[00:12] <c_korn> will it be standard that only the system menu does not have icons in the first level ?
[00:13] <walters> c_korn: i believe that's changing upstream
[00:13] <andreasn> the standard is that only dynamic objects use a icon, and the system menu don't contain any of those
[00:14] <c_korn> so also the icons for applications/places and the second levels in the system menu are removed ?
[00:14] <andreasn> no, places are dynamic objects, so are the "apps" in the system menu
[00:15] <c_korn> hm, then the identation should be removed. looks like there are icons missing
[00:16] <andreasn> the identation is needed for when a menu has radiobuttons or checkboxes in a menu
[00:16] <andreasn> (other OSes does this too)
[00:17] <c_korn> yes, in application's menus. but I was referring to the System menu.
[00:17] <andreasn> it used to not be any indentation for a while, but that looked very odd in a lot of apps
[00:18] <c_korn> sure in apps. but what about the System menu ?
[00:19] <c_korn> it is a static menu. no checkboxes or radiobuttons. but has identation. while Applications/Places have icons. so it looks like there were icons missing in System (only on first level actually)
[00:20] <andreasn> not sure what's best there, stuff can be added to it with the 'Edit menu' option
[00:20] <andreasn> no idea how that would impact on ti
[00:20] <andreasn> it
[00:22] <c_korn> hm, this is true. so it also should have icons because it is dynamic ?
[00:23] <andreasn> you should ask mpt what he thinks when he comes around
[00:24] <andreasn> UI questions like this isn't really my main area, I only care about the visual design bits
[00:25] <c_korn> andreasn: ok, I will ask mpt. thanks.
[01:20] <TheMuso> Seems like /usr/lib/gnome-session/helpers/at-spi-registryd-wrapper is missing from the latest gnome-session.
[01:20] <TheMuso> c/
[01:25] <TheMuso> hrm seems its been removed from gnome-session upstream...
[01:30] <mclasen> at-spi-registryd connects to sm itself now
[01:30] <mclasen> and crashes doing so...
[01:31] <TheMuso> even better.
[01:34] <TheMuso> Hrm I see what I need to do to fix things up.
[01:34] <TheMuso> at least to get the desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart sorted out for at-spi.
[02:30] <darkham> how many possibilities i've to finde some of the new themes in karmic daily?
[02:30] <darkham> the daily iso?
[02:54] <darkham> the daily iso?
[02:55] <darkham> how many possibilities i've to find some of the new themes in karmic daily live-cd ?
[03:31] <darkham> how many possibilities i've to find some of the new themes in karmic daily live cd?
[09:16] <rugby471> mac_v: do you have the SVG for the progress icon handy? I need to re-export the icon
[10:13] <mac_v> rugby471: heya... was away  :) , got the icon?
[10:14] <rugby471> mac_v: yup
[10:14] <rugby471> mac_v: I was just updating it to be 24x24
[10:14] <mac_v> ok
[10:14] <rugby471> mac_v: and I made a script to simpify the exporting this time :-)
[10:14] <rugby471> *ssimplify
[10:14] <rugby471> *simplify
[10:14] <rugby471> :-)
[10:16] <mac_v> rugby471: heh , good to see some one like me... someone who has to make corrections for corrections ;p
[10:16] <rugby471> mac_v: hehe, last time I spent about half-an-hour, whereas this time it was 1 minute :-)
[10:17] <mac_v> rugby471: ^ i meant typos above ;D
[10:17] <rugby471> mac_v: ah yes that as well :-)
[13:02] <aquarius> Anyone know anything about aptdaemon? :)
[17:49] <ccheney> whatever is causing (or allows) pete's bug on facebook (prob gwibber) needs to be fixed asap