:44
alterooyuanmin: Depends on your BIOS but something like integrated video20:44
yuanminit's normally in which section?20:45
alterooyuanmin: Depends on your BIOS but perhaps something like INtegrated Devices or Onboard20:46
yuanminok, thanks, i'm going to try, is there anything that i should know before i do it?20:46
alterooyuanmin: Put in your other video card ;-)20:47
yuanmin:) thanks20:47
yuanminmay be see u later..... XD20:48
alterooMake sure you can use the monitor from the other card before you flip the integrated one off in BIOS20:49
yuanminyes, i have windows in my disk, this has been checked20:50
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yuanminok, i ll take a shot now, wish me luck...... thanks :)20:51
Irvingive been fighting with computer to work for about a week and a half, found out it was my CD drive killing me20:55
Irvingi couldn't get windows, kubuntu, or ubuntu to install properly, used a tool to on my windows laptop that built a bootable usb thumb drive with the ubuntu iso on it20:56
Irvingworking beautifully now20:56
FanfareIrving: And much faster than from CD-Drive, i discovered lately...20:58
Irvingyea your right it did seem very fast21:01
Irvingdo you have any experience with multi OS on one machine?21:01
alterooFanfare: Optical is the slowest possible means of any transfer for a computer21:03
Fanfarealteroo: at least from a rotating disc.21:04
alterooFanfare: Funny that should be slower than a rotating magnetic desc huh?21:05
Irvingyea21:05
Irvingalteroo: a thumb drive isn't a spinning magentic disk I don't think21:06
alterooA hard drive is21:06
Irvingoh ok21:07
Irvingmy mistake, thought you were comparing to thumb drive21:07
Irvingis it possible to install windows XP after ubuntu has been installed21:08
Irvingi already have partitions set aside for it21:08
FanfareIrving: u can, but Win wipes the MBR, so u cant start ubuntu anymore from normal hdd21:09
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alterooIrving: Yes21:09
Irvinghow would i open ubuntu then21:09
alteroo!mbr | Irving21:10
ubottuIrving: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:10
omeis it  possible to install win7 while ubuntu and winxp has already installed??21:10
rosco_awayome: on the same drive?21:10
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omeof course21:10
alterooome: Yes as long as you make the space for it21:11
rosco_ywell, you might look into gparted to resize your partitions, you could get room that way for starters21:11
rosco_yI've done that21:11
omeok21:11
rosco_yso yeah, I've resized a partition, installed win7 on it, and then added it to my grub menu21:11
Fanfareif u dont need an OS for hardware specific stuff i recommend testing other OSes in a virtual machine...21:11
rosco_yit worked out ok21:11
rosco_yFanfare: yeah, excellent suggestion, right at this very moment I'm using WinXP in a VBOX because my mono debugger isn't working too great21:13
rosco_yVBOX (by sun) is a great product...my XP works (nearly) just as good as if it were booted native21:13
rosco_yit's not 100% perfect of course, but it's very close21:14
Fanfareand it saves some grub troubles if u install M$ after Linux21:14
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trijntjeHi all, i'm new to kubuntu and when setting up some effects the whole desktop background, including widgets en kmenu, is black21:19
trijntjehow can i get things back to normal?21:20
alterootrijntje: when you right click it do you get a menu?21:22
alterooFanfare: Otherway around surely?21:22
alterooand M$ is very childish :)21:22
trijntjealteroo: nope, nothing happens21:24
alterootrijntje: What happens when you press alt+F2 ?21:25
trijntjealteroo: that works, i get a prompt21:27
trijntjealteroo: i could just reboot or something but i was hoping there is a gracefull way ;)21:27
madberrytrijntje: This could be caused by a widget.  Je kunt voor nederlandse help naar #ubuntu-nl21:29
alterootrijntje: type plasma-desktop21:29
trijntjealteroo: that fixed it, thanks :D21:30
trijntjecu later all21:31
alterooBye21:31
kimael_Hi21:43
alteroo!hi | kimael_21:44
ubottukimael_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!21:44
kimael_:)21:44
kimael_Does anyone use dualscreen ?21:44
kimael_I'm trying to understand a problem... with dualscreen.21:45
kimael_The KDE bar does not appear.21:45
alterooThe panel?21:45
kimael_yep21:45
alterooYou get a background etc ?21:46
kimael_yep21:46
kimael_Everything is fine21:46
kimael_except it seems like the pannel is UNDER my screen.21:46
alterooohhhh21:46
alterooummm21:46
kimael_every Plasmoïdes are shifted to the down.21:46
alteroocheck in #plasma21:46
kimael_LOL very nice idea. See you soon (hope not :D )21:47
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IAmWilli have an interesting problem.... my keyboard doesnt work in kde.. (works in kdm)... but the keyboard works fine in fluxbox... what would cause that?22:02
alterooIAmWill: KDE/ X bug Does your Mouse work?22:03
IAmWillyes, mouse works fine22:03
IAmWillin both desktops and in kdm22:03
alterooIAmWill: Ok This is an unoffical work around I've been using since KDE 4.122:03
alterooTurn on desktop edges so that when you drag a window to the edge of the window it flips desktops22:04
IAmWillokay22:04
IAmWillalteroo: is that it?22:05
alterooIAmWill: Does the keybaord work now ?22:06
IAmWillwhere is that option at? ... cant seem to find it... (is it under appearances?)22:07
alterooI'm under windows now :-(22:08
IAmWillokay22:08
IAmWillturn them all on?22:08
alterooCan Someone remind me where the option is to allow the desktop to be changed if you drag the mouse to the edge of the screen ?22:08
alterooIAmWill: It's a selection. Yo ucan have it off anytime he mouse touches the screen edge or only when dragging an application22:09
IAmWilli see the boxes in every corner and in the middle... the one on the left is green22:09
IAmWillwait.. window behavior..22:09
alterooSomething like that22:09
alterooIAmWill: it might be under that section. I just remember it saying that it had to do with screen edges and allowed switching desktops when the mouse gets pushed against it or only when the mouse is dragging an application22:11
IAmWillwindows behavior > advanced > active desk borders ??22:14
IAmWilldo i need to restart X afterwards for this work around to take effect?22:15
IAmWillokay.. i can hold letters down and they will repeat... but i cant just type normally...22:21
IAmWillits like the keyboard is not responsive22:21
IAmWillunless i hold down a key22:21
IAmWillstupid accessibility22:25
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surgycan someone help me solve my problem? here is a paste from terminal : http://pastebin.com/m6475dc7922:26
IAmWillthe "use slow keys" was on22:26
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JuJuBeeWhen my update notifier pops up, it says I have several blocked updates.  What is that from?23:00
FanfareJuJuBee: try sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a konsole23:02
JuJuBeeI am running 9.04 already, will dist-upgrade do anything?23:04
FanfareJuJuBee: just upgrade all possible upgrades23:05
JuJuBeeDid the update...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/270012/  seems something is wrong..23:06
FanfareJuJuBee: versionjumps but ubuntu stays 9.0423:06
FanfareJuJuBee: thats ok as long as u still trust opera...23:06
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JuJuBeeI do still use opera23:07
JuJuBeein fact using now... I  like the built in irc client23:07
FanfareJuJuBee: u didnt import theyr public key to verify packages... u can ignore that23:07
JuJuBeeOk. thanks23:07
JuJuBeedoing dist-upgrade now23:08
JuJuBeeso what causes updates to be blocked in the first place?23:08
FanfareJuJuBee: could be missing packages, or kernelupdates23:09
JuJuBeewill the dist-upgrade take care of that?23:09
Fanfareyes, dist-upgrades upgrases everythink it can find outdated. It'll ask before proceeding.23:10
JuJuBeekool.  it is working now.  Thanks.23:11
FanfareJuJuBee: its the power of console :-)23:12
JuJuBeeYes,  I do like doing things at console when i can.23:12
JuJuBeeAhhh, all done.23:14
FanfareJuJuBee: if kernel got updated, it is recomendet to restart23:15
JuJuBeeneed to restart23:15
JuJuBeeFanfare: seems there were a couple of kernel updates I missed...23:18
alterooJuJuBee: You normally only need the latest one23:18
JuJuBeeYeah, I commented out the others...23:19
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alterooQuitea few people just delay as long as tehy can and install the latest one23:19
alterooKinda like LTS :)23:19
alterooHmm23:19
alteroo !dapper23:19
ubottuUbuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on July 14th 2009, Server support will end in June 2011. See !upgrade for upgrade instructions23:19
alterooAwww Dapper died :(23:19
JuJuBeeanyone good with hardware issues?  I have an external hard drive in enclosure that not working.  when I plug in, dmesg recognizes the drive and capacity, but I cannot get it to mount23:21
FanfareJuJuBee: does it create a /dev/sdX?23:22
JuJuBeehang on, let me get the drive and plug it in...23:22
zaccouryahoo doesn't seem very kopete friendly. is this a bug?23:22
zaccouralso webs.com domains don't either23:23
alterookopete isn't vey yaho friendly23:23
zaccourdo people chat in this channel? lol23:23
zaccouroh ok23:23
zaccouralteroo, its not yahoo friendly? how come?23:24
zaccouri have to log into classic email before i can get to the new email version lol23:24
alterooSOmeone needs to work on the protocol23:24
zaccourkopete works great with flash videos though, better than firefox23:24
JuJuBeeFanfare: this is what messages says when I plug it in...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/270018/23:27
FanfareJuJuBee: looks like theres no partition on device /dev/sdc23:29
JuJuBeeFanfare: no /dev/sdc available...23:29
JuJuBeeFanfare: gparted doesn't list the device23:29
Fanfaredid u do it as sudo?23:30
JuJuBeeDo what as Sudo?23:31
JuJuBeehere is some updated info   http://paste.ubuntu.com/270020/23:31
Fanfare!sudo23:31
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)23:31
JuJuBeeFanfare: I know what sudo is, but did I do what as sudo?  run gparted?  it asked me for the admin password if that is what you mean23:32
FanfareJuJuBee: yeah, that was it, dont use gparted... but hardware error looks bad!23:33
Fanfareu have any data on that device?23:33
JuJuBeeYes, but nott anything I dont have elsewhere23:33
JuJuBeebad like the drive is toast?23:34
JuJuBeeor needs to be re-formatted?23:34
FanfareJuJuBee: well, maybe the drive supports SMART try package smartmontools23:37
zaccourwhats a good email client besides yahoo and gmail? i wanna get away from the ads and become low profile23:38
JuJuBeeFanfare: K, installing23:39
Fanfarezaccour: u mean email-provider? which countryß23:39
zaccourUSA23:39
zaccourFanfare, USA23:39
Fanfarezaccour: well, dont know any other than hotmail... what probs do u have with gmail, yahoo?23:41
JuJuBeeFanfare: what do I do after I install it?  How do I run?23:41
zaccouryahoo gets lots of spam and i just want something different and low profile23:41
FanfareJuJuBee: sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdc23:42
Fanfarezaccour: but it has pop3 or imap? install spam filter on local mailclient.23:43
JuJuBeeFanfare: Smartctl open device: /dev/sdc failed: No such file or directory23:44
FanfareJuJuBee: ? u plugged device in? a /dev/sdc is there?23:45
JuJuBeeplugged in yes23:47
JuJuBeebut /dev/sdc does not appear to be there23:48
SJrHow can I get 2.6.3123:49
Fanfarehm, thats to bad, so it really looks like a hardware error...23:49
JuJuBeebummer23:49
alterooSJr: pull it from Karmic23:49
JuJuBeeoh well, gtg, thanks for the help Fanfare23:51
FanfareJuJuBee: ur welcom23:51
siegiei've installed opensync-plugin-kdepim but where do i find it?23:55
Fanfaresiegie: its part of opensync! u needt to use it with opensync tools23:55
siegieFanfare: I can only find multisync-tools in  the repo's from karmic23:57
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Fanfaresiegie: opensyncutils package?23:58
siegieah thanks Fanfare23:59

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