[19:31] <syder> hi
[19:35] <syder> k
[19:36] <syder> anybody here ?
[19:39] <erUSUL> hi
[19:39] <erUSUL> :|
[20:00] <niko> erUSUL: you have to work on your 'hi'
[20:00] <m4v> add some extra points in your charisma skill
[20:13] <erUSUL> m4v: indeed... being half-orc  does not help at all ;)
[20:14] <alefteris> can I devoice a user in a channel that is not moderated (+m)?
[20:15] <erUSUL> alefteris: quiet him ?
[20:16] <alefteris> how?
[20:16] <erUSUL> alefteris: +b %hostmask
[20:18] <alefteris> +b is not channel ban?
[20:18] <ubot4> In #ubuntu-irc, alefteris said: +b is not channel ban?
[20:18] <erUSUL> alefteris: i.e /mode +b %alefteris!*@*
[20:18] <erUSUL> alefteris: note the % in front of the hostmask
[20:19] <alefteris> what about it?
[20:19] <erUSUL> alefteris: that makes it a quiet not a ban
[20:19] <erUSUL> alefteris: afaics http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[20:20] <m4v> or /mode +q alefteris!*@*  which is the same, but less easy to confuse as a ban
[20:20] <m4v> but everyone else will see it as +b %asdasd though
[20:21] <alefteris> erUSUL, I would like to give some more people permission to moderate the channel, so I should give them rights to be able to quiet people? any idea what the flag is?
[20:21] <m4v> /msg chanserv help flags
[20:21] <alefteris> ok so i sould set flag +q right?
[20:23] <erUSUL> alefteris: dunno; you need to be op i guess (+o)
[20:24] <alefteris> yes so a basic setup could be +oqt
[20:25] <erUSUL> alefteris: there is no +q flag
[20:25] <erUSUL> alefteris: at least chanserv help does not list it
[20:27] <alefteris> I confused it with the channel modes, in the web page you send me :(
[20:27] <m4v> alefteris: the +q is a user mode, not a chanserv access flag
[20:27] <m4v> is for /mode +q nick/hostmask, it quiets users
[20:28] <alefteris> ok, what's the permission the for users to be able to do that?
[20:28] <alefteris> s/the/then
[20:28] <m4v> need to be op
[20:29] <alefteris> just that? cool
[20:29] <erUSUL> alefteris: +o I guess (as said already)
[20:29] <alefteris> ok thanks a lot all
[20:42] <niko> in a +m channel +b % don't stop him to talk
[20:42] <niko> until he devoicing him
[20:45] <erUSUL> niko: 21:14 < alefteris> can I devoice a user in a channel that is *not* moderated (+m)? ||| emphasis mine :)
[20:45] <niko> ah sorry.
[20:47] <alefteris> another question, using /mode quiet then says tha the user has been baned, so this is different than using the quiet command of the chanserv
[20:51] <erUSUL> alefteris: dunno... niko?
[20:54] <niko> alefteris: when you use chanserv quiet command, the guy is informed about who do that
[20:56] <alefteris> this is the only difference? I mean when I would like to do /mode quiet I need to become op, so the user will know probably who set ban on him
[20:56] <alefteris> so in both cases the user knows, right?
[20:57] <niko> yes
[20:59] <alefteris> when trying to use chanserv quiet, +o flag on the channel is not enough, what other perimission someone needs to use it?
[21:23] <niko> i think +r, but not sure