[00:43] <gorgut> hey, folks. I'm trying to install pyxfce and the configure script keeps erroring out with libxfce4mcs-client-1.0 missing. I don't see this anywhere in the jaunty repos. Ideas?
[02:34] <gorgut>  hello, folks. I'm trying to get pyxfce working in xubuntu 9.04. I seem to be having a conflict between pyxfce requiring "pygtk-2.0" and ubuntu (best I can tell) calling the same package "python-gtk2". Can anyone shed some light on this?
[02:38] <SiDi_> hi gorgut
[02:38] <gorgut> lo, SiDi_
[02:38] <SiDi_> pyxfce might be outdated :p which would explain your issue about libxfce4mcs
[02:38] <SiDi_> which i think is an XFCE 4.4 lib
[02:38] <gorgut> well, i got that problem sortefd
[02:38] <gorgut> *sorted
[02:39] <gorgut> apparently, xfce doesn't use MCS anymore in 4.6
[02:39] <SiDi_> exactly
[02:39] <SiDi_> where did you get pyxfce ?
[02:39] <gorgut> the pyxfce website says it has a new version that supports 4.6 :)
[02:39] <SiDi_> i recommend you to get it from xfce.org, try to find the version 4.6
[02:39] <SiDi_> great
[02:39] <gorgut> http://pyxfce.xfce.org/index.php?lang=en
[02:40] <SiDi_> so you're trying to build it ?
[02:40] <gorgut> yes
[02:40] <SiDi_> you'll need python-gtk2 but also python-gtk2-dev for the build
[02:40] <gorgut> it fails at the configure
[02:40] <gorgut> ok
[02:41] <gorgut> hrm. well, i didn't have -dev installed.. lets try that
[02:41] <SiDi_> -dev packages are required when building from source
[02:42] <gorgut> i was just confused that configure kept asking for "pygtk-2.0"
[02:42] <gorgut> there is "python-gtk2" in the repos tho
[02:42] <SiDi_> :)
[02:42] <SiDi_> yes, pygtk is the fast to type name
[02:42] <SiDi_> configure asks for -dev packages
[02:44] <gorgut> ok. sweet. that fixed it :D
[02:44] <gorgut> thanks so much, SiDi_
[02:45] <SiDi_> you're welcome gorgut
[04:30] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> I have a problem with Xubuntu
[04:31] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> Everytime I start my computer, I enter my username and then the password, but for some reason, everytime i enter the password, it freezes.
[04:31] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> I can move my mouse and everything, but once i typed in my password and press enter, it doesn't do anything
[04:32] <sdfadfsadfsasdfa> Does anyone have a similar issue?
[05:36] <ldez> Good evening, all. I am having an issue and would very much appreciate any help that ya'll could offer.. I installed Xubuntu 9.04 on my dad's prehistoric laptop this evening, and after a successful installation and installing all current updates, after rebooting my xfce4-panel failed to load. I was able to 'alt-F2' to run 'xfce4-panel' in terminal, and for a temporary fix I added it to the start up processes.. However, this being my dads laptop,
[05:36] <ldez>  I would very much appreciate a more permanent fix if any of you could offer any insight...
[06:37] <lsemple_> 9 11 was an inside job
[06:37] <genii> lsemple_: This isn't a political forum
[06:52] <ldez> That doesn't stop lsemple from being correct...
[06:53] <genii> ldez: And offtopic :)
[06:57] <ldez> genii: If you'd rather stay on topic, do you know anything about xfce4-panel ceasing to load on start up after installing initial 9.04 updates?
[06:58] <genii> ldez: Not particularly. I haven't had that issue, updates seem to apply without incident so far on my Jaunty Xubuntu
[16:03] <ldez> So last night I thought it was just my xfce4-panel that was not appearing after booting, however I have now realized that my desktop icons/background don't load either.. It's almost like Xfce doesn't want to be a startup process...
[16:05] <_Pete_> what the fuck
[16:05] <_Pete_> after reboot audio doenst work
[16:06] <ldez> Did you recently install updates? I installed the initial updates on a clean installation and since then things have been not loading after reboot...
[16:07] <_Pete_> dont know for sure
[16:09] <ldez> Pete, do you have the speaker icon on your panel?
[16:09] <_Pete_> no
[16:11] <ldez> Pete, try hitting alt-f2 and run "alsactl restore"
[16:12] <_Pete_> doesebt help
[16:13] <_Pete_> seems like everything is fuckedup
[16:13] <ldez> Here, check this out maybe you can find some answers.. I'm a noob :(  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1198516
[16:16] <ldez> Seems like the original post wasn't quite your exact problem but some other subsequent posts were people having the same issue...
[16:17] <_Pete_> voi vitun paska nyt menee hermot
[16:19] <SiDi> ldez: afaik alsactl is quite obsolete
[16:19] <SiDi> _Pete_: paste 'aplay -l' 's output please
[16:19] <SiDi> and also what happens when you open alsamixer ?
[16:20] <SiDi> ldez: what updates did you perform exactly ? involves kernel update, driver updates ?
[16:20] <SiDi> What GPU do you have ?
[16:22] <ldez> SiDi: it was a clean install of Xubuntu 9.04 that I did last night on my dads laptop. Its a Dell Inspiron 5150, the video card is NVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200 AGP 4x Graphics.. I'm not entirely sure what all the updates were because there were about 165 or so of them. And thanks for having some more recent input on Pete's problem, I was just relaying what little info I could muster from forums.
[16:22] <_Pete_> SiDi: http://pastebin.com/d4a4530b7
[16:23] <SiDi> okey, ldez
[16:23] <SiDi> we had a bug after updates linked to xfce4-session but never managed to find out whats wrong
[16:23] <ldez> After I initially installed 9.04 last night, I did have the "Restricted Drivers Available" notification, after the update I didn't get that any more.
[16:24] <SiDi> (the updates that were causing problems were updates of the generic driver, once it was updated apparently the xfce session couldnt launch properly...)
[16:24] <SiDi> _Pete_: great, your problem is software, your hardware seems to be well recognised
[16:24] <SiDi> _Pete_: please launch xfce4-mixer
[16:25] <SiDi> go into the properties, check every checkbox to allow every track to be displayed, max the volume on each of the tracks and make sure they're unmuted, please
[16:25] <SiDi> ldez: you can run jockey-gtk to activate the restricted drivers (or go to apps -> system -> hardware drivers)
[16:26] <ldez> SiDi: I was able to get my panels to come back by adding "xfce4-panel" to my autostart processes.. Is there a similar command I can run to get my desktop/icons back? Or would I be better served by putting on a fresh 8.04 installation?
[16:26] <ldez> Ah, okay I'll give that a go first.
[16:26] <SiDi> ldez: xfdesktop would help you too
[16:27] <SiDi> Could you show me a screenshot of the session in Apps -> Properties (or parameters ? I never remember) -> Session & boot
[16:28] <ldez> Sure ill grab one for you.. do you have a preferred pastebin that will hold png's or would you rather me just send you the file?
[16:29] <_Pete_> SiDi: doesent help
[16:30] <SiDi> ldez: imagebin.ca is good
[16:30] <SiDi> _Pete_: could you please run ' ps aux | grep pulse' ?
[16:30] <SiDi> And, does the mixer return any error message, or does it let you modify the volume ?
[16:31] <_Pete_> !vnc
[16:31] <SiDi> (and, make sure your hardware is plugged, we never know :])
[16:33] <_Pete_> never mind
[16:33] <_Pete_> pissed me off totally
[16:33] <_Pete_> fucking linix
[16:36] <ldez> SiDi: running xfdesktop got my desktop and icons to come back, I've added it to my autostart for now.. Here is my Session SS
[16:36] <ldez> http://imagebin.ca/view/kYv8_4.html
[16:37] <ldez> I'm going to try unchecking xfce4-panel and xfdesktop from my Autostart and see if just your Restricted Driver fix resolves it..
[16:38] <SiDi> the restricted driver prior to update should prevent the bug from happening when updating _if this is the bug that hits you_
[16:38] <SiDi> it could also be a completely different cause that triggers the bug
[16:38] <SiDi> xfce4-panel and xfdesktop should always be defined in the session, but it seems that the session somehow gets trashed x_x
[16:43] <ldez> Well it seems like I still need to leave those two processes on my Autostart, but other than that everything seems to be working fine.. Thanks a ton, SiDi.
[16:43] <SiDi> ldez: c
[16:44] <SiDi> can you please try to remove the .cache/sessions folder ?
[16:44] <SiDi> And remove xfce4-panel and xfdesktop from autostart
[16:44] <ldez> Will do
[16:47] <ldez> SiDi: You're the King, bro!
[16:48] <ldez> Everything seems right with the world now..
[17:45] <_Pete_> SiDi: solved the problem
[17:45] <_Pete_> Also have eeepc, so audio comes from that
[17:45] <SiDi> _Pete_: so what was the problem exactly ?
[17:45] <_Pete_> no idea
[17:46] <_Pete_> still not working
[17:46] <_Pete_> so it's kind of temporaly solution
[17:48] <_Pete_> is this some known problem?
[17:50] <_Pete_> also somehow the thing in upperright corner showing running prgs has dissappeared
[17:56] <SiDi> Right click on the panel and click on 'add', then add the notification area plugin
[17:56] <SiDi> and, there can be MANY reasons to sound problems
[19:35] <slow-motion> hi
[20:08] <the_beav> how do i get the standard xfce menu upon right click, instead of the ubuntu chopped right click menu?
[20:17] <TheSheep> see the desktop settings
[20:17] <TheSheep> btw, it's not ubuntu's, they are both xfce's
[20:17] <TheSheep> ah, mayfly
[20:31] <the_beav> i'm trying to get some STRAIGHT xfce, w/o ubuntu's modifications...anyone have any knowledge in this subject?
[20:38] <TheSheep> the_beav: if you keep signing off, you won't give anybody a chance
[20:38] <TheSheep> the_beav: did you try xfce.org?
[20:39] <TheSheep> the_beav: I think they have a download section
[20:39] <the_beav> TheSheep: well, i'm experimenting here...logging in and out is sometimes a must to see if they work...
[20:40] <the_beav> TheSheep, no i haven't gone with xfce.org
[20:40] <the_beav> but i certainly will try that
[20:40] <the_beav> thx
[20:40] <TheSheep> the_beav: btw, the menu question you asked before, both menus are xfce's, you can change it in the desktop settings
[20:40]  * TheSheep rolls his eyes
[23:55] <FelpsJ> How I can see if my ethenet connection is working?
[23:56] <FelpsJ> How I can see if my ethenet connection is working? (I'm connect by USB WiFi)
[23:57] <polycarbonate> you must see wlan0 in ifconfig
[23:57] <polycarbonate> if you dont you must find the driver for your wifi dapter
[23:57] <polycarbonate> *adapter
[23:58] <FelpsJ> in fact, my wifi adapter is working
[23:58] <FelpsJ> my ethernet doesnt
[23:59] <polycarbonate> i dont understand the connection between wifi and ethernet dow you have a wireless router?
[23:59] <polycarbonate> and connect using wifi adapter, thats right?
[23:59] <FelpsJ> i have a wireless/ethernet  router