[00:32] <eyeron> ahoy
[00:33] <knome> yoha
[00:34] <eyeron> heh
[02:43] <SiDi_> hey dashua
[02:43] <dashua> SiDi_, Sup mate?
[02:43] <SiDi_> fine, you ?
[02:43] <dashua> Just got home from dinner.  Good timing. :)
[02:44] <SiDi_> wow
[02:44] <dashua> Good.
[02:44] <dashua> Yeah, late.
[02:44] <SiDi_> oh, you're in the USA ? :P
[02:44] <dashua> Aye.
[02:44] <knome> lol
[02:44] <SiDi_> its 4 AM here
[02:44] <knome> tell me about late
[02:44] <knome> it's 5 am here
[02:44] <SiDi_> 5 AM in knome's country
[02:44] <dashua> =/
[02:44] <SiDi_> we were talking about our gtk themes in xubuntu
[02:44] <dashua> Up early or can't sleep?
[02:44] <knome> up late, could sleep but don't want to ;)
[02:45] <SiDi_> i think we'd be interested in shipping an alvaro based theme as the default dark theme
[02:45] <dashua> Oh nice.
[02:45] <SiDi_> so i wanted to know if you would be around this week end to help us shape this up :)
[02:45] <dashua> Yeah.  I'll be around.  Np.
[02:45] <SiDi_> Wee :)
[02:46] <dashua> My youngest daughter has a soccer game tomorrow, but other than that I'm free.
[02:46] <knome> dashua, is there a definite url to link to about alvaro?
[02:46] <dashua> Just on GNOME-Look for now.
[02:46] <dashua> I can't remember if I pushed the code to Launchpad
[02:47] <dashua> I know I did not make a project for it yet.
[02:47] <SiDi_> dashua: i think i have 3 compulsory parties tomorrow so we'll probably talk about usplash & icons with knome when we can find each other, and work on gtk sunday
[02:47] <dashua> Ok cool.
[02:48] <dashua> SiDi_, You already did the Xfwm4?
[02:48] <SiDi_> yes
[02:48] <dashua> Nice.
[02:48] <SiDi_> ive been using it almost constantly since you released alvaro
[02:49] <dashua> And you tweaked it somewhat, right?
[02:49] <SiDi_> only in the last days i ran default xubuntu for panel testing
[02:49] <SiDi_> i think i tried to, and failed
[02:49] <dashua> Hehe.
[02:49] <SiDi_> it should be like the metacity, really :p
[02:49] <dashua> That was the quickest theme I think I've ever made.
[02:50] <SiDi_> its an awesome one :D
[02:50] <dashua> Thx :)
[02:50] <dashua> I should have made a wiki and tried for the community, but I ran out of time and Hanso was already pretty much completed.
[02:51] <SiDi_> its been funny to see all the different versions of hanso
[02:51] <SiDi_> it makes me think of different brands of coffee now :d
[02:51] <dashua> Yeah, it has really evolved.
[02:51] <dashua> Look similar, but really nothing like  the original iteration.
[02:52] <dashua> It's over six months, I think?
[02:52] <SiDi_> hm
[02:52] <SiDi_> probably
[02:52] <knome> ehm
[02:52] <knome> so
[02:52] <knome> let me ask this most stupid question again
[02:53] <knome> the xfwm theme handles the window borders/decorations, but gtk handles everything else?
[02:53] <SiDi_> he'll ask where is alvaro on the internet :p
[02:53] <SiDi_> knome: yes
[02:53] <knome> no, i already linked it
[02:54] <SiDi_> gtkrc for the gtk theme's look
[02:54] <knome> SiDi_, i already have lots of text you need to read;)
[02:54] <SiDi_> metacity theme for the gnome WM
[02:54] <SiDi_> xfwm theme for xfwm
[02:54] <knome> now you confused me :D
[02:55] <knome> SiDi_, are you running karmic?
[02:55] <dashua> SiDi_, knome: Do you want to stay with the orange bg_selected or a blue?
[02:55] <knome> blue, i think
[02:56] <dashua> Ok
[02:56] <knome> definitely not orange, even if there's not really anything wrong with it
[02:56] <dashua> Alright, I'll come up with something unless you already have a palette to work with?
[02:57] <knome> we kind of have
[02:57] <knome> the palette is here: http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/9.10/Mockups/06-hires.png
[02:57] <knome> well, the hue value
[02:57] <knome> suppose the saturation and lightness will still change on the wall/gdm
[02:58] <dashua> That's good.
[02:58] <dashua> Nice wallpaper.
[02:58] <knome> thanks
[02:59] <dashua> You need it done for this cycle or Karmic +1?
[02:59] <knome> this
[02:59] <dashua> Ok
[02:59] <knome> but we can alter the colors ourselves, i think
[02:59] <knome> or on sunday together
[02:59] <SiDi> err
[02:59] <dashua> Yeah, that's should be easy.
[02:59] <knome> SiDi, ehm?
[02:59] <SiDi> sorry, forgot to replug the laptop
[02:59] <dashua> that*
[03:00] <knome> dashua, i supposed so :)
[03:00] <dashua> Is Xubuntu doing something with the new xsplash?
[03:00] <SiDi> i seriously hope so, dashua
[03:00] <dashua> images will be pretty easy to change
[03:00] <dashua> It's pretty flawless here
[03:01] <SiDi> considering the state of our usplash im all keen on taking one of the good drafts for the ubuntu one and working on a blue version
[03:01] <dashua> I've been running it for a few days
[03:01] <SiDi> We completely lack testers :d
[03:01] <SiDi> still didnt use xsplash once
[03:01] <dashua> Oh wow.
[03:01] <SiDi> hehe
[03:01] <dashua> It's really nice, but I'm not sure why it hasn't dropped yet.
[03:02] <dashua> Maybe issues with other video drivers.
[03:02] <SiDi> no idea
[03:02] <SiDi> the new theme is there already ?
[03:02] <dashua> Not the user switcher
[03:03] <knome> GOSH!
[03:03] <dashua> Just the white shadowed Ubuntu logo, the new throbber, and the dark brown background
[03:04] <dashua> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBeNMk2W6hw
[03:04] <dashua> That's it.
[03:04] <dashua> Pretty sexxy.
[03:04] <knome> not bad.
[03:05] <SiDi> okey lets call it a day
[03:05] <SiDi> knome, dashua see you this week-end :)
[03:05] <dashua> SiDi, Nite mate.
[03:05] <SiDi> (i also have to release & package an exaile version tomorrow... completely forgot :D)
[03:06] <knome> meh
[03:06] <knome> night SiDi
[03:06] <SiDi> dashua: dont hesitate to join #xubuntu-devel from times to times btw ;)
[03:06] <knome> you will have a BIG mail waiting for you in the morning
[03:06] <SiDi> yay
[03:06] <SiDi> have a nice night both of you
[03:06] <dashua> SiDi, Ok np. :)
[08:56] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[09:38] <thorwil> is there a way to show a flickr pool oldest image first?
[10:25] <zniavre_> http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/984/capturelh.png
[10:28] <zniavre_> the Human icons creator is here ?
[10:28] <zniavre_> creator / dev / or mainteners*
[10:53] <zniavre> yes! i finally found good typo for the donwload folder in nautilus
[10:53] <zniavre> :o)
[10:59] <SiDi> what was it ?
[11:01] <zniavre> folder-download.png    basicaly
[11:01] <zniavre> :o)
[12:38] <SiDi> does anyone have screenies of the latest gdm in action please ? :P
[12:44] <mac_v> SiDi: huh? what latest gdm?
[12:44] <SiDi> the karmic one
[12:45] <mac_v> mat hasnt done them yet
[12:45] <SiDi> btw, if anyone sees mrdoob feel free to ping me :)
[12:45] <mac_v> SiDi: nope... not trading him to mice ;p
[12:46] <zniavre>  gdmflexiserver --xnest does not work anymore ..
[12:46] <SiDi> mac_v: i wanna use one of his iterations as a base for our gdm/xsplash :]
[12:47] <mac_v> SiDi: i knew that the minute you asked ... thats why wont allow ;)
[12:48] <SiDi> its free software ! meh
[17:20] <thorwil> kwwii: where do you see a number higher than 1702?
[17:30] <SiDi> thorwil: in N ?
[17:30] <SiDi> .. 1703 ?
[17:30]  * SiDi is already out
[17:31] <knome> hah
[17:31] <knome> SiDi, thorwil just thinks he is at year 1702
[17:32] <thorwil> 2 funny
[17:32] <SiDi> Well, i wouldnt argue if he was in Z/1702Z
[17:32] <SiDi> 1702 funny even
[17:32] <SiDi> knome: artwork mail !!
[17:34] <SiDi> thorwil: how is your new job btw ?
[17:34] <SiDi> did you finally get a fulltime one ?
[17:35] <thorwil> SiDi: freelance job. nearly over now and not sure about follow-ups
[17:35] <thorwil> but it was nice :)
[17:35] <SiDi> great
[17:41] <knome> SiDi, meh
[17:42] <knome> SiDi, i will answer it later today. guests :P
[17:43] <SiDi> damn
[17:43] <SiDi> we will never finish this weekend :d
[17:44] <knome> hah
[17:46] <SiDi> and the exaile devs dont wanna review patches cause they have too many homework or work projects
[17:46] <SiDi> so i cant get 0.3.0.2 released
[17:46] <SiDi> and MacSlow is too busy to review the notifyosd patch (its such a tiny patch.. i dont understand :P)
[17:58] <knome> SiDi, artwork mail ;P
[19:25] <SiDi> dashua: youve been invited into a group :P
[19:25] <kwwii> thorwil: on the front page of the group
[19:26] <thorwil> kwwii: that's where i read 1702
[19:26] <kwwii> it says 1937 photos currently
[19:26] <kwwii> lol
[19:26] <kwwii> 627 members
[19:26] <kwwii> http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-artwork/
[19:27]  * ckontros sees 1702
[19:28] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/Screenshot-1.png
[19:28] <kwwii> I swear I am not crazy :p
[19:29] <ckontros> Odd. Maybe it's something with you being in the group?
[19:29] <thorwil> http://i28.tinypic.com/rwrj89.jpg
[19:30] <ckontros> That's how mine looks.
[19:30] <thorwil> damn
[19:30] <thorwil> it amkes no difference if i'm logged in or not
[19:30] <thorwil> makes, even
[19:31] <thorwil> kwwii: i guess you have to assemble the link lists, then ;)
[19:31] <SiDi> i see 1702 too
[19:31] <SiDi> kwwii: you got a pro account
[19:31] <SiDi> maybe some photos are only avail for seeing to pro accounts
[19:32] <SiDi> if im logged in i see 1937 too
[19:33] <ckontros> I think pntphoto has some nice ones. ie: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pntphoto/3890923541/sizes/m/in/pool-556923@N24
[19:34] <thorwil> kwwii: do you see any option to filter the ones only visible with "pro" accounts?
[19:35] <SiDi> kwwii: do you have any documentation about gdm 2.27 / xsplash theming, by any chance ?
[20:26] <ckontros> dashua: What's with the lighter to the square use for the minimize glyph in current Hanzo? (strikes me odd but you might have a reason)
[20:30] <ckontros> *lighter center
[20:42] <kwwii> thorwil: no, I cannot see that
[21:06] <thorwil> kwwii: if we could get a list of those 1937, we could do a diff. but where i could simply use wget in a bash script, here we would need the cookie. anyway, good night!
[21:43] <ckontros> kwwii: vrms reports tangerine-icon-theme as non-free. That right?
[21:53] <FLOZz> ckontros: https://launchpad.net/tangerine-icon-theme : «  This project’s license has not been specified.  »
[21:53] <FLOZz> it's maybe the problem ?
[21:54] <ckontros> FLOZz: I figured it out. DFSG just doesn't see CC-BY-SA as totally non-free.
[21:54] <FLOZz> yes...
[21:55] <FLOZz> but where is the licence file ?
[21:55] <ckontros> Look at /usr/share/doc/tangerine-icon-theme
[21:55] <ckontros> Might be there.
[21:58] <FLOZz> ok thanks
[22:00] <kwwii> ckontros: no, that should not be right
[22:01] <kwwii> debian used to have a problem with ccbysa but from what I understand in the meantime it is not such a problem
[22:12] <ckontros> kwwii: Yeah. Package might need an update.