[00:00] <e370> ubuntu*
[00:00] <sebsebseb> e370: no OS is 100% secure
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[00:00] <Mike_lifeguard> e370: it isn't perfect, but it is very safe, yes
[00:00] <mrwes> e370, safe as a condom
[00:00] <mrwes> :)
[00:00] <trism> Fascination: also you could try right-clicking on the file and associating the .exe files with wine
[00:00] <Mike_lifeguard> mrwes wins :D
[00:00] <Fascination> trism: I already have.
[00:00] <thiebaude> e370, safe as a plane trip
[00:00]  * mrwes bows
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !language >  mrwes
[00:00] <e370> updates are vital?
[00:01] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: let's not go overboard 9_9
[00:01] <sebsebseb> e370: yes whatever OS your using you should get the updates for it
[00:01] <Sidewinder1> mrwes is humble, too.
[00:01] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: "condom" isn't even a /mild/ swear word 9_9
[00:01] <e370> i updated yesterday so i should be ok
[00:01] <sebsebseb> !ot > Mike_lifeguard
[00:01] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: stop being such a dick please
[00:01] <nono> ?
[00:01] <thiebaude> e370, you'll be ok if you run ubuntu,be using it since 2004
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !o4o >  mrwes  Mike_lifeguard
[00:02] <e370> yea but ubuntu is the os
[00:02] <e370> facebook is a website
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !o4o  > Mike_lifeguard
[00:02] <mrwes> sigh....d00d sebsebseb you're wired too tight
[00:02] <sebsebseb> mrwes: heh
[00:02] <e370> theres still cookies and things stored in my pc
[00:02] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: please stop being a dick. Also, I have ubottu ignored, so don't bother spamming with stupidity you're too lazy to type out yourself
[00:02] <mrwes> condoms promote safe sex
[00:03] <KushedVapors> how can i install libglade0 in ubuntu 9,04
[00:03] <genii> !ot
[00:03] <thiebaude> Mike_lifeguard | ot
[00:03] <mrwes> Does anyone have a solid mkv to mp4 conversion bash script?
[00:04] <mrwes> for Ubuntu of course
[00:04] <Mike_lifeguard> thiebaude: That doesn't work. Also, sebsebseb's spamming isn't offtopic. Please be aware of your surroundings before typing such nonsense.
[00:04] <Sidewinder1> e370>Not to worry; anything written to exploit winbloze won't function in linux. :-)
[00:04] <trism> Sidewinder1: I dunno some malware runs pretty well in wine
[00:04] <e370> :D
[00:04] <bazhang> KushedVapors, you mean libglade2-0
[00:05] <Sidewinder1> Wouldn't touch wine...:-)
[00:05] <Fascination> trism: I just checked winefile, and I cannot see the drive that vista, and the rest of my hard drive is partitioned to.
[00:05] <whatnow> mrwes: Doesn't ffmpeg just work?
[00:05] <SeaPhor> !wine
[00:05] <trism> Fascination: try adding the path to the mount in winecfg as a drive letter
[00:05] <wily> does anyone know a good ftp file uploading site i can use to upload a driver and then download through wget?
[00:05] <e370> windblows sucks, it eats my pc resources up so much, i used to get 100% cpu load most of the day
[00:05] <mrwes> whatnow, yah I have the full version, unrestricted installed
[00:05] <KushedVapors> bazhang: no libglade0
[00:05] <Sidewinder1> trism>Guess some folks do though, I stand corrected.
[00:05] <mrwes> I actually compiled it myself
[00:06] <Mike_lifeguard> Brasero is giving me coasters for both CDs and DVDs (logs at http://p.defau.lt/?3BVdrPNQ_dSAx_DU3CzR8g and http://p.defau.lt/?zgi_GgEfQIpBEATxrr1IeQ respectively) - anyone know what would cause burning to fail in 100% of cases with an "unknown error"?
[00:06] <KushedVapors> bazhang: need it to make my canon i250 printer to work
[00:06] <mrwes> Mike_lifeguard, use K3b and be done with it
[00:07] <Sidewinder1> mrwes>How did you make the eyes in your Os?
[00:07] <bazhang> KushedVapors, where do you see libglade0 ? its not in hardy, intrepid or jaunty that I can see
[00:08] <Sidewinder1> mrwes>Special font or somethin'?
[00:08] <KushedVapors> bazhang: yea ikno
[00:08] <whatnow> mrwes: I didn't find a script yet that's easier than running ffmpeg manually... what's the problem, what doesn't it do?
[00:08] <mrwes> Sidewinder1, uh?
[00:08] <mrwes> whatnow, well I'm actually trying to decide if mencoder or ffmep is better
[00:08] <Sidewinder1> mrwes>Your upper case Os have a "dot" in the middle.
[00:09] <SeaPhor> bazhang, libglade0 was in dapper
[00:09] <whatnow> mrwes: that changes all the time, I guess. With every update.
[00:09] <bazhang> SeaPhor, thanks KushedVapors see above
[00:09] <mrwes> O
[00:09] <Sidewinder1> 0
[00:09] <mrwes> Sidewinder1, not on this end brutha
[00:10] <Sidewinder1> Wow mine did, now yours doesn't???
[00:10] <Sidewinder1> 0
[00:10] <e370> whats the maxiumum hard drive space used when installing ubuntu, my netbooks sdd is 8gb
[00:10] <KushedVapors> bazhang: yea tryin to follow this guide:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=145142
[00:10] <Sidewinder1> Duh, it's a zero; ain't I stupid?!!!
[00:11] <KushedVapors> bazhang:  should i force the install
[00:11] <davidscott> Hi everybody. how can i change the color of foreground in irc?
[00:11] <davidscott> with a command!
[00:11] <Aethelred> davidscott: I guess that would depend on what client you use.
[00:11] <thiebaude> e370, you dont mean min hard disk space?
[00:11] <davidscott> konversation
[00:12] <thiebaude> minimun
[00:12] <Aethelred> davidscott: I use irssi. Sorry I can't help you  :)_
[00:12] <e370> no i mean maximum
[00:12] <thiebaude> oh,ok
[00:12] <e370> to have almost everything from the netbook ubuntu installed
[00:13] <davidscott> ok. it's not possible to use a command? like "color" propriety or other?
[00:13] <whatnow> What, colors can be changed? w
[00:14] <Flannel> davidscott: I'm sure there is.  You might try asking in #kubuntu, they'll be more familiar with Konversation
[00:15] <KushedVapors> bazhang: soooo?
[00:15] <azaz3ll> Hi someone knows about aide? i have a problem when i run the process... first i run: sudo aide -i and averything is ok, but when i try to check it it says aide.db it could't open the file...
[00:17] <z3r0> is there a program for plc control and programing for linux>
[00:17] <ubuntu> im trying to install ubuntu on laptop but the partitioner doesn't give option to install side by side with vista. 40gb hdd 9.4gb free. Any ideas?
[00:18] <pvvni> ubuntu: what c
[00:18] <pvvni> *v
[00:18] <ubuntu> 9.04
[00:18] <ubuntu> i installed alongside windows fine the other day
[00:18] <lovre> how can i play ASX stream in linux? I tried opening it with Amarok, but it doesnt play. Neither with Audacious....
[00:18] <ubuntu> *xp
[00:19] <Wawel_> lovre: vlc?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: the guided install should be able to reize  the Windows partition for space for Ubuntu, plus there are better ways to partition
[00:19] <ubuntu> sebsebseb: this is what i assumed
[00:20] <lovre> Wawel_: let me try....
[00:20] <ubuntu> as that was an option when i installed on another computer
[00:20] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: upload a screenshot  of   system > administration > partition editor, and i'll take a look
[00:21] <omgd> Here i got it http://www.bombshock.com/forumsarchive/drugs/how%20to%20make%20meth.html
[00:21] <djanatyn> Is it possible to run the ubuntu live cd and install to a USB drive using a regular install? (not the usb program)
[00:21] <omgd> Oh shit
[00:21] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: By the  way, why do you want to dual boot with Windows?
[00:21] <omgd> Soory
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !language | omgd
[00:22] <omgd> Sorry man
[00:22] <lovre> can someone please try and play this stream, maybe its not only my comp that cant play it: http://www.radiomaria.org/media/croatia-hq.asx
[00:22] <sebsebseb> omgd: I wasn't offended, but still
[00:22] <lovre> Wawel_: can you please try to play the stream?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> omgd: the bot trigger
[00:23] <ubuntu> sebsebseb: gfs computer, she wants to keep windows
[00:23] <omgd> Lol
[00:23] <omgd> Sorry but the link was for a diff
[00:23] <Wawel_> ok
[00:23] <omgd> Place
[00:23] <fccf> !lol | omgd
[00:23] <ubuntu> http://imagebin.ca/view/uBz23Z.html
[00:23] <omgd> Its atutorial how to make crystAl meth
[00:23] <Wawel_> hmm
[00:23] <SeaPhor> ubuntu, i can help...
[00:24] <mrwes> OMG is now considered annoying?
[00:24] <cornet> gah
[00:24]  * cornet puts the stupid bot on ignore
[00:24] <mrwes> so I take it WTF is out too?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: I see, well with enough RAM, she can probably virtual machine it for what she wants to do inside Ubuntu,   plus there are probably alternatives
[00:24] <Mike_lifeguard> cornet: it's not the bot, it is the stupid people who don't know how to use it *appropriately*
[00:24] <w000t> where do I find the release info of the latest ubuntu release.
[00:24] <sebsebseb> !language |  mrwes
[00:24] <mackjr> has anyone here successfully installed blueman?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> !notes | wonderbear
[00:24] <sebsebseb> !notes |  w000t
[00:24] <mrwes> w000t, from a terminal type lsb_release -a
[00:24] <sebsebseb> wonderbear: sorry did that to wrong person
[00:24] <Mike_lifeguard> sebsebseb: dude, take a pill
[00:24] <ubuntu> sebsebseb: why can't it dual boot?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> Mike_lifeguard: off topic!
[00:25] <w000t> mrwes: I am on OS X, thinking to switch to LInux
[00:25] <mrwes> ohh... sorry I read that wrong
[00:25] <mrwes> heh
[00:25] <Techie> ubuntu: cant you use the install inside of windows feature on the ubuntu install cd?
[00:25] <ubuntu> sebsebseb: i've said ubuntu is worth it because its faster...
[00:25] <ubuntu> SeaPhor: you can help?
[00:25] <SeaPhor> ubuntu, yes
[00:25] <geekaia> es
[00:25] <crazyguy510> Anyone have success using Totem Movie Player?
[00:25] <geekaia> Yes
[00:25] <geekaia> use Ubuntu
[00:25] <geekaia> is a greate Linux Distro
[00:26] <Techie> w000t- what mac are you using?
[00:26] <sebsebseb> ubuntu: 9.10  has Ext4 by default, and  Ext4 is rather fast to bootup and shutdown and  the disk check
[00:26] <w000t> Techie:  Hackintosh
[00:26] <ubuntu> Techie: Using LiveCD now
[00:26] <mikobuntu> i personally downgraded to 8.10 after having so many errors withb pulse-jack modules,....so hopefully 9.10 has these issues sorted?
[00:26] <crazyguy510> I can't seem to get totem to work correctly anyone have sugestions
[00:26] <Dyinglight12> i need help with my defragmentor
[00:26] <ubuntu> Techie: but partitioner didn't give option to share hdd between both OSs
[00:26] <SeaPhor> ubuntu, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=52
[00:26] <six> any idea why my bios wouldnt load my ipod which is on disk mode? i am tryiing to boot from it
[00:26] <mrwes> w000t, get Live CD, burn it, and give it test drive
[00:27] <Techie> ubuntu: insert the livecd while booted in windows
[00:27] <asmm> do you guys reccomend ubuntu or ubuntu remix for a old laptop?
[00:27] <bazhang> http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-i250 KushedVapors
[00:27] <asmm> i like the gui of the remix but i dont want my apps installable to be limited
[00:27] <mikobuntu> crrazyguy510 , have you run totem from the terminal?
[00:27] <ubuntu> Techie: different installation process?
[00:27] <mrwes> asmm, probably Xbuntu
[00:27] <trism> asmm: I'm using ubuntu with icewm in a really old laptop and it works pretty well
[00:27] <mrwes> asmm, what's the specs?
[00:27] <Techie> ubuntu: yes, it installs inside the windows partition
[00:27] <asmm> mrwes: its not that old, 2gb ram and 64-bit AMD
[00:27] <asmm> 1.9ghz
[00:28] <mrwes> asmm, ahh...well you said OLD
[00:28] <KushedVapors> bazhang: already tried that and didnt work
[00:28] <asmm> amd turion..
[00:28] <asmm> mrwes: well 2005'ish is old :)
[00:28] <trism> asmm: ahh that's not really old, this laptop is a PIII with 64MB of ram hehe
[00:28] <mrwes> asmm, not to Linux :)
[00:28] <asmm> mrwes: im thinking of the remix version even if i can handle regular ubuntu
[00:28] <asmm> that gui is sexy :) :)
[00:28] <thiebaude> trism, and i have a 9yr old computer
[00:28] <ubuntu> Techie: ok will it allow dual boot? or is it vm
[00:28] <mrwes> asmm, never ran the remix version, what is it?
[00:29] <Techie> asmm- my powerboook G4 is old, that is new
[00:29] <asmm> mrwes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
[00:29] <Techie> ubuntu: yes it allows for dual boot and is probably the safest way to do it as it loads a grub entry into the windows boot.ini
[00:29] <ubuntu> Techie: ok thanks wil do now
[00:29] <mrwes> asmm, isn't that designed for netbooks?
[00:30] <xOrphenochx> anyone having an issue creating lvm partitions in karmic?
[00:30] <asmm> yeah it is..
[00:30] <asmm> im gonna just instal lregular ubuntu
[00:30] <asmm> can i dual boot xp?
[00:30] <Bluey> asmm - yes you can dual boot xp
[00:30] <asmm> if so, how do i do so if i setup ubuntu first?
[00:30] <asmm> on a formatted hdd
[00:30] <asmm> err
[00:31] <asmm> how will i install xp if i install ubuntu first
[00:31] <Bluey> asmm you install windows first
[00:31] <asmm> do i have to partition?
[00:31] <asmm> oh
[00:31] <FloodBot1> asmm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:31] <asmm> okay.
[00:31] <mrwes> asmm, you'll have to reinstall grub if you install Ubuntu before Windows XP
[00:31] <Bluey> windows will grab the boot manager and your hosed -
[00:31] <Bluey> yes
[00:31] <mrwes> kakab00m
[00:31] <asmm> and when ubuntu installs how do i make sure it doesnt format the whole drive?
[00:31] <asmm> do i have to make a partition for ubuntu?
[00:31] <asmm> because i dont like partitions ^^
[00:32] <asmm> i always run out of space lol
[00:32] <thiebaude> asmm, yes
[00:32] <scunizi> asmm: use guided partitioning or manual partitioning..
[00:32] <asmm> true
[00:32] <fez> asmm: no, see wubi
[00:32] <namuch> can anyone tell me how to fix a problem with hal not installing with a policykit error "symbol not found: kit_getpwnam"?
[00:32] <mrwes> asmm, my son you have some reading to do: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[00:32] <asmm> i guess i cant have a NTFS and EXT3 on the same drive
[00:32] <diogo_79> hi guys
[00:32] <scunizi> asmm: sure.. just on different partitions
[00:32] <mrwes> hey diogo_79
[00:32] <asmm> yes i meant the same partition
[00:32] <asmm> .
[00:32] <kchapman> @asmm, yeah, you can... I'm doin it as we speak! :D
[00:32] <Bluey> asmm -- I dunno about ext3 but I have ntfs and resier on the same drive
[00:32] <diogo_79> anyone knows how to configured a gadmin openvpn client??
[00:32] <kchapman> What, no.
[00:32] <thiebaude> !partition
[00:32] <kchapman> not on the same partition...
[00:33] <fez> you can also install ubuntu directly onto an NTFS partition
[00:33] <Bluey> no diff partitions
[00:33] <scunizi> Bluey: on the same partition?
 you can also install ubuntu directly onto an NTFS partition
[00:33] <asmm> id like to do so
[00:33] <Bluey> scun - no different partitions
[00:33] <fez> 18:32 < fez> asmm: no, see wubi
[00:33] <gizmobay> can someone tell me how to shut off the dkms nvidia install that it trys to do on every boot?
[00:33] <gizmobay> I had to manually install the nvidia drivers
[00:33] <Gnea> fez: ORLY?
[00:34] <kchapman> Hey, Sorry. :P I know I asked this a couple hours ago, but I had to leave the kbd and was not able to save the response. Here goes: I just installed my system on an ext4 FS, what can I do to prolong my SSDs life? I don't have any swap, and I've already set my cache / temporary folders to point to /dev/shm . Are there any mount options I can use to keep ext4's ssd munching default behaviour at bay?
[00:34] <asmm> thank you fez.
[00:34] <fez> !wubi
[00:34] <asmm> fez i assume it will ask to dual boot on startup?
[00:34] <scunizi> gizmobay: did you uninstall the ubuntu supplied nvidia bits prior to manually installing the newer nvidia driver?
[00:34] <asmm> i mean * os selection
[00:34] <fez> asmm, I have no tried it, read their web page
[00:34] <rww> I note that Wubi installs into a file. So the ext3 goodness is all inside a file, not mixed in with the NTFS filesystem proper.
[00:34] <gizmobay> I thought I did
[00:35] <asmm> i think it runs as an application and not dual boots fez
[00:35] <asmm> does anyone know?
[00:35] <Gnea> kchapman: install more ram
[00:35] <scunizi> gizmobay: because dkms is usually beneficial.. what exactly is happening.
[00:35] <fez> asmm, I doubt that
[00:35] <fez> asmm, although the installer is windows based I believe it runs without an emulation layer
[00:35] <asmm> ih nm fez - You keep Windows as it is, Wubi only adds an extra option to boot into Ubuntu.
[00:35] <diogo_79> anyone knows how to configured a gadmin openvpn client??
[00:35] <JanC> wubi runs as an application, the resulting install runs as a dual boot
[00:36] <gizmobay> It attempts to install 173 something
[00:36] <fruitloops> I have working 3g internet on my Ubuntu 8.04 - I want to share this connection on my lan. How do I do that (I've looked up ipmasq, and tried finding docs, I've even found a ubuntu how-to: no)
[00:36] <phanbt> hi guys  what's better than wireshark? and tcpdump? that doesn't have a buffer
[00:36] <gizmobay> I upgraded to kernel 2.6.30 so I downloaded directly from nvidia
[00:36] <sebsebseb> JanC: not a proper one with real partitions and that,  plus wubi can  go werid on people
[00:36] <rww> asmm: It doesn't run as an application. It puts an entry into the Windows bootloader pointing to a program that reads from the filesystem-in-a-file and boots from it.
[00:36] <fruitloops> phaero, ncat?
[00:36] <fruitloops> netcat
[00:36] <scunizi> gizmobay: uninstall dkms and then look in synaptic for nvidia bits that might still be installed..
[00:36] <rww> so it's like dualbooting, only you're running from a file inside a partition, instead of a partition.
[00:36] <JanC> sebsebseb: it's not weirder than a live-CD
[00:36] <Gnea> fez, asmm: wubi installs as an application, which uses hard drive space on the ntfs partition as a virtual drive, which it is able to bootstrap into via ntloader
[00:37] <sebsebseb> asmm: Wubi can also  go wrong on people, to the extent, where they can't  boot up Ubuntu or Windows
[00:37] <fruitloops> How can I share my ubuntu's 3d connection on my lan
[00:37] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, 2 days ago someone came in here with big problems with wubi
[00:37] <asmm> im sure wubi will be fine for me.
[00:37] <asmm> thank you.
[00:37] <JanC> if you want to run ubuntu as an application that's also possible BTW
[00:37] <asmm> if it crashes my windows i dont really care
[00:37] <asmm> i dont have any data on my lappie :)
[00:37] <kchapman> I can't install more ram, because it's built in. But that's aside from the point: I'm trying to find out how to disable certain features of ext4 that have tradeoffs with writing/rewriting which wears out an ssd
[00:37] <Gnea> asmm: fairly unlikely
[00:37] <Achilles`> OK.. this is strange... first I get the error :
[00:37] <Achilles`> GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; and now I am not able to start a terminal!
[00:38] <sebsebseb> asmm:   also  you don't get a real proper file system  with  Wubi,  you do with real partitining,   oh  and  Ext4 is worth it, with  a proper kernel and all that, got to wait for 9.10 for that,  altough it's optional for 9.04,  just a bit  hmm, because of the kernel they have and that
[00:38] <Achilles`> using Ubuntu 9.04
[00:38] <sebsebseb> asmm: yeah 10 seconds or so boot up :)  and  really quick shut down, and  disk checking
[00:38] <Defcon> #remote-exploit
[00:38] <Gnea> kchapman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1178209
[00:39] <Achilles`> Any ideas why this is happening/
[00:39] <sebsebseb> asmm: ,but  if  you want  try 9.04 in Wubi,  and then I hope  you put 9.10 on for real with proper partitions
[00:39] <kchapman> Thankthee, Gnea! :D
[00:39] <sd32> is anyone else experiencing fullscreen flash crash in firefox and is there any way to fix it?
[00:39] <Gnea> sebsebseb: the filesystem is proper in wubi.
[00:39] <sebsebseb> Gnea: Ext2 isn't it?
[00:39] <Gnea> sebsebseb: uhm, what? ext3 and ext4 are ext2, you know
[00:40] <JanC> I guess you can use whatever filesystem you want in Wubi
[00:40] <sebsebseb> Gnea: Ext4 is better than the previous ones :)   as long as a distro has a proper kernel for it and all that
[00:40] <nono> fat32
[00:40] <rww> Gnea: ext3 is backwards compatible with ext2. ext4 isn't necessarily backwards compatible with either.
[00:40] <gizmobay> thanks, I'll give it a try
[00:40] <nono> ;)
[00:40] <gizmobay> I'm going to reboot
[00:40] <Gnea> rww: oh? ok.
[00:40] <racha> i need dock for ubuntu with minimize and maximize effects anyone can help me ?
[00:40] <fruitloops> I want to share ppp0 to eth0 and have my machine act as a gateway (even without DHCP, it is fine) so ipmasq and dnsmaq? how?
[00:40] <rww> anyway, I think Wubi uses ext3. It's been a while, though.
[00:40] <asmm> does wubi install a dynamically expanding virtual disk?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> Gnea: actsaully even in 9.04 it's pretty good,  it's just people might get issues
[00:40] <Gnea> sebsebseb: so ext3 is ext2, but ext4 is ext4 - but, ext4 has to be tuned for SSD's, it seems... that's kind of cool
[00:40] <SeaPhor> UMMM why would anyone recommend wubi?
[00:41] <racha> Gnea: U are here now ?
[00:41] <KushedVapors> cuz it sucks?
[00:41] <Gnea> sebsebseb: that's what the tunign is for
[00:41] <Gnea> racha: yes?
[00:41] <Flannel> SeaPhor: Because there's some good reasons for using it
[00:41] <Gnea> racha: where did we leave off?
[00:41] <racha> Gnea: u get anything what can help me about my Sound Card ?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Gnea: tuned for  SSD's ??? meaning?
[00:41] <sd32> cant believe ephipany is more stable then firefox..sad
[00:41] <Gnea> sebsebseb: see the url i pasted to kchapman
[00:41] <sebsebseb> Flannel: such as?
[00:41] <JanC> Gnea: you can make ext3 (almost?) as "SSD-friendly" as ext4 if you use the appropriate mount options
[00:42] <Gnea> JanC: probably
[00:42] <Flannel> sebsebseb: Not needing to repartition?  I *know* I've been over this with you in the past.
[00:42] <JanC> it's just mostly the writeback delay & stuff like that  :P
[00:42] <racha> Gnea: Anyway i need Something to make my port on sound card like on Windows
[00:42] <sebsebseb> Flannel: maybe
[00:42] <racha> Gnea: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[00:42] <Gnea> racha: oh yeah - did you try pulseaudio yet?
[00:42] <racha> Gnea: where can i get that ?
[00:42] <SeaPhor> Flannel, i have tried and tried and cannot find one thing useful for it except to further complicate transitioning windows users to linux
[00:42] <fruitloops> Is it possible to share your ppp0 internet connection with your eth0 connection and setup your machine as a firewall ?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> Flannel: ,but laods of people recommend against Wubi still, with  good reasons
[00:43] <thiebaude> wubi isn't even supported by canonical
[00:43] <Flannel> SeaPhor: It's easy to install and doesn't require them to do anything scary.
[00:43] <Flannel> sebsebseb: That's fine, this channel does not.
[00:43] <racha> Gnea: i can find just "PulseAudio Device Chooser" on Add/Remove App.
[00:43] <Gnea> racha: it should be on the system already - it's an application layer that interacts with your soundcard drivers to provide support when it doesn't exist, sometimes
[00:43] <SeaPhor> but temporary
[00:43] <JanC> fruitloops: what's ppp0 & what's eth0 ?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: it used to be unoffical, but then as of I think it's 9.04 it becomes  offical
[00:43] <sebsebseb> Flannel: yeah I know this channal is also for supporting Wubi
[00:44] <Timothy_> eth0 = your first network card
[00:44] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: 9.04,  no I think 8.04 actsaully
[00:44] <racha> Gnea: And how to start it ? or what i need ?:S
[00:44] <Timothy_> ppp0 is usually modem or sums
[00:44] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, someone told me that yesterday
[00:44] <Timothy_> vpn
[00:44] <shabui> wee
[00:44] <sd32> <removing firefox....now
[00:44] <gorgut> hey, folks. I'm trying to install pyxfce and the configure script keeps erroring out with libxfce4mcs-client-1.0 missing. I don't see this anywhere in the jaunty repos. Ideas?
[00:45] <fruitloops> JanC, I am curious about your question. I was just thinking about it. And wondering why you asked it
[00:45] <fez> fruitloops: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 is what 2 seconds of google searching told me
[00:45] <fruitloops> JanC - do you not know, or are you trying to make a point that these names could mean anything?
[00:45] <Flannel> thiebaude: Universe isn't supported by Canonical either.  Wubi is on the Desktop CD, which is more endorsement than universe.
[00:45] <Gnea> !pulseaudio | racha
[00:45] <JanC> fruitloops: because those can be about anything, and you don't say what you mean by "share" either
[00:45] <Gnea> racha: check that URL, it'll tell you all about it
[00:45] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, when i uninstalled wubi before i had to do more than delete that from windows
[00:46] <fruitloops> fez, two seconds of reading the backlog could show you I pasted the same link
[00:46] <Defcon> #remote-exploit
[00:46] <racha> Gnea: i installed >PulseAudio Device Chooser
[00:46] <racha> PulseAudio, previously known as Polypaudio, is a sound server for POSIX and WIN32 systems. It is a drop in replacement for the ESD sound server with much better latency, mixing/re-sampling quality and overall architecture.
[00:46] <thiebaude> Flannel, ok
[00:46] <Guest57958> nickname
[00:46] <fruitloops> JanC, please define every word you used in that sentence. It took humans 20 years to decide to use conventions in naming, and when I rely on their conventions, you decide to disregard them to be difficult?
[00:47] <Guest57958> how do i change my nick name
[00:47] <sebsebseb> Guest57958:   /knick newname
[00:47] <fccf> Guest57958: thats /nick newname
[00:47] <fruitloops> So when someone says eth0 - take the conventional meaning of it
[00:48] <Defcon> ok i think it worked
[00:48] <racha> Gnea: i installed it what next ?
[00:48] <Flannel> !ics | fruitloops
[00:48] <Guest3556> it went back to guest lol
[00:48] <newser> how can I change the screen resolution? I am using an external monitor, but the resolution is not being detected properly. What can I do so that it autodetects the screen resolution?
[00:48] <fruitloops> Thanks Flannel .
[00:48] <JanC> Guest3556: you can't use someone else's nick...
[00:49] <shpond> hey
[00:49] <sd32> !firefox
[00:49] <newser> I tried to change it in Display preferences, but I only get two options, and both are generic resolutions
[00:49] <Gnea> racha: now you should test it out
[00:49] <sd32> !firefox-3.5
[00:49] <sebsebseb> I  wonder if there are actsually truely  any  valid reasons for  Wubi  being better than real partitioning at times,  other than people not  being able to install Ubuntu in other ways for whatever reason
[00:49] <fruitloops> I facepalmed so hard when I looked at the TOC for ipmasq's docs. About, purpose, history, resources, design issues, naming schemes, rules, assumptions, oddball networks... NOT ONE 'How to' title or a user oriented, task based actual using the application doc
[00:49] <egaudet> Does anyone have any experience PXE booting windows xp from ubuntu?
[00:50] <racha> Gnea: and how , btw. i told u i am noob for ubuntu :) this is my first day on it ?:)
[00:50] <sd32> grrr they stiill have the shrintoko thing
[00:50] <fruitloops> hands up who cares about the about, purpose, history or more resources of ipmasq?
[00:50] <newser> which command shows me the screen resolution? or how can I detect it?
[00:50] <fccf> fruitloops: actually the history of ipmasq makes for some interesting reading
[00:51] <Gnea> racha: hrm, well if it's running, it should be working already - that's why i told you that URL because it tells you how to use it
[00:51] <fruitloops> fccf, no it doesn't not when you are in docs it doesn't.
[00:51] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, it seems a safety blanket
[00:51] <fruitloops> also, fccf - first three paragraphs of internet connection sharing, in a help section, describes - ffs, get to the point.
[00:51] <fruitloops> Why the hell does nobody get to the point
[00:51] <shpond> good
[00:52] <fccf> !attitude | fruitloops see also !guidelines
[00:52] <Flannel> fruitloops: Please mind your language.
[00:52] <fruitloops> What does the writer think I am there to do? Put a link 'what is internet connection sharing' if I am unable to imagine it is sharing an internet connection
[00:52] <Gnea> fruitloops: because different people require different points.
[00:53] <fruitloops> Flannel, sorry, did I swear? Gnea , good point, luckily they invented hyperlinks though
[00:53] <Gnea> fruitloops: if you don't like the documentation, then write new documentation and submit it.
[00:53] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: A virtual machine  of Ubuntu would be like that
[00:53] <thiebaude> for sure
[00:53] <sd32> why does a install of firefox 3.5 include 3.0????????????
[00:53] <Flannel> sd32: Because when you install firefox 3.5, you're only adding 3.5, you're not removing 3.0
[00:53] <Gnea> !ff3.5
[00:54] <fruitloops> Gnea, I might
[00:54] <ceil420> configure: error: openssl DES_fcrypt() not found <=- how do i fix that?
[00:55] <sd32> Flannel, Ive already removed 3.0 and it wants to reinstall it everytime i try to install 3.5
[00:56] <panv> helloooo.. please, does anyone know how to remove a locale created by "localedef" ??
[00:56] <ceil420> sd32, install the package firefox-3.5, not just "firefox"
[00:56] <rww> sd32: because the dependencies of some Firefox related packages are set to require Firefox 3.0 instead of 3.5.
[00:57] <rww> sd32: It's annoying, but there's probably some obscure reason for it so I just install them both and ignore firefox-3.0.
[00:58] <sd32> rww, i keep getting a fullscreen flash crash in firefox and am wondering if it has anything to do with it
[00:58] <sd32> ceil420, DID THAT
[00:59] <rww> sd32: shouldn't be. firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5 don't interfere with each other
[00:59] <racha> Gnea: i dont knowe how to use it :S
[00:59] <sd32> ceil420, sorry caps
[00:59] <ceil420> ...
[00:59] <O__o> is there a program that allows me to send message to windows?
[00:59] <fruitloops> The following directions are incomplete and should not be considered a full description of what needs to be done to configure ipmasq: sudo aptitude install ipmasq
[00:59] <Gnea> racha: as long as it's running, you should be using it as long as applications are pointed to it
[01:00] <sd32> rww,ceil420, thanks
[01:00] <geekaia> !firefox-3.5
[01:00] <fruitloops> !!Yes. I got that far. Wow. Really. The docs basically consist of usefully telling you to install ipmasq. oh fail.
[01:00] <Pici> fruitloops: Please don't prefix your replies with exclamation points, it confuses ubottu
[01:00] <racha> Gnea: look now its 2:00 AM so i cant Turn on my speakers u will be here on 9:00AM or 12:00PM + ?
[01:00] <fruitloops> geekaia, change that ff35 trigger to actually put the sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 firefox-3;5-gnome-support command into it
[01:01] <sd32> ill just stick with ephipany
[01:01] <fruitloops> Pici, make ubottu /msg invalid trigger replies to the person - it stops channel traffic
[01:01] <Gnea> racha: I make no guarantees as to what time I will be on, but other people know how to use pulseaudio
[01:01] <Gnea> racha: #pulseaudio is also a good place to ask
[01:02] <panv> helloooo.. please, does anyone know how to remove a locale created by "localedef" ??
[01:02] <mlgstudy> this is my first time on here. I have an error message that effect my internet browser, is it to ask for help here?
[01:02] <sd32> firefox in linux=fubar
[01:02] <blip-> guys I need help with mounting FAT32 partition in fstab, specifically the umask and gid options... I'm using this line but it causes me not to have permissions to the mounted partition.      /dev/sda6  /share          vfat    utf8,umask=007,gid=users 0       0
[01:02] <racha> Gnea, ok i will try to do that on 9:00 AM  cya :) and tnx for help
[01:02] <Flannel> fruitloops: Those directions are for an alternative method, what's wrong with the method listed above (the non-alternative?)
[01:02] <blip-> I can't find any proper explanation of umask and gid which are specific to ubuntu from what I've read
[01:03] <DJ-Nomad> hey all I have a updating error here is the error
[01:03] <DJ-Nomad> http://pastebay.com/53554
[01:04] <fruitloops> Flannel, I don't trust them, they say backup resolv.conf, which doesn't get edited, then you make another change to another file, and it doesn't state if this will affect the resolv file
[01:04] <fruitloops> also, what is wrong with putting an e in resolve.conf ?
[01:04] <cwillu> blip-, any guide should work, ubuntu doesn't do anything weird with umask and gid
[01:04] <DJ-Nomad> it told me to do this
[01:04] <DJ-Nomad> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[01:04] <DJ-Nomad> both was not told at same time
[01:05] <jtownsend90> hey does anyone know anything about virtual box from sun?
[01:05] <fruitloops> Flannel, also I guarantee you it won't work
[01:05] <DJ-Nomad> jtownsend90,  I have heard it was very good virtual machine
[01:05] <fruitloops> Flannel, also sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 doesn't survive a restart
[01:05] <jtownsend90> lol, well for the most part it is a good vm but i need some help with usb and hdd support
[01:06] <DJ-Nomad> jtownsend90,  I have seen others advise in having to use the "addons" but it was another word
[01:06] <DJ-Nomad> jtownsend90,  I have heard to use the non ose version for better usb
[01:06] <CaPilot> Quick question, during install of the 9.04 server distro at 76% it asks for a media change any ideas on how to fix.  Since there is only 1 CD
[01:06] <jtownsend90> hmm...i guess i could give it a shot, would it be best to run linux in a vm or windows in a vm?
[01:06] <six> anyone know how to make ipod bootable?
[01:07] <blip-> I just installed 9.04... it came with with ffox 3.0 .... I installed 3.5 and uninstalled 3.  do I have to edit the firefox sym link manually  ?
[01:07] <blip-> so that I don't have to type firefox-3.5 in the term each time
[01:07] <DJ-Nomad> I would rather run linux
[01:07] <DJ-Nomad> main
[01:07] <lorenzo__> hello
[01:07] <jtownsend90> well thats what i have setup now, but at the same time a lot of my "data" is windows kernel based
[01:07] <DJ-Nomad> jtownsend90,  sorry for only having second hand info for you
[01:08] <fccf> blip-: gid=users is wrong for one ... gid=100 might be better and you might want to make it 'rw' and ... this line will help '/media/windows  vfat auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0 '
[01:08] <shiznebit_> quick question, how do i check if a usb device was identified ?
[01:08] <fccf> shiznebit_: lsusb
[01:08] <shiznebit_> ah
[01:09] <shiznebit_> how do i find new video links
[01:09] <zsquareplusc> shiznebit_: "dmesg" usually contains log messages of the drivers loaded when the device is known
[01:09] <DJ-Nomad> shiznebit_, in terminal type lsusb ,I think it lists usb devices
[01:09] <DJ-Nomad> sorry late on that lol
[01:09] <shiznebit_> say i plugged in a happaguae usb tv tuner
[01:09] <sd32> blip-, firefox 3.5  because the dependencies of some Firefox related packages are set to require Firefox 3.0 instead of 3.5.
[01:09] <DJ-Nomad> shiznebit_,  what device are you looking for?
[01:10] <shiznebit_> DJ-Nomad: ^^
[01:10] <CaPilot> anyone have any idea why the 9.04 server distro is asking for a disk change at 76%
[01:10] <jtownsend90> oh yeah on more quick question, I have an external hard drive that i used to have a linux distro on, well i reformated it in windows and added a bunch of data in it, then I want to be able to boot windows 7 from it, but when i keep it in it tries to load grub at start up and says grub error 22 is there anyway to delete grub but keep my data?
[01:10] <shiznebit_> wintv HVR 950q
[01:10] <DJ-Nomad> ahh ok
[01:10] <matrixblue> Anyone know how to create the mount point the same time you mount a filesystem? Like the way Ubuntu does it when you insert a flashdrive
[01:10] <DrachenDasien> How does one get a package from the unsupported repo updated, if not in Jaunty, then at least for Karmic? (Specifically Trac, since the version in Jaunty is not compatible with Python 2.6)
[01:11] <shiznebit_> DJ-Nomad: im not sure if it works
[01:11] <pedro> hoola
[01:11] <shiznebit_> DJ-Nomad: i installed the drivers, which i assumed should work. But tvtime says no device at /dev/video0
[01:11] <DJ-Nomad> shiznebit_,  have you googled it ,might get valuable info on if it should be seeing it or not
[01:11] <jtownsend90> matrixblue: are you talking about an iso? or a shared folder?
[01:11] <DJ-Nomad> ahh ok
[01:11] <shiznebit_> yeah iv googled it
[01:12] <matrixblue> jtownsend90, talking about a regular filesystem like a flash drive
[01:12] <shiznebit_> but too much information scattered everywhere
[01:12] <DJ-Nomad> shiznebit_, I feel you there
[01:12] <pedro> como estas
[01:12] <blip-> fccf: I don't understand why the manpage of fstab doesn't describe this stuff.   What's 'users' for ?   Also the dmask and fmask ?     thanks
[01:12] <jtownsend90> that would be similar to a virtual drive.
[01:12] <DJ-Nomad> I google trying to get my phone access to memory card and cannot get it
[01:12] <DJ-Nomad> been trying for 6 months off and on
[01:12] <zvacet>  blip- : http://paste.ubuntu.com/269482/
[01:13] <shiznebit_> wow that sucks
[01:13] <shiznebit_> ok so it detects
[01:13] <shiznebit_> it
[01:13] <matrixblue> jtownsend90, not sure about that. I just want to have mount create the directory in /media and remove it when it's umounted
[01:13] <zsquareplusc> blip-: those options should be explained in the man page of mount
[01:13] <DrachenDasien> Anyone? Getting Trac updated to a version that actually -works- with Python 2.6...?
[01:13] <shiznebit_> DJ-Nomad: Bus 001 Device 006: ID 2040:7200 Hauppauge
[01:13] <blip-> zsquareplusc: oohh :)
[01:13] <shiznebit_> but what program should i use to record off of it ?
[01:13] <DJ-Nomad> shiznebit_,  sorry if I mislead you ,I am not the one to ask
[01:14] <blip-> thanks zvacet
[01:14] <DJ-Nomad> I am relatively inexperienced
[01:14] <zvacet> blip- np
[01:14] <opell> I get the following error when trying to mount a smb windows share in jaunty "Error mounting location: Failed to mount Windows share"
[01:14] <jtownsend90> matrix: i think you are going to want to check out qemu
[01:14] <fccf> blip-: your questions answered here  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[01:14] <DJ-Nomad> I try to knock out the easy probs if I can to free up the real men to do the real jobs lol
[01:14] <sd32> so does the firefox 3.0 dependency in 3.5 keep the 3.0 bugs in 3.5?
[01:14] <opell> Any Ideas?
[01:14] <sebsebseb> !ffd35 |  sd32
[01:14] <blip-> great.  thanks fccf and zsquareplusc
[01:14] <zsquareplusc> shiznebit_: did you check the output of "dmesg" ? the driver should write a message there when it detects your TV adapter
[01:15] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  sd32
[01:15] <sd32> sebastien_, that doesnt answer my question
[01:15] <fccf> DJ-Nomad: reccommend you watch the channel for a while ... I have learned so much in here .. that now I help quite a bit ... B4 all you got out of me was noobile gibberish
[01:15] <steven__> How do I install Firefox from a tarball or whatever?  It looks easy, but is not cooperating
[01:15] <matrixblue> jtownsend90, I think you're misunderstanding me. I just want the mount command to create the mount point without me having to run mkdir
[01:15] <DJ-Nomad> fccf, yeah thats what I am trying to do
[01:16] <fccf> !apt | steven__
[01:16] <opell> Is there an smb logfile somewhere that can give me a reason as to why it is failing?
[01:16] <DJ-Nomad> is there a terminal command to resolve broken packages?
[01:16] <Addicts> Rookie question: im getting a new hard drive and I want to format it in ext4, is there a tool in default ubuntu to do that?
[01:16] <shiznebit_> zsquareplusc: nope nothing their
[01:16] <matrixblue> jtownsend90, when you use nautilus to mount a local filesystem it does that and deletes the mount point when it's done
[01:16] <zvacet> steven__ : http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/firefox
[01:17] <fccf> steven__:  ubuntu has it's own software repositories ... no more tarballs ... very simple ... sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:17] <sebsebseb> Addicts: ok Ext4 is  great, the fast boot up, the fast shut down, the fast disk checking, thing is in 9.04 it's not great overall, because of the kernel they have and that
[01:17] <zsquareplusc> shiznebit_: maybe you have to load the driver manually using "sudo modprobe <drivername>"
[01:17] <sebsebseb> Addicts: 9.10 will have that kind of stuff sorted out,  because it uses Ext4 by default :)
[01:17] <jtownsend90> matrix: http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=m/mount
[01:17] <Snowyfox> does xchat-gnome support EsperNet?
[01:17] <fccf> DJ-Nomad: couple of things ... sudo apt-get -f install fixes things if it can ... more to learn www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[01:18] <IdleOne> ./j #ubuntu-lu
[01:18] <sebsebseb> Addicts: I never had any issues persoanlly with Ext4 in 9.04, but some people get for example  some kind of lock up issue when deleting big files from such a partition
[01:18] <pedro>  :o
[01:18] <shiznebit_> zsquareplusc: how do i find out the <drivername> ?
[01:18] <DJ-Nomad> fccf,  I found it its a broken package
[01:18] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, my greatest problem with 9.04 is the ATI drivers (or lack thereof)
[01:18] <DJ-Nomad> the x in notification told me to run package manager and filter broken
[01:18] <mlgstudy> Im getting a message to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem, can someone take pitty on a newbe and help me?
[01:19] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: yeah a known issue like  the Intel graphics cards
[01:19] <Michalxo> mlgstudy, so run it :)
[01:19] <linfenix> hello
[01:19] <mlgstudy> where?
[01:19] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: ,but  one wehre people may have to look at a older version of Ubuntu
[01:19] <linfenix> somebody has use finch?
[01:19] <lstarnes> mlgstudy: in a terminal
[01:19] <zvacet> DJ-Nomad : same if you run in terminal    sudo apt-get -f install
[01:19] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: for Intel try  8.10,  for ATI try 8.04
[01:19] <sebsebseb> !ati |  matrixblue
[01:19] <Michalxo> open terminal -> alt+f2 gnome-terminal type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:19] <lstarnes> mlgstudy: but as sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:19] <zsquareplusc> shiznebit_: you said you downloaded some driver? otherwise, searching the internet with your favorite search engine for the terms "xxxx:yyyy" (numbers from lsusb) + "linux" often gives hints
[01:19] <matrixblue> mlgstudy, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a in terminal
[01:19] <DJ-Nomad> how would I go about finding the dependancies for libgstfarsight0.10-0
[01:19] <nineclock> hiz
[01:19] <aprilhare> help!
[01:20] <nineclock> how can i rebuild the bash ?
[01:20] <woodyjlw> I have 200m video card on hp laptop. if I revert back to an older version of ubuntu will it let me install the ati drivers without giving me the finger and making fun of my hair ?? if so how far back on ubuntu versions do I go??
[01:20] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: I wonder what 9.10 will be like for ATI, but  the Intel issues are apparantly fixed
[01:20] <shiznebit_> ill try that
[01:20] <sebsebseb> !ask |  aprilhare
[01:20] <aprilhare> i just updated firefox 3.0 and got this: "ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file!"
[01:20] <mlgstudy> ok, thank you Ill try
[01:20] <lstarnes> nineclock: why do you need to rebuild bash?
[01:20] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, I'm curious too
[01:20] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: all of the dependencies? What are you ultimately trying to accomplish?
[01:20] <aprilhare> sebsebseb: one moment accidentally pressed enter :)
[01:20] <linfenix> hello, someone know how can i displayed a contact group on finch?
[01:20] <DJ-Nomad> maybe mark for reinstallation and it might add the dependancies?
[01:20] <nineclock> because when i run a bash script
[01:20] <nineclock> it say me that no such file or diretorty is
[01:20] <DJ-Nomad> yeah flannel
[01:20] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: What are you trying to do?
[01:20] <lstarnes> nineclock: that does not mean that bash needs to be rebuild
[01:21] <jtownsend90> matrix: if you decide that you would like to go virtual later for a more permanent file system then check out that qemu it only takes seconds to make a virtual stoarge space/device
[01:21] <DJ-Nomad> I got some things all messed up when I unplugged during a update lol
[01:21] <zsquareplusc> nineclock: how do you run it? ./script?
[01:21] <lstarnes> nineclock: which script is it?
[01:21] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, I'm tempted to just downgrade my version of xorg manually
[01:21] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: probably not a very good idea
[01:21] <nineclock> yes ./script
[01:21] <DrachenDasien> nineclock: Probably the script came off a PC at one point. Use dos2unix on the script to fix the line endings.
[01:21] <DJ-Nomad> I need to install the dependancies for that
[01:21] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, I know
[01:21] <Dayofswords> i have a question, whats the difference between kubuntu-desktop and kde when installing them from regular ubuntu to get kde as a desktop?
[01:21] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: You've downloaded the deb? or what?
[01:21] <matrixblue> I'll wait for 9.10
[01:21] <zsquareplusc> nineclock: do you have CR+LF as line endings by accident?
[01:21] <linfenix> hello, someone know how can i displayed a contact group on finch?
[01:21] <lstarnes> Dayofswords: kubuntu-desktop installs additional things outside of kde
[01:21] <DJ-Nomad> flannel I am not sure how it got on here
[01:21] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: thing is 9.10 might not have the magical ATI fixes either hmm
[01:21] <IdleOne> DJ-Nomad: apt-cache depends package
[01:21] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Why do you want to download the depends?  What will that accomplish?
[01:22] <lstarnes> nineclock: what is its filename?
[01:22] <Dayofswords> are they good thing?
[01:22] <lstarnes> nineclock: where is it located?
[01:22] <Michalxo> linfenix, finch = piding?
[01:22] <lstarnes> Dayofswords: most likely
[01:22] <nineclock> is in /home/otello/
[01:22] <Michalxo> linfenix, http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Finch
[01:22] <lstarnes> Michalxo: I think finch is the console version
[01:22] <DJ-Nomad> flannel I dunno I got a error trying to update
[01:22] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Alright.  What error? (pastebin it)
[01:22] <DJ-Nomad> and from what I have read it is this
[01:22] <woodyjlw> I have 200m video card on hp laptop. if I revert back to an older version of ubuntu will it let me install the ati drivers without giving me the finger and making fun of my hair ?? if so how far back on ubuntu versions do I go??
[01:22] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, I'm this close to downloading a Alpha release just to find out. I seriously hope so though
[01:23] <DJ-Nomad> http://pastebay.com/53554
[01:23] <jtownsend90> i need a magical operating system damn it....PC LINUX OS!!! lol nah im just kidding but really things are complicated no matter which one you choose.
[01:23] <DJ-Nomad> theres the one I got when updating
[01:23] <matrixblue> woodyjlw, yeah. This is what me and sebsebseb  are talking about
[01:23] <linfenix> Michalxo, yeah finch its to use pidgin by console or terminal
[01:23] <woodyjlw> oh ok
[01:23] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: the alphas hmm,   unless your  a developer or  a tester who  can fix loasd of  issues them selves, I woudn't recommend the alpha, but maybe when it's beta in your case
[01:23] <nineclock> no idea for bash file no such name ?
[01:23] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Ah.  Ok, you've recently added a PPA or something?  That's a packaging error
[01:24] <matrixblue> woodyjlw, 8.10 was working fine for me. I have the same card
[01:24] <sebsebseb> woodyjlw: interesting way to put it, and yes 8.04
[01:24] <sebsebseb> woodyjlw: 8.04 should be alright
[01:24] <lstarnes> nineclock: what is the script's filename?
[01:24] <DJ-Nomad> i recently added the pidgin ppa
[01:24] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, the only thing keeping me is ext4
[01:24] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: oh why not downgrade to 8.10 then?  it's better than 9.04 in certain ways anyway
[01:24] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: right.  One of their packages is packaged incorrectly.  You should file a bug with them (well, against their PPA)
[01:24] <linfenix> Michalxo, thanks for tha link, i see ovether its so simple
[01:24] <nineclock> you dont know this script lastarnes
[01:24] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: ah ha your like me a fan of the Ext4
[01:24] <zvacet> DJ-Nomad : try to reinstall package in synaptic that should solve dependencies
[01:24] <woodyjlw> cool , ill try 8.04 or 8.10... will updates kill it?
[01:24] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: for boot up and that
[01:25] <nineclock> and is not the point of the name of script
[01:25] <jtownsend90> im giving this vm one more chance then im switching back to *cries* vista.....i need to get school work done that only works with windows....
[01:25] <lstarnes> nineclock: I need to know its actual filename in order to diagnose what is causing the issue
[01:25] <DJ-Nomad> Flannel, I chose in package manager to reinstall,I am hoping that will satisfy the dependacies
[01:25] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, ext4 was the reasons I was a Jaunty Alpha tester
[01:25] <DJ-Nomad> zvacet,  lol thanks
[01:25] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: can your computer do sleep?
[01:25] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: will it work in Ubuntu yeah suspend
[01:25] <nineclock> name is scritp
[01:25] <nineclock> script
[01:25] <DrachenDasien> nineclock: 'dos2unix <scriptname>' should fix it.
[01:25] <fruitloops> "You need to copy a .rul from the documentation directory into the /etc config and edit the interface name" - ipmasq - there is no documentation directory, there is no /etc config and therefore no interface name. Otherwise the docs are perfect
[01:25] <zvacet> DJ-Nomad : np
[01:25] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, Haven't tried in months but no
[01:25] <_Space_Case_> Question? i just installed jaunty on new laptop Toshiba satellite L305. now when i boot the login splash only goes to the 800x600 4x3 resolution after i log in the icons in the task bar both top and bottom on the right get rearanged and some stay at the 800x600 and some move over to the edge of the screen...
[01:25] <panv> i got it
[01:25] <fruitloops> s/the docs/that sentence
[01:25] <lstarnes> nineclock: you need to make sure that the file shows up with ls and that you have the correct case
[01:25] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: there's no dependency issue there.  The problem is that a pidgin related package is trying to write to a file that another package owns, which isn't good. (thus, a packaging error)
[01:25] <zsquareplusc> nineclock: could you copy&paste the error message (use pastebin if its more than one line, see URL in topic of channel)
[01:25] <panv> it was sudo locale-gen --purge
[01:25] <panv> lol
[01:25] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: I had an idea, maybe a bit of a silly one though
[01:26] <aprilhare> This is the firefox 3.0 error I got after update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269486/ it seems to be damaged after the requester is dismissed. websites only open is no style mode, the toolbar shortcuts don't appear normally, the firefox log is missing from the top rhs of the screen, and the home button doesn't work
[01:26] <matrixblue> sebsebseb, I'm listening
[01:26] <DJ-Nomad> when trying to reinstall that I got the same error
[01:26] <aprilhare> logo even
[01:26] <zsquareplusc> aprilhare: did you restart firefox after it was upgraded?
[01:26] <Hyper-X> hi\
[01:26] <Hyper-X> i ive got a problem
[01:26] <DJ-Nomad> http://pastebay.com/53561
[01:26] <jtownsend90> so anyone else in here have windows 7 yet?
[01:26] <Hyper-X> yeah
[01:26] <nineclock> dos2unix not work
[01:26] <dm-madman> win size 5
[01:26] <dm-madman> err
[01:27] <woodyjlw> wish I could get a good driver for 9.04 on the 200m .....will probably be long time before some one has time to get to that i bet...
[01:27] <Hyper-X> speakers not working on UNR
[01:27] <Hyper-X> its pissin me off
[01:27] <jtownsend90> i have to say other than windows 7 being more stable than vista I dont like it, they changed the G.U.I. to much
[01:27] <matrixblue> woodyjlw, me and sebsebseb are wondering if 9.10 will have it
[01:27] <sebsebseb> matrixblue: in pm this is a bit of a silly idea or is it hmm
[01:27] <Flannel> jtownsend90: Try ##windows
[01:28] <DJ-Nomad> can someone tell me how to un ppa pidgin ?
[01:28] <Flannel> jtownsend90: or #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:28] <DJ-Nomad> I only ppa's it cause yahoo wasn't connecting
[01:28] <ntemis> hello
[01:28] <zvacet> !of-topic | jtownsend90
[01:28] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, delete the entry from /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <ntemis> need some help
[01:28] <Dayofswords> if i install kubuntu-desktop, then remove, will it be like i didnt even install it?
[01:28] <lstarnes> Dayofswords: not exactly
[01:28] <lstarnes> Dayofswords: removing that package won't remove all its dependencies
[01:28] <DJ-Nomad> matrixblue,  from terminal is how I do it ?
[01:29] <AussieGuy> how do I make update-manager run all the time in the taskbar?
[01:29] <ntemis> brasero stays on 100% done but cd spins and never says done
[01:29] <edbian> Dayofswords: It will be a lot closer if you "sudo apt-get purge" it instead of remove.
[01:29] <ntemis> burn succesfully
[01:29] <aprilhare> zsquareplusc: yes i restarted firefox
[01:29] <DJ-Nomad> or go where you said and gedit the text file ?
[01:29] <lstarnes> DJ-Nomad: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:29] <woodyjlw> i tried to with the alpha and it dosnt yet
[01:29] <matrixblue> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:29] <Pici> !gksudo
[01:29] <aprilhare> zsquareplusc: hang on
[01:29] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:29] <aprilhare> zsquareplusc: it seems to be working right now. don't ask me why.
[01:30] <zsquareplusc> aprilhare: maybe some bad plugin? did you try "firefox -safe-mode"?
[01:30] <Flannel> matrixblue: gksu for graphical programs
[01:30] <sebsebseb> jtownsend90: :)
[01:30] <DJ-Nomad> matrixblue,  thanks that nano scared me
[01:30] <DJ-Nomad> lol]
[01:30] <sebsebseb> jtownsend90: yeah and there isn't much you can do about that really, since closed source
[01:30] <aprilhare> zsquareplusc: no - no bad plugins
[01:31] <matrixblue> Flannel, he asked for a terminal command
[01:31] <sd32> ahh figured it out..Im just gonna run ff 3.5.3 off a folder on my desktop and not install it..works just fine
[01:31] <Ardorin> I tryed creating a boot flash drive with the alternate cd. It boots but then I get a (syslinux) prompt asking for the kernel. Something's wrong, I think.
[01:31] <Flannel> matrixblue: gksu is a terminal command
[01:31] <matrixblue> Flannel, I stand corrected then
[01:31] <steven__> It says that Firefox is the newest version and it is not. I have 3.0 and NOT 3.5. I want to get 3.5....grrrr
[01:31] <newser> which command helps me to detect the screen resolution in terminal?
[01:31] <Flannel> !ff35 | steven__
[01:32] <edbian> newser: xrandr
[01:32] <zsquareplusc> Ardorin: how did you make that bootable stick? manually or with a tool? in case of manually, did you copy the hidden files too?
[01:32] <Flannel> steven__: Updating your firefox package on 9.04 will not get you 3.5
[01:32] <lstarnes> steven__: there is an entirel separate package for that named firefox-3.5
[01:32] <lstarnes> *entirely
[01:33] <edbian> !ff3.5 | steven__
[01:33] <sd32> steven__, its a cludge
[01:33] <woodyjlw> is there a good place to download ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10 or should I look for it on a torrent site?
[01:33] <Ardorin> zsquareplusc, I did it with the usb-creator tool.
[01:33] <sebsebseb> !releases |  woodyjlw
[01:33] <matrixblue> steven__, I've found the 3.5 in the repos to be buggy. I downloaded the version from mozilla and put it in a directory in /usr/lib and changed all my shortcuts
[01:33] <Techtronic> hello , i have problems with  mysql Version: '5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2' i cant start it , error is /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade: relocation error: /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade: symbol dynstr_append_os_quoted, version libmysqlclient_15 not defined in file libmysqlclient.so.15 with link time reference ................. Please help
[01:33] <newser> what is the standard resolution 1024x*** --> ***=???
[01:33] <woodyjlw> thanks  :)
[01:33] <sebsebseb> woodyjlw: http://releases.ubuntu.com
[01:34] <lstarnes> newser: for standard or for widescreen?
[01:34] <newser> lstarnes both
[01:34] <Ardorin> zsquareplusc, I did the same using the normal cd, it boot well, but it seems my video card is not supported by the GUI install...
[01:34] <Xero> newser, normally 768
[01:34] <lstarnes> newser: 1024x768 standard
[01:34] <DJ-Nomad> http://pastebay.com/53562
[01:34] <newser> ok, so to change my screen resolution I use xrandr --size 1024x768???
[01:35] <newser> and for widescreen?
[01:35] <DJ-Nomad> there is my sources,I do not see pidgin anything in there
[01:35] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, run sudo apt-get update
[01:35] <DJ-Nomad> kk
[01:36] <sd32> steven__, i just downloaded ff 3.5.3 and extracted it to my desktop and ran the ff file and it works just fine and doesnt require any package manipulation
[01:36] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, sorry I'm catching the tail end of this but what problem are you having?
[01:36] <zsquareplusc> Ardorin: that should be fine then. however i also had bad luck with usb-creator tool back some time ago. it was not always creating bootable sticks. you could also try unetbootin
[01:37] <DJ-Nomad> matrixblue,  I upgraded and got a error of a package not haing dependacies
[01:37] <DJ-Nomad> but someone told me it was cause of the pidgin ppa I just aded to sources
[01:37] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, which package?
[01:37] <newser> what can I do to change my screen resolution? the Display preferences menu only shows me 640x480 and 800x600. I do not know why it is not detecting a higher screen resolution
[01:38] <lstarnes> newser: I don't think there is a 1024xX widescreen resolution
[01:38] <lstarnes> !fixres | newser
[01:38] <Keelan> hey, sebsebseb?
[01:38] <sebsebseb> Keelan: hi
[01:39] <DJ-Nomad> opening package man to find out the broken one
[01:39] <test34> ubuntu-one is broken in the alpha Ubuntu ?
[01:39] <Ardorin> zsquareplusc, Yup. You're probably, i've read some about it. Let's see if it works. Thanks in advance.
[01:40] <Keelan> sigh
[01:40] <Keelan> fccf?
[01:40] <Keelan> or sebsebseb?
[01:40] <sd32> and they did fix the fullscreen flash crash bug in 3.5...:)
[01:40] <DJ-Nomad> libgstfarsight0.10-0
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Keelan: yes what do you want?
[01:41] <sd32> *3.5.3
[01:41] <Keelan> sebsebseb: Is ubuntu's wireles in general unreliable, or just certain adapters?
[01:41] <DJ-Nomad> matrixblue, libgstfarsight0.10-0 is the broken package
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Keelan: wireless is not my area
[01:41] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Keelan
[01:41] <Keelan> i know
[01:41] <Keelan> but i was wondering if you know
[01:41] <Keelan> you seem like an all around genius
[01:41] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, did you do the dpkg --reconfigure -a ?
[01:42] <Keelan> :D
[01:42] <test34> sd32, was that bug only with nvidia cards?
[01:42] <fccf> Keelan: I be here ... All around genius? IDK
[01:42] <DJ-Nomad> matrixblue,  nope but I recall it telling me to do that on one of the places that was giving me the error
[01:42] <DJ-Nomad> I will run it now
[01:42] <matrixblue> run that and try again
[01:43] <Keelan> fccf: i was talking to sebsebseb
[01:43] <Keelan> but anyway
[01:43] <steven__> There is no firefox icon when I extract it to my desktop
[01:43] <Keelan> i keep getting random disconnects, with seemingly no pretense
[01:43] <DJ-Nomad> that told me dj@dj-desktop:~$ dpkg --reconfigure -a
[01:43] <DJ-Nomad> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[01:43] <Techtronic> '5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2' i cant start it , error is /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade: relocation error: /usr/bin/mysql_upgrade: symbol dynstr_append_os_quoted, version libmysqlclient_15 not defined in file libmysqlclient.so.15 with link time reference ................. Please help
[01:43] <Keelan> do you know whats wrong?
[01:44] <steven__> I am convinced that Firefox 3.5 cannot work in Ubuntu
[01:44] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, dkpg-reconfigure -a
[01:44] <DJ-Nomad> ff 3.5 will work
[01:44] <steven__> Extracting 3.5 to desktop leaves me NO option to run it
[01:44] <steven__> just a bunch of files I cannot use
[01:44] <e370> How do i install a netbookremix.img file onto a ssd card
[01:44] <DJ-Nomad> command not found
[01:44] <Flannel> steven__: that's because you shoudn't extract deb files, you should use dpkg to install them
[01:44] <matrixblue> steven__, run the file call firefox
[01:45] <steven__> there is no file titled that
[01:45] <steven__> no file at all
[01:45] <Flannel> steven__: What's wrong with the version in the repos?
[01:45] <steven__> People here told me to ignore it. It is buggy
[01:45] <Flannel> It shouldn't be
[01:45] <steven__> How do I use dpkg to install it?
[01:46] <DJ-Nomad> the update fails on gstreamer plugins good
[01:46] <Keelan> er
[01:46] <test34> steven__, all web browsers are buggy
[01:46] <Keelan> guys?
[01:46] <seidos> anyone know how to scroll up in screen in a terminal?
[01:46] <steven__> I'll just stay with Firefox 3.0. It seems far superior
[01:46] <cornet> seidos: shift+pgup
[01:46] <seidos> cornet: thank you
[01:47] <cornet> seidos: oh sorry in screen
[01:47] <seidos> cornet: yeah
[01:47] <cornet> seidos: hit ctrl+a then esc
[01:47] <test34> steven__, 3.5.3 seems superior to me
[01:47] <DJ-Nomad> in package manager it tells me all the dependancies for it,should I go one by one and install them ?
[01:47] <lstarnes> seidos: a regular pgup works for me
[01:47] <Gnea> steven__: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5   what's this nonsense about extracting to desktop?
[01:47] <cornet> seidos: then use arrow keys or pgup - hit esc again to exit
[01:47] <lstarnes> DJ-Nomad: it handles that automatically
[01:47] <zenwryly> Does a xen domU need hal installed?  I'm trying to resolve a boot error concerning the console but the kbd package, but pm-utils requires it and hal in turn requires pm-utils.  Am I safe to remove them all?
[01:47] <steven__> People here were telling me ta do it
[01:47] <matrixblue> DJ-Nomad, you shouldn't have to
[01:47] <steven__> red names like u
[01:47] <lstarnes> zenwryly: I don't believe so
[01:47] <seidos> cornet: thank you, that worked
[01:47] <Pici> steven__: red names are people who say your name...
[01:47] <Pici> steven__: its called a hilight.
[01:47] <cornet> seidos: np. love screen :)
[01:48] <Gnea> steven__: pretty sure you never saw my name in red before now :)
[01:48] <DJ-Nomad> updating fails cause pidgin is trying to overwrite something in gsteamer
[01:48] <Keelan> im sure this is going to sound extremely dumb, but my windows brain kicked in and i used the windows key+r to open run, but instead i got some weird zoomy effect
[01:48] <steven__> There...now it works
[01:48] <Keelan> how do i undo it?
[01:48] <Gnea> Keelan: key+r again?
[01:48] <zenwryly> lstarnes: as in you don't believe it's safe to remove them?  Or as in you don't believe a domU needs hal?  Sorry for the confusing phrasing of my initial question.  :)
[01:49] <lstarnes> zenwryly: as in I don't believe that a domU needs hal
[01:49] <zenwryly> lstarnes: thanks!
[01:49] <lstarnes> zenwryly: I haven't personally used xen, but I don't recall seeing anything about hal being required in the documentation for xen
[01:50] <zenwryly> lstarnes: well my concern is that removing it will break something in ubuntu
[01:50] <Keelan> omg
[01:50] <zenwryly> lstarnes: in the ubuntu guest that is
[01:50] <Keelan> this disconnection thing is starting to get annoying
[01:50] <lstarnes> zenwryly: in that case you may want to keep it
[01:50] <lstarnes> zenwryly: but the individual domUs don't need hal installed within them
[01:51] <zenwryly> lstarnes: right, but what all does ubuntu use it for?
[01:51] <Keelan> anyway, anyone know how to get out of this zoom mode?
[01:51] <musikgoat> zenwryly: what virtual environment are you using?
[01:51] <lstarnes> zenwryly: hardware configuration
[01:51] <zenwryly> musikgoat: xen
[01:51] <zenwryly> lstarnes: so that seems like something a VM guess wouldn't need, no?
[01:51] <zenwryly> musikgoat: is that what you mean?
[01:52] <musikgoat> oh, i was going to suggest you make a snapshot, remove hal and if it fails miserably, recover the snapshot, does Xen have snapshot capabilities
[01:52] <musikgoat> ?
[01:52] <musikgoat> zenwryly: yes
[01:52] <lstarnes> zenwryly: if you can handle it manually, then you likely won't need it
[01:52] <zenwryly> musikgoat: ah, this is on a pretty minimal host
[01:52] <zenwryly> musikgoat: got no access to such thigns
[01:52] <DJ-Nomad> ok I found the pidgin ppa in etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin.ppa.list
[01:52] <musikgoat> zenwryly: oh
[01:53] <Keelan1> omg
[01:53] <DJ-Nomad> is it safe to go in and delete that
[01:53] <Royall> how do I use the Document Viewer from terminal?
[01:53] <Guest38462> I am trying to install the java JDK 6u16,  do I download the jdk-6u16-linux-i586-rpm.bin, or download jdk-6u16-linux-i586.bin?
[01:53] <musikgoat> DJ-Nomad: yes
[01:53] <Keelan1> this is sriously making me want to not use ubuntu
[01:53] <musikgoat> DJ-Nomad: if you don't want to receive the packages from that repository
[01:53] <Gnea> !java | Guest38462
[01:53] <DJ-Nomad> thanks musikgoat ,I think this will resolve the issue
[01:53] <lstarnes> Keelan1: which key combo was it?
[01:54] <musikgoat> DJ-Nomad: i'm not aware of your issue
[01:54] <Keelan1> windowskey+r
[01:54] <DJ-Nomad> thanks to the other m named guy for getting me as far as I got
[01:54] <musikgoat> DJ-Nomad: but that will remove the repository from future updates
[01:54] <lstarnes> Keelan1: are you using compiz?
[01:54] <Keelan1> i don't know
[01:54] <DJ-Nomad> I was just in the wrong place in sources
[01:54] <Keelan1> :C
[01:54] <lstarnes> Keelan1: are you using special visual effects?
[01:54] <DJ-Nomad> musikgoat, but maybe it will stop this error I have
[01:55] <musikgoat> Keelan1: windows+r sucks, why did i try that :P
[01:55] <dabukalam> is there a way to ssh -X from windows
[01:55] <dabukalam> ?
[01:55] <DJ-Nomad> if I go back to the older pidgin
[01:55] <lstarnes> dabukalam: putty supports x forwarding, but you will also need an x server such as xming
[01:55] <zsquareplusc> dabukalam: yes, using Putty + Xming
[01:55] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Yeah, you just need to move away from the PPA packages
[01:56] <dabukalam> AAh... i see, from ubuntu i'm already on x, but windows is confused...
[01:56] <dabukalam> ok
[01:56] <DJ-Nomad> Flannel,  yeah everytime I have ppa'd I have messed up something
[01:56] <zsquareplusc> dabukalam: alternatively use the built in desktop sharing or an extra VNC server. the VNC viewer is easier to use on windows ;-)
[01:56] <DJ-Nomad> last time was with listen music player
[01:56] <namuch> hi all. i'm on ubuntu hardy server, everytime i enable mod-python, apache2 hangs with a segmentation fault when accessing anything.  how can i figure out what is causing this?
[01:56] <dabukalam> but from another linux distibution i'm fine?
[01:56] <musikgoat> Keelan1: it looks better if you windows+e but that doesn't fix allow you to escape from this "feature"
[01:57] <e370> How do i install a netbookremix.img file onto a sd card...
[01:57] <steven__> How do I remove Firefox 3.0 from my system? I cannot seem to do it
[01:57] <lstarnes> steven__: you should keep that package if you intend to upgrade ubuntu
[01:57] <ryanakca> How can I have two network interfaces on two seperate networks configured simultaneously? I have wlan0 connected to the WWW and eth0 connected to a Debian box. If eth0 is up, all traffic goes to it, even if it is destined to the WWW (thus, should be using wlan0)
[01:57] <lstarnes> steven__: in 9.10 and later it will be replaced with firefox 3.5
[01:57] <steven__> When is that coming out? I seem to recall every 6 months or something
[01:58] <lstarnes> steven__: late october
[01:58] <DJ-Nomad> steven__, I have read that you got to keep 3 so 3.5 works
[01:58] <musikgoat> steven__: end of october
[01:58] <lstarnes> steven__: 9.10 = tenth month of the 9th year after 2000
[01:58] <zsquareplusc> namuch: 1) try to enable as much logging as posssible, check teh logfiles (/var/log/apache?) 2) enable core dumps and learn about gdb :/
[01:58] <DJ-Nomad> oct 29th
[01:58] <steven__> Alright. I will keep.  Thank you guys
[01:58] <namuch> so, no quick solution then huh?
[01:58] <Guest38462> #name ghost
[01:58] <zsquareplusc> namuch: well, did you check the logfiles?
[01:59] <steven__> My Firefox icon on top still directs me to 3.0.14 and I only know how to access 3.5 from CL.  How do I replace that icon with 3.5 shortcut?
[01:59] <IdleOne> DJ-Nomad: if you were talking about Firefox-3.0 you can un-install it and it does not effect 3.5
[01:59] <lstarnes> steven__: it's labeled shiretoko in the menus
[01:59] <namuch> yeah, shows normal startup, but then as soon as i access anything, even php, it immediately begins throwing seg faults..
[01:59] <DJ-Nomad> IdleOne,  thanks I thought i read that you had to keep it
[01:59] <Astine> Is the command line for ubuntu Bash? Or does it have all the um *sh's
[01:59] <e370> ello?
[01:59] <steven__> K, thanks
[01:59] <lstarnes> Astine: bash, using ash as /bin/sh
[01:59] <namuch> that's according to the error.log
[01:59] <Flannel> Astine: It's bash by default, but you can switch, yes.
[01:59] <DJ-Nomad> maybe it was that it just would take the other away by installing
[01:59] <Pici> lstarnes: dash you mean
[01:59] <Astine> Ok thanks
[02:00] <IdleOne> steven__: right click on your FF icon and click properties, then change the icon but if you remove 3.0 you wont have the FF icon to use with 3.5
[02:00] <musikgoat> dash is default in ubuntu
[02:00] <lstarnes> Astine: the majority of linux distributions use bash as the main shell but ash or a variant such as dash is used for scripts
[02:00] <steven__> I only removed the icon for 3.0.  Will not touch it otherwise
[02:01] <Astine> But I can get along with just learning bash, correct?
[02:01] <Pici> musikgoat: /bin/sh links to dash, but the login shell is bash
[02:01] <dabukalam> how can i install 32 bit ff on ubuntu and use both the 32 bit and 64 bit simulaneously? is it just a case of force-architecture, and if so, how will i be able to differentiate between them?
[02:01] <Guest38462> If I download the the .bin file, what do I do with it?  Do I need to do a make install?
[02:01] <lstarnes> Guest38462: execute
[02:01] <lstarnes> it
[02:01] <musikgoat> Pici: interesting... and gnome-terminal uses bash?
[02:01] <lstarnes> Astine: bash supports far more than just the main features of bourn-like shells
[02:01] <Pici> musikgoat: yes.
[02:02] <ThinkRob> musikgoat, It uses whatever your shell is, yes.
[02:02] <musikgoat> thanks for the clarification
[02:02] <lstarnes> musikgoat: most interactive terminals use bash
[02:02] <sd32> it takes less clicks to open ff from a folder on the desktop then when its installed
[02:02] <Guest38462> doesn't it have to install somewhere?
[02:02] <ThinkRob> How would one go about forcing xorg.conf to be created?  (Ubuntu 9.04, x86)
[02:02] <IdleOne> steven__: you can also set FF-3.5 as default in System>Prefs>Preferred Applications
[02:02] <lstarnes> Guest38462: yes
[02:02] <[R]> does anyone know how to brdige my wlan0 onto my eth0? i dont want to turn my laptop into an AP... i want the opposite
[02:02] <lstarnes> Guest38462: executing it will take care of that
[02:03] <Guest38462> last time I tried it just opened with the archive manager
[02:03] <lstarnes> Guest38462: however, you should first try to find a version specifically for ubuntu
[02:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> whats the best way to go from ubuntu 32 bit to 64 bit
[02:03] <lstarnes> U-b-u-n-t-u: reinstall the 64-bit version
[02:03] <IdleOne> U-b-u-n-t-u: fresh insta;;
[02:03] <IdleOne> ll*
[02:03] <steven__> Ah! That is more along the lines of what I was looking for.  Thank you!
[02:03] <jordanwb> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to send sound output to my Logitech clearchat comfort headset. Under Sound Preferences I set everything to the headset, but sound still comes out of my laptop's speakers
[02:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I see no way to upgrade then
[02:03] <SuperMiguel> i went to the nvidia website and downloaded the latetst driver and im getting an error saying no precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel
[02:04] <Guest38462> I need to get the java jdk, the latest one, is there a way to get that with synaptic or something?
[02:04] <IdleOne> !java
[02:04] <lstarnes> Guest38462: why can't you use the versions available for ubuntu?
[02:04] <SuperMiguel> !nvidia
[02:04] <IdleOne> Guest38462: sun-java6-jdk
[02:05] <Guest38462> my professor wants us to download the latest jdk6u16
[02:05] <dabukalam> how can i install 32 bit ff on ubuntu and use both the 32 bit and 64 bit simulaneously? is it just a case of force-architecture, and if so, how will i be able to differentiate between them?
[02:05] <bizkit> HELP!
[02:05] <bizkit> ok so i put in a grahpics card to test it out on my linux box
[02:05] <lstarnes> dabukalam: you will need to download mozilla's tarball and install it somewhere
[02:05] <IdleOne> Guest38462: that would be it
[02:05] <bizkit> and now that i put my old card back in its acting all sorts of fucked up
[02:05] <steven__> I cannot seem to modify it there
[02:06] <steven__> weird
[02:06] <Guest38462> so I run sudo apt-get sun-java-jdk?
[02:06] <IdleOne> Guest38462: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[02:06] <lstarnes> Guest38462: that should work
[02:06] <buntu54> hi
[02:07] <steven__> Evolution vs. Thunderbird.  I get some opinions?
[02:07] <EmpoweredLinuxX> thunderbird
[02:07] <Guest38462> and apt-get will install jdk for me?
[02:07] <fccf> !ohmy | bizkit
[02:07] <IdleOne> steven__: in the properties for FF change the command to firefox-3.5 %u
[02:07] <edbian> Where can I get more backgrounds for open office slide shows?
[02:07] <EmpoweredLinuxX> great sync with gcal
[02:07] <steven__> Ah! Thank you! I am kinda a big noob
[02:07] <fccf> edbian: images.google.com
[02:07] <mustafa> hello
[02:08] <mustafa> i have problem with my ip address
[02:08] <e370> < also noobish
[02:08] <mustafa> clear
[02:08] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to get compiz in 9.04 working the same way as earleir versions when you drag a widnwo tot he edge of the screen? atm when it moves to the next desktop the window will still be on the edge of the screen i dragged it to instead of the opposite side...
[02:08] <mustafa> exit
[02:08] <mustafa> quit
[02:09] <nineclock> :/
[02:09] <jordanwb> mustafa: I think you accidentally a couple of words there
[02:09] <dbuell> Flynsarmy: check out your settings for "viewport switcher"
[02:09]  * bizkit was irritated, and now i remember why i NEVER come here for support
[02:09] <IdleOne> bizkit: because you can't speak without cursing?
[02:10] <dbuell> Flynsarmy: my bad... wrong one... hold on
[02:10] <Jorsher> meh
[02:10] <lstarnes> bizkit: you may need to change the driver and mdoe settings used by X
[02:10] <Flynsarmy> dbuell, desktop wall maybe
[02:10] <blahdeblah> Hi.  I'm getting segfaults from Epiphany after recent security updates (on 9.04 64-bit) - how can i get apport to submit the coredump?  It doesn't seem to be doing it automatically like it used to.
[02:10] <sd32> !patience
[02:11] <sd32> !manners
[02:11] <IdleOne> blahdeblah: launchpad.net and submit a bug report
[02:11] <blahdeblah> IdleOne: the last time i did that, the maintainers complained that i didn't submit it through apport
[02:12] <bizkit> lstarnes: yea, how do i go about doing that
[02:12] <IdleOne> blahdeblah: submit a bug against apport also :)
[02:12] <lstarnes> bizkit: I honestly do not know
[02:12]  * Debolaz feels he's reinstalling ubuntu so often that it might be worth to make an iso with all the settings predefined.
[02:12] <blahdeblah> :-)
[02:12] <bizkit> lstarnes: lol :D
[02:12] <lstarnes> bizkit: it involves editing xorg.conf
[02:12] <steven__> Did not work.  Not sure why
[02:12] <blahdeblah> IdleOne: Fair enough
[02:12] <IdleOne> !remaster > Debolaz
[02:12] <dbuell> Flynsarmy: are you using the cube or desktop wall?
[02:13] <blip-> I just installed google earth package from the 9.04 repos... or I thought I did... where is the app ?   the bin doesn't seem to be in my path,  is an extra step requires here ?
[02:13] <dbuell> Flynsarmy: are you using the cube or desktop wall?
[02:13] <cambo> whois cambo
[02:13] <cambo> @whois cambo
[02:13] <Debolaz> Ty.
[02:13] <Flynsarmy_> dbuell, desktop wall
[02:13] <IdleOne> cambo: /whois nick
[02:13] <cambo> heh thanks
[02:13] <cambo> mental block
[02:13] <dbuell> Flynsarmy: did you have edge flipping on? (specifically "Edge Flip Move")
[02:13] <blip-> codeblock
[02:14] <IdleOne> cambo: /mental block disable :P
[02:14] <amdFANBOY> hey, did anyone's adobe flash break today?  maybe it was the updates?  i can't figure out how to fix it.
[02:14] <Flynsarmy_> dbuell, also in 9.04 if you drag to the edge of the screen the window will sometimes fly all the way to the rightmost virtual desktop instead of just moving 1 desktop. its incredibly annoying
[02:14] <IdleOne> cambo: you may want to remove --purge also
[02:15] <dbuell> Flynsarmy: yeah sorry.. I'm not familiar with the wall plugin.. I only use the Rotate Cube
[02:15] <blip-> jucky jauntea
[02:16] <IdleOne> amdFANBOY: FF3.5?
[02:16] <amdFANBOY> idleone: no ff3.0  on 9.04
[02:16] <blip-> I fired the fox
[02:16] <sd32> amdFANBOY, ff3.5.3
[02:16] <IdleOne> don;t know
[02:16] <blip-> ff5.3
[02:16] <amdFANBOY> sd32, youre saying upgrade?
[02:17] <amdFANBOY> blip, youre also saying upgrade?
[02:17] <Flannel> blip-: Is there something we can help you with today?
[02:17] <sd32> amdFANBOY, is it the fullscreen flash crash?
[02:17] <IdleOne> amdFANBOY: if you want to the package is firefox-3.5
[02:17] <dbuell> Flynsarmy: check out #compiz
[02:17] <amdFANBOY> yeah like youtube shows a black box where hte video should be
[02:17] <blip-> Flannel: already got help with several problems today, thanks for the offer
[02:17] <puff> Hi, I'm having trouble getting amarok to see my ipod... well, it seems to SEE it fine, amarok comes up when I plug it in, it starts playing the music from that device, etc. But the transfer button is faded and when I click connect it says "No mounted ipod found"
[02:17] <Guest38462> is there a way to tell what software version is installed?
[02:17] <IdleOne> apt-cache policy package
[02:18] <amdFANBOY> sd32, for example youtube shows a black box where the video should be
[02:19] <sd32> amdFANBOY, and it never starts?
[02:19] <Flannel> blip-: Sounds good.  Would you be able to stop being disruptive then?  Thanks.
[02:19] <blip-> for anyone interested, here's the google earth installation thing http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Google_Earth
[02:19] <blip-> Flannel: sure
[02:19] <jordanwb> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to send sound output to my Logitech clearchat comfort headset. Under Sound Preferences I set everything to the headset, but sound still comes out of my laptop's speakers
[02:20] <physic> hi guysss
[02:20] <amdFANBOY> sd32, yeah, stays black.  if i right click it, it says  "movie not loaded, about flash 10"  point is its calling flash but something isnt working.  not just youtube, gmail too, etc
[02:20] <biovore> !smil3y
[02:20] <dabukalam> lstarnes: i just want to be able to use flash 10. do I really have to install FF x86 seperately?
[02:20] <amdFANBOY> i tried completely removing flash installer and reinstalling a few times, maybe i should restart?  i doubt it though
[02:21] <jtrunner> is there an alternative to sshd, since i can't get it to work?
[02:21] <dabukalam> !bots
[02:21] <lstarnes> dabukalam: I use flash 10 in the 64 bit firefox through ndiswrapper
[02:21] <lstarnes> dabukalam: it also works in firefox 3.5 and later versions
[02:21] <fccf> jtrunner: do you have openssh installed?
[02:21] <amdFANBOY> dabukalam, did your flash break today too?
[02:21] <sd32> amdFANBOY, have you tried different videos to make sure its not the video
[02:21] <sd32> amdFANBOY, ok i understand
[02:22] <Darxus> Why would /proc/net/dev say I'm recieving 0.5 kilobytes per second, consistantly, when I've ifconfigged eth0 down, and both route -n and netstat -tuapn list nothing?
[02:22] <dabukalam> lstarnes: I just wanna play texas hold em. Flash has always worked on youtube etc. (although sometimes a bit buggy) but I can't seem to use this flash application
[02:22] <lstarnes> Darxus: what about lo0?
[02:22] <Darxus> Sorry, I think that's with eth0 up, but without any routes.
[02:22] <Darxus> lstarnes: I'm specifically seeing the traffic on eth0.
[02:22] <dabukalam> lstarnes: i'm using FF 3.0. Is it worth upgrading?
[02:22] <lstarnes> Darxus: what type of traffic?
[02:23] <Astine> Is there a way to open Emacs within a terminal windows?
[02:23] <lstarnes> dabukalam: 3.5 works very well
[02:23] <dabukalam> lstarnes: i have shiretoko, flash doens't work there either....
[02:23] <amdFANBOY> dabukalam, did your flash break today too?  mine did.
[02:23] <dabukalam> amdFANBOY: no it didn't. it's always been like this
[02:23] <Chriswaterguy> hi - looking for install help. I'm installing Crunchbang 8.10 which is Ubuntu-based (a temporary install - I know it and have the disk handy).
[02:23] <Chriswaterguy> When I get to "Prepare Partitions" the list is empty and the buttons underneath are greyed out. yet if I run gparted, it detects my partitions no problem. Ideas?
[02:24] <ThinkRob> How would one go about forcing xorg.conf to be created?  (Ubuntu 9.04, x86)  It's nonexistent now...
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !crunchbang |  Chriswaterguy
[02:24] <dabukalam> Chriswaterguy: fsck the HDD?
[02:24] <sd32> amdFANBOY, thinks its a bug http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com/msg06007.html
[02:24] <fccf> ThinkRob: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:24] <ThinkRob> ubottu, Think "Ubuntu w/ a different WM/DE"
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Chriswaterguy: really this channal is for Ubuntu support not other distros
[02:24] <ThinkRob> fccf, Thank you.
[02:25] <ThinkRob> sebsebseb, Crunchbang is just Ubuntu with a different WM.  Same repos and everything.
[02:26] <Pici> ThinkRob: It surely doesn't use the same installer
[02:26] <ThinkRob> Pici, Yep.
[02:27] <ThinkRob> Pici, Not the same ISO (obviously), but the installer's the Ubuntu one.
[02:27] <Achilles`> Hey are there any quick fixes to the "GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server;" problem... its causing me a headache... because after I get this error, the terminal crashes and I am no longer able to start another terminal
[02:29] <ThinkRob> Pici, In fact, you can install Crunchbang using an Ubuntu MinimalCD and a shell script.
[02:29] <Pici> ThinkRob: We still don't support it here.
[02:29] <Chriswaterguy> sebsebseb: I know - Crunchbang is really Ubuntu with a different desktop.
[02:29] <ThinkRob> Pici, :D  Fair point.
[02:29] <ThinkRob> Pici, No objections here.  :P
[02:29] <MLx_O> regexp help needed: I have a subtitle file with many space omissions, like "...word1,word2.New sentence..." What's the best way to fix this with find&replace dialog (using subtitleeditor)? I'm thinking of specifying characters which need to follow the period/comma... without actually including them in the expression, is that possible? Alternatively, what's this functionality called, so I can google it? TIA
[02:29] <HellMind> is there any way to ban the a ip ?
[02:30] <HellMind> I know it can be done with iptables, but isnt there a file where to put the ip to be blocked at startup?
[02:30] <Achilles`> ahh never mind.
[02:30] <lstarnes> HellMind: /etc/hosts.deny?
[02:31] <HellMind> lstarnes that will stop the nat too ?
[02:31] <lstarnes> HellMind: what do you mean by stopping the nat?
[02:31] <Chriswaterguy> The partition manager in Ubuntu is gparted, right?
[02:31] <lstarnes> Chriswaterguy: yes
[02:31] <wen> yes
[02:32] <Chriswaterguy> lstarnes: thanks.
[02:32] <Chriswaterguy> any ideas then why gparted would work, but "Prepare Partitions" would fail to show anything during installation?
[02:33] <ThinkRob> Is there a version of the grsecurity patchset against Ubuntu's 2.6.26-15 sources?
[02:34] <wen> I'm trying to repair grub on Mint. i've opened /boot/grub/menu.lst, where exactly do i put "gfxmenu=/etc/grub/message.mint
[02:34] <wen> color cyan/blue white/blue"?
[02:34] <Flannel> !mintsupport | wen
[02:35] <wen> Thank you
[02:36] <jordanwb> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to send sound output to my Logitech clearchat comfort headset. Under Sound Preferences I set everything to the headset, but sound still comes out of my laptop's speakers
[02:36] <jtrunner> if i can sshd local host on a server, then get connection timed out from a desktop to server, what could be th epossible problem/solutions?
[02:36] <Flannel> jtrunner: Are they on the same subnet?
[02:36] <jtrunner> flannel, yes
[02:36] <HellMind> lstarnes I mean if iptables will forward packet of that ip
[02:38] <mike3_> oin #blocktronics
[02:38] <ascheel> Anybody know of a CLI based program for instant messaging?
[02:38] <nyRednek> i have a jaunty live cd, and the cd repository is screwed...is there a way to network install?
[02:39] <steven__> CHIMEI CMV 946D  <--- When will Ubuntu allow me to do higher visual effects on this monitor?
[02:39] <amdFANBOY> sd32, hey i read that thread, not sure what they're talking about :-).  it seems like he was using debian and they never exactly solved it?
[02:40] <Joelito> nyRednek: commented the CD and use update
[02:40] <amdFANBOY> sd32, today i did an upgrade of all these qt4 packages
[02:40] <amdFANBOY> sd32, maybe that caused it?
[02:40] <HellMind> how /etc/hosts.deny works?
[02:41] <steven__> What is the name of a good wysiwyg for Ubuntu?
[02:41] <eyeron> ahoy
[02:41] <jordanwb> steven__:what kind of wysiwyg do you want?
[02:41] <Joelito> steven__: for doing what?
[02:42] <steven__> Like Dreamweaver
[02:42] <dabukalam> lstarnes: i got the tarball, and FF 3.5 opens, but it doesn't get internet for some reason
[02:42] <steven__> or FrontPage
[02:42] <Joelito> steven__: I think there's the one from mozilla
[02:42] <dabukalam> steven__: did you say "FrontPage"?
[02:42] <amdFANBOY> hey, my flash mysteriously broke today, gmail won't load the fancy flash version, youtube gives me a black screen where the video should be, any ideas?
[02:42] <steven__> I think I once had Scream or some other program. I forget the name
[02:43]  * dabukalam is experiencing severe nostalgia
[02:43] <dabukalam> Joelito: Kompozer?
[02:43] <steven__> Speaking of nostalgia...can I find a way to create  blue screen of death in Ubuntu?
[02:43] <Joelito> dabukalam: yeah
[02:43] <dabukalam> steven__: yeah. install windows on a virtual machine ;P
[02:43] <jtrunner> paint your screen blue
[02:44] <steven__> rofl
[02:44] <steven__> *bounces around in anticipation*
[02:44] <xmnt> whois xmnt
[02:45] <Joelito> for HTML I like geany and bluefish, 'cause I like to type my self the code xD
[02:45] <xmnt> Joelito, geany would be great if it had a better dir browser
[02:45] <Joelito> xmnt: I think there's plugins
[02:46] <steven__> I just got ArcInfo to work in Ubuntu! Wooooo!
[02:47] <jtrunner> anyone run a ubuntu server?
[02:47] <nono> lamp?
[02:48] <xmnt> jtrunner, i run ubuntu locally .. debian in production
[02:48] <Techie> jtrunner- i used to
[02:48] <DK_CE> yes
[02:48] <Joelito> jtrunner: need help?
[02:48] <Techie> jtrunner- but i dont currently have a spare machine to run it on
[02:48] <dabukalam> i just installed FF3.5 and i don't have access to the internet
[02:48] <jtrunner> xmnt, techie, i am trying to set one up. testing for now then hopefully in production
[02:49] <jtrunner> i got 8.04 to run on an older HP pro curve G2
[02:49] <jordanwb> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to send sound output to my Logitech clearchat comfort headset. Under Sound Preferences I set everything to the headset, but sound still comes out of my laptop's speakers
[02:49] <xmnt> jtrunner, if your setting up a new server i would recommend nginx for production
[02:50] <Joelito> my ubuntu 9.04 behave like server
[02:50] <Joelito> lighttpd, php5, sql, ruby, python, perl
[02:50] <nono> lol
[02:50] <Joelito> all good
[02:50] <Joelito> :p
[02:50] <nono> ;)
[02:51] <nono> http://leonlemouton.no-ip.org/
[02:51] <Jorsher> man i just had the baddest assest idea
[02:51] <xmnt> did it include a man with a gold unicorn?
[02:52] <Flannel> ascheel: centerim
[02:52] <Linux-idiot> anyone know of any half decent linux mmorpgs?
[02:52] <cambo> hahaha man with a golden unicorn
[02:52] <Linux-idiot> or any FPS multiplayer type games?
[02:52] <space_ace> why is it when i try to connect to myspace and try to send web mail i get a server time out? i use ubuntu and have CDMA wireless connection, i dual boot and in windows it loads?
[02:53] <cambo> @spaceace, dns issue?
[02:53] <dabukalam> Linux-idiot: there are a lot of good online ones (aren't they all :P) not necessarily linux but browser based
[02:53] <iceroot> Linux-idiot: nativ or world of war craft with wine? all fps from id software and unreal tournamen are running nativ on linux
[02:53] <kayve> hello is
[02:53] <space_ace> hold on..
[02:54] <dabukalam> i just installed FF3.5 and i don't have access to the internet - i can get through in FF 3.0 though. Any ideas why?
[02:54] <kayve> is this people?
[02:54] <cornet> space_ace: tried using opendns ? thou CDMA just screams tin cans and bits of string
[02:54] <nono> space_ace: aptitude install libwww-myspace-perl
[02:54] <space_ace> Connection Interrupted ,,,, The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.... The network link was interrupted while negotiating a connection. Please try again.
[02:54] <kayve> I can't get timespec
[02:54] <kayve> push + pop data:
[02:54] <kayve> fstart is 1252718305.49602199    fend is 1252718305.49408221
[02:54] <kayve> operation took -0.00193977 seconds
[02:55] <dabukalam> !flood | kayve
[02:55] <Jkessler> I'm installing WoW atm.  Haven't run ubuntu at home for a long time.
[02:55] <Jkessler> on Jaunty that is
[02:55] <kayve> kayve@kayve-laptop:~/Documents/murphy/CSc720/HW1$ gcc -o seq_stack seq_stack.c
[02:55] <kayve> seq_stack.c:5:26: error: sys/timespec.h: No such file or directory
[02:55] <dabukalam> !flood > kayve
[02:55] <kayve> kayve@kayve-laptop:~/Documents/murphy/CSc720/HW1$ uname -a
[02:55] <kayve> Linux kayve-laptop 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 18:40:08 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:55] <kayve> kayve@kayve-laptop:~/Documents/murphy/CSc720/HW1$
[02:55] <iceroot> kayve: please ask a real question without flood
[02:55] <cornet> kayve: you got build-essential installed ?
[02:56] <kayve> this is a real question
[02:56] <kayve> can't find timespec.h
[02:56] <iceroot> kayve: this is flood
[02:56] <kayve> information necessary for questin
[02:56] <kayve> I am trying to use 25     //clock_gettime((clockid_t)CLOCK_REALTIME,&c_start);
[02:56] <Flannel> kayve: Use pastebin
[02:57] <kayve> what is pastebin?
[02:57] <Pici> kayve: This isn't a programming channel
[02:57] <dabukalam> !flood > kayve
[02:57] <iceroot> !paste | kayve
[02:57] <Joelito> kayve: I think you need the package gnulib
[02:57] <Joelito> kayve: See http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=timespec.h
[02:57] <kayve> apt-get install gnulib?
[02:58] <kayve> gnulib didn't work
[02:59] <kayve> do I need to reboot?
[02:59] <nono> no
[02:59] <cornet> nope souldn't need t o kayve
[02:59] <Joelito> no, try the othe package
[02:59] <kayve> didn't work
[02:59] <kayve> Setting up gnulib (20090101-1) ...
[02:59] <cornet> kayve: hang on let me check the pkg contents for you
[02:59] <Joelito> kayve: try the other package, from the link I give you
[03:00] <cornet> kayve: gnulib: /usr/share/gnulib/lib/timespec.h
[03:00] <kayve> what link?
[03:00] <cornet> kayve: def included in gnulib
[03:00] <cornet> kayve: oh hang on
[03:00] <cornet> kayve: you building a package you've downloaded ?
[03:00] <space_ace> ibwww-myspace-perl will resolve the myspace issue ?
[03:01] <nono> WWW::Myspace.pm provides methods to access your myspace.com account
[03:01] <nono> and functions automatically. It provides a simple interface for
[03:01] <nono> scripts to log in, access lists of friends, scan user's profiles,
[03:01] <nono> retrieve profile data, send messages, and post comments.
[03:01] <FloodBot1> nono: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <nono> sorry
[03:01] <kayve> E: Couldn't find package librot5.18
[03:01] <kayve> oops
[03:01] <detrix> Hello folks.  I have just written a small python program to change ones desktop background.  I want this program to get executed either when the user logs in or out.  what file do I edit to do this?
[03:01] <amdFANBOY> so should i upgrade to ff3.5?  i understand that the one in the repositories is a beta version?  or will 9.04 migrate to it soon?
[03:01] <cornet> kayve: apt-cache search librot
[03:02] <cambo> FF 3.5 is a pain in the ass to make work with flash
[03:02] <cornet> bah that doesn't return anything
[03:02] <kayve> libroot?  It's installing now
[03:02] <cornet> kayve: :)
[03:02] <cambo> flash loops, etc
[03:02] <cornet> cambo: works for ,e
[03:02] <cornet> me
[03:02] <kayve> 69% [24 libroot5.18 13613074/17.6MB 77%]
[03:02] <cambo> true, I had no end of hassle with it
[03:02] <cambo> no audio and flash would loop
[03:02] <Joelito> cambo: stick with 3.0.13 until 3.5 is in official repo as non-beta
[03:03] <cambo> so I installed opera and no issue.
[03:03] <Joelito> 3.0.14..
[03:03] <Joelito> :p
[03:03] <cambo> yeah FF 3.0 was fine
[03:03] <cambo> :)
[03:03] <DJ-Nomad> hi all anyone in here that was a lil bit ago helping with my pidgin ppa problem ?
[03:03] <Joelito> DJ-Nomad: I use pidgin ppa :)
[03:04] <DJ-Nomad> now when I try to install normal pidgin ,it says cannot install has conflict use synaptic to resolve
[03:04] <DJ-Nomad> so I cant install pidgin lol
[03:04] <Joelito> DJ-Nomad: Did you update before the install
[03:04] <DJ-Nomad> ubuntu will not give me the bird lol
[03:05] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:05] <DJ-Nomad> both in same line same time ?
[03:05] <Joelito> yes
[03:05] <DJ-Nomad> pidgin:
[03:05] <DJ-Nomad>   Depends: pidgin-data (<1:2.5.5-z) but 1:2.6.1-1ubuntu0~pidgin1.9.04 is to be installed
[03:05] <DJ-Nomad>  Depends: libpurple0 but it is not going to be installed
[03:05] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Both like that with the && will work just fine
[03:05] <DJ-Nomad> sorry for minor flood
[03:05] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: not upgrade, update
[03:06] <Joelito> ah
[03:06] <Joelito> remove the old pidgin :p
[03:06] <kayve> still not compiling  {:( seq_stack.c:5:26: error: sys/timespec.h: No such file or directory
[03:06] <DJ-Nomad> the old is gone
[03:06] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: remove pidgin-data too
[03:07] <Joelito> and libpurple
[03:07] <DJ-Nomad> good lord
[03:07] <DJ-Nomad> hehe
[03:07] <Flannel> libpurple0
[03:07] <BrianR___> I've found an interesting problem. When logged in as user "A" (the first user account created on this notebook), suspend works fine. When logged in as user "B", suspend just actives the screensaver.
[03:07] <woodyjlw> running ubuntu 9.04 on my hp laptop and just plugged in my magic jack and got dial tone but cant call out or in and auto run is an exe type. is there a trick to get it to work??
[03:08] <Bluey> yes
[03:08] <Bluey> woody - magic jack only works on windows and mac
[03:08] <kayve> seq_stack.c:5:26: error: sys/timespec.h: No such file or directory
[03:08] <kayve> Oh I said that
[03:08] <DJ-Nomad> k where do i get the pidgin config ?
[03:08] <woodyjlw> ahhhhh!  that bites!
[03:08] <Bluey> yes...
[03:08] <protowox> hi guy;s
[03:08] <protowox> can some one help me
[03:08] <protowox> i want to install webcam
[03:08] <Bluey> proto - what up?
[03:09] <protowox> what should i do
[03:09] <woodyjlw> what about vbox?
[03:09] <protowox> proto is in proble
[03:09] <Bluey> proto - out of my realm
[03:09] <protowox> hi bluey
[03:09] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: did you remove those three packages?  Once you have, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get autoclean, then reinstall pidgin
[03:09] <protowox> help me to install webcam
[03:10] <BrianR___> Fri Sep 11 22:09:11 EDT 2009: Inhibit found, will not perform suspend
[03:10] <kayve> this isnt the programming channel?
[03:10] <DJ-Nomad> what 3 packages?
[03:10] <Pici> kayve: What are you trying to compile?
[03:10] <kayve> t  5 #include <sys/timespec.h>
[03:11] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: libpurple0, pidgin-data and pidgin
[03:11] <kayve>     //clock_gettime((clockid_t)CLOCK_REALTIME,&c_start);
[03:11] <DJ-Nomad> kk
[03:11] <kayve> it's commented out because it doesn't work
[03:11] <DJ-Nomad> looking for pidgin data
[03:11] <Pici> kayve: If this is your own script you need to ask in the channel for that language.
[03:11] <protowox> bluey tell me
[03:11] <protowox> what should i do
[03:11] <woodyjlw> has anyone tried to use magic jack with WINE ?
[03:11] <DJ-Nomad> do I remove all from package manager ?
[03:11] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: sudo apt-get remove --purge libpurple0 pidgin-data pidgin
[03:11] <kayve> c
[03:11] <kayve> it's c language
[03:11] <DJ-Nomad> k thx
[03:11] <protowox> kayve
[03:11] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Yeah, completely remove.  And you can use synaptic
[03:11] <Pici> kayve: ##c
[03:12] <protowox> i want to install webcam in my ubuntu
[03:12] <protowox> i dont have driver
[03:12] <DJ-Nomad> what you told me will do it in terminal ?
[03:12] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: If you use synaptic, you don't need to, no.
[03:12] <e370> fb made a big boo boo
[03:12] <e370> flamingoed up lol
[03:12] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Once you've done that, close synaptic, then do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:13] <kayve> ##c
[03:13] <DJ-Nomad> Flannel,  I done what you told me in terminal,is that removing them all ?
[03:13] <kayve> how do I add the channel?
[03:13] <Flannel> e370: Please keep it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:13] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Which one?
[03:13] <Pici> kayve: /join ##C
[03:13] <DJ-Nomad> sudo apt-get remove --purge libpurple0 pidgin-data pidgin
[03:13] <DJ-Nomad> i did that
[03:14] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Alright, did you have synaptic closed?  (Yes, that removes those three packages)  Did you get any errors?
[03:14] <DJ-Nomad> no errors have not used synaptic
[03:15] <DJ-Nomad> only terminal
[03:15] <DJ-Nomad> about to do the
[03:15] <DJ-Nomad> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:15] <ubunter> is there an option to set the behaviour on and off of when you click the mouse on a menu and hold, drag to the menu option and release?
[03:15] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Yep
[03:15] <DJ-Nomad> k no errors
[03:16] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: alright, now sudo apt-get install pidgin
[03:16] <DJ-Nomad> flannel you are my favorite shirt
[03:17] <DJ-Nomad> no errors
[03:17] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: Sounds good.  Youve got pidgin back
[03:17] <kayve> ##c won't let me speak
[03:17] <DJ-Nomad> I got the bird back
[03:18] <DJ-Nomad> Flannel,  thank you so much ,you really made my night a lot better than if you had not crossed my path
[03:18] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: no problem.  That's what we do here.
[03:18] <helper> kayve maybe the channels it's +R and your nick is not Register/Identify
[03:18] <DJ-Nomad> I am not a hit and run guy
[03:19] <DJ-Nomad> I will definately be here and try to return more than what I get and I am pretty far behind right now lol
[03:19] <Pici> !register | kayve
[03:19] <DJ-Nomad> does anyone run ultimate ubuntu ?
[03:20] <DJ-Nomad> I am on a frsh install of that and I like it pretty good ,I stil need to weed out the things I do not or will not use
[03:21] <Pici> !ultimate
[03:22] <Flannel> DJ-Nomad: You should instead install Ubuntu, and then add to it the things you will use.
[03:22] <DJ-Nomad> flannel you probably would be better
[03:23] <DJ-Nomad> Flannel, I wanted to go this route so I could use them first then see if I wanted them
[03:23] <kayve> I can't understand this nickserv thing in ##c
[03:23] <helper> kayve did you register?
[03:23] <detrix> How do I get Ubuntu to run a script on bootup or logout?
[03:24] <detrix> actually how do I get ubuntu to run a script on login or logout?
[03:24] <kayve> I'm being a bad multitasker freechess.org I don't know what happened
[03:25] <helper> detrix did u check the /etc/profile , or ~/.profile (for specific user)?
[03:26] <rigodeni> guys, i would like to know how i could make (or run an already made) script to backup my bookmarks in firefox, if possible to auto run it everytime FF is shutdown (or rebooted).
[03:26] <detrix> helper: I thought those were just for terminal logins
[03:27] <helper> detrix maybe i understand wrong! could you be more specific !
[03:27] <helper> rigodeni why you want that!
[03:28] <bruenig> hmm
[03:28] <detrix> helper: I wrote a python script to change the gnome desktop background picture.  So when a user logs in or perhaps logs out, I need to run the script.  but I do not want to run the script for every one.
[03:29] <rigodeni> helper: umm, i need by bookmarks to be backed up
[03:30] <steven__> I am using an Intel Core 2 Duo setup with 3 GB of RAM.  Should I use 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?  Opinions?
[03:30] <rigodeni> helper: my*
[03:31] <sadrolla> hi , i can't print my desktop save in image
[03:33] <sadrolla> plz , i can not print my desktop
[03:34] <nono> imp├®cr
[03:35] <sadrolla> plz , i can not print my desktop on kde 4.3.1 on ubuntu 9.0.4
[03:36] <SuperMiguel> where can i get this driver: Realtek 8111C
[03:36] <SuperMiguel> running ubuntu 8.10
[03:37] <Flannel> sadrolla: Try asking in #kubuntu, they should be able to help you
[03:38] <kayve> I mistyped my email during the register
[03:38] <Pici> kayve: registration help in #freenode
[03:39] <jmazer> SuperMiguel check out http://www.jamesonwilliams.com/hardy-r8168
[03:42] <faisal> ┘ć┘ä ┘Ŗž¬žŁž»ž½ ž¦žŁž»┘ā┘ģ ž¦┘äž╣ž▒ž©┘Ŗ┘ć
[03:42] <nono> ;)
[03:44] <nono> faisal: ┘äž¦
[03:44] <faisal> ┘ł┘ā┘Ŗ┘ü ┘ü┘ć┘ģž¬ ž¦┘Ŗž┤ ž¦┘é┘ł┘ä
[03:45] <bazhang> !sa | faisal
[03:46] <nono> faisal : 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 0
[03:46] <nono> ;)
[03:46] <IdleOne> bazhang: good work
[03:46] <faisal> thank you
[03:46] <bazhang> IdleOne, :)
[03:46] <IdleOne> was looking up country info ont he ip :)
[03:47] <Seth> hai guys
[03:47] <IdleOne> hello Seth
[03:47] <faisal> how to setup os in open moko
[03:47] <nono> moko?
[03:47] <aleron6> can anybody help me i dont know why the sound on my computer is sounding differently i just migrated to 9.04 and the sound changed
[03:48] <faisal> mopile =open moko
[03:49] <rigodeni> anyone know where firefox stores its bookmarks in the filesystem?
[03:50] <IdleOne> faisal: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions
[03:51] <jmazer> rigodeni firefox stores bookmarks in a file.
[03:52] <faisal> thank you but i dont spek E
[03:52] <IdleOne> rigodeni: /etc/firefox-3.0/profile/bookmarks.html
[03:52] <test34> why would anyone use xchat-gnome? it introduces bugs and removes features...
[03:52] <rigodeni> jmazer: i knew that, im asking which file it is, and where is it located, so i can setup a cron job to back it up automatically
[03:53] <rigodeni> IdleOne: thanks, to restore my bookmarks i just overwrite that file correct?
[03:53] <IdleOne> faisal: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Distributions/ar&action=edit
[03:53] <IdleOne> rigodeni: I believe so
[03:54] <jmazer> rigodeni you will find it /etc/firefox-3.0/profile/bookmarks.html
[03:54] <jmazer> that is the file.
[03:54] <n2diy> test34: I use it because it is the only IRC program I know. What are the bugs? What features are missing?
[03:54] <jmazer> cahnge to the version you use.
[03:54] <rigodeni> IdleOne: i can import .html files right?
[03:54] <Pici> jmazer: no... users do not have access to those folders.
[03:54] <IdleOne> rigodeni: honestly I don't know
[03:54] <rigodeni> IdleOne: instead of json files?
[03:55] <jmazer> oh he doesn't have root oh sorry.
[03:55] <test34> n2diy, install plain xchat and you will see there is lots more options.. as for bugs, try disabling joins/parts and then restart xchat-gnome.. the setting will not be saved
[03:55] <rigodeni> jmazer: do u know if FF supports importing html files as well as json files? ive used json only in the past
[03:55] <IdleOne> rigodeni: /j #ubuntu-mozillateam
[03:56] <IdleOne> n2diy: xchat-common is what you probably want
[03:57] <test34> uninstall xchat-gnome & xchat-gnome-common and install xchat & xchat-common packages
[03:57] <n2diy> test34: IdleOne, Ok, roger that, I've been thinking of looking at pidgin?
[03:57] <test34> n2diy, I don't like pidgin for chat but for instant msg its ok
[03:57] <IdleOne> n2diy: pidgin is ok for well pidgin users...
[03:58] <IdleOne> concerning irc
[03:58] <test34> by chat I meant IRC
[03:58] <jmazer> rigodeni it does. import json
[03:58] <mgmuscari> hey... i'm having a problem with gnome or nautilus. i can't seem to turn off drawing of the desktop background under Jaunty
[03:58] <rigodeni> jmazer: does it import html files also?
[03:58] <mgmuscari> does anybody have an inkling of how to do this? changing the properties that seem pertinent in gconf-editor has no effect..
[03:59] <jmazer> rigodeni, yes..
[03:59] <chico> i have a problem me with compiz in 9.04 and i can't seem to enabled it when is suported can someone help me plz thx
[03:59] <jmazer> firefox toolbar > bookmarks> orginize bookmarks>
[04:00] <IdleOne> !ccsm
[04:00] <mgmuscari> compiz is running fine in 9.04 for me, chico
[04:00] <Linux-idiot> compiz looks amazing
[04:00] <johannes_> hi I am looking for a raid controller SATA II, that is stable, fast and doesnt cost much, for PCIe. I only need RAID 1 and RAID 0, and it must be well supported by ubuntu?
[04:00] <IdleOne> !raid
[04:00] <D-rew> Haha, nice. Just configured my shares so that I can stream to my XBMC box from either Ubuntu Jaunty, or Windows 7.
[04:00] <mgmuscari> i have a pretty nice theme set up for myself, but i'm trying to get a 3d model of a ford mustang drawn behind my cube right now B)
[04:00] <D-rew> Regardless on how I'm dual-booted.
[04:01] <IdleOne> D-rew: nice
[04:01] <Linux-idiot> so with the partioning app supplied here would I be able to get rid of my windows partion altogether, or perhaps shrink it?
[04:01] <D-rew> It's been ages since I blew the dust off my Ubuntu. I got sucked into the Windows 7 RC.
[04:02] <Korlis> i tried the RC, but it don't offer anything new
[04:02] <IdleOne> !windows
[04:02] <nono> glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:02] <Korlis> same old thing ive been able to do since the beginnings of beryl
[04:02] <johannes_> IdleOne I am looking for hardware recommandations not howtos, I know what RAID is
[04:03] <SuspectZero> anyone know how i can check the size and used and unused specs of a partition on my hdd through cli?
[04:03] <Korlis> im trying out moon os on a live cd right now
[04:03] <IdleOne> johannes_: k,sorry
[04:03] <bruenig> SuspectZero: df
[04:03] <SuspectZero> bruenig, i'll check it out in a sec
[04:04] <Korlis> so far it's awesome
[04:04] <IdleOne> to much green
[04:04] <Korlis> yeah, but i changed the background and theme
[04:04] <Korlis> most stable ive ever seen e17 honestly
[04:05] <Korlis> been testing for an hour and nothing has crashed
[04:05] <clearscreen> Is it possible to keep us keyboard layout (I have a us keyboard), but add certain special key combo's? for example, I want alt+a to become ├ź
[04:06] <opit> Have you added a palette too the toolbar? Handy for accents
[04:06] <DanXbix> why is my firefox crashing when in utube
[04:06] <clearscreen> I have now :)
[04:06] <DanXbix> lastest dist
[04:08] <Korlis> DanXbix, probably flash
[04:08] <FuradordeSyS> DanXbix: no firefox the yes the flash
[04:08] <aleron6> so nobody here has problems with there sound from switching to jaunty
[04:08] <brandonban6> I had a question about usb devices in virtualbox, my guest machine doesn't see an external hard drive.... but it sees a usb powered printer just fine. I even tried using a blank filter and plugging after. Host is ubuntu guest is WinXp. Any thoughts?
[04:08] <DanXbix> im using swfdec
[04:09] <DanXbix> i installed adobe but note working
[04:09] <Korlis> DanXbix, try using the official adobe plugin
[04:09] <DanXbix> uninstall swfdec
[04:09] <Korlis> yeah
[04:09] <Korlis> if it don't work you can always reinstall it
[04:10] <test34> aleron6, I have some problems upgrading from jaunty to karmic
[04:10] <test34> aleron6, (with my sound)
[04:10] <Korlis> i'll brb im gonna reboot into my main os
[04:11] <DanXbix> not working
[04:11] <DanXbix> grrr
[04:11] <aleron6> so is there a way to degrade from jaunty
[04:11] <aleron6> back to 8.10
[04:12] <SeaPhor> aleron6, if you're gonna go back, go back to 8.04- LTS
[04:12] <aleron6> why
[04:12] <test34> aleron6, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1087940
[04:12] <aleron6> i liked 8.10
[04:13] <HawaiianEskimo> 8.4 is a long term supported release
[04:13] <shujingjing> Can not install eclipse in ubuntu 9.10 .
[04:13] <test34> aleron6, it probably would be easier to fix your sound then to downgrade
[04:13] <IdleOne> !downgrade | aleron6
[04:13] <IdleOne> !karmic | shujingjing
[04:14] <seidos> anyone know what speeds are typical over sftp xfering a tar file over a 100mb/s link?
[04:14] <test34> aleron6, you could try to post the "dmesg" output to pastie
[04:14] <shujingjing> Thank you, ubottu!
[04:15] <DanXbix> still not working sound works but video is broken
[04:15] <seidos> DanXbix: what video card?
[04:16] <DanXbix> 945
[04:16] <DanXbix> netbook
[04:16] <DanXbix> aspire one d250
[04:16] <seidos> DanXbix: oh
[04:16] <DanXbix> it my throw arround pc
[04:17] <seidos> DanXbix: I thought netbooks could be a good single pc
[04:17] <seidos> DanXbix: I had a asus eee pc for like 2 days, but I returned it, couldn't afford it
[04:17] <DanXbix> yeah they are cool
[04:18] <seidos> DanXbix: the hp netbooks I saw at the store were pretty nice
[04:18] <DanXbix> ill just use utube in win7 i think
[04:18] <seidos> DanXbix: I like how light they are.  I think a netbook would do everything I needed it to
[04:18] <seidos> DanXbix: do you already have a pc with ubuntu on it?
[04:18] <DanXbix> it does for me but i have a good desktop & lappy too
[04:18] <DanXbix> yup
[04:19] <seidos> DanXbix: it would be cool if you could get ubuntu to work on it
[04:19] <DanXbix> brb
[04:19] <Edz> Anyone have a few minutes to assist a complete Ubuntu n00b?  =)
[04:20] <Ziber> Why would my SSHd shut itself down?
[04:20] <seidos> Edz: I can try
[04:20] <Edz> Thx Seidos  =)
[04:22] <mezquitale> !ask | Edz
[04:22] <Edz> Fair enough!
[04:23] <Edz> When I perform a "check disk", upon booting from the Ubuntu CD, is that checking my hard drive for problems or the disk itself?
[04:23] <hentaiNeko> where can I get prior releases of ubuntu at
[04:23] <hentaiNeko> like 8.10
[04:23] <seidos> Edz: the cd
[04:23] <IdleOne> hentaiNeko: ubuntu.com
[04:24] <hentaiNeko> IdleOne, funny
[04:24] <seidos> hentaiNeko: do you not have access to #ubuntu?
[04:25] <hentaiNeko> seidos, this is #ubuntu is it not?
[04:25] <IdleOne> hentaiNeko: I was not joking
[04:25] <Edz> A storm knocked out my computer during a reboot, is there an easy way to check my hard drive for problems using Ubuntu?  (Note: Ubuntu is being run from a CD, not a full install)
[04:25] <seidos> hentaiNeko: he said ubuntu.com
[04:25] <hentaiNeko> and I saw
[04:25] <seidos> hentaiNeko: as in http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <hentaiNeko> I am there already seidos looking, giving a more direct link to prior releases is better then giving a link like ubuntu.com
[04:26] <seidos> Edz: this I'm not sure of
[04:26] <seidos> !chkdsk
[04:26] <LewisSharp> Hi. This may sound stupid but I just bought a new sata I drive that I have installed and I was wondering if I can partition it while in Ubuntu and with which tool (disk manager under the system->administration menu but it doesn't let me do anything with the sata drive). I have 3 hard drive, 2 ide and a new one as sata.
[04:26] <mezquitale> Edz,  yes, use fsck to check your hard drive, boot up with your CD and then use fsck to check your HD for errors
[04:26] <seidos> ah fsck as in file system check, cool
[04:26] <seidos> thank you mezquitale
[04:27] <Linux-idiot>  weeee.
[04:27] <Linux-idiot> americas army installed flawlessly
[04:27] <legend2440> hentaiNeko: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/
[04:27] <mezquitale> LewisSharp, install gparted, it's a lot easier to partition your hard drive using gparted
[04:27] <hentaiNeko> legend2440, thanks
[04:27] <LewisSharp> I'll try that right now, thanks :)
[04:28] <Edz> Thank you.  =)  Is there a specific way to run "fsck"?  I've tried typing the characters directly and using various bits of text pulled from the web, unfortunately none seem to be running.
[04:28] <IdleOne> hentaiNeko: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[04:28] <seidos> Edz: I just typed fsck in a terminal, and it executed fsck.  not sure if that helps
[04:29] <hentaiNeko> IdleOne, appericate it
[04:30] <Edz> i did the same and rcvd:  "fsck 1.41.4 (27-Jan-2009)"     Does that mean it has run?
[04:30] <hentaiNeko> does ubuntu have wget?
[04:30] <seidos> I think if I could do it over again I would have installed 64bit Ubuntu
[04:30] <thiebaude> !wget
[04:30] <seidos> hentaiNeko: I have used wget in ubuntu
[04:30] <pedro> sbd use backtrack 4 ?
[04:30] <hentaiNeko> ok so it comes with it by default, thanks seidos
[04:30] <mezquitale> Edz, that is an exercise that you can google,  it's somewhere in newsgroups, you just have to figure out how to use fsck, if youre booting up usiing a live CD then you shouldnt have a problem
[04:31] <kazuma_> whoa
[04:31] <kazuma_> ho
[04:31] <kazuma_> *hi
[04:31] <seidos> hentaiNeko: I'm pretty sure it does, if not apt-get install wget
[04:31] <mezquitale> hentaiNeko, yes, ubuntu should have wget
[04:31] <kazuma_> yep it got wget
[04:31] <seidos> hentaiNeko: I would recommend the LTS version
[04:31] <hentaiNeko> seidos, 8.04?
[04:31] <seidos> hentaiNeko: if I could do it over again, I wouldn't have upgraded to 8.10 and 9.04
[04:32] <seidos> hentaiNeko: yes
[04:32] <hentaiNeko> ok
[04:32] <hentaiNeko> I'll download it as well to the others
[04:32] <seidos> hentaiNeko: and if I could do it over again, I would install the 64bit version
[04:32] <hentaiNeko> its a 32bit cpu
[04:33] <seidos> hentaiNeko: I found out later my processors were 64bit
[04:33] <seidos> hentaiNeko: thought dualcore processors were 32bit
[04:33] <mezquitale> seidos, but you can do it all over again, it's all up to you
[04:33] <Edz> Ok, thx Mez.  I'll try doing a bit more research tomorrow and see if I can't get it work!
[04:33] <medstudent> I'm having some trouble with a new install of Ubuntu on my PC. After installation, I can login but it doesn't go past the brown screen afterwards.
[04:33] <medstudent> anyone around to help?
[04:33] <hentaiNeko> seidos, when did I say it was dual core?
[04:34] <sambagirl> hey can you install vtiger with like apt-get command?
[04:34] <hentaiNeko> seidos, oh you mean yourself
[04:34] <seidos> hentaiNeko: didn't say you did
[04:34] <seidos> hentaiNeko: yes, for myself, didn't know my cpu was 64bit
[04:34] <hentaiNeko> yeah sorry np
[04:34] <seidos> mezquitale: why?
[04:35] <mezquitale> medstudent, try reconfiguring your Graphical User Interface, click on "CTRL-ALT-F1" log in and type this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:35] <SeaPhor> medstudent, what hardware you have, desktop/laptop? brand/model?
[04:35] <kudi> everytime i try to install a gtk theme in openbox it looks very ugly and not what its supposed to look like is there an engine pack i can install or something
[04:36] <mezquitale> seidos, so you can test what distro and which version works best for you, i tried 8.04 and jaunty and 8.10 64 bit version plays best with my machine
[04:36] <medstudent> SeaPhor, mezquitale: it's a Dell desktop, Pentium 4, circa late 2002 early 2003
[04:36] <SeaPhor> medstudent, ATI? Nvidia? Intel?
[04:36] <Bookman> Is it possible to log into another computer via ssh, start a program, and leave it running after logging out of the ssh session?
[04:36] <SeaPhor> medstudent, try what mezquitale  suggested
[04:36] <medstudent> I can login but I can't do anything afterwards. My desktop doesn't load. I can't run terminal or anything.
[04:37] <seidos> Bookman: yes
[04:37] <mezquitale> medstudent, you need to configure your xserver, it should be configured for VGA with default resolution, from then you could configure your graphics card with your monitor and change the resolution
[04:37] <SeaPhor> medstudent, CTRL+ALT+F1 wont get a virtual terminal?
[04:37] <medstudent> ok... but I can see the login screen just fine
[04:37] <mezquitale> medstudent, right now ubuntu should be configured by default for VGA with a default resolution
[04:38] <seidos> Bookman: now let me try it :)
[04:38] <medstudent> SeaPhor can I hit that at the login screen?
[04:38] <SeaPhor> medstudent, yes
[04:38] <mezquitale> medstudent, log in first then type what I told you to type
[04:38] <Newbie> medstudent : boot the live cd and fix the resolution
[04:38] <medstudent> right now it's just a brown screen
[04:38] <Bookman> seidos: mine is a gui app.  Just to make things more complicated.
[04:38] <mezquitale> medstudent, dont boot the live CD, if you use the live CD when you boot up using your hard drive the changes will not be saved to your hard drive
[04:39] <medstudent> mezquitale, after I login, it's just a blank brown screen. there's nothing. I can move my mouse but it doesn't respond to input.
[04:39] <seidos> mezquitale: ah, interesting point.  I installed when 8.04 was newest version.  now I kind of need the laptop to get work down.  editing my novel.  http://www.tinyurl.com/m4arfd
[04:39] <medstudent> mezquitale, it's after a fresh install
[04:39] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> Everytime I start my computer, I enter my username and then the password, but for some reason, everytime i enter the password, it freezes.
[04:39] <sambagirl> does apt-get work for vtiger?
[04:39] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> I can move my mouse and everything, but once i typed in my password and press enter, it doesn't do anything
[04:39] <mezquitale> medstudent, so everything is installed then? you can boot up your machine and all you see is a login prompt?
[04:39] <medstudent> I was able to boot into the Live CD fine. mezquitale SeaPhor
[04:39] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> Has this ever happened to anyone here?
[04:39] <gwildor> sdfadfsadfsasdfa, try choosing a different session...
[04:40] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> what do u mean by that gwildor?
[04:40] <gwildor> sdfadfsadfsasdfa, on the login screen, it says session.....pick a different one
[04:40] <medstudent> mezquitale, yes it installed without error. Then I rebooted, got a login, which I was able to do just fine. Sound card works, screen looks great, then after login nada
[04:40] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> Yes sor
[04:40] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> Imma try that right now
[04:40] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> brb
[04:41] <medstudent> mezquitale, SeaPhor?
[04:42] <mezquitale> medstudent, press "CTRL-ALT-F1" , you can try F1-F12, F7 is graphical user interface, let me know what happens when you press one of those key combinations, you should see a login prompt
[04:42] <medstudent> mezquitale it doesn't respond
[04:42] <SeaPhor> medstudent, during the "brown screen", is there keyboard response? like caps-lock, num-lock etc?
[04:43] <medstudent> SeaPhor, I'm rebooting again. just a sec
[04:43] <mezquitale> medstudent, was your machine working fine with windows??
[04:43] <medstudent> yes, no problems
[04:43] <medstudent> ok, I have the login screen
[04:43] <medstudent> I can type my name fine
[04:44] <Logomachist> I have a problem. After logging in, the desktop comes up but without the menu bar. I have a mouse cursor, and I have wallpaper and  ctrl + alt + delete works. The "Help" button on the "restart the computer" menu brings up the help window but without the title bar. But that's all I can get to. Alt + F2 doesn't work. Has anyone else run into anything like this?
[04:44] <mezquitale> medstudent,  what did you do that you now have a login screen?
[04:44] <medstudent> I have options in the corner
[04:44] <medstudent> I rebooted
[04:44] <medstudent> I can always get the login screen upon reboot
[04:44] <medstudent> it's just afterwards that my desktop doesn't load
[04:45] <mezquitale> Logomachist, yes, there's a fix to that one, google it
[04:45] <kudi> whats that program called that automatically installs .debs
[04:45] <medstudent> mezquitale SeaPhor, ok I hit CTRL ALT F1 and got a terminal
[04:45] <IdleOne> kudi: double click the deb
[04:45] <medstudent> (at login)
[04:45] <medstudent> but it isn't formatted properly. huge font
[04:45] <kudi> IdleOne: i use openbox
[04:45] <mezquitale> medstudent, this will reconfigure your xserver:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:46] <pedro> hy
[04:46] <IdleOne> kudi: in a terminal you can type dkpg -i file-name.deb
[04:46] <mezquitale> medstudent, login first then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:46] <pedro> gnome no backtrak 4 ?
[04:46] <medstudent> ok, I CAN'T do anything after I login!
[04:46] <pedro> yes or no ?
[04:46] <medstudent> that's where it stops
[04:46] <medstudent> just a brown screen
[04:46] <Logomachist> Mezquitale, do you remember anything about what the solution is? I googled it earlier today, and a few solutions were proposed but I didn't think any of them particularly fit my problem.
[04:47] <D-rew> wasn't there someone in here asking about a custom keymapping?
[04:47] <IdleOne> medstudent: login at the terminal prompt in ctrl-alt-F1
[04:47] <mezquitale> Logomachist, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=837984
[04:47] <SeaPhor> medstudent, he means, At the terminal at ctrl+alt+f1 login THERE, then do the sudo ...
[04:47] <medstudent> ok
[04:47] <medstudent> it's really sluggish....as in it takes seconds before one letter appears. and the font is huge
[04:48] <Korlis> im baaaack
[04:48] <mezquitale> medstudent, that's because your video card and monitor are not correctly configured
[04:48] <medstudent> ok I'm trying ot put in my login info
[04:48] <IdleOne> medstudent: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg should fix that
[04:49] <Korlis> hey is there possb;y anyone tonight who can help me? Nautilus seg faults and won't open my home folder (will open everyone else;s, just not mine)
[04:49] <Korlis> im using thunar right now
[04:50] <SeaPhor> mezquitale, what you think about the grub menu failsafe option of fix xserver? for medstudent
[04:50] <IdleOne> Korlis: e17 correct?
[04:50] <Korlis> no, im back in gnome
[04:50] <mezquitale> SeaPhor, that is also another option that he could try if youre willing to walk him through it
[04:51] <medstudent> mezquitale SeaPhor, I'm trying to login but it's not straightforward...it says "Ubuntu 8.10 name-desktop tty1"
[04:51] <SeaPhor> mezquitale, its never worked for me,
[04:51] <IdleOne> medstudent: you dont see Login?
[04:51] <medstudent> ok now asking for login...
[04:52] <medstudent> it's taking 1-2 min between lines loading...
[04:52] <SeaPhor> medstudent, yes, thats a "virtual terminal" - TTY-1 or ctrl+alt+F1
[04:52] <IdleOne> when it asks for password you wont see any * but type it and hit enter
[04:52] <medstudent> what about login? will you see characters for my name?
[04:52] <IdleOne> yes
[04:52] <medstudent> ok I typed it a minute ago and it hasn't appeared
[04:53] <IdleOne> well I won't but you should :)
[04:53] <mezquitale> SeaPhor, if it's never worked for you then dont mention that option, it's worked for me when I installed a xubuntu on a laptop without a cd-rom
[04:53] <SeaPhor> medstudent, for name-yes, password-NO
[04:53] <medstudent> I'll wait it out
[04:53] <medstudent> the login screen (normal) is really snappy
[04:53] <Korlis> i guess i'll just keep using thunar for now and do a clean install when karmic is released
[04:54] <st01k> hey guys, none of my media players witll play .avi or .mov anymore.... i added codecs to be able to play .wmv and since then i can't play the other formats.  can anyone help?  (i've tried to play with mplayer, movie player, and vlc)
[04:54] <mezquitale> medstudent, how much memory do you have in your machine?
[04:54] <Korlis> ive been dist-upgrading since feisty, something was bound to break
[04:54] <tnnc> korlis are you around
[04:54] <st01k> ver 8.10
[04:54] <medstudent> not sure right now...I think 512
[04:54] <medstudent> it ran Windows fine
[04:55] <mezquitale> medstudent, your system is abnormally slow, I'm thinking your hard drive is about to die, is your hard drive making sounds like "chaka-chaka-whirrrlllllllllllllll"
[04:55] <IdleOne> Ran windows fine/worked in windows is not a barometer
[04:55] <medstudent> hahaha no
[04:55] <IdleOne> hahahahah chak-chaka-whirrrllll
[04:55] <medstudent> it's working fine, albeit it's 7 yrs old
[04:56] <Korlis> 7 years old??? back up your files
[04:56] <medstudent> I just formatted it
[04:56] <medstudent> to install Ubuntu
[04:56] <Korlis> then you wonr lose much when the HD dies, they normally take abuot 5 years to die, at least in my experience
[04:56] <mezquitale> medstudent, I have a PII that runs just fine using xubuntu, i tried ubuntu but it was too slow, it didnt take that long in text mode though
[04:57] <D-rew> Korlis, newer disks can last about 10, if you care for them properly.
[04:57] <pcw-s> ...
[04:57] <medstudent> hmmm well then I might have to get the XFCE version then
[04:57] <medstudent> I like GNOME though
[04:57] <mezquitale> medstudent, i think it has something to do with the hardware and the distribution you installed, what version did you install??
[04:57] <Korlis> ive never had a newer computer or hard drive, im poor, i get hand me downs, which, since im a linux user is just fine with me
[04:57] <t0s> couldn't be verified because the public key is not available, how do i get the public key?
[04:58] <Jkessler> I am running jaunty and just enabled desktop effects how do i select what effects to use?
[04:58] <SeaPhor> medstudent, might consider the "alternate cd" installation
[04:58] <medstudent> 8.10
[04:58] <IdleOne> !ccsm | Jkessler
[04:58] <medstudent> how is the alternate CD different, SeaPhor
[04:58] <pcw-s> *-*
[04:58] <Jkessler> ty
[04:58] <SeaPhor> ewww, medstudent 8.10 was the worst
[04:58] <medstudent> ok should I try with 9.04?
[04:59] <seidos> I had a 7 year old system, I installed ubuntu on it, then donated it to good will
[04:59] <seidos> anyone know what daemon does dns?
[04:59] <mezquitale> medstudent, I tried 8.04 and tried jaunty, they both made my AMD 64 bit desktop cry, I had to install 8.10 and it works like a charm
[04:59] <SeaPhor> yeah, and download an extra alternate iso just in case
[05:00] <Logomachist> Mezquitale, that link you gave me nails my problem, but none of the proposed solutions fix it.
[05:00] <mezquitale> medstudent, try 9.04 and if you have any issue at all then try 8.04, 8.04 is supposed to be a Long Term SUpport(LTS) which is supposedly the most stable version
[05:00] <medstudent> I have a 8.04 CD so I might pop that in
[05:00] <medstudent> this virtual terminal isn't working
[05:00] <ninel> my upgrade of  hardy to intrepid and then to jaunty   disabled the  unified button for IM status indicator + shutdown button how can I recover that?
[05:01] <medstudent> it asks me for my password, and I type it, and then it says login failed and then shows my password as my login
[05:01] <Guest59043> can anybody tell me how to get my vpn connection working?  i cannot get past the initial challenge.  I used my cisco pcf file to configure the connection.
[05:01] <mezquitale> Logomachist, I suggest you goggle these terms: "ubuntu menu bar disappeared", one of the threads I found helped me fix my desktop
[05:01] <mezquitale> rofl
[05:01] <lol> Bonjour
[05:01] <Logomachist> k thanks
[05:02] <SeaPhor> medstudent, i personally run 9.04 on this laptop, but i run 8.04 on my servers and on my Game box, and if i didnt love ubuntu so much, i'd say that 8.10 was the "ME" of ubuntu
[05:02] <medstudent> HAHA, ok I read you loud and clear
[05:02] <IdleOne> SeaPhor: i wouldnt go that far
[05:02] <mezquitale> medstudent, i think the machine is just fine.  When you see "Login:"  type your login, afterwards it will prompt you for your password like so: "Password:" type your password in and you should see a command prompt
[05:03] <medstudent> mezquitale yeah I assure you it's not that simple. there's some weird, serious lag
[05:03] <seidos> ubuntu
[05:04] <mezquitale> medstudent, reboot your machine into failsafe mode and see what happens
[05:04] <medstudent> how do i do that?
[05:05] <n8tuser> medstudent are you logged in now? you can sudo telinit 1  to get into single user mode
[05:05] <medstudent> I haven't gotten logged in
[05:05] <medstudent> it won't work
[05:06] <t0s> anyone know the ppa keys for gnome-do?
[05:06] <SeaPhor> medstudent, at the grub menu, arrow down 1 time
[05:06] <n8tuser> medstudent -> are you using a diff pc to chat now?
[05:06] <LucidGuy> Anyone try out Lotus Symphony?
[05:06] <medstudent> I'm using a Mac
[05:06] <TK_> *silence*
[05:06] <IdleOne> t0s: on the ppa page click in " What's this" next to the Signing key
[05:07] <TK_> Just wanted to thank you peeps. I ran into some trouble a while ago and you were of great help.
[05:07] <aleron6> anybody know when the next version of ubuntu is gonig to come out
[05:07] <IdleOne> TK_: did you bring cookies?
[05:07] <medstudent> October
[05:07] <biovore> oct
[05:07] <TK_> Of course
[05:07] <IdleOne> end of october
[05:07] <dm-madman> alright, so what precisely is the difference between "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" and "deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" in this sources.list file?
[05:07] <TK_> Have some
[05:07]  * TK_ hands everyone a jar of cookies
[05:07] <dm-madman> one is for source code packages?
[05:08] <aleron6> i hope it fixes the problem i have with the sound
[05:08] <gwildor> dm-madman, one is the compiled binary, the other is the soruce
[05:08] <aleron6> on intrepid it was good
[05:08] <LucidGuy> I can't wait for Karmic .. my recent upgrade from intrepid to jaunty has made my system unstable and junky.  Full install always from this point forward.
[05:08] <n8tuser> medstudent -> a new install? you may as well re-install
[05:08] <mezquitale> TK_, someone from the community helped me as well, if you learn something feel free to share the knowledge and help someone else
[05:08] <SpacePigeon> can somebody tell me which packages do i have to download to compile gnome 2.28 candidate release?
[05:08] <TK_> Will do
[05:08] <medstudent> should I try the alternate CD?
[05:09] <medstudent> what does that have?
[05:09] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: build-essential will have the tools you need to compile
[05:09] <TK_> this community is great, it's the least I can do
[05:09] <n8tuser> medstudent -> yes, and please learn to respond with the nick of the person you are chatting with,
[05:09] <medstudent> n8tuser ok
[05:09] <stranger_in> hello....... i want to enable mac filtering in squid proxy.... to this we have to compile squid like this "./configure --enable-arp-acl"........... how can i install this via synaptic
[05:09] <IdleOne> medstudent: alternate is a text install that install ubuntu gnome
[05:10] <medstudent> IdleOne so it installs the same version Ubuntu. No differences?
[05:10] <IdleOne> yup
[05:11] <Guest59043> where is a good place to learn the basics of linux?  for instance i was trying to edit a file in a protected folder but since i was not logged in as root it would not let me and i cannot log in as root.
[05:12] <biovore> Guest59043: on ubuntu.. use sudo
[05:12] <biovore> !sudo
[05:12] <medstudent> IdleOne I'm downloading the 9.04 alternate CD installer now
[05:12] <Guest59043> thanks
[05:12] <n8tuser> Guest59043 -> also you can google for intro do linux and you'd find several tutorials
[05:12] <IdleOne> medstudent: let's hope this works
[05:13] <ikey> Howdy do.
[05:13] <TK_> ^whyseaphor
[05:13] <TK_> -_-
[05:13] <Linux-idiot> sudo is the bees knees
[05:13]  * ikey prefers su -c
[05:13] <medstudent> IdleOne: yeah, I'm hoping. I'm enjoying my new Comcast download speed. Getting 1.5 MB/sec now.
[05:13] <Jorsher> ahhhhhh getfacl -R / > permissions.acl; setfacl --restore-permissions.acl just saved me from needing a reinstall :)
[05:14] <Guest59043> now back to my last question how do i get vpn running on ubuntu linux.  i have used the windows cisco pcf file (imported) to configure the network manager.  i apologize if this was answered already i did not see the answer.
[05:14] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, which package should i install?
[05:14] <IdleOne> build-essential
[05:14] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, sudo apt-get install build-essential (gnome-2.28?)
[05:14] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:15] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: wait
[05:15] <SpacePigeon> i see..
[05:15] <IdleOne> you want to compile gnome correct?
[05:15] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, yes, gnome 2.28
[05:15] <Dominik1> how can I tell ubuntu to check all drives on next booot?
[05:15] <IdleOne> ok are you getting compile errors?
[05:15] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, (do you recommend it? could i switch back to repos version?)
[05:16] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, no, I just don't know what to download/compile
[05:16] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: i stick to default
[05:16] <__lupo__> hi all, does anybody has any tip to make hibernate on ubuntu work fine?
[05:16] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, yeah, just want to try it out
[05:16] <legend2440> Dominik1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-force-fsck-on-the-next-reboot-or-boot-sequence/
[05:16] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, clutter and all
[05:16] <Dominik1> legend2440: thanks
[05:16] <dm-madman> how would i go about making a mirror of these ubuntu repositories
[05:17] <ikey> o_O
[05:17] <dm-madman> can they be rsync'd?
[05:17] <ikey> wget -r archives.ubuntu.com ?
[05:17] <dm-madman> ikey: i tried doing this with parts of it, and had some peculiar results
[05:17] <KB1JWQ> Then wait a while. :-)
[05:17] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: 2.28 wont be released till Sep 28
[05:17] <ikey> i bet. lol
[05:17] <ikey> xD
[05:18] <IdleOne> 23
[05:18] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, but there is a candidate release
[05:18] <dm-madman> ikey: lots of files, and 'find . -iname *.deb' shows not a thing
[05:18] <Dominik1> where will fsck report errors?
[05:18] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, Ill link you to it
[05:18] <dm-madman> err, i did -name actually
[05:18] <Dominik1> and how long will the disk check take on about 400 gigs?
[05:18] <ikey> Can someone tell me what kernel version is default in the Jaunty installs?
[05:18] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.devel.announce/52
[05:19] <mezquitale> Dominik1, as it's running it will report any errors it finds
[05:19] <IdleOne> 2.6.28
[05:19] <ikey> oh ok :(
[05:19] <ikey> Linux silver 2.6.31-rc9-ikey #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 23:11:45 BST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:19] <Dominik1> mezquitale: so I have to watch it ? : (
[05:19] <mezquitale> Dominik1, yes and it all depends on whether or not there are any errors on the hard drive, if there's no errors it shouldnt take that long
[05:20] <Jorsher> should "dpkg-reconfigure hal" disconnect me from a remote server/
[05:20] <t0s> whats the command to reset gnome panel to original?
[05:20] <Dominik1> mezquitale: bummer, will it ever prompt me for input (in case of an error), meaning can I go take get a beer or will I miss curical info?
[05:20] <Guest59043> thanks for all the help.
[05:20] <SeaPhor> Jorsher, um, prolly
[05:20] <dm-madman> i'll try wgeting http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/ again, that seems to be where most of the debs are
[05:21] <IdleOne> SpacePigeon: over my head but I know if your going to be compiling your going to need the build-essential package
[05:21] <Logomachist> Mez if you can remember any more specifics that would really help. Google isn't turning up anything useful. :(
[05:21] <SpacePigeon> IdleOne, indeed -- newest version installed.
[05:22] <mezquitale> Dominik1, you can run fsck and go get a beer, read this: http://kenneth-kin-lum.blogspot.com/2009/05/simple-guide-to-use-fsck-on-ubuntu.html
[05:22] <Dominik1> mezquitale: thanks
[05:23] <LucidGuy> Has anyone tried/purchased a Ubuntu Dell Mini 10v  (8.04 preloaded from Dell) ?
[05:23] <ikey> not me
[05:23] <t0s> !gnome-panel
[05:23] <ikey> lol.....
[05:23] <ikey> neither do any of us xD
[05:23] <Dominik1> :Q
[05:23] <ikey> its kinda temperamental
[05:23] <ikey> oh he left.
[05:24] <LucidGuy> Is Karmic Koala safe yet at alpha 5
[05:24] <IdleOne> !karmic
[05:24] <ikey> lol @ WILL break... might join.
[05:25] <LucidGuy> !karmic
[05:25] <LucidGuy> !pot
[05:25] <ikey> o_O
[05:25] <robysath> I have ubuntu server 9.04 installed. How can I get audio to work? i.e. flash movies are playing in firefox but no output from soundcard
[05:25] <LucidGuy> !breasts
[05:26] <Linux-idiot> haha
[05:26] <jcm99> Man if Karmic Koala could come out on the 28th of Oct I would have a good birthday
[05:26] <SpacePigeon> lol
[05:26] <SpacePigeon> yeah
[05:26] <SpacePigeon> it wouldn't be on my birthday but it would make oct 28th a nice day indeed
[05:27] <jcm99> :) yep, but guess I get a belated bday gift
[05:27] <mezquitale> Logomachist, so you don't have a panel at all right now?
[05:27] <Logomachist> That is correct.
[05:28] <ikey> ALT+F2 : gnome-panel
[05:28] <SpacePigeon> ALT+F2 is from gnome-panel
[05:28] <ikey> ok so that'll fail...
[05:28] <SpacePigeon> yeah haha
[05:28] <ikey> xD
[05:29] <SpacePigeon> Logomachist, you have no hotkey for terminal?
[05:29] <mezquitale> Logomachist, when you click on ALT-F2, you dont get a window where you can put in a command?
[05:29] <polk330> ALT-F4 from a windows machine on this chat!
[05:29] <SpacePigeon> I assigned super+T to terminal like a long time ago
[05:29] <polk330> lmao
[05:29] <Logomachist> ctrl + alt + F1 works. alt + F2 doesn't.
[05:29] <IdleOne> !ot > polk330
[05:29]  * ikey always used OpenBox so no probems there :)
[05:29] <polk330> haha IdleOne I was jk.
[05:30] <lookyaso> hi all, i created a LAMP and have setup port forwarding and am using dyndns open port tool for ports 80  21 22 ... and it is timing out.  i have seen multiple threads on this issue but no resolution
[05:30] <IdleOne> polk330: bad joke
[05:30] <manword34> downloading Ubuntu by torrent is secure ? and how they can know if available distribution on torrnt is the original ?
[05:31] <IdleOne> !md5 | manword34
[05:31] <SpacePigeon> manword34, get the torrent from the ubuntu sitte
[05:31] <mezquitale> Logomachist, go to to a console and type metacity --replace
[05:31] <dm-madman> manword34: should be able to check it with md5sum or something
[05:31] <Logomachist> Did that earlier. No dice.
[05:31] <Flannel> manword34: Torrents are checked by the client as they're downloaded (to verify it matches what the .torrent thinks), grab the .torrent from ubuntu.com and you'll be fine.  If you're worried, MD5 the resulting iso.
[05:31] <manword34> SpacePigeon ubottu thank you !
[05:32] <mezquitale> manword34, yes, it is secure, you can check by using a checksum
[05:32] <IdleOne> ikey: why do you /notice me? and if the bot has the answer why should I not use it
[05:32] <mezquitale> Logomachist, boot up in falsafe and try it again
[05:32] <ikey> IdleOne, Because I was keeping it out of the channel so as to not stray off topic.
[05:32] <Logomachist> kk
[05:33] <asdfadfs> Damnit
[05:33] <IdleOne> ikey: my answer is still valid
[05:33] <ikey> I know :) I keep bots too.
[05:33] <asdfadfs> Why does my ubuntu login screen freeze when I enter my password?
[05:33] <asdfadfs> I can still use my mouse
[05:34] <asdfadfs> but the ubuntu won't start up
[05:34] <asdfadfs> I tried changing the sessions
[05:34] <asdfadfs> ugh
[05:34] <asdfadfs> i dont know what to do?
[05:35] <KB1JWQ> asdfadfs: Does it unfreeze?
[05:36] <skel> asdfadfs: whats the deal?
[05:36] <IdleOne> ikey: may I message you?
[05:36] <ikey> IdleOne, sure :)
[05:37] <Logomachist> Mezquitale: I get "Window Manager Error: Unable to open X display"
[05:38] <mezquitale> Logomachist, were getting somewhere, backup your xorg.conf and reconfigure your xserver:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:39] <Logomachist> Where is xorg.conf?
[05:39] <asdfadfs> it doesn't unfreeze
[05:39] <asdfadfs> it just sits there
[05:39] <asdfadfs> i tried changing sessions
[05:39] <asdfadfs> ugh
[05:39] <mezquitale> /etc/X11
[05:39] <asdfadfs> It just freezes once i input my pw
[05:40] <skel> asdfadfs: whats going on?
[05:40] <asdfadfs> hey skel
[05:40] <asdfadfs> Okay
[05:40] <asdfadfs> I start ubuntu
[05:40] <asdfadfs> and once i hit the login screen
[05:40] <asdfadfs> i input my username
[05:40] <asdfadfs> then i input my password
[05:40] <asdfadfs> and once i input my pw, it just freezes
[05:40] <asdfadfs> i can move my mouse
[05:40] <skel> asdfadfs: backup your .gnome and .gconf dirs, then blow them away and /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:41] <asdfadfs> restart, shut down, change the session etc
[05:41] <asdfadfs> skel how would i do that
[05:41] <asdfadfs> i'm a linux n00b
[05:41] <FloodBot1> asdfadfs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <skel> asdfadfs: in a terminal cd ~
[05:41] <skel> asdfadfs: then mv .gnome .gnome-bak
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: same with anything named .gconf
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: the rm -rf .gnome .gconf*
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:42] <medstudent> IdleOne you still around?
[05:42] <skel> asdfadfs: if that works, something got borked in your desktop manager settings
[05:43] <asdfadfs> alright
[05:43] <asdfadfs> skel: imma try that
[05:43] <asdfadfs> if it doesn't work, thanks for helping
[05:43] <asdfadfs> :D
[05:43] <skel> asdfadfs: in which case, I'd go into each of those backups and do ls -lart | and look at the last things modified (bottom of listing)
[05:43] <skel> asdfadfs: and see what changed
[05:43] <asdfadfs> k
[05:43] <skel> asdfadfs: if you don't care about redoing your desktop settings, then just blow em away
[05:43] <Logomachist> Mezquitale: "use kernal framebuffer device interface?
[05:43] <Logomachist> "
[05:44] <IdleOne> medstudent: I might be
[05:44] <nullren> anyone using a macbook with external monitor? i want to know how to run in clamshell mode
[05:44] <medstudent> IdleOne which partitioning method should I choose?
[05:44] <mezquitale> Logomachist, I dont know what that is about but usually if you choose the defaults you should be good
[05:45] <skel> nullren: I used to on my old ibook
[05:45] <socratees> Hello everyone, I'm using karmic koala and did some s/w upgrades .. and my desktop panels have disappeared completely. any directions?
[05:45] <skel> nullren: there was some ati util
[05:45] <fccf> nullren: that would depend on your video hardware
[05:45] <mezquitale> nullren, what's a "macbook"???
[05:45] <SeaPhor> medstudent, are you dual-booting?
[05:45] <medstudent> SeaPhor no, just a straight Ubuntu install
[05:45] <IdleOne> medstudent: / 10Gig /swap 1Gig /home the rest
[05:45] <medstudent> "use entire disk" or "use entire disk and set up LVM"
[05:46] <DougM> does anyone know of a good C++ compiler for Ubuntu? I have never programed on Linux before.
[05:46] <SeaPhor> medstudent, then guided use entire disk
[05:46] <skel> DougM: sudo apt-get install g++
[05:46] <IdleOne> use entire disk medstudent
[05:46] <medstudent> thanks
[05:46] <DougM> skel: cool thanks a lot
[05:46] <fccf> !karmic |socratees
[05:46] <skel> DougM: np
[05:46] <nullren> fccf: skel: i didn't see anything obvious in the nvidia settings
[05:46] <nullren> is there another generic term for "clamshell" mode?
[05:46] <fccf> clamshell? what effect is that
[05:46] <socratees> ubottu: thanks
[05:47] <medstudent> SeaPhor IdleOne I'm doing the alternate CD install. At what point do I need to step in and make changes so this will work (vs the GUI install)
[05:47] <nullren> closing my laptop and running the screen on an external monitor
[05:47] <mezquitale> socratees, Logomachist is having the same problem, try this thread first: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156602
[05:47] <skel> nullren: mine was real old, g3 600 dual usb, so it may not apply if you've got an intel based
[05:48] <IdleOne> medstudent: from what I read earlier your issues was xserver. hopefully you wont have to do anything but supply username and password
[05:48] <medstudent> IdleOne so how will this install be different than the last?
[05:48] <SeaPhor> medstudent, you should be fine with defaults, but if you have questions you can ask at that point
[05:48] <asdfadfs> medstudent what med school u attend?
[05:48] <IdleOne> medstudent: new release ( supports your hardware better )
[05:49] <IdleOne> we hope :)
[05:49] <medstudent> so will it ask if I want to configure xserver?
[05:49] <medstudent> asdfadfs Vanderbilt
[05:49] <medstudent> asdfadfs: you in med school too?
[05:49] <asdfadfs> nope
[05:49] <asdfadfs> i was just curious
[05:49] <skel> medstudent: I just shutdown gdm and then from a console to sudo X -configure
[05:49] <Dominik1> is it safe to check the disks through gparted? it gives me warnings about loss of data
[05:50] <skel> medstudent: and drop that config in /etc/X11
[05:50] <skel> medstudent: works 90% of the time
[05:50] <medstudent> skel: you lost me
[05:50]  * asdfadfs nominates skel for +o in this channel
[05:50] <mezquitale> medstudent, were all curious, asdfadfs is the only noob with the innocence to ask
[05:50] <asdfadfs> hey
[05:50] <medstudent> mezquitale haha
[05:50] <asdfadfs> lol
[05:50] <asdfadfs> i am a noob
[05:50] <skel> medstudent: X -configure is a command that probes your hardware and generates an x.config.new in your cwd
[05:50] <asdfadfs> i don't care
[05:50] <medstudent> yeah I am not very creative with usernames
[05:50] <asdfadfs> only way people can get smart is by asking stupid questions
[05:51] <medstudent> skeL: so something I would run later after install then?
[05:51] <mezquitale> asdfadfs++
[05:51] <lost12> I have a bunch of stupid ones then.
[05:51] <asdfadfs> hahah
[05:51] <SeaPhor> IdleOne, mezquitale medstudent you're on a MAC, right?
[05:51] <mezquitale> !ask | lost12
[05:51] <medstudent> yes I am
[05:51] <IdleOne> medstudent: but installing to pc?
[05:52] <SeaPhor> IdleOne, mezquitale medstudent just so we're all on same page
[05:52] <medstudent> yes I'm on a Mac on IRC and installing to an old Dell
[05:52] <Logomachist> Mezquitale: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't seem to do anything.
[05:52] <skel> medstudent: sorry, I thought you were having trouble with configuration on a current linux setup
[05:52] <IdleOne> medstudent: ok
[05:52] <medstudent> skel: never made it that far. hopefully this will work. thanks.
[05:52] <lost12> I have a wmp54G Wireless card by Linksys will that work with ubuntu?
[05:52] <skel> medstudent: gl :)
[05:53] <mezquitale> Logomachist, you want to talk to a guru, you have to come back when someone like DrWillis is around
[05:53] <dm-madman> dm-madman: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[05:53] <medstudent> skel: thanks. this is my foray into Linux. I hope I like it. If so, I'm going to dump Mac too and just get a spec'd out PC and put Ubuntu on it :)
[05:53] <SeaPhor> lost12, is that the usb? i never got mine working but that was in 8.04
[05:53] <dm-madman> dm-madman: oh, thanks! i knew you guys would help me out!!
[05:53] <skel> medstudent: I went the other way for my home setup :-P
[05:53] <Logomachist> Socratees: If we're having the same problem, email me at Samnis@yahoo.com. This way if either of us figure out the solution we can let the other know what it is.
[05:54] <skel> medstudent: @ work I use Ubuntu and @ home I use OSX
[05:54] <medstudent> skel: yeah it will be hard to leave OS X. Works so well.
[05:54] <socratees> logomachist: yeah i can do that.
[05:54] <skel> medstudent: just because of the app availability
[05:54] <mezquitale> medstudent, if you have a mac why dont you try installing linux on it?  Running linux on my desktop wasn't easy, I had to try 8.04, jaunty, my machine seems to like 8.10
[05:55] <skel> medstudent: www.virtualbox.org is a free vmware like software that you can use to run linux inside mac fyi
[05:55] <mezquitale> Logomachist, sounds like your bug and socratees bug should be sent in to the developers
[05:55] <fccf> medstudent: you can also run ubuntu in parallels
[05:55] <medstudent> mezquitale: my macbook is very stable. I don't want to mess with it and HD space is a premium even on my 160 GB HD. So I am giving it a go on an old PC first
[05:56] <medstudent> skel: I have Fusion for Windows already
[05:56] <medstudent> I guess I could throw Ubuntu on there too
[05:56] <skel> medstudent: ah cool
[05:56] <mezquitale> medstudent, that is a very good idea
[05:56] <dm-madman> rsync: opendir "pool/main/k/kde4bindings/.~tmp~" (in ubuntu) failed: Permission denied (13) <-- wtf?
[05:56] <socratees> mezquitale: I'm getting an 404 errors from the servers on my sources.list when i try to upgrade
[05:56] <medstudent> should I encrypt my home directory?
[05:56] <fccf> medstudent: I run an 8 Gb virtualbox ubuntu on my laptop ... not huge
[05:56] <skel> asdfadfs: did that work for you?
[05:56] <medstudent> any reason not to?
[05:57] <skel> medstudent: speed mostly
[05:57] <mezquitale> socratees, sounds like those servers are no more or youre not connected to the internet
[05:57] <skel> medstudent: depends on what you'll be accessing in there
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> paranoia about someone stealing your machine :)
[05:57] <medstudent> probably nothing needing encrypting
[05:57] <skel> medstudent: for light / medium usage its probably no big deal
[05:57] <skel> if you stuck a mysql db or something in your home dir
[05:57] <skel> that'd suck a bit
[05:57] <mezquitale> medstudent, on a laptop I suggest you encrypt your home directory, on your desktop don't encrypt your home directory unless you have material you dont want the FBI, CIA, NSA, and the FDA to see
[05:58] <medstudent> mezquitale: ok thanks
[05:58] <medstudent> so far so good
[05:58] <skel> mezquitale: lol FDA?
[05:58] <dm-madman> oh, well it appears to be syncing anyway, so nvm
[05:58] <IdleOne> FDA? what does the food and drug administration want with your pc mezquitale ?
[05:58] <SeaPhor> you left out CPS
[05:58] <mezquitale> Logomachist, your luck just got better Dr_Willis is in the house
[05:59] <shachaf> Hmm. A friend is moving /home to a separate partition after having initially installed everything in /. Is there some easy Ubuntu-y way of doing it, or does it need to be done manually? (Editing fstab and moving the files and such)
[05:59] <mezquitale> skel, he's a medstudent, he knows what I'm talking about, willis
[05:59] <SeaPhor> shachaf, yes
[05:59] <IdleOne> !home
[05:59] <skel> shachaf: the cheap / lazy way is just to create a symlink to the new directory after mv it
[06:00] <zebaztian> what's app can i  use to switch wav to mp3?
[06:00] <skel> zebaztian: lame I think
[06:00] <shachaf> zebaztian: LAME?
[06:00] <dm-madman> shachaf: uhhh, what's hard about adding a line to fstab and moving the files?
[06:00] <SeaPhor> !home | shachaf
[06:00] <shachaf> dm-madman: Nothing, but I'm helping someone through this over IM.
[06:00] <shachaf> dm-madman: Which makes everything more complex.
[06:00] <zebaztian> shachaf, lame?
[06:00] <dm-madman> shachaf: just tell them all 3 commands ffs
[06:01] <zebaztian> sudo aptitude install LAME ?
[06:01] <SeaPhor> shachaf, and if you want to do from initial install i can show you that as well
[06:01] <shachaf> dm-madman: Yes, yes. What about the UUID=... line in fstab? I've never figured that part out.
[06:01] <Logomachist> Hello Dr_Willis. :) I'm told you're the resident guru?
[06:01] <shachaf> SeaPhor: From initial install is easy. :-) It's what I've always done.
[06:01] <Logomachist> I have a problem. After logging in, the desktop comes up but without the menu bar. I have a mouse cursor, and I have wallpaper and  ctrl + alt + delete works. The "Help" button on the "restart the computer" menu brings up the help window but without the title bar. But that's all I can get to. Alt + F2 doesn't work. Has anyone else run into anything like this?
[06:01] <dm-madman> shachaf: what about it?
[06:01] <fccf> medstudent: just password protection and only drs. and drs. employees allowed data access, w/o patient consent, or medical necessity
[06:02] <zebaztian> shachaf, couldn't find packages lame
[06:02] <shachaf> dm-madman: What would he add? "/dev/sda4" or some UUID line?
[06:02] <mezquitale> zebaztian," lame MyFile.wav MyNewFile.mp3"
[06:02] <shachaf> zebaztian: Probably it's in "universe" or "multiverse" or something.
[06:02] <SeaPhor> shachaf, http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=66
[06:03] <zebaztian> mezquitale, do i have to specify the file location /path?
[06:03] <dm-madman> shachaf: i just add the device node unless he's a drive-shuffler or something
[06:03] <dm-madman> shachaf: and if he is, a LABEL= line would do just fine
[06:04] <mezquitale> zebaztian, if your already in the path then no, but if you want to creaate an mp3 file from your wav file that's stored in your desktop and put it into your library in another folder then yes
[06:04] <shachaf> dm-madman: How does the LABEL thing work? Is it an argument to mke2fs?
[06:04] <mezquitale> zebaztian, install lame first: sudo apt-get install lame
[06:05] <zaccour> how do i save an ubuntu bootable image to an sd/micro sd card?
[06:05] <skel> zaccour: if you have it installed somewhere else already, there's a tool under Preferences or Administration
[06:05] <skel> zaccour: can't remember which
[06:05] <skel> zaccour: something like ubuntu usb image tool or something
[06:06] <skel> zaccour: at least in Jaunty
[06:06] <dm-madman> shachaf: tell him this: mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda4 && mkdir /mnt/mynewhome && mount /dev/sda4 /mnt/mynewhome && cp -av /home/* /mnt/mynewhome/ && umount /mnt/mynewhome && e2label /dev/sda4 /home && echo '/home LABEL=/home ext3 defaults,noatime 0 0' >> /etc/fstab && mount /home
[06:06] <mezquitale> Dr_Willis was here briefly then he lft
[06:06] <Logomachist> :/
[06:06] <dm-madman> shachaf: perhaps substitute ext3 for something else
[06:06] <dm-madman> shachaf: one command for him to cut and paste :)
[06:07] <shachaf> dm-madman: What about deleting the files in the old /home? :-)
[06:07] <dm-madman> shachaf: he has to run it as root, though, so 'sudo su' first?
[06:07] <SeaPhor> shachaf, UUID is somewhat confusing, as it is relative to the device/box/os... but tis command will give it... sudo vol_id --uuid /dev/sda#
[06:07] <mezquitale> Logomachist,  you have to type the name first, as in the first few letters, then tab it, if he's using xchat he'll see it red and he'll know it's addressed to him
[06:08] <skel> welp, the new woot sucks, I'm off to bed, g'night
[06:08] <socratees> Logomachist: there?
[06:08] <dm-madman> shachaf: yeah after that he can do this: mkdir /mnt/rootbind && mount -o bind / /mnt/rootbind && rm -rf /mnt/rootbind/home
[06:08] <mezquitale> UUID is not confusing at all, it's the best way to put hard drives in your fstab
[06:09] <Logomachist> Yeah. I was looking for his nick on the room list, when I couldn't find it I assumed he was under a pseudonym.
[06:09] <dm-madman> shachaf: and then umount /mnt/rootbind, and maybe rmdir /mnt/{mynewhome,rootbind}
[06:10] <shachaf> dm-madman: It wouldn't cause trouble to do this while logged in as a user?
[06:10] <dm-madman> shachaf: nope
[06:13] <dm-madman> shachaf: might do something odd if he's downloading while doing it or something, but i can't imagine it causing any major malfunctions (anything a quick relog won't fix)
[06:13] <zebaztian> mezquitale, I am using soundconverter instead, but it does'nt seem to give an option for converting to mp3
[06:13] <mezquitale> Logomachist, there are other gurus that come in the room every now and then so don't despair, just try different times, it's night time most of America, maybe some europeans will log in when it's night time in their time zone
[06:13] <dm-madman> shachaf: it's really quite simple, you just format, copy, mount, delete
[06:14] <mezquitale> zebaztian, ive heard about soundconverter, lame was the easiest for me so youre on your own with soundconverter
[06:14] <fccf> !ask | Logomachist
[06:14] <Logomachist> mezquitale: K
[06:15] <zebaztian> mezquitale, it seems as though i already installed lame however i can't see it,is this a shell only app?
[06:15] <mezquitale> Logomachist, ask your question again, maybe fccf can help you, if not hopefully someone else later on can
[06:15] <Logomachist> I have a problem. After logging in, the desktop comes up but without the menu bar. I have a mouse cursor, and I have wallpaper and  ctrl + alt + delete works. The "Help" button on the "restart the computer" menu brings up the help window but without the title bar. But that's all I can get to. Alt + F2 doesn't work. Has anyone else run into anything like this?
[06:15] <mezquitale> zebaztian, yes, lame is used through the command line as far as i know
[06:15] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:16] <SeaPhor> mezquitale, i agree that its the best way of adding to the fstab, the confusing part is getting at the UUID, especially when the df -ah and whats listed in the fstab differ as far as what sdax and sday are, i had 2 cases where they conflicted eachother and had to guess which was correct in order to get the right UUID associated to the fstab
[06:16] <dm-madman> sorry ubottu. you made my ignore list for being "most annoying bot"
[06:16] <fccf> !error
[06:16] <zebaztian> mezquitale, so if i want to use lame first i cd to cdda://sr0/ and then i do what?
[06:16] <shachaf> dm-madman: Don't you mean LABEL=/home /home ...?
[06:16] <dm-madman> it's vol_id --uuid /dev/sdxN
[06:17] <dm-madman> shachaf: isn't that what i wrote?
[06:17] <dm-madman> shachaf: yeah, i meant that, i was typing too fast
[06:17] <mezquitale> SeanTater, youre confusing yourself, in the future try "sudo fdisk -l" and then "sudo blkid"
[06:17] <zaccour> i'm going back to 9.04 because in karmic there isn't sources needed for gyachi
[06:17] <mezquitale> SeaPhor, , youre confusing yourself, in the future try "sudo fdisk -l" and then "sudo blkid"
[06:18] <zaccour> is there a way to downgrade?
[06:18] <dm-madman> shachaf: sorry, good job catching that one
[06:18] <mezquitale> zebaztian, what is it exactly youre trying to do?  I thought you were trying to change a wav file to an mp3 file
[06:18] <fccf> zaccour: er um kinda... but not reccommended and definatly not supported
[06:19] <Peddy> Logomachist, it sounds like Compiz is messing things up a little (perhaps your graphics card isn't working properly). Can you do ctrl-alt-F2 after logging in?
[06:19] <SeaPhor> mezquitale, did that- it matched the gui, and the fstab, but not the df -ah
[06:19] <zebaztian> mezquitale, yes, so the wavs are at cdda://sr0/ as they're in a cd, adn i want the mp3s to be ripped onto the desktop
[06:19] <Logomachist> F2 or F1?
[06:20] <cambo> wasssssup
[06:20] <Peddy> Logomachist, either.
[06:20] <fccf> Logomachist: does it matter, or is a terminal a terminal
[06:20] <mezquitale> zebaztian, yes, first cd to where the wav files are stored then in the path you have to specify the path to the desktop as in : lame myfile.wav /home/username/Desktop/myfile.mp3
[06:20] <Logomachist> Peddy: Yes they both work.
[06:20] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:20] <Peddy> Logomachist, you will be presented with a black login screen, log in there.
[06:21] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, my sound just stopped, i've killall pulseaudio and tried again, usually this fixes it for me.
[06:21] <mezquitale> fccf, t =t, the answer is t
[06:21] <Logomachist> Peddy: Done
[06:21] <shachaf> How would I find out a device's label?
[06:21] <dm-madman> shachaf: if it's ext2/3?
[06:21] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK, type "DISPLAY=:0.0 metacity --replace" without quotes.
[06:21] <shachaf> dm-madman: Yes.
[06:21] <DougM> is there a way to get my computer specs on my desktop.. including things like system usage?
[06:21] <dm-madman> shachaf: e2label /dev/wtf
[06:22] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:22] <ikey> DougM, get conky
[06:22] <ikey> DougM, sudo apt-get install conky
[06:22] <cambo> does anyone know of a gui to administer an slapd server?
[06:22] <timothyarnold> hello! I'm having terrible Grub problems after an install of Ubuntu. Can someone help?
[06:22] <fccf> !repeat | zaccour
[06:22] <ikey> Then google for a conky config
[06:22] <DougM> ikey: alright cool thanks
[06:22] <ikey> np
[06:22] <Peddy> Logomachist, after you've typed that, press ctrl-alt-F7 (has to be F7).
[06:22] <mezquitale> DougM, you want to install system monitor
[06:23] <shujingjing> I lost my ubuntu main menu items after I tried to edit it ,and there was no backups at /home/myhome/.config/menus/ . So I removed the file Applications.menu under that folder. After I log out my account and log in again,the main menu iterms is back.I just don't know how this happened.Maybe the main menu stores datas in other place too.So where is it?
[06:23] <mezquitale> !ask| timothyarnold
[06:23] <shachaf> dm-madman: Ah. Sorry, apparently I can't read man pages today.
[06:23] <Logomachist> Peddy: Do I hit enter after typing the DISPLAY line?
[06:23] <zaccour> do i get ubuntu onto an sd card the same way i would a usb flash?
[06:23] <Peddy> Logomachist, yes.
[06:23] <dm-madman> shachaf: 'sokay
[06:24] <dm-madman> shachaf: you caught my goofball error, so i'll overlook that one
[06:24] <mezquitale> Logomachist, just for kicks create another user and see what happens
[06:24] <Logomachist> I get the error "Window Manager Error: Unable to open the display 0"
[06:24] <DougM> ikey: hey i just installed it and found http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/My+Conky+Config?content=62536 do i just download that theme?
[06:24] <DougM> ikey: sorry im new to ubuntu
[06:24] <Logomachist> mezquitale: How do I create another user w/out the GUI?
[06:24] <timothyarnold> I have two physical hard drives. I had a Linux distro installed on one of them, and then installed Ubuntu on the other physical drive (it formatted the second). I was hoping to be able to dual boot into these two distros, but now grub comes up and only offers me Ubuntu. I've tried editing /boot/grub/menu.lst to add the other distro but to no avail. Actually, when I do this, it appears on my grub list and it begins to boot but then giv
[06:24] <timothyarnold> UUID error of some sort. Can someone help me boot into my old install?
[06:24] <zaccour> this channel isn't very helpful today :(
[06:25] <ikey> DougM, dload it then extract to your home directory
[06:25] <cambo> logomachist adduser username
[06:25] <mezquitale> Logomachist, try what Peddy is suggesting first, if you still cant resolve your problem then just goggle on how to add/remove users using the command line
[06:25] <DougM> ikey: cool thanks
[06:25] <ikey> np
[06:25]  * dm-madman wonders how many GB this ubuntu mirror will take...
[06:25] <Logomachist> mezquitale: ok
[06:25] <cambo> Logomachist: sudo adduser username
[06:26] <cambo> Logomachist: sudo deluser username
[06:26] <shujingjing> Main menu was gone,And it's back after I remove ~/.config/menus/applications.menu.So why?
[06:26] <Peddy> Logomachist, did you type it exactly line-for-line DISPLAY=:0.0 ?
[06:26] <Peddy> letter for letter*
[06:26] <Logomachist> PEDDY: yes
[06:26] <fccf> timothyarnold: sounds like you have the wrong drive lettering passsing to grub in menu.list see !grub
[06:26] <fccf> !grub
[06:27] <Logomachist> PEDDY: WAIT, let me try again
[06:27] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, that is not a big issue, that's happened to me a few times, first look at your hard drives, you want to know their location "sudo fdisk -l" then look at the "menu.lst" file, you have a new file that is being used by the drive youre using to boot up and you have an old one in the other drive, once you find those files ask more questions
[06:28] <Peddy> Does anyone know how to list X servers running on a machine and the display they're on?
[06:28] <kermit> when my computer shuts down improperly, lots of seemingly random settings get reset to defaults, is that a gconf issue?  gconf seems to bring a lot of the shortcomings of win to linux.
[06:28] <mezquitale> Logomachist, dont capitalize his nick, nobody likes that, instead type the first few letters of his nick, tab it and use the nick exactly as it appears
[06:29] <Logomachist> Sorry ^_^;; I hit caps lock by accident.
[06:29] <dm-madman> Peddy: ps -f `pidof X`
[06:30] <Peddy> thanks dm-madman :)
[06:30] <dm-madman> np
[06:30] <Logomachist> Peddy: I forgot the ':' the first time. I typed the line and then hit ctrl+alt+F7 like you said. The screen went back to the wallpaper.
[06:30] <Peddy> Logomachist, good. Can you do alt-F2 now?
[06:31] <Peddy> You know, the Run dialog thing.
[06:31] <dm-madman> Peddy: it will really just tell you the full commandline for X, which will include the display
[06:31] <Logomachist> No
[06:32] <wizzo50> j\tran
[06:32] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK, go back to the other terminal, ctrl-c out of metacity, and type the same thing as before, but instead do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace'.
[06:32] <DougM> ikey: alright i extracted the file to my home directory mind helping me.. im not sure where to go from here
[06:33] <ikey> DougM, what files were there?
[06:33] <DougM> ikey: conkyrc, weather.sh, weather.xslt
[06:33] <Logomachist> Peddy: What do I press to go back to the other terminal... ctrl + alt + F1? Then I hit ^c and type "gtk-window-decorator --replace"?
[06:34] <ikey> DougM, rename conkyrc to .conkyrc
[06:34] <dm-madman> Can you get CDs or DVDs with a bunch of the packages on it?  maybe an ISO or something?
[06:34] <DougM> ikey: ok i did that
[06:34] <ikey> then run conky
[06:35] <Peddy> Logomachist, yep - ctrl-alt-F1. Then, hit up, and delete the 'metacity --replace' part, replacing it with 'gtk-window-decorator --replace'.
[06:35] <timothyarnold> mezquitale, I have both menu.lst files. I have the Ubuntu file because it's the OS I'm booting into, and I have the old one (Fedora) because I am able to mount the partition with the /boot folder from that distro. I'm not sure how (or which one) to edit, however, to enable booting into Fedora upon restart. I tried taking the Fedora version (from the Fedora menu.lst file) and sticking it as an option in the Ubuntu menu.lst file, right 
[06:35] <timothyarnold> the Ubuntu part. This makes Fedora show up on the Grub list when I restart, and seems to start the boot process, but I get an error soon after. It completes "Setting up Logical Volume Management" and fails "Checking filesystems." It says fsck.ext3: unable to resolve 'UUID=....'
[06:35] <wizzo50> \J #IP
[06:36] <DougM> ikey: should the .conkyrc file be directly in my home directory because its inside a folder then inside another
[06:36] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: perhaps you've unwittingly removed or formatted the FC root partition?
[06:36] <Logomachist> Peddy: Done
[06:36] <lsemple_> 9/11 was an inside job
[06:36] <timothyarnold> dm-madman maybe? no idea what the FC root partition is
[06:37] <zebaztian> mezquitale, what if i want to convert several files all at once?
[06:37] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: certainly sounds that way
[06:37] <newser> I need help. I cannot play any video files in vls, mplayer or the default video player. What can I do to fix this problem? When I try to play any videoclip, the window just closes
[06:37] <ikey> DougM, directly yes.
[06:37] <Peddy> Logomachist, go back to VT7 with ctrl-alt-F7/
[06:37] <DougM> ikey: ok
[06:37] <timothyarnold> dm-madman do you know how to fix this?
[06:37] <steven__> Is there a program for Ubuntu that is like Dreamweaver?
[06:37] <Logomachist> Peddy: done.
[06:38] <Peddy> steven__, Seamonkey I think, I don't have experience.
[06:38] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: not really possible, assuming I am correct
[06:38] <Peddy> Logomachist, still not working?
[06:38] <DougM> ikey: alright i put it directly into that folder.. now where should I go from here?
[06:38] <Logomachist> Peddy: Still not working
[06:39] <ikey> DougM, everything in that folder. then ALT+F2 conky
[06:39] <steven__> !Scream
[06:39] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: If you actually have removed and/or overwritten the FC root partition, it's gone.
[06:39] <timothyarnold> hmmm dhm-madman, mezquitale seemed to think it was easily fixable... mezquitale?
[06:39] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - go back to VT1 and repeat the ^C thing, replacing 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' with 'gnome-panel'. It's a wild shot, but it might work.
[06:39] <timothyarnold> dm-madman is there a way to check this?
[06:40] <newser> I cannot play any video files in vlc, mplayer or the default video player. When I try to play any videoclip, the videoplayer window just closes
[06:40] <Peddy> Plus it might give interesting output.
[06:40] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, sounds like the issue is between multi boot between ubuntu and fedora, I would google the issue, what you want to do is edit the "menu.lst" file on the ubuntu partition, I suggest you boot up to ubuntu "sudo fidsk -l" identify which partition has fedora, then get the uuid by : sudo blkid , then use the UUID in the menu.lst file
[06:40] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: mount any unmounted partitions, and see if FC is on them
[06:40] <Nozy> hey all
[06:40] <steven__> !Screem
[06:40] <timothyarnold> dm-madman i can mount the fedora partitions
[06:41] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: well then you have not removed or overwritten them
[06:41] <steven__> Which is better...Bluefish or Screem?
[06:41] <Techtronic> timothyarnold fedora or ext4 or ext3 ?
[06:42] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: you should do what he said, get the UUIDs and put them in your kernel command lines
[06:42] <timothyarnold> mezquitale -- I've googled for several hours now, which is why I came here. I guess I don't understand where the computer looks when it boots. Has it mounted anything when grub comes up? Does it look at the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in the old fedora physical disk (I can mount the /boot folder. It is in /dev/sda1 whereas ubuntu is /dev/sdb1. This is where I got the menu.lst file from Fedora)?
[06:42] <mezquitale> zebaztian, if you want to do multiple files then you want to learn about scripting, havent done scripting in a long while, sorry but what you want to do is to create a loop that iterates in all files in a directory, if youre a professional that does hundreds of files then i suggest you learn about scripting, it will save you a lot of time
[06:42] <timothyarnold> techtronic not sure, how might I check? I want to say ext3 but unsure
[06:43] <zebaztian> mezquitale, i got the following output
[06:43] <zebaztian> lame: excess arg /home/sebastian/Desktop/DomingoAM.mp3
[06:43] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, your issue is with "dual booting ubuntu and fedora".  If you installed ubuntu last then ubuntu is booting up first and it matters what ubuntu sees
[06:44] <mezquitale> zebaztian, what did you type first?
[06:44] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay. Is there a way to make an option to use all the Fedora partitions to mount to /boot etc ? I tried to do this I guess and failed
[06:44] <zebaztian> mezquitale, lame Track 1.wav /home/sebastian/Desktop/DomingoAM.mp3
[06:44] <administrator__> how to format pen drive on ubuntu 9
[06:44] <spitzi> Hi. I had a local terminal connect via ssh to a remote host overnight, in order to run some app, but the connection timed out. Now that I've relogged-in, I still see the PID of that app, only that now its been adopted by pid 1. Can I rejoin it as a child of the new terminal I'm now using, so that I can again monitor its output ?
[06:44] <Logomachist> Peddy: I got my panels back, but with a dialog box saying "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID: GNOME-FastUserSwitchApplet" Do you want to delete the applet from your configuration?"
[06:45] <zebaztian> mezquitale, i already cd to desktop btw
[06:45] <Logomachist> Peddy: What should I answer?
[06:45] <Sememmon> spitzi: not that I'm aware of, but you might want to look in to a utility called "screen"
[06:45] <administrator__> how to format pen drive on ubuntu 9
[06:45] <Peddy> Logomachist, you can leave it for now, I don't think it's your main problem.
[06:45] <spitzi> Sememmon - ok, I will
[06:45] <Sememmon> its handy =]
[06:45] <Sememmon> for stuff like that.
[06:45] <Peddy> Logomachist, try adding a new user through the GUI with system>administration>users and groups
[06:45] <timothyarnold> mezquitale: blkid gives me LABEL and UUIDs. How do I put this in menu.lst?
[06:45] <steven__> Anyone here know anything about KompoZer?
[06:45] <dm-madman> administrator__: mkfs /dev/wtf
[06:46] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, I have done this using ubuntu.  My installs have crapped out and only gave an option to use the last install that I used.  I haave a 500G hd with a bunch of partitions.  What I do is edit my "menu.lst" file and add the other partitions, the trick is to put the correct partitions in  your "menu.lst" file
[06:46] <Peddy> Logomachist, log out, and log in with the new user. Does the problem still occur?
[06:46] <genii> dm-madman: Thats not a constructive answer
[06:46] <dm-madman> administrator__: where wtf is actually wtf device you want to format
[06:46] <dm-madman> genii: is it not?
[06:46] <timothyarnold> mezquitale do you think two different physical hard drives, versus just several partitions, makes this different?
[06:46] <SeaPhor> timothyarnold, do you have internet on that box? the one in question?
[06:47] <timothyarnold> seaphor unfortunately no
[06:47] <genii> dm-madman: Not in it's original form :)
[06:47] <dm-madman> genii: perhaps "man mkfs" would be better?
[06:47] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, hint:  have you see what the "menu.lst" file looks like for ubuntu
[06:47] <administrator__> i have connect it to my usb port so i wanna format it how to do it
[06:47] <genii> dm-madman: "man whatever" is the lazy way.
[06:48] <dm-madman> administrator__: you'd probably like gparted
[06:48] <SeaPhor> timothyarnold, what can you boot to?
[06:48] <timothyarnold> mezquitale yep, I'm looking at it right now. title, uuid, kernel, root=uuid=[a UUID], initrd. I think I've found all these things for the Fedora partition (by looking at the Fedora menu.lst) and added it below the Ubuntu pieces
[06:48] <n8tuser> administrator__ -> fdisk /dev/sdc
[06:48] <dm-madman> genii: it's more helpful than doing it for them, though
[06:48] <zebaztian> mezquitale, sebastian@jaunty:~/Desktop$ lame Track 1.wav  Could not find "Track"
[06:48] <genii> dm-madman: Sometimes.
[06:48] <timothyarnold> mezquitale and that indeed gives me a Fedora option when I reboot in Grub. But then when I boot it gives me this UUID error. Could the UUID from the Fedora menu.lst be different from the UUID that it should be?
[06:48] <timothyarnold> seaphor: i can boot to ubuntu but not my previous distro on a different physical hard drive
[06:48] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, dont look at the UUID in the menu.lst in the fedora partition, boot into ubuntu and get the UUID from ubuntu
[06:48] <rww> zebaztian: put a \ before the space, so "lame Track\ 1.wav"
[06:49] <timothyarnold> mezquitale: okay --- does this come from blkid?
[06:49] <Logomachist> Peddy: When the Users and Groups window appears, it is all the way in the upper left hand corner of the screen, and without a title or menu bar. "Add user" is grayed out. Maybe this is because I am logged in under failsafe mode?
[06:49] <dm-madman> timothyarnold: blkid just prints the uuid for the device node
[06:49] <borreguito> my ADD PRINTER  option are disabled.... help me!!!
[06:49] <administrator__> where i should mention my pen drive's name
[06:49] <mezquitale> zebaztian, try putting quotes around your file name as in "Track 1. wav"
[06:50] <Peddy> Logomachist, you might need to click 'unlock' first. But, to get the title and menu bars back, could you open a gnome-terminal?
[06:50] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, you seemed to have solved the problem yourself, try it and see what happens
[06:50] <medstudent> IdleOne, SeaPhor, mezquitale: great success. 9.04 booted beautifully.
[06:51] <Logomachist> Peddy: Unlock is disabled too. Terminal opened.
[06:51] <SeaPhor> medstudent, great news
[06:51] <administrator__> what is the command to format a flash drive on ubuntu 9
[06:51] <glicks> excuse me, how come i dont see the settings i click in compiz configurator
[06:51] <glicks> do i have to restart x before they take effect?
[06:51] <dm-madman> administrator__: try gparted, i think that's "the ubuntu way"
[06:51] <mezquitale> medstudent, so your machine like jaunty then??? Jaunty makes my desktop cry a river!!!!!!!!!!
[06:51] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - it's probably failsafe mode. Ignore that for now. Type gtk-window-decorator --replace in the terminal.
[06:52] <medstudent> SeaPhor: so to get "up and running" per se in Ubuntu, I need to get Flash, mp3 and DVD codecs, right?
[06:52] <wadmurr> glicks, make sure compiz is enabled in System>preferences>appearance
[06:52] <wizzo50> \join #<unity-coders>
[06:52] <glicks> it is enabled wadmurr
[06:52] <ikey> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 && sudo mkfs.ext2 /dev/sdb1    << Replace sdb1 with your ACTUAL device name
[06:52] <medstudent> mezquitale: works like a charm so far
[06:52] <wadmurr> glicks, "Normal" or "Extra" set?
[06:52] <medstudent> but it's only been up and running for 90 seconds
[06:52] <genii> administrator__: First you need to know what the drive is being seen as. Usually it's some name like sdb sdc or so on. Then it needs to have a valid partition so that there is an sdb1 or sdc` or so on which to format. Then you can format it in the way already described by dm-madman
[06:52] <glicks> wadmurr, custom
[06:53] <Logomachist> Peddy: Done.
[06:53] <medstudent> looks gorgeous though. I'm digging the font feathering
[06:53] <administrator__> name is yamuna
[06:53] <mezquitale> medstudent update it your distro "sudo apt-get update"
[06:53] <Peddy> Logomachist, does the terminal say anything? Still no titlebars, right?
[06:53] <medstudent> ok I'll have to leave IRC to do that
[06:53] <wadmurr> glicks, as i change settings in the compizconfig settings manager, they instantly take effect
[06:53] <medstudent> I'll have to switch the ethernet cord to my desktop now
[06:53] <Logomachist> Peddy: Nothing, and right
[06:54] <medstudent> I'll fire up Xchat though once I'm on line
[06:54] <Peddy> Logomachist, try compiz --replace
[06:54] <mezquitale> medstudent, have fun, try installing winblows in this time frame\
[06:54] <timothyarnold> mezquitale: got past the last spot where there was an error, but the progress bar just kind of hangs when it gets all the way to the right hand side of the screen. Is there a way to show what's actually happening during bootup (Fedora) to see where it hangs?
[06:54] <medstudent> mezquitale: seriously
[06:54] <Logomachist> ^c first?
[06:54] <medstudent> mezquitale: and especially with an off-the-shelf Windows version with no drivers. You'd go insane.
[06:55] <Peddy> Logomachist, yes
[06:55] <dm-madman> genii: see i would call that "too helpful".  That's like someone asking for directions, and you just drive their car there for them and take a cab back. :p
[06:55] <mezquitale> medstudent, true that, when you get finish schools i hope you remember it was us computer geeks that helped you with your pc issues
[06:55] <dm-madman> genii: I'm new to this channel, though, so idk...
[06:56] <mezquitale> medstudent, sorry about the grammer im quite drunk :-)
[06:56] <genii> dm-madman: They still have to do the work of finding now their drive designation, partitioning, formatting. So the work is still all theirs to do, now that they know an approach
[06:56] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, i need to see your menu.lst file
[06:57] <_Trinity_> hi all
[06:57] <timothyarnold> mezquitale the whole thing or just the Fedora entry?
[06:57] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, the whole thing
[06:57] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, the whole thing in your unbuntu partition
[06:58] <frogzoo> why is my update bitching that firefox updates are not authenticated?
[06:58] <timothyarnold> mezquitale :okay, give me a minute
[06:58] <dm-madman> genii: do ubuntu users normally have wgetpaste?
[06:58] <_Trinity_> shuld I be worried about having my / 70% full? I only have two paritions
[06:58] <Techtronic> new skype release for Linux 2.1 Beta out >_<
[06:59] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: worry when it says 100% full
[06:59] <_Trinity_> LOL!!
[06:59] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: really weird things happen then
[06:59] <frogzoo> _Trinity_: it will make your next upgrade a nightmare, but in the meantime it's all good
[06:59] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, just a clue for you, i googled your issue and it looks like fedora uses LVM's, let me keep reading
[06:59] <steven__> Should I stick with Gnome-desktop or try Kde?
[06:59] <Logo2> Peddy: This is Logomachist, I'm logging in from the affected computer now.
[06:59] <genii> dm-madman: Not that i know of
[06:59] <Logo2> Peddy: This is the output of compiz --replace - http://privatepaste.com/f90spl5WxD
[07:00] <dm-madman> genii: how unfortunate.  maybe nopaste or some other CLI pastebin program?
[07:00] <genii> dm-madman: For cli pasting, pastebinit usually
[07:00] <_Trinity_> dm-madman: I wonder what filling it? Three desktops?
[07:00] <djbpython> i can't get tcpdump to work, and i suspect its because i am trying to use my wireless interface, any ideas?
[07:00] <Peddy> Logo2, good. Could you paste the output (if any) of 'metacity --replace'?
[07:00] <dibblego> is there a release schedule for 9.04.1 ?
[07:01] <djbpython> using "sudo tcpdump -i wlan0'
[07:01] <djbpython> wlan0 is listed as the logical name using lshw -C network
[07:01] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: there are several ways to determine this
[07:01] <wadmurr> djbpython: are you connected to a network that you're listening to, or are you trying to monitor all wifi traffic?
[07:01] <Logo2> No output for metacity --replace.
[07:01] <medstudent1> mezquitale: ok I'm up and running on Ubuntu
[07:02] <rww> dibblego: point releases are only created for LTSes. 9.04 is not an LTS, so there won't be a 9.04.1.
[07:02] <medstudent1> it seems that XChat doesn't come installed by default
[07:02] <dm-madman> genii: so pastebinit can be piped output or used like 'pastebinit /the/file' i asuume?
[07:02] <wizzo50> timothyarnold: On that Fedora, when you acidently tell it TV mode and you haven't got that hooked up yet to your computer, TV that is, and your screen just turns to a blank screen, even when you reboot the computer every time, How do you correct that so you can get your computer screen back up so you can see things on it until your actually ready to use the TV mode in Fedora?
[07:02] <SpacePigeon> long live communism! down with capitalism!
[07:02] <genii> dm-madman: Yup
[07:02] <mezquitale> steven__, it all depends on your hardware, if you want speed stay with gnome, if you have a fast pc and want eye-candy, try KDE
[07:02] <timothyarnold> wizzo50 confused ... what is TV mode?
[07:02] <Peddy> Logo2, this is a bit redundant, but could you do 'gtk-window-decorator --replace' again?
[07:03] <dm-madman> genii: thanks, maybe i can be as helpful as you here now
[07:03] <Hentai> iwhy won't my ati driver install tahts in restricted drivers, I hit activate, it asks for my pwd, then it says downloading, and that dissapears but no green light
[07:03] <madberry> !politics | SpacePigeon
[07:03] <wizzo50> To use a TV monitor instead of your computer monitor
[07:03] <mezquitale> steven__, actually i meant to say if you HAVE a fast pc and want eye candy then try KDE
[07:03] <mezquitale> medstudent, congrats!
[07:03] <Peddy> Logo2, you _do_ use Gnome, right?
[07:03] <steven__> I have Intel Core 2 Duo...that fast?
[07:04] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: you could use 'find' to look for big files, or just find the basic distribution of the usage with something like 'du -sh /*'
[07:04] <wizzo50> timothyarnold: This happened to me and didn't know what to do, so I just reinstalled the Ubuntu over it again.
[07:04] <Berzerker> it's not just processor
[07:04] <Berzerker> but video card, more so
[07:04] <medstudent1> mezquitale: another question: what would be the best way to get Internet Explorer running in Wine?
[07:04] <wadmurr> !politics | wadmurr
[07:04] <Berzerker> medstudent1: whyever would you want to do that
[07:05] <moxie> Hey there guys, Im sure this is going to sound absolutely Noobish, but I just switched to Ubuntu recently, and I feel comfortable with the console, but I can't seem to figure out if there is an Equivical ".bat" file in *nix. I would think there would have to be.
[07:05] <dm-madman> _Trinity_: usually /usr takes a lot, but maybe if you have /home on the root partition that would be the majority
[07:05] <lsemple_> ?
[07:05] <medstudent1> Berzerker: unfortunately when I access the electronic med record system, it's only supported in IE
[07:05] <dibblego> rww, oh, then 9.10 will be a LTS?
[07:05] <medstudent1> why...I have no idea
[07:05] <lsemple_> man you guyz is tripped right out
[07:05] <dm-madman> moxie: shell script
[07:05] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:05] <mezquitale> medstudent, uninstall wine and install firefox
[07:05] <Berzerker> medstudent1: look up the IETab extension for firefox
[07:05] <rww> dibblego: no, 10.04 (or possibly 10.10). LTSes are about every 2 years, and the last one was 8.04.
[07:05] <Logomachist> Peddy: I don't know if you caught my last line, but after I closed the metacity --replace terminal the screen got screwy, windows were overlapping each other and I couldn't read the chat so I rebooted.
[07:06] <dibblego> rww, ok ta
[07:06] <medstudent1> Berzerker: does that work in Linux? I thought that only worked for Windows...I don't think that Linux has the rendering engine installed by default
[07:06] <zaccour> does anyone know how to find the downloads from epiphany browser? i can't seem to find them anywhere
[07:06] <_Trinity_>  I'll look into those
[07:06] <genii> moxie: Most scripts in *nix are done in sh,bash, or similar. The extension when it exists is usually .sh  but normally in the first line of the file is something like #!/path/executable      which tells the os what to use to run the thing
[07:06] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - now that you've rebooted. At GDM, before you log in, go ctrl-alt-F1 and log in there, create a user account with 'sudo adduser'. then try logging in with that account.
[07:07] <dm-madman> moxie: make a file, start it with "#!/bin/sh" or some other interpreter path, set it to be executable (chmod 755 filename) and then run it (./filename)
[07:07] <Berzerker> medstudent1: no idea, you can try it though
[07:07] <Logomachist> Peddy: GDM?
[07:07] <wadmurr> medstudent: is the record system detecting that you're on linux/firefox and telling you no, or is there some plugin or scripting needed by the system?
[07:07] <Peddy> Logomachist, the login screen.
[07:07] <Techtronic> howto reconfigure mysql ?
[07:07] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:07] <SeaPhor> medstudent, is your med stuff suported in IE6 or does it have to be IE7+?
[07:08] <dm-madman> moxie: however, batch files in DOS/Windows have a behavior where they can affect the current environment, and shell scripts, when run, cannot
[07:08] <moxie> Awesome, thanks for the info guys, huge help. And gave me something to google for.
[07:08] <dm-madman> moxie: you can, however make them do that by "sourcing" them (. filename)
[07:08] <medstudent1> SeaPhor: it's supported in IE6
[07:08] <mezquitale> medstudent, that is the only reason i ever boot to redmond, when there's stuff that isn't supported in linux like your plugin for IE
[07:09] <wizzo50> Hi, what program in Ubuntu do I use to use my HP printer and scanner on and to scan the original size?
[07:09] <dm-madman> moxie: you can look at the man page for bash for a HUGE amount of information about the shell language
[07:09] <wadmurr> medstudent: is it an IE plugin, or is the system just telling you 'no' because you're on firefox?
[07:09] <medstudent1> mezquitale: I thought that IE6 was supported in Wine
[07:09] <dm-madman> I printed the bash manual once, it was like a phone book
[07:10] <_Trinity_> dm-madman: It's not /home that's in /. I'll look intose otehr commands. Adn just when I thught I'd not install without extra partitions
[07:10] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, have compiz running now, and my send application to workspace keyboard shourtcuts dont work, :/
[07:10] <CoUrPsE> Any ideas?
[07:10] <seidos> dm-madman: speed reading is a learnable skill
[07:10] <wadmurr> medstudent: why i ask is because if it's sensing that you're on firefox and simply saying "no," you could change firefox's user agent string to that of IE's and trick the sites
[07:10] <SeaPhor> medstudent, for me it wouls be 2 choices,,, 1 run winxp in  vm, or 2 pay the 15$ for crossover and install IE from office 2003 there'
[07:10] <seidos> ubuntu
[07:10] <mezquitale> medstudent, yes but IE uses plugins which might not be supported in linux, what application youre trying to use in IE???
[07:10] <SeaPhor> medstudent, *would
[07:10] <wizzo50> any help here
[07:10] <dm-madman> seidos: never learned that skill, but i did read most of the manual
[07:10] <medstudent1> it doesn't render properly in Firefox
[07:11] <seidos> !ask | wizzo50
[07:11] <wizzo50> what program in Ubuntu do I use to use my HP printer and scanner on and to scan the original size?
[07:11] <spitzi> Sememmon - FYI, retty may also be useful
[07:11] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:11] <CoUrPsE> Ahh, have compiz running now, and my send application to workspace keyboard shourtcuts dont work, :/
[07:11] <spitzi> Thanks all, bye
[07:11] <medstudent1> wadmurr: so I need true IE
[07:11] <CoUrPsE> Any ideas?
[07:11] <seidos> wizzo50: gimp might work
[07:11] <Sememmon> spitzi: cool, ty
[07:12] <Keiffer> Hi! Can you tell me if i can connect with ssh to my machine, with the user X, if on the machine is user Y that's logged in?
[07:12] <Logomachist> Peddy: The new user has panels but it is still gives me that applet error dialog I encountered before.
[07:12] <wadmurr> medstudent: maybe so. but it could still be something detecting you're on firefox and not firing off some javascript or css file
[07:12] <zaccour> any epiphany browser users here at all?
[07:12] <CoUrPsE> Also, i cant drag folders and stuff anymore since installing compiz.
[07:12] <genii> Keiffer: ssh -l Xname ip/name
[07:12] <R3za> bache ha man ye barnameie php neveshte hala mikham ba cron too server ejrash konam ta karesho anjam bede , hala dastooore ejrash ro chi baiad bedam ?
[07:12] <Peddy> Logomachist, does the new user have window titlebars?
[07:12] <wadmurr> medstudent1: maybe have a look at IEs4Linux @   http://www.tatanka.com.br/
[07:13] <rww> Keiffer: you can specify which user to use with "ssh username@server", if that's what you're asking
[07:13] <seidos> wizzo50: nevermind, perhaps something else
[07:13] <CoUrPsE> HELLO ALL, Can you pls respond to my questions?
[07:13] <Keiffer> Ok. Thanks rww and genii
[07:13] <seidos> dm-madman: I am still practicing.  I am trying to get through the bible
[07:13] <mezquitale> where can you post multiple lines???
[07:13] <rww> !helpme | CoUrPsE
[07:13] <Logomachist> Peddy: yes
[07:13] <genii> !paste | mezquitale
[07:13]  * CoUrPsE mutters.
[07:14] <mezquitale> genii, thank you
[07:14] <rww> R3za: which language?
[07:14] <enovativ> hello to all...it seems that samba is automatically set up on my ubuntu box...but how do i access my linux shares from windows ?
[07:14] <seidos> wizzo50: I don't think gimp will work
[07:14] <wizzo50> seidos: Then what?
[07:14] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:14] <CoUrPsE> I cant drag folders and stuff anymore since installing compiz. is ther a fix?
[07:14] <R3za> rww: sorry , wrong channel , its persian language . :D
[07:14] <enovativ> in linux i can do smb://
[07:14] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:14] <enovativ> but i can't see my linux shares in windows
[07:14] <seidos> wizzo50: have you tried xsane?
[07:14] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK - if you don't mind losing your wallpaper, theme and panel configuration (all personal data and firefox prefs will be retained), there is a quick fix for your user account. Otherwise, we could try finding the exact problem. Your choice.
[07:15] <ziroday> enovativ: samba isn't setup by default but for windows in explorer it usually is //ip.address.of.server/sharename. However that changes from version to version of windows
[07:15] <medstudent> mezquitale: quick question: how do I enable the extra repositories. Things like Deluge and XChat don't show up when I search
[07:15] <wizzo50> seidos: No. I just want to make a copy of a letter I have
[07:15] <wizzo50> Before I mail it
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:15] <timothyarnold> mezquitale sorry, again lost internet
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste |  timothyarnold
[07:15] <mezquitale> paste
[07:15] <FloodBot1> mezquitale: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:15] <mezquitale> timothy arnold
[07:15] <Hentai> ziroday, \\ip\share
[07:15] <mezquitale> youre flooding
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste
[07:15] <mezquitale> !paste | timothyarnold
[07:15] <enovativ> ziroday: how do i share my folders in ubuntu ?
[07:16] <rww> ...
[07:16] <ziroday> enovativ: woops, Hentai is right, its \\ip\share
[07:16] <genii> mezquitale: The bot won't spit out the same answer if the requests are too close together in time
[07:16] <seidos> wizzo50: the scanner I have has a memory card, so I've never set up a connection to it via usb
[07:16] <R3za> rww: ok , do you know how can i run php file with cron , i mean what is the command ?
[07:16] <timothyarnold> i am flooding right now?
[07:16] <seidos> wizzo50: and it's currently in the garage
[07:16] <rww> mezquitale: I think now might be about the right time for you to go take a break and get the alcohol out of your system.
[07:16] <CoUrPsE> How can i get my minimize, maximize and close programs back on my windows?
[07:16] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, you didnt lose internet access, you got booted because you were flooding the chat
[07:16] <wadmurr> medstudent: System>Administration>Software Sources
[07:16] <ziroday> enovativ: you can write click on a file and select sharing options. That's normally simplest way. Also see !samba
[07:16] <timothyarnold> mezquitale hmm did not intend to... sorry
[07:16] <seidos> wizzo50: but xsane sounds like your best bet, or search the forums for your particular scanner model
[07:16] <seidos> !forums
[07:16] <wizzo50> I already have a scanner & printer HP Photosmart C4640 which I just got before I made all my computer Ubuntu
[07:16] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: what did you do to make them disappear?
[07:17] <timothyarnold> mezquitale I didn't think I pasted anything large into the chat room
[07:17] <mezquitale> rww, thank you kindly for your request but the alcohol is exactly where it's supposed to be but I glady accept your invitation for a break, thank you
[07:17] <zaccour> where do my epiphany downloads go? i can't find them anywhere
[07:17] <wizzo50> seidos: It also has memory card slots too on it
[07:17] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay! here is my menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/269575/ terribly sorry for flooding
[07:17] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, afaik, nothing, i enabled compiz, and not theres a few things i cant do, eg, i had F5-F9 as sent application to workspace, and thye dont work either.
[07:17] <enovativ> i right click on \home\username and saw nothing
[07:18] <enovativ> i right click in linux on \home\username and saw nothing
[07:18] <wizzo50> seidos: So, you say use, XSane
[07:18] <medstudent> wadmurr: thank you. so I just check all those sources? any others I need? I can't check to make sure those work b/c update manager is running at the moment
[07:18] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: do you see the title bars/window decorations?
[07:18] <Logomachist> Peddy: How long do you expect the slow fix would take?
[07:18] <st01k> hey guys, none of my media players witll play .avi or .mov anymore.... i added codecs to be able to play .wmv and since then i can't play the other formats.  can anyone help?  (i've tried to play with mplayer, movie player, and vlc)  ver: ubuntu 8.10 intrepid
[07:18] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Yay, yes, just enabled it, and i got menus and stuffs.
[07:18] <Keiffer> Anyone here uses LUKS / encryption for home/swap/temp/etc?
[07:19] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Thanks, can you also help me with the send to workspace cmd?
[07:19] <zaccour> where are epiphany downloads saved? i can't find them
[07:19] <wadmurr> medstudent: that should do. close it, update sources. and then find your packages in synaptic
[07:19] <wizzo50> seidos: I clicked on it and it scanned for devices and came up saying No devices available.
[07:19] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: sure! You'll probably want to install compizconfig-settings-manager which is where you configure all of the compiz stuffs
[07:19] <dm-madman> how many GB is a full ubuntu mirror
[07:19] <seidos> wizzo50: do you have a memory card slot on your computer?
[07:19] <CoUrPsE> Yes, i have that, amd lookng at 'all' now.
[07:20] <wadmurr> how many mirrors is a full ubuntu GB
[07:20] <wizzo50> seidos: No, not on the computer itself, the printer I do.
[07:20] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Yes, i have that, amd lookng at 'all' now.
[07:20] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, this might be of help: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/112118-dual-boot-fedora-8-ubuntu-desktop-version.html , the hint is fedora uses lvm so you have to translate that into unbuntu'ese, i have to go now because the respectable public thinks i have consumed a drink too many, good night!
[07:20] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: yep, I'm trying to find the option myself, there's quite a few :)
[07:20] <wizzo50> seidos: Unless I hook a USB port to one.
[07:21] <Peddy> Logomachist, I don't really have a high level of expertise, so it could take a long time, or might not happen at all. However, if we try the quick-fix, it's reversible and we'll be able to see if it actually fixes your problem (it should)
[07:21] <timothyarnold> mezquitale thanks for your help
[07:21] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, oh aight, sorry, didnt know if ya seen the msg, i see there is lots of options, :/
[07:21] <mezquitale> no problem
[07:21] <seidos> wizzo50: that might be the easiest way to do it.  I can search the forums for you if you give me your printer make and model
[07:21] <steven__> Anyone know if Screem is any good?
[07:21] <wizzo50> seidos: Which would be the same as the HP Printer to the computer
[07:21] <zaccour> where are epiphany downloads saved? i can't find them
[07:22] <dm-madman> I'm rsyncing this us.archive.ubuntu.com and i'm rather curious how big the directory is going to get
[07:22] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: from the looks of it you'll want to enable the "Put" plugin and then configure a binding for "Put to arbitrary viewport"
[07:22] <wizzo50> seidos: HP Photosmart C4640
[07:22] <seidos> wizzo50: if when you plug the printer into your computer, if it mounts the memory card as a drive in ubuntu, then yes, you are right
[07:22] <ziroday> dm-madman: quite large
[07:22] <zaccour> brb gotta poop
[07:22] <rww> zaccour: by default, they're not, due to a bug in epiphany. You need to go to Edit > Preferences and set a download location.
[07:22] <Lint01> dm-madman: ~50 GB
[07:22] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, still there??
[07:22] <dm-madman> oh, that's not so bad
[07:22] <timothyarnold> mezquitale yep
[07:23] <seidos> wizzo50: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:23] <wizzo50> seidos: That I don't know if it does, if it mounts the memory card as a drive in Ubuntu. How do you find that out?
[07:23] <xsquared> hi there. Can someone point me in the direction of some good reading material for deploying workstations in a commercial situation? LDAP / Remote mounted /home directories etc
[07:23] <seidos> !ver
[07:23] <wizzo50> seidos: 9.10
[07:23] <seidos> !version
[07:23] <Logomachist> I'm worried that the problem would reoccur if we don't fix the underlying cause; but since you're not sure the slow fix would even work we might as well do the quick fix if that's going to fix it at least for awhile. But first, is there any way I could preserve my Main menu?
[07:23] <kermit> dm-madman: 668201353515 bytes, plus filesystem overhead.
[07:24] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, the answer is simple, in ubuntu in order to boot up every bootable section has  these lines:  "title" "uuid" "kernel" "initrd"
[07:24] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay
[07:24] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Awesome, do you know a way of not going to the desktop with it?
[07:24] <wizzo50> !version
[07:24] <mezquitale> if you look at your fedora section in your menu.lst, it's telling ubuntu to boot up from the first partition in your first hard drive which is false
[07:24] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: sorry I don't quite follow. Could you rephrase that?
[07:25] <dm-madman> kermit: did i read that right?  just under 700GB?
[07:25] <seidos> wizzo50: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1123635&highlight=HP+Photosmart+C4640
[07:25] <kermit> dm-madman: according to my math.. unless things are listed multiple times in the ls-lR.gz
[07:25] <kermit> dm-madman: i just totaled up the 5th column in that file
[07:25] <timothyarnold> mezquitale you mean the root (hd0,0) ?
[07:25] <CoUrPsE> I set it up using F5-8 like i use to have it, but when i send something to workspace 2 (F6), my ubuntu goes to workspace as well.
[07:26] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, instead boot up into ubuntu and look for the UUID of the bootable partition in your fedora distro, remember fedora uses LVM, then  place the correct parameters in the "menu.lst"  in your ubuntu partition
[07:26] <seidos> wizzo50: if you can't scan to memory card, then just pull the .jpg from the card
[07:26] <seidos> wizzo50: then try this program HPLIP
[07:26] <CoUrPsE> Also, When i take focus away from Xchat, when put enabled, and then put focus back, i cant see my typing.
[07:26] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, exactly( Hd0,0)
[07:26] <dm-madman> kermit: okay, so i'll just cancel that i guess...
[07:27] <timothyarnold> mezquitale i thought that *was* where the fedora boot partition was
[07:27] <dm-madman> kermit: and come up with an alternate plan
[07:27] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: ah not sure about that sorry, #compiz might have answers however
[07:27] <seidos> wizzo50: plug the printer into your computer, and check your gnome desktop
[07:27] <Peddy> Logomachist, by Main Menu, do you mean the gnome-panel Applications dialog? or what?
[07:27] <Logomachist> Yeah, that's what I meant.
[07:27] <timothyarnold> mezquitale i get that from /boot/grub/device.map on the ubuntu disk
[07:27] <seidos> wizzo50: I think mount will also list drives that are mounted, but the chances of this are slim.  you will probably have to try using HPLIP
[07:27] <rjb1> which is the standard-prefix for lua?
[07:27] <DesertEagle> hello all
[07:27] <timothyarnold> mezquitale it says (hd0) /dev/sda (the physical drive where fedora is) and (hd1) /dev/sdb (the physical drive where ubuntu is)
[07:28] <wizzo50> seidos: When I plug the memory card in the printer, a box appears called F-Spot, but I'll do what you say up above, just give me a little time. I am slow at learning these things Sorry!
[07:28] <seidos> wizzo50: I have a sd card reader on my laptop
[07:28] <DesertEagle> i removed the linux-headers package on my system and installed a previous one (compatibility issues) but when i rebooted, it says it's still using the kernel i dont want. How do i fix that?
[07:28] <shachaf> Hum. Assuming I want to be able to help someone with command-line-related things remotely -- a shared screen session would be approximately what I'm after -- would there be a simple way for them to set that up? Assume there are NATs involved and all that.
[07:28] <wizzo50> seidos: There printer is already plugged in
[07:28] <timothyarnold> mezquitale do i need that root (hd0,0) line at all in menu.lst?
[07:28] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, dont use (hd0, 0) use the same as the other entries in the "menu.lst" file, pput the "uuid" and then "kernel" and then "initrd"
[07:29] <shachaf> (I've managed to set it up on my own computer with SSH tunneling and creating a specialized user and various flags and so on, but that's rather complex.)
[07:29] <seidos> wizzo50: can you browse the contents of the memory card from ubuntu?
[07:29] <zaccour> rww, i tried that, didn't work
[07:29] <timothyarnold> mezquitale so replace that line with uuid=[the UUID]?
[07:30] <mezquitale> timothyarnold, also uses google, fedora uses lvm and I don't even know what UUID youre supposed to use in ubuntu so I suggest you goggle it, now you know what the issue is
[07:30] <timothyarnold> mezquitale okay, thanks for your help
[07:30] <mezquitale> no problem, good night
[07:30] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Aight, thanks m8.
[07:30] <ziroday> CoUrPsE: have fun!
[07:30] <CoUrPsE> heh, thanks.
[07:31] <dm-madman> mezquitale: are you a drive shifter?  you are in love with this UUID mount option, but it seems only particularly useful for portable storage devices to me.
[07:31] <seidos> wizzo50: does your photosmart c4480 allow you to scan to memory card without being plugged in?
[07:31] <DesertEagle> i removed the linux-headers package on my system and installed a previous one (compatibility issues) but when i rebooted, it says it's still using the kernel i dont want. How do i fix that?
[07:31] <Peddy> Logomachist, I don't know if there's a way to do that. Like I said, it's reversible though - if it's too harsh, you can just go back. Also, it'd make things easier for me if you said my name when you talk to me; lets me see when you reply.
[07:32] <Logomachist> Peddy: Sorry, I keep forgetting. ... OK, let's go with the solution that we know will work.
[07:32] <wizzo50> seidos: I am following them instructions on the downloading and setting up the HPLIP
[07:32] <BeardedAdmin> I can't stand UUID for identifying disks, it looks awful, requires extra steps, and doesn't do anything that udev rule can't
[07:33] <kermit> and it breaks hibernate if you reformat your swap partition
[07:33] <seidos> wizzo50: ubuntu :)
[07:33] <BeardedAdmin> and it causes no end's of pain if trying to setup RAID arrays!
[07:33] <wizzo50> seidos: right
[07:34] <wizzo50> seidos: hold on
[07:34] <Peddy> Logomachist, I think I may have found a way to save the menu, but first
[07:34] <zaccour> is kde updated by ubuntu community?
[07:34] <dm-madman> BeardedAdmin: makes your fstab look like an exercise in data encryption
[07:34] <CoUrPsE> ziroday, Just seen a option to 'unfocus window', This stops going to the desktop with the application.
[07:35] <zaccour> does anyone know?...........
[07:35] <Peddy> Logomachist, OK. Open up your home directory, ctrl-h, and rename .gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private .gconf .gconfd .config by addind a '.old' to the end.
[07:35] <BeardedAdmin> dm-madman: Yup. A major step backwards if you ask me
[07:35] <wizzo50> seidos: I am not sure what they mean on C. of Step 2: Install Dependency Packages
[07:35] <ziroday> CoUrPsE, awesome
[07:35] <Peddy> adding*
[07:35] <SnakDoc> zaccour far as i know kde keeps kde updated
[07:35] <zaccour> SnakDoc, how is that possible?
[07:35] <SnakDoc> zaccour now i but not sure who keeps repos up
[07:35] <zaccour> SnakDoc, i mean who?
[07:36] <dm-madman> BeardedAdmin: LABELs can be nice, though
[07:36] <rww> zaccour: the Kubuntu people periodically put up notifications of backports of new versions of KDE at http://www.kubuntu.org/
[07:36] <zaccour> rww, is it updated with regular updates like in gnome?
[07:36] <wadmurr> zaccour: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE#Organization
[07:37] <rww> zaccour: Ubuntu doesn't update to new major versions of GNOME after release.
[07:37] <seidos> wizzo50: I don't see "Dependency Packages"
[07:37] <wizzo50> seidos: I am not sure what they mean on C. of Step 2: Install Dependency Packages
[07:37] <zaccour> rww i meant are updates done the same way?
[07:37] <seidos> wizzo50: 2 for me says "Restart Ubuntu"
[07:37] <wizzo50> seidos: On Step 2 it is asking it
[07:37] <rww> zaccour: Kubuntu with backports is broadly similar to Ubuntu with backports, I guess.
[07:38] <seidos> wizzo50: can you copy and paste the step to me?
[07:38] <wizzo50> seidos: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/ubuntu.html
[07:38] <glicks> excuse me, how can i adjust the speed at which my panels hide
[07:38] <birink_cantex> #karo
[07:39] <zebaztian> what was the command necessary to open /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules ?
[07:39] <zebaztian> gkdesu gedit?
[07:39] <seidos> wizzo50: double check your version of Ubuntu.  If you are running Heron (8.04) or Ibex (8.10) you will need to do the 2nd step under c by copying and pasting into a terminal
[07:39] <fez> gksudo I assume you mean
[07:39] <fez> or something
[07:39] <fez> i dunno
[07:39] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm having ridiculous slow speed when writing to an external usb harddisk, its a WD 500GB harddrive with an NTFS partition, I'm copying large files which are 1 GB per file, they start at a transfer rate of 4 MB Per second, and decrease to 12 KB per second, anyone can shed a light to what could be going wrong ?
[07:39] <rww> glicks: Alt-F2, run "gconf-editor", go to /apps/panel/toplevels/[panel ID here], change hide_delay
[07:40] <wizzo50> seidos: Its Ubuntu 9.04
[07:40] <wizzo50>                 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.
[07:40] <wizzo50> 				
[07:41] <seidos> wizzo50: sudo aptitude install --assume-yes libcupsys2 cupsddk cupsddk-drivers libcupsys2-dev cupsys-bsd libcupsimage2-dev libdbus-1-dev build-essential gs-esp openssl libjpeg62-dev libsnmp-dev libtool libusb-dev python-imaging policykit policykit-gnome python-qt4 python-qt4-dbus python-dbus python-gobject python-dev python-notify python python-reportlab libsane libsane-dev sane-utils xsane
[07:41] <seidos> wizzo50: copy and paste that line in your terminal
[07:41] <wizzo50> seidos: Copy all that
[07:41] <wizzo50> ok
[07:41] <seidos> wizzo50: that's what it says to do
[07:42] <abe3k> Hello guys, I'm having ridiculous slow speed when writing to an external usb harddisk, its a WD 500GB harddrive with an NTFS partition, I'm copying large files which are 1 GB per file, they start at a transfer rate of 4 MB Per second, and decrease to 12 KB per second, anyone can shed a light to what could be going wrong ?
[07:42] <wizzo50> seidos: I am just afraid I am going to do the wrong thing and screw the computer up
[07:42] <seidos> abe3k: are you copying the files in a terminal?
[07:42] <glicks> rww, do i have to restart gnome then?
[07:42] <seidos> wizzo50: running aptitude install shouldn't cause a problem
[07:43] <CoUrPsE> Can i get comp specs on desktop wallpaper sorta thing?
[07:43] <abe3k> seidos : I tried both terminal and nautilus, they both start fast then decrease to very low speeds
[07:43] <Logomachist> Peddy: I can't seem to rename them from within the new account I just created.
[07:43] <rww> glicks: no, it should apply instantly.
[07:43] <Blizzerand> hey CoUrPsE
[07:43] <wizzo50> seidos: ok, you know that but I am just new at all this within the last few months and still learning
[07:43] <t393r> #karo
[07:43] <CoUrPsE> Hi.
[07:43] <Peddy> Logomachist, right - open a terminal and type 'su username'
[07:44] <seidos> wizzo50: take your time
[07:44] <wizzo50> seidos: oK, it finished
[07:44] <Peddy> then move the files using the 'mv' command. like 'mv .gnome .gnome.old'
[07:44] <wizzo50> seidos: now what?
[07:44] <CoUrPsE> All this GUI stuff is harder than tty*
[07:44] <Peddy> Logomachist, then rename the files using the 'mv' command, like 'mv .gnome .gnome.old'
[07:44] <seidos> wizzo50: what is the next step?
[07:44] <wizzo50> seidos: was that just step 2
[07:45] <seidos> wizzo50: step 3:  Download HPLIP
[07:45] <wizzo50> ok
[07:45] <zebaztian> when i open 60-persistent-storage.rules it's blank
[07:45] <zebaztian> can someone help me figure out why this is
[07:45] <seidos> wizzo50: just take your time and do each step.  it should work
[07:45] <seidos> abe3k: what kind of external usb drive is it?
[07:46] <abe3k> seidos : WD 500 GB
[07:46] <domino14> wtf? ubuntu just updated my firefox and now it wont open
[07:46] <Peddy> Logomachist, FYI, .gnome .gnome2 house configuration files.
[07:46] <domino14> i click firefox and it says starting firefox and it just quits!
[07:46] <glicks> does alltray not work in compiz
[07:46] <zaccour> i want to install kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop. can i do both at the same time in synaptic or do i have to do one at a time?
[07:46] <timothyarnold> question: could a boot hang indefinitely if a mount from fstab isn't able to happen?
[07:47] <seidos> abe3k: I searched the forums for wd 500 gb performance and found this link:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150108&highlight=wd+500gb+external+usb+performance
[07:47] <wizzo50> seidos: Ok, it downloaded it to my Desktop
[07:47] <Peddy> Logomachist, after that, log out and log into your other account. .gnome etc will be recreated using the Ubuntu default. You probably want to put the some of the subdirectories from your .config.old in the newly created one, if they pertain to programs you are certain don't affect GNOME (ie, torrent client prefs). Then, you can systematically restore your old .gnome files using this method, logging out and in each time, until it breaks agai
[07:47] <Peddy> n. Then you'll see what caused it. Once you found the offending folder, just delete it, and restore all your other configuration folders (it's probably just 1 file that caused the problem).
[07:48] <wizzo50> seidos: It says to enter this command: tar xvfz hplip-3.9.8.tar.gz
[07:48] <wizzo50> seidos: Where at?
[07:48] <timothyarnold> my booting of Fedora is hanging without any error messages and I'm not sure why. Does someone know how to make things more verbose to tell me what's going on?
[07:48] <rjb1> i couldn't find XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext what does it means?
[07:49] <domino14> ubuntu updated my firefox and now it wont start
[07:49] <domino14> god damn it
[07:49] <zaccour> i want to install kubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop. can i do both at the same time in synaptic or do i have to do one at a time?
[07:50] <seidos> wizzo50: go to a terminal.  you want to go to the directory the file is in.
[07:50] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Its better to do one at a time
[07:50] <seidos> wizzo50: and copy and paste the tar command in the terminal
[07:50] <wizzo50> I did
[07:50] <zaccour> Blizzerand, whats the command to remove everything ubuntu-desktop?
[07:51] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : First install kubuntu
[07:51] <zaccour> Blizzerand, ok then what?
[07:51] <joe__> --2009-09-11 23:54:05--  http://www.google.com/search?q=google
[07:51] <joe__> Resolving www.google.com... 208.67.219.230, 208.67.219.231
[07:51] <joe__> Connecting to www.google.com|208.67.219.230|:80... connected.
[07:51] <FloodBot1> joe__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:52] <rjb1> i couldn't find XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext what does it means?
[07:52] <zafron> domino13: check that you are not running moe than 1 instance of firewall....
[07:52] <Logomachist> Peddy: I logged back in to my original account but there's no change.
[07:52] <zebaztian> i'm tryign to paste a file on etc/udev/rules.d but it won't let me do it, i am doing it on the gui
[07:52] <Linux-idiot> I have a noob question, I am going to: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/et/linux/  to grab ET and the source pops up, should I just save file as and run it in terminal or...  I'm pretty tired, Ive been on here for about
[07:52] <zebaztian> how can i sudo on this?
[07:52] <Linux-idiot> 14 hours
[07:52] <Peddy> Logomachist, is the old wallpaper gone?
[07:52] <wizzo50> seidos: file:///home/wizzo50/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[07:52] <Blizzerand_> zaccour :Are you sure you want to remove very single component of gnome
[07:53] <Logomachist> Same default wallpaper. I never customized it.
[07:53] <zaccour> Blizzerand, yes
[07:53] <Linux-idiot> how do you get rid of the system beep?
[07:53] <wizzo50> seidos: I acidently closed the wrong thing but took a screenshot of it, with what it said
[07:53] <dserban_> so when I hit ctrl-alt-f1, I get a black screen, any reason known why?
[07:53] <MeXTuX> I have succesfully mounted a NFS export on Windows XP. I'm working on a file server project for a customer. My question is: Do I have to create a system user for every user that is going to work on the server files??? (don't speak english quite well)
[07:54] <seidos> wizzo50: that file isn't on the Internet.  you would have to upload it somewhere.  facebook?
[07:54] <seidos> what does everyone else use for posting screenshots?
[07:54] <wizzo50> yea
[07:54] <seidos> !screenshot
[07:54] <Logomachist> Peddy: Same default wallpaper. I never customized it.
[07:54] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Here is the link , but , the first command  from the terminal (To remove every gnome app)  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:54] <seidos> !screenshot | wizzo50
[07:54] <zaccour> Blizzerand, thanks
[07:54]  * seidos loves ubottu 
[07:55] <wizzo50> seidos: I have never uploaded on facebook and am not sure how to do it there
[07:55] <zebaztian> help, i want to open /etc/udev/rules.d with privileges on the gui from the terminal, what do i have to type?
[07:55] <Peddy> Logomachist, hmm. bizarre. You're completely sure you renamed .gnome .gnome2 and every other file I said?
[07:55] <Blizzerand_> zaccour ; but its not at all recommended though , you could run both you know
[07:55] <rjb1> what does it means configure: error: Could not find XdbeQueryExtension in -lXext?
[07:55] <seidos> wizzo50: ubbotu says http://tinyurl.com/imagebin
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[07:56] <Logomachist> There was no .gnome - I deleted it earlier in my attempts to fix the problems as per directions I found on the web. The rest of the files I renamed as you instructed.
[07:56] <dm-madman> joe__: wtf was that
[07:56] <seidos> !flooding | joe__
[07:56] <Aviram> hey
[07:56] <hossam> hello i installed compiz-fusion, then removed it with apt-get remove --purge now i cannot get ubuntus default "Visual Effects - Extra" to work
[07:56] <Aviram> I got my hdmi working
[07:56] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : first make it executable . to do so sudo chmod 777 /etc/udev/rules.d . Then you can use it without the help of the terminal if thats what you meant
[07:57] <seidos> Aviram: cool
[07:57] <Peddy> Logomachist, you said you haven't customised this login. How long have you had it for?
[07:57] <dm-madman> seidos: that wasn't even a flood, was it?  it looked like a malfunction of some sort
[07:57] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63565
[07:57] <hossam> what should i reinstalled to fix ubuntus "Visual Effects - Extra" feature
[07:57] <Aviram> and my sound, but I wonder which program is good for playing HD?
[07:57] <Aviram> I tried VLC, was bit choppy on the big screen
[07:57] <Logomachist> A couple months. Maybe 3. Not too long.
[07:57] <wizzo50> seidos: Did you get it
[07:57] <Aviram> oh and I wonder how can I make the HDMI output pass to the TV sound also?
[07:58] <seidos> wizzo50: clicking on it now
[07:58] <zebaztian> Blizzerand, can you explain a little bit more specifically, i am not used to operating on the shell
[07:58] <Logomachist> I customized the applications menu to make it look like the one I had in WinXP, that's about it.
[07:58] <Aviram> anyone? D:
[07:58] <Logomachist> Peddy: I customized the applications menu to make it look like the one I had in WinXP, that's about it.
[07:58] <brutus> hey, how to give global key bindings to rhythmbox?
[07:58] <hossam> Aviram: what hdmi port are you using, motherboard or other?
[07:58] <Linux-idiot> when I run rmmod pcspkr it says operation not permitted....  Can I get some help here?
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[07:58] <seidos> wizzo50: black on white, interesting choice of colors.  hmmm, let me see
[07:58] <Aviram> I think of my graphic card, hossam, I have a laptop, dv6
[07:58] <Aviram> It came with it.
[07:59] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : I think i m confused , you want to edit /etc/udev/rules.d without using the terminal right !!
[07:59] <seidos> joe__: it makes no sense to me :(
[07:59] <Linux-idiot> when I run rmmod pcspkr it says operation not permitted....  Can I get some help here?
[07:59] <hossam> Aviram: oh ok, i recently installed a sound card (asus xonar hdav1.3) which is currently not supported for hdmi audio out
[07:59] <Aviram> anyone knows a good proggy to run HD movies?
[07:59] <brutus> Aviram, vlc
[07:59] <CoUrPsE> brutus, Setting these in System/preferences/keyboard shoutcuts should work.
[07:59] <Aviram> Brutus, VLC is a bit choppy in the LCD
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[08:00] <hossam> what should i reinstall to fix ubuntus "Visual Effects - Extra" feature i broke it with compiz-fusion
[08:00] <Aviram> no any other better HD Movie watching?
[08:00] <Linux-idiot> when I run rmmod pcspkr it says operation not permitted....  Can I get some help here?
[08:00] <zebaztian> Blizzerand, i just did what i wanted to do, i pasted the files
[08:00] <Blizzerand_> Linux-idiot : What ever you are doing use sudo with it
[08:00] <seidos> wizzo50: did you type cd ~/Desktop first?
[08:00]  * dm-madman thinks someone should really kick joe__ 
[08:00] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63567
[08:00] <Aviram> brutus, anyone?
[08:00] <wizzo50> seidos: no
[08:00] <Peddy>  Logomachist, I'm sorry, I've exhausted my knowledge. Perhaps someone with more experience could help you. If you're going to ask, make sure you explain how running gnome-panel makes the panel appear, and how window decoration still doesn't appear. You could always move all your settings (seeing as it doesn't look like it's their problem) and data onto a newly-created user account. Good luck!
[08:00] <Flannel> joe__: Please stop that.  Please use english, ad a normal encoding in this channel.
[08:00] <pravins> can some one guide me
[08:01] <pravins> how can i install lohit fonts in ubuntu?
[08:01] <wizzo50> In the terminal?
[08:01] <seidos> wizzo50: you need to type that first.
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[08:01] <seidos> wizzo50: yes
[08:01] <kermit> why can i never get the screen to power down on any loptop in any version/install of linux?
[08:01] <seidos> !spam
[08:01] <DigitalKiwi> joe__: WHAT
[08:01] <dm-madman> wow, and there's ONE op in here...
[08:01] <Linux-idiot> dude, I should have figured that one out, blizzerand, thanks
[08:01] <brutus> Aviram, HD movies run fine in vlc for me, don't know any better players
[08:01]  * pravins saying something off-topic :(
[08:01] <Aviram> :<
[08:01] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : I don't get your question quite really
[08:02] <Aviram> so maybe it's a hardware issue?
[08:02] <dm-madman> okay, thanks Flannel
[08:02] <zebaztian> Blizzerand, it worked thank you
[08:02] <Logomachist> Peddy: OK... thanks for your help so far.
[08:02] <CoUrPsE> lol.
[08:02] <Peddy> Logomachist, I'm sorry I couldn't help more. Goodnight.
[08:02] <Aviram> What's your hardware? Brutus, I have 4530 ATI HD and T something, 2 gHz
[08:02] <Blizzerand_> zebaztian : Glad you got it , np
[08:02] <Aviram> I think it should run HD fine.. :o
[08:03] <brutus> 2.1 gigs, nvidia 8600
[08:03] <brutus> Aviram,
[08:03] <zebaztian> is there a way to check if my laptop has a bluetooth device?
[08:04] <metellius> I'm running ubuntu off one harddrive, but I want to install it on another harddrive that I just formatted. is it possible to simply start the installer from the cd and do it from there?
[08:04] <Aviram> Brutus?
[08:04] <noshelter> does anybody here have experience with cpufreq-selector? i've underclocked my cpus, but at times it goes at a higher freqs, is that normal?
[08:04] <Blizzerand_> metellius : You could install ubuntu in any hd
[08:04] <wizzo50> seidos: On Step 4, I am not sure which mine is, 32 or 64? What do I type in next?
[08:05] <Doc-Saintly> I just put a radeon 4650 card into my ubuntu box and the hdmi isn't putting out sounds. any ideas? I see a lot of forum posts describing the problem but no fix
[08:05] <wizzo50> seidos: on the ./configure?
[08:05] <seidos> wizzo50: hold on
[08:06] <DanXbix> how do i fix system paths
[08:06] <wizzo50> seidos: It doesn't tell you for version 9.10
[08:06] <Blizzerand_> DanXbix : How do you mean by *fix system path*
[08:07] <Aviram> brutus..?
[08:07] <seidos> wizzo50: try this first, sudo apt-get install hplip
[08:07] <brutus> Aviram, 2.1 gigs, nvidia 8600
[08:08] <noshelter> cd /somethin
[08:08] <noshelter> ups
[08:08] <noshelter> wrong window
[08:08] <joe__> ok
[08:08] <Aviram> hmm
[08:09] <noshelter> so nobody played with cpufreq-selector :-< ... ?
[08:09] <Aviram> maybe I need to install some codecs? or the built-in codecs of VLC are enough?
[08:09] <joe__> G"ļ┬ĮÉxmeŅ@~eGčÓ ī^Į▄ī·╩æÉĢ]Rī	]ļļl┼┬č©bĢų«<{÷©Z×5½¾äą©
[08:09] <joe__> still?
[08:09] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63568
[08:09] <DanXbix> like i have todo this all the time PATH=$PATH:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
[08:09] <joe__> =/
[08:09] <wizzo50> seidos: There is a screenshot above, is that what you wanted?
[08:10] <Flannel> joe__: not anymore
[08:10] <joe__> ?
[08:10] <mostafa_> can anyone give me the link how to mount partitions manually?
[08:10] <DanXbix> i added a cross compiler t
[08:10] <Flannel> joe__: Looks like pidgin is fixed?
[08:10] <joe__> ?
[08:10] <DanXbix> and been playing up since
[08:10] <mostafa_> can anyone give me the link how to mount partitions manually with editing the fstab?
[08:10] <seidos> wizzo50: type hplip
[08:10] <rww> !ntfs | mostafa_
[08:10] <G_A_C> u
[08:11] <rww> !fstab | mostafa_: or maybe this
[08:11] <joe__> ctrl c didnt work and someone told me /exec -o cat /dev/random would fix it, it hasnt and now im sad
[08:11] <mercutio22> hello is it possible to share GPG keys from each entry in the sources.list file?
[08:11] <Munna> helo every us and buntus
[08:11] <mostafa_> rww: thanks dude
[08:11] <seidos> wizzo50: skip to this step, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/hp_setup.html
[08:11] <mercutio22> I mean
[08:11] <mercutio22> between two pcs
[08:12] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63569
[08:12] <mercutio22> I need to list the keys in a file so I can add them at another pc
[08:12] <DanXbix> like i have todo this all the time PATH=$PATH:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
[08:12] <DanXbix> and been playing up since
[08:12] <rww> mercutio22: see "man apt-key". you probably want "apt-key exportall" and "apt-key add <filename you saved output from last command to goes here>"
[08:12] <seidos> wizzo50: sorry dude, I'm kind of tired.  skip to this step http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/hp_setup.html
[08:13] <Blizzerand_> mostafa_ : but you simply could use mount -t command
[08:13] <wizzo50> seidos: What is CUPS or YaST?
[08:13] <seidos> wizzo50: cups is "unix printing system"
[08:13] <wizzo50> seidos: I am too, no problem
[08:13] <seidos> wizzo50: I forget what the c stands for
[08:13] <mostafa_> Blizzerand_: thank you for your info ;)
[08:13] <jmarsden> !cups
[08:13] <seidos> I should go to sleep soon
[08:14] <racha> Gnea: u are here :) ?
[08:14] <mostafa_> rww: what is the difference between ntfs and ntfs-3g?
[08:15] <wizzo50> seidos: I got to get up for the #1 Nebraska CORNHUSKER state football game at 1:00
[08:15] <Munna> i have a quick question will real vnc cope with x11vnc because im using realvnc on a windows computer and im using x11vnc on an african ubuntu computer now i wanted to know if i typed : vncviewer <HOSTNAME>:5920 will it connect and will i be able to controll the windows computer. i realy need this so that i can be trained for the practice of P.C.O (Penitration of Computers Organisation)
[08:15] <wizzo50> seidos: But anyway
[08:15] <Blizzerand_> DanXbix : I am not sure about which way of specifying a path  are talking about  ;sorry
[08:15] <seidos> wizzo50: I have to wake up for a day long meditation session at 8am
[08:15] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio, or anything else to get my 5.1 to work ?
[08:16] <rww> mostafa_: ntfs-3g has support for reading and writing ntfs partitions. ntfs can only read from them.
[08:16] <wizzo50> seidos: oh boy
[08:16] <wizzo50> all for you
[08:16] <rww> mostafa_: ntfs has been around forever, ntfs-3g is relatively new (only been stable for a few years)
[08:16] <mostafa_> rww: thanks and what 3g itself?
[08:16] <seidos> wizzo50: thankfully not all for me
[08:17] <mostafa_> rww: thanks and what is 3g itself?
[08:17] <Munna> Does anyone know the answer
[08:17] <wizzo50> seidos: I just wanted to get a letter mailed out tomarrow before I left and need to scan a copy of it for myself
[08:17] <Munna> !wait
[08:17] <hemant_> hello
[08:17] <Munna> oh
[08:17] <wizzo50> seidos: That is why I was wanting to get this scanner setup on here
[08:17] <hemant_> hay what happening
[08:17] <seidos> wizzo50: I'm just doing my best to help a fellow ubuntu dude
[08:17] <hemant_> here
[08:17] <Blizzerand_> !hello |hemant_
[08:18] <hemant_> help  me
[08:18] <hemant_> ubottu pls help me
[08:18] <Blizzerand_> !ask hemant_
[08:18] <wizzo50> seidos: You are. And I appreciate it all. I help others to in with whatever I can.
[08:18] <wizzo50> not just computers
[08:18] <Blizzerand_> !ask |hemant_
[08:18] <racha> !pulseaudio
[08:18] <hemant_> what is dis
[08:18] <hemant_> ???????????/
[08:19] <Blizzerand_> hemant_ : What is your question
[08:19] <rww> mostafa_: no idea. I'd assume it's the third major attempt at writing a driver for ntfs ("3rd generation" = 3g), but am not sure.
[08:19] <hemant_> is dis live chat room
[08:19] <seidos> wizzo50: sudo hp-setup, then you're out of terminal and in a gui
[08:19] <wizzo50> seidos: Is their someone else that can continue so you can go to bed. I don't see sedsedsed on here
[08:19] <mostafa_> rww: very good thank you man ;)
[08:19] <Blizzerand_> hemant_ : Yes can't you see that already
[08:20] <seidos> wizzo50: I'm already in bed :).  go ahead and execute su hpsetup, I'm not sleeping yet
[08:20] <wizzo50> seidos: It went into a HP Device Manager - Setup now
[08:20] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[08:20] <Blizzerand_> racha : What do you need help with
[08:21] <Sassy> hello there. I'm looking to install yahoo! messenger 7
[08:21] <seidos> wizzo50: yes!
[08:21] <Sassy> can someone please help?
[08:21] <Munna> does anyone know the answer to my question?
[08:21] <Munna> :/
[08:21] <zaccour> i'm using kubuntu and use to ubuntu, where is add/remove at?
[08:21] <wizzo50> seidos: Its a usb port
[08:21] <wizzo50> So tha 1st one
[08:21] <Munna> zaccour: use the kickstart
[08:21] <racha> Blizzerand: idk how to set it up to hear something ... and one more thing i need to change some of my ports on Sound card to be like on this picture http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[08:21] <MeXTuX> Which one is the best? NFS or Samba?
[08:22] <Munna> !kubuntu
[08:22] <zaccour> Munna, where is kickstart?
[08:22] <administrator__> how to format pen drive
[08:22] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: use Pidgin instead. it's already there.
[08:22] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : I think its possible only to install an older version or use wine
[08:22] <Blizzerand_> !wine | Sassy
[08:22] <Sassy> I've tried I don't know how to use it... please help
[08:22] <Munna> zaccour:  its the same thing like in gnome applicatins
[08:22] <administrator__> how to format pen drive using g parted
[08:22] <wizzo50> seidos: I clicked on next and no device found
[08:23] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: don't know how to use Pidgin?
[08:23] <zaccour> Munna, i don't see kickstart in applications menu
[08:23] <seidos> wizzo50: is your printer plugged into the usb port and is it turned on?
[08:23] <Sassy> No Ten-Eight....
[08:23] <zaccour> Munna, i found it
[08:23] <zaccour> Munna, thanks
[08:23] <mostafa_> rww: last thing what is "locale=en_US.utf8" in this command "/dev/hda2 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0" for?
[08:23] <Munna> zaccour: its like the windows thing
[08:23] <wizzo50> yes, I returned it off and back on now
[08:23] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Did you try it via wine
[08:23] <administrator__> how to format pen drive using gprarted
[08:24] <administrator__> how to format pen drive using gparted
[08:24] <racha> Blizzerand: can u help me with that or no ?
[08:24] <zaccour> administrator__, format it to fat32
[08:24] <mostafa_> rww: it is an example in your suggested link
[08:24] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: I am assuming that you already have a yahoo account?
[08:24] <Sassy> No Blizzerand... I'm so sorry I'm new to all of this but I have Wine Installed.
[08:24] <wizzo50> it even has red error in the Terminal box
[08:24] <Sassy> I do have a Yahoo Account Ten-Eight
[08:24] <administrator__> what is the command
[08:24] <rww> mostafa_: it sets the locale for file names. If you have files named using some script other than Latin (e.g., Japanese characters, etc.), you'd want to change that, otherwise it should be fine.
[08:24] <oye[N]k> can someone help me..?
[08:25] <wizzo50> seidos:  it even has red error in the Terminal box
[08:25] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: okay then, open up Pidgin and go to Accounts (on the menu bar).
[08:25] <seidos> wizzo50: terminal box?  you mean in hpsetup?
[08:25] <Sassy> Done Ten_Eight
[08:25] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: Select "manage accounts"
[08:25] <oye[N]k> why when i login in my pidgin...after that its closee
[08:26] <mostafa_> rww: then if  I have two file name types just add that
[08:26] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: then click on ADD
[08:26] <administrator__> what is the command
[08:26] <mostafa_> rww: like this
[08:26] <administrator__> to format pen drive
[08:26] <rww> mostafa_: I don't know, to be honest. I've never had to use that option.
[08:26] <Sassy> Yes Ten-Eight
[08:26] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: from there, select your protocol from the drop down list...Yahoo is almost at the bottom.
[08:26] <Sassy> ok Ten-Eight
[08:26] <mostafa_> rww: np dude thanks for your response ;)
[08:26] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: enter your yahoo ID and password
[08:26] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Do as Ten-Eight says or install it via this link http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[08:27] <wizzo50> seidos: http://imagebin.org/63570
[08:27] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: click "Remember password" so you won't have to enter it everytime.
[08:27] <administrator__> what is the command to format pen drive on ubuntu 9
[08:27] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Its quite an old vers though as you can see
[08:27] <wizzo50> seidos: In the Terminal, I sent a screenshot of it
[08:27] <ziroday> administrator__: you can use gparted to do that in a nice graphical way
[08:27] <mercutio22> rww: thanks
[08:28] <administrator__> how its do
[08:28] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: then click the ADD button at the bottom and you should be good to go.
[08:28] <administrator__> how i find gparted
[08:28] <wizzo50> seidos: Then what?
[08:28] <oye[N]k> :(
[08:28] <oye[N]k> why nobody answer
[08:28] <Blizzerand_> administrator__ : try this http://girnartech.blogspot.com/2008/12/how-format-pen-drive-in-ubuntu.html
[08:28] <Sassy> Thanks Ten-Eight.... You're awesome! Thanks so much for your help! and also Blizzerand!!
[08:28] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand is correct, the Linux ver of Yahoo is an old one.
[08:29] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: you are soooo welcome!  Glad to be of service :)
[08:29] <wizzo50> \join #unity-coders
[08:29]  * Blizzerand_ huggles Ten-Eight
[08:29] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[08:29] <seidos> wizzo50: I don't know.
[08:29] <Sassy> I am very grateful for all the help! Keep up the excellent work peeps! :)
[08:29] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_ heh heh...thanks :)
[08:30] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: have fun!
[08:30] <wizzo50> seidos: What time tomarow night will you be on here?
[08:30]  * Blizzerand_ is great fan of empathy but not pidgin
[08:31] <Sassy> What is empathy? Another Chat server?
[08:31] <seidos> wizzo50: I'm on every day.  I'll probably on at around 7 pacific
[08:31] <seidos> *be
[08:31] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: I have not tried Empathy yet. I read it's included in 9.10 instead of Pidgin...is this correct?
[08:31] <jmarsden> !empathy
[08:31] <wizzo50> seidos: Thanks for you help. ok. Talk to you another time on it. Bye
[08:31] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: it's another IM program.....like Pidgin.
[08:31] <wizzo50> seidos: Goodnight
[08:31] <jmarsden> Sassy: empathy is a newer instant messaging client program, not a server
[08:31] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Its something better than pidgin and yes Ten-Eight , its included in 9.10
[08:32] <Sassy> how I get that??
[08:32] <Sassy> lol
[08:32] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[08:32] <Ten-Eight> heheheheh.....dontcha wanna learn Pidgin first? :)
[08:32] <seidos> wizzo50: I hope we can get it working.  good night dude.
[08:32] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : Download it
[08:32] <Logomachist> When I log into Ubuntu I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it.
[08:32] <Sassy> nope.... I think it's not working for me.... It says there is an error...
[08:32] <seidos> is there a difference between su and sudo?
[08:32] <wizzo50> seidos: Thanks!
[08:32] <Logomachist> I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail.
[08:33] <seidos> !su
[08:33] <jmarsden> seidos: Yes there is a difference
[08:33] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: Pidgin not working for you?
[08:33] <Logomachist> So seems my problem is particular to one account but not tied to the user preferences. Any suggestions?
[08:33] <Blizzerand_> Sassy : from terminal --> sudo apt-get install empathy , but I think you'd be better off with pidgin for now
[08:33] <Sassy> No - I get this Error Unknown error number 1013. Logging into the Yahoo! website may fix this.
[08:33] <zaccour> how do i know what version of kubuntu i am using?
[08:33] <seidos> jmarsden: do you think su vs. sudo would keep hp-setup from working right?
[08:33] <jmarsden> zaccour: lsb_release -rd
[08:34] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: what version of Pidgin are you using?
[08:34] <jmarsden> seidos: Pretty unlikely
[08:34] <Dantonic> HI seidos
[08:34] <seidos> hi Dantonic
[08:34] <Sassy> I'm not sure of the version
[08:34] <zaccour> jmarsden, thanks
[08:34] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: mine is the latest. version 2.6.1
[08:34] <Blizzerand_> administrator__ : Did it solve the prob
[08:34] <zaccour> is the array kernel worth installing?
[08:34] <jmarsden> zaccour: No problem.
[08:34] <rww> !empathy is an instant messaging and video chat client for GNOME. In !karmic, Empathy will replace Pidgin as the default IM client.
[08:34] <rww> zaccour: no
[08:34] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: click on HELP in the top right of the Pidgin main window
[08:35] <zaccour> i think gyachi should be the main IM client
[08:35] <zaccour> can i install gyachi in kubuntu?
[08:35] <Sassy> Just A sec
[08:35] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Never tried that lol
[08:35] <Sassy> Pidgin 2.5.5
[08:35] <Dantonic> hey seidos, never got that network to fire back up after suspend.  I remember last time before I left for work you had some kind of other suggestion... you said something along the lines of: if I knew it was gonna be this difficult I would have had you do ...something... What where you talking about would you remind me?
[08:35] <Dantonic> seidos,  if you remember
[08:35] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: yeah...you need a later version.
[08:35] <Blizzerand_> zaccour : Is it in ubuntu repos
[08:36] <owen1> i installed something with 'python setup.py install'  how do i uninstall it?
[08:36] <Sassy> how do I get it Ten-Eight
[08:36] <Sassy> ??
[08:36] <jmarsden> Blizzerand_: No, http://array.org/ubuntu/
[08:36] <mostafa_> rww: I wanna write the command that copy the current address to other place what should I do?
[08:36] <zaccour> Blizzerand_, no i had to install it from sourceforge before
[08:36] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: visit the Pidgin website - http://www.pidgin.im
[08:36] <seidos> Dantonic: ohhh yeah.
[08:37] <zaccour> i'm new to kde but so far it looks better than gnome
[08:37] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: download from there.
[08:37] <seidos> Dantonic: what did we talk about?  I don't recall?
[08:37] <rww> mostafa_: I don't know what you mean, can you rephrase?
[08:37] <seidos> oops -?
[08:37] <zaccour> seems a bit slower though
[08:37] <Sassy> Thanks Ten-Eight - You're AWESOME!!!
[08:37] <seidos> I still have to figure out how to check my log in irssi
[08:37] <diogo_79> hi
[08:37] <Dantonic> seidos, cant remember we tried a bunch of things then we never where able to get it to work... I think you asked me to see the "interface" file or something?
[08:37] <mostafa_> rww: I wanna copy a folder contents to other place ok?
[08:38] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: when you go there, you'll get instructions on how to get the latest version. Just follow along and you'll be good.
[08:38] <Blizzerand_> jmarsden : What was that link about
[08:38] <zaccour> how do i unmount my sd card in kde?
[08:38] <seidos> Dantonic: ohhh yeah, ethernet port not working after suspend
[08:38] <seidos> Dantonic: but after restarting it works, right?
[08:38] <rww> mostafa_: "cp -R /path/to/source /path/to/destination"
[08:38] <seidos> Dantonic: do you have a posting on the forums?
[08:38] <diogo_79> anyone knows how to gadmin openvpn client works?i cannot find any tutorial on the web
[08:38] <mostafa_> rww: yeah I know this
[08:38] <Sassy> Thanks Ten_Eight!! More than Thankful!!! Bless!!
[08:38] <jmarsden> "Is it in Ubuntu repos" (regarding the array kernel)
[08:38] <Dantonic> seidos, yes that's right.  I don't have post on forums but I have a bug listed
[08:38] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: your very welcome :)
[08:38] <zaccour> jmarsden, no
[08:39] <mostafa_> rww: I wanna put it in the script
[08:39] <seidos> Dantonic: you may want to list something on the forums too...attack the problem at all angles :).
[08:39] <Blizzerand_> jmarsden : Just for security reasons , sorry
[08:39] <Dantonic> seidos, good Idea, think I'll do that
[08:39] <Sassy> I keep getting a network error
[08:39] <mostafa_> rww: and when ever I run that script it copies the folder cnotent in that current address
[08:39] <mostafa_> rww: got me?
[08:39] <seidos> Dantonic: what is your user name on the forums?
[08:40]  * Blizzerand_ yawns
[08:40] <Ten-Eight> Sassy: you will...the old version you have will not connect to the Yahoo IM server as Yahoo made some changes recently.
[08:40] <seidos> Dantonic: I'm going to bed.  I'm thinkingfrog on the forums.  good luck, good night all
[08:40] <Dantonic> seidos, to be quite frank I've never posted there, so I'll have to create one
[08:40] <Blizzerand_> !yawn
[08:40] <Replop> Hi !
[08:40] <hellues> hey
[08:40] <hellues> i need help
[08:40] <Dantonic> seidos, ok thanks I will talk to you another time!
[08:40] <hellues> !!!
[08:41] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: you gotta stop that...it's catching ;)
[08:41] <hellues> i cant write data to cd k3b,brasero,cdrecord produce an error
[08:41] <Replop> I just burned a Ubuntu  dvd .  what's the nickname of  9.04 ?
[08:41]  * Blizzerand_ hides
[08:41] <hellues> damn it
[08:41] <Blizzerand_> Replop : Jaunty
[08:41] <jmarsden> Replop: Jaunty Jackalope
[08:41] <Replop> thks
[08:41] <Blizzerand_> I call it JJ lol
[08:42] <linuxguy2009> How would I go about running "sudo hdparm -S 3 /dev/sda" which sets my netbook hdd spindown time from 1min default down to 15sec to save battery power? Is there a file I simply add it to and it will run automatically on bootup without asking for a password?
[08:42] <hellues> hwy
[08:42] <ruby_on_tails> i installed pidgin on ubuntu, where can I find its directory ?
[08:42] <hellues> help me pls
[08:43] <hellues> .pidgin
[08:43] <Ten-Eight> ruby: hellues is correct.  look in your home directory for .pidgin
[08:43] <ruby_on_tails> ok
[08:44] <Blizzerand_> hmm these #fedora guys are quite nice
[08:44] <hellues> hye
[08:44] <hellues> pls someone help
[08:44] <Blizzerand_> !ask | hellues
[08:44] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: been a long time since I talked to the fedora guys. been ubuntu for such a long time now.
[08:45] <ruby_on_tails> thanks :)
[08:45] <Ten-Eight> ruby: you're welcome. enjoy.
[08:45] <hellues> i have a problem when i try to writre data to cd or make iso image
[08:45] <Blizzerand_> Ten-Eight : I am much of a Fedora fan . Fedora rocks (no offense)
[08:45] <hellues> brasero, k3b, cdrecord gives an error opt ends with an error
[08:46] <hellues> cd is blank and clean
[08:46] <majnoon> they took out mp3 players (afraid of getting sued)  :(
[08:46] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: none taken...I used to used it full time with FC2,3 and 4.
[08:46] <hellues> i guess ubuntu has a problem in writing cd
[08:47] <Blizzerand_> Ten-Eight : I've been a fan since F6 i think
[08:47] <Ten-Eight> hellues: what are you trying to burn?  music, data or video?
[08:47] <Ten-Eight> Blizzerand_: I've not used FC6.
[08:47] <hellues> data
[08:47] <hellues> rar files
[08:47] <Blizzerand_> Ten-Eight : It was buggy , worst but still I stayed with it
[08:48] <hellues> i try to burn cd with rar files everytime i took an error
[08:48] <hellues> and my cd becoming trash
[08:48] <BellinXFelon> can someone help me install a tar.gz file ive never done it before, i can pastebin the readme for the install
[08:48] <aaron113> here we are barba papa
[08:48] <hellues> because i cant use cd anymore
[08:48] <aaron113> helo pepole
[08:49] <Ten-Eight> hellues: I've used only Brasero.  Don't know why it wouldn't work for you unless the CD blanks are bad or cheap.
[08:49] <hellues> brasero always produce an error
[08:49] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : tar.gz are compressions like that of zip . First uncompress it and tell me what is it off
[08:49] <Ten-Eight> hellues: I have had problems with cheap cd-r's that gave errors and had to toss it.
[08:49] <hellues> Ten-Eight,  wait a second
[08:50] <snooky> hello
[08:50] <Blizzerand_> !hi | snooky
[08:50] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: i have already uncompressed it, i just need to install it
[08:50] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_:I can pastebin the install instructions
[08:50] <shrey> is it necessage to install source code when we r installing from a PPA.
[08:50] <hellues> !hi | ubottu
[08:51] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Please do that , what is it off ,
[08:51] <jmarsden> hellues: If you pastebin the comamnds you are using and the actual error somewhere, so we can see them,  we may be better able to figure out what is happening...
[08:51] <jmarsden> shrey: Not if the PPA has binary packages in it, no.
[08:51] <hellues> okey i do that
[08:51] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_:It is nicotine 1.1.12 the newest version
[08:51] <hellues> but how can i learn capacity of dvd
[08:52] <Blizzerand_> !info nicotine
[08:52] <shrey> jmarden: actully i m upgrading my open office from 3.0 to 3.1 so there are two links one is main and another is souce code. i m only installing main as i dont want my memory space to fill..will it work
[08:53] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : D
[08:53] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Download from the ubuntu repos .  From terminal --> sudo apt-get install nicotine
[08:53] <jmarsden> shrey: You don't nee dsource code unless you want to compile it, and you definitely do not want to try to compile OpenOffice.org yourself :)
[08:53] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: I am locating the install
[08:53] <shrey> jmarsden: thanks...
[08:54] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Its the newest version in ubuntu repos (I think) and it much easier to install it that way
[08:54] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: it says its already the newest version, which isnt true
[08:54] <jmarsden> hellues: cddrecord --atip should get you info on the media (blank CD or DVD) in your drive.
[08:55] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_: We gotta do the tar.gz file
[08:55] <Blizzerand_> BellinXFelon : Sorry dude , but I actually have to leave , ask somebody else here
[08:55] <BellinXFelon> Blizzerand_:ok
[08:55] <jmarsden> BellinXFelon: Then you should learn how to package stuff for Ubuntu, or wait for someone else to package it for you... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[08:55] <Ten-Eight> hellues: OR you just look at the dvd...most say what their capacity is.
[08:55] <snooky> i dont really good speakt english but i need help with truecrypt, how can halp me?
[08:56] <hellues> no
[08:56] <hellues> dont ay anything
[08:56] <hellues> cdrecord --atip i do that
[08:56] <hellues> is sai┼¤d unknown capacity
[08:56] <moonos> hi, i'm using moonos and i want to change font (gtk). how do i do that?
[08:58] <genii> moonos: Maybe ask in #lxde
[08:59] <moonos> but it's running enlightment on 'gtk' libs
[08:59] <moonos> e17 or something
[08:59] <moonos> lxde is a totally different de isn't it?
[08:59] <jmarsden> hellues: Sounds liek it is not recognizing your blank CDs very well...
[08:59] <genii> moonos: moonOS is based on an lxde desktop
[09:00] <moonos> i'm using the new v3, which is totally e17
[09:01] <moonos> 16.999.060
[09:02] <Ten-Eight> hellues: I don't know the command for getting that info. does it not put a little icon of a dvd on the desktop for you when you insert it?
[09:02] <genii> moonos: Since theres no one in #e17 and #moonos doesn't exist, your best bet is still #lxde for answers.
[09:02] <DigitalKiwi> genii: ...
[09:03] <moonos> ok, thanks. dumb question but, how do i get there? i'm new to irc
[09:03] <genii> moonos: /join #lxde
[09:03] <moonos> thanks!
[09:03] <aaron113> does anyone know why my mouse clicks and keybord types dont get through my x11vnc connection? im using jaunty and a person called subcomandante controld mine with his mouse and he had no problem why do i have these problems is there a setting i have to change
[09:03] <genii> DigitalKiwi: ?
[09:03] <aaron113> please pm me thank you! :)
[09:05] <jmarsden> hellues: Does   dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/dvd    get you more info about your DVDs?
[09:06] <aaron113> does anyone know why my x11vnc mouse clicks and keyboed taps isnt getting through?
[09:09] <aaron113> holy crap
[09:09] <aaron113> lot of people goes and comes
[09:09] <pengwyn> yeah
[09:09] <pengwyn> busy distry
[09:09] <pengwyn> distro even
[09:09] <W12345> why can't I find beryl in the repo of Ubuntu?
[09:09] <aaron113> ok can someone tell me how to add a fourm
[09:10] <pengwyn> add a forum in what?
[09:10] <aaron113> ubuntufourms
[09:10] <pengwyn> ask at the url it's on
[09:11] <pengwyn> They may not want it
[09:11] <pengwyn> any help bots in here?
[09:11] <racha> any1 can help me to setup pulseaudio on my 5.1 ?
[09:11] <aaron113> pengwyn: can you help me with my problem
[09:12] <jmarsden> !ubottu | pengwyn
[09:12] <pengwyn> aaron113-  it's a forum, owned by a domain, contact the admin of the forum, or the admin of the domain
[09:12] <metellius> my linux keeps kernelpanicing when I try to format my new harddrive. but whats more scary, is this panicing seems to trigger data loss bugs on my old ext4 installation. first random programs wouldnt run, now X wont run because it complains about missing system files
[09:12] <Artemis3> or ask in the forum :)
[09:13] <metellius> is this the legendary ext4 data loss bug?
[09:13] <aaron113> pengwyn: huh no i meant do you know why my mouse clicks and keybord taps arent getting through my x11vnc connections
[09:13] <Artemis3> metellius, i suspect hardware failure, check memory with memtest
[09:14] <pengwyn> !ubottu help
[09:14] <Guest71965> rabbitshit.
[09:14] <aaron113> pengwyn: can you help me
[09:14] <racha> any1 can help me with pulseaudio ?
[09:14] <aaron113> racha: i can
[09:14] <metellius> Artemis3: how long would you estimate testing 8 gb of ram?
[09:14] <pengwyn> what vnc what mouse, what keyborard what kvm
[09:14] <jmarsden> pengwyn: Don't experiment with a bot in the channel, .msg ubottu whatever and then chat with it/him
[09:15] <aaron113> racha: allmost everyone can
[09:15] <pengwyn> jmarsden-  I tried
[09:15] <racha> aaroll3: i need to get it to work  http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[09:15] <jmarsden> pengwyn: Then try agin or youyr IRC client is broken... works for me :)
[09:15] <pengwyn>  /msg ubottu  thing  nothing
[09:15] <Artemis3> metellius, i'd leave it until all standard tests are done at least twice, just in case...
[09:15] <racha> aaroll3: i need to change uotput Jack's to get my 5.1 to work
[09:16] <pengwyn> sorry jmarsden
[09:16] <aaron113> racha: ? what the hell is that ! :/
[09:16] <aaron113> :-/
[09:17] <metellius> Artemis3: does it say standard tests then?
[09:17] <racha> aaronll3: that is how i need it to get ... i get it to work ... but he have diferent Jack ouputs from my Windows .. now i need to change Outputs Jac's
[09:17] <aaron113> racha: i dx11vncont know any information about hardware
[09:17] <pengwyn> jmar xchat
[09:17] <pengwyn> er ychat
[09:17] <Artemis3> metellius, if you just start memtest, it does all standard tests by itself
[09:17] <racha> aaeon113: Its 113 or ll3 ?:D
[09:17] <metellius> Artemis3: ok, ill do that. thanks
[09:18] <pengwyn> aaron113-  I don't know what's wrong with your X11 vnc connection
[09:18] <aaron113> racha: i dont know information about windows or macs and even hardware
[09:18] <aaron113> 113 stupid internet wont work
[09:18] <aaron113> pengwyn: can we try it?
[09:18] <racha> aaron113: ok anyway i just need to change Jack Outputs because pulseaudop dont use corects
[09:19] <pengwyn> I don't have a VNC setup for the public aaron113  Or i would
[09:19] <racha> aaron113: pulseaudio*
[09:19] <Artemis3> racha, in terminal, do alsamixer -c 0 and try moving these :)
[09:20] <pengwyn> aaron113-  make sure you have rules in your iptables to let it through
[09:20] <jmarsden> racha: This is probably specific to whatever make and model of audio card (or on-motherboard audip chip) you have.
[09:20] <pengwyn> aaron113- check your keyboard, and mouse are actually working.
[09:20] <racha> Artemis3: there i can just + or - Sound ... but i need to change outputs
[09:20] <jmarsden> Artemis3: That adjusts levels not which physical jack maps to which input or output :)
[09:21] <racha> jmarsden: someone say me its possible to change outputs with pulseaudo so i installed it :S but i cant find how to change it :S
[09:21] <GPL> how to format a usb drive (to prepare it for a bootable installation) in ubuntu ?
[09:22] <Artemis3> racha, those things... hmm are shown in alsamixer too, if you see some without volume but just some value you can change, such as input from linein vs mic, etc. i forgot exactly and it does change with different cards
[09:22] <Artemis3> racha, and press TAB too
[09:22] <jmarsden> racha: It's possible pulseaudio can do that, but I don't know the specifics, my audio card doesn't do software jack remapping.
[09:23] <Artemis3> racha, its pg-up pd-dn to change the values once you find them
[09:23] <duckx0r> i'm having problems with this new widescreen monitor I bought. When KDM loads I can get to the login screen just fine with the max resolution of the monitor, but when KDE loads the screen gets all distorted as if it is out of the range of the monitor. Setting it in Xorg.conf seems to do the same with anything above 1024x768. How can I get into KDE with 1366x768 like it should be?
[09:24] <racha> Artemis3: u talk about alsamixer -c 0 ? there is Card: HDA NVidia but i need to config My C-Media sound card not onboard one ... or PulseAudio
[09:24] <Artemis3> racha, then its not 0 :) might be 1? you have more than one it seems
[09:26] <pengwyn>  /msg ubottu  help
[09:27] <jmarsden> pengwyn: That had a space at the front, try without the space :)
[09:27] <Keiffer> how can i see if someone is shhing in my machine?
[09:27] <thore> hi guys
[09:27] <racha> Artemis3: i can just change it to use Mic out as Bass/C and Linein as L/R
[09:27] <jmarsden> Keiffer: If they actually logged in, w   will show their login session.
[09:27] <duckx0r> nevermind I got it working yay! the stupid monitor says it is capable of 1366x768 but it's only capable of 1360x768. so setting it to that setting worked. Stupidity of AOC
[09:27] <jmarsden> Keiffer: Also read /var/log/auth
[09:27] <Keiffer> thank you, jmarsden
[09:27] <racha> Artemis3, but i dont need to get it like on http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[09:28] <Artemis3> racha, i don't know if the alsa driver can handle those things for your card model, you did press TAB so views changes to ALL no?
[09:29] <pengwyn> jmarsden-   Bot's working now.  I had to open dialog.  duh
[09:29] <racha> Artemis3: there is no Option for that .. but someone told me i can du that with pulseaudio ... but idk. how :S
[09:29] <Artemis3> whats the model?
[09:29] <Logomachist> When I log into Ubuntu I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it.
[09:29] <Artemis3> (lspci)
[09:29] <Logomachist> I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail.
[09:30] <Logomachist> So seems my problem is particular to one account but not tied to the user preferences. Any suggestions?
[09:31] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Delete / Rebuild the account for the one user
[09:31] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Create a new account and test
[09:32] <pengwyn> Logomachist-     or Maybe if you were messing with the settings, just CTR-ALT-BACKSPACE to reload the xserver
[09:33] <racha> Any1 here can help me with pulseaudio
[09:34] <Blizzerand> !sound
[09:34] <Blizzerand> !sound | racha
[09:34] <Blizzerand> racha : Not sure that would help but try the link
[09:34] <racha> Blizzerand: that dont work....
[09:35] <racha> Blizzerand: I need to mod. my Outupt Jack's :) they need to be like in pic : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[09:35] <aaron113> pengwyn: are you there
[09:35] <iceroot> is there a way to use auto-complete with scp? because often i dont know the filenames and have to use an extra ssh to look up  something like scp user@192.168.0.2:/home/michael/mail-for->tab = mail-for-friends.odt
[09:35] <racha> Blizzerand: and someone say me it can be done with pulseaudio
[09:36] <pengwyn> aaron113-  yeah
[09:36] <Blizzerand> !ubuntuforums
[09:36] <aaron113> pengwyn: ok just type in a terminal :sudo aptitude/apt-get install x11vnc
[09:36] <mostafa_> James147: I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?
[09:36] <aaron113> pengwyn: i use aptitude
[09:37] <phux> Whats the difference between aptitude and apt-get ?
[09:37] <Blizzerand> racha : try ubuntu froums , those guys may be able to help you out
[09:37] <mostafa_> I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?
[09:37] <pengwyn> aaron113-  you don't want me connecting to your box man
[09:37] <aaron113> ok
[09:37] <aaron113> nut
[09:37] <aaron113> *but
[09:37] <pengwyn> This is just a vm, but hey, I don't want to be on your files.
[09:37] <pengwyn> You can test yourself can't ya?
[09:38] <aaron113> pengwyn: do you know why im having that problem
[09:38] <jmarsden> phux: aptitude has different (more complex) dependency handling, but they are both tools that do the same task.
[09:38] <ace__> how can i install opera 10 in xubuntu
[09:38] <pengwyn> I would assume bad rules for the X11
[09:38] <pengwyn> Or bad iptables rules
[09:38] <duckx0r> ace__: go to the oepra website and downoad the .deb file
[09:38] <duckx0r> opera*
[09:38] <mostafa_> I wanna write this command "sudo shutdown -r now" and ofcourse before doing that I want to ask the user to do this or not how could I do that?
[09:39] <aaron113> pengwyn: then why isnt it working
[09:39] <Artemis3> i like apt-get more, as i have seen aptitude going real crazy trying to "solve" dependencies
[09:39] <duckx0r> mostafa_: that question makes no sense
[09:39] <pengwyn> aaron113-   does it connect
[09:39] <mostafa_> duckx0r: why ?
[09:39] <jmarsden> mostafa_: Read a good guide to bash scripting such as http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[09:39] <ace__> But is that safe?.I mean i cannot find opera in synaptic
[09:39] <duckx0r> mostafa_: you want to ask the user to do this or that? what do you mean?
[09:40] <Artemis3> opera has a repo in their own page i think, or a .deb
[09:40] <duckx0r> ace__: perfectly safe, yes.
[09:40] <aaron113> pengwyn: yes it connects to a computer very fast but i cant control it
[09:40] <pengwyn> aaron113-   and your keys and mouse are in a kvm right?
[09:40] <duckx0r> Artemis3: yes, you are right, they have a repo too
[09:40] <ace__> Thanks alot duckx0r.
[09:40] <iceroot> ace__: opera is in the canoncial-repo (imo)
[09:40] <ManDay> This night, I had my laptop updating from 9.04 to 9.10 on battery power. It had about three to four hours of power left when it started installing packages (stated: remaining 40 minutes). Today morning I started it and just goes into an empty black screen with a white underscore in the upper left corner instead of booting up the kernel. Taking a look into GRUB, it only has kernels from 2.6.28-11 through 2.6.28-15, which is weird because it shoul
[09:40] <ManDay> d have updated to 2.6.30 - any suggestions?
[09:40] <aaron113> pengwyn: whats a kvm?
[09:41] <pengwyn> okay your keys and mouse are directly connected to the cpu right?
[09:41] <mostafa_> duckx0r: I wanna restart but before that I want to ask the user to do this or not? and ofcourse this is a script command
[09:41] <jmarsden> aaron113: Kernel Virtual Machine
[09:41] <alex__> hi
[09:41] <Artemis3> ace__, also i suggest you give midori a try ^^
[09:41] <racha> any1 knowe why is my Flash Videos Laggy :S ?
[09:41] <pengwyn> jmarsden-  Keyboard Video Mouse Switch
[09:41] <duckx0r> mostafa_: if users are using sudo, they should know what they are doing before they try to restart
[09:42] <aaron113> pengwyn: kernel virtual machien?
[09:42] <ace__> Installing midori right now.
[09:42] <Artemis3> racha, could be many things, but dont try fullscreen (flash sucks)
[09:42] <pengwyn> aaron113-  No.  Keyboard Video Mouse Switch
[09:42] <jmarsden> Hmmm... depends on context, I suppose.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[09:42] <Replop> hum. after booting on Ubuntu's dvd, and selecting "install ubuntu" ,  I got a grey screen with a white rectangle in the upper left corner and a laggish round cursor.    Doesn't look like normal behavior
[09:42] <jmarsden> In the Ubuntu world, KVM is a virtualization technology...
[09:42] <aaron113> pengwyn: never done that before?
[09:43] <racha> Artemis3 : i knowe ... but all my videos on Youtube are lagy :S how to fix that ?
[09:43] <pengwyn> where 1 key does a ton of boxen
[09:43] <mostafa_> duckx0r: K but i just wanna to prompt the user that's all
[09:43] <pengwyn> Doin it now .
[09:43] <mostafa_> duckx0r: how could I prompt?
[09:43] <pengwyn> (cough)
[09:43] <Artemis3> racha, which video card?
[09:43] <aaron113> pengwyn: why not try vnc
[09:43] <jmarsden> mostafa_: Learn bash.  Especially the read buildin.   Tyep   help read    for some info on that.
[09:44] <racha> Artemis : ATI X1650
[09:44] <pengwyn> aaron113-  I have hardware
[09:44] <duckx0r> mostafa_: i don't think that you can. if a user is issuing a shutdown command, they should know that that's what they want to do
[09:44] <wangjian2012> ubuntu Õģ│ķŚŁõĖŹķ£ĆĶ”ü ńÜä µ£ŹÕŖĪ ÕĘ▓ń╗ÅÕ«ēĶŻģõ║åsysv-rc-conf
[09:44] <aaron113> pengwyn: ? :o
[09:44] <duckx0r> mostafa_: especialy if they are sudo'ing to do it
[09:44] <jmarsden> duckx0r: Of course you can ask users a question in a shell script...
[09:44] <wangjian2012> µĆÄõ╣łÕģ│ķŚŁķś┐ ķéŻõ╣łÕżÜńÜä Ķ┐ÉĶĪīńŁēń║¦
[09:44] <aaron113> pengwyn: no i meant we both try it
[09:44] <Artemis3> racha, ouch, im not expert with catalyst..
[09:44] <aaron113> wangjian2012: noone can read thAt sorry
[09:45] <duckx0r> jmarsden: i think he was saying in the shutdown command itself though
[09:45] <Replop> seeing thoses kanjis, but not understanding them, indeed
[09:45] <pengwyn> aaron113-  I could try it, you could give me your nfo to logon, and I could delete or snatch your files.  That's not what you want dude.
[09:45] <Artemis3> might be chinese...
[09:45] <jmarsden> duckx0r: No, he wants to know how to write shell scripts without actually learning bash :)
[09:45] <duckx0r> jmarsden: lol ahh yeah i think i see what you mean now
[09:45] <aaron113> no looks like japaniese
[09:46] <bazhang> !cn | wangjian2012
[09:46] <mostafa_> duckx0r: how could I prompt the user to press sth can you help me with this?
[09:46] <pengwyn> aaron113- looks like big 5
[09:46] <jmarsden> mostafa_: The read command... help read
[09:46] <Artemis3> its chinese, see, no hiraganas :)
[09:46] <aaron113> pengwyn: ? what!
[09:46] <aaron113> pengwyn: pm cani
[09:46] <aaron113> pengwyn: can i pm u
[09:46] <pengwyn> y
[09:47] <aaron113> pengwyn: private
[09:47] <duckx0r> mostafa_: just do a google search on bash programming and learn how to give the user a prompt
[09:48] <mostafa_> duckx0r: thanks for your help;)
[09:48] <duckx0r> mostafa_: you have to create a script that will ask the user whether or not to continue and if so, issue the shutdown command. they'll also have to enter their password too since it uses sudo (and be a member of the wheel group)
[09:49] <duckx0r> man... why couldn't i remember yesterday that the name of the group was wheel?
[09:49] <mostafa_> duckx0r:  yeah exactly I want to do such thing
[09:49] <grizm> ąČąŠą┐ą░ ą║ą░ą║ą░čÅ čéąŠ
[09:49] <duckx0r> mostafa_: unfortunately you're going to have to learn how to program a bit
[09:50] <jmarsden> duckx0r: Because in Ubuntu, there is no wheel group?
[09:50] <mostafa_> duckx0r: I wanna prompt the user that if he don't want to reboot press N and then it cancels the restart
[09:50] <Artemis3> jmarsden, there is adm :)
[09:50] <Chibble> duckx0r: there is no wheel in Ubuntu
[09:50] <jmarsden> mostafa_: help read     # I already told you what command to use to prompt the user and get his response.
[09:51] <duckx0r> there's a wheel group in my kubuntu 8.04 :P
[09:51] <genii> !ru grizm
[09:51] <genii> !ru |grizm
[09:51] <grawity> duckx0r: He means "by default, there is no wheel group"
[09:51] <grawity> Chibble: But there is 'admin'
[09:51] <jmarsden> duckx0r: Then you added it.  I don't know of a default Ubuntu install that creates a wheel group.
[09:51] <Chibble> grawity: I will state it again for you. There is no wheel group in Ubuntu.
[09:51] <jmarsden> duckx0r: So telling others they need to be in a wheel group is a bad idea.
[09:51] <ManDay> This night, I had my laptop updating from 9.04 to 9.10 on battery power. It had about three to four hours of power left when it started installing packages (stated: remaining 40 minutes). Today morning I started it and just goes into an empty black screen with a white underscore in the upper left corner instead of booting up a login shell. Taking a look into GRUB, it only has kernels from 2.6.28-11 through 2.6.28-15, which is weird because it sh
[09:51] <ManDay> ould have updated to 2.6.30. Manually selecting 2.6.28-15 (recovery) hangs up at "[   9.54600] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0". Manually selecting 2.6.28-15 it shows the ubuntu loading bar (not progress bar) and goes into the black screen then.
[09:52] <mostafa_> jmarsden: thank you, you are right I should go and learn more ;)
[09:52] <duckx0r> jmarsden: k my mistake
[09:52] <grawity> Chibble: I know that. But there is an "admin" group, which is for all purposes the same thing.
[09:52] <mostafa_> mostafa_: then I come back ;)
[09:52] <Artemis3> why would you update distro on battery power? thats crazy :P
[09:52] <Chibble> grawity: for the last time I will state: There is no wheel group in Ubuntu. Please drop the matter.
[09:52]  * grawity sighs
[09:52] <grawity> I didn't even start it.
[09:52] <mostafa_> duckx0r: jmarsden: thank you both
[09:53] <Blizzerand> lol
[09:53] <Artemis3> ManDay, i say, dl rc5 and install fresh
[09:53] <duckx0r> but that's weird because i remember removing a user from the wheel group and then they were unable to sudo in my kubuntu 8.04 install and i don't remember adding the group...
[09:53] <Artemis3> i mean alpha 5
[09:53] <ManDay> Artemis3, rc5 is what? the kernel?
[09:53] <ManDay> or jaunty?
[09:53] <Artemis3> no no karmic
[09:53] <Artemis3> alpha 5
[09:54] <Artemis3> or the latest
[09:54] <ManDay> i beg your pardon but how could i download karmic?
[09:54] <Artemis3> oh
[09:54] <ManDay> would i have to do it manually?
[09:54] <Blizzerand> Karmic Alpha 6 in 1 1/2 week
[09:54] <ManDay> or is there something like a live-install package?
[09:54] <jmarsden> Artemis3: But that would potentially lose all ManDay's data on the laptop!  That's not really a solution to a non-booting machine with an existing OS and data on it.
[09:54] <Artemis3> ManDay, http://distrowatch.com/ubuntu
[09:54] <ManDay> jmarsden, screw the data
[09:54] <duckx0r> ManDay: karmic is still in alpha, so it's not recommended unless you are testing it
[09:55] <jimis> anyone gay
[09:55] <jimis> plz
[09:55] <Artemis3> well he can always backup first from the live cd
[09:55] <ManDay> I was just planning to get jaunty fresh and then update that again.
[09:55] <jimis> anyone gay
[09:55] <jimis> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[09:55] <ManDay> duckx0r, i want the INTEL graphics fixed. 2d performance is horrible
[09:55] <Blizzerand> ManDay : : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/alpha-5/
[09:55] <Artemis3> and he was going into 9.10 anyway...
[09:55]  * grawity tries to decide between !ot and !ops
[09:55] <duckx0r> ManDay: do they fix that in karmic?
[09:56] <Artemis3> yes its for testing, no one should be upgrading into 9.10 unless the data doesnt matter and can be wiped, etc.
[09:57] <Chibble> grawity: in future use either one as you see fit. However, do not clog the channel with your "ruminations" on the matter. Thank you.
[09:57] <aaron113> grawity: ops is simple
[09:57] <Artemis3> And actually, when you finish installing karmic, you have to fsck once because of a silly bug :P
[09:58] <duckx0r> Artemis3: lol that is rather silly
[09:58] <Artemis3> and yes, it seems intel is better with 9.10
[09:58] <grawity> Chibble: And that's kinda the reason why I took it to PM.
[09:58] <davidscott> hi! is it a french version of ubuntu channel?
[09:59] <davidscott> hi! is it a french version of ubuntu channel?
[09:59] <grawity> davidscott: Try #ubuntu-fr
[09:59] <grawity> davidscott: And there's really no need to repeat your messages.
[09:59] <duckx0r> Artemis3: ooh that's good. does it support compiz?
[09:59] <Chibble> grawity: please ask before PMing me in future. Thank you.
[09:59] <Artemis3> yes
[09:59] <MadAGu> hey guys i have a problem with 9.10... i can't click the youtube player buttons when i use kde and compiz is activated
[09:59] <Artemis3> in the 3 machines with intel gma i tried it enables compiz
[10:00] <aaron113> Chibble: ya right u didnt ask me! >:(
[10:00] <duckx0r> Artemis3: that's good to know thanks
[10:00] <tomas1> heu guys any way to set a mail server up on 9.04 desktop
[10:00] <aaron113> tomas1: i can help
[10:00] <grawity> tomas1: Just install Postfix or Exim4, then configure it.
[10:00] <Canadian_Trenche> SO question i just installed 9.10 on acer one and of course wireless drivers arent working try to install madwifi and doesnt want to accept any ideas ?
[10:00] <nemesis1911> I gotta problem with my computer freezing up my mouse and keyboard stops working when I start to play mp3 using any player in Ubuntu 9.04
[10:01] <aaron113> tomas1: install mozila thunder bird
[10:01] <tomas1> ok will try
[10:01] <nemesis1911> can anyone help me
[10:01] <aaron113> tomas1: it is the best
[10:01] <MadAGu> anyone?
[10:01] <tomas1> i have that but its not what i ment
[10:01] <duckx0r> aaron113: he said a mail server, not a mail client
[10:01] <pengwyn> nemesis1911-  what kind of power supply you got?
[10:01] <aaron113> !wait | MadGu
[10:01] <duckx0r> nemesis1911: no
[10:01] <Chibble> aaron113: I have tried to help you two times. Both times you refused to perform the simple tasks I outlined. Once more; please find out your specific input hardware.
[10:02] <duckx0r> nemesis1911: sorry didn' see your first comment. ignore me.
[10:02] <Canadian_Trenche> chibble aaron was here last night he is kinda thick headed when it comes to being helped
[10:02] <Logomachist> When I log into Ubuntu I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it.
[10:02] <Logomachist> I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail.
[10:02] <ManDay> duckx0r, yes, it's said to be fixed. Otherwise I wouldn't update
[10:02] <Logomachist> So seems my problem is particular to one account but not tied to the user preferences. Any suggestions?
[10:02] <FloodBot1> Logomachist: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <Canadian_Trenche> dude dont flood
[10:02] <nemesis1911> its a 300w
[10:02] <NumLock> Hi Everyone
[10:03] <tomas1> where do i get exim4
[10:03] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Make A NEW ACCOUNT and TEST
[10:03] <aaron113> google it tomas1
[10:03] <Chibble> Canadian_Trenche: I thought he was being deliberately obtuse. As I was giving him instructions he was insulting me.
[10:03] <Chibble> aaron113: I will still help you, but you *must* perform the tasks asked of you
[10:03] <tomas1> and does it run on the desktop version
[10:03] <Canadian_Trenche> >.> yeah same as last night
[10:04] <pengwyn> nemesis1911-  Maybe not enough?  for all your drives and usb?
[10:04] <duckx0r> Logomachist: what WM are you using?
[10:04] <Chibble> aaron113: and, for your own security, do *not* keep asking people to connect to your machine.
[10:04] <Logomachist> Canadian_Trenche: Sorry, didn't think 3 lines were unreasonable. I'll write it all in one clump next time.
[10:04] <duckx0r> Logomachist: err desktop environment i mean
[10:04] <shrey> hey when i press ctrl+alt+f1 i m in konsole mode. But how to come back to KDE mode ?
[10:04] <ManDay> Ok, I'm downloading the Karmic install CD.
[10:04] <aaron113> Chibble: i didnt ask anyone
[10:04] <Myrtti> ctrl - alt - f7, shrey
[10:04] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  have you tested by making a new user account?
[10:04] <aaron113> ManDay: realy!
[10:05] <Logomachist> pengwyn: I already did make a new account. The new account works decently, I'm trying to figure out what is wrong with the old one.
[10:05] <nemesis1911> pengwyn : I don't have a lot pluged in.. it just does it when I play MP3 when I play movies its fine
[10:05] <dell_> hello, can anybody have any experiences for intel gm45 graphic driver. i have a sloppy picture in HD flash movies on youtube ...
[10:05] <Logomachist> duckx0r: I'm using the default Ubuntu environment.
[10:05] <zaccour> is there something like computer janitor for kubuntu?
[10:05] <ManDay> I assume there isn't any way to strip the ubuntu installation down to a set of essentials apart from installing it all manually, is there?
[10:05] <NumLock> I would like to create my own remixed ubuntu
[10:05] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  what window manager?
[10:05] <shrey> Karmin is Gnome or KDE.
[10:05] <Myrtti> !mini | ManDay
[10:05] <bazhang> !remaster > NumLock
[10:05] <pengwyn> rm -rf ~/.kde .gnome
[10:05] <ManDay> ah!
[10:06] <ManDay> Myrtti, something like that available for Karmic?
[10:06] <Myrtti> ManDay: ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[10:06] <shrey> Karmic is Gnome or KDE ? i m using Kubuntu KDE so should i switch to Karmic, if yes than why?
[10:06] <pengwyn> or rename them  SORRY  Logomachist
[10:06] <Myrtti> shrey: no
[10:06] <Chibble> aaron113: I'll tell you in channel. Write it down, or copy and paste it somewhere. The "lshw" and "lspci" commands will aid you in the first instance
[10:06] <Myrtti> shrey: karmic is the name of an upcoming release
[10:06] <bazhang> shrey, karmic discussion in #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <NumLock> bazhang: can i release my iso when finished?
[10:06] <duckx0r> shrey: when it is released, you can switch if you want
[10:06] <Myrtti> shrey: it's either
[10:07] <Logomachist> pengwyn: By window manager do you mean Gnome or compiz? Sorry I'm not exactly sure of Linux terminology.
[10:07] <bazhang> NumLock, share with others? sure why not
[10:07] <Artemis3> Canadian_Trenche, in the zg5s i tried with 9.10, wireless work out of the box
[10:07] <shrey> Myrtti: thanks
[10:07] <grawity> Logomachist: Compiz is the window manager, GNOME is the entire desktop environment.
[10:07] <pengwyn> gnome, kde, e, poisonbox, etc
[10:07] <Logomachist> grawity: OK.
[10:08] <grawity> pengwyn: GNOME is not a window manager.
[10:08] <jfcgauss_> hi. synaptic 0.62.5 that comes with ubuntu 9.04 keeps selecting Preferences>"consider recommended packages as dependencies" while i keep unselecting it. what could be the reason (my systems is updated) ?
[10:08] <NumLock> bazhang: cool, once i've compiled my iso can i share it streight away?
[10:08] <grawity> Logomachist: (And if you turn off Compiz, you get Metacity, the simpler window manager)
[10:08] <bazhang> NumLock, of course
[10:08] <Artemis3> these are called Desktop Envireoments (Metacity would be the default Window Manager)
[10:08] <Logomachist> pengwyn: I'm sorry, what did you want me to rename? .gnome and .kde files?
[10:08] <NumLock> :)
[10:09] <Logomachist> pengwyn: .gnome I deleted earlier
[10:09] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  I suggested you try to rename the window manager config files
[10:09] <pengwyn> Logomachist- Or the entire account
[10:09] <aaron113> Chibble: i didnt see anything about touch pad or mouse
[10:09] <Logomachist> pengwyn: What exactly should I rename and where do I find it?
[10:10] <pengwyn> beyond that, you'll have to compare to find WHAT went wrong
[10:10] <Chibble> aaron113: please direct all further questions to grawity. Good day to you
[10:10] <pengwyn>  /home/theaccountyourtalkingabout
[10:10] <Logomachist> pengwyn: WIll do that now.
[10:10] <aaron113> grawity: you there
[10:10] <NumLock> I'm looking to install the very latest apache, as ubuntu doesn't come with the very latest version, if someone types tasksel and selects LAMP, will ubuntu over-wright the apache install or error out that apache is already installed?
[10:10] <ninel> my upgrade of  hardy to intrepid and then to jaunty   disabled the  unified button for IM status indicator + shutdown button how can I recover that?
[10:10] <S33K3R> can anyone give a reason why i shouldn't upgrade from jaunty to karmic?
[10:10] <pengwyn> Wait
[10:10] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  Wait
[10:11] <aaron113> S33K3R: because the stable version isnt redy or comeout yet
[10:11] <bazhang> S33K3R, its not released; discussion of karmic in #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <pengwyn> If you already have one working in a test account you could just rename stuff.  nevermind.
[10:11] <grawity> aaron113: ?
[10:11] <pengwyn> account juggle
[10:11] <pengwyn> nm
[10:11] <aaron113> grawity: chibble said you could help me
[10:13] <NumLock> I'm looking to install the very latest apache, as ubuntu doesn't come with the very latest version, if someone types tasksel and selects LAMP, will ubuntu over-wright the apache install or error out that apache is already installed?
[10:13] <dell_> does anybody have any experience about intel gm45 video chipset ?
[10:13] <ManDay> Can someone tell me the name of the (Windows) tool which puts an iso onto a thumbdrive and makes it bootable?
[10:14] <grawity> ManDay: Unetbootin is the most popular one.
[10:14] <ManDay> grawity, thanks thats exactly what i was thinking of
[10:14] <aaron113> grawity: please see my private mesage.
[10:15] <abhi_> ManDay: unetbootin
[10:15] <ManDay> Does the mini-installation support the same drivers for Wireless as the normal one?
[10:19] <miguelonnnn> hi
[10:19] <xuckx0r> hi
[10:19] <miguelonnnn> please how can i know where is my grub 1.5 installed?
[10:20] <xuckx0r> miguelonnnn, /boot/
[10:20] <merma> /boot/grub ?
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> i don't have boot
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> ah yeah you mean the folder
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> ok xd
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> thanks
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> esto no va tio
[10:20] <miguelonnnn> le doy a aceptar y no pasa nada
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> que es eso  dcc?
[10:21] <xuckx0r> miguelonnnn, wrong chat window?
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> no me deja aceptarlo
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> sryy
[10:21] <miguelonnnn> sryyyyyyyy
[10:21] <Sassy> Hi All - can someone please tell me if there is a sudo apt-get install for a CD burning program please????
[10:21] <jfcgauss_> brasero
[10:21] <grawity> Sassy: Brasero is already included with Ubuntu.
[10:21] <xuckx0r> Sassy, are you using gnome or kde?
[10:21] <grawity> Sassy: The package name is 'brasero'. If you're on Kubuntu, K3B may be better.
[10:21] <Sassy> umm.... gnome i think
[10:21] <pengwyn> k3m in kde
[10:22] <pengwyn> k3b ha I mean
[10:22] <Logomachist> pengwyn: I renamed my home directory, and when I logged in things were worse than before- I didn't even have wallpaper. So I changed the directory back to the way it was, logged in again, and now am back to the original problem: no panels and no window decoration. Do you recommend turning off compiz? If so, how do I do that?
[10:22] <Sassy> Thanks Guys... dumb arsed me.... my bestie just found it for me lol!!! thanks heaps!!
[10:23] <Doc-Saintly> Hello, i'm having some sound problems on ubuntu. running 9.04, i can do the sound tests, but VLC has no audio
[10:23] <pengwyn> Logomachist-  renamed /home ?  not that.
[10:23] <Logomachist> No, /home/username
[10:23] <pengwyn> oh okay
[10:23] <pengwyn> you scared me there
[10:23] <jmarsden> Logomachist: sudo apt-get purge compiz   # will uninstall compiz if that is what you want to try
[10:24] <aaron113> ya
[10:24] <Logomachist> jmarsden: I guess?
[10:24] <pengwyn> don't guess
[10:25] <duckx0r> Logomachist, this is what I would do: log into your test account and copy the hidden folders over from your old user's account one by one and log in every time until you can reproduce the error, then you know that's the culprit folder. then you can either delete it or try to fix it
[10:25] <pengwyn> dux0r = spot on
[10:26] <pengwyn> is it a missing symbolic link?
[10:27] <duckx0r> Logomachist, also, have you checked your log files? they might say something about what's going on
[10:28] <pengwyn> xorg.conf's are fun to make now
[10:28] <macs> hai guys
[10:28] <macs> I am new to IRC ....
[10:28] <Logomachist> duckx0r: Have not checked log files. That's a good idea. Where would these log files be stored?
[10:28] <duckx0r> Logo /var/log
[10:28] <pengwyn>  /var/log/messages
[10:28] <macs> This is the first time I am here in am IRC
[10:28] <grawity> macs: Welcome to Freenode, then
[10:29] <Logomachist> duckx0r:  kk. ::runs off to check log files::
[10:29] <macs> Thanks...
[10:29] <macs> Hai ..can you help me to register a nick name
[10:29] <S33K3R> i installed yahoo messenger.exe using wine in jaunty, but its not working. what could be wrong?
[10:30] <aaron113> S33K3R: lol never heard of a person doing that!
[10:30] <pengwyn> macs /msg nickserv help
[10:30] <duckx0r> macs, type /msg nicserv help
[10:30] <pengwyn> lol
[10:30] <duckx0r> err what pengwyn said
[10:30] <macs> type where ......
[10:30] <kandjar`> hi there; quick question: i installed ubuntu 9.04 which came with gnome; and I d like to try kde; what's the easiest way to do so?
[10:30] <macs> I amusing Pidgin
[10:30] <Doc-Saintly> kandjar`: use xubuntu
[10:31] <aaron113> i forgot my root passwd is there a way to change it
[10:31] <aaron113> ?
[10:31] <Doc-Saintly> er wait kandjar` , kubuntu
[10:31] <aaron113> :)
[10:31] <grawity> macs: Type commands in the box below - in the same box where you type messages.
[10:31] <duckx0r> kandjar`, type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <grawity> aaron113: Yes.
[10:31] <Doc-Saintly> kandjar`: ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde, xubuntu = xcfe
[10:31] <macs> :)
[10:31] <macs> Oky
[10:31] <aaron113> then grawity how
[10:31] <macs>  /msg nickserv help
[10:31] <pengwyn> pubuntu = poison box?
[10:31] <grawity> macs: Without spaces before :\
[10:31] <duckx0r> lmao
[10:32] <kandjar`> Doc-Saintly: i know that :) but i dont feel like reinstalling ubuntu :P
[10:32] <grawity> duckx0r: I see nothing funny in that.
[10:32] <grawity> kandjar`: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, like you've been told already.
[10:32] <Dr_Willis_Arch> I think they just need to make a 'ask me what window manager to install ubuntu' :)    AmwWmtIbuntu
[10:32] <duckx0r> grawity, you have no sense of humour then
[10:32] <pengwyn> grawity-  sorry
[10:32] <aaron113> grawity: how do you change ur root passwd
[10:32] <kandjar`> grawity: :) oops didnt see it :)
[10:32] <grawity> duckx0r: My sense of humor doesn't include laughing at someone who typo'd a command.
[10:32] <macs> thanks I got some help ..
[10:32] <macs> let me read it
[10:32] <kandjar`> thanks grawity, duckx0r :) i ll give it a try
[10:32] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  boot live cd and chroot over and set it.. or use rescue mode  perhaps.
[10:32] <duckx0r> grawity, mine does
[10:33] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  how did you set it the first time? root  has no password by default its 'disabled'
[10:33] <grawity> duckx0r: Yours is a strange sense of humor, then.
[10:33] <duckx0r> grawity, it's "special"
[10:33] <rek> hi,how can i use xvesa in ubuntu?
[10:33] <pengwyn> (I ain't laughing, I gave out rm's )
[10:33] <aaron113> Dr_Willis_Arch: there is no need for that
[10:33] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  no need for what?
[10:33] <pengwyn> tried to say wait though
[10:33] <aaron113> i know thereis another way for it
[10:34] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  you mean the actual 'root' users password . or the initial 'admin user' password?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis_Arch> If the admin user can still sudo , you can set other users password via sudo passwd username
[10:35] <pengwyn> I think it's in Kee-Pass
[10:35] <duckx0r> Dr_Willis_Arch, i think you can set the root password that way too
[10:35] <aaron113> Dr_Willis_Arch: no remember u type in su in a terminal and it promts the user to a passwd and now i forgot that passwd can u tell me how to change it back?
[10:35] <root> hi
[10:35] <kandjar`> duckx0r, grawity: i suppose if I want to try xcfe I should do: apt-get xubuntu-desktop? is it easy to switch between the different wm?
[10:36] <ikonia> aaron113: set the users password with sudo passwd $username
[10:36] <ortsvorsteher> !u | aaron113
[10:36] <duckx0r> kandjar`, yes very easy
[10:36] <duckx0r> kandjar`, you select them when you log in
[10:36] <kandjar`> ok :) nice :)
[10:36] <Dr_Willis_Arch> aaron113:  'su -' would want the 'root' users actual password. There is no root users actual password by default.   Unless you set one.  If you set one, then need to 'reset' it - you can use one of the 3 ways i mentioned. live  cd, rescue mode, or sudo passwd username
[10:37] <pengwyn> kandjar, try poisonbox  ;o)
[10:37] <kandjar`> poisonbox?
[10:37] <duckx0r> aaron113, do you mean "su" or "sudo"?
[10:37] <aaron113> ikonia: thank you very much
[10:37] <pengwyn> oh yeah, poisonbox
[10:38] <duckx0r> pengwyn, what is poisonbox?
[10:39] <pengwyn> duckx0r-  it's a window manager . hard core
[10:39] <Dr_Willis_Arch> !info posionbox
[10:39] <Dr_Willis_Arch> :)
[10:39] <duckx0r> pengwyn, must be hard core. it doesn't even show up on the first page of google
[10:39] <Dr_Willis_Arch> !info poisonbox
[10:39] <duckx0r> lol
[10:39] <nemesis1911> how to i get my iPhone to work with Ubuntu 9.04
[10:39] <pengwyn> then look up poisonbox
[10:40] <pengwyn> It runs on somethin around here
[10:40] <duckx0r> pengwyn, that's what i searched for
[10:41] <pengwyn> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&rls=en&hs=4WP&q=ubuntu+poisonbox+window+manager&btnG=Search
[10:41] <pengwyn> (cough)
[10:41] <ortsvorsteher> !iphone | nemesis1911
[10:41] <pengwyn> Fravia spanks ye
[10:42] <rek> Remember that since you cannot use IRQs or DMA in a user-mode program, you will probably have to write a kernel driver to use ECP/EPP; I think someone is writing such a driver         what does this mean?  i think i can open my parallel port and use it whenever i want
[10:42] <pengwyn> rat poison  poison box same thing
[10:42] <pengwyn> heh
[10:43] <TruthLiker> Hello :)
[10:43] <rek> i just need to open the port and read data
[10:43] <pengwyn> "Do it! dont like the window manager? use rat poison."
[10:43] <ikonia> pengwyn: why do you keep saying rat poison
[10:43] <TruthLiker> How do I turn on the ftp server in ubuntu ?
[10:43] <pengwyn> ikonia-  I'm sorry
[10:43] <ikonia> TruthLiker: which one did you install ?
[10:44] <TruthLiker> checking...
[10:44] <nemesis1911> if anyone has a iPhone here and need it to work with Ubuntu 9.04 i found the page that explains it http://ivkin.net/2009/04/synching-iphone-over-usb-under-ubuntu/comment-page-1/
[10:44] <pengwyn> duX0r was askin
[10:45] <pengwyn> I spelled it like an -F
[10:45] <ikonia> nemesis1911: if you had that page - why did you ask how to do it?
[10:45] <nemesis1911> i just found it
[10:45] <ManDay> Installing mini-ubuntu what hostname should i specify as the source for downloading ubuntu?
[10:45] <ikonia> nemesis1911: then don't recommend it until you know it works
[10:45] <ikonia> ManDay: mini-ubuntu ?
[10:45] <nemesis1911> k
[10:45] <nemesis1911> sorry
[10:45] <duckx0r> pengwyn, i was asking the same thing lol
[10:46] <ManDay> ikonia, mini install
[10:46] <brijith> hai I am using Pidgin 2.6.1 on ubuntu 8.04, From some where I heard that latest version of pidgin support voice and video chats ......
[10:46] <ikonia> ManDay: pick any repo you want then, I assume you mean the minimal install
[10:46] <ikonia> !minimal | ManDay
[10:46] <TruthLiker> ikonia: Looks like I don't have any server installed which explains I why I could not find a setting for activating it. :\
[10:46] <CharelB> !grub
[10:46] <twright> brjith: I am not sure it is in ppa versions
[10:46] <ManDay> ikonia, there is nothing to pick from.
[10:46] <ikonia> TruthLiker: didn't think so, one is not installed by default
[10:46] <guilro> brijith: you must know it doesn't work for msn
[10:46] <ManDay> it just promts me to enter a hostname, ikonia
[10:46] <duckx0r> brijith, as far as i know it's only supported in 9.10 or later but it may work if you compile it yourself
[10:46] <DJ-Nomad> if anyone finds a page telling how to make a lg rumor's memory card accessible via bluetooth or usb cable hook me up
[10:46] <ikonia> ManDay: yes, so pick a repo hostname
[10:47] <ikonia> ManDay: check out the url ubottu just sent you
[10:47] <rek> hei??
[10:47] <duckx0r> brijith, also, it's not available for msn yet
[10:47] <ManDay> ikonia, there are only downloads there
[10:47] <ManDay> i dont know the hostname i should enter
[10:47] <pengwyn> net install is the best
[10:47] <twright> birjith: It is coming in karmic anyway with the switch to empathy
[10:48] <rek> how can i use xvesa in ubuntu
[10:48] <ManDay> Can anyone tell me what to enter there?
[10:48] <ikonia> ManDay: you need to pick a repo off the web
[10:48] <ManDay> ikonia, where FROM? www.ubuntu.com is down
[10:48] <ManDay> i dont know where to find one
[10:48] <twright> birjith: empathy in the repos should support video
[10:49] <duckx0r> ManDay, www.ubuntu.com is working fine for me
[10:49] <ikonia> ManDay: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[10:49] <ManDay> ok, can you give me a valid hostname for a repo then?
[10:49] <ManDay> thankls
[10:50] <duckx0r> ManDay, how can a repo have a hostname?
[10:50] <pengwyn> manday I start with proxy.org
[10:50] <ManDay> ikonia, that page you gave me is more or less useless
[10:50] <ManDay> it describes activating sources in ubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> ManDay: no it's not
[10:50] <ikonia> pengwyn: proxy.org is not an repo
[10:50] <Logo2> This is Logomachist logging in from the affected computer. I checked var/log/messages and it doesn't have anything older than a day ago, so I can't compare what it looked like before the problems started to what it's looking like now. Even so I don't see anything suspicious. In case any of you wanted to take a look at it, if you want. Give me an email addy and I'll email it to you.
[10:50] <pengwyn> lemme look what mine is ManDay, I know ikonia .  Shush
[10:51] <ManDay> thanks pengwyn
[10:51] <Logo2> (For some reason I can't get pastebin working)
[10:51] <ManDay> i ONLY need the hostname though!i
[10:51] <ManDay> it only asks me for a hostname
[10:51] <ikonia> ManDay: there are many repo's on the web, you can see some listed in the exmaple page I gave you
[10:52] <ManDay> [!!] Choose a mirror of the Ubuntu archive    :    Please enter the hostname of the mirror from which Ubuntu will be downloaded.   An alternat port can be specified using the standard [hostname]:[port] format.    Ubuntu archive mirror hostname: ________
[10:52] <duckx0r> Logo2, did you try copying over the hidden files from your user's home directory into a working test directory one at a time until you can reproduce the error?
[10:52] <ManDay> !repository
[10:52] <ikonia> ManDay: any if you look in the exmaple images you'll see archive.ubuntyu.com ftp.ticklers.org mirror.ox.ack.uk, ubuntu-archive.datashop.it
[10:53] <Logo2> DuckxOr, not that would be what I'd try next.
[10:53] <aaron113> how di i put a fourm in http://ubuntufourm.org/
[10:53] <ManDay> urgh, images, okay ikonia you are right
[10:53] <aaron113> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[10:53] <Logo2> duckxOr: unless someone else had a better idea.
[10:53] <pengwyn> ManDay, still ubuntu.com here crap..  I seen some .de's
[10:54] <duckx0r> Logo2, the only other thing I could think of is renaming your configuration folders, which is essentially the same thing
[10:54] <Logo2> duckxOr: Well I'll go try that. Wish me luck.
[10:54] <duckx0r> Logo2, also keep in mind that if you copy the folders over to the other account that the permissions are changed to the test user's as well
[10:55] <aaron113> how do i add a fourm in ubuntufourm
[10:55] <ikonia> aaron113: add a forum ?
[10:55] <duckx0r> aaron113, you mean start a topic?
[10:55] <aaron113> duckx0r: yes
[10:55] <duckx0r> aaron113, are you logged in?
[10:55] <aaron113> yes linuxbrother11
[10:55] <ikonia> aaron113: ubuntu forum support is in the channel #ubuntuforums
[10:56] <ManDay> one big pita, one would assume that ubuntu after all has it somewhere documented like "list of repositories", but no...
[10:56] <DJ-Nomad> anyone know how to switch my default sound to use my external usb soundblaster instead of my intel?
[10:56] <ikonia> ManDay: there are many lists on the web, and as ubuntu doesn't maintain the mirrors it doesn't know about them
[10:56] <ManDay> ikonia, they could at least present their OWN mirrors...
[10:56] <duckx0r> DJ-Nomad, i know this isn't a great fix, but i had a similar problem a long time ago and i just disabled the onboard sound directly from the bios and everything worked extremely well after that
[10:56] <ikonia> ManDay: it's on ubuntu.com - that's it own mirror
[10:57] <pengwyn> I still looking ManDay
[10:57] <DJ-Nomad> duckx0r,  that might be the best option
[10:57] <ManDay> ikonia, then tell me word for word: what do i have to enter at "hostname" and what to enter at "directory"!
[10:57] <ikonia> ManDay: gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:57] <DJ-Nomad> cause I do not need it for anything
[10:57] <pengwyn> ikonia-  wins
[10:57] <ikonia> ManDay: there is the british archive for you
[10:58] <ManDay> whats the path to the repo there?
[10:58] <pengwyn> it's still ubuntu.com
[10:58] <ManDay> i also need to enter a directory!
[10:58] <ikonia> ManDay: /ubuntu
[10:58] <pengwyn> yeah
[10:58] <pengwyn> heh
[10:58] <ManDay> finally!
[10:58] <ManDay> thanks
[10:58] <ikonia> ManDay: you need to start searching the web for the right information, the point of the minimal CD is to know all this in advance
[10:58] <[Spooky]> Can i have moving images as a wallpaper in 9.04?
[10:59] <pengwyn> iso into a virtualmachine is nice
[10:59] <unimatrix> why does compiz.real constantly use 3% of my CPU even when i'm not doing anything?
[10:59] <ikonia> unimatrix: it's a process - it needs cpu to you and just draw the screen
[10:59] <ikonia> [Spooky]: there is a trick to do this, but it's quite a resource hog
[10:59] <ikonia> [Spooky]: you can even do it with a movie file
[11:00] <duckx0r> ewww a movie file as a desktop wallpaper?
[11:00] <unimatrix> ikonia, well i'm sorry but even Vista's Aero doesn't require so much CPU
[11:00] <ikonia> unimatrix: the window manager for windows it broke down differently so you can't compare like that
[11:00] <ikonia> unimatrix: disable it if you don't like it
[11:01] <unimatrix> ikonia, i need it because without it even moving a window will cause the CPU to spike up to 99%
[11:01] <[Spooky]> ikonia: Yes i know VLC have that option...
[11:01] <ikonia> [Spooky]: you can do it without vlc, I'm trying to find it, I've done it before but it's a real hog
[11:01] <edenroz> hello am installing UNR on a eeepc901 but during installation mouse dont work
[11:02] <ikonia> unimatrix: it sounds like your video card is not setup correctly
[11:02] <twright> ultimatrix: aero does use more cpu in the names of other processes
[11:02] <duckx0r> unimatrix, sounds like something is wrong if you are using 99% of your cpu just to move a window
[11:02] <unimatrix> ikonia, trust me, it is
[11:02] <[Spooky]> ikonia: Hehe ok.. ;) Fun to try out...
[11:02] <ikonia> unimatrix: I doubt that very much
[11:02] <twright> ultimatrix: you probably need proper drivers
[11:02] <ikonia> [Spooky]: it was a very obscure method, tweking fbset etc etc, I'm sure I had a note on it
[11:02] <unimatrix> ikonia, unless ubuntu doesn't know how to install nvidia's drivers, it's set up correctly
[11:03] <ManDay> ikonia, no it doesnt work
[11:03] <ikonia> unimatrix: it can go wrong, it can select the wrong options
[11:03] <duckx0r> unimatrix, did you restart your x server after you installed them?
[11:03] <ManDay> thats not the right directody
[11:03] <ManDay> *directory
[11:03] <Doc-Saintly> I still can't get sound to work on my install. I'm open to just about anything now, i've tried all the stuff i could find on the forums
[11:03] <unimatrix> ikonia, it's been like this for years
[11:03] <ikonia> ManDay: that is the correct hostname and directory, you can even see it at http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[11:03] <Doc-Saintly> I think it has to do with it selecting the OSS sound instead of ALSA for my hdmi connection
[11:03] <duckx0r> unimatrix, maybe it's time to upgrade that many years old card then?
[11:03] <ManDay> my bad
[11:03] <ManDay> sorry ikonia
[11:03] <unimatrix> ikonia, and i've reinstalled everything countless times... it's more likely that nvidia's drivers suck
[11:03] <ikonia> ManDay: try setting your hostname to http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and your directory to jaunty
[11:04] <ikonia> unimatrix: what card is it ?
[11:04] <unimatrix> ikonia, GeForce 6600
[11:04] <twright> ultimatrix, can you post your fps results from planet penguin racer
[11:04] <dyf> hello.. is there a way to get a pre-compiled version of audacity 1.3.9 beta?
[11:04] <duckx0r> 6600 isn't going to handle compiz very well
[11:04] <unimatrix> duckx0r, why?
[11:04] <ikonia> unimatrix: I've had very good results with that in the past
[11:05] <duckx0r> isn't that card like 5 years old now?
[11:05] <ikonia> yes
[11:05] <ikonia> but that's still fine
[11:05] <duckx0r> ok
[11:05] <dyf> 6600 should be able to handle compiz
[11:05] <guilro> duckx0r: i got an ati X200 integrated card and compiz work very well --_--
[11:05] <Subdolus> I'm having dramas while trying to use two wifi cards on two seperate access points at the same time. I need to learn how to route in/out through specific interfaces (wlan0 and wlan1)
[11:05] <twright> ultimatrix, the nvidia drivers are usually excellent - which version are you using
[11:05] <Subdolus> any tips or reading suggestions? I can't really 'explain' what I'm trying to acheive
[11:06] <unimatrix> ikonia, by "very well" you mean it's normal for compiz and Xorg to use 10% of the CPU?
[11:06] <Subdolus> all I want to use wlan0 for is to accept VNC connections for remote control
[11:06] <Subdolus> everything else I want through wlan1
[11:06] <twright> ultimatrix, it is for xorg
[11:06] <Subdolus> I'm dying here :<
[11:06] <unimatrix> twright, well then it sucks
[11:06] <Doc-Saintly> Subdolus: you could create a firewall rule or changeroute tables
[11:06] <ikonia> unimatrix: compiz I don't know as I don't think I ever used a 6600 with compiz, but with a native xorg config - worked fantastic
[11:07] <twright> unimatrix, well does it feel slow? Stats alone are not that much help.
[11:07] <happy> Õż¦Õ«ČÕźĮ
[11:07] <Subdolus> Doc-Saintly: I can? So using nm-applet to connect to one, then the other on the other interface is correct? then figure out iptables?
[11:08] <mue> õĮĀÕźĮ
[11:08] <unimatrix> twright, it sometimes feels slow with scrolling, like in rhythmbox or with longer web pages
[11:08] <happy> µ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║ÕåŹÕ░▒ÕźĮ
[11:08] <ortsvorsteher> !cn | happy
[11:08] <twright> unimatrix, that is probably just a bit of firefox issues
[11:08] <unimatrix> twright, happens in all browsers
[11:09] <ikonia> unimatrix: can you find out what nvidia package you have active please ?
[11:09] <guilro> Subdolus: I don't know at all if http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ can handle what you want to do ?
[11:09] <twright> unimatrix, do the slow pages usually have flash on
[11:09] <unimatrix> twright, not necessarily
[11:09] <Subdolus> guilro: sadly no
[11:09] <twright> unimatrix, it is a lot faster for me with flash block anyway
[11:09] <Subdolus> guilro: it's an excellent tool, but can't configure two interfaces like nm-applet
[11:10] <unimatrix> ikonia, 185.18.36, but it's been like this since 166 or probably even earlier
[11:10] <ikonia> unimatrix: do you fancy doing a test - it's not 2 minutes, but I'd be interested in knowing the results ?
[11:10] <unimatrix> ikonia, yes, i'd love to
[11:10] <guilro> Subdolus: ok =) I have actually never used wicd
[11:10] <kholzer> Anyone in here know math really well?
[11:11] <minche> hello
[11:11] <ikonia> unimatrix: first disable compiz - as it won't work with the test. Then in your /etx/X11/xorg.conf change the line "Driver "Nvidia" " to "Driver "nv" "
[11:11] <duckx0r> kholzer, i might know
[11:11] <ikonia> unimatrix: reboot and see how your generic experience is
[11:11] <guilro> kholzer: what do you mean by very well ?
[11:11] <Subdolus> guilro: it is very nice. I hear alot of talk about being suggesting it should be the standard for Ubuntu installs
[11:11] <twright> kholzer, I hope I am quite good :-)
[11:11] <unimatrix> twright, even faceboook will be enough... grab the scroll and move it up and down really fast... you will notice it lag a little behind the mouse cursor
[11:11] <aaron113> PLEASE VIEW http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7936589#post7936589
[11:11] <minche> how do i fix "null output (pulseaudio mixer)" error
[11:11] <minche> please
[11:11] <kholzer> Lets talk more in #ubutntu-offtopic....
[11:11] <kholzer> Wrong channel.  But I've got a programming question to do with math...
[11:11] <unimatrix> ikonia, ok in a few minutes
[11:12] <twright> unimatrix, facebook has hidden flash
[11:12] <Tuxist> hi
[11:12] <twright> unimatrix, with the ads it can be really slow sometimes
[11:12] <unimatrix> twright, ok fine, slashdot with adblock is the same
[11:12] <ikonia> unimatrix: don't worry - I'm not suggesting you use this setting for ever, just curious in the results
[11:12] <twright> kholzer, ok
[11:12] <duckx0r> facebook runs slow for me on a fast computer and a good video card sometimes
[11:13] <Tuxist> i have trouble with network-manager and script how can i do that the script wait for network-manager is given a ip via dhcp
[11:13] <unimatrix> ikonia, i know
[11:13] <unimatrix> twright, even if it was flash, that doesn't explain why it happens in rhythmbox too
[11:14] <twright> unimatix, well rhythmbox uses a really slow scrolling widget
[11:14] <duckx0r> unimatrix, how many fps does glxgears give you?
[11:14] <twright> unimatrix, how much music do you have
[11:14] <unimatrix> duckx0r, about 4k per 5 secs
[11:14] <twright> duckx0r, glxgears  is no benchmark
[11:14] <duckx0r> twright, it is a rough estimate
[11:15] <happy> µ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║ÕåŹÕÉŚ?
[11:15] <happy> ÕłÜµēŹõĖŹµś»µ£ēõ║║ÕÆīµłæĶ»┤Ķ»ØÕÉŚ
[11:15] <unimatrix> twright, i have an extensive collection, but why should that matter? it shouldn't work any slower
[11:15] <brokenice> bs happy
[11:15] <twright> duckx0r, not it is not - it is just a microbenchmark of one non representative operation
[11:15] <kholzer> duckx0r: do you know diabx0r?
[11:16] <duckx0r> kholzer, no
[11:16] <kholzer> duckx0r: okay, nevermind ;[
[11:16] <happy> µ£ēµ▓Īµ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║Õśø?
[11:16] <twright> unimatrix, more items = slower scrolling
[11:16] <ikonia> happy: this channel is english only
[11:16] <jcfp> !cn | happy
[11:16] <unimatrix> twright, never happened in winamp, no matter how many songs i had
[11:16] <happy> OK
[11:16] <apparle> how to solve this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269684/
[11:16] <rek> nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-71 does not work with 9.04
[11:17] <happy> µłæń£ŗµ£ēµ▓Īµ£ēõĖŁÕøĮõ║║ÕåŹ
[11:17] <happy> µ£ēńÜäĶ»ØÕŖĀµłæÕō”
[11:17] <twright> unimatrix, well winamp is really fast
[11:18] <unimatrix> twright, that's damn right :P
[11:18] <erUSUL> !cn | happy
[11:18] <ikonia> apparle: the url should be http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  not http://in.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:18] <unimatrix> twright, i'm gonna try amarok.. i suspect GTK got really slow over time
[11:19] <duckx0r> unimatrix, if you disable compiz does the scrolling speed up?
[11:19] <rek> nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-71 does not work with 9.04
[11:19] <unimatrix> duckx0r, only a little bit
[11:19] <apparle> ikonia: but as you can see in the 2nd line.........link is alright.....with /ubuntu/
[11:20] <ikonia> apparle: change the first line
[11:20] <duckx0r> unimatrix, but weren't you complaining that enabling compiz made your computer slow?
[11:20] <rek> hei help damn
[11:20] <minche> my sound device isn't recognized
[11:20] <ikonia> rek: clam down, ask a clear question
[11:20] <minche> can anyone help me
[11:21] <ikonia> calm
[11:21] <unimatrix> duckx0r, it makes it slowER :)
[11:21] <rek> already said
[11:21] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | minche
[11:21] <ikonia> rek: I didn't see it
[11:21] <apparle> ikonia: this is my current sources.list http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269686/ is there any problem
[11:21] <rek> nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-71 does not work with 9.04 what can we do.... it's ages i keep reporting this problem!!!
[11:21] <Smooch1502> Hi
[11:21] <aaron113> landscape!
[11:21] <ikonia> apparle: that looks ok - try "sudo apt-get update "see what you get
[11:21] <aaron113> !landscape
[11:22] <ikonia> rek: can you define "doesn't work" please
[11:22] <Smooch1502> !server
[11:22] <twright> unimatrix, amarok will be even slower as it loads kde stuff as well as gnome :-)
[11:22] <apparle> ikonia: same error
[11:22] <unimatrix> twright, it only uses kde stuff though
[11:22] <rek> ikonia, u install it and then u don't see any damn legacy driver in use in system administration
[11:22] <racha> can any1 help me with pulseaudio ?
[11:22] <ikonia> apparle: ok - can you please try "ping in.archive.ubuntu.com"
[11:23] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | racha
[11:23] <ikonia> rek: calm down
[11:23] <ikonia> rek: how have you been installing it ?
[11:23] <rek> what can we do.... via apt-get!!
[11:23] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :)
[11:23] <Smooch1502> rek: This is the program installer eg: use apt-get install programname
[11:23] <unimatrix> racha, what seems to be the problem
[11:23] <ikonia> rek: go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers menu, what do you se
[11:24] <ikonia> see
[11:24] <ortsvorsteher> !details | racha
[11:24] <rek> now i must use win xp but i need to use ubuntu!but i can't because my machine crashes every time without that driver!
[11:24] <racha> unimatrix: i need to change my output Jack's ... to work like http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:24] <apparle> ikonia: I am able to get everything else from in.archive.ubuntu.com except universe packages
[11:24] <rek> cannot use ubuntu now!my machine crashes....without that driver however i didn't see anything......
[11:24] <rek> ikonia, in 8.04 all was fine and easy
[11:24] <duckx0r> rek, have you tried using a default xorg.conf file?
[11:25] <ikonia> apparle: look at line 4 in your sources.list - it's different
[11:25] <Smooch1502> Should i install ubuntu karmic koala beta?
[11:25] <rek> what default???
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: answer my question
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers - what do you see
[11:25] <ikonia> Smooch1502: no
[11:25] <rek> ikonia, already answered i didn't see any drivers in use
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: what do you actually see - does it offer any drivers up ?
[11:25] <rek> ikonia, blank! i saw blank any drivers
[11:25] <Smooch1502> ikonia: Ok thanks
[11:25] <rek> ANY
[11:25] <Tuxist> i such as NETWORKWAIT=yes in fedora
[11:25] <ikonia> rek: what video card do you have ?
[11:25] <duckx0r> rek, are you using an old ati card?
[11:26] <rek> Nvidia gts 2 ikonia  perfect for those pacages
[11:26] <brundisium62> ciao
[11:26] <brundisium62> !list
[11:26] <ikonia> rek: please pastebin the output of "lspci"
[11:26] <the_madman> OK, so I found some strange anomolies in Ubuntu's firefox packages...
[11:26] <rek> ikonia, u know i'm running win xp
[11:26] <rek> cannot use ubuntu
[11:26] <Doc-Saintly> are there non-strange anomolies the_madman ?
[11:26] <ikonia> rek: I didn't know you where running XP
[11:27] <twright> unimatrix, If you are running kde it should be fine but otherwise 2 loads of libraries are loaded
[11:27] <rek> i told u my machine crashes without that driver ikonia
[11:27] <ikonia> rek: boot into "recovery mode" in ubuntu and edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the line Driver "nvidia" to Driver "vesa" and we can debug it
[11:27] <apparle> ikonia: Oh.....actually I tried to get the universe component from archive.ubuntu.com.........I can't get universe lists from in.archive.ubuntu.com,archive.ubuntu.com,us.archive.ubuntu.com.........tried all of them
[11:27] <frogzoo1> Doc-Saintly: I'd say most
[11:27] <the_madman> 1. the firefox-3.5 package actually installs an unbranded version called, "shiretoko". I wouldn't have a problem with this, but Facebook doesn't recognize it.
[11:27] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:27] <unimatrix> twright, so it's gonna use more ram, but is't not like it's going to be doing any converting or anything right?
[11:27] <ikonia> apparle: can you please try to ping it
[11:27] <rek> ikonia, good idea
[11:28] <rek> ikonia, what will happen if i use vesa?
[11:28] <TruthLiker> Is there a way to use the old commandline ftp to get a while directory with all subs ?
[11:28] <diy> kann wer mir helfen mit meiner grafik karte
[11:28] <apparle> ikonia: Actaully I am behind a proxy....so I know ping will not work
[11:28] <ikonia> rek: your performance will be downgraded but it will be stable for debugging
[11:29] <ikonia> !de > diy
[11:29] <ikonia> apparle: then I suggest the problem is with your proxy
[11:29] <ikonia> apparle: try telneting to port 80 on the arhive
[11:29] <rek> cool cool... i'll give it a try
[11:29] <ikonia> archive
[11:29] <Subdolus> TruthLiker: wget?
[11:29] <the_madman> 2. Abrowser-3.5 is, again, unbranded as expected, but for some reason it depends on firefox 3.0, which IS actually branded.
[11:29] <the_madman> Is this actually a problem with the packages, or is it likely a problem with my set-up?
[11:29] <rek> however ikonia why don't they fix this stupid problem???
[11:29] <apparle> ikonia: how to do that
[11:29] <ikonia> apparle: telnet $hostname 80
[11:30] <TruthLiker> wget, thats for getting webpages not ?
[11:30] <the_madman> Doc-Saintly: Well, OK, so I guess there ARE only strange anomolies...
[11:30] <rek> i could install debian or dreamlinux though
[11:30] <TruthLiker> I am stuck with manual ftp to get a directory via ftp.
[11:30] <Smooch1502> TruthLiker: wget can be used to download just about anything
[11:30] <ikonia> rek: it's not a stupid problem - it could be a user error, hence why I'm tyring to debug it with you
[11:30] <TruthLiker> can wget connect to a ftp server ?
[11:30] <Subdolus> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=commandline+Recursive+FTP
[11:30] <ikonia> rek: stop ranting about it and lets work it through
[11:30] <Subdolus> Enjoy.
[11:30] <rek> ikonia thx
[11:31] <twright> unimatrix, the best way to find out is by trying in any case
[11:31] <rek> ok ikonia but what user error if 8.04 was perfect???
[11:31] <apparle> ikonia: and which server should I telnet.....
[11:31] <duckx0r> rek, ikonia is just trying to help you
[11:31] <ikonia> apparle: the one that's not working
[11:31] <TruthLiker> oh now, I must close this connection.
[11:31] <ikonia> rek: STOP telling me about other situations, lets debug it - or not
[11:32] <maniel> hi
[11:32] <Smooch1502> rek: Please tell us in full
[11:32] <rek> ok ikonia  good idea
[11:32] <rek> what in full Smooch1502 =
[11:32] <apparle> ikonia: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[11:32] <maniel> is there any way to setup ipv6 tunnel via tunnel broker in networkmanager?
[11:33] <ikonia> apparle: ok - so either that host is down (which it doens't look like it is) or you're network/proxy is a problem
[11:33] <Smooch1502> rek: i mean like explain more information about your problem as everyone on this channel is just trying to help
[11:34] <unimatrix> twright, ok you're right, scrolling in amarok isn't any better; guess i have to install KDE
[11:37] <Smooch1502> sorry for asking this but if you see this please say so as i think my internet connection just broke
[11:37] <bazhang> Smooch1502, you're ok
[11:37] <Smooch1502> bazhang: ok just hardly anyone is talking
[11:38] <kandjar`> so
[11:38] <argos_> hi
[11:38] <Smooch1502> lol
[11:39] <Jorsher> has anyone here set up wtorrent/rtorrent for multiple users?
[11:39] <rek> the problem is even if u install propietary drivers for my nvidia gts 2 you don't see anything in nsystem administration...
[11:39] <Smooch1502> rek: have you tried restarting your computer?
[11:39] <rek> of course!!
[11:39] <ikonia> rek: I've told you what to do
[11:40] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:40] <brijith> Is any one interested in talking about windows games in ubuntu
[11:40] <rek> are u debugging ikonia
[11:40] <Doc-Saintly> .win close
[11:40] <rek> debug debug
[11:40] <TruthLiker> Hello .
[11:40] <duckx0r> rek, did you use the vesa driver?
[11:40] <rek> no
[11:40] <rek> must install ubuntu first
[11:40] <TruthLiker> I see wget can get via ftp, however how can I get it to log in ? Its not an anonymous retrieval.
[11:41] <Smooch1502> rek: when we say debug usualy someone will tell you to try a command etc and you need to send us the output
[11:41] <rek> i was angry so i unistalled it
[11:41] <twright> unimatix, or you could try some other gnome options
[11:41] <duckx0r> rek, we were trying to help you
[11:41] <Smooch1502> rek: so you have uninstalled (Reformated) and now just have windows? im confused?
[11:41] <rek> ah
[11:42] <minche> please, can anyone tell me how to get rid of this "null output" pulseaudio
[11:42] <rek> yep now i have win xp
[11:42] <twright> unimatrix, banshee is quite good but not completely lagless
[11:42] <rek> but i need to open the parallel port i need ubuntu
[11:42] <Smooch1502> minche: Everyone here is trying to help, please do not repeat your question so often, if anyone finds an answer he/she will tell you
[11:42] <bazhang> rek, without an installation there is no way to troubleshoot
[11:42] <rek> i know
[11:42] <unimatrix> twright, banshee eats up too much CPU just to run
[11:42] <rek> hello bazhang u are always here to help?
[11:43] <minche> yeah, but i come here day after day and still no help
[11:43] <bazhang> rek, if you wish to get support here you should have an installation.
[11:43] <rek> but what did they change between 8.04 and 9.04
[11:43] <Smooch1502> rek: did you have the problem then you uninstalled ubuntu?
[11:43] <ikonia> rek: stop now
[11:43] <rek> no...
[11:43] <Smooch1502> minche: have you tried the forums? at http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[11:43] <ikonia> rek: I've explained how to to debug this and take it forward
[11:43] <rek> ikonia, what stop why?
[11:43] <nik_> Let's talk about girls. ^^
[11:43] <ikonia> rek: if you don't chose to do that - stop discussing it and ranting about it
[11:43] <rek> i will do it
[11:44] <duckx0r> minche, why do you need to disable it?
[11:44] <bazhang> nik_, wrong channel
[11:44] <Smooch1502> rek try the forums also
[11:44] <rek> i'm not ranting i'm explaining
[11:44] <Smooch1502> if no one can help on here then you may get a response on the forums
[11:44] <ikonia> rek: no, I assure you, you won't. We can help you debug this is you want to work it through, but stop saying the same thing over and over again
[11:44] <Subdolus> NOISES
[11:44] <minche> diasble what?
[11:44] <nik_> ok, ok )) I,m jst kidding.
[11:44] <Subdolus> rahhh
[11:44] <rek> no..i'm working hard
[11:44] <minche> i tried eevrything
[11:45] <ikonia> rek: then we can't help if you don't want to debug it at this time
[11:45] <minche> adding user to the group, adding those lines at the end of pulse-audio.conf...
[11:45] <SeaOrifice> Does ubuntu support a dailup connection ?
[11:45] <SeaOrifice> oops dial up
[11:45] <ikonia> SeaOrifice: it does if your modem is supported
[11:45] <Smooch1502> SeaOrifce: the support is low but some modems are supported
[11:45] <rek> i must install ubuntu first!!!
[11:45] <Smooch1502> rek: Re install ubuntu then we can help you
[11:45] <ikonia> rek: ok, then we can't debug it
[11:45] <bazhang> rek, then do so, and come back when you have it
[11:46] <rek> karmic or jaunty?
[11:46] <Smooch1502> rek: Jaunty
[11:46] <ikonia> rek: jaunty is supported
[11:46] <bazhang> rek, jaunty as karmic is not released.
[11:46] <rek> i have karmic on a cd lol
[11:46] <ikonia> rek: that is not supported
[11:47] <Smooch1502> rek: Karmic is in beta and i strongly suggest not to use it unless you know how to fix problems if anything goes wrong
[11:47] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:47] <Dan48p> you guys ever reinstalled windows in a dual boot system without disrupting the linux side?
[11:47] <rek> is i change DE i'm not able to automount for example an usb why ?
[11:47] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: Yes
[11:47] <ikonia> rek: install ubuntu and we can help you debug
[11:48] <duckx0r> Dan48p, windows overwrites your MBR so you have to reinstall grub, but it's not too difficult to do that from a live cd
[11:48] <rek> ubuntu is meant to run with gnome
[11:48] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm
[11:48] <ikonia> rek: it does
[11:48] <Guest97548> could anyone recommend anywhere to find learning material on linux for those who are interested in learning more skills aimed at becoming a unix/linux professional?
[11:48] <rek> if i use kde or fluxbox i have automunt issues why
[11:48] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: any tricks?  i have a vista partition and a recovery partition that i can use to reinstall a diff version of windows
[11:48] <ikonia> Guest97548: that's offtopic for this channel, there are pleanty of resource issues on the web
[11:48] <ikonia> rek: install ubuntu and we can help you debug it
[11:48] <leaf-sheep> Guest97548: For starters, stick with Ubuntu and Google "Ubuntu Pocket Book"
[11:48] <Guest97548> ikonia: any hints on where to look?
[11:49] <leaf-sheep> Guest97548: It's free and available on PDF.
[11:49] <ikonia> Guest97548: the internet - it's offtopic for this channel
[11:49] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: do want to install ubuntu and vista again? side by side
[11:49] <rek> i'm talking about my secon issue
[11:49] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: didn't mean to hit return.  those are the partitions i would like to rewrite, but leave the ubuntu where its at
[11:49] <ikonia> rek: yes, but we can't debug without information and you don't have ubuntu installed
[11:49] <Guest97548> thx
[11:49] <rek> ok
[11:49] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: so you have ubuntu and vista already installed?
[11:49] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: yes
[11:50] <rek> i have only a few second to change that value though
[11:50] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: at the grub prompt can you boot into windows vista?
[11:50] <duckx0r> Dan48p, you can try gparted if you want to repartition/format or whatever if that's what you mean
[11:50] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[11:50] <rek> then my pc will crash and i must press the reset button
[11:50] <ikonia> rek: I've told you what to do to stop that
[11:50] <Guest97548> how can i tell what graphics drivers im using
[11:50] <rek> i'm explaying u my issue
[11:50] <erUSUL> Guest97548: look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:50] <ikonia> rek: yes, and I've told you what to do to stop that
[11:50] <duckx0r> rek, you've explained it at least 6-7 times now
[11:50] <rek> ok
[11:50] <Smooch1502> rek: please stop and install ubuntu again if not already installed
[11:51] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: i can boot into vista if i change the bios from ide mode to the other option
[11:51] <Dan48p> achi or ahci?
[11:51] <erUSUL> ahci
[11:51] <ivenkys> gents - i am attempting to install Ubuntu's font libraries - does anyone know if the bytecode interpreter in the freetype library is enabled or disabled in Ubuntu
[11:51] <ikonia> ivenkys: I think it's enabled
[11:51] <ikonia> ivenkys: not %100 though
[11:52] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: Sorry but i cannot help with this however if you wanted to re install and overright the windows partition the use gparted or just reinstall vista from the install disc?
[11:52] <ivenkys> ikonia: hmm - thanks -
[11:52] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: basically i want to install windows 7 on the vista partition
[11:52] <duckx0r> Dan48p, use gparted to format that partition then and just install it like normal
[11:53] <duckx0r> Dan48p, make sure you select the correct partition
[11:53] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: not the rc, the oem copy i guess... what they have at msdnaa
[11:53] <erUSUL> Dan48p: we can not help installing a windows OS. ask in ##windows
[11:53] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: Ok well insert the iso you burnt with windows 7 and install that on the vista partition however you will loose whats on that partition
[11:53] <Guest97548> wow that file is full of info. im on radeon and i want to know if im using fglrx or the open source driver, how can i tell?
[11:53] <blip-> hi all,  I just installed 9.04 and then went on to look for skype in the repos... I installed something called Skype-MID...  it looks very strange as if it's made for some touchscreen platform.  Are we desktop users meant to use this ?   or install the normal version from skype.com  ?     thanks
[11:53] <Preben> hi guys, does anyone know how to autostart programs on diffrent workspaces? Like Firefox on workspace 2 and terminal on workspace 3
[11:53] <twright> Guest97548, check the command glxinfo
[11:53] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: i'm not really concerned about the vista partition really... i just want to make sure that i don't do anything to damage the linux partitions
[11:54] <duckx0r> Guest97548, type fglrxinfo in a terminal
[11:54] <twright> what is the sgi vender string?
[11:54] <Smooch1502> Dan48p Or use virtualbox and just install windows 7 on that, sorry but i cannot help with windows as this is a ubuntu channel
[11:54] <Dan48p> Smooch1502: ok
[11:54] <rek> are u sure if i use vesa it will work?
[11:54] <rek> and what resolution?
[11:54] <leaf-sheep> Preben: devilspie
[11:54] <Smooch1502> Dan48p: i suggest virtualbox with windows 7 as windows 7 is still in rc and may contain bugs or wreck your system
[11:54] <erUSUL> blip-: skype is aviable in medibuntu
[11:54] <erUSUL> !medibuntu > blip-
[11:55] <Guest97548> duckx0r: it says its not installed
[11:55] <Preben> leaf-sheep thank you
[11:55] <dvrcoder> hi all
[11:55] <Guest97548> i guess that means im on the open source driver then?
[11:55] <ikonia> rek: it will down grade your graphics ability but should also a usable platform for debugging
[11:55] <ManDay> "linux-generic" "linux-image-..." "linux-368" "linux-image-2.6.28" <------ which of these kernels should i pick when installing ubuntu?!?
[11:55] <leaf-sheep> !skype > blip-
[11:55] <blip-> erUSUL: ah ok got it.  thanks.   is anything wrong with Skype-Mid btw ?
[11:55] <twright> Smooch1502, everyone recommends vbox too much particularly seeing as most people use windows for gaming
[11:55] <erUSUL> ManDay: linux-image or linux-generic
[11:55] <ikonia> ManDay: they are all the same
[11:55] <duckx0r> Guest97548, looks like it
[11:55] <erUSUL> blip-: dunno; do not use either of them
[11:55] <rek> is that called xvesa? no no but i know i have to use it
[11:56] <ManDay> what is the difference erUSUL ?
[11:56] <rek> for example in puppy it worked
[11:56] <ikonia> rek: no - it's called vesa as I have said to you 3 times now
[11:56] <ferdek> http://85.14.80.241
[11:56] <Smooch1502> twight: i use my older computer for these type of problems
[11:56] <ManDay> ikonia, why would they offer the same kernel by a dozen names?
[11:56] <minche> and when i rund aplay -s i get "no soundcards found..."
[11:56] <rek> how can i use xvesa?
[11:56] <Guest97548> duckx0r: but wasnt ati supposed to have released a new closed driver for the later radeon cards? how can i try out that one?
[11:56] <dvrcoder> i have a problem: during upgrade from gutsy to hardy the dpkg-configure can't finish its work because gettext-pl is missing
[11:56] <twright> Smooch1502, much easier to dual boot (Win7 is less likely to hose a system than vista in any case)
[11:56] <ikonia> ferret_: what is that called
[11:56] <ikonia> rek: use vesa !
[11:56] <duckx0r> Guest97548, type "radeon driver linux" into google
[11:56] <ikonia> ferret_: sorry
[11:56] <rek> ok but if i don't want xorg
[11:56] <erUSUL> ManDay: none as ikonia points-out. but those are the metapackages that will point allways to the last relesed kernel and avoid cluttering the grub menu
[11:56] <dvrcoder> dpkg-gettext.pl
[11:56] <rek> how can i use xvesa?
[11:56] <Smooch1502> twight: Yes i guess but he wanted to make sure he didnt loose anything
[11:57] <dvrcoder> can i fix this?
[11:57] <ikonia> rek: enough now I am starting to think you are trolling
[11:57] <ikonia> rek: if you want to debug your problem, follow instructions and we'll work it through
[11:57] <rek> ikonia stop i've asked a question
[11:57] <ikonia> rek: you need to install ubuntu
[11:57] <Smooch1502> rek: Be nice as all users are just trying to help, they are volunteers
[11:58] <rek> and then? they said me to install tinyx  be kind...also you should be kind
[11:58] <ikonia> rek: you are changing your problem - if you want to debug it, we can help
[11:58] <Smooch1502> rek: follow these steps: install ubuntu first without this we cannot help
[11:58] <rek> ok but i have not only one problem i have 2 problem
[11:58] <ngage> hi when i start ubunti i saw this boot message:  chown: invalid group root:polkituser   what that message meen
[11:59] <ikonia> rek: yes, but you still need to install ubuntu, and as you say it's unsable, you still need to use the vesa xorg driver - so do it
[11:59] <Smooch1502> rek: then follow the steps once installed that ikonia tells you
[11:59] <leaf-sheep> rek: We don't care if you have 99 problems.  Install Ubuntu first.
[11:59] <Smooch1502> rek: we cant help you if you dont have ubuntu installed first
[11:59] <erUSUL> ngage: using 9.10 karmic ?
[11:59] <ikonia> ngage: it means your policy kit user doesn't exist
[11:59] <rek> ok ...recovery mode is only with terminal?
[11:59] <ikonia> rek: yes
[12:00] <rek> i must do sudo gedit /etc/
[12:00] <ngage> ikonia: xubuntu 8.04.3 ,how do i create policy kit?
[12:00] <erUSUL> rek: yes. it shows a menu with a few options (repair X; and drop to a root shell among them)
[12:00] <ikonia> ngage: don't worry about it - it's just a warning
[12:00] <ikonia> rek: you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as I've told you multiple times
[12:00] <rek> X11/xorg.conf
[12:00] <ngage> i know it is warrning i had no problems
[12:00] <ikonia> rek: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <Smooch1502> rek: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <duckx0r> rek, gedit is a GUI program. you will need to use a command line program like nano
[12:01] <rek> will i have nano?
[12:01] <duckx0r> rek yes
[12:01] <ikonia> nano will work fine
[12:01] <Smooch1502> rek: as duck said use sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:01] <rek> by default?
[12:01] <mrwes> Smooch1502, gksu gedit is preferred
[12:01] <rek> how can i save it then?
[12:01] <ikonia> rek: by default ??? what are you talking about, it's a text editor
[12:01] <ikonia> rek: use a text editor you know how to use
[12:02] <rek> sorry but i'm used to leafpad and gedit
[12:02] <duckx0r> mrwes, we're talking about command line here
[12:02] <Smooch1502> mrwes: Thanks for the tip but he is in recovery mode i think so he cannot open a gui program
[12:02] <rek> how can i save changes in nano?
[12:02] <mrwes> Smooch1502, so why are you telling him to use gedit ? duh
[12:02] <racha> I need help with pulseaudio :) i cant get my Jack's to work Same on Windows and Ubuntu ... http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[12:03] <twright> rek, control + X
[12:03] <erUSUL> rek: crtl + O then crtl + x to exit
[12:03] <rek> thx
[12:03] <Smooch1502> mrwes: lol that was a mistake, i didnt know if he was using the recovery mode before
 rek: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:03] <rek> ;-)
[12:03] <duckx0r> rek, more than likely when you reinstall ubuntu it is just going to work for you right out of the box without even having to worry about this, so why not just install it and if it doesn't work, come back here?
[12:03] <erUSUL> rek: there is help in the botton of the editor
[12:03] <dvrcoder> can anyone tell me where dpkg-gettext.pl is supposed to be in the old distributions where it still existed?
[12:03] <mrwes> I'm fully aware how to edit from the command line
[12:04] <twright> dvrcoder, try locate dpkg-gettext.pl
[12:04] <twright> dvrcoder, you might need to try sudo update-db first
[12:05] <mrwes> rek, nano gives you the basic commands at the bottom of the screen
[12:05] <rek> thx
[12:05] <dvrcoder> ok, i just found the dpkg-gettext.pl on another machine, I will copy it over
[12:06] <Smooch1502> rek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Nano
[12:06] <duckx0r> dvrcoder, just a question, why do you need it?
[12:06] <dvrcoder> upgrade from gutsy to hardy is failing
[12:06] <mrwes> well at least you guys didn't send him into vi :)
[12:07] <Smooch1502> mrwes: Yeah, iv acturly tried both vi and nano and from my experience nano is easyer :)
[12:07] <dvrcoder> because dpkg can't configure the packages because it needs that perl file
[12:07] <jezi22> what is the difference of xubuntu to ubuntu?
[12:07] <mrwes> Smooch1502, exactly
[12:07] <twright> mrwes, whilst vi rocks that would have just been painful :-)
[12:07] <prince_jammys> jezi22: ubuntu uses the gnome desktop. xubuntu uses xfce
[12:07] <mrwes> !xfce | jezi22
[12:08] <dabukalam> jezi22: xubuntu uses xfce instead of gnome, and is a lot less demanding, so can be used on lower spec computers
[12:08] <Smooch1502> jezi22: Xubuntu is a smaller or in other words just different interface that will work faster on older computers :)
[12:08] <erUSUL> dvrcoder: maybe this can help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=466947
[12:08] <jezi22> ow.. thanks.. :D
[12:08] <aaron113> does anyone know which addon to get to read pgp mails on thunderbird
[12:08] <dvrcoder> would do-release-upgrade do anything else after configuring the packages?
[12:08] <Smooch1502> we both said pretty much the same thing
[12:08] <erUSUL> dvrcoder: they advice to copy it from the livecd....
[12:08] <erUSUL> aaron113: enigmail ?
[12:08] <dabukalam> Smooch1502: but i said it first :D:P
[12:09] <Smooch1502> dabukalam: Yeah i know but i was acturly typing it and just about to press enter but you said that just a second difference lol
[12:09] <dabukalam> Smooch1502: excuses, excuses xD
[12:10] <Smooch1502> dabukalam: Ok lol
[12:10] <dabukalam> Smooch1502: :P
[12:10] <aaron113> erUSUL: no its an older version i have the new version
[12:10] <erUSUL> aaron113: old version of what ?
[12:10] <hacktop> what apt-get command is used to get gnome?
[12:10] <aaron113> erUSUL: i have the brand new thunder bird and the add on is old
[12:11] <pale> can anyone help me with compileing launchy from svn, i get error but what i see this error isn't because dependency, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/d3232125d
[12:11] <aaron113> erUSUL: :(
[12:11] <dabukalam> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop i think
[12:11] <dabukalam> or no wait gnome-window-manager?
[12:11] <dabukalam> what let me check
[12:11] <prince_jammys> hacktop: the most common is ubuntu-desktop package.
[12:11] <aaron113> dabukalam: who u talking to
[12:11] <hacktop> both
[12:11] <dabukalam> myself :D no hacktop
[12:11] <erUSUL> aaron113: well then you are out of luck... just keep using a version of TB compatible with enigmail
[12:12] <aaron113> erUSUL: i wanted to sign the code of conduct
[12:12] <hacktop> I'm converting backtrack 4 (kde) into gnome
[12:12] <dabukalam> !code
[12:12] <dabukalam> !conduct
[12:12] <erUSUL> aaron113: you can do it from cli you do not need a mail client
[12:12] <aaron113> erUSUL: whats a ci?
[12:13] <dabukalam> aaron113: command line interface - cli
[12:13] <erUSUL> aaron113: terminal
[12:13] <pale> can anyone help me with compileing launchy from svn, i get error, but what i see this error isn't because dependency, please take a look at http://pastebin.com/d3232125d
[12:13] <mrwes> pale, ./configure was clean?
[12:13] <aaron113> erUSUL: what comands
[12:14] <pale> i dint run confugure
[12:14] <pale> mrwes, program doesnt have ./configure
[12:14] <hacktop> How do I fix this error?** (nautilus:29523): WARNING **: Unable to add monitor: Not supported
[12:14] <mrwes> pale, most svn has autogen.sh then ./configure
[12:14] <pale> mrwes, in install how to it installs only with make and make install
[12:15] <mrwes> pale, oh...shrug
[12:15] <erUSUL> aaron113: gpg --clearsing file_with_the_CoC.txt
[12:15] <pale> could you tray it
[12:15] <duckx0r> good night all
[12:15] <Smooch1502> !pastebin
[12:15] <pale> mrwes, could you try to install it
[12:15] <dvrcoder> would do-release-upgrade do anything else after configuring the packages?
[12:16] <erUSUL> dvrcoder: if your upgrade was interrupted i woud do ┬½ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ┬╗ then ┬½ sudo dpgk-reconfigure -a ┬╗
[12:17] <mrwes> pale, nah...have you tried GNOME-Do?
[12:17] <pale> yes, but he inst like launchy
[12:17] <pale> launchy is far way better
[12:17] <erUSUL> aaron113: you must have a signing key of course
[12:18] <dvrcoder> erUSUL: thx, i'll do that
[12:18] <twright> pale, both are good
[12:18] <aaron113> erUSUL: gpg: Invalid option "--clearsing"
[12:19] <erUSUL> aaron113: is --clearsign
[12:19] <Smooch1502> Does this channel ever get busy?
[12:19] <erUSUL> aaron113: typo sorry
[12:19] <grawity> Smooch1502: It's busy already :)
[12:19] <kinasbg> lol
[12:19] <Smooch1502> grawity: :) still not many people are talking lol
[12:19] <grawity> Anyway. I'm on Intrepid (don't ask why), and I want irssi-0.8.14. The ./configure script can't find GLIB >= 2.6.0. What do I need to install?
[12:19] <Sidewinder1> Smooch1502>Had a "Net-Split" a few days ago.
[12:19] <kinasbg> Sombary Portuguese??
[12:19] <twright> Smooch1502, hopefully the plans to spit it up should help
[12:20] <Smooch1502> twight: huh do you mean split lol?
[12:20] <twright> Smooch1502, yep - did you mean twright?
[12:20] <aaron113> erUSUL: same thing happend
[12:21] <Logo2> I'm back
[12:21] <Smooch1502> twright: Yeah :( im tired might go to bed soon, anyway im going to stop talking about this its kind of going off topic
[12:21] <twright> grawity, have you tried sudo aptitude  build-dep irssi
[12:21] <grawity> Smooch1502: Most IRC networks, including Freenode, are made of many separate IRC servers.
[12:21] <grawity> twright: Yep. E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[12:21] <erUSUL> aaron113: just copy and paste ┬½ gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt ┬╗ (this command worksw if the file UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt is in the same folder as you are )
[12:21] <grawity> Smooch1502: Sometimes the network splits in half (connection problems, or something like that)
[12:21] <Logo2> I tried renaming all the directories, none of them fixed the problem.
[12:21] <Smooch1502> grawity: yeah lol
[12:22] <twright> grawity, you should try going into software sources
[12:22] <dabukalam> anyone know why i get a grey box with a big play thing with all applets in firefox? i don't want to have to click on every applet every time before it loads, i just want it to automatically load...
[12:22] <grawity> twright: It happens to be a VPS without GUI.
[12:22] <twright> oh
[12:22] <grawity> twright: Anyway, it seems to work now.
[12:22] <twright> grawity, ah good
[12:22] <Smooch1502> smooch1502: !rules
[12:22]  * grawity edited sources.list but forgot to apt-get update :|
[12:23] <erUSUL> grawity: you have build-essential ?
[12:23] <dabukalam> !rules | Smooch1502
[12:23] <erUSUL> aaron113: the command gnerates a file UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc that you have to paste into the page in launchpad iirc
[12:24] <Smooch1502> dabukalam: lol
[12:24] <dabukalam> !lol | Smooch1502
[12:24] <aaron113> erUSUL: didnt work
[12:24] <aaron113> erUSUL: post the comand again
[12:24] <dabukalam> :P
[12:24] <Smooch1502> ok
[12:24] <erUSUL> aaron113: error msg ?
[12:24] <erUSUL> aaron113: just copy and paste ┬½ gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt ┬╗ (this command worksw if the file UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt is in the same folder as you are )
[12:25] <mitnick> have a nice day. :)
[12:25] <Smooch1502> :)
[12:25] <geirha> grawity: libglib2.0-dev
[12:25] <dabukalam> !happiness
[12:25] <Smooch1502> !ubottu
[12:25] <dabukalam> he's not THAT stupid xD
[12:26] <Smooch1502> whats mode #ubuntu +e by floodbot1
[12:26] <dabukalam> !dabukalam
[12:26] <dabukalam> OUTRAGEOUS!
[12:26] <aaron113> erUSUL: gpg: can't open `UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt': No such file or directory
[12:26] <aaron113> gpg: UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt: clearsign failed: file open error
[12:26] <erUSUL> Smooch1502: +e is a exception
[12:26] <dabukalam> anyone know why i get a grey box with a big play thing with all applets in firefox? i don't want to have to click on every applet every time before it loads, i just want it to automatically load...
[12:26] <Smooch1502> erUSUL: what do you mean?
[12:26] <dabukalam> !repeat | dabukalam
[12:27] <erUSUL> aaron113: is the file in the folder you are ? where did you dled the code of conduct?
[12:27] <aaron113> dabukalam: why u do that
[12:28] <aaron113> erUSUL: i never did dled
[12:28] <Smooch1502> is it possible to install ubuntu server along side ubuntu desktop + windows xp? as a dualboot
[12:28] <grawity> Smooch1502: Why do you want both Desktop and Server?
[12:28] <diogo_79> i you need windows xp
[12:28] <erUSUL> aaron113: you have to dl it if you want to sing it
[12:28] <aaron113> the code of conduct
[12:28] <jrib> Smooch1502: possible yes, but probably also pointless.  Just install the server applications on your desktop ubuntu
[12:28] <Smooch1502> grawity: i need it to have ubuntu desktop and server
[12:28] <erUSUL> aaron113: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1 <<< here
[12:28] <aaron113> erUSUL: sing it?lol:D
[12:29] <erUSUL> aaron113: yes
[12:29] <aaron113> sing
[12:29] <erUSUL> aaron113: you know english is not my mother tongue ;)
[12:29] <aaron113> erUSUL: u make me laugh!
[12:29] <Smooch1502> grawity: i want it to be in a dualboot as i still need to use the desktop for other uses
[12:29] <Logo2> When I log into my user account I get a blank desktop with a mouse cursor and my wallpaper and that's it. The panels don't appear and alt + F2 doesn't work. By pressing the help button I can get a help window to appear but it is stuck in the upper left hand corner of the screen with no menu or title bars; I can't move it around or resize it. I can still get to the command line via ctrl+alt+F1, and using that I got gnome-panel running wi
[12:30] <jrib> Logo2: does it work fine with a newly created user?
[12:30] <aaron113> erUSUL: i have to download it
[12:30] <Logo2> jrib: It does.
[12:30] <erUSUL> aaron113: yes. cleck in the link Dwonload this version
[12:30] <Smooch1502> i dont think theres a step by step tutorial how to install ubuntu server with other operating systems
[12:30] <jrib> Logo2: you got cut off at "gnome-panel running wi" but this means it's a configuration issue
[12:30] <brijith> frequency out of range message in screen after installing
[12:31] <brijith> qt to do ?
[12:31] <brijith> wt to do ??
[12:31] <erUSUL> brijith: boot into recovery mode... choose repair Xserver in the menu
[12:31] <jrib> Smooch1502: did you see what I said before about there not being much point in having both desktop and server?  Why *exactly* do you want both installed?
[12:31] <ryanakca> How can I have two network interfaces on two seperate networks configured simultaneously? I have wlan0 connected to the WWW and eth0 connected to a Debian box. If eth0 is up, all traffic goes to it, even if it is destined to the WWW (thus, should be using wlan0)
[12:31] <Logo2> ... with some assistance. But even then the window decoration still doesn't appear. If I log in to another account the panels and window decorations do work. Thinking the problem might lie with my settings files I deleted user settings files such as .gnome and .gnome2 to no avail. I also renamed all the hidden directories in /home/rob (rob is my username), one at a time, to see if any of them were causing the problem. None of this broug
[12:31] <erUSUL> aaron113: done ?
[12:31] <aaron113> erUSUL: wait im moving it to my docs
[12:32] <Logo2> jrib: Is that better?
[12:32] <jrib> Logo2: you renamed all of them eventually and still encounter the issue?
[12:32] <Logo2> jrib: Yes.
[12:32] <chunky> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjBoNZ7NoRs
[12:32] <chunky> oops
[12:32] <Smooch1502> jrib: i want the desktop so i can still browse the web etc using gnome but i also want ubuntu server as a dual boot becoz having a server with ubuntu desktop uses to much ram
[12:32] <jrib> Logo2: that's pretty weird...  Does ~/.xsession-errors throw any hints?
[12:32] <dabukalam> anyone know why i get a grey box with a big play thing with all applets in firefox? i don't want to have to click on every applet every time before it loads, i just want it to automatically load...
[12:33] <chriswaterguy> Should I add the canonical repositories? Trying to figure out what's different about them.
[12:33] <Smooch1502> jrib: and i dont have another spare computer to have ubuntu server on
[12:33] <beans43> ubuntu tells me my greeter crashed. is that a security problem?
[12:33] <vavar> how can i test if a serial port really works?
[12:33] <aaron113> yes
[12:33] <beans43> where can i check error-log?
[12:33] <aaron113> erUSUL: done
[12:33] <erUSUL> aaron113: where did you saved the file ?
[12:33] <jrib> Smooch1502: but what's the point of a server that's almost never on... If you actually want to do this, it is trivial: just put in the disk and install the server on a new partition.  But I don't see the point.  Just disable gdm by default and any other services that bother you on the desktop
[12:33] <ZOO0828> hi guys, any idea where ubuntu's config files are located for the user selected "windows manager" or say the session manager config files ?
[12:34] <aaron113> /home/aaronvarghese/Documents
[12:34] <Smooch1502> jrib: correct but i still want it dual boot with desktop and server
[12:34] <jrib> ZOO0828: probably in gconf...
[12:34] <erUSUL> aaron113: ok do ┬½ cd ~/Documents ┬╗ and repeat the command
[12:34] <jrib> Smooch1502: fine, then just install it to a new partition
[12:35] <badnerd18> hey guys
[12:35] <vavar> is there a command that cleans and removes off old unused kernel versions and the corresponding modules, restricted and so on?
[12:35] <ZOO0828> jrib:  what if the default WM is KDE ?
[12:35] <brijith> how can i recover boot loader after windows installation
[12:35] <aaron113> erUSUL: i have to do cd ~/Documents
[12:35] <jrib> ZOO0828: try #kubuntu
[12:35] <grawity> KDE is not a WM.
[12:35] <aaron113> erUSUL: two times
[12:35] <Smooch1502> jrib: ok thanks for your help
[12:35] <jrib> !grub > brijith
[12:35] <Logo2> jrib: Not to me, but you're welcome to take a look at 'em if you want: http://privatepaste.com/470NNSL3Qi
[12:35] <erUSUL> aaron113: one time is enough
[12:35] <aaron113> mmh ok
[12:35] <badnerd18> hey guys i need help with john the ripper
[12:35] <erUSUL> aaron113: repeat the gpg --clear... command
[12:35] <jrib> Smooch1502: if you use the grub from the last install it should automatically detect the other ubuntu install.  If not, just look up grub chainloading
[12:36] <ZOO0828> grawity :   oh,  that I didn't know, :)
[12:36] <aaron113> then
[12:36] <jrib> !ask | badnerd18
[12:36] <Smooch1502> jrib: ok
[12:36] <aaron113> erUSUL: repeat that comand again please
[12:36] <dabukalam> brijith: use testdisk
[12:36] <badnerd18> ubottu how can i crack a password in john the ripper it says : no such file or directory
[12:36] <dabukalam> !grub
[12:36] <jrib> Logo2: hmm, what does ┬½ groups ┬╗ return?
[12:37] <erUSUL> aaron113: :| writte it down or copy it somewhere please ?
[12:37] <Logo2> jrib: What do you mean? What is << Groups >> ?
[12:37] <twright> badnerd18, if the password is good it is very hard to crack
[12:37] <erUSUL> aaron113: ┬½ gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt ┬╗
[12:37] <ZOO0828> actually, I am looking for the detail documents to explain how the ubuntu boot up process, especially how GDM/KDM taking over the control and load up the X.  also taking user selected WM into consideration
[12:37] <twright> badnerd18, what sort of password do you want to bypass
[12:37] <jrib> Logo2: I just enclose commands in ┬½┬╗.  By ┬½ groups ┬╗, I mean go to a terminal and run the "groups" command
[12:37] <Smooch1502> !password > smooch1502
[12:37] <badnerd18> Twigathy its a DES hash  ! do u have any idea?
[12:37] <aaron113> erUSUL: i did it now...
[12:38] <Logo2> jrib: I'm to do this from the problematic account, right?
[12:38] <jrib> Logo2: right
[12:38] <Logo2> OK brb
[12:38] <jrib> Logo2: just ┬½ su - problemaccount ┬╗ in a new tty
[12:38] <badnerd18> when it come to cracking passwords i suck  ...
[12:38] <jrib> Logo2: erm, just login in fact
[12:39] <aaron113> erUSUL: i did it now...
[12:39] <twright> badnerd18, do they have an Irc channel
[12:39] <badnerd18> Twigathy i don't think so
[12:39] <grawity> Ubuntu Server question. locale-gen en_US only creates en_US.ISO-8859-1. How can I get en_US.UTF8?
[12:39] <erUSUL> !yay | aaron113
[12:39]  * Twigathy bops badnerd18 
[12:39] <twright> badnerd18, or a newsgroup for john the ripper
[12:39] <ZOO0828> anyone can point me the right direction?   for the detail documents to explain how the ubuntu boot up process, especially how GDM/KDM taking over the control and load up the X. also taking user selected WM into consideration
[12:39] <aaron113> erUSUL: there was a ubottu comand like that? :D
[12:40] <jrib> !locales | grawity
[12:40] <erUSUL> !botsnack
[12:40] <badnerd18> Twigathy have u used john the ripper before ?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis_Arch> ZOO0828:  gdm/kdm just launch as one of the last services - nothing really special about that,
[12:40] <Twigathy> badnerd18: no
[12:40] <amites> How can I set a custom name for a symbolic link to a folder  ex: I want to setup /a/b to link to /c/d/e/f  when I do ln -s /c/d/e/f /a/b the link is /a/b/f
[12:40] <badnerd18> ok:Q
[12:40] <grawity> aaron113: They're called factoids, and there's really a lot of them. Try !bot > aaron113
[12:40] <Twigathy> badnerd18: but I hear it's a pretty braindead tool... >_<
[12:40] <aaron113> !bot > aaron11
[12:41] <Dr_Willis_Arch> ZOO0828:  gdm/kdm look for various 'Whatever.desktop' files to define what 'sessions' they show in their session menu - look for gnome.desktop for an example of such a file.
[12:41] <Twigathy> badnerd18: read http://www.openwall.com/john/doc/
[12:41] <geirha> grawity: man localedef
[12:41] <grawity> jrib: Hmm. Intrepid doesn't have localeconf.
[12:41] <badnerd18> ok Twigathy thnx
[12:41] <Logo2> jrib: "rob adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[12:41] <jrib> grawity: at least my hardy server has en_us utf-8 by default
[12:41] <jrib> Logo2: you need to add yourself to all those pulse groups.  Run the same command with the working user and compare
[12:42] <grawity> jrib: Well, 'locale-gen en_US.utf-8' doesn't work, just fails quietly.
[12:42] <Logo2> jrib: Add myself?
[12:43] <jrib> Logo2: yeah, first paste the output of ┬½ groups workinguser ┬╗
[12:44] <Logo2> jrib: By workinguser you mean the account I'm logged in on now, right?
[12:44] <aaron113> erUSUL: can you also help with this problem i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through
[12:44] <jrib> Logo2: yeah, the one where you don't have the problem
[12:44] <knuut> hi i need help with my gnome-panel in ubuntu jaunty! it doesnt start automatically, instead i get an error message saying that the registration of the panel failes at the bonobo-activation-server. Anybody knows how to solve this?
[12:45] <Logo2> That outputs "administrator" (the account I'm logged in on).
[12:45] <Logo2> jrib: How do I add myself to those other groups?
[12:45] <om26er> how can i use .patch file
[12:45] <twright> hi knuut, I suggest you try deleting your configuration file from the panel
[12:45] <aaron113> erUSUL: can you help
[12:45] <knuut> twright: where do i find it?
[12:45] <jrib> om26er: with the patch command.  It's man page is very readable
[12:46] <Logo2> jrib: Currently it outputs "administrator" (the account I'm logged in on).
[12:46] <aaron113> i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through:'(
[12:46] <jrib> Its
[12:46] <twright> knuut, you need to click view and show hidden files in your home directory
[12:46] <jrib> Logo2: that's the name of the account right?  How did you create it?
[12:46] <om26er> jrib: how
[12:46] <knuut> twright: just delete, or do a backup first?
[12:47] <jrib> om26er: well to read patch's man page, you run ┬½ man patch ┬╗
[12:47] <twright> knuut, try renaming
[12:47] <knuut> k
[12:47] <jrib> om26er: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1237 is also a good introduction
[12:47] <mpgruhlke> is there a craiglist finder for ubuntu ?                                                                                                                         CraigsList Reader
[12:47] <Logo2> jrib: I created it with that adduser command earlier tonight; someone who was helping me earlier suggested it to try to diagnose the problem.
[12:47] <heogen> hi, anyone can help me, I got a problem with the picture when a open the internet page it is not open
[12:47] <jrib> Logo2: the output should be more than just "administratior" in that case
[12:47] <vavar> is there some kind of established facility in ubuntu to clean up specified old kernels or is it left to oneself to search and clean up?
[12:48] <brijith> hai every one ... I would like to learn embedded programming in linux ....
[12:48] <twright> knuut, all of your preferences are saved in files with . in front so don't delete anything you want to keep
[12:48] <Logo2> jrib: Well... it's not.
[12:48] <brijith> my profile is ,, Python programer
[12:48] <jeromel> hi all
[12:48] <jrib> Logo2: what version of ubuntu?
[12:48] <rek> damn i don't find a cd
[12:48] <heogen> what program I should to install?
[12:48] <Logo2> jrib: The latest one, I think? 9.04?
[12:48] <mpgruhlke> latest version
[12:48] <bazhang> rek, which version
[12:49] <rek> cd rw
[12:49] <jeromel> does anyone can help me with ati drivers to use compiz ?
[12:49] <jrib> !version | Logo2
[12:49] <vavar> brijith: what do you want to develop? which platform? arch? what do you have tried alread? what do you want to learn now?
[12:49] <aaron113> i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through:'(
[12:49] <aaron113> i have a x11vnc connection right now but when ever i want to clickor use the keybord the typing nor thae clicking doesnt get through:'(
[12:49] <aaron113> heloooo
[12:49] <FloodBot1> aaron113: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <bazhang> rek, then use a usb stick and unetbootin
[12:49] <user__> dom
[12:49] <knuut> twright: do u know the exact name and location of the config file?
[12:49] <bazhang> aaron113, once is enough
[12:49] <knuut> canf find it
[12:49] <twright> jeromel, I might be able to help - what is your problem
[12:49] <rek> cd burner xp doesn't delete my cd
[12:49] <rek> is that possible?
[12:49] <user__> dom
[12:49] <heogen> when I open my email in box I can see any picture
[12:49] <bazhang> rek, then get a usb stick as I just said
[12:49] <heogen> how can I see it
[12:49] <rek> 512mb stick or a sd
[12:49] <jeromel> I'd like to use compiz or run videogames
[12:49] <brijith> vavar: I just want to learn the basics
[12:50] <aaron113> bazhang: sorry
[12:50] <jeromel> I can't use proprietary drivers
[12:50] <brijith> vavar: I prefer ubuntu
[12:50] <jeromel> I paste you the error on pastebin
[12:50] <twright> knuut, it should be called panel in .gconf/apps/panel
[12:50] <knuut> aah thanks
[12:50] <twright> knuut, other things might impact it though
[12:51] <knuut> twright, ill give it a try :)
[12:51] <jrib> Logo2: anyway add yourself to the pulse-rt and pulse groups at least (You can do: sudo adduser BROKEN_USER pulse-rt)
[12:51] <Logo2> jrib: "bash: !version: event not found"
[12:51] <vavar> brijith: why?
[12:51] <jrib> Logo2: !version just tells ubottu to say something to you
[12:52] <Logo2> jrib: I don't need to be a superuser to run it, do I?
[12:52] <jrib> Logo2: you do
[12:52] <aaron113> iona my cosin wants to know which class
[12:52] <brijith> vavr: I am really interested in things like controlling devices using computers
[12:52] <aaron113> im kind of busy]
[12:52] <mpgruhlke> hello is there anybody out there that is running   CraigsList Reader on ubuntu ?
[12:52] <Logo2> jrib: Oh, well this account isn't. What do I need to do to make it su?
[12:53] <jrib> Logo2: open a terminal, type "su - BROKEN_USER", then you can use sudo with the broken user
[12:53] <twright> jeromel, if you card is one of those disabled in the new version you could try 8.04 (LTS)
[12:53] <jeromel> is there a list?
[12:53] <brijith> vavar: I am really interested in things like controlling devices using computers, So I need a start in this direction ,,,,
[12:53] <Logo2> jrib: Ok, did that, now what?
[12:54] <jrib> Logo2: you added the user to pulse and pulse-rt?
[12:54] <Logo2> jrib: no, how would I do that?
[12:54] <jeromel> In fact my card is not listed on the ati website.... it is the X1700 and the only driver I found was for linux on the Asus website without any update
[12:54] <jrib> Logo2: adduser USER GROUP
[12:54] <jeromel> not for linux*
[12:55] <twright> jeromel, there might be somewhere but if it is an ati card which does not offer anything in hardware drivers then it is
[12:55] <jeromel> ok
[12:55] <Logo2> jrib: It says "adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system." - Should I "su root"?
[12:55] <twright> jeromel, ati have dropped support for anything older than a year
[12:55] <jeromel> ok
[12:55] <vavar> brijith: that obviously depends on the kind of thing you want to control. it is most likely not related to ubuntu then.
[12:56] <knuut> twright, the %gconf.xml in the "panel" folder?
[12:56] <om26er> jrib: if a program is installed then how to i use patch file to work. it asks for which file to patch
[12:56] <jrib> Logo2: you need to prefix the command with sudo...
[12:56] <jeromel> but I don't understand why my card is not on the list of products. There is X1600 and X1800 but not X1700
[12:56] <brijith> ok
[12:56] <jrib> om26er: you didn't read the article...
[12:56] <Logo2> jrib: ooo
[12:56] <twright> knuut, just delete the folder
[12:56] <jeromel> I think it was a special feature for ASUS
[12:56] <knuut> twright: the whole panel folder... ok
[12:56] <jrib> om26er: anyway, you usually patch source code.  Which means first you need to know how to rebuild packages from source.  Do you know how to do that?
[12:57] <jeromel> where can I see if my card is not supported by 9.04 ?
[12:57] <twright> jeromel, they might just remove ones they no longer support
[12:57] <tstebut> Hello
[12:57] <tstebut>  I'm trying to connect to my android phone with fastboot under my ubuntu hardy dist....
[12:57] <tstebut> But it can't find the device
[12:57] <Logo2> jrib: "adduser pulse" outputs "The user 'pulse' already exists"
[12:57] <Logo2> jrib: OH. Bah
[12:57] <jrib> Logo2: right :)
[12:58] <blip-> how do I get urxvt-tabbed in ubuntu 9.04 ?   I have rxvt-unicode installed but no gtk tabs
[12:58] <jrib> Logo2: also pulse-access: so that's pulse, pulse-rt, and pulse-access
[12:58] <jrib> Logo2: and "audio" as well if you're not in it
[12:59] <tstebut> the sd card is correctly mounted
[12:59] <tstebut> but android sdk can't find the device
[12:59] <tstebut> I didn't find the clue in google
[12:59] <tstebut> except udev configuration that I already done
[12:59] <FloodBot1> tstebut: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <jeromel> twright:  I remember that I succeed to use proprietary version 8.2. But now I can't build the package for jaunty. Can I use them ?
[12:59] <Logo2> jrib: I didn't add the user. nm . OK, it's done.
[12:59] <twright> jeromel, looks like support has been dropped https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/365906
[12:59] <jrib> Logo2: alright, now try logging in with gdm and see if ~/.xsession errors provides new hints or it behaves differently at all
[12:59] <Logo2> jrib: OK
[12:59] <tstebut> Oh sorry, thanks for the link, as I guess I should've red it on the session header
[12:59] <heogen> when I open the Internet page, in my email in-box I can see the picture
[13:00] <twright> jeromel, you will probably break stuff using the old driver
[13:00] <heogen> how can to see the picture?
[13:00] <jeromel> oki
[13:00] <jeromel> =(
[13:01] <jeromel> is there other drivers than fglrx ?
[13:01] <twright> jeromel, you could either use default one or go to lts
[13:01] <diogo_79> guys i cannot configure the gadmin openvpn client
[13:02] <jeromel> oki
[13:02] <diogo_79> Import server certificates in the client settings first
[13:02] <pavlos> kanas ellinas?
[13:02] <gnu-di1> I've been using Opera in 8.04 for quite a while successfully. Today, it stopped being able to connect to sites, always returning "error: network problem". I've tried purging opera and reinstalling, including deleting my ~/.opera folder. There's no change, still fails to connect. Firefox and Chrome still work. Anyone have an idea?
[13:02] <diogo_79> but where to put the certificates
[13:02] <diogo_79> /etc/openvpn
[13:02] <diogo_79> i have try in there but no luck
[13:02] <twright> jeromel, I have the same issue on one of my other computers it is a massive pain
[13:03] <jeromel> now i use default. The problem is if y go to LTS, my printer and my usb sound card will not be supported
[13:03] <jeromel> Cruel choice...
[13:03] <bazhang> !gr | pavlos
[13:03] <dvrcoder> when i try to upgrade my slapd, it fails saying that slapcat had a segmentation fault when trying to back up... what can cause this?
[13:03] <blip-> how do I get 256 color patch for rxvt-unicode in ubuntu
[13:03] <twright> jeromel, ok what problems were you having with the default then
[13:04] <jeromel> I do not have 3D acceleration
[13:04] <GhostWolfy> hi all, i was wondering if anyone knows a good program for ubuntu i can install for my webcam?
[13:04] <jeromel> I would like to use compiz and/or games
[13:04] <calwig> Does anyone have a good website where to download splash images ? (xpm.gz) for the Grub-Splashimages Image loader?
[13:04] <twright> ah
[13:05] <heogen> can you help me with the picture plugin in the internet I can see the picture in my email in-box
[13:05] <geirha> calwig: gnome-look.org
[13:06] <GhostWolfy> if anyone can help me with a program i can install that lets me use webcams i remember one someone telling me about but i can't remember it
[13:06] <Logo2> jrib: Back. Now what was it you wanted me to check?
[13:06] <bazhang> GhostWolfy, cheese ?
[13:06] <twright> jeromel, I would probably recommend waiting for karmic then as new releases usually fix issues like this
[13:06] <calwig> geirha: as soon as you answered, I had an answer also elswhere, coincidence, :) thank zou
[13:06] <GhostWolfy> bazhang, yea is it called cheese or something else alltogether??
[13:07] <lucas_> ubuntu sucks
[13:07] <jeromel> twright:  ok thx ;)  How many times I will wait approximately ? =D
[13:07] <bazhang> lucas_, wrong channel for you then
[13:07] <twright> jeromel, you could try the alpha and if it does not work out of the box you can submit a bug at launchpad
[13:07] <bazhang> GhostWolfy, cheese is one; depends on what you want to do
[13:07] <jrib> Logo2: alright, now try logging in with gdm and see if ~/.xsession errors provides new hints or it behaves differently at all
[13:07] <twright> jeromel, well as it it is 9.10 it should be about 2 months
[13:07] <jeromel> ok =)
[13:08] <Logo2> jrib: I did log in, then I rebooted and logged back in on the account that works.
[13:08] <GhostWolfy> well bazhang i just want to be able to capture images n videos but one thing i remember was that it didn't have good lighting couldn't even find setting to make it brighter but i believe cheese was the one
[13:08] <jrib> Logo2: right, but on the account that didn't work?
[13:08] <consin> yes
[13:08] <mustafa> hello
[13:09] <consin> hello
[13:09] <jeromel> twright:  can I simply upgrade by replacing my sources.list ?
[13:09] <Logo2> jrib: Yes, I logged in on the account that isn't working, then I came back.
[13:09] <clearscreen> jeromel: use update-manager
[13:09] <consin> where is to update
[13:09] <bazhang> jeromel, its not released, bad idea to update now
[13:09] <jrib> Logo2: so did it behave differently at all, or did ~/.xsession-errors differ in any way?
[13:10] <twright> jeromel, you can upgrade via the command line using gksu upgrade-manager -d
[13:10] <jeromel> bazhang: i dont have important data on this computeur for the moment
[13:10] <ZOO0828> hi, guys,   a straightforward Q -  where is the conf file for the X to determine the selected WM?   which could be modified in recovery mode, no X environment.
[13:10] <GhostWolfy> bazhang, do you know how to get the lighting for cheese even with all the lights i have in my room it doesn't make it very bright
[13:10] <ZOO0828> WM - windows manager
[13:10] <bazhang> jeromel, okay, that is your choice; twright and yourself should best take this discussion of karmic to #ubuntu+1 please
[13:10] <clearscreen> jeromel: if you're feeling REALLY adventurous, upgrade using update-manager -d... but don't expect support in this channel when anything breaks :P
[13:11] <twright> jeromel, I would recommend a fresh install rather than an upgrade or just test on the livecd
[13:11] <jeromel> yes I think I will try the livecd first
[13:11] <twright> bazhang, we are discussing a specific driver problem anyway
[13:12] <bazhang> jeromel, if you have issues when running the cd help can be found the in the aforementioned channel thanks
[13:12] <mahmood> join #ubuntu-ir
[13:12] <Logo2> jrib: It didn't behave any differently but I hadn't check ~/.xsession-errors yet- I'll do that now. You can see the new xsession-errors @ http://privatepaste.com/731GQvSPjD
[13:12] <aaron113> S
[13:13] <jrib> Logo2: what does ┬½ groups ┬╗ for the broken user return now?
[13:14] <Logo2> jrib: I can check that from the terminal even though I'm logged in from the working account, right?
[13:14] <jrib> Logo2: right
[13:14] <dvrcoder> hmm.... are there supposed to be two copies of the slapd bins, one in /usr/sbin and the other in /usr/local/sbin? or did the location change in a recent version?
[13:14] <Dan48p> do you guys know which partition grub is supposed to be installed in?
[13:14] <jrib> Logo2: you're posting ~brokenuser/.xsession-errors right?  Not ~/.xsession-errors of working user?
[13:14] <jeromel> ok thanks all I I thin I will try tomorrow and go back to give you information =)
[13:14] <gnu-di1> ’╗┐I've been using Opera in 8.04 for quite a while successfully. Today, it stopped being able to connect to sites, always returning "error: network problem" for any URL. I've tried purging opera and reinstalling, including deleting my ~/.opera folder. There's no change, still fails to connect. Firefox and Chrome still work. Anyone have an idea?
[13:15] <jeromel> if its work or not!
[13:15] <twright> jeromel, good luck
[13:15] <Logo2> jrib: That is correct.
[13:15] <jeromel> thanks twright
[13:15] <frogzoo> Dan48p: which part of grub? first stage should go on the mbr, 2nd stage goes anywhere, but typically /grub
[13:15] <Logo2> jrib: It doesn't look like there's been any change- I still get "rob adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[13:15] <frogzoo> erm /boot
[13:15] <Blizzerand> gnu-di1 : Might be an opera bug
[13:15] <jrib> Logo2: erm, ok. try again I guess?
[13:16] <jrib> Logo2: su - brokenuser; sudo adduser brokenuser pulse; groups
[13:16] <gnu-di1> Blizzerand: maybe, but why has it worked with the same version for months, only to stop working today?
[13:16] <knuut> twright: deleting the folder didnt solve the problem. i even un and then reinstalled gnome-panel. all had no effect
[13:16] <Dan48p> frogzoo, i'm trying to repair grub after a windows install with sudo grub-install, though i don't know which partition to put it in
[13:16] <bazhang> gnu-di1, which version of Opera? thought it was at version 10 or so now
[13:16] <Blizzerand> gnu-di1 : Were there any updates for opera recently
[13:16] <knuut> rebooted of course
[13:16] <frogzoo> !grub
[13:17] <gnu-di1> bazhang: 10.00.4585  Blizzerand: not that I know of.
[13:18] <Logo2> jrib: No change in the output of "groups"
[13:18] <Logo2> jrib: What were you expecting to see?
[13:18] <twright> knuut, then if your desktop environment is not highly tweaked it might be quicker to rename .gconf and .config
[13:18] <jrib> Logo2: that your user is then in the "pulse" group
[13:18] <jrib> Logo2: can you pastebin your whole terminal session?
[13:18] <Blizzerand> gnu-di1 : I think you should first have a talk  with those guys on #opera
[13:18] <RaaG> Which is best Desktop Recorder ?
[13:18] <Dan48p> frogzoo,  i'm geading that but when it says "replace /dev/ska with the location you want to install GRUB on" i'm stuck
[13:18] <twright> knuut, it looks like gnome's config might be a bit messed up in that case
[13:19] <bazhang> RaaG, no best, choose the one you like
[13:19] <bazhang> !screencast > RaaG
[13:19] <RaaG> ?
[13:19] <knuut> twright: it all occured after upgrading to jaunty from intrpid
[13:19] <gnu-di1> Blizzerand: OK, I'll try them. Thanks for trying to help.
[13:19] <RaaG> Screencast ?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> RaaG: best is an opinion so is not conrete. there is no best app for any task at all
[13:19] <bazhang> RaaG, check the bot's PM
[13:19] <Logo2> jrib: http://privatepaste.com/12L6gMcO7k
[13:20] <knuut> twright: what u mean by highly tweaked :-) just use Avant and global-menu
[13:20] <knuut> and emerals
[13:20] <twright> knuut, then I recommend you backup and remove all of the .files / .folder in your home directory to give you something closer to a fresh install
[13:20] <bazhang> knuut, emerald?
[13:20] <frogzoo> Dan48p: ls -l /dev/sda     - does the device exist?
[13:20] <knuut> bazhang: jes
[13:20] <jrib> Logo2: right, my fault.... run "newgrp"
[13:20] <knuut> yes
[13:20] <dabukalam> !emerald | bazhang
[13:21] <bazhang> knuut, that may be the culprit as emerald is no longer worked on or supported
[13:21] <twright> knuut, I just mean that the quickest way to fix it might just be deleting your configuration so you may need to redo some stuff
[13:21] <Logo2> jrib: It is ran.
[13:21] <bazhang> knuut, see the message above
[13:21] <jrib> Logo2: then "groups"
[13:21] <Dan48p> frogzoo, it says "root disk 8, 0"
[13:21] <knuut> twright: emerald runs fine.. my window borders look pretty nice :-)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> wow dint know emerald was unsupported
[13:21] <dabukalam> !beryl
[13:21] <Logo2> jrib: Still the same: "rob adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare"
[13:21] <twright> bazhang, I do not think emerald would mess with gnome panel
[13:21] <frogzoo> Dan48p: that's the one you want
[13:21] <jrib> Logo2: ... pastebin /etc/group
[13:22] <dabukalam> !compiz
[13:22] <shos> Hello, On the Nautilus side pane, when I open a dir of mp3s, how do I change the 'Open with VLC media player' to open with rythmbox?
[13:22] <bazhang> dabukalam, please /msg ubottu
[13:22] <jrib> shos: right click -> properties -> open with probably
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> shos: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/32273
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> Dan48p> This url will give you step by step if you get stuck again. :-) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[13:23] <knuut> twright: so u recomment a fresh jaunty installation? one thing i dont know if its important: i have ati graphics card.. i know that in the past there were support problems in jaunty
[13:23]  * leaf-sheep got a sudden urge to rename !beryl to "Beryl have been merged with Compiz to form C..C..C... COMPIZ-FUSION!"
[13:23] <bazhang> knuut, which card and driver
[13:23] <shos> ActionParsnip: i did all that but it didnt change
[13:24] <bazhang> leaf-sheep, its just called compiz now
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> knuut>With ATI/Radeon, why not be on the safe side and install Hardy 8.04?
[13:24] <Logo2> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m5f00e55e
[13:24] <knuut> bazhang: dont know..... :) is there a way to find out?
[13:24] <twright> knuut, you could but it would be quicker to delete all of the folders/files with . in front in your home directory
[13:24] <twright> knuut, ati drivers would not cause this kind of problems
[13:24] <knuut> twright: and then ubuntu automatically replaces the deleted .folders?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: safeside?
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> knuut>Driver wise
[13:25] <twright> knuut, yes - it is then just like you are a new user
[13:25] <lester> i have a problem can someone help me?
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[13:25] <leaf-sheep> lester: What's the problem?  Detail!
[13:25] <bazhang> lester, need a question
[13:25] <ade_> ÕźĮÕĢŖ
[13:25] <jrib> Logo2: ok.  Do sudo adduser rob pulse-access  and sudo adduser rob pulse-access, then pastebin /etc/group again
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> shos: gksudo gedit /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[13:25] <ranasco> any body tell me the pdf file convert to excel files
[13:25] <frogzoo> !cn
[13:25] <knuut> twright: ok, that might get me to reinstall some apps?
[13:26] <bazhang> ade_, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese, here is English only
[13:26] <jrib> Logo2: and "audio" as well
[13:26] <twright> knuut, no as they are installed system wide but you may need to set them up again
[13:26] <lester> it says the configuration defaults for gnome power manager are not installed correctly, what should i do?
[13:26] <jrib> ranasco: that really doesn't seem like it would be possible in general...
[13:26] <bazhang> ranasco, there wont be a perfect conversion
[13:27] <Logo2> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m1d669b62
[13:27] <knuut> twright: ok ill try it, whats up with the login and password? is it still there or does it boot directly wihtout the id and the pw ?
[13:27] <Dan48p> frogzoo, i get an error that says 494 cannot open /boot/grub/device.map
[13:27] <jrib> Logo2: still need to do pulse-rt and audio
[13:27] <twright> ranasco, you could try open with the open office pdf import extension then copy and past into calc
[13:27] <leaf-sheep> lester: What were you doing?
[13:28] <lester> nothing it just happened and i dont know what to do
[13:28] <Logo2> jrib: You said "sudo adduser rob pulse-access" twice. Was one of them supposed to be just pulse?
[13:28] <twright> knuut, the login and password will not change. If you want to autologin then that is in system and Login screen.
[13:28] <Logo2> jrib: Or pulse-rt?
[13:28] <leaf-sheep> lester: Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-power-manager"
[13:28] <jrib> Logo2: pulse-rt
[13:28] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip> With ATI/Radeon, would Intrepid or Jaunty be more likely to support the newer cards than Hardy? I may have spoke out of turn..:-(
[13:28] <twright> knuut, on the menus btw.
[13:28] <ranasco> hello
[13:29] <Ruien> anyone know of a decent curses-based window manager? I have looked into "viper window manager", which looks great except that its configure script fails to implement --prefix. Anyone tried any others?
[13:29] <knuut> twright: so ill delete every .folder in my home driectory
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: they'd be equal
[13:29] <knuut> :)
[13:29] <knuut> crazy
[13:29] <Sidewinder1> Thanx
[13:29] <lester> leaf-sheep, thanks man but what is it? is it a bug?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: the release is just supported for longer
[13:29] <twright> knuut, yes but you can back them up first
[13:29] <jrib> Ruien: that's the only one I've heard of.  Why don't you try things like ratpoison or even xmonad and awesome
[13:29] <Logo2> jrib: With pulse-rt and audio added: http://pastebin.com/m5eec8f80
[13:29] <leaf-sheep> lester: Not really.  Just something went haywire is all.
[13:29] <jrib> Logo2: try logging in as rob in gdm now
[13:30] <twright> Ruien, have you tried screen
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: the card may have issues with the version of xorg in each release so you'd have to look into that
[13:30] <Logo2> kk
[13:30] <lester> leaf-sheep, thank u dude :>
[13:30] <leaf-sheep> lester: No problem. :>
[13:30] <frogzoo> Dan48p: no device.map on my machine, I'm thinking you're using nix device names in places where grub wants grub device names, so either change your menu.lst, or create device.map
[13:30] <Logo2> jrib: brb
[13:30] <ranasco> any body tell me I want to convert pdf file into excel files
[13:31] <bazhang> ranasco, there was a suggestion above; did you try it?
[13:31] <knuut> twright: backup time: 30 Min :)
[13:31] <knuut> 25gb
[13:32] <ranasco> please send again
[13:32] <larsemil> anyone knows how to get all media buttons working on a dell vostro 1220?
[13:32] <bazhang> ranasco, could you scroll up?
[13:32] <twright> knuut, how many .files do you have then? You just need to copy those.
[13:32] <Blizzerand> ranasco : Just scroll up dude
[13:32] <bazhang>  ranasco, you could try open with the open office pdf import extension then copy and past into calc
[13:33] <knuut> twright: i have to mackup 75 folders if u mean those with a "." in front
[13:33] <bazhang> ranasco, please try some suggestions instead of simply repeating your question many times
[13:33] <Logo2> jrib: No change in the broken account that I could see.
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip> I'm using Hardy so I was just curious. On a similiar note, I was only going to upgrade to the next LTS, 10.4 I believe, can I go strait from hardy or do I have to go Intrepis Jaunty Karmic...etc.? I prefer upgrade to fresh install.
[13:33] <dvrcoder> why should ANY files be in /usr/local/sbin?
[13:34] <grawity> Why shouldn't they be there?
[13:34] <rek> some nicks in the side are coluered.. i'm using x-chat
[13:34] <dvrcoder> because I didn't put them there and installers usually should use /usr/sbin?
[13:34] <leaf-sheep> That's a good statement you got there, rek.
[13:34] <jrib> Logo2: what does ┬½ ls -d ~rob ┬╗ return?
[13:34] <jrib> Logo2: what does ┬½ ls -d ~rob/.* ┬╗ return?
[13:35] <jrib> dvrcoder: they should?
[13:35] <dvrcoder> well on my second machine which also has a server install, /usr/local/sbin is empty
[13:35] <twright> knuut, yes. you can select them all in nauilus if you go to edit-> select matching and type in .*
[13:35] <grawity> dvrcoder: Usually, it's like this: Programs installed from packages go to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. Programs compiled from source go to /usr/local/bin and usr/local/sbin.
[13:35] <grawity> dvrcoder: What _exactly_ you have in local/sbin?
[13:35] <ranasco> I am using openoffice 2.4
[13:36] <jrib> dvrcoder: usually when you install something yourself outside the repositories it will end up in /usr/local/ by default
[13:36] <knuut> twright: im already backing up and there is 22min remaining
[13:36] <Logo2> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m39afedf9
[13:36] <knuut> got em all
[13:36] <ranasco> no import option available
[13:36] <jrib> Logo2: didn't you say you renamed everything with a .?
[13:37] <zaggynl> what's the tool called to configure xorg? the gui tool
[13:37] <Logo2> jrib: I did change all the directories (one at a time), but then I changed them back.
[13:37] <twright> ranasco, there is an open office extension called pdf import, this will import a pdf as a document in writer from which you can easily copy and paste any tables into calc
[13:37] <dvrcoder> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m6494843f
[13:37] <jrib> dvrcoder: -ENOCONTEXT
[13:38] <twright> knuut, see you in 20min in that case - good luck :-)
[13:38] <dvrcoder> jrib: plus some slapd binaries i just moved out
[13:38] <ranasco> where I go to search pdf extention
[13:38] <ibuclaw> zaggynl, depends on the graphics card, I suppose.
[13:38] <dvrcoder> jrib: what does -ENOCONTEXT mean?
[13:38] <knuut> twright: if it doesnt work ill try vista ;-) ... joke
[13:38] <jrib> dvrcoder: it means you provided no context for our paste
[13:39] <dvrcoder> jrib: it is ls /usr/local/sbin
[13:39] <twright> ranasco, I would generally recommend google :-) - here it is: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport
[13:39] <ibuclaw> zaggynl, ie: for NViDIA cards, when you install the drivers, the NViDIA xconfig utility is installed too.
[13:39] <jrib> Logo2: well to be honest if you don't care about losing the configurations it's easier to just create a new account but otherwise rename all the . files and troubleshoot
[13:39] <twright> knuut, scared me for a second there :-)
[13:40] <larsemil> anyone knows how to get media buttons / acpi scripts to work for a dell vostro 1220?
[13:40] <jrib> dvrcoder: erm why is there so much stuff in your /usr/local/...?  How did you install these things?
[13:40] <Logo2> *sigh*
[13:40] <Scombr0> Hi everybody, i don't know where else find some help. I having problems with my wireless connection :/
[13:40] <ranasco> I download a new version open office thanks for help
[13:40] <Sidewinder1> !pdf | ranasco>
[13:41] <dvrcoder> jrib: that's what I'm asking. I never used anything besides aptitude / apt-get
[13:41] <Blizzerand_> !opera
[13:41] <Goldfire> easypeasy rocks
[13:41] <asfasdgger> hi there1
[13:41] <asfasdgger> !
[13:41] <Goldfire> try out the new release
[13:41] <dvrcoder> jrib: these files are old as hell, too. see http://pastebin.com/m40187f6
[13:41] <bazhang> Goldfire, please stay on topic
[13:42] <RaaG> Desktop recording with voice can u indicate me ?
[13:42] <Goldfire> bazhang: i'm french i don't understand
[13:42] <bazhang> Goldfire, easypeasy is not a support topic here
[13:42] <xnox> hello =) Something on my machine is uploading at top speed. I don't know what it is cause I'm not doing anything (no VoIP no uploads nothing like that)
[13:42] <bazhang> !screencast | RaaG check here
[13:42] <xnox> I'm suspecting someone is downloading everything off my machine
[13:43] <grawity> xnox: Pastebin the output of sudo netstat -ept
[13:43] <N-S> xnox perhaps you have a public samba share?
[13:43] <twright> Goldfire, off topic basically means use the right irc channel etc. This one is for support.
[13:44] <Logo2> jrib: I think I screwed up. I renamed the files, not the directories.
[13:45] <akshay> i need help regarding c++
[13:45] <akshay> in ubuntu
[13:45] <N-S> grawity Should that command come to a halt when all active connections are listed?
[13:45] <xnox> grawity: http://paste2.org/p/422672
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> !ask| akshay
[13:45] <xnox> grawity: the emacs bit is irc
[13:45] <visitor> Õż¦Õ«ČÕźĮ’╝ü
[13:45] <Logo2> jrib: I guess if I'm ever going to get to the bottom of this it'll because of renaming the directories.
[13:46] <visitor> µ£ēõ║║ÕÉŚ’╝¤
[13:46] <Sidewinder1> !cn | visitor>
[13:46] <jrib> Logo2: umm, it's one for loop :/
[13:46] <xnox> grawity: it doesn't seem to sho anything up
[13:46] <twright> akshay, what do you want to know?
[13:46] <grawity> xnox: Hmm, try with -n added.
[13:46] <akshay> i mean i needn to know to run a code written in c++
[13:46] <grawity> N-S: netstat may hang while it's resolving IP addresses to names.
[13:46] <Logo2> jrib: hmm?
[13:46] <ranasco> I am using usb wireless broadband but the usb device is windows based
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> akshay, g++ filename -o anyname
[13:47] <Scombr0> Ubuntu 9.04 won't connect to Wireless LAN, can someone help me? I've tried everything and can't fix it so far :/
[13:47] <ranasco> I am using 8.10
[13:47] <jrib> Logo2: just write a for loop to rename all the directories that start with a .
[13:47] <xnox> grawity: could that upload traffic be local to my machine? eg from myself to myself?
[13:47] <twright> akshay, for that you need to compile it so first try installing build-essential
[13:47] <grawity> xnox: I doubt it would slow down anything then.
[13:47] <twright> then g++ ./file
[13:47] <grawity> xnox: So, netstat -eptn?
[13:48] <akshay> how to install buil-essential
[13:48] <vavar> what's a good tool to check if any file loaded from a ftp server has the same checksum as the file on the server? is this check possible with all decent ftp servers?
[13:48] <xnox> grawity: http://paste2.org/p/422674
[13:48] <Sidewinder1> vavar>md5sum ?
[13:48] <xnox> grawity: I did -epnt hope the order doesn't mater
[13:48] <dvrcoder> jrib: i "solved" the problem. simply moved the entire /usr/local/sbin directory and rebooted, system still works :D
[13:48] <grawity> xnox: Still nothing interesting shows up :| (The order doesn't matter)
[13:49] <twright> akshay, search for it in synaptics (in the administration menu)
[13:49] <akshay> kkk
[13:49] <moonshine> i am mean little bastard...
[13:49] <Logo2> jrib: I'm not very good at shell scripting.
[13:49] <vavar> Sidewinder1: not if they did not place md5sums for all files up. i ask for some lower level automatic check.
[13:49] <twright> akshay, you might want to try an IDE such as netbeans
[13:49] <xnox> grawity: Ok is there another way to check current upload speed which is different from what system monitor does?
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> Sorry
[13:49] <akshay> wat do u mean
[13:50] <Logo2> afk
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> vavar>Wasn't quite sure what you were asking.
[13:50] <moonshine> akshay
[13:50] <bazhang> moonshine, ??
[13:50] <akshay> yes....moonshine
[13:50] <moonshine> well, using metasploit is ... unethical
[13:51] <bazhang> moonshine, did you have a support question
[13:51] <moonshine> oh, sorry for saying stupid things...does anyone can help me with encoders???
[13:51] <vavar> Sidewinder1: it's a problem. ftp transfers are so likely to be corrupt on your side after the download. the protocol does not care about consistency. but there are some extensions but which tools and which servers use or implement it? that's not that well known as it seems.
[13:51] <bazhang> moonshine, please clarify
[13:52] <moonshine> using encoders, their purpose...i dont know that :)
[13:52] <Blizzerand_> Is it me or do you guys too think vbox sucks <no offence though>
[13:52] <N-S> vavar without an md5 or sfv created by the ftpserver owner it could be difficult to verify
[13:52] <Myrtti> Blizzerand_: why don't you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic? this isn't a channel for conducting polls
[13:52] <bazhang> moonshine, this is Ubuntu support channel, you may wish to /msg alis list *term* for the topic you seek
[13:52] <jrib> Logo2: now would be a great opportunity to learn :)
[13:53] <bkrishan> hello
[13:53] <vavar> N-S: i know. a tool that could run over a mirrored set of files would be so great..
[13:53] <leaf-sheep> Blizzerand_: It is just you especially when you're having problems with VBox.
[13:53] <Mushrooms> I am wanting to buy a wireless PCI card for a pc.. for a ubuntu machine running ubuntu.. Is there any particular card that people would recommend?
[13:53] <moonshine> thanks :)
[13:53] <Blizzerand_> Myrtti : Didn't mean to poll <sorry>
[13:53] <MenZa> !hardware | Mushrooms
[13:53] <bazhang> !hcl > Mushrooms
[13:53] <moonshine> Mushrooms, Atheros would do just fine
[13:53] <moonshine> thats my opinion :)
[13:53] <N-S> vavar only comparison I think works without md5/sfv is size and that isn't a 100% guarantee.
[13:54] <kawada-ubuntu> hi
[13:54] <Mushrooms> lol gold cheers this was exactly what i was looking for
[13:54] <Sidewinder1> vavar>Any idea why they're so corrupt? I always thought that tcp/ip had built-in CRCs to resend corrupted packets, etc..
[13:54] <kawada-ubuntu> i am new to ubuntu chatrooms
[13:54] <King2> I'm back to vista because I just could not adjust the brightness on my hp laptop and my eyes were really hurting after four days of searching for fixes
[13:54] <kawada-ubuntu> anyone know how to find software application for ubuntu
[13:54] <N-S> Sidewinder1 certain filetypes are more sensitive than others
[13:54] <moonshine> ubottu, do you agree with me about the wireless card?
[13:54] <Blizzerand_> vbox gives me the error Cannot boot , detected only i686 CPU lol
[13:54] <N-S> rar is more sensitive than zip
[13:55] <leaf-sheep> King2: Make/Model?
[13:55] <p928s> hi
[13:55] <King2> kawada-ubuntu : Check the repositories, synaptic
[13:55] <kawada-ubuntu> i did, king2
[13:55] <Sidewinder1> vavar>I was just curious as I don't use ftp much anymore.
[13:55] <kawada-ubuntu> it is my first day using ubuntu, but i did
[13:55] <N-S> Sidewinder1 which is why rar-files often are packed inside zip-files.
[13:55] <p928s> new to linux    ubuntu
[13:55] <King2> What are you looking for exactly
[13:55] <quibbler> kawada-ubuntu-> what are you looking for?
[13:56] <vavar> Sidewinder1: tcp/ip just takes care of a packet stream and the order. if the software can't handle if a proxy or whatever turns the data into crap along the way it's not enough to rely on the lowest level crc.
[13:56] <leaf-sheep> Welcome to #ubuntu, p928s
[13:56] <kawada-ubuntu> to do programming
[13:56] <kawada-ubuntu> and web content
[13:56] <p928s> just testing xchat
[13:56] <kawada-ubuntu> i wonder if there is neat stuff at linux platform
[13:56] <p928s> thank you
[13:56] <Blizzerand_> kawada-ubuntu : You could also try other distros if you like ubuntu
[13:56] <leaf-sheep> p928s: Great. If you have any questions or anything like that, just ask away. ;)
[13:56] <Sidewinder1> vavar>Don't torrent clients check and resend even corrupted RARs?
[13:56] <kawada-ubuntu> other distros got more packages to be installed right ?
[13:56] <p928s> ok leaf sheep
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> kawada-ubuntu: possibly
[13:57] <vavar> so if you find a handy tool that implements such a interface - just tell me.. i'll be around :)
[13:57] <sin360>  I'm trying to install Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary 11th Edition but it keeps giving an error during isrt.dll could not be installed and exits out. I see on the database someone installed it no with the issues.
[13:57] <King2>  kawada-ubuntu: There's lots of programming and webdev packages for ubuntu
[13:57] <matrixblue> sin360, dll is windows
[13:57] <kawada-ubuntu> which one do u recommand if my target isn't to use application, for i have enough software for it on my windows
[13:57] <Blizzerand_> sin360 : use wine
[13:57] <kawada-ubuntu> how to locate it, king2
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> kawada-ubuntu: theres nothing stopping you creating your own debs and/or compiling source of any app you can find
[13:57] <Blizzerand_> !wine | sin360
[13:58] <moonshine> !s3
[13:58] <p928s> bye   ....later
[13:58] <kawada-ubuntu> yeah wine....but i dont need that at the moment
[13:58] <moonshine> !unichrome
[13:58] <moonshine> !via
[13:58] <kawada-ubuntu> i simply switch harddisc for windows
[13:58] <bazhang> moonshine, /msg ubottu please
[13:59] <vavar> Sidewinder1: torrent's are fine because they check against the checksum automatically. it's a shame that other protocols don't usually do it that well on a lower level.
[13:59] <Blizzerand_> kawada-ubuntu : That wine message was not for you dude heh
[13:59] <kawada-ubuntu> ok, Blizzerand
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> vavar>Concur
[13:59] <Blizzerand_> sin360 : Did you use wine to install it
[13:59] <sin360> I am using wine to install it and that the error is giving during the install of the program. The wine application rating is gold.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sin360: wine doesnt run all apps well, some refuse to even install
[14:00] <frogzoo> !wine
[14:00] <Blizzerand_> sin360 : The other guy might have used crosssover
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sin360: check the appdb for compatibilty
[14:00] <Blizzerand_> !crossover
[14:00] <Blizzerand_> !cross-over
[14:00] <sancho21> How to format usb? My USB was mistakenly formatted into /dev/sdd without any numerical suffix (sdd1).
[14:00] <sin360> I already checked the winedb, he used wine to run it
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sancho21: run: gksudo gparted /dev/sdd
[14:00] <grawity> sancho21: You'll need to create a partition table on /dev/sdd
[14:01] <matrixblue> sancho21, the easiest way is to use gparted
[14:01] <King2> -ud grapist
[14:01] <Blizzerand_> sin360 : Are you running the lastest version of wine
[14:01] <Blizzerand_> !info wine
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> sin360: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[14:02] <larsemil> so my intel card is increadibly slow on ubuntu. heard that was a bug. anything to do about that?
[14:02] <leaf-sheep> !intel | larsemil
[14:02]  * Blizzerand_ huggles ActionParsnip.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: could try the old driver: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> larsemil: some people have success with it
[14:02] <sin360> I have wine and I know how to use it. I was just seen if anyone has ran into the same error
[14:03]  * ActionParsnip hugs Blizzerand_
[14:03] <Blizzerand_> Thnks
[14:03] <vavar> so not funny.. if i use 2 times the same network card in one box the driver fails.. it's obviously only tested with one card.
[14:03] <c0rrupt0r> Hello, I am using the latest ubuntu karmic koala, I am wondering how to go about searching for open ports and closing the opened ports, if im correct that would be using Nmap but im not to sure about the command in terminal
[14:03] <Myrtti> !karmic > c0rrupt0r
[14:03] <sin360> Blizzerand_ yes I'm running the lates version
[14:04] <frogzoo> c0rrupt0r: netstat -antu
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> c0rrupt0r>nmapi ?
[14:04] <bigdavejoker> I'm can't succesfully burn a DVD iso image that ubuntu can read.  I've tried multiple discs that appear to succesfully burn but when I try and read them I can't mount the disc
[14:04] <Blizzerand_> sin360 : wine works for some and not for others considering circumstances .
[14:05] <sin360> Blizzerand_  Ok thanks
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> sin360: the wine in the ubuntu repos is older than the one no the wine repos
[14:05] <akshay_> how to do c++ on ubuntu??
[14:05] <twright> larsemil, This should be a lot better in Ubuntu karmic which should be out in 2 months
[14:05] <vavar> Sidewinder1: where did you find 'concur'? what is it?
[14:05] <sancho21> grawity, is it a partition table mandatory?
[14:05] <Blizzerand_> sin360 : Do you have Windows media disk ( the installer)
[14:05] <sin360> I get mines from the wine repos
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> akshay_: sudo apt-getinstall build-essential
[14:06] <akshay_> kk
[14:06] <rek> hi how can i open a parallel port in ubuntu usin c? what's the hardware address?
[14:06] <King2> ! xserver
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> sin360: maybe yuo need to pecify a diferent widows setiing in winecfg
[14:06] <grawity> sancho21: Not really. In fact, many USB drives don't have a partition table - just a single big partition.
LOL! Concur=I was agreeing with you. :-)
[14:06] <King2> Then what the hell do you know ubottu
[14:06] <sancho21> grawity, so /dev/sdd is okay?
[14:06] <grawity> !bot | King2
[14:06] <vavar> !xorg
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> !x | king2
[14:06] <rek> hi how can i open a parallel port in ubuntu usin c? what's the hardware address?
[14:07] <Blizzerand_> King2 : Atleast it knows better thank you lol
[14:07] <mefiiik> hello i have simple question.. i have on my HDD 2 ubuntu... one si broken.. nobody know how to repair it.. so i install new ubuntu... is here any way how to copy all updates from old ubuntu to new ubuntu? and all configuration? i dont want to download everything again.. thx for help:)
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> rek: the hardware address is OS independant, i'd ask in c#
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> oops
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> #c
[14:07] <rek> in linux
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> rek: its OS independant
[14:08] <leaf-sheep> akshay_: http://tinyurl.com/5cq9za
[14:08] <rek> ubuntu i said
[14:08] <twright> akshay_, using an IDE is much easier to begin programming on linux than command line
[14:08] <Mushrooms> bazhang: can i please send you a pm?
[14:08] <akshay_> actionparsnip: this is not working
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> rek: its the same in any OS you choose, it will always be the same, be it windows or ubuntu
[14:08] <akshay_> which ide
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> akshay_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:09] <vavar> mefiiik: copy your personal files and your modifications to the rest of the system.. and use a fresh install with fresh updates. if your hdd fails you won't rely on the old files.. and the updates are nothing you should worry about.
[14:09] <rek> acc how can i discover it?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> akshay_: i missed the space
[14:09] <rek> /proc/ioport?
[14:09] <akshay_> i corrected
[14:09] <vavar> mefiiik: i meant .. like your folder in /home
[14:09] <akshay_> but still  giving error
[14:09] <twright> akshay_, I usually use netbeans but there are many good options
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> !info build-essential
[14:09] <akshay_> like
[14:09] <Blizzerand_> mefiiik : copy everything from /var/cache/apt/archives and replace it with that of the new installation
[14:09] <leaf-sheep> mefiiik: You'll need to do !clone (to get all packages installed) and copy ~/ - (to copy your home (where both personal and configuration files are in)
[14:09] <leaf-sheep> !clone > mefiiik
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> rek: C doesnt use ports like that, bash and other scripting languages will
[14:09] <leaf-sheep> !home > mefiiik
[14:10] <rek> i must use open() ActionParsnip
[14:10] <Myrtti> Blizzerand_: whut?
[14:10] <bigdavejoker> can't read DVD I just burnt it appears to burn fine with no errors at the end but can't open disc when I try and read
[14:10] <twright> akshay_, anjuta, code::blocks and eclipse
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> !info anjuta
[14:10] <akshay_> twright- how to add plugin on netbeans
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> akshay_: ^
[14:11] <Blizzerand_> Myrtti : huh
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> rek: ask in #C they will help
[14:11] <akshay_> kk
[14:11] <harsha> hi
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> rek: open () uses raw ports whch is OS independant
[14:11] <harsha> any agent here
[14:11] <knuut> twright: backup ready ... folders deleted (3 are still there and i need permission to delete, how do i open the terminal without the gnome-main-menu?).... time for reboot
[14:11] <Myrtti> Blizzerand_: your advice to mefiiik made a limited amount of sense. Very limited
[14:11] <twright> akshay_, if you download it form netbeans.org you can cose them.
[14:11] <akshay_> iam takin abt in windows
[14:12] <mefiiik> ok so i have to copy from old ubuntu from /var/cache/apt/archives to new ubuntu... and everything from /home to new ubuntu /home ok?
[14:12] <harsha> how to upgrade to 9.04 using
[14:12] <leaf-sheep> harsha: agent? What are you rambling on about? Do continue.
[14:12] <harsha> cd
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> akshay_: this is ubuntu support, windows support is in ##windows
[14:12] <twright> knuut, you can use control alt and the fkeys to get to a full screen terminal
[14:12] <akshay_> kkkkkk
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | harsha
[14:12] <Myrtti> mefiiik: please follow the advice of the bot
[14:12] <akshay_> kk
[14:12] <Myrtti> !clone | mefiiik
[14:13] <Myrtti> mefiiik: copying stuff from /var/cache/apt/archives is *VERY* unlikely to work
[14:13] <twright> knuut, also ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[14:13] <mefiiik> Myrtii ok i will try it:)
[14:13] <harsha> I mean i have installed ubuntu 8.0 and ordered the 9.0 release cd got it now..
[14:13] <knuut> twright: glad i found out
[14:13] <harsha> so wanna upgrade to that
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> harsha: you can only upgrade with the alternate cd
[14:14] <harsha> how do i do that please help
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> harsha: i have seen someone say you can upgrade using live cd if you use custom partitioning then select the partition not to be formatted
[14:14] <stefg> !upgrade
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> harsha: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/82469
[14:15] <Blizzerand_> Myrtti : You update files are downloaded in the folder /var/cache/apt/archives (ie if you didnot clean the folder) so if you could copy every thing from that folder to the /var/cache/apt/archives of the newly installed system . It always worked for me
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> harsha: i havent done it but Tom seems to know his stuff. Personally I'd upgrade via the web
[14:15] <Myrtti> Blizzerand_: *if* you did not clean.
[14:15] <Myrtti> !wfm | Blizzerand_
[14:15] <knuut> twright: reboot now
[14:15] <wWales> how can i access my ntfs hdd when its not showing up in fstab but is visible in nautilus but not accessible because "i dont have privileges to mount"?
[14:16] <Blizzerand_> Myrtti : provided that I got from ubuntuforums  where it worked for all heh !
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs | wWales
[14:17] <Blizzerand_> Myrtti : CS is not something which I much care about but I don't consider that much useful , No thank
[14:17] <mefiiik> i didn't remove anything from /var/cache/apt/archives... i have here all things thath i downloaded
[14:17] <mefiiik> *that
[14:17] <zugiart> HI all, anyone here doing GNOME GUI programming with Python? Or know of a good place to go and ask for this sort of thing?  I want to make my python skill to good use and contribute something back to this great community!
[14:18] <rigel> hi, i need to burn a toast image, and have no access to a non-ubuntu OS. is there a way to do that in ubuntu?
[14:18] <rigel> i couldnt find an easy answer by googling it
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> !launchpad | zugiart>
[14:19] <stefg> wWales: Havfe you checked in the user administration applet that you have rights to use 'fuse'-filesystems?
[14:19] <aaron113> Dog Is A Meat
[14:19] <twright> rigel, try this: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=827280
[14:19] <bernardlychan> hey could someone pleez read my ubuntu log files? whenever i log in with my monitor in, or i put my monitor in after i log in, the screen would freeze completely except for my mouse which can stil move but can't click anything. on rare occasions it just freezes even though i haven't even put my monitor in.
[14:19] <Blizzerand_> mefiiik : k , if you trust me copy that packages into your home and from the terminal paste them all into your /var/cache/apt/archives directory . No download required and just update
[14:19] <qman4life> wow
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> rigel: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=827280
[14:19] <qman4life> guys wheres a good site to download windows xp?
[14:20] <qman4life> i need to run lots of important programs that wont run on linux, therefore i need windows xp.
[14:20] <stefg> !piracy
[14:20] <Blizzerand_> qman4life : Thats what we call pirating , which is supported
[14:20] <mefiiik> Blizzerand_: ok i will copy it.. because that guide which they send me... i really dont understand it:D i am begginer and there is lot of stuff which i dont understand
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> unsuppoed ;)
[14:20] <wWales> stefg: it says i can "access external storage devices automatically"
[14:20] <glickity> hi
[14:21] <qman4life> ffs..
[14:21] <qman4life> thanks anyway bye
[14:21] <ikonia> qman4life: don't ask about that stuff in here please - this channel is for ubuntu support only
[14:21] <sin360> I got my install error resolved I installed iKernel engine and the install for my application went smoothly.
[14:21] <bernardlychan> indus: pleez help me?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> wWales: you can add it to /etc/fstab with good mount options to allow users access
[14:21] <stefg> wWales: that's not the same as being membr of the fuse group
[14:21] <qman4life> sorry ikonia, this is my first time in this server. give me a chance god..
[14:21] <Blizzerand_> sin360 : Good for you
[14:22] <ikonia> qe2eqe: no problem, thank you
[14:22] <ikonia> oops
[14:22] <bernardlychan> qman4life: wat is it?
[14:22] <bernardlychan> hey could someone pleez read my ubuntu log files? whenever i log in with my monitor in, or i put my monitor in after i log in, the screen would freeze completely except for my mouse which can stil move but can't click anything. on rare occasions it just freezes even though i haven't even put my monitor in.
[14:23] <ikonia> bernardlychan: this is a known bug there is a but logged on launchpad for it
[14:23] <Ayla> hello
[14:23] <bernardlychan> ikonia: where is the bug logged?
[14:23] <bernardlychan> where's launchpad?
[14:23] <Sidewinder1> !hi |
[14:23] <ikonia> launchpad.net
[14:24] <Anarhist> is there a way to start a command and give it only so long time to execute and then kill it (automatically, not issuing a kill command manually)
[14:24] <wWales> ActionParsnip: what should i call it under <file system><mount point><type><options><dump><pass>?
[14:24] <bernardlychan> ikonia: what's the bug called?
[14:24] <Ayla> I've got a problem, my session does not want to start
[14:24] <iceroot> Anarhist: with a thread, start a cmmand, save the pid and use a threas "&" with a kill command for that command
[14:24] <ikonia> bernardlychan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/359392
[14:24] <Ayla> nautilus segfaults :/
[14:24] <ikonia> bernardlychan: and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/345119
[14:25] <ikonia> bernardlychan: if you search on your descriptions you'll find them like that
[14:25] <Blizzerand> mefiiik : How did it go
[14:25] <twright> Ayla, was it like that since you installed ubuntu or is it a new issue
[14:25] <Ayla> twright: new issue
[14:25] <Ayla> yesterday, everything was okay
[14:25] <leaf-sheep> Anarhist: Sure. Run in the terminal --> "firefox ; sleep 5m ; killall firefox"
[14:25] <stefg> Ayla: did you install a custom theme?
[14:26] <iceroot> Anarhist: it was something like MYPID=$(command) & sleep x && kill MYPID    have a look at the manpages
[14:26] <twright> Ayla, in that case you should be able to fix it quite easily by deleting you configuration for nautilus etc.
[14:26] <glickity> lookin forward to karmic koala
[14:26] <iceroot> leaf-sheep: that is killing all processes called firefox
[14:26] <ikonia> !karmick | glickity
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> glickity: its not bad at all
[14:26] <leaf-sheep> iceroot: That's an example. ;o
[14:26] <ikonia> !9.10 | glickity
[14:26] <Anarhist> leaf-sheep, the problem is it's a java command, and i don't want to do killall java
[14:26] <Ayla> twright: where is it stored ?
[14:27] <bernardlychan> ikonia: how would i fix my problem? the driver: vesa trick doesn't work
[14:27] <Anarhist> iceroot, thanks
[14:27] <frogzoo> october 29th? someone's fudging a release date there I reckon
[14:27] <Blizzerand> glickity : Do you want to try the alpha release of Karmic.
[14:27] <ikonia> bernardlychan: if there is no fix in the bug report - there may not be a fix yet
[14:27] <Ayla> ah, .nautilus I guess
[14:27] <sancho21> I plugged a usb. But I cannot determine which /dev/??? So I don't know which dev should I format. Anyone?
[14:27] <ackbahr> Hi! Is there a way to retrieve packages from the install CD, as I've uninstalled network-manager AND ifconfig?
[14:27] <twright> Ayla, it is probably in several folders in .gconf in your home but it might be best just to remove all of your .config folders
[14:27] <edgy> Hi, I compiled  a program with make and the removed the folder of the source, how can I uninstall it now?
[14:28] <glickity> i wonder what ubuntu will do in 6 years when they run out of letters
[14:28] <ikonia> edgy: you'll have to manually remove everything you installed with make install
[14:28] <Slart> edgy: download the source again... and run make uninstall
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> edgy: redownload the source
[14:28] <edgy> ikonia: how can I tell where is installed?
[14:28] <Blizzerand> glickity : They'll probably start out with a new theme
[14:28] <Slart> edgy: or, ask ikonia said, remove it manually
[14:28] <ackbahr> glickity: well, AA, AB, AC, etc....
[14:28] <Sidewinder1> Zealous Zebra?
[14:28] <ikonia> edgy: that's your responsability when building from source to note down what goes where
[14:28] <edgy> Slart, ActionParsnip: really that would work? thanks a lot
[14:29] <ikonia> can we take the non-support discussion on 9.10 and later to an offtopic channel please
[14:29] <Blizzerand> ackbahr : The ubuntu fans will protest lol
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> adgy: you can then run: sudo make uninstall    if its an option in the make file
[14:29] <stefg> sancho21: dmesg | tail should give you a clue
[14:29] <edgy> ikonia: you are right but it's good that there is ways if you forget ;)
[14:29] <Strife89> Hello, I have two screenshots of information that really concern me. Here is the first, which appears on every bootup, and often when coming out of Suspend mode. http://picpaste.com/IMGP5107.JPG
[14:29] <twright> Ayla, on my computer at least .nautilus is empty - you may just need to delete all of your .files then it should work (you may loose preferences this way so back up first).
[14:29] <Strife89> My laptop is a Toshiba Satellite L305D-S5897, with an AMD TurionX2 64-bit CPU (I am running the 32-bit version of Mint).
[14:29] <ikonia> edgy: there isn't normally
[14:29] <Strife89> Here is the second picture. I recently tried to bring my laptop out of Suspend (a.k.a. Standby), but I got a kernel panic. http://picpaste.com/IMGP5106.JPG
[14:30] <ikonia> Strife89: ok - mint is not supported here
[14:30] <sancho21> sancho21, I tried, but I doesnt' help much
[14:30] <Strife89> Anyway, the issue that is mentioned in the first screenshot occured in both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Ubuntu, so I suspect it's a kernel or a driver issue.
[14:30] <sancho21> stefg, I tried, but I doesnt' help much
[14:30] <Strife89> ikonia: This issue occured in Ubuntu as well.
[14:30] <leaf-sheep> !mint | Strife89
[14:30] <edgy> ikonia: you mean we can ask for "support" questions for karmic here?
[14:30] <leaf-sheep> !mintsupport | Strife89
[14:30] <twright> Strife89, this is normal - it is just about the device powersaving
[14:30] <ikonia> edgy: no #ubuntu+1
[14:30] <stefg> sancho21: sudo fdisk -l would be another option
[14:31] <twright> ikonia, this is a kernel/suspend issue so it is exactly the same on ubuntu and mint
[14:31] <ikonia> twright: you're not debugging on ubuntu - so please take it to mint support
[14:31] <sancho21> stefg, thanks
[14:31] <Strife89> twright: I suspected as such, but I wanted to be sure that it wasn't a hardware issue or something.
[14:32] <Ayla> twright: I moved the .config, .gconf and .gconfd folders
[14:32] <Ayla> twright: and the problem is still here
[14:32] <Ayla> nautilus segfaults :(
[14:32] <sancho21> stefg, I found /dev/sdd. But as I did "sudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdd" it failed "Attempting to create a too large file system"
[14:32] <Daimonic> Hey, I've installed ubuntu 9.04 with gnome desktop, however I want to use KDE network-manager, I've installed network-manager-kde. Now is my question: How can I access the managaer oder start it?
[14:32] <twright> Ayla, in that case have you made any changes to your system setup etc. recently
[14:33] <funkmaster> hi there :)
[14:33] <stefg> sancho21: you can't format a whole disk... only a partition sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd1
[14:33] <funkmaster> was wondering if someone could help me out with squid
[14:33] <Strife89> twright: Is there anything that can be done to prevent the issues with coming out of Suspend?
[14:33] <sancho21> stefg, but there is no /dev/sdd1
[14:33] <Ayla> twright: I did an update, and I tested e17 (which was already installed), that's all
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[14:33] <sancho21> The device was broken
[14:34] <stefg> sancho21: then there is no partition table.. create one first
[14:34] <funkmaster> I got it running but I want a machine on the net to make use of the proxy but only that machine and nothign else how can i configure that?
[14:34] <Strife89> !ask | funkmaster
[14:34] <sancho21> stefg, how?
[14:34] <stefg> sancho21: i's use sudo cfdisk /dev/sdd
[14:34] <Strife89> Whoops, too late. ^^;
[14:34] <Daimonic> Hey, I've installed ubuntu 9.04 with gnome desktop, however I want to use KDE network-manager, I've installed network-manager-kde. Now is my question: How can I access the managaer oder start it?
[14:34] <jollyroger_> hey guys, could it be that apache-package for ubuntu is compiled WITHOUT mod_deflate?
[14:34] <sancho21> stefg, ah great! I'll try
[14:34] <sancho21> thanks
[14:35] <funkmaster> strife89: what you mean don't get it?
[14:35] <yassine_> linuxac
[14:35] <twright> Ayla, that might be what broke it then. Could you try creating a new user then seeing if it works correctly as that one.
[14:35] <bigdavejoker> are there special tools to install that don't come out of the box for 9.04 to burn and read dvds?
[14:35] <frogzoo> bigdavejoker: k3b
[14:35] <Strife89> funkmaster: I gave the !ask command after you actually asked your question.
[14:36] <danny> I have recently bought an ATI AH3450 video card. Display-wise, there's really no problem, but whenever I install the drivers and reboot, all the audio starts stuttering. The ATI has an onboard HDMI that can also stream sound so I guess it interferes with the on-motherboard sound card with which I had absolutely no problems before. Any ideas what to do? Thanks!
[14:36] <bigdavejoker> thanks I was able to burn a dvd but can't read it
[14:36] <Sidewinder1> bigdavejoker>No special tools; they should all be there.
[14:36] <Strife89> funkmaster: And someone beat me to using the command anyway.
[14:36] <kwtm> No Python 2.6 for Ubuntu Hardy?
[14:36] <Myrtti> !info python2.6
[14:36] <funkmaster> ok but see above, what does mean?
[14:36] <gongoputch> can someone tell me why this http://www.bsdtips.org/~gongo/panoramic/antietum/burnside_bridge_java.html java applet doesn't funtion in Ubuntu?
[14:36] <funkmaster> don't see anything relevant above
[14:36] <bigdavejoker> Sidewinder1  thats what I thought the DVD burns fine everytime but then won't mount
[14:36] <bigdavejoker> frogzon thanks gonna check k3b out
[14:37] <Myrtti> kwtm: it's installed by default
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> bigdavejoker>You may need a proprietary driver
[14:37] <frogzoo> gongoputch: works for me
[14:37] <kwtm> Myrtti: Really?  Okay.  Mine is Python 2.5, but I will sudo apt-get upgrade.  Thanks!
[14:37] <stefg> gongoputch: works for me (jaunty 64bit)
[14:37] <gongoputch> frogzoo: what rev are you in?
[14:37] <Myrtti> kwtm: if it's not there by default, you should be able to just install it
[14:37] <Daimonic> Hey, I've installed ubuntu 9.04 with gnome desktop, however I want to use KDE network-manager, I've installed network-manager-kde. Now is my question: How can I access the managaer oder start it?
[14:38] <Ayla> twright: I added user "bob", and did "startx", but nautilus does not start
[14:38] <Myrtti> kwtm: and use it alongside python2.5
[14:38] <gongoputch> hmmm, a friend is running Ubuntu and says it midfires.
[14:38] <frogzoo> gongoputch: sun-java6-jre
[14:39] <gongoputch> k, I'll check if that is what he has
[14:39] <ianpold> MY Radeon HD 4350 isn't giving me any DVI output. Can anyone help?
[14:39] <kwtm> Myrtti: Okay.  I did "sudo apt-get install python" and it said 2.5.2 was already the newest version.
[14:39] <stefg> !java | gongoputch
[14:39] <Sidewinder1> bigdavejoker>Actually, I should've said codec in lieu of driver; sorry.
[14:39] <gongoputch> hmm, I should probably set up an Ubuntu test box
[14:39] <Myrtti> kwtm: sudo aptitude install python2.6
[14:40] <bigdavejoker> Sidewinder1 okay let me check that out  it's an ISO file some does a codec apply  or would that only be for media?
[14:40] <ackbahr> Can I get packages from the Ubuntu install CDrom? (9.04 64bits)
[14:40] <gongoputch> seems like (to me) that Ubuntu finally fulfilled that "year of linux on the desktop" promise (that seemed to be 'on' for like 10 years)
[14:40] <kwtm> Myrtti: Hmm I tried.  It said "no package named python2.6" or something like that.  Do I need to update my Hardy sources?
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> bigdavejoker>I'm not sure. :-(
[14:41] <glickity> i dont think hardy has python 2.6
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> bigdavejoker>Mostly media, I'm pretty sure.
[14:41] <glickity> whats wrong witih python 2.5
[14:41] <stefg> gongoputch: for 40 years now unixen or the OS of the future... time to be the OS of the present now :-)
[14:42] <Myrtti> kwtm: oh yeah - HARDY...
[14:42] <kwtm> Myrtti: Yeah, I got it on Jaunty ok, I think.
[14:43] <Anarhist> iceroot, just for your reference (if somebody else asks) i found 'timelimit' command, it does what i wanted
[14:43] <gongoputch> stefg: Unix : always the bride's maid, never the bride.
[14:43] <kwtm> glickity: I am writing for cross-platform Ubuntu and Vista, and need to be able to terminate processes in Windows as well as Linux.
[14:43] <twright> Ayla, in that case you might have to try ubuntu in recovery mode or reinstall.
[14:43] <kwtm> glickity: I can't find how to kill a spawned Windows process in Python 2.5.  os.kill() is not available for Windows.
[14:44] <ManDay> I've installed a basic ubuntu instalation from the minimal install - what do I need to get WLAN running with WPA2 ?
[14:44] <stefg> Ayla: ext4 filesystem and some unexpected shutdown (power loss)?
[14:44] <Myrtti> ManDay: minimal way of doing it is with wpa_supplicant
[14:44] <Myrtti> ManDay: which is a commandline tool
[14:44] <ManDay> yep
[14:44] <ManDay> i remember
[14:44] <ManDay> thanks
[14:45] <Ayla> stefg: ext4 filesystem, and no unexpected shutdown at least none as I'm aware of
[14:45] <ManDay> I got a weird interface called "pan0", does anyone know what that is?
[14:45] <stefg> Ayla: have you done a fsck already?
[14:46] <Ayla> stefg: everytime the computer starts
[14:47] <twright> stefg, if it was ext4 issues fsck would not help as due to the async problem files are missing but the disk is never inconsistent
[14:48] <Ayla> can it be a problem of missing dependancies ?
[14:49] <stefg> Ayla: so it might well be a corrupt file... twright is right. fsck will only fix metadata for a broken file (which won't help). If some lib went belly up.... good luck in finding which one.
[14:49] <Ayla> @_@
[14:49]  * pshr_ freaked out!!!!
[14:50] <Ayla> stefg: is there a command that reinstall every already-installed package ?
[14:51] <stefg> Ayla: apt-get install --reinstall ... but i don't know if it has some sort of -all switch
[14:51] <stefg> !apt | Ayla
[14:53] <Ayla> stefg: is ext4 the source of the problem ?
[14:53] <stefg> Ayla: that's just a guess
[14:54] <Ayla> stefg: if I reinstall, should I use ext3 then ?
[14:55] <stefg> Ayla: have you run a memtest? can also be a bad strip of ram...
[14:56] <Trijntje> Why does ubuntu crawl to a halt when copying files to an external disk?
[14:56] <xnox``> how to check whether it is safe for me to uninstall linux-restricted modules? I don't believe i'm using them....
[14:56] <brynjarh> is there a "reversed grep"? that is I want to show every line in an output that does NOT contain some text?
[14:56] <Ayla> stefg: memtest ? is that a program ? I can't find it
[14:56] <Myrtti> brynjarh: grep -v
[14:57] <brynjarh> Myrtti: alrighty, thanks.
[14:57] <lucy1989> can anyone help me with my graphics card?
[14:57] <stefg> Ayla: that's an option during boot (if you 'esc' to the boot menu)... it's a test program for the system ram
[14:57] <Trijntje> !ask | lucy1989
[14:58] <Ayla> stefg: ok, I'll try this, thanks
[14:58] <Sidewinder1> Trijntje>Mine doesn't. What interface are you using? USB, eSATA?
[14:58] <lucy1989> oh, ok, sorry!
[14:59] <Trijntje> Sidewinder1: usb, but im using max 40% of my cpu, so I dont understand what's going on
[14:59] <lucy1989> i have a radeon 4350 HD but my DVI doesn't work. VGA works ok tho
[14:59] <Sidewinder1> Trijntje>How much RAM?
[14:59] <Trijntje> Sidewinder1: : 2GB, 4 CPU's. Even pidgin goes dark every few secons..
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> Trijntje>WOW! All I have is 1 Proc., a gig of Ram...Perhaps it's the USB, I use eSATA on 4 Ext. HDDs.
[15:01] <SLXmnT> i have a 8GB pendrive. and i want to use it permanent HDD in UBUNTU. it possible?
[15:02] <Sidewinder1> Trijntje>It shouldn't slow your machine that much; USB or otherwise. Perhaps someone more knowlegable Than I will chime in. Sorry...
[15:02] <Trijntje> Sidewinder1: what could it be with USB? It could make transfer slow, but it should leave all other proceses on my pc alone right?
[15:02] <lucy1989> I've installed a radeonhd driver with the Synaptic Package Manager. How do i edit the options?
[15:02] <Sidewinder1> Trijntje>That's what I meant in my last comment.
[15:02] <Trijntje> Sidewinder1: ok, atleast i now know its not normal ;) Thanks for your time
[15:02] <stefg> Trijntje: is that an ntfs disk ?
[15:03] <diogo_79> how can i see if some libraries are install?
[15:03] <SLXmnT> HELLO help me - i have a 8GB pendrive. and i want to use it permanent HDD in UBUNTU 9.10. it is  possible?
[15:03] <SLXmnT> HELLO help me - i have a 8GB pendrive. and i want to use it permanent HDD in UBUNTU 9.10. it is  possible?
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> Trijntje>My pleasure; sorry I couldn't give you the answer. :-(
[15:03] <Trijntje> Stefg: encrypted ext3
[15:03] <Trijntje> !repeat | SLXmnT
[15:03] <stefg> SLXmnT: should be, but please ask karmic questions in #ubuntu+1
[15:04] <sjoos> SLXmnT: just add it to /etc/fstab
[15:04] <stefg> Trijntje: hmmm, encryption could have something to do with it
[15:04] <SLXmnT> stefg thanks. but UBUNTU 2 side (2 chnl.. omg) ?
[15:05] <Trijntje> stefg: I have 2 GB RAM, 4 CPU's. Encryption could make the transfer slow, but should leave the rest of my PC usable right?
[15:05] <sjoos> SLXmnT: you want to use it as boot-drive?
[15:05] <Sidewinder1> Trijntje: hmmm, encryption could have something to do with it  I agree!
[15:06] <SLXmnT> sjoerd i want it permanent drive as a HDD
[15:07] <SLXmnT> i hv a plan- 4GB install OS, other 4 GB my extra drive
[15:07] <stefg> Trijntje: if some I/O component is saturated the whole machine gets laggy... if /tmp isn't fast, the whole machine isn't fast.
[15:07] <Trijntje> Sidewinder1, stefg: Ill try writing data to a unencrypted fat later, see what happens
[15:08] <stefg> Trijntje: right...
[15:08] <Trijntje> stefg: bad plan?
[15:09] <saiki> hey all. what would cause a raphics safe mode to happen for gpu errors?
[15:09] <saiki> I.E. how do i fix it when the driver somehow doesn't install correctly
[15:10] <stefg> Trijntje: no... the best thing to further debug the issue. if it's still slow, i'd look at hardware (irq conflicts needing a boot paramter possibly)
[15:10] <zebaztian> HELP!!!: I'm having trouble downloading some files from a website, basically when I right click and save link as, it starts to download but the file size is smaller than what it should be, in other words, I am trying to get an mp3 file that's 30 min long and it won't download completely,  only partially, leaving me with a file that ends abruptly, is there a way to download through the terminal?
[15:10] <legend2440> lucy1989: open system>admin>hardware drivers are there drivers in there and are they activated?
[15:10] <disappearedng> How do I ask my dns server to give me another IP
[15:11] <Myrtti> zebaztian: use wget?
[15:11] <stefg> zebaztian: wget -c [URL]
[15:11] <saiki> hey all. what would cause a graphics safe mode to happen with gpu drivers?
[15:12] <Trijntje> stefg: where should i look to check for conflicts? i'm new to that kind of thing
[15:12] <stefg> saiki: an ATI card :-)
[15:12] <stefg> Trijntje: dmesg
[15:13] <saiki> stefg, it's an nvidia Sparkle 9400gt card
[15:13] <stefg> Trijntje: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit , then post the link you get in here
[15:13] <ubuntu> Where I can edit the message that appears BEFORE you type the password if somebody wants to access my server ?
[15:13] <zebaztian> stefg, where will that download to? home folder?
[15:14] <djbpython> anything i can do in ubuntu to view data in ssl traffic?
[15:14] <stefg> zebaztian: the folder you are currently in (the prompt says it)
[15:14] <eboyjr> ubuntu: Would that maybe be /etc/issue ?
[15:15] <Elive_user70_fr> hi
[15:15] <ubuntu> eboyjr, that msg doesn't appear BEFORE I login to my server..
[15:15] <stefg> !fixres | saiki
[15:15] <eboyjr> ubuntu: Oh that's after you login.. Okay. I'll do some Googling for you.
[15:15] <ubuntu> eboyjr, I need to set a msg that appears after you type the username, and BEFORE u type the password
[15:15] <ubuntu> :D
[15:16] <saiki> stefg, anywhere a log would show up?
[15:17] <lucy1989> legend2440: It says "No propietary drivers are in use on this system" and the list is blank
[15:17] <eboyjr> ubuntu: Hrm. I don't know if that's possible. What does it say right now after you enter a username?
[15:17] <stefg> saiki: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:17] <ubuntu> eboyjr, I saw servers with this kind of message :| so I know it's possible ..
[15:18] <ubuntu> payed shells have this too
[15:18] <saiki> stefg, this is the card being used: SF-PX94GT1024U2-HP Passive  (nvidia driver from nvidia.com fails, repo one causes more problems)
[15:18] <stefg> !envy | saiki
[15:20] <saiki> stefg, did it through command line in recovery and it failed, any way to purge it and start over?
[15:20] <saiki> (not this isn't my pc having the problem, but a friend's that I'm walkign through it)
[15:20] <stefg> saiki: i think the nvidia-installer can be run with a -uninstall switch
[15:20] <legend2440> lucy1989: ok well i think there are proprietary drivers available for the HD 4350 that may work better than the open source  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[15:21] <saiki> ok, I'll see what happens when she gets back
[15:21] <djbloc1> Does anyone know of something similar to Crossloop (http://www.crossloop.com/) but works for Ubuntu/Linux?
[15:22] <lucy1989> legend2440: I'm downloading the driver for my graphics card. it's a .run file. what do i do with this?
[15:22] <IdleOne> !freenx
[15:22] <stefg> djbloc1: vnc .... look at vino or x11vnc
[15:22] <moreno> ciao
[15:22] <moreno> ├© la prima volta che uso questo programma├╣
[15:22] <IdleOne> !freenx > djbloc1
[15:22] <IdleOne> !it | moreno
[15:23] <stefg> djbloc1: yeah use freeNX... vnc is only good for local networks
[15:23] <Defcon> #remote-exploit
[15:23] <Myrtti> stefg: not strictly true
[15:24] <beachdaze> is anyone using tinychat and ubuntu 9.04?  I can't seem to connect
[15:24] <stefg> Myrtti: ok, if you tunnel through ssh ... but ssh-tunneled vnc is a PITA compared to freenX
[15:24] <djbloc1> idleone, stefg: thanks will have a look at freenx.
[15:24] <Sidewinder1> lucy1989>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.run
[15:25] <dupa> exit
[15:25] <saiki> stefg, sh nvidia185.run -uninstall?
[15:25] <stefg> saiki: read the docu ... it's been a whie since i last compiled my own kernel
[15:26] <stefg> saiki: ... but i think it'S safe to just try that out
[15:26] <legend2440> lucy1989: here are some instructions for installing ati drivers. i have nvidia so not really familiar with installing them  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually
[15:26] <saiki> stefg, it's not its own kernel. and I did read the docu
[15:26] <disappearedng> WHY? sudo dhclient: DHCPACK of 59.66.241.30 from 59.66.241.1   bound to 59.66.241.30 -- renewal in 3520 seconds.
[15:27] <Trijntje> stefg: http://pastebin.com/f1a39fb89. It took a while to install that program
[15:27] <lucy1989> legend2440: thank you so much!
[15:27] <stefg> saiki: what i meant is that the last time i dealt directly with the nvidia-package was when i was running my own kernel (must have been dapper or so)
[15:27] <legend2440> lucy1989: your welcome
[15:27] <stefg> Trijntje: ok .. let'S see
[15:28] <djbloc1> Not clear on wiki whether Freenx works well over firewalls. What Crossloop provides is a simple frontend where all you do is enter a generated key and it does all the work regarding transversing firewalls and the like. I looking for something similar to help support new user to Ubuntu. I suppose i'm looking for a frontend on linux that is similar?
[15:28] <cwolfx> hi
[15:28] <disappearedng> hey anyone familiar with how I can renew my IP?
[15:29] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> noob: You can set a Banner option in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[15:29] <Trijntje> stefg: the disk is sdg by the way
[15:30] <hyun_yoo_it> help me
[15:30] <ikonia> hyun_yoo_it: what's the problem
[15:30] <Myrtti> !ask | hyun_yoo_it
[15:30] <Sidewinder1> disappearedng>I just turn off my router, leave it off for an hour or so...New IP; if that's what you're lookin' to do...
[15:30] <hyun_yoo_it> i dont setting yahoo messenger
[15:30] <disappearedng> Slidewinder1: no that's not what I am looking for
[15:30] <ManDay_> can someone point me to an example of how to setup a working wireless network with wpa_supplicant?
[15:31] <disappearedng> but thx
[15:31] <Sidewinder1> Soeey :-(
[15:31] <ikonia> !wireless > ManDay_
[15:31] <Sidewinder1> sorry
[15:31] <ManDay_> thanks ikonia
[15:32] <zebaztian> hey i tried using wget -c and it seems to have got stuck at 77% and it's no longer downloading, any ideas as to why this might have happened?
[15:32] <heogen> I would like to hear music in this web page http://www.fulltono.com/
Are you using Pidgin?
[15:32] <heogen> but I can't
[15:32] <hyun_yoo_it> yes
[15:33] <heogen> what's problem I should to install please
You should be able to add your yahoo info and it should do the rest.
[15:33] <anonymouz> where do you get the madwifi driver from?
[15:33] <ikonia> hozomean: looks like it's flash
[15:33] <ikonia> !flash > heogen
[15:33] <stefg> Trijntje: run free -m and see how much swap is used
[15:33] <heogen> ok
[15:34] <hyun_yoo_it> thank shidewinder1
[15:34] <Dr-Willis> heogen:  i cant even get thta site to work with Windows....
[15:34] <ManDay_> I'm not quire sure whether my Wireless device is currently working - i got a RaLink thing but I think that's (despite RaLink being known for wireless) my wired interface - how can i make sure?
[15:34] <Dr-Willis> heogen:  Oh wait there it went. :)
[15:34] <Dr-Willis> heogen:  it seems to be using flash. so install the flash player.
[15:35] <heogen> dr-willis I installed
[15:35] <saiki> stefg, can you look at this? I don't understand what it's talkign about: http://www.pastebin.org/17403
[15:35] <ikonia> ManDay_: ifconfig and iwconfig will show you the device, however just use the gnome network applet
[15:35] <ikonia> ManDay_: this should be covered in the url ubottu sent you
[15:35] <heogen> Dr-willis and not work get
[15:35] <anonymouz> DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO GET MADWIFI DRIVER USING APT-GET PLZ
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> hyun_yoo_it>Make sure you're using this "page server". cn.scs.msg.yahoo.com
[15:35] <diego_> hi, i m finding a card game that  you must learn to play by your own, the players that allready know the rules do not teach it to the new players.  somebody know its name ?
[15:35] <ikonia> !madwifi > anonymouz
[15:35] <ManDay_> ikonia, i dont have gnome installed yet
[15:35] <ikonia> anonymouz: please don't use caps lick
[15:35] <ManDay_> ikonia, i dont have iwconfig either
[15:35] <IdleOne> heh
[15:36] <ikonia> ManDay_: there is a kde version, this again should be covered in the link ubottu sent you
[15:36] <ManDay_> all i have is ifconfig and wpa_supplicant
[15:36] <Sidewinder1> hyun_yoo_it>Yahoo changed it a few months back.
[15:36] <anonymouz> OK
[15:36] <ManDay_> ikonia, i DONT HAVE X
[15:36] <anonymouz> sorry ok
[15:36] <ikonia> ManDay_: you don't have wirless tools installed then - is this from your minimal install
[15:36] <heogen> Dr-willis I can to watch video from youtube
[15:36] <ikonia> ManDay_: don't use caps
[15:36] <stefg> saiki: ABI is application binary interface ... versions or compilers do not match
[15:36] <saiki> any idea how to fix it?
[15:36] <ManDay_> i know that i dont have wireless tools installed
[15:36] <ManDay_> thats why im asking for help
[15:36] <heogen> Dr-willis but not from this page www.fulltono.com
[15:36] <hyun_yoo_it> thank
[15:36] <ikonia> ManDay_: so install it then ?
[15:36] <ManDay_> if i had wireless tools installed it wouldnt be hard
[15:36] <ManDay_> ikonia, how could i without internet
[15:37] <ManDay_> i need to get wlan running to get internet
[15:37] <Sidewinder1> hyun_yoo_it>My pleasure!
[15:37] <ikonia> ManDay_: how are you installing from a minimal CD without the internet
[15:37] <diego_> please.....i m finding a card game that  you must learn to play by your own, the players that allready know the rules do not teach it to the new players.  somebody know its name ?
[15:37] <ManDay_> after i was done i have unplugged from the internet
[15:37] <ikonia> ManDay_: plug it back in then
[15:37] <digilord__> diego_: Shit on yer neighbor?
[15:37] <anonymouz> why does net user not work?
[15:37] <ikonia> digilord__: control your language please
[15:37] <IdleOne> ManDay_: download the packages you need from packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them to the machine that needs them with a cd or usb stick
[15:37] <HypothesisFrog> how can I make an iso image of an audio CD ?
[15:37] <Trijntje> !ot| diego_
[15:37] <digilord__> IdleOne: That's the name of the card game
[15:37] <ManDay_> ikonia, I would like to get wlan running with only wpa_supplicant and ifconfig!
[15:38] <hyun_yoo_it> not found
[15:38] <anonymouz> is linux better than windows
[15:38] <IdleOne> digilord__: ?
[15:38] <ikonia> ManDay_: plug it in -4~ without wirless tools your car won't have wirless extensions
[15:38] <saiki> anonymouz, yes and no..
[15:38] <ikonia> card even
[15:38] <Strife89> anonymouz: That's largely a question of preference.
[15:38] <Dr-Willis> anonymouz:  its a tool.
[15:38] <ikonia> anonymouz: depends - try it see what you think
[15:38] <ManDay_> ikonia, i do have wpa_supplicant, doesnt that suffice?
[15:38] <Sidewinder1> hyun_yoo_it>Strange, what country are you?
[15:38] <stefg> Trijntje: have you  looked how your memory is used, and how much swap?
[15:38] <saiki> anonymouz, but can we not get into that arguement here?
[15:38] <ikonia> ManDay_: no
[15:38] <anonymouz> ok
[15:38] <ManDay_> why not?
[15:38] <hyun_yoo_it> i from vietnames
[15:39] <Trijntje> stefg: the transfer was completed, i'm now sending the files again
[15:39] <ikonia> ManDay_: if you know it works - then do it and stop asking
[15:39] <ikonia> ManDay_: you keep asking what to do - I'm getting you to get it working and your constantly questioning it
[15:39] <saiki> stefg, any idea how to fix it?
[15:39] <ManDay_> i dont know whether it works
[15:39] <stefg> Trijntje: run free -m | pastebinit
[15:39] <ikonia> ManDay_: ok - it doesn't
[15:39] <ManDay_> and i asked why
[15:39] <ikonia> ManDay_: plug it in to the internet and set yourself up
[15:39] <Sidewinder1> hyun_yoo_it>Maybe they use a different server, perhaps you could ask Yahoo Support?
[15:39] <anonymouz> which is the better driver for atheros chipset madwifi or ath5k ??
[15:39] <ikonia> ManDay_: because wpa_suplicant does not provide wirless extensions for your card
[15:39] <heogen> I can't to hear the music form www.fulltono.com and I installed flash player
[15:39] <ManDay_> ikonia, if it was that easy i would have done already. please try to help me with what i have
[15:39] <hacktop> hey
[15:39] <hyun_yoo_it> yes , may be
[15:39] <ikonia> ManDay_: no - plug it in
[15:40] <heogen> what's else can to install
[15:40] <stefg> saiki: is that waht happens in envy?
[15:40] <digilord__> Anyone know when Ubuntu will release FF3.5 as a general release instead of a beta?
[15:40] <heogen> for hear the music please
[15:40] <Trijntje> stefg: http://pastebin.com/f7b3b8b21
[15:40] <Strife89> Aha! http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6990421&postcount=17
[15:40] <ManDay_> ikonia, I'm already seing my wireless interface in ifconfig - what would an additional "wireless extension" do?
[15:40] <saiki> stefg, it's what happened with sh nvidia*.run in recovery
[15:40] <Strife89> FINALLY found the reason for the problem. ^^;
[15:40] <hacktop> what command should I add to open a aplication shortcut in KDE running in a terminal?
[15:40] <ikonia> ManDay_: allow you to interface with the wirless device
[15:41] <ManDay_> but i already got an interface up and running - its deing displayed in ifconfig?
[15:41] <Trijntje> stefg: the transfer speed is now higher than last time. 20MB/se instead of just 6 MB/sec
[15:41] <ikonia> ManDay_: it's not bound to a wirless network
[15:41] <beans43> "The greeter application appears to be crashing. Click OK to try another one"
[15:41] <spree> Problem - My PC locks up, and I can't recover, I have to manually reboot. The only thing I can think of that is in common in all the lockups is there is sound playing, but the lockups happen intermittently. I have not found anything revealing in logs, but I may be looking in the wrong place. Jaunty, AMD64
[15:41] <beans43> ^ help mine is not alpha version, it's the final release, clean install
[15:42] <beans43> but i still get the above message
[15:42] <spree> The lockup has an infinitely repeating half-second clip of sound
[15:42] <stefg> Trijntje: your swap is not working, and you have out of memory warnings in your dmesg. Misconfigured box and a KDE bug
[15:42] <anonymouz> is madwifi or ath5k driver better
[15:42] <twright> beans43, that sounds like a kernel panic
[15:42] <ikonia> anonymouz: again - it depends on your personal setup
[15:43] <beans43> twright, no, i am more in panic than the kernel
[15:43] <Trijntje> stefg: i did recently install KDE-deskto next to ubuntu
[15:43] <stefg> Trijntje: so the cause is not encrypted copying to the disk, it's just that another problem surfaces then
[15:43] <ManDay_> ikonia, where can i read more about this?
[15:43] <ikonia> ManDay_: on the internet
[15:43] <agroker> hello, I'm running Gnome and all the elements look huge on my 1920x1200 screen, what is an easy GUI way to decrease their size?
[15:43] <twright> beans43, you should try and find more info then file a bug
[15:43] <anonymouz> ok
[15:43] <ManDay_> ikonia, this does not help me
[15:43] <Trijntje> stefg: i do have a swap partition, but its not being used right now?
[15:43] <ikonia> ManDay_: use a search engine
[15:44] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> agroker: For example, GTK+ elements like buttons?
[15:44] <ManDay_> ikonia, you are being offensive
[15:44] <ManDay_> im not stupid
[15:44] <ikonia> ManDay_: no, I'm not
[15:44] <stefg> Trijntje: no, it's not used, probably the UUID changed
[15:44] <ikonia> ManDay_: what do you want me to do - search for you ?
[15:44] <ManDay_> yes you are. "where can i read more?" "on the internet".
[15:44] <agroker> Ubuntu_Helper_00, yes, for example, all the menus in this xchat, firefox etc
[15:44] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> agroker: There is a GTK+ human theme that someone made and they took the padding out. You can use that and also decrease the font size.
[15:44] <ManDay_> no, i thought you could tell me a specific man-page or help-page
[15:44] <ikonia> ManDay_: I've given you info, I've offered you a solution,
[15:44] <ikonia> ManDay_: you don't have the packages installed - so there are no man pages
[15:45] <stefg> Trijntje: look at /etc/fstab, then look at 'sudo blkid'
[15:45] <ManDay_> i'm currently installing them
[15:45] <agroker> Ubuntu_Helper_00, the screen resolution is proper, but everything looks like I'm running 800x600
[15:45] <ikonia> ManDay_: how are you installing them - you don't have an interenet connection ?
[15:45] <ManDay_> so what manpage is it which tells me more about the technical background?
[15:45] <ikonia> ManDay_: man pages tell you about commands not background
[15:45] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> agroker: If you are running compiz, you can also remove the window decorations and access menus/move/resize with the Alt key.
[15:45] <ManDay_> ikonia, that depends
[15:45] <Trijntje> stefg: You are right, wrong UUID for the swap partion. Thanks! Can you give me a pointer to that KDE problem? i was thinking about switching to KDE.
[15:46] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> agroker: Maybe it is actually the wrong resolution?
[15:46] <stefg> Trijntje: No i don't touch KDE with a 10 ft. pole. i only see/ plasma: out of memory/ in dmesg
[15:46] <spree> Problem - My PC locks up, and I can't recover, I have to manually reboot. The only thing I can think of that is in common in all the lockups is there is sound playing, but the lockups happen intermittently. I have not found anything revealing in logs, but I may be looking in the wrong place. The lockup has an infinitely repeating half-second of whatever sound was playing. Jaunty, AMD64
[15:47] <ikonia> spree: when it locks up, press the capslock key, does the light on your keyboard go on/off ?
[15:47] <spree> ikonia, That's a great question. Let's assume it does.
[15:47] <ikonia> spree: why assume ?
[15:47] <ikonia> spree: find out
[15:48] <spree> ikonia, because if it doesn't it's probably hardware and i don't want to have to quit and come back on here at a later date
[15:48] <Sidewinder1> spree>May also be a RAM problem. Have you tried "memtest" on boot-up?
[15:48] <ikonia> spree: not at all, that doesn't mean it's hardware, but it could be
[15:48] <ikonia> spree: it does say if the kernel has totally locked up or not
[15:48] <spree> ok i will do something that should cause it to happen more often, i run World In Conflict on WINE
[15:48] <ikonia> spree: so I suggest testing it
[15:48] <clintonp> hi i need to open port 8000. http://localhost:8080 works fine, but ip http://10.0.0.10:8000 gives failed to connect
[15:48] <ikonia> clintonp: pastebin the output of ifconfig ?
[15:48] <ikonia> clintonp: what's listening on port 8000 ?
[15:49] <spree> ikonia, okay i will do something that will likely cause it to crash and get back to you
[15:49] <stefg> Trijntje: and once you have your swap working again consider putting /tmp into a tmpfs . speeds things up when using encryption and makes sure you always have a clean /tmp at reboot
[15:49] <ikonia> spree: sounds good
[15:50] <stefg> Trijntje: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs3.html
[15:50] <clintonp> http://pastebin.com/d4f8a6421
[15:51] <Trijntje> stefg: ill look into that, thanks for the information
[15:51] <ikonia> clintonp: what is listening on 8000 ?
[15:51] <Trijntje> stefg: can you tell me what you don't like about KDE? Or is that forbidden here from fear of flamewars?
[15:52] <clintonp> http://pastebin.com/d7720a42d
[15:52] <clintonp> clintonp:ikonia:http://pastebin.com/d7720a42d
[15:52] <ikonia> clintonp: no, what application have you configued to listen on port 8000
[15:52] <clintonp> django
[15:52] <ikonia> clintonp: that netstat output shows it only listening on 127.0.0.1
[15:53] <ikonia> clintonp: so you need to tell it to listen on all interefaces or listen on the 10.x interface
[15:53] <stefg> Trijntje: KDE 4 isn't stable enough for my taste, and i find KDE quite distrcting... I get my stuff done quicker in Gnome, because i'm not temted to tweak here and fumble there.
[15:53] <joni> whats the command to generate a generic xorg.conf if one doesnt exist?
[15:53] <clintonp> ikonia:how do i do that
[15:53] <ikonia> clintonp: change the config file
[15:53] <ikonia> clintonp: there must be a parameter that says "listen on this interface" or "listen on these ip addresses"
[15:54] <beans43> wlan question; there are two essid named linksys on my area, how to i connect to the one i want via command line, iwconfig wlan0 essid linksys  ; did not work
[15:54] <moonshine> beans43, do you have broadcom wireless card?
[15:54] <ikonia> beans43: depends on encyption
[15:54] <joni> beans43, not sure exactly but if your using encryption then there are more parameters, man iwconfig or iwconfig --help
[15:54] <beans43> moonshine, i don't know but it work if i am in gnome, automatic
[15:55] <miguelonnnn> beans43 please
[15:55] <miguelonnnn> tell me what error did you receive?
[15:55] <miguelonnnn> i tried too and won't work
[15:55] <ManDay_> since i installed gdm (x isnt running yet), after i login in the gnome login thingy i get taken back to a tty but the text is very small - can i set its size somewhere?
[15:55] <beans43> joni, yes, how to specify the correct mac for AP?
[15:55] <miguelonnnn> i get something like " invalid parameter"
[15:55] <joni> whats the command to generate a generic xorg.conf if one doesnt exist? ikonia happen to know?
[15:55] <moonshine> beans43, in terminal, write: lspci and you will see what type of wlan card you have
[15:55] <Trijntje> stefg: I see, ill try it out a while before installing KDE permanently.
[15:55] <ikonia> ManDay_: that's normally a frambuffer option
[15:55] <beans43> miguelonnnn, no error. i just can't get a dhcp release in console. before X, if i quit X.
[15:56] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> joni: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[15:56] <ikonia> ManDay_: it sounds like something is going wrong when you drop back to the framebuffer after gdm fails
[15:56] <ManDay_> ah i remember its compiled into the kernel, usually, isnt it?
[15:56] <joni> Ubuntu_Helper_00, ty
[15:56] <ikonia> ManDay_: the framebuffer is - yes
[15:56] <Trijntje> stefg: but this tmpfs, can i just say "mount tempfs /tmp -t tmpfs" and it magically works?
[15:56] <miguelonnnn> bean43, i type sudo iwconfig key mypassword and i get "invalid parameter"
[15:56] <ManDay_> ikonia, i think its not actually "failing" - it just takes me into a terminal because there is no x.
[15:56] <miguelonnnn> and if i type sudo iwconfig essid myessid it doesn't say anything, but when i do iwconfig essid is in blank
[15:57] <danceuntilwedie> Hello. I'm a longtime linux user, but I haven't used it as a desktop OS in about 4 years. I have a 64bit machine (intel core 2 duo something). Should I install the 64 bit or 32 bit version? Will I have any trouble with applications? I must be able to install flash :-)
[15:57] <ikonia> ManDay_: there has to be X, gdm can't run without X
[15:57] <ManDay_> ah yeah, but no xinit, ikonia
[15:57] <beans43> moonshine, lspci didnot say. any how my card works. but i want to connect to AP in console, and not start gnome
[15:57] <ManDay_> so you think this is an error?
[15:57] <joni> Ubuntu_Helper_00, output is: ackage `xorg-server' is not installed and no info is available.
[15:57] <iceroot> danceuntilwedie: depending on your ram to use 32bit or 64it
[15:57] <stefg> Trijntje: add a line to /etc/fstab.
[15:57] <iceroot> danceuntilwedie: and flash is working fine in 64bit jaunty for me
[15:57] <danceuntilwedie> I have 4GB of memoery -- forgot to add that, iceroot
[15:57] <stefg> tmpfs	/tmp	tmpfs	size=2048M	0	0
[15:57] <danceuntilwedie> and i plan on adding another 4
[15:58] <iceroot> danceuntilwedie: with 4gb you need 64bit or 32bit with pae
[15:58] <stefg> Trijntje: ^
[15:58] <ikonia> ManDay_: I think dropping back to the framebuffer in the wrong mode doens't sound good
[15:58] <danceuntilwedie> ok, I guess I will go with 64bit then. I'm hoping to bump it up to 8GB, so I guess 32bit is out of the question :-)
[15:58] <Trijntje> stefg: no making a new kernel?
[15:58] <ManDay_> ikonia, any way i could determine whether this is an error? check Xorg.0.log?
[15:58] <iceroot> danceuntilwedie: 32bit can only handle 4gb (ram + adress-bus)
[15:58] <ikonia> ManDay_: xorg log won't show it as it's not an xorg problem
[15:59] <moonshine> iceroot, i think the maximum is 3GB, maybe i am wrong :)
[15:59] <ikonia> ManDay_: I doubt it's an "error" more the framebuffer config not setup so it's dropping back to what it thinks is right
[15:59] <iceroot> moonshine: as i told, 4gb = ram + pci-adress-bus
[15:59] <beans43> miguelonnnn, i just don't know the full command linke to bind to AP.  so far i have iwcofig wlan0 essid MYLAN "something here for my AP MAC address"
[15:59] <moonshine> iceroot, sorry :) my mistake :)
[15:59] <miguelonnnn> yeah, but try this beans43
[15:59] <ManDay_> ikonia, yeah i see there must be something wrong, after entering some lines i notice that the framebuffer only takes up 1/4 of the screen
[15:59] <miguelonnnn> type sudo iwconfig key randomchars
[15:59] <danceuntilwedie> iceroot: so "ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent" ?
[16:00] <ikonia> ManDay_: yup, sounds like it's falling back to not the best mode
[16:00] <iceroot> danceuntilwedie: yes
[16:00] <danceuntilwedie> amd64 = intel and amd 64bit cpus?
[16:00] <ManDay_> ikonia, what should i do?
[16:00] <ikonia> ManDay_: quick dirty fix is to set it correctly at boot time
[16:00] <stefg> Trijntje: no.... only telling the existing kernel to use the cache for /tmp .... it defaults to half the ram, so you miight as well use 'defaults' instead of the size= ... parameter
[16:00] <miguelonnnn> to me it gives invalid argument , i can't set a key, nor essid
[16:00] <miguelonnnn> iwconfig is mad haha
[16:00] <ikonia> ManDay_: that way it "should" fall back to the same mode
[16:00] <danceuntilwedie> iceroot: thank you.
[16:00] <iceroot> danceuntilwedie: you are welcome
[16:00] <liquid> http://cambio.mendigogame.es/change_please/1687023/
[16:00] <beans43> iwconfig: unknown command "randomchars"
[16:00] <ManDay_> ikonia, in the kernel params?
[16:00] <beans43> miguelonnnn,
[16:00] <ikonia> ManDay_: bang on
[16:00] <miguelonnnn> beans, make sure you type the interface
[16:01] <liquid> http://cambio.mendigogame.es/change_please/1687023/ <---- enter please
[16:01] <miguelonnnn> it should be like this, sudo iwconfig eth1(substitute for your wireless interface) key randomchars
[16:01] <strAlan_> Is a list of all the mapped printers and network drives in a configuration file somewhere?  I'd like to transfer it to other machines.
[16:02] <ManDay_> ikonia, any suggestion waht exactly i'd have to set it to?
[16:02] <Sidewinder1> !es | liquid>
[16:02] <moonshine> does anyone knows with which version of gcc, the kernel 2.6.28-15 is compiled with?
[16:02] <ikonia> ManDay_: depends on the card, monitor mode, a good option is "ask" so you can test a few modes
[16:03] <moonshine> anyone?
[16:03] <ikonia> moonshine: check /proc/version
[16:03] <Trijntje> stefg: and telling the kernel to use the tmpfs for /tmp happens when you put that line in fstab?
[16:03] <ManDay_> ikonia, you are well aware of the fact that on boot time the fb looks correctly?
[16:04] <ikonia> ManDay_: yup, I'm suggesting setting it so it knows what to fall back to
[16:04] <ManDay_> ok
[16:04] <beans43> iwconfig eth0 ap 00:60:1D:01:23:45  i think it's this
[16:04] <beans43> miguelonnnn,
[16:04] <ikonia> ManDay_: may not fix it, but it seems the most obvious first thing to do
[16:04] <moonshine> ikonia, nothing there...just blank file
[16:04] <miguelonnnn> yeah beans43?
[16:04] <ikonia> ManDay_: playing around with the framebuffer is a drag, so maybe setting up X would be my next step
[16:04] <miguelonnnn> ah sry
[16:05] <ikonia> moonshine: it's /proc/version - it's not a file, cat it
[16:05] <stefg> Trijntje: right
[16:05] <moonshine> aaah
[16:05] <miguelonnnn> did it work for you beans43?
[16:05] <miguelonnnn> that selects the acces point
[16:05] <beans43> miguelonnnn, i don't know, i have to quit gnome to try it.
[16:05] <beans43> bye
[16:05] <miguelonnnn> why?
[16:05] <ManDay_> ikonia, i think i got a little closer to the problem: when i explicitly set the session to "GNOME failsafe" in the gdm login, i get an error "Could not find the GNOME installation, will try running the Failsafe xterm session"
[16:06] <beans43> cause it's for console, before X-session
[16:06] <ikonia> ManDay_: nah, I think that's just a red herring as an xterm can't run either
[16:06] <miguelonnnn> can't iwconfig work in x session?
[16:06] <bobnn> howdy.  Got an XP desktop.  Wanna put 9.04 on it dual-boot.  I know to defrag and reboot in XP, then it looks pretty straight forward from the vid I've seen.  Any gotchas?
[16:06] <miguelonnnn> i didn't know
[16:06] <beans43> gnome's network manager auto matic does itf or me, so i hav e no way of telling
[16:06] <miguelonnnn> ok
[16:06] <stefg> bobnn: you have to defaet Murphys law : take a backup NOW
[16:07] <strAlan_> Is a list of all the mapped printers and network drives in a configuration file somewhere?  I'd like to transfer it to other machines.
[16:07] <bobnn> nuts.  no backup set up.
[16:07] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> bobnn: dun dun dun :P
[16:07] <Sidewinder1> bobnn>http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[16:07] <jiohdi> one of the murphy's laws is that knowing murphys law will not help
[16:07] <bobnn> Oh, wait, I put everything I care about under one data directory, so I can put it on my other Linux box.
[16:07] <bobnn> almost forgot about that.
[16:08] <stefg> bobnn: so don't come crying when gparted ate your partition table
[16:08] <miguelonnnn> please, how can i tell dd to start copying from the end of the disk? I Know i can make some maths dividing the bytes of my disk on 512 and skiping the ones i don't like, but ... isn't an easy way to just "start count off the end?"
[16:08] <ManDay_> grrr i think ill just do the whole installation over again...! say, can i use a proxy when installing the ubuntu minimal thing?
[16:08] <bobnn> Well, my data will be on another linux box and I've got the recovery CD so it's not a disaster.
[16:08] <ikonia> ManDay_: I think there is an option for a proxy
[16:08] <Trijntje> stefg: thanks a lot for all your help! Ill go and read some more about tmpfs
[16:09] <johnta> has anyone seen Live Free or Die Hard
[16:09] <Myrtti> johnta: how's that related to Ubuntu Support?
[16:09] <johnta> I would like to ask some questions
[16:10] <bobnn> anybody got a fave 'ghost' prod for backing XP up, stroing on a Linux box?  That would be the way to go for me.
[16:10] <xangua> !ot | johnta
[16:10] <ikonia> bobnn: ghost will work fine - just store the image on the ubuntu box
[16:10] <ManDay_> When installing ubuntu from the minimal installer, is there any way of getting the whole X11/gnome thing running like in the vanilla default through installing certain packages WITHOUT installing the whole "ubuntu-desktop" meta package?
[16:10] <bobnn> time to google, just wondering whaty folks here like.
[16:10] <johnta> well I am looking for a good conky
[16:11] <tumii> Help please! I did exactly like this(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928546) said, but pSX still does not work!1
[16:11] <iceroot> ManDay_: install gnome  sudo apt-get install gnome
[16:11] <ikonia> ManDay_: the meta package is the easiest way, unless you know what packages you want
[16:11] <bobnn> ikonia: there is a free ghost?
[16:11] <ikonia> ManDay_: it's easier to install it and remove what you don't need
[16:11] <ikonia> bobnn: don't know, ask in ##windows
[16:11] <erUSUL> bobnn: ntfsclone ?
[16:11] <jiohdi> !gimp
[16:11] <duffydack> bobnn, I use clonezilla with my dual boot xp/ubuntu
[16:12] <bobnn> erUSUL: have you used that?
[16:12] <toomuchpower> Is there any way to configure a laptop such that it uses as less power as Vista does?
[16:12] <toomuchpower> And, why isn't this done by default?
[16:12] <bobnn> clonezilla? will check it out.
[16:13] <toomuchpower> The specs for my laptop say 4 hours. With Ubuntu this is less than 2 hours. On Vista I know people that have 3 hours. Even when idling with the laptop screen closed, I don't attain that.
[16:13] <tumii> Help please! I did exactly like this(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928546) said, but pSX still does not work!1
[16:14] <Myrtti> toomuchpower: use powertop or other tools to check what keeps the hardware busy
[16:14] <ManDay_> ikonia, the meta package comes with a load of things that I know I don't want! i find myself messing arround with wicked deps every time i go that way (from more to less). i was hoping for a very small installation with only the gnome desktop working fine (without the gnome tools and such). iceroot, hell, i thought gdm would have had gnome as a dependency! i was mistaken! yes i m installing gnome know hoping that it will cut it
[16:16] <shamm> hi all
[16:16] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> hello, shamm
[16:16] <tumii> Can someone help me with pSX? I did exactly like this(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928546) said, but pSX still does not work!
[16:16] <Sidewinder1> !repeat | tumii
[16:16] <shamm> what is the recommended format for external hard drive?
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> ext3
[16:17] <johnta> can someone help me get into the right channel
[16:17] <johnta> ?
[16:17] <erUSUL> bobnn: once i made a clone of my ntfs partition yes... but never actully restored it.
[16:17] <shamm> thanks Sidewinder1
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> NP
[16:17] <johnta> I am wanting to know if their is a channel for themes and conky
[16:18] <bobnn> anyone tried "PING (Partimage Is Not Ghost)"
[16:19] <frogzoo> sounds promising - very promising
[16:19] <bobnn> this looks nice because it's better than recovery-CD + data
[16:19] <joni> anyone get compiz effects going on " Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL"?
[16:19] <iceroot> shamm: fat32 (vfat) is recommend for external drives, if you want also windows to access the drive
[16:20] <tumii> Can someone help me with pSX? I did exactly like this(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928546) said, but pSX still does not work!
[16:20] <n8tuser> ManDay_ -> of what i recall you can use tasksel to choose the package, see what this command can do for you..  debconf-get-selections --installer > listholder
[16:20] <shamm> irceroot: Linux only ;)
[16:20] <shamm> thanks iceroot.
[16:20] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: have you tried powertop?
[16:20] <iceroot> shamm: then ext3
[16:20] <toomuchpower> Myrtti: ok, I used powertop.
[16:20] <bobnn> Well, I'm gonna backup my data to another system, also use PING, and do the normal Ubuntu dual-boot install and figure I'm covered.
[16:20] <ManDay_> n8tuser, im redoing the whole install right now, ill keep in mind
[16:20] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: just did.
[16:20] <shamm> i was wondering about ext2, ext3, etc...
[16:20] <toomuchpower> toomuchpower: it said something about sata and a dirty cache.
[16:21] <n8tuser> ManDay_ -> that debconf command shows you whats installed i believed
[16:21] <bobnn> that should be paranoid enough.
[16:21] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I told the program that it could do the things it suggested.
[16:21] <iceroot> shamm: ext2 is good for SSD, ext3 is good for a normal HDD, ext4 is not long tested
[16:21] <tstebut> hello
[16:21] <jkraunel> hi
[16:21] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: yes, you can accept those changes, and then see what causes the most wakeups
[16:21] <Sidewinder1> !hi
[16:21] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I think another big user is my wireless when I am not using wireless.
[16:21] <tstebut> I modified mounting point through gui on my device icon
[16:21] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: but I am not sure of that.
[16:21] <shamm> iceroot: thanks for informative description.
[16:21] <tstebut> it failed
[16:22] <beans43> miguelonnnn, it didn't work
[16:22] <n8tuser> toomuchpower -> yes, the wifi is constantly on, to send out keep alive stuff
[16:22] <tstebut> and now I have to mount it manually (shall command) and I cant get my icons back
[16:22] <jkraunel> does anyone know a good media player that includes an audio equalizer?
[16:22] <beans43> how to check gnome's network manger's wireless setting used for iwconfig?
[16:22] <tstebut> How can I configure this ? Anyone ?
[16:22] <opp> df
[16:22] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: what's this?  47,2% (307,3)       <interrupt> : HDA Intel
[16:23] <toomuchpower> I think it is the sound, but the sound is disabled.
[16:23] <jkraunel> i guess i can just use winamp
[16:23] <miguelonnnn> wow
[16:23] <toomuchpower> A machine using  lots of power when the sound is disabled, suxors, imho.
[16:23] <hacktop> which program is good for screenshots in KDE?
[16:23] <miguelonnnn> then we've got same problems
[16:23] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: muted or disabled?
[16:23] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: muted.
[16:24] <miguelonnnn> i'll tell you if i solve it ok?
[16:24] <kudi1> is the kernel from ubuntu diffrent from the one on the mini cd?
[16:24] <toomuchpower> n8tuser: any way to disable it?
[16:24] <hacktop> anyone?
[16:24] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: you can disable sound with this command: sudo modprobe -r HDA intel, if you are sure that is your sound
[16:25] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: do you have 4 C-states btw in powertop?
[16:25] <toomuchpower> Wakeups-from-idle per second : 824,0    interval: 10,0s
[16:25] <n8tuser> toomuchpower -> i am not sure other than turning it off via an external switch, you can try disabling the interface with ifdown
[16:25] <shamm> formatting my external HDD, looking for best 1 TB External SSD, anyone got website to recommend? (I'm googling right now)
[16:25] <toomuchpower> Your CPU supports the following C-states : C1 C2 C3 C4  Your BIOS reports the following C-states : C1 C2
[16:25] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: yes
[16:25] <iceroot> shamm: 1TB SSD?
[16:25] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: 800 is realy bad
[16:25] <shamm> Or highest available out there.
[16:26] <DeSian> any ide about fix this error http://paste.org/pastebin/view/10400 ?
[16:26] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: there should be an option in you bios to activate C3 and C4, these use the least power
[16:26] <iceroot> shamm: have seen 128GB SSD (more then 1000Ōé¼)
[16:26] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I think you are supposed to use powertop when you are not doing anything, right?
[16:26] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I am using Firefox to chat, so, I am doing something.
[16:26] <shamm> $524.95 for 128 GB External SSD
[16:27] <shamm> hmm...
[16:27] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I will try the BIOS later.
[16:27] <iceroot> shamm: why need a SSD? just use a normal drive
[16:27] <toomuchpower> Anything else?
[16:27] <leaf-sheep> hacktop: I use scrot myself.  It's a command-line.  You open the terminal and run "scrot"
[16:27] <shamm> iceroot, if it is affordable, I would like to have one.
[16:27] <toomuchpower> It would of course be a lot better, if Ubuntu would recognize my model and configure everything optimally based on that.
[16:27] <n8tuser> hacktop try import
[16:27] <shamm> +$1k is out of my range though.
[16:28] <Ubuntu_Helper_00> shamm: If you care for the extra speed use an SSD. Otherwise don't waste your money. If you do use it, remember to set the correct kernel arguments to make it more efficient.
[16:28] <iceroot> shamm: think of that SSD has limit write-operations
[16:28] <Sidewinder1> DeSian>Perhaps you should "untick" CD in your sources.
[16:28] <twright> shamm, I have a 1TB iomega external hd and it works great
[16:28] <twright> it is not worth going ssd as it is cheaper just to get standard drives
[16:28] <shamm> Ubuntu_Helper_00: gotcha.
[16:28] <leaf-sheep> shamm: $524.95 for 128 GB External SSD?  Wow.  You could use that money instead to build a nice HTPC.
[16:29] <DeSian> Sidewinder1, correct fix it thnx
[16:29] <Sidewinder1> Welks
[16:29] <shamm> I already got 1 Tb external HDD -- I  should be satisfied with it.
[16:29] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: well, what is optimal? if your on powersafe your laptop is not as fast. And you can use it when you are doing something.
[16:29] <twright> shamm, for an external drive, ssd's don't really give much benefit
[16:29]  * shamm puts his insatisable desires in control.
[16:29] <shamm> twright: gotcha
[16:30]  * shamm is trying to figure out fast way to restore a linux workstation using Symantec Ghost 
[16:30] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I don't mind 800 MHz for most tasks.
[16:30] <shamm> there are about 8 gho files
[16:31] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I set my gnome stuff to OnDemand, but still it uses more power than Vista would.
[16:31] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: turn down display brightness will help aswell, i can get ~20 wakeup per second when i'm doing nothing
[16:32] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: I also don't see why there isn't just one application to manage all power related stuff.
[16:32] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: btw, you have to keep powertop running, because it restores all changes when it extis
[16:32] <toomuchpower> Trijntje: uh, huh? Why does powertop do that?
[16:32] <dataviruset> hello, i run su -c <binary file> <user>, but my application cannot access my config files, does someone know what i'm doing wrong?
[16:32] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: again, because if you always have those settings your laptop is slow
[16:32] <twright> toomuchpower, powertop is designed so developers can make their software use less power
[16:33] <twright> a lot of power improvements are coming in karmic
[16:33] <toomuchpower> twright: You mean programmers that write hardware interface stuff?
[16:33] <n8tuser> dataviruset -> same user or a different user on the su parameter?
[16:33] <toomuchpower> twright: drivers
[16:34] <toomuchpower> I cannot imagine using powertop myself (I am a programmer too).
[16:34] <pranav> Hell, Which do I believe "gnome-system-monitor" or "top", top shows i have 4mb memory free, and gnome-system-monitor says I have 180 mb free. I have 255 mb physical memory
[16:34] <dataviruset> n8tuser: a different user, my user is oskar and i use sudo su -c ... arcemu
[16:34] <toomuchpower> pranav: CACHES
[16:34] <twright> toomuchpower, them and desktop applications (i.e gnome) - if your program runs all the time then you should use powertop
[16:34] <toomuchpower> pranav: Linux caches lots of stuff. Unused memory is wasted memory.
[16:34] <n8tuser> toomuchpower -> look deeper into hal  perhaps, that seems the main interface to the psuedo devices and real devices, now thats getting deep
[16:35] <n8tuser> dataviruset -> and whose environment you want to use? oskar or arcemu ?
[16:35] <dataviruset> n8tuser: arcemu
[16:35] <toomuchpower> twright: but all a programmer can do is make the program execute less instructions, or maybe more efficient ones, but almost nobody would optimize on that level, I think.
[16:35] <Trijntje> toomuchpower: I use powertop to see what programs do a lot of wakeups. Like wanda the fish, 4/sec ;)
[16:36] <n8tuser> dataviruset -> id say pass it on along as a parameter in that command line like PATH=...
[16:36] <toomuchpower> Maybe it is because I am opposed to polling to begin with.
[16:36] <toomuchpower> I would use something like inotify.
[16:36] <twright> toomuchpower, you can also reduce the cpu wakeups (when it checks etc.) which makes a huge difference
[16:36] <pranav> toomuchpower: Well, So what does this 4mb free memory means in TOP ?
[16:36] <heogen> Anyone of you can hear the music from www.fulltono.com?
[16:36] <toomuchpower> pranav: there is a manual, you know?
[16:37] <dataviruset> n8tuser, hmm, can i cheat a bit and create a shell script that CD to the directory? :p
[16:37] <toomuchpower> pranav: just read it and you know it, if you care about the details.
[16:37] <heogen> I don't have the option to play
[16:37] <pranav> toomuchpower: ok will see it
[16:37] <heogen> And I would like to hear this music
[16:37] <kryptos> does anyone know why certain movies/dvd's won't play with ubuntu?
[16:37] <n8tuser> dataviruset -> perhaps you can, you just have to ensure that when you spawn the new command, the environment you wish goes along with it
[16:37] <ziroday> heogen: please don't paste NSFW links here
[16:38] <Trijntje> !dvd|kryptos
[16:38] <Sidewinder1> heogen> Anyone of you can hear the music from www.fulltono.com  I can.
[16:38] <ziroday> kryptos: dvds or movies?
[16:38] <kryptos> certain dvd movies won't play
[16:38] <ziroday> kryptos: have you installed decss as per the link ubottu gave you above?
[16:39] <kryptos> they don't even show on the desktop when i put them in
[16:39] <twright> toomuchpower, this page from intel says some simple things programmers can do: http://lesswatts.org/documentation/sw-silicon-features/
[16:39] <moonshine> ikonia, i updated my ubuntu, and so as the gcc is updated, but i need the exact version so i can remove the version i have and install the version i need..
[16:39] <kryptos> i've tried a lot of things let me go read that page
[16:39] <kryptos> ty
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[16:40] <Sidewinder1> heogen>I simply enabled scripts in "Noscript" and it started playing; I didn't even click on anything.
[16:40] <SeaPhor> kryptos, try this? http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=54&Itemid=52
 if I installed the flash player
[16:40] <Sidewinder1> heogen>Yes, I would start with flash.
 let me see it
[16:41] <tumii> Can someone help me with pSX? I did exactly like this(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=928546) said, but pSX still does not work!
[16:41] <toomuchpower> Should I also enable laptop mode?
[16:41] <twright> toomuchpower, yes that does help
[16:41] <toomuchpower> twright: I am also not really scared of losing information.
 where I see the scripts?
[16:42] <dataviruset> n8tuser: thanks for your help :)
[16:42] <toomuchpower> So, as far as I am concerned, writing to the harddisk could be delayed by a few minutes even.
[16:42] <toomuchpower> I also have plenty of RAM.
[16:42] <n8tuser> dataviruset -> you're welcome
[16:42] <twright> toomuchpower, well you should not if you have a modern laptop hd
[16:42] <dataviruset> btw, UBUNTU ROCKS!
[16:43] <twright> toomuchpower, there are a lot of good tips on lesswatts.org
[16:43] <toomuchpower> A USB device is active 100,0% of the time: some broadcom device. I guess that's my wireless?
[16:43] <ziroday> toomuchpower: yes, not much you can do with that due to cruddy drivers
[16:43] <kryptos> !wow
[16:43] <shamm> dataviruset: ubuntu on quad rocks. :)
[16:43] <ziroday> toomuchpower: most of the time its less the optimal drivers that cause high power usage
[16:43] <toomuchpower> twright: This guy said it was all basically pointless: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=719130
[16:44] <toomuchpower> ziroday: and that's because there are no specifications available?
 hay man, I don't see it ts he scripts in this page
[16:44] <dataviruset> shamm: blah, i have dual-core :p
[16:44] <Sidewinder1> heogen> You don't understand :-) I run "Noscript" in Firefox..In order to get it to play I had to allow scripts to run. After looking at the html source, I see alot of 'javascript', you need to install that into your browser as well.
[16:44] <toomuchpower> I am pretty sure I would be able to write a driver, if I had proper specifications.
 ok
[16:45] <Sidewinder1> heogen>Sorry it took so long; I'm a SLOWWWWW typer. :-(
[16:45] <shamm> dataviruset: unfortunately, windows 2003 is running 8 processors at where I work. :(
[16:45] <twright> toomuchpower, well in karmic it is different as spining down the hd is an option in the power manager
[16:45] <ManDay> Wow, that's more or less awesome. After trying to figure out how to set up a proxy on Windows for almost 30 minutes I just tried "bridging connections" and hell that works like a charm. i dont even have to configure ubuntu to use a proxserver sort of - its just like my ubuntu machine was DIRECTLY connected to the internet!
[16:45] <toomuchpower> People should put up  website saying which laptops have complete specifications.
[16:46] <toomuchpower> a*
 don't worry about it
[16:46] <IdleOne> !hardware
[16:46] <toomuchpower> Sort of like the OpenBSD people do, but I don't think there is a truly open laptop.
[16:46] <vix2> how do i check for the filesystems suported my the mount command on my system
[16:47] <toomuchpower> IdleOne: There is a difference between hardware that sort of works, and hardware for which you know you have written the best driver possible, within some tiny constant factor.
[16:47] <moonshine> how to automount my windows partition?
[16:47] <dataviruset> shamm: :(
[16:48] <n8tuser> ManDay -> what was the network layout like? why used the bridging?
[16:48] <twright> toomuchpower, if you want a distro with more powersaving baked in you could try wattOS: http://www.planetwatt.com/
[16:49] <ManDay> n8tuser, the laptop i want to (re)install ubuntu on has no connection to the internet because wireless doesnt work. my windows machine has wireless working and two network interfaces (the wireless one and eth) -> so i managed to give my laptop internet access
[16:49] <ManDay> i think its just awesome
[16:49] <toomuchpower> twright: if I can continue to use my existing partitions, I would want that. I doubt that's possible, however.
[16:49] <n8tuser> vix2 -> cat /proc/filesystems
[16:50] <vix2> thx n8tuser
[16:50] <twright> toomuchpower, well the ubuntu installer does allow you to use a partition without formatting (keeping /home)
[16:50] <toomuchpower> It seems that the HDA intel stuff has _no_ powermanagement and simply always runs. No wonder...
[16:50] <n8tuser> ManDay -> you used null cable between your laptop eth and your windows host?
[16:51] <spree> ikonia, are you still around? The caps lock light does not change
[16:51] <grawity> n8tuser: ethernet doesn't have null cables, does it
[16:51] <toomuchpower> twright: oh, nice. I assume you can also keep multiple?
[16:51] <n8tuser> grawity -> nope, but i meant the cable to connect two ethernet ports without using a hub
[16:52] <twright> toomuchpower,  I think it is flexible but of course it is worth backing up before doing anything
[16:52] <Sidewinder1> spree>Did you try "memtest" on boot-up to check your RAM?
[16:52] <moonshine> how to configure my splash screen to be at resolution of 800x600? cause my laptop can handle that resolution the best
[16:52] <moonshine> i mean
[16:52] <moonshine> which is the vga=???
[16:52] <spree> Problem - My PC locks up, and I can't recover, I have to manually reboot. The only thing I can think of that is in common in all the lockups is there is sound playing, but the lockups happen intermittently. I have not found anything revealing in logs, but I may be looking in the wrong place. The lockup has an infinitely repeating half-second clip of sound. At the crash, caps lock and num lock are non-responsive. Jaunty, AMD64
[16:52] <grawity> n8tuser: Ah, those are crossover cables.  Also, most network cards have "auto-crossover", which allows using a normal cable. (Gigabit cards have it in specs, as an optional feature, but it's supported by some 100Mbit too)
[16:52] <spree> Sidewinder1, I have not tried that yet, no
[16:52] <n8tuser> moonshine -> we cant remember each parameter, you may have to google to convert those numbers
[16:53] <grawity> moonshine: Try vga=? for a list.
[16:53] <spree> Sidewinder1, where precisely do i type memtest
[16:53] <toomuchpower> I also have a different problem. Sometimes the screen just turns black when I am even using the machine (typing keys, etc).
[16:53] <akshay> help me to run c++ code on ubuntu
[16:53] <ManDay> n8tuser, yes
[16:53] <Sidewinder1> spree>'Cause what you're describing sounds like a hardware problem.
[16:53] <toomuchpower> Any idea what might cause that?
[16:53] <n8tuser> grawity -> nope, i still have older nics that dont do the auto crossover of tx/rx
[16:53] <toomuchpower> akshay: man g++
[16:53] <ManDay> n8tuser, screw it, i lost the chat log
[16:53] <grawity> moonshine: Actually, vga=814 for 800x600x32bit
[16:53] <ManDay> what did you suggest again=
[16:53] <grawity> n8tuser: I did say "most".
[16:53] <grawity> Not "all"
[16:53] <twright> toomuchpower, weird
[16:54] <kyuss> I am using ubuntu 9.04 and firefox 3.5.4. I have really slow and choppy scrolling when using firefox. The scrolling works fine with everything else. what could be the problem
[16:54] <System> hello ppl
[16:54] <akshay> help me to run c++ code on ubuntu
[16:54] <lookyaso> anyone dealt with ports timing out while scanning remotely to server?
[16:54] <grawity> akshay: Use gcc to compile the code.
[16:54] <Sidewinder1> spree>I think, when you reboot that it is a menu choice prior to selecting the kernel to which you wish to boot.
[16:54] <twright> toomuchpower, that did happen to me at times on karmic but now seems to have gone away
[16:54] <spree> Sidewinder1, okay i will give it a shot to eliminate the possibility.
[16:54] <akshay> grawity- i used it it is giving errors
[16:54] <spree> brb
[16:54] <ManDay> n8tuser, you suggested something earlier, regarding how to select only a minimal choice of packages out of a metapackage
[16:54] <Guest81237> any one can help me with making a usb install drive ?
[16:54] <ManDay> can you repeat?
[16:54] <Sidewinder1> spree> Stand by
[16:54] <n8tuser> ManDay -> you didnt need to assign an ip address to the laptop you're installing to? or you stilll have to when bridging?  kind of curious even though bridge is supposed to be linklayer 2
[16:55] <twright> Guest81237, yes
[16:55] <grawity> akshay: Then give us the errors.
[16:55] <ManDay> n8tuser, i have to assign an ipadress as usual, just as it was directly connected to the router (which my windows machine is connected to)
[16:55] <twright> Guest81237, for what and using which os
[16:55] <n8tuser> ManDay -> use debconf-get-selections  to list whats installed, and pick and choose from it what you wanted for the newer install
[16:55] <Guest81237> I tried the thing they said in download page but that program always gives error 8. wouldnt write to my usb. i'm using xp
[16:55] <Sidewinder1> spree>I believe that once you start the test, it runs in a continous loop; so after a while, if you get no errors then you're probably OK.
[16:56] <Xcerca> hey, i'm having trouble with banshee and last.fm ,  what is another music player that can connect to last.fm,  can amarok do that ?
[16:56] <ManDay> n8tuser, where do i choose "debconf-get-selections"?
[16:56] <twright> Guest81237, could you post a link to the page in question
[16:56] <n8tuser> ManDay -> use sudo perhaps to issue that command,  its a command line
[16:56] <Guest81237> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[16:56] <ManDay> ok
[16:56] <Guest81237> i already have the img file
[16:57] <miguelonnnn> hi lpease i need a way to reverse in binary fashion all the bytes of a file
[16:57] <twright> Guest81237, ok - unetbootin only works with iso files
[16:57] <miguelonnnn> i mean, first bytes to the end
[16:57] <Guest81237> oo so i should get iso file ?
[16:57] <toomuchpower> And there is another problem: hibernation is not working. Pause is working, however. Hibernation currently works exactly the same as rebooting, but the BIOS seems to be "resuming".
[16:58] <n8tuser> ManDay -> there is also tasksel  but i dont recall how to use it properly
[16:58] <Guest81237> i tried this as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles doesnt work
[16:59] <m0r0n> Hey, how do I make a title page in Open Office, word, I want the title centered, then the name of the prof etc. on the bottom right, but when I click align to right, everything on the page goes to the right
[16:59] <twright> Guest81237, no, img should be fine. I will give you a link to burn it in a sec
[16:59] <akshay> http://pastebin.com/m4e3afd2b
[16:59] <akshay> check this out
[16:59] <akshay> grawity-check thi out
[16:59] <akshay> http://pastebin.com/m4e3afd2b
[16:59] <FloodBot1> akshay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <anachronik> is there any other free VM software for ubuntu in order to emulate xp other than vbox?
[16:59] <Guest81237> thank you twright
[17:00] <Guest81237> I'm new to linux :)
[17:00] <live> Hello, im using the compiz cube/rotating cube and i was wondering if it was possible to have the taskbar open windows thing only show whats on the desktop your on
[17:00] <Guest81237> Ubuntu looks are very tempting xD
[17:00] <live> so the open windows only showing the ones on the desktop your on
[17:00] <moonshine> how to make ubuntu automount my sda5 partition?
[17:00] <live> i suck at explaining
[17:00] <a555556666> @moonshine: you have to edit /etc/fstab
[17:00] <live> a taskbar/panel for each desktop
[17:01] <moonshine> a555556666, i edited it, but i dont know what to write...
[17:01] <n8tuser> anachronik -> try vmware, they have the limited version, two user perhaps...
[17:01] <a555556666> hold on
[17:01] <akshay> http://paste.ubuntu.com/269856/
[17:01] <akshay> check d link
[17:02] <a555556666> make a directory where you want to mount it
[17:02] <twright> Guest81237, the ubuntu help article should be the best way to do it
[17:02] <Vegancheesesteak> hi all. i'm trying setup virtualservers on subdomains for users on my server so they can just ftp into there home directories. how can i give apache permissions to read the files in the user directories?
[17:02] <twright> Guest81237, what error did you get doing it that way?
[17:02] <Guest81237> I tried it but the thing wont write. it gives error 8
[17:02] <clintonp> ikonia:you stated "there must be a parameter that says "listen on this interface" or "listen on these ip addresses" please help where I can get this help
[17:02] <ikonia> clintonp: try in #django
[17:03] <ikonia> clintonp: or the documentation
[17:03] <a555556666> @moonshine: a typical mount looks like this
[17:03] <a555556666> /dev/sda8  /mnt/data  ext3  defaults 0 0
[17:04] <moonshine> that partition, sda5 is an ntfs partition, what to write?
[17:04] <twright> Guest81237, in that case could you try formatting your usb drive to fat first (presuming you have no other files on it)
[17:04] <ManDay> When using the minimal-installer to part the disks, it asks me for "reserved blocks for SU", never heard of reserved blocks - whats this? does it make any sense to set it to soemthing != 0?
[17:05] <twright> Guest81237, you can do that in windows explorer by right clicking on the drive
[17:05] <prince_jammys> !ntfs | moonshine
[17:05] <a555556666> /dev/sda5 /mnt/data ntfs defaults 0 0
[17:05] <Guest81237> i'll try it twright
[17:05] <EmeraldCat> Hi, does the amd64 iso include 64-bit versions of all application packages, or is only the core (kernel, drivers, etc.) 64-bit and the application packages 32-bit?
[17:06] <ProfOak> Is there a way to group programs together in my gnome panel?
[17:06] <anachronik> n8tuser, the page is very confuse
[17:06] <twright> MayDay, that is space saved for root (a security thing)
[17:06] <anachronik> could you pleae point me to their dl link?
[17:06] <ldlework> When attempting to install the sun-java6-plugin packages I get:
[17:06] <ldlework> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/s/sun-java6/sun-java6-jre_6-14-0ubuntu1.9.04_all.deb
[17:06] <ldlework>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[17:06] <ldlework> Are the ubuntu repos down?
[17:06] <n8tuser> anachronik -> i dont advertise for them, you probably have to google for how to install vmware on ubuntu
[17:06] <shrini> Need help on installing ubuntu 9.04. I have 4 partitions. but installing program does not show any partition
[17:07] <anachronik> tjhanks anyway
[17:07] <a555556666> @shrini: is this at the manual partitioning page?
[17:07] <chouffai> Hello.
[17:07] <tester123> hi
[17:07] <shrini> a555556666: yes
[17:07] <tester123> hi
[17:07] <a555556666> that's odd
[17:07] <ldlework> Are the repositories down?
[17:08] <shrini> a555556666: sudo fdisk -l shows all the partitions
[17:08] <chouffai> Could someone tell me how can I extend my partition size, Please ? Where I can fniod Gparted
[17:08] <toomuchpower> I also have a sort of special problem. I have a machine which is on only at unknown times. I do want to send commands to this machine, when this machine might be offline. I don't care if the machine only sees the command a day later, but the important thing is that it gets the command and executes this. Is there some framework which already does this? I thought of using email to send the commands.
[17:08] <toomuchpower> I would like to have something which is cryptograhically secure/.
[17:09] <fccf> chouffai: you can't resize a partition while it is mounted ... reboot with live disk to resize .. gparted is included on the live disk ...
[17:09] <a555556666> @Idlework: the repos seem fine
[17:09] <a555556666> @shrini: are you installing from the live CD?
[17:09] <tester123> hi
[17:09] <shrini> a555556666: yes
[17:10] <ProfOak> Is there a way to group same applications in gnome panel, in order to conserve space?
[17:10] <tester123> does any1 want there system to look like xP?
[17:10] <tester123> exactly
[17:10] <a555556666> @shrini: sorry man, i've never run into that problem before
[17:10] <ldlework> a555556666, the multiverse repo either is down or the java packages are missing
[17:11] <ldlework> Nevermind now they seem to be up
[17:11] <ldlework> w/e
[17:11] <shrini> a555556666: its okey.
[17:11] <live> ok i want a task bar for each workspace on jaunty. so instead of displaying all the open windows for all worpspaces i want them to only show the open windows on the current workspace
[17:11] <shrini> anyone help me to install ubuntu
[17:11] <live> only
[17:11] <EmeraldCat> Does the amd64 iso include 64-bit versions of apps, or only 64-bit versions of the kernel and drivers?
[17:12] <deniz-777> i will come again....
[17:12] <shrini> is there any way to install ubuntu in commandline using livecd?
[17:12] <a555556666> @shrini: http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=445
[17:13] <IdleOne> !alternate | shrini
[17:13] <tester123> 2shrini: no
[17:13] <a555556666> @ubottu: the alternate is a network install?
[17:13] <tstebut> please help me I want to have icons for my mounted medias
[17:13] <IdleOne> a555556666: no
[17:13] <tstebut> I mean, on my desktop
[17:13] <Sidewinder1> !bot
[17:13] <IdleOne> a555556666: the minimal is a base install and then grabs the rest from internet
[17:14] <fccf> EmeraldCat: some apps have been compiled in 64 bit .. but certainly not all ... the rest either have to run in a 'compatibility mode' or some won't run
[17:14] <live> i got the ubuntu main live cd from cannonical and it worked like a charm with my graphics card.
[17:14] <a555556666> ah
[17:14] <live> the downloaded iso didnt have the features it did
[17:14] <fccf> live: what version of the Disk did you use?
[17:14] <Vegancheesesteak> hi all, i'm trying to get apache to read from user directories in 8.04 server.  How should i grant permissions?
[17:15] <live> 9.04 i think (jaunty)
[17:15] <EmeraldCat> fccf, is it possible to select for install 64-bit versions of apps in Synaptic?
[17:15] <tester123> when is 9.10 karmic comming out
[17:15] <frogzoo> !9.10
[17:16] <fccf> Vegancheesesteak: there is a file in /etc/apache2/mods-available called user.dir which you have to link to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled -- to start with
[17:16] <tstebut> I modified mounting point through GUI on my device icon
[17:16] <live> can you update to say karmic without using the disk
[17:16] <tstebut> it failed
[17:16] <tstebut> and now I have to mount it manually (shall command) and I cant get my icons back
[17:16] <Vegancheesesteak> fccf: can i use it with subdomains?  will it behave like a virtual server?
[17:16] <live> like through terminal
[17:17] <tstebut> How can I recover it, and having control on the mounting point also ?
[17:18] <elnjinjo> hi how can i dpkg all installed packages i know for this: sudo dpkg -l EXAMPLE*   that is for individual packages is there command for all installed packages?
[17:18] <fccf> Vegancheesesteak:  will work like www.mydomain.com/~myuser  ... if you want myuser.mydomain.com .. you will have to setup virtual servers for that
[17:18] <MK-BB> fccf, you mean VirtualHost?
[17:18] <fccf> MK-BB: yes
[17:19] <Sidewinder1> live>You should be able to update with "Update Manager", with no disk.
[17:19] <EmeraldCat> Can 32-bit drivers work with a 64-bit kernel?
[17:19] <Vegancheesesteak> fccf: yes, thats is what im attempting...i setup a virtual host but then apache wont read the user directory path
[17:20] <twright> EmeraldCat, they should be able to be compiled
[17:20] <EmeraldCat> Ok.
[17:20] <elnjinjo> how to dpkg all installed packages?
[17:20] <grawity> dpkg -l |grep ^i
[17:20] <fcs> !de
[17:20] <Sidewinder1> live>Systems ---->Administration---->Update Manager  (After it's released, of cource :-)
[17:21] <elnjinjo> grawity: TNX
[17:21] <pranav> What does --purge mean during remove and autoremove /
[17:21] <fccf> Vegancheesesteak: so you will still need to do the user.dir linking to enable the userdir's
[17:21] <live> yupp
[17:21] <shrini> a555556666: thanks for the link
[17:22] <live> lol sorry for the noob questions i been off of ubuntu for a looong time
[17:22] <shrini> a555556666: i worked with fdisk. but still the problem is there
[17:22] <a555556666> @shrini: did it solve your issue?
[17:22] <Vegancheesesteak> fccf: how can i do this?
[17:22] <korogiannos> I've discovered gnome-look.org and would like a "for dummies" explanation of what gtk 1.x/2.x, metacity, GDM, screenlets... all mean.  Could someone direct me to any sites that explain (not in depth, but for beginners) what is what?
[17:22] <aphthartos> hello, i want to start a webserver using ubuntu, i will have there multiple domains hosted. anyone can give an url of a nice tutorial
[17:22] <aphthartos> ?
[17:22] <Sidewinder1> live>Welcome Back!
[17:22] <CharelB> 	
[17:22] <CharelB> Could it be that Microsoft hardware is no longer supported since a new Ubuntu?
[17:23] <Sidewinder1> Microsoft hardware???
[17:23] <gintulis> how to enable ctrl+alt+backspace in kubuntu?
[17:23] <CharelB> yeah
[17:23] <pranav> What does --purge mean during remove and autoremove /
[17:23] <Sidewinder1> Specify, please.
[17:23] <CharelB> a Microsoft Headset ( Microsoft Live Chat LX3000 ) It's plugged in via USB Sidewinder1
[17:24] <elnjinjo> --purge removes app stored configuration files
[17:24] <korogiannos> gintulis: I think it's been removed, try right alt + print screen+ K
[17:24] <ManDay> n8tuser, I've to bother you again
[17:24] <CharelB> 	
[17:24] <CharelB> Well, the wonder, however, i have a headset from Microsoft (Microsoft Live chat LX3000) which is connected via USB, I can use the controller of this, but I do not hear a sound.
[17:24] <FloodBot1> CharelB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:24] <Sidewinder1> CharelB>I'd be willing to bet MS didn't manufacture it; they just charged $$$ to put their name on it. :-)
[17:24] <EmeraldCat> It would probably be better to use a distro like Gentoo for a 64-bit machine, since all of the apps can be (re)compiled...
[17:25] <CharelB> so ... no solution for me?
[17:25] <Sidewinder1> CharelB>Semantics, though, really. :D
[17:26] <gintulis> korogiannos: thanks
[17:26] <live> i have a logitech headset
[17:26] <CharelB> :(
[17:26] <ManDay> I've reached the "Select and install software" part in the guided installation process and chose "manual package selection" which got me into aptitude, what will I have to do here in order to install a working gnome-desktop with out the additional stuff such as "dictionary" and such which is included in "ubuntu-desktop" ?
[17:26] <korogiannos> gintulis: no probs
[17:27] <Chrisfu> hey guys, just need a quick bit of help
[17:27] <fccf> Vegancheesesteak: good info here http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_userdir.html  here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/setting-up-user-directorys-with-apache-268941/?highlight=UserDir  and this will tell you the rest http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-notes/linux-notes/apache2-public_html-virtual-directories.file
[17:27] <iceroot> !ask | Chrisfu
[17:28] <iceroot> ManDay: gnome
[17:28] <n8tuser> ManDay -> okay, i dont know if i have the answer though. go ahead ask away
[17:28] <iceroot> ManDay: sudo apt-get install gnome
[17:29] <pranav> 1
[17:29] <Hentai> how can I open a terminal with super user\root access
[17:29] <Chrisfu> ok, sorry about that!  basically i've installed ubuntu 9.04 via PXE and it's worked fine.  the problem is, i can't seem to work out how to get it to install the server kernel instead of generic by default.  does anyone know how?
[17:29] <a555556666> @Hentai: sudo -i
[17:29] <iceroot> Hentai: just use the normal sudo
[17:29] <Sidewinder1> !sudo | Hentai>
[17:30] <atrofast> I have a question about Wubi, does it run like a real linux inside as in can I compile Linux code etc?
[17:30] <grawity> atrofast: Yes. The only difference between Wubi and a "real" install is how it installs itself.
[17:30] <bmschrad> Hentai: if you run 'sudo su' then you will remain root as long as the terminal is open.
[17:30] <Hentai> a555556666, thanks, exactly what I needed, I know about sudo guys but didn't know what to run to get that
[17:30] <atrofast> So it'll just run as an application in Windows then? How does the performance compare to for example a VMWare image?
[17:30] <Hentai> bmschrad, what about sudo -i? or will it log out afterwhile?
[17:31] <grawity> atrofast: The _only_ differences are that Wubi doesn't use a partition, instead it uses a big file. Also, it doesn't replace the Windows bootloader.
[17:31] <trap> I follwed a site for installing .tat.bz2 .Uncompressed it and found 2 files 1 is .c and other is Makefile, what do I do guyz ?
[17:31] <a555556666> sudo su and sudo -i are similar
[17:31] <Vegancheesesteak> fccf: thank you. the second link had the answer with the permissions. it works now :)
[17:31] <Hentai> ok a555556666
[17:31] <grawity> atrofast: There is no virtualization involved or anything.
[17:31] <atrofast> Oh I see, thanks grawity
[17:31] <bmschrad> Hentai: not sure I just do 'sudo su' and it keeps me logged as root for the whole time.
[17:31] <iceroot> a555556666: if i am correct, sudo su is not setting the environment correct
[17:31] <o_O> j0w
[17:32] <mgv1> hi, how can i terminate a program that make the computer freeze?
[17:32] <ManDay> iceroot, even when i just want to install "gnome" there is a load of stuff included which i really dont want!! why would they put "gimp" into the gnome-package for gods sake?!?!!?
[17:32] <Sidewinder1> bmschrad>Not sure that was the best advice, considering the nature of his/her question. :-)
[17:32] <trap> grawity: use the Makefile to install Esetroot.c ?
[17:32] <o_O> I've got a problem with my cooler. everytime i boot my laptop after i've hibernated it, the cooler doesn't start to run
[17:32] <iceroot> ManDay: i dont knw what is in the paket gnome
[17:32] <grawity> atrofast: The only thing is that it uses a kind of "virtual disk" - so 1) it may be a little slower on disk I/O, 2) it doesn't support hibernate (suspend-to-disk).
[17:32] <o_O> i need to shut down the computer completely in order to make the cooler run again
[17:33] <ManDay> iceroot, too much
[17:33] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:33] <ManDay> i just want the damn gnome desktop running, but whatever i try it wants to install a lot of other things. im gettign frustrated
[17:33] <grawity> atrofast: But doing a "real" installation is really easy now, the Ubuntu installer can resize the Windows partition in a few minutes. So you might want to use that.
[17:33] <grawity> ManDay: Try gnome-desktop?
[17:34] <o_O> maybe you should stick to windows if you dont know how to install gnome
[17:34] <mgv1> hi, how can i terminate a program that make the computer freeze?
[17:34] <iceroot> o_O: not a good comment
[17:34] <atrofast> grawity: I'm asking on  behalf of a friend, he's not keen on dual booting not sure why
[17:34] <grawity> o_O: Well, it isn't ManDay's fault that Ubuntu put a lot of crap in the 'gnome' package.
[17:34] <ManDay> thanks grawity
[17:34] <cwillu> ManDay, back up a step, what are your needs exactly?
[17:34] <o_O> i dunno what hes trying to do
[17:35] <o_O> just heard that he cant install gnome
[17:35] <sebsebseb> ManDay: I just joined, but I think there's a kind of Gnome minimal that can be installed rather than the whole of ubuntu-desktop
[17:35] <a555556666> @mgv1: from a terminal, you can kill it
[17:35] <cwillu> ManDay, it's important to note that gnome consists of a bunch of different packages that don't all start with 'gnome-'
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[17:35] <grawity> o_O: Install GNOME desktop without all the additional stuff (GIMP, Evolution, etc)
[17:35] <darkness23> Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone has tried to install the latest version of ubuntu on the new HP tx2-1275?
[17:35] <ManDay> cwillu, a basic ubuntu installation, with a gnome desktop but without all the little programs such as "dictionary", "character map", "gimp" etc etc etc
[17:35] <ManDay> thats what im trying to get
[17:35] <cwillu> ManDay, those little programs _are_ the gnome desktop
[17:35] <grawity> ManDay: gnome-desktop and probably gnome-session. Maybe gnome-base, I don't remember.
[17:36] <sebsebseb> !info gnome-core
[17:36] <grawity> atrofast: It'd be interesting to know why does he dislike dualboot :\
[17:36] <Vegancheesesteak> how can i tell what groups a user is in?
[17:36] <grawity> atrofast: Because technically, Wubi _is_ simplified dualboot.
[17:37] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: id -Gn username
[17:37] <fccf> toomuchpower: I think you could make fdm do what you want see !info fdm
[17:37] <fccf> !info fdm
[17:37] <iceroot> Vegancheesesteak: groups username
[17:37] <cwillu> atrofast, wubi is a full linux install, except that the filesystem is just a file inside the windows filesystem
[17:37] <Vegancheesesteak> grawity: thanks
[17:38] <atrofast> grawity: I tried to pull it out of him and he didn't want to "take away from his windows experience" yeah okay... anyway he's helping me with a linux project so he HAS to have something to compile on... He's been using vmware but thinks it's too slow
[17:38] <cwillu> atrofast, I personally strongly recommend against it for the reasons listed on bug #428195
[17:38] <sebsebseb> atrofast: and  it can go wrong and that,  for testing it will probably be ok, but for realiability and for a long term  install,  better to use real partitions
[17:38] <mgv1> hi, how can i terminate a program that make the computer freeze?
[17:38] <cwillu> atrofast, that said, wubi is a dual boot, pure and simple
[17:38] <grawity> atrofast: Tell him that for most purposes, Wubi and real dualboot give exactly the same experience.
[17:38] <iceroot> mgv1: reading the logs
[17:38] <sebsebseb> atrofast: plus a  Wubi install can be converted into one
[17:39] <WdnSpoon> I plug in my x-box controller; the xpad module loads, but it controls my mouse cursor and isn't identified as a joystick. How do I get it to recognize it as a joystick instead?
[17:39] <atrofast> Alright, thanks a lot everyone!
 i didn't saw it for some reason
[17:39] <ManDay> grawity, i go with ... GDM, gnome-session, thunderbird, open-office.org-writer, firefox-3.0, network-manager, wireless-tools AND ALL THEIR DEPS now, do you think this will yield a working desktop?
[17:39] <sebsebseb> atrofast: and if Windows messes up enough so will Wubi
[17:39] <cwillu> ManDay, yes
[17:40] <ManDay> cwillu, ok, ill give it a shot then
[17:40] <cwillu> well, include ubuntu-minimal in there to make sure the core pieces are working
[17:40] <IdleOne> ManDay: firefox-3.5 instead
[17:40] <grawity> ManDay: Why shouldn't it?
 how can i open the terminal if the computer froze and how can i kiill it?
[17:40] <iceroot> mgv1: some more details? which ubuntu, what you do when freezing? heat is ok? not overclocking?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> WdnSpoon: try jscalibrator
[17:40] <fccf> WdnSpoon: have you seen this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller
[17:40] <WdnSpoon> it runs and it sees my /dev/js0 as an xpad, but it doesn't register any input. Moving the axis simply moves my mouse cursor
[17:41] <iceroot> mgv1: depending on what "a freeze is" ctrl + alt + f1 opens up a console
 firefox was opening millions of windows maybe because of mouse problem (portable computer pad)
[17:41] <cwillu> ManDay, I'm still not understanding what you're trying to achieve though (i.e., the reasons behind it), and it could be there's a more direct way of doing things
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> WdnSpoon: sudo apt-get install joystick
[17:41] <fbu90> hello
[17:41] <iceroot> !details | mgv1
[17:41] <WdnSpoon> ActionParsnip: already installed
[17:42] <fbu90> i have ubuntu 9.04, and hide network manager, and i can't connect to my wirlles network? please help me
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> WdnSpoon: there should be an app in the config app someplace where you can config it
[17:43] <ManDay> cwillu, as i said im trying to get a minimal ubuntu install with a working deskto
[17:43] <ManDay> p
[17:43] <forceflow> any disadvantages of wicd?
[17:43] <WdnSpoon> ActionParsnip: which app is that? ie what should I run to find that
[17:43] <forceflow> will it hold back my upgrading to another ubuntu version or something?
[17:43] <cwillu> ManDay, for what purpose?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> WdnSpoon: alt+f2   type jscalibrator
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> WdnSpoon: if it isnt installed run: sudo apt-get install jscalibrator
[17:44] <Hydrid> No sound in firefox from flash in ubuntu ! THIS is very sad for ubuntu.for this simple thing to have to search for a long time to find solution while its every where else very easy to just install and play the f......ing thing
[17:45] <ManDay> because i like it slim, cwillu
[17:45] <cwillu> ManDay, in a real sense, any 'minimal' install of ubuntu's desktop isn't ubuntu's desktop.  And the absolute minimal desktop can be quite a bit more minimal than the packages you listed.
[17:45] <WdnSpoon> ActionParsnip: right I've checked that before; it sees my js0 as the xbox controller, but it doesn't register any input. Moving my axis just moves my mouse cursor
[17:45] <forceflow> ManDay: you can install ubuntu-netbook-remix
[17:45] <IdleOne> Hydrid: is there a question in there or just a rant?
[17:45] <ManDay> cwillu, simply put i just dont want any packages that i dont explicitly want
[17:45] <forceflow> contais less bloat (ekiga, ...) than original ubuntu
[17:45] <cwillu> Additionally, hardly any of those utilities consume any resources beyond a couple kb of diskspace
[17:45] <sebsebseb> Hydrid: not Ubuntu's fault,   blame Adobe after all their Flash plugin is closed source
[17:45] <Hydrid> a question and a rant
[17:45] <ManDay> forceflow, unbuntu-netbook-remix is just as bloated as the vanilla ubuntu
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> WdnSpoon: have you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xbox360Controller
[17:46] <sebsebseb> Hydrid: they also  don't make it properly for Linux distros,  by what I have read before in here etc
[17:46] <cwillu> ManDay, I'd suggest that starting with ubuntu isn't really the right choice
Sound in Flash works fine for me...
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> forceflow: you could install u-lite then install LXDE onto for ultra lightness
[17:46] <WdnSpoon> ActionParsnip: trying that; the codes not compiling but I'm trying to fudge it a little
[17:46] <forceflow> anybody got an answer to my question? Will using wicd have any negative effects on upgrading ubuntu?
[17:46] <forceflow> since it's not standard gnome/ubuntu
[17:46] <sebsebseb> Hydrid: What you put was more of a compliant, than a question.
[17:47] <IdleOne> forceflow: it shouldn't
[17:47] <forceflow> IdleOne: okay, thanks
[17:47] <ManDay> cwillu, i use ubuntu because i like their repositories
[17:47] <forceflow> like it a lot more than network manager
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> forceflow: if you jump to the next release the repo will be disabled during the upgrade process
[17:47] <ManDay> installing stuff is a charm in ubuntu once you got it setup
[17:47] <cwillu> ManDay, I'd suggest debian, or at least starting with ubuntu-minimal and building up the desktop you want from the command line
[17:47] <Hydrid> i dont know how it sound but its something that i wanted to say and thats it. Now returning to my prob
[17:48] <cwillu> ManDay, that said, the entire concept of a 'bloat' is ill-defined, a simple emotional reaction at best
[17:48] <forceflow> ActionParsnip: will it rever to network-manager then?
[17:48] <forceflow> or not install any network manager at all?
[17:48] <fbu90> ok, wicd helped me :) thank's
[17:48] <ManDay> cwillu, you are right.
[17:48] <Sidewinder1> Obviously just a rant :-(
[17:48] <cwillu> ManDay, 'gnome-calculator' consumes no resources, and as such, can't bloat anything by definition :p
[17:48] <ManDay> but as for the command line - thats why i choose ubuntu because im tired of all the command line details
[17:48] <burntresistor> i have to run ldconfig as part of a install of fuppes and it doesnt do anything  what packet do i need installed for this to work
[17:48] <sebsebseb> Hydrid: maybe you have some kind of sound issue in Ubuntu or it's just Flash,  you can also try  Swfdec and Gnash as alternatives to Adobe Flash,  but out of the three  Adobe's is still the best, for obvious reasons
[17:48] <ManDay> cwillu, you are absolutely right, its just an emotional something
[17:48] <WdnSpoon> ActionParsnip: I think this may be the answer: the driver is fine, it's X that's grabbing my input: http://www.gs1.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6267529&posted=1#post6267529
[17:48] <ManDay> i want the desktop clean, thats my preference
[17:49] <cwillu> ManDay, would it make sense to simply remove the menu entries and the like for item you don't want to see?
[17:49] <cwillu> that way you gain the benefit of the ubuntu meta-packages re: updates and such, but in a way that will always leave your desktop as clean as you like it?
[17:49] <ManDay> lol, you know i will not be satsified if i know that the actual binaries are still sitting somewhere in my Fs taking up space :P
[17:49] <cwillu> (i.e., leave your session clean)
[17:49] <burntresistor> anybody ? what do i need for ldconfig to work
[17:49] <cwillu> ManDay, stop making things hard on yourself :p
[17:50] <forceflow> I always find comfort in the fact that re-installing ubuntu takes ... half an hour, max.
[17:50] <ManDay> cwillu, i'd need to consult a psychologist to get over that
[17:50] <fccf> forceflow: yeah, but getting a server back takes a little longer
[17:50] <cwillu> ManDay, you realize that the installers for all sorts of stuff end up living in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[17:50] <ManDay> i just cant :D
[17:51] <grawity> cwillu: s/installers/packages/
[17:51] <ManDay> well /var can be purged anytime
[17:51] <cwillu> and all sorts of stuff you'll never look at in your life resides in /usr/share/
[17:51] <forceflow> if I need a tool just one time, I remove it afterwards
[17:51] <ManDay> oh believe me I DO look at it :P
[17:51] <cwillu> grawity, a package is an installer, they're synonyms
[17:51] <forceflow> I just don't know enough about linux yet to understand what every installer does, though :)
[17:51] <fccf> ManDay: have you considered taking a system like Puppy (100mb) and enabling APT
[17:52] <ManDay> fccf, havent heard of that
[17:52] <cwillu> ManDay, and I presume you'll degunk your initramfs, as well as your dbus rules?
[17:52] <grawity> cwillu: The installer is dpkg; a package only has the information. (Well, a post-install script often.)
[17:52] <f8m> how do I disable application when a "Debugger" is detected.
[17:52] <cwillu> ManDay, to say nothing of the bloat in each /etc/init.d/ script
[17:52] <grawity> f8m: Why do you need to do that?
[17:52] <Raydiation> hi, ive seen screenshots and ideas for appstore, and i really like it, especially the design is shiny
[17:52] <ManDay> cwillu, you dont want to take it there, you dont wanna know what i do in my spare time :P
[17:52] <Raydiation> are you going to sell proprietary programs too through that plattform?
[17:52] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Raydiation
[17:52] <fccf> ManDay: Puppy Linux (google it) is a minimal linux desktop distrobution, and can run some ubuntu apps by enabling apt
[17:53] <cwillu> grawity, (a) this has nothing to do with what I was talking about, (b) that simply not true, "installers" in the windows world make use of something exactly analogous to dpkg, and yet they're still called installers
[17:53] <Guest49045> how do i install shockwave?
[17:53] <cwillu> ManDay, in which case, I still wonder why the hell you're using a binary package based os :p
[17:53] <ManDay> sounds delicious fcct, but i am someone who rather throws a distro away then solving deps manually, so i think this is nothing for someone like me
[17:53] <grawity> cwillu: Windows installers contain the executable code themselves, .debs don't.
[17:53] <f8m> when I install program on wine, it gave me the "Debugger detected"
[17:53] <fccf> !flash | Guest49045
[17:54] <cwillu> grawity, they do, in fact, and windows installers don't necessarily, in fact
[17:54] <sebsebseb> fccf: maybe Guest49045   means  Shockwave  not Flash
[17:54] <ManDay> cwillu, im coming from gentoo, actually i had two choices: slackware or ubuntu... i took ubuntu because i love well maintained repos :D
[17:54] <WdnSpoon> ActionParsnip: Okay this was the answer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Joystick_lshal_outputs_done  thanks for your help
[17:54] <grkblood13> how do i kill netsta connections?
[17:54] <grkblood13> netstat*
[17:54] <IdleOne> ManDay: perhaps you should volunteer to keep the repos clean :)
[17:54] <cwillu> ManDay, in which case, I feel absolutely no pity for your frustration before, and in fact I really feel the need to extract my time from you somehow :p
[17:55] <fccf> ManDay: Puppy can use the ubuntu repos, I have heard good things... 100mb DL ... what do you have to loose
[17:55] <korogiannos> Is there a system-wide equalizer? (not sure what pulse jack alsa oss are but I believe I'm using alsa apps with pulse)
[17:55] <ManDay> fcct, worth a try, but not today
[17:55]  * ManDay gives cwillu his time back
[17:55] <sebsebseb> Guest49045: The commonly  sadly  used Flash,  or the not so used anymore Shockwave?
[17:55] <cwillu> korogiannos, not installed by default.  There are guides around, although I haven't had any success with them (relies on a pulseaudio module to load audio plugins, which I haven't been able to make work)
[17:56] <miguelonnnn> hey guys how can i invert the bytes in a file so last bytes go first and so? thxx
[17:56] <cwillu> korogiannos, but it's possible in theory, and people have reported success
[17:56] <cwillu> miguelonnnn, homework assignment?
[17:56] <moonshine> why cant i enable desktop effects?
[17:56] <zaccour> is there something like gnome-do for kde?
[17:57] <sebsebseb> moonshine: Which graphics card do you have?
[17:57] <moonshine> VIA S3 Unichrome
[17:57] <sebsebseb> moonshine: hmm sounds like an odd one to me
[17:57] <korogiannos> cwillu: Thanks.  I've not dug deep (if at all) knowing that others have succeeded is motivation enough
[17:57] <f8m> How do i solve the DEBUGGER DETECTED problem from wine problem
[17:57] <sebsebseb> moonshine: when I say which I meant which company
[17:58] <cwillu> miguelonnnn, python, and then open('output').write(open('filename').read()[::-1])
[17:58] <moonshine> but i cant install it, i tried all the packages,from via, openchrome...nothing works...the company is S3
[17:58] <fccf> grkblood13: kill the process
[17:58] <sebsebseb> zaccour: You can also ask in #kubuntu
[17:58] <grkblood13> netstat wont show the process
[17:58] <grkblood13> and i cant find the process
[17:58] <grkblood13> its a php script
[17:58] <cwillu> moonshine, the driver available for that card doesn't support compiz or 3d acceleration sufficient for the task
[17:58] <sebsebseb> moonshine:   Have you got a graphics card driver installed for it?
[17:58] <fccf> f8m: please take the question to #winehq
[17:58] <moonshine> i cant install it, i tried all the packages,from via, openchrome...nothing works...
[17:59] <cwillu> moonshine, complaints to the manufacturer (s3) about their horrid linux/xorg support would be appreciated, as they're the only ones in a position to fix it
[17:59] <fccf> grkblood: probably only runs for a second when needed, if the script is causing a problem ... remove it
[17:59] <sebsebseb> moonshine: what cwillu said
[17:59] <cwillu> moonshine, again, there are no drivers available for that card which are capable of running compiz :(
[17:59] <grkblood13> i have killed the script
[17:59] <Scribebox> i need help setting up a procmailrc file, to setup all the files ive FETCHMAILED from gmail POP into different subfolders mail/sent/drafts, etc for dovecot to serv to my local machines?
[17:59] <moonshine> s3
[17:59] <grkblood13> but the connection stays
[17:59] <Scribebox> anyone wanna help?
[17:59] <grkblood13> its a irc bot
[17:59] <Barre> I'm looking for a "dingbat" to use with conky, like a CPU icon, HDD, FAN, etc. Any ideas where I could find such a dingbat?
[17:59] <moonshine> i am so sorry to hear that...
[17:59] <Roasted> Has anybody installed Ubuntu on a PowerPC mac? Particularly Jaunty?
[18:00] <cwillu> moonshine, best bet is to make a complaint to s3, and go out and buy a cheap nvidia card :p
[18:00] <grkblood13> im running powerpc on my ps3
[18:00] <Roasted> do you have flash support?
[18:00] <fccf> grkblood13: consider restarting your IRC client and all sub-processes
[18:00] <moonshine> well, cwillu , where to put it? i have laptop...
[18:00] <grkblood13> dont know
[18:00] <grkblood13> i dont get on it enough to know
[18:00] <grkblood13> i dont think so
[18:00] <grkblood13> i think i remember trying to get flash but failed
[18:00] <fccf> !enter |grkblood13
[18:00] <grkblood13> fccf, its a browser script
[18:01] <vavar> hey the last firefox update is so unusable. it crashes, hangs, closes random windows and all in all it's a failure... do you remember firefox 2 and it's awesome stability. thats past.. huh?
[18:01] <cwillu> moonshine, that's unfortunate.  If it means anything, the rest of the system should work fine, you just won't have 3d acceleration or fancy desktop effects
[18:01] <Roasted> I just read gnash is a good alternative, but more importantly I cant figure out my wireless with Debian on this iBook G4. Im downloading Ubuntu for PPC now but I heard Ubuntu is the same as Debian in terms of getting wireless to work for PPC chips
[18:01] <pradeep> i have ubuntu on my laptop and windows xp on desktop. we are connected to the same network. how do i access my windows comp from my laptop
[18:01] <grkblood13> and ive killed my browser serveral time
[18:01] <pradeep> should i use telnet if yes how
[18:01] <sebsebseb> Roasted: #debian for Debian help
[18:02] <fccf> grkblood13: sounds like a malicous bot script ... reboot reboot and never ./bin again
[18:02] <moonshine> well, if it is only that, then i am satisfied :D the vesa driver works fine for me :) i can watch movies, although they flicker a little, but nothing bad :)
[18:02] <Roasted> sebsebseb - I know, but if you take notice to what I siad, Ubuntu and Debian are the same in terms of troubleshooting wireless, and as we speak I am downloading Ubuntu to install on the iBook. But, thanks anyway.
[18:02] <sebsebseb> !debian |  Roasted
[18:02] <miguelonnnn> cwillu, sry i don't know python :(
[18:02] <grkblood13> fccf, its not a malicious bot
[18:02] <Roasted> is sebsebseb a bot?
[18:02] <grkblood13> ill pm you the script
[18:02] <miguelonnnn> i know c
[18:02] <sebsebseb> !wireless |   Roasted
[18:02] <grkblood13> maybe you can see soemthig
[18:02] <cwillu> miguelonnnn, as it happens, you don't have to, you just have to blindly type in what I told you to type :p
[18:02] <Roasted> ignoring sebsebseb
[18:02] <sebsebseb> Roasted: no, but ubottu is a female one also
[18:02] <fccf> pradeep: telnet has been disabled in ubuntu because it is completly insecure ... use SSH
[18:02] <Roasted> can anybody else help?
[18:02] <fccf> !ssh | pradeep
[18:02] <apparle> I get this when I run sudo apt-get updatehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/
[18:03] <sebsebseb> !gender |  Roasted
[18:03] <Scribebox> winscp + putty = managing ubuntu server a dream!
[18:03] <cwillu> !rdp
[18:04] <LuceBree> Everytime I rmmod pcspkr the system beep comes back after I reboot.  Anyone know of a permanent solution
[18:04] <Gintulis> emerald work with kubuntu?
[18:04] <grawity> Scribebox: sshfs+gnome-terminal+ssh*
[18:04] <cwillu> Linux-Idiot, ugh, don't change nicks right after you ask a question :p
[18:04] <korogiannos> !"being a chatbot"
[18:05] <Linux-Idiot> haha
[18:05] <Linux-Idiot> sorry
[18:05] <korogiannos> got me : p
[18:05] <cwillu> Linux-Idiot, add the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[18:05] <minche> hi, i'm usign ubuntu 9.04 and there is no sound. at first it at least recognized the sound card, but now it only says "null device",and when i do aplay -l  it say "no soundcards found..." please, if anyone could help me, i've been struglling with this for 3 days now =/
[18:06] <apparle>  I get this when I run sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/ Plz help
[18:06] <fccf> grkblood13: perhaps restarting apache might force that process to a close ... obviously it is running under apache
[18:06] <pradeep> once installed putty own windows wat next
[18:06] <pradeep> i know ssh
[18:06] <pradeep> in ubuntu
[18:06] <Roasted> With Debian and Ubuntu being from similar forks, do they share the same repos?
[18:06] <root> eareafda
[18:06] <root> abracatabra
[18:07] <grawity> Roasted: No, Ubuntu repositories are separate.
[18:07] <erve> minche what is your hard platform
[18:07] <korogiannos> minche: do you have an audio controller when you   $lspci
[18:07] <Guest11752> ņĢä~
[18:07] <Guest11752> ļ»Ėņ╣śĻ▓āļäż
[18:07] <cwillu> apparle, it's not a fatal error, it just means some repository you've added doesn't exist (misspelled, died, whatever)
[18:07] <fccf> !enter | pardeep
[18:07] <Guest11752> ļÅäļĀł ļ»Ė
[18:07] <IdleOne> Guest11443: please stop
[18:07] <grawity> Roasted: It's possible to use Debian .debs though.
[18:07] <fccf> !ko | Guest11752
[18:07] <Guest11752> ņŚ¼ļ│┤ņäĖņÜö
[18:07] <IdleOne> Guest11752:  please stop
[18:08] <a1fa> hey. i have a problem with sound in gnome.. brand new install.. there is sound in the splash screen, but no sound once you enter gnome
[18:08] <Guest11752> ņŚ¼ļ│┤ņŗŁņŗ£ņśż
[18:08] <Guest11752> ņŚ¼ļ│┤ņŗŁņŗ£ņ¢┤
[18:08] <FloodBot1> Guest11752: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <minche> korogiannos: yes
[18:08] <cwillu> !ops
[18:08] <cwillu> ugh, hit enter too early
[18:08] <miguelonnnn> can i make FILE* f=fopen(file,r+), *q; while(fscanf(f, %char, &char[0])!=EOF i++; rewind(f);and then for(jŌü╝0;j<i;j++) {fscanf(f, %c, &char[j]);} and then for(j=0;j<i;j++) {fprintf("newfile=fopen("q", w+)} ?
[18:08] <miguelonnnn> cwillu, ?
[18:08] <cwillu> miguelonnnn, use the script I told you already, it's actually readable
[18:08] <MarcoPau> hello, I've been getting error on loading mysql database server at boot. do you have any hint? can't find more on syslog unfortunately
[18:08] <Guest11752> hm
[18:09] <twright> a1fa, can you get sound again if you press alt+f2 then type killall pulseaudio
[18:09] <miguelonnnn> yeah but i'ts binary code, i'm not sure if python will read it as binary. In C theres r+ for reading binary format
[18:09] <grawity> Python has r+ too.
[18:09] <Guest11752> abracadabar
[18:09] <grawity> rb*
[18:09] <a1fa> twright: lemme try
[18:09] <cwillu> miguelonnnn, python:   open('output').write(open('filename').read()[::-1])
[18:09] <Guest11752> abracadabra
[18:09] <a1fa> i have access to /dev/dsp
[18:09] <a1fa> and it plays sound just fine
[18:09] <Sunny007> hello
[18:09] <fccf> !enter | a1fa
[18:10] <Guest11752> hello
[18:10] <sebsebseb> Sunny007: hello
[18:10] <Guest11752> sunny00
[18:10] <mneptok> Guest11752: please behave
[18:10] <IdleOne> Guest11752: how can we help you?
[18:10] <Guest11752> ?
[18:10] <Michalxo> Guest11752, ask question or mute ;) :D
[18:10] <Guest11752> ??
[18:10] <fccf> Guest11752: please /join #ubuntu-ko for ubuntu support in Korean
[18:11] <a1fa> !repeat  | fccf
[18:11] <Sunny007> Any one can help me with installing ubuntu on my netbook? I cannot make a usb boot drive for installation. The imagewriter is always giving me error8 . I tried formatting the pen disk and tried rebooting my comp
[18:11] <IdleOne> Guest nicks should be muted by default
[18:12] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: I disagree
[18:12] <fccf> !attitude | a1fa
[18:12] <a1fa> twright: no sound after kill.. the speakers did flicker when i tried to play youtube
[18:12] <mneptok> a1fa: fccf is trying to help you get better output and help. don't slap him/her for it.
[18:13] <fccf> mneptok: TY
[18:13] <pradeep> after installing putty on windows , how do i connect to it from my laptop if its ip is 192.168.x.x
[18:13] <IdleOne> pradeep: Places>Connect to server
[18:13] <apparle> cwillu: I get the same error....whichver mirror I select... and its giving error for main and universe.....which I want to use
[18:13] <spree> Sidewinder1, the memtest revealed nothing
[18:14] <grawity> pradeep: PuTTY is a _client_ - you cannot connect to it. You can only connect from it.
[18:14] <Vegancheesesteak> one more question.....  why are files uploaded via ftp of different permissions than ones created locally with the user account?
[18:14] <twright> a1fa, could you try opening the terminal (from applications->accessories) and typing alsamixer ans that may show the problem
[18:14] <a1fa> i am not using pulseaudio in gstreamer-properties
[18:14] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: Different how? 600 vs 644?
[18:14] <pradeep> then how do i connect to my windows comp??
[18:14] <pradeep> grawity:then how do i connect to my windows comp??
[18:14] <grawity> pradeep: rdesktop
[18:15] <pradeep> grawity: wat is rdesktop
[18:15] <grawity> pradeep: To copy files, click Places -> Connect to server
[18:15] <Vegancheesesteak> grawity: yes
[18:15] <grawity> pradeep: To use programs, install rdesktop on the Ubuntu PC.
[18:15] <a1fa> alsamixer is not showing any errors
[18:15] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: This depends on the umask you use, and the umask ftpd is using.
[18:15] <pradeep> grawity:rdesktop on ubuntu and on windows??
[18:15] <spree> Problem - My PC locks up, and I can't recover, I have to manually reboot. The only thing I can think of that is in common in all the lockups is there is sound playing, but the lockups happen intermittently. I have not found anything revealing in logs, but I may be looking in the wrong place. The lockup has an infinitely repeating half-second clip of sound. At the crash, caps lock and num lock are non-responsive. memtest reported OK. Jaun
[18:15] <spree> ty, AMD64
[18:15] <owen1> I can't view slideshawre ( http://www.slideshare.net/kattekrab/joy-of-inkscape-at-stixcamp ).  i have adobe-flashplugin 10.0.32.18-1, flashplugin-installer 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1 and flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1. any ideas?
[18:16] <Vegancheesesteak> grawity: oh ok see it now in vsftp.conf
[18:16] <a1fa> i can pipe stuff to /dev/dsp and it plays just fine
[18:16] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: Usually, the default umask is 022, so when creating a file, the permissions are calculated like this: 0666 & ~022 = 0644
[18:16] <pradeep> grawity:i already have installed rdesktop on ubuntu,wat next
[18:16] <vavar> dbus crashed. gnome and all settings are messed up now. why doesn't it recover when i restart dbus and try to start gnome-settings-daemon and so on manually? it searches for a dbus-socket in tmp wich does not exist; not even after a dbus reset.
[18:16] <Sunny007> Any one can help me with installing ubuntu on my netbook? I cannot make a usb boot drive for installation. The imagewriter is always giving me error8 . I tried formatting the pen disk and tried rebooting my comp
[18:16] <twright> a1fa, in that case could you find a pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu.com/) and post the results of the command lspci -vv
[18:16] <Sidewinder1> spree>At least you know that it's not a RAM issue.
[18:16] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: Similarly, umask 077 results in 0600 for files and 0700 for directories.
[18:17] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: All the numbers are in octal, by the way.
[18:17] <a1fa> one sec
[18:17] <spree> Sidewinder1, what should i do next?
[18:17] <owen1> i have issues viewing some flash sites.  is it because i use macbookpro (64bit) with ubuntu 32bit?
[18:17] <cwillu> vavar, that filename comes from an environment variable, I'm not sure if there's any easy way to update the processes involved with the new dbus-socket path.   iirc
[18:17]  * spree regrets running 64 bit ubuntu, nothing but problems
[18:17] <a1fa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/269893/
[18:18] <twright> owen1, that should not cause problems. What sorts of problems do you have?
[18:18] <pradeep> i already have installed rdesktop on ubuntu,wat next. How to connect to my windows deskop please
[18:18] <vavar> owen1: no, flash on ubuntu doesn't work well. also you might have the wrong flash version. the nonfree version works better.
[18:18] <spree> well, flash doesn't work well in 64 bit particularly
[18:18] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: The default umask for normal logins is set in /etc/login.defs (but it's often overriden by /etc/profile or even ~/.profile)
[18:19] <sebsebseb> Flash also sucks really
[18:19] <Vegancheesesteak> grawity: thank you. so 0750 is 027?
[18:19] <pradeep> i already have installed rdesktop on ubuntu,wat next. How to connect to my windows deskop please help
[18:19] <owen1> twright: i can see youtube but not others such as: http://www.slideshare.net/kattekrab/joy-of-inkscape-at-stixcamp  or http://www.infoq.com/presentations/scaling-up-by-scaling-down
[18:19] <vavar> spree: 32bit also not. and it takes the soundcard exclusively to itself.
[18:19] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: Yep.
[18:19] <spree> sebsebseb, usefulness of the web is extremely limited without it
[18:19] <twright> a1fa, have you seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=435682 and is it any help?
[18:19] <Vegancheesesteak> grawity: thanks
[18:19] <spree> vavar, yes i hate that
[18:20] <owen1> vavar: how do i get the non-free?
[18:20] <a1fa> havent checked that
[18:20] <spree> Problem - My PC locks up, and I can't recover, I have to manually reboot. The only thing I can think of that is in common in all the lockups is there is sound playing, but the lockups happen intermittently. I have not found anything revealing in logs, but I may be looking in the wrong place. The lockup has an infinitely repeating half-second clip of sound. At the crash, caps lock and num lock are non-responsive. memtested OK. Jaunty, AMD
[18:20] <spree> 64
[18:20] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: You could open Python, for example, and use oct( 0777 & ~027 ) to calculate it.
[18:20] <a1fa> one sec
[18:20] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: And remember that files will never be executable by default.
[18:20] <a1fa> i only have one audio controler
[18:20] <twright> owen1, could you then post a screenshot of what happens when it fails
[18:20] <a1fa> or do i
[18:20] <pradeep> i already have installed rdesktop on ubuntu,wat next. How to connect to my windows deskop please help
[18:21] <a1fa> :(
[18:21] <sebsebseb> spree: If you are thinking video,  HTML 5 has <audio> amd <video>  and Firefox 3.5 has built in support for  that :)   as for Flash games  those aren't useful, but can be fun.   Then  other types of Flash such as  Flash advertising or  website intros,  well so what about those.
[18:21] <Vegancheesesteak> grawity: is that a problem with apache?
[18:21] <owen1> twright: i see black frame instead of the video
[18:21] <Sidewinder1> spree>Are you doing anything in Wine when this occurs? Just a "shot in the dark".
[18:21] <DD_> did you share your desktop on windows?
[18:21] <brutus> how do I compile and run objective C ?
[18:21] <vavar> owen1: flashplugin-nonfree
[18:21] <twright> a1fa, in that case have you had any problems in previous versions of ubuntu/other distros?
[18:22] <owen1> vavar: i have it
[18:22] <pradeep> DD_: no
[18:22] <spree> Sidewinder1, Yes, I am, however it doesn't exclusively happen when running wine. it also happens when running rhythmbox and xine. But i can much easier make it happen in wine.
[18:22] <vavar> owen1: then write some complaints to adobe :)
[18:22] <sebsebseb> spree: Flash is not needed to make the web good, it really isn't,  in fact Flash tends to do the opposite,  just most computer users don't know this,   to  much Flash  and espesailly when it's being used for video, is rather bad indeed
[18:22] <grawity> Vegancheesesteak: No, it shouldn't be. As long as Apache is permitted to read a file, it'll work fine.
[18:22] <livingdaylight> Greetings Brotherhood of Peace!
[18:22] <twright> owen1, when did your problems start then and does it happen in other browsers
[18:23] <Griz64> hey gang. updated Moms laptop and lost the atheros...    http://dpaste.com/92700/    contains most of the 'general info' that is usually asked for.  The machine is an HP G60 laptop run 8.04 LTS.
[18:23] <spree> sebastien_, i have no wish to get into a waxing philosophy discussion with you about the joys of less features.
[18:23] <spree> sebsebseb, , i have no wish to get into a waxing philosophy discussion with you about the joys of less features.
[18:23] <sebsebseb> Spec: heh
[18:23] <owen1> twright: since day 1, i think. let me try in midori.
[18:23] <sebsebseb> spree:  heh
[18:23] <sebsebseb> Spec: wrong one hmm
[18:23] <apparle>  I get this when I run sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/ Plz help plzzzzz
[18:24] <spree> sebsebseb, i need pandora and i need youtube and i need google street view to work at all times
[18:24] <livingdaylight> question: i have a laptop and desktop both running 9.04 I had smbclient (i think) installed and both computers could share each others folders. However, now, despite teh fact the can both see each others' folders they do not open, even after giving corrrect password. Help?
[18:24] <iceroot> apparle: this is not a ubuntu-repo, its a kernel.org repo
[18:24] <owen1> Twigathy: midori can view the flash (when it's not crashing).
[18:25] <sebsebseb> spree: well whatever  http://www.w3.org web standards for the win,  HTML,  CSS,  SVG which can replace certain Flash,  and so on.   Plus this  is off topic.   Also what I am trying to say here is that usaully Flash is bad,  but sometimes there isn't really a proper alternative.
[18:25] <grawity> iceroot: I think it's an Ubuntu mirror hosted at kernel.org
[18:25] <Twigathy> I should change my nick to something less tab-completable...
The only reason I ask is that I remember some program (not system) lockups in wnibloze that mimic your "endless loop of 2 secs of sound." description. Unfortunately I can't remember the particulars; it was long ago...:-(
[18:25] <iceroot> grawity: hm, yes you are right
[18:25] <spree> sebsebseb, Why do you continue to tell me things i already know about? i'm well aware of everything you are continuing with
[18:25] <dreamline5> who can I ask why ubuntu 9.04 install doesn't see my internal WD sata drive
[18:25] <apparle> iceroot: I tried archive.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com, in.archive.ubuntu.com.... I still get the same error
[18:26] <iceroot> Twigathy: why? t -> tab = Twigathy
[18:26] <owen1> twright: midori crashed on me, but before it did, i saw the flash.
[18:26] <sebsebseb> spree: ok  end of discusson
[18:26] <Twigathy> iceroot: people keep hilighting me when they mean to tab-complete somebody elses nick ;)
[18:26] <iceroot> Twigathy: ah ok
[18:26] <fccf> brutus: objective C is a programming language, you don't run it, ... you use it's compiler (gobjc-4.3) to compile obj C source into binary ... perhaps you should do some reading
[18:27] <sebsebseb> Twigathy: yeah it happens,  you could put a number in front of your name for exampl
[18:27] <money> heh
[18:27] <Twigathy> hehe
[18:27] <twright> owen1, in that case can you try starting up firefox with --profile-manager (press alt+fn2 and type firefox --profile-manager), create a new profile and see if it works then
[18:27] <apparle> iceroot: can you help
[18:27] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, are you using ubuntu on both machines?
[18:27] <lordmetroid> I am trying to get yaws running, I changed the /etc/yaws/yaws.conf to listen to 127.0.0.1 but I am getting However I get:
[18:27] <lordmetroid>  Yaws: Failed to listen 127.0.0.1:8443  : {error,eaddrinuse}
[18:27] <owen1> twright: ok.
[18:27] <lordmetroid> How do I know what is occupiying my ports?
[18:27] <iceroot> apparle: you can reach other sites? like ubuntu.com? using a proxy?
[18:27] <Cluber> I'm trying to get my screen resolution to 1920x1080 with my new monitor but am having issues. Here is what i've tried http://pastebin.com/d3747ac88 Any help would be appreciated.
[18:27] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: that's what i said
[18:27] <sebsebseb> twright: oh looks like that  isn't possible actsualley
[18:28] <live> what is this
[18:28] <live> http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/brokenbylaw/Screenshot-1.png
[18:28] <twright> sebsebseb, huh?
[18:28] <Griz64> can anyone assist me with this wifi issue?? purdy pleez?
[18:28] <live> can linux get viruses
[18:28] <apparle> iceroot: as you can see from the error itself..... I can reach to other lists for multiverse etc... And I am behind a proxy.
[18:28] <fccf> Cluber: have you tried to restart X?
[18:29] <sebsebseb> twright: putting a number   as the first thing in your IRC nick
[18:29] <Cluber> fccf: erm, no?
[18:29] <iceroot> apparle: hm
[18:29] <Cluber> How do i achieve this feat
[18:29] <live> is myspace hacked or is it me
[18:29] <fccf> Cluber: what version of ubuntu?
[18:29] <sebsebseb> !virus |  live
[18:30] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, i highly suggest  you use SSH instead of samba, youre basically using a knife instead of a gun, i have an SSH server on my desktop and with with dyndns.org I can update my files from anywhere on the internet
[18:30] <Cluber> fccf: 8.10
[18:30] <causasui> I have a process that I need to kill that I cant kill. $ sudo kill -kill <PID> didn't work. sudo killall didnt work. any other ideas?
[18:30] <owen1> twright: i run it from terminal: firefox-3.5 --profile-manager. and it still not showing the flash content. i see this in terminal: unhandled event 9
[18:30] <Shujah> @ live, yeah but chances are pretty slim though if you use wine and share an ntfs partition (dual boot) between win/ nix it might effect the windows os, or you might send effected emails via evolution/ thunderbird
[18:31] <mezquitale>  !ask | Griz64
[18:31] <Griz64> causasui, try  http://speculation.org/garrick/kill-9.html
[18:31] <Griz64> hey gang. updated Moms laptop and lost the atheros...    http://dpaste.com/92700/    contains most of the 'general info' that is usually asked for.  The machine is an HP G60 laptop run 8.04 LTS.
[18:31] <fccf> Cluber: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart the x server ... remember to save everything before doing it ... it will also log you out of IRC
[18:31] <live> hmmm i just installed wine today
[18:31] <live> and virtualbox
[18:31] <Cluber> fccf: im vncing into server :)
[18:31] <sebsebseb> fccf Cluber  no that longer works
[18:32] <live> but havent useed them at all
[18:32] <twright> owen1, If you are running firefox-3.5 does the same happen in 3 then
[18:32] <minche> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264671 there
[18:32] <sebsebseb> fccf Cluber by default
[18:32] <minche> that's my problem
[18:32] <live> i tried installing xp but it failed
[18:32] <Griz64> mezquitale, have. didn't get a responce. even included a pastebin of the most commonly asked questions. "Been There, Done That, Got the T-Shirt."
[18:32] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: some recommend ssh and some samba... others say they do differnt things. fact is it was working and now it isn't. Even if ssh is better in your opinion, it would be nice to have it work with samba too, regardless
[18:32] <Gnea> !dontzap
[18:32] <fccf> sebsebseb: it does on 8.10 ... not on Jaunty
[18:32] <owen1> twright: i'll install it and try. thank
[18:32] <sebsebseb> fccf: ah right ok on 8.10
[18:32] <Cluber> sebsebseb: yeah it didnt work
[18:32] <sebsebseb> Cluber: should work on 8.10
[18:33] <live> lol i hate how ctrl-alt-back is disabled by default
[18:33] <sebsebseb> Cueball: or maybe not actsaulley
[18:33] <twright> owen1, you should have had it before installing 3.5 anyway right?
[18:33] <causasui> Griz64: Doesnt seem to be what I'm looking for. this is a way to kill processes softly. I already tried the heavy options and they didnt work
[18:33] <owen1> Twigathy: i don't think i ever used 3.0
[18:33] <sebsebseb> live: xorg decission
[18:33] <mezquitale> Griz64, sorry I just got here so it behooves you to ask every now and then, someone might complain that you asked the same question, if they do you should politely ask why you didnt get your answer
[18:33] <live> yupp
[18:34] <sebsebseb> !dontzap |  Cluber
[18:34] <Cluber> i see
[18:34] <live> and im to lazy to edit my xorg.conf file lol i just restart
[18:34] <fccf> Cluber: I'm not sure how doing that will effect your remote session ... perhaps try starting another X server in another virtual terminal and log into that
[18:34] <Cluber> dontzap
[18:34] <causasui> I have a process that I need to kill that I cant kill. $ sudo kill -kill <PID> didn't work. sudo killall didnt work. any other ideas?
[18:34] <Guest47470> ok i need to paste something so how to i use pastben or whatever
[18:34] <Xcerca> can i get anybodys opnion on good msn clients that work well with webcams ?
[18:34] <fccf> !paste | Guest47470
[18:34] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, i would only use samba if I was FORCED to, ie redmond, otherwise ssh is your answeer
[18:34] <sebsebseb> Xcerca: AMSN can do web cam
[18:34] <Griz64> mezquitale, no worries, mate. :-)  been doing this for a L O N G time. first kernel was 0.98  i just don't get why this puked, so horribly.
[18:34] <Shujah> causasui try via system monitor - though if sudo kill is not working i doubt it will
[18:34] <live> this freaks me out:
[18:34] <owen1> twright: i installed 3.0. but when running firefox-3.0 it still runs 3.5 !
[18:35] <twright> owen1, in that case which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[18:35] <owen1> 9.04
[18:35] <live> http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/brokenbylaw/Screenshot-1.png
[18:35] <Cluber> E: Couldn't find package dontzap
[18:35] <fccf> causasui: perhaps sudo pkill appname
[18:35] <sebsebseb> owen1: did you mean  the other way round?
[18:35] <owen1> twright: 9.04
[18:35] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  owen1
[18:35] <twright> owen1, that is very strange
[18:35] <fccf> Cluber: don't zap isn't a package and is irrevelent in your sitiuation
[18:36] <live> just uninstall wine
[18:36] <Griz64> !skpe
[18:36] <owen1> twright:i can uninstall 3.5
[18:36] <Griz64> (shrug)
[18:36] <Cluber> fccf: why is it?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> !skype |  Griz64
[18:36] <gag0q> hum i need someone who can help me
[18:36] <apparle> iceroot: ?
[18:36] <Cluber> how do i restart X lol
[18:36] <sebsebseb> !ask |  gag0q
[18:36] <Griz64> sebsebseb, TY! (fam dingers, anyhow!)
[18:36] <Guest47470> ok im trying to install a wifi driver rt2870sta and i have gotten to a good point then it has an error can anybody help me and tell me whats wrong
[18:36] <gag0q> i am trying to update my linux how to do that ?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> Griz64: what?
[18:36] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: ok, so how do i set my machines up with ssh?
[18:37] <eraggo> Cluber: crtl+alt+backspace?
[18:37] <Cluber> omg lol
[18:37] <sebsebseb> gag0q: update as in get updates for it, or upgrade as in  the version of Ubuntu?
[18:37] <Griz64> sebsebseb, Thank You!
[18:37] <gag0q> hum
[18:37] <twright> owen1, did you install it manually from the repos or from the normal site?
[18:37] <sebsebseb> gag0q: np
[18:37] <Cluber> Control+alt+backspace doesn't work
[18:37] <grawity> livingdaylight: In Ubuntu, just install openssh-server package.
[18:37] <fccf> Cluber: if you restart X remotely and it doesn't come back .. you'll have to log in via ssh to fix things ..
[18:37] <eraggo> o.O
[18:37] <Guest47470> http://paste.ubuntu.com/269901/
[18:37] <Cluber> fccf: i have a man on the other side
[18:37] <Cluber> to restart
[18:37] <Sunny007> yay installed ubuntu
[18:37] <gag0q>  
[18:37] <Sunny007> <3
[18:37] <CoolKuri> gag0q erm, sudo apt-get update ?
[18:37] <sebsebseb> Sunny007: good :)
[18:37] <causasui> Shujah: System monitor did the trick. that's annoying since sometimes I cant get into the system monitor. What does the system monitor do that I wasnt doing from the command line?
[18:37] <Sunny007> ty twright for helping me out :)
[18:38] <gag0q> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:38] <gag0q>  how to update this linux
[18:38] <sebsebseb> !love > Sunny007
[18:38] <fccf> Cluber: ok, then ... Log off from remote ... have remote guy do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[18:38] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, the first thing you want to do is install and configure openssh in your desktop, then configure ssh client in your laptop, after that use unison in your laptop to update your files in your laptop and desktop
[18:38] <Gnea> !update | gag0q
[18:38] <livingdaylight> grawity: sudo apt-get install openssh-server?
[18:38] <owen1> twright: i think it's from deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[18:38] <grawity> livingdaylight: Yep
[18:38] <Sunny007> hehe
[18:38] <Cluber> fccf: okay he did it :)
[18:38] <lars1> !help > lars1
[18:38] <livingdaylight> grawity: and then?
[18:38] <sebsebseb> Sunny007: :)
[18:38] <Guest47470> for backtrack ubuntu 8.1 ill i have to type is apt-get update
[18:38] <Shujah> causasui maybe you got the pid wrong?
[18:39] <Cluber> fccf: and it cut me off :P
[18:39] <grawity> livingdaylight: Then, just use ssh to connect to your computer.
[18:39] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: ok, tell me how?
[18:39] <Guest47470> for backtrack ubuntu 8.1 ill i have to type is apt-get dist-update
[18:39] <Griz64> hey gang. updated Moms laptop and lost the atheros...    http://dpaste.com/92700/    contains most of the 'general info' that is usually asked for.  The machine is an HP G60 laptop run 8.04 LTS.
[18:39] <Guest47470> extra
[18:39] <twright> owen1, did you follow the tutorial on the forums to install it then?
[18:39] <livingdaylight> grawity: "just" Nice!
[18:39] <fccf> Cluber: yeah, it does that ... give it a min and log back in
[18:39] <grawity> livingdaylight: sshd will be started automatically after installation. And there isn't much to configure, anyway.
[18:39] <owen1> twright: i don't remember. i guess i added it to my sources and used aptitude
[18:40] <Cluber> fccf: now when i do xrandr its removed the thing i just added
[18:40] <twright> Sunny007 you are welcome
[18:40] <livingdaylight> grawity: yes, but specifically, what do i do now so that i can access Desktop files from my laptop and vice versa?
[18:40] <fccf> Cluber: and still @ 640x480?
[18:40] <Cluber> fccf: well 800x600
[18:40] <livingdaylight> grawity: what do i click and what do i actually do, you know what i mean? Just do it, doesn't help me here :)
[18:41] <Cluber> has 2 entries in there, 640x460 and 800x600
[18:41] <fccf> Cluber: would you please pastebin the output of lspci
[18:41] <grawity> livingdaylight: There are several ways. The OpenSSH server includes sftp support, so if both computers are running Ubuntu, just use Places --> Connect to server, then choose 'SSH' in the list.
[18:41] <gag0q> who can give me link
[18:41] <gag0q> to download
[18:41] <livingdaylight> grawity: right, that's the kind of nitty gritty details i need - thx
[18:41] <gag0q> Update
[18:41] <sebsebseb> gag0q: download what?
[18:41] <Cluber> fccf: http://pastebin.com/df5ebde4
[18:41] <apparle>  I get this when I run sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/269887/ Plz help plzzzzz
[18:42] <grawity> Can I give him a link to lmgtfy now? -_-
[18:42] <mezquitale> !pastebin
[18:42] <Myrtti> grawity: bi,
[18:42] <Gnea> gag0q: it doesn't work that way. what's the output of this command:  lsb_release -r
[18:42] <Myrtti> grawity: no.
[18:42] <grawity> Myrtti: Aww.
[18:42] <gag0q> Update for My lInux ubuntu
[18:42] <twright> owen1, if you added it to the sources list that sounds like a very weird way to install it. I would recommend uninstalling that (uninstall and remove from list) and it may help. Then if it works there are some more robust ways to install.
[18:42] <fccf> Cluber: and pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:42] <gag0q> I got every old
[18:42] <gag0q> Ubuntu
[18:42] <gag0q> :S
[18:42] <gag0q> :(((@@::@:]
[18:42] <FloodBot1> gag0q: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <livingdaylight> grawity: can you help me with how i fill out the Connect to Server dialog that comes after i go to Places --> Connect to Server?
[18:42] <sebsebseb> gag0q: ok which version are you on?
[18:42] <Guest47470> can some one help me for a sec i have an error installing a driver
[18:42] <Gnea> gag0q: please, just say what it is
[18:42] <Guest47470> i ahve the text to show you
[18:43] <grawity> livingdaylight: If you're doing that on desktop, enter laptop's IP address to 'Server'.
[18:43] <livingdaylight> grawity: like what do i enter for teh "Server:" window?
[18:43] <livingdaylight> grawity: right
[18:43] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, I have my ssh server configured to use an SSH key so I dont have to type a password: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269904/
[18:43] <owen1> twright: ok. i'll uninstall ff and remove from sources. what is a better way to install it?
[18:43] <gag0q> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:43] <fccf> apparle: you should know better than to expect binarys to be available for a kernel
[18:43] <Cluber> fccf: http://pastebin.com/d2fea2049
[18:44] <improbablenameto> hello... ubuntu 9.04 amd64 question: whenever I enter startx my screen goes blank... I tried doing dpkg-reconfigure and it says xserver-org is not installed, but I try and apt-get install xserver-org and it says it's already at the newest version... does anyone know what's going on?
[18:44] <grawity> livingdaylight: Setting up SSH keys is a good idea (allows for passwordless logins)... but mezquitale's tutorial is for the paranoid ones, I'd say.
[18:44] <fccf> Cluber: I'm certian I know what is going on ... have you installed the drivers for your ATI video card?
[18:44] <apparle> fccf: I tried archive.ubuntu.com, us.archive.ubuntu.com, in.archive.ubuntu.com.... I still get the same error
[18:44] <grawity> mezquitale: Out of curiosity, why -t dsa?
[18:44] <livingdaylight> grawity: i haven't got there yet
[18:45] <Cluber> fccf: erm...
[18:45] <Cluber> lol
[18:45] <mezquitale> gravity im super paranoid
[18:45] <improbablenameto> fccf, how does one install drivers for the ATI card?  (from the command line)?
[18:45] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: need to first set up a basic 'setup' before i get fancy
[18:45] <Cluber> fccf: Im sure the disks were for windows
[18:45] <livingdaylight> What do i put for Port: ?
[18:45] <Cluber> and erm
[18:45] <fccf> apparle: that repo doesn't exist there are no binaries for kernel packages
[18:45] <sebsebseb> Cluber: Windows graphic card drivers, won't work on a Linux distro
[18:45] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, that is the beauty with ssh, if you follow my guide fancy IS basic
[18:46] <livingdaylight> grawity: what do i enter for "Port:" and "Forder:" ?
[18:46] <Gnea> gag0q: I think you don't understand. that is the kernel version. we need to know what version of *Ubuntu* you have.  lsb_release -r   will say
[18:46] <Cluber> sebsebseb: Yes but i thought linux automatically found the drivers?
[18:46] <fccf> Cluber: goto System> Admin > hardware drivers
[18:46] <Cluber> fccf: Nothing in the list
[18:46] <Cluber> i tried that
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Cluber: normalley people have to install a graphics card driver them selves in a Linux distro, if they want full graphics card support
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Cluber: for example OpenGL support for 3D graphics
[18:47] <Sunny007> I'm not gonna lie... ubuntu feels a lot better than windows 7. Though I've been using windows for 14 years now and never used linux
[18:47] <Cluber> 'No proprietary drivers are in use on this system'
[18:47] <mezquitale> Sunny007, welcome to the real world
[18:47] <Myrtti> Sunny007: great! welcome to socialize with us at #ubuntu-offtopic!
[18:47] <Sunny007> I'm happy i installed ubuntu
[18:47] <twright> Sunny007, good to hear and welcome to the revolution :-)
[18:47] <fccf> Cluber: give me a min .. that's a legacy thing ... I get you where you need to be
[18:47] <Cluber> fccf: Okay thanks
[18:48] <grawity> livingdaylight: Port 22, folder - /home/yourlogin might be better.
[18:48] <DryGrain> mezquitale, the matrix
[18:48] <grawity> mezquitale: But you still didn't tell why exactly you use DSA.
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:48] <Pirate_Hunter> just used nmap to sccan a port whihc is meant to be open with ufw but instead it is close, how do I fix this nothing is running on it at the moment?
[18:48] <sebsebseb> Sunny007: it also boots up  a lot faster than Windows with the correct file system, but you don't need to think to much about that, at the moment
[18:49] <Purpley> I need help with xorg
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Purpley: sup
[18:49] <mezquitale> gravity i created that guide using snippets from various sources, my sources told me to use dsa
[18:49] <mezquitale> gravity you can google it if you want
[18:49] <hunghuukieu> hehe
[18:49] <Purpley> I get this error message when trying to tun VVIDIA X Server settings display config
[18:49] <Purpley> Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:
[18:49] <Purpley> Failed to parse mode '1024x768 @1024x768 +1680+0'
[18:49] <Purpley> on screen 0 (on GPU-0)
[18:49] <Purpley> from metamode:
[18:49] <Purpley> 'TV-0: 1024x768 @1024x768 +1680+0'
[18:49] <FloodBot1> Purpley: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:49] <tstebut> Hello
[18:49] <grawity> mezquitale: The default is RSA, and even GnuPG has switched to RSA.
[18:49] <twright> Sunny007, sebsebseb, yes, and with karmic it is only getting faster
[18:49] <vikk> i need some help
[18:49] <livingdaylight> grawity: that worked - thx... how is one supposed to know it is 22 by the way?
[18:49] <grawity> mezquitale: Oh, and learn to spell my nick...
[18:50] <tstebut> How can I change the default mounting point for a specific usb device
[18:50] <mezquitale> grawity, thanks for the advice LoL
[18:50] <vikk> my dvd writer doesnt read the dvd
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Purpley: use pastebin for multiple lines
[18:50] <sebsebseb> twright: well 9.04 with Ext4 is :D as well for the speed
[18:50] <apparle> iceroot: I can download the files Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz manually from site
[18:50] <grawity> livingdaylight: 22 is the port assigned to the SSH protocol. (Actually, I think leaving the box blank would've worked too.)
[18:50] <livingdaylight> k
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> vikk: which dvd?
[18:51] <twright> sebsebseb, yes, ext4 rocks :D
[18:51] <Purpley> how do i reset xorg?
[18:51] <baltadt> i am having trouble with dual boot. I can not load windows from boot screen. can anyone help
[18:51] <livingdaylight> grawity: should i tinker and modify to use mezquitale method? what is better? its working now, so don't wanna mess it up either :s
[18:51] <xubuntu> helo
[18:51] <tstebut> Please, does anybody know how I can change the default mounting point for a specific usb device ?
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Purpley: boot to recovery root console and run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:52] <sebsebseb> twright: not 100% in 9.04 though
[18:52] <grawity> livingdaylight: I think it's just a little too paranoid a configuration.
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> baltadt: review the item in /boot/grub/menu.lst that makes the windows partition boot
[18:52] <grawity> livingdaylight: But setting up SSH key authentication is a good idea.
[18:52] <xubuntu> sziasztok/hi
[18:52] <detrix> tstack_: hold on a sec, I will check something
[18:52] <sebsebseb> twright: ,but Karmic has a proper kernel and that for it so :D
[18:53] <fccf> Cluber: do you have linux-restricted-modules installed?
[18:53] <livingdaylight> grawity: isn't that what the password is for?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: any kernel canm read it with the right module
[18:53] <xubuntu> angolok vagytok/are you english?
[18:53] <livingdaylight> grawity: his tutorial disables password?
[18:53] <erve> minche are you back
[18:53] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: you there? can you explain please?
[18:53] <erve> that are ok now
[18:53] <erve> ???
[18:53] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: data lock up issue when deleting big files for example,   for certain people that have done it with 9.04
[18:53] <Purpley> anyone here?
[18:53] <mezquitale> grawity, youre right, i use rsa, my guide is a little out of date
[18:53] <grawity> livingdaylight: Yes, that tutorial disables password authentication to increase security.
[18:53] <xubuntu> I'm hungarian
[18:53] <fccf> !anyone | Purpley
[18:53] <grawity> livingdaylight: On computer A, run the 'ssh-keygen' command, it'll create a pair of keys.
[18:53] <tstebut> nobody ?
[18:53] <Cluber> fccf: erm
[18:54] <sebsebseb> !hr |  xubuntu
[18:54] <livingdaylight> grawity: what do i do with those?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: true, not had any issues here but i run karmic ;)
[18:54] <grawity> mezquitale: You might want to disable KbdInteractiveAuthentication too.
[18:54] <sebsebseb> xubuntu: no that's not it hmm
[18:54] <sebsebseb> !hg |  xubuntu
[18:54] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, it all depends on what youre comfortable with, i setup my SSH server so that its as secure as possible
[18:54] <grawity> livingdaylight: The public key, ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub, must be copied to a file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys in computer B.
[18:54] <sebsebseb> !english |  xubuntu
[18:54] <Xcerca> i'm working a a script and for part of it i just need to restart the x server with a new version of xorg.conf,  what would be the command for that ?  init # or restart x or somthing like that ?
[18:54] <Cluber> fccf: no
[18:54] <xubuntu> aha thanx
[18:54] <mezquitale> grawity, what does that allow/enable??
[18:54] <owen1> how to install firefox 3.5?
[18:54] <grawity> livingdaylight: Then you'll be able to connect from A to B without having to supply the password.
[18:55] <Cluber> fccf: should i?
[18:55] <sebsebseb> xubuntu: ,but if your Engilsh is good enough, feel free to chat here of course
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> owen1: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[18:55] <sebsebseb> xubuntu: chat I meant,  support
[18:55] <grawity> mezquitale: Keyboard-interactive authentication allows the server to send arbitrary requests to the client.
[18:55] <erUSUL> Xcerca: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:55] <owen1> ActionParsnip: thanks
[18:55] <sebsebseb> xubuntu: support questions, or helping others
[18:55] <xubuntu> aha
[18:55] <xubuntu> yes
[18:55] <fccf> Cluber: in this case, yes ... It may enable the driver, ... that card is kinda funky ... ... what is this system being used for?
[18:56] <grawity> mezquitale: Most often, it just sends a single "Password:" request. (But it can be used with one-time passwords such as S/Key and SecurID.0
[18:56] <Wizzup> Why does removing pulseaudio also force me to remove the package 'ubuntu-desktop' ... ?
[18:56] <moonshine> everyone, the option: vga=814 doesnt work for me at all!
[18:56] <Wizzup> (9.04)
[18:56] <grawity> mezquitale: So if you want to restrict auth to public keys, disable KbdInteractive
[18:56] <mezquitale> grawity, thanks for the 411
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Wizzup: ubuntu-desktop is a hollow metapackage
[18:56] <owen1> what package do i need to have flash working with ff 3.5. is it flashplugin-nonfree ?
[18:56] <Xcerca> erUSUL  thank you sir
[18:56] <G0gge> Hi, Quck question. I just downloaded a 64 bit Ubuntu, but it says AMD64, but I don't have an AMD processor I have Intel Core 2 Duo, will it work propperly for my laptop?
[18:56] <Cluber> fccf: erm
[18:57] <sebsebseb> owen1: flashplugin-installer
[18:57] <ManDay> Some suggested I should use Puppy with ubuntu, was that you grawity ?
[18:57] <grawity> G0gge: It will.
[18:57] <xubuntu> I'm going to search hungarian chat room .Bye
[18:57] <Cluber> fccf: ssh server, game server
[18:57] <iceroot> G0gge: amd64 is for intel and amd
[18:57] <G0gge> Thnak you
[18:57] <Xcerca> erUSUL  , will that ask for a user name and password ?
[18:57] <G0gge> Thanks :)
[18:57] <erUSUL> Wizzup: becouse the ubuntu devs thought a complete ubuntu desktop need pulseaudio. removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage is not angerous btw
[18:57] <owen1> sebsebseb: thanks
[18:57] <niels1> moonshine: Maybe your mointor doesnot support it, try here: http://linuxwiki.de/GRUB#VGA_Parameter
[18:57] <sebsebseb> owen1: np
[18:57] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: in my config file i can't see the line allow users
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Wizzup: its needed for jumping to the next release though,uninstalling it dos nothing
[18:57] <detrix> tstack_: if you right click on the icon of the usb drive you plugged in, and under preferences...
[18:57] <erUSUL> Xcerca: yep; unless the script is already run with sudo
[18:57] <Cluber> fccf: I installed that package
[18:57] <grawity> G0gge: The current 64-bit CPU architecture was created by AMD, and so it's still often called amd64.
[18:57] <Cluber> fccf: now what :P
[18:57] <Wizzup> Ok, because pulse audio simply doesn't work for me
[18:58] <erUSUL> Wizzup: just remember to install it again when you do dist upgrade (if you do)
[18:58] <detrix> tstack_: there are two tabs on the right for drive and volumn...
[18:58] <Wizzup> erUSUL: Ok, thanks
[18:58] <grawity> G0gge: (Intel tried to create something too, called Itanium (aka IA64), but it wasn't successful.)
[18:58] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: i found Password Authentication and set it to 'no' but can't fild AllowUsers
[18:58] <Xcerca> erUSUL thanks
[18:58] <whatnow> erUSUL: Does aptitude's autoclean function know that removing the metapackage isn't supposed to be dangerous too, by now?
[18:58] <owen1> what is the difference between adobe-flashplugin, lashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree ?
[18:58] <livingdaylight> grawity: ssh-keygen and its now asking me where to save the file?
[18:58] <fccf> Cluber: if that is the case ... I wouldn't run the desktop on it at all ... X requires alot of resources, if it is running then it is going to slow down gameplay in a big way for your game clients... just me prosthelizing, but you'd be better off with out the desktop entirely
[18:59] <grawity> livingdaylight: Just press Enter, it'll use the default location then.
[18:59] <baltadt> ActionParsnip: it all looks correct but when I select windows vista (loader) it says error 13
[18:59] <livingdaylight> grawity: but i thought i had to put it in computer B?
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> baltadt: what does error 13 mean?
[18:59] <grawity> livingdaylight: You'll copy it later.
[18:59] <Cluber> fccf: Is there a way
[18:59] <Cluber> for me to get a higher resolution?
[18:59] <livingdaylight> grawity: ok, so i could put it on Desktop for easier access?
[19:00] <baltadt> brb will try to load then report back
[19:00] <dual> I've compiled a program, can I make it a .deb with "make"?
[19:00] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, you can add "AllowUsers" to your config
[19:00] <Cluber> fccf: is it my graphics card that is bad?
[19:00] <erUSUL> !checkinstall | Cluber
[19:00] <grawity> dual: I think you need 'checkinstall'
[19:00] <livingdaylight> grawity: So, i have to go to Computer A & B and for each computer generate keys with "ssh-keygen" command?
[19:00] <dual> Granis, thanks
[19:00] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: anywhere?
[19:01] <grawity> livingdaylight: Yes. (You don't have to "go", actually -- you can just ssh)
[19:01] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: do i need to?
[19:02] <mezquitale> c
[19:02] <grawity> livingdaylight: Adding 'AllowUsers' (as mezquitale says) isn't needed. It does increase security some.
[19:02] <whatnow>                          
[19:02] <moonshine> hey guys, i have 225B download rate :D
[19:02] <bobbob1016> How can I use rsync to syncronize two folders?  I did a backup to a folder with drag and drop, but I'd like to double check everything "rsync -r /original/ /backup/" doesn't seem to do it
[19:02] <fccf> Cluber: for what? defeats the purpose .. it is a game server, you arn't using it to play the game, it just provides interaction between players on the network ... also (that graphics card is utterly crap - the Rage 128 chipset pretty much died with Dapper, it can be made to work; but, alas not at 1920x1280
[19:02] <moonshine> thats nice :D
[19:03] <Cluber> fccf: can you help me get it to atleast 1024*768
[19:03] <Linux-Idiot> thank god for easy file transfer between linux and windows, I can grab my music a photos and dumb down my vista partition to a whopping 50 gigs
[19:03] <Cluber> fccf: It's not a game server, its a bot, for a game room.
[19:03] <flanders> Is there a way to only download the wicd package, without installing or or removing Network Manager? I wish try them back and forth, without having to keep downloading them over and over.
[19:03] <mezquitale> bobbob1016, if it interests you, i use unison and ive never had an issue
[19:03] <fccf> Cluber: what kind of game?
[19:03] <Cluber> fccf: and its totally unuable for us at 800*600
[19:03] <Gnea> flanders: no, it's one or the other, not both
[19:03] <Sunny007> guys.. the short cut to reduce screen brightness is not working . it was working when I used plug n play ubuntu. Any help?
[19:04] <whatnow> xset dpms force on
[19:04] <mezquitale> Cluber, youre having problems with resolution?
[19:04] <Cluber> We can't even open mysql admin. We can't see the whole window
[19:04] <flanders> Gnea: I understand. But is there a way I have have both packages saved locally on my hard drive, so that I don't have to keep downloading them back and forth?
[19:04] <mikie123> updated to 9.04; all went well except my Inbox evolution mail has diasppeared.  The mail folders' indexes were rebuilt, bit where did my 3000 inbox messages go!
[19:04] <whatnow> xset dpms force on
[19:04] <Cluber> mezquitale: yes
[19:04] <whatnow> crap
[19:04] <bobbob1016> mezquitale: Either way, so long as I can be sure everything was backed up
[19:04] <flanders> Gnea: I could not find the .deb for jaunty.
[19:04] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: why ssh-keygen -t dsa  and not just ssh-keygen?
[19:04] <Gnea> flanders: of course, all packages are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/ by default until purged/cleaned up
[19:04] <flanders> Gnea: When I try apt-get -d install wicd, it still wants to remove network manager.
[19:05] <flanders> Gnea: Oh, nice. Thanks man!
[19:05] <Gnea> flanders: it'll say that - let it
[19:05] <Gnea> flanders: cheers :)
[19:05] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: i got saved to .ssh/id_rsa not id_dsa
[19:05] <Cluber> fccf: It's just a bot for a game room, jippii.
[19:05] <fccf> Cluber: why don't you set up permissions in mysql to allow you access from elsewhere and use the mysql admin client on another machine ... again it is a server ... you don't need a desktop on it
[19:05] <Cluber> but we use it for other thiings too, and 800*600 isn't operatable.
[19:05] <flanders> Gnea: That'll work for me. I just needed a local copy of the packages, without having to keep redownloading them, that's why. And thanks again!
[19:05] <puff> How hard is it / is it feasible to get HFS write working?
[19:05] <mezquitale> Cluber, first try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:06] <grawity> livingdaylight: There are two types of keys - RSA and DSA. I don't know which one is more secure. But RSA is the default, and I assume the OpenSSH guys knew what they were choosing for a default.
[19:06] <NEWLiNE> Evening All
[19:06] <fccf> Mezquitale: that will only give him 800x600
[19:06] <Cluber> fccf: I do need a desktop on it
[19:06] <Cluber> we use it for multiple things
[19:06] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, it's good you caught my error, please use rsa not dsa, what I do is a use a usb memory stick and copied my key to the server
[19:06] <Cluber> im just asking if its possible, i know theres alternatives.
[19:07] <fccf> Cluber: I'd reccommend going out and buying a better video card ... Rage 128 is very depricated
[19:07] <tblake> A bit of help please!  How do I get the "OGG development headers"?
[19:07] <baltadt> Actionparsnip: error13 invalid or unsupported executable format
[19:07] <Cluber> mezquitale: I've already done this process
[19:08] <Cluber> fccf: so thats the issue, the graphics card
[19:08] <detrix> whats a good nvidia card that has dual heads, for under $100?
[19:08] <mezquitale> Cluber, first you need to google the specs on your monitor, you want to find out horizontal and vertical refresh rates and the recommend refresh rate on your monitor
[19:08] <Cluber> mezquitale: hmm
[19:08] <iceroot> detrix: a passiv 9400 50Ōé¼
[19:08] <owen1> i installed firefox-3.5 and flashplugin-installer from aptitude but can't see flash.
[19:08] <owen1> any ideas?
[19:08] <Cluber> even if its a graphics card driver issue?
[19:08] <iceroot> owen1: restarted firefox?
[19:09] <detrix> iceroot: thats an nvidia card?
[19:09] <Cluber> fccf: is what mezquitale telling me valid?
[19:09] <iceroot> detrix: yes
[19:09] <mezquitale> Cluber, afterwards youre going to edit your xorg.conf, make sure you make it up before you do anything, backup your xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[19:09] <iceroot> detrix: nvidia geforce 9400 passiv cooling, pci-e, 2x dvi + 1 x hdmi
[19:09] <mezquitale> Cluber, meant to say make sure you back up your xorg.conf
[19:10] <detrix> iceroot: oops, I should have added I am still at 4x agp only
[19:10] <owen1> iceroot: yes. when i go here ttp://www.slideshare.net/category/finance  i see the spining icon.
[19:10] <puff> Or alternatively, I know it's possible to extract tracks from an ipod, is it feasible to do that under ubuntu?  I could try to back up the tracks from my ipod and reformat it as fat32.
[19:10] <fccf> Cluber: mezquitale is correct .. to a point, .... mezquitale: currently his xorg.conf is what it would be after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:10] <iceroot> detrix: hm, needed for gaming?
[19:10] <baltadt> I am having problems with loading vista. I select windows vista (loader) and it tells me error 13: invalid or unsupported executable format
[19:10] <iceroot> owen1: youtube is working?
[19:11] <detrix> iceroot: not really, I play a few games, nothing to intensive.
[19:11] <owen1> iceroot: yes, it worked even without flashplugin-installer
[19:11] <baltadt> if i select the other windows vista loader it says error 12: invalid device request
[19:11] <livingdaylight> grawity: should they both be able to connect to each other with ssh at the same time?
[19:11] <grawity> livingdaylight: Yes
[19:11] <baltadt> can anyone help
[19:11] <iceroot> detrix: i like the geforce ti 4200 very much, its agp but a veryold card
[19:11] <mezquitale> even using default vga drivers  you should at least be able to use 1024 x 760
[19:11] <detrix> iceroot: I mostly want to be able to attach my tv to the s-video out and watch hulu shows
[19:11] <Cluber> mezquitale: That would be good
[19:11] <livingdaylight> grawity: Cannot display location "sftp://livingdaylight@192.168.101/home/livingdaylight"
[19:12] <Cluber> 1024*760 is workable
[19:12] <detrix> iceroot: I have an nvidia fx 5500,  I thought it was a dual head but nope
[19:12] <iceroot> detrix: you can use every nvidia-card with s-video out
[19:12] <mezquitale> Cluber, you know what, type "xrandr" and let us know what resolutions linux says youre capable
[19:12] <fccf> livingdaylight: 192.168.101 is not a valid IP address
[19:12] <grawity> fccf: It is.
[19:12] <iceroot> detrix: nvidia is working fine with ubuntu, so buy the card you like
[19:12] <grawity> fccf: It expands to 192.168.0.101
[19:12] <TheEvilOne> can anyone tell me how to import all of my bookmarks and passwords from firefox 3 to shirenteko 3.5?
[19:13] <detrix> iceroot: I have an nvidia fx 5500,  I thought it was a dual head but nope
[19:13] <livingdaylight> grawity: computer A (laptop) is connecting to computer B (Desktop) but not other way round?
[19:13] <grawity> livingdaylight: Did you install openssh-server on both?
[19:13] <fccf> grawity: didn't know that
[19:13] <livingdaylight> fccf: huh? but ifconfig on my laptop tells me it is
[19:13] <fccf> livingdaylight: disregard what I said
[19:13] <grawity> livingdaylight: You forgot a part of the IP address, actually.
[19:14] <livingdaylight> grawity: what?
[19:14] <grawity> fccf: Try 192.168.2345 :)
[19:14] <livingdaylight> grawity: my bad
[19:14] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, you have openssh configured in your desktop?
[19:15] <detrix> iceroot: the nvidia FX 5500 is a great card, but it wont do dual head.  I would need a way to switch easily from monitor to tv and then back.
[19:15] <Cluber> mezquitale: http://pastebin.com/d272be983 this is my monitor specs
[19:15] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: shiretoko should have done this automatically
[19:15] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: it did for me
[19:15] <iceroot> detrix: it wont because there is no s-video output? or because you cant get it to work?
[19:15] <anachronoks> hello, how difficult would it be to restore data from a deleted ext3 partition that's been partially overwritten?
[19:16] <owen1> i installed firefox-3.5 and flashplugin-installer from aptitude but can't see flash. any ideas?
[19:16] <grawity> anachronoks: Quite difficult.
[19:16] <erUSUL> !datarecovery | anachronoks
[19:16] <TheEvilOne> erUSUL: everyone keeps telling me that but it did not do it automatically for me... is there a file I can just copy to the new version that contains all of these things?
[19:16] <erUSUL> !undelete | anachronoks
[19:16] <detrix> iceroot: everything that I have done to get it to do dual head has not worked.  the fx 5500 has s-video out.  How do I get it to work?
[19:16] <ManDay> I got a "shiretoko" web browser? what is this and how do i get rid of it?
[19:16] <dalfz> my "20db mic boost" option is missing from my volume control in jaunty. any tips?
[19:16] <iceroot> detrix: restricted driver?
[19:16] <anachronoks> okay thanks
[19:17] <livingdaylight> grawity: right, now for the tricky part, i have to cross-over both keys to where?
[19:17] <grawity> !ff35 | ManDay
[19:17] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: for bookmarks there is but for the rest of the settings seems harder
[19:17] <detrix> yes, I believe I have the 178 version.
[19:17] <grawity> ManDay: The link will explain.
[19:17] <tux_> HI guys ! I have just installed Ubuntu 8.04 LS, on my Dell Inspiron 1420 laptop. My sound is not working. Pls help.
[19:17] <grawity> livingdaylight: A's ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub --> B's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[19:17] <janis> hi
[19:17] <fccf> dalfx: have you dug through the properties on volume control ... that isn't enabled by default
[19:17] <ManDay> who did suggest i should install firefox 3.5 ?!?!?!
[19:17] <ManDay> and WHY?
[19:17] <livingdaylight> grawity: and vice versa?
[19:17] <ManDay> jeez now i got two firefox here
[19:18] <grawity> livingdaylight: Yes.
[19:18] <minche> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264671 please, anyone with any idea whatsoever
[19:18] <ManDay> someone has been trying to abuse me as his beta tester AGAINST my will
[19:18] <tux_> Yeah volume controls are fine
[19:18] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: find ~/.mozilla -name '*book*' <<< that will show the html and json files for bookmarks
[19:18] <mezquitale> tux_, sound is not working on headphones or your speakers?
[19:18] <Artemis3> Fx 3.5 is great
[19:18] <skel> Fx 3.5 has some js issues
[19:19] <TheEvilOne> erUSUL: what about the profile.ini File?
[19:19] <dirty> I'm getting GRUB Error 22 when I boot up. I am having the hardest time getting windows 7 to boot with grub installed
[19:19] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: you can import them in Bookmarks>Organice Bookmarks
[19:19] <dirty> can someone please help?
[19:19] <owen1> who is the genius that named ff3.5 'shiretoko'??? why to confuse the user?
[19:19] <grawity> !ff35 > owen1
[19:19] <TheEvilOne> erUSUL: what about passwords?
[19:19] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: dunno really...maybe you can just copy it maybe not
[19:19] <detrix> iceroot: as far as I have been able to tell, FX5500 is not dual head.  am I wrong on that?
[19:19] <tux_> mezquitale, sound is not playing on my speakers, but its palying on my headphone
[19:19] <grawity> owen1: Ubottu's link will explain it.
[19:19] <iceroot> detrix: look at your card if it is more then 1 output
[19:20] <livingdaylight> grawity: there is not .ssh/authorized_keys to paste into?
[19:20] <giuseppe__> !list
[19:20] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: as i said my ff3.5 did it everytihng automatically so i did not face those problems nor i know any easy solution...
[19:20] <grawity> livingdaylight: Create one.
[19:20] <xmnt_> owen1, ManDay: there is a script if you google that will install the latest FF3.5 release and keep it updated
[19:20] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: maybe there is a specific firefox channel ?
[19:20] <mezquitale> tux_, run "alsamixer" and see if you can raise the volume in your speakers using alsamixer
[19:20] <livingdaylight> hehe
[19:20] <detrix> iceroot: it has three outs.  DVI, VGA, S-VIDEO.
[19:21] <Artemis3> hmm what, for 9.04 just add the launchpad repos for Fx :P
[19:21] <grawity> livingdaylight: Actually, just scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub 192.168.0.101:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[19:21] <iceroot> detrix: so use the restricted driver and manage the output with the installed nvidia-tool
[19:21] <doc-saintly> I just installed a radeon hd 4650 into my box and it is having trouble with sound outpt. It works for some things but not others. Any ideas?
[19:21] <iceroot> !nvidia | detrix
[19:21] <dirty> !grub
[19:21] <ManDay> What's the normal ubuntu update mananger called in the repo?
[19:21] <livingdaylight> grawity: huh? scp?
[19:22] <grawity> livingdaylight: File copy over SSH.
[19:22] <TheEvilOne> erUSUL: when I go to import in shirenteko it only shows OPERA as a choice to import from?
[19:22] <tux_> mezquitale, thanks i will try that & get back
[19:22] <erUSUL> TheEvilOne: :|
[19:22] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, just use your usb stick to copy your key, that's what I did
[19:22] <owen1> i installed firefox-3.5 and flashplugin-installer from aptitude but can't see flash. any ideas?
[19:22] <Ryann> How can I install .bin files, such as java.
[19:22] <livingdaylight> grawity: is that one command that creates the /authorized_key folder on the other machine?
[19:23] <erUSUL> !java | Ryann you do not need the bin for java
[19:23] <grawity> livingdaylight: authorized_keys should be a file, not a folder.
[19:23] <detrix> iceroot: I did all that, but there is no dual head controls.  I am only allowed one output at any given time.
[19:23] <dirty> I'm getting GRUB Error 22 when I boot up. I am having the hardest time getting windows 7 to boot with grub installed
[19:23] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: i'm fine copying over via ssh
[19:23] <dirty> can anyone help?
[19:23] <Ryann> erUSL & ubottu: Thanks.
[19:23] <livingdaylight> grawity: ahhh... have togo back and correct that.. does your command do it straight in one go? and create teh file at the same time?
[19:23] <erUSUL> Ryann: no problem. ubottu is a bot
[19:23] <iceroot> detrix: hm,never used s-video but you can use dual-head with that
[19:23] <Ryann> Oh, ubottu's a bot. Lol.
[19:24] <erUSUL> !botsnack
[19:24] <anachronoks> I only ask about recovering files from old partitions because I gave one of my older computers away, and then later realized it had sensitive information I forgot to delete.
[19:24] <anachronoks> But I did delete the partition.
[19:24] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, excellent! if not you can always use samba to copy the key blindly and without security
[19:25] <fccf> doc-saintly: it is probably outputting audio out of the HDMI port
[19:25] <detrix> iceroot: I will try again later. currently have my old ati all-n-wonder card that can dual head, ripping a dvd right now.  will try again when dvd is done ripping.
[19:25] <grawity> mezquitale: Hey, he owns both boxen, and this is a LAN. Not even I am that paranoid.
[19:25] <KerberosHades> hi
[19:25] <iceroot> detrix: good luck, i cant you help at that point :(
[19:26] <doc-saintly> fccf: yes, and that's what i have it plugged into
[19:26] <mezquitale> anachronoks, to completely erase information from a harddrive you need to wipe the hard drive, you can still recover data from erased partitions
[19:26] <wildc4rd_> evening all
[19:26] <detrix> iceroot: thanx for your help anyways...I will be back when the dvd is done.
[19:26] <Cluber> mezquitale: can you help
[19:26] <xmnt_> afternoon
[19:26] <fccf> doc-saintly: you still getting sound out of the built-in sound? or is there one?
[19:27] <anachronoks> mezquitale: This was an ext3 partition, does that make any difference?
[19:27] <doc-saintly> fccf: i disabled it in the bios, and havne't tried, but i only see the one sound card
[19:27] <mezquitale> grawity, once he realizes how easy it is to configure openssh without a doubt he's going to try dynsdns.org to resolve his IP and he's going to want to update his files from anywhere
[19:27] <grawity> mezquitale: True
[19:27] <mezquitale> !ask | Cluber
[19:28] <livingdaylight> grawity: should i be having a file called known hosts show up too?
[19:28] <grawity> mezquitale: By the way, have you already added "StrictHostKeyChecking yes" to your ~/.ssh/config?
[19:28] <grawity> livingdaylight: Yes, it should be created after the first connection.
[19:28] <monokrom1> Hi. I just installed the server distro, and edited my /etc/network/interfaces - but it keeps changing my IP to a dhcp IP at random
[19:28] <monokrom1> Should I be editing my IP settings through another medium?
[19:28] <dual> I like gnome, but I also like the openbox/fluxbox style themes. Are there any good metacity themes that looks like an openbox theme?
[19:29] <mezquitale> anachronoks, it doesn't matter, unless your partition was encrypted, data can still be recovered from the partition, i suggest you wipe the hard drive so securely erase files
[19:29] <mezquitale> grawity, what is the benefit of that?  I do not believe I have added that one to my config
[19:29] <max82fr> Hi people
[19:29] <max82fr> I've just installed ubuntu
[19:29] <anachronoks> mezquitale: Okay, will do that next time. Thanks
[19:29] <grawity> mezquitale: The default is 'ask', which makes ssh (the client) ask you if you want to approve a new server.
[19:29] <max82fr> I've only just updated to v9.05
[19:30] <fccf> doc-saintly: did ubuntu work with the onboard sound? you might consider using it and blacklisting the ATI audio module ... Reading around; that has worked for some
[19:30] <arvind_khadri> dual, maybe you can try gnome-look.org
[19:30] <Guest47470> how come i canot insmode rt2870sta
[19:30] <Guest47470> y wont it work
[19:30] <max82fr> now every time i start up my pc, it prompts me for login and password
[19:30] <iceroot> max82fr: you have installed ubuntu and upgraded to 9.04?
[19:30] <doc-saintly> fccf: yea. i'd rather push it all through the hdmi though :\ its the only reason i got this specific grahpics card
[19:30] <arvind_khadri> !hi | max82fr
[19:30] <monokrome> Anyone know the remedy to this issue?
[19:30] <dual> arvind_khadri, yes, I'm looking there now, but I thought maybe somebody knew of any :)
[19:30] <max82fr> is there any way to not have that asked everytime
[19:31] <xmnt_> max82fr, that's a good thing
[19:31] <mezquitale> grawity, i believe i want to leave that as default, my IP changes all the time and I would rather see that warning
[19:31] <xmnt_> max82fr, but yes you can disable it
[19:31] <iceroot> max82fr: yes, use auto-login
[19:31] <max82fr> how?
[19:31] <arvind_khadri> max82fr, you can disable it, system -> admin -> login window
[19:31] <max82fr> and?
[19:32] <Cluber> mezquitale: i did ask lol. you were half way through explaining, about the resolution problem
[19:32]  * DigitalKiwi is a fan of unsecure computers, auto login ftw, for added amusement autologin as root
[19:32] <livingdaylight> grawity: i messed that up and restarted, except now when i drop the file "authorized_key" into ~.ssh i don't get thtat other file pop up anymore
[19:33] <tux_> mezquitale , i have checked alsamixer settings, and it looks fine  ( 100% for Master & PCM)
[19:33] <grawity> livingdaylight: What happens when you try to ssh computerb from computera?
[19:33] <tux_> but still my speakers are dead
[19:33] <max82fr> oki thanks for that
[19:33] <mezquitale> Cluber, you still havent told me the output of xrandr
[19:33] <max82fr> will try
[19:33] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: slight troll there :D
[19:34] <livingdaylight> grawity: wwell, they're still linked
[19:34] <mezquitale> tux_, there should be an option for your speaker in alsamixer
[19:34] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: not a troll, just a wee bit of sarcasm
[19:34] <grawity> livingdaylight: Open a second ssh connection, then.
[19:34] <[Soap]> is anyone here familiar with the wget command?
[19:34] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: ah ok
[19:34] <DigitalKiwi> intimately? no, but i've used it in the past
[19:34] <livingdaylight> grawity: in fact i'm now copying the same process on the other computer copying the id_rsa.pub  file via ssh
[19:34] <grawity> [Soap]: What is your actual question?
[19:35] <[Soap]> Im wondering if someone can help me with wget
[19:35] <xmnt_> [Soap], what are you trying to do?
[19:35] <[Soap]> Im running it on Windows, but I would think the syntax would be the same
[19:35] <Myrtti> [Soap]: that remains to be seen until you actually ask
[19:35] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: he wants to autologin, i'm just trying to subtly hint that that is a bad idea (tm)
[19:35] <xmnt_> [Soap], wget http://domain.com/file.ext
[19:35] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: yeah I missed that
[19:36] <Cluber> mezquitale: http://pastebin.com/d3747ac88
[19:36] <fccf> doc-saintly: everything I am reading tells me that in order to get that card to work, you will have to re-compile alsa ... or wait, it may be fixed in Karmic
[19:36] <ManDay> Guys my firefox doesnt work. When I enter an adress the activity indicator spins and the window remains white
[19:36] <evilGUI> Anyone know why my radeon 4850 will cause my machine to lockup if I leave compiz on overnight?
[19:36] <doc-saintly> fccf: really? That's a drag. is alsa hard to compile?
[19:36] <DigitalKiwi> http://linuxmanpages.com/man1/wget.1.php [Soap]
[19:36] <xmnt_> ManDay, how did you install?
[19:36] <apparle> this is the set of my commands I executed http://paste.ubuntu.com/269927/ and here is my sources.list Plz help http://paste.ubuntu.com/269929/ I tried archive.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com also
[19:37] <ManDay> xmnt_, i might have found the problem already
[19:37] <evilGUI> I'm using the binary drivers from ATI's site and don't see anything in my logs ctrl+alt+backspace with don't zap diabled doesn't do a thing,
[19:37] <ManDay> say, in which file do i change my computername?
[19:37] <mezquitale> Cluber, find out your horizontal and vertical refresh rates and the recommend refresh rate for your monitor but first backup your xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[19:37] <[Soap]> is there a way make to wget save URL's as individual files?
[19:37] <apparle> evilGUI: try AltGr+SysRq+k
[19:37] <[Soap]> maybe it's just assuming everything is the same file
[19:38] <matt132> i want to delete songbird, but it's not in Add/Remove Apps...
[19:38] <fccf> doc-saintly: not too difficult ... somewhat of a guide here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/337590
[19:38] <tux_> mezquitale, i am relatively new to Linux. What is did was I typed the cmd alsamixer in terminal. I can see 3 bars , 1) Master; 2) PCM, 3) Mic.. all are 100
[19:38] <jmarsden> [Soap]: wget -m http://example.com   will mirror the example.com website... is that what you are trying to do?
[19:38] <mezquitale> matt132, sudo apt-get remove songbird
[19:38] <xmnt_> [Soap], you still didn't answer my ?  what are you trying to do
[19:38] <livingdaylight> grawity: i just unmounted both and remounted and it works fine
[19:38] <MrSchmo> hey guys, which is better regular xchat or xchat-gnome client?
[19:38] <mezquitale> matt132, or you can use synaptic if you want to use a GUI
[19:38] <[Soap]> I have a page with a lot of links that I would like to download instead of manually clicking and saving each one
[19:39] <evilGUI> apparle: Tried it, but the system seems like it hard locked.
[19:39] <[Soap]> Im wondering if wget can be used for that
[19:39] <[Soap]> I tried running it but it just seems to save to nowhere
[19:39] <fahadsadah> What's better?
[19:39] <fahadsadah> gzip or LZMA?
[19:39] <fpier> hello.. does anybody have a update sources.list ?
[19:39] <evilGUI> apparle: The power button is the only way to get it back in working order.
[19:39] <matt132> mezquitale, no sudo is good, i figure I should learn terminal commands now rather than later. Thanks alot.
[19:39] <iceroot> MrSchmo: try both and decide by yourself
[19:39] <evilGUI> apparle: If I disable compiz the problem goes away oddly enough.
[19:39] <apparle> evilGUI: which card??
[19:39] <mezquitale> tux_, looks like   your hardware isn'g supported, try going to the room #alsa and see if someone can help you configure the drivers
[19:39] <jmarsden> [Soap]: What exact options did you give to wget?
[19:39] <evilGUI> apparle: Radeon 4850
[19:39] <[Soap]> maybe its just the Windows version that's buggy. Hold on, let me try the same thing on a Unix shell
[19:40] <evilGUI> apparle: I'm using the binary drivers from ATI's site.
[19:40] <fccf> [Soap]: wet will save a folder wherever you run it from ... i.e. ~/  ...
[19:40] <fahadsadah> mezquitale: If you're using GNOME, xchat-gnome. If KDE, just normal xchat.
[19:40] <racha> i need help with PulseAudio ... need to get my Jack Ports same like in this pic. : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[19:40] <tux_> mezquitale, sure thanks a lot !
[19:40] <ManDay> is there some place where i can download the ubuntu DarkRoom theme?
[19:40] <grawity> fahadsadah: Why not normal Xchat on GNOME?
[19:40] <Cluber> mezquitale: I have backed up my xorg.cong and http://pastebin.com/d272be983 this is my monitor specs
[19:40] <livingdaylight> grawity: is there anything else i need to do?
[19:40] <nearst> h iall
[19:40] <yeti> !fr
[19:40] <apparle> which version of ubuntu
[19:41] <mezquitale> matt132, sudo doesnt remove software, it gives you administrator priviledges, "apt-get" is the actual command that does the software install/uninstall
[19:41] <DigitalKiwi> [Soap]: you want the links or the actual data that the links go to?
[19:41] <fahadsadah> grawity: I don't know. If there's xchat-gnome, and you're using GNOME, it's only logical to use that.
[19:41] <MrSchmo> ill stick with xchat-gnome, because im on ubuntu linux
[19:41] <grawity> fahadsadah: xchat-gnome is just a GNOMified Xchat: less options, uses gconf, interface is a little different.
[19:41] <dyf1> is it possible to get a precompiled audacity 1.3.9 beta for ubuntu?
[19:41] <grawity> fahadsadah: But the original Xchat is still a GTK app.
[19:41] <fahadsadah> Is LZMA better than gzip?
[19:41] <fpier> can anybody share me a sources.list that actually work?
[19:42] <matt132> mezquitale, i learn something new everyday. thanks. :)
[19:42] <[Soap]> I guess it cant do what I want
[19:42] <mezquitale> Cluber, youre going to edit your xorg.conf and create a section called "Monitor"
[19:42] <fahadsadah> !sources.list  | fpier
[19:42] <[Soap]> is there a program that can download multiple links from a website so that I dont have to save each one?
[19:42] <dyf1> fahadsadah: according to fedora, it is
[19:42] <fahadsadah> dyf1: Thanks.
[19:42] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[19:42] <mezquitale> MrSchmo, gnome xchat is ugly, you want to try the actual xchat
[19:42] <[Soap]> I thought wget would but it doesnt seem to work
[19:42] <fahadsadah> [Soap]: wget -r
[19:42] <jmarsden> fpier: Mine is http://pastebin.com/f5bcbf4f2
[19:42] <erUSUL> [Soap]: gui or cli ?
[19:42] <[Soap]> it just makes one huge page
[19:42] <[Soap]> hmm
[19:42] <fpier> ty jmarsden
[19:43] <fahadsadah> [Soap]: Saves that page, and anything it links to.
[19:43] <DigitalKiwi> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget [Soap]
[19:43] <fahadsadah> Of course, this is recursive.
[19:43] <DigitalKiwi> you would want to remove --domain
[19:43] <fahadsadah> I used it to back up the whole http://qdb.us/
[19:43] <Tetracomm> I want to set up a server which would serve content to few people, and I am using Ubuntu, what is the simplest way to start? (which programs, etc)
[19:43] <[Soap]> oh wait
[19:43] <[Soap]> I think I got it now
[19:43] <fahadsadah> Tetracomm: What sort of server? Web?
[19:43] <sobczyk> is there possibility to stop update manager popups, and enable icon in the taskbar?
[19:43] <fahadsadah> [Soap]: One thing
[19:43] <[Soap]> mm hmm
[19:43] <fahadsadah> Are you using this for Wikipedia?
[19:44] <[Soap]> iy's due to the problem of a lot of the pages being the same URL with differnet paramteres
[19:44] <erUSUL> Tetracomm: how do you want to serve that content. file sharing; web server? ftp server? ssh ?
[19:44] <rose_> suck it
[19:44] <fahadsadah> [Soap]: Is it for wikipedia?
[19:44] <fahadsadah> !language | rose_
[19:44] <[Soap]> no
[19:44] <CarlFK> I did a dist-upgrade when my phone was plugged into usb, now my box won't boot unless my phone is plugged in.  I get "invalid device string"  I was able to get it to boot  by hitting esc and deleting the root=guid line.  what is the command to re-generate menu.lst?
[19:44] <fccf> dyf1: it can be found here https://launchpad.net/%7Emotumedia/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/718512/+listing-archive-extra
[19:44] <fahadsadah> [Soap]: Oh. I know you're a pedian, and WP excludes dynamically generated pages in robots.txt
[19:45] <PVFarm> Tetracomm:  Xampp.  http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html  Read the security information carefully and set up the passwords.
[19:45] <DigiAngel> Hey all...anone alove and away?
[19:45] <MrSchmo> mezquitale besides the looks, is there any difference between the two xchat, regular and gnome version?
[19:45] <[Soap]> ok thanks
[19:45] <[Soap]> I think you guys helped me
[19:45] <livingdaylight> grawity: agues, that's done - thx
[19:45] <[Soap]> it cant do wgat I want butits not the fault of wget
[19:45] <[Soap]> thanks anyway;/part
[19:45] <jmarsden> sobczyk: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904  and see the bit about   gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false
[19:45] <Cluber> mezquitale: Okay monitor created
[19:45] <Myrtti> rose_: welcome to #ubuntu, did you have a problem with your Ubuntu?
[19:46] <Gogge> Hi, I just deleted my Ubuntu partition in Vista, and now when i restarted my computer I got a GRUB Error 17, I just wanna get back to my Vista. How do i fix this?
[19:46] <DigiAngel> Question:  My loging motd says I have 5 packages that can be updated, and 10 that are security updates, but apt-get upgarde says I have 3 held
[19:46] <Myrtti> DigiAngel: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will get all of them
[19:46] <mezquitale> Cluber, using the specs from your monitor youre going to create a "Modeline" using gtf,  here is an example using my monitor, you have to supply your own specs to configure xorg.conf for your monitor: http://pastebin.com/m48d5dad5
[19:46] <DigiAngel> Ah pimpy
[19:46] <fccf> Gogge: use the windows recovery environment to restore windows bootloader
[19:46] <xmnt_> fpier, uname -a
[19:46] <CarlFK> DigiAngel: the 'easy' way is to install Ubuntu again, then get help removing it
[19:46] <Gogge> uhh... how do I do that? :S
[19:46] <DigiAngel> LOL
[19:47] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: thanks, I can access my computers the one from the other now - that was the goal. All the extra creating and swapping keys around, not sure what that did, but i think i'm done
[19:47] <CarlFK> DigiAngel: cuz right now you don't have any of the tools needed to fix it
[19:47] <racha> i need help with PulseAudio ... need to get my Jack Ports same like in this pic. : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[19:47] <fahadsadah> Gogge: XP or Vista/7?
[19:47] <maarten> how can i record sound with audacity
[19:47] <Gogge> Vista
[19:47] <fccf> Gogge: ask about it in ##windows
[19:47] <Tetracomm> Thank you, PVFarm. :)
[19:47] <xmnt_> Gogge, the general procedure is to learn before you do
[19:47] <DigiAngel> Last question..this is server...I'd like to install X without Gnome (gonna run fluxbox) is it just apt-get x-server?
[19:47] <fahadsadah> Go to the repair screen, and "Startup Repair"
[19:48] <Ubuntu_rpatton> hello
[19:48] <fahadsadah> !bite | xmnt_
[19:48] <fahadsadah> DigiAngel: xorg, I think
[19:48] <fpier> jmarsden it worked.. fixed all my problems with depending packs.. ty
[19:48] <Myrtti> DigiAngel: to install fluxbox, just install it
[19:48] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, now install unison and that will allow you to update your files in your laptop and desktop seamlessly
[19:48] <jmarsden> DigiAngel: You may want to try   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    to get all the updates you are wanting.
[19:48] <jmarsden> fpier: Good, no problem
[19:48] <Gogge> Good idea, Ill just travel back in time. Thanks for the advice
[19:48] <Myrtti> DigiAngel: it should pull all the dependencies like with it
[19:48] <innomen> hi all, mu machine comepletly hangs sometimes when net connection is lost, any ideas why?
[19:48] <Ubuntu_rpatton> anybody haveing any problems with xchat lately
[19:48] <racha> i need help with PulseAudio ... need to get my Jack Ports same like in this pic. : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[19:48] <Myrtti> DigiAngel: it should pull all the dependencies like X with it
[19:48] <DigiAngel> Ok..I will give that a shot....Ubuntu on a mac mini...gotta love it ;)
[19:49] <DigiAngel> That Myrtti, I'll give that a shot
[19:49] <DigiAngel> Later folks..server reboot time with new kernel :)
[19:49] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: ? when one computer updates, the other one too? Does that already?
[19:49] <PVFarm> Welcome, Tetracomm
[19:49] <DigitalKiwi> Gogge: it was I believe a "for future reference" advice tidbit
[19:50] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, unison allows you to update your files in both machines
[19:50] <Gogge> Ill keep that in mind. However I will add that I was adviced by someone else to format the partition to rem,ove ubuntu,. so it wasnt solely my fault
[19:50] <fuxxy> How do I find out which QT libs I have installed?
[19:50] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: what files?
[19:50] <racha> i need help with PulseAudio ... need to get my Jack Ports same like in this pic. : http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7892/windowsvu.jpg
[19:51] <ManDay> How can I use the "DarkRoom" controls WITHOUT emerald?
[19:51] <Myrtti> Gogge: windows installation disk should have the tools to repair the bootloader. however, you might find more help in ##windows, as someone already said
[19:51] <SixtyFold> to add a mount to rc.local script, does it matter where in the script i put it?
[19:51] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: i apt-get installed unison, do i need to access it, or does it do it automatically now? I don't know where it sits
[19:51] <fuxxy> SixtyFold, you'd be better putting the mount in /etc/fstab
[19:51] <SixtyFold> can i just put it at the top of the script under the info?
[19:52] <Gogge> #windows
[19:52] <Gogge> lol
[19:52] <SixtyFold> it will mount the drive i want to mount by default in /etc/fstab
[19:52] <jmarsden> livingdaylight: It is a command.   man unison for more details
[19:52] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, well you used to use samba for a reason, right?  Let's say you're working on a file and you constantly update it on both your laptop and desktop, you can use unison to synchronize the file on both machines
[19:52] <fuxxy> Gogge, no, it's ##windows
[19:52] <fuxxy> SixtyFold, there's an option in fstab to mount the partition automatically.
[19:52] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, you have to install unison first and then you have to configure it
[19:52] <fuxxy> no init script needed
[19:53] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: so, like 'syncing' a lot of applications do that now. I'll have to read more about it
[19:53] <SixtyFold> okay, this is for mounting a share drive in virtualbox
[19:53] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: is it a command-line app only?
[19:53] <fuxxy> SixtyFold, so the drive is not accessable at boot time?
[19:53] <JackBeSlow> I have a problem with my wifi card and ndiswrapper, does anyone think they might be able to help? I have an asus wl-138g v1 which there are no linux drivers for, when I use ndiswrapper shortly after modprobing everything freezes.
[19:53] <SixtyFold> no
[19:53] <fuxxy> but your init script will run at boot time?
[19:53] <SixtyFold> well, i mean, sorta, but not by the virtual machine i wouldnt think
[19:54] <[Soap]> wget on Windows doesnt support saving, it can only browse for files
[19:54] <[Soap]> and the one on Linux doesnt work properly
[19:54] <fuxxy> SixtyFold, would you mind posting the applicable line in /etc/fstab for the partition you want to automatically mount?
[19:54] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, no, unison is a GUI app but you have to configure it, you can configure it like you did with openssh or you can use the GUI, i configured mine WITHOUT the gui
[19:54] <SixtyFold> hold on
[19:55] <SixtyFold> sudo mount -t vboxsf folder-name /media/share
[19:55] <SixtyFold> its a virtual box share folder
[19:55] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: i don't see an entry for unison in my applications menu
[19:56] <jmarsden> livingdaylight: It is a command line program.  Run is from a shell prompt
[19:56] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, it's under "accesories", did you install unison already?? sudo apt-get install unison
[19:56] <MrSchmo> can the regular xchat uses plugins like xchat-gnome?
[19:56] <DigitalKiwi> yes MrSchmo
[19:56] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: yes
[19:56] <mezquitale> MrSchmo, i dont know the answer to that one but the last time I used xchat-gnome I almost went out of my mind
[19:57] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, it should be in "accesories"
[19:57] <fuxxy> SixtyFold, apparently I'm mistaken, it seems just adding your mount command to rc.local is the correct solution.
[19:57] <fuxxy> no sudo is required, since rc.local is already ran by root
[19:57] <SixtyFold> so, is it find to just add it right below the intro comments?
[19:57] <fuxxy> mount -t vboxsf folder-name /media/share &
[19:57] <fuxxy> SixtyFold, the location should not matter, IIRC.
[19:58] <andrew_> can anybody help me stream music from a windows machine to my ubuntu machine
[19:58] <livingdaylight> mezquitale: no, don't see it
[19:58] <fuxxy> as long as nothing ELSE in rc.local affects your virtualbox
[19:58] <puff> How do I reformat an ipod to fat32 using a linux box?
[19:58] <SixtyFold> nope, cool, thanks
[19:58] <grawity> puff: mkfs.vfat
[19:58] <mezquitale> livingdaylight, uninstall and try installing it again, see if it helps any
[19:59] <duffydack> puff mkfs.vfat -F 32
[19:59] <dospod> can anybody help me stream music from windows to my linux machine
[20:00] <mrfroggs> Hi. Trying to ./configure an application, but im getting an error "configure: error: --enable-pthreads specified, but pthreads not found." I have build-essential installed, as well as libc6 and glibc
[20:00] <accol> hey guys im trying to install unr on my netbook but it takes me to a initramfs command prompt....did i do something wrong?
[20:00] <nix-idioteque> how would I go about killing a process in terminal?  I have two things that are frozen and starting to annoy me
[20:00] <fuxxy> dospod, Maybe Windows File Sharing / samba is what you're looking for?
[20:00] <grawity> nix-idioteque: 'kill' if you know the PID, 'pkill' if you know the name.
[20:00] <nix-idioteque> killall File Operations doesn't seem to work
[20:00] <nix-idioteque> Hah
[20:00] <nix-idioteque> Yes, yes
[20:00] <dual> Is there any way I can make the title bar of the windows smaller? The - [] X (minimize, maximize...) are too big. Can I scale them down some way?
[20:01] <jmarsden> mrfroggs: sudo apt-get install libpthread-stubs0-dev     may help.
[20:01] <puff> grawity, duffydack Tanks
[20:01] <mrfroggs> already installed.
[20:01] <mezquitale> nix-idioteque, ps aux|grep PROCESS; killall PROCESS
[20:01] <mobal> hello everybody!
[20:01] <accol> hey guys im trying to install unr on my netbook but it takes me to a initramfs command prompt....did i do something wrong?
[20:01] <jmarsden> nix-idioteque: Determing the PID of the processes concerned, and then kill PID
[20:01] <mobal> accol: netbook remix?
[20:01] <accol> yes
[20:01] <mezquitale> !ask | mobal
[20:02] <mobal> :(
[20:02] <xmnt> jmarsden, htop is a very helpful tool
[20:02] <mezquitale> !offtopic
[20:02] <accol> hah....but yest mobal its the netbook remix
[20:02] <puff> Argh... okay.... so, the reason I want to format the ipod as fat32 is so I can write to it, because it's hfs now.... so of   course mkdosf can't format it because it's not writable.
[20:02] <Cluber> mezquitale: How do i find Synchronization Range - Vertical for http://www.svp.co.uk/electrical/av-home-cinema/samsung-32inch-le32b530-lcd-tv_samsmun-01001.html
[20:02] <nix-idioteque> says no process killed
[20:02] <jmarsden> nix-idioteque: Then you gave kill a pid number that did not exist
[20:03] <xmnt> nix-idioteque, , htop is a very helpful tool for killing processes
[20:03] <nix-idioteque> sudo apt-get install htop
[20:03] <nix-idioteque> woops
[20:03] <moneky> im having trouble with my usb mouse .. after about 2-5 min of use after boot it freezes .. i've read some posts about it and tried adding acpi=force irqpoll to the boot line but doesnt work
[20:04] <mezquitale> Cluber, now youre asking the correct question unfortunately I dont have the answer to that one and after you find the answer youre going to do the same thing I did
[20:04] <mrfroggs> Trying to ./configure an application, but im getting an error "configure: error: --enable-pthreads specified, but pthreads not found." I have build-essential installed, as well as libc6  glibc  libpthread-stubs0 and  libpthread-stubs0-dev
[20:05] <jmarsden> mrfroggs: Can you configure it to use a different threading library instead?
[20:05] <accol> hey guys im trying to install unr on my netbook but it takes me to a initramfs command prompt....did i do something wrong?
[20:05] <mrfroggs> the readme said use --enable-pthreads i wouldnt know what else to substitute it with
[20:06] <papajack> hi
[20:06] <jmarsden> mrfroggs: ./configure --help and read what it says
[20:06] <mezquitale> accol, what version did you try installing???
[20:06] <papajack> Anyone tried booting ubuntu from a usb stick?
[20:06] <accol> 9.04
[20:06] <xmnt> papajack, i keep one around and use it occasionally
[20:06] <sebsebseb> Guest48889: no, but it's possible
[20:06] <jmarsden> !anyone |papajack
[20:06] <mezquitale> Guest48889, yes and it works like a charm
[20:06] <the_beav> anyone here use xfce?  i want the right click on desktop to be the xfce menu...w/o all the ubuntu stuff
[20:06] <sebsebseb> !usb |  Guest48889
[20:07] <k_5673> the_beav, try alt+F1
[20:07] <Guest48889> Ok so I looked in the bios but i've only seen the hdd, floppy devices, cd/dvd
[20:07] <sebsebseb> the_beav: #xubuntu  you can also try
[20:07] <mezquitale> accol, can you try installing 8.04?? seems like your hardware is not supported in jaunty
[20:08] <the_beav> alright anyone know any good links for a boot splash change howto
[20:08] <the_beav> jaunty ^^
[20:08] <puff> hm, how do you find the /dev/whatever for an umounted usb device?
[20:08] <mrfroggs> whats the name of 9.04
[20:08] <eboyjr> puff: It can change each time.
[20:08] <eboyjr> mrfroggs: Jaunty
[20:08] <jmarsden> puff: mount     outputs a list of mounted devices...
[20:09] <sebsebseb> !9.04 |  mrfroggs
[20:09] <detrix> the_beav: ususally I use startup manager
[20:09] <bucky> Guest48889, apt-get install unetbootin   http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:09] <Guest48889> Could that mean the bios doesn't recognize the usb stick?
[20:09] <duffydack> Guest48889, some usb sticks cant boot also
[20:09] <Guest48889> i see
[20:09] <duffydack> Guest48889, or so I read somewhere.  Ive got 2 sandisks.
[20:09] <k_5673> puff, try "ls /dev/sd*
[20:09] <puff> jmarsden: And  unmounted devices/
[20:09] <nix-idioteque> has anyone used gparted to cut down their vista partion with no ill effect?  I want more space for linux and just the basics for windows
[20:09] <the_beav> detrix: thx
[20:09] <Guest48889> I just wanna use it as an alternative to the live cd to test it a few days.
[20:09] <duffydack> Guest48889, how did you make the usb stick?
[20:09] <Guest48889> The cd makes an awful noise and I can't even listen to music properly.
[20:09] <detrix> the_beav: but the splash pic needs to be an .xpm
[20:09] <sebsebseb> !alternate |  Guest48889
[20:09] <xmnt> nix-idioteque, you should be fine ... gparted is an excellent partitioning tool ... although it takes a while
[20:09] <eboyjr> nix-idioteque: I have done that with Windows XP. If you defragment you can help.
[20:09] <mezquitale> the_beav, http://paste.ubuntu.com/269940/
[20:09] <bullbear> hi. i have a problem with sound on p5ql asus mobo. internal chipset VIA VT1708S. i cannot listen to line input channel but can record it ok with mplayer. strange.
[20:10] <ubuntu> vitsta
[20:10] <Jorik1> Hi everyone . I have a problem with sound , Ubuntu 9.04 , it was working fine till today , and today it suddenly stopped . For sure its not a sound card problem
[20:10] <lightpriest> any mythtv users here? is there an option to preview a channel from the channel editor?
[20:10] <sebsebseb> Guest48889: bad CD or CD drive?
[20:10] <the_beav> detrix: do u know the command for that startup manager?  i don't like the typical ubuntu menus, and i removed them =/
[20:10] <jmarsden> puff: You might be able to insert the USB device and grep through your logs for what was done to it when it was detected...?
[20:10] <Guest48889> CD drive
[20:10] <sebsebseb> Guest48889: ##hardware  can probably help regarding that
[20:11] <sunny007> any one knows why I cannot enter sudo password? I try to type and nothing happens in the console. This happens only when i try to enter sudo pw.
[20:11] <aiedail92> hi
[20:11] <detrix> the_beav: do you have it installed. it is not install by default
[20:11] <jmazer> visudo
[20:11] <k_5673> Hey, puff, to see the block devices connected to the computer, try with "ls /dev/sd*"
[20:11] <sebsebseb> sunny007: sudo your password
[20:11] <the_beav> ahhh, detrix...just saw that...thx
[20:11] <jmazer> add youself.
[20:11] <sebsebseb> sunny007: not  sudo pw  your password
[20:11] <k_5673> Gererally, an usb drive must be sdb1
[20:12] <detrix> the_beav: use the synaptic package manager
[20:12] <the_beav> detrix: apt-get worked
[20:12] <sebsebseb> !sudo |  sunny007
[20:12] <fstab> hey.. why i get this error message everytime i do apt-get install
[20:12] <fstab> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[20:12] <sebsebseb> !gksudo |  sunny007
[20:12] <eraggo> sunny007: nothing will not be shown in console; it will work but there is not coming any *'s or chars
[20:12] <ace135> Is there a way to once a day automaticaly copy all files in a directory, to another?
[20:12] <the_beav> detrix: got it, thx.
[20:13] <eboyjr> ace135: With the terminal and cron
[20:13] <detrix> sunny007: press alt-f2 then enter gksudo theapp-you want
[20:13] <sunny007> ok thanks eraggo
[20:13] <k_5673> ace, you can use a cron.daily scrip
[20:13] <eboyjr> !cron
[20:13] <k_5673> t
[20:13] <eboyjr> ace135: See what ubottu just said
[20:13] <ace135> Thanks, I'll look into that!
[20:14] <ManDay> as of recently i keep getting an error ".... does not appear to be a valid theme" when i try to install a GTK 2.0 theme <-- any idea ?
[20:14] <Tetracomm> I don't know where to ask.
[20:14] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Tetracomm
[20:14] <Lights> ace135: rsync or gui for rsync grsync
[20:14] <Tetracomm> I was preparing my question.
[20:14] <sebsebseb> Tetracomm: ok
[20:15] <moneky> any advice on usb mouse freezing .. i tried what he suggested in http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3003669&postcount=32 but no luck
[20:15] <Tetracomm> I want a bot like smarterchild which I can play the word scrambles game with, but smarterchild is gone now. Help?
[20:15] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Tetracomm
[20:15] <Gogge> Uhh, ok Im back and I have a much bigger problem now :S
[20:16] <Gogge> When I try to select the boot order on my machine it wont recognize the Disc drive, which effectively means it wont recognize my recovery disc
[20:17] <k_5673> Googe, the CD drive is master or slave?
[20:17] <k_5673> You can set the HDD to master and the cd drive to cable select
[20:18] <xmnt> Gogge, did you follow advice from #windows ?
[20:19] <owen1> i installed firefox-3.5 and flashplugin-installer from aptitude but can't see flash. any ideas?
[20:20] <erUSUL> owen1: install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:20] <k_5673> owen1, try apt-get install flash-nonfree
[20:20] <mgv1> hi, i disconnected earlier. i'm trying to connect a channel with xchat but can't succeed: irc://irc.servercentral.net:6667/art
[20:20] <owen1> erUSUL: k_5673 instead or in addition to flashplugin-installer?
[20:20] <erUSUL> owen1: instead
[20:21] <owen1> erUSUL: ok
[20:21] <k_5673> instead
[20:21] <eboyjr> mgv1: What seems to be the problem? I can connect to it.
[20:21] <Gogge> wooow Im sorry IRC just mega lagged on me, did someone reply to what i said?
[20:21] <ManDay> My CPU is under a 100% load but in the System Monitor nothing shows up ?!?
[20:22] <ManDay> nothing which has more than a few %
[20:22] <heater> hey i have a question about HTPCs and BluRay if someone has a chance
[20:22] <heater> as well as HDCP compliant hardware
[20:23] <Jorik1> Hello . I have a problem with sound . It was working fine till now , certainly not a sound card problem
[20:23] <the_beav> so in jaunty, usplash themes don't work huh?  man, linux is supposed to be for meticulous customisation imo..this is upsetting
[20:23] <eboyjr> Jorik1: What were some of the things you were doing?
[20:23] <mgv1> can anyone tell me why the purpule handler don't do nothing with irc and channel link?
[20:24] <detrix> the_beav: are  you trying to change the login window themes/
[20:24] <accol> what does it mean when installer hangs on initramfs command?
[20:24] <bigdavejoker> anybody know where I can find this patch all I can find are postings that say how to use it VMwareTools-7.7.5-156745-patch-2_6_29.tar.gz
[20:25] <detrix> the_beav: or just the grub menu backdrop?
[20:25] <racha> how to get alsa menu in terminal ?
[20:25] <erUSUL> alefteris: there is no +q flag
[20:25] <the_beav> detrix: nope...that's gdm, got that taken care of....grub menu, i know how to do that...i want to change the splash that goes during boot
[20:25] <the_beav> which was usplash iirc
[20:25] <owen1> erUSUL: i installed flashplugin-nonfree and still can't see flash.
[20:26] <detrix> the_beav: thats something I have not played with...dont mind the default progress bar splash.
[20:26] <erUSUL> owen1: i know it does not help but "works for me (tm)"
[20:26] <accol> what does it mean when installer hangs on initramfs command?
[20:26] <erUSUL> owen1: does the plugin appears in about:plugin page ?
[20:27] <Jetro> Hello, Can someone point me to the right direction? I just installed ubuntu and Grub does not see Vista... I installed ubuntu on partition 3 of my HD.. vista is on partition 4
[20:27] <erUSUL> accol: something went wrong and the kernel could nor mount the root filesystem
[20:27] <sebsebseb> Jetro: ok the sounds like a bit of an odd set up
[20:27] <sebsebseb> Jetro: also why did you put it in a partition rather than the MBR?
[20:27] <ianian> is ther a lunix mint channel
[20:27] <sebsebseb> !mint | ianian
[20:27] <mezquitale> Jetro, can you boot into vista?
[20:28] <sebsebseb> !mintsupport |  ianian
[20:28] <accol> bah.....should i redownload the file or did i probably screw up in the formatting of the usb drive?
[20:28] <Jetro> The partitions were already there, I just selected it during ubuntu install
[20:28] <erUSUL> accol: sometimes a boot option can help
[20:28] <erUSUL> !boot | accol
[20:28] <sebsebseb> Jetro: ok Grub should always go into the MBR really, unless you have a proper reason to put it on a partition
[20:28] <the_beav> detrix: it completes before all the services are done...like it's fooling me lol....i'll just disable and watch the boot output...thx for ur help
[20:28] <Jetro> grub goes straight into ubuntu.. it does not see vista
[20:28] <Jetro> havent tried changing bios yet
[20:29] <sebsebseb> Jetro: the bios has nothing to do with it I expect
[20:29] <detrix> the_beav: good luck
[20:29] <eboyjr> Jorik1: So first things first. Is your volume turned up? Or is it muted?
[20:29] <xmnt> Jetro, check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:29] <tony__> Jetro: you have to edit your menu.list
[20:29] <the_beav> detrix: already disabled it ;) worked fine...thx again
[20:29] <sebsebseb> Jetro: yes  the bios has nothing to do with it, and I was going to say about menu.lst
[20:29] <Jorik1> eboyjr: Nothing special , just configuring wine . The volume its not muted , i've checked it several times
[20:29] <tony__> Anyone know if you can download Karmic yet and where from?
[20:29] <Jetro> hmm. unfortunately I am a noob xmni
[20:30] <sebsebseb> Jetro: there's also an example entry for adding Windows there, in your case though I guess it's  hd0,2   since Grub starts on 0 for both the hard drive and partition
[20:30] <MisterN> tony__: www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha5
[20:30] <Jetro> is there a step by step guide on how to do it?
[20:30] <tony__> Thanks MisterN
[20:30] <sebsebseb> Jetro: you don't exactly need one, adding Windows is easy usaulley
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Jetro: just edit the example, but it  with the Ubuntu kernel and that, and then it should work
[20:31] <Lights> the_beav: try this link > http://www.flyninja.net/?p=884
[20:31] <eboyjr> Jorik1: We can try first by installing alsa-base.
[20:31] <tony__> Jetro: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst then add in the windows option
[20:31] <sebsebseb> Jetro: and you can even pastebin the menu.lst and people such as myself can check it
[20:31] <TheEvilOne> anybody know what you can do about xulrunner not working with firefox 3.5?  is there another version you need?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |   Jetro
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[20:31] <Jorik1> eboyjr: Sure , i was trying to solve it by myself (using troubleshooting - but still no result)
[20:32] <xmnt> TheEvilOne, ubuntuzilla should help you
[20:32] <the_beav> Lights:  cheers!  that's what i'm looking for!  i'll give it a go..
[20:32] <Jetro> ok, I am going to try this.. thanks for the help
[20:32] <owen1> erUSUL: about:plugin ? there is no such url
[20:33] <bong->   /server eu.undernet.org
[20:33] <erUSUL> owen1: about:plugins
[20:33] <erUSUL> with an s
[20:34] <ManDay> does ubuntu have a tool to remove unrequired packages? like cleanup?
[20:34] <ManDay> in aptitude maybe?
 after clicking on the xchat link ive typed it's worked
[20:34] <eboyjr> Jorik1: If that does not work I would try reconfiguring it. Remember it is also best to restart the computer after running some commands (or at least restarting GNOME)
[20:34] <sebsebseb> ManDay: there is system janitor
[20:34] <owen1> erUSUL: i see Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999  and Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[20:34] <sebsebseb> ManDay: computer janitor even
[20:35] <sebsebseb> ManDay: system > administration > computer janitor    well it will depend on the version if it's there or not
[20:35] <erUSUL> owen1: oops you have two installed ... o.0!
[20:35] <xmnt> ManDay, sudo aptitude autoremove
[20:35] <ManDay> thanks xmnt
[20:35] <owen1> erUSUL: how to remove them and install only onel?
[20:35] <sebsebseb> ManDay: and me?
[20:35] <Gogge> Ok, now Im in big trouble, I really desperately need help... I cannot boot from my disc which means I can use LIVE CD or Vista Recovery disc to fix my busted bootloader, coz right now all I get is GRUB error 17
[20:35] <ManDay> sebsebseb, thanks :-)
[20:35] <eboyjr> mgv1: Okay. So it doesn't work in Firefox? Also, your nick completion doesn't show up with that syntax.
[20:35] <xmnt> sebsebseb, no soup for you
[20:35] <ManDay> sorry
[20:36] <sebsebseb> xmnt: heh I guess
[20:36] <ManDay> How can I change my computer name?
[20:36] <trainer> Hi, I was trying to setup connection sharing with the directions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing  and I screwed up my gateway machine. Now it will connect but I can't even ping anything. Can I reset/undo everything I did to my connection settings?
[20:36] <erUSUL> owen1: purge the packages related to flash and install only one...
[20:36] <detrix> ManDay: just edit /etc/hostname
[20:36] <eboyjr> ManDay: You can run 'hostname <name>' and then edit /etc/hostname
[20:36] <Gogge> my CD/DVD drive works. i could use it when i was in windows, but I cannot see it in the selection list of boot order
[20:36] <Lights> ManDay: be careful with system janitor it lists all packages downloaded from places other then official repos as junk
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Gogge: boot order???
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Gogge: your bios?
[20:37] <mgv1> eboyjr: i dont know how to select a name for adding to a message
[20:37] <mgv1> eboyjr: it does not work in firefox to launch xchat
[20:37] <Gogge> Yeah, when you choose in what order you want your discs and drives to be bootred
[20:37] <owen1> erUSUL: can u elaborate about purging
[20:37] <erUSUL> owen1: sudo aptitude purge packagename
[20:38] <owen1> erUSUL: thanks
[20:38] <erUSUL> owen1: from synaptic you can do it too
[20:38] <sebsebseb> owen1: purge removes the program, but also config files
[20:38] <sebsebseb> owen1: where as remove only does the program
[20:40] <Jorik1> eboyjr: Alsa-base is installed but still the sound is not working (
[20:40] <eboyjr> Jorik1: Okay let's reinstall the drivers. Btw what system are you running? (Model)
[20:40] <mgv1> eboyjr: if you was there why didn't you asked to see the pictures?
[20:41] <Jorik1> eboyjr: ubuntu 9.04
[20:41] <eboyjr> Jorik1: I mean more like the hardware system. For example a Dell Inspiron Gx239
[20:41] <mgv1> ubuntu shmubuntu
[20:41] <Gogge> still no ideas on my problem? my computer is useless if i cant get past busted bootloader
[20:41] <Jorik1> eboyjr: lg e-500 laptop
[20:42] <Jetro>  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:42] <Taulus> Hi, can anyone tell me how to find the hash key on a mac keyboard, i know it is alt 3 in OSX?
[20:42] <ikonia>  /whois Jorik1
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Gogge: what exactly is wrong with the boot loader?
[20:42] <Jetro> I have pasted the contents of  /boot/grub/menu.lst at pastebin
[20:42] <owen1> erUSUL: i did 'sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-installer' and it uninstall this and the flashplugin-nonfree. i open ff and still see both of flash versions in about:plugins
[20:42] <eboyjr> Jorik1: Okay. Go to http://www.alsaproject.org/
[20:42] <Gogge> Im not sure, all I get is GRUB error 17
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Jetro: ok and then you give the link here
[20:43] <mgv1> anyone knows of any art channel with people in it?
[20:43] <Jetro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/269954/
[20:43] <Jorik1> eboyjr: ok
[20:43] <erUSUL> owen1: ok; let me do some findings...
[20:43] <mgv1> maybe forums?
[20:43] <ManDay> Is there some file where my default nif is defined? i got eth0 and ra0 where ra0 is my connected one but all applciations are trying eth0 and therefore fail unless i ifdown it. can i set ra0 for all aplications as default? how is determined which interface is the default?
[20:43] <owen1> erUSUL: maybe i should purge ff?
[20:43] <chris_lenz123> msg/stealth-
[20:43] <Gogge> I had Vista anfd Kubuntu installed earlier but on someones advice I formatted the Kubuntu partition, but Kubuntu had the main loader. So Now all i get is GRUBS error 17
[20:44] <ManDay> i wonder that my wireless nif isnt listed in /etc/network/interfaces?!?!
[20:44] <eboyjr> Jorik1: There should be a downloads section. Download alsa-drivers into a temporary folder of your choice.
[20:44] <erUSUL> owen1: can you paste the output of ┬½ ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins  ┬╗ in pastebin ?
[20:44] <owen1> erUSUL: sure
[20:44] <sebsebseb> Jetro: ok you see the Windows example in there yes?
[20:44] <Jetro> yes, I see it
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Jetro: right you said Windows is on the 3rd partition?
[20:45] <Jetro> windows in partition 4
[20:45] <sebsebseb> Jetro:  at the bottom of the file is your Ubuntu stuff
[20:45] <chris_lenz123> Hey, How can i test how fast my internet is?
[20:46] <owen1> erUSUL: http://pastebin.com/m27a57f2a
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Jetro: under the last one, leave an empty line yep, and copy in the Windows example
[20:46] <eboyjr> chris_lenz123: You can google for a speed tester utility.
[20:46] <chris_lenz123> thanks
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Jetro: remove the comment the #'s
[20:46] <Jetro> cool.. I am going to try that.. thanks sebsebseb
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Jetro: hang on not done yet
[20:47] <owen1> erUSUL: about:plugins shows me libflashplayer.so and libswfdecmozilla.so
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Jetro:  only one hard disk in there I assume?
[20:47] <Gogge> damn.. still no idea... am I doomed?
[20:47] <erUSUL> owen1: sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/libflashplayer.so
[20:47] <sebsebseb> Jetro: if so the number  should be  0,2
[20:47] <owen1> erUSUL: ok
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Jetro: since Grub starts on 0 for both the hard disk and partitions
[20:48] <erUSUL> owen1: then reinstall ┬½flashplugin-nonfree┬╗
[20:48] <sebsebseb> Jetro: (hd0,2)   and save it, and it should work
[20:49] <mgv1> what is the red line?
[20:49] <Lights> Gogge: your problem is that you have uninstalled kubuntu and now xp wont boot?
[20:49] <Gogge> Vista, but yeah thats basically it
[20:49] <erUSUL> owen1: finally chack again with about:plugins (you have to close and restart firefox)
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Gogge: right let's see if I can help you or not now,  can you repeate the whole of your issue?
[20:50] <Gogge> Ok, Im put it simply
[20:50] <Lights> Gogge: do you have more then one hd?
[20:50] <Jetro> ok cool
[20:50] <CrocoJet> where I can find this package "compat-libstdc++-33" for ubuntu 9.04?
[20:51] <eboyjr> !info compat-libstdc++-33
[20:51] <Gogge> I had Vista x64 installed fora  while, but I wanted to try Kubuntu, so I installed kubuntu on a new partition... However there were some problems and I needed to get rid of Kubuntu, a friend told me I should just format the partition. But since at bootup it looked for Kubuntu first now All i get is GRUBS error 17 and no way to get to my Vista partition
[20:51] <King1> Hi, I need some help with my ubuntu Jaunty which won't load anymore, the screen just flickers after I choose jaunty in the menu.
[20:52] <Jetro> sebsebseb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269958/  does this look good?
[20:52] <Gogge> I have ony one HDD in my computer (laptop) however I do havea  spare use it right nowexternal drive somewhere but I cannot
[20:52] <Gogge> dang skiped backwards, lol
[20:52] <sebsebseb> Jetro Gogge: by the way depending on what Windows apps you want to run,  Wine :)  and also Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu if you got enough RAM
[20:53] <Jetro> no, its for my wife... she prefers vista
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Gogge: ok I know what's happpended
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Jetro: oh I see
[20:53] <sebsebseb> Gogge: there's that tiny little bit of Grub left on the MBR   which now can't boot anything up, because  when you removed the partition for Kubuntu   you also removed /boot
[20:54] <Gogge> myeah sound about right
[20:54] <yoyo_> \help
[20:54] <owen1> erUSUL: now i only have Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999 in about:plugins, but i still can't see flash. here is my new /user/lib/mozilla/plupins : http://pastebin.com/m1e46a411
[20:54] <sebsebseb> Gogge: so to sort this out you can for example re install Ubuntu :) and let it put Grub back on :)
[20:54] <steven__> Does Ubuntu 9.04 not come with OO Calc, Base, and Writer?
[20:54] <sebsebseb> Gogge: or  put in a Windows CD/DVD and let it go over the MBR
[20:54] <Lights> Gogge: try this 6th comment > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1141780.html
[20:54] <Jetro> sebsebseb: by the way, i have 4 partitions on the 1 HD
[20:54] <erUSUL> owen1: you should be able... checked more than one site ?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Gogge: repair Windows is the option I think that will do that
[20:55] <accol> this unr install is driving me insane
[20:55] <Gogge> umm... no, but for some strange reason I cannot set my computer to boot from cd/dvd drive
[20:55] <sebsebseb> Gogge: oh
[20:55] <owen1> erUSUL: http://prezi.com/o8y18kpinff6/  and http://www.slideshare.net/category/finance
[20:55] <Gogge> Thats my big problem. If it could boot from disc I could pretty much fix this by myself
[20:55] <sebsebseb> steven__: it comes with most of Open Office
[20:55] <zoldar> hello, I am trying to setup dual display with screen cloning using ibm t41p with sxga+ (1400x1050) and 19" 1280x1024 external lcd display. Dual screen mode works ok after adding mode with xrandr but I can't make it show full desktop on secondary display. I would be ok even with laptop display disabled, however this also fails. Any ideas?
[20:55] <owen1> erUSUL: both using flash, i assume. do u think it's becuse i have flash 9 and not 10?
[20:56] <Lights> Gogge: did you change the hd priority while installing kubuntu?
[20:56] <erUSUL> owen1: and youtube ?
[20:56] <Gogge> But when I go to the place where I choose what to boot from (which order) I cannot see my cd/dvd drive in the list
[20:56] <Gogge> Im not sure, I may have, but I dont really know
[20:57] <Lights> Gogge: if you have more then one hd try changing the sequence in boot
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Jetro: yes
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Jetro: save and try it
[20:57] <erUSUL> owen1: well http://prezi.com/o8y18kpinff6/ does not work well for me either the other one seems to work
[20:57] <arand> owen1: I'm using 64bit alpha flash, and I can use the second, but not the first link.
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Jetro: only thing is
[20:57] <owen1> erUSUL: no issues with youtube. i can access it even without flash.
[20:58] <Gogge> how?
[20:58] <erUSUL> owen1: i have 10.r32
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Jetro: it will probably boot up Ubuntu by default
[20:58] <King1> Hi, I need some help with my ubuntu Jaunty which won't load anymore, the screen just flickers after I choose jaunty in the menu then goes black.
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Jetro: unless that's changed as well hmm
[20:58] <Jetro> sebsebseb, as long as vista loads... I am good
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Jetro: plus  when you install a new kernel, you might have to edit this file again, if you want Vista to boot up as the defualt boot
[20:58] <owen1> arand: thanks, i use macbookpro, but installed ubuntu 32bit
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Jetro: ok save and try it tehn
[20:59] <Jetro> ok cool, thanks again
[20:59] <erUSUL> arand: owen1 i'm in 64 bits too
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Jetro: np
[20:59] <Lights> Gogge: go to bios boot options put first boot device as 2nd hd - usually by highlighting the second hd and pressing + then saving and rebooting
[20:59] <owen1> erUSUL: how do i upgrade to flash 10?
[20:59] <steven__> Does Ubuntu 9.04 not come with OO Calc, Base, and Writer?
[20:59] <erUSUL> owen1: well i dunno some people report success using the deb from the adobe site
[20:59] <erUSUL> steven__: yep
[20:59] <eboyjr> steven__: Yes.
[20:59] <KB1JWQ> steven__: It does here.
[20:59] <Gogge> but what good will that do? the external HDD is pretty much unformated
[21:00] <sebsebseb> steven__: it  does, but it seems to not be coming with  impress
[21:00] <steven__> oops. Sorry! I just scrolled back and saw
[21:00] <steven__> Hmm
[21:00] <steven__> I cannot find Calc on the menu
[21:00] <ace135> Is a program that is designed to run in the cli called something? I'm trying to find a list of such programs, but I'm having trouble finding any
[21:00] <steven__> or base for that matter
[21:00] <King1> Hi, I need some help with my ubuntu Jaunty which won't load anymore, the screen just flickers after I choose jaunty in the menu.
[21:00] <KB1JWQ> steven__: Perhaps it's not installed on that box.
[21:00] <owen1> erUSUL: arand: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/scaling-up-by-scaling-down  can u view this?
[21:00] <owen1> erUSUL: arand: i can't
[21:00] <eboyjr> steven__: Right click and go to edit menu.
[21:00] <steven__> What will Ubuntu 9.10 be coming with in regards to OO?
[21:00] <the_beav> anyone know of a non-compisted dock?
[21:01] <eboyjr> steven__: It depends on what OOo can make. Ubuntu and OOo are separate projects.
[21:01] <the_beav> wbar isn't working for me...
[21:01] <sebsebseb> steven__: like 9.04
[21:01] <eboyjr> teddymills: gnome-panel
[21:01] <Lights> Gogge: err forget it I thought you had two hds (internal) people usually setup grub on the hd with linux on it
[21:01] <Gogge> no no, I have only one internal drive and an external drive
[21:01] <erUSUL> owen1: yep no problems
[21:02] <owen1> erUSUL: ok, i'll try to upgrade to 10. do i have to remove the current one before i do it?
[21:02] <Ryann> How do I use .emerald themes?
[21:02] <moneky> having trouble with usb mouse freezing after 2-5 minutes
[21:02] <steven__> SPM says I have Draw, Calc, Impress, Writer,  and Math
[21:02] <erUSUL> owen1: probably
[21:03] <eboyjr> !emerald | Ryann
[21:03] <gfdgfd> boas, alguem interessado num quarto por 250 euros, ja com tudo incluido (net, despesas, maq lavar roupa, moveis, etc), a 5 minutos do IST na alameda?
[21:03] <guntbert> !es | gfdgfd
[21:03] <Ryann> I know, I wanted to know HOW to USE it..
[21:03] <erUSUL> guntbert: portuguese
[21:04] <xmnt> Ryann, do you have emerald installed
[21:04] <gr8expectations> can someone help me? I recently installed ubuntu 9.04 everything is great except it is not recognising flash drive
[21:04] <Ryann> I'm guessing not.
[21:04] <xmnt> Ryann, if you do it's a simple as adding the theme to emerald
[21:04] <gr8expectations> is there something I need to enable perhaps?
[21:04] <erUSUL> gfdgfd: do not  spam the channel please
[21:04] <puff> Hm, according to this http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/gnupod.html#SEC6, , I should use pc-fdisk to reformat my ipod.  There's no pc-fdisk package in ubuntu.
[21:04] <Ryann> Because the file doesn't know how to open.
[21:04] <gr8expectations> light on flash drive is on but not showing up in computer
[21:04] <eboyjr> Ryann: Open ccsm, and go to window decoration. Change compiz-decorator to emerald
[21:04] <Ryann> ccsm?
[21:05] <Lights> Gogge: if your cd /dvd rom is not functional then I'm afraid there is not much you can do - solution from linux or windows both assume you can access cd/ dvd
[21:05] <Gogge> But my cd/dvd drive does function
[21:05] <Gogge> When I was windows I could use it without any problems
[21:05] <arand> owen1: Yea, that one works...
[21:05] <Gogge> it just doesnt show up in Bio boot list
[21:05] <puff> Does anybody know what makes pc-fdisk special and whether vanilla ubuntu fdisk will do the job?
[21:05] <Lights> Gogge: you just said you can't see the cd rom in boot menu?
[21:05] <guntbert> erUSUL: right you are :-))
[21:06] <jeniffer> hi. does any body know why linux heats a LOT MORE laptop hardware than ominipreset widows????
[21:06] <Gogge> Yes I cannot see it there but the drive itself does function
[21:06] <jeniffer> if i cant fix this terrible problem, i am going back to windows.....unfortunatelly
[21:06] <Taulus> Need to install Adobe flash player, used package "flashplugin-nonfree" on my intel machine but want to install it on a PPC, any ideas?
[21:06] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: Linux doesn't hate lap top hardware,   thing is  not all lap top hardware is supported properly by manufactures,  when it comes to Linux at this time
[21:06] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: their excuse is,  Linux does not have enough market share yet on the desktop
[21:07] <Lights> Gogge: are you sure you are looking at the right place in bios?
[21:07] <jeniffer> sebsebseb even toshiba?
[21:07] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: yep even them
[21:07] <Gogge> pretty sure, yes
[21:07] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: wireless is a common problem issue with a lap top,  you got this?
[21:07] <guntbert> sebsebseb: jeniffer said "heats" not "hates" :-)
[21:07] <sebsebseb> guntbert: oh
[21:07] <King1> hello,
[21:07] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: oh I thought you put hates
[21:08] <jeniffer> mmm wireless network works fine
[21:08] <conner> I am having problems with youtube videos.
[21:08] <ashy> anyone know if logitech webcam c200 will work in ubuntu?
[21:08] <sebsebseb> guntbert: I think she did mean to put hates actsualley
[21:08] <ace135> Anyone know a list of good CLI tools?
[21:08] <jeniffer> sebsebseb but right in the place my left hand rests, it is very hot!
[21:08] <sebsebseb> !details |  jeniffer
[21:08] <Gogge> Is it possibly to install the recovery on my External HDD and choose it ion the boot list?
[21:08] <Flannel> ace135: Tools for what?
[21:09] <ace135> Mostly anything, looking for usefull tools
[21:09] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: heat issues  are usaully  a hardware fault, not software
[21:09] <conner> Can someone help me with my youtube problems?
[21:09] <xmnt> ace135, that means alot of things
[21:09] <ace135> I know!
[21:09] <King1> ubottu. Cogito ergo sum. I am more intelligent than you.
[21:09] <ace135> But just a list of the top 10 or 50 should suffice
[21:10] <King1> lol
[21:10] <OblivionSiege> Hey there everyone, I've got a question. My Pidgin works just peachy, except for the Facebook plugin. In a nutshell, what goes down is that I log in, it displays my buddy list for a fraction of a second, then kicks me off facebook chat, but my AIM and MSN keep logged in. Any dice?
[21:10] <ace135> I can't find anything.. I had one cool app before, it created a real time view over all the network connections. It had a blue background, but I cant remember the name of it
[21:10] <Taulus> conner: have you downloaded the flash plugins?
[21:10] <xmnt> ace135, depends on what you do
[21:10] <Flannel> King1: That flicker sounds like your X is having problems.  After it flickers, does ctrl-alt-f1 get you to a terminal?
[21:10] <jeniffer> sebsebseb this is just a new laptop. I thought it was an hp laptop problem, but now it is happening exactly the same in this new toshiba laptop: it is getting very hot right in the place where my left hand rests to type. am using ubuntu 9.04. That is all i can say...is all I know! :(
[21:10] <ace135> As stated above then
[21:10] <ace135> A real time network analyzer thing
[21:11] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: ok first time I have  heard of such an issue
[21:11] <jeniffer> sebsebseb i understand!
[21:11] <Flannel> ace135: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[21:11] <moneky> im having trouble with usb mouse freezing after 2-5 minutes ive tried what was suggested in http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3003669&postcount=32 but with no luck
[21:11] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: lap tops can get pretty hot at times
[21:11] <Flannel> ace135: Theres a few curses based monitors there
[21:11] <King1> Flannel: I haven't tried that, what could have caused that because I ended my session well and shut down correctly.
[21:11] <mirco_> ciao
[21:12] <Flannel> King1: Did you do updates recently?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: I wonder what they would say about your issue in ##hardware  let's find out?
[21:12] <ace135> Flannel: Thanks!
[21:12] <ace135> That was just the sort of list I'm looking for
[21:12] <steven__> If I want to help Ubuntu out with user-testing...where do I go? Kinda ignorant
[21:12] <jeniffer> sebsebseb you are right,  but i took the time to compare temperature under windows and under linux. The laptop has benn on for about 6 hours running windows, and 30 minutes running ubuntu. Now i am burning my hand
[21:12] <King1> Flannel: No, but I installed that catalyst programme, although i didn't us it
[21:13] <jeniffer> sebsebseb is that an irc channel?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: yes
[21:13] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: ok it could be some weird bug in 9.04 or not
[21:14] <Flannel> jeniffer: generally the advanced power features of some hardware is managed by secret commands.  FOSS tends to be behind the curve on them a little bit (but, depends on the hardware)
[21:14] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: you could also try running a slightly older version such as 8.10, to see if you get the same problem there as well
[21:14] <OblivionSiege> Hey there everyone, I've got a question. My Pidgin works just peachy, except for the Facebook plugin. In a nutshell, what goes down is that I log in, it displays my buddy list for a fraction of a second, then kicks me off facebook chat, but my AIM and MSN keep logged in. Any dice?
[21:14] <jeniffer> sebsebseb all right
[21:14] <jeniffer> i will, then
[21:14] <jeniffer> thanks  a lot!!!
[21:15] <sebsebseb> jeniffer:  unless Flannel can suggest something, he generally knows what he is on about
[21:15] <Flannel> King1: What catalyst program?
[21:15] <Lights> Gogge: still there?
[21:15] <Gogge> yes
[21:15] <sebsebseb> jeniffer: ,but  opensource/freesoftware can't  support all  hardware 100% properly,  because of lack of manufacture support
[21:15] <King1> Flannel: ATI catalyst center or something like that.
[21:16] <Lights> Gogge: in some computers pressing f-12 at boot time prompts if you want to boot from cd / dvd try that
[21:16] <bremby> Hi. How do I link against different shared libraries than against those in /lib/tls/i686/cmov/? I need the hardlinked adresses pointing somewhere else. I didn't have any success with LDFLAGS set to -L/path, nor -rpath=/path, not even LD_RUN_PATH... any ideas?
[21:16] <Flannel> King1: Ah, well... something like that certainly could cause a problem depending on what it did during install.  I don't know what it does (obviously, having not heard about it)
[21:18] <kprav33n> Hello!
[21:18] <kprav33n> I am looking for pointers on how to setup an Ubuntu repository.
[21:18] <eboyjr> My clock on Ubuntu Server is off. How can I update it with a time server?
[21:18] <Lights> Gogge: if that does not work and you cant boot from cd then you'll have to attach the hd (the one where vista was installed) to another win machine and do the recovery from there
[21:18] <Gogge> but, when I boot my computer it says clearly that the button to bio is F2
[21:18] <King1> Flannel: So I should boot again then press ctrl+alt+f1, then what?
[21:18] <kprav33n> I have two .deb packages that I have built and I want to setup an apt repository for these packages.
[21:19] <jeniffer> Flannel i understand.... what you say about FOSS. Do you suggest something?
[21:19] <owen1> erUSUL: everything works. i purged firefox and installed flash10 with .deb. thanks!
[21:19] <kprav33n> I am not looking for using launchpad PPA yet.
[21:19] <Lights> Gogge: the button to bio is f-2 but we are talking about directly booting from cd
[21:19] <jeniffer> i dont want to burn my hand just to be fatefull to linux!
[21:19] <Flannel> King1: ctrl-alt-f1 once it goes black will get you to a terminal so you can fix stuff, but I'm not sure how to go about fixing it.
[21:19] <gamer> hi lights
[21:19] <Gogge> But my computer is a laptop. Its an internet hdd, I cant start taking out stuff out of it :S
[21:19] <Flannel> King1: Try booting to an older kernel, just for kicks, to see what it does
[21:19] <Lights> hi
[21:19] <Gogge> ok, ill go try F12... brb
[21:19] <guntbert> eboyjr: see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[21:19] <Welshy-Rob> hi i need help hacking my router
[21:20] <gamer> what do you mean by computer is a laptop
[21:20] <OblivionSiege> @ Everyone. Can anyone help me with my problem with Pidgin?
[21:20] <eboyjr> guntbert: Thanks a lot for the link
[21:20] <moneky> im having trouble with usb mouse freezing after 2-5 minutes ive tried what was suggested in http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3003669&postcount=32 but with no luck
[21:20] <gamer> how are you
[21:21] <guntbert> eboyjr: no problem - there some other good stuff there too :-))
[21:21] <gamer> light in which contry are you from light
[21:21] <Lights> gamer: fine dont ask for a/s/l :P you aint gonna like the answer -
[21:21] <guntbert> !ot | gamer
[21:22] <gamer> sorry
[21:22] <King1> Flannel how do I do either of those things......is there a wayI can do like a system restore.
[21:23] <Flannel> King1: When you choose Jaunty at that menu, try choosing a different Jaunty (a different number next to it)
[21:23] <ashy> anyone know if logitech webcam c200 will work in ubuntu?
[21:24] <Flannel> King1: You shouldn't need to restore, it's entirey likely you won't even have to remove catalyst, just get it set up so it works.  I just have absolutely no idea how to do that
[21:24] <Gogge> uhh.. it didnt work
[21:24] <trainer> Hi, I was trying to setup connection sharing with the directions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing  and I screwed up my gateway machine. Now it will connect but I can't even ping anything. Can I reset/undo everything I did to my connection settings?
[21:24] <stranger_in> hello........ I upgraded my xubuntu 8.04 desktop environment to common ubuntu gnome desktop environment.... i cant enable 3d acceleration.... my vga is  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M......
[21:24] <jojoman02> can i install the regular ubuntu on the eeepc 1000hd? or do i need to install NBR??
[21:24] <King1> Flannel: okay let me try jaunty safe mode with network and see how that goes.
[21:25] <stranger_in> ashy, do u have the hardware now with u.....?
[21:25] <detrix> iceroot: I now have the nvidia FX5500 installed and up and running.  How do I get the s-video out to work?
[21:25] <ashy> stranger_in: no, looking to buy one
[21:26] <stranger_in> ashy, k...... then test it while buying......
[21:26] <ashy> my current cam won't work as its just some generic crap :P
[21:26] <JuNiOx> Hi, I have an application which needs a lot of CPU resource. Which cluster I can use on linux to configure a load balance between 3 machines?
[21:26] <magikid> trainer: What all did you do on that page?
[21:27] <paboy> hey
[21:27] <guntbert> ashy: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam ?
[21:27] <paboy> can anyone help me
[21:27] <ashy> guntbert: no but thanks I'll take a look
[21:27] <paboy> what
[21:27] <stranger_in> ashy, is it working in windows or other crap os....
[21:27] <eboyjr> !ask | paboy
[21:28] <ashy> stranger_in: it works in windows and kind of works in vbox (with corruption)
[21:28] <ashy> but cheese doesn't work with it
[21:28] <stranger_in> ashy, wat did cheese tell when u opend it....
[21:28] <magikid> trainer: Did you follow everything on that page?
[21:28] <ashy> nothing I just got a test signal
[21:28] <jeniffer> friends how can i get the .config file included used to compile the kernel included in ubuntu 9.04????
[21:29] <stranger_in> ashy, do u tried to modeprob
[21:29] <paboy> how do i get java script to work on my ubuntu i cant watch any videos online on sites like youtube and stuff, and also it wont let me downoad aim, or
[21:29] <ashy> stranger_in: no, how?
[21:29] <stranger_in>  I upgraded my xubuntu 8.04 desktop environment to common ubuntu gnome desktop environment.... i cant enable 3d acceleration.... my vga is  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350
[21:30] <paboy> i have ubuntu 9.04
[21:30] <guntbert> jeniffer: in /boot there is a file config.... for every installed kernel
[21:30] <stranger_in> ashy, pls reply me the lsusb output with the webcam conncted
[21:31] <Taulus> CAn someone help me install flashplyer?
[21:31] <guntbert> !paste | ashy , stranger_in
[21:31] <ashy> stranger_in: Bus 002 Device 013: ID 0f35:faf5
[21:31] <ashy> no name
[21:31] <magikid> paboy: Are you sure it's javascript and not flash?
[21:31] <paboy> i dont know
[21:32] <trainer> magikid, yes all those commands for the gateway, except my interface with internet was eth1
[21:32] <ashy> sorry guntbert
[21:32] <jeniffer> guntbert tanks a lot!
[21:32] <Guest94820> lol
[21:32] <paboy> i just know i cant download anything or watch online videos
[21:32] <Guest94820> flash
[21:32] <magikid> paboy: if it's flash, try this:http://paste.ubuntu.com/269979/
[21:32] <stranger_in> guntbert, can u pls explain a little more....... i am a newbie to irc
[21:33] <guntbert> ashy: no problem - I was afraid you'd paste  a lot of lines
[21:33] <guntbert> jeniffer: glad to help
[21:33] <xavi^> .org
[21:34] <Guest94820> flash would be why
[21:34] <Taulus> magikid I have the same porblem and cannot find those packages in synaptic, how do I install them?
[21:34] <guntbert> stranger_in: if you paste many lines in here it makes the channel even worse readable, so please if there are more than 3 lines use one of the possibilities you could read in the text from ubottu
[21:34] <Lights> Gogge: floppy?
[21:35] <stranger_in> ashy, now try 'sudo modeprob usbserial vendor=0x0f35 product=0xfaf5'
[21:35] <magikid> Taulus: You can download the file from here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[21:36] <Guest94820> my god install flash
[21:36] <Taulus> magikid Thx
[21:36] <stranger_in> guntbert, is ubottu the server?
[21:36] <magikid> Taulus: They have a .deb version
[21:36] <Gogge> no floppy
[21:36] <guntbert> !bot | stranger_in
[21:36] <Guest94820> flash
[21:36] <Taulus> Will it work on my Ubuntu for PPC, I am using a mac laptop?
[21:36] <Guest94820> agin installa dobe flash via the network
[21:36] <stranger_in> guntbert, thanks
[21:37] <Guest94820> use flash dude not gonna say it again
[21:37] <gouki_> ola pessoal
[21:37] <stranger_in> guntbert, can u pls help me in configring my 3d accleraon
[21:37] <Lights> Gogge: if you are familiar with windows environment install xp/ vista on external hd through another pc
[21:37] <Guest94820> also if your not into flash try sudo apt-get restricted extras
[21:37] <ashy> no change stranger_in still get the test signal
[21:37] <MrSchmo> hey, does linux leave left-over program files when you unintstall a application like window?
[21:37] <Guest94820> install win 32 video
[21:38] <stranger_in> guntbert,  my vga is  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M
[21:38] <magikid> trainer: I'm still working on all the commands you'll need to undo it
[21:38] <Gogge> I have to install the whole OS? Cant I just install the recovery on the external HDD?
[21:38] <musikgoat> MrSchmo: the two things that may be left are user configurations, and the install packages
[21:38] <stranger_in> ashy, then i am sorry........
[21:38] <magikid> Taulus: I'm not sure
[21:38] <tehlulz> hi
[21:38] <tehlulz> hi
[21:38] <ashy> stranger_in: thanks anyway
[21:38] <Taulus> magikid thanks.
[21:39] <Spreadsheet> If someone has a web server, they keep all their files in /var/www. What is the directory for ftp?
[21:39] <guntbert> stranger_in: no problem - but sorry - graphics and 3D are way out of my field, but you know that "older" ATI cards are not supported from the closed source driver any more
[21:39] <trainer> magikid can I just dpkg-reconfigure comething?
[21:39] <Spreadsheet> Is it ftpd specific?
[21:39] <Flannel> tehlulz: Please don't
[21:39] <Myrtti> tehlulz: behave
[21:39] <tehlulz> i didnt said anything.
[21:39] <hosoka> hello
[21:39] <tehlulz> FUCK UBUNTU YOU DID THE WTC GAY NIGGERS
[21:39] <stranger_in> guntbert, k..
[21:40] <Welshy-Rob> hi i need to bypass this "http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wuimgt.html#accesscontrol"
[21:40] <MrSchmo> musikgoat: does linux automatically remove install packages over time or you have to manually remove it yourself?
[21:40] <magikid> trainer: Don't think so since you added some iptables rules
[21:40] <hosoka> testing 9.10 currently and the sound disappeared.
[21:40] <Spreadsheet> can anyone help me?
[21:40] <Guest94820> aww ppl don't listen try flash or sudo apt-get install restricted extras
[21:40] <Guest94820>  ubuntu is awseosme i use with no issues
[21:40] <hosoka> anyway to have this sound coming back ?
[21:41] <madberry> !karmic | hosoka
[21:41] <jojoman02> anyone here using vanilla ubuntu on eeepc?
[21:41] <musikgoat> MrSchmo: i don't believe there is any auto cleaning,  you can clean up the cached packages with apt-get clean
[21:41] <hosoka> ok thanks ubottu
[21:41] <Guest94820> using gnome version on  dell twoer
[21:41] <ashy> jojoman02: I had it on a eeepc 900 a while back
[21:41] <Guest94820> ubuntu ha sthat
[21:41] <racha>  I cant get  Low Frequency Emmiter to work on PulseAudio ... on my 5.1 :S  anyone can help me with that ?
[21:41] <Guest94820> ubuntu 9.04 has jaintor app
[21:41] <jojoman02> ashy: any problems with it?
[21:42] <Flannel> musikgoat, MrSchmo: you can set up an expiry on your package cache, yes.
[21:42] <Lights> Gogge: it depends if you can boot from an external hd - does it show up in boot devices in bios
[21:42] <jojoman02> ashy: getting is setup i mean?
[21:42] <ashy> jojoman02: hmm don't think I could get cam working
[21:42] <jojoman02> ashy: real Q is does it work out of box?
[21:42] <matthew1> hi, I have a tar.gz package on my desktop, how do I install it?
[21:42] <jojoman02> ashy: ok, thanks
[21:42] <racha>  I cant get  Low Frequency Emmiter to work on PulseAudio ... on my 5.1 :S  anyone can help me with that ?
[21:42] <musikgoat> MrSchmo: also, if you want to remove all reminants of a package, including your user config files, you can use the command apt-get purge instead of apt-get remove <packagename>
[21:42] <arellanos> CAN YOU HELP ME??????????
[21:43] <Gogge> well im formatting the external hdd right now to find out, but the formatting is gonna take quite some time
[21:43] <guntbert> !shout | arellanos
[21:43] <ashy> jojoman02: theres a page somewhere for getting most stuff working
[21:43] <arellanos> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SOUND IN MY COMPUTER
[21:43] <Myrtti> arellanos: caps lock key, use it
[21:43] <jojoman02> ashy: if you could find it, i've been looking...
[21:43] <Myrtti> arellanos: you seem to have it stuck
[21:43] <ashy> jojoman02: I'll check...
[21:43] <jojoman02> ashy: thanks a bunc
[21:44] <kinasbg> i have too i just can controlle the sound whit the app of sound in avant windows navigator
[21:44] <kinasbg> is that normal??
[21:44] <detrix> I have an nvidia FX5500, How do I set it up for S-video out, I am reading the ubuntu docs about it, my tv out is not showing up in the nvidia-settings utility.  argh
[21:44] <magikid> trainer: edit /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and change it to 0
[21:44] <MrSchmo> musikgoat: ill try that. thanks
[21:44] <magikid> trainer: next edit /etc/sysctl.conf and delete the two lines you added
[21:45] <bastid_raZor> detrix: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:45] <ashy> jojoman02: not the one I was using but still looks ok: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[21:45] <detrix> bassliner: 9.04
[21:45] <jojoman02> ashy: thanks
[21:45] <detrix> bastid_raZor: 9.04
[21:45] <musikgoat> MrSchmo: so as Flannel indicated I was wrong about the auto clean, it looks like those are configurable options in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive   maybe there is a graphical way to change those, i don't know
[21:46] <Ignaz> huhu
[21:46] <musca> jaja
[21:46] <musikgoat> MrSchmo: the default is max size 500 (megs i believe), max age 30 (days, i believe), and min age 2.
[21:47] <ashy> jojoman02: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly not sure how much works now in 9.04
[21:47] <magikid> trainer: next, could you put your run 'sudo iptables --list FORWARD and put it in a pastebin
[21:48] <Elladan> Hi...  Using a 9.04 alt cd, my laptop screen now flickers and goes black right after kernel boot.
[21:48] <trainer> magikid ok hang on
[21:48] <bastid_raZor> detrix: i Svideo working on the 5500 card but had to add lines to xorg.conf to make it work.
[21:48] <magikid> trainer: nevermind on that last bit
[21:48] <magikid> run these commands http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269983/
[21:48] <Elladan> I assume it's trying to use framebuffer mode...  is there some mechanism to get an alt cd to stay in full text mode?
[21:49] <detrix> bastid_raZor: I was wondering.  it seems that I need xinerama.  not sure of the exact settings
[21:49] <bastid_raZor> detrix: but i'm using 8.04 on that box.. i could pastebin my xorg.conf for you to take a look at.
[21:50] <detrix> bastid_raZor: that would be very nice
[21:50] <Killerkid> I am trying to GTK and getting this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269984/
[21:50] <bastid_raZor> detrix:  http://pastebin.com/f6f82b6c8
[21:50] <Killerkid> trying to compile*
[21:50] <trainer> magikid how do I set ip_forward to 0?
[21:50] <bastid_raZor> detrix: and yes i use xinerama too in that xorg.conf
[21:51] <magikid> trainer: run
[21:51] <magikid> trainer: 'sudo nano /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward'
[21:52] <magikid> trainer: then just change it to 0 and hit ctrl-O then ctrl-X
[21:52] <trainer> magikid ok done
[21:52] <Gladiak> hi :D
[21:52] <trainer> magikid can I set eth1 back to dhcp?
[21:53] <Gladiak> anyone on dell ?
[21:53] <magikid> trainer: try just restarting networking with 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[21:54] <Gladiak> i've a problem related to suspend to ram :/
[21:54] <Gladiak> ati hd 4570 :(
[21:55] <trainer> magikid ok it said 'ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1'
[21:55] <enrico_> !list
[21:56] <evilGUI> Gladiak: I have a issue when I go to wake my monitor from sleep I find the machine hard locked.
[21:56] <evilGUI> Gladiak: I fixed it by turning desktop effects off.
[21:56] <evilGUI> my card Radeon 4850
[21:57] <magikid> trainer: did you install dnsmasq too? could you run cat /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin it?
[21:58] <Gladiak> damn
[21:58] <Gladiak> evil: what drivers are you using ?
[21:58] <Gladiak> ubuntu repos ?
[21:59] <yassin_> hello
[21:59] <bastid_raZor> magikid: pastebinit is a good application for pastebin'ing entire files.
[21:59] <cmdbbq> my school uses a pptp vpn to regulate access to their wireless network, i can connect to the wireless network and the vpn, but i am unable to pass traffic through the network, how do i ensure all traffic is passed through the vpn connection?
[21:59] <sunny007> I'm having problems with installing a driver for WIMAX adapter
[22:00] <yassin_> actually i need burn program like nero or iso
[22:00] <bastid_raZor> yassin_: brasero or k3b
[22:00] <cmdbbq> yassin k3b or brasero
[22:00] <sunny007> When I try to run the binary it gives error : cannot find/ open device
[22:00] <cmdbbq> or gnome-baker
[22:00] <sunny007> any help?
[22:00] <magikid> bastid_raZor: neat app
[22:01]  * SeaPhor likes Gnome-Baker
[22:01] <madberry> bastid_raZor: cool didn't know about pastebinit.  Now I do thanks.
[22:01] <Gladiak> gnomebaker or brasero
[22:01] <bastid_raZor> magikid: yes and very useful.
[22:01] <Gladiak> k3b is too much for the gnome
[22:01] <bastid_raZor> madberry: no problem
[22:02] <trainer> magikid, yes I have dnsmasq.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m457509f7
[22:02] <sunny007> When I try to run the binary to install driver it gives error : cannot find/ open device.
[22:03] <duffydack> k3b personally.  it eats brasero for breakfast.
[22:03] <H8sMikeMoore> k3b is amazing
[22:03] <paboy> ok so this is my first day using ubuntu and i dont know what to do. i cant download anything like aim, or yahoo messenger it wont let me. also i cant watch videos on you tube, or anything like that , HELP!!!!
[22:03] <Gladiak> k3b install also KDE :┬░D
[22:03] <duffydack> gnomebaker is better than brasero, but too slow when adding a few thousand files.
[22:03] <xmnt> k3b is awesome but I've had it screw some cd's whereas brasero burns them fine
[22:03] <musikgoat> !flash | paboy
[22:04] <paboy> how do i get it
[22:04] <cmdbbq> paboy: pidgin is your IM client and it will connect to all those messangers
[22:04] <Gnea> sunny007: what wimax driver?
[22:04] <duffydack> xmnt, just the opposite...  brasero cant burn if its life depended on it, k3b not done me wrong yet
[22:04] <musikgoat> paboy: in a terminal, type sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:04] <Gnea> paboy: pidgin is basically an all-in-one IM client
[22:04] <iceroot> paboy: for msn, yahoo, icq and so on use pidgin
[22:04] <xmnt> duffydack, just speaking from exp.  maybe it's my cd's and this has only happened on  afew occasions ... I would much rather use k3b
[22:04] <paboy> whats a terminal
[22:04] <duffydack> there are a lot of kde apps that wipe the floor with gnome apps, its sad... as I use/prefer gnome
[22:05] <Gnea> paboy: it's a commandline window - click on Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[22:05] <xmnt> paboy, ever been to the airport
[22:05] <TeamColtra> Hey I am looking at getting a touch-sceen notebook and I was wondering if Ubuntu fully supports touchscreens yet?
[22:05] <Gnea> xmnt: ...
[22:05] <musikgoat> paboy: Application -> accessories -> terminal
[22:05] <musikgoat> paboy: its like cmd in windows
[22:06] <magikid> trainer: add this to your /etc/network/interfaces file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269991/
[22:06] <duffydack> xmnt, whatever works for you
[22:06] <cmdbbq> paboy: if you access add/remove programs and search for ubuntu restricted extras it will install flash, java, and some restricted codecs
[22:06] <xmnt> anyone know if empathy will have more options in 9.10 release?  Seems sort-of barebones right now
[22:06] <duffydack> xmnt, ive tried gnomebaker, k3b, shell tools and imgburn in wine, all work 100%.. brasero doesnt.
[22:06] <sunny007> GNEA : madWimax-0.0.2
[22:06] <Gnea> xmnt: #ubuntu+1 could probably answer that better
[22:06] <duffydack> 4 different writers.
[22:07] <paboy> ok i got flash now
[22:07] <paboy>  thank you
[22:07] <magikid> trainer:then try restarting networking with 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' again
[22:07] <xmnt> duffydack, good for you ... i'm just saying what my exp. has been
[22:07] <Gnea> sunny007: I don't see that in the repositories
[22:07] <sunny007> http://ciscovod.blogspot.com/2008/12/yota-ubuntu-804.html
[22:07] <duffydack> xmnt, yes I know, which is why I said, whatever works...
[22:07] <matt132> i cd'd to the directory and tried to 'make' but I got "no targets specified and no makefile found."
[22:07] <enrico_> ! get list
[22:07] <Gnea> sunny007: are you using ubuntu 8.04?
[22:07] <ashy> is there an easy way to reset a hardware device? my nic seems to stall sometimes and I have to reboot to get it working again
[22:08] <enrico_> !comand
[22:08] <sunny007> I followed the instructions and compiled it. but when I run the binary it gives device cannot be found / opened
[22:08] <Gnea> sunny007: okay, that doesn't answer my question.
[22:08] <tswicegood> How can I check to see what options were used in ./configure for a .deb package?
[22:08] <TeamColtra> !commands | Eneloop
[22:08] <sunny007> ubuntu 9.04
[22:08] <TeamColtra> whoops
[22:08] <worm> hello i got a problem with UFW...i installed and configured it (i've set default rules) and i cannot use SSH anymore... Any idea ? :s
[22:08] <Gnea> sunny007: okay, those instructions are for 8.04, so obviously, it's probably not going to work for 9.04
[22:08] <worm> (tried to reboot the server, no effect)
[22:09] <Gnea> sunny007: plus, that's third-party software, which we don't support here
[22:09] <Gnea> sunny007: but, maye we can get it to work anyway
[22:09] <magikid> worm: this may seem obvious but have you opened port 22 or whatever port you use?
[22:09] <duffydack> worm, port 22 probably.
[22:09] <sunny007> that'd be awesome. It is the only way for me to get on the internet.
[22:09] <trainer> magikid, done, still can connect but not resolve anything
[22:10] <trainer> magikid it's wireless btw
[22:10] <worm> duffydack, magikid, i didn't check if port 22 was opened before logging out from my current ssh session...Now i'm trying to log in and it doesn't work
[22:10] <paboy> is there anyway to download aim to the computer without using pidgin... i want to download aim, yahoo messenger, and limewire
[22:11] <duffydack> worm,  oops..
[22:11] <worm> no error message, nothing : ssh root@xx.xxx.xxx.xx           ..
[22:11] <musikgoat> paboy: why?
[22:11] <paboy> because
[22:11] <Welshy-Rob> hui any1 know anything about secutity?
[22:12] <cmdbbq> paboy: none of those messenger programs will run so far as i know pidgin is a unified program for all IM networks
[22:12] <xmnt> Welshy-Rob, like what?
[22:12] <musikgoat> paboy: windows executables don't easily work on linux,  you can try to get them to run in !wine but why try to make something work when pidgin works just fine
[22:12] <paboy> you cant get into chat rooms and stuff can you ?
[22:12] <TeamColtra> Hey I am looking at getting a touch-sceen notebook and I was wondering if Ubuntu fully supports touchscreens yet?
[22:12] <Welshy-Rob> admin control on router
[22:12] <Gnea> sunny007: ok did you download 0.0.2 or 0.1.1?
[22:12] <paboy> and what about limewire
[22:12] <cmdbbq> as far as limewire, i wouldn't recomend downloading of gnutella
[22:13] <paboy> whats that
[22:13] <cmdbbq> *off of gnutella
[22:13] <worm> duffydack, no solution ? I must contact ovh so ?
[22:13] <cmdbbq> the sharing network limewire connects to
[22:13] <paboy> oh why is that
[22:13] <Welshy-Rob> xmnt, admin control on router
[22:13] <sunny007> 0.0.2
[22:13] <cmdbbq> it is disreputable, usually illegal and outdated
[22:14] <magikid> trainer: try this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/269996/
[22:14] <paboy> oh....
[22:14] <Gnea> sunny007: it's old, the latest is here: http://code.google.com/p/madwimax/
[22:14] <cmdbbq> if the second doesn't bother you im me
[22:14] <Welshy-Rob> well i need to get around this "http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wuimgt.html#accesscontrol"
[22:14] <xmnt> Welshy-Rob, wireless?
[22:14] <Welshy-Rob> xmnt, no wired dynamic ip
[22:14] <Welshy-Rob> xmnt, well i need to get around this "http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_wuimgt.html#accesscontrol"
[22:15] <musikgoat> paboy: one of the things to think about with ubuntu and linux in general is that there is usually other software to do what you want to do,  try to get out of the windows mindset :)
[22:15] <mikeg3> If I want to install Ubuntu on an Intel Core 2 Duo Macbook Pro, which version of Ubuntu runs on it?
[22:15] <Gnea> !macbook | mikeg3
[22:16] <xmnt> Core2 support x64, but if you don't know what the difference is install i386/i686
[22:16] <Flannel> mikeg3: How much RAM do you have?
[22:16] <paboy> yeah i have to . are there chat rooms
[22:17] <xmnt> i don't know anything about draytek routers ... never used one, but that pic is hilarious
[22:17] <duffydack> worm, I cant think of a solution to be honest.
[22:17] <MrSchmo> anyone know of a good site to get plugins for xchat?
[22:17] <duffydack> worm, any other services running on it you could use?
[22:18] <mikeg3> I have 2gb ram, Santa Rosa mid-2007 chipset
[22:18] <trainer> magikid, still no luck
[22:18] <Welshy-Rob> xmnt, yh ok well thnks :@ its verry anoying my dads done that to our router so i cant get in anymore nd fuck about with it ty aw =)
[22:18] <paboy> is there any good video editing software on here simalar to windows movie maker or better even
[22:18] <duffydack> paboy, kdenlive
[22:18] <xmnt> Welshy-Rob, here's a good idea move out of your parents basement :)
[22:18] <paboy> how do i get it
[22:18] <mezquitale> paboy, try cinelerra though you might want to compile it yourself if it crashes
[22:18] <magikid> trainer: I'm out of ideas, sorry
[22:19] <duffydack> paboy, same way you do any other.
[22:19] <sci3ntist> Hello
[22:19] <worm> duffydack, yep : apache, mysql
[22:19] <sci3ntist> I have a question about Apache modules
[22:19] <paboy> uhhh is it in the ubuntu or do i have to look it up
[22:19] <trainer> magikid ok I'm gonna reinstall thanks anyway
[22:19] <worm> duffydack, port 80 seems to be denied too .... -_-
[22:19] <duffydack> worm, oh dear
[22:20] <surgy> can someone help me solve my problem? here is a paste from terminal : http://pastebin.com/m6475dc79
[22:20] <icarus> dose anybody know why  azurus  keeps geting stuck in this weard update cycles?
[22:20] <surgy> !drkonqi
[22:20] <Welshy-Rob> xmnt, i wud  buh we dont have a basement lmao
[22:20] <xmnt> worm, do you have iptables running?
[22:20] <sci3ntist> is there any apache module can track frequest requests and block the ip where they come from
[22:20] <sci3ntist> ?
[22:20] <magikid> worm: do you have physical access to the machine or is it a VPS somewhere?
[22:20] <magikid> trainer: good luck
[22:20] <worm> magikid, VPS
[22:20] <icekin> Is there a support channel for crunchbang linux?
[22:20] <surgy> anyone have any ideas?
[22:20] <worm> xmnt, i think; yes
[22:21] <xmnt> worm, pastebin the output from iptables -L
[22:21] <xmnt> worm, sudo if your not root
[22:21] <worm> xmnt, i can't connect to ssh
[22:21] <xmnt> worm, is this a remote server?
[22:21] <worm> yes it is /:
[22:21] <paboy> anyone know of free video editing software that is decent
[22:21] <paboy> that you can use in ubuntu
[22:21] <xmnt> worm, thru your hosting provider?
[22:22] <xmnt> worm, or just a server you've setup somewhere?
[22:22] <Gnea> paboy: avidemux, pitivi, kino, cinellara
[22:22] <worm> xmnt, ovh is my provider
[22:22] <paboy> how do i download one and which one is the best'
[22:22] <Gnea> !best | paboy
[22:23] <Gnea> paboy: you can use synaptic to search for and sift through all of the available software:  System->Administration->Synaptic
[22:23] <duffydack> paboy, personally, for me.  sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[22:23] <icarus> why is it that evert time that i use azurus it gets stuck in thes strang update cycles?
[22:23] <icarus> >strange
[22:24] <musikgoat> duffydack: but how is that on gnome, keep in mind hes running that
[22:24] <Taulus> Anyone here using PowerPC?
[22:24] <Gnea> !anyone | Taulus
[22:24] <xmnt> worm, unless they offer a browser based console you will have to contact them and either have them fix it or get you some sort of access for it
[22:24] <duffydack> musikgoat, doesnt stop him using it
[22:24] <magikid> worm: I'd suggest getting in contact with their support and explaining it to them.  they should be able to fix it.
[22:24] <surgy> can anyone help me?
[22:24] <Gnea> !helpme | surgy
[22:24] <xmnt> worm, sounds like your iptables are blocking it, so most providers would just clear your iptables for you
[22:25] <musikgoat> duffydack: i didn't say it did, I asked if it has trouble
[22:25] <Gnea> xmnt: they would?
[22:25] <surgy> ok....
[22:25] <worm> yep there is a browser managing panel but it doesn't allow to do this kind of action..gonna call them i think
[22:25] <xmnt> worm, yeah it's a simple command ... iptables -F
[22:25] <Taulus> He he! I need help installing the package for Flash Player on ubuntu for PowerPC.
[22:25] <sunny007> Gnea I downloaded the 0.1.1 and tried to follow the instructions but its not compiling for some reason. Imma go read the documentations and give it another try.
[22:26] <Gnea> !flash | Taulus
[22:26] <xmnt> worm, are you using this as a web server?
[22:26] <Gnea> sunny007: okay
[22:26] <worm> xmnt, yes
[22:26] <duffydack> musikgoat, not to my knowledge.
[22:26] <duffydack> musikgoat, I dont know of any that do
[22:26] <Taulus> Thx ubottu
[22:27] <Gnea> sunny007: sometimes I get errors during ./configure so i search for and install what it's missing, like this:  apt-cache search libusb
[22:27] <Gnea> sunny007: then install the -dev package
[22:27] <xmnt> xmnt, i'll probably get some flack for this in here but ubuntu isn't the greatest distro for a server
[22:27] <magikid> taulus: There is no adobe flash version for ppc.  I'd try Gnash or swfdec
[22:27] <xmnt> worm ->, i'll probably get some flack for this in here but ubuntu isn't the greatest distro for a server
[22:27] <Gnea> xmnt: it's just fine for a server, unless you don't know how to run a server
[22:27] <worm> xmnt, i'm using debian actually
[22:28] <surgy> ok nevermind
[22:28] <surgy> byer
[22:28] <xmnt> worm,  told ya ... I 3> BSD
[22:28] <xmnt> haha <3
[22:29] <Gnea> xmnt: I'm sure the BSD folks would appreciate it if you didn't downplay other distributions like that.
[22:29] <xmnt> Gnea, you serious ??? I didn't downplay anyone ... ubuntu is awesome ... for certain things
[22:29] <migg137> i neeed help making my ubuntu partition larger... i opened partition editor... but now what
[22:29] <paboy> i still down understand
[22:30] <duffydack> I admin a forum, I tried to import the mysql db to an ubuntu server I setup locally, it wouldnt without errors..  I setup a free account with profuse and did it just fine.
[22:30] <Gnea> xmnt: you just said that you thought that BSD is better for servers
[22:30] <H8sMikeMoore> Gnea - how is that down playing ubuntu
[22:30] <H8sMikeMoore> Ubuntu has its strengths, and so does BSD
[22:30] <xmnt> Gnea, no i said i <3 bsd ... big difference
[22:30] <Gnea> H8sMikeMoore: because he's doing it here, not in an offtopic channel where such chatter belongs, such as #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:30] <worm> xmnt, in which ways bsd is better for a server ?
[22:30] <worm> concrete examples :)
[22:31] <Myrtti> oy, fellows, please keep offtopic to elsewhere
[22:31] <Gnea> H8sMikeMoore: I'm not disputing that, BSD is pretty cool
[22:31] <duffydack> Im not sure if there was something on the ubuntu end I could have done, apart from setting a larger memory_limit which I did.. but still failed.  nevermind.
[22:31] <paboy> are the video editors on my ubuntu or do i have to look them up
[22:31] <bertha_> quebec
[22:31] <Myrtti> this is Ubuntu support, not discussing the merits of linux vs. bsd
[22:31] <Myrtti> or vice versa
[22:31] <mezquitale> !offtopic
[22:31] <xmnt> b4 this turns into a flame war about which distro is better see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261644
[22:31] <wily> any one know a way to increase the battery life of laptops?
[22:31] <duffydack> wily, turn it off
[22:32] <mezquitale> !offtopic | xmnt
[22:32] <musikgoat> wily: reduce power consumption
[22:32] <duffydack> wily, power management in system menu.
[22:32] <xmnt> mezquitale, not off topic because it was a topic ... did you read?
[22:32] <wily> yeah besides that though?
[22:32] <Gnea> xmnt: that's really unnecessary.
[22:33] <duffydack> wily, turn off stuff like wifi, dim the screen, dont plug in any usb devices
[22:33] <Gnea> xmnt: the subject matter of the post is offtopic, therefore, it's offtopic. at this point, if I were you, I'd just stop talking about it altogether and concentrate only on ubuntu, or just leave.
[22:33] <xmnt> !offtopic | Gnea
[22:33] <sci3ntist> Guys
[22:33] <musikgoat> wily: also turn off bluetooth if you have it
[22:33] <WebcamWonder> What is the cli app that shows you the keycode when you press a key?
[22:33] <hatake_kakashi> WebcamWonder, xev ?
[22:34] <Myrtti> wily: try powertop
[22:34] <sci3ntist> a Question about apache modules
[22:34] <wily> yeah i dled blueman to turn off bluetooth but was just wondering if there was anything outside of the basics.. oo powertop i'll check that out
[22:34] <Gnea> sci3ntist: ask away
[22:34] <sci3ntist> is there any apache module to block an ip when frequent request come from that ip
[22:34] <sci3ntist> ?
[22:34] <WebcamWonder> hatake_kakashi: Looks too verbose... I just want to see the keycode being passed by the kernel
[22:35] <Gnea> sci3ntist: not that I know of... tried asking in #apache?
[22:35] <jophish> How well does ubuntu play with raid controllers? I am planning to build a small home server using a D945GCLF board. I am hoping to run raid 5 with 4 1TB hdds, however the board only has 2 sata ports. how would I go about doing this?
[22:35] <wily> ty lesswatts is a cool site
[22:35] <hatake_kakashi> WebcamWonder, ahh that I wouldn't know.. I was only guessing *shrugs*
[22:35] <xmnt> sci3ntist, iptables
[22:35] <Gnea> iptables is not an apache module.
[22:36] <xmnt> sci3ntist, that's not an apache module and there are none that do that that I know of ... but iptables will skip to the root of your problem
[22:36] <duffydack> sci3ntist, there is some kind of host trigger module but I cant think of it, best go ask in #apache
[22:36] <teratorn> can anyone recommend a SATA RAID controller? or a motherboard that has a good one built-on.. needs to work in linux OSS drivers preferred...
[22:36] <Gnea> sci3ntist: if I understand you correctly, you don't want to block hosts outright, but wait for them to perform a series of patterns before doing so?
[22:37] <sci3ntist> Since I have an attack
[22:37] <sci3ntist> i need to block specific IPs
[22:37] <sci3ntist> i can do it using Deny from
[22:37] <norstrom> Q: When I'm doing drive operations (large mv, cp, unrar ect.) Its as if the drive operation takes over the machine and other programs have to wait (even firefox), although the cpu usage will be minimal. Is there a way to fix/change this behaviour?
[22:37] <sci3ntist> but this is not practical somehow
[22:38] <Gnea> !info psad
[22:38] <matthew1> can somebody help me with this error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[22:38] <libtech> matthew1: you need a make file
[22:38] <Gnea> matthew1: you have no makefile.
[22:38] <biovore> matthew1: sounds like you don't have a make file
[22:38] <Howard> teratorn:  I'm running on an Asus M4A78T-E with SATA raid
[22:39] <xmnt> matthew1, did you run ./configure && make && make install
[22:39] <teratorn> Howard: thanks
[22:39] <datta> this just happened to me, that i went to new york times and my browser redirected to a virus site giving me pop-ups and stuffs
[22:40] <datta> can this be because of ubuntu or what
[22:40] <xmnt> datta, which page?
[22:40] <matthew1> the instructions I'm following just said to type ./configure then hit enter then make and then hit enter, libtech, gnea,biovore,xmnt
[22:40] <datta> xmnt: the front page
[22:40] <Gnea> matthew1: what software are you trying tocompile?
[22:40] <DigitalKiwi> whatever you do don't install them with wine
[22:40] <xmnt> matthew1, sounds like your configure didn't finish correctly
[22:40] <DigitalKiwi> though if you do make sure to post about it on the forums
[22:40] <datta> is ubuntu really capable to take the drive by download viruses?
[22:40] <matthew1> gnea, bmpx
[22:40] <datta> cause i didn't even think this was possible
[22:40]  * DigitalKiwi lalwed hard http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[22:40] <andcor> matthew1: did you look at the output of configure. If it had made an error you will not be able to run make
[22:41] <twright> datta, a lot of router have been hacked recently - you might want to check for that
[22:41] <matthew1> oops, andcore: error: X11 headers/libraries were not found
[22:41] <norstrom> anyone know why when I'm doing drive operations (large mv, cp, unrar ect.) Its as if the drive operation takes over the machine and other programs have to wait (even firefox), although the cpu usage will be minimal. Is there a way to fix/change this behaviour?
[22:42] <sunny007> Gnea: I tried everything and I think I'm just too stupid to make it work
[22:42] <xmnt> datta, didn't redirect for me ... if their site has been compromised it's possible ... are you running an adblocker?
[22:42] <andcor> matthew1: ok, just a second I will find the packages you should install
[22:42] <Gnea> sunny007: I don't know about that... where are you stuck at?
[22:42] <xmnt> datta, if I don't have adblock plus in FF .. tpb redirects every page because of the ads that are displayed
[22:42] <abhifx> hi there! there is a file whose owner is set to root. i am unable to change its ownership. plz help
[22:42] <duffydack> norstrom, thats the scheduler
[22:43] <sunny007> compiling it. Error: asciidoc not found
[22:43] <duffydack> norstrom, Ive tried myself but its still something that happens.
[22:43] <xmnt> abhifx, you need to be root ... su or sudo
[22:43] <norstrom> duffydack: does it have options I can change? also do you know its name?
[22:43] <derxx> hello
[22:43] <Gnea> sunny007: ok, so run this:  apt-cache search asciidoc   and see if it exists. if it does, install it and try ./configure again
[22:43] <datta> twright: i think so too
[22:43] <andcor> matthew1: try installing libx11-dev which is the development files for the xserver client. you can do that by use of the command "sudo apt-get install libx11-dev"
[22:43] <derxx> whats up
[22:44] <Gnea> derxx: the sky
[22:44] <datta> maybe it's cause of the router then
[22:44] <matthew1> andcor, thanks alot
[22:44] <andcor> your welcome
[22:44] <DigitalKiwi> you're*
[22:44] <derxx> i am from estonia :)
[22:44] <duffydack> norstrom, I wish I knew a fix.  Its not so bad most times, but something like making a vbox hd image takes it all up, and even playing music stops, till its finished.
[22:45] <twright> datta, I saw people saying about issues on myspace earlier today so I would look for quick check but unless it keeps happening there is not much you can do
[22:45] <whatsinaname> Ok, quick raid question..... I have 2 750 gig drives in raid 1 software mdadm raid just for data (os on seperate drive) I now want to seperate the 2 drives to put one in another machine.  How do I remove the raid and keep the data intact?
[22:45] <Gnea> derxx: that's nice. do you have a question about Ubuntu?
[22:45] <derxx> yeah
[22:45] <GilJ> datta: No, that's not Ubuntu
[22:45] <andcor> derxx: this channel is a support channel, not a channel for chatting. just ask your question
[22:45] <abhifx> xmnt, even sudo doesnt work
[22:45] <derxx> how i can install Amsn in my ubuntu
[22:45] <sunny007> Gnea: apt-cache search asciidoc  << When I type that nothing happens.
[22:45] <twright> derxx, well ask away :-)
[22:45] <Gnea> derxx: sudo apt-get install amsn
[22:45] <bravo7> Quick question if i'm going get a new ubuntu installation should i have /home 5gb /boot 64mb /  10gb /swap 4gb ???
[22:45] <Gnea> sunny007: does it ever return to the prompt?
[22:45] <bravo7> or get a /ext4 / blank 20 gb
[22:46] <andcor> derxx: sudo apt-get install amsn
[22:46] <sunny007> yes immediately
[22:46] <andcor> in a terminal
[22:46] <derxx> and  java  _
[22:46] <norstrom> duffydack: yeah, I have large media files dl'd in the background and unrar. Turns the bax into a waiting game... I'll see what I find and if I see you here I'll pass it on.
[22:46] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone care to explain how would i open a port range i.e. 1000-2000?
[22:46] <Gnea> !java | derxx
[22:46] <CheetahrunoutNDS> someone here?
[22:46] <DigitalKiwi> no CheetahrunoutNDS
[22:46] <derxx> i dont se youtube videos
[22:46] <Gnea> 16:49 -!- There is no such nick someone
[22:46] <derxx> be cose i dont have java
[22:46] <xmnt> derxx, youtube must be down
[22:46] <DigitalKiwi> :/
[22:47] <Gnea> derxx: youtube doesn't use java
[22:47] <Gnea> xmnt: enough.
[22:47] <Adzie> i need help with playing movies/music on ubuntu 9.04 cant anyone help? am a n00b
[22:47] <sunny007> Gnea: yes. It immediately returns to prompt when i type  apt-cache search asciidoc
[22:47] <Gnea> derxx: you need flash for youtube, not java
[22:47] <derxx> my ubuntu needs java
[22:47] <Gnea> !flash | derxx
[22:47] <mezquitale> !ask | CheetahrunoutNDS
[22:47] <xmnt> !offtopic | Gnea
[22:47] <derxx> or flash
[22:47] <Gnea> xmnt: no, it is you who is OT.
[22:47] <DevedseNDS_> hello
[22:48] <xmnt> !offtopic | Gnea
[22:48] <Adzie> hello
[22:49] <CheetahrunoutNDS> hgg
[22:49] <whatsinaname> Ok, quick raid question..... I have 2 750 gig drives in raid 1 software mdadm raid just for data (os on seperate drive) I now want to seperate the 2 drives to put one in another machine.  How do I remove the raid and keep the data intact? any help?
[22:49] <CheetahrunoutNDS> srry nds test
[22:49] <ace__> Can someone help me with an install problem? I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 along side of Vista. The installer sees Vista, but does not give me the option to run side by side
[22:50] <Gnea> ace__: you'd need to resize your hard drive for that, to make space for ubuntu
[22:50] <derxx> ok th'nx:)
[22:50] <xmnt> ace__, do you have a partition for ubuntu?
[22:50] <Gnea> !install | ace__
[22:50] <Adzie> >	i need help with playing movies/music on ubuntu 9.04 cant anyone help? am a n00b
[22:50] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone care to explain how would i open a port range i.e. 1000-2000?
[22:51] <ace__> Gnea: xmnt: I have the drive split already from Windows both NTFS
[22:51] <migg> hi
[22:51] <twright> sunny007, hi again - you need to do sudo apt-get install asciidoc
[22:51] <Gnea> ace__: ubuntu doesn't run on NTFS, you will need to make sure it's not NTFS
[22:51] <migg> I am bill gates!!
[22:51] <DigitalKiwi> spai
[22:51] <andcor> Pirate_Hunter: your router or firewall manual can
[22:51] <migg> And the Linux is stupid!
[22:52] <Gnea> !ops | migg obvious troll
[22:52] <ace__> Gnea: that's what I'm trying to do, but when I tried ext4 it said no root file system found
[22:52] <derxx> Reading package lists... Done
[22:52] <derxx> Building dependency tree... Done
[22:52] <derxx> E: Couldn't find package amsn
[22:52] <derxx> root@laptop:~#
[22:52] <FloodBot1> derxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <niko> migg: this is a support channel
[22:52] <derxx> k
[22:52] <Flannel> migg: Hi, this is a support channel.  Please take non-support converastion elsewhere, thanks.
[22:52] <derxx> help
[22:53] <cocoa117> anyone know if beagle in jaunty support CHM yet?
[22:53] <Gnea> ace__: you need to make sure you designate one of them as your / in the installer
[22:53] <matthew1> andcor now it says "we could not detect the boost library..." lol
[22:53] <xmnt> worm, did you get your issue sorted out yet?
[22:53] <DigitalKiwi> install boost
[22:54] <worm> xmnt, yes managed to launch a formatting procedure from the web panel :)
[22:54] <andcor> matthew1: in that case you should search for the boost library development files. you can do that using the command "apt-cache search boost dev"
[22:54] <ace__> Gnea: Ok, it's saying I have make a swap space
[22:54] <xmnt> worm, good deal
[22:54] <whatsinaname> Arg every thing I read is how to create raid 1 array with disks, not how to remove the mirror and keep the data.  any help?
[22:54] <Gnea> sunny007: weird - you're sure you're on 9.04?
[22:54] <michael1> my intel 3945 wireless card only works sometimes. some pertinent information is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/270008/ can anyone help me figure this out? I'd like to switch over all the way from windows but can't be stuck to the router all the time
[22:54] <Gnea> !info asciidoc
[22:54] <andcor> matthew1: and then just install the package you find by "apt-get install package-name"
[22:54] <Pirate_Hunter> andcor: I have tried it with ufw and I still get that it is closed, nmap didnt help the port is either filtered or closed
[22:54] <Pici> !chm
[22:54] <Turbolinux> How can I solve the HDA Intel sound card problem on my HP Pavilion dv7-1040 notebook computer by the easiest way?
[22:55] <andcor> Pirate_Hunter: do you have a router or a firewall
[22:55] <musikgoat> whatsinaname: hmmm,  i'm not sure i've seen that done... short of moving the data off the disks
[22:55] <Gnea> !laptop | Turbolinux (check these urls out, see if your model is listed there, someone else may have posted it)
[22:55] <musikgoat> whatsinaname: hardware or software raid?
[22:55] <Pirate_Hunter> andcor: the router firewall is open already
[22:56] <whatsinaname> musikgoat  I guess I could just remove the drive physically and my raid would yell about it.  then install in other computer.  software mdadm raid 1
[22:56] <xim_> is there any semi-simple way to write a shell script that keeps a header of text at the top constant while the bottom half of the screen scrolls through all the output of commands?
[22:56] <andcor> Pirate_Hunter: do you have a firewall on the computer ?
[22:56] <xmnt> Pirate_Hunter, are you running iptables?
[22:56] <McSchmo> is there a program in linux the search for left-over config from previous applications?
[22:56] <xim_> good question, id like that
[22:56] <Gnea> xim_: that would be kinda neat... #shell-scripting or #bash might know
[22:56] <sunny007> Gnea : i found a .deb package for the MadWimax. but I cannot install it . it gives me error: Dependence is not satisfied: libusb1.
[22:56] <xim_> Gnea: thanks
[22:56] <bravo7> does anyone know how QuickSynergy works??
[22:56] <isleshocky77> I ran the update manager yesterday and then after a reboot I was unable to see any text.  Under icons, next to icons, on menus, anywhere... any help?
[22:56] <Gnea> sunny007: cool, where was it?
[22:57] <musikgoat> whatsinaname: yeah, that would work
[22:57] <mezquitale> McSchmo, just auto remove stuff you dont want sudo apt-get autoremove
[22:57] <bravo7> Does it work for windows xp quicksynergy
[22:57] <xmnt> McSchmo, sudo aptitude autoremove  ... also 9.04 has a janitor features
[22:57] <bravo7> quick pm me
[22:57] <Pirate_Hunter> xmnt, andcor: ufw im guessing that is similar no actual firewall
[22:57] <xmnt> Pirate_Hunter, oh not ufw ...
[22:57] <isleshocky77> I can see it in the console when I switch to tty1
[22:57] <musikgoat> whatsinaname: clean the disk with fdisk, i assume
[22:57] <whatsinaname> musikgoat  yeah, will do.
[22:57] <sunny007> I found it in the google page of the madwimax. The error message is in package installer. Error: dependency is not satisfiable: libusb1
[22:58] <xmnt> Pirate_Hunter, sudo aptitude remove --purge ufw iptables
[22:58] <akn> I lost my ubuntu's grub and now I am on a slow connection and don't have the livecd ... how do I restore the grub? I have puppylinux's livecd .. can I use that to restore grub?
[22:58] <xmnt> Pirate_Hunter, sudo aptitude install iptables
[22:58] <Gnea> sunny007: okay - yeah, saw your error the first time - sec
[22:58] <musikgoat> !fixgrub | akn
[22:58] <matthew1> andcor, thanks for your help, do I want c++ or python dev files?
[22:58] <Pirate_Hunter> xmnt: sounded like you were being sarcastic, hehehee, why would I want to do that?
[22:58] <whatsinaname> ok musikgoat thanks for the help.  off to break my server :)
[22:58] <musikgoat> :p
[22:58] <andcor> matthew1: just take both, then you are sure
[22:58] <akn> musikgoat: thanks but i can't get ubuntu's live cd .. it's 700mb
[22:59] <xmnt> Pirate_Hunter, ufw is a piece of junk
[22:59] <whatsinaname> musikgoat if it is not broke, I am not having fun.  Least that is how I feel about linux heheh
[22:59] <andcor> Pirate_Hunter: try running the command " sudo /etc/init.d/ufw stop"
[22:59] <akn> is help.ubuntu.com down ?
[22:59] <michael1> my intel 3945 wireless card only works sometimes. some pertinent information is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/270008/ can anyone help me figure this out? I'd like to switch over all the way from windows but can't be stuck to the router all the time
[22:59] <Gnea> sunny007: okay, i don't see the .deb, but i did get it to compile
[22:59] <ace__> Gnea: should I make the swap drive primary or logical.. and do I want it at the beginning or the end?
[22:59] <musikgoat> akn: its not responding to my request either
[23:00] <twright> xim_, you can do that but I think you need to use ncurses for that sort of stuff
[23:00] <Gnea> ace__: i usually have swap as primary
[23:00] <Gnea> ace__: and i put logicals at the end
[23:00] <IdleOne> akn: I think so
[23:00] <ace__> Gnea: So Swap area should be at the beginning?
[23:01] <musikgoat> Gnea: is there known performance increases with primary versus logical?
[23:01] <teratorn> it doesn't matter
[23:01] <sunny007> Gnea: http://madwimax-dev.googlegroups.com/web/madwimax_0.1.1-1_i386.deb?gda=BMmiIEsAAADXo9UV9Wj-VkTGDWMH37wWLHMZXdHRzl9N1rlua8F7vRodjLiE8HXKD-sFGBjTgrv5Pld91zQymirrAkwf96O5BkXa90K8pT5MNmkW1w_4BQ
[23:01] <teratorn> the only thing that matters is spindle-position
[23:01] <derxx> tere mis toimub
[23:01] <ScarletSwordfish> hello
[23:01] <xim_> twright: ncurses eh?
[23:01] <teratorn> data on the outer edge of the spindle is read at a much faster rate than closer to the center
[23:02] <derxx> on siin eestlasi veel ve _:D
[23:02] <coldpizza72i> what program could i use to write shells in linux
[23:02] <Pirate_Hunter> xmnt, andcor:  hmmm weird apparently of the range I chose only one is open, wouldve thought it would use the full range for connections, maybe if I change ufw default allow/accept I could get the other ports open
[23:02] <coldpizza72i> like the equivalent of notepad for windows
[23:02] <matthew1> andcor, thanks again for your help.
[23:02] <trism> coldpizza72i: shell scripts?
[23:02] <musikgoat> coldpizza72i: gedit, kate
[23:02] <andcor> matthew1: your welcome
[23:02] <Pici> !editor | coldpizza72i
[23:03] <jeromel> re
[23:03] <lucarg> hello, does any one know an old fashion mac icon theme for ubuntu
[23:03] <lucarg> ?
[23:03] <Gnea> sunny007: can't get it to install here either
[23:03] <bazhang> lucarg, imetal
[23:03] <musikgoat> but none of those compare to notepad for windows :P  they are much better
[23:03] <twright> xim_, going through this might help (although you may need to do some c coding) http://www.captain.at/howto-curses-example.php
[23:04] <sunny007> So should I just try to compile it?
[23:04] <Gnea> sunny007: but it compiled, and it says the same error, so i ran it like this: ./madwimax -v   and it tries to scan the USB bus, so you need to have the usb card plugged in before you run it
[23:04] <Turbolinux> Is that work when we add hda model=hp parameter on HDA Intel sound card and where is needed place for add on configuration file?
[23:04] <HowardTheDuck> hey when is krafty koala coming ouyt
[23:04] <HowardTheDuck> out
[23:04] <Pici> !9.10 | HowardTheDuck
[23:04] <sunny007> the asciidoc not found
[23:04] <bazhang> HowardTheDuck, karmic discussion in #ubuntu+1
[23:04] <ESCAPADO> how to output only added or deleted lines (and not moved lines) with diff?
[23:04] <HowardTheDuck> what does will break mean?
[23:04] <coldpizza72i> i tried mousepad and saved it as .sh but it didnt work
[23:04] <AmDeep> Hi
[23:04] <Gnea> sunny007: what is output of this command:  lsb_release -r
[23:05] <AmDeep> is there a french channel for Ubuntu support ?
[23:05] <andcor> Pirate_Hunter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772508
[23:05] <Pici> HowardTheDuck: It means its still alpha, use it at your own risk
[23:05] <Pici> AmDeep: #ubuntu-fr
[23:05] <Gnea> !fr | AmDeep
[23:05] <trism> there are also built in bindings to curses in python if he wanted something more script-like
[23:05] <HowardTheDuck> thanks
[23:05] <Noturno99> any suport in portuguese?
[23:05] <Pici> !pt | Noturno99
[23:05] <AmDeep> Merci
[23:05] <twright> HowardTheDuck, It means (stuff that has happened to me) that the mouse will suddenly stop working or you won't be able to boot on occasions
[23:06] <trism> coldpizza72i: gotta make sure it is executable first, chmod 755 file_name_here
[23:06] <twright> HowardTheDuck, it is still a lot of fun though :-)
[23:07] <Pirate_Hunter> andcor: Ive used that same example to open my ports based on the fith post only one port of my whole range is open, im certain the rest should also be opne
[23:08] <derxx> pleas  giv me some web browser  when i dont  need install Flash ,  and whats work ubuntu
[23:08] <sunny007> Gnea: release 9.04
[23:08] <derxx> :D
[23:08] <andcor> Pirate_Hunter: if you looked at the discussion you would see that you could use post 7
[23:08] <IdleOne> derxx: firefox
[23:08] <DigitalKiwi> uzbl
[23:08] <derxx> firefox need flash
[23:08] <wsmith84> this is the best channel ever
[23:08] <twright> sunny007, if you go into software sources what options are enabled
[23:08] <Gnea> sunny007: I find it difficult to believe that asciidoc is not in your repository
[23:09] <ScarletSwordfish> i am trying to install Ubuntu on a windows xp latptop, but when i am getting an "impossible to resized partition" error
[23:09] <andcor> derxx: if you want youtube all browsers needs flash
[23:09] <IdleOne> derxx: do you want to be able to use flash?
[23:09] <danpandrea> need a little bit of help, any volunteers?
[23:09] <derxx> yes
[23:09] <ScarletSwordfish> is there a simple fix for this?
[23:09] <twright> derxx, If you want to view flash then you need flash installed
[23:09] <xim_> whats the diffreence between apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[23:09] <IdleOne> derxx: then you need to install flash
[23:09] <DigitalKiwi> andcor: not entirely true...
[23:09] <Gnea> !ask | danpandrea
[23:09] <DigitalKiwi> you can use mplayer
[23:09] <IdleOne> !flash | derxx
[23:09] <andcor> DigitalKiwi: yeah thats correct. but in the browser you would want to have flash
[23:10] <twright> ScarletSwordfish, Hi, you could try checking the partition in XP first or resizing it using XP's disk manager
[23:10] <derxx> k i try
[23:10] <bastid_raZor> xim_: update updates your repo list.. upgrade upgrades your packages available from your repo list
[23:10] <DigitalKiwi> it's fairly common for uzbl users to use mplayer as i understand it
[23:10] <sunny007> Gnea: everything except sourcecode
[23:10] <Turbolinux> Can you answer my question?
[23:10] <danpandrea> how do i install ubuntu without the booting from the cd-rom?
[23:10] <xim_> bastid_raZor: oh ok thx
[23:10] <IdleOne> usb
[23:10] <sebsebseb> !install |  dm-madman
[23:10] <sebsebseb> dm-madman: uh wrong one
[23:10] <sebsebseb> danpandrea:  see above
[23:10] <twright> danpandrea, you could try booting from usb
[23:10] <sebsebseb> !usb |  danpandrea
[23:10] <FloodBot1> sebsebseb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <codyplatta> you can download the ISO file from the Ubuntu website
[23:10] <IdleOne> !usb > danpandrea
[23:11] <bastid_raZor> xim_: they should be run in that order when updating/installing anything.
[23:11] <jcris> I cant get the new version of zinc (1.1.9) to change rooms or even go into a room besides default, nayone know of a fix yet?
[23:11] <xim_> bastid_raZor: yeah thats why i was asking was for the order
[23:11] <codyplatta> danpandrea... you can download the ISO file the Ubuntu website, and write it to a disk
[23:11] <ScarletSwordfish> i do not see an option to resize the partition in the Disk Manager.
[23:11] <duffydack> VLC plays youtube vids smoother than flash.   I can watch a fullscreen flash vid at least..
[23:11] <bastid_raZor> xim_: update then upgrade
[23:11] <IdleOne> codyplatta: he asked how to do it without cd
[23:12] <twright> ScarletSwordfish, it might just be in vista then. Have you tried checking the partition and how much space do you have left?
[23:12] <sunny007> Gnea: everything except sourcecode is enabled
[23:12] <codyplatta> use 'WUBI'. It can install Ubuntu on your computer without the use of a CD. Just Google it, and install.
[23:12] <xim_> does autoremove do the same thing as jauntys janitor?  why does the janitor want to remove my truecrypt installation?  this means i can't put apt-get autoremove at the end of my system-setup script like I want to?
[23:13] <Gnea> sunny007: that shouldn't make a difference... did you see what twright said?
[23:13] <ScarletSwordfish> there is 24.89 GB of free space on the partition.
[23:14] <akn> so anyone have an idea about how to configure grub from puppylinux - but to restore a ubuntu installation? I really need help
[23:14] <codyplatta> danpandrea... download WUBI, and install it to get Ubuntu without the use of a CD.
[23:14] <twright> sunny007, you could also try going through number 3 on the list here - I think that is your problem: http://simplyubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/24/10-tips-for-the-ubuntu-newcomer/
[23:14] <danpandrea> thanks for the reply
[23:14] <nemesis1911> when I try to play chess in 3D it says "No Python OpenGL Support No Python GTKGLExt support
[23:14] <nemesis1911> ???
[23:14] <codyplatta> welcome, danpandrea
[23:15] <Gogge> uhh I need help with partition types. im trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 and by default it selected Ext3 Journaling File System.. but I have no idea what these are
[23:15] <twright> !wubi | danandrea
[23:15] <eboyjr> Gogge: They are different formats for the computer to save files.
[23:15] <eboyjr> Gogge: ext3 is recommended for Ubuntu 9.04
[23:15] <sunny007> Gnea: yes I answered it. Though I thought it was you who asked. twright: software sources has 5 tabs. in ubuntu software & 3rd party everything is enabled.
[23:15] <wily> hey can anyone help me with this guide? http://samwel.tk/laptop_mode/packages/debian pretty simple but i'm stuck
[23:15] <codyplatta> I have a 'Microsoft LiveCam' USB webcam, and it won't work in Ubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[23:16] <Gogge> ooh ok... coz I kinda got used to seeing NTFS
[23:16] <twright> Gogge, basically either ext3 or ext4 (newer and faster) are good options
[23:16] <Gogge> So i should just leave it at Ext3?
[23:16] <eboyjr> Gogge: ntfs is a file system that Windows generally uses nowadays
[23:16] <eboyjr> Gogge: Yes ext3 is a good choice
[23:16] <Solar_Flare> Hi guys.
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Gogge: Ext4 will be the default in 9.10 :)  and  that's  much faster for boot up and that then Ext3,  it's a little bit hmm in 9.04 though
[23:16] <Gogge> Is ext4 a better choice?
[23:16] <xim_> codyplatta: microsoft probably include code if(linux){break}
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Gogge: depends
[23:16] <eboyjr> Gogge: In Ubuntu 9.10 I think they plan on using ext4 which should be a lot faster.. its still a little shaky
[23:16] <Solar_Flare> I have a problem, the Virtualbox PUEL edition menu entry isnt showing up. No Gui or whatsoever. I use Ubuntu Jaunty.
[23:16] <Gnea> sunny007: hrm... i'm baffled
[23:17] <codyplatta> xim_: darn... well I guess that's what Microsoft is known for... :(
[23:17] <Gogge> Oh ok, so i should stick with ext3 and use ext4 in 9.10
[23:17] <eboyjr> Gogge: I would use ext3. ext3 is a good choice
[23:17] <IdleOne> Gogge: use ext3
[23:17] <Gogge> Ok, thanks guys :)
[23:17] <xim_> codyplatta: heh, yeah seriously i dont know tho
[23:17] <eboyjr> Gogge: It's good to leave the defaults :P
[23:17] <codyplatta> But a generic webcam should work, right?
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Gogge: Ext4 maybe, but many people woudn't recommend it for 9.04,  but that also means you got to clean install when 9.10  comes out,  unless the Ext3 to Ext4 conversion will be good enough  then hmm
[23:17] <twright> Gogge, ext4 is better as it is newer/faster. Otherwise you will need to switch in 2 months anyway
[23:17] <HowardTheDuck> hey is there a way i can burn FLAC files to cd audio in Ubuntu?.
[23:18] <sunny007> Gnea: What do you suggest me to do?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Gogge: Ext4 in 9.04 will probably be ok, as long as you got any important data backed up just to be 100% sure, and you should be backing up anyway, because hard disks can just fail and such
[23:18] <eboyjr> Gogge: I mean I tried ext4 for Ubuntu (I actually think I am running it now) and I think it's fine
[23:18] <codyplatta> xim_: but generic webcams should work, right? (are there ones made for linux computers?)
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Gogge: a lockup issue when deleting big files from Ext4 in 9.04 maybe, but other then that, should be fine
[23:18] <sebsebseb> !notes  |  Gogge
[23:19] <twright> sebsebseb, The conversion will never be that good performance wise as it keeps old formatting
[23:19] <ScarletSwordfish> my partition has more than enough space.  any idea why i can't resize it?
[23:19] <IdleOne> ext3 is a fine choice and he will not need to fresh install in 2 months if he does not want to. to much info is not always good guys. let him go with the default for 9.04 and learn first so he then make an informed choice later
[23:19] <coldpizza72i> wait so what do i do....i wrote a shell on the desktop.....and instead of it being blue in terminal when i hit "ls" its green and invisable to the desktop
[23:19] <sebsebseb> Gogge: ok 9.04 with Ext3, and then clean install when 9.10 comes out and do the Ext4, this makes sense
[23:20] <twright> sunny007, did you see the link I posted
[23:20] <Moon_Doggy> so i turned on my laptop and loged in and notice that my task bars are MISSING
[23:20] <Kingsy101> anyone in here used fservs with irssi on ubuntu?
[23:20] <HowardTheDuck> I locked up emptying large files from trash with ext4, had to format to ext3
[23:20] <sunny007> Twright: Can you report is?
[23:20] <sunny007> repost*
[23:20] <duffydack> HowardTheDuck, convert to wav and burn
[23:20] <twright> sunny007, ok, look at point 3: http://simplyubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/06/24/10-tips-for-the-ubuntu-newcomer/
[23:20] <Gogge> Ok, so Ill go with Ext4 then :P... But new question, I clicked Next and got a message saying "No root file system is defined    please correct this from the partition menu"
[23:20] <xim_> codyplatta: yes usually generic ones should work, but occasionally there are random peices of hardware ubuntu just cant talk to, my HP scanner for one
[23:21] <HowardTheDuck> duffydack:  how
[23:21] <sebsebseb> Gogge: why are you doing manual partitoning anyway?
[23:21] <duffydack> HowardTheDuck, I personally use soundkonverter
[23:21] <Gogge> because I wanted to select a specific partition
[23:21] <codyplatta> xim_: hmmm... my HP All-in-one printer and scanner works fine with Ubuntu.
[23:21] <xim_> codyplatta: just google around for that exact model and ubuntu and look for other people who have gone through it before and their conclusions
[23:21] <HowardTheDuck> what apps would you recommend i use burning flac to a cd
[23:21] <twright> Gogge, you just need to put / as mount point for your main fs
[23:21] <HowardTheDuck> i have k3b
[23:21] <codyplatta> xim_: will do! ^^
[23:21] <Gogge> main fs?
[23:21] <HowardTheDuck> there wont be any loss doing that conversion would there
[23:21] <duffydack> HowardTheDuck, k3b cant burn audio from flac
[23:22] <Moon_Doggy> i using xbuntu and my task bars are missing
[23:22] <duffydack> HowardTheDuck, no
[23:22] <Raistlin_> have a wierd problem, my address and tool bar is missing from FF after installing a theme
[23:22] <twright> Gogge, the filesystem all your data and system will be on
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Gogge: see my pm
[23:22] <HowardTheDuck> duffydack:  thanks man.  there a lot of dependencies?  i'm not using kubuntu
[23:22] <Gogge> oh wow, sorry Im new to Mirc XD
[23:22] <SpacePigeon> does anybody know clutter's channel?
[23:22] <Kingsy101> anyone in here used fservs with irssi on ubuntu?
[23:22] <duffydack> HowardTheDuck, you use k3b tho
[23:23] <Raistlin_> file, view, edit etc is missing from firefox as well
[23:23] <duffydack> HowardTheDuck, try soundconverter
[23:23] <twright> Gogge, sorry about the techno language (irc is very fast :-) )
[23:23] <HowardTheDuck> i hate kde, but kde has some rad apps
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Gogge: it's a good idea to also have a seperate /home
[23:23] <duffydack> HowardTheDuck, or if you like shell, ffmpeg
[23:23] <ftherese> I deleted a user, like completely, like deluser -rf username, and made sure the home directory is gone, and the group as well, but every I recreate the same username, that username cannot connect to the internet
[23:23] <codyplatta> anyone know how to fix this? I can't edit my applications menu
[23:23] <ftherese> or browse the network
[23:23] <Solar_Flare> hi.
[23:24] <Solar_Flare> is there a way to get a virtualbox puel machine into a network with my pc?
[23:24] <HowardTheDuck> i just installe kubuntu desktop again this morning, to give it another try
[23:24] <HowardTheDuck> can't get into it
[23:24] <Solar_Flare> ubuntu tells me, that i have no cable plugged in.
[23:25] <twright> Solar_Flare, hi, presuming ubuntu is the guest you need to look in the preferences for the machine and add some adapters
[23:25] <ftherese> I was messing around with squid though... on another server... but have since removed it... everything else works... even users with the same username on other computers on the system
[23:25] <Solar_Flare> twright: I have an adapter installed.
[23:26] <HowardTheDuck> installing soundkonverter now
[23:26] <Solar_Flare> twright: mode bridged.
[23:26] <ftherese> why would one computer continue to refuse the same username
[23:26] <Raistlin_> can anyone here help me with the firefox issue?
[23:26] <ftherese> access to the local network, and to the internet... but within Gnome it seems
[23:26] <HowardTheDuck> man, 161 megs of dependencies
[23:27] <ScarletSwordfish> Anyone know why i can't resize my partition from the installer?
[23:27] <calwig> Hi, What is a good app to set a timer to turn off Ubuntu?
[23:27] <twright> Solar_Flare, it should be working then - can you post the output of the ifconfig command on the guest
[23:27] <sunny007> twright: I enabled multiverse / universe repositories. what do i do next?
[23:27] <calwig> (shutting down automatically)
[23:27] <Solar_Flare> twright: gimme a second.
[23:28] <eboyjr> calwig: Someone could write a Bash script :P
[23:28] <sterna> hi i'm just installing a karmic alpha and i have gettys on ttys
[23:28] <ftherese> I can ping google
[23:28] <twright> sunny007, after running the command sudo aptitude update can you install asciidoc as before?
[23:28] <ftherese> but I can't access the web or the internal network
[23:28] <ftherese> and I have already deleted the user completely three times
[23:28] <sterna> what are login credentials ?
[23:28] <Irishmanluke> good work
[23:28] <sterna> i need a shell
[23:29] <calwig> eboyjr: yea but for example set a 2 hour timer,
[23:29] <twright> ScarletSwordfish, what size is the partition and have you tried checking it in xp?
[23:29] <ejn85> hi! i just installed ubuntu for the first time on this crappy acer laptop i have and it seems like flashvideo eats up all of my system resources. any advice?
[23:29] <calwig> eboyjr: instead of a timer
[23:29] <Solar_Flare> twright: eth1 Link encap: Ethernet Hardware:address: 08:00:27:45:de:3d inet6-address: fe80::a00:27ff:fe45:de3d/64 G├╝ltigkeitsbereich:Verbindung
[23:29] <eboyjr> calwig: On the command line, the shutdown command has a built in timer.
[23:30] <Solar_Flare> calwig: shutdown --help
[23:30] <twright> ejn85, hi, you might be able to improve things depending on which video card you have
[23:30] <ScarletSwordfish> twiright: the size of the partition is 34.23 GB, with 24.89 gb free
[23:30] <akn_> can the ubuntu-9.04-alternate.iso be burned using unetbootin to be used as a livecd ?
[23:30] <FelpsJ> !samba
[23:30] <sunny007> twright: I'm completely ignorant of Linux's way og doing things. can you tell me how to install asciidoc?
[23:30] <ejn85> twright, its onboard laptop mobile suck gpu. am i stuck?
[23:31] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: can't access the web?
[23:31] <engels> hi
[23:31] <calwig> eboyjr: Solar_Flare I found a good app, gshutdown
[23:31] <twright> Solar_Flare, in that case the problem is not obvious, I can only recommend finding a tutorial and seeing if that helps
[23:31] <calwig> going to lunch bbl
[23:31] <engels> what is this for
[23:32] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: can you telnet www.google.com 80 and then GET index.html
[23:32] <engels> anybody talks here?
[23:32] <IdleOne> !hi | engels
[23:32] <Solar_Flare> twright: do you know any tutorial how to create a "virtual interface"?
[23:32] <twright> sunny007, there are different ways of doing it, if you want to use the command line then use sudo apt-get install asciidoc or if you want to use a gui open administration-> synaptic and search for and install it
[23:33] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: it is able to discover the IP address of google
[23:33] <engels> guess i can ask for help around here
[23:33] <Irishmanluke> so dns works
[23:33] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: try the telnet thing
[23:33] <engels> can't i?
[23:33] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: Yet that worked
[23:33] <IdleOne> !ask
[23:33] <twright> Solar_Flare, I remember having trouble  when doing it myself, you could try looking through the documentation or googling though
[23:34] <Solar_Flare> twright: thx
[23:34] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: are you positive it's not just a problem with your browser?
[23:34] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: sorry, I tried it on the wrong computer... the one I am IRC'ing on
[23:34] <twright> ejn85, if it intel you might be in luck as the driver in the next version of ubuntu will be much faster. Until then try running flashblock.
[23:34] <ejn85> is there any os tweaks for flash player to make it run better on a small system?
[23:35] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: The telnet thing does not work... it does find the ip address, but does not connect
[23:35] <engels> compiz shows no window
[23:35] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: ok
[23:35] <twright> ejn85, flash is slow everywhere but if you cut out ads it is a lot better
[23:35] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: I have to go for a sec sorry but I'll be beack in a few minutes
[23:35] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: ok
[23:36] <polycarbonate> you wont regret if you install flashblock
[23:36] <polycarbonate> its great
[23:36] <lord_prap> hi, anyone can help me to change default window manager? I change it with sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager, but when I reboot, still loads gnome
[23:36] <ejn85> twright, ok. if i us flashblock it will make the videos buttons and then i can select to play them and it will get rid of all the crap on the outside of the page?
[23:37] <_CommandeR_> how do I install epson px700w printer from network ?
[23:37] <casaubon> irc://irc.whatnet.org:6667/fbtz
[23:37] <polycarbonate> ejn85 > yes
[23:37] <twright> ejn85, yep. If you want to remove even more you can try adblock.
[23:37] <ejn85> cool. thank you!
[23:37] <ftherese> I can't connect to the internet under one user name on Ubuntu, the other users can connect just fine... I have even deleted the current user with the problem... completely deleted it deluser -rf, twice even, and every time I recreate it it cannot access the internet
[23:37] <lord_prap> ...
[23:38] <ftherese> I tested telnet www.google.com 80
[23:38] <ejn85> should i use firefox's addon installer or the synaptic installer?
[23:38] <ftherese> and it picks up Google's IP address but does not connect
[23:38] <ftherese> it just sort of hangs
[23:38] <ftherese> I am able to perform a traceroute
[23:38] <ftherese> and ping
[23:38] <polycarbonate> ejn85 > firefox installer works fine
[23:38] <ejn85> great!
[23:39] <polycarbonate> :)
[23:39] <ftherese> but not able to access the internet or the internel network
[23:39] <twright> ejn85, it does not really matter but it might be more up to date using firefox's one
[23:39] <ftherese> I had a proxy server set up, but have deleted it, and all the other users work fine
[23:39] <ejn85> thank you for the help!
[23:40] <polycarbonate> :)
[23:41] <DarthArachides> how do I tell apt-get to never install a package?
[23:41] <ScarletSwordfish> twiright: the size of the partition is 34.23 GB, with 24.89 gb free
[23:41] <DarthArachides> A particular package is causing problems, and I would like it to be never installed.
[23:42] <twright> ScarletSwordfish, hi again - did you checking the file system on xp (right click the drive and select check)
[23:42] <_CommandeR_> how do I install epson px700w printer from network ?
[23:42] <hacker> ylber
[23:42] <_CommandeR_> how do I install epson px700w printer that is connected to home network
[23:43] <hacker> is arianit her
[23:43] <twright> DarthArachides, if there is an option then it will probably be in synaptic
[23:43] <hacker> pleas  how can tell me
[23:43] <hacker> how do i install
[23:43] <DarthArachides> twright: yes, that's what I want; something using apt-get
[23:43] <hacker> exe in ubunto
[23:43] <_CommandeR_> hacker wine
[23:43] <DarthArachides> hacker: you can't run exe's natively in linux; use something like wine.
[23:44] <_CommandeR_> how do I install epson px700w printer that is connected to home network
[23:44] <pe1> hi, I have activated a proprietary grafic-card driver, and now I cannot boot. How I can deactivate the proprietary driver from a live-cd?
[23:44] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: how is your network configured?
[23:44] <unop> DarthArachides, try.   sudo aptitude hold your_package
[23:44] <ScarletSwordfish> twiright: i don't see a "check" anywhere
[23:44] <aftertech> wup guies
[23:45] <JackBeSlow> I have a problem with my wifi card and ndiswrapper, does anyone think they might be able to help? I have an asus wl-138g v1 which there are no linux drivers for, when I use ndiswrapper shortly after modprobing everything freezes.
[23:45] <DarthArachides> unop: Hi, it gives me an invalid operation error
[23:45] <DarthArachides> unop: I don't think my version of apt-get has hold
[23:45] <JackBeSlow> sorry if I typed that twice sent off the first one before I was connected to the channel
[23:45] <polycarbonate> i cant mount any ntfs driver, from nowhere. but when i open programs like pdf viewer or anyting else it sees the drive and i can mount. how can i do the mounting 'normal' way?
[23:45] <unop> DarthArachides, i didn't use apt-get there
[23:45] <joeb3_> pe1, can you login text mode?
[23:45] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: there are lots of computers hooked up to a router?
[23:45] <DarthArachides> unop: oops!
[23:45] <FelpsJ> How I can see if Ubuntu recognized my network??
[23:46] <pe1> joeb3_: I can choose the recovery mode in grub.
[23:46] <heartbeats> how can i join in gcc irc
[23:46] <twright> ScarletSwordfish, oops (I have not used xp for years). In that case can you try this: <ScarletSwordfish> twiright: i don't see a "check" anywhere
[23:46] <polycarbonate> FelpsJ > ifconfig
[23:46] <unop> heartbeats, #c or #c++ perhaps
[23:46] <joeb3_> pe1, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org from a command prompt
[23:46] <twright> ScarletSwordfish, http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/chkdsk.mspx?mfr=true
[23:46] <bravo7> Did anyone got synergy working with windows xp and ubuntu?
[23:46] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, ok. i will see
[23:46] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: it seems to me like the requests from one user are getting dropped
[23:46] <SJr> WHere can I get 2.6.31?
[23:47] <twright> bravo7, I did a while ago
[23:47] <bravo7> twright cool
[23:47] <bravo7> how?
[23:47] <polycarbonate> it will list the networks
[23:47] <JackBeSlow> bravo7: as did I, why? Having issues?
[23:47] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: not from one machine... because other users on the same machine connect just fine
[23:47] <Irishmanluke> oh
[23:47] <woodjrx> Is anyone here familiar with editing the dsdt config file?  I'm trying to fix the battery boot hang on my hp laptop.
[23:47] <bravo7> JackBeSlow yes
[23:47] <newser> hello, I need help. I cannot play any video files because when I try to open the video player (any kind - vlc, mplayer, etc) all of them suddenly close before playing the clip. What can I do to fix this?
[23:47] <twright> bravo7, using quick synergy (the ubuntu gui)
[23:47] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: I did not realize that his was a problem with one particular user
[23:47] <pe1> joeb3_: there is a option for that in the recovery menu. clean grafic problems, I guess. but it wasn't helping. how can I disable the proprietary grafic-driver?
[23:48] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: yes just one user
[23:48] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, It says two networks:  lo and  wlan0. But im trying to find my ethernet network
[23:48] <bravo7> JackBeSlow  Twright ya i'm using quicksy
[23:48] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: and I have deleted him three times
[23:48] <dabukalam> newser: open terminal, and type vlc. when it closes, tell us what the error is...
[23:48] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: and each time I recreate it I have the same problem
[23:48] <polycarbonate> so its not recognised as a result :(
[23:48] <bravo7> JackBeSlow  Twright wat i notice that there are another binaries package one for server and client
[23:49] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, My router says there is connection. What should I do?
[23:49] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: idk, compare the groups of the one user to the others
[23:49] <bravo7> JackBeslow twright which one should i get to work with windows xp and ubuntu?
[23:49] <polycarbonate> maybe your ethernet card is not compatible but %80 of ethernet cards are comp. ussually
[23:49] <_CommandeR_> how do I install epson px700w printer that is connected to home network
[23:49] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: hmm... ok
[23:49] <twright> bravo7, ah yes, you actually need to install the normal synergy from the repos for quicksynergy to work
[23:49] <polycarbonate> try entering 192.168.1.1 in your browser
[23:49] <dabukalam> _CommandeR_: download and install the drivers, and when you add the network printer, select the drivers you installed from the list
[23:49] <ftherese> Irishmanluke:  I have the exact same setup on four computers
[23:50] <polycarbonate> or whatever your default router address is
[23:50] <joeb3_> FelpsJ, does ifconfig -a show the card?
[23:50] <newser> video error => http://pastebin.com/d663e0b87
[23:50] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: they are just reduplications that function as failover servers for an lstp network
[23:50] <bravo7> twright, i did sudo apt-get install synergy i already have
[23:50] <Irishmanluke> ok
[23:50] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, looks like it is pan0
[23:50] <JackBeSlow> bravo7: well whichever one is going to be your main computer and has the mouse/keyboard attached to it should get the server installed and the other computer the client.
[23:50] <kristian1> easy question: how do i connect to a shell/ssh via terminal in ubuntu?
[23:50] <_CommandeR_> dabukalam, but were, tried the epson site but they guide me to another site...
[23:50] <DarthArachides> unop: thanks, seems to have done the trick!
[23:51] <exercicios> Trying to find a farm which supports html tags, inclusion of pages with tags, templates and list pages or backlinks
[23:51] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: I have no clue
[23:51] <bravo7> jackbeslow my windows xp is my main
[23:51] <exercicios> Trying to find a wiki farm which supports html tags, inclusion of pages with tags, templates and list pages or backlinks
[23:51] <twright> bravo7, have you tried referring to something like this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/18/synergy-share-input-between-multiple-machines-ubuntu-6061-610/
[23:51] <pe1> how can I boot without propritary drivers?
[23:51] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: ok...
[23:51] <wuw372> kristian1: ssh username@hostname
[23:51] <polycarbonate> well sorry i dont know :(
[23:51] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, is pan0 related to ethernet connections?
[23:51] <dabukalam> newser: have you installed your graphics drivers?
[23:51] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: if it's just with one user it must be  a permissions problem thuogh right?
[23:51] <kristian1> wuw372: thanks! :-)
[23:51] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: it must be happening at some point after the DNS gives the ip address
[23:51] <polycarbonate> im not sure
[23:51] <JackBeSlow> anyone think they can help with a freezing issue caused by ndiswrapper?
[23:52] <joeb3_> pan0 is for bluetooth
[23:52] <polycarbonate> maybe someone could hep
[23:52] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: because the user is able to resolve the names, and even ping
[23:52] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: but it is as though the packets were just being dropped
[23:52] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, ok. thank you
[23:52] <polycarbonate> FelpsJ > is your router usb?
[23:52] <Irishmanluke> ftherese: did you compare the groups that each user was in?
[23:52] <newser> dabukalam, have no idea :( I have  netbook eeepc 904ha. I do not have any special video card
[23:52] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: let me look at that... I will recreate the user
[23:52] <polycarbonate> FelpsJ > or are u using ethernet
[23:53] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, no. My wifi is USB (im using now), but i want to set up my ethernet connection
[23:53] <dabukalam> newser: do you have anything else open? vlc complains you don't have sufficient resources to watch the video, but it can't be that bad...
[23:53] <dabukalam> _CommandeR_: it's an all-in-one?
[23:54] <twright> bravo7, if something specific is going wrong could you try running quick synergy from the commandline and posting any errors
[23:54] <polycarbonate> yes i think u should because ethernet ports never have problems for usb you need drivers
[23:54] <_CommandeR_> dabukalam, yeah
[23:54] <newser> dabukalam, firefox - youtube - and kolour
[23:54] <saji> Hi.. I'm using ubuntu 9.04.. How will i upgrade my display driver manually to support my Intel graphics card better? Heard that a better driver is available, as the one in Ubuntu 9.10 Alpha...
[23:54] <twright> bravo7, btw. for pasting use paste.ubuntu.com
[23:54] <_CommandeR_> dabukalam, http://support.epson-europe.com/APSBusiness/LinuxDriver.html
[23:55] <saji> Please help me.... Anybody....
[23:55] <newser> dabukalam, is there any way to restart/restore the video options?
[23:55] <twright> saji, I am on karmic now and it is a lot better. You could either wait or go through the risks of running the alpha.
[23:55] <twright> !intel | saji
[23:55] <twright> !9.10|saji
[23:56] <saji> ubottu, i know that Karmic koala is ubuntu 9.10
[23:57] <slops> hey all
[23:57] <bravo7> twright, on my windows xp its setup as a server for syn and on ubuntu i'm lost what to do
[23:57] <slops> i am looking for some fstab help
[23:57] <GhostWolfy> hi all. i got a few questions, first question is i have installed cheese so i can capture video and images from my webcam, whenever i start cheese i have no lighting at all is thee anyone able to help?
[23:57] <jophish> If I had a machine with 4 1tb drives, is there any way I can get a software raid 5 with Ubuntu on it, running the software raid?
[23:57] <Ntdx> Hi, I have install 'tvtime' but when I start it I only se af dark blue screen, No menu , nothing! Somone know whats wrong?
[23:57] <bravo7> twright, i need to a command to run as a client?
[23:57] <ftherese> Irishmanluke: looks like the problem use has two extra groups that the one of the other working users doesn't have: lpadmin and netdev
[23:57] <_CommandeR_> dabukalam, its Epson PX700W all in one
[23:57] <FelpsJ> how I can add a shortcut to terminal in one panel?
[23:57] <pe1> how can I disable the boot with a propritary driver?
[23:57] <slops> i want my 1tb drive to auto mount on boot
[23:57] <bravo7> lol
[23:57] <bravo7> i got it
[23:57] <bravo7> LOL
[23:57] <Izinucs> GhostWolfy: try the other video codec in cheese..
[23:58] <tate> I am trying to get flash working on a 64-bit 8.04 system, any advice?
[23:58] <twright> barvo7, no, the client tab of quicksynergy should work
[23:58] <dabukalam> !fstab | slops
[23:58] <Izinucs> !flash | tate
[23:58] <slops> when i run this i get no such device
[23:58] <GhostWolfy> Izinucs, um what other video codec?? i don't see much options there
[23:58] <slops> vol_id --uuid
[23:58] <twright> although the process is a bit confusing
[23:58] <bravo7> twright, yeap i just went to quick synergy and click on tab 'use ' and type in my hostname
[23:58] <saji> twright, there is some manual way to upgrade the intel driver.
[23:58] <bravo7> and bam
[23:58] <bravo7> connectdeeeeeeeee
[23:59] <Izinucs> GhostWolfy: there's v4l and another.. it's in the setup for the camera
[23:59] <slops> thanks ill check them out
[23:59] <FelpsJ> how can I add a shortcut to terminal in one panel?
[23:59] <newser> dabukalam, ohh, hehe, just remember that I am using an external monitor on my netbook. Is this what causes that much trouble?
[23:59] <twright> saji, there is one on the forums but installing the newer drivers on karmic is probably more risky then trying karmic
[23:59] <silare> Hi, all. All of a sudden when I reboot my computer after removing timidity from my computer, I found that I no longer had sound. Is there a way to fix this?