[00:19] <dashua> SiDi, Got it :)
[00:21] <SiDi> knome: piiiing
[00:21] <knome> yes?
[00:22]  * dashua is looking at the bluejay code
[00:22] <SiDi> its yours
[00:22] <SiDi> i just began changing stuff in the menu
[00:22] <dashua> Hehe, looks familiar
[00:22] <SiDi> knome wanna rewrite it all from a murrine gtkrc, but i is too lazy for that
[00:23] <knome> hah
[00:23] <knome> i don't specifically want to do that, but i think we need options.
[00:23] <knome> i want to see what we can achieve with alvaro and then maybe rewrite it.
[00:24] <dashua> Cimi just pushed an option to murrine to color the scale and progressbar troughs with bg[ACTIVE]
[00:24] <dashua> Looks pretty nice
[00:24] <SiDi> i love gtk's consistent use of the style properties for widgets
[00:24] <SiDi> i think gtk sucks a lot actually :D
[00:25] <SiDi> (for theming i mean)
[00:25] <kwwii> SiDi: no documentation about either xsplash or gdm but I can give you all the info once I have it
[00:25] <dashua> It does, so where the limits are is where it's nice for pixmaps
[00:25] <SiDi> kwwii: that would be extremely appreciated
[00:25] <kwwii> SiDi: I will have to implement it
[00:26] <knome> kwwii, could you please send that information directly to the xubuntu-devel list?
[00:26] <SiDi> apparently for gdm we managed to get almost everything themed (apart from the bg) but for xsplash we know nothing
[00:26] <kwwii> trust me, I have all other variants in mind
[00:26] <knome> kwwii, i trust you, but it would be damn handy to get it in the mailing list. :)
[00:26] <SiDi> yeh
[00:26] <SiDi> might help convince cody that xsplash is cool ? :P
[00:27] <kwwii> knome: not sure if I can do that, but I can make it really clear on a lot of lists that it is so ;)
[00:27] <kwwii> or, send me an email reminding me to do so ;)
[00:27] <knome> your mail?
[00:27] <kwwii> I don't have that list in my head
[00:28] <dashua> SiDi, knome: Are you using gnome-brave or elementary for icons?
[00:28] <knome> dashua, gnome-brace or humanity.
[00:28] <knome> *brave
[00:28] <dashua> Ok
[00:29] <knome> kwwii, what's your mail addy? :P
[00:29] <kwwii> kwwii at ubuntu.com canonical.com sinecera.de bootsplash.org
[00:29] <knome> do you want it in all of those?
[00:29] <knome> ;)
[00:29] <kwwii> :p
[00:30] <knome> sent a reminder message
[00:30] <knome> do you want some cron-scheduled once-in-an-hour messages?
[00:30] <knome> ;)
[00:31] <kwwii> if I mentioned the rest, you would think I like kde more than gnome/ubuntu so I will leave it as is
[00:31] <SiDi> knome: the reason #2 for not using gnome-brave is its scalable/apps folder
[00:31] <SiDi> who the *** do they think they are to override exaile and inkscape icons with dinosaur ones ?
[00:31] <knome> SiDi, what was the reason #1?
[00:31] <kwwii> knome: oh, yes...I don't get enough spam as it is
[00:31] <SiDi> dashua: i definately want to use an humanity based theme
[00:31] <SiDi> knome: the fireworks media icons :D
[00:31] <knome> kwwii, ;)
[00:32] <kwwii> time for sleep here, you know you to get a hold of me
[00:32] <kwwii>  :p
[00:32] <knome> good night kenneth
[00:32] <dashua> SiDi, Ok, then elementary right, the blue version of Humanity?
[00:32] <SiDi> good night kwwii :)
[00:32] <kwwii> night all
[00:32] <dashua> kwwii, Nite.
[00:33] <SiDi> i think we could use Elementary yeh
[00:33] <SiDi> would avoid an huge recoloring work
[00:33] <SiDi> and then add our own icons here & there when needed
[00:33] <SiDi> knome: ?
[00:33] <dashua> I was messing with some bluish versions of Alvaro and gnome-carbonite looked really good
[00:34] <dashua> Not blue though, dark grey
[00:34] <dashua> The folders anyway.
[00:34] <SiDi> do you have a link ?
[00:34] <SiDi> google doesnt find it
[00:34] <knome> SiDi, ugh?
[00:34] <knome> SiDi, so elementary is a blue version of humanity?
[00:35] <SiDi> knome: Elementary comes from the same author
[00:35] <SiDi> but i think he works mostly on humanity now
[00:35] <dashua> Humanity is really an orange version of elementary
[00:35] <kwwii> knome: thanks for the email, I will send the info asap
[00:35] <knome> i remember him sending email to the xub devel list after jaunty
[00:35] <knome> kwwii, no problem :)
[00:35] <kwwii> dashua: exactly
[00:35] <knome> who is he, btw?
[00:36]  * dashua enjoys The Beatles remasters :)
[00:36] <knome> dashua, are they significantly better than the original?
[00:37] <SiDi> DanRabbit
[00:37] <dashua> Oh my, YES!
[00:37] <SiDi> he's often in #ayatana
[00:37] <knome> dashua, so how to convince my mother on that? :P
[00:37] <dashua> They sound absolutely incredible
[00:37] <SiDi> http://www.mail-archive.com/xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/msg06659.html
[00:37] <dashua> The set comes with the mono versions too
[00:37] <kwwii> knome: to be honest, you should ask martin pitt about the changes
[00:37] <knome> gosh
[00:37] <kwwii> he is the one who knows
[00:37] <kwwii> pitti is his nick
[00:37] <knome> i know
[00:37] <SiDi> dashua: i thught about the programming language, i was like wtf mono beatles ?
[00:38] <dashua> Haha
[00:38] <kwwii> then again, I work with him, so I can gather the info and get it to you as well
[00:38] <knome> dashua, that comment makes me want them.
[00:38] <knome> kwwii, well..
[00:38] <kwwii> anyway, goodnight
[00:38] <dashua> They sound really really good
[00:38] <knome> night kwwii
[00:38] <dashua> And the integrity is well maintained
[00:39] <knome> gosh
[00:39] <knome> it's expensive!
[00:39] <dashua> Amazon has the entire set for $179 USD
[00:39] <knome> to be honest, i don't like beatles that much.
[00:39] <knome> i like them, but not that much.
[00:39] <knome> but hearing it is really great and knowing it's a collection with *everything* makes me want it
[00:40] <dashua> You can just grab your favorites too
[00:40] <dashua> Sgt. Peppers is a must have
[00:40] <knome> i know, but that's not quite the same.
[00:40] <dashua> It's pretty huge here.  People are raving over it
[00:40] <knome> right.
[00:41] <dashua> That and the game, which I haven't picked up yet
[00:41] <knome> i think i need to convince my mother to buy that *FOR ME*
[00:41] <knome> ;P
[00:41] <dashua> That is a great gift.
[00:41] <knome> she actually asked today if i wanted her to buy me a wii and beatles rock band
[00:41] <dashua> Oh nice.
[00:42]  * SiDi whispers the words 'icon theme' discretely
[00:42] <knome> SiDi, no, there is not remastered beatles icon set.
[00:42] <knome> *no
[00:43] <dashua> For the theme, you want to just keep the menubar dark, not the toolbar?
[00:44] <dashua> Pretty much Alvaro tweaked out with a Xubuntu appeal and feel to it.
[00:44] <knome> if there is no problems in making the toolbar dark, i don't see why we couldn't do it.
[00:44] <knome> dashua, are you subscribed to the xubuntu dev ML so you can send a mail there quickly?
[00:45] <dashua> knome, Not yet.  Let me subscribe.
[00:45] <SiDi> dashua: we want to do 2 versions
[00:45] <SiDi> a "light" one with a light panel / title bar to go with our default xfwm
[00:45] <SiDi> and a one that is alvaro but in blue
[00:45] <SiDi> knome: agree ? :P
[00:45] <knome> dashua, okay, great.
[00:46] <knome> SiDi, i have to think about this and digest it first.
[00:46] <knome> SiDi, so the dark one would also have a dark toolbar?
[00:46] <SiDi> it would have a light toolbar
[00:46] <SiDi> just as alvaro
[00:47] <SiDi> its why its an albatross, its black only on the top side :D
[00:47] <knome> let me look again at alvaro
[00:47] <dashua> knome, subscribed
[00:48] <knome> dashua, good. we're having this artwork discussion there and if you don't mind, you could take part in it once we start sending more mails about it
[00:48] <knome> i want the artwork to work well with the gtk theme
[00:48] <knome> and possibly the alvaro xfwm theme
[00:48] <knome> dashua, the archives with all the karmic-artwork related messages is here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2009-September/thread.html
[00:48] <dashua> Ok np.
[00:49] <SiDi> http://imagebin.ca/img/1c4yPLw.png
[00:49] <knome> SiDi, can you provide a screenshot where the toolbar is active (eg. it has some text/icons in it)?
[00:51] <SiDi> http://imagebin.ca/img/pS7HEMJ.png
[00:51] <SiDi> im not convinced by all elementary icons
[00:51] <knome> what if it were black? dashua, have you tried that?
[00:51] <knome> me neither
[00:51] <SiDi> but i dont like the tango-isme of gnome brave much
[00:51] <SiDi> and the elementary icons' shape ROCK
[00:51] <SiDi> the update manager icon is so sexy too
[00:52] <knome> that's the reason we were not migrating to elementary right after jaunty despite that mail
[00:52] <SiDi> black toolbars bring more problems with some apps, they mean more maintenance
[00:52] <knome> SiDi, i know.
[00:52] <dashua> Ha, that xfwm looks better than the metacity
[00:52] <SiDi> and alvaro's light grey toolbar gradient provides a good contrast
[00:52] <SiDi> dashua: :D
[00:52] <knome> what about making the toolbar slightly darker?
[00:54] <SiDi> might be me who sucks with gtk theming but it looks bad when the grey is darker
[00:55] <knome> can i see ?
[00:55] <dashua> SiDi, Right.
[00:55] <dashua> The gradients are not as pronounced.
[00:55] <dashua> I already messed with that.
[00:57] <SiDi> http://imagebin.ca/img/BIkp9-1q.png
[00:57] <knome> oh, THAT'S the toolbar
[00:57] <knome> roflmao
[00:57] <knome> what's the one in the bottom? :P
[00:58] <knome> (just make the toolbar as it was)
[00:58] <SiDi> statusbar ?
[00:58] <knome> yeah.
[00:58] <knome> :D
[00:58] <knome> can we make that dark?
[00:58] <SiDi> hm, let me see
[01:01] <SiDi> wont work very well with gedit and ... exaile
[01:01] <knome> lol
[01:01] <knome> can i see? :P
[01:02] <SiDi> exaile has planned to switch to a proper GtkStatusBar for 0.3.1 tho
[01:02] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/24515/screenshot_qr4zp7.png
[01:03] <knome> that's the bar below statusbar?
[01:03] <knome> :)
[01:03] <knome> or ehm
[01:03] <dashua> That's gnome-carbonite
[01:03] <knome> right
[01:03] <dashua> Matches pretty good with the scrollbar
[01:03] <SiDi> I cant find how to colorize the text
[01:04] <knome> SiDi, what if you only make it slightly darker?
[01:05] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/24516/screenshot_006_O06J4x.png
[01:05] <dashua> SiDi, knome: This blue too washed?
[01:06] <SiDi> http://imagebin.ca/view/Qei6gOl.html
[01:06] <SiDi> dashua: see that blue : http://imagebin.ca/img/1c4yPLw.png :D
[01:06] <SiDi> i love it
[01:07] <SiDi> yours is cool too but yeah, i find it too washed
[01:07] <knome> SiDi, less dark
[01:07] <SiDi> knome: ?
[01:07] <knome> let me see
[01:07] <knome> SiDi, GOSH NOT YOUR BLUE AT LEAST
[01:07] <knome> ;)
[01:08] <knome> where did my inkscape go?
[01:08] <SiDi> Meeeeh knome ;P
[01:08] <dashua> SiDi, Real quick.  Why does notify-osd sometimes not display the cover art?
[01:08] <dashua> Even if it there in the player.
[01:08] <dashua> it's*
[01:09] <SiDi> dashua: hm i think it's a NO issue with some files with a particular ratio
[01:09] <knome> dashua, i think that blue looks damn good on top of the wallpaper
[01:09] <SiDi> dashua: you should report, i'll set to confirmed, i had some cases too
[01:10] <SiDi> please provide these covers too :]
[01:10] <dashua> knome, Yeah.  I'm digging this and that is big could I never use blue =/
[01:10] <knome> just a moment
[01:10] <knome> i'll export this...
[01:10] <dashua> SiDi, Ok, i'll report it.
[01:10] <knome> some lah
[01:10] <knome> *
[01:10] <knome> !!
[01:10] <knome> LAG
[01:11] <dashua> SiDi, I think it certain resolutions of pictures that do it.
[01:11] <dashua> Have to pin point it.
[01:11] <SiDi> http://imagebin.ca/view/TdRr6zNO.html
[01:11] <dashua> it's*
[01:11] <knome> http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/9.10/Mockups/06-hires-withwindow.png
[01:12] <knome> oops, the window is a bit strecthed
[01:12] <knome> but you get the point anyawy
[01:12] <knome> SiDi, ^
[01:12] <knome> the colors really play well togeter
[01:12] <knome> +h
[01:13] <SiDi> yep, they do
[01:13] <knome> dashua, let's keep that color. :)
[01:13] <SiDi> btw, knome, do you agree that the navigation icons could be blue, grey, yellow, pink, but definately not green ? :D
[01:13] <knome> no, i can't agree on that
[01:13] <SiDi> because of pink ?
[01:13] <knome> but i'm open to all other opinions also.
[01:14] <knome> no, they can be green also
[01:14] <SiDi> that looks weird to me
[01:14] <knome> they can't be purple
[01:14] <knome> :P
[01:14] <SiDi> there never was green in the palette
[01:14] <knome> but if we make them blue, it's too blue
[01:14] <knome> green is a damn refreshing thing in that img
[01:14] <knome> i like it.
[01:15] <SiDi> alright, lets say the blue jay hit a tree by accident and kept some leaves attached
[01:15] <knome> haha
[01:15] <knome> sure
[01:15] <knome> ;)
[01:15] <dashua> knome, Ok.
[01:15] <SiDi> dashua: knome i let you work on the albatross (dark one) then, feel free to set a branch
[01:16] <dashua> I think it matches well with the toolbar gradient
[01:16] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/24517/screenshot_007_k6po7P.png
[01:16] <dashua> SiDi, Ok np.
[01:16] <knome> dashua, yeah. is that the "default" alvaro toolbar grad?
[01:16] <dashua> Yep.
[01:16] <knome> in that cropped picture, it looks a bit weird
[01:17] <dashua> You're not going to get the trough background
[01:17] <dashua> That is in murrine trunk
[01:18] <knome> you mean transparent something?
[01:18] <knome> or what do you mean :)
[01:18] <dashua> The grey background behind the progressbar and scale
[01:18] <knome> sorry, i think i am a bit unfocused and somewhat can't changet that thing now :P
[01:19] <knome> oh
[01:19] <knome> that's fine
[01:19] <dashua> Ok.
[01:19] <knome> i now meant the toolbar as in toolbar. :)
[01:19] <knome> that gradient just looked a bit weird, don't know why
[01:20] <dashua> Yeah, I haven't touched that.
[01:20] <dashua> Same as the original
[01:20] <knome> okay
[01:20] <knome> it looks good on the non-cut screenshots though.
[01:20] <knome> SiDi, ?
[01:21] <dashua> Ok, yeah it's the same. Just cropped.
[01:22] <knome> yep.
[01:22] <SiDi> y?
[01:22] <knome> SiDi, is there anything else we should work on albatross?
[01:22] <knome> or.. whatever
[01:22] <knome> :P
[01:22] <SiDi> on the dark theme
[01:23] <knome> wait a minute
[01:23] <SiDi> lets call them dark / light for now =D
[01:23] <knome> wasn't this the dark theme?
[01:23] <SiDi> it is
[01:23] <knome> so...
[01:23] <SiDi> Yeh, well
[01:23] <knome> is there something specific you want us to work on
[01:23] <SiDi> the menus
[01:23] <knome> what's with them?
[01:23] <SiDi> i dnt like alvaro's menu with just stock blue
[01:24] <SiDi> but dunno how it renders with dashua's
[01:24] <knome> blue?
[01:24] <knome> wait.. :D
[01:24] <knome> did you have a screenshot of that? :P
[01:24] <SiDi> no ? :P
[01:24] <SiDi> dashua: may you screeny your menus please ?
[01:24] <SiDi> knome: i also wanna make sure the panel buttons look fine
[01:24] <dashua> SiDi, menu-item issues?
[01:24] <knome> dashua, yup.
[01:25] <knome> dashua, have you seen the "famous" murrinexubuntu ?
[01:25] <SiDi> dashua: i dont like the slight gradient (or however it can be called) with the blue i use in my side, it looks too glossy
[01:25] <dashua> Hrm no I don't think.
[01:25] <knome> dashua, okay.
[01:25] <dashua> Ah yeah.  That is easy to fix.
[01:26] <knome> in MX, the selected menu is darker than the menubar usually is.
[01:26] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/24518/screenshot_5KW3Q4.png
[01:26] <dashua> That too glossy?
[01:27] <SiDi> yeh, it looks like the highlighted item is in 3D
[01:28] <SiDi> and i think we need more contrast between bg / text in the menus
[01:28] <SiDi> so we would either need quite a dark text  or a less dark menu bg (which wouldnt be as cool)
[01:29] <dashua> Ok.  I'll test some possibilities.
[01:29] <knome> dashua, wait a sec.
[01:30] <knome> dashua, see http://emonk.fi/open/xubuntu/9.10/shot_20090913-03:29:16-1.png
[01:30] <knome> dashua, i'd love that darker active menu
[01:30] <knome> and i think that's about the effect we want for the selected menu item
[01:31] <knome> just a carefully selected plain color or very near that
[01:31] <dashua> Ok.  I have transparency enabled too on my menus.  Let me disable that.
[01:32] <SiDi> knome: for the dark variant i definately want an unified dark xfwm :/
[01:32] <SiDi> if you have an inactive window having just the title bar black, in the middle, brings the eye's attention much
[01:32] <SiDi> and it lacks elegance
[01:33] <knome> i think we already agreed we want the default theme to have the default xfce xfwm and that the default theme would be the dark theme? :P
[01:35] <SiDi> knome: i cant allow that sorry :]
[01:35] <knome> SiDi, then i must pull your nose until "you" "allow" it ;)
[01:35] <SiDi> if the titlebar is dark then the window decoration must be too, for active/inactive windows
[01:35] <knome> SiDi, who's your marketing lead? ;]]
[01:35] <SiDi> knome: i will have to suicide if you release it as it is
[01:35] <knome> haha.
[01:36] <SiDi> for the sake of mental health ! :P
[01:36] <knome> we must look at that.
[01:36] <SiDi> imagine a very nice garden, with a cool set of bright flowers and plants, and, there, in the middle, a *****in telephone cabine
[01:36] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/24522/screenshot_1_1F7L2G.png
[01:36] <knome> SiDi, yummy!
[01:37] <SiDi> thats exactly the feeling i get with the dark titlebar + bright window border
[01:37] <knome> the titlebar is not exactly "bright" ...
[01:37] <dashua> Dark fg[PRELIGHT] looks better than white
[01:37] <SiDi> dashua: great
[01:38] <SiDi> Can you please try to put roundness 2 and remove the highlight shade completely ?
[01:38] <dashua> Yeah
[01:38] <knome> dashua, can the applications text be still white, even if it is selected?
[01:39] <dashua> Yeah, this is just for menu-items
[01:40] <knome> okay, so let it be white
[01:41] <SiDi_> the title bar ?
[01:41] <knome> let it be, let it be, oh let it be
[01:41] <knome> speaking words of wisdom, let it be
[01:41] <knome> SiDi_, the applications menu text when the menu is open
[01:41] <dashua> Ha
[01:43] <SiDi_> okies
[01:43] <SiDi_> knome: im not against default xfwm but then we need to set the inactive windows to use a dark color too
[01:44] <SiDi_> and i think it breaks one of this xfwm's features
[01:44] <knome> SiDi_, okay.
[01:44] <knome> hmm?
[01:44] <knome> which one then
[01:44] <SiDi_> because with bright title bars it looks great to have those active / inactive borders different
[01:44] <SiDi_> its just not as easy with dark themes :D
[01:44] <knome> seriously.
[01:45] <knome> i think what we have now has worked like a charm.
[01:45] <knome> can't the inactive menubar be a little lighter?
[01:45] <knome> rather than adjusting the titlebar
[01:46] <SiDi_> damn why do all these widgets have similar names ?
[01:46] <SiDi_> you cant control the gtk theme depending on whether windows are focused, knome
[01:46] <knome> >__<
[01:47] <SiDi_> and if we make it lighter then the theme really isnt dark anymore :P and the blackness of the window borders with this theme will then look weird :D
[01:47] <knome> if somebody writes a patch for gtk, can we do it?
[01:47] <knome> :P
[01:47] <SiDi_> no
[01:47] <SiDi_> :P
[01:47] <SiDi_> that kind of patch wouldnt be accepted imo
[01:47] <knome> we of course would upload our own version into xubuntu
[01:48] <SiDi_> i dont think metacity and xfwm both use the proper FD.o way for knowing whether apps are focused or not
[01:48] <knome> they should be patched then as well
[01:48] <SiDi_> your own version of gtk ? :D huh
[01:48] <SiDi_> if we ask for _that_, they'll kick our asses badly imo ^^
[01:48] <SiDi_> hi Cimi
[01:48] <Cimi> hi
[01:49] <knome> SiDi_, what if i like people kicking me arese?
[01:49] <knome> -e
[01:49] <SiDi_> knome: the problem of that patch is that it would probably require to design the correct way to do it, which would pull in all the current issues with gtk theming : completely incoherence of use of NORMAL / ACTIVE / SELECTED, etc, between widgets
[01:50] <SiDi_> they wont let us double the number of use cases just for that imo :P
[01:50] <SiDi_> knome: ask your wife, damn it
[01:50] <knome> no, really?
[01:50] <knome> she's sleeping :P
[01:50] <knome> what if i like... men kicking my arse?
[01:51] <SiDi_> Why is your xfwm theme blue btw ?
[01:51] <SiDi_> mine is black with default xfwm and albatross theme selected
[01:52] <knome> meh
[01:52] <SiDi_> hm sorry dashua knome but im leaving you guys here
[01:52] <knome> lol :D
[01:52] <SiDi_> im too tired, my eyes begin to hurt x_x
[01:52] <knome> let's continue tomorrow then.
[01:52] <knome> :)
[01:52] <SiDi_> dont forget to branch that stuff done so far :)
[01:52] <knome> dashua, ^
[01:53] <SiDi_> good night everyone
[01:53] <dashua> SiDi_, Np :)
[01:53] <knome> night SiDi :D
[01:56] <Cimi> jawn
[02:03] <dashua> SiDi_, knome: Test branch pushed :)
[02:04] <knome> great
[02:04] <knome> i will soon fade into bed :P
[02:09] <knome> good night!
[02:20] <dashua> Nite
[08:27] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[10:31] <mac_v> dashua: i dont see the music covers art too , this happens for some songs
[12:55] <ckontros> mac_v: Since you've been following this "Place an Ubuntu icon/emblem on the system partition" discussion, can you send an email to the list with the details for Breathe to follow the new developments?
[12:55] <ckontros>  ie: What are the new names for icons? I see "drive-harddisk-root" but from the chat there seems to be other icons that have been chatted about. Correct?
[12:56] <mac_v> ckontros: right now , no final decision seems to have been taken , its basically a name what we have proposed right now , will try to get Walton to ping in on this :)
[12:57] <ckontros> mac_v: Ok. With the current chat about a patch seemed like we were gonna maintain it 'till upstream took it.
[13:02] <mac_v> ckontros: nah ,its been pushed it since its in Papercuts , we have a lot of those just unfinished , so we are just trying to push things along ;)
[13:09] <SiDi_> dashua: heya
[13:09] <SiDi_> when you open alvaro's menu in twf, the scroll arrows on top and bottom are light grey when insensitive
[13:09] <SiDi_> bg[INSENSITIVE] = "#2A2925" in style menu can fix that
[13:09] <SiDi_> and with the same color for fg insensitive you dont see the arrow :D
[13:27] <dashua> SiDi_, Thx, try that last push.
[13:29] <SiDi_> i pushed it to the alvaro branch btw
[13:30] <dashua> Ok cool
[13:30] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/24552/screenshot_008_2uwB6w.png
[13:30] <dashua> Still looks good orange :)
[13:31] <dashua> You can pretty much change it to any color and it maintains versatility
[13:35] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/24555/screenshot_009_5yoiVH.png
[13:35] <dashua> We can bring Powder back =/
[13:43] <SiDi_> wow
[13:46] <dashua> SiDi_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/270270/
[13:46] <dashua> See if that is better.
[13:46] <dashua> Commit was lost =/
[13:48] <SiDi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/270271/
[13:48] <SiDi_> dashua: this is hwat i have now
[13:50] <dashua> Ok, delete the style "menu" you have in that paste and copy/paste the other
[13:50] <dashua> See if that is better for you.
[13:51] <SiDi_> damn
[13:51] <SiDi_> it works well
[13:52] <dashua> Ok good.
[13:53] <SiDi_> i'ld just add this      fg[INSENSITIVE] = "#302F2C"
[13:53] <SiDi_> so the scroll arrow doesnt appear if you're on top / bottom
[13:54] <dashua> Ok cool.  Looks good.
[13:55] <dashua> How do the changes look so far?
[13:58] <SiDi_> great
[13:58] <SiDi_> i think the gtk theme's ready
[13:58] <SiDi_> now gotta work on the icons :x
[13:58] <dashua> What are you going to use?
[13:59] <SiDi_> i dont know
[13:59] <SiDi_> probably something elementary based
[13:59] <dashua> I thought that looked nice.
[13:59]  * SiDi_ is now watching a movie, see you later
[13:59] <SiDi_> me too
[13:59] <dashua> Pz
[13:59] <SiDi_> but some icons need to be refreshed
[15:34] <SiDi> dashua: ping
[15:35] <SiDi> knome: ping²
[15:35] <SiDi> ˇ~ˇ
[16:07] <knome> möh
[16:07] <knome> ;)
[21:39] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/