[00:00] <madberry> you use /whois madberry
[00:00] <davidscott> ok :) thanks the expert of irc :) i'm a real noob in irc ^^
[00:00] <madberry> lol
[00:01] <madberry> Time for a reboot just updated Karmic
[00:01] <e370> who's hacking facebook
[00:01] <e370> these guys are idiots
[00:06] <serprev_> quit
[00:06] <cor> heh
[00:07] <davidscott> how can i change color of foreground?
[00:10] <fahad> i have ubuntu and yestarday installed KDE now i have programes of Kubuntu in my gnome , can i hide it just in gnome ?
[00:11] <fahad> anybody here ?
[00:11] <madberry> yes fahad?
[00:12] <fahad> madberry:  i have ubuntu and yestarday installed KDE now i have programes of Kubuntu in my gnome , can i hide it just in gnome ?
[00:12] <shadeslayer> fahad: nope
[00:13] <fahad> ok can i uninstall KDE ?
[00:13] <madberry> fahad as far as I know this iis not possible if you are done with Gnome all together you can remove the ubuntu-deskto by running "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" without quotes
[00:13] <madberry> and in terminal lol
[00:13] <fahad> aha
[00:14] <fahad> thx man :)
[00:14] <madberry> yw
[00:14] <sunoracleadmin> madberry is the best he help me yesterday answering some kubuntu questions
[00:14] <fahad> :)
[00:15] <madberry> just doing my part for the community
[00:15] <james9112> i am new at this what   do     i do?
[00:15] <madberry> james9112 what do you do with what?
[00:16] <fahad> madberry : thats why i love linux bcz we are community
[00:16] <james9112> i  need to find drivers for my AiO3 all in one printer form Kodak
[00:17] <madberry> !print | james9112
[00:18] <lovre> hi all
[00:18] <fahad> hi
[00:18] <james9112> is this like IM on a standard computer
[00:18] <madberry> printing a a complicated thing is some cases please refer to those pages they explain it all
[00:18] <lovre> how can i play ASX stream? I tried opening it with Amarok, but it doesnt play. Neither with Audacious....
[00:18] <james9112> Thank you for your assistance madberry
[00:19] <madberry> james9112 yw
[00:20] <james9112> I will try the locations for the drivers Thanks again
[00:20] <madberry> updating to the new version of tweetdeck wish me luck lol
[00:21] <sunoracleadmin> james9112>	nope its better to say this is irc and a support for kubuntu users
[00:24] <madberry> Tweetdeck update looks nice
[00:24] <lovre> can someone please help me by trying to play this stream, i dont know if its just me or it doesnt work: http://www.radiomaria.org/media/croatia-hq.asx
[00:25] <madberry> lovre loading the stream hold on
[00:26] <madberry> lovre try playing the stream in VLC
[00:26] <lovre> madberry: so does it work?
[00:27] <lovre> madberry: or not, i didnt understand
[00:27] <lovre> madberry: ah, lol, you said hold on....
[00:27] <sunoracleadmin> lol
[00:27] <lovre> madberry: vlc didnt work..... :(
[00:30] <madberry> lovre checking the VLC log right now
[00:31] <lovre> madberry: ok thank you
[00:31] <xtremeandrew> Can someone point me in an initial direction to install my USB Wireless LAN thingy?
[00:32] <Guest51279> oi
[00:32] <Irving> hello
[00:32] <madberry> !network | xtremeandrew
[00:32] <xtremeandrew> awesome thanks
[00:33] <xtremeandrew> but...I have Wireless via a pcmcia card..I want to install my USB WLAN card.  How do I do USB?
[00:33] <madberry> lovre the log says VLC gets a 404 on http://eu.media.radiomaria.org:8000/mp3/cbr/32/croatia
[00:34] <Irving> i am having trouble connecting to a wireless network, if someone could help it would be great
[00:35] <madberry> Irving did you try the above link to the wiki?
[00:36] <xtremeandrew> !network | Irving
[00:36] <xtremeandrew> !usb
[00:36] <xtremeandrew> thanks for the self-help
[00:38] <madberry> xtremeandrew what is the chipset what USB wireless device we need more info
[00:38] <xtremeandrew> netgear WG111T
[00:40] <madberry> !ndiswrapper | xtremeandrew
[00:40] <madberry> look at the ndiswrapper section as far as I know there are no linux drivers for that device
[00:41] <xtremeandrew> ok, figures...thanks.
[00:41] <Irving> hello
[00:41] <madberry> yes Irving?
[00:42] <Irving> i need some help with connecting kubuntu to my wireless network
[00:43] <Irving> i am on a fresh install of kubuntu 9.04
[00:43] <Irving> i added my network info, hit scan, selected my SSID, entered security
[00:43] <sunoracleadmin> kubuntu;can actually work on most wireless devices out from the box right
[00:43] <Irving> but it will not connect, and I can't find the connect button
[00:44] <Irving> @sunoracleadmin it did work previous install
[00:44] <madberry> sunoracleadmin: yes but check the hardware comp. list to be sure
[00:44] <Irving> not even a week ago i had a fresh install from the same CD and it worked fine
[00:44] <madberry> Irving: are you using the network manager?
[00:44] <Irving> I didn't have to tinker with anything, plugged in my usb wireless card and it connected automagically
[00:44] <Irving> it says Network Managemet
[00:45] <Irving> in the task bar area, when I mousover it shows etho0: unavailable and wlan0: not connected
[00:45] <madberry> Irving: the previous install was also 9.04?
[00:45] <Irving> correct
[00:46] <Irving> i do recall seeing a different network setup area before when it was working though
[00:46] <sunoracleadmin> so you meant it worked before but now it stop working
[00:46] <Irving> http://vizzzion.org/images/blog/networkmanager-kde4.png
[00:47] <Irving> yes
[00:47] <Irving> new install though
[00:47] <Irving> i was trying to put windows on, had major problems, formatted everything, installed kubuntu 9.04 again
[00:47] <Irving> the screenshot shows what I remember seeing, something similar to that with the bars on the networks (in my case only one, my wireless network)
[00:48] <Irving> i don't have that now, just the box to the left on the screen shot
[00:48] <madberry> Irving:  You need to finish the network setting to be able to connect
[00:49] <Irving> what do you mean
[00:50] <sunoracleadmin> wherein you have to supply an ssid and an ecryption key or a password
[00:50] <Irving> i did do that
[00:50] <madberry> Irving:  In the Image it says that you are connected to your default network
[00:51] <Irving> the image isn't mine, i just googled that quick
[00:51] <Irving> just to show what I can't find, that menu on the lower right showing the networks
[00:51] <Irving> i remember seeing it before, when I was able to connect, now that doesn't come up
[00:51] <Irving> I went through and entered all of my settings in the other box to the left but it doesn't connect
[00:52] <sunoracleadmin> are you sure you have internet connection to your router
[00:52] <Irving> yep, on it now on laptop via wireless
[00:53] <madberry> Irving:  ah It seems that the wireless hardware isn't working right.  Open terminal and run "iwconfig" to determine if your wireless is working.
[00:54] <sunoracleadmin> try that first irv
[00:54] <vlada> hi
[00:54] <Irving> ok ran it, various things come up that all say "no wireless extensions." except for wlan0
[00:54] <vlada> I have a big problem with pre-9.10
[00:54] <Irving> wlan0 says: IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:""
[00:55] <vlada> I cant enter partitions manually
[00:55] <Irving> Mode:Managed  Frequency 2.412Ghz
[00:55] <vlada> anyone experienced that?
[00:55] <madberry> viada: please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic prroblems
[00:55] <Irving> Acess Point: Not-Associated
[00:55] <Irving> Tx-Power=15 dBm
[00:55] <Irving> Retry min limit: 7
[00:55] <Irving> RTS thr:off
[00:56] <madberry> Irving: now run "iwlist scanning" do any networks come up?
[00:56] <Irving> Fragment thr=2352 B
[00:56] <vlada> madberry: thanx
[00:56] <Irving> yes it found my network
[00:57] <madberry> vlada: yw
[00:57] <madberry> Irving: Try restarting this sometimes works
[00:57] <sunoracleadmin> brb guys,rebooting...
[00:57] <rosco_y> Can anyone recommend a "ToDo Manager"?
[00:57] <Irving> ok will do, but I have tried this several times already
[00:58] <Irving> rosco_y: like a to do list type thing?
[00:58] <madberry> rosco_y: Kontact
[00:58] <rosco_y> Irving: exactly
[00:58] <rosco_y> madberry: is that a contact organizer?
[00:59] <Irving> i know of a great site for it, tons of features on it was free when I used it a while back
[00:59] <rosco_y> I need a todo list to keep me focused on my tasks
[00:59] <Irving> http://www.goalsontrack.com/
[00:59] <rosco_y> Irving: is it opensource?
[00:59] <Irving> web based app, sends you reports on precentages and stuff
[00:59] <Irving> idk
[00:59] <madberry> rosco_y:  Yes but it also holds kmail, notes etc.
[00:59] <Irving> i don't thinks so
[00:59] <rosco_y> (not that I want to modify it, I just can't aford to pay for software right now :((
[01:00] <Irving> no its free
[01:00] <Irving> no software to download, just sign up for an account
[01:00] <madberry> rosco_y: Open Kontact the todolist Icon is on the left
[01:00] <Irving> and you can create projects, tasks within each project, when you would like to have it done by, etc
[01:00] <rosco_y> madberry: Thank you, I'll give it a shot
[01:01] <rosco_y> Irving: it does look very nice, it's sold as a service I see...
[01:01] <rosco_y> $10 per month?
[01:01] <Irving> oh ok sry, havn't used it in a while
[01:01] <Irving> it used to be free, but that was a while ago sorry about that
[01:02] <rosco_y> Irving: :) sokay--thanks in every case!
[01:02] <Irving> np
[01:02] <Irving> ok madberry i'm rebooted, still not connecting
[01:02] <madberry> Irving: no list either?
[01:03] <Irving> what do you mean no list?
[01:03] <madberry> Irving:  in the plasmoid
[01:03] <Irving> um
[01:04] <Irving> im very new to this, not sure of all the terminology
[01:04] <rosco_y> madberry: wow, I really like this Kontact
[01:04] <rosco_y> Thanks for the tips!
[01:04] <madberry> rosco_y:  Me too lol yw
[01:05] <Irving> i have the network management icon in the task bar on the lower right
[01:06] <madberry> Irving: No list?
[01:06] <Irving> im not sure what you mean
[01:07] <madberry> you should see a list of wireless networks when you right click on the icon
[01:07] <Irving> when i right click the icon I get...
[01:07] <Irving> Manage Connections, Network Management Settings, Panel Optioms, Remove this Network Management
[01:08] <cor> Thunderbird can do it all with plugins, too.
[01:10] <Irving> no list yet
[01:11] <madberry> Irving: Did you hand edit the /etc/network/interface file?
[01:11] <Irving> no
[01:12] <Irving> that file contains only two lines for me
[01:12] <Irving> auto lo
[01:12] <Irving> iface lo inet loopback
[01:14] <madberry> Irving:  that is correct hold on searching for an answer
[01:14] <Irving> ok ty
[01:16] <cor> what sort of connexion we setting up?
[01:16] <cor> man:interfaces is where to start
[01:16] <cor> in konqueror
[01:16] <Irving> wireless connection
[01:17] <cor> WPA?
[01:17] <madberry> cor: Quick recap he's trying to connect to a wrieless network with knetwork manager but no networks sjhow up in the list of the plasmoid
[01:18] <cor> iwlist scanning
[01:18] <cor> in the shell
[01:18] <madberry> gives a list of networks
[01:18] <cor> I guess you need to be root. do sudo -i before starting all this stuff
[01:18] <madberry> not for iwlist scanning
[01:19] <cor> if the interface is up, it shows you all the available networks
[01:19] <Irving> its wpa
[01:19] <cor> first you need to get the interface up
[01:19] <Irving> ok
[01:19] <Irving> http://vizzzion.org/images/blog/networkmanager-kde4.png
[01:19] <Irving> the thing on the rightside of that screenshot?
[01:19] <madberry> he gets a list through iwlist but not in the plasmoid
[01:20] <cor> I don't use any of the GUI network tools, so I'll be no help with that side of things
[01:21] <madberry> I don't use it either I don't like the network managers
[01:21] <Irving> is there a way I can connect through the terminal
[01:21] <cor> sure
[01:22] <cor> you simply add some lines to /etc/network/interfaces,. and then bring up the interface
[01:22] <madberry> It's time for dinner here cor you want to pick it up?
[01:22] <cor> well, I can try!
[01:22] <madberry> cool
[01:22] <Irving> thank for the help madberry, enjoy your dinner
[01:22] <cor> Irving, see here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html
[01:23] <Irving> ok
[01:23] <madberry> Irving: yw I'll be back later if it doesn't work out
[01:23] <cor> at least, keep it handy as a reference
[01:23] <cor> There's a document I;ll need to locate, hidden deep inside your system, one moment
[01:24] <cor> or two
[01:24] <madberry> Irving: You could try this: http://madberry.org/2008/08/wireless-with-wpa_supplicant-easier-then-you-think/
[01:25] <cor> aha! /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces
[01:25] <madberry> okay off to dinner
[01:25] <Irving> k bye madberry, thanks again
[01:26] <cor> it has no WPA-specific examples, but it is an excellent reference to help you understand what's going on. Once you do, you can setup *any* network interface
[01:29] <madberry> Irving: in your case the interface would be wlan0 in my article
[01:29] <cor> The cool thing about the interfaces file is that as well as the ifup commands, you can do pre-up commands, and basically run any unix command-line as part of the ifup (interface up) process. In other words, no matter how complicate dthe setup is, you can store all the steps required in that one file, and they will be processed automatically by ifup
[01:29] <cor> and post-up, and more
[01:30] <madberry> okay really gone now lol
[01:31] <cor> heh been there
[01:33] <Irving> hmm
[01:33] <Irving> madberries guide seems easy to follow, should I follow those steps?
[01:34] <Irving> btw i looked through the network-interfaces
[01:34] <Irving> seems interesting, so you can actually edit the interfaces file to custom setup the connection however you want it?
[01:37] <Irving> ah, I can't do madberry's guide because I don't have wired connection to do the apt-get parts
[01:37] <cor> sorry, got sidetracked there a second
[01:38] <cor> the interfaces file is very powerful
[01:38] <cor> how are you chatting?
[01:38] <Irving> other computer
[01:38] <cor> you could apt-get download and transfer over
[01:39] <Irving> well this computer is vista not linux
[01:39] <cor> here's a simple looking guide for WPA, skip past part 1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-debian-ubuntu-linux-wlan-wpa2-configuration.html
[01:39] <cor> ahh i seee!
[01:39] <cor> it's still doable!
[01:40] <cor> but all you need is already on-board
[01:40] <cor> Once you get the correct lines in there, you just do ifup wlan0 and wham!
[01:40] <cor> thereafter, bootup does it automatically
[01:40] <Irving> sounds good
[01:41] <Irving> only problem is I am very new to linux
[01:41] <Irving> so this is all very overwhelming haha
[01:41] <cor> basically ifup -a, which is "all interfaces" (in whatever order you specify)
[01:41] <cor> it is, you are right
[01:41] <cor> it's a totally different way of doing things
[01:42] <cor> Kubuntu. more than any other flavour of decent Linux, is Windows-like, but underneath all that, it's still Linux, and to take full advantage of that, you need to adopt, at least partially, a UNIX mindset
[01:43] <cor> do you know how to access man pages?
[01:43] <Irving> typing man:interface like i did before into knoqueror?
[01:43] <cor> yes! excellent. these aren't for beginners, sadly, and they mostly expect you to *already* know what you are doing.
[01:44] <cor> but once you know a wee bit, they start to become *extremely* useful
[01:44] <cor> Do you know what a command-line is?
[01:44] <Irving> terminal?
[01:44] <cor> well, yeah, it could be in the terminal
[01:45] <cor> basically, it's a"command" (usually a program, but often one of the built-in terminal (okay, "BASH") commands
[01:45] <cor> followed by some arguments
[01:45] <Irving> oh ok
[01:46] <cor> foo-program --special-behaviour /path/to/my/file
[01:46] <aj_444> The sound isn't working on kubuntu. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[01:46] <cor> ^^ the program  ^^ a switch ^^ a file you want the program to do something to
[01:46] <Irving> ok i see
[01:46] <cor> parts 2 and 3 are optional
[01:47] <cor> but that is a command, and any time anyhting happens anywhere on any computer, it's because some process or user or *something* sent a command-line to the system
[01:48] <cor> it's the same on windows. but once you understand that *everything* that's going on was started and gets controlled this way, you can do all sorts of powerfully useful things
[01:48] <Irving> yep one of the reasons I started tinkering with linux
[01:49] <cor> you might have guessed, I'm a believer in folk understanding the fundamentals. cuz it saves you SO MUCH TIME, later
[01:49] <Irving> that makes sense
[01:49] <cor> really, I see folk wasting so much time messing around with stuff it would have taken a fraction of the time to UNDERSTAND, if only they'd read the manual, slowly!
[01:49] <cor> it really does!
[01:50] <cor> for example, I like Gilles Peterson
[01:50] <cor> A dj on Radio 1, UK
[01:50] <e370> i prefur smooth radio
[01:50] <cor> On windows, I used to send firefox to the radio one site every wed night, and go listen
[01:50] <cor> but usually I forgot
[01:51] <cor> and sometimes I forgot and missed the entire show
[01:51] <cor> On Linux, it's different
[01:51] <e370> How do i install a netbookremix.img file onto a ssd card
[01:51] <e370> sd i mean
[01:51] <cor> I have a script that runs on a cron (aka "schedule"), that contact the bbc site, which tells anothe program to grab the stream, which tells another program to convert it and drop it into my Radio folder
[01:52] <cor> and finally, tells another program to grab the playlist
[01:52] <cor> But when I wake up Thursday, it's *just there*
[01:52] <Irving> sounds cool
[01:52] <cor> it is cool
[01:52] <cor> it's power
[01:52] <Irving> i'd love to learn more, and intend to
[01:52] <cor> Tall those wasted minutes mount up
[01:52] <cor> *all
[01:52] <sunoracleadmin> cor: what a great script you got there
[01:52] <cor> script?
[01:53] <cor> oh right! the radio!
[01:53] <cor> feck yeah!]
[01:53] <cor> get_iplayer
[01:53] <cor> it's available! go for it!
[01:53] <cor> not mine. I just downloaded it
[01:53] <cor> and cronned it up
[01:54] <cor> There's a cgi back-end so you can index shows loacally in your browser, plugins for other networks, and much much more. check it out!
[01:54] <cor> I got the entire Desparate Romantics 6-part on beautiful 720p HDTV
[01:55] <Irving> you use bit torrent?
[01:55] <cor> (automatically piped through ffmpeg on download, to switch out the container from flv to mp4, so me media players don't fart on it)
[01:55] <cor> I do, yes, 24/7
[01:55] <Irving> me too
[01:55] <Irving> well usually
[01:56] <Irving> in a fix right now, i boned my computer
[01:56] <cor> one sec
[01:56] <Irving> ok
[01:57] <sunoracleadmin> thats cool boneing...
[01:58] <cor> boned yer puter!?! you dirty sod!
[01:58] <cor> which port?
[01:58] <cor> lol
[01:59] <Irving> haha
[01:59] <Irving> i got a virus of some kind
[01:59] <cor> WIndows?
[01:59] <Irving> ran combo fix which helped me many times
[01:59] <Irving> yes windows XP
[01:59] <cor> GOD is telling you to switch 100% Linux
[01:59] <cor> LISTEN TO GOD!
[02:00] <Irving> i know right haha
[02:00] <Irving> after running combo fix, computer never came back up
[02:00] <cor> ouch
[02:00] <Irving> and my XP cd is 5 hours away
[02:00] <sunoracleadmin> got to catch some sleep nice meeting all here at the channel cya latr
[02:00] <Irving> take care
[02:00] <cor> maybe!
[02:01] <Irving> someone i know got me a SP3 corporate disk image of xp
[02:01] <Irving> that won't install for anything
[02:01] <Irving> no XP cd to use my legit license
[02:01] <Irving> and now no network connection for kubuntu :(
[02:02] <Irving> fighiting a losing battle here lol
[02:02] <cor> memory stick?
[02:02] <cor> anyways, back to the interfaces
[02:02] <cor> did you check out that page?
[02:03] <Irving> i did try to put the contents of the SP3 image onto a thumb drive, that didn't get me anywhere though
[02:03] <Irving> which page, I looked at a few of them you sent
[02:03] <cor> I meant for transferring any stuff over. but there should be no need. just good config.
[02:03] <cor> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-debian-ubuntu-linux-wlan-wpa2-configuration.html
[02:04] <cor> instead of ra0, yours would likely be wlan0, I'd imagine
[02:05] <Irving> yes thats what it is
[02:05] <cor> The important thing is to set the correct ID and keys
[02:05] <cor> I don't think you need pre-up commands for this, there should be native commands, but I'd try both
[02:06] <Irving> auto ra0
[02:06] <Irving> iface ra0 inet dhcp
[02:06] <Irving> pre-up iwconfig ra0 mode managed
[02:06] <Irving> pre-up ifconfig ra0 up
[02:06] <Irving> pre-up iwconfig ra0 essid nixcraft
[02:06] <FloodBotK1> Irving: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <Irving> pre-up iwpriv ra0 set AuthMode=WPA2PSK
[02:06] <Irving> hello?
[02:06] <cor> woah!
[02:06] <Irving> my fault
[02:07] <cor> any more than 3 lines, use pastebin
[02:07] <Irving> i was just going to verify which section i should be dealing with
[02:07] <cor> you are on the right track, yes
[02:08] <Irving> http://paste.ubuntu.com/269494/
[02:08] <Irving> so i would replace ra0 with wlan0
[02:08] <cor> My point was, that guide exclusively uses pre-up commands, but that should not be necessary. For examplepre-up iwconfig wlan0 essid "foo" is the same as..
[02:08] <Irving> and then contiune through the settings with my ssid and such
[02:08] <cor> wireless-essid foo
[02:08] <cor> yes, that's about the size of it
[02:08] <cor> then save the file and do ..
[02:08] <cor> ifup wlan0
[02:09] <cor> InterFace UP
[02:09] <cor> not that second line, that's me exaplaining the first
[02:10] <Irving> ok, what about the auto lo, iface lo inet loopback that is already in the interfaces file
[02:14] <fahad> hello again i installed blender in my ubuntu its not working good my brother has mac OS its working very good :(  , what can i do ??
[02:17] <fahad> ?
[02:18] <Irving> idk where they went fahad
[02:18] <Irving> id help you but, I have very little knowledge of linux
[02:18] <fahad> ok anybody else ?
[02:20] <Irving> if your still here cor, i added that bit to the interfaces file but it wouldn't let me save it
[02:21] <cor> yo!
[02:21] <cor> no save? how you editing?
[02:24] <Irving> opened file by clicking, opened with Kate
[02:25] <cor> i see
[02:25] <cor> you need to edit as root
[02:25] <cor> the easiest way is to open the folder as root in Dolphin
[02:25] <cor> then you can work with it, edit it, whatever, as a root user, all transparently
[02:25] <cor> or else use mc
[02:26] <cor> sudo mc
[02:26] <cor> assuming mc is installed. if not, do..
[02:26] <cor> sudo aptitude -y install mc
[02:26] <cor> still there?
[02:27] <Irving> yep sry people IMing me
[02:28] <cor> afaik, you can only open a folder as root in Dolhin if you have a proper root user setup on your machine, with a password and such. I'm not certain because I don't have machine's setup without a root password for more than a few minutes during intial install
[02:28] <cor> but it's easy to do
[02:29] <Irving> hmm i have a login password
[02:29] <cor> sudo passwd root
[02:29] <Irving> i did open from dolphin, but it opened in kate
[02:29] <cor> first enter your regular admin password
[02:29] <cor> THEN
[02:29] <cor> enter your desired root password
[02:29] <cor> then repeat it
[02:30] <cor> THEN you have a root account with a proper login, and folk can't boot your machine directly into recovery mode and take over your system!
[02:30] <Irving> passwd: password updaed succesfully
[02:30] <cor> kewl
[02:30] <Irving> so do i hae to re login now
[02:30] <cor> n ow, in dolphin address bar (I assume you know how to get to that)..
[02:30] <cor> sftp://root@localhost/
[02:31] <cor> you get a login window, user user: root, password: your new root password
[02:31] <cor> so far so good?
[02:34] <Irving> i put that into the bar in dolphin it says Unknown error unexpected SFTP error: 8
[02:35] <cor> do you have an ssh server running?
[02:35] <cor> oh feck! that's something that probably need to be installed on a vanilla Kubunto FOR SOME OBSCURE REASON!!!!!!!
[02:35] <cor> openssl-server
[02:36] <Irving> ??
[02:37] <cor> You can download .deb packages and transfer over, or if you have the DVD version ,it's probably on there.
[02:37] <Irving> i just have the 9.04 install cd from the website, nothing eles installed
[02:37] <cor> not a problem, there are other ways to edit the file as root, for now
[02:37] <cor> #install that stuff later
[02:37] <Irving> ok
[02:37] <cor> in a shell..
[02:37] <cor> sudo kate
[02:37] <cor> now you have a ROOT copy of kate running.. BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!
[02:37] <cor> root user can do *anything*
[02:38] <cor> pretty much, which means delete the wrong file and it's game over
[02:39] <cor> anyways, in rootkate, open /etc/network/interfaces, and copy over your edited text from regularkate
[02:40] <cor> triple-check it for errors, and then save. quit rootkate
[02:41] <Irving> got a bunch of errors when i put in sudo kate
[02:41] <Irving> it did open however
[02:41] <Irving> but now the terminal is showing errors
[02:41] <Irving> i typed in /root/etc/network/interfaces/ and it says failed to open dir
[02:42] <cor> ignore terminal
[02:42] <Irving> ok
[02:42] <cor> no type
[02:42] <cor> Ctrl-O
[02:42] <cor> open file
[02:43] <cor>  /root/etc/network/interfaces/ is not a folder, it does not exist. /root/etc/network/interfaces <- no slash. is a FILE
[02:43] <Irving> ok i got it opened
[02:43] <Irving> ah that would explain it
[02:43] <cor> kewl. copy, paste, check. save.
[02:44] <Irving> how serious is this if the code is not right
[02:44] <Irving> cause im not positive of any of it
[02:44] <cor> not serious, unless you do pre-up <stupid command>
[02:44] <cor> stupid like rm -rf /
[02:44] <Irving> well i do have some pre-up as the tutorial metnioned
[02:44] <cor> cuz ifup will just do your pre-up commands as0is
[02:45] <cor> but no ifconfig command is gonna wreck anything
[02:45] <Irving> ok so how do i remove them, can I just delete the pre-up in front of the iwconfig
[02:45] <cor> you just do ifdown wlan0 and try again
[02:45] <cor> remove what?
[02:45] <Irving> the pre-up part of the code
[02:46] <cor> no need
[02:46] <Irving> can i just delete, or do i have to change any other part
[02:46] <cor> unless you have inserted some other crazy commands that need deleting
[02:46] <Irving> pre-up iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[02:46] <Irving> can i just remove pre-up
[02:46] <cor> earlier, I meant that some of those pre-up commands don't need to be pre-up commands, you could use the (shorter, simpler) built-in ifup commands
[02:46] <cor> NO
[02:47] <cor> but you can REPLACE them with built-in commands
[02:47] <cor> if you know which commands correspond to which. I gave an example, earlier
[02:48] <cor> try it all pre-up first. if it work, miracle! then you can try replacing them one at a time
[02:48] <Irving> but it wont cause me harm
[02:48] <cor> commenting out the pre-up version , and inserting the non-legacy version in its place. But seriously, if it works, you just leave it alone and be happy.
[02:48] <Irving> cause there are a bunch of pre-up
[02:48] <cor> not at all
[02:49] <cor> UNLESS THEY ARE STUPID COMMANDS
[02:49] <cor> like I said
[02:49] <Irving> ok i think im ready to save this
[02:49] <cor> but if it's just regular ifconfig and stuff, not a problem, no
[02:49] <Irving> oh ok
[02:49] <Irving> ill run it as is and see what happens
[02:49] <cor> point I'm tryiong to make is..
[02:49] <Irving> oh, do i need to get rid of auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[02:50] <cor> if you fuck up and put some *other* command in ther *by mistake* ifup will run it AS ROOT
[02:50] <cor> NO! leave them alone
[02:50] <cor> you begin a whole new stanza for the wifi
[02:50] <cor> ifup brings them up in order, see. local, ethernet, wifi (usually) always lo first, though
[02:51] <Irving> ah ok
[02:51] <cor> for example
[02:52] <cor> let's say you have a shutdown script in /usr/local/bin
[02:52] <cor> for quick typing, you name it "s"
[02:52] <cor> when editing your interfaces file, you save it (Ctrl-C), but your finger didn't quite hit the control key. so now there's an extra "s" in that script
[02:52] <cor> or some othter script
[02:53] <cor> you can see where I'm heading with this
[02:53] <cor> Some of the UNIC commands (programs) have very small names, and this is why any command you enter as root, or script that needs to be saved as root must be triple-checked before saving.
[02:53] <cor> *UNIX
[02:54] <Irving> ah i see
[02:54] <Irving> should i use the command now that they give to reset the networks
[02:54] <cor> The extra couple of seconds spent developing this good habit could save you potentially days and weeks of future downtime, as well as lost work.
[02:54] <cor> what is it?
[02:55] <cor> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:55] <cor> that should work
[02:55] <Irving> yes thats the one
[02:55] <cor> if you have that stuff installed (yeah, probably) then start with that
[02:55] <Irving> i have the terminal open for a while now
[02:56] <cor> keep it open!
[02:56] <Irving> i see now how all the programs run commands through
[02:56] <cor> always handy
[02:56] <Irving> makes a lot of sense
[02:56] <cor> if you are going to need to do lots of root commands, doing sudo command gets boring. instead, do..
[02:56] <cor> sudo -i
[02:56] <cor> then you get root and stay there
[02:57] <cor> when you are messing around with networking, it saves lots of time
[02:57] <cor> all networking commands need to be done as root, pretty much
[02:57] <cor> all the good stuff, anyway
[02:57] <Irving> no dice, got: Reconfiguring network interfaces...
[02:57] <Irving> wlan0 no private ioctls
[02:57] <Irving> failed to bring up wlan0
[02:57] <cor> I have no idea what that means
[02:58] <cor> do: ifdown -a
[02:58] <cor> as root
[02:58] <cor> all comands from here, as root!
[02:58] <cor> then do: ifup -a
[02:58] <cor> we should get better error messages
[02:59] <cor> try: ifup -va
[02:59] <cor> it possibly has a verbose mode
[02:59] <Irving> ok it did
[02:59] <Irving> sudo ifdown -a
[02:59] <cor> did what?
[02:59] <Irving> *i did
[02:59] <Irving> then i did the network restart command again
[02:59] <cor> sudo -i
[02:59] <Irving> this time it says
[03:00] <Irving> ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[03:00] <cor> nonono
[03:00] <Irving> idup: failed to open sate file ... (same as other one)
[03:00] <cor> forget that network restart thing
[03:00] <cor> sudo ifdown -a
[03:00] <cor> sudo ifup -a
[03:00] <cor> NOW what does it say?
[03:01] <Irving> ok i did sudo ifdown -a
[03:01] <Irving> nothing happened
[03:01] <Irving> sudo ifup -a
[03:01] <Irving> i got the original error
[03:01] <cor> that just stops them all
[03:02] <Irving> wlan0 no private ioctls
[03:02] <Irving> failed to bring up wlan0
[03:02] <cor> what do you get when you do: sudo iwconfig wlan0
[03:02] <cor> anything?
[03:02] <cor> has your ESSID been associated?
[03:03] <cor> and pastebin your interfaces file as-is
[03:03] <Irving> it does have my correct ESSID
[03:05] <Irving> hmmm
[03:05] <cor> I'm windering if the network manager is interfering here. I always uninstall that stuff first
[03:05] <Irving> should I do that?
[03:05] <cor> maybe google a bit. I'll brb
[03:06] <Irving> ok
[03:08] <cor> maybe you can simply disable network manager in the meantime
[03:08] <cor> can it not be done from the panel somewhere?
[03:09] <Irving> i don't know
[03:09] <cor> is there an applet?
[03:09] <Irving> idk
[03:09] <cor> look for a checkbox to disable networking
[03:09] <Irving> if i click remove this network management
[03:09] <cor> where is that?
[03:09] <Irving> right click on the taskbar icon
[03:09] <cor> nah
[03:10] <cor> that just removes the applet from the panel
[03:10] <cor> did you pastebin your interfaces file?
[03:10] <ubuntu> i like
[03:10] <ubuntu> ubuntu
[03:11] <cor> another command to use all the time (with iwconfig wlan0) is: ifconfig wlan0
[03:11] <Irving> lol ubuntu
[03:11]  * cor agrees with cor
[03:11] <Irving> what is the difference
[03:11] <ubuntu> :)
[03:11] <cor> try em both and see!
[03:11] <Irving> ok
[03:11] <ubuntu> just installed it
[03:11] <ubuntu> on my imac
[03:11] <ubuntu> so pretty
[03:11] <cor> or make a script that does both, call it "ifiw"
[03:12] <cor> ubuntu on imac. nize
[03:12] <Irving> ah ok i see
[03:12] <cor> ifconfig --help
[03:12] <Irving> im considering using ubuntu instead if I can't get this fixed
[03:12] <cor> iwconfig --help
[03:13] <cor> you can set all sorts
[03:13] <ubuntu> correction
[03:13] <Irving> ok isee the difference now between the two
[03:13] <ubuntu> im running kubuntu
[03:13] <ubuntu> ;)
[03:13] <cor> with the right drivers, you can even exceed legal power levels and really SCAN
[03:13] <cor> My old Acer can see for MILES! ;o)
[03:13] <ubuntu> o ya cor?
[03:13] <ubuntu> got a reference site on how to do thsi?
[03:14] <cor> yeah, backtrack
[03:14] <Irving> haha sounds like fun
[03:14] <cor> as well as the BT4 disc, they do criver patches for all the main chipsets
[03:14] <cor> *driver
[03:14] <cor> switch to monitor mode, the works.
[03:14] <ubuntu> ill have to look for this
[03:14] <ubuntu> sounds fun
[03:15] <cor> http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html
[03:16] <cor> Stick it on a USB stick or spare partition, handy.
[03:16] <cor> But even without special drivers, you can still do cool stuff like fake your WiFi's hardware MAC
[03:17] <cor> note: if you live close to a hospital/police/military base, boosting your WiFi levels might not be clever.
[03:17] <cor> But if you are in the middle of an urban sprawl, say hello to a whole new world of WiFi!
[03:18] <cor> Just don't get yer balls too close to the screen
[03:18] <cor> lol
[03:18] <cor> actually, WiFi radiation is miniscule compared to loads of other forms of radiation we've evolved to withstand
[03:18] <cor> still a good gag, though
[03:19] <ubuntu> lol
[03:20] <ubuntu> man
[03:20] <cor> That's the truly great thing about Linux, ant free OS. All those limits, all that stuff is software.
[03:20] <ubuntu> i love ubuntu in most any flavor
[03:20] <cor> there is a list somewhere says UK = 10dB, or whatever
[03:20] <ubuntu> but running this on a 24 inch imac
[03:20] <ubuntu> is really nice
[03:20] <cor> and there you have it, the source code, and a compiler. Feck them!
[03:20] <Irving> lol @ getting balls to close to screen
[03:21] <cor> 24"! that's absurb!
[03:21] <cor> Yum!
[03:21] <Irving> im loving the lack of limits in linux
[03:21] <ubuntu> lol
[03:21] <Irving> yes, nice screen size bud
[03:21] <ubuntu> my job gave me this thing
[03:21] <cor> NO LIMITS!
[03:21] <ubuntu> its a 24 inch core 2
[03:21] <ubuntu> 4 gigs of ram
[03:21] <ubuntu> its a nice box
[03:21] <cor> sorree, I just felt the need to shout that!
[03:21] <Irving> im on 20" widescreen, need to upgrade soon
[03:22] <cor> och, smaller screens, you just move em closer!
[03:22] <cor> be nice to have a real huge screen for movies, though
[03:22] <cor> in fact, for everything!
[03:22] <MAC-Kubuntu> ;)
[03:22] <iMAC-Kubuntu> ;)
[03:22] <aj_444> My volume doesn't work, and yes, I've checked, its not on mute.
[03:22] <cor> I'd like to compute from 12 feet!
[03:23] <cor> aj_444, hidden sliders?
[03:23] <iMAC-Kubuntu> ehh - who needs sound
[03:23] <iMAC-Kubuntu> so overrated
[03:23] <aj_444> cor: er.. whats that?
[03:23] <cor> right-click and select "channels"
[03:23] <aj_444> iMAC-Kubuntu: I'm guessing that was sarcasm?
[03:23] <cor> or in a shell, do: alsamixer
[03:24] <iMAC-Kubuntu> yes aj_444 ;)  sorry!
[03:24] <cor> ensure you have everything un/checked that needs to be
[03:24] <aj_444> cor: what needs to be checked?
[03:24] <cor> my sound card, for example, has a weird switch, with a weird name. but turn that thing off, and WHAM! no sound.
[03:24] <cor> no idea!
[03:25] <cor> right arrow right past the screen in alsamixer, there is always more sliders!
[03:25] <cor> keep going
[03:25] <cor> tab to switch to recording mixer, tab again for all
[03:25] <aj_444> cor: I went to that channels list under the sound.. and it was set to master? do I need to change that?
[03:26] <cor> "M" to switch stuff on and off
[03:26] <cor> aj_444, I don't understand that question
[03:26] <cor> what program are you in? for a start
[03:26] <aj_444> I right clicked on that little sound icon
[03:26] <Irving> ill be back in a bit, if your still on cor maybe you could help me through the rest of getting my network goin
[03:26] <aj_444> on the taskbar?
[03:26] <aj_444> hit master channels
[03:26] <cor> np Irving
[03:26] <cor> in the KDE kmix?
[03:27] <aj_444> yeah.
[03:27] <cor> right. just enable ALL the channels
[03:27] <cor> then back in the mixer itself, play around.
[03:27] <cor> if no dice, head to system settings > Multimedia
[03:27] <aj_444> Ha!  Got it working.
[03:27] <aj_444> thanks.
[03:27] <cor> TADA!
[03:28] <cor> ;o)
[03:37] <sadrolla> hi , i can not print my desktop on kde 4.3.1 on ubuntu 9.0.4 , pllz help me
[03:40] <cor> you can print your desktop? cool!
[03:41]  * cor tries that
[03:41] <cor> How do you do that?
[03:42] <sadrolla> i press key Alt+Print Screen , Ctrl+Prin... , no open any things
[03:42] <sadrolla> i open gimp an paste on into
[03:43] <sadrolla> and nothings
[03:43] <sadrolla> cor: can you help me ?
[03:46] <cor> Have you checked your global hotkeys?
[03:46] <cor> ensure the KWin gotkey for print screen is what you expect it to be
[03:47] <cor> *hotkey
[03:57] <webbb82> what is the differance between opengl and xrender
[03:59] <cor> xr = software
[03:59] <cor> nite dudes
[03:59] <shavelle> test
[04:00] <webbb82> cor what do u mean by xrender = software
[04:08] <webbb82> xrender is so much fAster
[04:09] <DaemonFC> it would be nice if Kubuntu used dmix by default
[04:10] <DaemonFC> I know I can't be the first person to have said that
[04:11] <Irving> are you here stil cor?
[04:11] <webbb82> how do i get dmix
[04:12] <DaemonFC> webbb82, I emailed myself the link, let me fish it out
[04:12] <DaemonFC> http://buglandia.blogspot.com/2007/08/howto-software-audio-mixing-in-ubuntu.html
[04:13] <DaemonFC> unless you go out and buy a $100 dedicated sound card with hardware mixing, Kubuntu will make you play the "What the #$%@ has a lock on ALSA!?!?" game
[04:13] <DaemonFC> dmix fixes that
[04:17] <webbb82> ok   how would it run on a netbook   thats why xrender is good for me
[04:25] <webbb82> when ever i try to add open desktop   it will crash plasma desktop
[04:37] <el> I changed my wireless card. Now on every boot udev renames the new interface to wlan1. Since the old card is not coming back, can I force the new interface to be called wlan0 again?
[04:54] <DaemonFC> VLC keeps telling me I don't have an MPEG-4 AAC encoder
[05:01] <nicolas> hello
[05:23] <albertiko> HELLOOOO
[05:23] <shadeslayer> albertiko: hello
[06:17] <Vinleg> help! firefox wont open with error message "Error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser"
[06:17] <Vinleg> what should i do?
[06:19] <genii> Vinleg: firefox -safe-mode from konsole. This usually happens when an extension doesn't work in your upgraded firefox. The -safe-mode loads it without the addons
[06:20] <Vinleg> it wont open, it still says the same thing
[06:21] <genii> Vinleg: Did you logout or restart the computer since last set of upgrades?
[06:22] <Vinleg> umm i upgraded the firefox using the KpackageKit, but it didnt ask to restart or anything, so i didnt
[06:23] <genii> Vinleg: Try just logoff back to kdm screen and login to desktop again and try to start it after that. I'll still be here when you get back
[06:24] <Vinleg> okay
[06:24]  * genii makes more coffee
[06:25] <harrison> Hi, I need some help getting a wacom tablet working with gimp
[06:26] <harrison> Does anyone know of a guide or a site which has some documentation
[06:26] <scm422> Greetings all! Anyone here help me out installing Frostwire or Limewire in Kubuntu 9.04?
[06:26] <genii> !frostwire
[06:27] <genii> scm422: Please see the bot's link
[06:27] <scm422> the bot's link?
[06:28] <harrison> !wacom
[06:28] <genii> !frostwire| scm422
[06:28] <scm422> ok thankyou!
[06:28] <genii> harrison: I haven't yet set one up, so not much help there, sorry.
[06:29] <genii> scm422: You're welcome
[06:29] <James147> harrison: what version of ubuntu are you useing? i have jaunty and my wacom worked out the box for me (needed to set it up in gimp is all)
[06:30] <Vinleg> hey back
[06:30] <genii> Vinleg: Welcome back :)
[06:30] <Vinleg> thanks for the help lol it's working now!
[06:30] <James147> harrison: just need to enable the device in gimp, for some reason they disable it by default
[06:30] <Vinleg> :) thanks
[06:30] <harrison> James147: It is working out of the box, I just don't know how to set it up in gimp. Also I would like to be able to change the settings with the wacom tools things
[06:30] <genii> Vinleg: You're welcome
[06:31] <Vinleg> btw genii do you have msn?
[06:31] <genii> Vinleg: Yes but never use it
[06:31] <genii> Vinleg: The surest way to reach me is here
[06:31] <Vinleg> ah lol, do you use any messenger?
[06:31] <genii> Vinleg: Not really
[06:31] <James147> harrison: in gimp - tools -> prefences -> imputdevices -> configure extended input devices
[06:32] <harrison> James147:  Ah thanks for that. I didn't see that they were disabled
[06:32] <James147> harrison: seleft the wacom from the device menu and enable it
[06:32] <Vinleg> ah lol, anyway thanks again for the help, it was ridiculous, i feel like an idiot :P
[06:32] <genii> :)
[06:33] <harrison> James147:  Do you know if wacom tools works out of the box ? I wanted to change the active area on the tablet
[06:33] <James147> harrison: not sure
[06:40] <rosco_y> Does anyone know of an ASP.NET Channel?
[06:41] <genii> rosco_y: Apparently theres an ##asp.net   channel here, though I've not been there
[06:59] <zebaztian> when i plugin the earplugs
[07:00] <zebaztian> there's still sound coming from the laptop speaker
[07:00] <zebaztian> how do iget it to hush while playing onthe earplugs
[07:05] <madberry> zebaztian: mute the front speakers
[07:05] <James147> zebaztian: need to add a line similar to "options snd-hda-intel model=MODEL" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  where MODEL is the model of your laptop listed in some alsa configs, cant remember where through :S
[07:06] <zebaztian> there's a sound the laptop emits when i plug or unplug the ac power chord i don't want it to do so
[07:06] <zebaztian> i don't want to wake her up
[07:14] <ubuntu_> Hello?
[07:15] <genii> Welcome. If you have some question please just ask, hopefully someone will take up the answer
[07:19] <ubuntu_> How to Install Adobe Flash Player For Konqueror 3.5.8?
[07:20] <ubuntu_> In a Live sesion
[07:21] <genii> !flash
[07:21] <genii> ubuntu_: Whether on livecd or embedded install it's the same
[07:21] <James147> zebaztian: For full instructions for your sound problem - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=DebuggingSoundProblems#Is%20ALSA%20using%20the%20correct%20model?
[07:21] <ubuntu_> Wow! Really thanks :D
[07:21] <madberry> !flash | ubuntu
[07:22] <madberry> oops to slow
[07:22]  * genii slides madberry a coffee
[07:22] <genii> ;)
[07:22] <madberry> lol
[07:27] <zebaztian> i am having trouble getting my w595 SE phone to connect to jaunty
[07:28] <zebaztian> is there a way to load files onto it via bluetooth?
[07:28] <James147> zebaztian: kdebluetooth (should load in systry by deafult if you have a bluetooh device)
[07:29] <zebaztian> on hte phone or on the laptop?
[07:29] <zebaztian> how do i check if ihave a device for bluetooth on the laptop
[07:29] <James147> zebaztian: laptop,
[07:30] <James147> zebaztian: if kdebluetooth dosent load by default i would say its doubtful, not sure how to check though
[07:30] <madberry> !bluetooth | zebaztian
[07:33] <zebaztian> hardy detected my phone mass storage connection
[07:33] <zebaztian> jaunty doesnt
[07:33] <zebaztian> what can i do without having to reinstall
[07:36] <ayensis> I have a problem too. shiretoko crashs erverytime I try to maximize the window of  a video playing by the flashplayer.
[07:36] <DaemonFC> KDE just DRM'd Last.FM
[07:37] <DaemonFC> by enforcing their paywall with the version of Amarok released just now
[07:37] <ayensis> like youtube.com
[07:37] <DaemonFC> being locked out is one thing
[07:37] <DaemonFC> voluntarily selling out your users is another
[07:38] <ayensis> anybody having the same problem?
[07:39] <James147> DaemonFC: you have a source for that statement? Would like to read it
[07:39] <DaemonFC> yes
[07:39] <DaemonFC> Amarok until today's upgrade let me connect to Last.FM
[07:40] <DaemonFC> immediately following the "upgrade", it now asks me to pay Last.FM for a subscription
[07:40] <DaemonFC> I fail to see how it worked, then immediately after the upgrade, like 5 seconds later, it's hitting me up for money
[07:40] <DaemonFC> unless that's anything other than deliberate
[07:40] <zebaztian> to open /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules what do i do? sudo kate?
[07:41] <DaemonFC> is there a way to roll back packages in Kubuntu?
[07:41] <James147> DaemonFC: what version of amarok?
[07:41] <genii> zebaztian: kdesudo kate /etc/wherever
[07:41] <DaemonFC> James147: 2.1.80 starts enforcing the paywall
[07:41] <DaemonFC> earlier versions will play the streams just fine
[07:42] <darthanubis> i have 2.1.1. where you get 2.1.8?
[07:42] <ayensis> yeah, but I want the latest ff version.
[07:43] <darthanubis> everyone should have that
[07:43] <darthanubis> or add mozilla's ppa?
[07:44] <James147> DaemonFC: How did you install it? nether my karmic or jaunty install are up to 2.1.80 yet :S
[07:45] <ayensis> what do you mean with  "i have 2.1.1. where you get 2.1.8?" ??
[07:45] <genii> DaemonFC , James147 ... some info on the DRM thing, seems it's on last.fm's side http://www.last.fm/group/Amarok+Users/forum/18538/_/517903
[07:45] <DaemonFC> genii: It's not
[07:45] <DaemonFC> I jsut signed in on my other PC that hasn't been upgraded to Amarok 2.1.80
[07:46] <ayensis> shiretoko => version 3.5.3
[07:46] <DaemonFC> it still plays Last.FM while 2.1.80 asks me for money
[07:47] <James147> DaemonFC: From that like I see why they have done it, looks like last.fm is changing the way they work, requiring ppl to pay :( thus the latest amarok is preparing for this change
[07:48] <DaemonFC> Banshee already has a patch which reswtores Last.FM access
[07:48] <James147> DaemonFC: my guess is older version will have problems with last.fm when they change over to the new method, which is a real shame :(
[07:48] <DaemonFC> they already changed to API 2.0 earlier this year
[07:48] <DaemonFC> in April I think
[07:49] <James147> DaemonFC:  http://blog.last.fm/2009/03/24/lastfm-radio-announcement  - should still be free in US, UK germany according that this
[07:55] <zebaztian> help, i want to open /etc/udev/rules.d with privileges on the gui from the terminal, what do i have to type?
[07:55] <DaemonFC> James147: I'm in the US
[07:55] <DaemonFC> it's still blocking me
[07:56] <genii> zebaztian: We went through this already.   kdesudo kate /etc/udev/filename        <-- substitute file name accordingly
[07:56] <zebaztian> genii,  but what i want to open this time is the folder
[07:56] <zebaztian> not the file
[07:57] <zebaztian> i am on the gui
[07:57] <zebaztian> i need to paste some files onto that folder
[07:57] <zebaztian> but i don't have root privileges adn i don't know how to get them on the gui
[07:58] <James147> DaemonFC: hmm, just upgraded looks llike i cant either (in uk), alhtough its not given me an error message yet, or asked me to pay
[07:58] <genii> zebaztian: Same principle applies. kdesudo dolphin                   or so on
[07:59] <DaemonFC> hmmm, parasiteware on Linux now
[07:59] <DaemonFC> I'm used to this kind of crap tagging along in Windows Media Player
[07:59] <James147> zebaztian: kdesudo GUIPROGRAM  will open GUIPROGRAM as root useing your local user password
[08:01] <James147> DaemonFC: I hope, really really hope, that its cos its still beta and they just havent finished it yet (corsses fingers).... pity that dosent explain why it broke in the first place (new authentication methods to sopport payment maby?)
[08:01] <DaemonFC> James147: they got greedy
[08:02] <DaemonFC> I could have understood requiring third party clients to implement the "Buy this track" button
[08:02] <DaemonFC> which is apparently where Last.FM's hangup was in the first place
[08:03] <navetz> can someone help me fix my sound in flash? its weird, it was working periodically, then it stopped. Then I upgraded my alsa drivers to try to fix it but it did not help. Does anyone know what the issue might be?
[08:03] <DaemonFC> navetz: You didn't try installing Pulseaudio did you?
[08:04] <James147> DaemonFC: When did it ask you to subscribe? cant find that option anywhere or get it to give me one :S
[08:06] <DaemonFC> James147: Add your station to the playlist and double click it
[08:06] <James147> DaemonFC: ahh, in status bar :S,
[08:06] <DaemonFC> isntead of starting the stream, it pops up a message in the bottom of the window
[08:07] <DaemonFC> speaking of Amarok, fetching album art has been busted for weeks
[08:09] <navetz> DaemonFC: It was installed by default for me
[08:09] <navetz> DaemonFC: I have HAD intel and pulseaudio
[08:10] <DaemonFC> navetz: I don't have anything polite to say about Pulseaudio
[08:10] <navetz> DaemonFC: I have HAD intel and pulseaudio, had intel always fails. Before jaunty I would always have to recompile my sound drivers to get it to work
[08:10] <DaemonFC> the words I have to say about it would get me kickbanned from this room
[08:10] <DaemonFC> I avoid it and use dmix
[08:10] <mostafa_> can anyone give me the link how to mount partitions manually with editing the fstab?
[08:10] <navetz> DaemonFC: its the only thing thing that works for me :(
[08:10] <navetz> DaemonFC: any idea why flash might not like it?
[08:11] <DaemonFC> navetz: dmix works better for software mixing
[08:11] <DaemonFC> unless you like redirecting audio streams to other computers and stuff you don't need Pulseaudio
[08:11] <DaemonFC> Pulseaudio causes three problems for every one it fixes
[08:12] <navetz> DaemonFC: err okay, is dmix a package?
[08:12] <DaemonFC> no, it's built into ALSA
[08:13] <DaemonFC> you just need to configure the system to use it
[08:13] <DaemonFC> it's real easy
[08:13] <navetz> in my system settings it only shows three options: HDA Intel - Pulseaudio - Esound
[08:14] <DaemonFC> http://buglandia.blogspot.com/2007/08/howto-software-audio-mixing-in-ubuntu.html
[08:14] <DaemonFC> navetz: Ditch Pulseaudio and just put your sound card at the top of the Phonon lists
[08:14] <DaemonFC> then configure the system to use dmix
[08:15] <navetz> DaemonFC: hum i'm not to experienced with this. Where is the Phonon list?
[08:15] <DaemonFC> navetz: Should be in the KDE control center under "Multimedia"
[08:16] <DaemonFC> just highlight your sound card on every item in the "Playback" category and hit "Prefer" til it's on the top of all lists
[08:16] <navetz> DaemonFC: thats where I am and I do have HAD Intel (my card I think) at the top of all the lists
[08:16] <navetz> how do I configure dmix?
[08:16] <navetz> is there a guide?
[08:16] <DaemonFC> that link I posted says how to
[08:17] <DaemonFC> paste the text it says to into your /etc/asound.conf in a text editor and save it
[08:17] <navetz> ahh didn't notice that, thank you
[08:17] <DaemonFC> then log out and in and it should be using it
[08:18] <DaemonFC> you need to have administrator priveleges to edit that file though
[08:18] <DaemonFC> so use "sudo kate /etc/asound.conf", paste that stuff in, and hit save
[08:18] <DaemonFC> the file should be blank
[08:18] <genii> kdesudo and not just sudo
[08:19] <DaemonFC> I always start the text editor from the terminal, and I usually use Nano
[08:19] <DaemonFC> that's why I said sudo, hehe
[08:19] <DaemonFC> navetz: I'd suggest removing pulseaudio packages one at a time to make sure it doesn't rip out anything important along with it
[08:20] <DaemonFC> nothing like accidentally removing half your system while trying to get rid of one annoying item
[08:20] <DaemonFC> there's a couple Pulseaudio packages that some important parts of the KDE desktop depend on iirc
[08:21] <DaemonFC> save for future reference though that if something wants to bring in Pulseaudio, that's your cue to run away
[08:22] <DaemonFC> Pulseaudio tries to do "everything" a sound server can and gets it all jsut a little wrong
[08:22] <DaemonFC> if all you need is sound mixing, you're best off getting a card that can do it in hardware, and failing that, using dmix
[08:22] <DaemonFC> I wouldn't go out and spend $100 just for hardware mixing
[08:24] <anfi_> moep
[08:24] <DaemonFC> there's better upgrades you can get with that $100, like a nicer video card or more RAM
[08:24] <navetz> DaemonFC: I have a laptop so i'm not sure if a sound upgrade will be the best option for me
[08:25] <navetz> DaemonFC: this guide says to restart. Does that mean the sound server (and if so how) or the whole computer
[08:25] <DaemonFC> navetz: logging out and in would probably do it
[08:26] <DaemonFC> restarting the computer definitely will
[08:26] <navetz> DaemonFC: alright thanks, i'm gonna give it a try
[08:36] <navetz> humm okay
[08:36] <navetz> flash is working, but its the first thing i opened
[08:36] <Gamarok__> bonjour
[08:36] <James147> DaemonFC: Trying to find out why last.fm stoped working for 2.1.80 in #amarok
[08:36] <navetz> and now amarok and other sound does not work
[08:38] <James147> DaemonFC: not much luck yet :(
[08:38] <DaemonFC> James147: I wasn't thrilled about that
[08:38] <DaemonFC> the Last.FM people could have been much more reaonable
[08:39] <navetz> DaemonFC: it seems I can still only run one sound application at a time :9
[08:39] <navetz> :(
[08:39] <DaemonFC> hmmm
[08:40] <mostafa_> I wanna write the command that copy the current address to other place what should I do?
[08:41] <navetz> mostafa_: pwd > somefile
[08:42] <navetz> that will write your address to a file called somefile
[08:42] <mostafa_> navetz: can you give me an example dude?
[08:43] <navetz> mostafa_: err I think I just did: the command pwd will give you the path to whatever folder you're in
[08:43] <navetz> > will take the output and put it somewhere
[08:43] <navetz> > somefile will take the result from pwd and put it in a new file called somefile
[08:45] <James147> DaemonFC: had one person hint that is because amarok wont display last.fm's ads :S
[08:46] <mostafa_> navetz: just a simple one for not wasting your time
[08:46] <navetz> mostafa_: umm okay do this
[08:47] <navetz> open a terminal
[08:47] <navetz> (konsol_
[08:47] <navetz> konsol **
[08:47] <mostafa_> ok
[08:47] <navetz> type cd ~
[08:47] <mostafa_> ok
[08:47] <navetz> then type pwd
[08:47] <navetz> sorry
[08:47] <FloodBotK1> navetz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <navetz> echo pwd
[08:47] <mostafa_> ok
[08:47] <navetz> do you see your path?
[08:48] <mostafa_> yeah
[08:48] <navetz> get rid of echo I dunno what i was thinking. Now type: pwd >> FILE
[08:48] <mostafa_> for example my file name is test
[08:49] <navetz> okay so do pwd >> test
[08:49] <mostafa_> in this address /media/volume/test
[08:49] <mostafa_> then i should go to that address and type this
[08:49] <mostafa_> ?
[08:49] <navetz> okay,  pwd >> /media/volume/test
[08:49] <navetz> you could also go to that address, whatever you like
[08:49] <mostafa_> ok
[08:50] <mostafa_> navetz: let me check
[08:50] <shrey> is it necessage to install source code when we r installing from a PPA.
[08:50] <navetz> mostafa_: okay
[08:53] <mostafa_> navetz: I check it
[08:53] <navetz> mostafa_: good?
[08:53] <mostafa_> navetz: nothing happens when I type that command
[08:53] <mostafa_> navetz: I go to the address and type pwd>>test
[08:54] <mostafa_> but nothing happend
[08:54] <navetz> mostafa_: did you look in the file called test?
[08:55] <mostafa_> navetz: no you mean it copies sth in that file?
[08:55] <navetz> what is sth?
[08:55] <mostafa_> navetz: sth=something yeah it copies the address
[08:55] <mostafa_> ;)
[08:56] <mostafa_> ok then how to copy?
[08:56] <navetz> copy what?
[08:57] <mostafa_> navetz: I mean for example I want "test" file in this address /media/voume2/copy
[08:58] <mostafa_> navetz: and all of this procedure should be done by command
[08:58] <navetz> mostafa_: cp /media/volume/test /media/volume2/copy
[08:59] <mostafa_> navetz: excuse me dude but I want to do this with a script then how could I know the address of "test"?
[09:00] <mostafa_> navetz: let me told you the situation
[09:01] <mostafa_> navetz: I have a file in a folder then I want to write a script that copies that file to a defined folder
[09:02] <mostafa_> navetz: but the folder that contain the script and the file may be copied to somewhere else and so I lost the address of "test" file
[09:03] <mostafa_> navetz: is it clear?
[09:04] <James147> mostafa_: why do you need the address? why not just use cp?
[09:05] <mostafa_> James147: if I use cp I need the source and the dest address
[09:06] <mostafa_> James147: the desti address is good and having no problem with that
[09:07] <mostafa_> James147: but the source is a little hard to define because if you copy the folder to somewhere else how could I know the address and put that address into the cp command?
[09:07] <James147> mostafa_: cp ./FILE /path/to/dest    ./ means current directory
[09:08] <James147> mostafa_: so wherever you are currently located the file FILE will be moved to the dest
[09:08] <mostafa_> James147: really? thank you very much
[09:08] <mostafa_> ;)
[09:08] <mostafa_> James147: just let me check
[09:09] <James147> mostafa_: ~/ is also useful, it means the current users home directory (ie for me ~/ is like /home/james/
[09:10] <mostafa_> James147: thanx I know this and I also use the ./ for my programs but I don't know what the real meaning of ./ is :D I think ./ means executable application
[09:10] <mostafa_> :D
[09:12] <mostafa_> James147: very nice thank you ;)
[09:12] <James147> mostafa_: no, it can be used anywhere to mean current directory, most the time it is ignored for files since if the path of the file dosent start with / it is takeen to mean a relitive path
[09:12] <mostafa_> navetz: thank you too for your good response
[09:12] <James147> mostafa_: also ../ means parent directory
[09:14] <mostafa_> James147: can you give me an example for parent dir?
[09:14] <James147> mostafa_: if i am in say, /home/james/documents   and i do cd ../  (cd is change directory) i would end up in /home/james
[09:15] <mostafa_> James147: if you type "cd .." it does the work
[09:15] <James147> mostafa_: if i did cd ../../ from /home/james/documents  i would end up in /home
[09:16] <James147> mostafa_: but the / is needed if you want to access a file or folder
[09:16] <James147> mostafa_: ie from /home/james/documents  i can do cd ../music  and end up in /home/james/music
[09:17] <mostafa_> James147: very good really thank you for the second and third usage you just told me
[09:17] <James147> mostafa_: the difference between . and ./ is the same difference beween writing /home and /home/
[09:18] <James147> mostafa_: . and .. are treated like existing directory as far as i know (things like ls -a will list . and ..) and so can be used like directorys
[09:19] <mostafa_> James147: yeah you're right
[09:22] <mostafa_> James147: how could I type "space" in the command line
[09:22] <mostafa_> ?
[09:22] <James147> mostafa_: you mean in paths?
[09:23] <mostafa_> James147: yeah, my folder name is for example "test test"?
[09:24] <James147> mostafa_: you can escape spaces with \ (backslash)  ie cd ~/Folder\ with\ spaces
[09:24] <mostafa_> James147: thanks ;)
[09:24] <James147> mostafa_:  or include the path in quotes ie cd "~/Folder with spaces"
[09:25] <mostafa_> James147: cool
[09:33] <mostafa_> James147: I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?
[09:49] <anfi_> Wer weiss wie man Online demonstriert?
[09:50] <anfi_> fck
[09:50] <James147> mostafa_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269632/  -< simple script asking the user a yes no question
[09:50] <genii> !de | anfi_
[09:51] <anfi_> thanky bot!
[09:54] <mostafa_> James147: very nice of you man you are so generous I appreciate you be lucky in your life :-*
[10:03] <mostafa_> James147: how could I make 2 folders in a specified address for example ~/Document?
[10:04] <shrey> hey when i press ctrl+alt+f1 i m in konsole mode. But how to come back to KDE mode ?
[10:04] <James147> mostafa_: A better version of the above script: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269644/
[10:05] <James147> mostafa_: mkdir DIR  makes a directory called DIR
[10:05] <navetz> does anyone here know how to get my audio in jaunty working with multiple applications?
[10:05] <navetz> when I run amarok i can't use flash
[10:05] <navetz> when i use flash
[10:06] <navetz> i cant use amarok or any other system sounds
[10:06] <James147> mostafa_: eg mkdir ~/Documents/NewFolder
[10:06] <mostafa_> James147: you are right but I want to make two DIR
[10:06] <James147> shrey: alt + ctrl + F7
[10:06] <shrey> Karmic is Gnome or KDE ? i m using Kubuntu KDE so should i switch to Karmic, if yes than why?
[10:07] <James147> mostafa_: then run mkdir twice
[10:07] <shrey> James147: Thanks.
[10:08] <mostafa_> James147: no way to run it once
[10:08] <James147> mostafa_: not that i am aware of, is there any reason you cannot run it twice?
[10:09] <James147> shrey: Dont switch to karmic unless you want to test/ debug/ develop under it or just want to run the lasest (and buggy/crash prone software)
[10:09] <mostafa_> James147: no as a matter of fact I cd to the directory and type this command
[10:09] <mostafa_> James147: "mkdir test1 test2 test3" and it does me the work
[10:10] <shrey> James147: thanks...than i think i m gud with Kubuntu.
[10:10] <James147> shrey:  and karmic has both KDE4.3.1 and Gnome (like all version of ubuntu/kubuntu) kubuntu comes with kde by default and ubuntu comes with gnome by default
[10:10] <mostafa_> James147: but I want to do this work just by one command line
[10:10] <mostafa_> James147: and of course thanks for your updated version
[10:11] <mostafa_> ;)
[10:11] <MadAGu> goodmorning guys i have a question: i can't click youtube buttons when i have kde+compiz activated... anyone knows anything?
[10:11] <James147> mostafa_:  you are right, mkdir test1 test2 test3   dose work
[10:12] <mostafa_> James147: np ;) ok  now is there any way to make these DIRs just by one command in the specified address?
[10:14] <James147> mostafa_: mkdir test1 test2 test3      <- either prefix them with the path or do cd path beforehand (or run it form the working directory)
[10:15] <mostafa_> James147: thnx I think cd is the best way
[10:15] <mostafa_> :D
[10:19] <mostafa_> James147: in your updated version if the user answer yes "y" then I want to restart  ie. "sudo shutdown -r now"
[10:19] <mostafa_> James147: then just add this command
[10:19] <mostafa_> between the echo and break?
[10:19] <mostafa_> James147: am I right?
[10:20] <James147> mostafa_: yes
[10:20] <mostafa_> James147: thnx
[10:21] <James147> mostafa_: you may want to replace break with exit 0  (exits th script) if there is nothing else to be done
[10:21] <James147> mostafa_: and remember you can change the echo commands to represnt what is actually happening or remove them
[10:22] <mostafa_> James147: yeah really thank you
[10:22] <James147> mostafa_:  no problem
[10:30] <mostafa_> James147: when I type this command "sudo cat test>>/etc/fstab"it syas permission denied what is my problem?
[10:32] <david_> hi there. i have courier installed and was wondering what (if anything) else id need to get "push email" working?
[10:32] <david_> or is imapd enough?
[10:32] <James147> mostafa_: cant append to /etc/fstab  not sure why have to edit it useing and editor like nano vim or kate
[10:33] <mostafa_> James147: how could I change that via script?
[10:34] <James147> mostafa_: may i ask... what is this script ment to be doing?
[10:34] <mostafa_> James147: this is the real script
[10:35] <mostafa_> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269661/
[10:35] <mostafa_> James147: now you know what I am doing?
[10:35] <mostafa_> :D
[10:36] <James147> mostafa_: trying to mount a partition?
[10:36] <mostafa_> yeah
[10:36] <James147> mostafa_: is it a fixed partition?
[10:37] <mostafa_> James147: as a matter of fact my NTFS partitions does not work in Karmic and I must mount them manually
[10:37] <James147> mostafa_: why dont you just add the line to /etc/fstab?
[10:38] <James147> mostafa_: there is no need for a script to edit /etc/fstab every time you want to mount
[10:38] <mostafa_> James147: np but I want to do this concatination by command
[10:39] <mostafa_> James147: yeah you are right but I need the script to do not to do it manually
[10:39] <James147> mostafa_: all you really need to do is edit /etc/fstab once and add the drive you want to mount to it, create the directorys to mount to once
[10:40] <James147> mostafa_: you can add the option noauto  to drives in /etc/fstab to stop them being mounted at boot and by sudo mount -a
[10:41] <James147> mostafa_: then you just have to type sudo mount /media/Windows   or sudo mount /dev/sdXX (where /dev/sdXX is the drive) and you can combine noauto with user to allow users to mount and unmount the drive
[10:41] <mostafa_> James147: very nice thanks.
[10:42] <mostafa_> James147: it means that there is no way to change /etc/fstab via command?
[10:44] <James147> mostafa_: sudo nano /etc/fstab  open the nano editor (a command line text editor)
[10:44] <James147> mostafa_: but kdesudo kate /etc/fstab  is easier to use
[10:45] <mostafa_> James147: yeah I used kate
[10:45] <mostafa_> James147: but I want to attach a text file that lists our partitions to /etc/fstab
[10:46] <James147> mostafa_: copy and paste? (you can copy and paste in konsole with ctrl+shift+c/v)
[10:47] <mostafa_> James147: yeah I know but I don't want to do anything because I must do it in a way that no one can watch my doings
[10:48] <mostafa_> this is my file to concat to /etc/fstab http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269667/
[10:49] <mostafa_> James147: I have to do it in such way
[10:49] <smog88> #thegossip
[10:49] <James147> mostafa_: makes no sence to me :S dont seen the need to hide that data and i know of no way to do it with /etc/fstab
[10:50] <James147> mostafa_: but you can create a script to just mount them when you want to
[10:50] <James147> mostafa_: rather then editing /etc/fstab just use the mount sommand
[10:51] <mostafa_> James147: thanks dude you are so patient to bear my questions you are a good man
[10:51] <James147> mostafa_: no problem
[10:51] <mostafa_> James147: but anyhow you don't answer my private question :D
[10:52] <James147> mostafa_: there was a private question?
[10:53] <mostafa_> what is your IRC software?
[10:53] <James147> mostafa_: quassel
[10:54] <mostafa_> James147: :-o Me 2. then how don't you get my private messages?
[10:56] <James147> mostafa_: dont know
[10:56] <mostafa_> James147: from the nicks column in Quassel pick my nick out and double click on it then type sth for me
[10:56] <James147> mostafa_: isent there :S
[11:09] <apparle> I got a message something like 'compositing was too low and has been suspended' now all the desktop effects off....how to turn them on
[11:09] <madberry> alt+shift+f12
[11:10] <apparle> madberry: but its not working....nothing happens
[11:10] <madberry> your screen desn't go black?
[11:10] <apparle> madberry: nothing happens
[11:11] <madberry> try a reboot
[11:11] <apparle> madberry: I know reboor works but isn't there any direct way
[11:12] <madberry> alt+shift+f12 is the only way to do it from the desktop.
[11:12] <madberry> !compiz | apparle
[11:13] <madberry> there you will find the answer
[11:13] <madberry> back to cloak mode
[11:13] <James147> apparle: i think there is a button in system settings under display where you can toggle it on
[11:14] <James147> apparle: sorry, desktop
[11:14] <darkwizard> Hi
[11:14] <apparle> James147: you mean the 'enable desktop effects'
[11:15] <James147> apparle: in kde4.3 where is suspend compositing button (and resume if suspended)
[11:15] <darkwizard> 	
[11:15] <darkwizard> how to disable kubuntu kwin?
[11:15] <James147> apparle: not sure about eairler version
[11:15] <darkwizard> 	
[11:15] <darkwizard> how to disable kubuntu kwin?
[11:15] <FloodBotK1> darkwizard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <apparle> James147: ok
[11:16] <apparle> darkwizard: goto System settings>Desktop>and remove enable desktop effects tick mark
[11:16] <apparle> how to solve this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269684/
[11:23] <apparle> madberry: found nothing on the lik
[11:56] <Peace-> guys for automatic audio preview
[11:56] <Peace-> what should i modify ?
[11:56] <Peace-> on the file manager i mean
[12:50] <gintulis> laba diena
[13:01] <ianharper> hi were is the pakage manager in kubuntu
[13:01] <Dragnslcr> It's called KPackageKit
[13:02] <ianharper> cool thanks
[13:03] <ianharper> do i download things that say install for ubuntu
[13:03] <Dragnslcr> Should be in the System menu as Software Management
[13:03] <Dragnslcr> Yes, you can install Gnome programs
[13:05] <ianharper> cool
[13:09] <DaemonFC> you *can* install GNOME applications, but it's sloppy sometimes and brings in a whole bunch of GNOME packages
[13:10] <DaemonFC> Firefox brings in all kinds of weird stuff
[13:20] <frustphil> hi, is there a koffice 2.1 ppa package for karmic?
[13:35] <martijn81> how do i get my computer icons on my desktop under kde4?
[13:46] <martijn81> nobody?
[14:31] <nasrullah> hi
[14:34] <nasrullah>  i have downloaded google earth 5 but not able to install it .....i get error md5 checksums..your help pls
[14:36] <maximouse> Hello - I am trying to use kmobile tools to connect to a blackberry - the documentation didnt install (sure I did something wrong here) but when I went online I couldn't find what I was looking for either - can someone point me in the right direction please
[14:43] <nasrullah> hoaw to install google earth 5
[15:27] <zebaztian> hey, when i plug or unplug the ac from and to my laptop there's a notice and it has a sound, i wish it not to emit that sound, how can i best alter this?
[15:30] <da> #autism
[15:30] <ikonia> da: ?
[15:38] <peterr> hi
[15:38] <genii> Welcome
[15:38] <peterr> can't find an answer to my question on the web
[15:38] <peterr> so tought I'd try here
[15:39] <genii> !ask
[15:39] <peterr> ok
[15:39] <peterr> sorry
[15:40] <peterr> how do I find out what wifi card (wifi adapter) i have in my laptop?
[15:41] <genii> peterr: Usually the details will be in the result of the command: lspci       or: lsusb     (depending on the type of card)
[15:45] <genii> peterr: (these are commands you type inside Konsole )
[15:45] <peterr> genii: thanks. I have tried your suggestions, but the information is not clear for me. What I want to know is whether it is 802.11b/g WLAN or (doubtful) 802.11n
[15:45] <peterr>  I want to know is whether it is 802.11b/g WLAN or (doubtful) 802.11n
[15:46] <genii> peterr: You can also get much more extensive info from the result of:  sudo lshw -C network
[15:46] <peterr> genii: ok
[15:48] <shadeslayer> peterr: what card?
[15:50] <ikonia> peterr: only a few intel cards have n compatability and it's weak support to be honest
[15:51] <da> does anyone here, know me?
[15:53] <peterr> shadeslayer: genii: thank you. solved
[15:54] <peterr> ikonia: thanks
[15:54] <ikonia> da: what do you want ?
[15:56] <shadeslayer> hes gone
[15:56] <geronimo_> Hello everybody, I need some wlan help
[15:57] <geronimo_> Got an asus  pro 79io, don't know what card there is in it
[15:57] <peterr> just ask, don't ask to ask - that's what i have been told
[15:57] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: see the o/p of lspci
[15:58] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: for the card no. that is
[15:58] <geronimo_> 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless NetworkAdapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[15:58] <geronimo_> hm, atheros
[15:58] <geronimo_> I tried to load the ath_pci module through modprobe, but I guess that didn't help
[15:58] <shadeslayer> lets see...
[15:58] <shadeslayer> !atheros
[15:59] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: ^^
[16:01] <peterr> my card is gb enabled, and i want to bye an N router. it will work on g protocol, i know. the price is similar. should i decide to bye a g router anyway?
[16:01] <geronimo_> shadeslayer: thanks, does this ndiswrapper stuff still work? Like using the windows inf files?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: if its in the wiki,probably
[16:02] <geronimo_> the specific chip is not in the wiki
[16:02] <genii> peterr: If you can get an N router for comparable cost then later you can always find some N card which might work with it also, is my take
[16:02] <shadeslayer> oh..
[16:03] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: whats the problem you are facing?
[16:03] <geronimo_> the device does not appear
[16:03] <peterr> genii: ok. My problem is whether there are some obvious problems i may encounter with an N router and so should simply choose a G one
[16:04] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: ok,thats easy : sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[16:04] <peterr> perhaps N will make my life harder, or will it not?
[16:05] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: then run the same command with down replaced by up (assuming wlan0 is the wifi card)
[16:05] <genii> peterr: I'm using a Draft N DLink here and it just uses whichever protocol it finds your card can use (b,g, whatever)
[16:05] <geronimo_> shadeslayer: no device called wlan0
[16:05] <geronimo_> shadeslayer: only eth0, ung and lo
[16:05] <shadeslayer> geronimo_: see the o/p of ifconfig for the card name
[16:05] <peterr> genii: ok. I am thinking  about  Linksys
[16:05] <shadeslayer> what could ung be
[16:05] <geronimo_> ifconfig -a shows a pan0 interface
[16:06] <shadeslayer> thats probably bluetooth
[16:06] <geronimo_> I don't think so, I've got a dongle shipped with it, like usb-dongle
[16:07] <genii> peterr: Linksys/Cisco makes pretty good stuff, I'd feel comfortable getting an N version
[16:07] <shadeslayer> oh... try all the devices in ifconfig and see if any of them works
[16:07] <peterr> genii: thank you
[16:07] <genii> peterr: You're welcome
[16:07] <peterr> bye everyone
[16:08] <shadeslayer> bye
[16:08] <peterr> have a nice one
[16:08] <geronimo_> shadeslayer: I can put it "up" the pan0 one
[16:09] <geronimo_> shadeslayer: but the iwconfig tells me that pan0 has no wireless extensions
[16:10] <genii> pan0 is usually an ad-hoc type network connection it makes with bluetooth
[16:12] <geronimo_> the wireless led doesn't work either
[16:12] <geronimo_> but I guess it's part of the driver problem
[16:13] <robin0800> ​try lspci to find the card
[16:13] <Zoinhodeboa> como faço para procurar novos canais
[16:13] <shadeslayer> robin0800: we already have the card,its an atheros
[16:13] <geronimo_> robin0800: I found the card, but there is not much information on the net
[16:16] <geronimo_> robin0800: it' a 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[16:16] <robin0800> geronimo_: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=linux+atheros&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[16:17] <geronimo_> just found a thread in the ubuntu forum
[16:18] <genii> geronimo_: The vendor:device code returned from using   lspci -nn      can also be useful for googling
[16:24] <geronimo_> sorry everybody ksnapshot repeatedly opened itself 100 times, had to kill kdm
[16:29] <ahmos> hi , i wanna remove dragon player but it asks me to remove kubuntu desktop too for dependencies , so how to safely remove it
[16:30] <phh> ahmos: no way
[16:31] <ahmos> oh
[16:31] <ahmos> bizzare
[16:31] <phh> ahmos: it's stupid to remove dragon player anyway for safe utilisation
[16:32] <ahmos> it don't work correctly so i wanted to reinstall it
[16:33] <phh> reinstall is almost never a solution ...
[16:34] <phh> ahmos: what's your troubles ?
[16:34] <ahmos> i get this from terminal while trying to play a video QCoreApplication::postEvent: Unexpected null receiver
[16:35] <martijn81> how do i get webkit in konqueror running?
[16:35] <phh> ahmos: doesn't really seems to be an error
[16:35] <phh> martijn81: you just can't
[16:35] <ahmos> so what to do
[16:36] <martijn81> phh: what is this package webkitkde then for?
[16:36] <phh> ahmos: it just won't start ?
[16:36] <phh> martijn81: juste a Q&D hack
[16:36] <phh> -e
[16:36] <ahmos> it starts but whith a transparent window
[16:36] <phh> and for proper applications using kparts
[16:36] <martijn81> which means?
[16:37] <phh> martijn81: many features won't work
[16:37] <martijn81> phh: they are not that far yet?
[16:37] <phh> if you really want webkit in konqueror, go in the display menu -> display type -> webkit
[16:38] <Guest6866> Hello! Some minutes ago I bought 2GB of ram but Kubuntu only shows 1,7 GB (command free and system monitor). The BIOS however shows 2048 GB. Is there an error or is it OK?
[16:38] <cuznt> libcurl.x86_64 <~~ how do i get that?
[16:38] <cuznt> please
[16:38] <phh> Guest6866: on 32bits ?
[16:38] <Guest6866> phh: yes
[16:38] <ahmos> Guest6866 i thinkit's okay
[16:40] <ahmos> so any  solution phh
[16:40] <phh> ahmos: transparent windows can be set with left mouse button on the titlebar => opacity ...
[16:40] <Guest6866> ahmos: it's strange because on another mashine Kubuntu shows the correct ammount of RAM: 1024
[16:40] <James147> cuznt: My guess would be sudo aptitude install libcurl3
[16:41] <cuznt> nope
[16:41] <phh> Guest6866: big memory in 32bits is big troubles to manage for the kernel
[16:41] <cuznt> E: Invalid operation libcurl.x86_64
[16:41] <James147> cuznt: when running what?
[16:42] <Guest6866> phh: 2GB? I thought the limit for x86 mashines was 4GB.
[16:42] <phh> Guest6866: the total amount of managed memory is 4GB yup, but there is stuff like virtual memory
[16:42] <phh> pci card mapping
[16:42] <phh> kernel memory space
[16:42] <phh> and so on
[16:42] <FloodBotK1> phh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <Guest6866> phh: I know. I'm speaking of the physical memory, the 2GB RAM-brick I've bought just some minutes ago.
[16:43] <phh> Guest6866: the 4GB limit is for the total memory, not the physical one, that's why such trouble may happen
[16:43] <cuznt> konsole
[16:44] <cuznt> or synaptic package
[16:44] <phh> martijn81: just tried webkit in konqueror, i don't even get javascript working...
[16:45] <Guest6866> phh: does the swap-partition also count as virtual memory?
[16:45] <phh> martijn81: if you want some webkit based browser, you can try rekonq (but you'll need to build it by yourself), it tries to integrate with KDE
[16:45] <phh> Guest6866: no
[16:46] <Guest6866> phh: Then it's strange. Even the memtest does show only 1790MB.
[16:47] <phh> Guest6866: shared memory with graphic card ?
[16:47] <ahmos> i think so too it is a shared memory
[16:47] <Guest6866> phh: Could be. It's a netbook.
[16:48] <Guest6866> phh: I'll check it. Just a minute please.
[16:55] <Guest6866> phh: Thanks a lot. It's the shared memory. I didn't know that it is reserved right from the beginning. I've allways thought it would be reserved dynamically.
[16:56] <ahmos> and if your bios support it you can change the amount of ram to be reserved
[16:59] <snowrichard> hi
[17:08] <cuznt> i am trying to install Adobe-flash 64 bit and am having difficulties
[17:09] <shadeslayer> cuznt: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:14] <BluesKaj> howdy
[17:22] <gintulis> how to enable ctrl+alt+backspace in kubuntu?
[17:32] <robin0800> gintulis: dontzap = false
[17:54] <martijn81> thanks phh
[17:54] <martijn81> seeyou
[17:55] <owner> Hello.
[17:56] <rosco_y> What commands can I use to change my prompt?
[17:56] <rosco_y> sometimes my paths get really long, and I'd like to shorten it to something like '>'
[17:57] <rosco_y> Think I might have found it in google: I'm too lazy to search first--sorry
[17:59] <zaccour> is there something like gnome-do for kde?
[18:00] <Tallken> zaccour: no, but ALT+F2 aims to work like the basic functionality of Gnome-Do
[18:00] <alteroo> Yes
[18:00] <rosco_y> zaccour: what does gnome-do do?
[18:00] <alteroo> it's a launcher
[18:00] <Tallken> rosco_y: it's ALT+F2 on steroids
[18:00] <zaccour> rosco_y, its similar to the Macintosh Spotlight search
[18:00] <rosco_y> :) cool
[18:02] <rosco_y> zaccour: you might like this: http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/KDE_Users
[18:02] <zaccour> i'm use to gnome, new to kde
[18:02] <rosco_y> zaccour: at first I was a little lost when I switched, but I like kde now, it works very well for me
[18:03] <alteroo> Hi zaccour Welcome to KDE
[18:03] <rosco_y> y, don't give up too early
[18:03] <apparle>  I get this when I run sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/
[18:03] <zaccour> it seems more elegant
[18:03] <owner> I'm currently facing problems with sounds, not exactly sure why. I can't hear flash videos at all..
[18:03] <zaccour> thanks
[18:04] <rosco_y> by peoples...I hear some w*rk calling me....
[18:04] <rosco_y> bye, even
[18:05] <alteroo> owner: 64 Bit flash?
[18:06] <owner> Yes, 64 bit flash.
[18:07] <alteroo> Yeah that has some known issues with Sound. can you check the ubuntuforums to see if they have a solution for you
[18:08] <owner> Hm.. I did manage to find a method of installing Flash, so I can see the videos. Its just the sound. But I'll check the forum.
[18:11] <Gintulis> how to load HD partition on desktop, that i can access  adn seen  them always on boot
[18:14] <apparle> can anyone help plzzzzzzzzzzzz... I want to install some softwares from main and universe repos
[18:15] <alteroo> Gintulis: What?
[18:15] <alteroo> apparle: and?
[18:16] <apparle> I get this when I run sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/
[18:18] <apparle> alteroo: can you help
[18:35] <BluesKaj> apparle:  pastebin your sources.list
[18:39] <apparle> only one line "deb http://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu/ jaunty main universe restricted multiverse"
[18:41] <apparle> BluesKaj: ?
[18:43] <apparle> I am unable to understand why I am getting 404....doesn't it mean the file doesnt exist on server??
[18:46] <Mamarok> apparle: I don't think the line is correct, usually it should read deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty etc.
[18:46] <Mamarok> no idea why you are looking for it on a kernel server
[18:47] <Mamarok> apparle: also, you should have more lines than that
[18:47] <Mamarok> ubuntu-updates, ubuntu-security should be there too, at least
[18:48] <spacelime> hello!
[18:48] <spacelime> After last update I can no longer log into the desktop... it hangs on the kde splash screen
[18:49] <spacelime> is there a way to log in in verbose mode to see what is going on?
[18:50] <apparle> BluesKaj: iceroot: I can download the files Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz manually from site
[18:50] <apparle> BluesKaj: Can you help
[18:51] <James147> spacelime: you could try renaming ~/.kde  i have found problem in there can sometimes stop you logging on
[18:52] <spacelime> James: ok! i will try that.... do you know if there is a way to log in in verbose mode as well?
[18:52] <James147> spacelime: sorry, dont know how to do that
[18:52] <spacelime> ok, thanks!
[18:52] <jarkko> apparle: you need to get the default sources.list, all ubuntu repos have been replaced with the kernel archive
[18:53] <apparle> jarkko: I know... I myself replaced them.........I was getting the same error with archive.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com, in.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:53] <apparle> I choose a random server from the list
[18:54] <enzi> hi, where can i find the equalizer in Amarok2?
[18:54] <James147> enzi: There isent one yet
[18:54] <James147> enzi: I think they are waiting for phonon to support it before they implment it
[18:54] <enzi> ok, thx
[18:56] <apparle> Why am I getting the 404 error for archive.ubuntu.com
[18:56] <James147> enzi: amarok 2.1.80 have the equilizer in the settings menu, but tis greyed out, look like they may be working on it (or at least plan to)
[18:57] <enzi> ahh, cool, thx...
[18:59] <jarkko> apparle: well, you need to put the original back, run 'aptitude update' and show us sources.list and the error
[19:02] <BluntedBoyWonder> hello fellow kubuntu-ists
[19:02] <apparle> jarkko: pastebin the orignal file
[19:03] <apparle> jarkko: is there any diffrence between apt-get and aptitude update
[19:03] <alteroo> Hi BluntedBoyWonder
[19:03] <alteroo> apparle: no
[19:03] <BluntedBoyWonder> I am trying to get my external usb harddrives to automount, ntfs. Known issue?
[19:04] <BluntedBoyWonder> I am on jaunty 9.04
[19:04] <alteroo> BluntedBoyWonder: You dropped it into fstab?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> apparle: aptitude is reputed to do a better job resolving dependencies than apt
[19:04] <BluntedBoyWonder> dont know the parameters
[19:05] <BluntedBoyWonder> how should I go about that?
[19:05] <apparle> So if I am using command line form package management tool should I use apt-get aptitude
[19:05] <BluntedBoyWonder> (beginner here)
[19:06] <jarkko> apparle: I'm running karmic, but I pastebin my list and replaced the release: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269911/
[19:06] <apparle> jarkko: I am updating ......... I'll pastebin the error
[19:06] <apparle> jarkko: and are deb-src lines required.... I don't need any sources
[19:07] <jarkko> apparle: not required
[19:07] <alteroo> BluesKaj: for update?
[19:07] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:07] <jarkko> apparle: apt-get and aptitude are both fine, aptitude is just nicer :)
[19:07] <BluesKaj> !aptitude
[19:08] <BluntedBoyWonder> alteroo: how do I "drop" something into fstab?
[19:08] <alteroo> !fstab
[19:09] <apparle> is this sources.list fine http://paste.ubuntu.com/269913/
[19:10] <BluesKaj> not much there as a sources.list apparle
[19:10] <apparle> ??
[19:11] <owner> I've got sound working with the audio player Amarok, downloaded audiopulse and followed the instruction so that it starts in start-up, and yet, I still can't hear anything when watching videos on youtube or if playing snesx9..
[19:11] <apparle> BluesKaj: what do you mean.
[19:12] <owner> I can't listen to anything in Flash
[19:12] <BluesKaj> apparle:  open kpackage kit and edit the sources , check off all the boxes in other sources as well as the default
[19:12] <owner> Yet, I can listen to any audio player
[19:13] <alteroo> might be pulseaudio
[19:14] <apparle> what does the 'Ign' mean in the output of apt-get/aptitude update
[19:14] <BluesKaj> ignoring
[19:15] <owner> What could I use instead of Pulseaudio
[19:15] <owner> Btw, I can't even listen to my emulator either.
[19:15] <alteroo> You may not have pulseaudio installed
[19:15] <BluesKaj> apparle, let me rephrase that : checkmark all the boxes in other sources as well as the default
[19:16] <owner> I think I do. I can click on the pulseaudio applet..
[19:17] <owner> Perhaps if I switch to Gnome, the sound can work?
[19:17] <BluntedBoyWonder> alteroo: wtf it worked
[19:18] <BluntedBoyWonder> thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction
[19:18] <BluntedBoyWonder> I do hope that in the future, this will be done automatically
[19:18] <alteroo> BluntedBoyWonder: If it is in fstab and the drive is there then it will
[19:19] <alteroo> if you remove the drive and put it on after boot then run sudo mount -a
[19:19] <alteroo> Or you know :-) Just click on the Device explorer that pops up :_
[19:19] <alteroo> :)
[19:20] <apparle> BluesKaj: if you mean enable everything in third party software....then there is none in there...and as you can see from the sources.list main,universe,multiverse,restriceted all are selected
[19:20] <BluntedBoyWonder> thanks, I wanted to get rid of the pain of manually mounting
[19:20] <apparle> this is the new pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/269917/
[19:23] <apparle> I dont understand why am I getting 'Ign' before jaunty/update Packages
[19:24] <alteroo> apparle: It means it's ignoring it
[19:25] <alteroo> that means that since the last time you checked the server nothing new has been uploaded so it's skipping it
[19:25] <apparle> but why is it first ignoring it and then generating error related to it
[19:25] <alteroo> Which error/
[19:26] <apparle> alteroo: see the pastebin
[19:26] <alteroo> which?
[19:26] <alteroo> I was disconnected shortly after you joined
[19:26] <alteroo> the last one?
[19:27] <apparle> also I have just used the command 'sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists' then 'sudo mkdir -p /var/lib/apt/lists/partial' and then 'sudo apt-get update'.... I have cleaned the lists so it should be downloaded again
[19:28] <apparle> alteroo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269917/
[19:28] <alteroo> apparle: You mean the GPG error?
[19:28] <apparle> alteroo: no.....
[19:29] <apparle> alteroo: the 404 error
[19:29] <alteroo> That's universe
[19:29] <apparle> alteroo: thats what I am saying why is it ignoring universe
[19:30] <apparle> sorry....for typing wrong earlier....I dont understand why am I getting 'Ign' before jaunty/universe Packages
[19:31] <alteroo> apparle: try switching to a new country to see if it's just the server
[19:32] <BluntedBoyWonder> how can I know/see if a drive is sda / sdb, etc?
[19:33] <alteroo> BluntedBoyWonder: What do you mean?
[19:33] <BluntedBoyWonder> i am trying to automount a different ext drive than before and it doesnt work
[19:34] <James147> BluntedBoyWonder: running "mount" will show you info on all mounted drived including location and /dev/sdXX number
[19:34] <alteroo> BluntedBoyWonder: use UUID
[19:34] <apparle> alteroo: tried archive.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:34] <alteroo> !UUID | BluntedBoyWonder
[19:35] <posto2> a simple question to a simples anser please: howto make a ubunbtu machine a dhcp server with static IP ?
[19:35] <slow-motion> hi
[19:35] <BluntedBoyWonder> those helped altero and James147.
[19:36] <BluntedBoyWonder> I figured it out now, thanks
[19:36] <apparle> this is the set of my commands I executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/269927/ and here is my sources.list Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/269929/
[19:36] <alteroo> posto2: set your IP to static then install dhcp-server
[19:37] <Dragnslcr> !info dhcp3-server | posto2
[19:41] <ahsan> hi
[19:41] <ahsan> can anyone please help me
[19:41] <ahsan> i want to add registry information to wine
[19:42] <ahsan> mean on windows i just double clik the .reg file n the information automatically got added to registry
[19:42] <apparle> ahsan: goto browse  c drive in menu and then into windows folder and start regedit.exe and then open the file
[19:43] <ahsan> thnx
[19:43] <ahsan> :)
[19:43] <apparle> ahsan: no problem
[19:44] <apparle> this is the set of my commands I executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/269927/ and here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/269929/ Plz help  I tried archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com also
[19:47] <ahsan> apparently silly question but since i m damm new to linux how i can use prelinking to speed up kubuntu
[19:47] <ahsan> i tried to execute commands written on kubuntu wiki
[19:47] <ahsan> but the console states acces denied
[19:48] <[mad]Berry> apparle: if you serve to the archive url you find "Archive-Update-in-Progress-leningradskaya.canonical.com" which explains why it's down right now
[19:48] <[mad]Berry> serve=surf
[19:48] <alteroo> ahsan: what did you try and run ?
[19:48] <ahsan> the command written dere on kubuntu wiki
[19:49] <alteroo> ahsan: There are a lot of them can you be more specific?
[19:49] <apparle> [mad]Berry: what URL did you see?
[19:50] <[mad]Berry> both your in.archive.ubuntu.com as well as us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:50] <ahsan> sudo cp /etc/default/prelink    this one
[19:50] <alteroo> ahsan: where did you copy it to ?
[19:51] <ahsan> on terminal console
[19:51] <ahsan> firt i wrote su
[19:51] <alteroo> ahsan: That's not a complete command
[19:51] <ahsan> den my password
[19:51] <alteroo> you are copying /etc/default/prelink where aer you copying it to ?
[19:51] <ahsan> then which one is complete
[19:52] <alteroo> sudo cp /etc/default/prelink where/the/prelink/goes
[19:52] <apparle> [mad]Berry: but I can't see anything like that......can you tell me the exact URL you are seeing
[19:53] <[mad]Berry> apparle: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:54] <chemic> hello. please help to config iptables: i have 2 ethernet i-face  and one ppp0
[19:54] <[mad]Berry> !iptables | chemic
[19:54] <chemic> who wont
[19:54] <chemic> ok
[19:55] <ahsan> now its saying command nt found
[19:55] <ahsan> i wrote dis       sudo cp /etc/default/prelink where/the/prelink/goes
[19:55] <alteroo> ahsan: haha :)
[19:55] <chemic> Firestarter wery poore
[19:55] <alteroo> ahsan: where/the/prelink/goes is not literal
[19:55] <alteroo> WHich page are you reading?
[19:56] <ahsan> mens?
[19:56] <apparle> !pastebin
[19:56] <[mad]Berry> chemic: Firestarter has always worked for me when needing GUI
[19:56] <ahsan> means?
[19:56] <alteroo> ahsan: You are reading a wiki page?
[19:56] <ahsan> no not at the time
[19:57] <alteroo> ahsan: OK can you find it and paste the link here
[19:57] <ahsan> y not
[19:57] <ahsan> gimme 1 min
[19:57] <ahsan> http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#prelink
[19:58] <apparle> [mad]Berry: I don't see what you are saying http://imagebin.org/63613
[19:59] <alteroo> ahsan: sudo cp /etc/default/prelink /etc/default/prelink.`date +%y%m%d-%H%M%S`
[20:00] <alteroo> what does that command return
[20:00] <alteroo> the ` ` is important
[20:01] <James147> make sure its ` ` and not ' '
[20:01] <alteroo>  Iwonder if dash supports $()
[20:03] <ahsan> again command not gound :(
[20:03] <apparle> [mad]Berry: I don't see any message that update is going on http://imagebin.org/63613
[20:03] <ahsan> *found
[20:04] <ahsan> no command found found
[20:05] <alteroo> ahsan: paste what you had typed here
[20:05] <alteroo> ahsan: presss up to get abck the command
[20:05] <[mad]Berry> apparle: file disappeared here as well
[20:05] <alteroo> You can just highlight it with the mouse and then use the midle mouse button to paste
[20:06] <[mad]Berry> apparle: I would give it an hour or so i'm sure it will be up by then
[20:06] <apparle> [mad]Berry: so it was in a file.....
[20:06] <[mad]Berry> apparle: yes
[20:06] <James147> ahsan: or to copy from konsole you can press alt+crtl+c (and paste to konsole use (alt+ctrl+v)
[20:06] <ahsan> wt is abck command
[20:07] <apparle> [mad]Berry: can you tell me the name of file.....in case I need it ever
[20:09] <[mad]Berry> apparle: Just scroll up.
[20:09] <James147> ahsan: can you paste the command you are typing into the terminal here?
[20:09] <mblenton> hi all. is it possible to setup dual boot via some gui tool? i have windows and another linux, but now installed kubuntu which didn't accept the existing boot configuration
[20:09] <alteroo> ahsan: press up on the command console and you should get the command you typed in
[20:10] <alteroo> copy that and paste it back here
[20:10] <apparle> Do I have to close firefox while its updating?
[20:10] <apparle> from package
[20:10] <alteroo> apparle: no when you want the new one you jsut close firefox and then reopen it
[20:11] <Unksi> apparle: not necessarily, you may encounter problems if you dont restart it after the update
[20:11] <James147> apparle: dont think so, but you need to close it to use the updated version
[20:11] <James147> apparle: its usually best to restart it after (or close it before if you dont need to use it) just incase
[20:12] <apparle> not only firefox....in general do I have to close the program while its package is updated......like it was in windows
[20:12] <James147> apparle: no
[20:12] <James147> apparle: but it is advised to restart the program after
[20:12] <apparle> James147: another advantage over windows
[20:13] <alteroo> apparle: quite a nice one
[20:13] <James147> apparle: yup, no need to restart the system either, even if you upgrade the full DE, just restart it and your fine :)
[20:14] <apparle> James147: but restart is required in case of kernel upgraded
[20:14] <alteroo> apparle: Same concept :) You need to restart the program
[20:14] <James147> apparle: only if you want to use the new kernel :) linux wont force you to restart
[20:14] <apparle> :)
[20:14] <alteroo> This just happens to be tied to the kernel :)
[20:15] <ahsan> sudo cp/etc/default/prelink /etc/default/prelink.`date +%y%m%d-%H%M`
[20:15] <James147> ahsan: space between cp and /etc
[20:15] <alteroo> ahsan: you need a space between cp and /
[20:15] <alteroo> sudo cp /etc
[20:15] <ahsan> ok
[20:15] <Fanfare> !de
[20:16] <chx> how can i close the child windows of a program? say skype or kopete, there are so many after a little time
[20:16] <alteroo> chx: depends on the program
[20:16] <ahsan> nothing happened :(
[20:17] <James147> chx: kquitapp <kde application>  if not you can try killall <application>
[20:17] <alteroo> ahsan: Then it worked properly
[20:17] <alteroo> James147: That's not child windows
[20:17] <chx> huh killall is a bit too much :)
[20:17] <chx> i want skype to stay alive, see
[20:17] <alteroo> chx: I jsut consolidate all my kopete windows :)
[20:17] <James147> chx: ahh :)
[20:18] <James147> chx: i know kopete can use tabs for contact windows, that might help
[20:18] <ahsan> means it had been configured automatically?
[20:19] <James147> ahsan: the cp command wont output anythign on a success
[20:20] <James147> ahsan: use ls path/to/place  (ie ls /etc/default) to see if it was copyed
[20:21] <James147> ahsan: or ls /etc/defaults | grep prelink
[20:21] <alteroo> ahsan: It meand you can go on to the next step on the page :)
[20:23] <alteroo> ahsan: type kdesudo kate /etc/date/prelink
[20:26] <ahsan> a window opened wid prelink written in 1 column n the other column blank
[20:27] <xenoterracide> when I click open containg folder in firefox downloads, it open cerversia anyone know the setting to get it to use dolphin?
[20:27] <ahsan> wt shud i do now :$
[20:27] <alteroo> ahsan: try putting yes in the second column
[20:27] <alteroo> then save it
[20:28] <ahsan> i wrote yes but its not saving it
[20:29] <ahsan> saying not enuff space or access denies
[20:29] <alteroo> ahsan: you opened it with kdesudo ?
[20:29] <ahsan> yes
[20:30] <ahsan> kdesudo kate /etc/date/prelink
[20:31] <alteroo> hmm it should work then
[20:31] <alteroo> ahsan: Blah
[20:32] <alteroo> ahsan: close it and don't save
[20:32] <alteroo> run kdesudo kate /etc/default/prelink
[20:32] <ahsan> i did
[20:32] <ahsan> now ?
[20:34] <ahsan> i entered thru dolphin as a root n now i hav 4 files of prelink infront of me
[20:34] <ahsan> temme which one i open
[20:34] <alteroo> the one that just says prelink
[20:35] <alteroo> you should have a line that says PRELINKING=unknown
[20:37] <cuznt> !botsnack
[20:40] <yuanmin> hello
[20:41] <alteroo> !hi| yuanmin
[20:41] <yuanmin> thanks,:) can someone teach me to forbid my integrated video card in Ubuntu 9.04?thanks
[20:41] <yuanmin> cause i want to install another video card
[20:42] <yuanmin> srry about my bad english....... XD
[20:43] <yuanmin> ?
[20:43] <alteroo> yuanmin: drop it in your modules blacklist
[20:44] <yuanmin> thanks, but how? i'm a newbie.....
[20:44] <Fanfare> yuanmin: or disable internal gfx in BIOS
[20:44] <alteroo> yuanmin: That would be a lot easier ;)
[20:44] <yuanmin> name is "internal gfx" in BIOS?
[20:44] <yuanmin> ok
[20:44] <alteroo> yuanmin: Depends on your BIOS but something like integrated video
[20:45] <yuanmin> it's normally in which section?
[20:46] <alteroo> yuanmin: Depends on your BIOS but perhaps something like INtegrated Devices or Onboard
[20:46] <yuanmin> ok, thanks, i'm going to try, is there anything that i should know before i do it?
[20:47] <alteroo> yuanmin: Put in your other video card ;-)
[20:47] <yuanmin> :) thanks
[20:48] <yuanmin> may be see u later..... XD
[20:49] <alteroo> Make sure you can use the monitor from the other card before you flip the integrated one off in BIOS
[20:50] <yuanmin> yes, i have windows in my disk, this has been checked
[20:51] <yuanmin> ok, i ll take a shot now, wish me luck...... thanks :)
[20:55] <Irving> ive been fighting with computer to work for about a week and a half, found out it was my CD drive killing me
[20:56] <Irving> i couldn't get windows, kubuntu, or ubuntu to install properly, used a tool to on my windows laptop that built a bootable usb thumb drive with the ubuntu iso on it
[20:56] <Irving> working beautifully now
[20:58] <Fanfare> Irving: And much faster than from CD-Drive, i discovered lately...
[21:01] <Irving> yea your right it did seem very fast
[21:01] <Irving> do you have any experience with multi OS on one machine?
[21:03] <alteroo> Fanfare: Optical is the slowest possible means of any transfer for a computer
[21:04] <Fanfare> alteroo: at least from a rotating disc.
[21:05] <alteroo> Fanfare: Funny that should be slower than a rotating magnetic desc huh?
[21:05] <Irving> yea
[21:06] <Irving> alteroo: a thumb drive isn't a spinning magentic disk I don't think
[21:06] <alteroo> A hard drive is
[21:07] <Irving> oh ok
[21:07] <Irving> my mistake, thought you were comparing to thumb drive
[21:08] <Irving> is it possible to install windows XP after ubuntu has been installed
[21:08] <Irving> i already have partitions set aside for it
[21:09] <Fanfare> Irving: u can, but Win wipes the MBR, so u cant start ubuntu anymore from normal hdd
[21:09] <alteroo> Irving: Yes
[21:09] <Irving> how would i open ubuntu then
[21:10] <alteroo> !mbr | Irving
[21:10] <ome> is it  possible to install win7 while ubuntu and winxp has already installed??
[21:10] <rosco_away> ome: on the same drive?
[21:10] <ome> of course
[21:11] <alteroo> ome: Yes as long as you make the space for it
[21:11] <rosco_y> well, you might look into gparted to resize your partitions, you could get room that way for starters
[21:11] <rosco_y> I've done that
[21:11] <ome> ok
[21:11] <rosco_y> so yeah, I've resized a partition, installed win7 on it, and then added it to my grub menu
[21:11] <Fanfare> if u dont need an OS for hardware specific stuff i recommend testing other OSes in a virtual machine...
[21:11] <rosco_y> it worked out ok
[21:13] <rosco_y> Fanfare: yeah, excellent suggestion, right at this very moment I'm using WinXP in a VBOX because my mono debugger isn't working too great
[21:13] <rosco_y> VBOX (by sun) is a great product...my XP works (nearly) just as good as if it were booted native
[21:14] <rosco_y> it's not 100% perfect of course, but it's very close
[21:14] <Fanfare> and it saves some grub troubles if u install M$ after Linux
[21:19] <trijntje> Hi all, i'm new to kubuntu and when setting up some effects the whole desktop background, including widgets en kmenu, is black
[21:20] <trijntje> how can i get things back to normal?
[21:22] <alteroo> trijntje: when you right click it do you get a menu?
[21:22] <alteroo> Fanfare: Otherway around surely?
[21:22] <alteroo> and M$ is very childish :)
[21:24] <trijntje> alteroo: nope, nothing happens
[21:25] <alteroo> trijntje: What happens when you press alt+F2 ?
[21:27] <trijntje> alteroo: that works, i get a prompt
[21:27] <trijntje> alteroo: i could just reboot or something but i was hoping there is a gracefull way ;)
[21:29] <madberry> trijntje: This could be caused by a widget.  Je kunt voor nederlandse help naar #ubuntu-nl
[21:29] <alteroo> trijntje: type plasma-desktop
[21:30] <trijntje> alteroo: that fixed it, thanks :D
[21:31] <trijntje> cu later all
[21:31] <alteroo> Bye
[21:43] <kimael_> Hi
[21:44] <alteroo> !hi | kimael_
[21:44] <kimael_> :)
[21:44] <kimael_> Does anyone use dualscreen ?
[21:45] <kimael_> I'm trying to understand a problem... with dualscreen.
[21:45] <kimael_> The KDE bar does not appear.
[21:45] <alteroo> The panel?
[21:45] <kimael_> yep
[21:46] <alteroo> You get a background etc ?
[21:46] <kimael_> yep
[21:46] <kimael_> Everything is fine
[21:46] <kimael_> except it seems like the pannel is UNDER my screen.
[21:46] <alteroo> ohhhh
[21:46] <alteroo> ummm
[21:46] <kimael_> every Plasmoïdes are shifted to the down.
[21:46] <alteroo> check in #plasma
[21:47] <kimael_> LOL very nice idea. See you soon (hope not :D )
[22:02] <IAmWill> i have an interesting problem.... my keyboard doesnt work in kde.. (works in kdm)... but the keyboard works fine in fluxbox... what would cause that?
[22:03] <alteroo> IAmWill: KDE/ X bug Does your Mouse work?
[22:03] <IAmWill> yes, mouse works fine
[22:03] <IAmWill> in both desktops and in kdm
[22:03] <alteroo> IAmWill: Ok This is an unoffical work around I've been using since KDE 4.1
[22:04] <alteroo> Turn on desktop edges so that when you drag a window to the edge of the window it flips desktops
[22:04] <IAmWill> okay
[22:05] <IAmWill> alteroo: is that it?
[22:06] <alteroo> IAmWill: Does the keybaord work now ?
[22:07] <IAmWill> where is that option at? ... cant seem to find it... (is it under appearances?)
[22:08] <alteroo> I'm under windows now :-(
[22:08] <IAmWill> okay
[22:08] <IAmWill> turn them all on?
[22:08] <alteroo> Can Someone remind me where the option is to allow the desktop to be changed if you drag the mouse to the edge of the screen ?
[22:09] <alteroo> IAmWill: It's a selection. Yo ucan have it off anytime he mouse touches the screen edge or only when dragging an application
[22:09] <IAmWill> i see the boxes in every corner and in the middle... the one on the left is green
[22:09] <IAmWill> wait.. window behavior..
[22:09] <alteroo> Something like that
[22:11] <alteroo> IAmWill: it might be under that section. I just remember it saying that it had to do with screen edges and allowed switching desktops when the mouse gets pushed against it or only when the mouse is dragging an application
[22:14] <IAmWill> windows behavior > advanced > active desk borders ??
[22:15] <IAmWill> do i need to restart X afterwards for this work around to take effect?
[22:21] <IAmWill> okay.. i can hold letters down and they will repeat... but i cant just type normally...
[22:21] <IAmWill> its like the keyboard is not responsive
[22:21] <IAmWill> unless i hold down a key
[22:25] <IAmWill> stupid accessibility
[22:26] <surgy> can someone help me solve my problem? here is a paste from terminal : http://pastebin.com/m6475dc79
[22:26] <IAmWill> the "use slow keys" was on
[23:00] <JuJuBee> When my update notifier pops up, it says I have several blocked updates.  What is that from?
[23:02] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: try sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a konsole
[23:04] <JuJuBee> I am running 9.04 already, will dist-upgrade do anything?
[23:05] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: just upgrade all possible upgrades
[23:06] <JuJuBee> Did the update...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/270012/  seems something is wrong..
[23:06] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: versionjumps but ubuntu stays 9.04
[23:06] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: thats ok as long as u still trust opera...
[23:07] <JuJuBee> I do still use opera
[23:07] <JuJuBee> in fact using now... I  like the built in irc client
[23:07] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: u didnt import theyr public key to verify packages... u can ignore that
[23:07] <JuJuBee> Ok. thanks
[23:08] <JuJuBee> doing dist-upgrade now
[23:08] <JuJuBee> so what causes updates to be blocked in the first place?
[23:09] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: could be missing packages, or kernelupdates
[23:09] <JuJuBee> will the dist-upgrade take care of that?
[23:10] <Fanfare> yes, dist-upgrades upgrases everythink it can find outdated. It'll ask before proceeding.
[23:11] <JuJuBee> kool.  it is working now.  Thanks.
[23:12] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: its the power of console :-)
[23:12] <JuJuBee> Yes,  I do like doing things at console when i can.
[23:14] <JuJuBee> Ahhh, all done.
[23:15] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: if kernel got updated, it is recomendet to restart
[23:15] <JuJuBee> need to restart
[23:18] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: seems there were a couple of kernel updates I missed...
[23:18] <alteroo> JuJuBee: You normally only need the latest one
[23:19] <JuJuBee> Yeah, I commented out the others...
[23:19] <alteroo> Quitea few people just delay as long as tehy can and install the latest one
[23:19] <alteroo> Kinda like LTS :)
[23:19] <alteroo> Hmm
[23:19] <alteroo>  !dapper
[23:19] <alteroo> Awww Dapper died :(
[23:21] <JuJuBee> anyone good with hardware issues?  I have an external hard drive in enclosure that not working.  when I plug in, dmesg recognizes the drive and capacity, but I cannot get it to mount
[23:22] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: does it create a /dev/sdX?
[23:22] <JuJuBee> hang on, let me get the drive and plug it in...
[23:22] <zaccour> yahoo doesn't seem very kopete friendly. is this a bug?
[23:23] <zaccour> also webs.com domains don't either
[23:23] <alteroo> kopete isn't vey yaho friendly
[23:23] <zaccour> do people chat in this channel? lol
[23:23] <zaccour> oh ok
[23:24] <zaccour> alteroo, its not yahoo friendly? how come?
[23:24] <zaccour> i have to log into classic email before i can get to the new email version lol
[23:24] <alteroo> SOmeone needs to work on the protocol
[23:24] <zaccour> kopete works great with flash videos though, better than firefox
[23:27] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: this is what messages says when I plug it in...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/270018/
[23:29] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: looks like theres no partition on device /dev/sdc
[23:29] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: no /dev/sdc available...
[23:29] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: gparted doesn't list the device
[23:30] <Fanfare> did u do it as sudo?
[23:31] <JuJuBee> Do what as Sudo?
[23:31] <JuJuBee> here is some updated info   http://paste.ubuntu.com/270020/
[23:31] <Fanfare> !sudo
[23:32] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: I know what sudo is, but did I do what as sudo?  run gparted?  it asked me for the admin password if that is what you mean
[23:33] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: yeah, that was it, dont use gparted... but hardware error looks bad!
[23:33] <Fanfare> u have any data on that device?
[23:33] <JuJuBee> Yes, but nott anything I dont have elsewhere
[23:34] <JuJuBee> bad like the drive is toast?
[23:34] <JuJuBee> or needs to be re-formatted?
[23:37] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: well, maybe the drive supports SMART try package smartmontools
[23:38] <zaccour> whats a good email client besides yahoo and gmail? i wanna get away from the ads and become low profile
[23:39] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: K, installing
[23:39] <Fanfare> zaccour: u mean email-provider? which countryß
[23:39] <zaccour> USA
[23:39] <zaccour> Fanfare, USA
[23:41] <Fanfare> zaccour: well, dont know any other than hotmail... what probs do u have with gmail, yahoo?
[23:41] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: what do I do after I install it?  How do I run?
[23:41] <zaccour> yahoo gets lots of spam and i just want something different and low profile
[23:42] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: sudo smartctl --all /dev/sdc
[23:43] <Fanfare> zaccour: but it has pop3 or imap? install spam filter on local mailclient.
[23:44] <JuJuBee> Fanfare: Smartctl open device: /dev/sdc failed: No such file or directory
[23:45] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: ? u plugged device in? a /dev/sdc is there?
[23:47] <JuJuBee> plugged in yes
[23:48] <JuJuBee> but /dev/sdc does not appear to be there
[23:49] <SJr> How can I get 2.6.31
[23:49] <Fanfare> hm, thats to bad, so it really looks like a hardware error...
[23:49] <JuJuBee> bummer
[23:49] <alteroo> SJr: pull it from Karmic
[23:51] <JuJuBee> oh well, gtg, thanks for the help Fanfare
[23:51] <Fanfare> JuJuBee: ur welcom
[23:55] <siegie> i've installed opensync-plugin-kdepim but where do i find it?
[23:55] <Fanfare> siegie: its part of opensync! u needt to use it with opensync tools
[23:57] <siegie> Fanfare: I can only find multisync-tools in  the repo's from karmic
[23:58] <Fanfare> siegie: opensyncutils package?
[23:59] <siegie> ah thanks Fanfare