[00:06] Is anyone able to create an email account in Evolution since yesterday? When I fill in the settings it just loops back to the beginning.. [00:10] * cwillu wonders if that means they're fixing the bug where you have to fill in the email account before you can get to the preferences page to turn off the indicator applet that is useless if you don't use evolution for email [00:17] audio died on me today. Anyone knows the cause? [00:23] philip: killall -9 pulseaudio [00:23] install and open pavucontrol [00:23] and see if it is working [00:46] anyone alive here? [00:46] I'd like to test something [00:46] gajim no sound issue [00:46] BUGabundo: still no audio. Just pops [00:46] pops? [00:47] are we back to that? [00:47] BUGabundo, have you got 3 mins? [00:47] * BUGabundo looks at clock [00:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gajim/+bug/428172 [00:47] Launchpad bug 428172 in gajim "[Koala] gajim no sound at all using PA, but aplay works" [Undecided,New] [00:47] * BUGabundo clocks says 1am [00:47] almost 2 here.. ;) [00:47] Michalxo: I don't use gajim [00:48] can you jsut install it for a while if you have PAudio + koala? [00:48] BUGabundo: yes. Back in 9.04 I could just change to ALSA or OSS and it would work. Now there's no options [00:48] i hear no sound at all... [00:50] philip: don't do that :( [00:51] Michalxo: you have to wait for some one of the audio team to pick it up [00:51] oh, ok then [00:52] BUGabundo: so any ideas? or shall I revert back to alpha 5? [00:52] philip: Michalxo: try audio team PPA [00:52] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa [00:54] btw, it is normal to ask root/sudo pw for nm-applet to connect to wifi?! [00:54] no [00:54] it always asks me to type it, it refuses to connect any wifi at all [00:55] but its normal for it to ask your *keychain* pass [00:55] happens only when bypassing login = autologin [00:55] keychain = user pw? [00:55] I didn't used to be [00:55] but now it is [00:56] hi [00:56] it even FORCES is on upgrades to Karmic [00:56] hey vlada [00:56] anyone willing to help with kubuntu install [00:56] 9.10 of course [00:56] vlada: what do you need? [00:57] well.. kubuntu was/is really messed up on my wifi... refuses to join any network at all! (on kde arch-livecd it worked nice!) [00:57] since theres no terminal install Ive tried installing using default frontend [00:57] ubiquity I believe [00:58] problem is with manually specifying partitions... it just wont work [00:58] vlada: there's an alternate installer [00:58] no visual representation of disks [00:58] vlada, what about using hirens cd to prepare partitions? [00:58] *hirens boot manager [00:58] on first try on second it complaints about missing root partition [00:59] or any disk partitioner [00:59] Michalxo: Ive thought about that [00:59] but there is one tiny problem [00:59] I cant specify partition on which I want to install anyway [01:00] so pre-install partitioning wont help [01:00] could be a bun on installer [01:00] are you using daily images? [01:00] *bug [01:00] BUGabundo: yes [01:00] ok [01:00] take a quick look at LP [01:01] if you don't find one, please file [01:01] there is an interesting new way to add repos: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev" [01:01] * BUGabundo MUST sleep now! tomorrow : Barcamp :) [01:01] wow! [01:01] LP? [01:01] philip: yes [01:01] vlada: Launchpad.net [01:01] oh [01:02] BUGabundo: what is alternative installer? [01:02] !daily [01:02] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [01:02] vlada: see the 1st link [01:02] now I need to get to bed [01:02] bye guys [01:02] gn [01:02] bye BUGabundo [01:02] bye [01:03] later BUGabundo [01:03] bye my dear friend [01:03] anyoone else? [01:03] miss you [01:03] vlada, they are a bit safer taht alternates :) [01:03] vlada, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ as BUGabundo posted above [01:03] Michalxo: I missed that [01:04] anyone had the chance to test ati kms for performance gains lately? [01:07] can someone post me AT so I can login LP [01:07] cant type it [01:07] AT? [01:07] :) [01:07] as in email [01:07] something AT something.com [01:07] I need at sign [01:07] @ [01:07] @@@@@@@@@@@ [01:08] my keyoard is screwed :) [01:08] thanx [01:08] save it on desktop then :) [01:08] where's charmap when you need one? :) [01:09] heh [01:09] missing from live disk :) [01:09] just philip alt+f2 charmap :D [01:09] it works ;) [01:09] well.. i have it on my liveCD :) [01:10] attack of the :) s [01:10] :)) [01:12] mac_v: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/123544/out-1.ogv :) [01:13] vlada: is a hardware problem, or just the keyboard layout? [01:13] keyboard layout [01:13] but I have bigger problems now then to reboot [01:14] nzmm, ;) very nice [01:14] the layout is probably in english [01:14] yep, pulseaudio is once again hosed [01:14] Michalxo: thnx :D [01:14] AirBender: I am struggling to make installer works [01:14] ok [01:14] pls, PM me more.. I think I heard some weird noise from PA using xchat! [01:15] BTW, I have downloaded live cd from posted address [01:15] philip: pa seems ok here, in fact seems saner now, imho [01:16] has xchat ever got a sounds?? === Lars_G_zombie is now known as Lars_G [01:24] why none of the music players in gnome have graphic equalizer? [01:24] I think I saw one in amarok in the past... [01:26] banshee does, doesnt it? [01:27] well banshee 1.5.1 which is in a ppa on launchad def has equalizer [01:33] nzmm: interesting... [01:33] * cwillu hopes something comes of this: bug #428195 [01:33] Launchpad bug 428195 in ubuntu "Wubi is listed an a safe installation method" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428195 [01:34] Michalxo, have you tried the NetworkManager PPA? [01:35] NoelJB, i hadn't internet connecion at all.. so it was impossible to me [01:36] anyway.. i don't use kde/kubuntu and it happened to me more then once.. K9.04 did the same to me when I was trying it [01:36] time to sleep [01:36] gn guys! [01:36] bye [01:36] btw NoelJB 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) [01:37] same as mine [02:07] ne1 knows how to control screen sensor brightness on an asus laptop, there is a fix for intrepid but it does not work on karmic [02:14] AirBender: isn't having a graphic equalizer in each music player like having an equalizer in every player component of your HiFi installation instead of in the amplifier or in its own component...? ;) [02:16] BTW, I know that somebody is working on a graphic equalizer as a PulseAudio plugin [02:50] ok, I've finally managed to install karmic [02:51] how can I repartition disk now? [02:51] basicly I want to add home partition (separate) [02:56] how many possibilities i've to find some of the new themes in karmic daily live-cd ? [03:20] hi [03:30] hi ShapeShifter499 [03:30] so I got another question, I have a Ipod nano 2gb 2gen and I tried to run iloader( http://l4n.clustur.com/index.php/ILoader ) on it and messed up, I did restore my ipod through a Mac desktop computer at my high school during a graphics class and now I'm trying to restore my ipod music and can't, its because nautilus is saying my ipod is in read-only mode, how do I fix that, and make the file... [03:30] ...system on my ipod writable again? [03:30] *note: I do type rather slow* [03:33] !offtopic [03:33] #ubuntu+1 handles support for the development version of Ubuntu. Please join #ubuntu for all other Ubuntu support. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic. [03:34] this is on karmic [03:35] my computer where my music is has karmic alpha 5 on it [03:35] how many possibilities i've to find some of the new themes in karmic daily live-cd ? [03:37] darkham how about apt-cache search gnome |grep themes and installing some [03:39] ? [03:41] bucky, i mean "Kin theme" "Night Impression theme" "Impression theme" "Hanso theme" "Turrican theme" "Breathe icon theme" [03:47] community- [03:47] themes? [03:50] darkham, http://www.simplehelp.net/2009/05/26/how-to-install-ubuntu-themes/ === voidmage-away is now known as voidmage [04:41] I'm having trouble with audio (pops only). Anyone with a fix? [04:50] quite tonight [04:53] ubuntu-one is broken ? [04:54] dunno quit using it awhile ago [04:54] I get a "application problem" when I try to connect [04:54] first time I try using it [05:03] hi, the laptop version of karmic is really very conked up, text vanishes all of a sudden [05:04] anyone else expriencing this? [05:05] Can anyone using karmic open a terminal and try the following command and let me know if you get an error: "sudo cd /home" [05:07] i think that's normal [05:07] what are you trying to do? [05:08] billybigrigger: you think what is normal? [05:08] sudo cd not found [05:09] is that normal? [05:09] like i said what are you trying to do [05:09] move to another dir using udo [05:09] sudo* [05:09] trying it in jaunty now [05:09] can't as a normal user? [05:10] *CAUTION* :) [05:10] i can do sudo -s ; cd /home [05:10] you could also try this, but i take no responsibility for what you do to YOUR system :P [05:10] $ sudo /bin/bash [05:10] yep, same thing in jaunty [05:10] no thats fine [05:11] i just wanted to know if it was unexpected behaviour [05:11] anyhow, have a good night billybigrigger [05:11] ahh [05:11] g'nite [05:25] Ok yeah everything can break yada yada.. but is there any date for when the release is? [05:26] ikey: october [05:26] ah thanks [05:26] Yeah last time I installed it I broke my grub lol... [05:26] ikey: thats why its 9.10 :P [05:26] that would make sense... [05:26] why did i never work that out... [05:27] year.month :) [05:27] lolz [05:27] I'm using #! atm, but i de-crunched it xD [05:27] System: Host silver Kernel 2.6.31-rc9-ikey i686 (32 bit) Distro Ubuntu 9.04 jaunty [05:29] X is using the 'nv' driver instead of 'nvidia', what could cause that? [05:30] Not configuring the xorg.conf ? [05:30] xorg.conf not correct or missing [05:30] gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [05:31] Swap the Driver "nv" for Driver "nvidia" [05:31] ikey: i don't have specific settings in my xorg.conf [05:31] Doesn't matter in reference to Nvidia [05:31] Just set the driver :) [05:31] no. [05:31] orjust use jockey, since it's there for inexperienced users [05:31] it worked for years without adding that line to xorg.conf [05:31] why isn't autodetection working now? [05:32] no it did not [05:32] xorg.conf has always had to have the nvidia driver in it [05:32] ubuntu comes with a bare bones xorg.conf, with virtually no settings in it. everything is autodetected, and has worked fine for years [05:33] not with the nvidia driver it hasn't [05:33] i haven't played any games in the last few months, so i dont know when it stopped using nvidia and started using nv [05:37] * DanaG cues a jab at nvidia: [05:37] *segfault* [05:38] (on nvidia 96 on gf4mx.) [05:38] DanaG, i tested nouveau using the fedora image yesterday and it worked great. also they said it should work on old junk like you're using [05:39] yeah, that's what I'm using on the thing. [05:39] (It's on a spare laptop, by the way.) [05:40] oh yeah, and at least nouveau works way better than it did in Intrepid, where it hammered the CPU and hard drive. [05:41] it will have 3d whent hey gett he gallium driver done [05:47] Hello everyone, I'm using karmic koala and did some s/w upgrades .. and my desktop panels have disappeared completely. any directions? [05:47] socratees: can you do alt+F2? [05:48] socratees, $ killall gnome-panel [05:48] gnome-panel should restart itself [05:48] shadeslayer: alt+F2nope doesn't work [05:48] yep [05:48] let me try that [05:48] billybigrigger: seems to be a bigger problem [05:50] shadeslayer: i'm facing this problem since i did an upgrade few minutes back.. [05:50] to anyone else with sound problems (pops) after updating, use alsamixer to turn up the volume [05:50] socratees: can you remember what you upgraded? [05:50] sound pops all the time here philip [05:51] been doing it since rc4 [05:51] you mean alpha4 :) [05:51] hehe [05:51] whatever [05:51] certain parts of xserver and some packages starting in a* .. i used synaptic and upgraded all packages starting with a [05:51] socratees, if you are using compiz, shut it off, in appearences set visual effects to none. [05:51] i thought i had a head cold for 2 weeks.. from the poping. :) [05:52] $ killall pulseaudio seems to stop the pops for me here that i've recently noticed in the last few days [05:52] ah.... pulseaudio XD [05:52] every time somthing does a beep/sound it will do the pop but only once every few mins. [05:52] killall PA didn't do it for me, I had to reconfigure it in alsamixer [05:52] shadeslayer: the upgrade wasn't successful. Failed to fetch from ubuntu servers. got an 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80] [05:52] like the cards are going into sleep mode, or somhow 'restarting up' [05:53] arvind_k: thanks. let me check. i'm not sure if i'm using compiz. i'm new to linux [05:53] socratees: switch servers,and update and upgrade again [05:53] shadeslayer: where can i get the new server list? should i update the sources.list file? [05:54] socratees, just replace the first two letters in the uri, with another country code say us for united states,or in for india ,likewise [05:55] !mirrors | socratees [05:55] socratees: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Jaunty, and help keeping the servers' load low! [05:55] arvind_k: okay let me try that [05:55] ubottu: thanks [05:55] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [05:55] lol! [05:55] socratees: you are using? [05:56] thats new [05:56] socratees: i meant what DE are you using? [05:57] shadeslayer: sorry, but what does a DE mean? [05:57] socratees: gnome or KDE? [05:58] shadeslayer: gnome [05:58] socratees, desktop environment. [05:58] socratees: then thats your DE (Desktop Env) [05:58] even if he can't launch any apps, he can get to a vt [05:58] socratees: you can change servers from synaptic [06:01] shadeslayer: i just updated my sources.list now as per arvind_k's suggestion. now they all point to http://en.ubuntu.*. [06:02] socratees, sudo aptitude update;sudo aptitude dist-upgrade [06:02] hmm, sometimes, even if gnome-terminal won't work, xterm will. [06:02] shadeslayer: i tried to run gnome-panel and it said it wasn't available. so i tried to install it using apt install, and it says gnome-control-center: Depends * not going to be installed. [06:04] arvind_k: let me try that [06:06] arvind_k: your trick seemed to work. thanks :) [06:07] shadeslayer: i pointed my sources.list and installed gnome-panel again. the desktop panel looks good now. it reported some crashes, i'll send them to launchpad. [06:08] socratees: sure thing [06:08] hmm...don't understand why copy/paste a 7.3GB image in nautilus actually copies...i just moved the file up one directory, one the same disk [06:09] i could see disk to another disk, but not up a directory [06:09] ahhh that's why i love CLI :) mv wouldn't have done something so stupid :P [06:10] billybigrigger: doesnt nautilus have a move command? [06:12] dunno, don't use it a bunch [06:12] billybigrigger, why not cut/paste then? [06:12] i did cut/paste [06:12] and it copied [06:12] you said copy/paste [06:13] ctrl-x-ctrl-v [06:13] i meant cut my bad [06:13] wel, doesn't do that here [06:13] maybe my fat finger hit ctrl-c-ctrl-v? [06:13] billybigrigger: possibally [06:13] it could be [06:13] hmmmmm........ [06:13] * billybigrigger ponders [06:13] c is beside v [06:13] billybigrigger: could test it again see what it does [06:13] hi there, i have a problem with pulse audio, it often uses 100% of the cpu .. [06:13] very true [06:14] freaks, try the audio dev's PPA for pulseaudio [06:14] freaks, you and all other linux users [06:14] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa [06:14] * billybigrigger just figured out he could patch and burn x360 backups in linux today :) [06:15] thanks billybigrigger i'll try the ppa version [06:15] have to wait until tomorrow for some DL DVDR's [06:15] :( [06:15] freaks, give er a go, *might* make it better :) make sure to cross your fingers haha [06:15] test [06:15] test [06:19] fail. [07:03] i have an issue where i am playing some audio, and when i open a terminal or something, and press backspace(for example), it silences the background audio for a second, like it's trying to play a system bell but failing. i can hear a pop in the audio when it goes silent [07:08] peepsalot: shot in the dark suggestion: try "sudo rmmod pcspkr" and see if it still happens? [07:10] mpontillo, ERROR: Module pcspkr does not exist in /proc/modules [07:11] ah, maybe that was made the default in Karmic. I remember having to do that manually in Jaunty. now there are two blacklist entries for it in /etc/modprobe.d [07:11] mpontillo: sudo modprobe -r modulename is preferable, it will also try to unload any sub-dependent modules whereas rmmod does not [07:12] genii: good point, but wouldn't rmmod just fail to remove it? I doubt anything would depend on that module anyway. [07:12] peepsalot: the other thing I can think to try is adjusting System > Preferences > Sound, under "Sound Effects" you can mute the "Alert volume" - see if that helps? [07:13] mpontillo, does not make a difference [07:14] did an update recently, gonna restart. brb [07:23] restarted, still same issue. I just realized that it's not going completely silent, but it is making the overall volume very low, barely audible. [07:24] peepsalot: odd. have you tried the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA? FWIW, I can't recreate after enabling alert sounds and trying the same thing. I usually have my sound theme set to "no sounds". [07:24] (I am using the PPA though.) [07:26] hmm, so far i can only reproduce this if the background audio is from flash video (youtube). if i open totem it negates the effect somehow [07:33] still can not recreate on youtube with pulseaudio version 1:0.9.16-0ubuntu1~ubuntuaudiodev1, flashplugin-installer version 10.0.32.18ubuntu1 === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [07:51] is there anyway to wipe out all changes to the system and revert back to the original (just installed) state? [07:53] not unless you made a backup at that point [07:53] * genii thinks about !downgrade [07:54] philip: any reason you cant just reinstall, if you dont need the changes anymore? [07:57] James147: reinstallation would take around 30 min, while I think a way to keep track of the changes (uninstalling manually installed packages) would be faster [07:58] not to mention I'd have to download the daily image === Into_the_Pit is now known as Frickelpit [08:09] cwillu_at_work: can anyone give me the link how to mount partitions manually? [08:10] !mount [08:10] mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [08:37] I wanna write the command that copy the current address to other place what should I do? === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity [08:41] hey [08:41] someone there [08:47] Hi there. I want to find out the UUID of a volume. How can I do this in karmic? Seems like to command "vol_id" is gone? [08:49] Blinkiz: sudo blkid [08:49] genii, thanks [08:49] np [08:54] how can i lear capacity of dvd === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:36] I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that? [10:01] hmm [10:02] You want the user to run that command and ask theirself if they really ment it? [10:07] Hello, is there a minimal installer of Karmic? [10:08] ive never noticed. [10:08] is that something like a reply? [10:08] look at the download images and see i guess. [10:09] I thinki saw some 'JEOS' Image files for karmic [10:11] sorry i dont have much of a clue [10:11] thats why im asking here [10:11] is there or is there not? [10:13] does anyone know any reason why i should not upgrade from jaunty to karmic? [10:13] if you have no reason [10:13] Because Karmic can have some very annoying bugs and brekage [10:13] you shouldnt [10:14] awwww [10:14] thats very sad [10:14] You would expect us to say 'Yes Upgrade to alpha software - for no reason!' ? [10:17] not at all...its just that october seems so far away! [10:19] Given the amount of things that need fixed... id rather see things delayed then rushed. [10:20] But the last month befor a relesae is always a rush [10:20] Go use it now - if you want to. But there can be problems. [10:23] is there a suggested approach to fixing grub2 from a karmic livecd? [10:24] Ive read up on the 'grub2 basics' wiki page. and learn about grub2. but i imagien the approach would depend on the problem you are having., [10:24] I need to read/learn more grub2 - some day. [10:35] im trying to reinstall grub 2 with "sudo update-grub2" but i get a "grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /." error. is there a better way to reinstall grub? [10:45] Hmm.. THis isent on an Apple Machine is it? [10:45] Is there a way to update only specific parts in 9.04 to 9.10? For instance only the kernel, x11and intel-graphics drivers? [10:47] ManDay: open /etc/apt/sources.list, change "jaunty" to "karmic" and then only upgrade a few packages [10:47] Dr_Willis_Arch: nope === ripps_ is now known as ripps [10:56] Hmmm... ever since I updated libc, things have acting wonky... I can't download imap, I can't access the keyserver, and mplayer won't play with the coreavc codec I compiled in... I've even tried rebooting [11:07] ManDay: it is possible. [11:08] ManDay: look at some of the PPAs. xorg-edgers [11:08] hm yeah [11:08] ManDay: However, be careful because you take a risk that the bleeding-edge builds will not be compatible with each other [11:08] what is PPA? [11:08] ManDay: Personal Package Archive, on launchpad.net [11:08] ah yeah i see [11:09] why cant i use the karmic ones? [11:09] i thought they have their things updated? [11:09] ManDay: bad idea [11:09] why so? [11:09] ManDay: you either upgrade your whole distro or not at all [11:09] you'll break dependencies all over the place if you upgrade some parts and not others [11:09] mind to explain? why can i not just update kernel and take the xorg things from karmic for jaunty? [11:10] wouldnt i also break deps with the PPAs? [11:10] Xorg, X11, GNOME, GDM, the kernel, the drivers, etc, they're all tied in too closely to other packages. [11:10] whats the difference? [11:11] https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [11:11] start with that [11:11] You won't break deps with the PPAs [11:11] dude seriously, don't install karmic packages on Jaunty unless you know what you're doing [11:13] and if you DO know what you're doing, you'll realize you should be using something like gentoo if you want the flex "mix and match" you desire [11:15] hum, dontzap isn't in Karmic repos? [11:15] ManDay: listen, add that PPA to your sources.list and upgrade xorg to the latest version [11:15] I know how-to edit xorg.conf, but got curious with it not available [11:16] ManDay: it will automatically pull in all the appropriate dependencies, built against each other [11:18] Tallken: you can enable ctrl-alt-bksp by going into System->Keyboard->Layout->Layout Options->Key Sequence to kill the X Server [11:19] Is that where they moved it to? [11:19] Tallken: I installed dontzap and it didn't work [11:19] Tallken: but my MacBook had a bit of custom stuff on it so I'm not sure if that's true for everyone in karmic [11:19] yea - i noticed dontzap dont work any more either. :) [11:20] w 23 [11:20] No need to install any app or add special conf options, it's built into gnome as an optional config [11:20] no. [11:20] Getting where theres so many little settings all over the place in dioffernt locations that keep changeing.. [11:20] ripps: what if im not using gnome. :) [11:20] I always found it amuseing we had to have a little tool just to 'tweak' a single line in the xorg.conf.. but i,m not even sure that line is in the xorg.conf any more [11:20] Dr_Willis_Arch: a similar option should be available in the latest KDE for karmic [11:21]