=== Qiller[OFF] is now known as qILLER === qILLER is now known as Qiller [00:03] siegie: where is opensync-plugin-kdepim from? is it kde4 aware? [00:04] Fanfare: it depends on kdepimlibs 4.2.85, so i think so [00:05] siegie: is it a special repo? or in normal karmic repos? [00:06] Fanfare: normal karmic [00:07] hm, kdepimlibs5 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 i have on jaunty... but no OSync-kdepim... === Qiller[OFF] is now known as Qiller- [00:14] I'm looking for some software to help me back up my data to another box on my network. I see that there are quite a few backup utilities in the repository... does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? [00:14] Please tell me why you would recommend one over the other if you do. [00:14] I'm just looking to keep a remote copy of my home directory on a remote (kubuntu) machine. [00:16] jinzougen: so u dont need a full blown backup-server thingy, but also dont want to write your own scrips... [00:16] jinzougen: try backup-manager, some simple config, and runs via cron [00:16] I could, but I figured they made software specifically for this purpose, so why not take advantage of it. [00:17] jinzougen: you could try http://one.ubuntu.com [00:17] hmm. Would rather not have it be a cron job. I'm backing up a laptop and I'm not necessarily on my network on a regular schedule. [00:19] madberry: looks like an online backup...? [00:19] jinzougen: no need to have it cron, its just default. [00:19] Fanfare: Backup and sync. backintime might also be an option [00:22] madberry: did u use on.ubuntu.org yet? [00:22] Fanfare: Not yet I still have to set it up. Prob. will later today. [00:23] i wionder if they hold complete /home/ online ? how many space do they offer? [00:24] 2GB for free or an account with 10GB for $10 a month [00:25] madberry: ok, 2gb is fine for free... but what about security? interesting anyway... [00:26] Fanfare: I'm not sure about security which is why I'll be checking it out. === Qiller- is now known as Qiller [00:28] madberry: :-) guess there are still some plain passwords in /home//.* files ... [00:29] Fanfare: Yeah true. I'm sure Ubuntu has a TOS some where for One [00:31] We promise to only use your personal information to get rich. once it becomes filthy rich we will abstain from doing it anymore [00:31] alteroo: lol [00:51] Does anyone here play " Quake Wars " [00:52] jinzougen- dunno if you've found anything, but I just use rdiff-backup as a cron job. There are probably some Gnome frontends for it, though I'm not sure about KDE (Keep was good, but it isn't maintained anymore) [01:03] anyone know if a round floppy ide cable serves for a hard driver? [01:08] Zuz|Kubuntu: FDD's and HDD's use different cables === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y [01:19] good afternoon === light is now known as Guest52194 [01:20] is it possible to tell where it is defined that when my laptop is unplugged and the screen closed, it logs out of KDE (9.04) ? it is not in the power management thing in the system tray; that is telling me that it will just go to powersave and DO NOTHING when the screen is closed. [01:21] tzanger- System Settings -> Advanced -> Power Management maybe [01:22] aha [01:22] why on earth is that different than what's in the system tray?? [01:22] Beats me [01:23] oh wait, it's transitioning to agressive powersave apparently [01:24] either that or it's thinking the battery is reaching critical levels [01:24] very strange, but thank you, I'll play with this some more [01:24] is there any way to see this in a log (what it's doing and why) ? [01:25] Dunno [01:43] i have kde 64 bit and though it says it is installed flash plaYER is not [02:30] I'm connected to my WLAN but my connection I created in Network Settings / Network Mgmt says "Never Used"? [02:31] v 9.04 [02:31] actually Last USed Field says "Never".....? [02:33] anybody know why. or is this version's network utilities just buggy? [02:37] How can I enable a Firewall for my WLAN Network connection? [02:38] !firewall [02:38] Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist [02:39] thanks xtreme [02:42] could someone help with some akonadi errors in kde 4.3.1 please http://pastebin.ca/1563777 [02:43] since akonadi was introduced, it has always behaved this way [02:43] for me [02:43] I think I am missing a driver or drivers that akonadi needs === mirco_ is now known as mirco [02:53] whats the deal with konqueror? its not ready to be a default web browser [02:54] its messed up with yahoo email and myspace pages [02:58] zaccour: i have no probs with myspace... [02:59] zaccour: sry, wron i mean facebook... [03:01] hi guys [03:01] Hello === Serpardum is now known as Serpam [03:03] you know a windows switcher ?? [03:03] quit [03:04] pablin_: alt+tab? [03:06] yes [03:07] well, the idea is saw a windows [03:14] quit tonight [03:14] quiet i meant [03:39] i m Not able to send file from Kubuntu to my mobile using bluetooth.i m using KBluetooth4 which came pre installed.pls help [03:40] any tutorial for 9.04 installation? i got the CD now [03:42] pencil, it's in the messages https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ [03:43] i m Not able to send file from my laptop to my mobile using bluetooth.i m using KBluetooth4 which came pre installed.pls help [03:47] I am trying to install xampp on my ubuntu, but it makes like 1000 error [03:47] http://www.apachefriends.org/fr/xampp-linux.html#1044 === ubuntu is now known as lenina [04:07] Hello. [04:09] I recently installed kubuntu 9.04 amd64, and wanted to grab KDE 4.3, so I added it so my sources and tried to install it, but it gave me a bunch of errors and froze, so when I rebooted it would go through the splash screen and only show akondi (?) loading, and then it will throw an error and I have to reboot. I booted into recovery but found that trying to fix the broken packages doesn't work. [04:10] It was a new installation so reinstall wouldn't be a problem, but I just don't want to waste that much time. Any other options? [04:13] how do I kill applications? [04:14] ps -A [04:14] then kill [pid] [04:14] or just killall [appname] [04:14] if it won't die from that, try kill -9 [04:16] it isn't doing it. [04:17] try kill -9 [pid] [04:39] test [04:41] yahoo.com doesn't support the latest KDE browser? === obama is now known as vorian [04:45] hi all.. got a quick question, that i can't seem to find an answer on google. I have an acer aspire 1 using jaunty, and after quitting kismet, i can't get my wifi back. [04:46] i've read the read-me and all that from kismet's site, and kismet runs fine [04:46] anyone have a fix for this? [04:51] Ninux Day 2009 Community Networks Meeting from 27 to 29 November 2009 to Defrag_, Rome, Italy, http://wiki.ninux.org/NinuxDay2009en [05:09] good nite evryone [05:10] how do i stop linux from trying to veryfy the hdd for any defects?it keep looking for defects every time i put on the pc or restart and allways fails [05:10] so i want to stop it from checking the hdd [06:05] hi [06:08] Anybody here using blueman [06:08] Anybody here using blueman, pls help === ruben is now known as Guest33039 [07:22] hi [07:22] hi [07:24] hola cajabo aztec [07:24] hola cajabo aztec [07:49] <_genuser_> Hello People. [07:49] <_genuser_> I am having an issue in kubuntu mounting something. It says wrong fs type. [07:50] <_genuser_> normally, I just say mount and it works. [07:50] <_genuser_> in xubuntu it works fine. [08:02] Can anyone tell me how to get MP3 support for audiocd:// ? [08:06] yay, a channel with 228 idlers, exactly what I was hoping for :p [08:13] ChrisMir: Install restricted extras [08:16] robin0800: restricted extra is active. I do have MP3 support, amarok is working etc. It is just that MP3 is not showing with audiocd:// [08:17] FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, Full CD etc are showing, but no MP3 [08:17] ChrisMir: cd's are not usually mp3's they are cda's [08:18] robin0800: I know that. You probably don't understand the audiocd:// kio_plugin I'm refereing to? [08:19] ChrisMir: try gnome restricted exstras too [08:19] robin0800: audiocd:// plugin shows different views of an audio cd. MP3 is usually included, so one can easily rip a cd. [08:19] No thank you :p [08:21] ChrisMir: there was an update to amarok yesterday perhaps something broke [08:26] ive installed Kubuntu only recently and am having some problems with my graphics card. Im running an Acer Aspire 6530, AMD Turion X2, ATI Radeon 3200HD, 4GB RAM. It seems that every time I install the 2nd amount of updates, when I restart the Boot loader freezes and shows lines and blotches. This is my 4th attempt at an install... [08:27] And I should also mention, I'm a complete n00b at this. [08:31] robin0800: problem fixed. lame libs were installed, but not the lame front-end. sudo apt-get install lame did the trick :) thx for your time [08:32] iCub: there is a bug in grub 2 and ati cards [08:32] robin0800: is there a way around the bug or a fix? [08:33] icub if youve got a n alternatve cd yes [08:33] robin0800: what alternative CD? [08:34] iCub: a kde one not the live cd [08:34] Hm. [08:35] How do i get a hold of one? I'm guessing order it via the net or buy one. [08:35] iCub: download it [08:36] i take it you mean the Text based installer... [08:37] iCub: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download and click the checkbox under the start download button [08:43] iCub: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ [08:43] iCub: choose the alternate cd === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [08:56] hello [08:58] ô [09:02] i want to ask whay my ubuntu 9.04 doesn't recognise my ATI video card in xorg.conf but the "lspci | grep VGA" gives me the right answer [09:02] any idea ? [09:03] in xorg.conf, it says "Configured Video Divice" [09:04] robin0800: are you sure this will work? [09:04] i already have Kubuntu installed. [09:04] why do i need to install it again [09:04] :s === adeline is now known as Alf_Ref [09:07] whay my ubuntu 9.04 doesn't recognise my ATI video card in xorg.conf but the "lspci | grep VGA" gives me the right answer [09:07] I have the same problem yuanmin [09:07] Turns out Grub2 has a problem with ATI GFX. [09:08] XD [09:08] Somehow running the text based installer will work, or so I've been told anyways [09:09] lol [09:09] how can i know which version it is adapt with my video card? [09:11] iCub: no it wont but it will give you a method to fix it [09:11] yuanmin: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ati-linux-video-driver-9-8-now-supports-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty.html [09:12] ok ive downloaded it and burned it to CD [09:12] iCub: and anyway the alternate cd is not by default text based [09:13] so is there any particular menu i need to go into? [09:13] this is my only running machine atm :/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:18] salve [09:18] ciao a tutti [09:18] !lista [09:18] This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [09:29] robin0800: so is there any particular menu i need to go into? [09:29] this is my only running machine atm :/ [09:29] the rescue one [09:34] здрасте! [09:40] toc === administrateur is now known as antotojo === slawek is now known as slawek__ [10:31] Hi, I need some help. I havea swedish keyboard layout. And the key combination ctrl+alt+2 should input an At sign (the email sign thingy), but it doesnt. However all other things on the keyboard work fine, including the swedish ÅÄÖ [10:32] In fact there are several signs that require a ctrl+alt+number combination like the dollar sign, brackets backslash, and so on [10:32] But none of them work [10:33] try just control 2 [10:33] or shift 2.... [10:33] Nope, doesnt work [10:33] " [10:33] nope again [10:33] hm. [10:33] and you're sure you have your keyboad set correctly? [10:34] swedish, yupp [10:34] well. [10:34] hate to say it but... [10:34] i dont know :s [10:35] Lol [10:35] ok [10:35] thanks anyway [10:37] Whats this "cube" thing Ive heard so much about? I just got Linux, I have no idea what it is [10:39] CPU-consuming gimmick :P [10:40] Well I'd ask this: You have a swedish keyboard and set that as the layout in Linux? [10:40] If it's what I think you mean, they put multiple desktops on a cube. [10:41] I would try playing with the layout settings in configuration... === vincent is now known as Guest43116 === kb is now known as Guest66199 === gordo is now known as Slayermmr [11:07] have kubuntu something similar as ubuntu sessions preferences? [11:29] hey anybody knows how to add to and delete item from Grub2? === anton is now known as Tosh^^ [11:34] what is the graphical partition manager using the kubuntu live cd ? [11:41] kparted?? [11:42] mostafa_: /boot/grub either menu.lst or grub.cfg depending on the version [11:47] Spaceman: no, not that one, gparted or qtparted is also not on the disk === kb is now known as Guest80220 [11:49] #kubuntu.de [11:49] !de [11:49] In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [11:50] hi can someone help me, i have no sound [11:50] hi all, i can see that my webcam is working in kopete config but cannot find a way to enable it during chat. can you help? (i don't find any option or toolbar button) [11:51] where do you chat? [11:52] i mean what client? [11:52] kopete? [11:52] philipp__: me? [11:52] yes you [11:52] i did specify the client is kopete. [11:53] and protocol is msn [11:54] on moment [11:55] ok thanks [11:56] do you have svn? [11:57] what kopete version do you have? [11:58] philipp__: kubuntu's 9.04 one [11:58] 0.70.4 [12:00] ok go to preference [12:01] philipp__: ok [12:01] sorry I'm german and go to the last point i don't know whats this in english [12:01] hey [12:02] can someone say me where i can found a mps encorder for audiacity? [12:02] mp3* [12:03] philipp__: extensions? [12:03] yes [12:03] ok [12:03] ? [12:03] i think thats right [12:03] which one? [12:03] and now go to video [12:04] philipp__: so you mean preferences --> video ? [12:04] i can see the webcam works there. but there's no way to start it in chat windows. [12:04] ah good [12:05] ah you can't inivte someone? [12:05] nope [12:06] philipp__: thanks for help. i need to go now. shower and food. [12:09] ok [12:28] can someone help me, i have no sound in vlc and rythmbox [12:30] do you have any other sounds? [12:30] are the speakers switched on and plugged in etc [12:32] hi from spain [12:35] Spaceman: have you installed restricted extras [13:22] .. === christian is now known as Guest41912 [13:23] upgraded to 4.3 from backports. after reboot plasma is not starting [13:26] video device driver? [13:26] intel [13:26] everythng worked in 4.2 [13:27] even get error when trying to start it manually [13:28] think kwin is not running either [13:59] !kdepim [13:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about kdepim === tommy is now known as Guest20099 [14:03] bonjour [14:03] czes quoi ceux soft un chat === Guest20099 is now known as tommy_the-dragon [14:05] hola peña, alguien habla cristiano? [14:09] Hi, I have a question. I just came off of Ubuntu and when I run Pidgin here on Kubuntu and press the X it turns it off, where as in Ubuntu it minimized it to a kind of tray. Does Kubuntu not have a tray like that? [14:11] Raz1: it does in karmic [14:11] whats karmic? :P [14:11] the development version due out in october [14:11] Oooh, so I just gotta wait? :P [14:12] yes although Pidgin ought to be clever enough to do the right thing [14:12] Salve! [14:12] maybe there's a config option to turn off message indiactor [14:12] or you could just use Kopete === utente is now known as Angela [14:12] But Pidgin is better :P [14:13] Scusate mi potete indicare come passare ad un canale su Azzurra_? [14:14] Ma questo canale è abitato? [14:19] Is there a GUI ISO mounter? [14:21] when will be avaliable the next alfa/beta of kubuntu 9.10 ? [14:22] !iso [14:22] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [14:22] !mount [14:22] Partitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter [14:26] Hi folks. [14:26] Converter for avi to 3gp [14:26] when will be avaliable the next alfa/beta of kubuntu 9.10 ? [14:26] Anyone in Indianapolis? [14:27] hi mount is not working for me: sudo mount -o loop /home/fnord/Alone in the Dark 4/Alone.In.The.Dark.4.cd1.ISO /home/fnord/Desktop/iso [14:27] all im getting is the mount helpo screen [14:28] MeowKItten: escape the spaces in the path with \ [14:28] anyone have a solution on how to start plasma in kde4.3?? after upgrading using backports reposittory it is not starting. neither is kwin as far as i can tell [14:29] fnord@fnord-desktop:~$ sudo mount -o loop /home/fnord/Alone/in/the/Dark/4/Alone.In.The.Dark.4.cd1.ISO /home/fnord/Desktop/iso [14:29] /home/fnord/Alone/in/the/Dark/4/Alone.In.The.Dark.4.cd1.ISO: No such file or directory [14:29] MeowKItten: /home/fnord/Alone\ in\ the\ Dark\ 4/Alone.In.The.Dark.4.cd1.ISO [14:30] MeowKItten: or you can just enclose in quotes - > "/home/fnord/Alone in the Dark 4/Alone.In.The.Dark.4.cd1.ISO" [14:31] MeowKItten: also, it helps to use tab completeion, you should be able to type /home/fnord/Alone and hit the tab key, that will complete the rest of the path [14:44] hiyas [14:45] Heya === root is now known as Guest64549 [14:51] . [14:51] hello [14:55] IM having a bit of trouble adding XP to my Grub menu can anyone help [14:55] yusuo: pastebin your menu.lst [14:55] the problem being is that im getting an error when adding it manually [14:56] i added it to ubuntuforums.org james [14:56] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7942178#post7942178 === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [14:58] yusuo: i think hd1,0 links to sdb1 windows looks to be on sdc1 so try hd2,0 [14:58] k be back in a minute just try that [15:00] anyone that knows on what server runs this ? [15:00] i know i m off topic [15:00] James147: linux order isn't the same as grub ones, so he'll have to try 0 if 2 still doesn't work. But using the grub's commandline should be enough: you can do something like ls (hd0) to read the partition table, and so find if it's the right drive [15:00] Guest64549: freenode you mean ? [15:00] irc server [15:00] i want to make one :) [15:01] make=install [15:01] Guest64549: read MOTD. [15:01] thanks [15:02] phh: ls is unreconized in grub prompt, at least for me :S [15:04] james147 now im just getting Starting up and nothing happens [15:05] i am using karmic, i see a little envelop in my systray, what does it mean ? [15:06] pvandewyngaerde_: its an indicator appalet [15:07] yes, but i can not do anythin with it [15:08] pvandewyngaerde_: in ubuntu at least it works with email and konversation [15:10] yusuo: hmm, seems like grub has problems loading windows if its not on the first hd, try what the second post says on that link you gave [15:12] i have kde 64 bit and though it says it is installed flash plaYER it is not working [15:15] hello === anonymus is now known as hui_zhe === yaa_ is now known as anonymus [15:27] hi, i'm looking for an app. that can connect via serial line [15:31] Ejdesgaard|: you mean a serial analogue modem? [15:34] Lacsap, i have a db9 cable from my net-5501-70 to my laptop and need to configure it through that cable, the boud rate it 38400... [15:39] Ejdesgaard|: sorry, I can't help you :( [15:46] hello [15:47] !hi [15:47] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [15:49] so my notifications look like crap after upgrading to kde4.3 in the backports repository. any idea what to do about that? http://larsemil.dalnix.se/notifications.png [15:52] maybe it is the theame desktop theame larsemil [15:52] The requested URL /notifications.png was not found on this server. [15:52] hmm [15:52] btw that url she's a no work [15:53] http://larsemil.dalnix.se/notification.png [15:56] i would try right click>desktop setting>theame try a different one or download some. i had oxygen and did not like it. but i have so few notifications. (i usually turn most off) [15:56] there are more transparent ones. i think you casn adjust the size but maybe... let me look [15:57] cuznt: tried three different and still the same [15:57] heh [15:57] yes they do [15:57] i just turn 2 on.... [15:57] very large and blocking.... right>? [15:58] they are white and squary and look lile something from the 90s [15:59] i think the color depends on the theame. mine are more ghrey [15:59] downloaded new ones and they still look the same [16:00] well did you see my screenshot? someone over att kde said that was a gnome notification and i wonder how they got there... [16:07] i did... but i can help sorry. you can just turn them off. [16:07] for each app or entirely [16:08] !notifications [16:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about notifications [16:09] http://pastebin.ca/1564275 [16:09] thats how to turn them all off [16:09] pastepin rocks imo === john is now known as Guest71805 [16:23] Hello everyone [16:23] Hello, I am unable to make pulseaudio running, could anyone help? I use kubuntu jaunty, amd64, kernel 2.6.28-15-server, output of --debug is on http://pastebin.com/f6edf601d [16:23] I do not know why the daemon dose not start, but I suspect some problem with capabilities === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:25] I have this problem, I'm connected to a WIFI lan which provides me the internet, then, when I connect the computer to a eth intranet (with no conection to the internet) it tries to get internet from there (it doesn't disconnect) and I can access no websites [16:25] rcm: for diagnostics: paste on pastebin output of ifconfig and route -n [16:25] mm [16:26] the problem here is that right now i'm not connected to the eth, 'cause I can no get internet from there [16:26] but wait a minute [16:26] rcm: np [16:27] c [16:28] lukas__ here http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/1te0hIraQ [16:31] are there any good kde web browsers? === h is now known as Guest50487 [16:32] lukas__ anything? === ubuntu is now known as lenina [16:32] zaccour: firefox [16:33] rcm: do you have DHCP enabled on both? [16:33] yes [16:33] robin0800, if i'm using mozilla it would have to be epiphany. firefox is too buggy [16:33] lukas __ the idea is to serve internet to another computers from this one [16:33] zaccour: seems alright here [16:34] rcm: the strange thing is the 169 network [16:34] it was added on your own? [16:34] is there a KNR? [16:34] zaccour: KNR? [16:34] i meant Kubuntu Netbook Remix [16:34] zaccour: ah, ok [16:34] How to use zwamp memory? [16:35] lukas__ yeah, but that network is still there now [16:35] so I guess that not the problem [16:35] rcm: I would try /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart [16:35] i have installed skype and connected my usb headset, then started skype from konsole with the following cmd: "skype &" without quotes. when i try to call someone, i get the following error in my onsole: ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1569:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) [16:36] hedin: do you use bluetooth headset? [16:36] How To Use Swap Memory? [16:36] no, usb [16:36] hedin: well, so is it started twice? [16:36] rcm: paste the route -n after the commend [16:36] simon__: what do you mean? [16:37] simon__: you can not use it? [16:37] I do not know what it is! [16:37] lukas__ there http://paste.ideaslabs.com/show/URms4tqEA9 [16:37] is there a way to get visualizations back in Kaffeine? [16:38] simon__: well, you have RAM and swap, RAM is fast memory on your board, swap is used to use disc if RAM is not sufficient [16:38] lukas__: no, it's only startet once [16:38] hedin: try ps aux |grep skype and paste the results [16:39] hedin: have you tried to configure your audio? [16:39] ok! so that swich Auto? or must i splitt my harddrive? [16:39] Or manualy i mean! [16:39] lukas__: http://dpaste.com/93058/ [16:40] rcm: strange, do you have something in /etc/network/interfaces ? [16:40] no, how do i configure it? [16:40] should i use karmic alpha kubuntu or stick with kurrent one? [16:40] lukas__ nop [16:40] simon__: there are several possibilities - you can use separate partition or a file [16:40] yes intentional typo on the k [16:41] OK! How do i make a file? [16:42] does anyone recommend karmic alpha kubuntu right now? [16:42] simon__: for separate partition you need to create partition (on some disc), then mkswap and swapon , then modify the /etc/fstab and it will be kept after reboot [16:42] zaccour: running it on my laptop [16:42] James147, is it pretty stable? [16:43] hi all, I need help about pulseaudio in 9.04 [16:43] zaccour: I havent had many problems with it [16:43] rcm: well, if you need it to serve as server (transmit the access to internet), then I would suggest skipping the NetworkManager and use usual configs [16:44] can i use gyachi with kde? [16:44]