[04:51] <Pavlz> Ninux Day 2009 Community Networks Meeting from 27 to 29 November 2009 to Defrag_, Rome, Italy,   http://wiki.ninux.org/NinuxDay2009en
[04:53]  * HedgeMage peeks in
[04:53] <HedgeMage> Anyone up for a game of Scrabble?
[04:54]  * HedgeMage == bored.
[05:39] <Ahmuck-Sr> hey hey
[05:44] <HedgeMage> hi, Ahmuck-Sr
[05:44] <HedgeMage> what's up?
[05:46] <Ahmuck-Sr> just chillin
[05:46] <Ahmuck-Sr> looking at upgrading the lab
[05:47] <Ahmuck-Sr> i've been a little more impressed with linux educational software holding childrens' attention
[05:51] <HedgeMage> :)
[05:51] <HedgeMage> what are your favorites?
[06:13] <Ahmuck-Sr> well, it's not mine.  it's the kids.  but gcompris seems to go over very well, as well as tux math and tux type
[06:21] <HedgeMage> Those are favorites here, as well.
[06:24] <Ahmuck-Sr> where is here?
[06:26] <HedgeMage> Illinois, USA... I do lots of computing with my son, and used to run a school computer club until it was cancelled/deferred due to politics.
[06:34] <Ahmuck-Sr> open a computer club up in your home or community room ?
[06:36] <HedgeMage> Sadly, the library is pretty anti-tech, and especially anti-open-source.  There really isn't any place else around here, and I can't afford the liability of starting a group in my home.
[07:04] <Ahmuck-Sr> sadly our librarys are anit-tech and anti-linux, but not anti-opensource
[07:04] <Ahmuck-Sr> they get scared having all those linux people in the library
[07:05] <HedgeMage> heh
[07:06] <HedgeMage> Have a good night, Ahmuck-Sr -- I'm going to try to get some sleep
[07:47] <mss> hello
[07:48] <mss> I am trying to get autologin to work on edubuntu 8.04 clients ..
[07:49] <mss> I have tried both MAC and Ip address in the lts.conf file .. but it does not work ... still get gui login ....
[07:49] <mss> anything else I need to do ?
[07:50] <mss> lts.conf
[07:50] <mss> [default]
[07:50] <mss> X_COLOR_DEPTH=16
[07:50] <mss> LDM_DIRECX=True
[07:50] <mss> X_RAMPERC=80
[07:50] <mss> [00:17:A4:F4:7C:D5]
[07:50] <mss> LDM_AUTOLOGIN=True
[07:50] <mss> LDM_USERNAME=ltsp
[07:50] <mss> LDM_PASSWORD=ltsp123
[07:50] <mss> [00:1A:4B:4B:F6:80]
[07:50] <mss> LDM_AUTOLOGIN=True
[07:50] <mss> LDM_USERNAME=ltsp001
[07:50] <mss> LDM_PASSWORD=manty10
[07:55] <alkisg> mss: get a local terminal, and see if those settings actually reach the clients
[07:55] <alkisg> To get a local terminal, you can put SCREEN_02=shell and SCREEN_07=ldm in lts.conf
[07:55] <alkisg> The command to see which settings reach the clients is: getltscfg -a
[08:02] <alkisg> (where do you keep that lts.conf, btw? in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf ?)
[08:06] <mss> yes .../var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
[08:09]  * alkisg wonders if [mac-address] sections are case-sensitive and lowercase is needed...
[08:09] <mss> well ..  am not at the terminal location ...will check and let you know ...anything else I should look for ?
[08:09] <alkisg> Still, the IPs should work
[08:10] <alkisg> Another reason for lts.conf settings not having any effect is if the filename dhcp option isn't correct
[08:10] <alkisg> The scripts work out the lts.conf path from the dhcp filename (usually /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0)
[08:11] <alkisg> So if you modified the default dhcpd.conf and it doesn't sent that filename when the client identifier is "Linux ipconfig", then lts.conf doesn't reach the clients
[08:11] <alkisg> Btw, LDM_DIRECX=True ==> LDM_DIRECTX=True
[08:12] <alkisg> A "T" missing there.
[08:12] <mss> I looked in the ldm.c source file ... in there it seems to be matching for "t" or "T" instead of "True"  ... is that fine ?
[08:13] <mss> yes ..I had corrected that DIRECTX spelling ..
[08:13] <mss> oh .. now this is connected to dhcp !
[08:13] <alkisg> "True" is fine.
[08:14] <alkisg> If you have remote access to your server, upload your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to pastebin...
[08:14] <mss> I am using dnsmasq now .. ( had problems with dhcpd being slow , problem turned out to be no hostname entries in /etc/hosts for clients resulting in very slooow dhcp response..)
[08:14] <alkisg> OK, your dnsmasq.conf then.
[08:15] <alkisg> There's a setting in dhcp3-server to not do hostname lookups, but anyway, since you're using dnsmasq, I guess your dnsmasq.conf has problems
[08:16] <alkisg> E.g. if you only send the filename for net:PXEClient, that would be the problem
[08:21] <mss> is there a sample dnsmasq.conf file ?
[08:24] <mss> I don't have remote access to server unfortunately
[08:26] <alkisg> Yes, there is one
[08:28] <alkisg> Hmmm.... I was talking about /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/dhcpd-dnsmasq, but now I see that it has the problem I'm mentioning :)
[08:28] <alkisg> So a bug report should be filed.
[08:35] <mss> I did use /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples/dhcpd-dnsmasq to create the dnsmasq.conf file...
[08:38] <alkisg> OK so that was the source of the problem
[08:38] <alkisg> The string "Linux ipconfig" should be also checked for when sending the filename
[08:49] <mss> alkisg, if it not too much trouble ....... could you let me know the corrections to be done , so I can check ?
[08:50] <alkisg> mss, *without* checking, I'd say that you need to add the line: dhcp-vendorclass=pxe,"Linux ipconfig"
[08:51] <alkisg> mss: Could you file a bug for it in launchpad? I could propose a new examples/dhcpd-dnsmasq in the bug report...
[08:53] <mss> sure .... will do ... but will look to you for help as this is the first time I would be doing it for any FOSS ....
[08:53] <alkisg> OK. Go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+filebug
[08:53] <mss> would it be a documentation bug ?
[08:53] <alkisg> I think you'll need to create a launchpad account
[08:54] <alkisg> There's no ltsp-docs package published yet, so I'd file it under ltsp...
[09:18] <mss> submitted bug
[09:18] <mss> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/428760
[09:20] <alkisg> Nice. I'll try to upload a proposed dnsmasq.conf into it later in the day.
[09:20] <alkisg> You'll be notified by email
[09:21] <mss> thanks for your help .. I will check out your suggsted changes ....
[12:13] <PreSchoolTheExpl> Anyone online?
[12:15] <PreSchoolTheExpl> I'm representing a small private preschool "company" who is interested in Edubuntu run live from USB, does anyone know of any hackers for hire? :P
[12:15] <PreSchoolTheExpl> (from Sweden)
[12:23] <PreSchoolTheExpl> anyone?
[12:28] <PreSchoolTheExpl> *sniff*
[21:41] <Ahmuck> is phun not an option to include in edubuntu offerings?
[21:48] <Ahmuck> will saybayon allw me to replicate icons across every user's desktop?
[22:27] <HedgeMage> hi, Ahmuck
[22:35] <Ahmuck> morning HedgeMage
[22:44] <HedgeMage> How are you today?
[23:57] <Ahmuck> i'm not so sleepy :)